Dari Meade wrote:
>
> Irshad Manji an extremely well known womanist author and broadcaster often
> featured on TV Ontario, and a well know minority rights activist is
> presently working on a book on the language used in politics.
> It will reveal the coded language used by the political right and how
> Mike Harris did promote racism in his last election campaign using
carefully
> coded language. It may have actually been this coded language that helped
> him win the Ontario election last year.
That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Coded
language?! Don’t tell me you actually believe that rubbish.
> She has also uncovered how the welfare cuts, daycare cuts, civil servant
> cuts, and other cuts, affect women and especially people-of-color way more
> than anybody else and how the Conservatives have specifically targetted
> these groups to bear the brunt of his budget cuts while the tax cuts are
> being specifically designed to assist the wealthy in particular wealthy
> white males. I hear this book will be specifically geared to Canadian
> politics.
Yeah right, and the Martians are in the process of secretly infiltrating some
of the highest posts at Dr. Ballards. Tell me, do you watch the X-Files a
lot? You really seem to have a precarious grasp of reality. From the sound
of all this, the only rascist around here is Irshad Manji. Talk about
promoting hatred. Don’t you see how ridiculous statements like this coded
language garbage only serve to deepen the divisions in our society. Wake up!
These claims will only serve to anger the masses. I am part of a minority
group as well, and I don’t particularly appreciate this “white male” label.
I don’t consider myself white, although that’s all a rascist like Irshad
Manji would see, and I definitely don’t have any kind of advantage in this
country. In fact I lose twice, because not only do I have to deal with
ocasional rascism on the basis of my ethnicity, but I also have to deal with
morons like Manji, and their persecution of all white males. If you ask me,
Manji, and anyone else who happens to believe this crap, is a walking hate
crime, and should be prosecuted for promoting promoting rascism.
GK.
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[ Posted on 19 Feb 1996 10:39:33 GMT ]
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[ Author was George Kokolakis ]
[ Posted on 19 Feb 1996 10:39:33 GMT ]
Dari Meade wrote:
>
> Irshad Manji an extremely well known womanist author and broadcaster often
> featured on TV Ontario, and a well know minority rights activist is
> presently working on a book on the language used in politics.
> It will reveal the coded language used by the political right and how
> Mike Harris did promote racism in his last election campaign using
carefully
> coded language. It may have actually been this coded language that helped
> him win the Ontario election last year.
That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Coded
language?! Don’t tell me you actually believe that rubbish.
> She has also uncovered how the welfare cuts, daycare cuts, civil servant
> cuts, and other cuts, affect women and especially people-of-color way more
> than anybody else and how the Conservatives have specifically targetted
> these groups to bear the brunt of his budget cuts while the tax cuts are
> being specifically designed to assist the wealthy in particular wealthy
> white males. I hear this book will be specifically geared to Canadian
> politics.
Yeah right, and the Martians are in the process of secretly infiltrating some
of the highest posts at Dr. Ballards. Tell me, do you watch the X-Files a
lot? You really seem to have a precarious grasp of reality. From the sound
of all this, the only rascist around here is Irshad Manji. Talk about
promoting hatred. Don’t you see how ridiculous statements like this coded
language garbage only serve to deepen the divisions in our society. Wake up!
These claims will only serve to anger the masses. I am part of a minority
group as well, and I don’t particularly appreciate this “white male” label.
I don’t consider myself white, although that’s all a rascist like Irshad
Manji would see, and I definitely don’t have any kind of advantage in this
country. In fact I lose twice, because not only do I have to deal with
ocasional rascism on the basis of my ethnicity, but I also have to deal with
morons like Manji, and their persecution of all white males. If you ask me,
Manji, and anyone else who happens to believe this crap, is a walking hate
crime, and should be prosecuted for promoting promoting rascism.
GK.
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CampusLife – University of Toronto
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From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 13:18:01 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC….
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[ Author was [email protected] ]
[ Posted on Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:54:17 GMT ]
In article <4grb[email protected]>, [email protected] (Jerome Yau) writes:
>[email protected] (cook) wrote:
>
>>You forgot to add that the colonies we created are worth living in. You
>>sure as hell can’t say that about anything created by the asian cultures
>>in the last 10,000 years.
>
>This is offensive and ridiculous. You are contempting Asians and Asian
>cultures.
>May I suggest you to show some respect to other people, especially
>Asians.
>
>Also I will protest to your system administrator about your remarks
>about Asians/Asian culture.
>
Jerome,
may I suggest that you ignore the poster above….his commentary isn’t
worth your time. He still appears to be the type of individual that would
support a system of apartheid here in Canada…and his comments bear little
importance to anyone but himself. As you can no doubt tell from his collossal
ignorance with regards to cultures outside of the materialistic Euro-North
American society, he is not representative of anyone else in this country but
himself.
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 13:18:02 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC….
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[ Author was K Than Trong ]
[ Posted on 2 Mar 1996 04:05:58 GMT ]
Karen Gordon ([email protected]) wrote:
: A long-term resident, a caucasian, has written to the press that her daughter
: faces fewer and fewer employment opportunities in their own city, due to
: fact that Chinese employers will hire only Mandarin or Cantonese speaking
: employees.
What does it matter that she is caucasion?
Face it, it’s becoming a harder world, jobs are less scarce for
everybody, competition is more important than ever, and the more
marketable skills one has…well, regardless of race or ethnicity.
: Now let’s look at this….
: Canadians must learn to speak the language of immigrants to her country
: in order to find employment in her own land.
Just who the hell are your ‘Canadians’? Just caucasion Canadians?
: Since Canadians have been ‘compassionate, humanitarian, tolerant and
: welcoming’ of non-English-speaking immigrants, bringing them in by the
: hundreds of thousands, providing for their ‘assimilation’ by tax funding
: multi-cultural programs, English-language training, and even ensuring
: their employment through ’employment equity’ laws, I think it would be
: fair to ask…..
Aaah, the more subtle, underlining racism of bigoted Canadians, who
sees that this ‘compassion’ and ‘tolerance’ is only restricted to pity
for those ‘pitiful, less-educated and dumb’ immigrants.
Market forces, which I don’t pretend to understand, happen to make the
Chinese community a major presence in Canada. While I will give that
those employers insisting on Chinese-only hiring are also discriminatory,
do I sense you and your kind’s indigation and being to required to learn
another language? Is this not not a *good* experience? Would you rail
against all those computer-literate who refuse to hire Luddites?
Training programs, incentives could be implemented for those willing to
learn Chinese or other languages, to fully appreciate the multi-cultural
aspect of Canada. The policy of hiring *only* Chinese people could also
simply be that these new businesses simply feel more comfortable with
‘their own kind’. It’s a face that managers hire people that are are
like themselves, it’s evident in the business world. YES, even among
‘white’ employers. Well, if you and your type of Canadians are really
‘tolerant’, going out of one’s way to learn another language not only
eliminates small-mindedness, but goes a long way to improving relations.
Besides, those who hire Chinese-only are making bad business decisions in
the long run. While they’ll appeal to the Chinese customers, a large part
of their potentional market is ignored. And, WAKE UP! The new immigrants
are leaving behind their WHOLE DAMN LIFE to get a chance in Canada,
they’re not exploiting you bastards, they’re joining in the Canadian
mosaic, they’re sending their children to learn English, and they’re
struggling with the language themselves. When have I seen the bigoted
‘Canadian’ make that effort?
Well, face it. As part of a new global community, the Pacific century has
arrived.
: That Asian employers of the ever-growing Asian malls (Aberdeen Centre,
: Fairchild Square, Parker Place, President Plaza and Yaohan Centre) be
: required BY LAW to hire English-only-speaking employees; to provide
: language training at the EXPENSE OF ASIAN EMPLOYERS, and to make sure
: that these numbers are representative of the population of the province.
By law?! If you don’t cut it to your employer, you simply will not be
hired! And if you think it is because of some sort of discrimation, you
will take it upon yourself to file a complaint with the Human Rights
Commission or whatever it’s called.
: Can one think of anything more ‘humanitarian, tolerant,’ and non-racist?
: ….. and a clearer call to reality ?
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Immigrants – ticking TB time bomb….(2)
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[ Author was Karen Gordon ]
[ Posted on Sun, 3 Mar 1996 03:19:51 GMT ]
Philip Rajwani (a Chinese Asian using an East Indian alias) writes:
>>> Is hate-mongering one of your disease? You have been trying to do this
>>> for some time. Remember you racial garbage. Remember the lies that
>>> you have told. People have probably already notfied your system
>>> administrator. The plug may be pulled on you soon. Don’t be surprised
>>> if someone sue you for defamation.
Ilias Kotsovolos:
>>What an intelligent response! Censor everyone who dissagrees with your
>>views and you will eliminate racism. If you can’t handle debate Philip,
>>don’t resort to Big Brother threats.
>>Ilias K.
Philip (the fake):
> Shut up you bonehead. Karen Gordon has been reprimanded by his/her
> sysop a couple of times already.
> You have not contributed a thing on this thread, so please cut your
> crap.
(Karen): ‘The Year of the Rat’ – an appropriate year for you, ‘Philip
Rajwani’…..(Were you one of the Chinese illegal immigrants who hid behind
Japanese passports when trying to enter Canada via the north pole route?)
I’ve been on the ‘net’ almost 4 years now, and I have never received a note
>from a ‘sysop’ or administrator regarding ANY of my posts. I stick to the
facts – and back them with verifiable references – much to the chagrin of
idiots like yourself. Hard to fight the issues when they are well-referenced,
aren’t they?
On the other hand…. others have shared THEIR replies from various system
administrators of carriers to people like yourself – who tried to shut them
down with accusations of ‘racism!’.
They told you that they didn’t approve of your tactics whenever someone
posted views that did not agree with yours. They told you to ‘grow up’,
didn’t they?
You see, In Canada we still have free speech. It may not sit well with
immigrants like yourself that are used to intimidation and censorship by your
big brother governemtns, but it sets just fine with us as Canadians.
If you prefer your ‘old country’ ways, go home. But while you are in Canada,
you’d better be prepared to having other speak out against bad immigration
policies and immigrants’ abuses of our systems, and having us NOT be censured.
This is Canada. Your intimidations don’t work here.
(And you may consider tempering your own postings – there ARE rules against
bad language and name-calling. It’s called manners.)
—
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From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 16:12:35 PST 1996
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Subject: Immigrants – ticking TB time bomb….(2)
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[ Author was cook ]
[ Posted on Sat, 02 Mar 1996 22:57:19 -0800 ]
In article <4ha[email protected]>, [email protected] (Jerome Yau) wrote:
> [email protected] (Karen Gordon) wrote:
>
> […]
> >
> >(K): And now WE have this ‘so much human traffic’ from Hong Kong AND China.
> >Does anyone dare to say that it is not coming into Canada?
> >Why not? Did the flight from Hong Kong somehow cure all these carriers of
> >dormant TB?
> >Canada imports still more problems……
>
> I am totally appalled at your ridiculous argument.
>
> Do you have any evidence to back up your claim? Do you know that Hong
> Kong’s medical standard is as high as Western nations?
>
> According to your argument, isn’t it that we have to build walls
> around our border and set up check points at every port of entry to
> protect potential diseases and virus from the rest of the world?
A letter to Families with Children from China from Jerri Ann
Jenista, MD
http://www.catalog.com/fwcfc/healthconcerns.html
Hepatitis B: There are rumours that Chinese authorities avoid designating
known infected children as available for
adoption. Thus, the rate of hepatitis B may be lower than in the native
Chinese population. Regardless, hepatitis B is a
widespread population problem in China and does occur in adoptees. In the
past week, I have consulted on two such
children, now aged 20 and 36 months.
Because the incubation period for hepatitis is up to 6 months, a child’s
hepatitis status is usually not clear until he has
had two screening tests 6 months apart, or at least one test 6 months
after leaving China. Apparent health is the normal
condition of hepatitis B chronically infected children. Thus, every child
must be fully evaluated.
Tuberculosis is an uncommon problem in international adoptees, at least as
compared to refugee children. However,
until the AIDS epidemic, almost all tuberculosis in the US was in
immigrant children, especially from Asia. Although
BCG does partially protect against tuberclosis, it is not 100%. The “old”
teaching is that TB skin tests should not be
done in the face of BCG vaccine. Longer experience has shown us that the
concept is not valid. The centers for Disease
Control and Prevention now recommend that all children coming from a high
risk environment (such as an orphanage or
hospital or China) should be screened for tuberculosis using the PPD
(blister under the skin) tuberculosis test.
Interpretation of the result is exactly the same as if one had never
received BCG. Thus, even your office pediatrician can
perform and interpret the test.
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On 13 Feb 1996 StevenChao wrote:
: I am late to this, can someone here send me what was the law that they
: are passing or passed to impose unequal employment??
:
: “The turd that doesn’t flush,”
: Peace,
: StevenChao
The federal Canadian law which was passed in late 1995 is Bill c-64 and
is called the Employment Equity Act.
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[ Author was Karen Gordon ]
[ Posted on Sun, 3 Mar 1996 03:19:51 GMT ]
Philip Rajwani (a Chinese Asian using an East Indian alias) writes:
>>> Is hate-mongering one of your disease? You have been trying to do this
>>> for some time. Remember you racial garbage. Remember the lies that
>>> you have told. People have probably already notfied your system
>>> administrator. The plug may be pulled on you soon. Don’t be surprised
>>> if someone sue you for defamation.
Ilias Kotsovolos:
>>What an intelligent response! Censor everyone who dissagrees with your
>>views and you will eliminate racism. If you can’t handle debate Philip,
>>don’t resort to Big Brother threats.
>>Ilias K.
Philip (the fake):
> Shut up you bonehead. Karen Gordon has been reprimanded by his/her
> sysop a couple of times already.
> You have not contributed a thing on this thread, so please cut your
> crap.
(Karen): ‘The Year of the Rat’ – an appropriate year for you, ‘Philip
Rajwani’…..(Were you one of the Chinese illegal immigrants who hid behind
Japanese passports when trying to enter Canada via the north pole route?)
I’ve been on the ‘net’ almost 4 years now, and I have never received a note
>from a ‘sysop’ or administrator regarding ANY of my posts. I stick to the
facts – and back them with verifiable references – much to the chagrin of
idiots like yourself. Hard to fight the issues when they are well-referenced,
aren’t they?
On the other hand…. others have shared THEIR replies from various system
administrators of carriers to people like yourself – who tried to shut them
down with accusations of ‘racism!’.
They told you that they didn’t approve of your tactics whenever someone
posted views that did not agree with yours. They told you to ‘grow up’,
didn’t they?
You see, In Canada we still have free speech. It may not sit well with
immigrants like yourself that are used to intimidation and censorship by your
big brother governemtns, but it sets just fine with us as Canadians.
If you prefer your ‘old country’ ways, go home. But while you are in Canada,
you’d better be prepared to having other speak out against bad immigration
policies and immigrants’ abuses of our systems, and having us NOT be censured.
This is Canada. Your intimidations don’t work here.
(And you may consider tempering your own postings – there ARE rules against
bad language and name-calling. It’s called manners.)
—
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[ Author was cook ]
[ Posted on Sat, 02 Mar 1996 22:57:19 -0800 ]
In article <4ha[email protected]>, [email protected] (Jerome Yau) wrote:
> [email protected] (Karen Gordon) wrote:
>
> […]
> >
> >(K): And now WE have this ‘so much human traffic’ from Hong Kong AND China.
> >Does anyone dare to say that it is not coming into Canada?
> >Why not? Did the flight from Hong Kong somehow cure all these carriers of
> >dormant TB?
> >Canada imports still more problems……
>
> I am totally appalled at your ridiculous argument.
>
> Do you have any evidence to back up your claim? Do you know that Hong
> Kong’s medical standard is as high as Western nations?
>
> According to your argument, isn’t it that we have to build walls
> around our border and set up check points at every port of entry to
> protect potential diseases and virus from the rest of the world?
A letter to Families with Children from China from Jerri Ann
Jenista, MD
http://www.catalog.com/fwcfc/healthconcerns.html
Hepatitis B: There are rumours that Chinese authorities avoid designating
known infected children as available for
adoption. Thus, the rate of hepatitis B may be lower than in the native
Chinese population. Regardless, hepatitis B is a
widespread population problem in China and does occur in adoptees. In the
past week, I have consulted on two such
children, now aged 20 and 36 months.
Because the incubation period for hepatitis is up to 6 months, a child’s
hepatitis status is usually not clear until he has
had two screening tests 6 months apart, or at least one test 6 months
after leaving China. Apparent health is the normal
condition of hepatitis B chronically infected children. Thus, every child
must be fully evaluated.
Tuberculosis is an uncommon problem in international adoptees, at least as
compared to refugee children. However,
until the AIDS epidemic, almost all tuberculosis in the US was in
immigrant children, especially from Asia. Although
BCG does partially protect against tuberclosis, it is not 100%. The “old”
teaching is that TB skin tests should not be
done in the face of BCG vaccine. Longer experience has shown us that the
concept is not valid. The centers for Disease
Control and Prevention now recommend that all children coming from a high
risk environment (such as an orphanage or
hospital or China) should be screened for tuberculosis using the PPD
(blister under the skin) tuberculosis test.
Interpretation of the result is exactly the same as if one had never
received BCG. Thus, even your office pediatrician can
perform and interpret the test.
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC….
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On 13 Feb 1996 StevenChao wrote:
: I am late to this, can someone here send me what was the law that they
: are passing or passed to impose unequal employment??
:
: “The turd that doesn’t flush,”
: Peace,
: StevenChao
The federal Canadian law which was passed in late 1995 is Bill c-64 and
is called the Employment Equity Act.
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 16:35:21 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Canadian Hepatitis B Upsurge due to Immigration
Date: 3 Mar 1996 01:00:33 GMT
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[ Author was Jerome Yau ]
[ Posted on Sat, 02 Mar 1996 20:27:58 GMT ]
Joe Lockhart wrote:
>You must ask yourself this basic question: Who has more rights
>the majority or the minority? Canada is a so-called democracy right?
>if this is so, why is it the minorities have all the rights?
Democracy means that all citizens regardless of their sex, race,
ethnic origin, class are treated equal. While democracy asserts
majority rule, it is accompanied by respect of the rights of
minorities
>What Mr.Chong is admitting to is if we had mandatory screening,
>you would find an overwhelming amount of minorities with Hepatitis,
>AIDS and one he never mentioned Tuberculous. So, what should
>we do? Stick our head in the sand and hope it will go away?
>Or do we pass laws to protect people with contagious disseise?
[example snipped]
I think we should all realize that there are medical screenings for
prospective immigrants. As far as I know, the screening does include a
chest x-ray. The reason is so simple: to check whether those people
have any lung problems. With respect to Hepatitis B, it is not a
contagious disease.
Another aspect that we have to consider is whether those Hepatitis B
cases are originated inside or outside Canada. If it is outside, that
means we need to review the process of medical examination and make
any necessary adjustments. If it is originated inside, then the story
is different.
I think it is fair to say that a stricter medical examination might be
required to protect the interests of Canadians. However, I don’t see
there is any rationale to single out a particular group of people and
indiscriminately correlates the issue with immigration.
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 16:35:22 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Ethnic diversity in Canada: A Myth?
Date: 3 Mar 1996 00:58:53 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.quebec,misc.immigration.canada ]
[ Author was Asser Hassanain ]
[ Posted on Sat, 02 Mar 1996 01:33:48 GMT ]
[email protected] (ken n) wrote:
>[cut] New immigrants tends to feel
>alienated in a new country. They tend to suffer depression, loneliness and
>anxiety as well as other psychological and physical hardship.
Heh heh heh! Will you please try going to another country, live there
all your life, assimilate to their culture, forget English or French
or whatever and speak their language, and dress like them, and then
throw your Canadian citizenship status, THEN COME TO CANADA AS AN
IMMIGRANT, and see if they still treat you as an equal??!!!!!!
>Immigrants contribute tremendously to the Canadian economy. I think that the
>government is recognising their contribution and is trying to make them feel
>at home(ease).
Like Preston Manning’s policies towards immigration? Interesting, and
visit me in my grave if Jean isn’t thinking the same way!
Asser Hassanain
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 23:20:16 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Canadian Hepatitis B Upsurge due to Immigration
Date: 4 Mar 1996 02:12:19 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.canada,can.politics,can.general,bc.general,ont.general,qc.general,alt.politics.immigration,can.gov.general ]
[ Author was F.G. Silva, III ]
[ Posted on Sun, 03 Mar 1996 20:11:38 GMT ]
On 3 Mar 1996 19:00:23 GMT, Dan Browne wrote:
: [email protected] wrote:
: this statement is a crock of horseshit (in my opinion).
: I’m an immigrant to canada from the u.k. and I had to take all sorts
: of (painful) medical tests to make sure I wasn’t carrying any bullshit
: diseases which I could transmit to the canadian populace. How did I
: feel about this? Quite right. I think everyone should have to take
: *more* and varied tests to make sure transmissible diseases don’t get
: into the general population and increase the overall burden to the
: taxpayer (of which I currently pay plenty..but I asked for it by
: moving here…)
:
: And as for it being racist to test for certain diseases such as AIDS
: which happens to be more widespread in tropical countries… well, can
: you explain to me exactly how it is racist to say that residents of
: that country are more likely to have the disease? It’s not at all like
: saying residents of that country have a lower IQ or are all thiefs etc
: etc Statistics are statistics and just because they don’t reflect a
: let’s-all-live-happily-together view of the world doesn’t mean that
: anyone who points them out is a racist.
[sarcasm on]
Dan, as far as I’m concerned, they should give you every shot
available and then some to ensure that you will not contaminate the
populace as did your immigrant forefather hundreds of years ago.
You are oblivious to the fact that not only was polio, scarlet
fever, bubonic plague, venereal disease, and a host of other
communicable diseases, IMPORTED into the Americas by your european
immigrant ancestors.
This had a devastating effect on the native american populace at
the time and damned nearly wiped them all out. Racism, is also
another european import brought to the Americas by your immigrant
ancestors.
Too bad they haven’t found a cure for racism, because like a
disease, it also has a propensity to devastate an entire society.
[sarcasm off]
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 23:20:17 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Immigrants – ticking TB time bomb….(2)
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[ Article crossposted from can.general,can.community.asian.bc.general,alt.politics.immigration,ont.general,soc.culture.canada ]
[ Author was Dan Browne ]
[ Posted on 3 Mar 1996 19:17:16 GMT ]
[email protected] (Alan Brooks) wrote:
>Immigration is alright in small amount over periods of time but large
>uncontrolled imigration, as is going on in the USA, can only lead to
>the distruction of the resident society.
The problem I can see with a lot of the anti-immigration sentiment is
that you fail to differentiate between the types…like between good
cholesterol and bad.
I’m an immigrant myself (from the uk) and very easily integrated into
north american society (with the possible exception of the strong
accent..) and I pay shitloads of taxes which support all the other
canadians who use the government services.
You need to ask which (if any) kinds of immigrants are good for society.
Unquestionably people who add to the culture and economy of a country
without disrupting its social fabric are good.
Those who are unable to add to society’s net worth aren’t so good.
These, however, can *still contribute* something although not so much.
This raises an interesting question, though.
*Who* is it that decides what is adding to society’s net worth?
>From a purely economic standpoint allowing in a large number of
immigrants who are unable to speak the language of the host country will
cause significant problems when they find they are unable to get a job to
make use of their skills (if they even have any). Another problem is
raised if the immigrants don’t have any skills.
The humanitarian answer is that it is our moral obligation to help these
people out who are worse off than ourselves. That’s true from a
judeo-christian ethical standpoint. Ask the japanese or koreans what
their policy is on allowing in refugees and you may get a significantly
different answer.
Another interesting point is this: Given the rate of high unemployment in
canada, should we be allowing in lots of people to compete for the
(relatively few) unskilled jobs, thus driving the pay at the lower end
even more?
Personally I think we should be training the other canadians first and
helping the rest out second but would training actually work?
Who knows…
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 23:20:18 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Canadian Hepatitis B Upsurge due to Immigration
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If you would read section 15(2) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and
Freedoms, minorites have MORE rights than those who belong to the majority.
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 23:25:47 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Canadian Hepatitis B Upsurge due to Immigration
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[ Author was F.G. Silva, III ]
[ Posted on Sun, 03 Mar 1996 20:11:38 GMT ]
On 3 Mar 1996 19:00:23 GMT, Dan Browne wrote:
: [email protected] wrote:
: this statement is a crock of horseshit (in my opinion).
: I’m an immigrant to canada from the u.k. and I had to take all sorts
: of (painful) medical tests to make sure I wasn’t carrying any bullshit
: diseases which I could transmit to the canadian populace. How did I
: feel about this? Quite right. I think everyone should have to take
: *more* and varied tests to make sure transmissible diseases don’t get
: into the general population and increase the overall burden to the
: taxpayer (of which I currently pay plenty..but I asked for it by
: moving here…)
:
: And as for it being racist to test for certain diseases such as AIDS
: which happens to be more widespread in tropical countries… well, can
: you explain to me exactly how it is racist to say that residents of
: that country are more likely to have the disease? It’s not at all like
: saying residents of that country have a lower IQ or are all thiefs etc
: etc Statistics are statistics and just because they don’t reflect a
: let’s-all-live-happily-together view of the world doesn’t mean that
: anyone who points them out is a racist.
[sarcasm on]
Dan, as far as I’m concerned, they should give you every shot
available and then some to ensure that you will not contaminate the
populace as did your immigrant forefather hundreds of years ago.
You are oblivious to the fact that not only was polio, scarlet
fever, bubonic plague, venereal disease, and a host of other
communicable diseases, IMPORTED into the Americas by your european
immigrant ancestors.
This had a devastating effect on the native american populace at
the time and damned nearly wiped them all out. Racism, is also
another european import brought to the Americas by your immigrant
ancestors.
Too bad they haven’t found a cure for racism, because like a
disease, it also has a propensity to devastate an entire society.
[sarcasm off]
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 23:25:47 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Immigrants – ticking TB time bomb….(2)
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[ Author was Dan Browne ]
[ Posted on 3 Mar 1996 19:17:16 GMT ]
[email protected] (Alan Brooks) wrote:
>Immigration is alright in small amount over periods of time but large
>uncontrolled imigration, as is going on in the USA, can only lead to
>the distruction of the resident society.
The problem I can see with a lot of the anti-immigration sentiment is
that you fail to differentiate between the types…like between good
cholesterol and bad.
I’m an immigrant myself (from the uk) and very easily integrated into
north american society (with the possible exception of the strong
accent..) and I pay shitloads of taxes which support all the other
canadians who use the government services.
You need to ask which (if any) kinds of immigrants are good for society.
Unquestionably people who add to the culture and economy of a country
without disrupting its social fabric are good.
Those who are unable to add to society’s net worth aren’t so good.
These, however, can *still contribute* something although not so much.
This raises an interesting question, though.
*Who* is it that decides what is adding to society’s net worth?
>From a purely economic standpoint allowing in a large number of
immigrants who are unable to speak the language of the host country will
cause significant problems when they find they are unable to get a job to
make use of their skills (if they even have any). Another problem is
raised if the immigrants don’t have any skills.
The humanitarian answer is that it is our moral obligation to help these
people out who are worse off than ourselves. That’s true from a
judeo-christian ethical standpoint. Ask the japanese or koreans what
their policy is on allowing in refugees and you may get a significantly
different answer.
Another interesting point is this: Given the rate of high unemployment in
canada, should we be allowing in lots of people to compete for the
(relatively few) unskilled jobs, thus driving the pay at the lower end
even more?
Personally I think we should be training the other canadians first and
helping the rest out second but would training actually work?
Who knows…
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Canadian Hepatitis B Upsurge due to Immigration
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If you would read section 15(2) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and
Freedoms, minorites have MORE rights than those who belong to the majority.
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From: [email protected] (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: HORRIFIC ARMOURED-CAR ROBBERY IN TORONTO
Date: 3 Mar 1996 00:52:36 GMT
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[ Author was GREGS ]
[ Posted on 2 Mar 1996 23:29:23 GMT ]
The information below is cross-posted to numerous canadian newsgroups in
the hope that it will enlighten CANADIANS as to the amount of horrible
violent crime that is occurring in our society DAILY and contrary to the
LIES of our government, is actually on the increase.
In the past crimes like those below would be reported NATIONWIDE for days
but has become routine page five blurbs because it happens every day!
BEGIN
The last of four thugs involved in an incredibly violent armoured car
robbery was captured yesterday after a 2 1/2 month long multiforce police
investigation.
On Dec 10,1995 FOUR THUGS armed with automatic pistols and sawed-off
shotguns attempted to hold up a LOOMIS armoured car in the west end of
Toronto in broad daylight.
The robbery occurred at a large mall packed with shoppers.
The armed guards were making a delivery when the accused scumbags,WITHOUT
PROVOCATION and WITHOUT WARNING started shooting.
The ambushed guards managed to return fire and during the ensuing RAGING
GUNBATTLE where dozens of shots were fired in front of horrified onlookers
the guards managed to hit one of the robbers.
One guard was also hit and suffered a serious leg wound.
The assailants managed to escape and three were later captured by police
with the fourth wanted man arrested at gunpoint yesterday in Toronto
ALL FOUR SCUMBAGS (MISGUIDED YOUTHS if you are a bleeding heart liberal)
ARE IMMIGRANTS TO CANADA AND THEY ARE IDENTIFIED BELOW AS
R.BARANOWSKI
ADAMO WSZOLEK
CARLOS ALBERTO SOARES
ROBERTO PACHECO
EACH OF THESE FINE UPSTANDING CONTRIBUTORS TO CANADIAN SOCIETY HAVE
LENGTHY CRIMINAL RECORDS DATING BACK VIRTUALLY TO THE DATE AT WHICH THEIR
FEET HIT THE GROUND IN OUR COUNTRY.
Now,here are the COSTS to CANADA for not deporting these pieces of garbage
say, after their FIFTH CRIMINAL CONVICTION!
VICTIM,HOSPITAL,MEDICAL,EMERGENCY SERVICE,POLICE,INSURANCE,PHYSICAL+MENTAL
TRAMA,PSYCHIATRIC,INVESTIGATION,COURTS,LAWYERS,APPEALS,INCARCERATION,INTEREST
COSTS ADDED TOGETHER GIVES A GRAND TOTAL OF OVER
$ 5 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS COST TO CANADA
$ 5 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS OR the FREE ENTIRE 4 year tuition cost for
EVERY UNIVERSITY OF TORONTO MECHANICAL ENGINEERING STUDENT CLASS OF 1999!
That is the cost to CANADA for not throwing out the GARBAGE!
275 ENGINEERS
WAKE UP CANADA!
There is no reason on earth that this country should not allow
LIMITED,CONTROLLED,SELECTIVE IMMIGRATION but GODDAMNIT we don’t have to
tolerate even for one MINUTE the world’s VIOLENT CRIMINAL SCUM washing up
on our shores to wreak havoc,murder,and mayhem on the
innocent,peace-loving CANADIAN people.
NOT FOR ONE FUCKING MINUTE!
—
gregs
SEMPER FIDELIS
The Canadian Constitution
“Void Where Prohibited By Law”
