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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: McVay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal Engaged in MONEY LAUNDERING & RICO – Repost
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:55:06 -0700, in can.general Frank Arthur
Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
Proof!
Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.
With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!
Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
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Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
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Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
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Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
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http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
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Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
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Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
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(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Re: Edmonton Canada = Unsafe, Filthy, Corrupt
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:45:36 -0600, VictorRCurious
wrote:
>Huckster Don Gimble of the Edmonton Canada Economic Development
>group is reported by the media for complaining that they, and others,
>are continually complaining worldwide, that Edmonton Canada is unsafe
>and filthy as well.
>Apart from all the corruption in many city departments, which will
>discourage potential business investors.
>Gimble seems to want media and others to not publicise many well-known
>news srories, such as:
>Thugs of the Edmonton Police savagely beating 20 year-old Kristin
>Wilson to the concrete sidewalk.
>More thugs of the Edmonton police beating up the 66 year old lawyer,
>Mr. Fish, for photographing their crominal brutality.
>The Edmonton cops who shot a suspect in the BACK, 6 times!!
>The fact that the local cops have not arrested or charged the serial
>killer of 107 women sex trade workers!!
>People are now suspecting that this serial killer may in fact be a
>cnother crooked cop, or even a judge or lawyer, which is why the
>cops do not want to find the murderer, because he is one their own!!
>The filth in the city is everywhere, not just from the filthy
>panhandlers begging for cash for their next “fix” in the downtown.
>Look at all the ice not removed by the city from city sidewalks,
>making them very unsafe.
>All the garbage on the rods and in city parks.
>And, never forget the hundreds of thousands of POTHOLES in city roads,
>caused by substandard city road construction, so that the favoured
>city contracting firms get repeat business each year, instead of doing
>the job properly the first time!!
>Corruption is in many departments, usually at the senior levels of
>management.
>
>In the Police department there are several cases worth discussion.
>City council stupidly agreed to give the police chief another $6.3
>MILLION,supposedly to hire another 27 cops.
>Since new recruits start at only $36,000 per man, who gets the extra
>$5.6 MILLION? The chief and his buddies?
>Quite apart from the fact that there was in fact a SAVING of more than
>$2 MILLION in payroll, because there are 30 overpaid senior cops reiring
>this year!! The deadwood cops get between $80,000-$140,000,total around $3
>MILLION, while the recruits get only $36K – total of $ONE MILLION!!
>Is this more graft and corruption?
>The Audtor for Edmonton MUST investigate!!
>The local chief cop is quoted in today’s Sun as complaining about not
>being able to raise the pay for new cop recruits.
>The Chief is responsible for WASTING OVER $ONE MILLION,
>by having already 8 uselss hacks and flacks in the police BS section.
>To add insult to injury, they hired hack #9, at an advertised base
>salary of over $95,000! That means a taxpayer cost of over A MILLION
>DOLLARS FOR THE BS SECTION OF THE POLICE!!
>That money could have been used to hire at least another 25 new
>recruits, who might have been helpful in catching criminals, when not
>sitting in coffee shops!
>Mind you, with what the chief and deputy chiefs get paid, why can’t
>they themselves do their own press conferences, since they are
>supposed to be fluent in English?
>To add insult to injury, the CPRN – Community Police Radio Network –
>comprised of thousandfs of stupid local citizens, have to supply their
>own vehicles, gas,radio equipment and even pay for their uniforms, just to
>do the work of the cops who should be hired instead of the useless BS/PR
>staff!!
>When the media must expose the fact that Deadmonton has an abysmal
>record for arresting murderers compared to other cities, taxpayers
>have a right to corelate the squandering of a $MILLION FOR HACKS & FLACKS,
>instead of having proper police protection for our skyrocketing
>taxes!!
>No wonder this city needs the Guardian Angels.
>At least they do not waste millions of taxpayer dollars!
>This is the same cops who wasted $2.5 MILLION for a doghouse
>for 10 mutts!!
>The city tax assessment department is another bunch of crooks!
>A private citizen had to take the city to tax court, and proved that a
>lawyer had had his mansion DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A
>MILLION DOLLARS, for 8 years at $149,500, instead of $600,000!!
>And huckster Gimble does not want all the bad news publicised.
>Guess again Gimble. Now the flood of articles will be publicised even
>wider, all around the world.
Remember last fall, when the city tried to give away 4 round-trip tickets from
eastern Canada to Deadmonton, and people REFUSED FREE TICKETS
FOR A HOLIDAY TO EDMONTON?
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Subject: Re: Statistics Canada Admits-Edmonton Is Crime Center of Canada! City Complains – Repost
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Don Gimble of the Edmonton Capital Region Tourism Partnership is critical of
all the bad media reports, describing Deadmonton as “unsafe, filthy”.
Guess he does not like the truth, as detailed by reputable government agencies
such as Statistics Canada. Statscan have had to report year after year, that
Edmonton is the MURDER CAPITAL OF CANADA!
That does not even include the 107 unsolved murders of the so-called sex trade
workers. Many now suspect this to be done by yet another rogue cop, which is
why the city police are not bothering to try and arrest the serial killer, who
may be one of them!!
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:05:19 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
>In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
>2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
>of Canada!
>The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
>people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!
>And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
>notorious Edmonton serial killer of female prostitiutes!
>And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
>mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
>let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
>judge or criminologist.
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Re: GERMAN POLICE REBEL AGAINST THE ZYD BRAINWASHING – Repost
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Hopefully, people around the world will also rebel against the Zionazi
repression, control of what they read, as well as forced adherence to the
HOLOHOAX fiction.
On 25 Mar 2007 18:09:21 -0700, “Venceremos”
>Fears that the German police force contains neo-Nazi sympathisers have
>been sparked after disdainful cadets delivered an extraordinary rebuff
>to a Holocaust survivor.
>
>Students at the Berlin police academy refused to listen to the
>harrowing testimony of Isaak Behar, 83, who had been invited to
>lecture them on his experiences as a Jew in the Third Reich. Mr Behar
>lost his parents and his two sisters in the Auschwitz concentration
>camp.
>
>The cadets shouted that they did not want to hear about the Holocaust
>any more, and said that the Jewish community was emotionally
>blackmailing Germany, according to German press reports. Dieter
>Glietsch, Berlin’s police commissioner, has opened an investigation.
>
>German police officers are given compulsory Holocaust-awareness
>training. Visits to sites where Nazis murdered or deported Jews are
>part of the curriculum.
>
>Mr Behar and other Jewish survivors frequently lecture at police and
>army colleges. “There have always been antiSemitic incidents in the
>army as well as the police,” said Mr Behar. “But senior officers take
>action when they hear of them.”
>
>This episode, though, which occurred on Feb 27, is seen as part of a
>broader and more menacing trend. Last month it was revealed that at
>least three police bodyguards assigned to protect Michael Friedman, a
>leading Jewish activist, were neo-Nazi sympathisers.
>
>One dressed in his free time in a black SS uniform and put photographs
>of himself on the internet. Another printed out a fake certificate
>declaring himself to be a member of the SS “M.F” Division – M.F. being
>the intitals of Michael Friedman, who was for many years the deputy
>chairman of the German Jewish community. The wording of the
>certificate began: “In the Name of the Föhrer . . .” mimicking a
>genuine SS document.
>
>Yet another police guard stored the Nazi anthem, the Horst Wessel
>song, on his computer and played it out loud when colleagues were in
>the room. The policemen claimed that they were no more than harmless
>pranks.
>
>But Mr Friedman, who has received many death threats because of his
>vociferous support for Jewish causes, is taking the case seriously.
>
>He has demanded a parliamentary inquiry from the state of Hesse, which
>is responsible for protecting him. According to the mass circulation
>newspaper Bild, one of the investigated bodguards threatened “to spill
>the beans about far-right activity at Frankfurt police headquarters”
>if charges were pressed against him.
>
>The bodyguards have been suspended from duty. The German press and
>Police Workers’ Association have called for their dismissal from the
>force.
>
>”These incidents show that far-right thinking is now anchored in the
>mainstream of German society,” said Mr Friedman, “and it is
>increasingly obvious in the police force”.
>
>That sentiment was echoed by Andreas Nachama, a leading rabbi. “This
>antisemitism is appearing everywhere and it is as threatening as it is
>reprehensible.”
>
>Insiders say that police antisemitism is usually more discreet,
>confined to comments at the police station after a stint of duty.
>
>The guarding of Jewish sites, from synagogues to the Jewish Museum in
>Berlin, is particularly unpopular among the police rank-and-file.
>Their task is to head off neo-Nazi attacks or report antisemitic
>symbols daubed on buildings overnight.
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Well known anti-fag campaigner Bill Whatcott was featured on TV news
yesterday, busy distributing anti-fag leaflets door to door in Edmonton.
The usual suspects, reps of the fags and lezzies, have filed complaints
against Whatcott under so-called human rights laws.
The perverts claim that Whatcott is causing them to feel hated.
Whatcott now has group supporting his campaigns in Canada.
No doubt the Rev. Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church will also
provide assistance, if needed.
People should never ever forget – it was a Canuck fag who spread AIDS
worldwide, with the collusion of the Canadian government. This well
documented in the book: And the Band Played On”.
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:44:12 -0400, Johannes von Ebersdorf
>On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:18:37 GMT, MBaguette
>
>>Well known anti-fag campaigner Bill Whatcott was featured on TV news
>>yesterday, busy distributing anti-fag leaflets door to door in Edmonton.
>>The usual suspects, reps of the fags and lezzies, have filed complaints
>>against Whatcott under so-called human rights laws.
>>The perverts claim that Whatcott is causing them to feel hated.
>>Whatcott now has group supporting his campaigns in Canada.
>>No doubt the Rev. Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church will also
>>provide assistance, if needed.
>>People should never ever forget – it was a Canuck fag who spread AIDS
>>worldwide, with the collusion of the Canadian government. This well
>>documented in the book: And the Band Played On”.
>The Canadian connection to HIV in North America is an urban legend
>without any basis in fact.
I guess that you are another functionally illiterate graduate of the
communist/socialist Canadian so-called education system?
In other words, you are functionally illiterate, and are unable to read?
Otherwise, get someone to read to you, the book “AND THE BAND PLAYED ON”,
which gives complete details of the collusion of the Canadian government with
the worldwide spread of AIDS by Air CaCa staff member Gaetan Dugas – otherwise
known as Patient Zero!!
>As to Phelps, he faces immediate arrest if he so much as sets foot in
>Canada. He has long since worn out his welcome.
Not true, as I am sure that you know he regularly visits Canadian cities,
where he promotes the isolation of the AIDS-spreaders.
You mean that Canada does not have Freedom of Speech, or Freedom of the Press,
unlike civilised countries such as the USA?
>Whatcott is typical of the most ignorant and backward part of Canada.
>I’m sure he fits right in with the bigots and idiots in Edmonton.
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:36:17 -0600, Frank Arthur
>On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:44:12 -0400, Johannes von Ebersdorf
>
>>On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:18:37 GMT, MBaguette
>>
>>>Well known anti-fag campaigner Bill Whatcott was featured on TV news
>>>yesterday, busy distributing anti-fag leaflets door to door in Edmonton.
>There are a few websites featuring this anti-fag crusader, including:
>freedominion.ca
>projectalberta.com
>>>The usual suspects, reps of the fags and lezzies, have filed complaints
>>>against Whatcott under so-called human rights laws.
>>>The perverts claim that Whatcott is causing them to feel hated.
>>>Whatcott now has groups supporting his campaigns in Canada.
>>>No doubt the Rev. Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church will also
>>>provide assistance, if needed.
The Rev.Fred Phelps has a wonderful website at: Godhatesfags.com
>Then there are the radio programs by Dr.James Dobson, in the sries FOCUS ON
>THE FAMILY.
>>>People should never ever forget – it was a Canuck fag who spread AIDS
>>>worldwide, with the collusion of the Canadian government. This well
>>>documented in the book: And the Band Played On”.
>The book was in fact authored by a fag, dying of AIDS, Randy Shiltz, but
>he still documented the TRUTH.
>>The Canadian connection to HIV in North America is an urban legend
>>without any basis in fact.
>I guess that you are another functionally illiterate graduate of the
>communist/socialist Canadian so-called education system?
>In other words, you are functionally illiterate, and are unable to read?
>Otherwise, get someone to read to you, the book “AND THE BAND PLAYED ON”,
>which gives complete details of the collusion of the Canadian government with
>the worldwide spread of AIDS by Air CaCa staff member Gaetan Dugas – otherwise
>known as Patient Zero!!
>>As to Phelps, he faces immediate arrest if he so much as sets foot in
>>Canada. He has long since worn out his welcome.
>Not true, as I am sure that you know he regularly visits Canadian cities,
>where he promotes the isolation of the AIDS-spreaders.
>You mean that Canada does not have Freedom of Speech, or Freedom of the Press,
>unlike civilised countries such as the USA?
>>Whatcott is typical of the most ignorant and backward part of Canada.
>>I’m sure he fits right in with the bigots and idiots in Edmonton.
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:07:34 -0600, Frank Arthur
>Jew/ZYD taxes on grocery items – Repost
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:54:46 -0600
>Message-ID:
Frank Arthur is to be commended for posting this truthful expose
of the KOSHER TAX.
>On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:17:56 GMT, in can.politics LordTweedsmuir
>
>On 24 Jul 2005 14:33:54 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>Jewish taxation without Gentile representation
>>”A hypothesis(?) that readily springs to mind from the above
>>revelations is that what we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on
>>food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food
>>items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and
>>from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish
>>tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there
>>metastacized to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on
>>food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter
>>medications. And the question that the above revelations urgently
>>presses upon consciousness is how much this Jewish tax – if it may be
>>so described – costs the average Canadian household each year. Ten
>>dollars? A hundred dollars? A thousand dollars? What? Why don’t we
>>know? Why is there no way to find out? Why isn’t this a matter of
>>public record?”
>>Many graphics of grocery items on this page, click below:
>>http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html
>>Faster download, less graphics on (this) prior page:
>>http://www.ukar.org/ronen01.html
>Subject: KOSHER TAX Ripoff-HEINZ/Libby Dumps,Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>MORE!
>On 27 Sep 2004 15:50:36 -0000, ErnstZundel
>
>Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks….
>Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>qualified to do…
>Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>>From: [email protected]
>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>”veranda”
>>news:
>>> > > veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since it
>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>
>>> > > The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>
>>>
>>> news:[email protected]…
>>> > What duplication? It is a symbol on the container and the cost would
>>> > not change in any way. This “paranoia” is silly.
>
>>veranda : what ‘paranoia’ ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>you knew that !
>>Kosher is Israel’s food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>we got our own ! 🙂
>
>>Well, to set the record straight. The Rabbinate council that approves
>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>doesn’t really care. It is not an item by item thing. With the
>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>day.)
>
>>What would it save you–less than $10 a year.
>
>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Councils, so don’t think that it
>>is just Canada with their own. Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>have demanded more money?
>
>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>couldn’t make any money either.
>
>
>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin
>
>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>
>>The “Kosher Nostra Scam” on the American Consumer
>>by
>>Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>La Voz de Aztlan
>
>>Los Angeles, Alta California – 4/27/2002 – (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>receives quite a few “news tips” per week from our many subscribers
>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>attention.
>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>of the small encircled letter “U” or letter “K” that can be found
>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>certainly was “news” to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>
>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>container, the Trader Joe’s tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>
>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>that the mark meant that the coffee was ” certified kosher”.
>
>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be “kosher” and
>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were “kosher”
>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>products.
>
>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>receive protection.
>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>other similar markings.
>
>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>sophisticated “Kosher Nostra Scams.” It turns out that the
>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>in New York City.
>
>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>
>>The “Kosher Nostra” protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>certified as kosher, or “fit for a Jew to eat”, they will face a
>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>
>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>”Kosher Nostra ” certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>
>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>up to “inspect” the company’s operations.
>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>lucrative salaries.
>
>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>it now.
>
>>Only public awareness concerning the “Kosher Nostra Scam” will
>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>certainly do not need to pay extra for “kosher water”, “kosher coffee”
>>or “kosher plastic sandwich bags”.
>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>other non-Jewish people?
>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>
>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>
>>>>Further to the article below, today’s Southam newspapers
>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>all Heinz products.
>
>>>>Heinz declared this was done ” to keep costs down” according
>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>
>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>including those sold under the Libby’s label.
>
>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>
>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>
>
>>>>From: tyler
>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>consumers
>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>
>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>
>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>proof is easily found.
>
>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>
>
>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>
>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>
>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>
>>>>The website explains:
>
>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>
>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>
>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>
>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>>>>The cost is minimal to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>that!
>
>>>>…and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>annual sales of the product.
>
>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>friends and neighbours if they know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>Jewish, they won’t have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>because something is certified.
>
>>>>tyler
>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>
>As to what those markings mean:
>
>The letter “K” simply means “Kosher.” Kosher, in Hebrew, means fit or proper,
>and is generally used to describe foods that are prepared in accordance with
>special Jewish dietary laws. These laws are stringent and almost
>incomprehensible to those not versed in them.
>
>The small “u” in a circle or (“OU”) stands for the Union of Orthodox Jewish
>Congregations and shows that the food underwent rabbinical supervision in its
>preparation. (An “OUD” marking shows that the package contains dairy products,
>while an “OUM” indicates the presence of meat.)
>
>”Parve” (also “pareve”) is Yiddish for “neutral.” The presence of this word on
>packaging signifies that the contents of the package contain neither milk nor
>meat and thus can be combined with other ingredients in recipes. (Jewish
>dietary law forbids the mixing of meat and dairy, thus a packaged food that
>contained cheese could not be combined with, say, hamburger.)
>
>This variety of markings used on packaged foods alert consumers that items
>contained therein either meet the strict dietary constraints imposed by
>Judaism
>on its followers or that the contents of the package can be mixed with other
>foods or can touch them. Not all Jews keep kosher, nor even among those who do
>are the strictures always adhered to rigorously, but those determined upon
>being truly pious are aided in this endeavor by the presence of those
>markings.
>The devout go so far as to maintain two separate sets of utensils, cookware,
>and cutting surfaces so that meat and dairy never encounter one another in
>their kitchens. It is for their benefit that otherwise puzzling kosher
>certifications on non-foodstuff items are there (e.g., certifications are
>placed upon dishwashing liquid because dishes used for dairy cannot be washed
>using a soap made from animal fats).
>
>Less observant Jews do not bother themselves overly much about the kosherness
>of everyday items; they avoid the out-and-out no-nos such as pork and
>shellfish
>but don’t lose much sleep over the animal fat content of their washing-up
>liquid, nor do they fret that cold cuts might now be resting upon a plate that
>had months earlier been used to serve cheese. The proponents of the “Jewish
>Secret Tax” slander often assert that a sub rosa Jewish cabal forces large
>companies to comply via the threat of a nationwide boycott, backed by the
>underlying presumption that all Jews can be marshalled into turning their
>backs
>on products that fail to display kosher certification marks. That is not the
>case ? Jews buy and use non-kosher items too, so although lack of kosher
>certification keeps the ultra-conservative crowd from buying certain products,
>it doesn’t prevent the less stringent from making such purchases, nor would a
>”don’t buy that because it’s not kosher” directive have much effect even if
>there were a secret Jewish cabal to issue it.
>
>Those seeking kosher certification for their products have to adhere to kosher
>practices through the manufacturing process, use only kosher ingredients, and
>have their facilities regularly vetted by qualified inspectors. Kosher
>certification companies do charge for this service, which is the backbone of
>the “secret tax” claim ? it costs money to obtain and maintain kosher
>certification, thus this is an extra expense a manufacturer must bear if he’s
>determined upon having that certification. Where the rumor and reality part
>ways, however, is where the money goes. Fees paid to kosher certification
>companies go to keeping those businesses afloat with the profits siphoned off
>by those companies’ owners; they do not flow off into some special Jewish fund
>used to advance Zionist causes. These are businesses, not charities, and those
>who run them do so with every expectation of making a living, in the same
>manner that someone who owns a hardware store does so with the notion of
>making
>enough from the endeavor to support himself and his family.
>
>Does certification add to the price of a product? Certainly, but the amount is
>miniscule, especially compared to the advertising, packaging, shipping,
>research, testing, admin and finance-related costs, and a myriad of other
>components that contribute to the process of bringing a product to market or
>making it better appeal to consumers. One might as well rail against the costs
>associated with selecting the ink colors and style of lettering used on a
>package ? it’s all legitimate business expense, even though no one ever rails
>against the “Secret Red Ink Conspiracy” or rants about the “Helvetica Font
>Tax.”
>
>Barbara “heading for Helvetica in a handbasket” Mikkelson
>
>Additional information:
>
> A Kosher Primer
> (Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America)
>
>Last updated: 24 May 2002
>
>The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm
>
>
>Harry Mazal
>
>> Heinz/Libby held a press conference, to tell the world the truth.
>> Canadian Jewish News published articles detailing the situation, and
>> complaining about the fact that some of the ZHID groups would not be getting
>> the many millions of dollars from Heinz.
>
>> Which is more reliable, Heinz and the newspaper, or you, you snivelling rat?
>
>> On 1 Sep 2005 14:53:43 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> >GeorgeF wrote:
>> >> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> >> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> >> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>
>> >> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>> >> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>> >> part-time job!!
>
>> >> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>> >> extortion tax!!
>
>> >> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>> >> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>> >> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>> >> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks….
>> >> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>> >> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>> >> qualified to do…
>
>> >> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>> >> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>> >> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by:
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin
>Henry
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: “George”
>and [email protected]
>
>Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
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>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Subject: Re: German,Dutch Tour Groups Boycott Canada!!
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:35:44 GMT, “Reason”
>”RevPhelps”
>news:[email protected]…
>> In a headline news story today published across Canada, German and
>> Dutch tour operaters will now start to boycott Canada.
>And that’s a bad thing, why exactly?
NOT a bad thing, except for the parasites in Canada depending on tourist
suckers from Europe.
Now, sensible tourists from Germany and Holland can visit Australia, New
Zealand, countries in the Caribbean, without worrying about getting swindled,
or in Edmonton Canada, getting attacked by the crooked police, or getting
AIDS, and so on….
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: ADL,Zionist Policies Cause for Growing Anti-ZYD Sentiment Worldwide – Repost
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On 24 Sep 2006 10:05:01 -0700, in can.politics “rKed”
This is the most powerful condemnation of the international zionist
agenda I have ever read. it is worth spending some time on this.
It took incredible courage for Leland Lehrman to write this and
place it before the whole world. Its importance cannot be
understated. one can never comprehend what is happening in the
middle east and to our world until you understand the subversive
and destructive nature of the Zionist agenda. These arch criminals
that Leland Lehrman has attacked have only one fear—public
exposure of their depraved, racist criminal plans. Do you have the
courage to read this essay? Do you have the courage to circulate
this essay to the world? Expose them while it is still possible to
do so.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ADL, Zionist Policies
Causing Rise In
Anti-Jewish Sentiment
I am an American citizen of Jewish heritage concerned about the
methods and doctrines that the criminal leadership of the Jewish and
Zionist hierarchy have promoted worldwide. I feel that Jewish
Americans need to affirm loyalty to the Constitution of the United
States of America as well as the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule,
rather than the racist attitudes of the Talmud and other Jewish
scriptures.
My former intelligence friends are advising that I move quickly to
publicize my situation in order to protect myself through publicity.
The central assertion that the ADL makes is that I am “promoting the
Protcols of Zion.” On the face of it, that is incorrect, because, in
fact, I am deploring the Protocols of Zion, which is without doubt, a
template for world domination by a criminal elite. There is a debate
about its authenticity, but it has not been proven a forgery by any
means, and, sadly, it fits neatly into the context of Jewish
Supremacist doctrine found in the Old Testament, the Talmud and the
Zohar. My understanding is that the only court ruling which found it
to be a forgery, in Switzerland, was overturned on appeal by the high
court of that land. ADL further asserts that by my “promotion of the
Protocols of Zion” I am sponsoring anti-semitism of the Nazi variety.
This too is libelous as I have always made clear, taking great pains
to do so, that the Protocols do not legitimate racial or religious
bias, but represent evidence in a criminal case that involves
leadership and doctrinal matters.
In my below defense, I present the essential case for the authenticity
of the Protocols of Zion. Drawing from the works of Fraser,
Shishmareff, Fahey, Dilling, Freedman, Makow, Brafmann and others, it
can be easily demonstrated that the Protocols represent the coherent
viewpoint of the Jewish Supremacists of the time. If there has been
some interpolation (modifications over time incorporating evolving
bias) in the Protocols, that would be natural for a historical
document. There is evidence of interpolation in the Bible and most
historical narratives that have been translated, copied and preserved
by historians of varying intellectual prejudices. But nobody accuses
biblical scholars of promoting a forgery because the Bible has some
interpolations in it. It is not considered illicit behavior to read
the Bible although it certainly contains racist statements and even
insists in places that the Jewish people will ultimately rule over all
other peoples.
So, why is it that the Protocols are so much of an anathema?
There are two reasons:
One is because they have been misused in order to legitimate a policy
of racial and religious genocide. In fact, this is all the more reason
to determine what the true nature of the Protocols is. In the event
they have had such a terrible impact on humankind and in particular,
my people, I find it obvious that they should be studied carefully
such that through understanding we can determine the proper solution
to the problem.
The other reason the Protocols are so anathema is because, sadly, they
are most likely authentic, and therefore represent the most thorough
indictment of Jewish Supremacism known to man. The shocking
assertions, eerily accurate predictions and diabolical Macchiavellian
politics espoused by the Protocols is so violently cataclysmic to the
man of good intent’s understanding of modern history as to virtually
guarantee a political and historical awakening which will unavoidably
lead to an understanding of the continuing problem of Jewish racism
and supremacism. It will also demonstrate that Jewish Supremacism
operates on at least an equal footing with Luciferian Freemasonry in
the creation of that diabolical political nightmare euphemistically
called the New World Order.
This the ADL believes it cannot afford or tolerate, despite the fact
that an honest protective strategy for the Jewish people depends on
our willingness to confront the doctrines and criminal leadership
which are the cause of our troubles. Again, I declare that it is time
for Jewish American citizens of good intent to break with the ADL, the
criminal spy organization AIPAC and its supremacist leadership and
join in the condemnation of Zionist and neoconservative war plans in
Iraq, Iran, Syria and thoughout the world. This alone will guarantee
us immunity from any blind anti-semitic backlash that we might
experience. It will also prevent the anti-semitic backlash in the
first place.
Given that speaking the truth about Jewish Supremacism is now
considered anti-semitic, and given that Israel is now trying to
extradite “holocaust deniers” to Israel or other places where they can
be imprisoned, it is time to bring these issues out into the open and
to give dissenting citizens of Jewish extraction the right to be heard
and demonstrate that we too understand the problem of Jewish
Supremacism and in no way support its warlike and police state
policies. It is ironic that Zionist Russian mafia criminals are given
safe haven in Israel which refuses to extradite them, yet Israel’s new
law demands the right to extradite “thought criminals.” Apparently,
truth is not considered to be a valid defense when discussing anti-
semitism. Therefore, we are entering a twilight zone which requires
the efforts of honest citizens or the truth may not survive these
lies.
Honest Jewish people who obey the law of the land and subscribe to the
Golden Rule, the Ten Commandments or to natural moral law should have
nothing to fear in these times. The ADL makes a mistake when it
asserts that people are “not smart enough” to distinguish between
racist doctrine and criminal leadership on the one hand and illogical
racial bias on the other.
In the tragic case of Germany, to be sure, this happened. However, as
someone who lost family in both the holocaust and the Russian pogroms,
I assert that were it not for the criminal leadership of the Jewish
people in those times, it is unlikely that either the Russian pogroms
or the Nazi holocaust would have had any popular support at all.
It is my aim to prevent such tragedies again, but that does not mean I
must therefore shield the criminal activities of Jewish elitists.
Indeed it is only through assisting in their exposure and removal from
power that one can be considered a proponent of justice. To shield
criminals from inquiry and prosecution makes one an accessory after
the fact – a collaborator.
I will defend the Jewish people as a whole to the last, but it is time
that we acknowledge the faults in our doctrine and leadership and
expose the criminals who hide behind the more reprehensible among our
scriptures. Indeed we should remove these writings from our Holy
Books.
It is to this end, and in the interests of my children and family and
the future of Mother Earth that I submit the below petition for
audience and extended defense of the content of my radio show. It was
originally written to address the Jewish Peace Group Tikkun, who was
influenced to drop me as a sponsor by the ADL which has been
misrepresenting my statements in confrontational meetings with my
sponsors around town. Here is that defense:
Continued
http://www.rense.com/general67/adlpol.htm
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Subject: ZYD Holohoax Costs Yanks Over $35 BILLION A Year!
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:26:45 GMT, in alt.revisionism “abc”
wrote:
“Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced
that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax.
Fred A. Leuchter is America’s leading specialist on the design and
fabrication of execution equipment, including homicidal gas chambers. In
1988, Leuchter scraped samples from the alleged gas chamber walls in
Auschwitz, Birkenau and Lublin. Cyanide residue would be clearly evident on
all these walls if gassings did occur. To his astonishment, Leuchter found
no significant cyanide traces in any one of these rooms.
In 1991, the Polish government repeated these tests to disprove Leuchter’s
findings, but they as well found no evidence of any gassings ever occurring.
The structural integrity of these “gas chambers” is also extremely faulty.
These rooms have ordinary doors and windows which are not hermetically
sealed! There are large gaps between the floors and doors. If the Germans
had attempted to gas anyone in these rooms, they would have died themselves,
as the gas would have leaked and contaminated the entire area. Also, no
equipment exists to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings.
Nothing was made to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the chambers.
There are no provisions to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, floors
or ceilings. No exhaust stacks have ever existed.
Though six million Jews supposedly died in the gas chambers, not one body
has ever been autopsied and found to have died of gas poisoning. We have
been shown piles of bodies from World War II, but most of these persons died
of typhus or starvation or Allied bombings and a great many of those were
murdered Germans, not Jews. Roughly the equivalent of ten football fields
should be packed full of gassed bodies to present as evidence, yet not one
body has ever been discovered.
The Germans documented everything in meticulous detail from shrubbery to
arbors, but no pre-war or wartime plans or documents exist that detail or
even mention any gas chambers for reasons of genocide. All documents ever
presented were drawn up AFTER the war.
Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted for every so-called gas
chamber, it would have taken 68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million
Jews!
Even The Diary of Anne Frank is a hoax. Portions of the diary were written
with a ball point pen. These pens were not in use at the time Anne Frank
lived.
It is not denied concentration camps existed. Tragically, many died of
typhus or starvation, as often happens in such situations. There is,
however, no evidence that any gassings occurred for the reasons of genocide.
Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution
for Holocaust gassings. Our country has donated more money to Israel than to
any other country in the history of the world — over $35 billion per year,
everything included. If not for our extravagantly generous gifts to Israel,
every family in America could afford a brand new Mercedes Benz. Surely the
American people would be outraged if they realized their hard-earned money
is being squandered in these difficult times.
With all this money at stake for Israel, it is easy to comprehend why this
Holocaust hoax is so secretly guarded. The Jewish name for Holocaust is
“Shoah.” In Zionist circles, it is known as “Shoah Business.” If nothing
else, this unbelievable coverup demonstrates the irrepressible Zionist
influence and control of our country. Their only defense against the facts
is to cry out “antisemitic,” “Skinhead” or “Nazi,” whereas the majority of
those who question the Holocaust are ordinary citizens…though you would
never know it from the media.
In whatever way you can, please help shatter this profitable myth. It is
time we stop sacrificing America’s welfare for the sake of Israel and spend
our hard-earned dollars on Americans.
(For more information contact The Institute for Historical Review P.O. Box
2739 Newport Beach, CA 92659 USA).
There are compelling reasons to believe that the so-called holocaust never
existed. Page 223, in The Diary of Anne Frank, (Pan Horizons edition, Pan
Books Ltd., London, 1989), indicates that the size of Auschwitz, the most
notorious of all German work camps, WAS VERY SMALL, with only 11,000 people
(many of whom may not even have been Jews) being evacuated by the Germans at
the time of the Russian advance in 1945. Certainly, compared to Spielberg’s
film, Schindler’s List (which Emilie Schindler, Oskar’s widow, said was full
of lies), and other Jewish propaganda, that millions upon millions of Jews
were systematically exterminated, 11,000 people is a very small number.
Simple arithmetic tells us that the Germans would have had to have had
hundreds of camps, or else they would have had to exterminate 137 people PER
HOUR, in order for six million Jews to have been exterminated at such small
camps as Auschwitz, a feat that would have been humanly impossible
considering that, according to Douglas Reed’s Behind the Scene and The
Controversy of Zion, a mere 850,000 soldiers and others were killed by the
entire German and Japanese war machines combined during WW2 (see p.397-400
of Douglas Reed’s book Controversy of Zion). People who would believe the
Jewish propaganda that six million Jews were exterminated by Hitler must
KEEP IN MIND THE SMALL SCALE CONSTRUCTION OF AUSCHWITZ AND THE VERY FEW
OTHER GERMAN WORK CAMPS THAT EXISTED DURING WW2.
On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh
broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS – KENW-TV) said that when
Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was
told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years. Again, simple arithmetic tells us that
25,000 times a half dozen camps does not equal 6,000,000. In fact, it
doesn’t even equal 600,000. . . .
It is an interesting fact that the number of so-called persecuted Jews KEEPS
INCREASING. Hal Greenwald, program director for the Hillel Foundation at
Duke University, a Jewish student group, has been promoting the idea that
NINE MILLION JEWS WERE EXTERMINATED IN HITLER’S GAS CHAMBERS (New York
Times, Nov. 9, 1991, AP). NOW IT’S 9 MILLION AND GROWING. ..JUST LIKE OUR
DEBT/TAX MONEY SUPPLY…THE NUMBERS JUST KEEP COMING OUT OF THIN AIR. .
.(The Bible Caused Economic and Financial Slavery in the New World Order by
Lee Cheney)”.
Read the entire article online in depth:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Edmonton Gestapo-Like Thug Cops Receive So Far 57 Official Complaints!!
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Even that demented cretin Madd Maxx wants everyone to know about his
criminal buddies in the local Gestapo/KGB force….
It seems that the Edmonton Journal newspaper is joining its’ competitor the
Edmonton Sun, in posting articles unfavourable to the thugs of the Edmonton
Police!!
It seems all the media have rewached the breaking point, in tolerating the
criminal acts of those supposed to uphold the laws.
People are now waiting to see whether the new police chief has the balls to
lay CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST HIS MORE SERIOUS CRIMINAL
MEMBERS OF THE EDMONTON POLICE!!
The 57 complaints reported by the police, have nothing to do with drugs!
These are the officially filed complaints against the police brutality
following the Oilers games, some of which was captured by TV cameras,
and news photographers!
The local media, especially the Edmonton Journal, are gleefully reporting on
police malfeasance as often as they have a story.
Today, 25 April 2007, the Edmonton Journal reports that the man who has
been handling complaints against the police, as part of the Edmonton Police
Commission, is suddenly resigning.
One must wonder why – too many crooked cops, perhaps?
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:42:16 GMT, Sew
>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:11:47 GMT, NotMyName
>
>>The Edmonton Police received 57 official complaints of brutality,
>>following the Oilers games.
>>These included the 2 notorious attacks – the bashing of 20 year old
>>Kristin Wilson’s face into the pavement while she was already
>>handcuffed, , and the illegal tasering of 66 year old lawyer Brian
>>Fish. Both of these assaults by cops occurred 17 June 2006.
>>The police want to have more of these complaints settled through
>>mediation, rather than through court trails, because then the crooked
>>cops can cover up their criminality!! So far 22 complainants have been
>>induced to settle by mediation, rather than through a fair trial.
>Having seen how druggies and drunks act when they are hammered I’m
>afraid I have to go with the police on this one. Drugs are now rampant
>and I have a number of neighbours that are growing the stuff in their
>basements or just plain smoking it. The sad part is that they work for
>the government or handle large equipment. With an employee shortage
>they all get hired. Scary stuff if they are doctors or nurses.
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Subject: Re: Targets in Canada Suitable for Bombing? Repost
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:00:13 -0400, Johannes von Ebersdorf
>On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:22:13 GMT, ArthurFranks
>
>
>>A list of possible suitable targets for bombing in Canada
>>will probably include the following:
>>
>>Parliament when full of useless MPs and Senators
>>Supreme Court when full of anti-normal judges
>>Toronto slums where criminals based
>>Port of Vancouver
>>Port of Halifax
>>Port of Prince Rupert
>>Port of Toronto
>>St.Lawrence Seaway
>>Oil refinery Sarnia
>>Oil refineries Edmonton
>>Oil refineries Calgary
>>Toronto Stock Exchange
>>West Deadmonton Mall
>>Cold Lake military base
>>Gagetown military base
>>Halifax naval base
>>Vancouver airport
>>Toronto airport
>>Halifax airport
>>Montreal airport
>>
>>Feel free to add other suitable targets for bombing.
>
>Your claim is nonsense. Why the hell would anybody bother to dedicate
>people and resources to destroying targets in Canada? The whole
>scenario makes no sense. The people you apparently think might do this
>have far more significant enemies about whom to worry. On a list of
>100 enemies, sorted in order of importance, Canada might make the list
>as #100.
CSIS and their MOSSAD masters recently claimed that Canada was now on the
hitlist for terrorism acts.
Or, do you believe that MOSSAD will bomb targets in Canada, just to keep
Canada active with the Us in wars to defend Israhell?
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All ads from this scum, forwarded to CRA Special Investigations, as evidence
of unlicenced secondhand business, cheating the tax department.
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:47:12 GMT, “Sir Rodd:\)”
wrote:
>http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/bestprice/SUC50523.jpg
>
>Pentium D (935) 3.2ghz x2 Dual Core
>Foxconn P4M9007MB S775 Motherboard
>1024mb Pc5300 DDR2 667mhz
>250gb Seagate Harddrive 7200RPM 8mb Cache Sata 2 7200.10
>White 18x DVD Burner dual Layer +- by Sony
>White Sony 1.44 floppy
>White Case and a 450 watt PSU,extra cooling fan
>Black Dynex mutimedia Keyboard
>Red Mini Cooper optical mouse, Headlights are blue/Tail lights are red
>800dpi
>
>Its running onboard video at 256mb shared, the video is pretty good.
>Running a copy of windows XP/Pro registered and updated, Nero 7, AVG,
>Acrobate Reader, dynex keyboard software and foxconn update software.
>
>Comes with a Black 17″ SAMSUNG Syncmaster 732N LCD VGA Monitor. No dead
>Pixels and a super clear display with Magictune.
>
>Will include Motherboard box with receipts, manuals, extra cables, and CD
>driver/Software discs.
>
>$500.00
>
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Re: moving out of canada
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 01:23:27 GMT, “mokona”
>Thank you so much for your pointers, too bad I am female and cannot marry a
>Singaporean lady, what if I marry a guy there?
Better yet, since you would hopefully be creating new Singaporeans [g]
>”ArthurFranks”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:08:55 GMT, “PV”
>>>”asdfasdf”
>>>news:[email protected]…
>>>>>>I have a job offer in Singapore and I will be leaving Canada as soon as
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>can arrange it. Does anyone have any pointers about what I should be
>>>>>>aware of? what about my accounts, credit cards, RRSP, driving
>>>>>>licence…
>>
>>>> In the off chance that you come back, it would be prudent to make
>>>> photocopies of all your Alberta ID, like Drivers License, AHC, Blue
>>>> Cross,
>>>> etc. One of my friends moved to Australia. He called me several times,
>>>> to
>>>> get me to help him getting copies of all kinds of stuff, that Australia
>>>> required previous proof of.
>>
>>>> Any kind of documentation that you need here, is worth making backup
>>>> copies of. You never know what/when/if you’ll need and wish you had when
>>>> you had the chance to easily make copies. An example in point. The new
>>>> PAL
>>>> for acquiring firearms requires passing a safety course. I took Firearm
>>>> Safety and hunters training and hunting licenses in Ontario in 1967. I
>>>> still had copies from 40 years ago. They were accepted as proof, saving
>>>> me
>>>> both time and money, and the related hassle.
>>
>>>> Good luck in Singapore. Maybe you could make some posts to EDM.GENERAL
>>>> on
>>>> how life is there.
>>
>> Few pointers from past experience.
>>
>> Chewing gum is frowned upon. It is a serious CRIMINAL offence to throw gum
>> on
>> the roadway!!
>>
>> Simple possession of any drugs can invoke the DEATH PENALTY, even if you
>> are a
>> stupid canuck, so no drugs of any kind. The DP is usually by “the long
>> drop”=hanging!!
>>
>> Singapore is completely safe, day or night, since their police, unlike
>> those
>> in Edmonton, are honest hard-working cops!!
>>
>> If you marry a Singaporean lady, and have children there, the Singapore
>> government will pay significantly, as well as housing benefits.
>>
>> Hope this helps. Feel free to ask questions.
>>
>> P.S. They drive on the LEFT there, as in Britain.
>>
>>>Great idea, however Greg might consider them “off-topic” 🙂
>>>
>>>PV
>>>
>>
>
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Re: Frank Arthur still reeks of fraudulent names- Arthur Franks today?
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, “Frank Arthur”
>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?
>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?
>”ArthurFranks”
>news:[email protected]…
>
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Another Edmonton Cop Convicted!!
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TV, and banner headlines in newspapers are greeting the criminal conviction
of yet another Edmonton cop.
Cst. Aubrey Zalaski was convicted by Judge Brian Fraser, in a case brought by
a victim of criminal assault by taser by the rogue cop.
“the clear fact to me is that the accused overreacted, which resulted in an
unnecessary, gratuitous use of force” the Judge stated.
Further, the Judge stated:” I cannot conclude that the use of force, (that is
to say) the use of the Taser, was in any way justified.”
The victim was jaywalking in downtown Edmonton, when the rogue cop
called out to the victim, from a police car. When the victim refused to sit on
the curb as ordered by the rogue cop, he was then handcuffed by the cop.
When the handcuffed innocent civilian tried to turn around, the s.o.b. cop
then Tasered him twice, IN THE BACK!!
Even though the victim was taken to the police station, he was released later
in the day. he was never charged!!
The maximum sentence for criminal assault with a weapon, which is what the
crooked cop did, is 10 years in prison.
In prison, this could would find out from his fellow criminals, how it feels
to be assaulted.
This cop had been considered for promotion to sergeant, prior to his being
charged with criminal assault. Now that he is convicted, he won’t ever see any
promotion, other than in prison, perhaps?
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Re: Only in Edmonton…
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On 28 Apr 2007 08:39:50 -0700, Cut Off By Google
>>On Apr 28, 9:30 am, “Chom Noamsky”
>> Using Taser on jaywalker excessive: judge
>> Edmonton Journal
>> Published: Friday, April 27, 2007
>
>> EDMONTON – An Edmonton police officer who Tasered a pedestrian is guilty of
>> assault with a weapon, a judge ruled Friday.
>> Provincial court Judge Brian Fraser said Const. Aubrey Zalaski used
>> excessive force when he arrested Paul Cetinski for jaywalking on Aug. 9,
>> 2004.
>> http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f0fcc3a8-a2c5-4…
>
>The best thing about this case is that a cop is actually being held to
>account for this type of conduct.
If he gets sent to the penitentiary, there will certainly be lots of criminals
who will “take care” of him!
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Re: Only in Edmonton…
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:15:37 GMT, “sharx35”
>”ArthurFranks”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On 28 Apr 2007 08:39:50 -0700, Cut Off By Google
>>>>On Apr 28, 9:30 am, “Chom Noamsky”
>>>> Using Taser on jaywalker excessive: judge
>>>> Edmonton Journal
>>>> Published: Friday, April 27, 2007
>>>> EDMONTON – An Edmonton police officer who Tasered a pedestrian is guilty
>>>> of assault with a weapon, a judge ruled Friday.
>>>> Provincial court Judge Brian Fraser said Const. Aubrey Zalaski used
>>>> excessive force when he arrested Paul Cetinski for jaywalking on Aug. 9,
>>>> 2004.
>>>> http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=f0fcc3a8-a2c5-4…
>>>The best thing about this case is that a cop is actually being held to
>>>account for this type of conduct.
If he gets sent to the penitentiary, there will certainly be lots of
criminals who will “take care” of him!
>I still believe that in Edmonton, bad cops like him are a small, small
>minority. He’ll probably do community time, with a conditional discharge.
Regrettably you are incorrect.
With all the media exposes of crooked cops, from the disgraced and fired
chiefs downwards, the Edmonton police seem full of criminals – engaged in
attempted murder of their sposes, criminal britality of suspects, drug
dealing, and so on.
Only rarely does someone, like mr.Cetinski, have the balls to prosecute the
crooked cops!!
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From: ArthurFranks
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Subject: Re: Frank Arthur trickster & common thief defrauds Europeans
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:32:23 -0400, “Frank Arthur”
>Frank Arthur defrauds German,Swiss & other Europeans
>by posting to their newsgroups pretending to be Frank Arthur
>A fraud pretending to be Frank Arthur
>Legit Frank Arthur only posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
>Frank Arthur, and all the aliases is just another common thief. Some are pickpockets.
>Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. This human turd steals names.
>Here are some of his names-
>Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,
>Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
>[email protected],GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
>GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
>KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
>All from Frank Arthur the fraud
I am not only a liar, claiming to not post to newsgroups, but I am also a
lunatic, since I do not remember all my aliases and lies.
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Subject: Selling Slave-Sex in Israel- Filthy ZYDS – Repost
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne”
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”
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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people, such
as drug dealers.
They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
criminal will never re-offend!!
Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the upkeep
in some pampering prison system!!
If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow suit!!!
Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just arrested!!
On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, “LifeManTalking”
>AUSTRALIA – Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.
>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.
>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.
>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday’s sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.
>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.
>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.
>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia’s heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.
>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls “mules”.
>”It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,”
>he told ABC’s Australian Story. “Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars.”
>The AFP’s role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.
>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.
>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.
>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.
>”We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores,” Phelan said. “That’s a practice
>we will continue to operate within.”
>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.
>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.
>”No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty,” Myers told Australian Story.
>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.
>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.
>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.
>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.
>Phelan is unrepentant: “Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with.”
>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.
>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.
>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.
>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.
>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.
>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.
>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra’s approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia’s long-standing opposition to the death penalty.
>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.
>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.
>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia’s
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.
>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.
>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.
>Death penalty Australia’s double dilemma
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley
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Subject: Remembrance Day for All – NO HOLOHOAX Day Just for ZYDS!! Repost
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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
CONS!! !!
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky
wrote:
Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS,
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!
Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg
>>From: Nemo
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of All Holocausts Of 20th Century–Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin’s Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler’s Nazis.
>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward” and “Cultural Revolution”.
>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.
>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having
>>CHRIST killed!!
>>[email protected] (LisaMcVay) wrote in message
>>news:<[email protected]>…
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!
>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!
>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?
>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.
>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.
>>Canada doesn’t even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930’s.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?
>>Canada doesn’t celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied
>>Australia.
>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS – who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes – do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be exterminated!!
>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!
>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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Subject: Re: ZYD/Jew Rudolph Kastner Wore a Nazi SS Uniform !! ZYD KOLABORACI With Nazis! Repost
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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos”
>The Accusations
> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.
> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm
> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.
> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…
> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”
> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-
KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]
Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer
>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….
>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>The Kastner Case
>—————–
>Introduction
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
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KATYN=MURDERS OF POLISH BY ZYDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! Like Vinnitsa!! NEVER FORGET!
On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, “Peter Wielki”
>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukranians that did the crime,
>as far as I know.
>But yeah, let’s blame it on JEWS!!! Germans did it too, right Frankie?
>”Frank Arthur”
>news:[email protected]…
>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!
>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.
>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.
>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!
>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles
>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)
>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>> the discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1, 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to
>> The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.
>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used
>> the word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned,
>> as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>> single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was
>> to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>> guardians.
>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the
>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.
>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.
>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.
>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder
>> victims.
>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and
>> for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily,
>> and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.
>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew
>> of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>> three – two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to those lies.
>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>> anything.
>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>> the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government
>> in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>> victims of Katyn.
>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians.
>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this must have had on Kremlin thinking?
>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city, the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.
>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.
ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESE ZYD MURDERERS!!
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZYDS isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.
>> ++++++++++++++
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>> http://esu.simplenet.com
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>> http://www.stormfront.org
>> Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library
>> http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>> First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>> First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao tse Dung
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!!
>> Me
>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)
>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant
>>
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>> Newsgroups:
>> pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,
>> alt.politics.europe
>> Subject: KATYN=MURDERS BY ZYDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!
>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.
>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.
>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.
>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>> nights.
>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473
>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
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>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.
Reply-To: Frank Arthur
or to [email protected], [email protected] or
DR SCHAEFER
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Subject: Israeli Prof Confirms ZYD Blood Usage!! Repost
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On 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800, in soc.culture.palestine “Zionism is a cancer
growing on Uncle Sam’s ass. -”
Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
By Khalid Amayreh
Feb 12, 2007, 19:15
Reports
A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
unfounded.
Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
in a new book, published recently in Italy, that “there is a factual
basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.”
“I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
don’t claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
act and justified it.”
In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz Monday, 12
February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.
The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
them.
The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
sentenced to death and burned at the stake.
“I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
prayers known from the Jewish prayer book,” Toaff was quoted as
saying.
He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn’t use
human blood on Passover was not entirely true.
“Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
Passover.
“Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
powers of children’s blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood.”
Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
even human blood.
Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
Jewish leaders and commentators for “vindicating anti-Semitism” and
giving anti-Semites a “cause celebre.”
Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
to explain his research once he returned from Italy.
Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
inter alia, “self-hating Jew” and “collaborator with anti-Semites.”
However, Toaff said he wouldn’t be silenced no matter how vociferous
are the criticisms of his book.
“I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
if the world crucifies me.”
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml
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Subject: Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People=Ike’s Death Camps!! Repost
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On Sun, 20 August 2006 08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:
This is more than true, if you read the book “OTHER LOSSES” by
Bacque!
It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.
Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!
>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, “Schorsch”
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Schorsch
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe
>>> Was there some point you wished to make?
>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…
>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike’s Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest…….
>>>From: [email protected] (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: “Ike”‘s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF “IKE’S DEATH CAMPS”
>>>By Martin Brech
>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in ‘the land of the free’?”
>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>”Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect… Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks…One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald…The book blames Eisenhower. ‘The German is a beast,’
>>>Ike had written…But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly…It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton…Ignoring the book is not enough.”
>>>Pat Buchanan’s courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the “banality of evil”,
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.
>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the “Battle of
>>>the Bulge”, my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a “repo depo” (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.
>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.
>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.
>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.
>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.
>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from “higher up”. No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term “war criminal” was just beginning to come into fashion.
>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners’ food, and that these orders came from “higher up”. But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.
>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the “offense”, and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, “Why?” he mumbled,
>>>”Target practice,” and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn’t tell if any
>>>had been hit.
>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.
>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of “my country, right or wrong, my country,” which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.
>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.
>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. “Yankee
>>>traders” were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.
>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the “graveyard shift”, from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn’t bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.
>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn’t
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.
>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.
>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing — both felt a
>>>touch of spring.
>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed “mystical”. However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)
>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).
>>>However, on this day we were happy.
>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly ‘broke the ice’, and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German (“Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen”). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>”Eisenhower jacket” so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.
>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.
>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow ‘killing fields’.
>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were “camp followers”, selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn’t think
>>>they deserved our treatment.
>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a “fancy Nazi
>>>medal”, which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him “off
>>>her back”, but I didn’t think one of our ‘death camps’ was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his “dirty work”.
>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible — that is, when they weren’t chased
>>>away.
>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by “displaced persons”
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.
>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the “contraband”
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.
>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more “available”, but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was “just friends”
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.
>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies’ atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government’ s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.
>>>I realized it’s difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to “talk” because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I “spoke out” recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that “the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear.” And, in any case, “the truth shall out”.
>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.
>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301
>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…
Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/
He himself is some kind of “Holocaust Denier”, when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn’t mention any German suffering:
https://nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources “gassed millions of
Jews”?!
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:52:31 -0400, in soc.culture.german “127.0.0.1”
<[email protected]> wrote:
One Third of the Holocaust
Download this video!
http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=692
A 4 hour movie on the subject of Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec.
=======
Judea Declares War on Germany
1 hr 12 min 44 sec – Jul 16, 2006
Download this video!
http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=690
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel
wartime propaganda?
This fascinating documentary investigates the myths surrounding
the legend.
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Notice that the piece of merde using various aliases such as Dezi Coughlan,
Goldstein, et al, just can not deny the articles he posted SUPPORTING THE
NAZIS!!
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:42:01 GMT, JimMcCarthy
>Desmond Cohen, alias Coughlan, now alias Izzie/Yitzhak Goldstein,
>the NAZI claiming to be a filthy Christkiller rabbi, is well-known as
>being an unmitigated LIAR!!
Grosvenor has never in his life been near Newcastle-onTyne, and
most definitely has NO CONVICTIONS FOR ASSAULT
& EMBEZZLEMENT THERE!!
But what can one expect from such a piece of Nazi filth as Dezi?
He should be put into an oven, and incinerated with the rest of the garbage!!
Guess Dezi dislikes Noles for exposing his charade, what?
>On 30 Sep 2005 05:35:51 -0700, “Nazi_Noles-Crusher”
>
>>> Repost
>
>>Of Nazi Noles’s post .. in its entirety.
>>Birds of a feather flock together.
>>Y.
>
>On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:37:35 -0500, “he_who_exposes_liars”
>
>
>>Dec 18, 2004
>>What kind of a person would claim to be Jewish, just so he can
>>attack Jewish interests? That would be the poster who signs
>>himself as a Jew, and has now been proven to not be Jewish.
>>Desmond is NOT Jewish. In one of the most sweeping and
>>diabolical frauds ever attempted in AADP, Desmond hopes to
>>heap lie upon lie. He only changed his handle to insult the
>>idea that there are actually a Jewish people. Actually, now
>>laughing in the face of the Jews. To insult the birthright that
>>belongs to those Jews who wish to claim it, if such a birthright
>>exists, which Desmond argues does not exist. His new handle
>>was created only with his smug contempt for the Jews. It is
>>only his effort to add “insult to injury” to the Jews.
>>As usual, when Desmond gets caught in a lie, he believes that
>>in typical Nixon fashion, he can _tough it out_, by offering a
>>bigger and bigger lie, in his use of the _I am not a crook_, defense.
>
>>With Desmond frequently employing the same technique, insisting
>>that “I do not lie;” said just shortly after being caught in a lie.
>>Yes… there are SEVEN facts now… all that prove together that
>>Desmond is not Jewish….In his own words, in the manner,
>>methods and purpose of his posts, and from someone who
>>personally knows him. Seven distinct and separate facts in
>>evidence that prove he is not Jewish.
>
>>1) He does not believe in a God… thus he cannot claim to be Jewish
>>through that religion.
>>His own words have often denied his belief in any God… and he
>>is thus an atheist, and by definition a Gentile. Not of the Jewish
>>faith. Some of his comments verifying that —
>>Desmond’s words to St. George… “I’m not, St.George. In fact, I don’t
>>even believe in God.”
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/d4…
>
>>And another of his denials that he believes in God —
>>”If I believed in God, I would get down on my knees every day and
>>thank Him for not having me born in the United States.”
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/36…
>
>>And yet another, rather insulting characterization of God as
>>seen through the eyes of the believers in the Judaic religion —
>>”Whilst not necesarily subscribing to the Judeo-Christian
>>myths of heaven and hell, and a benevolent God wearing a
>>beard and with a Polo mint floating above His head.” See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/61…
>
>>And yet again.. disputing the ideas contained in the Judaic
>>religion — “man’s pretentiousness in believing that ‘God’
>>created him in His image.” See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/db…
>
>>And yet again — his words — “I dissociate myself from the ‘classic’
>>Judeo-Christian… idea of ‘spirituality’, and consider the soul, as
>>distinct from any organised religion. ” See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/60…
>
>>And a great many further comments in which he has insisted
>>that he does not believe in “A God,” and certainly not the God
>>believed in by those of the Jewish religious faith
>
>>2) He has insisted that no one is a “born Jew,” thus he cannot
>>claim he is Jewish through any ethnic descent that he does not
>>even believe in.
>
>>In fact, Desmond was born in Clydebank, Scotland, and his family
>>is pure Scottish (Celtic… as corrected by Mr. Rennie), and
>>has been so for as many generation as are known. His primary
>>education from the ages of 12 until 18 was in “Our Lady’s High
>>School,” in Cumbernauld, Scotland. A Roman Catholic
>>school. See —
>>http://www.northlan.gov.uk/education+and+learning/schools/secondary/o…
>
>>And both his given name and his family name leave no doubt that
>>he has no Jewish ancestry to speak of. See —
>>http://website.lineone.net/~tam.c/spare/coughlan.htm
>
>>And he has denied that there is even a possibility of anyone being
>>a “born Jew” with his words — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
>>spagmerchant.”
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7e…
>
>>And in another post of his, insisting that it is a lie to
>>believe that one can be “born Jewish” — his words —
>>”As FuckWit seems to be a ‘born liar’, perhaps that’s
>>why he believes that one can be ‘born Jewish’.” See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ef…
>
>>And he agreed with another poster in the claim that “It is abusive –
>>and even linguistically abusive – to state that we were “born Jew”. See –
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/f8…
>
>>He certainly cannot claim to be Jewish “through birth,” if he does not
>>even believe that anyone can be Jewish “through birth.”
>
>>3) John Rennie knows Desmond personally, and has stated Desmond
>>is not Jewish. Desmond became rather enraged at this disclosure and
>>insisted that John was _honor bound_ not to reveal Desmond’s lie.
>
>>John has offered six separate posts, each of them insisting that he
>>knows Desmond personally, and that Desmond confirmed to him that
>>he was not Jewish, and in fact felt it was a big joke he was playing on
>>AADP, and found it a source of both amusement and laughter that
>>the group members could be so gullible. See —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7d…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6d…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/a0…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/95…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/bb…
>
>>and —
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/18…
>
>>And Desmond even insisted that John was _honor bound_ not to reveal
>>that Desmond had been lying all these years, as if Desmond demanded
>>that John join in with a belief in an _honor code of liars_. And then
>>Desmond had the nerve to accuse John Rennie of having “blackmailed”
>>him. Desmond will try to smear ANYONE who might threaten his lie.
>>Rather obvious from the ugly names he has called anyone who does
>>threaten his lie.
>
>>4) The cold, brutal and savage methods Desmond uses here.
>
>>Including all of those obscene ravings, claiming that a Jewish
>>stepfather was a pedophile, demanding that other human beings
>>kill themselves, conclusively prove otherwise. Desmond is
>>without a heart, and the Jewish people are recognized as
>>compassionate, gentle and humane in their ethnic descent.
>>One could even say that this has been passed down as a
>>meme, because of their own persecution over probably 5000
>>years. While Desmond is devoid of all compassion. And
>>there is an indescribable anger and rage in him, that the
>>Jews do not demonstrate. Inside of him lies a strong distaste
>>for the Jews, often expressed here.
>
>>It is disgusting for him to continue to offer that phony claim that he
>>is Jewish so he can attack the Jews. He is attempting to perpetrate
>>the greatest hoax ever attempted in AADP, in order for him to
>>attack Jewish interests throughout the world. Witness his
>>frequent explosive outbursts… lashing out in brutality, rage and
>>hate, repeated so often in so many posts. A typical comment
>>he often offers to those he perceives as his _enemies_ —
>
>>”
>>slap… punch … kick … ‘spnak’ (sic) … ‘spnak’ (sic) …hammer!
>>…thrash … thump! … whump-squeal … ‘spnak’ (sic)
>>…pummel-pummel-pummel … bash! … beat! … ‘spnak’ (sic) …
>>’spnak'(sic) …’spnak’ (sic) … >”
>
>>Does that sound like someone who is Jewish? Someone who
>>is gentle, and humane and not accustomed to using brutal
>>methods? Not hardly… it looks more like something from
>>Attila the Hun.
>
>>5) His many comments which disparage, _make fun_ of
>>the Holocaust, or insist that the Jews murdered in the
>>holocaust cannot be seen as different from any murderer
>>executed in the U.S. DP.
>
>>Reducing those innocent victims to no better than proven
>>murderers, or objects to ridicule. Insisting that those
>>innocent victims of the holocaust were legally killed.
>>Which obviously insists that the Nazis are legally
>>innocent of killing a single Jew. He is quite insistent
>>that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing even a single
>>Jew.
>
>>The number of times he has compared the Jews slaughtered
>>in the Holocaust to being nothing better than any murderer
>>executed in the DP in the U.S. is staggering. There must
>>be a few score posts in which he has compared the holocaust
>>to being no worse than the U.S. DP, and thus those innocent
>>Jews murdered in the Holocaust, are seen by him as no
>>different or better than those legally tried and convicted
>>murderers executed in the U.S. DP. Even given the vast
>>number of his posts that now no longer exist in google.
>>For example, his comments such as —
>
>>a) His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews
>>was legal,”
>
>>b) His words — “German society said that the extermination
>>of the Jews was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …,”
>
>>c) His words — “I state that the Holocaust is ‘akin’ to the death
>>penalty”
>
>>Six million innocent Jews killed, mechanically and methodically,
>>in a degrading assembly line manner in a few short years…
>>less that a thousand convicted murderers killed, given
>>trials that demand unanimity from a jury of peers, and a
>>decade of due process… no difference to Desmond.
>>Six million innocent Jews <=> less than a thousand murderer,
>>to him.
>
>>d) His words — “the issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in
>>declaring Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.”
>
>>Desmond finding that it is LEGAL… to declare the Jews
>>as “inhuman.”
>
>>e) His words — “it _was_ legal to kill Jews in WWII,”
>
>>f) His words — “the death penalty in the United States is no
>>more, or no less ‘moral’ or ‘just’ than the Final Solution.
>>Many consider it to be so, but that is nothing more than
>>a subjective value judgement. In the absolute, the Nazi
>>Holocaust and the death penalty are perfect equivalents,
>>both morally and legally.”
>
>>See how he equates the six million innocent Jews as
>>”perfect equivalents” to less than a thousand proven
>>murderers? Of course there is a difference despite
>>Desmond’s refusal to see it. Does anyone here… see
>>what that difference is, between the Jews killed by the
>>Nazis, and those murderers killed by the U.S.?
>>Desmond doesn’t see it. He sees those Jews as no
>>different from those proven murderers in the _absolute_.
>>In fact he sees six million innocent Jews as no different
>>in _the absolute_ than the less than a thousand
>>proven murderers executed in the U.S. in more than
>>25 years. _Absolutely the same_, to him. And he
>>claims to be Jewish!!! Get out of here. He’s a liar.
>
>>g) His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust
>>was mass murder, in which case, so is the death penalty,
>>or the death penalty is ‘just’, in which case, so was the
>>extermination of the Jews.” Attempting to imply that
>>the holocaust was no worse than the U.S. DP,
>>again reducing the six million Jews killed by the
>>Nazis, without the slightest effort to provide a trial,
>>or due process, or even define a _crime_, to nothing
>>better than the less than a thousand executed
>>murderers, given an open trial by their peers, and
>>a decade of due process. He argues there is no
>>difference, which is only attempting to make the
>>Jews to be no better than convicted murderers,
>>as a ratio of more than 6,000 Jews to each murderer
>>executed.
>
>>h) Desmond once posed an argument that he
>>stated retentionists often make to _justify the
>>DP_. Offering that retentionists try to separate the
>>idea of the Jews having been innocent, and murderers
>>having murdered when retentionists make the
>>statement — “The Jews hadn’t done anything;
>>murderers have.” Desmond REFUTED that claim
>>with a single word answer — “Irrelevant”!!! Imagine,
>>he finds any mention of the difference between the
>>innocence of the Jews, and the act of a murderer
>>IS IRRELEVANT!!! Again, Desmond makes sure
>>to insist that there is NO DIFFERENCE between
>>an innocent Jew murdered in the Holocaust, and
>>a murderer executed in the U.S. DP. They are
>>exactly the same to him.
>
>>i) His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to
>>refer to the legal execution of 6,000,000 Jews in the
>>Second World War.” While providing a definition
>>that does not even use the word “legal.”
>
>>j) His words — “Which still leaves that nagging
>>question about those six million Jews ‘lawfully
>>executed’ during WWII …”
>
>>k) His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution
>>for those found guilty of being Jewish’.”
>
>>Making a jest about the Holocaust (since this could
>>not possibly be as grotesque as stated…. even for
>>Desmond, regardless how much he despises the
>>Jews) — Why would anyone who is Jewish, make
>>such a comment, even in sarcasm? What does that
>>say to the victims? Apparently the Holocaust is really
>>just a big joke to him.
>
>>l) His words — “Aside from the Nazi Holocaust, ‘a just
>>execution for those found guilty of being Jewish’,
>>European countries gave up their habit of ‘invading
>>formerly sovereign nations’ centuries ago.”
>
>>ANOTHER ugly and evil comment from him, even if he
>>is attempting to joke about the Holocaust — Trying at
>>the same moment to make a jest about the Holocaust,
>>while being perfectly serious in defending European
>>countries, in an obvious lie, given the great number
>>of invasions of one sovereign European country by
>>another in the past few centuries.
>
>>m) His words — “The Final Solution was not illegal
>>under German law, Richard, and the ‘laws’ which were
>>used to secure the Nürnberg hangings, were not written
>>until (if my memory serves me correctly) 1949 or
>>1952 (one or the other).”
>
>>In his bold attempt to offer an excuse for the legal innocence
>>of the Nazis. Obviously, behind his words is the clear
>>claim that any accusations of the Nazis having committed
>>any illegal killings of the Jews in WW II, were efforts to
>>apply ex post facto “law,” meaning that he believed that
>>such a “law” did not exist, and the Nazis were _home
>>free and innocent_. Notice that he placed the words
>>”law” in quotes in respect to any law that would have
>>served to find a legal crime was committed by the Nazis,
>>but had no reservations at all about asserting that the killing
>>of the Jews by the Nazis was relevant and applicable
>>_law_, not needing to be quoted, but his feelings.
>
>>6) Desmond’s various anti-Jewish comments, and insults
>>to the Jews, which could not possibly be offered by any Jew.
>
>>a) John Rennie asked Desmond if he didn’t feel that it
>>was an insult to those victims to argue that their deaths
>>were legal. And Desmond… without missing a beat…
>>felt it was not an insult to those victims, as long as he
>>did not argue that their deaths were _moral_. As if any fool
>>would argue that the holocaust was _moral_. He USES
>>that claim to defend the legal innocence of the Nazis.
>
>>Desmond claimed that this is no insult to the Jews who
>>were killed to state that they were killed legally. However;
>>when a past post of his is examined we see that he
>>finds that Roger Coleman, a convicted murderer, had
>>what Desmond insisted was “insult added to injury,” to
>>COLEMAN, in the U.S. lawfully executing Coleman.
>>It seems that Desmond has two different sets of values
>>for those he considers insulted in being killed by the state.
>>One for the Nazis who he hopes to hide under the
>>umbrella of legal innocence, and claim it is no insult to
>>the Jews to insist that they were legally killed. And
>>another for the U.S. in its execution of a proven
>>murderer. A convicted murderer that Desmond finds
>>had “insult added to injury” when he was killed as a
>>convicted murderer. Desmond finds it was not “insult
>>added to injury” to six million Jews for him to insist
>>that they were killed legally. But believes that Roger
>>Coleman, a proven murderer had “insult added to injury”
>>when the state executed him under that same claim
>>of killed legally.
>
>>b) His ugly comparison of the 2.5 million innocent Jewish
>>victims slaughtered in Auschwitz, to around 300 proven
>>murderers executed in Texas. Arguing that one is the
>>same as the other, and thus those 2.5 million innocent
>>Jewish victims are no better to him than around 300
>>proven murderers.
>
>>c) His comment that the Jews commit “butchery.” hiding
>>behind the _excuse_ that they are _only Israelis_, while
>>80% of all Israelis are Jewish. Apparently feeling that
>>accusing only 80% if the Jews of Israel of committing
>>”butchery” in not enough to actually constitute anti-Semitism.
>
>>d) His insisting that the U.S. is _run by the Jews_, and it
>>would be better if the U.S. abandoned its “unwavering
>>support” for the Jews… and let Israel presumably sink.
>>It is my belief that his anti-Americanism can be traced
>>as much to his anti-Jewish feelings as his anti-U.S.
>>feelings. There is much to examine about his feelings
>>in his claim that Americans are “lower down the evolutionary
>>scale” than those he sees as _human beings_. Which has
>>a strong resemblance to how the Nazis saw the Jews.
>>Given that the U.S. has a Jewish population larger than
>>that of Israel.
>
>>e) His attack on the Jewish press — calling it biased, while
>>ignoring the fact that the Arab press often calls for the
>>murder of the Jews, and praises Hitler.
>
>>f) His defending an anti-Semitic remark made by the French
>>Ambassador to England.
>
>>g) His bizarre claim that in the past 2000 years, during which
>>European persecution of the Jews ran rampant, that Europe
>>”in matters of morals has led the world…” While forgetting
>>that in that same period, Europe experienced the holocaust,
>>in addition to unbelievable persecution of the Jews. And he
>>even invoked the name of “Christ,” when speaking of those
>>2000 years, leaving the ugly taste that he finds that persecution
>>acceptable because of “Christ.”
>
>>h) His despicable attack on the Jews, by accusing them of
>>being responsible for 9/11. He has always emphatically
>>denied that bin Laden had a hand in 9/11.
>
>>i) His statement that the Jewish state of Israel is “the most
>>anti-Semitic country on the planet.” Once again, ignoring
>>totally the anti-Semitic Arab world, in the definition of that
>>word. An anti-Semitic Arab world that calls from a religious
>>pulpit for the killing of ALL Jews. An anti-Semitic Arab world
>>that teaches children to murder Jews in the _name of Allah_.
>>And an anti-Semitic Arab world that provides the DP for any
>>Arab to sell any land to any Jew. And in fact, there is no
>>evidence that he has ever offered any comment which condemns
>>Islam for the sickness within that religion, that kills Jews in
>>the name of “Allah.” He is critical of the DP everywhere, but
>>I have never seen his criticize the DP placed into law by the
>>Arabs to other Arabs who sell land to any Jew. He is defensive
>>of Islam, and critical of the Jews in all cases. He supports
>>the demise of the Jewish state of Israel by any means, and
>>his comments leave the implication that he finds Zionism is
>>itself racist.
>
>>j) He has insisted that one of the active perpetrators of the holocaust
>>(Maurice Papon) should be excused from punishment, because
>>of _his age_.
>
>>k) He has argued in various posts that it’s been 60 years now,
>>so the holocaust no longer looms as something that should
>>deeply concern us, other than its _historical significance_.
>>Rather seeing it as like the _black plague_, as an act of God,
>>rather than man’s inhumanity to his fellow man.
>
>>l) He has insulted various known Jews here, and chased them
>>away, with his insulting manner. One particular case being his
>>threatening a Jew … Andy Katz. In his words — “Don’t get in
>>my way, or you will regret it.” And Andy Katz took that very
>>seriously as a threat, with part of it being because Andy is
>>Jewish. Regular posters here know of another quite real
>>threat Desmond made, that caused another regular poster to
>>leave for some time, no longer able to handle Desmond’s hate.
>
>>m) Desmond’s attempts to dismiss discrimination against the Jews —
>>in his words — “One could perhaps leave the Jews out of the
>>equation concerning discrimination, but the fact is that the poor,
>>blacks, Asians, and so on, are subjected to discrimination on
>>a daily basis in the United States.” I don’t think that the Jews
>>can be left out of ANY EQUATION concerning discrimination,
>>even in the context of the U.S.
>
>>n) Insulting the Jews, even as he claims he is Jewish, when
>>someone asked him — “Desmond, aren’t you part-jewish btw? :)”
>>And he replied — “100 % … ever since they took away my
>>pullover … ;-)” It seems even there he believes he can don
>>and shed his Jewishness as he wishes.
>
>>o) And then finding that the Jews are dishonest, even as he
>>claims to be Jewish, in his words — “Damn, can’t help that
>>dishonesty … must be the Jewish in me.”
>
>>p) Of course in the midst of his lies in claiming he is Jewish, he
>>uses that lie to accuse the Jews of _whining_ about the
>>holocaust. In his words — “Yet by milking those terrible events
>>for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel and World Jewry
>>(of which I am part) are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.”
>>Imagine that… claiming he is Jewish, and calling the Jews
>>_whiners_ in the same sentence.
>
>>q) And again, Desmond insists that the Jews only _whine_
>>about the holocaust, to apparently commit what he sees as
>>atrocities… in his words — “certain sections of the Jewish
>>community use the Shoah to justify their own excesses”
>
>>r) And his efforts to take away the meaning of the word
>>”anti-Semitic” in the English language. Taking great pains to
>>redefine that term in the English language, which left the
>>implication that he feels the Jews are USING that term to
>>insist that it only applies to them. As when he insisted that
>>”anti-Semitism” was — “a word which FuckWit thinks _only_
>>applies to those who harbour hatred for the Jews, and not
>>the other half-dozen or so Semitic races … *snigger*”
>>Desmond abhors the thought that the Jews might actually
>>have been the victims of the definition of that word… and
>>even ends with a snide laugh at the idea that the word
>>only applies to — “hostility toward the Jews.” Does anyone
>>actually think that a Jew would try to DISMISS the meaning
>>of that term?
>
>>s) And anyone who dares to confront him in respect to his
>>support for the legal innocence of the Nazis in killing the
>>Jews, or offers any pro-Jewish or pro-Israel comment is
>>called a “Nazi” or a “Nazi Bastard.” He does this because
>>he finds anyone who insists that the Nazis are not legally
>>innocent of killing the Jews, or who offer any pro-Jewish,
>>or pro-Israel comments are _Nazi sympathizers_. Because
>>HE SEES the Jews as Nazis!!! And thus anyone supporting
>>the Jews is such a sympathizer of those he sees as Nazis…
>>the Jews… rather than those everyone knows are the real
>>Nazis. He is a supporter of what another anti-Jewish
>>poster has called “Jewish fascism.” Insisting that the Jews
>>have now taken on the persona of those who hoped to
>>exterminate them 60 years ago. He thus finds someone who
>>supports the Jews of Israel must be a “Nazi.” After all he
>>claimed they commit “butchery,” claimed that they are the
>>most anti-Semitic people on this planet, and insists that the
>>U.S. in supporting the Jews of Israel is also _Nazi_. I believe
>>that rational people find the Nazis committed “butchery,”
>>and were the most anti-Semitic people on this planet, thus
>>I can see how Desmond would find the Jews of Israel to
>>be the same as “the Nazis.” And thus, anyone who supports
>>the Jews of Israel, must also be a “Nazi Bastard” in HIS
>>EYES!.
>
>>He does not see calling someone a “Nazi Bastard” because
>>they insist that the Nazis are not legally innocent, or because
>>they support Jewish interests, as an ad hominem. He sees
>>it simply as _speaking the truth_. He firmly believes that
>>those who support the Jews, are _Nazi sympathizers_,
>>because he sees the Jews as _Nazis_.
>
>>7) And finally… how he has now swiftly changed his handle…
>>hoping that the stronger his lie… the more someone might
>>believe him. As his lie begins to unravel, his lie becomes
>>more sweeping. Now insisting on that lie in every post
>>he offers here. Hoping to garner support for his lie, simply
>>if he repeats it often enough. An attempt to bolster that lie
>>in a transparent effort to follow the rule that Lenin insisted
>>works… that the more the lie is repeated, the more that this
>>lie is believed. But no one believes Desmond any longer.
>
>>Because even by changing his handle… comes the admission
>>that he has been stung by this exposure that he is not Jewish.
>>He felt threatened in his lie here for so many years now
>>being exposed. So as usual… his reaction is simply to insist
>>all that harder that the lie… is not a lie, if repeated often
>>enough. The _denial of lying_ kicks in. Even the changing
>>of his handle, demonstrates just how desperate he is to
>>perpetuate that lie. Without it, he is exposed for what he
>>is… an anti-Semite who opposes every Jewish interest.
>>Someone who calls someone who support Jewish interests —
>>a “Nazi bastard,” because he sees those who do support
>>Jewish interests as _Nazi sympathizers_ for supporting
>>the Jews, who he sees as those “Nazis.” While, as usual,
>>in his effort to hide that lie… he adds “insult to injury” to
>>the Jews, by literally laughing in their face, making a joke
>>about a nonexistent claim to being Jewish, over and over
>>and over… with that insistent and repetitive sham of a lie.
>
>>But even that was not enough… Now comes his latest effort.
>>Not just a claim that he is Jewish, but a claim that he is one
>>of the victims of the holocaust! Now insisting over and over
>>that he wears a yellow star just as those victims of the
>>holocaust. In a final insult to those actual victims of the
>>holocaust. After hurling an insult at them, insisting they were
>>legally killed… he tries to cover himself with the same yellow
>>star that they were forced to endure. Hoping to use the
>>Nazi method of requiring every Jew in the holocaust to wear
>>such a yellow star.
>
>>And just as those Gestapo thugs operating the death camps and
>>the concentration camps, when the allies swept through them,
>>tried to put yellow stars on themselves, to pretend they were the
>>victims rather than the victimizers, Desmond hopes to pass
>>himself off as one of those Jewish victims, to hide the fact that
>>he is instead… the victimizer. Hoping to pose as a victim of the
>>holocaust… to cover up his lies.
>
>>What he has done is absolutely the worst insult ever offered in
>>AADP against the Jewish victims of the holocaust. Now trying
>>to _play the role of one of them_. To posture himself as BEING
>>one of those victims. No longer content with the lie that he is
>>Jewish… but now playing the role of a _drama queen_, hoping
>>to “milk” the holocaust for his own advantage. To have others
>>see him as one of the victim of the Nazi death camps. While
>>he has insisted that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing
>>any Jews.
>>Only a fool would accept his lie in claiming to be Jewish. But
>>fools are in season in AADP. While it is certain that either
>>Desmond or John Rennie is a liar… and I’ll put 1000 to 1
>>odds on it not being John.
>>Now… I suspect that Desmond is in a bit of a rage…
>>having been exposed as living a lie here… for so many years.
>>And accusing John Rennie of not honoring what Desmond
>>presumes is the _honor code of all liars_, to which Desmond
>>demands that John Rennie is _honor bound,_ to hide
>>Desmond’s lie.. Desmond expect that old _honor among
>>thieves_, to be valid for even those who are not thieves.
>>But in the end… Desmond is simply a liar.
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:49 -0400, “El Conquistador”
wrote:
>’Misuse of Canada’s identity’ questioned in Israeli spy operation
>Stewart Bell
>National Post
>A SENIOR Cabinet official questioned the head of Israel’s security service
>about allegations Israeli undercover agents posed as Canadians during an
>operation to assassinate a Palestinian terrorist leader, newly released
>documents show.
>Although Ottawa has said publicly it was convinced all along the spy claims
>were false, internal documents obtained yesterday show the matter has
>continued to concern the government and has been the subject of
>behind-the-scenes diplomacy.
>In a confidential report, officials said they were concerned about “other
>countries’ intelligence services misusing Canada’s identity” and that “such
>misuse endangers Canadians travelling around the world and undermines the
>integrity of Canadian passports.”
>Ronald Bilodeau, the Privy Council Office security and intelligence
>co-ordinator and Cabinet assistant secretary, met on Oct. 1 with the head of
>the Israeli Security Agency, whose spies allegedly used false Canadian
>identities during the operation in Gaza.
>”The ISA is reported to have recently had its agents pose as Canadians to
>lure a Palestinian, 22-year-old Akram Zatmeh, into informing on Intifada
>leaders in return for promises of resettlement in Canada,” according to a
>”Secret: Canadian Eyes Only” memo prepared for the meeting.
> The documents do not describe the response of the ISA chief, who reports
>directly to Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister. Israel has denied the
>claims. But the papers show Ottawa was worried about being linked to a spy
>operation and a botched assassination that killed 14 bystanders, nine of
>them children.
>The allegations surfaced in August, when Mr. Zatmeh publicly detailed how he
>was lured into becoming an Israeli informant by agents who told him they
>were Canadians and could help him immigrate. Mr. Zatmeh said he was
>recruited by three “Canadian” agents who brought him to the Canadian embassy
>in Tel Aviv before coercing him into helping them, with doctored photos that
>showed him with naked women.
>On July 23, Mr. Zatmeh helped Israeli agents pinpoint the location of Sheik
>Salah Shehadeh, a Hamas leader. Twenty minutes later, an Israeli F-16 fired
>a one-tonne missile at the building, killing not only the sheik but also
>more than a dozen bystanders.
>Mr. Zatmeh was later arrested as a collaborator and is facing a possible
>death sentence.
>”Our initial concern … was that the press articles could be seen by some
>as alleging Canadian involvement with Israel in the assassination of Sheik
>Salah Shehadeh,” according to an Aug. 29 internal government memo. “Canada
>has nothing to do with this or with any other purported Israeli operation.”
>After the Post learned of the informant’s allegations, officials told the
>newspaper on Sept. 4 they were satisfied the claims were false. However,
>hours after the Post report on Sept. 5, John McNee, assistant deputy
>minister for Africa and the Mideast, discussed the matter with Haim Divon,
>Israel’s ambassador to Canada.
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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.
The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS – such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!
Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, “amigo cabal”
>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler
>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews,
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did
>hold – including army and air force generals.
>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society,
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from
>outside observers.
>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan
>Mark Rigg in his book “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military” (University
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers,
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.
>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations
>of being “true Germans”, many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).
>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis’ racial
>laws.
>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight’s Cross
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as an Aryan, even
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch’s right, General Wolfram von
>Richthofen.
>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.
>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort;
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens’s first
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.
>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the
>Knight’s Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right:
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.
>”KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS”
>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg’s book:
>
>”The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of
>the Nazi years.” – John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second
>World War, (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)
>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be
>”shocked” by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.
>The phrase “knowing the Nazi regime for what it was” above by Keegan, is
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be
>granted full Aryan status – especially given that there were only
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:01:09 GMT, “Princeandy”
51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives ‘both Palestinian and
Israeli’ in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult not to
remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when examining
Zionism.
>http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch06.htm
>Hitler was history’s flail to drive the stiff-necked Jews back to their own
>kind and their own land
>How many times have we heard the impious wish uttered in despair over the
>apathy of American Jews to Zionism, that a Hitler descend upon them? Then
>they would realize the need for Palestine! ([6]
>However, defeating Jabotinsky’s resolution did not necessarily mean that the
>delegates favoured a deal with Hitler and, when the Nazis announced that
>they had signed an agreement with the Zionists allowing German Jews to ship
>three million Reichmarks’ worth of Jewish wealth to Palestine in the form of
>German export goods, much of the Congress dismissed the statement as a
>propaganda stunt. When the truth became clear, pandemonium broke loose. The
>leadership had completely miscalculated and genuinely expected the pact to
>be immensely popular. Now, stunned by the hostile opposition, they tried to
>protect themselves by outright lying; the Labour leader, Berl Locker,
>brazenly proclaimed: “the executive of the World Zionist Organisation had
>nothing to do with the negotiations which led to an agreement with the
>German government”. [17] No one believed this crude fabrication
>Read the Red Cross reports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters
> in your city and pick up the records. Anyway theres a few independent
> witnesses.
>> http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html
>http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Numbe
>> r=293321480
>> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735
>> http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm
>> Rassinier seems to wrap it up.
>> http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.html
>During World WarII, Rassinier was a highly decorated member of the French
>Resistance. In October of 1943 he was arrested by the Gestapo for various
>activities including the smuggling of Jewish refugees over the Franco-Swiss
>border. http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/PORT1RAS.HTML
>> http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n2_Letters.html
>> On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh
>> broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS – KENW-TV) said that when
>> Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was
>> told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years
>> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/lindbergh3.html
>http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
>I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
>with PhD’s in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence
> is forensic. Until recently, there was never a forensic examination of the alleged
>murder weapon (gas chambers). Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall
>of East Europe to communism, many of the millions of Jews who fled Poland
>into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names
>to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the
>concentration camps of louse-born typhus. During World War One, two million
>civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin’s gulags.
>Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
>Documentation Center in Israel has a database of 3,000,000 alleged victims
>of Nazi extermination. But as you can see HERE
>(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
>every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times!
>http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/IY_HON_Welcome
>Yad Vashem’s 3,000,000 “Holocaust victims” database lists nearly
>everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
>you can submit a “Page of Testimony”.
>And of course we have lists duplicated, unconfirmed, but 3m according to our
>usual jewish/Zionist sources.
>Put your name in, you might be missing out on reparations.
>Has been improvements since this, numbers still very dicey.
>Name Town District Region
>Country Bday Source
>Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
>1879 list of victims from Germany
>Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
>1879 list of deportation from Berlin
>Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
>1905 list of deportation from Berlin
>It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
>louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged
>by malicious “witnesses” or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for
>extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
>show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged.
>The photos and records show there was not enough coke or
>crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The “witnesses” and confessors
>lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust
>does not contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
>the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
>train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed ’em with the exhaust from
>the locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz,
>during a typhus epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the
>crematoria, shaving of heads and requisitions for tons of
>Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very dangerous, impractical, messy
>method for extermination.
>http://www.vho.org/
>The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
>The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
>impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists,
>who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always
>looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
>extorted billions from the US Treasury, Germany, Swiss banks and insurance
>companies on account of the Holohoax fraud. The Holohoax also makes
>those who fought Hitler feel like they did something good fighting the
>demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take
>on Stalin alone.
>A “liberal” person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.
>Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
>have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
>zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
>Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
>Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
>only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
>taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
>plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
>Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
>come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
>the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
>support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
>anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
>was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
>not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
>the Nazis.
>God told the jews the earthly struggles facing them if they didn’t
>follow his lead. Well, they didn’t and will continue to face Gods
>promise.
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Subject: Re: ZYD KOLABORACI WITH NAZIS= KASTNER, RUMKOWSLI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More Cases Documented!! Repost
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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg
wrote:
>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.
>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case, one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!
>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG–
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.”
>>>I’ve seen photos of naked children, … and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society).”?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>> Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>> alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: [email protected] (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>>
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland. The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem. However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education. These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book. In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next “relocation”!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA. Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > ————-
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia – [email protected]
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
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Subject: ZYDS=NAZI COLLABORATORS!! KASTNER CASE,RUMKOWSKI+50 More Cases Documented! Repost
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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!
Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!
More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!
Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?
>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>>
It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!
>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>>
>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.
>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.
>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>>
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.
>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.
>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.
>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini’s
Italy.
>>>Brenner’s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha’avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
‘nationality’
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:
>>>And when some asked me: Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No! And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.
>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,’assimilation’ of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ‘It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own’
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives ‘both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli’ in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.
# 5 The Kastner Case
ZHID KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS – 1981
Introduction
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some “controversy” about negotiations he undertook
for “the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment,” but that he was “fully rehabilitated” by the
Supreme Court of Israel.
The Accusations
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.
This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.
Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, “I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.”
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price…was not too high for me.
“…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
“Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…
“As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal…
‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment.”
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
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Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
[email protected]
Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!
From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12
The Kastner Case
Introduction
Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.
Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.
Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
‘controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
ehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.
That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.
It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.
This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.
The Accusations
—————-
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
“Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:
‘I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations…I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.’
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.
Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
not too high for me.
We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’.
And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying ‘In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd’.
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
The Verdict
————
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.
Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
“The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.
The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.
The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.
Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.
Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.
The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.
Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.
The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.
The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?
The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.
The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.
One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.
Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another.”
(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).
Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
“From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.
This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.
Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
Judge Halevi continues:
“Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.
The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.
The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.
The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.
It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.
Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.” (ibid)
Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.
In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.
If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.
But the story does not end there.
The Reaction
————-
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
“All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)
In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
“Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
“The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense.” (23 June 1955)
But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.
As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
“If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)
Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.
As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
*Ma’ariv*:
“What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!
At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)
At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p.
268)
The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.
So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.
The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
rehabilitated’.
The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.
The Majority Judgement
————————-
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.
In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.
Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.
Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:
“…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which
one can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger….
Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
n other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
The Minority Judgement
————————–
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
“I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’
I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc – and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…
If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
– nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.
B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.
C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)
Conclusion
———–
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
‘dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships’.
But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.
Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.
Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
‘now dead’.
Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).
Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.
The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.
Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
We shall go on to prove this in detail.
——————————————————————
Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
mail: edavi[email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!
>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, [email protected]
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!
Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!
More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!
Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?
>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>
It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!
>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>>
>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.
>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.
>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
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“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
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“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
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they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
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TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.
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Subject: Re: Dezi gets Close + Personal With Noles Who Exposed Him as Nazi
-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:28:24 -0700
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On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, “Philippe ‘Suffer the little children to come
onto me and give me a blowjob’ KKKoughlan ”
after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:
>https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
Oh, my… KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more. The fight
is on… and the votes are now being cast. Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
hate the Jews more?
Think KKK doesn’t hate the Jews? Think again. This is just a short list
of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
the “innocence” (sic) of every Nazi —
His words — “The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.” See —
http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as “inhuman.”
His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution for those found
guilty of being Jewish’.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf
His words — “even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man…” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
Insisting that Auschwitz was “more humane” than California. And one elder
murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.
His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to refer to the legal execution
of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f
His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal…” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6
His words — “if it’s legal, it’s moral, Jed” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews “legally inhuman” and MORAL
to kill six million of them.
His words — “Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631
His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
Wiesenthal —
“At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
was a crime under international law.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
KKK insists was the “murder by lynching” of Eichmann.
In respect to the question — “Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?”
His words — “Isn’t there room for mercy ? For the sure knowledge that this
91-year- old man, isn’t in a position to harm anyone.”
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi… because he insist it’s been
60 years.
His words — “German society said that the extermination of the Jews
was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of “German society.”
He might as well have said — “Every German was a Nazi guard in an
Eastern European extermination camp.” Since his comment means
just the same. A large part of the German population of that time
might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
idea that “German society” supported the HOLOCAUST as a
“moral, legal, ethical thing to do,” is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
made in AADP.
His words — “In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
than 25 years. The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
Treblinka was measured in minutes. Yet he insists that “morally and legally”
this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
murderer.
His words — “Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles. In addition to
him claiming the Holocaust was moral. And concluding with that
obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
his words — ” Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ.”
Notice that he DARED to mention “human rights,” given the bloody
past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews. The persecution for
those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
Jews. All part of what he argued was the “bright beacon of morality”
in Europe during what he insists was “it’s Golden age of persecution
of the Jews.”
insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems and dispatching
them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years. Let’s all
give a big cheer for Jesus ‘motherfucker’ Christ…the name lent to
being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time… but
KKKoughlan’s hero.
His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today — “yet by
milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being
pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
is less than 150% pro-Jewish. Essentially insulting every Jew
living today.
His words — “certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
justify their own excesses.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
justify their own excesses.
His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is ‘just’, in
which case, so was the extermination of the Jews. See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
ever witnessed in AADP. Since the proposition is only true if one equates
convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews. But looking beyond
that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be “just,” by his definition must also find
the Holocaust to have been “just.”
His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic — “However, it’s fatuous to claim that Europe
is ‘anti-Semitic’, based on the number of ‘anti-Semitic’ events that take
place. If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
anti-Semitic country on the planet.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.
He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
Bernard, who referred to Israel as “that shitty little country.” In his
post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
and defended that perverse comment. One of his comments in
that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was — “Israel does not need to
kill children, to ensure its survival. Israel does not need to target the
innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival. Israel does
not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
ensure its survival. The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
long run, than they will help it. Sharon came to power on a security
‘ticket’, and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
ensured the security of Israel and her citizens.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
innocent Jews. Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a “kill every
Jew” ticket. As he also admits he is “anti-Jewish government.”
He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11. His
words — “I’d put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
attacks.” While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent. See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d
Of course he also screamed in rage that — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
spagmerchant.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5
But when it came to providing what he considered “proof” of him being
Jewish, he stated — “I don’t believe in God … but I was ‘born Jewish.’
See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6
And how many here… even those who would call him a “friend,” have said they
believe he is Jewish? The answer is ZERO. Even when I cajole them for an
answer.
While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
Jewish. All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
“wears the yellow star” as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
using that handle. The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
personal comic parody.
And of course we have John Rennie’s comment regarding the personal
conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here — “DESMOND
UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
Planet Visitor II
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
KKKoughlan’s words — “”send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to
give me a blowjob whenever I want one.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf
Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan’s own feeling as to
who he considers a “CHILD.” If so, let me provide KKKoughlan’s own
words of who he feels is a “CHILD.” His words — “”the term ‘child’ isn’t
defined by you and your NRA buddies. It’s defined in international law,
and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928
KKKoughlan… a self-admitted pedophile.
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Subject: Re: ZYDs Collaborated with Nazis
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And never forget the prominente ZYD KOLLABORACI, such as KASTNER,
RUMKOWSKI, AND WIESENTHAL!!
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:25:22 +1000, “Benja’min”
>Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization
>in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning
>the Solution of the Jewish Question
>in Europe and
>the Participation of the NMO in the War
>on the Side of Germany
>(1941)
>From Lenni Brenner: The Iron Wall, London 1984, pp.195-197.
>Transcribed and marked up by Einde O’Callaghan for REDS – Die Roten.
>It is often stated in the speeches and utterances of the leading statesmen
>of National Socialist Germany that a prerequisite of the New Order in Europe
>requires the radical solution of the Jewish question through evacuation
>(“Jew-free Europe”).
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and complete
>through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people,
>Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historic
>boundaries.
>The solving in this manner of the Jewish problem, thus bringing with it once
>and for all the liberation of the Jewish people, is the objective of the
>political activity and the years-long struggle of the Israeli freedom
>movement, the National Military Organization (Irgun Zvai Leumi) in
>Palestine.
>The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich
>government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and
>towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:
>Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in
>Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national
>aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.
>Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium
>would be possible and,
>The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the
>interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in
>the Near East.
>Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the
>condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom
>movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively
>lake part in the war on Germany’s side.
>This offer by the NMO, covering activity in the military, political and
>information fields, in Palestine and, according to our determined
>preparations, outside Palestine, would be connected to the military training
>and organizing of Jewish manpower in Europe, under the leadership and
>command of the NMO. These military units would take part in the fight to
>conquer Palestine, should such a front be decided upon.
>The indirect participation of the Israeli freedom movement in the New Order
>in Europe, already in the preparatory stage, would be linked with a
>positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem in conformity with
>the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Jewish people. This would
>extraordinarily strengthen the moral basis of the New Order in the eyes of
>all humanity.
>The cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also be along the
>lines of one of the last speeches of the German Reich Chancellor, in which
>Herr Hitler emphasized that he would utilize every combination and coalition
>in order to isolate and defeat England.
>A brief general view of the formation, essence, and activity of the NMO in
>Palestine:
>The NMO developed partly out of the Jewish self-defense in Palestine and the
>Revisionist movement (New Zionist Organization), with which the NMO was
>loosely connected through the person of Mr. V. Jabotinsky until his death.
>The pro-English attitude of the Revisionist Organization in Palestine, which
>prevented the renewal of the personal union, led in the autumn of this year
>to a complete break between it and the NMO as well as to a thereupon
>following split in the Revisionist movement.
>The goal of the NMO is the establishment of the Jewish state within its
>historic borders.
>The NMO, in contrast to all Zionist trends, rejects colonizatory
>infiltration as the only means of making accessible and gradually taking
>possession of the fatherland and practices its slogan, the struggle and the
>sacrifice, as the only true means for the conquest and liberation of
>Palestine.
>On account of its militant character and its anti-English disposition the
>NMO is forced, under constant persecutions by the English administration, to
>exercise its political activity and the military training of its members in
>Palestine in secret.
>The NMO, whose terrorist activities began as early as the autumn of the year
>1936, became, after the publication of the British White Papers, especially
>prominent in the summer of 1939 through successful intensification of its
>terroristic activity and sabotage of English properly. At that lime these
>activities, as well as daily secret radio broadcasts, were noticed and
>discussed by virtually the entire world press.
>The NMO maintained independent political offices in Warsaw, Paris. London
>and New York until the beginning of the war.
>The office in Warsaw was mainly concerned with the military organization and
>training of the national Zionist youth and was closely connected with the
>Jewish masseswho, especially in Poland, sustained and enthusiastically
>supported, in every manner, the fight of the NMO in Palestine. Two
>newspapers were published in Warsaw (The Deed and Liberated Jerusalem):
>these were organs of the NMO.
>The office in Warsaw maintained close relations with the former Polish
>government and those military circles, who brought greatest sympathy and
>understanding towards the aims of the NMO. Thus, in the year 1939 selected
>groups of NMO members were sent from Palestine to Poland, where their
>military training was completed in barracks by Polish officers.
>The negotiations, for the purpose of activating and concertizing their aid,
>took place between the NMO and the Polish government in Warsaw – the
>evidence of which can easily be found in the archives of the former Polish
>government – were terminated because of the beginning of the war.
>The NMO is closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in its
>ideology and structure.
>The fighting capacity of the NMO could never be paralyzed or seriously
>weakened, neither through strong defensive measures by the English
>administration and the Arabs, nor by those of the Jewish socialists.
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Subject: Re: Noles Exposes Nazi Coughlan, Using Dezi’s Own Postings!! Desi Dead yet?
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Notice that there has been a pleasant absence of the vile frothings of the
nazi Dezi Cohen, alias Yitzhak Goldstein.
Could it be that Paris welfare finally said to this criminal from the UK –
merde, vas y!!
>From: Vishnu – destroyer of Nazi Coughlan’s support of the Shoah
>
>Newsgroups:
>alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.palestine
>Subject: Re: Dezi gets Close + Personal With Noles Who Exposed Him as Nazi
>-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:28:24 -0700
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>References: <[email protected]>
><[email protected]>
>
>
>On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, “Philippe ‘Suffer the little children to come
>onto me and give me a blowjob’ KKKoughlan ”
>after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:
>
>>https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
>
>Oh, my… KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
>Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more. The fight
>is on… and the votes are now being cast. Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
>hate the Jews more?
>
>Think KKK doesn’t hate the Jews? Think again. This is just a short list
>of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
>the “innocence” (sic) of every Nazi —
>
>His words — “The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
>Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.” See —
>http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
>Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as “inhuman.”
>
>His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution for those found
>guilty of being Jewish’.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf
>
>His words — “even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man…” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
>Insisting that Auschwitz was “more humane” than California. And one elder
>murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.
>
>His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to refer to the legal execution
>of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f
>
>His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal…” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6
>
>His words — “if it’s legal, it’s moral, Jed” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
>Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews “legally inhuman” and MORAL
>to kill six million of them.
>
>His words — “Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
>on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631
>
>His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
>Wiesenthal —
>”At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
>was a crime under international law.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
>Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
>KKK insists was the “murder by lynching” of Eichmann.
>
>In respect to the question — “Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?”
>His words — “Isn’t there room for mercy ? For the sure knowledge that this
>91-year- old man, isn’t in a position to harm anyone.”
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
>And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi… because he insist it’s been
>60 years.
>
>His words — “German society said that the extermination of the Jews
>was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
>Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
>and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of “German society.”
>He might as well have said — “Every German was a Nazi guard in an
>Eastern European extermination camp.” Since his comment means
>just the same. A large part of the German population of that time
>might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
>idea that “German society” supported the HOLOCAUST as a
>”moral, legal, ethical thing to do,” is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
>It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
>made in AADP.
>
>His words — “In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
>are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
>In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
>short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
>than 25 years. The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
>Treblinka was measured in minutes. Yet he insists that “morally and legally”
>this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
>making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
>murderer.
>
>His words — “Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
>matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
>A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
>for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles. In addition to
>him claiming the Holocaust was moral. And concluding with that
>obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
>he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
>his words — ” Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
>for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
>science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ.”
>
>Notice that he DARED to mention “human rights,” given the bloody
>past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews. The persecution for
>those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
>Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
>crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
>Jews. All part of what he argued was the “bright beacon of morality”
>in Europe during what he insists was “it’s Golden age of persecution
>of the Jews.”
>insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
>were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems and dispatching
>them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years. Let’s all
>give a big cheer for Jesus ‘motherfucker’ Christ…the name lent to
>being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time… but
>KKKoughlan’s hero.
>
>His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today — “yet by
>milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
>and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
>A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
>express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being
>pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
>is less than 150% pro-Jewish. Essentially insulting every Jew
>living today.
>
>His words — “certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
>justify their own excesses.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
>His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
>justify their own excesses.
>
>His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
>which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is ‘just’, in
>which case, so was the extermination of the Jews. See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
>Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
>ever witnessed in AADP. Since the proposition is only true if one equates
>convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews. But looking beyond
>that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
>even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
>Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be “just,” by his definition must also find
>the Holocaust to have been “just.”
>
>His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
>Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic — “However, it’s fatuous to claim that Europe
>is ‘anti-Semitic’, based on the number of ‘anti-Semitic’ events that take
>place. If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
>anti-Semitic country on the planet.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
>Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
>and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.
>
>He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
>Bernard, who referred to Israel as “that shitty little country.” In his
>post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
>and defended that perverse comment. One of his comments in
>that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was — “Israel does not need to
>kill children, to ensure its survival. Israel does not need to target the
>innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival. Israel does
>not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
>ensure its survival. The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
>long run, than they will help it. Sharon came to power on a security
>’ticket’, and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
>ensured the security of Israel and her citizens.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
>Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
>excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
>innocent Jews. Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a “kill every
>Jew” ticket. As he also admits he is “anti-Jewish government.”
>
>He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11. His
>words — “I’d put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
>attacks.” While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent. See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d
>
>Of course he also screamed in rage that — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
>spagmerchant.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5
>
>But when it came to providing what he considered “proof” of him being
>Jewish, he stated — “I don’t believe in God … but I was ‘born Jewish.’
>See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6
>
> And how many here… even those who would call him a “friend,” have said they
>believe he is Jewish? The answer is ZERO. Even when I cajole them for an
>answer.
>While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
>Jewish. All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
>”wears the yellow star” as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
>even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
>while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
>using that handle. The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
>the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
>personal comic parody.
>
>And of course we have John Rennie’s comment regarding the personal
>conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
>His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here — “DESMOND
>UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
>JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
>GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
>NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
>HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
>
>Planet Visitor II
>http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
>
>KKKoughlan’s words — “”send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to
>give me a blowjob whenever I want one.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf
>
>Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan’s own feeling as to
>who he considers a “CHILD.” If so, let me provide KKKoughlan’s own
>words of who he feels is a “CHILD.” His words — “”the term ‘child’ isn’t
>defined by you and your NRA buddies. It’s defined in international law,
>and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928
>
>KKKoughlan… a self-admitted pedophile.
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Israel always rpotects its ZYD criminals, as long as they bring lots of
dollars when they flee to Israel!!
On 27 Nov 2004 20:48:13 -0000, SyBernstein
>Mamser Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….
>From: [email protected]
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
>Subject: ISRAEL PROTECTS POLISH ZHID/NAZI MURDERER!!
>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:59:12 +0200 (CEST)
>Israel still refuses to extradite SOLOMON MOREL, a
>Polish ZHID, who commanded a Nazi extermination camp
>in Swietochlowice, Poland.
>Morel was the camp Kommandant from February to November
>1945. Documents and witnesses show that Morel personally
>beat, tortured and killed 1,538 persons there.
>After the war, Morel supervised slave labour camps for the
>Jew-led Communist regime of Poland’s Internal Security.
>Israel has since 1992 refused to extradite the ZHID
>murderer Morel to Poland, where he would stand trial
>for war crimes.
>Morel’s case was featured in 1993 on the CBS-TV
>program “60 Minutes”.
>I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant
TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.
We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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Well worth worth reading by those with brains.
It seems that Iamhere is not all there, so he is out.
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:49:14 GMT, BenJKramer
>From: Ken McVay
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
>Newsgroups:
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>NOTE: Do not print this out if you reside in Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.
>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.
>From: [email protected]
>Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
>Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc
>
>22.1.2001
>
>DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
>
>Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
>PORNO- und ABZOCKMAFIA.
>
>Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
>den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
>machen, werden andere Meldungen – die tatsaechlich
>veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
>bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.
>
>Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
>es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
>Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
>durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
>Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
>auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
>einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche und alle irren
>Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
>Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.
>
>Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
>Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
>und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
>der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
>”Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis” offenbar problemlos
>entfliehen konnte. Wie das?
>
>Der Direktor dieses noblen “Etablishments” und weitere
>30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
>verhaftet. Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
>Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
>oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
>”Ueberredungskunst” oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
>Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
>entgegensetzen?
>
>Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
>die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
>schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
>In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
>Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
>beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
>Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
>und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
>Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
>einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
>gezeigt. Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
>auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.
>
>Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
>(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
>Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
>Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
>Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
>vor, Jude zu sein. Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
>nur der groesste antisemitische und rassistische
>Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
>fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
>Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher, Holocaust-Luegner
>und auch Massenmoerder ist.
>
>Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
>Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
>Ganoven und Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
>Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
>hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
>Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
>des von “Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk” fuer nur 12 Monate
>Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
>dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.
>
>Sei’s wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
>dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
>diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten –
>und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.
>
>Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
>Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
>und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
>bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
>muessen sie als Juden nichts.
>
>Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
>gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
>Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
>Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
>(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
>voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)
>
>Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
>wie bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
>und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
>”Holocaustdenkmaeler” (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
>weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).
>
>Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
>Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
>Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
>noch keine “Wiedergutmachungen” und “Entschuldigungen”
>(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
>der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
>dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.
>
>Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
>wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
>und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
>Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
>davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
>Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.
>
>
>
>I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.
>
>CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
>Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
>327 Cortleigh Boulevard
>Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
>Tel: 416-785-4574.
>
>alternate
>
>KASPU COM
>2788 Bathurst St.
>Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
>Tel: 416-789-5691
>(FAX) 416-789-5691
>E-Mail: [email protected]
>
>
>My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
>Donald Ray Ellis
>aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
>108 E. Victory Street
>Star City, Arkansas 71667
>Tel: (870) 628-1437
>Email: voic[email protected]
>
>
>Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
>night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
>Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
>I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
>regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
>1-250-616-9431
>Or, VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to work:(780)492-0473
>
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>National Alliance – www.natvan.com
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:10:08 +0100, “Steve”
>Have you seen the photos of the mass slaughter of Germans that
>Eisenhower did very quietly *after* the war was over?
>If not, please look at the scanned images of the rarely seen article
>from a magazine in 1989:
>http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Eisenhower.html
On Sun, 20 August 2006 08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:
This is more than true, if you read the book “OTHER LOSSES” by
Bacque!
It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.
Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!
>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, “Schorsch”
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Schorsch
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe
>>> Was there some point you wished to make?
>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…
>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike’s Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest…….
>>>From: [email protected] (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: “Ike”‘s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF “IKE’S DEATH CAMPS”
>>>By Martin Brech
>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in ‘the land of the free’?”
>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>”Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect… Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks…One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald…The book blames Eisenhower. ‘The German is a beast,’
>>>Ike had written…But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly…It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton…Ignoring the book is not enough.”
>>>Pat Buchanan’s courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the “banality of evil”,
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.
>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the “Battle of
>>>the Bulge”, my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a “repo depo” (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.
>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.
>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.
>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.
>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.
>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from “higher up”. No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term “war criminal” was just beginning to come into fashion.
>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners’ food, and that these orders came from “higher up”. But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.
>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the “offense”, and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, “Why?” he mumbled,
>>>”Target practice,” and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn’t tell if any
>>>had been hit.
>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.
>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of “my country, right or wrong, my country,” which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.
>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.
>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. “Yankee
>>>traders” were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.
>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the “graveyard shift”, from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn’t bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.
>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn’t
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.
>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.
>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing — both felt a
>>>touch of spring.
>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed “mystical”. However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)
>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).
>>>However, on this day we were happy.
>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly ‘broke the ice’, and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German (“Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen”). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>”Eisenhower jacket” so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.
>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.
>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow ‘killing fields’.
>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were “camp followers”, selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn’t think
>>>they deserved our treatment.
>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a “fancy Nazi
>>>medal”, which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him “off
>>>her back”, but I didn’t think one of our ‘death camps’ was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his “dirty work”.
>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible — that is, when they weren’t chased
>>>away.
>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by “displaced persons”
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.
>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the “contraband”
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.
>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more “available”, but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was “just friends”
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.
>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies’ atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government’ s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.
>>>I realized it’s difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to “talk” because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I “spoke out” recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that “the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear.” And, in any case, “the truth shall out”.
>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.
>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301
>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…
Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/
He himself is some kind of “Holocaust Denier”, when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn’t mention any German suffering:
https://nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources “gassed millions of
Jews”?!
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
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I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
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May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged “REFUGEES” from israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!
Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!
>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as “REFUGEES”, to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha’Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.
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Notice that this is an honest ZYD professor from Israel, who, after much
research, is making public his findings, not some anti-semite.
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:51:00 -0700, Frank Arthur
>From: “Zionism is a cancer growing on Uncle Sam’s ass. -”
>
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>Subject: Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
>Date: 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800
>Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
>By Khalid Amayreh
>Feb 12, 2007, 19:15
>A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
>canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
>making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
>unfounded.
>Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
>in a new book, published recently in Italy, that “there is a factual
>basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.”
>”I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
>among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
>don’t claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
>Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
>act and justified it.”
>In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz Monday, 12
>February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
>records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
>Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.
>The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
>March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
>and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
>Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
>them.
>The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
>seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
>Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
>sentenced to death and burned at the stake.
>”I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
>not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
>have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
>prayers known from the Jewish prayer book,” Toaff was quoted as
>saying.
>He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn’t use
>human blood on Passover was not entirely true.
>”Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
>Passover.
>”Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
>Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
>powers of children’s blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
>Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood.”
>Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
>religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
>even human blood.
>Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
>Jewish leaders and commentators for “vindicating anti-Semitism” and
>giving anti-Semites a “cause celebre.”
>Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
>to explain his research once he returned from Italy.
>Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
>Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
>inter alia, “self-hating Jew” and “collaborator with anti-Semites.”
>However, Toaff said he wouldn’t be silenced no matter how vociferous
>are the criticisms of his book.
>”I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
>if the world crucifies me.”
>http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml
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Subject: How Many Holohoax Survivors? Repost
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On 15 Aug 2006 06:29:08 -0700, in alt.revisionism “GB”
wrote:
How Many Survivors Are There?
Studies counted on to allocate funds for the distressed are far apart
on the number.
Stewart Ain – Staff Writer
Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned.
Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors
worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found
688,000.
The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the
Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor
differences from his previous effort.
Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys.
Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to
distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy
survivors worldwide. The funds were obtained as part of a settlement
for unpaid Holocaust-era insurance claims against German and other
European companies.
Brooklyn Federal Judge Edward Korman, who is presiding over the $1.25
billion Swiss bank settlement, has been using the original Ukeles
survey to allocate money to needy Jewish survivors.
Both surveys found the highest percentage of Jewish survivors are
living in Israel. In his updated version, Ukeles reported the figure at
265,000, or 38.5 percent. Della Pergola put the number at 511,000, or
46.8 percent.
The numbers breakdown of where survivors are living:
The United States: Ukeles, 110,000 survivors, or 16 percent; Della
Pergola, 174,000, or 15.9 percent.
Europe: Ukeles, 126,000, or 18.3 percent; Della Pergola, 229,000, or 21
percent.
The former Soviet Union: Ukeles, 150,000, or 21.8 percent; Della
Pergola, 146,000, or 13.4 percent.
Other parts of the world: Ukeles, 38,000, or 5.5 percent; Della
Pergola, 32,000, or 2.9 percent.
The difference in the studies stems from the fact that Della Pergola
included as survivors Jews who lived in Arab countries – Morocco,
Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and Algeria – that passed anti-Jewish
laws. Ukeles did not.
Asked his reaction to the disparities, Ukeles said that since their
purpose is to determine allocations based on need, a new needs
assessment study might be in order.
In such a study in 2000 for the Claims Conference, Ukeles found 119,000
survivors in the former Soviet Union in need – almost double that of
any other area.
Gideon Taylor, executive vice president of the Claims Conference, said
his organization’s allocations committee would be meeting Monday to
vote on staff recommendations for the allocation of more than $50
million.
Taylor said the staff considered both the Della Pergola and Ukeles
studies, as well as recent needs studies performed in the United
States, Israel and the former Soviet Union. He said those studies would
soon be posted on his organization’s Web site.
Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the World Jewish Congress,
said despite the different number of survivors in the studies, the
percentage of Jews does not differ markedly except in Israel and the
former Soviet Union.
He said Della Pergola’s figures represent a “dramatic shift” in
populations that “call into question the basis on which distributions
have been made.”
Taylor stressed that both the Claims Conference and the World Jewish
Restitution Organization “can only act in an empirical manner” and
thus must base their allocations “on the most recent statistics and
on the basis of where the greatest needs are.”
The allocations committee of the Claims Conference will be submitting
its recommendations to its full membership in coming weeks. Steinberg
said the WJC, a member of the Claims Conference, would take into
consideration Della Pergola’s statistics when voting on the
committee’s recommendations.
Israel Singer, president of the Claims Conference, said that instead of
each organization determining on its own how best to allocate
settlement monies to needy survivors, there should be a “global,
coordinated strategy” in determining allocations. He said it should
apply to the insurance and Swiss bank settlements, as well as the
allocations from the Claims Conference.
Samuel Dubbin, an attorney for the Holocaust Survivors Foundation,
welcomed such a move. He said he is convinced that if there was a
global allocation, “there would be enough funds available to meet the
needs of survivors all over the world.”
Singer said he would be meeting shortly after Thanksgiving with Korman
to review the latest demographic statistics and to discuss the global
allocation idea.
“I’d love the judge to look at it and if he has to make allocations
earlier, it does not mean we can’t reassess our allocations based on
what he does,” Singer said.
Singer stressed that all of the settlements combined, along with money
the Claims Conference obtains from various sources, contains hundreds
of millions of dollars that together might meet the needs of survivors
for the next five years.
Any distribution plans that call for allocations beyond that time frame
should be shortened, he said.
“Survivors are dying at the rate of 15 percent a year,” Singer
said. “We should telescope the amount of time allocations are
made.”
In addition, Singer said the money must go directly to help survivors.
If the survivors have moved, they should still receive the money if
they are in need.
“The money should not be an entitlement for places but for
individuals,” he said.
At a meeting this week in Jerusalem, the executive committee of the
Claims Conference decided to press the German government to provide
funds for homecare for Holocaust survivors in need worldwide.
Dubbin pointed out that the Association of Jewish Family and
Children’s Services Agencies in 2002 estimated that a minimum of $30
million is needed annually to care for needy survivors in the United
States.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774
All this quvatch about the ZYDs, but no concern for the many MORE MILLIONS
of Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, German people killed!!
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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos”
>The Accusations
> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.
> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm
> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.
> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…
> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”
> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-
KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]
Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer
>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….
>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>The Kastner Case
>—————–
>Introduction
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
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also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
And also: George Firestone: “George”
and [email protected]
Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.
Reply-To: Frank Arthur
or to [email protected], or [email protected]
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
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From: Ken McVay
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
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Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
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22.1.2001
DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
PORNO- und ABZOCKMAFIA.
Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
machen, werden andere Meldungen – die tatsaechlich
veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.
Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche und alle irren
Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.
Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
“Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis” offenbar problemlos
entfliehen konnte. Wie das?
Der Direktor dieses noblen “Etablishments” und weitere
30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
verhaftet. Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
“Ueberredungskunst” oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
entgegensetzen?
Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
gezeigt. Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.
Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
vor, Jude zu sein. Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
nur der groesste antisemitische und rassistische
Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher, Holocaust-Luegner
und auch Massenmoerder ist.
Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
Ganoven und Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
des von “Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk” fuer nur 12 Monate
Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.
Sei’s wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten –
und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.
Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
muessen sie als Juden nichts.
Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)
Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
wie bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
“Holocaustdenkmaeler” (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).
Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
noch keine “Wiedergutmachungen” und “Entschuldigungen”
(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.
Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.
CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.
alternate
KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: [email protected]
My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: [email protected]
Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Or, other useful websites include:
National Alliance – www.natvan.com
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.
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Subject: GERMANY: “I See an Absolutely Hostile Mood Towards Jews” GERMAN JEWISH COUNCIL PRESIDENT CHARLOTTE KNOBLOCH-Repost
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:55:20 GMT, in can.politics “torresD”
GERMAN JEWISH COUNCIL PRESIDENT CHARLOTTE KNOBLOCH
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434508,00.html
SPIEGEL ONLINE:
When you took office you said one of the main focuses of your work
would be the struggle against right-wing extremism.
Has the conflict in the Middle East worsened anti-Semitic
attitudes in Germany?
Knobloch: It has, unfortunately.
I see an absolutely hostile attitude towards Jews and Israel.
Signs that read “Israel — Child Murderers” are being carried through the
streets at demonstrations here, for example.
The police don’t confiscate these placards.
Persons that deal with the issue only marginally,
or not at all, are influenced negatively.
That’s the basis of this hostile attitude.
You can find it everywhere.
We’re currently organizing a fundraising concert, for example,
and even there we get negative, anti-Semitic mail.
No distinctions are made.
We’re sucked into the current Middle East conflict one hundred percent,
as Jewish citizens in Germany.
And those politicians who latch onto this hostile mood with carefully
prepared statements are of course doing better than ever.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Who do you mean?
Knobloch:
Oskar Lafontaine, the leader of the Left Party, for example.
Left Party parliamentarians aren’t particularly objective in their
evaluation of the catastrophe in the Middle East.
I’m also thinking of Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul, the Minister of Economic
Aid and Development and member of the Social Democrat Party (SPD).
These people encourage the hostile mood against Jews.
I’ve never experienced anything quite like this.
It’s on a new level.
This hostile mood is now more noticeable in the German public
than it used to be.
It’s infiltrated every group and every level of society.
I hope this development can be reversed by a joint effort on
the part of all democratic forces.
Otherwise all the positive images I have about Germany would be put
into question.
I unpacked my suitcase in this country.
And I don’t want to have to repack it.
Interview conducted by Sebastian Fischer and Claus Christian Malzahn.
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
~~
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On 8 Dec 2006 13:38:56 -0800, in can.politics “krOne”
“Plus Ca Change, Plus C’est la Meme Chose”
The more things change, the more they stay the same. As the
article below shows, Jews thruout history have been allied with the
ruling aristocracy and assisted in the abuse and oppression of the
non-Jewish majority. And guess what…that is exactly what is
happening today. Super-wealthy white gentiles and organized Jews
are working together to eliminate national borders, to flood our
Western countries with poor, incompatible immigrants from the third
world, and to move much of our industry to countries where slave
labor is available – all for the purpose of enriching themselves
while reducing our living standard to that of a Chinese peasant.
If you have wondered how the Jews manage to get away with what they
do – their infernal ‘holocaust’ racketeering and forcing our
governments to blindly support their outlaw state of Israel (which
now includes fighting wars against Israel’s enemies) as well as
their endless financial scams – here is your answer. They’ve got
very powerful allies in high places. Those allies who protect and
enable them – in exchange for a quid pro quo, of course – are our
very own traitorous elites.
************************************************************
Jewish Elite Is Part Of The Governing Class
By Henry Makow, PhD
Israel Shahak’s book “Jewish History, Jewish Religion; The Weight of
3000 Years” (1994) shows how the past provides a key to understanding
the present.**
According to Shahak, the Jewish elite always had a symbiotic
relationship with the governing class. The Jews would “administer the
oppression” of the masses. In return, the governing class would force
Jews to obey their “leaders.” Sometimes a pogrom would do the trick.
The “Jewish” position was always strongest when the governing class
was most at odds with the masses, and when there was least national
feeling.
Today, specific Jews (in finance, government, education and especially
the media) play a prominent role in the world elite’s preparation for
“globalization,” which many see as a modern form of feudalism. Once
again, “anti Semitism” is exploited to mobilize Jews (and Christians)
to support oppression (e.g. “The War on Terror”), disarm opposition
and to deflect blame.
THE TRUTH IS BITTER
History is propaganda about the past. Most historians don’t tell the
truth because they would be fired. Israel Shahak, who died in 2001,
was not an historian. He was a professor of organic chemistry at
Hebrew University, who had a scientist’s respect for objective truth.
He was also a concentration camp survivor, an Israeli army veteran and
a campaigner for Arab human rights.
History repeats itself because we lie about it. Shahak believes that
Jews need to re-educate themselves about their history and religion.
Jews are “a closed society” that uses “anti Semitism” to quash
criticism, which is considered “hatred” or “self hatred.”
Shahak says Judaism is largely a primitive, materialistic,
authoritarian credo. The Talmud is devoted to Jewish supremacy and
contempt for Christ, Christianity and non-Jews in general. The Cabala
embraces many gods including Satan.
The following is a brief summary of Shahak’s argument in the chapter,
“The Weight of History.”
1. In spite of persecution, Jews throughout history formed an integral
part of the privileged classes. The poorest Jew was immeasurably
better off than the serfs. Until roughly 1880, their most important
social function “was to mediate the oppression of the peasants on
behalf of the nobility and the Crown.”
2. Classical Judaism (1000-1880 AD) developed hatred and contempt for
agriculture as an occupation and for peasants as a class. “The
supposed superiority of Jewish morality and intellect…is bound up
with a lack of sensitivity for the suffering of that major part of
humanity who were especially oppressed during the last 1000 years, the
peasants.” (53)
3. While Gentiles in general were reviled, Jewish laws made an
exception for the elite – king, nobleman,etc. The Jewish community
enjoyed autonomous status and Jewish rabbis and rich were part of the
governing class. Together they oppressed the masses.
http://rense.com/general43/elite.htm
**note: Shahak’s book is available in adobe acrobat format (pdf) for
free download at:
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/JewishHistoryJewishReligion.pdf
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant
TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.
We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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Subject: Wish To Dispose of $3 Million CV Stamp Collections – Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen
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Subject: Wish To Dispose of $3 Million CV Stamp Collections-
Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen
I seek a qualified buyer of all stock, for cash payable to my bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.
If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind.
Am NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.
I mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
Am located in northern Canada.
Reply to: [email protected]
P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.
Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen
Wir suchen einen Käufer von unserer ganzen Aktie, für Bargeld
das zahlbar ist zu unseren Bankiers.
Ungefähr $3 Millionen KatalogwertF, mit Hauptgebieten
des Interesses:
GB
Kanada
Deutschland
Britische Commonwealth
Frankreich
Vereinigten Staaten
Australien
Österreich
Schweiz
Israel usw.
Wenn interessiert, freundlich rät.
Der Grund zum Verkauf, gehend Sehvermögen
blendet.
Ich verliere meine Sicht, und gehe Blinde.
Interessiere mich NICHT für Schicken, oder Auktion, nur volles Bargeschäft.
Wir bedeuten, dass BARGELD für den Käufer alle nimmt, nicht Schecke,
Kann teils Tausch für etwas bedeutsames, wie
zum Beispiel klares Titellandhaus, motorhome, oder bedenken?
Bin in nördlichem Kanada befunden.
P. S. Nigerianisch Scam und ähnlich hat nur als
wertlos nicht beachtet.
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Subject: Israeli “Diplomat” Arrested As Child Molester – Repost
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:14:51 -0400, in soc.culture.usa “serwad”
Provided By: The Associated Press
Last Modified: 9/1/2006 12:38:12 PM
ATLANTA (AP) — An employee of Israel’s consulate in Atlanta was arrested
Thursday on charges that he used the Internet to try to lure a minor into
having sex.
Yosef Sagiv Ofri was indicted by a grand jury in Columbia County yesterday.
District Attorney Daniel Craig of Augusta says the 37-year-old Ofri was
arrested at about 7:30 a.m. outside his home in DeKalb County, near Atlanta.
Craig says authorities also obtained a warrant to search Ofri’s home,
according to a statement from Craig’s office.
The indictment says that Ofri used e-mail and online messages to lure a child
>from Columbia County-about two hours east of Atlanta-for “illegal acts
relating to sodomy, aggravated sodomy, child molestation and aggravated child
molestation.”
Captain Steve Morris of the Columbia County Sheriff’s office said Ofri works
for the Israeli Consulate in Atlanta.
He said officials from the consulate visited with Ofri today at the county’s
detention center, where he is being held.
The Jerusalem Post reports that Ofri is a security officer with the
consulate and carries an Israeli diplomatic passport.
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Subject: Rising Anti-ZYDism in Canada – Repost
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On 1 Aug 2006 17:04:37 -0700, in ab.politics “[email protected]”
With the rising tide of anti-Jewish hostility in Europe getting so much
attention in recent years, it is somewhat surprising that an equally
worrisome trend across the Atlantic has gone largely unnoticed,
mounting anti-Semitism in Canada.
With 360,000 Jews, Canada is home to the fifth largest Jewish community
outside of Israel, and America’s northern neighbor has long prided
itself for its tolerance, openness, and freedom. But that legacy is now
under assault amid a spate of recent, and deeply troubling, incidents.
Over the past few, there have been many high profile anti-Semitic
incidents in Canada. Synagogues have been the targets of arson attacks,
Jewish day schools have received bomb threats, and there have been
numerous property crimes and hate propaganda directed against Jews and
their institutions. The most serious incident occurred in July of 2002,
when David Rosenzweig, an Orthodox Jew, was murdered outside a kosher
restaurant in Toronto by a neo-Nazi skinhead.
For a country that has spent the past two decades fostering
multiculturalism and decrying xenophobia, the spate of anti-Semitism in
Canada is especially disconcerting. The fact that it has received less
global attention than it deserves does not take away from the danger
which it poses to Canadian society and its democratic institutions.
One Jew was already murdered in the heart of Toronto because of his
identity. It is time for the Canadian government to step in and take a
firmer stand against anti-Semitism, before this age-old prejudice
claims any more victims.
Since Stephen Harper assumed the leadership of the new Conservative
Party of Canada, all of the progressive, centrist, practical, reasonable,
pluralistic policies held by the former Progressive Conservative Party of
Canada have been almost completely abolished from the new Conservative
Party of Canada. Furthermore, all socially moderate conservatives
such as Red Tories and Libertarians have been either silenced or purged
>from positions of power within the new Conservative Party of Canada; and
replaced with American style Conservatives who harbour racist, sexist,
homophobic, bigoted, recklessly populist, rigidly social conformist ideals.
Among those who have been card carrying members of the former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance in the past and who are either themselves
still members and/or have influential supporters currently within the
new Conservative Party of Canada seem to be many anti-Semites.
In particular, Stockwell Day, the former leader of the old Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance which has now more or less simply been
rebranded and repackaged as the new Conservative Party of Canada, has
come under suspicion for his past remarks. Charges that Stockwell Day
is an anti-Semite, or at least in the past promoted hostility to Jews,
continue to circulate. During the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
leadership race Stockwell Day tried to lay such allegations to rest.
Yet questions about Stockwell Day’s beliefs persist. Stockwell Day is
currently Canada’s Minister for Public Safety.
Stockwell Day has a past association with James Keegstra, a vile
holocaust denier and notorious anti-Semite. As a church school
principal and spokesman for the Alberta Association of Independent
Church Schools, Stockwell Day promoted a Christian fundamentalist
curriculum that included materials that denounced Jews, Muslims, and
the purported, “liberal-humanist fallacy of democratic government”. And
last but not least, there is the new Conservative Party of Canada
itself-its policies and origins and the people it attracts. The new
Conservative Party of Canada’s own predecessor, the Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance, frequently made racist, sexist,
homophobic, anti-feminist, anti-immigrant, anti-French Canadian,
anti-Quebec, anti-Ontario,anti-Atlantic Canadian,
remarks and blatently Anglo chauvinist appeals.
During the 2000 federal election campaign, the former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance had sought to depict the most impoverished and
marginalized section of Canada’s population, the native peoples, as a
“coddled minority”. Unlike the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance, the new
Conservative Party of Canada does not expressly call for a sharp cut in
immigration, but it suggests, even if its subtlety and by way of
remarks made by its backbench MPs, that the Liberals have been allowing
the wrong type of people into the country. Several former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance candidates during the 2000 federal election
campaign made even more blatant appeals to anti-immigrant prejudice.
Calgary Center MP Eric Lowther has said Canadians could use the Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance’s scheme for citizen-initiated referenda to
limit immigration. Betty Granger resigned as a Reform Party/Canadian
Alliance candidate in Winnipeg after she spoke of an “Asian invasion”
of Canada’s West Coast and accused Sri Lankan Tamil immigrants of using
Canada to support “terrorism”. Many of these vile, disgusting,
despicably racist comments from former Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
candidates beg the question: How many of these same candidates,
employees, and MPs both past and present are still actively involved
with the new Conservative Party of Canada?.
Neo-Nazi scumbag James Keegstra and his associate Jim Green, a fellow
anti-Semite and an official in the national Social Credit party,
attended prayer meetings led by current Conservative Party of Canada
foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day. Moreover, according to James
Keegstra, in 1983 and 1984 he and Stockwell Day had chats about
“freedom of speech issues” and James Keegstra’s own case.
In May 1983 the Tory Premier of Alberta, Peter Lougheed, felt it
necessary to deliver a prepared speech to the provincial legislature
that condemned James Keegstra’s views as “unequivocally racial,
religiously prejudiced, historically inaccurate and distorted.” He
pledged the province would undertake a review of the curriculum and
classroom monitoring to ensure “greater tolerance and respect for
minority groups.”
Reputedly, Stockwell Day first met James Keegstra in 1983, after James
Keegstra, who had been fired from his job at the Eckville public high
school, moved to Bentley so he could work as an auto mechanic. Earlier
this year, Green told freelance journalist Gordon Laird that Day “had
said he wanted to be one of the first ones in there when Keegstra
opened his garage.”
In Bentley, James Keegstra continued his fascist political activities.
He won election to the post of second vice-president for Alberta of the
national Social Credit Party and with Green founded the Christian
Defence League to raise founds for his battles with the Alberta
government and courts. In 1984, the arch neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel made the
pilgrimage to Bentley to solidarize himself with James Keegstra.
It might appear strange that someone like the new Conservative Party of
Canada’s foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day, who was involved in his
own struggle with the government and interested in making a career in
politics, did not take pains to disassociate himself from fascists scum
like James Keegstra and Jim Green. But anti-Semitism has long had a
popular base in rural Alberta, where it has fed off two distinct but
intertwined traditions,
that of extreme right-wing Protestant fundamentalism and extreme
right-wing populism.
>From 1935 to 1971, Alberta was ruled by a party that drew its name and
initial political inspiration from the doctrine of Social Credit.
“Bible Bill” Aberhart, the preacher who founded Alberta’s Social Credit
Party, made openly anti-Semitic speeches and, as a concession to
the social credit ideologues in his party, founded a government board
to disseminate social credit propaganda, principally populist and
anti-Semitic writings. In 1947-48, Aberhart’s successor as Alberta
premier, Ernest Manning (father of Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
Preston Manning), purged the party’s leadership of anti-Semites and
closed down the Social Credit Board. But anti-Semitic views continued
to circulate among the Social Credit periphery and feed into the
religious intolerance promoted by extreme right-wing Protestant
Fundamentalist sects, who exercised a great deal of power within the
party.
In 1980s Alberta, anti-Semitic views were not the exclusive preserve of
the remnants of the Social Credit party. One reason Alberta Premier
Lougheed publicly denounced James Keegstra was that one of his own Tory
MLAs had given a press interview in which he claimed he had never seen
“any evidence Jews were subject to mass extermination or even
persecuted under the Nazi regime”. This sort of vile, disgusting,
dispicable anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial is to be found within the
grassroots of the new Conservative Party of Canada’s Alberta faction.
Neo-Nazi scumbag trash James Keegstra is a product of rural Alberta’s
right-wing religious/political tradition. Stockwell Day, by contrast,
was drawn to Bentley, which has been called the buckle in Alberta’s
Bible belt, by his increasing commitment to religious fundamentalism.
While Stockwell Day reportedly disagreed with James Keegstra and Jim
Green about their virulent hatred of Jews, he gravitated to the very
milieu of fundamentalist religion and political reaction from which
they emerged. Moreover, Stockwell Day, whether because of sympathy or
political calculation, saw no reason to vigorously disassociate himself
>from ethier of this Neo-Nazi pigs. For their part, James Keegstra and
Jim Green continue to express admiration for Stockwell Day, thus
further underscoring that their parting, such as it was, was amicable.
Stockwell Day’s successful struggle to secure legal recognition for 15
unlicensed Christian schools, including his own Bentley Christian
Training School, helped precipitate his entry into party politics. In
this fight, Stockwell Day vigorously advocated before various
government bodies the Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) curriculum
prepared by the Texas-based School of Tomorrow. He even said that he
was prepared “to go to jail, if need be” to uphold the right of his
school to chose what it taught.
The ACE curriculum propagated the views of the American religious
right, and arguably its more extreme elements. The curriculum was
criticized by an Alberta government Committee on Tolerance and
Understanding as promoting “a degree of insensitivity towards blacks,
Jews and natives.” According to Ron Ghitter, the Committee’s chairman
and a Tory of Jewish decent, “ACE schools were schools of dogma …the
kids who came out had sort of a twisted Christianity with anti-Semitic
overtones.” Remember folks, the Conservative Party of
Canada’s Stockwell Day could become our next foreign minister!!!.
The ACE curriculum dismissed evolution and espoused “creation science.”
Science booklets instructed, “Not all sickness is caused by demons, but
some sickness is.”
Democracy was condemned, while Ian Smith, the prime minister of the
white minority-led Republic of Rhodesia, Ian Paisley, Northern
Ireland’s anti-Catholic demagogue, and Chilean military dictator
Augusto Pinochet were lauded. Democracy, declared an ACE publication,
“represent(s) the ultimate deification of man, which is the very
essence of humanism and totally alien to God’s word.”
Obviously, there is the difficulty of explaining how a man purportedly
free of antipathy to Jews simultaneously found himself keeping company
with virulent anti-Semites and fighting for the right to use a school
curriculum which included anti-Semitic materials. More fundamentally,
Stockwell Day’s defenders are most anxious that his fundamentalist
beliefs and the right-wing political tradition from which he emerges
not be made the object of public scrutiny, because they recognize the
vast majority of Canadians will find them abhorrent.
If not anti-Semitism per se, certainly intolerant attitudes toward
women, jews, gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, trangendered people,
aboriginals, and other historically marginal groups seem to be integral
both to the new Conservative Party of Canada and the
political-religious make-up of Stockwell Day and many others within the
party.
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Subject: Re: ZYD/Jew Rudolph Kastner Wore a Nazi SS Uniform !! ZYD KOLABORACI With Nazis! Repost
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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos”
>The Accusations
> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.
> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm
> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.
> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…
> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”
> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-
KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]
Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer
>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….
>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>The Kastner Case
>—————–
>Introduction
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
>Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid
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On 12 Aug 2006 11:22:59 -0700, in can.politics “AlX”
The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist – tho many
Jews are not willing to live there – is as a refuge for Jewish
fugitives from around the world. If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
Israel, he is home free. Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
other country to face criminal charges – not even to the U.S.
without whose support Israel would not even exist.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721
Jacob “Kobi” Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
$57 million of ill-gotten gains.
As todays New York Times reports:
New York – Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.
In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
to be distributed to favored employees.
The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
issued for his arrest.
Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
extensive business operations.
In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
prosecutors have asked to be frozen.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php
(End of quote)
Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.
This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
attacks on 9/11.
Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad’s
involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:
At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
of lives.
Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
nationality.
Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo’s vice president,
reportedly said, “It was possible that the attack warning was
broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
reports of other recipients of the message.”
The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
matter. There have been no media reports since.
Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad’s
headquarters are located.
Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider
trading.”
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985
Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
>from justice. Why didn’t the police arrest him before he was able to
get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.
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Subject: ZYD Ritual Murders in Russia – Repost
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white “Whip”
“JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS” IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING
On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, “disappeared” in the
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk. their burnt bodies have been found in
a sewage pit.
A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic
Jews for ritual purposes.
Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in
present-day new democratic Russia.
Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.
“I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination”, he said.
Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.
A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.
The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor
overweight among the jury.
“The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without
burial”, Mr Nazarov said.
“And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who … copies American gangstes
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs,
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin”, Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with
the Moscow paper.
http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:52:31 -0400, in soc.culture.german “127.0.0.1”
<[email protected]> wrote:
One Third of the Holocaust
Download this video!
http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=692
A 4 hour movie on the subject of Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec.
=======
Judea Declares War on Germany
1 hr 12 min 44 sec – Jul 16, 2006
Download this video!
http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=690
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel
wartime propaganda?
This fascinating documentary investigates the myths surrounding
the legend.
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne”
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”
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On Tue, 30 May 2006 12:19:07 -0000, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
wrote:
>On 2006-05-30, le Corbeau
>> wow! is Jew boy a pedophile too??? Such a pervert, his parents must be
>> mortified!
Why do you think that Dezi’s dad, a cop, committed suicide?
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:28:36 -0400, “Gary Renzetti”
>Frank,
>You are posting absolute horseshit.
>A Canadian bookkeeper can NOT “guarantor” a passport application, period!
Unqualified bookkeepers, with no training, but who pay the $200 fee, and join
the Society of Professional Accountants run by Laura Waters, are now permitted
by the Canadian government to sign as guarantors for passports.
In fact, CGA Alberta also accepted 52 unqualified bookkeepers in 1988 as
members when they paid their fees, and these unqualified bookkeepers are
also allowed to sign as passport guarantors!!
Is this how Israel is now getting lots of passports for their MOSSAD
criminals?
>Saying that, a Canadian accountant *can*, which sticks in my tookis.
>Somehow, the Canadian government thinks that an accountant is more
>trustworthy than a Canadian-born bricklayer or for that matter, a
>Canadian-born prostitute (say what?). Accountants, in my experience with the
>breed, are a helluva lot less honest than either bricklayers or whores.
On this point you will get no argument from me.
Just look at all the massive commercial frauds in Canada and the USa, all
involving prominent accounting firms!!
That is why CA stands for CROOKED ACCOUNTANT!!
>How the fuck does a university education make someone a reliable,
>trustworthy person?
>”Frank Arthur”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:36:57 -0700, Adenoid Heinkel
>>
>>
>> Not just the US authorities, but also those throughout Europe as well
>> as Asia should be highly suspicious of ALL Canadian passports and
>> their holders.
>>
>> Not only are unqualified bookkeepers , WHO HAVE NO UNIVERSITY
>> OR SIMILARTLY APPROVED COURSES OF INSTRUCTION!,approved
>> by the Canadiangovernment to guarantee people applying for a Canadian
>> passport, but do not forget the many tens of thousands of Canadian
>> passports
>> supposed “LOST” each year by the Canadian Passport department.
>>
>> Quite apart from the thousands of passports fabricated by the
>> Israelis!!
>>
>> Now, the USA will require that Canadians entering the USA as of next year
>> must also have a valid passport.
>>
>> With lax guarantors in Canada, no wonder the US authorities, and in New
>> Zealand are concerned!!
>>
>> Notice that the traditional bookkeepers/accountants are not objecting to
>> including these unqualified bookkeepers as being the same as CA,CGA,CMA.
>>
>> Could this be because the older groups are too busy fighting all the
>> lawsuits
>> for CRIMINAL fraud involving their members=CA,CGA?
>>
>> The CAs and CGAs do not care that the unqualified PA, APA and RPA , all of
>> whom have no university education or similar qualifications for their
>> competency, are now equal in status to gurantee Canadian passports,
>> since all are now equal in non-credibility!!
>>
>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:57:24 -0700, dandelion
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>No wonder the INS makes it difficult for Canadians to enter the USA.
>>
>>>>They should make it even harder,especially since thousands of Canadian
>>>>passports are stolen with ease each year from Canadian Government
>>>>offices, as admitted regularly to media!!
>>
>>>>On 26 Sep 2004 12:20:32 -0700, [email protected]
>>>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>>
>>>>>A qualified Engineer wonders about the so-called standards for a
>>>>>Guarantor for a Canadian Passport.
>>
>>>>>Read the article following HIS posting, then complain to your MP.
>>
>>>>>From: “HCH”
>>>>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
>>>>>Subject: The Passport Guarantor
>>>>>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:19:31 -0400
>>
>>>>>The information required on the Canadian Passport Application Forms is
>>>>>weird. This Declaration of Guarantor is really bizarre. Being a
>>>>>Professional Engineer (I’m retired now), born outside Canada but a
>>>>>Canadian Citizen, makes me MORE trustworthy than a full-blooded
>>>>>Canadian who is an Electrician or Carpenter or with whatever trade.
>>>>>The Application form tells me that a person BORN in Canada and a
>>>>>trades-person can NOT be trusted; it also tells me that a person with
>>>>>a professional states + and only 3 years in Canada + a Canadian
>>>>>citizen CAN be trusted (corrupt or not). Hello, that looks to me as
>>>>>PURE discrimination. Which THINKING TANK added such a stupid
>>>>>requirement? They must have been at that day brain-dead. Then further
>>>>>down the application form TWO more persons are required to vouch for
>>>>>you. No Passport for you if don’t want to involve anyone.
>>
>>>>>ENOUGH TO CAUSE US IMMIGRATION TO BAR CANADIANS!!
>>>>>Newsgroups: can.legal,can.general,tor.general,
>>>>>soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
>>>>>Subject: Canada Passport Guarantors-WHY Unqualified Bookkeepers!!
>>
>>>>>Info provided as courtesy to public, under FOI.
>>
>>>>>Good Morning
>>
>>>>>I just had a call from the passport office in Ottawa and the PA’s have
>>>>>been officially approved as guarantors for passports as of March 3,
>>>>>2003.
>>>>>
>>>>>As the passport office has a loggin to our website to electronically
>>>>>check for current paid up members, please make sure that all information
>>>>>on
>>>>>your website listing is correct and up to date and that your account is
>>>>>in
>>>>>good standing.
>>
>>>>>Laura Waters-Taverner, PA
>>>>>President
>>
>>>>>MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP (professional accountants) ARE NOT RECOGNISED AS
>>>>>QUALIFIED ACCOUNTANTS, BY THE GOVERNMENT OF ALBERTA, WHO ONLY
>>>>>RECOGNISE CA, CGA, AND CMA!!
>>
>>>>>The Canadian Passport Office has no business allowing these
>>>>>unqualified bookkeepers to be Guarantors for Passports, when even the
>>>>>province
>>>>>does not recognise them as qualified accountants!!
>>
>>>>>In fact, these people could even be guaranteeing for undesirable,
>>>>>criminals, terrorists and others that the USA would like to keep
>>>>>from entering the USA!!
>>
>>>>>The phone for MICHAEL HUTTON, Director Passport Canada is:
>>>>>1-819-994-3530
>>
>>>>>Even qualified, investigated Commissioners for Oaths are not permitted
>>>>>as Guarantors for Passports, while unqualified, unvetted bookkeepers
>>>>>are!!
>>
>>>>>The US INS are now really getting annoyed with Canada, and Canadian
>>>>>passports.
>>>>>They claim that criminals, dope dealers, and even terrorists will now
>>>>>find it even easier to get Canadian passports.
>>
>>>>>It seems Passports Canada just does not give a damn!!!
>>
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Frank Arthur, scribbling from his hovel in some trailer park in the USA,
has not even a clue about the true situation in communist Canada!!
However, he is to be thanked for keeping the pot boiling on this topic.
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:07:27 GMT, ErnstZundholz
>On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:28:36 -0400, “Gary Renzetti”
>>Frank,
>>You are posting absolute horseshit.
>>A Canadian bookkeeper can NOT “guarantor” a passport application, period!
Unqualified bookkeepers, with no training, but who pay the $200 fee, and join
the Society of Professional Accountants run by Laura Waters, are now permitted
by the Canadian government to sign as guarantors for passports.
In fact, CGA Alberta also accepted 52 unqualified bookkeepers in 1988 as
members when they paid their fees, and these unqualified bookkeepers are
also allowed to sign as passport guarantors!!
Is this how Israel is now getting lots of passports for their MOSSAD
criminals?
>>Saying that, a Canadian accountant *can*, which sticks in my tookis.
>>Somehow, the Canadian government thinks that an accountant is more
>>trustworthy than a Canadian-born bricklayer or for that matter, a
>>Canadian-born prostitute (say what?). Accountants, in my experience with the
>>breed, are a helluva lot less honest than either bricklayers or whores.
>On this point you will get no argument from me.
>Just look at all the massive commercial frauds in Canada and the USa, all
>involving prominent accounting firms!!
>That is why CA stands for CROOKED ACCOUNTANT!!
>>How the fuck does a university education make someone a reliable,
>>trustworthy person?
>>”Frank Arthur”
>>news:[email protected]…
>>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:36:57 -0700, Adenoid Heinkel
>>>
>>> Not just the US authorities, but also those throughout Europe as well
>>> as Asia should be highly suspicious of ALL Canadian passports and
>>> their holders.
>>> Not only are unqualified bookkeepers , WHO HAVE NO UNIVERSITY
>>> OR SIMILARTLY APPROVED COURSES OF INSTRUCTION!,approved
>>> by the Canadiangovernment to guarantee people applying for a Canadian
>>> passport, but do not forget the many tens of thousands of Canadian
>>> passports supposedly “LOST” each year by the Canadian Passport department.
>>> Quite apart from the thousands of passports fabricated by the
>>> Israelis!!
>>> Now, the USA will require that Canadians entering the USA
>>> must also have a valid passport.
>>> With lax guarantors in Canada, no wonder the US authorities, and in New
>>> Zealand are concerned!!
>>> Notice that the traditional bookkeepers/accountants are not objecting to
>>> including these unqualified bookkeepers as being the same as CA,CGA,CMA.
>>> Could this be because the older groups are too busy fighting all the
>>> lawsuits for CRIMINAL fraud involving their members=CA,CGA?
>>> The CAs and CGAs do not care that the unqualified PA, APA and RPA , all of
>>> whom have no university education or similar qualifications for their
>>> competency, are now equal in status to gurantee Canadian passports,
>>> since all are now equal in non-credibility!!
>
>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:57:24 -0700, dandelion
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>No wonder the INS makes it difficult for Canadians to enter the USA.
>>>>>They should make it even harder,especially since thousands of Canadian
>>>>>passports are stolen with ease each year from Canadian Government
>>>>>offices, as admitted regularly to media!!
>>>>>On 26 Sep 2004 12:20:32 -0700, [email protected]
>>>>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>>>>>>A qualified Engineer wonders about the so-called standards for a
>>>>>>Guarantor for a Canadian Passport.
>>>>>>Read the article following HIS posting, then complain to your MP.
>>>>>>From: “HCH”
>>>>>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
>>>>>>Subject: The Passport Guarantor
>>>>>>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:19:31 -0400
>>>
>>>>>>The information required on the Canadian Passport Application Forms is
>>>>>>weird. This Declaration of Guarantor is really bizarre. Being a
>>>>>>Professional Engineer (I’m retired now), born outside Canada but a
>>>>>>Canadian Citizen, makes me MORE trustworthy than a full-blooded
>>>>>>Canadian who is an Electrician or Carpenter or with whatever trade.
>>>>>>The Application form tells me that a person BORN in Canada and a
>>>>>>trades-person can NOT be trusted; it also tells me that a person with
>>>>>>a professional states + and only 3 years in Canada + a Canadian
>>>>>>citizen CAN be trusted (corrupt or not). Hello, that looks to me as
>>>>>>PURE discrimination. Which THINKING TANK added such a stupid
>>>>>>requirement? They must have been at that day brain-dead. Then further
>>>>>>down the application form TWO more persons are required to vouch for
>>>>>>you. No Passport for you if don’t want to involve anyone.
>>>>>>ENOUGH TO CAUSE US IMMIGRATION TO BAR CANADIANS!!
>>>>>>Newsgroups: can.legal,can.general,tor.general,
>>>>>>soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
>>>>>>Subject: Canada Passport Guarantors-WHY Unqualified Bookkeepers!!
>>>>>>Info provided as courtesy to public, under FOI.
>>>>>>Good Morning
>>>>>>I just had a call from the passport office in Ottawa and the PA’s have
>>>>>>been officially approved as guarantors for passports as of March 3,
>>>>>>2003.
>>>>>>As the passport office has a loggin to our website to electronically
>>>>>>check for current paid up members, please make sure that all information on
>>>>>>your website listing is correct and up to date and that your account is
>>>>>>in good standing.
>>>>>>Laura Waters-Taverner, PA
>>>>>>President
>>>>>>MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP (professional accountants) ARE NOT RECOGNISED AS
>>>>>>QUALIFIED ACCOUNTANTS, BY THE GOVERNMENT OF ALBERTA, WHO ONLY
>>>>>>RECOGNISE CA, CGA, AND CMA!!
>>>>>>The Canadian Passport Office has no business allowing these
>>>>>>unqualified bookkeepers to be Guarantors for Passports, when even the
>>>>>>provinces do not recognise them as qualified accountants!!
>>>>>>In fact, these people could even be guaranteeing for undesirable,
>>>>>>criminals, terrorists and others that the USA would like to keep
>>>>>>from entering the USA!!
>>>>>>The phone for MICHAEL HUTTON, Director Passport Canada is:
>>>>>>1-819-994-3530
>>>>>>Even qualified, investigated Commissioners for Oaths are not permitted
>>>>>>as Guarantors for Passports, while unqualified, unvetted bookkeepers
>>>>>>are!!
>>>>>>The US INS are now really getting annoyed with Canada, and Canadian
>>>>>>passports.
>>>>>>They claim that criminals, dope dealers, and even terrorists will now
>>>>>>find it even easier to get Canadian passports.
>>>>>>It seems Passports Canada just does not give a damn!!!
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, “princeandy”
>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.
A lot of good ideas!
Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!
Judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!
>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!
>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!
>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.
>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.
>>A few more thoughts on the subject.
>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.
>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.
>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>> AIDS spreaders
>> rapists
>> drug dealers
>> home invaders
>> armed robbers
>> pederasts and similar child molesters
>> crooked liars/lawyers
>> corrupt judges
>> corrupt politicians
>> insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>> members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>> useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>> criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>> any spreader of any disease,including STD – this would
>> obviously include most faggots
>> white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>> dollars (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>> how they would exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)
>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:
>> crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>> vivisection
>> medical experiments without anaesthetic
>> target practice for police and military
>> beheading
>> hanging
>> barbecueing by electrocution
>> drawing & quartering
>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>> guillotining, very popular in France
>> flaying alive until dead
>> stoning to death – popular in some jurisdictions
>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, “Robert Sveinson”
>>
>>>”Roedy Green”
>>>news:[email protected]…
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone’s surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.
>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.
>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.
>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.
>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal. They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.
>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.
>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.
>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.
>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.
>>>> “Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini.”
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament’s human rights commission
>>>> on Bush’s atrocities in the Iraq war.
>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush’s war crimes
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Subject: Holohoax Story Starts to Crumble – Repost
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:59:20 +0200, in alt.revisionism “Heinrich”
All across Europe, from Scandinavia to Britain, from France to Switzerland,
Europeans are waking up to the scandal that is the Jew-imposed Holocaust
story and its related laws which make questioning the Jewish version of
World War II a criminal offence.
In Switzerland, the gloves are off: Swiss justice minister, Christoph
Blocher, has now openly called on the Swiss government to repeal the law
which makes historical revisionism illegal.
Minister Blocher, leader of the Swiss Peoples’ Party, is on a campaign to
change the law, according to the Neue Zuercher Zeitung (NZZ) newspaper –
even if it will impinge upon the sensitivities of minority groups, including
the country’s Jewish communities.
Blocher claims that freedom of expression is more important than protecting
the sensibilities of minority groups, NZZ wrote. Blocher just returned from
a trip to Turkey where a public discussion of the Armenian genocide is de
facto punishable by a court of law. Upon his return home, Blocher said that
he believes that Swiss laws need to be a beacon for other nations.
As far as the minister is concerned, a ban on free speech in Turkey has made
an effective public discussion of the Armenian genocide and Kurdish issues
there impossible. In effect, he claims that widening the possibilities for
freedom of speech in Switzerland might entice other countries to do the
same.
Article 261 of the Swiss criminal code punishes genocide-denial. Currently,
anybody is punishable in Switzerland if they “deny, belittle, or relativise
genocide or crimes against humanity,” NZZ wrote.
Because of this law, Swiss lawmakers who travel abroad are required to
discuss this topic with their counterparts in those countries which have
been accused, by the global community, of genocide.
Blocher’s trip to Turkey is a case in point. He believes that his having
been required to bring up the topic of the Ottoman Empire’s Armenian
genocide with his Turkish colleagues will have created unnecessary friction
during his meetings in the Eurasian nation. However, the minister’s failure
to guarantee that two Kurdish activists, held in Switzerland would be
extradited to Turkey has also put a damper on Swiss-Turkish relations, in
recent years.
The minister is apparently very much aware that a change in the law will
only entice Holocaust deniers to question the existence of gas chambers as
well. “I do not want that an opinion cannot be uttered only because someone
will be offended by it,” the minister said.
According to the minister, the definition of genocide needs to be decided by
historians. “A debate on the subject, however, will have no basis if diverse
opinions are banned,” he said.
http://www.ejpress.org/article/11252
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Subject: ZYD/Jew Law Overturned by Swiss – Repost
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On 26 Oct 2006 19:42:55 -0700, in soc.culture.canada “Venceremos”
Ministers Announce: Jew Law To Be Overturned in Switzerland
By: Bulov/LSN Staff on: 26.10.2006
Bern, Switzerland – Eight ministers of Switzerland’s white
nationalist-leaning government, including Justice Minister Christoph
Blocher, have announced that Switzerland’s Anti-Racism Act, which
makes it illegal to incite “hatred” against Jews and non-whites by
questioning immigration or the “Holocaust”, will be reviewed and
likely suppressed or thrown out by the end of the year.
The law was passed in 1994 at the insistence of world Judaism,
which hailed it as a great victory and then immediately used it for
the criminal prosecution of seven prominent political dissidents,
many of whom fled to Russia for sanctuary.
The Swiss People’s Party, the national socialist governing party of
Switzerland, also announced that the Federal Commission Against
Racism, set up by Jew Ruth Dreifuss in 1995, will be disbanded
and stripped of its powers to arrest and prosecute “racists”.
The moves demonstrate that the changes Jews have made to
Western cultures over the past twenty years c…
http://www.overthrow.com/
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Subject: Re: ZYD KOLABORACI WITH NAZIS= KASTNER, RUMKOWSLI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More Cases Documented!! Repost
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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg
wrote:
>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.
>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case, one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!
>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG–
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.”
>>>I’ve seen photos of naked children, … and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society).”?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>> Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>> alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: [email protected] (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>>
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland. The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem. However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education. These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book. In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next “relocation”!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA. Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > ————-
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia – [email protected]
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
