Via shaw 3, Grosvenor William 2007 – p3

# 5 The Kastner Case
ZHID KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS – 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some “controversy” about negotiations he undertook
for “the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment,” but that he was “fully rehabilitated” by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, “I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.”

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price…was not too high for me.

“…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

“Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

“As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal…
‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment.”

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
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Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
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Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.

Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
‘controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
ehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
—————-
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

“Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

‘I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations…I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’.

And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying ‘In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
————
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

“The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.

It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another.”

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

“From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

“Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.” (ibid)

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
————-
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

“All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

“Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
“The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense.” (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
“If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
*Ma’ariv*:
“What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p.
268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Majority Judgement
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But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.

Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

“…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which
one can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

n other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The Minority Judgement
————————–
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

“I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc – and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
– nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)

Conclusion
———–
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
‘dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships’.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
‘now dead’.

Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).

Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.

The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.

Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

We shall go on to prove this in detail.
——————————————————————
Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
mail: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, [email protected]
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

Posted by:
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: “George” ,
and [email protected].

Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:55:20 GMT, in can.politics “torresD”
wrote:

GERMAN JEWISH COUNCIL PRESIDENT CHARLOTTE KNOBLOCH
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434508,00.html
SPIEGEL ONLINE:

When you took office you said one of the main focuses of your work
would be the struggle against right-wing extremism.

Has the conflict in the Middle East worsened anti-Semitic
attitudes in Germany?

Knobloch: It has, unfortunately.

I see an absolutely hostile attitude towards Jews and Israel.

Signs that read “Israel — Child Murderers” are being carried through the
streets at demonstrations here, for example.

The police don’t confiscate these placards.

Persons that deal with the issue only marginally,
or not at all, are influenced negatively.

That’s the basis of this hostile attitude.

You can find it everywhere.

We’re currently organizing a fundraising concert, for example,
and even there we get negative, anti-Semitic mail.

No distinctions are made.

We’re sucked into the current Middle East conflict one hundred percent,
as Jewish citizens in Germany.

And those politicians who latch onto this hostile mood with carefully
prepared statements are of course doing better than ever.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Who do you mean?

Knobloch:

Oskar Lafontaine, the leader of the Left Party, for example.

Left Party parliamentarians aren’t particularly objective in their
evaluation of the catastrophe in the Middle East.

I’m also thinking of Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul, the Minister of Economic
Aid and Development and member of the Social Democrat Party (SPD).

These people encourage the hostile mood against Jews.

I’ve never experienced anything quite like this.

It’s on a new level.

This hostile mood is now more noticeable in the German public
than it used to be.

It’s infiltrated every group and every level of society.

I hope this development can be reversed by a joint effort on
the part of all democratic forces.

Otherwise all the positive images I have about Germany would be put
into question.

I unpacked my suitcase in this country.
And I don’t want to have to repack it.

Interview conducted by Sebastian Fischer and Claus Christian Malzahn.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

~~

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On 8 Dec 2006 13:38:56 -0800, in can.politics “krOne”
wrote:

“Plus Ca Change, Plus C’est la Meme Chose”

The more things change, the more they stay the same. As the
article below shows, Jews thruout history have been allied with the
ruling aristocracy and assisted in the abuse and oppression of the
non-Jewish majority. And guess what…that is exactly what is
happening today. Super-wealthy white gentiles and organized Jews
are working together to eliminate national borders, to flood our
Western countries with poor, incompatible immigrants from the third
world, and to move much of our industry to countries where slave
labor is available – all for the purpose of enriching themselves
while reducing our living standard to that of a Chinese peasant.

If you have wondered how the Jews manage to get away with what they
do – their infernal ‘holocaust’ racketeering and forcing our
governments to blindly support their outlaw state of Israel (which
now includes fighting wars against Israel’s enemies) as well as
their endless financial scams – here is your answer. They’ve got
very powerful allies in high places. Those allies who protect and
enable them – in exchange for a quid pro quo, of course – are our
very own traitorous elites.

************************************************************

Jewish Elite Is Part Of The Governing Class
By Henry Makow, PhD

Israel Shahak’s book “Jewish History, Jewish Religion; The Weight of
3000 Years” (1994) shows how the past provides a key to understanding
the present.**

According to Shahak, the Jewish elite always had a symbiotic
relationship with the governing class. The Jews would “administer the
oppression” of the masses. In return, the governing class would force
Jews to obey their “leaders.” Sometimes a pogrom would do the trick.

The “Jewish” position was always strongest when the governing class
was most at odds with the masses, and when there was least national
feeling.

Today, specific Jews (in finance, government, education and especially
the media) play a prominent role in the world elite’s preparation for
“globalization,” which many see as a modern form of feudalism. Once
again, “anti Semitism” is exploited to mobilize Jews (and Christians)
to support oppression (e.g. “The War on Terror”), disarm opposition
and to deflect blame.

THE TRUTH IS BITTER

History is propaganda about the past. Most historians don’t tell the
truth because they would be fired. Israel Shahak, who died in 2001,
was not an historian. He was a professor of organic chemistry at
Hebrew University, who had a scientist’s respect for objective truth.
He was also a concentration camp survivor, an Israeli army veteran and
a campaigner for Arab human rights.

History repeats itself because we lie about it. Shahak believes that
Jews need to re-educate themselves about their history and religion.
Jews are “a closed society” that uses “anti Semitism” to quash
criticism, which is considered “hatred” or “self hatred.”

Shahak says Judaism is largely a primitive, materialistic,
authoritarian credo. The Talmud is devoted to Jewish supremacy and
contempt for Christ, Christianity and non-Jews in general. The Cabala
embraces many gods including Satan.

The following is a brief summary of Shahak’s argument in the chapter,
“The Weight of History.”

1. In spite of persecution, Jews throughout history formed an integral
part of the privileged classes. The poorest Jew was immeasurably
better off than the serfs. Until roughly 1880, their most important
social function “was to mediate the oppression of the peasants on
behalf of the nobility and the Crown.”

2. Classical Judaism (1000-1880 AD) developed hatred and contempt for
agriculture as an occupation and for peasants as a class. “The
supposed superiority of Jewish morality and intellect…is bound up
with a lack of sensitivity for the suffering of that major part of
humanity who were especially oppressed during the last 1000 years, the
peasants.” (53)

3. While Gentiles in general were reviled, Jewish laws made an
exception for the elite – king, nobleman,etc. The Jewish community
enjoyed autonomous status and Jewish rabbis and rich were part of the
governing class. Together they oppressed the masses.

http://rense.com/general43/elite.htm

**note: Shahak’s book is available in adobe acrobat format (pdf) for
free download at:
http://www.solargeneral.com/library/JewishHistoryJewishReligion.pdf

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

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And never forget the prominente ZYD KOLLABORACI, such as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI,
AND WIESENTHAL!!

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:25:22 +1000, “Benja’min” wrote:

>Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization
>in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning
>the Solution of the Jewish Question
>in Europe and
>the Participation of the NMO in the War
>on the Side of Germany
>(1941)

>From Lenni Brenner: The Iron Wall, London 1984, pp.195-197.

>Transcribed and marked up by Einde O’Callaghan for REDS – Die Roten.

>It is often stated in the speeches and utterances of the leading statesmen
>of National Socialist Germany that a prerequisite of the New Order in Europe
>requires the radical solution of the Jewish question through evacuation
>(“Jew-free Europe”).

>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and complete
>through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people,
>Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historic
>boundaries.

>The solving in this manner of the Jewish problem, thus bringing with it once
>and for all the liberation of the Jewish people, is the objective of the
>political activity and the years-long struggle of the Israeli freedom
>movement, the National Military Organization (Irgun Zvai Leumi) in
>Palestine.

>The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich
>government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and
>towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

>Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in
>Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national
>aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.
>Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium
>would be possible and,
>The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the
>interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in
>the Near East.
>Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the
>condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom
>movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively
>lake part in the war on Germany’s side.

>This offer by the NMO, covering activity in the military, political and
>information fields, in Palestine and, according to our determined
>preparations, outside Palestine, would be connected to the military training
>and organizing of Jewish manpower in Europe, under the leadership and
>command of the NMO. These military units would take part in the fight to
>conquer Palestine, should such a front be decided upon.

>The indirect participation of the Israeli freedom movement in the New Order
>in Europe, already in the preparatory stage, would be linked with a
>positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem in conformity with
>the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Jewish people. This would
>extraordinarily strengthen the moral basis of the New Order in the eyes of
>all humanity.

>The cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also be along the
>lines of one of the last speeches of the German Reich Chancellor, in which
>Herr Hitler emphasized that he would utilize every combination and coalition
>in order to isolate and defeat England.

>A brief general view of the formation, essence, and activity of the NMO in
>Palestine:

>The NMO developed partly out of the Jewish self-defense in Palestine and the
>Revisionist movement (New Zionist Organization), with which the NMO was
>loosely connected through the person of Mr. V. Jabotinsky until his death.

>The pro-English attitude of the Revisionist Organization in Palestine, which
>prevented the renewal of the personal union, led in the autumn of this year
>to a complete break between it and the NMO as well as to a thereupon
>following split in the Revisionist movement.

>The goal of the NMO is the establishment of the Jewish state within its
>historic borders.

>The NMO, in contrast to all Zionist trends, rejects colonizatory
>infiltration as the only means of making accessible and gradually taking
>possession of the fatherland and practices its slogan, the struggle and the
>sacrifice, as the only true means for the conquest and liberation of
>Palestine.

>On account of its militant character and its anti-English disposition the
>NMO is forced, under constant persecutions by the English administration, to
>exercise its political activity and the military training of its members in
>Palestine in secret.

>The NMO, whose terrorist activities began as early as the autumn of the year
>1936, became, after the publication of the British White Papers, especially
>prominent in the summer of 1939 through successful intensification of its
>terroristic activity and sabotage of English properly. At that lime these
>activities, as well as daily secret radio broadcasts, were noticed and
>discussed by virtually the entire world press.

>The NMO maintained independent political offices in Warsaw, Paris. London
>and New York until the beginning of the war.

>The office in Warsaw was mainly concerned with the military organization and
>training of the national Zionist youth and was closely connected with the
>Jewish masseswho, especially in Poland, sustained and enthusiastically
>supported, in every manner, the fight of the NMO in Palestine. Two
>newspapers were published in Warsaw (The Deed and Liberated Jerusalem):
>these were organs of the NMO.

>The office in Warsaw maintained close relations with the former Polish
>government and those military circles, who brought greatest sympathy and
>understanding towards the aims of the NMO. Thus, in the year 1939 selected
>groups of NMO members were sent from Palestine to Poland, where their
>military training was completed in barracks by Polish officers.

>The negotiations, for the purpose of activating and concertizing their aid,
>took place between the NMO and the Polish government in Warsaw – the
>evidence of which can easily be found in the archives of the former Polish
>government – were terminated because of the beginning of the war.

>The NMO is closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in its
>ideology and structure.

>The fighting capacity of the NMO could never be paralyzed or seriously
>weakened, neither through strong defensive measures by the English
>administration and the Arabs, nor by those of the Jewish socialists.

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On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:39:32 -0400, “Frank Arthur” wrote:

>Smells like Grosvomit the Jew hating fraudster! Using JimMcCarthy

Actually smells much more like the garbage diseased feces calling itself
Frank Arthur, among his many aliases!!

>”JimMcCarthy” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism “thedarkman”

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Subject: Re: Christian Girls Sold to ZYD Sex Slavery!! Repost
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don’t give a damn about girls of other
>confessions.
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>> wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest…….

>> >>From: Rameses
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700

>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>”Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel’s
>> >>thriving sex industry.

>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery”.

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don’t
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.

>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant

>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with

>> Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: “George”

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On Tue, 30 May 2006 12:19:07 -0000, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
wrote:

>On 2006-05-30, le Corbeau wrote …

>> wow! is Jew boy a pedophile too??? Such a pervert, his parents must be
>> mortified!

Why do you think that Dezi’s dad, a cop, committed suicide?

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On Sun, 28 May 2006 15:38:31 GMT, “Daz” wrote:
>”Unicorn” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> Here is a Video:
>> Scenes from the streets of Moscow
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5023466.stm

>> “Asterix” wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> Aren’t faggots supposed to be burned?
>>> Did someone forget the Molotov Cocktails for the celebrations?

>Can you imagine Asterix as president of the USA? He’d probably extend the
>death penalty to include puffs.
>LOL
>Daz

A hell of a good idea.
I should have thought of it before you did.

>>> Glad to see that even in Russia, sensible people there do not want to
>>> create another Sodom & Gomorrah as is now in Canada, Usa and Britain!!

>>> On Sat, 27 May 2006 19:45:32 +0100, Michael McCann >>> wrote:

>>>>http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13526011,00.html

>>>>The first Gay Rights march held in Moscow has been broken up by
>>>>Russian police, militant Orthodox Christians and neo-fascists.

>>>>A group of about 40 marchers, led by 28-year-old Nikolia Alexeyev,
>>>>planned to lay flowers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. The tomb is
>>>>symbolic of the World War Two struggle against fascism.

On Sun, 28 May 2006 19:31:28 +0300, [email protected] (Eugene Holman)
wrote:

>In article <%Sheg[email protected]>, “«Pas de deux»”
> wrote:
>
>> “Pçteris Cedriòð (Peteris Cedrins)” wrote in message
>>
>> ” even in Daugavpils the red stars on the tombs [of Red Army soldiers
>> who died for Stalin and the Soviet Union]
>> have been replaced by Orthodox crosses (one hopes that none of those
>> buried there were were fervent Marxist-Leninists…).
>>
>> On the contrary. I think it’s cool that some fervent Marxist-Leninists
>> may have ended up with crosses instead of stars on their graves. It’s
>> only a drop in the sea of redress for the tens of thousands of Balts who
>> sleep in crappy cemeteries {or unmarked or star-marked graves} in
>> Siberia. Some of my relatives included. But Holman and a few others
>> will tell me it was all for a good cause …
>
>I most certainly will not.
>
>\EH

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Jew accused of German genocide
Margaret Neighbour
The Scotsman
Fri 24 Oct 2003
POLAND is seeking the extradition from Israel of an elderly Polish-born Jew on
charges of genocide for the deaths of German prisoners in a communist camp he
commanded after the Second World War.

The suspect, Solomon Morel, 83, is accused of causing the deaths of more than
1,500 inmates at the end of the war.

Morel, who was held in Auschwitz and had more than 30 members of his family
wiped out by Nazis and collaborators, was made the commander of the
Swietochlowice camp in November 1945.

He is accused of keeping German prisoners and Nazi collaborators in barbaric
conditions, subjecting them to torture, beatings and starvation.

An attempt to extradite him five years ago on charges of torture failed, after
Israel ruled that the statute of limitations on the charges had run out.

Polish special prosecutors have now upgraded the charges to genocide, for
which there is no statute of limitation.

Andrzej Arseniuk, a spokesman for prosecutors at the Institute of National
Remembrance, which investigates Second World War and communist-era crimes,
said that the new charges are based on testimony from former prisoners at the
defunct camp, near the southern city of Katowice.

“The testimony from former inmates living now in Germany significantly
enriched the evidence. It documented Morel’s torture of at least 13 inmates
known by name,” said Leon Kieres, the head of the institute. “Now the charges
say his intention was to exterminate for national and political reasons.”

Mr Kieres said the extradition request, which will be made by a regional court
in Katowice in a few weeks, will be Poland’s final attempt to bring Morel to
justice.

The new charges accuse Morel of seeking to exterminate German prisoners by
starving them to death,

depriving them of basic medical care and carrying out and sanctioning torture
by his subordinates – including imprisoning prisoners in small cells filled
with water, trampling them or making them stand for long hours, singing Nazi
songs.

Morel was born in 1919 in the Polish village of Garbow. He was 20 when Germany
invaded Poland and the Nazis began to round up Polish Jews. About 30 members
of his family, including his mother and father, both brothers, aunts, uncles
and cousins, died in the Holocaust.

In Christmas 1942, Nazi collaborators arrived at the family home while Morel
and one of his brothers were out. His mother was forced to watch as her
husband and son were shot dead before she was killed.

Morel witnessed the murders with his other brother, Yitzhak, from the top of a
haystack in a field, before they fled and took refuge with a local family.
Within a few months, the two brothers had joined the Polish Jewish partisans.

Morel’s brother was later ambushed and shot by Nazi collaborators while
driving a sleigh for the partisans. Morel was eventually imprisoned in the
Auschwitz death camp. He moved to Israel in 1994, to flee Polish authorities.

Mr Kieres said Morel is believed responsible for at least 1,538 deaths at the
camp.

Speaking after Israel’s rejection of the first extradition request five years
ago, Dorota Boriczek recalled the almost commonplace brutality in the camp.

“I knew Morel in the camp. He was a very brutal man,” she said. “He was young
then. He would come in at night. We could hear the cries of the men then. They
would beat them and throw the bodies out of the window.

“I was taken there when I was 14, with my mother. I still don’t know why we
were there, and I still want to know. They told us when we arrived: ‘You are
here, and you are here to die, although nobody will shoot you, because
ammunition is too expensive’.”

Mrs Boriczek said conditions at the camp were barbaric. “There was nothing to
eat, a hunger that you cannot imagine. We were lucky to have a piece of bread
once a day, nothing else, and water,” she said.

“Both my mother and I had typhus. We were separated and I didn’t know she was
alive. I had a high fever and when I opened my eyes, I was sleeping next to a
lady from Switzerland. I slept with her under one blanket. I was happy that
she was dead, because that meant I could have her blanket.”

The investigation against Morel is the only one in Poland against a Jew
accused of retaliating against the Germans.

Polish historians generally agree that the communist government imprisoned
100,000 Germans, mostly civilians, who were deemed threats to the state. At
least 15,000 died due to ill-treatment and the rest were freed by 1950.

Robert Countess comments:

28 October 2003

Re: the Polish effort to extradite the war criminal and murderer SOLOMON
MOREL from Israel for his crimes against innocent German martyrs

1) The Polish government is to be congratulated for its courage to confront
one of the MOST criminal States of the modern era–ISRAEL, whose protection
for ONLY Jewish criminals fleeing the justice systems of Gentile nation has
been well documented. CONGRATULATION, POLAND!!!

2) Poland thus may serve as an example of justice for crimes of “Genocide”
[signed by most UN member nations], while the USA, my nation, seeks ONLY to
deport Poles and Ukrainians and Germans and Latvians et alia who were merely
camp guards at SS camps in the East and who did not even kill a fly–I must
correct myself: they killed ONLY flies, insofar as the evidence goes. JOHN
DEMANJUK being the best example of a camp guard persecuted for over twenty
years by Jews.

3) It was my friend JOHN SACK who blew the cover on SOLOMON MOREL with his
story, then his book EYE FOR AN EYE, some years ago, only to be smeared by
his fellow Jews–who showed themselves NOT to be “fellows” at all but
despicable scum. John is too high level a homo sapiens to be lowered to
the likes of ABE FOXMAN and EDGAR BRONFMAN and DEBBIE LIPSTADT and ELIE
WIESEL and MARVIN HIER and their ilk.

4) I only hope I live long enough to see the murderer SOLOMON MOREL tried,
convicted, and gassed in “a bunker” just beyond the drainage ditch NW from
the Birkenau ruins near the present day farmers’ fields and houses.

In my SUBJECT line above, I used ALL the key terms that Jews LOVE to trot
out when they are “oi-veying” against Gentile persecution of Jews: war
criminals, murderers, martyrs [but ONLY for Jews!], innocent [only for
Jews!], and the like. TIME HAS COME FOR POLES AND GERMANS TO THROW OFF THE
COVERS AND PULL OUT THE STOPS AND F I N A L L Y CALL JEWISH CRIMINALS AND
THEIR CRIMES WHAT JEWS HAVE GOTTEN RICH OFF CALLING GENTILES FOR DOING OR
HAVING DONE OR ALLEGEDLY HAVING DONE.

It is time for all good and decent people to come to the aid of the Poles
since the George Soros and other criminal Jews of billionaire mega-wealth
status will NOW seek to destroy the Polish economy and coerce Poland to
withdraw its extradition effort. WATCH OUT WARSAWA!!!

Sincerely,

Robert H. Countess, Ph.D.
Ancient Greek
email: [email protected]
28755 Sagewood Circle
Toney, AL 35773 USA
Phone: (256) 232-4940 Cell: (256) 653-7598
Fax: (256) 232-4940

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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos” wrote:

>The Accusations

> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.

> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm

> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.

> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”

> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-

KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer wrote:

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….

>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12

>The Kastner Case
>—————–

>Introduction

>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.

>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.

>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
>Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

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Does this mean, that in Britain as well as in Canada, the TRUTH is no defence?

What ethnic minority is really controlling what one thinks, and what one can
believe, and what one is taught, and what one may read without fear of
prosecution?

Will Ellis be another vcictim like Irving, Zuendel, Rudolf and similar around
the world?

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:37:52 +0000, Paul Hyett wrote:
>In uk.politics.misc on Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Chris X
> wrote :

>>The problem is, as I have previously predicted –
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4838498.stm

>>A lecturer who suggested ethnicity could influence average intelligence
>>levels has been suspended from his job.
>>Dr Frank Ellis was suspended from his post as a lecturer at Leeds University
>>pending disciplinary procedures.

>>The university emphasised that the suspension was not itself a penalty but
>>said it had been deemed appropriate given “the seriousness of the issues”.

>>>> Let’s see how long the University stick to that line, shall we ?

>>Well, well – it didn’t take them long to go from saying that he was “free to
>>hold and express his views despite what the protesters think” to suspending
>>him – doubtless with a view to sacking him or forcing him to resign – due to
>>the “seriousness of the issue”.

>In other words, pressure from ‘various sources’…

>It seems it’s OK to point out differences in physical abilities between
>races, but not intellectual ones.

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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, “princeandy” wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

A lot of good ideas!

Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!

Judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!

>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.

>>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>> AIDS spreaders
>> rapists
>> drug dealers
>> home invaders
>> armed robbers
>> pederasts and similar child molesters
>> crooked liars/lawyers
>> corrupt judges
>> corrupt politicians
>> insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>> members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>> useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>> criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>> any spreader of any disease,including STD – this would
>> obviously include most faggots
>> white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>> dollars (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>> how they would exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)

>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

>> crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>> vivisection
>> medical experiments without anaesthetic
>> target practice for police and military
>> beheading
>> hanging
>> barbecueing by electrocution
>> drawing & quartering

>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>> guillotining, very popular in France
>> flaying alive until dead
>> stoning to death – popular in some jurisdictions

>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.

>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant

>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.

>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.

>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, “Robert Sveinson”
>> wrote:
>>>”Roedy Green” wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone’s surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.

>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.

>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal. They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.

>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>> “Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini.”
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament’s human rights commission
>>>> on Bush’s atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush’s war crimes

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Subject: Remembrance Day for All – NO HOLOHOAX Day Just for ZYDS!! Repost
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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky
wrote:

Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS,
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!

Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?

>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg wrote:
>>From: Nemo
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of All Holocausts Of 20th Century–Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)

>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.

>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin’s Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler’s Nazis.

>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward” and “Cultural Revolution”.

>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.

>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.

>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!

>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!

>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having
>>CHRIST killed!!

>>[email protected] (LisaMcVay) wrote in message
>>news:<[email protected]>…
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?

>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.

>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!

>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!

>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!

>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?

>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.

>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.

>>Canada doesn’t even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930’s.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?

>>Canada doesn’t celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied
>>Australia.

>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS – who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes – do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be exterminated!!

>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!

>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos” wrote:

>The Accusations

> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.

> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm

> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.

> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”

> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-

KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer wrote:

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….

>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12

>The Kastner Case
>—————–

>Introduction

>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.

>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.

>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
>Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

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KATYN=MURDERS OF POLISH BY ZYDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! Like Vinnitsa!! NEVER FORGET!

On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, “Peter Wielki” wrote:

>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukranians that did the crime,
>as far as I know.

>But yeah, let’s blame it on JEWS!!! Germans did it too, right Frankie?

>”Frank Arthur” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!

>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.

>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles

>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)

>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>> the discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1, 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to
>> The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.

>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used
>> the word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned,
>> as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>> single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was
>> to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>> guardians.

>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the
>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.

>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.

>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.

>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder
>> victims.
>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and
>> for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily,
>> and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.

>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew
>> of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>> three – two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to those lies.

>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>> anything.

>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>> the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government
>> in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>> victims of Katyn.

>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians.

>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this must have had on Kremlin thinking?

>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city, the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.

>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach

>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998

>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce

>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.

>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.

>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.

>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.

>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.

>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.

>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.

>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.

>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.

>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.

>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.

>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.

>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.

>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.

ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESE ZYD MURDERERS!!

>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.

>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.

>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?

>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.

>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.

>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.

>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.

>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZYDS isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.

>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.

>> ++++++++++++++

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>> Me

>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
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>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>> “All truth passes through three stages.
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>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
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>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
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>>
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>> Subject: KATYN=MURDERS BY ZYDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!

>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.

>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

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>> for many years around the world.

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Jew accused of German genocide
Margaret Neighbour
The Scotsman
Fri 24 Oct 2003
POLAND is seeking the extradition from Israel of an elderly Polish-born Jew on
charges of genocide for the deaths of German prisoners in a communist camp he
commanded after the Second World War.

The suspect, Solomon Morel, 83, is accused of causing the deaths of more than
1,500 inmates at the end of the war.

Morel, who was held in Auschwitz and had more than 30 members of his family
wiped out by Nazis and collaborators, was made the commander of the
Swietochlowice camp in November 1945.

He is accused of keeping German prisoners and Nazi collaborators in barbaric
conditions, subjecting them to torture, beatings and starvation.

An attempt to extradite him five years ago on charges of torture failed, after
Israel ruled that the statute of limitations on the charges had run out.

Polish special prosecutors have now upgraded the charges to genocide, for
which there is no statute of limitation.

Andrzej Arseniuk, a spokesman for prosecutors at the Institute of National
Remembrance, which investigates Second World War and communist-era crimes,
said that the new charges are based on testimony from former prisoners at the
defunct camp, near the southern city of Katowice.

“The testimony from former inmates living now in Germany significantly
enriched the evidence. It documented Morel’s torture of at least 13 inmates
known by name,” said Leon Kieres, the head of the institute. “Now the charges
say his intention was to exterminate for national and political reasons.”

Mr Kieres said the extradition request, which will be made by a regional court
in Katowice in a few weeks, will be Poland’s final attempt to bring Morel to
justice.

The new charges accuse Morel of seeking to exterminate German prisoners by
starving them to death,

depriving them of basic medical care and carrying out and sanctioning torture
by his subordinates – including imprisoning prisoners in small cells filled
with water, trampling them or making them stand for long hours, singing Nazi
songs.

Morel was born in 1919 in the Polish village of Garbow. He was 20 when Germany
invaded Poland and the Nazis began to round up Polish Jews. About 30 members
of his family, including his mother and father, both brothers, aunts, uncles
and cousins, died in the Holocaust.

In Christmas 1942, Nazi collaborators arrived at the family home while Morel
and one of his brothers were out. His mother was forced to watch as her
husband and son were shot dead before she was killed.

Morel witnessed the murders with his other brother, Yitzhak, from the top of a
haystack in a field, before they fled and took refuge with a local family.
Within a few months, the two brothers had joined the Polish Jewish partisans.

Morel’s brother was later ambushed and shot by Nazi collaborators while
driving a sleigh for the partisans. Morel was eventually imprisoned in the
Auschwitz death camp. He moved to Israel in 1994, to flee Polish authorities.

Mr Kieres said Morel is believed responsible for at least 1,538 deaths at the
camp.

Speaking after Israel’s rejection of the first extradition request five years
ago, Dorota Boriczek recalled the almost commonplace brutality in the camp.

“I knew Morel in the camp. He was a very brutal man,” she said. “He was young
then. He would come in at night. We could hear the cries of the men then. They
would beat them and throw the bodies out of the window.

“I was taken there when I was 14, with my mother. I still don’t know why we
were there, and I still want to know. They told us when we arrived: ‘You are
here, and you are here to die, although nobody will shoot you, because
ammunition is too expensive’.”

Mrs Boriczek said conditions at the camp were barbaric. “There was nothing to
eat, a hunger that you cannot imagine. We were lucky to have a piece of bread
once a day, nothing else, and water,” she said.

“Both my mother and I had typhus. We were separated and I didn’t know she was
alive. I had a high fever and when I opened my eyes, I was sleeping next to a
lady from Switzerland. I slept with her under one blanket. I was happy that
she was dead, because that meant I could have her blanket.”

The investigation against Morel is the only one in Poland against a Jew
accused of retaliating against the Germans.

Polish historians generally agree that the communist government imprisoned
100,000 Germans, mostly civilians, who were deemed threats to the state. At
least 15,000 died due to ill-treatment and the rest were freed by 1950.

Robert Countess comments:

28 October 2003

Re: the Polish effort to extradite the war criminal and murderer SOLOMON
MOREL from Israel for his crimes against innocent German martyrs

1) The Polish government is to be congratulated for its courage to confront
one of the MOST criminal States of the modern era–ISRAEL, whose protection
for ONLY Jewish criminals fleeing the justice systems of Gentile nation has
been well documented. CONGRATULATION, POLAND!!!

2) Poland thus may serve as an example of justice for crimes of “Genocide”
[signed by most UN member nations], while the USA, my nation, seeks ONLY to
deport Poles and Ukrainians and Germans and Latvians et alia who were merely
camp guards at SS camps in the East and who did not even kill a fly–I must
correct myself: they killed ONLY flies, insofar as the evidence goes. JOHN
DEMANJUK being the best example of a camp guard persecuted for over twenty
years by Jews.

3) It was my friend JOHN SACK who blew the cover on SOLOMON MOREL with his
story, then his book EYE FOR AN EYE, some years ago, only to be smeared by
his fellow Jews–who showed themselves NOT to be “fellows” at all but
despicable scum. John is too high level a homo sapiens to be lowered to
the likes of ABE FOXMAN and EDGAR BRONFMAN and DEBBIE LIPSTADT and ELIE
WIESEL and MARVIN HIER and their ilk.

4) I only hope I live long enough to see the murderer SOLOMON MOREL tried,
convicted, and gassed in “a bunker” just beyond the drainage ditch NW from
the Birkenau ruins near the present day farmers’ fields and houses.

In my SUBJECT line above, I used ALL the key terms that Jews LOVE to trot
out when they are “oi-veying” against Gentile persecution of Jews: war
criminals, murderers, martyrs [but ONLY for Jews!], innocent [only for
Jews!], and the like. TIME HAS COME FOR POLES AND GERMANS TO THROW OFF THE
COVERS AND PULL OUT THE STOPS AND F I N A L L Y CALL JEWISH CRIMINALS AND
THEIR CRIMES WHAT JEWS HAVE GOTTEN RICH OFF CALLING GENTILES FOR DOING OR
HAVING DONE OR ALLEGEDLY HAVING DONE.

It is time for all good and decent people to come to the aid of the Poles
since the George Soros and other criminal Jews of billionaire mega-wealth
status will NOW seek to destroy the Polish economy and coerce Poland to
withdraw its extradition effort. WATCH OUT WARSAWA!!!

Sincerely,

Robert H. Countess, Ph.D.
Ancient Greek
email: [email protected]
28755 Sagewood Circle
Toney, AL 35773 USA
Phone: (256) 232-4940 Cell: (256) 653-7598
Fax: (256) 232-4940

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On 15 Aug 2006 06:29:08 -0700, in alt.revisionism “GB”
wrote:

How Many Survivors Are There?
Studies counted on to allocate funds for the distressed are far apart
on the number.
Stewart Ain – Staff Writer

Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned.

Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors
worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found
688,000.

The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the
Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor
differences from his previous effort.

Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys.

Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to
distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy
survivors worldwide. The funds were obtained as part of a settlement
for unpaid Holocaust-era insurance claims against German and other
European companies.

Brooklyn Federal Judge Edward Korman, who is presiding over the $1.25
billion Swiss bank settlement, has been using the original Ukeles
survey to allocate money to needy Jewish survivors.

Both surveys found the highest percentage of Jewish survivors are
living in Israel. In his updated version, Ukeles reported the figure at
265,000, or 38.5 percent. Della Pergola put the number at 511,000, or
46.8 percent.

The numbers breakdown of where survivors are living:

The United States: Ukeles, 110,000 survivors, or 16 percent; Della
Pergola, 174,000, or 15.9 percent.

Europe: Ukeles, 126,000, or 18.3 percent; Della Pergola, 229,000, or 21
percent.

The former Soviet Union: Ukeles, 150,000, or 21.8 percent; Della
Pergola, 146,000, or 13.4 percent.

Other parts of the world: Ukeles, 38,000, or 5.5 percent; Della
Pergola, 32,000, or 2.9 percent.

The difference in the studies stems from the fact that Della Pergola
included as survivors Jews who lived in Arab countries – Morocco,
Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and Algeria – that passed anti-Jewish
laws. Ukeles did not.

Asked his reaction to the disparities, Ukeles said that since their
purpose is to determine allocations based on need, a new needs
assessment study might be in order.

In such a study in 2000 for the Claims Conference, Ukeles found 119,000
survivors in the former Soviet Union in need – almost double that of
any other area.

Gideon Taylor, executive vice president of the Claims Conference, said
his organization’s allocations committee would be meeting Monday to
vote on staff recommendations for the allocation of more than $50
million.

Taylor said the staff considered both the Della Pergola and Ukeles
studies, as well as recent needs studies performed in the United
States, Israel and the former Soviet Union. He said those studies would
soon be posted on his organization’s Web site.

Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the World Jewish Congress,
said despite the different number of survivors in the studies, the
percentage of Jews does not differ markedly except in Israel and the
former Soviet Union.

He said Della Pergola’s figures represent a “dramatic shift” in
populations that “call into question the basis on which distributions
have been made.”

Taylor stressed that both the Claims Conference and the World Jewish
Restitution Organization “can only act in an empirical manner” and
thus must base their allocations “on the most recent statistics and
on the basis of where the greatest needs are.”

The allocations committee of the Claims Conference will be submitting
its recommendations to its full membership in coming weeks. Steinberg
said the WJC, a member of the Claims Conference, would take into
consideration Della Pergola’s statistics when voting on the
committee’s recommendations.

Israel Singer, president of the Claims Conference, said that instead of
each organization determining on its own how best to allocate
settlement monies to needy survivors, there should be a “global,
coordinated strategy” in determining allocations. He said it should
apply to the insurance and Swiss bank settlements, as well as the
allocations from the Claims Conference.

Samuel Dubbin, an attorney for the Holocaust Survivors Foundation,
welcomed such a move. He said he is convinced that if there was a
global allocation, “there would be enough funds available to meet the
needs of survivors all over the world.”

Singer said he would be meeting shortly after Thanksgiving with Korman
to review the latest demographic statistics and to discuss the global
allocation idea.

“I’d love the judge to look at it and if he has to make allocations
earlier, it does not mean we can’t reassess our allocations based on
what he does,” Singer said.

Singer stressed that all of the settlements combined, along with money
the Claims Conference obtains from various sources, contains hundreds
of millions of dollars that together might meet the needs of survivors
for the next five years.

Any distribution plans that call for allocations beyond that time frame
should be shortened, he said.

“Survivors are dying at the rate of 15 percent a year,” Singer
said. “We should telescope the amount of time allocations are
made.”

In addition, Singer said the money must go directly to help survivors.
If the survivors have moved, they should still receive the money if
they are in need.

“The money should not be an entitlement for places but for
individuals,” he said.

At a meeting this week in Jerusalem, the executive committee of the
Claims Conference decided to press the German government to provide
funds for homecare for Holocaust survivors in need worldwide.

Dubbin pointed out that the Association of Jewish Family and
Children’s Services Agencies in 2002 estimated that a minimum of $30
million is needed annually to care for needy survivors in the United
States.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774

All this quvatch about the ZYDs, but no concern for the many MORE MILLIONS
of Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, German people killed!!

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Notice that this is an honest ZYD professor from Israel, who, after much
research, is making public his findings, not some anti-semite.

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:51:00 -0700, Frank Arthur wrote:
>From: “Zionism is a cancer growing on Uncle Sam’s ass. -”
>
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>Subject: Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
>Date: 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800

>Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
>By Khalid Amayreh
>Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

>A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
>canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
>making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
>unfounded.

>Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
>in a new book, published recently in Italy, that “there is a factual
>basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.”

>”I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
>among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
>don’t claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
>Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
>act and justified it.”

>In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz Monday, 12
>February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
>records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
>Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

>The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
>March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
>and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
>Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
>them.

>The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
>seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
>Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
>sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

>”I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
>not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
>have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
>prayers known from the Jewish prayer book,” Toaff was quoted as
>saying.

>He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn’t use
>human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

>”Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
>Passover.

>”Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
>Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
>powers of children’s blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
>Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood.”

>Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
>religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
>even human blood.

>Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
>Jewish leaders and commentators for “vindicating anti-Semitism” and
>giving anti-Semites a “cause celebre.”

>Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
>to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

>Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
>Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
>inter alia, “self-hating Jew” and “collaborator with anti-Semites.”

>However, Toaff said he wouldn’t be silenced no matter how vociferous
>are the criticisms of his book.

>”I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
>if the world crucifies me.”

>http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml

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On 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800, in soc.culture.palestine “Zionism is a cancer
growing on Uncle Sam’s ass. -” wrote:

Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
By Khalid Amayreh
Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

Reports

A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
unfounded.

Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
in a new book, published recently in Italy, that “there is a factual
basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.”

“I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
don’t claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
act and justified it.”

In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz Monday, 12
February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
them.

The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

“I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
prayers known from the Jewish prayer book,” Toaff was quoted as
saying.

He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn’t use
human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

“Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
Passover.

“Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
powers of children’s blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood.”

Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
even human blood.

Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
Jewish leaders and commentators for “vindicating anti-Semitism” and
giving anti-Semites a “cause celebre.”

Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
inter alia, “self-hating Jew” and “collaborator with anti-Semites.”

However, Toaff said he wouldn’t be silenced no matter how vociferous
are the criticisms of his book.

“I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
if the world crucifies me.”

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml

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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:21:11 -0400, in soc.culture.usa “serwad”
wrote:

Israeli diplomat arrested on suspicion of pedophilia
An Israeli diplomat, Yosef Sagiv, was arrested Friday in the American city of
Atlanta on suspicion of computer related offences linked to pornography and
the sexual exploitation of children.

This sort of thing seems to happen a lot with Israeli diplomats.
Sex Scandal Past Haunts New Envoy
The Strange Case of the Disappearing Diplomat
Israel Has Second Thoughts on Consul
Israeli Consul in Nude Picture Storm
Australia Consul Appointment Reviewed
Diplomat Said to Unnerve Women
Jewish Diplomat Involved in Child Prostitution Scandal
Brazil Links Israeli Consul to Child Prostitution
Wanted Israeli Diplomat Flees Brazil
The Principal Villains of Brasilian Pedofilia Crimes
Brazilian Police Stake Out Diplomat Accused of Running Kiddie-Porn Ring

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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:38:05 GMT, in can.politics “Kaholicious”
wrote:

That’s probably true — that Cipal Golan quickly skuttled off to Israel after
that Gov. McGreevey scandal broke in the U.S. a couple years back

“AlX” wrote in message
news:[email protected]
>
> The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist – tho many
> Jews are not willing to live there – is as a refuge for Jewish
> fugitives
> from around the world. If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
> Israel, he is home free. Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
> other country to face criminal charges – not even to the U.S.
> without whose support Israel would not even exist.

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel

> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721

> Jacob “Kobi” Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
> one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
> fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
> $57 million of ill-gotten gains.

> As todays New York Times reports:

> New York – Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
> options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
> Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.

> In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
> had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
> to be distributed to favored employees.

> The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
> into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
> not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
> according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
> issued for his arrest.

> Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
> a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
> extensive business operations.

> In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
> to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
> believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
> prosecutors have asked to be frozen.

> http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php

> (End of quote)

> Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
> of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
> Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
> forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

> This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
> attacks on 9/11.

> Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad’s
> involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:

> At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
> imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
> plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
> WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
> authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
> of lives.

> Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
> and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
> nationality.

> Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo’s vice president,
> reportedly said, “It was possible that the attack warning was
> broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
> reports of other recipients of the message.”

> The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
> months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
> matter. There have been no media reports since.

> Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
> Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
> town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad’s
> headquarters are located.

> Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
> another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
> were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider
> trading.”

> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985

> Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
> had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
> transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
> from justice. Why didn’t the police arrest him before he was able to
> get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
> connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.

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On 12 Aug 2006 11:22:59 -0700, in can.politics “AlX”
wrote:

The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist – tho many
Jews are not willing to live there – is as a refuge for Jewish
fugitives from around the world. If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
Israel, he is home free. Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
other country to face criminal charges – not even to the U.S.
without whose support Israel would not even exist.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721

Jacob “Kobi” Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
$57 million of ill-gotten gains.

As todays New York Times reports:

New York – Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.

In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
to be distributed to favored employees.

The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
issued for his arrest.

Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
extensive business operations.

In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
prosecutors have asked to be frozen.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php

(End of quote)

Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
attacks on 9/11.

Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad’s
involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:

At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
of lives.

Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
nationality.

Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo’s vice president,
reportedly said, “It was possible that the attack warning was
broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
reports of other recipients of the message.”

The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
matter. There have been no media reports since.

Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad’s
headquarters are located.

Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider
trading.”

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985

Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
>from justice. Why didn’t the police arrest him before he was able to
get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.

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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism “thedarkman”
wrote:

I wouldn’t pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don’t
these people make you wanna laugh?

http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm

Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper “The Guardian,” Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,”Pasque di Sangue” (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper “Corriere Della
Sera,” which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff’s book reportedly “describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ’s execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for ‘magic and
therapeutic practices,'” noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff’s
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of “Rachel” on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah’s interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that “participated in human sacrifice,” undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: …You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who’s been involved and who hasn’t been involved, and it’s
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it’s a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There’s other Jewish families across the country. It’s
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I’ve spoke publicly before, and…

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it’s like if you grow
up with something, you think it’s normal. I always thought
something…

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don’t have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know…

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin’s ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.

Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book “Blood Ritual” by Philip DeVier and the
DVD “Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed,” the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.

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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism “thedarkman”
wrote:

I wouldn’t pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don’t
these people make you wanna laugh?

http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm

Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper “The Guardian,” Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,”Pasque di Sangue” (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper “Corriere Della
Sera,” which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff’s book reportedly “describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ’s execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for ‘magic and
therapeutic practices,'” noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff’s
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of “Rachel” on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah’s interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that “participated in human sacrifice,” undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: …You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who’s been involved and who hasn’t been involved, and it’s
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it’s a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There’s other Jewish families across the country. It’s
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I’ve spoke publicly before, and…

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it’s like if you grow
up with something, you think it’s normal. I always thought
something…

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don’t have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know…

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin’s ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.

Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book “Blood Ritual” by Philip DeVier and the
DVD “Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed,” the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.

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Subject: Re: Dresden, a Real Holocaust – Repost
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, “Godzilla Pimp” wrote:

>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1

>”German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a “holocaust”.”

>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it,
>among other cities like Hamburg.

>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course,
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb
>”goyim” (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes,
>Christianity being the most notable one.

>GP

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Subject: ZYD Ritual Murders in Russia – Repost
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white “Whip”
wrote:

“JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS” IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, “disappeared” in the
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk. their burnt bodies have been found in
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

“I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination”, he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor
overweight among the jury.

“The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without
burial”, Mr Nazarov said.

“And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who … copies American gangstes
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs,
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin”, Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

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Subject: Re: ZYD KOLABORACI WITH NAZIS= KASTNER, RUMKOWSLI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More Cases Documented!! Repost
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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.

>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case, one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!

>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi wrote:

>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.

>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews >>wrote:

>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG–
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.”
>>>I’ve seen photos of naked children, … and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society).”?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>> Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>> alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: [email protected] (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland. The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem. However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education. These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book. In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next “relocation”!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA. Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > ————-
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia – [email protected]
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.

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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.

>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.

>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.

>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.

>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini’s
Italy.
>>>Brenner’s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha’avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
‘nationality’
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No! And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.

>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,’assimilation’ of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ‘It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own’
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives ‘both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli’ in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.

# 5 The Kastner Case
ZHID KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS – 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some “controversy” about negotiations he undertook
for “the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment,” but that he was “fully rehabilitated” by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, “I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.”

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price…was not too high for me.

“…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

“Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

“As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal…
‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment.”

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
———————————————————————–
Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
[email protected]

Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.

Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
‘controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
ehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
—————-
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

“Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

‘I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations…I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’.

And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying ‘In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
————
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

“The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.

It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another.”

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

“From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

“Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.” (ibid)

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
————-
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

“All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

“Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
“The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense.” (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
“If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
*Ma’ariv*:
“What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p.
268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Majority Judgement
————————-
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.

Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

“…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which
one can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

n other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The Minority Judgement
————————–
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

“I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc – and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
– nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)

Conclusion
———–
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
‘dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships’.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
‘now dead’.

Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).

Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.

The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.

Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

We shall go on to prove this in detail.
——————————————————————
Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
mail: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, [email protected]
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

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seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: “George” ,
and [email protected].

Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

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Desmond Cohen, alias Coughlan, now alias Izzie/Yitzhak Goldstein,
the NAZI claiming to be a filthy Christkiller rabbi, is well-known as
being an unmitigated LIAR!!

Grosvenor has never in his life been near Newcastle-onTyne, and
most definitely has NO CONVICTIONS FOR ASSAULT
& EMBEZZLEMENT THERE!!

But what can one expect from such a piece of Nazi filth as Dezi?

He should be put into an oven, and incinerated with the rest of the garbage!!

Guess Dezi dislikes Noles for exposing his charade, what?

On 30 Sep 2005 05:35:51 -0700, “Nazi_Noles-Crusher”
wrote:
>> Repost

>Of Nazi Noles’s post .. in its entirety.
>Birds of a feather flock together.
>Y.

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:37:35 -0500, “he_who_exposes_liars”

>Dec 18, 2004
>What kind of a person would claim to be Jewish, just so he can
>attack Jewish interests? That would be the poster who signs
>himself as a Jew, and has now been proven to not be Jewish.
>Desmond is NOT Jewish. In one of the most sweeping and
>diabolical frauds ever attempted in AADP, Desmond hopes to
>heap lie upon lie. He only changed his handle to insult the
>idea that there are actually a Jewish people. Actually, now
>laughing in the face of the Jews. To insult the birthright that
>belongs to those Jews who wish to claim it, if such a birthright
>exists, which Desmond argues does not exist. His new handle
>was created only with his smug contempt for the Jews. It is
>only his effort to add “insult to injury” to the Jews.
>As usual, when Desmond gets caught in a lie, he believes that
>in typical Nixon fashion, he can _tough it out_, by offering a
>bigger and bigger lie, in his use of the _I am not a crook_, defense.

>With Desmond frequently employing the same technique, insisting
>that “I do not lie;” said just shortly after being caught in a lie.
>Yes… there are SEVEN facts now… all that prove together that
>Desmond is not Jewish….In his own words, in the manner,
>methods and purpose of his posts, and from someone who
>personally knows him. Seven distinct and separate facts in
>evidence that prove he is not Jewish.

>1) He does not believe in a God… thus he cannot claim to be Jewish
>through that religion.
>His own words have often denied his belief in any God… and he
>is thus an atheist, and by definition a Gentile. Not of the Jewish
>faith. Some of his comments verifying that —
>Desmond’s words to St. George… “I’m not, St.George. In fact, I don’t
>even believe in God.”
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/d4…

>And another of his denials that he believes in God —
>”If I believed in God, I would get down on my knees every day and
>thank Him for not having me born in the United States.”
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/36…

>And yet another, rather insulting characterization of God as
>seen through the eyes of the believers in the Judaic religion —
>”Whilst not necesarily subscribing to the Judeo-Christian
>myths of heaven and hell, and a benevolent God wearing a
>beard and with a Polo mint floating above His head.” See —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/61…

>And yet again.. disputing the ideas contained in the Judaic
>religion — “man’s pretentiousness in believing that ‘God’
>created him in His image.” See —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/db…

>And yet again — his words — “I dissociate myself from the ‘classic’
>Judeo-Christian… idea of ‘spirituality’, and consider the soul, as
>distinct from any organised religion. ” See —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/60…

>And a great many further comments in which he has insisted
>that he does not believe in “A God,” and certainly not the God
>believed in by those of the Jewish religious faith

>2) He has insisted that no one is a “born Jew,” thus he cannot
>claim he is Jewish through any ethnic descent that he does not
>even believe in.

>In fact, Desmond was born in Clydebank, Scotland, and his family
>is pure Scottish (Celtic… as corrected by Mr. Rennie), and
>has been so for as many generation as are known. His primary
>education from the ages of 12 until 18 was in “Our Lady’s High
>School,” in Cumbernauld, Scotland. A Roman Catholic
>school. See —
>http://www.northlan.gov.uk/education+and+learning/schools/secondary/o…

>And both his given name and his family name leave no doubt that
>he has no Jewish ancestry to speak of. See —
>http://website.lineone.net/~tam.c/spare/coughlan.htm

>And he has denied that there is even a possibility of anyone being
>a “born Jew” with his words — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
>spagmerchant.”
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7e…

>And in another post of his, insisting that it is a lie to
>believe that one can be “born Jewish” — his words —
>”As FuckWit seems to be a ‘born liar’, perhaps that’s
>why he believes that one can be ‘born Jewish’.” See —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ef…

>And he agreed with another poster in the claim that “It is abusive –
>and even linguistically abusive – to state that we were “born Jew”. See –
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/f8…

>He certainly cannot claim to be Jewish “through birth,” if he does not
>even believe that anyone can be Jewish “through birth.”

>3) John Rennie knows Desmond personally, and has stated Desmond
>is not Jewish. Desmond became rather enraged at this disclosure and
>insisted that John was _honor bound_ not to reveal Desmond’s lie.

>John has offered six separate posts, each of them insisting that he
>knows Desmond personally, and that Desmond confirmed to him that
>he was not Jewish, and in fact felt it was a big joke he was playing on
>AADP, and found it a source of both amusement and laughter that
>the group members could be so gullible. See —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88…

>and —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7d…

>and —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6d…

>and —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/a0…

>and —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/95…

>and —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92…

>and —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/bb…

>and —
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/18…

>And Desmond even insisted that John was _honor bound_ not to reveal
>that Desmond had been lying all these years, as if Desmond demanded
>that John join in with a belief in an _honor code of liars_. And then
>Desmond had the nerve to accuse John Rennie of having “blackmailed”
>him. Desmond will try to smear ANYONE who might threaten his lie.
>Rather obvious from the ugly names he has called anyone who does
>threaten his lie.

>4) The cold, brutal and savage methods Desmond uses here.

>Including all of those obscene ravings, claiming that a Jewish
>stepfather was a pedophile, demanding that other human beings
>kill themselves, conclusively prove otherwise. Desmond is
>without a heart, and the Jewish people are recognized as
>compassionate, gentle and humane in their ethnic descent.
>One could even say that this has been passed down as a
>meme, because of their own persecution over probably 5000
>years. While Desmond is devoid of all compassion. And
>there is an indescribable anger and rage in him, that the
>Jews do not demonstrate. Inside of him lies a strong distaste
>for the Jews, often expressed here.

>It is disgusting for him to continue to offer that phony claim that he
>is Jewish so he can attack the Jews. He is attempting to perpetrate
>the greatest hoax ever attempted in AADP, in order for him to
>attack Jewish interests throughout the world. Witness his
>frequent explosive outbursts… lashing out in brutality, rage and
>hate, repeated so often in so many posts. A typical comment
>he often offers to those he perceives as his _enemies_ —

>”‘spnak’ (sic) … ‘spnak’ (sic) …’spnak’ (sic) … whump-squeal! …
>slap… punch … kick … ‘spnak’ (sic) … ‘spnak’ (sic) …hammer!
>…thrash … thump! … whump-squeal … ‘spnak’ (sic)
>…pummel-pummel-pummel … bash! … beat! … ‘spnak’ (sic) …
>’spnak'(sic) …’spnak’ (sic) … >”

>Does that sound like someone who is Jewish? Someone who
>is gentle, and humane and not accustomed to using brutal
>methods? Not hardly… it looks more like something from
>Attila the Hun.

>5) His many comments which disparage, _make fun_ of
>the Holocaust, or insist that the Jews murdered in the
>holocaust cannot be seen as different from any murderer
>executed in the U.S. DP.

>Reducing those innocent victims to no better than proven
>murderers, or objects to ridicule. Insisting that those
>innocent victims of the holocaust were legally killed.
>Which obviously insists that the Nazis are legally
>innocent of killing a single Jew. He is quite insistent
>that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing even a single
>Jew.

>The number of times he has compared the Jews slaughtered
>in the Holocaust to being nothing better than any murderer
>executed in the DP in the U.S. is staggering. There must
>be a few score posts in which he has compared the holocaust
>to being no worse than the U.S. DP, and thus those innocent
>Jews murdered in the Holocaust, are seen by him as no
>different or better than those legally tried and convicted
>murderers executed in the U.S. DP. Even given the vast
>number of his posts that now no longer exist in google.
>For example, his comments such as —

>a) His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews
>was legal,”

>b) His words — “German society said that the extermination
>of the Jews was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …,”

>c) His words — “I state that the Holocaust is ‘akin’ to the death
>penalty”

>Six million innocent Jews killed, mechanically and methodically,
>in a degrading assembly line manner in a few short years…
>less that a thousand convicted murderers killed, given
>trials that demand unanimity from a jury of peers, and a
>decade of due process… no difference to Desmond.
>Six million innocent Jews <=> less than a thousand murderer,
>to him.

>d) His words — “the issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in
>declaring Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.”

>Desmond finding that it is LEGAL… to declare the Jews
>as “inhuman.”

>e) His words — “it _was_ legal to kill Jews in WWII,”

>f) His words — “the death penalty in the United States is no
>more, or no less ‘moral’ or ‘just’ than the Final Solution.
>Many consider it to be so, but that is nothing more than
>a subjective value judgement. In the absolute, the Nazi
>Holocaust and the death penalty are perfect equivalents,
>both morally and legally.”

>See how he equates the six million innocent Jews as
>”perfect equivalents” to less than a thousand proven
>murderers? Of course there is a difference despite
>Desmond’s refusal to see it. Does anyone here… see
>what that difference is, between the Jews killed by the
>Nazis, and those murderers killed by the U.S.?
>Desmond doesn’t see it. He sees those Jews as no
>different from those proven murderers in the _absolute_.
>In fact he sees six million innocent Jews as no different
>in _the absolute_ than the less than a thousand
>proven murderers executed in the U.S. in more than
>25 years. _Absolutely the same_, to him. And he
>claims to be Jewish!!! Get out of here. He’s a liar.

>g) His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust
>was mass murder, in which case, so is the death penalty,
>or the death penalty is ‘just’, in which case, so was the
>extermination of the Jews.” Attempting to imply that
>the holocaust was no worse than the U.S. DP,
>again reducing the six million Jews killed by the
>Nazis, without the slightest effort to provide a trial,
>or due process, or even define a _crime_, to nothing
>better than the less than a thousand executed
>murderers, given an open trial by their peers, and
>a decade of due process. He argues there is no
>difference, which is only attempting to make the
>Jews to be no better than convicted murderers,
>as a ratio of more than 6,000 Jews to each murderer
>executed.

>h) Desmond once posed an argument that he
>stated retentionists often make to _justify the
>DP_. Offering that retentionists try to separate the
>idea of the Jews having been innocent, and murderers
>having murdered when retentionists make the
>statement — “The Jews hadn’t done anything;
>murderers have.” Desmond REFUTED that claim
>with a single word answer — “Irrelevant”!!! Imagine,
>he finds any mention of the difference between the
>innocence of the Jews, and the act of a murderer
>IS IRRELEVANT!!! Again, Desmond makes sure
>to insist that there is NO DIFFERENCE between
>an innocent Jew murdered in the Holocaust, and
>a murderer executed in the U.S. DP. They are
>exactly the same to him.

>i) His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to
>refer to the legal execution of 6,000,000 Jews in the
>Second World War.” While providing a definition
>that does not even use the word “legal.”

>j) His words — “Which still leaves that nagging
>question about those six million Jews ‘lawfully
>executed’ during WWII …”

>k) His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution
>for those found guilty of being Jewish’.”

>Making a jest about the Holocaust (since this could
>not possibly be as grotesque as stated…. even for
>Desmond, regardless how much he despises the
>Jews) — Why would anyone who is Jewish, make
>such a comment, even in sarcasm? What does that
>say to the victims? Apparently the Holocaust is really
>just a big joke to him.

>l) His words — “Aside from the Nazi Holocaust, ‘a just
>execution for those found guilty of being Jewish’,
>European countries gave up their habit of ‘invading
>formerly sovereign nations’ centuries ago.”

>ANOTHER ugly and evil comment from him, even if he
>is attempting to joke about the Holocaust — Trying at
>the same moment to make a jest about the Holocaust,
>while being perfectly serious in defending European
>countries, in an obvious lie, given the great number
>of invasions of one sovereign European country by
>another in the past few centuries.

>m) His words — “The Final Solution was not illegal
>under German law, Richard, and the ‘laws’ which were
>used to secure the Nürnberg hangings, were not written
>until (if my memory serves me correctly) 1949 or
>1952 (one or the other).”

>In his bold attempt to offer an excuse for the legal innocence
>of the Nazis. Obviously, behind his words is the clear
>claim that any accusations of the Nazis having committed
>any illegal killings of the Jews in WW II, were efforts to
>apply ex post facto “law,” meaning that he believed that
>such a “law” did not exist, and the Nazis were _home
>free and innocent_. Notice that he placed the words
>”law” in quotes in respect to any law that would have
>served to find a legal crime was committed by the Nazis,
>but had no reservations at all about asserting that the killing
>of the Jews by the Nazis was relevant and applicable
>_law_, not needing to be quoted, but his feelings.

>6) Desmond’s various anti-Jewish comments, and insults
>to the Jews, which could not possibly be offered by any Jew.

>a) John Rennie asked Desmond if he didn’t feel that it
>was an insult to those victims to argue that their deaths
>were legal. And Desmond… without missing a beat…
>felt it was not an insult to those victims, as long as he
>did not argue that their deaths were _moral_. As if any fool
>would argue that the holocaust was _moral_. He USES
>that claim to defend the legal innocence of the Nazis.

>Desmond claimed that this is no insult to the Jews who
>were killed to state that they were killed legally. However;
>when a past post of his is examined we see that he
>finds that Roger Coleman, a convicted murderer, had
>what Desmond insisted was “insult added to injury,” to
>COLEMAN, in the U.S. lawfully executing Coleman.
>It seems that Desmond has two different sets of values
>for those he considers insulted in being killed by the state.
>One for the Nazis who he hopes to hide under the
>umbrella of legal innocence, and claim it is no insult to
>the Jews to insist that they were legally killed. And
>another for the U.S. in its execution of a proven
>murderer. A convicted murderer that Desmond finds
>had “insult added to injury” when he was killed as a
>convicted murderer. Desmond finds it was not “insult
>added to injury” to six million Jews for him to insist
>that they were killed legally. But believes that Roger
>Coleman, a proven murderer had “insult added to injury”
>when the state executed him under that same claim
>of killed legally.

>b) His ugly comparison of the 2.5 million innocent Jewish
>victims slaughtered in Auschwitz, to around 300 proven
>murderers executed in Texas. Arguing that one is the
>same as the other, and thus those 2.5 million innocent
>Jewish victims are no better to him than around 300
>proven murderers.

>c) His comment that the Jews commit “butchery.” hiding
>behind the _excuse_ that they are _only Israelis_, while
>80% of all Israelis are Jewish. Apparently feeling that
>accusing only 80% if the Jews of Israel of committing
>”butchery” in not enough to actually constitute anti-Semitism.

>d) His insisting that the U.S. is _run by the Jews_, and it
>would be better if the U.S. abandoned its “unwavering
>support” for the Jews… and let Israel presumably sink.
>It is my belief that his anti-Americanism can be traced
>as much to his anti-Jewish feelings as his anti-U.S.
>feelings. There is much to examine about his feelings
>in his claim that Americans are “lower down the evolutionary
>scale” than those he sees as _human beings_. Which has
>a strong resemblance to how the Nazis saw the Jews.
>Given that the U.S. has a Jewish population larger than
>that of Israel.

>e) His attack on the Jewish press — calling it biased, while
>ignoring the fact that the Arab press often calls for the
>murder of the Jews, and praises Hitler.

>f) His defending an anti-Semitic remark made by the French
>Ambassador to England.

>g) His bizarre claim that in the past 2000 years, during which
>European persecution of the Jews ran rampant, that Europe
>”in matters of morals has led the world…” While forgetting
>that in that same period, Europe experienced the holocaust,
>in addition to unbelievable persecution of the Jews. And he
>even invoked the name of “Christ,” when speaking of those
>2000 years, leaving the ugly taste that he finds that persecution
>acceptable because of “Christ.”

>h) His despicable attack on the Jews, by accusing them of
>being responsible for 9/11. He has always emphatically
>denied that bin Laden had a hand in 9/11.

>i) His statement that the Jewish state of Israel is “the most
>anti-Semitic country on the planet.” Once again, ignoring
>totally the anti-Semitic Arab world, in the definition of that
>word. An anti-Semitic Arab world that calls from a religious
>pulpit for the killing of ALL Jews. An anti-Semitic Arab world
>that teaches children to murder Jews in the _name of Allah_.
>And an anti-Semitic Arab world that provides the DP for any
>Arab to sell any land to any Jew. And in fact, there is no
>evidence that he has ever offered any comment which condemns
>Islam for the sickness within that religion, that kills Jews in
>the name of “Allah.” He is critical of the DP everywhere, but
>I have never seen his criticize the DP placed into law by the
>Arabs to other Arabs who sell land to any Jew. He is defensive
>of Islam, and critical of the Jews in all cases. He supports
>the demise of the Jewish state of Israel by any means, and
>his comments leave the implication that he finds Zionism is
>itself racist.

>j) He has insisted that one of the active perpetrators of the holocaust
>(Maurice Papon) should be excused from punishment, because
>of _his age_.

>k) He has argued in various posts that it’s been 60 years now,
>so the holocaust no longer looms as something that should
>deeply concern us, other than its _historical significance_.
>Rather seeing it as like the _black plague_, as an act of God,
>rather than man’s inhumanity to his fellow man.

>l) He has insulted various known Jews here, and chased them
>away, with his insulting manner. One particular case being his
>threatening a Jew … Andy Katz. In his words — “Don’t get in
>my way, or you will regret it.” And Andy Katz took that very
>seriously as a threat, with part of it being because Andy is
>Jewish. Regular posters here know of another quite real
>threat Desmond made, that caused another regular poster to
>leave for some time, no longer able to handle Desmond’s hate.

>m) Desmond’s attempts to dismiss discrimination against the Jews —
>in his words — “One could perhaps leave the Jews out of the
>equation concerning discrimination, but the fact is that the poor,
>blacks, Asians, and so on, are subjected to discrimination on
>a daily basis in the United States.” I don’t think that the Jews
>can be left out of ANY EQUATION concerning discrimination,
>even in the context of the U.S.

>n) Insulting the Jews, even as he claims he is Jewish, when
>someone asked him — “Desmond, aren’t you part-jewish btw? :)”
>And he replied — “100 % … ever since they took away my
>pullover … ;-)” It seems even there he believes he can don
>and shed his Jewishness as he wishes.

>o) And then finding that the Jews are dishonest, even as he
>claims to be Jewish, in his words — “Damn, can’t help that
>dishonesty … must be the Jewish in me.”

>p) Of course in the midst of his lies in claiming he is Jewish, he
>uses that lie to accuse the Jews of _whining_ about the
>holocaust. In his words — “Yet by milking those terrible events
>for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel and World Jewry
>(of which I am part) are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.”
>Imagine that… claiming he is Jewish, and calling the Jews
>_whiners_ in the same sentence.

>q) And again, Desmond insists that the Jews only _whine_
>about the holocaust, to apparently commit what he sees as
>atrocities… in his words — “certain sections of the Jewish
>community use the Shoah to justify their own excesses”

>r) And his efforts to take away the meaning of the word
>”anti-Semitic” in the English language. Taking great pains to
>redefine that term in the English language, which left the
>implication that he feels the Jews are USING that term to
>insist that it only applies to them. As when he insisted that
>”anti-Semitism” was — “a word which FuckWit thinks _only_
>applies to those who harbour hatred for the Jews, and not
>the other half-dozen or so Semitic races … *snigger*”
>Desmond abhors the thought that the Jews might actually
>have been the victims of the definition of that word… and
>even ends with a snide laugh at the idea that the word
>only applies to — “hostility toward the Jews.” Does anyone
>actually think that a Jew would try to DISMISS the meaning
>of that term?

>s) And anyone who dares to confront him in respect to his
>support for the legal innocence of the Nazis in killing the
>Jews, or offers any pro-Jewish or pro-Israel comment is
>called a “Nazi” or a “Nazi Bastard.” He does this because
>he finds anyone who insists that the Nazis are not legally
>innocent of killing the Jews, or who offer any pro-Jewish,
>or pro-Israel comments are _Nazi sympathizers_. Because
>HE SEES the Jews as Nazis!!! And thus anyone supporting
>the Jews is such a sympathizer of those he sees as Nazis…
>the Jews… rather than those everyone knows are the real
>Nazis. He is a supporter of what another anti-Jewish
>poster has called “Jewish fascism.” Insisting that the Jews
>have now taken on the persona of those who hoped to
>exterminate them 60 years ago. He thus finds someone who
>supports the Jews of Israel must be a “Nazi.” After all he
>claimed they commit “butchery,” claimed that they are the
>most anti-Semitic people on this planet, and insists that the
>U.S. in supporting the Jews of Israel is also _Nazi_. I believe
>that rational people find the Nazis committed “butchery,”
>and were the most anti-Semitic people on this planet, thus
>I can see how Desmond would find the Jews of Israel to
>be the same as “the Nazis.” And thus, anyone who supports
>the Jews of Israel, must also be a “Nazi Bastard” in HIS
>EYES!.

>He does not see calling someone a “Nazi Bastard” because
>they insist that the Nazis are not legally innocent, or because
>they support Jewish interests, as an ad hominem. He sees
>it simply as _speaking the truth_. He firmly believes that
>those who support the Jews, are _Nazi sympathizers_,
>because he sees the Jews as _Nazis_.

>7) And finally… how he has now swiftly changed his handle…
>hoping that the stronger his lie… the more someone might
>believe him. As his lie begins to unravel, his lie becomes
>more sweeping. Now insisting on that lie in every post
>he offers here. Hoping to garner support for his lie, simply
>if he repeats it often enough. An attempt to bolster that lie
>in a transparent effort to follow the rule that Lenin insisted
>works… that the more the lie is repeated, the more that this
>lie is believed. But no one believes Desmond any longer.

>Because even by changing his handle… comes the admission
>that he has been stung by this exposure that he is not Jewish.
>He felt threatened in his lie here for so many years now
>being exposed. So as usual… his reaction is simply to insist
>all that harder that the lie… is not a lie, if repeated often
>enough. The _denial of lying_ kicks in. Even the changing
>of his handle, demonstrates just how desperate he is to
>perpetuate that lie. Without it, he is exposed for what he
>is… an anti-Semite who opposes every Jewish interest.
>Someone who calls someone who support Jewish interests —
>a “Nazi bastard,” because he sees those who do support
>Jewish interests as _Nazi sympathizers_ for supporting
>the Jews, who he sees as those “Nazis.” While, as usual,
>in his effort to hide that lie… he adds “insult to injury” to
>the Jews, by literally laughing in their face, making a joke
>about a nonexistent claim to being Jewish, over and over
>and over… with that insistent and repetitive sham of a lie.

>But even that was not enough… Now comes his latest effort.
>Not just a claim that he is Jewish, but a claim that he is one
>of the victims of the holocaust! Now insisting over and over
>that he wears a yellow star just as those victims of the
>holocaust. In a final insult to those actual victims of the
>holocaust. After hurling an insult at them, insisting they were
>legally killed… he tries to cover himself with the same yellow
>star that they were forced to endure. Hoping to use the
>Nazi method of requiring every Jew in the holocaust to wear
>such a yellow star.

>And just as those Gestapo thugs operating the death camps and
>the concentration camps, when the allies swept through them,
>tried to put yellow stars on themselves, to pretend they were the
>victims rather than the victimizers, Desmond hopes to pass
>himself off as one of those Jewish victims, to hide the fact that
>he is instead… the victimizer. Hoping to pose as a victim of the
>holocaust… to cover up his lies.

>What he has done is absolutely the worst insult ever offered in
>AADP against the Jewish victims of the holocaust. Now trying
>to _play the role of one of them_. To posture himself as BEING
>one of those victims. No longer content with the lie that he is
>Jewish… but now playing the role of a _drama queen_, hoping
>to “milk” the holocaust for his own advantage. To have others
>see him as one of the victim of the Nazi death camps. While
>he has insisted that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing
>any Jews.
>Only a fool would accept his lie in claiming to be Jewish. But
>fools are in season in AADP. While it is certain that either
>Desmond or John Rennie is a liar… and I’ll put 1000 to 1
>odds on it not being John.
>Now… I suspect that Desmond is in a bit of a rage…
>having been exposed as living a lie here… for so many years.
>And accusing John Rennie of not honoring what Desmond
>presumes is the _honor code of all liars_, to which Desmond
>demands that John Rennie is _honor bound,_ to hide
>Desmond’s lie.. Desmond expect that old _honor among
>thieves_, to be valid for even those who are not thieves.
>But in the end… Desmond is simply a liar.

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From: Ken McVay
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
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WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
forth in this article.

From: [email protected]
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc

22.1.2001

DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA

Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
PORNO- und ABZOCKMAFIA.

Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
machen, werden andere Meldungen – die tatsaechlich
veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.

Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche und alle irren
Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.

Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
“Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis” offenbar problemlos
entfliehen konnte. Wie das?

Der Direktor dieses noblen “Etablishments” und weitere
30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
verhaftet. Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
“Ueberredungskunst” oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
entgegensetzen?

Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
gezeigt. Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.

Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
vor, Jude zu sein. Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
nur der groesste antisemitische und rassistische
Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher, Holocaust-Luegner
und auch Massenmoerder ist.

Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
Ganoven und Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
des von “Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk” fuer nur 12 Monate
Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.

Sei’s wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten –
und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.

Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
muessen sie als Juden nichts.

Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)

Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
wie bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
“Holocaustdenkmaeler” (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).

Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
noch keine “Wiedergutmachungen” und “Entschuldigungen”
(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.

Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.

I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate

KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: [email protected]

My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: [email protected]

Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
National Alliance – www.natvan.com
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.

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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:45:36 -0600, VictorRCurious
wrote:

>Huckster Don Gimble of the Edmonton Canada Economic Development
>group is reported by the media for complaining that they, and others,
>are continually complaining worldwide, that Edmonton Canada is unsafe
>and filthy as well.

>Apart from all the corruption in many city departments, which will
>discourage potential business investors.

>Gimble seems to want media and others to not publicise many well-known
>news srories, such as:

>Thugs of the Edmonton Police savagely beating 20 year-old Kristin
>Wilson to the concrete sidewalk.

>More thugs of the Edmonton police beating up the 66 year old lawyer,
>Mr. Fish, for photographing their crominal brutality.

>The Edmonton cops who shot a suspect in the BACK, 6 times!!

>The fact that the local cops have not arrested or charged the serial
>killer of 107 women sex trade workers!!
>People are now suspecting that this serial killer may in fact be a
>cnother crooked cop, or even a judge or lawyer, which is why the
>cops do not want to find the murderer, because he is one their own!!

>The filth in the city is everywhere, not just from the filthy
>panhandlers begging for cash for their next “fix” in the downtown.

>Look at all the ice not removed by the city from city sidewalks,
>making them very unsafe.

>All the garbage on the rods and in city parks.

>And, never forget the hundreds of thousands of POTHOLES in city roads,
>caused by substandard city road construction, so that the favoured
>city contracting firms get repeat business each year, instead of doing
>the job properly the first time!!

>Corruption is in many departments, usually at the senior levels of
>management.
>
>In the Police department there are several cases worth discussion.
>City council stupidly agreed to give the police chief another $6.3
>MILLION,supposedly to hire another 27 cops.

>Since new recruits start at only $36,000 per man, who gets the extra
>$5.6 MILLION? The chief and his buddies?

>Quite apart from the fact that there was in fact a SAVING of more than
>$2 MILLION in payroll, because there are 30 overpaid senior cops reiring
>this year!! The deadwood cops get between $80,000-$140,000,total around $3
>MILLION, while the recruits get only $36K – total of $ONE MILLION!!

>Is this more graft and corruption?
>The Audtor for Edmonton MUST investigate!!

>The local chief cop is quoted in today’s Sun as complaining about not
>being able to raise the pay for new cop recruits.

>The Chief is responsible for WASTING OVER $ONE MILLION,
>by having already 8 uselss hacks and flacks in the police BS section.
>To add insult to injury, they hired hack #9, at an advertised base
>salary of over $95,000! That means a taxpayer cost of over A MILLION
>DOLLARS FOR THE BS SECTION OF THE POLICE!!

>That money could have been used to hire at least another 25 new
>recruits, who might have been helpful in catching criminals, when not
>sitting in coffee shops!

>Mind you, with what the chief and deputy chiefs get paid, why can’t
>they themselves do their own press conferences, since they are
>supposed to be fluent in English?

>To add insult to injury, the CPRN – Community Police Radio Network –
>comprised of thousandfs of stupid local citizens, have to supply their
>own vehicles, gas,radio equipment and even pay for their uniforms, just to
>do the work of the cops who should be hired instead of the useless BS/PR
>staff!!

>When the media must expose the fact that Deadmonton has an abysmal
>record for arresting murderers compared to other cities, taxpayers
>have a right to corelate the squandering of a $MILLION FOR HACKS & FLACKS,
>instead of having proper police protection for our skyrocketing
>taxes!!

>No wonder this city needs the Guardian Angels.
>At least they do not waste millions of taxpayer dollars!

>This is the same cops who wasted $2.5 MILLION for a doghouse
>for 10 mutts!!

>The city tax assessment department is another bunch of crooks!
>A private citizen had to take the city to tax court, and proved that a
>lawyer had had his mansion DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A
>MILLION DOLLARS, for 8 years at $149,500, instead of $600,000!!

>And huckster Gimble does not want all the bad news publicised.

>Guess again Gimble. Now the flood of articles will be publicised even
>wider, all around the world.

Remember last fall, when the city tried to give away 4 round-trip tickets from
eastern Canada to Deadmonton, and people REFUSED FREE TICKETS
FOR A HOLIDAY TO EDMONTON?

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Man muss wundern, wer hat die $32 MILLIONEN, wenn das Plant existiert nicht?

On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:14:42 -0600, Joe Bruno wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>
>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.
>
>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>
>From: Ken Levi
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>
>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>
>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?
>
>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, [email protected]
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt – Did GEKO pay the taxes
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year’s Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times – 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign…
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Did he originate the true saying, that faggots are good only for incineration?

On 29 Sep 2006 18:39:34 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Brit anti-Gay Bigot Escapes Prosecution for Hate Literature

>Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn’t Fit

>The Independent – Sep 29, 2006
>http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article1771850.ece

>Christian Voice director escapes prosecution over anti-gay literature

>By Terry Kirby, Chief Reporter

>For some, he is a much-needed voice against an increasingly Godless
>society, representing the views of a significant but largely silent
>section of the population.
>
>But for a great many others, Stephen Green, the director of Christian
>Voice, is a solitary individual, unrepresentative of wider opinion and
>only given prominence by the willingness of the media to offer him a
>platform.
>
>Yesterday, Mr Green was in the public eye once again, after the Crown
>Prosecution Service decided not to prosecute him for breaching public
>order at a gay festival in Cardiff this month, when he handed out
>leaflets quoting the Bible as saying same-sex sex was a sin.
>
>Charges against Mr Green, 54, who lives in Carmarthenshire, of using
>threatening behaviour or insulting words, or behaviour likely to cause
>harassment, alarm or distress, were dropped at a pre-trial hearing in
>Cardiff because of insufficient evidence.
>
>Mr Green responded by calling the Minorities Support Unit officer who
>arrested him a “pompous ass” from a “politically correct” unit and
>threatening to sue the police.
>
>It is such battles that Mr Green relishes – they give him the opportunity
>to expound his uncompromising views, which include opposition to
>abortion, which he likens to the Holocaust, and homosexuality, the
>subject of his lengthy book, The Sexual Dead End.
>
>”We live in Godless society, in which secular humanism has won over
>residual Christianity,” he said.
>
>After many years as a fringe figure – most notably with the Conservative
>Family Campaign – Mr Green, a builder by trade, became full-time chairman
>of Christian Voice three years ago. Born in south London and raised as an
>Anglican, he says he is no longer a Conservative or an Anglican and now
>lives in west Wales, where he is a member of the local Pentecostal
>church.
>
>He came to prominence early last year when he campaigned against the
>BBC’s decision to broadcast the multi-award winning “Jerry Springer – The
>Opera”.
>
>Although his group is believed to have only a few hundred members – he
>will not say how many – they bombarded the BBC with letters and e-mails
>and placed the home addresses of senior executives on their website,
>causing a number to receive death threats.
>
>Subsequent campaigns and protests restricted a provincial tour of the
>show. He also persuaded Maggie’s Centres for cancer sufferers to turn
>down a #10,000 donation from the show after threatening to picket the
>charity. The BBC was later criticised for inviting Mr Green to appear on
>Question Time and revised its policy on his group.
>
>He has also campaigned, without success, against the Gay Police
>Association, particularly the participation of officers in gay pride
>marches, which led to his arrest in Cardiff. He wrote to all the
>country’s chief constables about the issue. All rejected his complaint
>and one, Terence Grange, the Chief Constable of Dyfed-Powys Police, wrote
>back: “As a lifelong practicing Catholic… I must advise you that I find
>your views morally offensive and totally reprehensible and I would be
>grateful if you would cease further communication.”
>
>Mr Green also protested against Wayne Rooney’s Nike adverts – condemned
>for “tasteless” use of Christian symbolism, a television documentary
>featuring anatomist Gunther von Hagens demonstrating the effects of a
>crucifixion, and the marriage of the Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker
>Bowles – on the basis that the latter was still married in the eyes of
>God.
>
>When Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, Mr Green declared it was
>”God’s wrath” and had brought “purity” to the city.
>
>While he has enjoyed some support from right-wing Christian groups and
>bodies such as Media-watchUK, the successor to Mary Whitehouse’s National
>Viewers and Listeners Association, mainstream churches have distanced
>themselves. A Church of England spokesman said they were “aware” of his
>activities, but would not be drawn further.
>
>Some, however, have been more forthright: the Rev Dr David Peel, the
>Moderator of the General Assembly of the United Reformed Church said
>Christian Voice was “a small, self-selecting group distinguished mainly
>by its absurd claim to represent Christians”. Bodies such as the National
>Secular Society and the British Humanist Association have also criticised
>Mr Green for being unrepresentative. “I think the media have given him an
>authority that he doesn’t deserve,” said Terry Sanderson, of the NSS.
>
>Surprisingly, Mr Green agrees: “There is absolutely no reason why I
>should have any prominence at all,” he says, adding: “But things have a
>habit of capturing the public imagination.”
>
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:17:58 GMT, in can.politics “torresD”
wrote:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/772409.html
Four top doctors arrested over illegal human experimentation

By Ran Reznik, Haaretz Correspondent

Four senior doctors at Kaplan Hospital in Rehovot
and Hartzfeld Geriatric Hospital in Gedera suspected
of illegally experimenting on humans were arrested Monday.

The national fraud squad has opened an investigation into the affair.

The four are suspected of abuse, aggravated assault, causing death
through negligence, fraud, forgery,breach of statutory duty, and
disruption of legal proceedings.

The Tel Aviv Magistrate’s Court on Monday extended by three days
the remands of Kaplan-Hartzfeld deputy director Dr. Shmuel Levi
and Dr. Nadia Kagensky.

The third suspect, Dr. Alona Smirnov, was released to house arrest
for five days, and the fourth suspect was released following an
investigation.

Police searched the houses of all four suspects and confiscated
incriminating documents.

Many of the details of the affair were revealed in a series of Haaretz
articles on the subject, as well as Channel 2 TV’s investigative
documentary series “Fact.”

In May 2005, the State Comptroller’s Office slammed the hospitals
over the illegal experimentation in a report.

According to a report issued by the investigations department of the
Health Ministry and exposed by Haaretz, the hospitals in Gedera
and Rehovot conducted illegal and unethical testing on thousands
of elderly patients for years.

During one of the incidents described, twelve patients died either
during the experiments or shortly after they took place, but these
incidents were not reported to the Health Ministry or investigated,
as is required by law.

The Health Ministry’s director general filed a complaint with police
following an internal inquiry into the affair and the fraud squad
confiscated from the hospitals many documents pertaining
to the experimentation.

The ministry’s investigation revealed that some of the patients were
included in the experiments without providing their consent,
while some of them suffered from severe mental damage,
which prevented them from being legally capable of
providing consent.

According to the report, some of the tests did not even yield any
medically or scientifically beneficial results.

Furthermore, some of the experiments were conducted
despite top doctors’ warnings that they were illegal or unethical.

The report voices harsh criticism of the Helsinki committee at the
hospitals, responsible for approving the experiments and failing
to protect the public’s best interests.

The ministry’s report further condemns the hospital’s management
for failing to address the complaints and information handed to it
over the past few years, describing the flawed medical procedures.

According to the report, some doctors received promotions,
both in their professional and academic careers, on the basis
of the illegal tests.

In some cases, the tests were used as the basis for research
studies published in local and international medical journals.

At least four doctors at the hospitals were named as experts in
Geriatrics based on the illegal tests they allegedly conducted
along with their colleagues.

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, “Godzilla Pimp” wrote:

>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1

>”German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a “holocaust”.”

>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it,
>among other cities like Hamburg.

>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course,
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb
>”goyim” (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes,
>Christianity being the most notable one.

>GP

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, “Godzilla Pimp” wrote:

>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1

>”German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a “holocaust”.”

>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it,
>among other cities like Hamburg.

>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course,
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb
>”goyim” (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes,
>Christianity being the most notable one.

>GP

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:58:40 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
[email protected] (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:

Dresden
Kevin Alfred Strom

The night of February 13th, and February 14th, Valentine’s Day, mark an
ominous anniversary in the history of Western Civilization. For
beginning on the night of February 13th, 1945, occurred the destruction
of Dresden.

On the eve of Valentine’s Day, 1945, World War II in Europe was nearly
over. For all practical purposes Germany was already defeated. Italy,
and Germany’s other European allies, had fallen by the wayside. The Red
Army was rushing to occupy vast areas of what had been Germany in the
East, while the allies of the Soviets, the British and Americans, were
bombing what was left of Germany’s defenses and food and transportation
infrastructure into nonexistence.

And what was Dresden? Most of you have probably heard of Dresden China,
and that delicately executed and meticulously detailed porcelain is
really a perfect symbol for that city.

For centuries Dresden had been a center of art and culture, and refined
leisure and recreation. She was a city of art museums and theatres,
circuses and sports stadia, a town of ancient half-timbered buildings
looking for all the world like those of medieval England, with venerable
churches and centuries-old cathedrals gracing her skyline. She was a
city of artists and craftsmen, of actors and dancers, of tourists and
the merchants and hotels that served them.
Above all, what Dresden was, was defined during the war by what she was
not. She had no significant military or industrial installations.
Because of this, Dresden had become, above all other things that she
was, a city of children, of women, of refugees, and of the injured and
maimed who were recovering from their wounds in her many hospitals.

These women and children, these wounded soldiers, these infirm and
elderly people, these refugees fleeing from the brutal onslaught of the
Communist armies to the East, had come to Dresden because it was
commonly believed at the time that Dresden would not be attacked. Its
lack of strategic or military or industrial significance, and the
well-known presence of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian
refugees and even Allied prisoners of war, seemed to guarantee safety to
the city. Surely, it was thought, not even a the most powerful and
determined enemy would be so depraved and sadistic, and so wasteful of
that enemy’s own resources, to attack such a city. But the people of
Dresden, who were happily attending the cinema or eating dinner at home
or watching the show-horses in the circus on that fateful night were
wrong, wrong, wrong. And their leaders were also wrong, for the city was
virtually open and undefended and only minimal civil defense
preparations had been made.

Dresden’s population had almost doubled in the months before the attack,
mainly as a result of the influx of refugees from the Eastern Front,
most of them women and young children.

According to British historian David Irving, the briefings given to the
British bomber squadrons before the attack on Dresden were curiously
different. In one, the soldiers were told that their target was the
railway center of Dresden. In another, they were told that the target
was a poison-gas factory. In yet another, they were told that the target
was a marshalling-grounds for troops in the city. Another was told that
the target was a major arsenal. These were all lies.
The only marshalling-grounds for what few troops were in the area were
located well outside the city. The arsenal had burned down in 1916.
There were factories for toothpaste and baby-powder in Dresden, but none
for poison gas. There were, in fact, no fewer than eighteen railway
stations in Dresden, but only one was hit by the bombing, and that was
barely touched and in fact was operating again just three days later.

According to copious documentation unearthed by David Irving from the
archives of the American and British governments, the point of the
attack was in fact to inflict the maximum loss of life on the civilian
population and particularly to kill as many refugees as possible who
were fleeing from the Red Army. In achieving these goals it was highly
successful. It was thus planned and executed by those at the very
highest levels of the British and American governments, who to attain
their purposes even lied to their own soldiers and citizens, who to this
day have never been told the full story by their leaders.
How was this devastating effect accomplished?
At 10:10 PM on February 13th, the first wave of the attack, consisting
of the British Number 5 Bomber Group, began. The attacking force
consisted of about 2,000 bombers with additional support craft, which
dropped over 3,000 high explosive and 650,000 incendiary bombs (more
commonly known as firebombs) on the center of the city. Incendiary bombs
are not known for their efficiency per pound in destroying heavy
equipment such as military hardware or railroad tracks, but are
extremely effective in producing maximum loss of human life. The loads
carried by the bombers were over 75 per cent incendiaries. In fact, the
goal of the first wave of the attack was, according to British air
commander Sir Arthur Bomber Harris, to set the city well on fire. That
he did.

The lack of any effective anti-aircraft defenses allowed the bombers to
drop to very low altitudes and thus a relatively high degree of
precision and visual identification of targets was achieved. Despite the
fact that they could clearly see that the marked target area contained
hospitals and sports stadia and residential areas of center city
Dresden, the bombers nevertheless obeyed orders and rained down a fiery
death upon the unlucky inhabitants of that city on a scale which had
never before been seen on planet Earth.

Hundreds of thousands of innocents were literally consumed by fire, an
actual holocaust by the true definition of the word: complete
consumption by fire.

Dresden after its holocaust
The incendiaries started thousands of fires and, aided by a stiff wind
and the early-on destruction of the telephone exchanges that might have
summoned firefighters from nearby towns, these fires soon coalesced into
one unimaginably huge firestorm. Now such firestorms are not natural
phenomena, and are seldom created by man, so few people have any idea of
their nature. Basically, what happened was this: The intense heat caused
by the huge column of smoke and flame, miles high and thousands of acres
in area, created a terrific updraft of air in the center of the column.
This created a very low pressure at the base of the column, and
surrounding fresh air rushed inward at speeds estimated to be thirty
times that of an ordinary tornado. An ordinary tornado wind-force is a
result of temperature differences of perhaps 20 to 30 degrees
centigrade. In this firestorm the temperature differences were on the
order of 600 to 1,000 degrees centigrade. This inward-rushing air
further fed the flames, creating a literal tornado of fire, with winds
in the surrounding area of many hundreds of miles per hour — sweeping
men, women, children, animals, vehicles and uprooted trees pell-mell
into the glowing inferno.

But this was only the first stage of the plan.
Exactly on schedule, three hours after the first attack, a second
massive armada of British bombers arrived, again loaded with high
explosive and massive quantities of incendiary bombs. The residents of
Dresden, their power systems destroyed by the first raid, had no warning
of the second. Again the British bombers attacked the center city of
Dresden, this time dividing their targets — one half of the bombs
were to be dropped into the center of the conflagration, to keep it
going, the other half around the edges of the firestorm. No pretense
whatever was made of selecting military targets. The timing of the
second armada was such as to ensure that a large quantity of the
surviving civilians would have emerged from their shelters by that time,
which was the case, and also in hopes that rescue and firefighting crews
would have arrived from surrounding cities, which also proved to be
true. The firefighters and medics thus incinerated hadn’t needed the
telephone exchange to know that they were needed — the firestorm was
visible from a distance of 200 miles.

It is reported that body parts, pieces of clothing, tree branches, huge
quantities of ashes, and miscellaneous debris from the firestorm fell
for days on the surrounding countryside as far away as eighteen miles.
After the attack finally subsided, rescue workers found nothing but
liquefied remains of the inhabitants of some shelters, where even the
metal kitchen utensils had melted from the intense heat.

The next day, Ash Wednesday and Valentine’s Day, 1945, medical and other
emergency personnel from all over central Germany had converged on
Dresden. Little did they suspect that yet a third wave of bombers was on
its way, this time American. This attack had been carefully coordinated
with the previous raids. Four hundred fifty Flying Fortresses and a
support contingent of fighters arrived to finish the job at noon. I
quote from David Irving’s The Destruction of Dresden:

“Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires
and cobbled streets …. now total war had put an end to all that.
..The ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the
people to their knees… but it was not the bombs which finally
demoralised the people … it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly
appeared low over the city, firing on everything that moved …. one
section of the Mustangs concentrated on the river banks, where masses of
bombed-out people had gathered. … British prisoners who had been
released from their burning camps were among the first to suffer the
discomfort of machine-gunning attacks …. wherever columns of tramping
people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the
fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire.” [Image: Dresden
skyline after Allied saturation bombing.]

Ladies and gentlemen, on this program I can only give you a bare glimpse
of the inhuman horror of the holocaust of Dresden. In Dresden, no fewer
than 135,000 innocent victims died, with some estimates as high as
300,000. More died in Dresden than died in the well-known attacks on
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

More destruction befell Dresden in one day than was inflicted on the
whole of Britain during the entire war. And yet you haven’t been told.

I urge every one of you to read The Destruction of Dresden by David
Irving. I assure you, after reading Irving’s book, you will never take
seriously the Establishment’s version of what happened in that war
again.

What you ought to take seriously, though, is the fact that the same
clique that controlled the traitorous Roosevelt and Churchill
governments, whose hatred of our race and civilization and whose
alliance with Communism were the real causes of the holocaust of
Dresden, still controls our government and our media today. It is they
who are pushing for a disarmed, racially mixed America. It is they who
promote the teaching of sodomy to our young children. It is they who are
destroying our industrial infrastructure in the name of a global
economy. It is they who created the drug subculture and then also the
police state agencies which pretend to fight it.

The hour is very late for America and indeed for all of Western
civilization. But if patriots will heed our call, then there is no
reason for despair. For the enemies of our nation may have power, but
their power is based on lies. Won’t you help us cut through the chain of
lies that holds our people in mental slavery?
Every year, families should commemorate the anniversary of the holocaust
of Dresden on the eve of 13th February.

Free Speech — David Irving has generously made his Destruction of
Dresden available as a free download, in PDF format, at his Focal Point
Press website.


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minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. ” —
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prizes would fall out of him. ”

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If you adopt your enemy’s religion you are enslaved.

If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed.”

— Polydoros

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It is not a thing to be waited for – it is a thing to be achieved . ”

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From: Vishnu – destroyer of Nazi Coughlan’s support of the Shoah

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On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, “Philippe ‘Suffer the little children to come
onto me and give me a blowjob’ KKKoughlan ”
after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:

>https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/

Oh, my… KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more. The fight
is on… and the votes are now being cast. Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
hate the Jews more?

Think KKK doesn’t hate the Jews? Think again. This is just a short list
of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
the “innocence” (sic) of every Nazi —

His words — “The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.” See —
http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as “inhuman.”

His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution for those found
guilty of being Jewish’.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf

His words — “even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man…” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
Insisting that Auschwitz was “more humane” than California. And one elder
murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.

His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to refer to the legal execution
of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f

His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal…” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6

His words — “if it’s legal, it’s moral, Jed” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews “legally inhuman” and MORAL
to kill six million of them.

His words — “Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631

His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
Wiesenthal —
“At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
was a crime under international law.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
KKK insists was the “murder by lynching” of Eichmann.

In respect to the question — “Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?”
His words — “Isn’t there room for mercy ? For the sure knowledge that this
91-year- old man, isn’t in a position to harm anyone.”
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi… because he insist it’s been
60 years.

His words — “German society said that the extermination of the Jews
was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of “German society.”
He might as well have said — “Every German was a Nazi guard in an
Eastern European extermination camp.” Since his comment means
just the same. A large part of the German population of that time
might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
idea that “German society” supported the HOLOCAUST as a
“moral, legal, ethical thing to do,” is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
made in AADP.

His words — “In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
than 25 years. The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
Treblinka was measured in minutes. Yet he insists that “morally and legally”
this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
murderer.

His words — “Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles. In addition to
him claiming the Holocaust was moral. And concluding with that
obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
his words — ” Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ.”

Notice that he DARED to mention “human rights,” given the bloody
past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews. The persecution for
those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
Jews. All part of what he argued was the “bright beacon of morality”
in Europe during what he insists was “it’s Golden age of persecution
of the Jews.” Yeah… Americans are in awe and
insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems and dispatching
them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years. Let’s all
give a big cheer for Jesus ‘motherfucker’ Christ…the name lent to
being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time… but
KKKoughlan’s hero.

His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today — “yet by
milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being
pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
is less than 150% pro-Jewish. Essentially insulting every Jew
living today.

His words — “certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
justify their own excesses.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
justify their own excesses.

His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is ‘just’, in
which case, so was the extermination of the Jews. See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
ever witnessed in AADP. Since the proposition is only true if one equates
convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews. But looking beyond
that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be “just,” by his definition must also find
the Holocaust to have been “just.”

His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic — “However, it’s fatuous to claim that Europe
is ‘anti-Semitic’, based on the number of ‘anti-Semitic’ events that take
place. If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
anti-Semitic country on the planet.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.

He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
Bernard, who referred to Israel as “that shitty little country.” In his
post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
and defended that perverse comment. One of his comments in
that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was — “Israel does not need to
kill children, to ensure its survival. Israel does not need to target the
innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival. Israel does
not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
ensure its survival. The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
long run, than they will help it. Sharon came to power on a security
‘ticket’, and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
ensured the security of Israel and her citizens.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
innocent Jews. Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a “kill every
Jew” ticket. As he also admits he is “anti-Jewish government.”

He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11. His
words — “I’d put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
attacks.” While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent. See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d

Of course he also screamed in rage that — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
spagmerchant.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5

But when it came to providing what he considered “proof” of him being
Jewish, he stated — “I don’t believe in God … but I was ‘born Jewish.’
See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6

And how many here… even those who would call him a “friend,” have said they
believe he is Jewish? The answer is ZERO. Even when I cajole them for an
answer.
While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
Jewish. All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
“wears the yellow star” as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
using that handle. The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
personal comic parody.

And of course we have John Rennie’s comment regarding the personal
conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here — “DESMOND
UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130

Planet Visitor II
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html

KKKoughlan’s words — “”send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to
give me a blowjob whenever I want one.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf

Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan’s own feeling as to
who he considers a “CHILD.” If so, let me provide KKKoughlan’s own
words of who he feels is a “CHILD.” His words — “”the term ‘child’ isn’t
defined by you and your NRA buddies. It’s defined in international law,
and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday.” See —
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928

KKKoughlan… a self-admitted pedophile.

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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne” wrote:
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann

>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001

>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm

>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.

>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.

>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.

>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.

>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”

>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.

>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.

>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron

>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.

>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.

>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”

>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.

>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.

>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”

>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.

>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.

>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.

>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.

>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.

>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.

>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.

>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.

>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.

>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.

>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM

>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.

>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.

>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.

>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.

>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”

>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.

>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.

>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.

>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.

>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”

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Subject: Re: GEKO-Wer Hat $32 MILLIONEN fuer Plant in Edmonton Kanada,nach 3 Jahre? Geld Verschwunden?
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On TV, reporters are complaining about the fact that GEKO never did build the
facility in Edmonton, Canada, which was supposed to cost C$32 Million!!

Man muss wundern, wer hat $32 Millionen Geld, wenn es kein Plant gibt?
Ist $32 MILLIONEN verschwunden?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:23:37 -0700, Ariadne wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!

>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.

>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.

>From: Ken Levi
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700

>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??

>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?

>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, [email protected]
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt – Did GEKO pay the taxes
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year’s Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times – 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign…
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:49 -0400, “El Conquistador”
wrote:

>’Misuse of Canada’s identity’ questioned in Israeli spy operation

>Stewart Bell
>National Post

>A SENIOR Cabinet official questioned the head of Israel’s security service
>about allegations Israeli undercover agents posed as Canadians during an
>operation to assassinate a Palestinian terrorist leader, newly released
>documents show.

>Although Ottawa has said publicly it was convinced all along the spy claims
>were false, internal documents obtained yesterday show the matter has
>continued to concern the government and has been the subject of
>behind-the-scenes diplomacy.

>In a confidential report, officials said they were concerned about “other
>countries’ intelligence services misusing Canada’s identity” and that “such
>misuse endangers Canadians travelling around the world and undermines the
>integrity of Canadian passports.”

>Ronald Bilodeau, the Privy Council Office security and intelligence
>co-ordinator and Cabinet assistant secretary, met on Oct. 1 with the head of
>the Israeli Security Agency, whose spies allegedly used false Canadian
>identities during the operation in Gaza.

>”The ISA is reported to have recently had its agents pose as Canadians to
>lure a Palestinian, 22-year-old Akram Zatmeh, into informing on Intifada
>leaders in return for promises of resettlement in Canada,” according to a
>”Secret: Canadian Eyes Only” memo prepared for the meeting.

> The documents do not describe the response of the ISA chief, who reports
>directly to Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister. Israel has denied the
>claims. But the papers show Ottawa was worried about being linked to a spy
>operation and a botched assassination that killed 14 bystanders, nine of
>them children.

>The allegations surfaced in August, when Mr. Zatmeh publicly detailed how he
>was lured into becoming an Israeli informant by agents who told him they
>were Canadians and could help him immigrate. Mr. Zatmeh said he was
>recruited by three “Canadian” agents who brought him to the Canadian embassy
>in Tel Aviv before coercing him into helping them, with doctored photos that
>showed him with naked women.

>On July 23, Mr. Zatmeh helped Israeli agents pinpoint the location of Sheik
>Salah Shehadeh, a Hamas leader. Twenty minutes later, an Israeli F-16 fired
>a one-tonne missile at the building, killing not only the sheik but also
>more than a dozen bystanders.

>Mr. Zatmeh was later arrested as a collaborator and is facing a possible
>death sentence.

>”Our initial concern … was that the press articles could be seen by some
>as alleging Canadian involvement with Israel in the assassination of Sheik
>Salah Shehadeh,” according to an Aug. 29 internal government memo. “Canada
>has nothing to do with this or with any other purported Israeli operation.”

>After the Post learned of the informant’s allegations, officials told the
>newspaper on Sept. 4 they were satisfied the claims were false. However,
>hours after the Post report on Sept. 5, John McNee, assistant deputy
>minister for Africa and the Mideast, discussed the matter with Haim Divon,
>Israel’s ambassador to Canada.

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Subject: Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen/FS or TRADE $3 Million CV Stamp Collections-
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We seek a qualified buyer of all our stock, for cash payable to our bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
GB
Canada
Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
Austria
Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
The reason for sale, eyesight going blind.
Am NOT interested in consigning, or auction, only full cash sale.

We mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.
May consider part swap for something significant, such as clear title cottage,
motorhome, or?
Am located in northern Canada.

Reply to: [email protected]

P.S. Nigerian Scam and similar just disregarded as worthless.

Verkauf/Tausch $3 Millionen BiefmarkenSammlungen von
Briefmarken Sammlungen Zu Verfügen

Wir suchen einen Käufer von unserer ganzen Aktie, für Bargeld das zahlbar
ist zu unseren Bankiers.
Ungefähr $3 Millionen KatalogwertF, mit Hauptgebieten
des Interesses:
GB
Kanada
Deutschland
Britische Commonwealth
Frankreich
Vereinigten Staaten
Australien
Österreich
Schweiz
Israel usw.

Wenn interessiert, freundlich rät.
Der Grund zum Verkauf, gehend Sehvermögen
blendet.
Ich verliere meine Sicht, und bekomme Blinde.
Wir bedeuten, dass BARGELD für den Käufer alle nimmt, nicht Schecke,
Kann teils Tausch für etwas bedeutsames, wie
zum Beispiel klares Titellandhaus, motorhome, oder bedenken?
Bin in nördlichem Kanada befunden.
P. S. Nigerianisch Scam und ähnlich hat nur als
wertlos nicht beachtet.

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white “Whip”
wrote:

“JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS” IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, “disappeared” in the
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk. their burnt bodies have been found in
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

“I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination”, he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor
overweight among the jury.

“The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without
burial”, Mr Nazarov said.

“And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who … copies American gangstes
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs,
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin”, Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism “thedarkman”
wrote:

I wouldn’t pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don’t
these people make you wanna laugh?

http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm

Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper “The Guardian,” Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,”Pasque di Sangue” (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper “Corriere Della
Sera,” which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff’s book reportedly “describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ’s execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for ‘magic and
therapeutic practices,'” noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff’s
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of “Rachel” on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah’s interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that “participated in human sacrifice,” undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: …You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who’s been involved and who hasn’t been involved, and it’s
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it’s a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There’s other Jewish families across the country. It’s
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I’ve spoke publicly before, and…

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it’s like if you grow
up with something, you think it’s normal. I always thought
something…

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don’t have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know…

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin’s ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.

Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book “Blood Ritual” by Philip DeVier and the
DVD “Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed,” the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:18:42 -0600, “_ Prof. Jonez _” wrote:
>Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2975547&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

>> The UK pirates were pretending to be on a mission from the UN.

>> Some Iranian merchants had a ship-load of automobiles – autos
>> that The Crown decided were probably stolen. So, The Crown,
>> dispatched a pirate ship to seize the cargo.

>> Of course, the accusations were wrong. The cargo was perfectly
>> legitimate. However, the UK sailors who attacked the ship, were
>> not so legitimate.

>> So now the Iranians have seized the British ship and arrested
>> its crew. They will be tried for piracy on the High Seas.

>> If found guilty, they may qualify for the Death Penalty under
>> Iranian law.

Not only under the laws of Iran, but even under international law.

An executed pirate, no matter from whatever country, will never re-offend!!

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, “Godzilla Pimp” wrote:

>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1

>”German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a “holocaust”.”

>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it,
>among other cities like Hamburg.

>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course,
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb
>”goyim” (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes,
>Christianity being the most notable one.

>GP

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:58:40 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
[email protected] (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:

Dresden
Kevin Alfred Strom

The night of February 13th, and February 14th, Valentine’s Day, mark an
ominous anniversary in the history of Western Civilization. For
beginning on the night of February 13th, 1945, occurred the destruction
of Dresden.

On the eve of Valentine’s Day, 1945, World War II in Europe was nearly
over. For all practical purposes Germany was already defeated. Italy,
and Germany’s other European allies, had fallen by the wayside. The Red
Army was rushing to occupy vast areas of what had been Germany in the
East, while the allies of the Soviets, the British and Americans, were
bombing what was left of Germany’s defenses and food and transportation
infrastructure into nonexistence.

And what was Dresden? Most of you have probably heard of Dresden China,
and that delicately executed and meticulously detailed porcelain is
really a perfect symbol for that city.

For centuries Dresden had been a center of art and culture, and refined
leisure and recreation. She was a city of art museums and theatres,
circuses and sports stadia, a town of ancient half-timbered buildings
looking for all the world like those of medieval England, with venerable
churches and centuries-old cathedrals gracing her skyline. She was a
city of artists and craftsmen, of actors and dancers, of tourists and
the merchants and hotels that served them.
Above all, what Dresden was, was defined during the war by what she was
not. She had no significant military or industrial installations.
Because of this, Dresden had become, above all other things that she
was, a city of children, of women, of refugees, and of the injured and
maimed who were recovering from their wounds in her many hospitals.

These women and children, these wounded soldiers, these infirm and
elderly people, these refugees fleeing from the brutal onslaught of the
Communist armies to the East, had come to Dresden because it was
commonly believed at the time that Dresden would not be attacked. Its
lack of strategic or military or industrial significance, and the
well-known presence of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian
refugees and even Allied prisoners of war, seemed to guarantee safety to
the city. Surely, it was thought, not even a the most powerful and
determined enemy would be so depraved and sadistic, and so wasteful of
that enemy’s own resources, to attack such a city. But the people of
Dresden, who were happily attending the cinema or eating dinner at home
or watching the show-horses in the circus on that fateful night were
wrong, wrong, wrong. And their leaders were also wrong, for the city was
virtually open and undefended and only minimal civil defense
preparations had been made.

Dresden’s population had almost doubled in the months before the attack,
mainly as a result of the influx of refugees from the Eastern Front,
most of them women and young children.

According to British historian David Irving, the briefings given to the
British bomber squadrons before the attack on Dresden were curiously
different. In one, the soldiers were told that their target was the
railway center of Dresden. In another, they were told that the target
was a poison-gas factory. In yet another, they were told that the target
was a marshalling-grounds for troops in the city. Another was told that
the target was a major arsenal. These were all lies.
The only marshalling-grounds for what few troops were in the area were
located well outside the city. The arsenal had burned down in 1916.
There were factories for toothpaste and baby-powder in Dresden, but none
for poison gas. There were, in fact, no fewer than eighteen railway
stations in Dresden, but only one was hit by the bombing, and that was
barely touched and in fact was operating again just three days later.

According to copious documentation unearthed by David Irving from the
archives of the American and British governments, the point of the
attack was in fact to inflict the maximum loss of life on the civilian
population and particularly to kill as many refugees as possible who
were fleeing from the Red Army. In achieving these goals it was highly
successful. It was thus planned and executed by those at the very
highest levels of the British and American governments, who to attain
their purposes even lied to their own soldiers and citizens, who to this
day have never been told the full story by their leaders.
How was this devastating effect accomplished?
At 10:10 PM on February 13th, the first wave of the attack, consisting
of the British Number 5 Bomber Group, began. The attacking force
consisted of about 2,000 bombers with additional support craft, which
dropped over 3,000 high explosive and 650,000 incendiary bombs (more
commonly known as firebombs) on the center of the city. Incendiary bombs
are not known for their efficiency per pound in destroying heavy
equipment such as military hardware or railroad tracks, but are
extremely effective in producing maximum loss of human life. The loads
carried by the bombers were over 75 per cent incendiaries. In fact, the
goal of the first wave of the attack was, according to British air
commander Sir Arthur Bomber Harris, to set the city well on fire. That
he did.

The lack of any effective anti-aircraft defenses allowed the bombers to
drop to very low altitudes and thus a relatively high degree of
precision and visual identification of targets was achieved. Despite the
fact that they could clearly see that the marked target area contained
hospitals and sports stadia and residential areas of center city
Dresden, the bombers nevertheless obeyed orders and rained down a fiery
death upon the unlucky inhabitants of that city on a scale which had
never before been seen on planet Earth.

Hundreds of thousands of innocents were literally consumed by fire, an
actual holocaust by the true definition of the word: complete
consumption by fire.

Dresden after its holocaust
The incendiaries started thousands of fires and, aided by a stiff wind
and the early-on destruction of the telephone exchanges that might have
summoned firefighters from nearby towns, these fires soon coalesced into
one unimaginably huge firestorm. Now such firestorms are not natural
phenomena, and are seldom created by man, so few people have any idea of
their nature. Basically, what happened was this: The intense heat caused
by the huge column of smoke and flame, miles high and thousands of acres
in area, created a terrific updraft of air in the center of the column.
This created a very low pressure at the base of the column, and
surrounding fresh air rushed inward at speeds estimated to be thirty
times that of an ordinary tornado. An ordinary tornado wind-force is a
result of temperature differences of perhaps 20 to 30 degrees
centigrade. In this firestorm the temperature differences were on the
order of 600 to 1,000 degrees centigrade. This inward-rushing air
further fed the flames, creating a literal tornado of fire, with winds
in the surrounding area of many hundreds of miles per hour — sweeping
men, women, children, animals, vehicles and uprooted trees pell-mell
into the glowing inferno.

But this was only the first stage of the plan.
Exactly on schedule, three hours after the first attack, a second
massive armada of British bombers arrived, again loaded with high
explosive and massive quantities of incendiary bombs. The residents of
Dresden, their power systems destroyed by the first raid, had no warning
of the second. Again the British bombers attacked the center city of
Dresden, this time dividing their targets — one half of the bombs
were to be dropped into the center of the conflagration, to keep it
going, the other half around the edges of the firestorm. No pretense
whatever was made of selecting military targets. The timing of the
second armada was such as to ensure that a large quantity of the
surviving civilians would have emerged from their shelters by that time,
which was the case, and also in hopes that rescue and firefighting crews
would have arrived from surrounding cities, which also proved to be
true. The firefighters and medics thus incinerated hadn’t needed the
telephone exchange to know that they were needed — the firestorm was
visible from a distance of 200 miles.

It is reported that body parts, pieces of clothing, tree branches, huge
quantities of ashes, and miscellaneous debris from the firestorm fell
for days on the surrounding countryside as far away as eighteen miles.
After the attack finally subsided, rescue workers found nothing but
liquefied remains of the inhabitants of some shelters, where even the
metal kitchen utensils had melted from the intense heat.

The next day, Ash Wednesday and Valentine’s Day, 1945, medical and other
emergency personnel from all over central Germany had converged on
Dresden. Little did they suspect that yet a third wave of bombers was on
its way, this time American. This attack had been carefully coordinated
with the previous raids. Four hundred fifty Flying Fortresses and a
support contingent of fighters arrived to finish the job at noon. I
quote from David Irving’s The Destruction of Dresden:

“Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires
and cobbled streets …. now total war had put an end to all that.
..The ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the
people to their knees… but it was not the bombs which finally
demoralised the people … it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly
appeared low over the city, firing on everything that moved …. one
section of the Mustangs concentrated on the river banks, where masses of
bombed-out people had gathered. … British prisoners who had been
released from their burning camps were among the first to suffer the
discomfort of machine-gunning attacks …. wherever columns of tramping
people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the
fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire.” [Image: Dresden
skyline after Allied saturation bombing.]

Ladies and gentlemen, on this program I can only give you a bare glimpse
of the inhuman horror of the holocaust of Dresden. In Dresden, no fewer
than 135,000 innocent victims died, with some estimates as high as
300,000. More died in Dresden than died in the well-known attacks on
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

More destruction befell Dresden in one day than was inflicted on the
whole of Britain during the entire war. And yet you haven’t been told.

I urge every one of you to read The Destruction of Dresden by David
Irving. I assure you, after reading Irving’s book, you will never take
seriously the Establishment’s version of what happened in that war
again.

What you ought to take seriously, though, is the fact that the same
clique that controlled the traitorous Roosevelt and Churchill
governments, whose hatred of our race and civilization and whose
alliance with Communism were the real causes of the holocaust of
Dresden, still controls our government and our media today. It is they
who are pushing for a disarmed, racially mixed America. It is they who
promote the teaching of sodomy to our young children. It is they who are
destroying our industrial infrastructure in the name of a global
economy. It is they who created the drug subculture and then also the
police state agencies which pretend to fight it.

The hour is very late for America and indeed for all of Western
civilization. But if patriots will heed our call, then there is no
reason for despair. For the enemies of our nation may have power, but
their power is based on lies. Won’t you help us cut through the chain of
lies that holds our people in mental slavery?
Every year, families should commemorate the anniversary of the holocaust
of Dresden on the eve of 13th February.

Free Speech — David Irving has generously made his Destruction of
Dresden available as a free download, in PDF format, at his Focal Point
Press website.


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If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed.”

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Actually the brits were PIRATES, interfering in lawful business of a ship in
the waters of Iran.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:18:42 -0600, “_ Prof. Jonez _” wrote:
>Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2975547&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

>> The UK pirates were pretending to be on a mission from the UN.

>> Some Iranian merchants had a ship-load of automobiles – autos
>> that The Crown decided were probably stolen. So, The Crown,
>> dispatched a pirate ship to seize the cargo.

>> Of course, the accusations were wrong. The cargo was perfectly
>> legitimate. However, the UK sailors who attacked the ship, were
>> not so legitimate.

>> So now the Iranians have seized the British ship and arrested
>> its crew. They will be tried for piracy on the High Seas.

>> If found guilty, they may qualify for the Death Penalty under
>> Iranian law.

Not only under the laws of Iran, but even under international law.

An executed pirate, no matter from whatever country, will never re-offend!!
Time to show the pirates that Iran can punish criminals, permanently!!

On 23 Mar 2007 14:48:17 -0700, “sparky” wrote:

>Iranians capture British sailors
>HMS Cornwall on patrol in the North Arabian Gulf.

>Mar 23, 2007 04:36 PM
>JIM KRANE
>Associated Press
>DUBAI, United Arab Emirates – Fifteen Royal Navy sailors and marines
>who boarded a ship suspected of smuggling cars in the Persian Gulf
>were seized by Iranian naval vessels off the Iraqi coast today,
>British and U.S. officials said.

>U.S. and British officials said a boarding party from the frigate HMS
>Cornwall was seized about 10:30 a.m. during a routine inspection of a
>merchant ship inside Iraqi territorial waters near the disputed Shatt
>al-Arab waterway.

>Iran’s Foreign Ministry insisted the Britons were operating in Iranian
>waters and would be held “for further investigation,” Iranian state
>television said.

>A U.S. navy official in Bahrain, Cmdr. Kevin Aandahl, said Iran’s
>Revolutionary Guard naval forces had broadcast a brief radio message
>saying the British party was not harmed.

>In London, the British government summoned the Iranian ambassador to
>the Foreign Office, and Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett said he
>”was left in no doubt that we want them back.”

>Iranian TV quoted an Iranian Foreign Ministry official as saying the
>top British diplomat in Tehran had been called in to receive Tehran’s
>protest of the “illegal entry” into Iranian waters.

>”This is not the first time that British military personnel during the
>occupation of Iraq have entered illegally into Iran’s territorial
>waters,” the unidentified official was quoted as saying.

>Britain’s Defence Ministry said the Royal Navy personnel were “engaged
>in routine boarding operations of merchant shipping in Iraqi
>territorial waters” and had completed a ship inspection when they were
>accosted by Iranian vessels.

>The eight Royal Navy sailors and seven Royal Marines were part of a
>task force that protects Iraqi oil terminals and maintains security in
>Iraqi waters under authority of the UN Security Council.

>The Cornwall’s commander, Commodore Nick Lambert, said the frigate
>lost communication with the boarding party, but a helicopter crew saw
>Iranian naval vessels approach.

>”I’ve got 15 sailors and marines who have been arrested by the
>Iranians and my immediate concern is their safety,” he told British
>Broadcasting Corp. television.

>Lambert said he hoped it was a “simple mistake” stemming from the long
>dispute between Iraq and Iran over demarcating their territorial
>waters just off the mouth of the Shatt al-Arab, a waterway that
>divides the two countries.

>The incident occurred as the U.N. Security Council debates expanding
>sanctions against Iran seeking to force Tehran to suspend uranium
>enrichment. The U.S. and other nations suspect Iran is trying to
>produce nuclear weapons. Iran denies that and insists it won’t halt
>the program.

>Iran’s leaders also have denied allegations by the U.S., Britain and
>others that Iranians are arming Shiite Muslim militias in Iraq.

>Hours before the seizure of the Royal Navy team, British Lt.-Col.
>Justin Maciejewski told BBC Radio 4’s “Today” program from the Iraqi
>city of Basra that Iranians provided weapons and money to militants
>who are attacking British troops in southern Iraq.

>The U.S. military has made similar charges, saying Iranians send arms
>to Iraqi extremists, including sophisticated roadside bombs.

>This week, two commanders of an Iraqi Shiite militia told The
>Associated Press in Baghdad that hundreds of Iraqi Shiites had crossed
>into Iran for training by the elite Quds force, a branch of Iran’s
>Revolutionary Guard thought to have trained Hezbollah guerrillas in
>Lebanon.

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Notice that there has been a pleasant absence of the vile frothings of the
nazi Dezi Cohen, alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

Could it be that Paris welfare finally said to this criminal from the UK –
merde, vas y!!

>From: Vishnu – destroyer of Nazi Coughlan’s support of the Shoah
>
>Newsgroups:
>alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.palestine
>Subject: Re: Dezi gets Close + Personal With Noles Who Exposed Him as Nazi
>-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:28:24 -0700
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>References: <[email protected]>
><[email protected]>
>
>
>On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, “Philippe ‘Suffer the little children to come
>onto me and give me a blowjob’ KKKoughlan ”
>after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:
>
>>https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
>
>Oh, my… KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
>Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more. The fight
>is on… and the votes are now being cast. Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
>hate the Jews more?
>
>Think KKK doesn’t hate the Jews? Think again. This is just a short list
>of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
>the “innocence” (sic) of every Nazi —
>
>His words — “The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
>Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.” See —
>http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
>Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as “inhuman.”
>
>His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution for those found
>guilty of being Jewish’.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf
>
>His words — “even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man…” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
>Insisting that Auschwitz was “more humane” than California. And one elder
>murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.
>
>His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to refer to the legal execution
>of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f
>
>His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal…” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6
>
>His words — “if it’s legal, it’s moral, Jed” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
>Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews “legally inhuman” and MORAL
>to kill six million of them.
>
>His words — “Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
>on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631
>
>His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
>Wiesenthal —
>”At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
>was a crime under international law.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
>Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
>KKK insists was the “murder by lynching” of Eichmann.
>
>In respect to the question — “Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?”
>His words — “Isn’t there room for mercy ? For the sure knowledge that this
>91-year- old man, isn’t in a position to harm anyone.”
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
>And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi… because he insist it’s been
>60 years.
>
>His words — “German society said that the extermination of the Jews
>was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
>Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
>and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of “German society.”
>He might as well have said — “Every German was a Nazi guard in an
>Eastern European extermination camp.” Since his comment means
>just the same. A large part of the German population of that time
>might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
>idea that “German society” supported the HOLOCAUST as a
>”moral, legal, ethical thing to do,” is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
>It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
>made in AADP.
>
>His words — “In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
>are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
>In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
>short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
>than 25 years. The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
>Treblinka was measured in minutes. Yet he insists that “morally and legally”
>this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
>making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
>murderer.
>
>His words — “Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
>matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
>A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
>for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles. In addition to
>him claiming the Holocaust was moral. And concluding with that
>obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
>he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
>his words — ” Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
>for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
>science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ.”
>
>Notice that he DARED to mention “human rights,” given the bloody
>past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews. The persecution for
>those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
>Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
>crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
>Jews. All part of what he argued was the “bright beacon of morality”
>in Europe during what he insists was “it’s Golden age of persecution
>of the Jews.” Yeah… Americans are in awe and
>insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
>were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems and dispatching
>them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years. Let’s all
>give a big cheer for Jesus ‘motherfucker’ Christ…the name lent to
>being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time… but
>KKKoughlan’s hero.
>
>His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today — “yet by
>milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
>and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
>A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
>express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being
>pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
>is less than 150% pro-Jewish. Essentially insulting every Jew
>living today.
>
>His words — “certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
>justify their own excesses.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
>His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
>justify their own excesses.
>
>His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
>which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is ‘just’, in
>which case, so was the extermination of the Jews. See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
>Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
>ever witnessed in AADP. Since the proposition is only true if one equates
>convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews. But looking beyond
>that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
>even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
>Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be “just,” by his definition must also find
>the Holocaust to have been “just.”
>
>His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
>Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic — “However, it’s fatuous to claim that Europe
>is ‘anti-Semitic’, based on the number of ‘anti-Semitic’ events that take
>place. If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
>anti-Semitic country on the planet.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
>Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
>and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.
>
>He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
>Bernard, who referred to Israel as “that shitty little country.” In his
>post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
>and defended that perverse comment. One of his comments in
>that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was — “Israel does not need to
>kill children, to ensure its survival. Israel does not need to target the
>innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival. Israel does
>not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
>ensure its survival. The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
>long run, than they will help it. Sharon came to power on a security
>’ticket’, and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
>ensured the security of Israel and her citizens.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
>Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
>excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
>innocent Jews. Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a “kill every
>Jew” ticket. As he also admits he is “anti-Jewish government.”
>
>He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11. His
>words — “I’d put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
>attacks.” While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent. See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d
>
>Of course he also screamed in rage that — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
>spagmerchant.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5
>
>But when it came to providing what he considered “proof” of him being
>Jewish, he stated — “I don’t believe in God … but I was ‘born Jewish.’
>See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6
>
> And how many here… even those who would call him a “friend,” have said they
>believe he is Jewish? The answer is ZERO. Even when I cajole them for an
>answer.
>While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
>Jewish. All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
>”wears the yellow star” as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
>even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
>while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
>using that handle. The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
>the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
>personal comic parody.
>
>And of course we have John Rennie’s comment regarding the personal
>conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
>His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here — “DESMOND
>UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
>JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
>GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
>NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
>HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
>
>Planet Visitor II
>http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
>
>KKKoughlan’s words — “”send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to
>give me a blowjob whenever I want one.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf
>
>Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan’s own feeling as to
>who he considers a “CHILD.” If so, let me provide KKKoughlan’s own
>words of who he feels is a “CHILD.” His words — “”the term ‘child’ isn’t
>defined by you and your NRA buddies. It’s defined in international law,
>and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday.” See —
>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928
>
>KKKoughlan… a self-admitted pedophile.

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And never forget the prominente ZYD KOLLABORACI, such as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI,
AND WIESENTHAL!!

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:25:22 +1000, “Benja’min” wrote:

>Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization
>in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning
>the Solution of the Jewish Question
>in Europe and
>the Participation of the NMO in the War
>on the Side of Germany
>(1941)

>From Lenni Brenner: The Iron Wall, London 1984, pp.195-197.

>Transcribed and marked up by Einde O’Callaghan for REDS – Die Roten.

>It is often stated in the speeches and utterances of the leading statesmen
>of National Socialist Germany that a prerequisite of the New Order in Europe
>requires the radical solution of the Jewish question through evacuation
>(“Jew-free Europe”).

>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and complete
>through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people,
>Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historic
>boundaries.

>The solving in this manner of the Jewish problem, thus bringing with it once
>and for all the liberation of the Jewish people, is the objective of the
>political activity and the years-long struggle of the Israeli freedom
>movement, the National Military Organization (Irgun Zvai Leumi) in
>Palestine.

>The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich
>government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and
>towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

>Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in
>Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national
>aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.
>Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium
>would be possible and,
>The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the
>interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in
>the Near East.
>Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the
>condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom
>movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively
>lake part in the war on Germany’s side.

>This offer by the NMO, covering activity in the military, political and
>information fields, in Palestine and, according to our determined
>preparations, outside Palestine, would be connected to the military training
>and organizing of Jewish manpower in Europe, under the leadership and
>command of the NMO. These military units would take part in the fight to
>conquer Palestine, should such a front be decided upon.

>The indirect participation of the Israeli freedom movement in the New Order
>in Europe, already in the preparatory stage, would be linked with a
>positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem in conformity with
>the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Jewish people. This would
>extraordinarily strengthen the moral basis of the New Order in the eyes of
>all humanity.

>The cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also be along the
>lines of one of the last speeches of the German Reich Chancellor, in which
>Herr Hitler emphasized that he would utilize every combination and coalition
>in order to isolate and defeat England.

>A brief general view of the formation, essence, and activity of the NMO in
>Palestine:

>The NMO developed partly out of the Jewish self-defense in Palestine and the
>Revisionist movement (New Zionist Organization), with which the NMO was
>loosely connected through the person of Mr. V. Jabotinsky until his death.

>The pro-English attitude of the Revisionist Organization in Palestine, which
>prevented the renewal of the personal union, led in the autumn of this year
>to a complete break between it and the NMO as well as to a thereupon
>following split in the Revisionist movement.

>The goal of the NMO is the establishment of the Jewish state within its
>historic borders.

>The NMO, in contrast to all Zionist trends, rejects colonizatory
>infiltration as the only means of making accessible and gradually taking
>possession of the fatherland and practices its slogan, the struggle and the
>sacrifice, as the only true means for the conquest and liberation of
>Palestine.

>On account of its militant character and its anti-English disposition the
>NMO is forced, under constant persecutions by the English administration, to
>exercise its political activity and the military training of its members in
>Palestine in secret.

>The NMO, whose terrorist activities began as early as the autumn of the year
>1936, became, after the publication of the British White Papers, especially
>prominent in the summer of 1939 through successful intensification of its
>terroristic activity and sabotage of English properly. At that lime these
>activities, as well as daily secret radio broadcasts, were noticed and
>discussed by virtually the entire world press.

>The NMO maintained independent political offices in Warsaw, Paris. London
>and New York until the beginning of the war.

>The office in Warsaw was mainly concerned with the military organization and
>training of the national Zionist youth and was closely connected with the
>Jewish masseswho, especially in Poland, sustained and enthusiastically
>supported, in every manner, the fight of the NMO in Palestine. Two
>newspapers were published in Warsaw (The Deed and Liberated Jerusalem):
>these were organs of the NMO.

>The office in Warsaw maintained close relations with the former Polish
>government and those military circles, who brought greatest sympathy and
>understanding towards the aims of the NMO. Thus, in the year 1939 selected
>groups of NMO members were sent from Palestine to Poland, where their
>military training was completed in barracks by Polish officers.

>The negotiations, for the purpose of activating and concertizing their aid,
>took place between the NMO and the Polish government in Warsaw – the
>evidence of which can easily be found in the archives of the former Polish
>government – were terminated because of the beginning of the war.

>The NMO is closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in its
>ideology and structure.

>The fighting capacity of the NMO could never be paralyzed or seriously
>weakened, neither through strong defensive measures by the English
>administration and the Arabs, nor by those of the Jewish socialists.

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:10:08 +0100, “Steve” wrote:

>Have you seen the photos of the mass slaughter of Germans that
>Eisenhower did very quietly *after* the war was over?

>If not, please look at the scanned images of the rarely seen article
>from a magazine in 1989:

>http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Eisenhower.html

On Sun, 20 August 2006 08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book “OTHER LOSSES” by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!

>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, “Schorsch” wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Schorsch wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike’s Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest…….

>>>From: [email protected] (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: “Ike”‘s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF “IKE’S DEATH CAMPS”

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in ‘the land of the free’?”

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>”Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect… Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks…One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald…The book blames Eisenhower. ‘The German is a beast,’
>>>Ike had written…But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly…It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton…Ignoring the book is not enough.”
>>>Pat Buchanan’s courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the “banality of evil”,
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the “Battle of
>>>the Bulge”, my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a “repo depo” (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from “higher up”. No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term “war criminal” was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners’ food, and that these orders came from “higher up”. But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the “offense”, and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, “Why?” he mumbled,
>>>”Target practice,” and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn’t tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of “my country, right or wrong, my country,” which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. “Yankee
>>>traders” were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the “graveyard shift”, from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn’t bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn’t
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing — both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed “mystical”. However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly ‘broke the ice’, and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German (“Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen”). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>”Eisenhower jacket” so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow ‘killing fields’.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were “camp followers”, selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn’t think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a “fancy Nazi
>>>medal”, which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him “off
>>>her back”, but I didn’t think one of our ‘death camps’ was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his “dirty work”.

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible — that is, when they weren’t chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by “displaced persons”
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the “contraband”
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more “available”, but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was “just friends”
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies’ atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government’ s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it’s difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to “talk” because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I “spoke out” recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that “the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear.” And, in any case, “the truth shall out”.

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…

Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of “Holocaust Denier”, when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn’t mention any German suffering:
https://nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources “gassed millions of
Jews”?!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

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This hotel & casino is owned by a group out of Vienna, Austria.

Have their standards of operation sunk so low, that they must resort to
SWINDLING, and having an UNSAFE hotel as well?

perhaps people in Austria may wish to comment?

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:28:44 -0700, Frank Arthur wrote:

>The new Century Casino have been flooding homes in Edmonton with flyers,
>promoting supposed deals at their restaurant.

>They are claiming buffet breakfasts on Wednesdays for only $1,99.
>In their flyer they also advertise FREE COFFEE between 9-11 a.m.

>However, they are CHARGING FOR THE COFFEES when one gets the
>buffet breakfast, which is FRAUD!!

>If you want toast with the scrambled eggs, they charge for that extra!!
>The scrambled eggs with bacon or ham or sausage is edible, but no toast,
>no waffles, no pancackes means there is no choice!!

>To really get seniors angry, one is forced to wait in a lineup from 8;45 until
>9:30 to get seated, because of no line-up supervision by hotel staff. What was
>happening was that several slimeballs in the lineup would take a whole table
>for 6. Then his buddies would show up after half an hour, and jump the line-up
>to take over the table for another half hour. 3 groups did this, with people
>in the lineup complaining.

>Many of the seniors in the line-up for an hour or more complained, but the
>hotel managers did not give a damn.

>Gamblers, go to a better casino, whether at Northlands, Yellowhead, or River
>Cree, and AVOID CENTURY CASINO (formerly Londonderry Inn) on the Fort Road.

>Maybe when enough people avoid this dump then perhaps the owners in Colorado
>and Vienna Austria will realise they need to replace the so-called managers!!

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged “REFUGEES” from israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!

>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as “REFUGEES”, to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha’Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.

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Notice that this is an honest ZYD professor from Israel, who, after much
research, is making public his findings, not some anti-semite.

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:51:00 -0700, Frank Arthur wrote:
>From: “Zionism is a cancer growing on Uncle Sam’s ass. -”
>
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>Subject: Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
>Date: 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800

>Israeli historian: “blood libel” not completely unfounded
>By Khalid Amayreh
>Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

>A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
>canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
>making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
>unfounded.

>Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
>in a new book, published recently in Italy, that “there is a factual
>basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.”

>”I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
>among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
>don’t claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
>Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
>act and justified it.”

>In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz Monday, 12
>February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
>records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
>Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

>The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
>March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
>and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
>Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
>them.

>The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
>seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
>Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
>sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

>”I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
>not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
>have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
>prayers known from the Jewish prayer book,” Toaff was quoted as
>saying.

>He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn’t use
>human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

>”Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
>Passover.

>”Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
>Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
>powers of children’s blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
>Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood.”

>Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
>religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
>even human blood.

>Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
>Jewish leaders and commentators for “vindicating anti-Semitism” and
>giving anti-Semites a “cause celebre.”

>Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
>to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

>Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
>Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
>inter alia, “self-hating Jew” and “collaborator with anti-Semites.”

>However, Toaff said he wouldn’t be silenced no matter how vociferous
>are the criticisms of his book.

>”I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
>if the world crucifies me.”

>http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml

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KATYN=MURDERS OF POLISH BY ZYDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! Like Vinnitsa!! NEVER FORGET!

On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, “Peter Wielki” wrote:

>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukranians that did the crime,
>as far as I know.

>But yeah, let’s blame it on JEWS!!! Germans did it too, right Frankie?

>”Frank Arthur” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!

>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.

>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.

>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!

>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles

>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)

>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>> the discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1, 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to
>> The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.

>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used
>> the word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned,
>> as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>> single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was
>> to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>> guardians.

>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the
>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.

>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.

>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.

>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder
>> victims.
>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and
>> for all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily,
>> and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.

>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew
>> of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>> three – two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to those lies.

>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>> anything.

>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>> the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government
>> in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>> victims of Katyn.

>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians.

>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this must have had on Kremlin thinking?

>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city, the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.

>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach

>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998

>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce

>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.

>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.

>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.

>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.

>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.

>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.

>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.

>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.

>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.

>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.

>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.

>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.

>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.

>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.

ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESE ZYD MURDERERS!!

>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.

>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.

>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?

>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.

>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.

>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.

>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.

>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZYDS isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.

>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.

>> ++++++++++++++

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>>
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>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
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Jew accused of German genocide
Margaret Neighbour
The Scotsman
Fri 24 Oct 2003
POLAND is seeking the extradition from Israel of an elderly Polish-born Jew on
charges of genocide for the deaths of German prisoners in a communist camp he
commanded after the Second World War.

The suspect, Solomon Morel, 83, is accused of causing the deaths of more than
1,500 inmates at the end of the war.

Morel, who was held in Auschwitz and had more than 30 members of his family
wiped out by Nazis and collaborators, was made the commander of the
Swietochlowice camp in November 1945.

He is accused of keeping German prisoners and Nazi collaborators in barbaric
conditions, subjecting them to torture, beatings and starvation.

An attempt to extradite him five years ago on charges of torture failed, after
Israel ruled that the statute of limitations on the charges had run out.

Polish special prosecutors have now upgraded the charges to genocide, for
which there is no statute of limitation.

Andrzej Arseniuk, a spokesman for prosecutors at the Institute of National
Remembrance, which investigates Second World War and communist-era crimes,
said that the new charges are based on testimony from former prisoners at the
defunct camp, near the southern city of Katowice.

“The testimony from former inmates living now in Germany significantly
enriched the evidence. It documented Morel’s torture of at least 13 inmates
known by name,” said Leon Kieres, the head of the institute. “Now the charges
say his intention was to exterminate for national and political reasons.”

Mr Kieres said the extradition request, which will be made by a regional court
in Katowice in a few weeks, will be Poland’s final attempt to bring Morel to
justice.

The new charges accuse Morel of seeking to exterminate German prisoners by
starving them to death,

depriving them of basic medical care and carrying out and sanctioning torture
by his subordinates – including imprisoning prisoners in small cells filled
with water, trampling them or making them stand for long hours, singing Nazi
songs.

Morel was born in 1919 in the Polish village of Garbow. He was 20 when Germany
invaded Poland and the Nazis began to round up Polish Jews. About 30 members
of his family, including his mother and father, both brothers, aunts, uncles
and cousins, died in the Holocaust.

In Christmas 1942, Nazi collaborators arrived at the family home while Morel
and one of his brothers were out. His mother was forced to watch as her
husband and son were shot dead before she was killed.

Morel witnessed the murders with his other brother, Yitzhak, from the top of a
haystack in a field, before they fled and took refuge with a local family.
Within a few months, the two brothers had joined the Polish Jewish partisans.

Morel’s brother was later ambushed and shot by Nazi collaborators while
driving a sleigh for the partisans. Morel was eventually imprisoned in the
Auschwitz death camp. He moved to Israel in 1994, to flee Polish authorities.

Mr Kieres said Morel is believed responsible for at least 1,538 deaths at the
camp.

Speaking after Israel’s rejection of the first extradition request five years
ago, Dorota Boriczek recalled the almost commonplace brutality in the camp.

“I knew Morel in the camp. He was a very brutal man,” she said. “He was young
then. He would come in at night. We could hear the cries of the men then. They
would beat them and throw the bodies out of the window.

“I was taken there when I was 14, with my mother. I still don’t know why we
were there, and I still want to know. They told us when we arrived: ‘You are
here, and you are here to die, although nobody will shoot you, because
ammunition is too expensive’.”

Mrs Boriczek said conditions at the camp were barbaric. “There was nothing to
eat, a hunger that you cannot imagine. We were lucky to have a piece of bread
once a day, nothing else, and water,” she said.

“Both my mother and I had typhus. We were separated and I didn’t know she was
alive. I had a high fever and when I opened my eyes, I was sleeping next to a
lady from Switzerland. I slept with her under one blanket. I was happy that
she was dead, because that meant I could have her blanket.”

The investigation against Morel is the only one in Poland against a Jew
accused of retaliating against the Germans.

Polish historians generally agree that the communist government imprisoned
100,000 Germans, mostly civilians, who were deemed threats to the state. At
least 15,000 died due to ill-treatment and the rest were freed by 1950.

Robert Countess comments:

28 October 2003

Re: the Polish effort to extradite the war criminal and murderer SOLOMON
MOREL from Israel for his crimes against innocent German martyrs

1) The Polish government is to be congratulated for its courage to confront
one of the MOST criminal States of the modern era–ISRAEL, whose protection
for ONLY Jewish criminals fleeing the justice systems of Gentile nation has
been well documented. CONGRATULATION, POLAND!!!

2) Poland thus may serve as an example of justice for crimes of “Genocide”
[signed by most UN member nations], while the USA, my nation, seeks ONLY to
deport Poles and Ukrainians and Germans and Latvians et alia who were merely
camp guards at SS camps in the East and who did not even kill a fly–I must
correct myself: they killed ONLY flies, insofar as the evidence goes. JOHN
DEMANJUK being the best example of a camp guard persecuted for over twenty
years by Jews.

3) It was my friend JOHN SACK who blew the cover on SOLOMON MOREL with his
story, then his book EYE FOR AN EYE, some years ago, only to be smeared by
his fellow Jews–who showed themselves NOT to be “fellows” at all but
despicable scum. John is too high level a homo sapiens to be lowered to
the likes of ABE FOXMAN and EDGAR BRONFMAN and DEBBIE LIPSTADT and ELIE
WIESEL and MARVIN HIER and their ilk.

4) I only hope I live long enough to see the murderer SOLOMON MOREL tried,
convicted, and gassed in “a bunker” just beyond the drainage ditch NW from
the Birkenau ruins near the present day farmers’ fields and houses.

In my SUBJECT line above, I used ALL the key terms that Jews LOVE to trot
out when they are “oi-veying” against Gentile persecution of Jews: war
criminals, murderers, martyrs [but ONLY for Jews!], innocent [only for
Jews!], and the like. TIME HAS COME FOR POLES AND GERMANS TO THROW OFF THE
COVERS AND PULL OUT THE STOPS AND F I N A L L Y CALL JEWISH CRIMINALS AND
THEIR CRIMES WHAT JEWS HAVE GOTTEN RICH OFF CALLING GENTILES FOR DOING OR
HAVING DONE OR ALLEGEDLY HAVING DONE.

It is time for all good and decent people to come to the aid of the Poles
since the George Soros and other criminal Jews of billionaire mega-wealth
status will NOW seek to destroy the Polish economy and coerce Poland to
withdraw its extradition effort. WATCH OUT WARSAWA!!!

Sincerely,

Robert H. Countess, Ph.D.
Ancient Greek
email: [email protected]
28755 Sagewood Circle
Toney, AL 35773 USA
Phone: (256) 232-4940 Cell: (256) 653-7598
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Notice that there has been a pleasant absence of the vile frothings of the
nazi Dezi Cohen, alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

Could it be that Paris welfare finally said to this criminal from the UK –
merde, vas y!!

>>From: Vishnu – destroyer of Nazi Coughlan’s support of the Shoah
>>
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>>Subject: Re: Dezi gets Close + Personal With Noles Who Exposed Him as Nazi
>>-IS DEZI NOW DECEASED?
>>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:28:24 -0700
>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>References: <[email protected]>
>><[email protected]>

>>On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, “Philippe ‘Suffer the little children to come
>>onto me and give me a blowjob’ KKKoughlan ”
>>after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:

>>>https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
>>Oh, my… KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
>>Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more. The fight
>>is on… and the votes are now being cast. Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
>>hate the Jews more?

>>Think KKK doesn’t hate the Jews? Think again. This is just a short list
>>of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
>>the “innocence” (sic) of every Nazi —

>>His words — “The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
>>Jews ‘inhuman’, were acting illegally. They were not.” See —
>>http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
>>Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as “inhuman.”

>>His words — “The Holocaust was ‘a just execution for those found
>>guilty of being Jewish’.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf
>>
>>His words — “even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man…” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
>>Insisting that Auschwitz was “more humane” than California. And one elder
>>murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.
>>
>>His words — “‘The Holocaust’ is a term used to refer to the legal execution
>>of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f
>>
>>His words — “the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal…” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6
>>
>>His words — “if it’s legal, it’s moral, Jed” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
>>Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews “legally inhuman” and MORAL
>>to kill six million of them.
>>
>>His words — “Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
>>on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631
>>
>>His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
>>Wiesenthal —
>>”At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
>>was a crime under international law.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
>>Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
>>KKK insists was the “murder by lynching” of Eichmann.
>>
>>In respect to the question — “Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?”
>>His words — “Isn’t there room for mercy ? For the sure knowledge that this
>>91-year- old man, isn’t in a position to harm anyone.”
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
>>And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi… because he insist it’s been
>>60 years.
>>
>>His words — “German society said that the extermination of the Jews
>>was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do …” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
>>Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
>>and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of “German society.”
>>He might as well have said — “Every German was a Nazi guard in an
>>Eastern European extermination camp.” Since his comment means
>>just the same. A large part of the German population of that time
>>might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
>>idea that “German society” supported the HOLOCAUST as a
>>”moral, legal, ethical thing to do,” is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
>>It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
>>made in AADP.
>>
>>His words — “In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
>>are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
>>In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
>>short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
>>than 25 years. The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
>>Treblinka was measured in minutes. Yet he insists that “morally and legally”
>>this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
>>making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
>>murderer.
>>
>>His words — “Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
>>matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
>>A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
>>for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles. In addition to
>>him claiming the Holocaust was moral. And concluding with that
>>obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
>>he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
>>his words — ” Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
>>for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
>>science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ.”
>>
>>Notice that he DARED to mention “human rights,” given the bloody
>>past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews. The persecution for
>>those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
>>Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
>>crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
>>Jews. All part of what he argued was the “bright beacon of morality”
>>in Europe during what he insists was “it’s Golden age of persecution
>>of the Jews.” Yeah… Americans are in awe and
>>insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
>>were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems and dispatching
>>them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years. Let’s all
>>give a big cheer for Jesus ‘motherfucker’ Christ…the name lent to
>>being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time… but
>>KKKoughlan’s hero.
>>
>>His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today — “yet by
>>milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
>>and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
>>A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
>>express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being
>>pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
>>is less than 150% pro-Jewish. Essentially insulting every Jew
>>living today.
>>
>>His words — “certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
>>justify their own excesses.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
>>His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
>>justify their own excesses.
>>
>>His words — “Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
>>which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is ‘just’, in
>>which case, so was the extermination of the Jews. See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
>>Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
>>ever witnessed in AADP. Since the proposition is only true if one equates
>>convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews. But looking beyond
>>that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
>>even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
>>Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be “just,” by his definition must also find
>>the Holocaust to have been “just.”
>>
>>His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
>>Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic — “However, it’s fatuous to claim that Europe
>>is ‘anti-Semitic’, based on the number of ‘anti-Semitic’ events that take
>>place. If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
>>anti-Semitic country on the planet.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
>>Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
>>and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.
>>
>>He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
>>Bernard, who referred to Israel as “that shitty little country.” In his
>>post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
>>and defended that perverse comment. One of his comments in
>>that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was — “Israel does not need to
>>kill children, to ensure its survival. Israel does not need to target the
>>innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival. Israel does
>>not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
>>ensure its survival. The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
>>long run, than they will help it. Sharon came to power on a security
>>’ticket’, and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
>>ensured the security of Israel and her citizens.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
>>Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
>>excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
>>innocent Jews. Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a “kill every
>>Jew” ticket. As he also admits he is “anti-Jewish government.”
>>
>>He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11. His
>>words — “I’d put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
>>attacks.” While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent. See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d
>>
>>Of course he also screamed in rage that — “No one is ‘BORN’ (sic) a Jew, you
>>spagmerchant.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5
>>
>>But when it came to providing what he considered “proof” of him being
>>Jewish, he stated — “I don’t believe in God … but I was ‘born Jewish.’
>>See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6
>>
>> And how many here… even those who would call him a “friend,” have said they
>>believe he is Jewish? The answer is ZERO. Even when I cajole them for an
>>answer.
>>While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
>>Jewish. All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
>>”wears the yellow star” as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
>>even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
>>while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
>>using that handle. The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
>>the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
>>personal comic parody.
>>
>>And of course we have John Rennie’s comment regarding the personal
>>conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
>>His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here — “DESMOND
>>UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
>>JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
>>GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
>>NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
>>HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
>>
>>Planet Visitor II
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html
>>
>>KKKoughlan’s words — “”send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to
>>give me a blowjob whenever I want one.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf
>>
>>Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan’s own feeling as to
>>who he considers a “CHILD.” If so, let me provide KKKoughlan’s own
>>words of who he feels is a “CHILD.” His words — “”the term ‘child’ isn’t
>>defined by you and your NRA buddies. It’s defined in international law,
>>and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday.” See —
>>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928
>>
>>KKKoughlan… a self-admitted pedophile.

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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS – such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, “amigo cabal” wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews,
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did
>hold – including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society,
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan
>Mark Rigg in his book “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military” (University
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers,
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations
>of being “true Germans”, many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis’ racial
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight’s Cross
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as an Aryan, even
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch’s right, General Wolfram von
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort;
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens’s first
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the
>Knight’s Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right:
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>”KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS”

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg’s book:
>
>”The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of
>the Nazi years.” – John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second
>World War, (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be
>”shocked” by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase “knowing the Nazi regime for what it was” above by Keegan, is
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be
>granted full Aryan status – especially given that there were only
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.

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On 9 Sep 2006 03:12:09 -0700, in de.soc.politik.misc “news”
wrote:

An incredible, shocking and horrific report is coming out of New York
City concerning male baby fellatio, genital mutilation and the
infection with “herpes” of three infants by a Jewish Rabbi. City of New
York health officials are investigating the death of a baby boy who was
one of three infants infected with Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 that
exists predominantly in the mouths of homosexuals.

The practice called “metzitzah b’peh” by Jews is routinely practiced
on Jewish baby boys and may explain their sexual dysfunctions later in
adult life. Many adult male Jews are “mother fixated” and exhibit a
preponderance of homosexual and feminine characteristics. They are
being “shocked” out of their masculinity as infants by the ancient and
bizarre practices of Jewish Rabbis. It is not yet known what percentage
of Jewish males go through the horror.

The case was made public after the New York Health Department filed a
complaint in the Manhattan Supreme Court against the Rabbi Yitzhok
Fischer. The rabbi had performed “metzitzah b’peh” on twin baby boys
last October. A few days later one died of herpes and the other tested
positive for the virus. The health department later found a third baby
with the Herpes Simplex Virus Type 1 that the rabbi had “sucked his
penis”.

This incredible but true report is now casting doubts on the “medical”
practice of circumcision which is unnecessary, Jewish inspired, and
amounts to nothing less than “male genital mutilation.” There are now a
vast number of medical studies that prove that males grow up healthier
and perform better sexually when their penises are left intact. The
“circumcising” of Gentile baby boys is essentially “Judaizing” them for
life.

http://www.aztlan.net/metzitzah_b_peh.htm

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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada “serwad”
wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of Jews in Soviet-era
repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his
writing career – the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together – a reference to the
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the
Russian Jewish population – contains three chapters discussing the Jewish
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet
Russia.

But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book,
and questioned Solzhenitsyn’s motives in writing it, accusing him of factual
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period
“consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians” as being behind the
genocide. But he states that all the nation’s ethnic groups must share the
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: “If I would care to
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The
Jews whose experience I saw – their life was softer than that of others.”

Yet he added: “But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds
were Jews, is certainly incorrect.”

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and
revolutionary genocides – and that its Jewish population should be as
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power
that also persecuted them.

“My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the
psychology of the Jews – their spiritual component,” he said. “I have never
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about
us.”

But Solzhenitsyn’s book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish
leader said it was “not of any merit”.

“This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes,” said Yevgeny
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. “Richard Wagner did
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

“This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit.”

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn’s biographers, said that he did not think
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. “I would not doubt his sincerity. He
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright,
decent, anti-Stalinist people.”

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book,
Solzhenitsyn was “absolutely right”.

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including
the cheka.

“Trotsky’s idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to]
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

“It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn’s book seems much more measured
than that.”

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn’s pursuit of this
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB),
said: “The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

“If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now.”

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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.

>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case, one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!

>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi wrote:

>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.

>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews >>wrote:

>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG–
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.”
>>>I’ve seen photos of naked children, … and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society).”?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>> Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>> alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: [email protected] (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland. The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem. However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education. These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book. In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next “relocation”!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA. Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > ————-
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia – [email protected]
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.

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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.

>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.

>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.

>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.

>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini’s
Italy.
>>>Brenner’s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha’avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
‘nationality’
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No! And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.

>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,’assimilation’ of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ‘It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own’
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives ‘both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli’ in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.

# 5 The Kastner Case
ZHID KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS – 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some “controversy” about negotiations he undertook
for “the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment,” but that he was “fully rehabilitated” by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, “I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.”

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price…was not too high for me.

“…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

“Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

“As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal…
‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment.”

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
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