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Subject: Re: 2 more Aussie Drug Traffickers to be Hanged – GOOD! Repost
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In Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia, all the garbage drug people get the same
treatment, no matter their colour.

All get the “long drop”, which means they will no longer be a burden on
society.

They publicly advertise : DADAH MEANS DEATH at all points of entry, so that
the druggies know the penalty before entering the countries.

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:33:33 +0800, “Agong Mat” wrote:

>If these two unfortunate smuglers were white, it will be a different
>scaenario. The Oz PM, the GZ Governor and the Queen will all fight to save
>the white trash. So, you see, it alls boils down to racism! I just hope
>spmeday, some whute trash are caught in Malaysia and Singapore.

>”MattKern” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people,
>> such as drug dealers.
>>
>> They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
>> criminal will never re-offend!!
>>
>> Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the
>upkeep
>> in some pampering prison system!!
>>
>> If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow
>suit!!!
>> Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just
>arrested!!
>>
>>
>> On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, “LifeManTalking”
>wrote:
>>
>> >AUSTRALIA – Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>> >Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>> >this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>> >the streets of Sydney.
>>
>> >The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>> >drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>> >radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>> >doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.
>>
>> >But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>> >tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>> >raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>> >a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>> >opposes the death penalty worldwide.
>>
>> >Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>> >Tuesday’s sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>> >to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>> >traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>> >executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.
>>
>> >It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>> >Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>> >December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>> >appeals for clemency.
>>
>> >It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>> >despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>> >there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>> >bodies or conceal it in their luggage.
>>
>> >Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>> >Australia’s heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>> >and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>> >lethally injects traffickers.
>>
>> >Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>> >Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>> >information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>> >of couriers the trade calls “mules”.
>>
>> >”It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>> >drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,”
>> >he told ABC’s Australian Story. “Many young lives get thrown away for
>> >the law of quick dollars.”
>>
>> >The AFP’s role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>> >sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>> >already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>> >his own party room.
>>
>> >The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>> >February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>> >uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.
>>
>> >Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>> >remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>> >previous successful run and another aborted attempt.
>>
>> >This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>> >determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>> >and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>> >treaties.
>>
>> >”We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>> >engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>> >them) from reaching Australian shores,” Phelan said. “That’s a practice
>> >we will continue to operate within.”
>>
>> >What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>> >over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>> >execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.
>>
>> >The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>> >was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>> >the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.
>>
>> >”No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>> >citizen to the death penalty,” Myers told Australian Story.
>>
>> >Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>> >Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>> >illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.
>>
>> >While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>> >action.
>>
>> >The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>> >the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>> >Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>> >charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>> >do as it thought best until charges were laid.
>>
>> >By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>> >evidence had been gathered.
>>
>> >Phelan is unrepentant: “Basically all transit countries through which
>> >drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>> >choose who it chooses to cooperate with.”
>>
>> >International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>> >the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>> >Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>> >a decade.
>>
>> >Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>> >threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.
>>
>> >Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>> >penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>> >support of up to 80 per cent.
>>
>> >In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>> >that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>> >for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>> >die.
>>
>> >Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.
>>
>> >In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>> >Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>> >acts of terrorism.
>>
>> >Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>> >Canberra’s approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>> >said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>> >pursue Australia’s long-standing opposition to the death penalty.
>>
>> >How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.
>>
>> >Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>> >out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>> >Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.
>>
>> >Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia’s
>> >inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>> >times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>> >shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.
>>
>> >It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>> >High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>> >Jakarta.
>>
>> >And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>> >grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>> >his mind.
>>
>> >Death penalty Australia’s double dilemma
>> >
>> >18.02.06
>> >By Greg Ansley
>>
>

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At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved with
drugs!

Malaysia,Singapore, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed criminal
will never re-offend.

Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!

On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ wrote:

>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia

>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml&section=middleeast&
>col=

>RIYADH – A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of
>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior
>ministry said.

>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin
>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a
>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.

>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.

>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for
>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.

>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle
>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom,
>the ministry said.

>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the
>Saudi authorities this year.

>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in
>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official
>statements.

>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which
>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy,
>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.

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Subject: Re: GEKO-Wer Hat $32 MILLIONEN fuer Plant in Edmonton Kanada,nach 3 Jahre? Geld Verschwunden?
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On TV, reporters are complaining about the fact that GEKO never did build the
facility in Edmonton, Canada, which was supposed to cost C$32 Million!!

Man muss wundern, wer hat $32 Millionen Geld, wenn es kein Plant gibt?
Ist $32 MILLIONEN verschwunden?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:23:37 -0700, Ariadne wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!

>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.

>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.

>From: Ken Levi
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700

>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??

>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?

>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, [email protected]
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt – Did GEKO pay the taxes
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year’s Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times – 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign…
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Subject: Re: Christian Girls Sold to ZYD Sex Slavery!! Repost
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don’t give a damn about girls of other
>confessions.
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>> wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest…….

>> >>From: Rameses
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700

>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>”Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel’s
>> >>thriving sex industry.

>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery”.

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don’t
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.

>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant

>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with

>> Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: “George”

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>On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos” wrote:

>>The Accusations

>> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
>> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>> deeds of the war.

>> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
>> on my arm

>> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
>> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
>> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
>> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
>> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
>> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>> camps, the price…was not too high for me.

>> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
>> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

>> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
>> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>> blood to achieve his political goal…
>> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
>> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
>> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
>> money and military equipment.”

>> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
>> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>> -88-

>KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

>Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
>and RUMKOWSKI!!
>The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
>GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

>On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer wrote:

>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest…….

>>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>>Date: 1997/07/12

>>The Kastner Case

>>Introduction

>>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>>3CR for anti-semitism.

>>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>>what Kastner was accused of.

>>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>>been unable to find out what it is all about.

>>The Accusations

>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>>he wrote:

>>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there.

>>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>>not too high for me.

>>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.

>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>>The Verdict

>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>>backfire on the censors themselves.

>>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.

>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>>the Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.

>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.

>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.

>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.

>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>>expensively if honorably guided.

>>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.

>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.

>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?

>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.

>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from the book of the living.

>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.

>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>>to another.”

>>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>>General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.

>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.

>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.

>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.

>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>>the good intention of good Becher’.

>>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>>in Nuremberg.

>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements.” (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.

>>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>>matter.

>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.

>>But the story does not end there.

>>The Reaction

>>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.

>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

>>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)

>>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

>>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).

>>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

>>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>>defense.” (23 June 1955)

>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.

>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>> disclose.” (23 June 1955)

>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.

>>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>>*Ma’ariv*:

>>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>>of our history!

>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)

>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)

>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.

>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.

>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.

>>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.

>>The Majority Judgement

>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.

>>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>>totally missing the point.

>>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>>Kastner.
>>They JOINED him.

>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:

>>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>protocol 465).

>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

>>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a moral and public point of view…

>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….

>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.

>>The Minority Judgement

>>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

>>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….

>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’

>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a claim of such good faith…

>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.

>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.

>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

>>Conclusion

>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration with the Nazis.

>>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.

>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.

>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.

>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.

>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>>secret service.
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>>admitted in court during the murder trial).

>>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>>at least as an insurance policy.

>>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>>existed.
>>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.

>>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

>>We shall go on to prove this in detail.

>>Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
>>Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
>>Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
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WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
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The more than 100 MILLION killed by ZYD COMMUNISM in the USSR, far outweighs
the few hundred thousand ZYDS who died in WWII.

The 33 millions who perished in the Ukraine alone gave the Ukrainians cause to
really dislike the ZYD kommissars and their henchmen, when they had a chance
to retaliate in the Great Patriotic war.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:07:02 GMT, [email protected] (DK) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, alejandro de tacobell wrote:
>>it’s often been said that the holocaust was uniquely horrific while
>>mass killings under communism was just run-of-the-mill, only on a
>>larger scale. supposedly, nothing like the holocaust had ever happened
>>before or since.

>>jews can criticize, condemn, ridicule, mock, and spit on aspects of
>>non-jewish culture but we cannot criticize anything about jews, jewish
>>history, jewish values, jewish influence. this must change.

>The usual Tony Gaza’s mental diarrhea.

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On Tue, 30 May 2006 12:19:07 -0000, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
wrote:

>On 2006-05-30, le Corbeau wrote …

>> wow! is Jew boy a pedophile too??? Such a pervert, his parents must be
>> mortified!

Why do you think that Dezi’s dad, a cop, committed suicide?

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On Sun, 28 May 2006 15:38:31 GMT, “Daz” wrote:
>”Unicorn” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> Here is a Video:
>> Scenes from the streets of Moscow
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5023466.stm

>> “Asterix” wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> Aren’t faggots supposed to be burned?
>>> Did someone forget the Molotov Cocktails for the celebrations?

>Can you imagine Asterix as president of the USA? He’d probably extend the
>death penalty to include puffs.
>LOL
>Daz

A hell of a good idea.
I should have thought of it before you did.

>>> Glad to see that even in Russia, sensible people there do not want to
>>> create another Sodom & Gomorrah as is now in Canada, Usa and Britain!!

>>> On Sat, 27 May 2006 19:45:32 +0100, Michael McCann >>> wrote:

>>>>http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13526011,00.html

>>>>The first Gay Rights march held in Moscow has been broken up by
>>>>Russian police, militant Orthodox Christians and neo-fascists.

>>>>A group of about 40 marchers, led by 28-year-old Nikolia Alexeyev,
>>>>planned to lay flowers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. The tomb is
>>>>symbolic of the World War Two struggle against fascism.

On Sun, 28 May 2006 19:31:28 +0300, [email protected] (Eugene Holman)
wrote:

>In article <%[email protected]>, “«Pas de deux»”
> wrote:
>
>> “Pçteris Cedriòð (Peteris Cedrins)” wrote in message
>>
>> ” even in Daugavpils the red stars on the tombs [of Red Army soldiers
>> who died for Stalin and the Soviet Union]
>> have been replaced by Orthodox crosses (one hopes that none of those
>> buried there were were fervent Marxist-Leninists…).
>>
>> On the contrary. I think it’s cool that some fervent Marxist-Leninists
>> may have ended up with crosses instead of stars on their graves. It’s
>> only a drop in the sea of redress for the tens of thousands of Balts who
>> sleep in crappy cemeteries {or unmarked or star-marked graves} in
>> Siberia. Some of my relatives included. But Holman and a few others
>> will tell me it was all for a good cause …
>
>I most certainly will not.
>
>\EH

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Subject: ZYDS=NAZI COLLABORATORS!! KASTNER CASE,RUMKOWSKI+50 More Cases Documented! Repost
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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.

>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.

>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.

>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.

>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini’s
Italy.
>>>Brenner’s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha’avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
‘nationality’
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No! And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.

>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,’assimilation’ of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ‘It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own’
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives ‘both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli’ in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.

# 5 The Kastner Case
ZHID KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS – 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some “controversy” about negotiations he undertook
for “the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment,” but that he was “fully rehabilitated” by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, “I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.”

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price…was not too high for me.

“…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

“Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

“As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal…
‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment.”

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
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Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
[email protected]

Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.

Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
‘controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
ehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
—————-
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

“Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

‘I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations…I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’.

And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying ‘In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
————
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

“The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.

It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another.”

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

“From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

“Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.” (ibid)

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
————-
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

“All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

“Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
“The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense.” (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
“If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
*Ma’ariv*:
“What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p.
268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Majority Judgement
————————-
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.

Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

“…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which
one can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

n other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The Minority Judgement
————————–
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

“I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc – and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
– nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)

Conclusion
———–
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
‘dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships’.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
‘now dead’.

Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).

Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.

The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.

Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

We shall go on to prove this in detail.
——————————————————————
Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
mail: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, [email protected]
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

Posted by:
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
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We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
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or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
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I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: “George” ,
and [email protected]

Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

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From: Vishnu – destroyer of Nazi Coughlan’s support of the Shoah

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Subject: Re: Dezi gets Close + Personal With Noles Who Exposed Him as Nazi
-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:28:24 -0700
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On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, “Philippe ‘Suffer the little children to come
onto me and give me a blowjob’ KKKoughlan ”
after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:

>https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/

Oh, my… KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more. The fight
is on… and the votes are now being cast. Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
hate the Jews more?

Think KKK doesn’t hate the Jews? Think again. This is just a short list
of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
the “innocence” (sic) of every Nazi —

His words — “The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.” See —
http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as “inhuman.”

His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution for those found
guilty of being Jewish’.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf

His words — “even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man…” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
Insisting that Auschwitz was “more humane” than California. And one elder
murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.

His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to refer to the legal execution
of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f

His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal…” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6

His words — “if it’s legal, it’s moral, Jed” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews “legally inhuman” and MORAL
to kill six million of them.

His words — “Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631

His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
Wiesenthal —
“At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
was a crime under international law.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
KKK insists was the “murder by lynching” of Eichmann.

In respect to the question — “Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?”
His words — “Isn’t there room for mercy ? For the sure knowledge that this
91-year- old man, isn’t in a position to harm anyone.”
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi… because he insist it’s been
60 years.

His words — “German society said that the extermination of the Jews
was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of “German society.”
He might as well have said — “Every German was a Nazi guard in an
Eastern European extermination camp.” Since his comment means
just the same. A large part of the German population of that time
might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
idea that “German society” supported the HOLOCAUST as a
“moral, legal, ethical thing to do,” is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
made in AADP.

His words — “In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
than 25 years. The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
Treblinka was measured in minutes. Yet he insists that “morally and legally”
this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
murderer.

His words — “Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles. In addition to
him claiming the Holocaust was moral. And concluding with that
obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
his words — ” Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ.”

Notice that he DARED to mention “human rights,” given the bloody
past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews. The persecution for
those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
Jews. All part of what he argued was the “bright beacon of morality”
in Europe during what he insists was “it’s Golden age of persecution
of the Jews.” Yeah… Americans are in awe and
insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems and dispatching
them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years. Let’s all
give a big cheer for Jesus ‘motherfucker’ Christ…the name lent to
being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time… but
KKKoughlan’s hero.

His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today — “yet by
milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being
pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
is less than 150% pro-Jewish. Essentially insulting every Jew
living today.

His words — “certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
justify their own excesses.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
justify their own excesses.

His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is ‘just’, in
which case, so was the extermination of the Jews. See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
ever witnessed in AADP. Since the proposition is only true if one equates
convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews. But looking beyond
that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be “just,” by his definition must also find
the Holocaust to have been “just.”

His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic — “However, it’s fatuous to claim that Europe
is ‘anti-Semitic’, based on the number of ‘anti-Semitic’ events that take
place. If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
anti-Semitic country on the planet.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.

He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
Bernard, who referred to Israel as “that shitty little country.” In his
post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
and defended that perverse comment. One of his comments in
that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was — “Israel does not need to
kill children, to ensure its survival. Israel does not need to target the
innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival. Israel does
not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
ensure its survival. The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
long run, than they will help it. Sharon came to power on a security
‘ticket’, and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
ensured the security of Israel and her citizens.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
innocent Jews. Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a “kill every
Jew” ticket. As he also admits he is “anti-Jewish government.”

He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11. His
words — “I’d put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
attacks.” While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent. See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d

Of course he also screamed in rage that — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
spagmerchant.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5

But when it came to providing what he considered “proof” of him being
Jewish, he stated — “I don’t believe in God … but I was ‘born Jewish.’
See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6

And how many here… even those who would call him a “friend,” have said they
believe he is Jewish? The answer is ZERO. Even when I cajole them for an
answer.
While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
Jewish. All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
“wears the yellow star” as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
using that handle. The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
personal comic parody.

And of course we have John Rennie’s comment regarding the personal
conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here — “DESMOND
UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130

Planet Visitor II
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html

KKKoughlan’s words — “”send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to
give me a blowjob whenever I want one.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf

Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan’s own feeling as to
who he considers a “CHILD.” If so, let me provide KKKoughlan’s own
words of who he feels is a “CHILD.” His words — “”the term ‘child’ isn’t
defined by you and your NRA buddies. It’s defined in international law,
and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928

KKKoughlan… a self-admitted pedophile.

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From: Ken McVay
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
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From: [email protected]
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
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22.1.2001

DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA

Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
PORNO- und ABZOCKMAFIA.

Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
machen, werden andere Meldungen – die tatsaechlich
veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.

Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche und alle irren
Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.

Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
“Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis” offenbar problemlos
entfliehen konnte. Wie das?

Der Direktor dieses noblen “Etablishments” und weitere
30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
verhaftet. Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
“Ueberredungskunst” oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
entgegensetzen?

Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
gezeigt. Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.

Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
vor, Jude zu sein. Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
nur der groesste antisemitische und rassistische
Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher, Holocaust-Luegner
und auch Massenmoerder ist.

Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
Ganoven und Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
des von “Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk” fuer nur 12 Monate
Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.

Sei’s wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten –
und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.

Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
muessen sie als Juden nichts.

Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)

Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
wie bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
“Holocaustdenkmaeler” (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).

Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
noch keine “Wiedergutmachungen” und “Entschuldigungen”
(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.

Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.

I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate

KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: [email protected]

My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: [email protected]

Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
National Alliance – www.natvan.com
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.

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Subject: GERMANY: “I See an Absolutely Hostile Mood Towards Jews” GERMAN JEWISH COUNCIL PRESIDENT CHARLOTTE KNOBLOCH-Repost
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:55:20 GMT, in can.politics “torresD”
wrote:

GERMAN JEWISH COUNCIL PRESIDENT CHARLOTTE KNOBLOCH
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434508,00.html
SPIEGEL ONLINE:

When you took office you said one of the main focuses of your work
would be the struggle against right-wing extremism.

Has the conflict in the Middle East worsened anti-Semitic
attitudes in Germany?

Knobloch: It has, unfortunately.

I see an absolutely hostile attitude towards Jews and Israel.

Signs that read “Israel — Child Murderers” are being carried through the
streets at demonstrations here, for example.

The police don’t confiscate these placards.

Persons that deal with the issue only marginally,
or not at all, are influenced negatively.

That’s the basis of this hostile attitude.

You can find it everywhere.

We’re currently organizing a fundraising concert, for example,
and even there we get negative, anti-Semitic mail.

No distinctions are made.

We’re sucked into the current Middle East conflict one hundred percent,
as Jewish citizens in Germany.

And those politicians who latch onto this hostile mood with carefully
prepared statements are of course doing better than ever.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Who do you mean?

Knobloch:

Oskar Lafontaine, the leader of the Left Party, for example.

Left Party parliamentarians aren’t particularly objective in their
evaluation of the catastrophe in the Middle East.

I’m also thinking of Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul, the Minister of Economic
Aid and Development and member of the Social Democrat Party (SPD).

These people encourage the hostile mood against Jews.

I’ve never experienced anything quite like this.

It’s on a new level.

This hostile mood is now more noticeable in the German public
than it used to be.

It’s infiltrated every group and every level of society.

I hope this development can be reversed by a joint effort on
the part of all democratic forces.

Otherwise all the positive images I have about Germany would be put
into question.

I unpacked my suitcase in this country.
And I don’t want to have to repack it.

Interview conducted by Sebastian Fischer and Claus Christian Malzahn.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
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IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
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of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

~~

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These are the best pictures I can find of me, LOL…
Spouting Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/apzwp

Isn’t ‘Ariadne’ the literal for (female) “spawn of Satan?”
The “spawn” on her treadmill… http://tinyurl.com/qomwc

This is one from when she was up on a midnight run to the
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http://tinyurl.com/rxum3

Arid-Asshole at a ladies only Sumo Swim-Meet in Sheffield:
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On Sun, 20 August 2006 08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book “OTHER LOSSES” by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!

>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, “Schorsch” wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Schorsch wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike’s Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest…….

>>>From: [email protected] (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: “Ike”‘s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF “IKE’S DEATH CAMPS”

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in ‘the land of the free’?”

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>”Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect… Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks…One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald…The book blames Eisenhower. ‘The German is a beast,’
>>>Ike had written…But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly…It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton…Ignoring the book is not enough.”
>>>Pat Buchanan’s courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the “banality of evil”,
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the “Battle of
>>>the Bulge”, my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a “repo depo” (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from “higher up”. No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term “war criminal” was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners’ food, and that these orders came from “higher up”. But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the “offense”, and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, “Why?” he mumbled,
>>>”Target practice,” and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn’t tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of “my country, right or wrong, my country,” which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. “Yankee
>>>traders” were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the “graveyard shift”, from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn’t bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn’t
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing — both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed “mystical”. However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly ‘broke the ice’, and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German (“Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen”). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>”Eisenhower jacket” so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow ‘killing fields’.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were “camp followers”, selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn’t think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a “fancy Nazi
>>>medal”, which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him “off
>>>her back”, but I didn’t think one of our ‘death camps’ was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his “dirty work”.

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible — that is, when they weren’t chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by “displaced persons”
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the “contraband”
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more “available”, but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was “just friends”
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies’ atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government’ s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it’s difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to “talk” because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I “spoke out” recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that “the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear.” And, in any case, “the truth shall out”.

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…

Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of “Holocaust Denier”, when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn’t mention any German suffering:
https://nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources “gassed millions of
Jews”?!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.

>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case, one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!

>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi wrote:

>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.

>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews >>wrote:

>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG–
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.”
>>>I’ve seen photos of naked children, … and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society).”?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>> Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>> alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: [email protected] (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland. The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem. However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education. These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book. In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next “relocation”!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA. Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > ————-
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia – [email protected]
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.

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Harris – Heydrich: Ein Unterschied?

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil “Luftkrieg” mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil “Luftkrieg” mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner

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ADL ZYDS Dislike Methodists’ for Divesting From israel

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:24:43 -0600 (MDT), in soc.culture.europe FrankArthur
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:32:23 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish “torresdD”
wrote:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3418316,00.html
Methodists ‘bordering anti-Semitism’

ADL Director slams American Christian group for Israel
divestment call

Yaakov Lappin Published:
06.27.07, 16:37 / Israel Jewish Scene

The United Methodist Church’s call to divest from companies linked to
Israel “is bordering on anti-Semitism,”

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman told Ynetnews
on Wednesday.

Foxman furiously condemned recommendations made by the
New England branch of the Methodist Church for its members to divest
“from twenty companies identified as supporting the Israeli occupation
in Palestine.”

The recommendations were made by a “task force” of clergy and church
members set up to implement a “resolution to end the Israeli occupation,”
a statement by the Church added.

Foxman, who is currently in Israel, said it was “sad that a religious
institution whose job should be to reconcile continues to be biased
and bigoted.”

He added that in the past two years, “there has been a war perpetrated by
Hizbullah, katyushas rockets, and terrorist acts.

Now Hamas, that does not recognize Israel’s right to exist and perpetrated
violence, has gotten itself elected, and is in control of a million and a half
Palestinians.

And the Methodists are still there to teach Israel a lesson.”

“My reaction is one of outrage to this biased decision,
which borders on anti-Semitism.

The facts show that any decent fair-minded, spiritual, godly person would not
come to a conclusion to boycott the victim, the one that has been praying for
peace, suing for peace, hoping for peace.

To make Israel the target is just outrageous,” Foxman added.

In the Church’s statement, William P. Aldrich, chairperson
of the ‘Divestment Task Force,’ was quoted as saying:
“Selective divestment is consistent with the United Methodist commitment
to a just and sustainable peace for all the people of the Middle East.”

He added that the divestment campaign
“offers a tangible way of working toward this goal.”

In its press release, the Church said it knew its actions would not have an
impact on Israel’s economy, adding that “this is not the goal.”

“The goal is to make all United Methodists and other Americans aware of their
relationship to companies that benefit from the Israeli occupation,” the
statement added.

“The urgency of the humanitarian crisis in the occupied Palestinian
territories cannot be overstated,” the United Methodist Church
declared on its website.

Church ackowledges bias

In a separate development, the ADL has welcomed the United
Church of Christ’s (UCC) acknowledgment that it has advocated
an unbalanced and one-sided policy against the state of Israel.

The UCC passed a new resolution this week calling for a more
balanced approach to the Middle East conflict.

“We are heartened that members of the United Church of Christ
have come to recognize that Israel deserves a fair hearing and
that some of their policy declarations in the past were based
on unfair and biased assumptions,” Foxman said.

“It is a welcome development, and the start of a healthy process
toward a better understanding of a very complex and complicated
history,” he added.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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In other words, only ZYD criminals left Poland for Israel?

It seems sensible people in Poland, even ZYDS,
prefer Poland to the hell that is Israhell?

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:22:03 -0000, vladek wrote:
>On Jul 11, 7:28 am, Iamhere wrote:
>> On Jul 10, 4:53 pm, vladek wrote:

>> > > My question is this: when considering
>> > > the brainpower of Jews, are Jewish Poles allowed to emigrate to Israel
>> > > or instead are kept imprisoned by Polish authorities for fear of
>> > > losing the country’s greatest assets?

>> > >Iamhere
>> > > ———————————————————————-

>> > Yamhill,

>> > Why don’t you post your question on Soc.Culture.Jewish ?
>> > You could get more direct answer there. Have you tried ?

>> Vlasic, don’t you make pickles? SCJ is for BASIC not SPECIFIC
>> questions and answers. For instance, if I asked SCJ the number of
>> Jewish Poles becoming olim or if the Warsaw government is holding them
>> prisoners, the answer would be, “Ask SCP.” Now do you understand?

>> Iamhere

>Now I understand why no one has responded.

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>On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos” wrote:

>>The Accusations

>> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
>> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>> deeds of the war.

>> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
>> on my arm

>> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
>> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
>> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
>> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
>> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
>> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>> camps, the price…was not too high for me.

>> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
>> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

>> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
>> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>> blood to achieve his political goal…
>> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
>> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
>> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
>> money and military equipment.”

>> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
>> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>> -88-

>KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

>Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
>and RUMKOWSKI!!
>The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
>GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

>On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer wrote:

>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest…….

>>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>>Date: 1997/07/12

>>The Kastner Case

>>Introduction

>>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>>3CR for anti-semitism.

>>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>>what Kastner was accused of.

>>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>>been unable to find out what it is all about.

>>The Accusations

>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>>he wrote:

>>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there.

>>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>>not too high for me.

>>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.

>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>>The Verdict

>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>>backfire on the censors themselves.

>>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.

>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>>the Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.

>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.

>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.

>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.

>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>>expensively if honorably guided.

>>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.

>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.

>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?

>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.

>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from the book of the living.

>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.

>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>>to another.”

>>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>>General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.

>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.

>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.

>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.

>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>>the good intention of good Becher’.

>>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>>in Nuremberg.

>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements.” (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.

>>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>>matter.

>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.

>>But the story does not end there.

>>The Reaction

>>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.

>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

>>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)

>>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

>>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).

>>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

>>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>>defense.” (23 June 1955)

>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.

>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>> disclose.” (23 June 1955)

>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.

>>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>>*Ma’ariv*:

>>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>>of our history!

>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)

>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)

>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.

>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.

>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.

>>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.

>>The Majority Judgement

>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.

>>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>>totally missing the point.

>>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>>Kastner.
>>They JOINED him.

>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:

>>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>protocol 465).

>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

>>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a moral and public point of view…

>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….

>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.

>>The Minority Judgement

>>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

>>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….

>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’

>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a claim of such good faith…

>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.

>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.

>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

>>Conclusion

>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration with the Nazis.

>>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.

>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.

>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.

>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.

>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>>secret service.
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>>admitted in court during the murder trial).

>>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>>at least as an insurance policy.

>>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>>existed.
>>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.

>>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

>>We shall go on to prove this in detail.

>>Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
>>Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
>>Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

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On Sat, 19 May 2007 10:41:26 -0600, in de.soc.politik.misc Matthias Kern
wrote:

Israel will wieder mal in Deutschland regieren…
Immer die verfluechten Juden!

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:03:15 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Andreas Gumtow
wrote:

21. Oktober 2006
Stein dringt auf Initiative gegen Rechtsextreme

Israels Botschafter in Deutschland, Schimon Stein, hat an Politik und
Gesellschaft appelliert, gemeinsam gegen den Rechtsradikalismus aktiv
zu werden.
In der “Neuen Osnabrücker Zeitung” sagte Stein, es handele sich “nicht
mehr um Randerscheinungen”, wenn Rechtsradikale in die Landtage von
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Brandenburg und Sachsen gewählt worden seien.
] N24

Wann geht Herr Stein denn nun gegen Liebermann vor? Der ist wesentlich
extremer und sitzt nicht etwa “nur” in einem Landtag sondern in der
Knesset. Welche extreme Partei, außer natürlich der linksextremen
SED/PDS NAchfolgeorganisation “LINKE”, sitzt im Bundestag? Oder ist
das nicht so schlimm weil Liebermann und Co ja zu den “RICHTIGEN”(tm)
gehört?


In der Politik ist es ähnlich wie im Pflegeheim…

Auch Politiker müssen öfter mal gewendet werden,
sonst lügen die sich durch.

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JEW-WATCH:
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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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The more than 100 MILLION killed by ZYD COMMUNISM in the USSR, far outweighs
the few hundred thousand ZYDS who died in WWII.

The 33 millions who perished in the Ukraine alone gave the Ukrainians cause to
really dislike the ZYD kommissars and their henchmen, when they had a chance
to retaliate in the Great Patriotic war.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:07:02 GMT, [email protected] (DK) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, alejandro de tacobell wrote:
>>it’s often been said that the holocaust was uniquely horrific while
>>mass killings under communism was just run-of-the-mill, only on a
>>larger scale. supposedly, nothing like the holocaust had ever happened
>>before or since.

>>jews can criticize, condemn, ridicule, mock, and spit on aspects of
>>non-jewish culture but we cannot criticize anything about jews, jewish
>>history, jewish values, jewish influence. this must change.

>The usual Tony Gaza’s mental diarrhea.

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:01:45 -0400, in alt.revisionism “Neil Harrington”
wrote:

>From Prof. Norman Finkelstein’s site, January 2006 article

New Woes at the House of Hucksters (w/Finkelstein’s comment)

NGF comments: In The Holocaust Industry I documented the World Jewish
Congress’s double shakedown of Swiss banks and Nazi holocaust victims. The
mastermind of this plot was a repellant sewer rat named Rabbi Israel Singer
who headed the World Jewish Congress. In the appendix to the second
paperback edition of my book I stated that Singer won’t be stopped “unless
he is finally put where he belongs, behind bars.” It seems that day might
not be so far off. In the past year it has been reported that while
denouncing the Swiss banks for using secrecy laws to deny Jews access to
their Holocaust-era accounts, Singer himself opened up a secret Swiss bank
account where he was squirreling away monies pilfered from the World Jewish
Congress. Now it seems that the House of Hucksters is beset with yet new
scandals.

Ganzfried, the Swiss journalist, has been sharply critical of Jewish
communal efforts to win back Holocaust-era assets, which have roiled Swiss
Jews’ relations with their neighbors. He said his upcoming articles will be
aimed at documenting the shortcomings in that process.

WJC Fights Publication Of Articles On Its Woes

January 20, 2006 | The Forward
By NATHANIEL POPPER

The World Jewish Congress is fighting to block publication in Switzerland of
a series of magazine articles that reportedly will contain damaging new
allegations about the organization’s management and handling of funds.

(article continues at this link)

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=55

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Vergiss niemals! Bewaehrt Euch vor ZYDS!Niemals wieder!

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE MORDUJE W RUSSIA – Wahrheit
Data: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:29:40 -0600
Wiadomoœæ – ID: < [email protected] >

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel “Whip”
< [email protected] > napisa³:

“¿YDOWSKI RYTUA³ MORDUJE” W RUSSIA
PIÊÆ DZIECI ZNALAZ³O CA³KOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SP³YNʳA OD CIA³!
TRUPY zosta³y USTAWIONE w p³omieniach, BY SCHOWAÆ KREW SP³YWAJ¹C¹

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed pocz¹tkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, piêæ dzieci, Muslim i Christian, “znikniêtego” w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk. ich spalone cia³a zosta³y
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dó³.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj ¿e
du¿o Rosjanie w mieœcie s¹ przekonani, ¿e dzieci rytualnie zosta³y
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy póŸniej sp³onêli ich cia³a ukryæ
zbrodniê i zapobiec eksperci znaleŸæ w cia³ach brak krwi, która jest
u¿yta przez Hasidic ¯ydzi dla celów rytua³u.

Ma³o ludzi w mieœcie wierzy, ¿e Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodz¹ do próby i, ¿e morderstwa w³aœciwie by³yby rozjaœnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentuj¹cy zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedzia³y papierowi, ¿e 5 niezale¿nych ekspertów
potwierdzi³o brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych cia³ach.

” Jestem pewny, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem”, on
powiedzia³.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezale¿ny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
¿e jest du¿a Jewish spo³ecznoœæ w Krasnoyarsk i ¿e
w³adze robi¹ w ich moc czego, by ukryæ, ¿e to rytualne morderstwo
zaanga¿owane przez ¯ydzi. Œwiadek doniós³ widzenie cia³ dzieci
rzuconych nietkniêtych dó³ jako zakaza³ przez Jewish rytua³ i wtedy ktoœ
spalony wtedy do ukrywaj¹ rany rytua³u w okreœlonych miejscach cia³
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedzia³.

Badacz przypomnia³ dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy ¯ydowski aktywista spo³ecznoœci, Beilis, zosta³ zatrzymany i zosta³
oskar¿ony morderstwa i póŸniej wypuœci³ przez s¹d z powodu
niewystarczaj¹cego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwy¿ka wagi miêdzy s¹dem.

“Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky te¿ mia³o miejsce ma³o dnia przed
¯ydowski Passover, jego cia³o te¿ zosta³o skrwawione i zosta³o
rzucone pogrzeb”, Mr którego Nazarov powiedzia³.

“I Beilis nale¿a³ do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic ga³êzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar … kopie American gangstes
æwiczy siê (on zosta³ urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin”, Pan, z którym Nazarov do³¹czy³ jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedŸ œwiatow¹ najlepszy ocenion¹
stronê internetow¹ dla JEW – WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z wiêcej dowodem wychodz¹cym udowadniaj¹cym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŒCI – innych 51 przypadków oprócz s³awnego przypadku Kastner – nic
dziwne ludzie dooko³a œwiata naprawdê nie lubi¹ Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawieraj¹:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN – Dedicated do Freedom Press,
Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
Poprzyj: [email protected]

Albo, odwiedŸ stronê internetow¹ dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :

Home


Oni maj¹ du¿o informacji, jak równie¿ ksi¹¿ki i zapisy.

Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < [email protected] >, albo do
[email protected], albo [email protected]
Czuæ siê swobodnie , by zaprenumerowaæ nas do maillists dla p³ci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.

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Maybe they can sell all the info to countries such as North Korea, Iraq, Iran
or similar, who could take care of the CIA spies appropriately.

And to think that this time it was not another filthy ZYD like Pollard who
provided all the useful info.

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:01:05 GMT, FriarTuck
wrote:

>http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WHI20070621&articleId=6104

>The CIA and Fatah; Spies, Quislings and the Palestinian Authority

>by Mike Whitney

>Global Research, June 21, 2007
>informationclearinghouse.info

>When Hamas gunmen stormed the Fatah security compounds in Gaza last week
>they found huge supplies of American-made weaponry including 7,400 M-16
>assault rifles, dozens of mounted machine guns, rocket launchers, 7
>armored military jeeps, 800,000 rounds of bullets and 18 US-made armored
>personnel carriers. They also discovered something far more valuable—
>CIA files which purportedly contain “information about the collaboration
>between Fatah and the Israeli and American security organizations; CIA
>methods on how to prevent attacks, chase and follow after cells of Hamas
>and the Committees; plans about Fatah assassinations of members of Hamas
>and other organizations; and American studies on the security situation in
>Gaza.” (Aaron Klein, WorldNetDaily.com)

>If the documents prove to be authentic, they will confirm what many
>critics of Fatah believed from the beginning; that US-Israeli intelligence
>agencies have been collaborating with high-ranking members of the PA to
>help crush the Palestinian national liberation movement. The information
>could be disastrous for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and his
>newly-appointed “emergency government”. It could destroy their
>credibility before they even take office.

>The extent of Fatah’s cooperation with the CIA is still unknown, but an
>article in The New York Sun, (“Hamas Takes over Gaza Security
>Services” 6-15-07) suggests that the two groups may have been working
>together closely. Former Middle East CIA operations officer Robert Baer,
>who was interviewed in the article, said that the discovery of the
>documents was “a major blow to Fatah” and will show “a record of
>training, spying on Hamas”.

>Baer added ironically, “Fatah equals CIA is not a good selling point.”

>Baer is right. The uncovering of the documents is “big trouble” for
>Abbas who is already facing a loss of public confidence from his closeness
>to Israel and for his appointment of Salam Fayyad, the ex-World bank
>official who the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz calls “everyone’s
>favorite Palestinian.”

>Perhaps more significant is the fact that members of Hamas who spoke with
>WorldNetDaily claimed that “the files contain, among other information,
>details of CIA networks in the Middle East” and that Hamas plans to
>“use these documents and make portions public to prove the collaboration
>between America and traitor Arab countries.” Imagine what a headache it
>will be for the Bush administration if Hamas exposes the broader network
>of US spies and Arab quislings operating throughout region.

>Bush Support for “Regime Change” in the PA

>It’s no secret that the Bush administration has been funneling money to
>Palestinian militias that are preparing to overthrow Hamas. On Monday,
>Condoleezza Rice announced that the US would resume “full assistance to
>the Palestinian government” and end the year long boycott to the people
>in the West Bank. The new aid—which could amount to as much as $86
>million—will be used to shore up the PA security apparatus and pay the
>salaries of officials in the “emergency government.” The uncovering of
>the CIA documents in Gaza will cast a cloud over the administration’s
>largesse and make Abbas look like a Palestinian Karzai who gets financial
>treats from Washington to follow their diktats.

>Yesterday, Condoleezza Rice was given the task of outlining the
>administration’s new policy vis-à-vis the Abbas’ “emergency
>government”. The Bush team had already decided the night before that
>they would throw their full support behind Abbas and his “unelected”
>clatter of pro-western stooges. Rice could hardly contain her glee the
>next day when she ascended the podium and began wagging her finger
>reproachfully at Hamas:

>”Hamas has made its choice,” Condi growled. “It has sought to attempt
>to extinguish democratic debate with violence and to impose its
>extremist’s agenda on the Palestinian people in Gaza, now responsible
>Palestinians are making their choice and it is the duty of the
>international community to support those Palestinians who wish to build a
>better life and a future of peace.”

>This typically Orwellian statement was intended to justify the deposing of
>the legally-elected government of Palestine. No matter; Rice’s
>pronouncements are always reiterated verbatim in the media without
>challenge regardless of how incongruous they may be.

>The Bush administration had plenty of time to observe developments on the
>ground and make an informed decision about what to do next. There was no
>need to hurry. Instead, they decided to blunder ahead and launch their
>“West Bank First” policy which commits US support to Abbas without any
>consideration of the public mood. The frantic pace of the decision-making,
>makes it look like Bush and Olmert are elevating Abbas to promote their
>own political agendas. Naturally, the Palestinians can be expected to
>resent this conspicuous outside meddling.

>Former President Jimmy Carter was the first to blast Bush’s new plan. He
>said that “the United States, Israel and the European Union must end
>their policy of favoring Fatah over Hamas, or they will doom the
>Palestinian people to deepening conflict between the rival movements….
>Carter said that Hamas, besides winning a fair and democratic mandate that
>should have entitled it to lead the Palestinian government and that the
>Bush administration’s refusal to accept the 2006 election victory of Hamas
>was ‘criminal.’”

>Carter’s comments appeared in just one newspaper–the Jerusalem Post.
>The ex-president has been increasingly marginalized since he dared to
>imply that Israel is an apartheid state. But Carter’s analysis is
>dead-on—Bush is just aggravating an already tense situation. He’d be
>better off trying to bring the two sides together and reconciling their
>differences rather than igniting a potentially explosive confrontation.
>Besides, Abbas’ close ties to Washington and Tel Aviv doesn’t bode
>well for his government’s long-term prospects. The US and Israel are
>widely reviled in the occupied territories and, as author Khalid Amayreh
>says, “Palestinians won’t accept a Vichy Government.

>Three days ago Abbas disbanded the Hamas-dominated parliament and sacked
>Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. Abbas had no legal justification for this
>action. In fact, the “Basic Law” which applies to this case stipulates
>that “The President cannot suspend the legislative Council during a
>state of emergency” and there is “no provision whatsoever for an
>emergency government”. The president does not even have the authority to
>“call for new elections”—let alone, replace the elected
>representatives of the people. Abbas only support comes from political
>leaders in Tel Aviv and Washington and their reluctant accomplices in the
>EU.

>The key issue here is whether democratic elections have any real meaning
>or if they can simply be rescinded by executive decree?

>This question should be as relevant to Americans as it is to Palestinians.
>After all, both people now face a similar predicament; the flagrant abuse
>of executive authority to enhance the powers of the president. In both
>cases, the president must be forced to conform to the law. Democracy
>cannot be decided by fiat.

>Free elections are not a crime—that is, unless one lives in the Occupied
>Territories. Then voting for the candidate of one’s choice provides the
>justification for cutting off food, water, medicine, and financial
>resources—as well a stepping up a campaign of illegal detentions,
>destruction of personal property and targeted assassinations.

>This is what the “Bush Doctrine” looks like in the Gaza Strip today.
>The occupants of the “most densely populated place on earth”
>participated in the balloting at insistence of the Bush administration and
>they’ve been rewarded for their cooperation with a savage boycott and
>daily brutality.

>If Bush didn’t want democracy, then why did he force it on the
>Palestinians?

>Political powerbrokers in the US and Israel immediately rejected the
>election results and initiated a plan to scuttle Hamas through economic
>strangulation, persistent harassment and covert warfare. For the last
>year, the newly “elected” government has shown remarkable restraint
>under constant assault. Hamas has kept its word and refrained from suicide
>bombings in Israel even though hundreds of Palestinian civilians have been
>killed or injured during that same time. In fact, there has NOT BEEN ONE
>HAMAS-BACKED SUICIDE BOMBING SINCE THE PARTY TOOK OFFICE. (This fact is
>invariably ignored by the media which is far-more sympathetic to the
>Israeli position) We should remember that suicide bombing has been used
>for years as the excuse for putting off “final settlement”
>negotiations. Now that the bombing has stopped, Israel has invented an
>entirely new excuse to avoid dialogue, that is, that Hamas “refuses to
>recognize the state of Israel”.

>Actually, it is Israel that refuses to accept Palestinian statehood—a
>fact that is further underlined by its relentless efforts to topple the
>Hamas government.

>Hamas has done nothing illegal since they were elected. The Qassam rockets
>which are fired into Israel are the unavoidable corollary of the 40-year
>long occupation. How is Hamas supposed to stop these sporadic attacks? If
>Israel seriously believed that Hamas was responsible for the rockets, they
>wouldn’t hesitate to arrest or kill every leader in the current
>parliament. The fact is, Israel knows that Hamas is not instigating these
>attacks. It’s just another red herring.

>Regardless of what one may think about Hamas, Prime Minister Ismail
>Haniyeh has shown that he is a man who can be trusted to keep his word. In
>an interview in the Washington Post with Lally Weymouth, Haniyeh and asked
>him if Hamas sought the “obliteration of the Jewish people”? (another
>myth propagated in the western press)

>Haniyeh answered, “We do not have any feelings of animosity toward Jews.
>We do not wish to throw them into the sea. All we seek is to be given our
>land back, not to harm anybody.”

>This, of course, is not the response that neocon extremists in the
>US-Israeli political establishment want to hear. It undermines the
>rationale for the ongoing military occupation and expansion of illegal
>settlements. They would rather promote the image of Palestinians as
>vicious radicals bent on the Israel’s complete annihilation. But how
>accurate is that image?

>In a particularly affecting editorial in the Washington Post, Prime
>Minister Haniyeh stated his case in simple terms. He said:

>“As I inspect the ruins of our infrastructure—all turned to rubble
>once more by F-16s and American-made missiles — my thoughts again turn to
>the minds of Americans. What do they think of this?

>They think of the pluck and “toughness” of Israel, “standing up” to
>”terrorists.” Yet a nuclear Israel possesses the 13th-largest military
>force on the planet, one that is used to rule an area about the size of
>New Jersey and whose adversaries there have no conventional armed forces.
>Who is the underdog, supposedly America’s traditional favorite, in this
>case?

>I hope that Americans will give careful thought to root causes and
>historical realities, (of) why a supposedly “legitimate” state such as
>Israel has had to conduct decades of war against a subject refugee
>population without ever achieving its goals.

>Israel’s nearly complete control over the lives of Palestinians is never
>in doubt, as confirmed by the humanitarian and economic suffering of the
>Palestinians since the January elections. Israel’s ongoing policies of
>expansion, military control and assassination mock any notion of
>sovereignty or bilateralism. Its “separation barrier,” running across our
>land, is hardly a good-faith gesture toward future coexistence.

>But there is a remedy, and while it is not easy it is consistent with our
>long-held beliefs. Palestinian priorities include recognition of the core
>dispute over the land of historical Palestine and the rights of all its
>people; resolution of the refugee issue from 1948; reclaiming all lands
>occupied in 1967; and stopping Israeli attacks, assassinations and
>military expansion. Contrary to popular depictions of the crisis in the
>American media, the dispute is not only about Gaza and the West Bank; it
>is a wider national conflict that can be resolved only by addressing the
>full dimensions of Palestinian national rights in an integrated manner.

>This means statehood for the West Bank and Gaza, a capital in Arab East
>Jerusalem, and resolving the 1948 Palestinian refugee issue fairly, on the
>basis of international legitimacy and established law. Meaningful
>negotiations with a non-expansionist, law-abiding Israel can proceed only
>after this tremendous labor has begun”.

>Haniyeh’s appeal to the American people helps us understand that what
>Hamas really wants is for Israel to conform to “unanimously approved”
>UN resolutions “predicated on historical truth, equity and justice.”

>Does that sound unreasonable? Wasn’t the same demanded of Saddam?

>Haniyeh is not a madman nor is he an “Islamofascist.” In fact, it may
>be that Haniyeh’s dreams are not that different from the average Israeli
>citizen.

>Consider the polls that were conducted just days after the election of
>Mahmoud Abbas. One survey showed that nearly 80% of Israelis supported
>immediate peace talks with the new Palestinian president. The Israeli
>leadership, of course, stubbornly refused even though Yasir Arafat had
>died a month earlier. The Israeli political establishment is resolutely
>against peace talks or negotiations. Unlike the vast majority of Israeli
>citizens–Israel’s ruling elite reject the principle of “land for
>peace!”

>Perhaps, Arafat wasn’t the “obstacle to peace” after all. Perhaps it
>was just a PR swindle to avoid real dialogue?
>
>Israeli leaders have no intention of negotiating with the Palestinians,
>regardless of what the Israeli public wants or who’s sitting in
>Ramallah. The Zionist “grand plan” will not be compromised by
>conferences or bartering. The military occupation and settlement activity
>will continue until US support dries up and Israel is forced to the
>bargaining table. Until then the onslaught will continue.

>Another Siege of Gaza?

>Ha’aretz reports that Israel is planning to launch a military operation
>in Gaza aimed at crushing Hamas.( “Barak planning military operation in
>Gaza within weeks” 6-17-07) The invasion will involve 20,000 troops,
>armored vehicles, tanks, and air support.

>But what is the justification? Is it because the US-Israeli plan to
>overthrow Hamas with Palestinian militias failed? Or is it because the
>duly-elected government has reclaimed the power it was given at the ballot
>box?

>According to an Israeli official, the invasion will be in response to the
>firing of Qassam rockets into Israel or another suicide bombing.

>In other words, Israel is devising a pretext for “regime change” EVEN
>BEFORE THEY ARE ATTACKED. Until then, the border crossings will remain
>closed, the blockade will be tightened, and the economic asphyxiation will
>continue.

>In the face of US-Israeli plotting, consider the comments of Prime
>Minister Haniyeh, who articulates as well as anyone, the aspirations of
>the Palestinians people:

>“We do not want to live on international welfare and American handouts.
>We want what Americans enjoy — democratic rights, economic sovereignty
>and justice. We thought our pride in conducting the fairest elections in
>the Arab world might resonate with the United States and its citizens.
>Instead, our new government was met from the very beginning by acts of
>explicit, declared sabotage by the White House. Now this aggression
>continues against 3.9 million civilians living in the world’s largest
>prison camps.

>We present this clear message: If Israel is prepared to negotiate
>seriously and fairly, and resolve the core 1948 issues, rather than the
>secondary ones from 1967, a fair and permanent peace is possible. Based on
>a hudna (comprehensive cessation of hostilities for an agreed time), the
>Holy Land still has an opportunity to be a peaceful and stable economic
>powerhouse for all the Semitic people of the region. If Americans only
>knew the truth, possibility might become reality”.

>Hamas history of violence is problematic, but it should not be an
>insurmountable obstacle to peace. The IRA had a similar history and, yet,
>those issues were ultimately resolved through the Good Friday peace
>accords. Now, the warring factions have joined together in a power-sharing
>agreement and there’s reason to believe that the armed struggle phase of
>the conflict is over. A similar remedy is possible between Israel and
>Palestine.

>Hamas entry into the political system should be seen for what it is— a
>step in the right direction. It is an indication that they are tired of
>the armed struggle and want to pursue a political solution. Israel and the
>US should be receptive to this. They should reward Hamas’ efforts to
>stop the suicide bombing and agree to backchannel negotiations. That will
>determine whether common ground can be reached on any of the main issues.
>If the violence resumes, Israel can always return to its present strategy
>but, it’s certainly worth a try.

>At the very least, Bush and Olmert should respect the will of the
>Palestinian people and allow Hamas to perform its duties without further
>hectoring, sanctions, violence or sabotage. The US and Israel have no
>right to intervene in the affairs of a sovereign government. If Hamas
>perpetrates violence against Israel, then Israel has every right to
>respond. But until then, they should show restraint and try to play a
>constructive role in strengthening the emergent Palestinian democracy.

>Mike Whitney is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global
>Research Articles by Mike Whitney

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On 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800, in soc.culture.palestine “Zionism is a cancer
growing on Uncle Sam’s ass. -” wrote:

Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
By Khalid Amayreh
Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

Reports

A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
unfounded.

Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
in a new book, published recently in Italy, that “there is a factual
basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.”

“I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
don’t claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
act and justified it.”

In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz Monday, 12
February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
them.

The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

“I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
prayers known from the Jewish prayer book,” Toaff was quoted as
saying.

He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn’t use
human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

“Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
Passover.

“Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
powers of children’s blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood.”

Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
even human blood.

Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
Jewish leaders and commentators for “vindicating anti-Semitism” and
giving anti-Semites a “cause celebre.”

Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
inter alia, “self-hating Jew” and “collaborator with anti-Semites.”

However, Toaff said he wouldn’t be silenced no matter how vociferous
are the criticisms of his book.

“I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
if the world crucifies me.”

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml

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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism “thedarkman”
wrote:

I wouldn’t pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek.
Don’t these people make you wanna laugh?

http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm

Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper “The Guardian,” Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,”Pasque di Sangue” (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper “Corriere Della
Sera,” which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff’s book reportedly “describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ’s execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for ‘magic and
therapeutic practices,'” noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff’s
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of “Rachel” on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah’s interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that “participated in human sacrifice,” undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: …You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who’s been involved and who hasn’t been involved, and it’s
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it’s a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There’s other Jewish families across the country. It’s
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I’ve spoke publicly before, and…

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it’s like if you grow
up with something, you think it’s normal. I always thought
something…

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don’t have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know…

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin’s ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.

Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book “Blood Ritual” by Philip DeVier and the
DVD “Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed,” the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.

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Notice that this is an honest ZYD professor from Israel, who, after much
research, is making public his findings, not some anti-semite.

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:51:00 -0700, Frank Arthur wrote:
>From: “Zionism is a cancer growing on Uncle Sam’s ass. -”
>
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>Subject: Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
>Date: 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800

>Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
>By Khalid Amayreh
>Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

>A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
>canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
>making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
>unfounded.

>Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
>in a new book, published recently in Italy, that “there is a factual
>basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.”

>”I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
>among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
>don’t claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
>Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
>act and justified it.”

>In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz Monday, 12
>February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
>records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
>Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

>The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
>March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
>and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
>Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
>them.

>The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
>seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
>Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
>sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

>”I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
>not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
>have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
>prayers known from the Jewish prayer book,” Toaff was quoted as
>saying.

>He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn’t use
>human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

>”Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
>Passover.

>”Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
>Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
>powers of children’s blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
>Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood.”

>Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
>religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
>even human blood.

>Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
>Jewish leaders and commentators for “vindicating anti-Semitism” and
>giving anti-Semites a “cause celebre.”

>Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
>to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

>Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
>Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
>inter alia, “self-hating Jew” and “collaborator with anti-Semites.”

>However, Toaff said he wouldn’t be silenced no matter how vociferous
>are the criticisms of his book.

>”I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
>if the world crucifies me.”

>http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml

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KATYN=MURDERS OF POLISH BY ZYDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! Like Vinnitsa!! NEVER FORGET!

>”Frank Arthur” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!

>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.

>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles

>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)

>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>> the discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1, 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to
>> The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.

>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used
>> the word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned,
>> as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>> single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was
>> to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>> guardians.

>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the
>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.

>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.

>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.

>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder
>> victims.
>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and
>> for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily,
>> and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.

>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew
>> of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>> three – two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to those lies.

>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>> anything.

>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>> the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government
>> in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>> victims of Katyn.

>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians.

>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this must have had on Kremlin thinking?

>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city, the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.

>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach

>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998

>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce

>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.

>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.

>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.

>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.

>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.

>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.

>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.

>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.

>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.

>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.

>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.

>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.

>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.

>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.

ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESE ZYD MURDERERS!!

>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.

>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.

>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?

>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.

>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.

>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.

>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.

>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZYDS isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.

>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.

>> ++++++++++++++

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>> http://www.hoffman-info.com

>> Euro-American Students Union
>> http://esu.simplenet.com

>> Katja Lane’s Fourteen Word Press
>> http://www.14words.com

>> National Alliance
>> http://www.natvan.com

>> Stormfront
>> http://www.stormfront.org

>> Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library
>> http://www.ddc.net/ygg

>> First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>> First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao tse Dung
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!!
>> Me

>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant

>>
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org

>> Newsgroups:
>> pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,
>> alt.politics.europe
>> Subject: KATYN=MURDERS BY ZYDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!

>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.

>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

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office: VISIT at:
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>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>> nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
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>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur
or to [email protected], [email protected] or
DR SCHAEFER
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Subject: ZYD Ritual Murders in Russia – Repost
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white “Whip”
wrote:

“JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS” IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, “disappeared” in the
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk. their burnt bodies have been found in
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

“I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination”, he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor
overweight among the jury.

“The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without
burial”, Mr Nazarov said.

“And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who … copies American gangstes
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs,
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin”, Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

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Subject: ZYD Rabbi Gives babies Herpes!! Repost
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On 9 Sep 2006 03:12:09 -0700, in de.soc.politik.misc “news”
wrote:

An incredible, shocking and horrific report is coming out of New York
City concerning male baby fellatio, genital mutilation and the
infection with “herpes” of three infants by a Jewish Rabbi. City of New
York health officials are investigating the death of a baby boy who was
one of three infants infected with Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 that
exists predominantly in the mouths of homosexuals.

The practice called “metzitzah b’peh” by Jews is routinely practiced
on Jewish baby boys and may explain their sexual dysfunctions later in
adult life. Many adult male Jews are “mother fixated” and exhibit a
preponderance of homosexual and feminine characteristics. They are
being “shocked” out of their masculinity as infants by the ancient and
bizarre practices of Jewish Rabbis. It is not yet known what percentage
of Jewish males go through the horror.

The case was made public after the New York Health Department filed a
complaint in the Manhattan Supreme Court against the Rabbi Yitzhok
Fischer. The rabbi had performed “metzitzah b’peh” on twin baby boys
last October. A few days later one died of herpes and the other tested
positive for the virus. The health department later found a third baby
with the Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 that the rabbi had “sucked his
penis”.

This incredible but true report is now casting doubts on the “medical”
practice of circumcision which is unnecessary, Jewish inspired, and
amounts to nothing less than “male genital mutilation.” There are now a
vast number of medical studies that prove that males grow up healthier
and perform better sexually when their penises are left intact. The
“circumcising” of Gentile baby boys is essentially “Judaizing” them for
life.

http://www.aztlan.net/metzitzah_b_peh.htm

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On 30 Oct 2006 07:01:42 -0800, in can.politics “[email protected]
wrote:

A new book in Germany is casting light on Israel’s covert program to
provoke violence among Muslims in Western Europe and engage in “false
flag” operations in order for Western governments to blame Muslim
radicals.

The book, Der Krieg im Dunkeln (War in the Dark) by Udo Ulfkotte,
formerly a correspondent for the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung,
provides details of the operations of two Israeli intelligence units —
the Metsada, which specializes in sabotage, including “false flag”
terrorist attacks and assassinations; and LAP (Lohamah Psichlogit),
which engages in psychological warfare.

Ulfkotte’s previous book on Islamist extremism, titled The War In Our
Cities, was withdrawn from the German market because of “massive legal
pressures by Islamic plaintiffs.” Ulfkotte claims that British and
German intelligence agents encountered Metsada and LAP agents in France
stirring up violence during the November 2005 riots, blamed on Islamic
extremists.

WMR has also reported that Interior Minister and presidential candidate
Nicolas Sarkozy, who is supported by pro-Israeli factions in France,
coordinated and continues to coordinate the paying of agents
provocateurs to engage in violence in the predominantly Muslim Banlieus
of Paris and other cities.

The November 2005 riots spread from Paris to Rouen, Lille, Nice, Dijon,
Strasbourg, Marseilles (where Mossad’s Brach C, also responsible for
Paris and London, maintains a large station), Bordeaux, Rennes, Pau,
Orleans, Toulouse, Lyon, Roubaix, Avignon, Saint-Dizier, Drancy,
Evreux, Nantes, Dunkirk, Montpellier, Valenciennes, Cannes, and
Tourcoing.

Ulfkotte also quotes a British MI-6 source who reported that Israel’s
goal is to portray Muslims as unpredictable threats who cannot be
integrated into Western society.

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Number=295010237#Post295010237

http://judicial-inc.biz/w.ar_in_the_dark.htm

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS –
another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:59:20 +0200, in alt.revisionism “Heinrich”
wrote:

All across Europe, from Scandinavia to Britain, from France to Switzerland,
Europeans are waking up to the scandal that is the Jew-imposed Holocaust
story and its related laws which make questioning the Jewish version of
World War II a criminal offence.

In Switzerland, the gloves are off: Swiss justice minister, Christoph
Blocher, has now openly called on the Swiss government to repeal the law
which makes historical revisionism illegal.

Minister Blocher, leader of the Swiss Peoples’ Party, is on a campaign to
change the law, according to the Neue Zuercher Zeitung (NZZ) newspaper –
even if it will impinge upon the sensitivities of minority groups, including
the country’s Jewish communities.
Blocher claims that freedom of expression is more important than protecting
the sensibilities of minority groups, NZZ wrote. Blocher just returned from
a trip to Turkey where a public discussion of the Armenian genocide is de
facto punishable by a court of law. Upon his return home, Blocher said that
he believes that Swiss laws need to be a beacon for other nations.

As far as the minister is concerned, a ban on free speech in Turkey has made
an effective public discussion of the Armenian genocide and Kurdish issues
there impossible. In effect, he claims that widening the possibilities for
freedom of speech in Switzerland might entice other countries to do the
same.
Article 261 of the Swiss criminal code punishes genocide-denial. Currently,
anybody is punishable in Switzerland if they “deny, belittle, or relativise
genocide or crimes against humanity,” NZZ wrote.

Because of this law, Swiss lawmakers who travel abroad are required to
discuss this topic with their counterparts in those countries which have
been accused, by the global community, of genocide.

Blocher’s trip to Turkey is a case in point. He believes that his having
been required to bring up the topic of the Ottoman Empire’s Armenian
genocide with his Turkish colleagues will have created unnecessary friction
during his meetings in the Eurasian nation. However, the minister’s failure
to guarantee that two Kurdish activists, held in Switzerland would be
extradited to Turkey has also put a damper on Swiss-Turkish relations, in
recent years.
The minister is apparently very much aware that a change in the law will
only entice Holocaust deniers to question the existence of gas chambers as
well. “I do not want that an opinion cannot be uttered only because someone
will be offended by it,” the minister said.
According to the minister, the definition of genocide needs to be decided by
historians. “A debate on the subject, however, will have no basis if diverse
opinions are banned,” he said.

http://www.ejpress.org/article/11252

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On 26 Oct 2006 19:42:55 -0700, in soc.culture.canada “Venceremos”
wrote:

Ministers Announce: Jew Law To Be Overturned in Switzerland
By: Bulov/LSN Staff on: 26.10.2006

Bern, Switzerland – Eight ministers of Switzerland’s white
nationalist-leaning government, including Justice Minister Christoph
Blocher, have announced that Switzerland’s Anti-Racism Act, which
makes it illegal to incite “hatred” against Jews and non-whites by
questioning immigration or the “Holocaust”, will be reviewed and
likely suppressed or thrown out by the end of the year.

The law was passed in 1994 at the insistence of world Judaism,
which hailed it as a great victory and then immediately used it for
the criminal prosecution of seven prominent political dissidents,
many of whom fled to Russia for sanctuary.

The Swiss People’s Party, the national socialist governing party of
Switzerland, also announced that the Federal Commission Against
Racism, set up by Jew Ruth Dreifuss in 1995, will be disbanded
and stripped of its powers to arrest and prosecute “racists”.

The moves demonstrate that the changes Jews have made to
Western cultures over the past twenty years c…

http://www.overthrow.com/

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On 8 Dec 2006 13:38:56 -0800, in can.politics “krOne”
wrote:

“Plus Ca Change, Plus C’est la Meme Chose”

The more things change, the more they stay the same. As the
article below shows, Jews thruout history have been allied with the
ruling aristocracy and assisted in the abuse and oppression of the
non-Jewish majority. And guess what…that is exactly what is
happening today. Super-wealthy white gentiles and organized Jews
are working together to eliminate national borders, to flood our
Western countries with poor, incompatible immigrants from the third
world, and to move much of our industry to countries where slave
labor is available – all for the purpose of enriching themselves
while reducing our living standard to that of a Chinese peasant.

If you have wondered how the Jews manage to get away with what they
do – their infernal ‘holocaust’ racketeering and forcing our
governments to blindly support their outlaw state of Israel (which
now includes fighting wars against Israel’s enemies) as well as
their endless financial scams – here is your answer. They’ve got
very powerful allies in high places. Those allies who protect and
enable them – in exchange for a quid pro quo, of course – are our
very own traitorous elites.

************************************************************

Jewish Elite Is Part Of The Governing Class
By Henry Makow, PhD

Israel Shahak’s book “Jewish History, Jewish Religion; The Weight of
3000 Years” (1994) shows how the past provides a key to understanding
the present.**

According to Shahak, the Jewish elite always had a symbiotic
relationship with the governing class. The Jews would “administer the
oppression” of the masses. In return, the governing class would force
Jews to obey their “leaders.” Sometimes a pogrom would do the trick.

The “Jewish” position was always strongest when the governing class
was most at odds with the masses, and when there was least national
feeling.

Today, specific Jews (in finance, government, education and especially
the media) play a prominent role in the world elite’s preparation for
“globalization,” which many see as a modern form of feudalism. Once
again, “anti Semitism” is exploited to mobilize Jews (and Christians)
to support oppression (e.g. “The War on Terror”), disarm opposition
and to deflect blame.

THE TRUTH IS BITTER

History is propaganda about the past. Most historians don’t tell the
truth because they would be fired. Israel Shahak, who died in 2001,
was not an historian. He was a professor of organic chemistry at
Hebrew University, who had a scientist’s respect for objective truth.
He was also a concentration camp survivor, an Israeli army veteran and
a campaigner for Arab human rights.

History repeats itself because we lie about it. Shahak believes that
Jews need to re-educate themselves about their history and religion.
Jews are “a closed society” that uses “anti Semitism” to quash
criticism, which is considered “hatred” or “self hatred.”

Shahak says Judaism is largely a primitive, materialistic,
authoritarian credo. The Talmud is devoted to Jewish supremacy and
contempt for Christ, Christianity and non-Jews in general. The Cabala
embraces many gods including Satan.

The following is a brief summary of Shahak’s argument in the chapter,
“The Weight of History.”

1. In spite of persecution, Jews throughout history formed an integral
part of the privileged classes. The poorest Jew was immeasurably
better off than the serfs. Until roughly 1880, their most important
social function “was to mediate the oppression of the peasants on
behalf of the nobility and the Crown.”

2. Classical Judaism (1000-1880 AD) developed hatred and contempt for
agriculture as an occupation and for peasants as a class. “The
supposed superiority of Jewish morality and intellect…is bound up
with a lack of sensitivity for the suffering of that major part of
humanity who were especially oppressed during the last 1000 years, the
peasants.” (53)

3. While Gentiles in general were reviled, Jewish laws made an
exception for the elite – king, nobleman,etc. The Jewish community
enjoyed autonomous status and Jewish rabbis and rich were part of the
governing class. Together they oppressed the masses.

http://rense.com/general43/elite.htm

**note: Shahak’s book is available in adobe acrobat format (pdf) for
free download at:
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/JewishHistoryJewishReligion.pdf

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:59:00 +0100, in soc.culture.europe “Baba­Bey the Turk”
wrote:

How Israeli spies in the U.S. and Canada and their helpers (sayanim) try
to silence and censor authors and researchers. Here’s an example:

http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1097/9710037.html

Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, October/November 1997, Page 37

Bookburners and Their Victims

First-Hand Accounts of Pro-Israel McCarthyism: When Israel’s Mossad
Set Out to ‘Break’ Me, It Found Its Helpers Here at Home

by Victor Ostrovsky

“We will get to him by other means, we will break him economically,”
stated the chief of the Mossad, Israel’s CIA, to a Knesset committee after
the failure of the government of Israel’s attempt to ban publication of my
first book, By Way of Deception, in the U.S. and Canada. This statement,
made on camera, was purposefully leaked to an Israeli reporter and
printed in the weekend addition of Ma’ariv, Israel’s leading daily
newspaper, with the military censor’s approval. Since that day, Israel’s
foreign intelligence agency has waged a war of attrition against me with
the enthusiastic cooperation of its cabal of North American Zionist
organizations.

For years as a Canadian-born, Israel-raised former Mossad caseworker I
was unwilling to accept the possibility of a wide conspiracy against me.
After all, my book had finally been published. What more harm could I do
to the country I had left in disgust to return to the land of my birth. Only
hitting rock bottom has finally jolted me out of this state of innocence-
and optimism that a change of luck is just around the corner. I’m now
convinced that I am the target of a broad collusion between elements of
the Israeli government and their gofers, mostly in the American Jewish
community.

Following publication of my By Way of Deception I wrote a spy novel, Lion
of Judah, using the spycraft I’d learned with the Mossad as background.
The book described a fictional Mossad operation aimed at thwarting a
secret peace process underway in the Middle East. (The book was written
and published before the real-life, year-long secret negotiations that led to
the Oslo accord came to light.)

In the book I revealed considerably more about Mossad techniques than I
had in By Way of Deception. But, despite the wide publicity garnered by
my first book due to the Israeli government’s unsuccessful effort to
suppress it, my second book was ignored.

Radio and television interviews that were scheduled by my publisher were
canceled almost as soon as they were booked. A speaker’s bureau in
Toronto, which seldom had trouble arranging speaking engagements with
student and other groups eager to have me as a speaker, found that the
engagements were cancelled before I could appear. In fact, the
cancellations occurred each time a local B’nai B’rith Anti-Defamation
League (ADL) chapter got wind of them, and they always did.

But, of course, the less I spoke, the more time I had to write. In 1995,
when my third book, The Other Side of Deception, another work of non-
fiction, was published, the efforts against me were stepped up.

So, on Oct. 21, 1995, I was surprised to be invited by Canadian
Television (CTV) producer Ron Fine to do a guest appearance on
“Canada AM,” the widely viewed Canadian version of “Good Morning
America.” Scheduled to appear on the same program, via satellite from
Israel, was Israeli journalist Yosef Lapid, the former head of Israeli
television.

An Appeal to Murder

Lapid had earned his 14 minutes of North American media fame by
appealing openly on the Israeli television show “Popolitica” for the
Mossad to seek me out in Canada and kill me for writing my books. He
had followed this with an article making the same appeal in the Tel Aviv
daily Ma’ariv headlined “By Virtue of Murder” (see accompanying
translation).

On cue, Lapid repeated, as I listened, his call for my assassination on the
Canadian television show, but this time with a twist. He said that, since
Israel’s Mossad could not kill me in Canada without causing a diplomatic
incident, “I hope that there would be a decent Jew in Canada who would
do the job for us.”

My reaction was horror mixed with relief. Now it was going to be hard for
media gatekeepers to pretend that there were not “ugly Israelis” every bit
as vicious and fanatical as the Iranian ayatollah who had called for the
assassination in Britain by a British Muslim of author Salman Rushdie.

Along with the producers of the show, a large percentage of the Canadian
public had just seen for themselves a former Israeli government official
calling upon Canadian Jews to murder me on Canadian soil for the books
I had written. But, to my astonishment, there seemed no inclination by the
Canadian media to follow up the story when it was an Israeli rather than
an Iranian inciting the murder of a published author. I had never felt more
alone and isolated in my life.

My spirits brightened when a reporter from USA Today viewed the tape of
the “Canada AM” show and was outraged. “I’m going to write a story
about this,” he declared, and proceeded to interview me for over an hour.
Then, while I was still in his office, his editor told him by telephone to
kill
the article. “It’s not a story,” the editor said. The silence surrounding me
intensified.

It was a year later that Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was
assassinated by a right-wing zealot who got his legitimization for murder
>from an extremist rabbi and his marching orders from the likes of Lapid. If
by Lapid’s rules I should be killed according to his category “D” (see
accompanying article), in the eyes of Yigal Amir, Rabin’s assassin, so
should Rabin. I have no doubt in my mind that all those like Lapid who
make their own rules as to who may live and who must die are partners in
Rabin’s murder.

A radio host named Tim Kern from a station in Denver, Colorado, called
me up for an interview. Several days later he sent a file on me he had
received from the “Mountain state regional office of the Anti-Defamation
League of B’nai B’rith.” The ADL communication suggested that the
station drop the interview, claiming that I am an unreliable subject. This
sequence was repeated over and over at radio and television stations in
the United States and Canada. Ironically, supposedly separate Jewish
organizations around the United States kept coming up with the same
wording in their efforts to shut me up.

The same people who presumably would praise someone from the CIA or
the U.S. armed forces who exposed serious wrongdoing in those
institutions were now hard at work to smother my criticisms of an
intelligence agency for a foreign country that, to put it as charitably as
possible, does not have America’s best interests at heart. The Americans
who call me a traitor to Israel for exposing the Mossad’s efforts to kill the
peace process hail as a hero Jonathan Pollard, a traitor to the U.S. who
spied on the American government for Israel.

In an attempt to break the vicious cycle, I decided to sue in a Canadian
court Yosef Lapid for inciting my murder and “Canada AM” for airing his
incitement to the public. I assumed that bringing the issue to public
attention would expose the attempts of organizations in both the U.S. and
Canada that in fact are agents of Israel to suppress the truth through
intimidation and, if necessary, economic or physical terrorism.

After accepting a hefty retainer and completing the preparations for trial,
my lawyer, Paul B. Kane of Perley-Robertson, Panet, Hill and McDougall
in Ottawa, Canada, informed me that he could not continue with the case.
His explanation was that the safety of his staff would clearly be
jeopardized if he proceeded.

Then HarperCollins, my publisher, informed me it was keeping the last
portion of my advance, some $46,000, against advertising. I pointed out
that since this was something I had never agreed to, they had no right to
do it. “Sue us,” was their response.

At the same time, my daughter, a television producer, was denied a job
she had been offered in a Vancouver television station after its Toronto
head office learned of her relationship to me.

Then my Canadian publisher, Stoddart, informed me it had decided not to
publish my newest spy novel, Dominion of Treason, and also that it was
holding back all monies coming to me from By Way of Deception and Lion
of Judah.

Meanwhile I had suggested to my agent in Toronto a new (fifth) book on
the American militia movement. I proposed to interview supporters of the
movement to ascertain their motivations, and then define the movement
in terms of its members rather than simply labeling them as the enemy
and shutting the door on them. I believe the growth of misunderstanding
and mistrust within a nation, and particularly between regions as is the
case between America’s Eastern seaboard on the one hand and its
Midwest and Far West on the other, is courting disaster.

My agent was enthusiastic about the proposed project. We called it We
the People. For several months he told me how this proposed book was
being received in literary circles of New York. Then he dropped out of
sight, and I have not been able to make contact with him to this day. I
know he is in his office and doing business, but he will not return my calls.

In 1996, a new, New York-based agent struck a light at the end of a very
long, dark tunnel. Regnery Inc., a Washington-based publisher, signed a
contract with me for a tongue-in-cheek guide to espionage called The Spy
Game. They had some suggestions, however, for making the book more
serious on the grounds that readers don’t regard spying as a laughing
matter.

As I was in the final stages of the first draft, however, my house burned to
the ground. The fire marshal’s report declared it arson. No one was hurt,
since we had moved out several weeks earlier and I was using only one
room in the house for writing. Luckily, aside from the house itself, very
little was lost-only my computer and several boxes of documents.

As I was sifting through the ashes of what used to be my bedroom,
however, I realized things were starting to get out of hand. By then, under
the Likud government of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, both the
Israeli ambassador to the U.S. and the Israeli ambassador to Canada
were former Mossad officers. I couldn’t identify the perpetrators of the fire,
or blame it on one group or another, but it was clear to me that those who
had vowed to break me “economically” were becoming more
confrontational and taking greater risks.

After several days of soul-searching I realized I could no longer allow my
wife, who had stood by me through thick and thin, to remain in the line of
fire. This was my battle, my choice. Knowing full well she would not
abandon me, as almost everyone else had, I told her I needed to be
alone, to sort out things for myself.

Our separation lasted several weeks. But we both realized we couldn’t
remain apart.

So I wasted no more time and re-wrote The Spy Game, having kept my
notes on Regnery’s suggested revisions with me. The work on the book
was moving along well, and most of the editing had already been
completed. The publisher, through his project editor, asked that I add a
chapter on espionage and the Internet and also bring in some
biographical material on myself. I complied and he expressed his
satisfaction in a letter to me.

On July 9 of this year the Regnery publicity department faxed me a copy
of their catalog page depicting my book, slated to be released in October.
One day later, on July 10, 1997, I received a letter from Regnery
informing me that the company had decided not to publish my book. I felt
as though I had been hit by a freight train.

It suddenly occurred to me, for the first time, that the forces of racism,
bigotry and apartheid may win, even here in North America. In calling out,
finally, for help, I suddenly fear that I may only be shouting into the wind.

To all who believe that “it can’t happen here,” I say beware.

It is immensely satisfying to take a stand and speak out against coercion
and tyranny. But eventually there may be a price to pay.

And when that day comes, and the bill is handed out, you may find that
although your friends cherish you, they may choose to do it from a
distance. I wonder now if the thousands who have called and written still
think of me as a prophet and a hero, or only as a fool?

Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad caseworker in Israel, is author of By
Way of Deception and The Other Side of Deception about his personal
observations within Israel’s external security service. Both books are
listed in the AET Book Club Catalog.

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On 13 Sep 2006 10:00:13 -0700, in can.politics “dr veritas”
wrote:

Nobel laureate Solzhenitsyn verifies what others have
written in the past – Jews were the sine qua non of
the Bolshevik revolution and the 70 year nightmare
of terror that followed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The End Of Legends
200 Years Together: Jews In The Soviet Union

9/11/2006

Book Review
The End of the Legends

By Wolfgang Strauss

Alexander Solschenitsyn, “200 Jahre zusammen.” Die russisch-jüdische
Geschichte 1795-1916 (200 Years Together. The Russian-Jewish History
1795- 1916), Herbig, Munich 2002, 560 pp., _34.90; “Zweihundert Jahre
zusammen,” Die Juden in der Sowjetunion (200 Years Together. The Jews
in the Soviet Union), ibidem, 2003, 608 pp., _39.90.

It may be said without hesitation that Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s 200
Years Together – The Jews in the Soviet Union is one of the most
important books on the Russian Revolution and the early Bolshevik
period ever to appear. After publication of this work with its many
revelations about the role of the Jews during the Leninist period, the
history of the Bolshevik October putsch will have to be rewritten, if
not completely, then with substantial additions.

The book title might have been even more appropriately called “The End
of the Legends.” For example, the legend that there ever existed an
independent “Russian” Social Democracy Party is questioned. Founded in
Minsk in 1898, the Russian Social Democratic Workers Party (RSDWP)
derived, with respect to personnel and organization, from the
Allgemeine jüdische Arbeiterbund in Lithuania, Poland, and Russia. It
might be said that the Jewish Arbeiterbund midwife service officiated
at the birth of the Russian Social Democracy Party. Legends without
number are examined.

Solzhenitsyn emphasizes, “Many more Jewish voices than Russian are
heard in this book”. Jewish voices, not Russian, speak of Jewish
dominance in the anti- monarchial movements in the period before the
war. In an article entitled “The Jewish Revolution” in the 10 December
1919 issue of the Neue Jüdischen Monatsheften, published in Berlin,
was the sentence:

“Regardless of how extremely the anti-Semites exaggerate it, and how
so nervously the Jewish bourgeoisie deny it, the large Jewish
contingent in today’s revolutionary movement stands fast.”

The writer, whom the publicist Sonia Margolina calls a “patriarch” in
the tradition of Dostoyevsky, the last Russian prophet, rejects
decisively, almost passionately, all theses of collective guilt. The
chronicler of the Gulag holds that neither the Russians nor the Jews
can be held separately responsible for the emergence of the reign of
terror. He characterizes the relationship between Russian and Jews as
a “burning wedge.” In his book he tries to see the wedge from both
sides. In so doing, the legends dissolve.

Perhaps the most persistent legend, now dissolved, used to go like
this: Long before the last Tsar left the throne, the old Russian
Empire was in decline, the revolution was coming, the apocalypses of
February and October 1917 could not have been prevented. They were
determined as if by a world court. Only a legend, Solzhenitsyn says,
and this chapter in his book, a noir- thriller, illuminates 18
September 1911 – a day that heralded the approach of the Great Terror
in that it dimmed the last opportunity to prevent it.

They had tried to assassinate Petr Stolypin eight times. Various
terrorist groups had attempted to murder Stolypin and his family, but
they had never succeeded in killing the man who had set governmental
direction in the decade before the war nor in tarnishing his
reputation and charisma. The “Russian Bismarck,” as he was called,
had, as an unassuming Christian and self- confident first servant of
the Russian Empire, led his country into the modern age by introducing
agrarian reforms and representative self-government that made
individual enterprising farmers out of the backward villagers. The
eighth attempt, however, on 18 September 1911 in the Kiev Opera,
succeeded in ending the life of the great reformer who had served his
country as minister president and minister of the internal affairs.
Ninety years later Solzhenitsyn was to write:

“The first Russian premier minister, who had honorably set the task of
establishing equal rights for Jews and had even opposed the Tsar in
attempting to realize it, was killed at the hands of a Jew. Was it an
irony of history?” (p. 431)

The assassin was Mordko Hershovich Bogrov, a university student,
grandson of a liquor concessionaire and son of a millionaire. When he
fired his Browning at Stolypin, Bogrov was 23 years old. Those shots
brought the process of Russian reformation, including Stolypin’s
measures to lift anti-Jewish restrictions, to a fateful end by their
own hands. Among the grave consequences of 18 September was a radical
change in world politics. Stolypin had opposed Russian foreign policy
that had been hostile to Germany and friendly with France and Britain.
Solzhenitsyn asserts that under Stolypin Russia would have never
entered World War I. The ultimate beneficial consequence for the
Russian people would have been that they would have been spared the
February revolution, which was triggered by the defeats in the First
World War.

continued
http://www.vho.org/tr/2004/3/Strauss342-351.html

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On 24 Sep 2006 15:25:56 -0000, in soc.culture.usa FrankFarber wrote:

To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn–jlRVAI&mode=related&search=

From: tyler
Newsgroups: bc.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
Message-ID:

Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!

Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.

1) US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf

2) Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

3) Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

4) Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.

Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle April 2001

5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml

6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay’s
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.

Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don’t Americans and Canadians?

The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
>from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.

It’s time we found out the truth! It’s hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!

Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler

Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest…….

From: tyler
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Message-ID:
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic or
more effectiveI Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn’t need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn’t even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don’t need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA 10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn’t have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws? How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist? Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel’s nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5 on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification…

Wow, god is such good business…

tyler

On 2 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0800,
in edm.general
[email protected] (His Divine Shadow) used both functioning neurons to
say:

>[email protected] (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:
>> ADL Special Edition, January 1991
>> A periodic update from the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith
>> Civil Rights Division
>>
>> “The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in
>> America.”
>>
>> The bizarre claim by right wing extremists that kosher certification
>> markings on food labels (“U,” “K,” etc.) cost consumers extra money
>> and represent, in effect, a “kosher tax” to make rabbis rich, is a
>> striking example of the propaganda used by anti-Semites to trick the
>> uninformed into accepting conspiracy charges and stereotypes about
>> Jews.
>
>
>Thanks for the info, Kenneth.

Ken’s information is all well and good but it still doesn’t address all
of the issues raised in the appended post, which probably was the
reason why he was moved to comment on the subject in the first place.

All and all, I don’t suppose it is any worse than anything perpetuated
by the tradition of ‘Royal Warrants’ (http://www.royalwarrant.org/)
but I personally find the traditional rant and spin attached to everything
Ken puts out as some neo-nazi neo-conservative conspirarcy to be
getting a bit thin, and tiresome. A simple explaination of fact would
have sufficed.

It’s a continual appeal to developing a mindset that says if you aren’t
a friend then you are any enemy. It’s bullshit. I dare say there are
probably proportionately just as many Jews that are political right
wing extremeists as any other religion, including Baptists.

No one has to be a neo-nazi to object to any spcial concession to a
religious organization thing that increases the cost all consumers must
bear, even if it adds only $0.0005 to the cost of an individual item.

A few years back many people got their undies in a twist when it
was revealed that Rev. Sun Myung Moon was involved in many
well known companies, and boycotted it’s products.

AFAIC it doesn’t matter if a religion is termed a cult, there is no
reason to attribute arcane motivations to anything that helps people
to appreciate the complexity of the world we live in.

——————————————————————————-

——————

From: tyler
Newsgroups: winnipeg.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:14:25 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for kosher
foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase that has the
abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the council of orthodox
rabbis, a religious organization. As a consumer you should be aware
than some products that you are purchasing cost more because of this
ceritification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according to
Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these yet you
will find COR 69 on SIfto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on Heinz
ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd items as
Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result of
rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic
or more effectiveI Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount of iodine in
the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I thought this was
done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and inspect every salt mine
and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn’t need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn’t even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don’t need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA 10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn’t have to
pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as to
comply with Jewish religious laws? How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist? Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is in
any detectable way different following kosher certification from what
it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel’s nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words, do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5 on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification…

Wow, god is such good business…

tyler

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Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

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then visit www.freedomsite.org

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http://www.jewwatch.com

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IHR – www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

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PM Howard of Australia is now finally considering barring AIDS-infected fags
>from entering Australia, whether as immigrants, or claiming to be refugees.

This sensible policy will finally bar the entry of the flood of foul
disease-spreaders into Australia.

Now, if only other countries would follow this sensible policy, and just have
the AIDS-spreaders deported, in shackles, back to their home countries.

Then, these would not be a drain on the health resources of countries,
such as Australia, and Canada, to name 2.

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:10:29 +1000, in alt.revisionism “Benja’min”
wrote:

The Communist secret police, which underwent many name
changes, including Cheka, OGPU, GPU, NKVD, NKGB, MGB,
and KGB, was the most feared police agency in the history of
the world.
They imprisoned, tortured, or murdered more than 30 million
Russians and Eastern Europeans.

Even the more conservative Soviet historians of the 1960s were
placing the number of murdered at about 20 to 40 million – figures
that do not include the millions more who were dispossessed,
imprisoned, exiled, tortured, and displaced.

Nobel Prizewinner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in his opus, The Gulag
Archipelago, using the research of a Soviet statistician who had
access to secret government files, I. A. Kurganov, estimated that
between 1918 and 1959, at least 66 million died at the hands of
the Communistrulers of Russia.

Although that number may be far too high, in Gulag Archipelago II,
Solzhenitsyn affirms that Jews created and administered the
organized Soviet concentration camp system in which tens
of millions of Christians died.

Pictured on page 79 of the Gulag Archipelago II are the leading
administrators of the greatest killing machine in the history of the world.

They are Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman,
Genrikh Yagoda, and Naftaly Frenkel. All six are Jews.

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Subject: Re: Jew/ZYD taxes on grocery items – Repost
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:07:34 -0600, Frank Arthur wrote:
>Jew/ZYD taxes on grocery items – Repost
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:54:46 -0600
>Message-ID:

Frank Arthur is to be commended for posting this truthful expose
of the KOSHER TAX.

>On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:17:56 GMT, in can.politics LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>On 24 Jul 2005 14:33:54 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>>Jewish taxation without Gentile representation

>>”A hypothesis(?) that readily springs to mind from the above
>>revelations is that what we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on
>>food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food
>>items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and
>>from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish
>>tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there
>>metastacized to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on
>>food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter
>>medications. And the question that the above revelations urgently
>>presses upon consciousness is how much this Jewish tax – if it may be
>>so described – costs the average Canadian household each year. Ten
>>dollars? A hundred dollars? A thousand dollars? What? Why don’t we
>>know? Why is there no way to find out? Why isn’t this a matter of
>>public record?”

>>Many graphics of grocery items on this page, click below:

>>http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html

>>Faster download, less graphics on (this) prior page:

>>http://www.ukar.org/ronen01.html

>Subject: KOSHER TAX Ripoff-HEINZ/Libby Dumps,Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>MORE!

>On 27 Sep 2004 15:50:36 -0000, ErnstZundel wrote:
>
>Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks….
>Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>qualified to do…

>Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!

>>From: [email protected]
>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>”veranda” wrote in message
>>news:
>>> > > veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since it
>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>
>>> > > The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>
>>> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>> > What duplication? It is a symbol on the container and the cost would
>>> > not change in any way. This “paranoia” is silly.
>
>>veranda : what ‘paranoia’ ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>you knew that !
>>Kosher is Israel’s food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>we got our own ! 🙂
>
>>Well, to set the record straight. The Rabbinate council that approves
>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>doesn’t really care. It is not an item by item thing. With the
>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>day.)
>
>>What would it save you–less than $10 a year.
>
>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Councils, so don’t think that it
>>is just Canada with their own. Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>have demanded more money?
>
>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>couldn’t make any money either.
>
>
>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin wrote:
>
>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>
>>The “Kosher Nostra Scam” on the American Consumer
>>by
>>Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>La Voz de Aztlan
>
>>Los Angeles, Alta California – 4/27/2002 – (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>receives quite a few “news tips” per week from our many subscribers
>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>attention.
>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>of the small encircled letter “U” or letter “K” that can be found
>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>certainly was “news” to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>
>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>container, the Trader Joe’s tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>
>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>that the mark meant that the coffee was ” certified kosher”.
>
>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be “kosher” and
>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were “kosher”
>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>products.
>
>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>receive protection.
>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>other similar markings.
>
>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>sophisticated “Kosher Nostra Scams.” It turns out that the
>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>in New York City.
>
>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>
>>The “Kosher Nostra” protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>certified as kosher, or “fit for a Jew to eat”, they will face a
>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>
>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>”Kosher Nostra ” certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>
>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>up to “inspect” the company’s operations.
>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>lucrative salaries.
>
>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>it now.
>
>>Only public awareness concerning the “Kosher Nostra Scam” will
>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>certainly do not need to pay extra for “kosher water”, “kosher coffee”
>>or “kosher plastic sandwich bags”.
>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>other non-Jewish people?
>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>
>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>
>>>>Further to the article below, today’s Southam newspapers
>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>all Heinz products.
>
>>>>Heinz declared this was done ” to keep costs down” according
>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>
>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>including those sold under the Libby’s label.
>
>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>
>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>
>
>>>>From: tyler
>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>consumers
>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>
>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>
>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>proof is easily found.
>
>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>
>
>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>
>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>
>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>
>>>>The website explains:
>
>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>
>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>
>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>
>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>>>>The cost is minimal to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>that!
>
>>>>…and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>annual sales of the product.
>
>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>friends and neighbours if they know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>Jewish, they won’t have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>because something is certified.
>
>>>>tyler
>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>
>As to what those markings mean:
>
>The letter “K” simply means “Kosher.” Kosher, in Hebrew, means fit or proper,
>and is generally used to describe foods that are prepared in accordance with
>special Jewish dietary laws. These laws are stringent and almost
>incomprehensible to those not versed in them.
>
>The small “u” in a circle or (“OU”) stands for the Union of Orthodox Jewish
>Congregations and shows that the food underwent rabbinical supervision in its
>preparation. (An “OUD” marking shows that the package contains dairy products,
>while an “OUM” indicates the presence of meat.)
>
>”Parve” (also “pareve”) is Yiddish for “neutral.” The presence of this word on
>packaging signifies that the contents of the package contain neither milk nor
>meat and thus can be combined with other ingredients in recipes. (Jewish
>dietary law forbids the mixing of meat and dairy, thus a packaged food that
>contained cheese could not be combined with, say, hamburger.)
>
>This variety of markings used on packaged foods alert consumers that items
>contained therein either meet the strict dietary constraints imposed by
>Judaism
>on its followers or that the contents of the package can be mixed with other
>foods or can touch them. Not all Jews keep kosher, nor even among those who do
>are the strictures always adhered to rigorously, but those determined upon
>being truly pious are aided in this endeavor by the presence of those
>markings.
>The devout go so far as to maintain two separate sets of utensils, cookware,
>and cutting surfaces so that meat and dairy never encounter one another in
>their kitchens. It is for their benefit that otherwise puzzling kosher
>certifications on non-foodstuff items are there (e.g., certifications are
>placed upon dishwashing liquid because dishes used for dairy cannot be washed
>using a soap made from animal fats).
>
>Less observant Jews do not bother themselves overly much about the kosherness
>of everyday items; they avoid the out-and-out no-nos such as pork and
>shellfish
>but don’t lose much sleep over the animal fat content of their washing-up
>liquid, nor do they fret that cold cuts might now be resting upon a plate that
>had months earlier been used to serve cheese. The proponents of the “Jewish
>Secret Tax” slander often assert that a sub rosa Jewish cabal forces large
>companies to comply via the threat of a nationwide boycott, backed by the
>underlying presumption that all Jews can be marshalled into turning their
>backs
>on products that fail to display kosher certification marks. That is not the
>case ? Jews buy and use non-kosher items too, so although lack of kosher
>certification keeps the ultra-conservative crowd from buying certain products,
>it doesn’t prevent the less stringent from making such purchases, nor would a
>”don’t buy that because it’s not kosher” directive have much effect even if
>there were a secret Jewish cabal to issue it.
>
>Those seeking kosher certification for their products have to adhere to kosher
>practices through the manufacturing process, use only kosher ingredients, and
>have their facilities regularly vetted by qualified inspectors. Kosher
>certification companies do charge for this service, which is the backbone of
>the “secret tax” claim ? it costs money to obtain and maintain kosher
>certification, thus this is an extra expense a manufacturer must bear if he’s
>determined upon having that certification. Where the rumor and reality part
>ways, however, is where the money goes. Fees paid to kosher certification
>companies go to keeping those businesses afloat with the profits siphoned off
>by those companies’ owners; they do not flow off into some special Jewish fund
>used to advance Zionist causes. These are businesses, not charities, and those
>who run them do so with every expectation of making a living, in the same
>manner that someone who owns a hardware store does so with the notion of
>making
>enough from the endeavor to support himself and his family.
>
>Does certification add to the price of a product? Certainly, but the amount is
>miniscule, especially compared to the advertising, packaging, shipping,
>research, testing, admin and finance-related costs, and a myriad of other
>components that contribute to the process of bringing a product to market or
>making it better appeal to consumers. One might as well rail against the costs
>associated with selecting the ink colors and style of lettering used on a
>package ? it’s all legitimate business expense, even though no one ever rails
>against the “Secret Red Ink Conspiracy” or rants about the “Helvetica Font
>Tax.”
>
>Barbara “heading for Helvetica in a handbasket” Mikkelson
>
>Additional information:
>
> A Kosher Primer
> (Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America)
>
>Last updated: 24 May 2002
>
>The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm
>
>
>Harry Mazal wrote:
>
>> Heinz/Libby held a press conference, to tell the world the truth.
>> Canadian Jewish News published articles detailing the situation, and
>> complaining about the fact that some of the ZHID groups would not be getting
>> the many millions of dollars from Heinz.
>
>> Which is more reliable, Heinz and the newspaper, or you, you snivelling rat?
>
>> On 1 Sep 2005 14:53:43 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> >GeorgeF wrote:
>> >> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> >> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> >> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>
>> >> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>> >> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>> >> part-time job!!
>
>> >> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>> >> extortion tax!!
>
>> >> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>> >> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>> >> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>> >> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks….
>> >> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>> >> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>> >> qualified to do…
>
>> >> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>> >> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>> >> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by:
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>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
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>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>Henry
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: “George” ,
>and [email protected]
>
>Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 00:09:08 +0400, IronFist wrote:

>KEEP YOUR FUCKING OFF-TOPIC BULSHIT OUT OF NEW ZEALAND GROUPS

Obviously from some feces-infected AIDS spreader, who is still functionally
illiterate!!

Definitely NOT an intelligent Kiwi.

>In article , Frank
>Arthur wrote:

>> ZYD SPY COVERUP!
>> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:55:08 -0600
>> Organization: http://www.jewwatch.com
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> On 4 Dec 2006 16:29:48 -0800, in soc.culture.russian “Venceremos”
>> wrote:

>> They lie, and they lie and they lie! This creep was spying for Israel.
>> He is an Israeli. In order to cover the Israeli spying they pawn it on
>> on Russia and Austria. Fucking Jews!

>> NORFOLK – Navy Petty Officer 3rd Class Ariel J. Weinmann walked up to
>> an embassy in Vienna, Austria, rang the bell and offered U.S. secrets
>> to the person who met him in the foyer, he admitted in a military court
>> today.

>> In pleading guilty to espionage, desertion and related charges, the
>> 22-year-old submariner outlined his efforts to gain residency in
>> another country after becoming disillusioned with the Navy. The hearing
>> will continue at Norfolk Naval Station with the sentencing phase.
>> Background: Recording details his arrest at airport
>> See Thing Your Way.

>> After fleeing the Navy in summer 2005, Weinmann first thought he would
>> try to get asylum in Austria by exchanging classified biographical
>> information and weapons systems manuals. After dropping that plan, he
>> approached the embassy and offered a three-ring binder of secret
>> military data, he told the court.

>> The embassy was identified in court only as belonging to “Country
>> X.” A Pentagon source who spoke on condition of anonymity confirmed
>> that the country was Russia.

>> “This was just a cold approach on your part? You just rang the
>> bell?” asked the military judge, Capt. Daniel O’Toole.

>> “Yes, sir,” Weinmann answered.

>> The day-long proceeding began with the fire control technician
>> explaining why he deserted his post aboard the submarine USS
>> Albuquerque in New London, Conn., on July 1, 2005.

>> “My expectations in the Navy were not met,” he told the judge. “I
>> had a very idolized view – basically the World War II Navy.”

>> Weinmann purchased a one-way ticket to an undisclosed country and left
>> from Providence, R.I., that day. He ended up in Austria five days
>> later, carrying a Navy laptop computer containing four classified
>> training manuals and 29 other secret documents.

>> “Did you ever intend to come back to America?” O’Toole asked
>> Weinmann.

>> “I did not, sir,” he answered.

>> He rented an apartment in Vienna with a German citizen, who was not
>> fully identified, and was planning to trade the classified information,
>> including the biographies of unidentified military employees, for
>> expedited asylum, he admitted.

>> The information, which Weinmann downloaded from the military’s Secret
>> Internet Protocol Network before leaving the sub, contained nicknames
>> and childhood pets which “could tip people off that they were in
>> contact with American intelligence,” he said.

>> “Could it jeopardize people’s lives?” the judge asked.

>> “Yes, it could,” Weinmann answered.

>> But the German citizen “laughed at me” after seeing the information
>> in August 2005, he said.

>> “That’s why I didn’t do anything further,” Weinmann said.

>> That October, he buzzed the foreign embassy in Vienna and met with “a
>> member of the state department of Country X,” Weinmann said. In a
>> reception room, Weinmann handed over the binder full of secrets. He did
>> not say what, if anything, he received in return.

>> When asked the purpose, Weinmann said, “I had reason to believe it
>> would aid Country X.”

>> He said he had previously made friends with people from “Country X”
>> and decided that was where he wanted to live.

>> He described U.S. relations with that country as “cordial” but with
>> a “degree of competition.”

>> “Why would you think this country would take advantage of this
>> information?” the judge asked.

>> “At least, on the sidelines, it would give them an advantage,”
>> Weinmann said. “It pertained to a weapons system.”

>> By March, having apparently not received any offers from the foreign
>> government, Weinmann decided to leave Austria. He pulled the hard drive
>> from his laptop and smashed it with a large rubber mallet, he said.

>> He left most of his belongings in his Vienna apartment and flew to
>> Mexico City carrying only a backpack. He was arrested that same month
>> at a Dallas airport when immigration and customs officials discovered
>> that his name on the manifest matched a warrant from the Navy. He was
>> carrying $4,000 in crisp $100 bills, three CD-ROMs and other computer
>> equipment.

>> As part of the plea bargain, the government has agreed to drop charges
>> that Weinmann passed classified information to a foreign agent in
>> Mexico before he left and also to another foreign agent in Bahrain in
>> March 2005.

>> Weinmann faces a maximum penalty of life in prison, but prosecutors and
>> defense attorneys said they have worked out a specific sentence that is
>> expected to be made public at the sentencing phase, perhaps as early as
>> today. He remains in the Navy brig.

>> Weinmann’s parents, from Salem, Ore., were in the courtroom today but
>> declined to comment.

>> Reach Tim McGlone at (757) 446-2343 or [email protected]

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To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn–jlRVAI&mode=related&search=

This interesting video gives lots of details about the KOSHER TAX, and all the
emblems used by the ZYDS on products showing they got paid the KOSHER TAX.

By the way, Heinz/Libby stopped paying the KOSHER TAX on many products,
according to articles published in Canadian Jew News!!

On 24 Jul 2005 14:33:54 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>Jewish taxation without Gentile representation

>”A hypothesis(?) that readily springs to mind from the above
>revelations is that what we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on
>food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food
>items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and
>from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish
>tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there
>metastacized to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on
>food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter
>medications. And the question that the above revelations urgently
>presses upon consciousness is how much this Jewish tax – if it may be
>so described – costs the average Canadian household each year. Ten
>dollars? A hundred dollars? A thousand dollars? What? Why don’t we
>know? Why is there no way to find out? Why isn’t this a matter of
>public record?”

>Many graphics of grocery items on this page, click below:

>http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html

>Faster download, less graphics on (this) prior page:

>http://www.ukar.org/ronen01.html

Subject: KOSHER TAX Ripoff-HEINZ/Libby Dumps,Too Expensive to Consumers!!
MORE!

On 27 Sep 2004 15:50:36 -0000, ErnstZundel wrote:

Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks….
Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
qualified to do…

Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!

>From: [email protected]
>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>”veranda” wrote in message
>news:
>> > > veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since it
>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .

>> > > The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost

>> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>> > What duplication? It is a symbol on the container and the cost would
>> > not change in any way. This “paranoia” is silly.

>veranda : what ‘paranoia’ ?? we are talking about saving money .
>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>you knew that !
>Kosher is Israel’s food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>we got our own ! 🙂

>Well, to set the record straight. The Rabbinate council that approves
>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>doesn’t really care. It is not an item by item thing. With the
>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>day.)

>What would it save you–less than $10 a year.

>All countries have their own Rabbinate Councils, so don’t think that it
>is just Canada with their own. Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>have demanded more money?

>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>couldn’t make any money either.

>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin wrote:

>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!

>The “Kosher Nostra Scam” on the American Consumer
>by
>Ernesto Cienfuegos
>La Voz de Aztlan

>Los Angeles, Alta California – 4/27/2002 – (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>receives quite a few “news tips” per week from our many subscribers
>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>attention.
>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>of the small encircled letter “U” or letter “K” that can be found
>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>do some research into the subject. What we found
>certainly was “news” to us and it both shocked and angered us.

>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>container, the Trader Joe’s tea box and even the Glads plastic
>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.

>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>that the mark meant that the coffee was ” certified kosher”.

>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be “kosher” and
>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were “kosher”
>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>products.

>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>receive protection.
>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>other similar markings.

>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>sophisticated “Kosher Nostra Scams.” It turns out that the
>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>in New York City.

>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.

>The “Kosher Nostra” protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>certified as kosher, or “fit for a Jew to eat”, they will face a
>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.

>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>”Kosher Nostra ” certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.

>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>up to “inspect” the company’s operations.
>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>lucrative salaries.

>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>it now.

>Only public awareness concerning the “Kosher Nostra Scam” will
>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>certainly do not need to pay extra for “kosher water”, “kosher coffee”
>or “kosher plastic sandwich bags”.
>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>other non-Jewish people?
>* * * * * * * * * * * *

>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!

>>>Further to the article below, today’s Southam newspapers
>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>all Heinz products.

>>>Heinz declared this was done ” to keep costs down” according
>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.

>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>including those sold under the Libby’s label.

>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>Orthodox Rabbis).

>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!

>>>From: tyler
>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>consumers
>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT

>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers

>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>proof is easily found.

>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.

>>>The following has been snipped from:

>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm

>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.

>>>The website explains:

>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>close investigation and supervision.

>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.

>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.

>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.

>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>>The cost is minimal to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>that!

>>>…and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>annual sales of the product.

>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>friends and neighbours if they know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>Jewish, they won’t have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>because something is certified.

>>>tyler
>>>the consumer watchdog!!!

As to what those markings mean:

The letter “K” simply means “Kosher.” Kosher, in Hebrew, means fit or proper,
and is generally used to describe foods that are prepared in accordance with
special Jewish dietary laws. These laws are stringent and almost
incomprehensible to those not versed in them.

The small “u” in a circle or (“OU”) stands for the Union of Orthodox Jewish
Congregations and shows that the food underwent rabbinical supervision in its
preparation. (An “OUD” marking shows that the package contains dairy products,
while an “OUM” indicates the presence of meat.)

“Parve” (also “pareve”) is Yiddish for “neutral.” The presence of this word on
packaging signifies that the contents of the package contain neither milk nor
meat and thus can be combined with other ingredients in recipes. (Jewish
dietary law forbids the mixing of meat and dairy, thus a packaged food that
contained cheese could not be combined with, say, hamburger.)

This variety of markings used on packaged foods alert consumers that items
contained therein either meet the strict dietary constraints imposed by
Judaism
on its followers or that the contents of the package can be mixed with other
foods or can touch them. Not all Jews keep kosher, nor even among those who do
are the strictures always adhered to rigorously, but those determined upon
being truly pious are aided in this endeavor by the presence of those
markings.
The devout go so far as to maintain two separate sets of utensils, cookware,
and cutting surfaces so that meat and dairy never encounter one another in
their kitchens. It is for their benefit that otherwise puzzling kosher
certifications on non-foodstuff items are there (e.g., certifications are
placed upon dishwashing liquid because dishes used for dairy cannot be washed
using a soap made from animal fats).

Less observant Jews do not bother themselves overly much about the kosherness
of everyday items; they avoid the out-and-out no-nos such as pork and
shellfish
but don’t lose much sleep over the animal fat content of their washing-up
liquid, nor do they fret that cold cuts might now be resting upon a plate that
had months earlier been used to serve cheese. The proponents of the “Jewish
Secret Tax” slander often assert that a sub rosa Jewish cabal forces large
companies to comply via the threat of a nationwide boycott, backed by the
underlying presumption that all Jews can be marshalled into turning their
backs
on products that fail to display kosher certification marks. That is not the
case ? Jews buy and use non-kosher items too, so although lack of kosher
certification keeps the ultra-conservative crowd from buying certain products,
it doesn’t prevent the less stringent from making such purchases, nor would a
“don’t buy that because it’s not kosher” directive have much effect even if
there were a secret Jewish cabal to issue it.

Those seeking kosher certification for their products have to adhere to kosher
practices through the manufacturing process, use only kosher ingredients, and
have their facilities regularly vetted by qualified inspectors. Kosher
certification companies do charge for this service, which is the backbone of
the “secret tax” claim ? it costs money to obtain and maintain kosher
certification, thus this is an extra expense a manufacturer must bear if he’s
determined upon having that certification. Where the rumor and reality part
ways, however, is where the money goes. Fees paid to kosher certification
companies go to keeping those businesses afloat with the profits siphoned off
by those companies’ owners; they do not flow off into some special Jewish fund
used to advance Zionist causes. These are businesses, not charities, and those
who run them do so with every expectation of making a living, in the same
manner that someone who owns a hardware store does so with the notion of
making
enough from the endeavor to support himself and his family.

Does certification add to the price of a product? Certainly, but the amount is
miniscule, especially compared to the advertising, packaging, shipping,
research, testing, admin and finance-related costs, and a myriad of other
components that contribute to the process of bringing a product to market or
making it better appeal to consumers. One might as well rail against the costs
associated with selecting the ink colors and style of lettering used on a
package ? it’s all legitimate business expense, even though no one ever rails
against the “Secret Red Ink Conspiracy” or rants about the “Helvetica Font
Tax.”

Barbara “heading for Helvetica in a handbasket” Mikkelson

Additional information:

A Kosher Primer
(Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America)

Last updated: 24 May 2002

The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm

Harry Mazal wrote:

> Heinz/Libby held a press conference, to tell the world the truth.
> Canadian Jewish News published articles detailing the situation, and
> complaining about the fact that some of the ZHID groups would not be getting
> the many millions of dollars from Heinz.

> Which is more reliable, Heinz and the newspaper, or you, you snivelling rat?

> On 1 Sep 2005 14:53:43 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> >GeorgeF wrote:
> >> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
> >> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
> >> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!

> >> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
> >> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
> >> part-time job!!

> >> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
> >> extortion tax!!

> >> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
> >> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
> >> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
> >> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks….
> >> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
> >> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
> >> qualified to do…

> >> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
> >> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
> >> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: “George” ,
or to [email protected], or [email protected]
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Vergiss niemals! Bewaehrt Euch vor ZYDS!Niemals wieder!

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE MORDUJE W RUSSIA – Wahrheit
Data: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:29:40 -0600
Wiadomoœæ – ID: < [email protected] >

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel “Whip”
< [email protected] > napisa³:

“¿YDOWSKI RYTUA³ MORDUJE” W RUSSIA
PIÊÆ DZIECI ZNALAZ³O CA³KOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SP³YNʳA OD CIA³!
TRUPY zosta³y USTAWIONE w p³omieniach, BY SCHOWAÆ KREW SP³YWAJ¹C¹

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed pocz¹tkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, piêæ dzieci, Muslim i Christian, “znikniêtego” w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk. ich spalone cia³a zosta³y
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dó³.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj ¿e
du¿o Rosjanie w mieœcie s¹ przekonani, ¿e dzieci rytualnie zosta³y
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy póŸniej sp³onêli ich cia³a ukryæ
zbrodniê i zapobiec eksperci znaleŸæ w cia³ach brak krwi, która jest
u¿yta przez Hasidic ¯ydzi dla celów rytua³u.

Ma³o ludzi w mieœcie wierzy, ¿e Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodz¹ do próby i, ¿e morderstwa w³aœciwie by³yby rozjaœnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentuj¹cy zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedzia³y papierowi, ¿e 5 niezale¿nych ekspertów
potwierdzi³o brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych cia³ach.

” Jestem pewny, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem”, on
powiedzia³.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezale¿ny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
¿e jest du¿a Jewish spo³ecznoœæ w Krasnoyarsk i ¿e
w³adze robi¹ w ich moc czego, by ukryæ, ¿e to rytualne morderstwo
zaanga¿owane przez ¯ydzi. Œwiadek doniós³ widzenie cia³ dzieci
rzuconych nietkniêtych dó³ jako zakaza³ przez Jewish rytua³ i wtedy ktoœ
spalony wtedy do ukrywaj¹ rany rytua³u w okreœlonych miejscach cia³
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedzia³.

Badacz przypomnia³ dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy ¯ydowski aktywista spo³ecznoœci, Beilis, zosta³ zatrzymany i zosta³
oskar¿ony morderstwa i póŸniej wypuœci³ przez s¹d z powodu
niewystarczaj¹cego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwy¿ka wagi miêdzy s¹dem.

“Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky te¿ mia³o miejsce ma³o dnia przed
¯ydowski Passover, jego cia³o te¿ zosta³o skrwawione i zosta³o
rzucone pogrzeb”, Mr którego Nazarov powiedzia³.

“I Beilis nale¿a³ do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic ga³êzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar … kopie American gangstes
æwiczy siê (on zosta³ urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin”, Pan, z którym Nazarov do³¹czy³ jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedŸ œwiatow¹ najlepszy ocenion¹
stronê internetow¹ dla JEW – WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z wiêcej dowodem wychodz¹cym udowadniaj¹cym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŒCI – innych 51 przypadków oprócz s³awnego przypadku Kastner – nic
dziwne ludzie dooko³a œwiata naprawdê nie lubi¹ Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawieraj¹:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN – Dedicated do Freedom Press,
Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
Poprzyj: [email protected]

Albo, odwiedŸ stronê internetow¹ dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :

Home


Oni maj¹ du¿o informacji, jak równie¿ ksi¹¿ki i zapisy.

Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < [email protected] >, albo do
[email protected], albo [email protected]
Czuæ siê swobodnie , by zaprenumerowaæ nas do maillists dla p³ci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.

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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:

Never forget the ZYD KOLLABORACI with nazis!

Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
the question of Polish Polish in the service of
Germans during occupation of Poland. The only
reason for this question at this time seems to be
his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provocatively,
Dr. Ilicki asks:
1) who were the members of the
police, volunteers or draftees?,

2) what was their social status?

3) what happened to them after the war?

Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
know the answers.
Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitted
that his mother listed them as killed there with
Yad Vashem. However, young (about 40 years old)
Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
and will find no skeletons as same happened last
year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.

But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
during German occupation was dramatically reduced
in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
Moreover, after each use of firearm they
(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
a report for what target each bullet was used
and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
the genocide.

Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.

On the other hand there was a police force in
the Third Reich, in which service was completely
voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The
social background of these Jewish collaborators
according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
with post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree,
20% with elementary education. These are data
>from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
has at least matura (two years of college)
see page 489 of his book. In practice, the
Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
journalist who with the day of German
occupation immediately were fired from
their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
the schools were closed.

The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
your life a little longer or die now!

Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
killed in the next “relocation”!

While Polish teachers joined the underground,
unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.

Some of it was really gruesome as your remember
>from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
endlessly in Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands
of Jews standing and watching behind three
uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
women passing out and forced into
the noose by Jewish Police

Jozef Pawlikowski

Herman

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: [email protected]

My associate in Canada, who is like me, is:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate

KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: [email protected]

First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao tse Dung
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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From: “Syja Macohstain”
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Nazi-Zionist collaboration
Date: 10 Feb 2007 11:30:05 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com

EICHMANN IN JERUSALEM
byHannah Arendt

Zionist Emigration and Gestapo Expulsion

(pp. 59-61)

During its first few years, Hitler’s rise to power appeared to the
Zionists chiefly as ‘the decisive defeat of assimilationism’. Hence, the
Zionists could, for a time, at least, engage in a certain amount of non-
criminal cooperation with the Nazi authorities; the Zionists too believed
that “dissimilation,” combined with the emigration to Palestine of Jewish
youngsters and, they hoped, Jewish capitalists, could be a “mutually
fair solution.”

At the time, many German officials held this opinion, and this kind
of seems to have been quite common up to the end. A letter from a
survivor of Theresienstadt, a German Jew, relates that all leading
positions in the Nazi-appointed “Reichsvereiningung” were held by
Zionists (whereas the authentic Jewish “Reichsvereiningung” had
been composed of both Zionists and non-Zionists), because Zionists,
according to the Nazis, were the “decent” Jews since they too thought
in “national terms.” To be sure, no prominent Nazi ever spoke publicly
in this vein; from beginning to end, Nazi propaganda was fiercely,
unequivocally, uncompromisingly anti-Semitic, and eventually nothing
counted but what people who were still without experience in the
mysteries of totalitarian government dismissed as “mere propaganda.”

There existed in those first years a mutually highly satisfactory
agreement between the Nazi authorities and the Jewish Agency for
Palestine – a ‘ Ha’avara’, or Transfer Agreement, which provided that
an emigrant to Palestine could transfer his money there in German
goods and exchange them for pounds upon arrival. It was soon the
only legal way for a Jew to take his money with him (the alternative then
being the establishment of a blocked account, which could be liquidated
abroad only at a loss of between fifty and ninety-five per cent). The result
was that in the thirties, when American Jewry took great pains to organize
a boycott of German merchandise, Palestine, of all places, was swamped
with all kinds of goods “made in Germany.”

Of Greater importance for Eichmann were the emissaries from Palestine,
who would approach the Gestapo and the S.S. on their own initiative,
without taking orders from either the German Zionists or the Jewish Agency
for Palestine. They came in order to enlist the help for the illegal
immigration of Jews into British-ruled Palestine, and both the Gestapo
and the S.S: were helpful. They negotiated with Eichmann in Vienna,
and they reported that he was “polite, not the shouting type,” and that
he even provided them with farms and facilities for setting up vocational
training camps for prospective immigrants. (“On one occasion, he expelled
a group of nuns from a convent to provide a training farm for young Jews”
and on another ‘a special train was made available and Nazi officials
accompanied’ a group of emigrants, ostensibly headed for Zionist training
farms in Yugoslavia, to see them safely across the border).

According to the story told by Jon and David Kimche, with “the full
and generous cooperation of all the chief actors” (THE SECRET ROADS:
THE ILLEGAL MIGRATION OF A PEOPLE, 1938-1948, London, 1954),
these Jews from Palestine spoke a language not totally different from that
of Eichmann. They had been sent to Europe by the communal settlements
in Palestine, and they were not interested in rescue operations: “That was
not their job.” They wanted to select “suitable material,” and their chief
enemy, prior to the extermination program, was not those who made life
impossible for Jews in the old countries, Germany or Austria, but those
who barred access to the new homeland: that enemy was definitely
Britain, not Germany.

Indeed, they were in a position to deal with the Nazi authorities on a
footing amounting to equality, which native Jews were not, since they
enjoyed the protection of the mandatory power. They were probably
among the first Jews to talk openly about mutual interests and were
certainly the first to be given permission “to pick young Jewish pioneers”
>from among the Jews in the concentration camps. Of course, they were
unaware of the sinister implications of this deal, which still lay in the
future; but they too somehow believed that if it was a question of selecting
Jews for survival, the Jews should do the selecting themselves. It was this
fundamental error in judgement that eventually led to a situation in which
the non-selected majority of Jews inevitably found themselves confronted
with two enemies – the Nazi authorities and the Jewish authorities”.

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With even the Soviets forced to admit that it was their ZYD NKVD who did the
murders at KATYN, why are you apologising for them?

Historians and experts proved it was NOT the Germans!

Were you one of the killers, or perhaps your father, uncle or?

On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, “Peter Wielki” wrote:

>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukraninians that did the crime,
>as far as I know.

>But yeah, let’s blame it on JEWS!!! Germans did it too, right Frankie?

>”Frank Arthur” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!

>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.

>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles

>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)

>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>> the discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single shot to the head.

>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1, 1916.

>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to
>> The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.

>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used
>> the word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned,
>> as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>> single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was
>> to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>> guardians.

>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the
>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.

>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.

>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.

>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder
>> victims.
>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and
>> for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily,
>> and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.

>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew
>> of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>> three – two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to those lies.

>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>> anything.

>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>> the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government
>> in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>> victims of Katyn.

>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians.

>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this must have had on Kremlin thinking?

>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran;
>> and from that city, the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth
>> and conquer half the world.

>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach

>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998

>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce

>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.

>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.

>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.

>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.

>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.

>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.

>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.

>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.

>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.

>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.

>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.

>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.

>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.

>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.

>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.

>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.

>> ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESE ZHID MURDERERS!!

>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.

>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.

>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?

>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.

>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.

>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.

>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.

>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.

>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZHIDS isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.

>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.

First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao tse Dung
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!!
Me

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

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From: Frank Arthur
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Subject: Wahr-Das Spiel mit Auschwitz Opferzahlen-Wahrheit!!
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:34:26 -0600

McVay is right in reposting this interesting article.
Now that more and more evidence is being revealed about
ZYD COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, such as the additional
51 cases, besides the notorious KASTNER case,
one MUST question the HOLOHOAX!!

Even the nototious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a
Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

The filthy ZYDS manufactured figures, just to steal money from countries!!

On 18 Oct 2004 06:58:42 -0000, Ken McVay wrote:

>NOTE: Do not print this out if you reside in Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now finally dying as a
>diseased spreader of AIDS,wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>Here is the latest…….

>Oktober 1998

>Subject.: HOLO-SCHWINDEL OHNE ENDE – HOLO-OBSKURANTEN

>HOLOCAUST SCHWINDEL-ZAHLEN AKTUALISIERT
>EIN PANOPTIKUM DEUTSCHER & OESTERREICHISCHER POLITIKER

>http://www.ostara.org/autor
>http://www.nationaljournal.org

>Wer in diesen beiden, oben genannten Laendern, auch
>Bananenrepubliken genannt, naturgeschichtlich erwiesene
>und historisch belegbare und beweisbare Fakten ueber den
>Holocaust- und Gaskammer-Schwindel veroeffentlicht, laeuft
>Gefahr wie tausende andere auch, psychiatrierte oder/und
>auf Jahre hinter Gitter zu wandern. Im Vorkriegs-Deutschland,
>zu Beginn Hitlers Machtergreifung gab es lndesweit nur rund
>30.000 kriminelle Gefangene. Null politische.

>Im “freiesten” Deutschland aller Zeiten unter Hennoch Kohn
>explodiert die “normale” Kriminalitaet, Mord und Totschlag,
>Drogen und Drogentote und es befinden sich rund 9000
>poltische Haeftlinge hinter Gitter. Tendenz: Alles
>rapide steigend bis die Laender voellig kaputt sind.

>Welcher freche Schwindel und Luegen mit dem Holocaust getrieben
>wird, moegen die folgenden Zahlen aus oeffentlichen Quellen
>verdeutlichen.
>Die duemmste Aussage kommt jedoch von der Deutschen Bundestags
>Praesidentin Rita Suessmut, eine extrem dumme und geistig
>zurueckgebliebene Dumpfbacke, die die Holocaustzahlen sogar
>heute noch auf 11 Millionen (!!) hinauslizitiert.

>Datum Wo veroeffentlichet Zahlen
>———————————————————————–

>31.12.1945 Franzoesische Ermittlungsstelle 8,0 Mill
> fuer Nazi-Kriegsverbrechen

>20.04.1978 Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung) 5 Mill

>23.01.1995 Die Welt 5 Mill

>20.04.1989 Eugen Kogon, Der SS-Staat (Seite 176) 4,5 Mill

>31.12.1952 Der Neue Herder (Lexikon, 7. Auflage) 4,5 Mill

>01.10.1946 IMT-Dokument 008-USSR
> (Alliertes Militaergericht N?rnberg) 4,0 Mill

>02.05.1997 USA-Today (groesste Tageszeitung der USA) 4,0 Mill

>24.11.1989 Oberstaatsanwalt Majorowsky
> (Anklage 12 Js 1037/89) 4,0 Mill

>26.07.1990 Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn) 4,0 Mill

>08.10.1993 ZDF-Nachrichten 4,0 Mill

>25.01.1995 Wetzlarer Neue Zeitung 4.0 Mill

>01.10.1946 IMT-Dokument 3868-PS
> (Alliiertes Militaergericht Nuernberg) 3,0 Mill

>01.01.1995 DAMALS (amtliches Bonner Geschichtsmagazin) 3,0 Mill

>18.07.1990 The Peninsula Times
> (Tageszeitung, S.Francisco, USA) 2,0 Mill

>25.07.1990 Hamburger Abendblatt 2,0 Mill

>27.01.1995 Die Welt (Kanzler Kohls “Millonen-Luege”) 2,0 Mill

>02.05.1997 USA-Today (gruesste Tageszeitung der USA) 1,5 Mill

>11.06.1992 Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn) 1,5 Mill

>08.10.1993 ZDF (berichtigendes Schreiben zur Nachricht
> von “4 Millionen”) 1,5 Mill

>23.01.1995 Die Welt 1,5 Mill

>01.09.1989 Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung) 1.43Mill

>02.02.1995 BUNTE Illustrierte 1,4 Mill

>22.01.1995 Welt am Sonntag 1,2 Mill

>27.01.1995 Die Welt 1,1 Mill

>27.01.1995 IfZ (Institut fuer Zeitgeschichte, Muenchen) 1,0 Mill

>31.12.1989 Pressac, Auschwitz, Technique …
> (im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung) 0,928 Mill

>27.09.1993 Die Welt 800.000

>22.01.1995 Welt am Sonntag 750.000

>01.05.1994 Focus 700.000

>23.01.1995 Die Welt 700.000

>31.12.1994 Pressac, Die Krematorien …
> (Im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung) 470.000

>08.01.1948 Welt im Film
> (britische Wochenschau-Reportage Nr. 137) 300.000

>06.01.1990 Frankfurter Rundschau 74.000

>31.05.1994 Hoffmann, Stalins Vernichtungskrieg, Seite 302 74.000

>17.08.1994 Internat. Suchdienst Arolsen (Sach Nr.10824) 66.206

>Aus dem Werk “Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte” entnehmen wir weiters,
>dass die beurkundete Gesamtanzahl aller Sterbefaelle in ALLEN
>deutschen KZ bei 289.597 lagen. Kann man davon ausgehen, dass
>davon rund 150.000 bis max. 200.000 Juden betroffen waren?
>Auch die in Moskauer Archiven gefundenen Totenbuecher registrierten
>fuer Auschwitz nicht mehr als 70.000 Sterbefaelle.

>Hoechst wichtig: Auch der Vatikan, eine Hochburg der Freimaurerei
>und damit unter juedischer Kontrolle, bzw. der Papst selbst
>(juedische Abstammung, seine Mutter hiess Katz), denen man wegen
>ihrem Schweigen zum Holocaust und Judenvernichtung (unter Pius XII)
>immer heftiger attackiert, wollte diese Zahlen nicht kommentieren
>sondern der Papst verbeitet nach wie vor die Millionen-Luege
>der Juden.

>Waehrend des Krieges betrieb der amerikanische Geheimdienst OSS
>im Vatikan sogar eine Spionage-Zentrale, wo auch alle Nachrichten
>aus den KZs zusammenliefen. Es gibt zum Leidwesen der Zionisten
>KEIN einziges Dokument das den Holocaust und die chronischen Luegen und
>Utopien der Juden bestaetigen wuerde. Moeglicherweise arbeitet man
>aber jetzt schon emsig an einer Faelschung eines Dokumentes das man
>wie “zufaellig” in den Keller-Archiven des Vatikans gefunden hat.

>Wolfgang Froehlich, den man in einem neuen Machwerk (Das Netz des
>Hasses) des linken Verbrecher- und Bombenbastler-Vereines DOEW unter
>Wolfgang Neugebauer als wuesten “Antisemiten” bezeichnete, hat zum Thema
>Holocaust ebenfalls einiges Datenmaterial und Fakten gesammelt die
>wir hiermit mit groesster Genugtuung und Befriedigung praesentieren.
>Wir wollen hoffen, dass dieser Text in moeglichst vielen Schulen
>Oesterreichs und Deutschlands gelesen, studiert und verteilt wird.

>Dabei freuen wir uns ganz besonders, die publizierten Luegen dieser
>staatlich subventionierten linken Ganoven-Mafia in ihrem
>Sprachrohr, das rosa freimaurerische Schmutz- und Schundblatt
>STANDARD zu korrigieren. So schreibt Hubertus Czernin am 1. Nov:

>”… bei rund 108.000 Internet-Anschluessen im Land macht der Zugriff
>auf die Ostara-Seite nur wenige Promille aus. Sie irren Czernin:
>Dank Ihrer Schmutzkuebel-Werbung im Standard wurden in den letzten
>zwei Wochen mehr 22.000 Zugriffe registriert wobei an Holocaust
>voellig uninteressierte Personen sich rund 200 MB an Daten runtergeholt
>haben. Wir danken den Schreiberling Czernin und Wolfgang Neugebauer
>auf diese Weise mit dem grossen symbolischen Stalin-Orden.
>Und wie uns der anonyme Betreiber der Webseite freundlichst
>und rechtsverbindlich mitteilte, betraegt der woechentliche
>Zugriff rund 2500, wobei in nur neun Monaten mehr als
>103.000 Zugriffe registriert wurden. Eine sehr schmerzliche Statistik
>fuer den linken Bodensatz und dem stalinistischen Abschaum Oesterreichs.

>Die Kernfrage ist, wohin sind Millionen europaeische Juden
>verschwunden? Falls sie ueberhaupt “verschwunden” sind.
>Auch der Brockhaus gibt uns einige Antworten auf diese Frage.
>Aus der folgenden Liste, die auch Wolfgang Frohlich publizierte
>und an hunderte Richter und Staatsanwaelte schickte, entnehmen wir:

>Die juedischen Wanderbewegungen im 20. Jahrhundert (aus: Das Recht
>auf Wahrheit von Herbert Schweiger). Dazu einige wichtige Basiszahlen:

>Aus dem Schweizer “ENCYCLOPEDIA LEXIKON” entnehmen wir z.B.
>dass es in ganz Europa vor Hitler 9,8 Millionen Juden gab.
>Nach Hitler waren es noch 4,2 Millionen.
>Halten wir fest, es fehlen also 5.6 Millionen.

>Zu Beginn des zweiten Weltkrieges und im deutschen Einflussgebiet
>gab es in Europa max. 3.3 Millionen Juden auf die Hitler “Zugriff”
>hatte.
>Quelle: American Jewish Yearbook, Nr. 43. Walter Sanning nennt in
>seinem
>Buch The Dissolution of Eastern Jewry, 2. Auflage, 1985 die Zahl von
>2.9 Millionen. Die Baseler Nachrichten vom 13.6.1946 behaupten, dass es
>hoechstens 3 Millionen gewesen sind.

>Juedische Bevoelkerung 1930 1938 1968 Gesamt Zuwachs 1930-1968
>————————————————————————
>Israel 285.000 410.000 3,100.000 2,815.000
>USA 4,4 Mill 4,7 Mill 6.200.000 1,738.400
>Suedamerika 306.000 373.600 762.700 456.000
>Kanada 140.000 160.000 280.000 140.000
>Frankreich 225.000 270.000 535.000 310.000
>England 300.000 340.000 410.000 110.000
>Australien 25.000 27.000 74.000 50.000
>Suedafrika 60.000 100.000 114.000 54.000

>SUMME 5,783.000 6,360.000 11.456.000 + 5,7 Mill.

>Im Klartext: Das europaeische Judentum “verlor” keine 6 Millionen durch
>den Holocaust, sondern hauptsaechlich durch Migration und Auswanderung.
>Rund 1,5 Millionen wanderten nach dem Krieg aus Europa in die typischen
>Einwanderungslaender aus.

>Trotz dieser enormen Diskrepanzen haben bis zum 1. Juli 1980 mehr als
>5 Millionen “Holocaust-Ueberlebende” Antraege auf Wiedergutmachung
>gestellt und 4,346.608 wurden auch bewilligt. Wie ist dieser
>rein rechnerische Schwachsinn moeglich?

>Die folgenden Zahlen beweisen in noch deutlicheren Form welcher
>Schwindel
>mit dem Holocaust und “Wiedergutmachungen” getrieben wird.
>Die Zahlen der juedischen Weltbevoelkerung stammen ausschliesslich
>aus juedischen Quellen.

>Vor dem 2. Weltkieg:

>The National Council of Churches, USA 1930 15,0 Mill
>Jewish Encyclopedia, USA 1933 15,6 Mill
>World Almanach (Jewish Committee 1939) 15,6 Mill

>NACH DEM 2. WELTKRIEG:

>World Almanach (American Jewish Committee, USA)
>1945 15,19 Mill
>1946 15,75 Mill
>1947 15,69 Mill
>1948 15,50 Mill
>New York Times, div. Meldungen, 1948 15,7 bis 18,60 Mill
>World Almanach, 1949 15,50 Mill
>World Almanach, 1950 11,50 Mill
>National Council of Churches, USA, 1951 15,31 Mill

>Aus diesen Zahlen ist klar und deutlich ersichtlich, dass der
>Holocaust nicht zwischen 1939 und 1942 stattgefunden hat,
>sondern erst 1950 bzw. 1949 (!)

>Oesterreichische (und auch Deutsche) Leser dieser Berichte
>werden aber diese Zahlen in Oesterreich NICHT
>nachvollziehen koennen. Das bolschewistische System dieser beiden
>Laender hat dafuer gesorgt, dass fast alle original Lexiken und
>Geschichtswerke bis 1950 aus allen Bibliotheken des Landes entfernt
>wurden oder/und nicht zugreifbar sind.
>Das Volk soll, nein, muss dumm sterben.

>Seltsamerweise verschwanden in allen Lexiken und Jahrbuechern
>anno 1950 – je nachdem welcher Verlag – 4-6 Millionen Juden spurlos.
>Und entgegen vieler Geruechte, sie emigrierten auch NICHT auf den Mars
>oder flogen mit UFOs zum Aldebaran.

>Und noch seltsamer ist, dass diese 4 Millionen Juden ausgerechnet
>zu einem Zeitpunkt (1950) spurlos verschwanden, nachdem auch der
>damalige deutsche Bundeskanzler und Krypto-Jude Konrad Adenauer
>sein Land verraten hatte und mit Nahum Goldmann neue
>”Wiedergutmachungs-Verhandlungen” fuehrte. Dann musste man aber
>frech, aus allen Lexiken 4 Millionen Menschen verschwinden lassen.
>Damit die Statistik wieder “stimmt” Oder fand der “Holocaust”
>gar schon 1949 statt, nach Redaktionsschluss des juedischen
>”Welt-Almanachs”.

>Egal wie man das Thema Holocaust auch dreht und wendet und die Zahlen
>faelscht, Tatsache ist und bleibt, dass man auf Kosten Millionen
>von unschuldigen Menschen auf viele Generationen hinweg,
>mit Hilfe gekaufter Politiker einen gigantischen Betrug inszenierte.
>Oesterreich zahlte fuer diesen frechen Schwindel bereits die
>gigantische Summe von weit mehr als 300 Milliarden AS
>(rund 25 Milliarden US $)

>Wie hoch und wie lange die ewigen “Wiedergutmachungs-Zahlungen”,
>das Abkassieren und Absahnen ohne Ende noch werden wird,
>darueber werden wir – sofern es dann das Internet noch gibt –
>und unsere Enkelkinder mit ohnmaechtigen Zorn berichten koennen.
>Bis dahin finden sich immer wieder rueckgratlose Kreaturen
>und Kanalratten die ihr Land und das Volk fuer wenige Silberlinge
>verraten und verkaufen. Wie z.B. Viktor Klima, der dumm
>grinsend, auf Grund einer internationalen Raubgold-Konferenz
>in London Ende 1997 bzw. 1998 eindeutig oesterreichisches
>Waehrungsgold in der Hoehe von rund 110 Millionen AS einfach
>an die Juden und Netanyahu verschenkte.

wrote:

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At one time, anti-Semites were considered to be people who did not like Jews.
Now, anti-Semites are people whom the Jews don’t like. Jews use the term as a
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:25:41 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
wrote:
>On 4 Sep 2006 16:09:27 -0700, in de.soc.politik.misc “Deinos Dionysos”
> wrote:
>Albert Pfündl schrieb:
>> “G.Bartels” schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:[email protected]
>> Ein zweites Katyn

>> > Liegt Babi Yar nicht auch in der Naehe von Kiew?!

>> http://www.lsg.musin.de/gesch/geschichte/natsoz/massaker_von_babi_yar.htm

>Unter Deinem Link lesen wir:

>”Ende 1943 mußten jüdische KZ-Häftlinge die Leichen exhumieren und
>verbrennen, um zu versuchen, die Spur des Massenmordes zu verwischen.”

>Blobel, der für die Beseitigung des Grabes zuständig war, sagte aber:

>”3. During my visits in August I myself observed the burning of bodies
>in a mass grave near Kiev. This grave was about 55 m. long, 3 m. wide
>and 2-1/2 m. deep. After the top had been removed the bodies were
>covered with inflammable material and ignited. It took about two days
>until the grave burned down to the bottom. I myself observed that the
>fire had glowed down to the bottom. After that the grave was filled in
>and the traces practically obliterated.”

>Wie erklären uns die “seriösen Historiker” diesen Widerspruch? Und
>was für ein brennbares Material war das wohl? Scheint ja ein wahres
>Wunderzeug gewesen zu sein.

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JEWISH COMMISSARS KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN WERE KILLED IN ALL THE WARS COMBINED
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On 29 Mar 2007 15:24:52 -0700, in soc.culture.canada “Venceremos”
wrote:

The worlds largest Holocaust occured when Jewish dominated CHEKA,
NKVD, KGB etc. slaughtered close to 100 million Russians, and almost
wiped out several racial groups, such as Tatars, Chechens, Uigurs and
Tajiks.

Jewish Commissars mercilessly killed people with a bullet in the back
of the head, or worked them to death in the slave camps.

The details on the greatest Holocaust that befell world are readily
available in Aleksndr Solzhenitsyn’s “200 YEARS TOGETHER” so far
available in many languages only in Russia, on the behest of the
Zionists of the world.

(The family of yours truly was slaughtered by the Jews at Posad
Pokrovskoe with a bullet in the back of the head, by the Jewish Commissars)

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Notice that the piece of merde using various aliases such as Dezi Coughlan,
Goldstein, et al, just can not deny the articles he posted SUPPORTING THE
NAZIS!!

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:42:01 GMT, JimMcCarthy
wrote:

>Desmond Cohen, alias Coughlan, now alias Izzie/Yitzhak Goldstein,
>the NAZI claiming to be a filthy Christkiller rabbi, is well-known as
>being an unmitigated LIAR!!

Grosvenor has never in his life been near Newcastle-onTyne, and
most definitely has NO CONVICTIONS FOR ASSAULT
& EMBEZZLEMENT THERE!!

But what can one expect from such a piece of Nazi filth as Dezi?

He should be put into an oven, and incinerated with the rest of the garbage!!

Guess Dezi dislikes Noles for exposing his charade, what?

>On 30 Sep 2005 05:35:51 -0700, “Nazi_Noles-Crusher”
> wrote:
>>> Repost
>
>>Of Nazi Noles’s post .. in its entirety.
>>Birds of a feather flock together.
>>Y.
>
>On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:37:35 -0500, “he_who_exposes_liars”
>
>
>>Dec 18, 2004
>>What kind of a person would claim to be Jewish, just so he can
>>attack Jewish interests? That would be the poster who signs
>>himself as a Jew, and has now been proven to not be Jewish.
>>Desmond is NOT Jewish. In one of the most sweeping and
>>diabolical frauds ever attempted in AADP, Desmond hopes to
>>heap lie upon lie. He only changed his handle to insult the
>>idea that there are actually a Jewish people. Actually, now
>>laughing in the face of the Jews. To insult the birthright that
>>belongs to those Jews who wish to claim it, if such a birthright
>>exists, which Desmond argues does not exist. His new handle
>>was created only with his smug contempt for the Jews. It is
>>only his effort to add “insult to injury” to the Jews.
>>As usual, when Desmond gets caught in a lie, he believes that
>>in typical Nixon fashion, he can _tough it out_, by offering a
>>bigger and bigger lie, in his use of the _I am not a crook_, defense.
>
>>With Desmond frequently employing the same technique, insisting
>>that “I do not lie;” said just shortly after being caught in a lie.
>>Yes… there are SEVEN facts now… all that prove together that
>>Desmond is not Jewish….In his own words, in the manner,
>>methods and purpose of his posts, and from someone who
>>personally knows him. Seven distinct and separate facts in
>>evidence that prove he is not Jewish.
>
>>1) He does not believe in a God… thus he cannot claim to be Jewish
>>through that religion.
>>His own words have often denied his belief in any God… and he
>>is thus an atheist, and by definition a Gentile. Not of the Jewish
>>faith. Some of his comments verifying that —
>>Desmond’s words to St. George… “I’m not, St.George. In fact, I don’t
>>even believe in God.”
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/d4…
>
>>And another of his denials that he believes in God —
>>”If I believed in God, I would get down on my knees every day and
>>thank Him for not having me born in the United States.”
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/36…
>
>>And yet another, rather insulting characterization of God as
>>seen through the eyes of the believers in the Judaic religion —
>>”Whilst not necesarily subscribing to the Judeo-Christian
>>myths of heaven and hell, and a benevolent God wearing a
>>beard and with a Polo mint floating above His head.” See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/61…
>
>>And yet again.. disputing the ideas contained in the Judaic
>>religion — “man’s pretentiousness in believing that ‘God’
>>created him in His image.” See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/db…
>
>>And yet again — his words — “I dissociate myself from the ‘classic’
>>Judeo-Christian… idea of ‘spirituality’, and consider the soul, as
>>distinct from any organised religion. ” See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/60…
>
>>And a great many further comments in which he has insisted
>>that he does not believe in “A God,” and certainly not the God
>>believed in by those of the Jewish religious faith
>
>>2) He has insisted that no one is a “born Jew,” thus he cannot
>>claim he is Jewish through any ethnic descent that he does not
>>even believe in.
>
>>In fact, Desmond was born in Clydebank, Scotland, and his family
>>is pure Scottish (Celtic… as corrected by Mr. Rennie), and
>>has been so for as many generation as are known. His primary
>>education from the ages of 12 until 18 was in “Our Lady’s High
>>School,” in Cumbernauld, Scotland. A Roman Catholic
>>school. See —
>>http://www.northlan.gov.uk/education+and+learning/schools/secondary/o…
>
>>And both his given name and his family name leave no doubt that
>>he has no Jewish ancestry to speak of. See —
>>http://website.lineone.net/~tam.c/spare/coughlan.htm
>
>>And he has denied that there is even a possibility of anyone being
>>a “born Jew” with his words — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
>>spagmerchant.”
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7e…
>
>>And in another post of his, insisting that it is a lie to
>>believe that one can be “born Jewish” — his words —
>>”As FuckWit seems to be a ‘born liar’, perhaps that’s
>>why he believes that one can be ‘born Jewish’.” See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ef…
>
>>And he agreed with another poster in the claim that “It is abusive –
>>and even linguistically abusive – to state that we were “born Jew”. See –
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/f8…
>
>>He certainly cannot claim to be Jewish “through birth,” if he does not
>>even believe that anyone can be Jewish “through birth.”
>
>>3) John Rennie knows Desmond personally, and has stated Desmond
>>is not Jewish. Desmond became rather enraged at this disclosure and
>>insisted that John was _honor bound_ not to reveal Desmond’s lie.
>
>>John has offered six separate posts, each of them insisting that he
>>knows Desmond personally, and that Desmond confirmed to him that
>>he was not Jewish, and in fact felt it was a big joke he was playing on
>>AADP, and found it a source of both amusement and laughter that
>>the group members could be so gullible. See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7d…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6d…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/a0…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/95…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/bb…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/18…
>
>>And Desmond even insisted that John was _honor bound_ not to reveal
>>that Desmond had been lying all these years, as if Desmond demanded
>>that John join in with a belief in an _honor code of liars_. And then
>>Desmond had the nerve to accuse John Rennie of having “blackmailed”
>>him. Desmond will try to smear ANYONE who might threaten his lie.
>>Rather obvious from the ugly names he has called anyone who does
>>threaten his lie.
>
>>4) The cold, brutal and savage methods Desmond uses here.
>
>>Including all of those obscene ravings, claiming that a Jewish
>>stepfather was a pedophile, demanding that other human beings
>>kill themselves, conclusively prove otherwise. Desmond is
>>without a heart, and the Jewish people are recognized as
>>compassionate, gentle and humane in their ethnic descent.
>>One could even say that this has been passed down as a
>>meme, because of their own persecution over probably 5000
>>years. While Desmond is devoid of all compassion. And
>>there is an indescribable anger and rage in him, that the
>>Jews do not demonstrate. Inside of him lies a strong distaste
>>for the Jews, often expressed here.
>
>>It is disgusting for him to continue to offer that phony claim that he
>>is Jewish so he can attack the Jews. He is attempting to perpetrate
>>the greatest hoax ever attempted in AADP, in order for him to
>>attack Jewish interests throughout the world. Witness his
>>frequent explosive outbursts… lashing out in brutality, rage and
>>hate, repeated so often in so many posts. A typical comment
>>he often offers to those he perceives as his _enemies_ —
>
>>”>’spnak’ (sic) … ‘spnak’ (sic) …’spnak’ (sic) … whump-squeal! …
>>slap… punch … kick … ‘spnak’ (sic) … ‘spnak’ (sic) …hammer!
>>…thrash … thump! … whump-squeal … ‘spnak’ (sic)
>>…pummel-pummel-pummel … bash! … beat! … ‘spnak’ (sic) …
>>’spnak'(sic) …’spnak’ (sic) … >”
>
>>Does that sound like someone who is Jewish? Someone who
>>is gentle, and humane and not accustomed to using brutal
>>methods? Not hardly… it looks more like something from
>>Attila the Hun.
>
>>5) His many comments which disparage, _make fun_ of
>>the Holocaust, or insist that the Jews murdered in the
>>holocaust cannot be seen as different from any murderer
>>executed in the U.S. DP.
>
>>Reducing those innocent victims to no better than proven
>>murderers, or objects to ridicule. Insisting that those
>>innocent victims of the holocaust were legally killed.
>>Which obviously insists that the Nazis are legally
>>innocent of killing a single Jew. He is quite insistent
>>that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing even a single
>>Jew.
>
>>The number of times he has compared the Jews slaughtered
>>in the Holocaust to being nothing better than any murderer
>>executed in the DP in the U.S. is staggering. There must
>>be a few score posts in which he has compared the holocaust
>>to being no worse than the U.S. DP, and thus those innocent
>>Jews murdered in the Holocaust, are seen by him as no
>>different or better than those legally tried and convicted
>>murderers executed in the U.S. DP. Even given the vast
>>number of his posts that now no longer exist in google.
>>For example, his comments such as —
>
>>a) His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews
>>was legal,”
>
>>b) His words — “German society said that the extermination
>>of the Jews was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …,”
>
>>c) His words — “I state that the Holocaust is ‘akin’ to the death
>>penalty”
>
>>Six million innocent Jews killed, mechanically and methodically,
>>in a degrading assembly line manner in a few short years…
>>less that a thousand convicted murderers killed, given
>>trials that demand unanimity from a jury of peers, and a
>>decade of due process… no difference to Desmond.
>>Six million innocent Jews <=> less than a thousand murderer,
>>to him.
>
>>d) His words — “the issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in
>>declaring Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.”
>
>>Desmond finding that it is LEGAL… to declare the Jews
>>as “inhuman.”
>
>>e) His words — “it _was_ legal to kill Jews in WWII,”
>
>>f) His words — “the death penalty in the United States is no
>>more, or no less ‘moral’ or ‘just’ than the Final Solution.
>>Many consider it to be so, but that is nothing more than
>>a subjective value judgement. In the absolute, the Nazi
>>Holocaust and the death penalty are perfect equivalents,
>>both morally and legally.”
>
>>See how he equates the six million innocent Jews as
>>”perfect equivalents” to less than a thousand proven
>>murderers? Of course there is a difference despite
>>Desmond’s refusal to see it. Does anyone here… see
>>what that difference is, between the Jews killed by the
>>Nazis, and those murderers killed by the U.S.?
>>Desmond doesn’t see it. He sees those Jews as no
>>different from those proven murderers in the _absolute_.
>>In fact he sees six million innocent Jews as no different
>>in _the absolute_ than the less than a thousand
>>proven murderers executed in the U.S. in more than
>>25 years. _Absolutely the same_, to him. And he
>>claims to be Jewish!!! Get out of here. He’s a liar.
>
>>g) His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust
>>was mass murder, in which case, so is the death penalty,
>>or the death penalty is ‘just’, in which case, so was the
>>extermination of the Jews.” Attempting to imply that
>>the holocaust was no worse than the U.S. DP,
>>again reducing the six million Jews killed by the
>>Nazis, without the slightest effort to provide a trial,
>>or due process, or even define a _crime_, to nothing
>>better than the less than a thousand executed
>>murderers, given an open trial by their peers, and
>>a decade of due process. He argues there is no
>>difference, which is only attempting to make the
>>Jews to be no better than convicted murderers,
>>as a ratio of more than 6,000 Jews to each murderer
>>executed.
>
>>h) Desmond once posed an argument that he
>>stated retentionists often make to _justify the
>>DP_. Offering that retentionists try to separate the
>>idea of the Jews having been innocent, and murderers
>>having murdered when retentionists make the
>>statement — “The Jews hadn’t done anything;
>>murderers have.” Desmond REFUTED that claim
>>with a single word answer — “Irrelevant”!!! Imagine,
>>he finds any mention of the difference between the
>>innocence of the Jews, and the act of a murderer
>>IS IRRELEVANT!!! Again, Desmond makes sure
>>to insist that there is NO DIFFERENCE between
>>an innocent Jew murdered in the Holocaust, and
>>a murderer executed in the U.S. DP. They are
>>exactly the same to him.
>
>>i) His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to
>>refer to the legal execution of 6,000,000 Jews in the
>>Second World War.” While providing a definition
>>that does not even use the word “legal.”
>
>>j) His words — “Which still leaves that nagging
>>question about those six million Jews ‘lawfully
>>executed’ during WWII …”
>
>>k) His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution
>>for those found guilty of being Jewish’.”
>
>>Making a jest about the Holocaust (since this could
>>not possibly be as grotesque as stated…. even for
>>Desmond, regardless how much he despises the
>>Jews) — Why would anyone who is Jewish, make
>>such a comment, even in sarcasm? What does that
>>say to the victims? Apparently the Holocaust is really
>>just a big joke to him.
>
>>l) His words — “Aside from the Nazi Holocaust, ‘a just
>>execution for those found guilty of being Jewish’,
>>European countries gave up their habit of ‘invading
>>formerly sovereign nations’ centuries ago.”
>
>>ANOTHER ugly and evil comment from him, even if he
>>is attempting to joke about the Holocaust — Trying at
>>the same moment to make a jest about the Holocaust,
>>while being perfectly serious in defending European
>>countries, in an obvious lie, given the great number
>>of invasions of one sovereign European country by
>>another in the past few centuries.
>
>>m) His words — “The Final Solution was not illegal
>>under German law, Richard, and the ‘laws’ which were
>>used to secure the Nürnberg hangings, were not written
>>until (if my memory serves me correctly) 1949 or
>>1952 (one or the other).”
>
>>In his bold attempt to offer an excuse for the legal innocence
>>of the Nazis. Obviously, behind his words is the clear
>>claim that any accusations of the Nazis having committed
>>any illegal killings of the Jews in WW II, were efforts to
>>apply ex post facto “law,” meaning that he believed that
>>such a “law” did not exist, and the Nazis were _home
>>free and innocent_. Notice that he placed the words
>>”law” in quotes in respect to any law that would have
>>served to find a legal crime was committed by the Nazis,
>>but had no reservations at all about asserting that the killing
>>of the Jews by the Nazis was relevant and applicable
>>_law_, not needing to be quoted, but his feelings.
>
>>6) Desmond’s various anti-Jewish comments, and insults
>>to the Jews, which could not possibly be offered by any Jew.
>
>>a) John Rennie asked Desmond if he didn’t feel that it
>>was an insult to those victims to argue that their deaths
>>were legal. And Desmond… without missing a beat…
>>felt it was not an insult to those victims, as long as he
>>did not argue that their deaths were _moral_. As if any fool
>>would argue that the holocaust was _moral_. He USES
>>that claim to defend the legal innocence of the Nazis.
>
>>Desmond claimed that this is no insult to the Jews who
>>were killed to state that they were killed legally. However;
>>when a past post of his is examined we see that he
>>finds that Roger Coleman, a convicted murderer, had
>>what Desmond insisted was “insult added to injury,” to
>>COLEMAN, in the U.S. lawfully executing Coleman.
>>It seems that Desmond has two different sets of values
>>for those he considers insulted in being killed by the state.
>>One for the Nazis who he hopes to hide under the
>>umbrella of legal innocence, and claim it is no insult to
>>the Jews to insist that they were legally killed. And
>>another for the U.S. in its execution of a proven
>>murderer. A convicted murderer that Desmond finds
>>had “insult added to injury” when he was killed as a
>>convicted murderer. Desmond finds it was not “insult
>>added to injury” to six million Jews for him to insist
>>that they were killed legally. But believes that Roger
>>Coleman, a proven murderer had “insult added to injury”
>>when the state executed him under that same claim
>>of killed legally.
>
>>b) His ugly comparison of the 2.5 million innocent Jewish
>>victims slaughtered in Auschwitz, to around 300 proven
>>murderers executed in Texas. Arguing that one is the
>>same as the other, and thus those 2.5 million innocent
>>Jewish victims are no better to him than around 300
>>proven murderers.
>
>>c) His comment that the Jews commit “butchery.” hiding
>>behind the _excuse_ that they are _only Israelis_, while
>>80% of all Israelis are Jewish. Apparently feeling that
>>accusing only 80% if the Jews of Israel of committing
>>”butchery” in not enough to actually constitute anti-Semitism.
>
>>d) His insisting that the U.S. is _run by the Jews_, and it
>>would be better if the U.S. abandoned its “unwavering
>>support” for the Jews… and let Israel presumably sink.
>>It is my belief that his anti-Americanism can be traced
>>as much to his anti-Jewish feelings as his anti-U.S.
>>feelings. There is much to examine about his feelings
>>in his claim that Americans are “lower down the evolutionary
>>scale” than those he sees as _human beings_. Which has
>>a strong resemblance to how the Nazis saw the Jews.
>>Given that the U.S. has a Jewish population larger than
>>that of Israel.
>
>>e) His attack on the Jewish press — calling it biased, while
>>ignoring the fact that the Arab press often calls for the
>>murder of the Jews, and praises Hitler.
>
>>f) His defending an anti-Semitic remark made by the French
>>Ambassador to England.
>
>>g) His bizarre claim that in the past 2000 years, during which
>>European persecution of the Jews ran rampant, that Europe
>>”in matters of morals has led the world…” While forgetting
>>that in that same period, Europe experienced the holocaust,
>>in addition to unbelievable persecution of the Jews. And he
>>even invoked the name of “Christ,” when speaking of those
>>2000 years, leaving the ugly taste that he finds that persecution
>>acceptable because of “Christ.”
>
>>h) His despicable attack on the Jews, by accusing them of
>>being responsible for 9/11. He has always emphatically
>>denied that bin Laden had a hand in 9/11.
>
>>i) His statement that the Jewish state of Israel is “the most
>>anti-Semitic country on the planet.” Once again, ignoring
>>totally the anti-Semitic Arab world, in the definition of that
>>word. An anti-Semitic Arab world that calls from a religious
>>pulpit for the killing of ALL Jews. An anti-Semitic Arab world
>>that teaches children to murder Jews in the _name of Allah_.
>>And an anti-Semitic Arab world that provides the DP for any
>>Arab to sell any land to any Jew. And in fact, there is no
>>evidence that he has ever offered any comment which condemns
>>Islam for the sickness within that religion, that kills Jews in
>>the name of “Allah.” He is critical of the DP everywhere, but
>>I have never seen his criticize the DP placed into law by the
>>Arabs to other Arabs who sell land to any Jew. He is defensive
>>of Islam, and critical of the Jews in all cases. He supports
>>the demise of the Jewish state of Israel by any means, and
>>his comments leave the implication that he finds Zionism is
>>itself racist.
>
>>j) He has insisted that one of the active perpetrators of the holocaust
>>(Maurice Papon) should be excused from punishment, because
>>of _his age_.
>
>>k) He has argued in various posts that it’s been 60 years now,
>>so the holocaust no longer looms as something that should
>>deeply concern us, other than its _historical significance_.
>>Rather seeing it as like the _black plague_, as an act of God,
>>rather than man’s inhumanity to his fellow man.
>
>>l) He has insulted various known Jews here, and chased them
>>away, with his insulting manner. One particular case being his
>>threatening a Jew … Andy Katz. In his words — “Don’t get in
>>my way, or you will regret it.” And Andy Katz took that very
>>seriously as a threat, with part of it being because Andy is
>>Jewish. Regular posters here know of another quite real
>>threat Desmond made, that caused another regular poster to
>>leave for some time, no longer able to handle Desmond’s hate.
>
>>m) Desmond’s attempts to dismiss discrimination against the Jews —
>>in his words — “One could perhaps leave the Jews out of the
>>equation concerning discrimination, but the fact is that the poor,
>>blacks, Asians, and so on, are subjected to discrimination on
>>a daily basis in the United States.” I don’t think that the Jews
>>can be left out of ANY EQUATION concerning discrimination,
>>even in the context of the U.S.
>
>>n) Insulting the Jews, even as he claims he is Jewish, when
>>someone asked him — “Desmond, aren’t you part-jewish btw? :)”
>>And he replied — “100 % … ever since they took away my
>>pullover … ;-)” It seems even there he believes he can don
>>and shed his Jewishness as he wishes.
>
>>o) And then finding that the Jews are dishonest, even as he
>>claims to be Jewish, in his words — “Damn, can’t help that
>>dishonesty … must be the Jewish in me.”
>
>>p) Of course in the midst of his lies in claiming he is Jewish, he
>>uses that lie to accuse the Jews of _whining_ about the
>>holocaust. In his words — “Yet by milking those terrible events
>>for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel and World Jewry
>>(of which I am part) are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.”
>>Imagine that… claiming he is Jewish, and calling the Jews
>>_whiners_ in the same sentence.
>
>>q) And again, Desmond insists that the Jews only _whine_
>>about the holocaust, to apparently commit what he sees as
>>atrocities… in his words — “certain sections of the Jewish
>>community use the Shoah to justify their own excesses”
>
>>r) And his efforts to take away the meaning of the word
>>”anti-Semitic” in the English language. Taking great pains to
>>redefine that term in the English language, which left the
>>implication that he feels the Jews are USING that term to
>>insist that it only applies to them. As when he insisted that
>>”anti-Semitism” was — “a word which FuckWit thinks _only_
>>applies to those who harbour hatred for the Jews, and not
>>the other half-dozen or so Semitic races … *snigger*”
>>Desmond abhors the thought that the Jews might actually
>>have been the victims of the definition of that word… and
>>even ends with a snide laugh at the idea that the word
>>only applies to — “hostility toward the Jews.” Does anyone
>>actually think that a Jew would try to DISMISS the meaning
>>of that term?
>
>>s) And anyone who dares to confront him in respect to his
>>support for the legal innocence of the Nazis in killing the
>>Jews, or offers any pro-Jewish or pro-Israel comment is
>>called a “Nazi” or a “Nazi Bastard.” He does this because
>>he finds anyone who insists that the Nazis are not legally
>>innocent of killing the Jews, or who offer any pro-Jewish,
>>or pro-Israel comments are _Nazi sympathizers_. Because
>>HE SEES the Jews as Nazis!!! And thus anyone supporting
>>the Jews is such a sympathizer of those he sees as Nazis…
>>the Jews… rather than those everyone knows are the real
>>Nazis. He is a supporter of what another anti-Jewish
>>poster has called “Jewish fascism.” Insisting that the Jews
>>have now taken on the persona of those who hoped to
>>exterminate them 60 years ago. He thus finds someone who
>>supports the Jews of Israel must be a “Nazi.” After all he
>>claimed they commit “butchery,” claimed that they are the
>>most anti-Semitic people on this planet, and insists that the
>>U.S. in supporting the Jews of Israel is also _Nazi_. I believe
>>that rational people find the Nazis committed “butchery,”
>>and were the most anti-Semitic people on this planet, thus
>>I can see how Desmond would find the Jews of Israel to
>>be the same as “the Nazis.” And thus, anyone who supports
>>the Jews of Israel, must also be a “Nazi Bastard” in HIS
>>EYES!.
>
>>He does not see calling someone a “Nazi Bastard” because
>>they insist that the Nazis are not legally innocent, or because
>>they support Jewish interests, as an ad hominem. He sees
>>it simply as _speaking the truth_. He firmly believes that
>>those who support the Jews, are _Nazi sympathizers_,
>>because he sees the Jews as _Nazis_.
>
>>7) And finally… how he has now swiftly changed his handle…
>>hoping that the stronger his lie… the more someone might
>>believe him. As his lie begins to unravel, his lie becomes
>>more sweeping. Now insisting on that lie in every post
>>he offers here. Hoping to garner support for his lie, simply
>>if he repeats it often enough. An attempt to bolster that lie
>>in a transparent effort to follow the rule that Lenin insisted
>>works… that the more the lie is repeated, the more that this
>>lie is believed. But no one believes Desmond any longer.
>
>>Because even by changing his handle… comes the admission
>>that he has been stung by this exposure that he is not Jewish.
>>He felt threatened in his lie here for so many years now
>>being exposed. So as usual… his reaction is simply to insist
>>all that harder that the lie… is not a lie, if repeated often
>>enough. The _denial of lying_ kicks in. Even the changing
>>of his handle, demonstrates just how desperate he is to
>>perpetuate that lie. Without it, he is exposed for what he
>>is… an anti-Semite who opposes every Jewish interest.
>>Someone who calls someone who support Jewish interests —
>>a “Nazi bastard,” because he sees those who do support
>>Jewish interests as _Nazi sympathizers_ for supporting
>>the Jews, who he sees as those “Nazis.” While, as usual,
>>in his effort to hide that lie… he adds “insult to injury” to
>>the Jews, by literally laughing in their face, making a joke
>>about a nonexistent claim to being Jewish, over and over
>>and over… with that insistent and repetitive sham of a lie.
>
>>But even that was not enough… Now comes his latest effort.
>>Not just a claim that he is Jewish, but a claim that he is one
>>of the victims of the holocaust! Now insisting over and over
>>that he wears a yellow star just as those victims of the
>>holocaust. In a final insult to those actual victims of the
>>holocaust. After hurling an insult at them, insisting they were
>>legally killed… he tries to cover himself with the same yellow
>>star that they were forced to endure. Hoping to use the
>>Nazi method of requiring every Jew in the holocaust to wear
>>such a yellow star.
>
>>And just as those Gestapo thugs operating the death camps and
>>the concentration camps, when the allies swept through them,
>>tried to put yellow stars on themselves, to pretend they were the
>>victims rather than the victimizers, Desmond hopes to pass
>>himself off as one of those Jewish victims, to hide the fact that
>>he is instead… the victimizer. Hoping to pose as a victim of the
>>holocaust… to cover up his lies.
>
>>What he has done is absolutely the worst insult ever offered in
>>AADP against the Jewish victims of the holocaust. Now trying
>>to _play the role of one of them_. To posture himself as BEING
>>one of those victims. No longer content with the lie that he is
>>Jewish… but now playing the role of a _drama queen_, hoping
>>to “milk” the holocaust for his own advantage. To have others
>>see him as one of the victim of the Nazi death camps. While
>>he has insisted that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing
>>any Jews.
>>Only a fool would accept his lie in claiming to be Jewish. But
>>fools are in season in AADP. While it is certain that either
>>Desmond or John Rennie is a liar… and I’ll put 1000 to 1
>>odds on it not being John.
>>Now… I suspect that Desmond is in a bit of a rage…
>>having been exposed as living a lie here… for so many years.
>>And accusing John Rennie of not honoring what Desmond
>>presumes is the _honor code of all liars_, to which Desmond
>>demands that John Rennie is _honor bound,_ to hide
>>Desmond’s lie.. Desmond expect that old _honor among
>>thieves_, to be valid for even those who are not thieves.
>>But in the end… Desmond is simply a liar.
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One Third of the Holocaust

Download this video!
http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=692
A 4 hour movie on the subject of Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec.

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Judea Declares War on Germany
1 hr 12 min 44 sec – Jul 16, 2006
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http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=690
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel
wartime propaganda?
This fascinating documentary investigates the myths surrounding
the legend.

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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos” wrote:

>The Accusations

> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.

> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm

> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.

> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”

> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-

KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer wrote:

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….

>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12

>The Kastner Case
>—————–

>Introduction

>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.

>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.

>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
>Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged “REFUGEES” from Israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!

>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as “REFUGEES”, to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha’Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.

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Notice that there has been a pleasant absence of the vile frothings of the
nazi Dezi Cohen, alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

Could it be that Paris welfare finally said to this criminal from the UK –
merde, vas y!!

>>From: Vishnu – destroyer of Nazi Coughlan’s support of the Shoah
>>
>>Newsgroups:
>>alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Re: Dezi gets Close + Personal With Noles Who Exposed Him as Nazi
>>-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:28:24 -0700
>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>References: <[email protected]>
>><[email protected]>

>>On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, “Philippe ‘Suffer the little children to come
>>onto me and give me a blowjob’ KKKoughlan ”
>>after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:

>>>https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
>>Oh, my… KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
>>Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more. The fight
>>is on… and the votes are now being cast. Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
>>hate the Jews more?

>>Think KKK doesn’t hate the Jews? Think again. This is just a short list
>>of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
>>the “innocence” (sic) of every Nazi —

>>His words — “The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
>>Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.” See —
>>http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
>>Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as “inhuman.”

>>His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution for those found
>>guilty of being Jewish’.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf
>>
>>His words — “even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man…” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
>>Insisting that Auschwitz was “more humane” than California. And one elder
>>murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.
>>
>>His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to refer to the legal execution
>>of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f
>>
>>His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal…” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6
>>
>>His words — “if it’s legal, it’s moral, Jed” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
>>Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews “legally inhuman” and MORAL
>>to kill six million of them.
>>
>>His words — “Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
>>on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631
>>
>>His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
>>Wiesenthal —
>>”At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
>>was a crime under international law.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
>>Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
>>KKK insists was the “murder by lynching” of Eichmann.
>>
>>In respect to the question — “Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?”
>>His words — “Isn’t there room for mercy ? For the sure knowledge that this
>>91-year- old man, isn’t in a position to harm anyone.”
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
>>And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi… because he insist it’s been
>>60 years.
>>
>>His words — “German society said that the extermination of the Jews
>>was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
>>Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
>>and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of “German society.”
>>He might as well have said — “Every German was a Nazi guard in an
>>Eastern European extermination camp.” Since his comment means
>>just the same. A large part of the German population of that time
>>might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
>>idea that “German society” supported the HOLOCAUST as a
>>”moral, legal, ethical thing to do,” is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
>>It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
>>made in AADP.
>>
>>His words — “In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
>>are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
>>In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
>>short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
>>than 25 years. The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
>>Treblinka was measured in minutes. Yet he insists that “morally and legally”
>>this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
>>making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
>>murderer.
>>
>>His words — “Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
>>matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
>>A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
>>for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles. In addition to
>>him claiming the Holocaust was moral. And concluding with that
>>obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
>>he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
>>his words — ” Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
>>for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
>>science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ.”
>>
>>Notice that he DARED to mention “human rights,” given the bloody
>>past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews. The persecution for
>>those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
>>Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
>>crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
>>Jews. All part of what he argued was the “bright beacon of morality”
>>in Europe during what he insists was “it’s Golden age of persecution
>>of the Jews.” Yeah… Americans are in awe and
>>insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
>>were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems and dispatching
>>them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years. Let’s all
>>give a big cheer for Jesus ‘motherfucker’ Christ…the name lent to
>>being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time… but
>>KKKoughlan’s hero.
>>
>>His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today — “yet by
>>milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
>>and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
>>A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
>>express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being
>>pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
>>is less than 150% pro-Jewish. Essentially insulting every Jew
>>living today.
>>
>>His words — “certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
>>justify their own excesses.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
>>His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
>>justify their own excesses.
>>
>>His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
>>which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is ‘just’, in
>>which case, so was the extermination of the Jews. See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
>>Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
>>ever witnessed in AADP. Since the proposition is only true if one equates
>>convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews. But looking beyond
>>that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
>>even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
>>Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be “just,” by his definition must also find
>>the Holocaust to have been “just.”
>>
>>His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
>>Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic — “However, it’s fatuous to claim that Europe
>>is ‘anti-Semitic’, based on the number of ‘anti-Semitic’ events that take
>>place. If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
>>anti-Semitic country on the planet.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
>>Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
>>and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.
>>
>>He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
>>Bernard, who referred to Israel as “that shitty little country.” In his
>>post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
>>and defended that perverse comment. One of his comments in
>>that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was — “Israel does not need to
>>kill children, to ensure its survival. Israel does not need to target the
>>innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival. Israel does
>>not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
>>ensure its survival. The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
>>long run, than they will help it. Sharon came to power on a security
>>’ticket’, and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
>>ensured the security of Israel and her citizens.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
>>Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
>>excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
>>innocent Jews. Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a “kill every
>>Jew” ticket. As he also admits he is “anti-Jewish government.”
>>
>>He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11. His
>>words — “I’d put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
>>attacks.” While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent. See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d
>>
>>Of course he also screamed in rage that — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
>>spagmerchant.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5
>>
>>But when it came to providing what he considered “proof” of him being
>>Jewish, he stated — “I don’t believe in God … but I was ‘born Jewish.’
>>See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6
>>
>> And how many here… even those who would call him a “friend,” have said they
>>believe he is Jewish? The answer is ZERO. Even when I cajole them for an
>>answer.
>>While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
>>Jewish. All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
>>”wears the yellow star” as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
>>even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
>>while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
>>using that handle. The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
>>the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
>>personal comic parody.
>>
>>And of course we have John Rennie’s comment regarding the personal
>>conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
>>His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here — “DESMOND
>>UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
>>JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
>>GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
>>NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
>>HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
>>
>>Planet Visitor II
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
>>
>>KKKoughlan’s words — “”send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to
>>give me a blowjob whenever I want one.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf
>>
>>Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan’s own feeling as to
>>who he considers a “CHILD.” If so, let me provide KKKoughlan’s own
>>words of who he feels is a “CHILD.” His words — “”the term ‘child’ isn’t
>>defined by you and your NRA buddies. It’s defined in international law,
>>and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928
>>
>>KKKoughlan… a self-admitted pedophile.

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On 1 Aug 2006 17:04:37 -0700, in ab.politics “[email protected]
wrote:

With the rising tide of anti-Jewish hostility in Europe getting so much
attention in recent years, it is somewhat surprising that an equally
worrisome trend across the Atlantic has gone largely unnoticed,
mounting anti-Semitism in Canada.

With 360,000 Jews, Canada is home to the fifth largest Jewish community
outside of Israel, and America’s northern neighbor has long prided
itself for its tolerance, openness, and freedom. But that legacy is now
under assault amid a spate of recent, and deeply troubling, incidents.

Over the past few, there have been many high profile anti-Semitic
incidents in Canada. Synagogues have been the targets of arson attacks,
Jewish day schools have received bomb threats, and there have been
numerous property crimes and hate propaganda directed against Jews and
their institutions. The most serious incident occurred in July of 2002,
when David Rosenzweig, an Orthodox Jew, was murdered outside a kosher
restaurant in Toronto by a neo-Nazi skinhead.

For a country that has spent the past two decades fostering
multiculturalism and decrying xenophobia, the spate of anti-Semitism in
Canada is especially disconcerting. The fact that it has received less
global attention than it deserves does not take away from the danger
which it poses to Canadian society and its democratic institutions.

One Jew was already murdered in the heart of Toronto because of his
identity. It is time for the Canadian government to step in and take a
firmer stand against anti-Semitism, before this age-old prejudice
claims any more victims.

Since Stephen Harper assumed the leadership of the new Conservative
Party of Canada, all of the progressive, centrist, practical, reasonable,
pluralistic policies held by the former Progressive Conservative Party of
Canada have been almost completely abolished from the new Conservative
Party of Canada. Furthermore, all socially moderate conservatives
such as Red Tories and Libertarians have been either silenced or purged
>from positions of power within the new Conservative Party of Canada; and
replaced with American style Conservatives who harbour racist, sexist,
homophobic, bigoted, recklessly populist, rigidly social conformist ideals.
Among those who have been card carrying members of the former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance in the past and who are either themselves
still members and/or have influential supporters currently within the
new Conservative Party of Canada seem to be many anti-Semites.

In particular, Stockwell Day, the former leader of the old Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance which has now more or less simply been
rebranded and repackaged as the new Conservative Party of Canada, has
come under suspicion for his past remarks. Charges that Stockwell Day
is an anti-Semite, or at least in the past promoted hostility to Jews,
continue to circulate. During the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
leadership race Stockwell Day tried to lay such allegations to rest.
Yet questions about Stockwell Day’s beliefs persist. Stockwell Day is
currently Canada’s Minister for Public Safety.

Stockwell Day has a past association with James Keegstra, a vile
holocaust denier and notorious anti-Semite. As a church school
principal and spokesman for the Alberta Association of Independent
Church Schools, Stockwell Day promoted a Christian fundamentalist
curriculum that included materials that denounced Jews, Muslims, and
the purported, “liberal-humanist fallacy of democratic government”. And
last but not least, there is the new Conservative Party of Canada
itself-its policies and origins and the people it attracts. The new
Conservative Party of Canada’s own predecessor, the Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance, frequently made racist, sexist,
homophobic, anti-feminist, anti-immigrant, anti-French Canadian,
anti-Quebec, anti-Ontario,anti-Atlantic Canadian,
remarks and blatently Anglo chauvinist appeals.

During the 2000 federal election campaign, the former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance had sought to depict the most impoverished and
marginalized section of Canada’s population, the native peoples, as a
“coddled minority”. Unlike the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance, the new
Conservative Party of Canada does not expressly call for a sharp cut in
immigration, but it suggests, even if its subtlety and by way of
remarks made by its backbench MPs, that the Liberals have been allowing
the wrong type of people into the country. Several former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance candidates during the 2000 federal election
campaign made even more blatant appeals to anti-immigrant prejudice.
Calgary Center MP Eric Lowther has said Canadians could use the Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance’s scheme for citizen-initiated referenda to
limit immigration. Betty Granger resigned as a Reform Party/Canadian
Alliance candidate in Winnipeg after she spoke of an “Asian invasion”
of Canada’s West Coast and accused Sri Lankan Tamil immigrants of using
Canada to support “terrorism”. Many of these vile, disgusting,
despicably racist comments from former Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
candidates beg the question: How many of these same candidates,
employees, and MPs both past and present are still actively involved
with the new Conservative Party of Canada?.

Neo-Nazi scumbag James Keegstra and his associate Jim Green, a fellow
anti-Semite and an official in the national Social Credit party,
attended prayer meetings led by current Conservative Party of Canada
foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day. Moreover, according to James
Keegstra, in 1983 and 1984 he and Stockwell Day had chats about
“freedom of speech issues” and James Keegstra’s own case.

In May 1983 the Tory Premier of Alberta, Peter Lougheed, felt it
necessary to deliver a prepared speech to the provincial legislature
that condemned James Keegstra’s views as “unequivocally racial,
religiously prejudiced, historically inaccurate and distorted.” He
pledged the province would undertake a review of the curriculum and
classroom monitoring to ensure “greater tolerance and respect for
minority groups.”

Reputedly, Stockwell Day first met James Keegstra in 1983, after James
Keegstra, who had been fired from his job at the Eckville public high
school, moved to Bentley so he could work as an auto mechanic. Earlier
this year, Green told freelance journalist Gordon Laird that Day “had
said he wanted to be one of the first ones in there when Keegstra
opened his garage.”

In Bentley, James Keegstra continued his fascist political activities.
He won election to the post of second vice-president for Alberta of the
national Social Credit Party and with Green founded the Christian
Defence League to raise founds for his battles with the Alberta
government and courts. In 1984, the arch neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel made the
pilgrimage to Bentley to solidarize himself with James Keegstra.

It might appear strange that someone like the new Conservative Party of
Canada’s foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day, who was involved in his
own struggle with the government and interested in making a career in
politics, did not take pains to disassociate himself from fascists scum
like James Keegstra and Jim Green. But anti-Semitism has long had a
popular base in rural Alberta, where it has fed off two distinct but
intertwined traditions,
that of extreme right-wing Protestant fundamentalism and extreme
right-wing populism.

>From 1935 to 1971, Alberta was ruled by a party that drew its name and
initial political inspiration from the doctrine of Social Credit.
“Bible Bill” Aberhart, the preacher who founded Alberta’s Social Credit
Party, made openly anti-Semitic speeches and, as a concession to
the social credit ideologues in his party, founded a government board
to disseminate social credit propaganda, principally populist and
anti-Semitic writings. In 1947-48, Aberhart’s successor as Alberta
premier, Ernest Manning (father of Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
Preston Manning), purged the party’s leadership of anti-Semites and
closed down the Social Credit Board. But anti-Semitic views continued
to circulate among the Social Credit periphery and feed into the
religious intolerance promoted by extreme right-wing Protestant
Fundamentalist sects, who exercised a great deal of power within the
party.

In 1980s Alberta, anti-Semitic views were not the exclusive preserve of
the remnants of the Social Credit party. One reason Alberta Premier
Lougheed publicly denounced James Keegstra was that one of his own Tory
MLAs had given a press interview in which he claimed he had never seen
“any evidence Jews were subject to mass extermination or even
persecuted under the Nazi regime”. This sort of vile, disgusting,
dispicable anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial is to be found within the
grassroots of the new Conservative Party of Canada’s Alberta faction.

Neo-Nazi scumbag trash James Keegstra is a product of rural Alberta’s
right-wing religious/political tradition. Stockwell Day, by contrast,
was drawn to Bentley, which has been called the buckle in Alberta’s
Bible belt, by his increasing commitment to religious fundamentalism.
While Stockwell Day reportedly disagreed with James Keegstra and Jim
Green about their virulent hatred of Jews, he gravitated to the very
milieu of fundamentalist religion and political reaction from which
they emerged. Moreover, Stockwell Day, whether because of sympathy or
political calculation, saw no reason to vigorously disassociate himself
>from ethier of this Neo-Nazi pigs. For their part, James Keegstra and
Jim Green continue to express admiration for Stockwell Day, thus
further underscoring that their parting, such as it was, was amicable.

Stockwell Day’s successful struggle to secure legal recognition for 15
unlicensed Christian schools, including his own Bentley Christian
Training School, helped precipitate his entry into party politics. In
this fight, Stockwell Day vigorously advocated before various
government bodies the Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) curriculum
prepared by the Texas-based School of Tomorrow. He even said that he
was prepared “to go to jail, if need be” to uphold the right of his
school to chose what it taught.

The ACE curriculum propagated the views of the American religious
right, and arguably its more extreme elements. The curriculum was
criticized by an Alberta government Committee on Tolerance and
Understanding as promoting “a degree of insensitivity towards blacks,
Jews and natives.” According to Ron Ghitter, the Committee’s chairman
and a Tory of Jewish decent, “ACE schools were schools of dogma …the
kids who came out had sort of a twisted Christianity with anti-Semitic
overtones.” Remember folks, the Conservative Party of
Canada’s Stockwell Day could become our next foreign minister!!!.

The ACE curriculum dismissed evolution and espoused “creation science.”
Science booklets instructed, “Not all sickness is caused by demons, but
some sickness is.”

Democracy was condemned, while Ian Smith, the prime minister of the
white minority-led Republic of Rhodesia, Ian Paisley, Northern
Ireland’s anti-Catholic demagogue, and Chilean military dictator
Augusto Pinochet were lauded. Democracy, declared an ACE publication,
“represent(s) the ultimate deification of man, which is the very
essence of humanism and totally alien to God’s word.”

Obviously, there is the difficulty of explaining how a man purportedly
free of antipathy to Jews simultaneously found himself keeping company
with virulent anti-Semites and fighting for the right to use a school
curriculum which included anti-Semitic materials. More fundamentally,
Stockwell Day’s defenders are most anxious that his fundamentalist
beliefs and the right-wing political tradition from which he emerges
not be made the object of public scrutiny, because they recognize the
vast majority of Canadians will find them abhorrent.

If not anti-Semitism per se, certainly intolerant attitudes toward
women, jews, gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, trangendered people,
aboriginals, and other historically marginal groups seem to be integral
both to the new Conservative Party of Canada and the
political-religious make-up of Stockwell Day and many others within the
party.

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On 15 Aug 2006 06:29:08 -0700, in alt.revisionism “GB”
wrote:

How Many Survivors Are There?
Studies counted on to allocate funds for the distressed are far apart
on the number.
Stewart Ain – Staff Writer

Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned.

Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors
worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found
688,000.

The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the
Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor
differences from his previous effort.

Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys.

Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to
distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy
survivors worldwide. The funds were obtained as part of a settlement
for unpaid Holocaust-era insurance claims against German and other
European companies.

Brooklyn Federal Judge Edward Korman, who is presiding over the $1.25
billion Swiss bank settlement, has been using the original Ukeles
survey to allocate money to needy Jewish survivors.

Both surveys found the highest percentage of Jewish survivors are
living in Israel. In his updated version, Ukeles reported the figure at
265,000, or 38.5 percent. Della Pergola put the number at 511,000, or
46.8 percent.

The numbers breakdown of where survivors are living:

The United States: Ukeles, 110,000 survivors, or 16 percent; Della
Pergola, 174,000, or 15.9 percent.

Europe: Ukeles, 126,000, or 18.3 percent; Della Pergola, 229,000, or 21
percent.

The former Soviet Union: Ukeles, 150,000, or 21.8 percent; Della
Pergola, 146,000, or 13.4 percent.

Other parts of the world: Ukeles, 38,000, or 5.5 percent; Della
Pergola, 32,000, or 2.9 percent.

The difference in the studies stems from the fact that Della Pergola
included as survivors Jews who lived in Arab countries – Morocco,
Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and Algeria – that passed anti-Jewish
laws. Ukeles did not.

Asked his reaction to the disparities, Ukeles said that since their
purpose is to determine allocations based on need, a new needs
assessment study might be in order.

In such a study in 2000 for the Claims Conference, Ukeles found 119,000
survivors in the former Soviet Union in need – almost double that of
any other area.

Gideon Taylor, executive vice president of the Claims Conference, said
his organization’s allocations committee would be meeting Monday to
vote on staff recommendations for the allocation of more than $50
million.

Taylor said the staff considered both the Della Pergola and Ukeles
studies, as well as recent needs studies performed in the United
States, Israel and the former Soviet Union. He said those studies would
soon be posted on his organization’s Web site.

Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the World Jewish Congress,
said despite the different number of survivors in the studies, the
percentage of Jews does not differ markedly except in Israel and the
former Soviet Union.

He said Della Pergola’s figures represent a “dramatic shift” in
populations that “call into question the basis on which distributions
have been made.”

Taylor stressed that both the Claims Conference and the World Jewish
Restitution Organization “can only act in an empirical manner” and
thus must base their allocations “on the most recent statistics and
on the basis of where the greatest needs are.”

The allocations committee of the Claims Conference will be submitting
its recommendations to its full membership in coming weeks. Steinberg
said the WJC, a member of the Claims Conference, would take into
consideration Della Pergola’s statistics when voting on the
committee’s recommendations.

Israel Singer, president of the Claims Conference, said that instead of
each organization determining on its own how best to allocate
settlement monies to needy survivors, there should be a “global,
coordinated strategy” in determining allocations. He said it should
apply to the insurance and Swiss bank settlements, as well as the
allocations from the Claims Conference.

Samuel Dubbin, an attorney for the Holocaust Survivors Foundation,
welcomed such a move. He said he is convinced that if there was a
global allocation, “there would be enough funds available to meet the
needs of survivors all over the world.”

Singer said he would be meeting shortly after Thanksgiving with Korman
to review the latest demographic statistics and to discuss the global
allocation idea.

“I’d love the judge to look at it and if he has to make allocations
earlier, it does not mean we can’t reassess our allocations based on
what he does,” Singer said.

Singer stressed that all of the settlements combined, along with money
the Claims Conference obtains from various sources, contains hundreds
of millions of dollars that together might meet the needs of survivors
for the next five years.

Any distribution plans that call for allocations beyond that time frame
should be shortened, he said.

“Survivors are dying at the rate of 15 percent a year,” Singer
said. “We should telescope the amount of time allocations are
made.”

In addition, Singer said the money must go directly to help survivors.
If the survivors have moved, they should still receive the money if
they are in need.

“The money should not be an entitlement for places but for
individuals,” he said.

At a meeting this week in Jerusalem, the executive committee of the
Claims Conference decided to press the German government to provide
funds for homecare for Holocaust survivors in need worldwide.

Dubbin pointed out that the Association of Jewish Family and
Children’s Services Agencies in 2002 estimated that a minimum of $30
million is needed annually to care for needy survivors in the United
States.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774

All this quvatch about the ZYDs, but no concern for the many MORE
MILLIONS of Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, German people killed!!

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Pointless to continue trying to present the facts on Wikipedia.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Why is Wikipedia Censoring Me?

by James Bacque

In 1989, I published the first in a series of books about the Second
World War and its aftermath. The first, Other Losses, showed the
tremendous atrocities committed against enemy prisoners in the prison
camps of the US and France after 1945. The next, Just Raoul, was a
biography of a hero of the French Resistance who saved many refugees
>from Nazi death camps. The next, Crimes and Mercies, described the
full extent of all allied crimes against Germans, plus the wonderful
charity work of Canada and the USA in saving 800 million people,
including Germans, Japanese and Italians, from starving to death in
the hungry years after 1945. The next, Dear Enemy, illuminated the
attitudes of the western allies to Germany from 1945 to now.

Wikipedia reviews and criticizes only Other Losses, and in such a
biassed way, that I finally tried to correct their many errors.
Starting in March, 2006, I tried repeatedly over many weeks to correct
the errors, but found that within a day at first, then within hours,
and finally within minutes, some Wikipedian editor had expunged my
corrections, replacing them with ever more hostile and denigrating
allegations. Friends of mine tried also to correct the flawed
Wikipedia article, but found the same situation. Finally we decided
that Wikipedia was deliberately censoring my contributions, and that
it was pointless to continue trying to present the facts on Wikipedia.
After Serendipity (already acquainted with censorship at Wikipedia)
heard of this situation I was offered the chance to publish the real
story, which appears below.

Wikipedia quotes Stephen E. Ambrose as saying that Other Losses is
“… spectacularly flawed …” without saying that Ambrose also wrote
that “You have made a major historical discovery which will … span
the oceans and have reverberations for decades, yea centuries to come.
You have the goods on these guys …”

Wikipedia does not say that Ambrose changed his mind only after he was
retained by the US Army to lecture at the War College in Pennsylvania.
Nor does Wikipedia mention that in his attack on me in the New York
Times, he admitted that he had not done the necessary research to
reach the conclusions that he published in that same article.
Wikipedia fails to mention that the Ambrose it cites as an authority
admitted that he had plagiarized several other authors. Wikipedia does
not concern itself with the accusations that Ambrose stole work from a
graduate student which he published as his own.

Wikipedia ignores my book, Crimes and Mercies, which goes far towards
balancing the record of western actions after World War Two. The book
shows the great charity extended by the western allies, chiefly Canada
and the USA, towards the starving around the world after WW2,
including the Japanese and Germans. Saying that the overwhelming
majority of professional historians reject my work, and citing as an
authority one historian who has never worked in this field, Wikipedia
ignores the support given me by the eminent US Army military historian
Col. Dr. Ernest F. Fisher, a former Senior Historian of the US Army
Center for Military History, Washington. Fisher, a professional
historian for decades, wrote the official US Army history of the
campaign in Italy. He assisted me for months in researching documents
in the US National Archives, wrote the Introduction to my book Other
Losses, and has supported me with public statements for the seventeen
years since its first publication. He helped me for many months
researching in the archives.

Wikipedia does not mention the expert editing, research help and
public support given me by the eminent epidemiologist and
biostatistician, Dr Anthony B. Miller, former head of the Department
of Biostatistics at the University of Toronto.

Wikipedia also casts aside the support given my work by Richard Overy,
King’s College, University of London; Otto Kimminich, University of
Regensburg; Dr Alfred De Zayas, author of many books on postwar German
history; Prof. Dr. Peter Hoffmann, McGill University, author of the
most expert books on the German resistance; Prof. J. K. Johnson,
Carleton University, Ottawa; Professor Ralph Raico, University of
Buffalo; Prof. Ed Peterson, University of Wisconsin; Prof Ralph Scott,
University of Iowa; Prof. Pierre Van Den Berghe, University of
Seattle; Prof. Dr Richard Mueller, former head, Department of English,
University of Aachen; Prof. Hans Koch, University of York and many
others.

Among writers who have approved my work and supported me are Julian
Barnes; Nikolai Tolstoy; John Fraser, Master of Massey College,
Toronto; John Bemrose of Toronto; Robert Kroetsch, Winnipeg; and many
others. My work has been published around in the world in ten
languages by Macmillan, Little, Brown, Prima, Ullstein, Editions Sand,
McClelland and Stewart, New Press, and many many others.

Finally, the most glaring omission is that the massive and detailed
KGB Archives in Moscow have millions of documents whose evidence
completely confirms the statistical work in Other Losses. The math is
simple: about 1.5 million German prisoners alive in allied prison
camps at the end of the war never came home, nor were their deaths
reported to the German government, their families, the International
Red Cross or the UN. The figure was determined by the Adenauer
government in Germany, submitted to the UN, and has never been
disputed by anyone. Thus when Other Losses came out in 1989, alleging
deaths of about one million in French and American camps, that left
about 500,000 to be accounted for. They could have died only in the
KGB camps, because there were not half a million prisoners in any
other camps in the world. Thus, in effect Other Losses was predicting
that when the communists opened the KGB archives, they would show
deaths of about 500,000. And lo and behold, when Gorbachev brought
down the communist rule, and the archives were opened, I went there,
and found the Bulanov Report which showed that 356,687 Germans died in
Soviet captivity, plus another 93,900 civilians taken as substitutes
for dead or escaped prisoners for a total of 450,587.

This astonishing discovery is not mentioned in Wikipedia, nor by any
other of the “professional historians.” Except one, Stefan Karner, who
went to the KGB archives, saw the evidence piled up in enormous
quantities, and said he did not believe it. Instead, he preferred to
publish his own “estimates,” which confirm the conventional view.

*
Information about books written by James Bacque may be found on his
website World War 2 Books.

*
http://serendipity.li/hr/bacque_on_wikipedia.htm

panPiotrGlownia wrote:
> Could it be that Wikipedia is taking orders from the Christkillers,
> who want only THEIR version of history promoted?

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On 29 Aug 2006 11:46:41 -0700, in can.politics “Russ” wrote:

JEWISH CRIME

“Of all the areas of Jewish enterprise,” notes Gerald Krafetz, “none
has been so overlooked as the field of crime. And it isn’t because of
a lack of Jewish criminality. For an introspective people, this
oversight is significant. It is as if Jewish crime did not exist, an
unsavory skeleton is best left in the family closet … The
sociopathology of Jews is not an acceptable notion since it runs
counter to both religious precepts and preconceived ideas that Jews
have of themselves.” [KREFETZ, p. 112] “Jews were … involved in many
of the most visible and spectacular frauds of the post-Civil War
period,” notes Benjamin Ginsberg, “as well as in economic dislocations
and financial manipulations that characterize the era.” [GINSBERG, p.
75] In one much publicized scandal for instance, the Jewish governor
of South Carolina, Franklin Moses, oversaw the issue and selling of $6
million in fraudulent state securities, as well as funneling hundreds
of thousands of dollars in public funds into his own pocket.
[GINSBERG, p. 75]

In a broader financial sphere, very visibly at the top of the socio-
economic pyramid, Jewish businessman Joseph Seligman’s nefarious
activities in the late 1800s helped to create the infamous “Black
Friday” stock market crash. Benjamin Ginsberg notes that the crash

“ruined thousands of investors, implicated President Grant, and led to
a Congressional investigation of [Jay] Gould and Seligman …
Similarly, in the early 1890s, Jacob Schiff collaborated with E. H.
Harriman in the latter’s attempts to wrest control of the Northern
Pacific Railroad from J. P. Morgan and James Hill … When the price
of the Northern Pacific Stock collapsed, the entire market crashed in
the notorious ‘Black Thursday’ panic that led to a nationwide economic
depression.” [GINZBURG, p. 73]

In 1885 the French-based project to build the Panama Canal collapsed,
resulting in financial scandal that led, in part, to Seligman again.

“Both the United States Congress and the French Parliament had
inquiries,” says Ginsberg, “In both countries major Jewish financiers
were implicated: Baron Jacques de Reinach in Paris and Joseph Seligman
in the United States. Many shareholders lost everything, but Seligman
lost nothing. In contemporary parlance, the Seligmans engaged in
influence peddling, insider trading, and corporate asset stripping and
looting — all at the expense of credulous investors.” [GINZBURG, p.
74] The French end of the Panama Canal scandals, notes Albert
Lindemann, “involved large amounts of French capital and threatened
national prestige — and Jewish agents were deeply involved. The
intermediaries between the Panama company and parliament were almost
exclusively Jews with German names and backgrounds, some of whom tried
to blackmail one another.” [LINDEMANN, p. 87]

continued at
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/09crime.htm

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On 12 Aug 2006 11:22:59 -0700, in can.politics “AlX”
wrote:

The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist – tho many
Jews are not willing to live there – is as a refuge for Jewish
fugitives from around the world. If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
Israel, he is home free. Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
other country to face criminal charges – not even to the U.S.
without whose support Israel would not even exist.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721

Jacob “Kobi” Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
$57 million of ill-gotten gains.

As todays New York Times reports:

New York – Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.

In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
to be distributed to favored employees.

The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
issued for his arrest.

Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
extensive business operations.

In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
prosecutors have asked to be frozen.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php

(End of quote)

Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
attacks on 9/11.

Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad’s
involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:

At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
of lives.

Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
nationality.

Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo’s vice president,
reportedly said, “It was possible that the attack warning was
broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
reports of other recipients of the message.”

The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
matter. There have been no media reports since.

Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad’s
headquarters are located.

Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider
trading.”

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985

Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
>from justice. Why didn’t the police arrest him before he was able to
get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white “Whip”
wrote:

“JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS” IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, “disappeared” in the
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk. their burnt bodies have been found in
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

“I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination”, he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor
overweight among the jury.

“The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without
burial”, Mr Nazarov said.

“And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who … copies American gangstes
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs,
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin”, Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

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On 9 Sep 2006 03:12:09 -0700, in de.soc.politik.misc “news”
wrote:

An incredible, shocking and horrific report is coming out of New York
City concerning male baby fellatio, genital mutilation and the
infection with “herpes” of three infants by a Jewish Rabbi. City of New
York health officials are investigating the death of a baby boy who was
one of three infants infected with Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 that
exists predominantly in the mouths of homosexuals.

The practice called “metzitzah b’peh” by Jews is routinely practiced
on Jewish baby boys and may explain their sexual dysfunctions later in
adult life. Many adult male Jews are “mother fixated” and exhibit a
preponderance of homosexual and feminine characteristics. They are
being “shocked” out of their masculinity as infants by the ancient and
bizarre practices of Jewish Rabbis. It is not yet known what percentage
of Jewish males go through the horror.

The case was made public after the New York Health Department filed a
complaint in the Manhattan Supreme Court against the Rabbi Yitzhok
Fischer. The rabbi had performed “metzitzah b’peh” on twin baby boys
last October. A few days later one died of herpes and the other tested
positive for the virus. The health department later found a third baby
with the Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 that the rabbi had “sucked his
penis”.

This incredible but true report is now casting doubts on the “medical”
practice of circumcision which is unnecessary, Jewish inspired, and
amounts to nothing less than “male genital mutilation.” There are now a
vast number of medical studies that prove that males grow up healthier
and perform better sexually when their penises are left intact. The
“circumcising” of Gentile baby boys is essentially “Judaizing” them for
life.

http://www.aztlan.net/metzitzah_b_peh.htm

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On 2 Nov 2006 08:10:23 -0800, in soc.culture.australian “Venceremos”
wrote:

Holocaust is Nothing But A HoloHoax

Every day, in every aspect of the media, you will be reminded of the
holocaust of World War II and the damage it did to one group of people.
You are supposed to feel guilty and excuse away anything these people,
who are portrayed as the only victims, now do to society. You are not
to mention others, such as the Poles, Russians and Gypsies who suffered
equally if not more, for that would detract from the lie with which the
rest of humanity is being burdened. Sure, terribly evil things happen
in war, but it is even more terrible to allow lies to be embellished
and used to promote guilt, misunderstanding, blackmail and more evil.
Sooner or later, there will be a worldwide confrontation arising from
this deceit, and the liars will come off second best. It is for this
reason I have reproduced a section of one of our books here:

Alan Dershowitz believes that all American Jews should think of
themselves as victims of the Holocaust; his rationale is that they were
ultimately targets of the Holocaust. But, the Holocaust is even bigger
than that to the Zionists; they want everyone to believe that all wrong
is done to the Jews, and no wrong is done by the Jews. And, there is a
reason for this.

Robert Faurisson observes,

“Elie Wiesel won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. He is generally
accepted as a witness to the Jewish ‘Holocaust,’ and, more
specifically, as a witness to the legendary Nazi extermination gas
chambers….”

But in what respect is Elie Wiesel a witness to the alleged gas
chambers? By what right does he ask us to believe in that means of
extermination? In an autobiographical book that supposedly describes
his experiences at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, he nowhere mentions the
gas chambers. He does indeed say that the Germans executed Jews,
but…by fire; by throwing them alive into flaming ditches, before the
very eyes of the deportees! No less than that! Here Wiesel the false
witness had some bad luck.

Forced to choose from among several Allied war propaganda lies, he
chose to defend the fire lie instead of the boiling water, gassing, or
electrocution lies. In 1956, when he published his testimony in
Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in certain circles. This lie is
the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no longer a single
historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The myths of the
boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared. Only the gas
remains.

* The gassing lie was spread by the Americans.

* The lie that Jews were killed by boiling water or steam (specifically
at Treblinka) was spread by the Poles.

* The electrocution lie was spread by the Soviets.”

Yes, these are all Holocaust lies.

“The fire lie is of undetermined origin. It is in a sense as old as war
propaganda or hate propaganda, just like the false assertion of human
(Jewish) skin being used to make lamp shades. In his memoir, Night,
which is a version of his earlier Yiddish testimony, Wiesel reports
that at Auschwitz there was one flaming ditch for the adults and
another one for babies. He writes: ‘Not far from us, flames were
leaping from a ditch, gigantic flames. They were burning something. A
lorry drew up at the pit and delivered its load – little children.
Babies! Yes, I saw it – saw it with my own eyes…those children in
the flames.'”

None of this ever happened. And, yet, such lies have earned Wiesel the
Nobel Peace Prize, and made it “anti-Semitic” and even illegal to
simply tell the truth about the Holocaust.

Why have lies superseded truth? And, more specifically, who benefits
>from the lie? As we have observed, every lie in the evil
Zionist-controlled system is designed to exploit; every lie keeps
Yahweh’s system of evil securely in place. In this world, everything of
value is offered up to Yahweh by the Zionists, as a “burnt offering.”

“Holocaust” means burnt offering; it is the perpetuation of the
illusion and the elevation of the lie to the level of supreme truth,
religiously.

The fact is, the Holocaust is about money, legitimacy for Israel, and
the total denial of any moral failings (or evilness) in the Jewish
people. Jews are outraged when it is mentioned that many gypsies and
Russians suffered the same fate as Jews, because to compare a
sub-human to a Jew is unspeakable. The Jewish scripture declares that
the life of a Jew is the most priceless thing to “god” and the life of
a non-Jew or “goy” is worthless. The Jews have a history of crying
“holocaust.”

The Talmud cites examples of many billions of Jews being killed
(including children being burned). Needless to say, there have never
been that many Jews on the face of the earth. The same falsification
and embellishment is true with regard to the “holocaust” of World War
II. Many Jews died, but not the six million that is claimed. Perhaps a
million died, none from gas chambers. Red Cross documentation which
Jewish controllers refuse to release, is suspected of suggesting that
some 100,000 were lost.

As historian David Irving and many others have rightly observed, there
never were gas chambers at the concentration camps. And, it would have
been impossible for the Germans to have gassed and then burned 12,000
Jews every day. Reports by concentration camp survivors that tell of
the guards going into “gas chambers” as soon as one batch of Jews had
been killed, clearing out the bodies, and then filling the room again
are patently false – the guards (none of whom was reported to have
worn a mask) would have instantly died, since cyanide does not
dissipate or disappear in a few minutes.

Also, there would have been bones and ashes to show, with cyanide
residue. None of this is found. Even the Auschwitz Memorial which once
stated that six million Jews had died now states that perhaps a million
died. The plaque has been altered from six to one million. That being
said, even a million dead people is a lot.

The degree of suffering they experienced, and the treatment they
received from hateful, evil Nazis was a fact. Yet, that does not excuse
all of the evils and wrongs committed by the victors, who fire-bombed
civilian populations in Germany and Japan, and dropped atomic bombs on
cities in Japan, before ending the war. The intentional massacring of
millions of civilians by the Allied victors was certainly a war crime,
and perhaps of larger impact than what happened to the Jews.

War is a terrible thing, and though it is an unwritten and unspoken
policy, civilian populations are targeted and slaughtered in the worst
way, to weaken the morale of the opposition. War is not just fought by
soldier against soldier, with some kind of boundary against civilians.

Yet, it is always the victors who write the history; they are always in
the right, and the losers are always in the wrong. War is not black and
white, truth is its first casualty, and what is written in history and
in the news has little correlation with the truth.

Jewish bankers funded the Nazis, and the Zionists fiercely pressured
Western nations to keep Jews from being able to leave Germany before
the war began. For perverse political and economic reasons, the
Zionists did not want the Jews to go to free nations, but rather had
the single-minded objective of claiming Palestine as the Jewish
state. Because they could not force the creation of Israel before the
war, they readily sacrificed the lives of their “lesser brethren” for
the “greater cause”: Israel.

There are many people who hold that all major wars in the last few
centuries have been instigated by, funded by, and profited by, the
Zionist international bankers.

* First, they instigate wars.

* Then, during the war, they loan huge sums of money, and make enormous
profits in their military-industrial production.

* After the war, they buy up property and industry at pennies on the
dollar in the loser nations.

This policy of economic conquest is not only a factor in war; it is how
the everyday economy operates, worldwide, today.

* The Zionists control the economies, governments, and
agreements/conflicts between major nations.

* They control the daily economy, inflation, and deflation.

* They engaged in economic war in creating the Great Depression in the
US, in which they obtained vast amounts of property and business by
foreclosing on mortgages and debt.

* And, they have plundered the resources of Third World nations, via
the issuance of debt (loans) which cannot be paid back due to usurious
interest rates.

We need to understand that nothing in this world “just happens,”
especially not global events. Everything has a reason and a purpose
behind it. There are forces that control all that happens in this
world, and there is an unseen “shadow government.” It uses the masses
or “sheep” as cannon fodder during war, and to gain sympathy and
financial aid.

We are told that we cannot forget the Holocaust, though we dismiss all
other genocide that has occurred to all other racial groups throughout
history. Why is that?

* Why is there no public relations action to memorialize the millions
of Whites who were slaughtered in the slave business;

* Wy is there no mention of the millions of Cambodians – nearly half
their population – who were slaughtered by Pol Pot; or the twenty
million Russians killed in World War II?

* Why is it that what happens to these other groups doesn’t seem to
matter? For the answer, we need to only look to Jewish propaganda and
scriptural dogma: the life of a Jew matters, only a Jew is a human
being; the non-Jews do not matter, their lives are worthless. The
media are controlled by the Zionists, and because most of them are
Jewish they are greatly invested in the story of the Jews. They readily
promote fiction over fact, the lie over the truth in all other areas,
so why not in this area – in which they have such strong emotional
and financial interest?

Contradicting the Holocaust lies is illegal in some countries (called
an act of racial hatred and vilification, defaming the dead, and
anti-Semitism). The media quickly label any less than glorifying
truth about the Jews as anti-Semitism. And, this, more than anything,
has given the evil Zionists the greatest cover and freedom from public
scrutiny.

They are able to go about their agenda of world domination and control
with immunity from media attention. If you doubt this, just check to
see the last time the Rothschilds and Rockefellers headed the Forbes
list of richest people in the world. Rather than holding down the top
spots due to their enormous and cunningly concealed wealth, they are
not even on the list.

The media refuse to acknowledge the power, wealth, authority, and
control that the Zionists truly have in this world, because if they
did, then some attention would be directed their way when people
discuss what is wrong with this world – and why. They have set things
up, and controlled things so well, that they never receive this bad
publicity. Instead, they portray themselves as philanthropists and
benefactors of all mankind – whom they think of as animals, and
gladly sacrifice as “burnt offerings” to their blood-thirsty and evil
“god” Yahweh (Jehovah).

The Nazis allowed a ship full of Jews to leave Germany, to see if
another country would be willing to accept Jewish refugees. But, every
country, including the United States, refused to let the passengers
disembark. Because of this worldwide Zionist policy of refusing to
accept Jews anywhere – because of their desire to claim Israel as the
homeland of the Jews – many Jews were sacrificed for the political
Zionist cause. The shipload of Jews was forced to return, sacrificed as
another burnt offering to the greater glory of Yahweh.

H.G. Wells noted,

“Zionism is an expression of Jewish refusal to assimilate. If the Jews
have suffered, it is because they have regarded themselves as a chosen
people.”

The Zionist leaders of the Jewish community have repeatedly,
historically, ensured the suffering of their lesser brethren. It is
they who have sacrificed the good and innocent among the Jews,
willingly, consciously, methodically, so that they could implement
their own, self-serving, evil agenda. (Holocaust Fact and Fiction
Presented by: Annwn Publications P O Box 28 Malanda, QLD, Australia,
4885)

If you want proof that I am right, just watch the jews have a fit about
these posts; because if the lies that they have fostered about the
HoloHoax were true then they would finance any and all reputable
scientists to examine all records and evidence; they would have
absolutely no problem with anyone examining the evidence. But because
it is a lie and a Hoax they deny anyone, if they can, who tries to do
research on the subject. Therefore, by their own denials they prove
that it was a Hoax.

There have been many terrible “Holocausts.” The worst I know of is the
50 million plus Russians murdered by the Communists who ruled Russia
(the Soviet Union).

Forty years previously (to 1917 Bolshevik Revolution) Dostoevsky had
predicted that Socialism would cost Russia one hundred million victims.
At the time it seemed an improbable figure. Let me recommend the
British press to acquaint its readers with the impartial three-page
report of the Russian statistician, Professor Ivan Kurganov. It was
published in the West twelve years ago, but, as is so often the case
with matters of social significance, we only take cognizance of things
that do not run counter to our own feelings.

>From Professor Kurganov’s analysis we learn that if Dostoevsky erred,
he erred on the side of understatement. From 1917 to 1959 Socialism
cost the Soviet Union a hundred and ten million lives! (These “lives”
were for the most part Christians.) (A. Solzhenitsyn, “The West’s
Betrayal of Civilization”, p. 5-6, a B.B.C. address, March 26, 1976)

This is a really big time “Holocaust” if numbers make a difference.
Why is it that we never see anything about this “Holocaust” in any
mainstream media, TV or Hollywood movie?

The next biggest “Holocaust” I know about is the one that occurred in
Mao’s Red China. My 1990 “Guinness Book of World Records” states on p.
367 that during the regime of Mao Tse-tung (1949-1965) between
32.25 and 61.7 were “killed by government forces” according to an
estimate by the US Senate Judiciary Committee. I have seen estimates
much larger than this. “Killed by government forces” must leave out
many millions who starved as a direct result of insane Communist
policies such as the “Great Leap Forward’ during which many skilled
farmers were herded into “steel mills” where they “produced” prodigious
amounts of steel by melting tools, impalements, kettles, pots, pans,
etc. into “steel.” The resulting famine due to a great shortage of
farmers caused the deaths of many millions of Chinese people not
“killed by government forces.” So how many people were murdered by the
Communists in the Red Chinese “Holocaust.” No one knows for sure, but
it was many times 6 million. Again, this is never mentioned in the
mainstream media, or wept over in TV programs or Hollywood movies. The
32.25 to 61.7 million (plus many millions more) are forgotten dead.

It is estimated that over 40,000,000 (that’s FORTY MILLION!) unborn
children have been killed by abortion “Doctors” in the US since Roe v.
Wade. (1973) Now that’s a real HOLOCAUST, but not one wept over by TV,
Hollywood, etc. The media only emphasizes a “woman’s right to choose.”

It horrifies me even to contemplate how many more children have been
killed by abortionists in numerous other countries.

At least 9 million German people died from starvation, exposure, etc.
after the Russian armies drove them out of their homes in Germany’s
eastern provinces at the end of World War II.

After the Germans surrendered to the Allies in May of 1945, millions of
German soldiers were rounded up and enclosed in barbed wire camps.
They were called “disarmed enemy forces.” This meant to Eisenhower and
his bosses (Roosevelt, Morgenthau, and Truman (all jews), etc.) and his
men who imprisoned these DEF’s that they did not have to abide by the
Geneva convention since they were not POW’s. I have pictures of
hundreds of thousands of these men in a barbed wire enclosure, standing
room only. Family members of these men would come with food and water
but were driven away by allied soldiers with machine guns. How long can
human beings live in such unsheltered enclosures in mud up to their
knees with no food, water, shelter, etc?

Of course, not long. Between one and two million German men died in
these vast mud pits. Have you ever seen a story about this real
holocaust on TV, Hollywood movies, etc? No. This holocaust is
forgotten!

Many Germans, Eastern Europeans, self-styled “Jews” and Gypsies were
severely mistreated and died in Nazi Germany. Many inmates in the Nazi
work camps died of starvation, typhus, and other diseases. It is very
difficult to transport food when everything that moves is bombed. It is
difficult to provide clean drinking water when all water purification
plants have been bombed with the idea in mind of causing the very
spread of disease that occurred. Did the greedy industrialists
profiting from these work camps want their labor force to die or be
“gassed.” Not if what I have read about their type has any validity.

However, if numbers make any difference to you in regards to the
“Holocaust” that is “never forgiven” and “never forgotten,” and is
repeatedly shown in detail in countless TV shows and Hollywood movies
and mentioned on at least a weekly basis in mainstream newspapers and
magazines please read on.

Six Million Jews: Ministers often repeat the Jew story that “Hitler
killed six million Jews,” yet the 1939 World Almanac shows
15,688,259 Jews in the world, and nine years later the New York Times
reported there were between 15,600,000 and 18,700,000 Jews! If Hitler
killed 6 million, how come there were no less in 1948 than in 1939? The
same sources report the Jews in Germany in 1938, prior to the supposed
killings, totaled only 550,000 (½ million)!

If Germans killed 38% of all the Jews in the world, does that mean the
9,688,259 left had six to nine million children in the next nine years?
It takes normal populations 100 years to double-how come “Jews” did
it in nine? AND THEN NEVER DID IT AGAIN? (the present world population
of “Jews” is about the same as it was in 1948) Why do ministers
repeat this Jewish propaganda lie to their flocks? [An Open Letter to
Any Minister Who Teaches “the Jews Are Israel.” By Pastor Sheldon
Emery, (written after 1976, © date not given)]

Yes, there have been many Holocausts. I do not deny that. I sorrow over
these holocausts more than most people I know. I work to prevent
current and future holocausts knowing that “those who do not remember
the past are condemned to repeat it.”

(Winston Palmer)

More Jewish Lies Exposed!

For more than fifty years, since the end of World War II, the Talmudic,
Zionist Jews have sought to manipulate through Jewish Socialization,
White Western public opinion by crying, “Poor, persecuted Jew,” while
systematically victimizing White Christian culture.

This constitutes a perfect description of the Jewish Socialization or
Jewish Socialism. Both atheistic, Jewish, Socialism and atheistic,
Communist, Socialism are ideas predicated upon the practice of
engineering society along atheistic and Jewish ideas. This has been the
method of operation of the atheistic, Talmudic, Zionist Jew even before
the first century or the time of Christ.

Truth at Last: Israeli history textbooks are now being rewritten,
reports Ethan Bronner in “The New York Times” (August 14, 1999) as
a new generation of historians are replacing myths with facts about the
nation’s founding.

“Schoolchildren have long been taught that Jews have always been
surrounded by enemies and that their victory over five Arab states in
the 1948 War of Independence was a new miracle of David-and-Goliath
proportions.”

The Times reports.

“But…now officially approved textbooks make plain that many of the
most common Israeli beliefs are as much myth as fact. The new books
say, for example, that it was the Israelis who had the military edge in
the War of Independence.”

They admit that Palestinians did not voluntarily leave their land, as
has been taught, but that they were expelled by Israeli soldiers. One
ninth grade text, “Passage To The Past,” mentions the 1948 massacre
carried out by radical Zionist forces in the village of Deir Yassin.
This is from a report of The American Council for Judaism, December 99.
In the Councils publication, “Issues,” is the surprising admission
that “the rise of the Holocaust to the top of the Jewish agenda was
by no means a spontaneous development” but rather the “consequence
of decisions made by communal leaders in response to their appraisals
of current communal needs” meaning the need for support for Israel,
as pointed out further in the article:

The article states,

“Examples of how the Holocaust has been used as a weapon to promote
policies favorable to Israel are extensive.”

Yet to be published by the Council is the fact that the 6 million
figure is a myth, invented in 1945 by Llya Ehrenburg, Stalins Jewish
propaganda chief during World War II. Since then the figures have been
systematically reduced:

(1) May 7, 1945: The Soviet Jewish anti-Fascist Committee announced
that the number gassed at Auschwitz was 4,00,000;

(2) September 1, 1998: Director of Holocaust studies, Yeduha Bauer of
Yad Vashem, Holocaust Center at Jerusalem, set the number of deaths at
Auschwitz at 1,600,000;

(3) 1989: Professor Raul Hilberg, Professor of Holocaust Studies in Tel
Aviv, Israel, lists the Auschwitz total at 1,250,000;

(4) July, 1990: Polish Historians replaced the plaque at Auschwitz with
a new one stating that those who died of all causes and of all
nationalities is 1,100,000; and

(5) In 1991: Mikhail Gorbachev opened the KBG archives and gave
Elizabeth Dole the complete official German register of all deaths,
which totaled 74,000. No gas chamber for the extermination of humans
has ever been found at any camp.

The Jew Eisenhower’s Holocaust!

“God, I hate the Germans…” (Dwight David Eisenhower in a letter to
his wife in September, 1944)

First, I want you to picture something in your mind. You are a German
soldier who survived through the battles of World II. You were not
really politically involved, and your parents were also indifferent to
politics, but suddenly your education was interrupted and you were
drafted into the German army and told where to fight. Now, in the
Spring of 1945, you see that your country has been demolished by the
Allies, your cities lie in ruins, and half of your family has been
killed or is missing. Now, your unit is being surrounded, and it is
finally time to surrender. The fact is, there is no other choice.

It has been a long, cold winter. The German army rations have not been
all that good, but you managed to survive. Spring came late that year,
with weeks of cold rainy weather in demolished Europe. Your boots are
tattered, your uniform is falling apart, and the stress of surrender
and the confusion that lies ahead for you has your guts being torn out.
Now, it is over, you must surrender or be shot. This is war and the
real world.

You are taken as a German Prisoner of War into American hands. The
Americans had 200 such Prisoner of War camps scattered across Germany.
You are marched to a compound surrounded with barbed wire fences as far
as the eye can see. Thousands upon thousands of your fellow German
soldiers are already in this make-shift corral. You see no evidence
of a latrine and after three hours of marching through the mud of the
spring rain, the comfort of a latrine is upper-most in your mind. You
are driven through the heavily guarded gate and find yourself free to
move about, and you begin the futile search for the latrine. Finally,
you ask for directions, and are informed that no such luxury exists.

No more time. You find a place and squat. First you were exhausted,
then hungry, then fearful, and now; dirty. Hundreds more German
prisoners are behind you, pushing you on, jamming you together and
every one of them searching for the latrine as soon as they could do
so. Now, late in the day, there is no space to even squat, much less
sit down to rest your weary legs. None of the prisoners, you quickly
learn, have had any food that day, in fact there was no food while in
the American hands that any surviving prisoner can testify to. No one
has eaten any food for weeks, and they are slowly starving and dying.
But, they can’t do this to us! There are the Geneva Convention rules
for the treatment of Prisoners of War. There must be some mistake! Hope
continues through the night, with no shelter from the cold, biting
rain.

Your uniform is sopping wet, and formerly brave soldiers are weeping
all around you, as buddy after buddy dies from the lack of food, water,
sleep and shelter from the weather. After weeks of this, your own hope
bleeds off into despair, and finally you actually begin to envy those
who, having surrendered first manhood and then dignity, now also
surrender life itself. More hopeless weeks go by. Finally, the last
thing you remember is falling, unable to get up, and lying face down in
the mud mixed with the excrement of those who have gone before.

Your body will be picked up long after it is cold, and taken to a
special tent where your clothing is stripped off. So that you will be
quickly forgotten, and never again identified, your dog-tag is
snipped in half and your body along with those of your fellow soldiers
are covered with chemicals for rapid decomposition and buried. You were
not one of the exceptions, for more than one million seven hundred
thousand German Prisoners of War died from a deliberate policy of
extermination by starvation, exposure, and disease, under direct orders
of the Jewish General Dwight David Eisenhower.

One month before the end of World War 11, General Eisenhower issued
special orders concerning the treatment of German Prisoners and
specific in the language of those orde