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Subject: Re: FRAUD in City Tax Department – Time to FIRE/Prosecute Staff Responsible!! MORE!! No Wonder Businesses LEAVE! Repost
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No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer’s house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR,
FOR 8 YEARS!!
One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?
>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing, March 27.
>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed for his property at 13723 –
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.
>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?
It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year – for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!
>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!
>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!
>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!
>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?
>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!
>> From: [email protected] the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700
>> Why do you call our beuatiful city “deadmonton”, ?
>> if you don’t like it here why are you doing here? why don’t you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you’re
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>
>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!
>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do – FILE AN APPEAL!!
>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!
>>> Checking the website for this year’s assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!
>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!
>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?
>>> From: [email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700
>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.
>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!
>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.
>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?
>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!
>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?
>>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!
>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!
>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.
>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.
>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!
>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did…..
>>>>>> starwars
>>>>>> news:
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!
>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 – still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?
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From: BenyaminJKramer
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Subject: Re: $HALF MILLION UNDERASSESSED by Edmonton Tax Dept. Heads to Roll!! – MORE – Involving WEM? Repost
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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED,
compared to all the financing registered on the property?
Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?
Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?
It seems that ALTUS Group out of Toronto is bragging on their website that
thay have done 2 jobs for WEM.
In the first in 1981, and 1984, they did appraisals HIGH, to arrange
financing.
Then in 1992 they did another appraisal LOW for a reducing of city tax
assessment.
In other words TWO SETS OF PHONY FIGURES!!
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator
wrote:
Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006
>Can’t get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.
>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 – 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!
>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!
>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous “snitch line” to save the
>City many millions.
>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?
>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!
>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!
>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS
>wrote:
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: “Brian Boulanger”
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f…@bouncemail.ca – Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, “Brian Boulanger” wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands….
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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Subject: Canadian Tax Deadbeats Owe $18 Billion Dollars – AG to Investigate CRA – Go After Nizkor/Bnai Brith!!
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>On 24 Apr 2006 20:44:52 -0700, “Alan Baggett +”
>
>>Man that’s a lot of money.
Glad to see that the Auditor-General for Canada is reporting in her
report , about the fact that CRA is not aggressively
prosecuting TAX FRAUDS!!
Guess she is referring to the McVay/Bnai Brith TAX FRAUD!!
Detailed below.
Just like a previous $60 MILLION FRAUD INVOLVING A MONTREAL ZYD SECT!!
>On 13 Oct 2004 23:25:00 -0000, Ken McVaySOB
>wrote:
>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now finally dying as a
>>diseased AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest…….
Subject: I CHEAT JEWS,TAX DEPT.- MCVAY!!
In a new development, victims of the false NIZKOR
charitable donation tax receipts may now contact a
senior official of CCRA (Canadian IRS).
Call Mr.Philippe Robert
Special Investigations – Charities – CCRA
Phone : 1-800-267-2384, or 1-613-946-2423
>>The equivalent with IRS in the USA will be posted soon as well.
>
>>Looks like McVay/NIZKOR, as well as related crooks
>>will soon be joining their buddies in the slammer.
>
>
>>From: “Waldo”
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,can.taxes,can.general
>>Subject: Re: Nizkor, B’nai Brith and Tax Impropriety?
>>Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:47:21 -0700
>>Jay Winkler
>>> On Sat, 19 May 2001 22:54:44 -0700, “Waldo”
>>> wrote:
>>Waldo wrote:
>
>>> >On May 15, 2001, an article entitled “$60 MILLION JEW FRAUD!!!”
>>> >was posted to alt.revisionism. Within the article was a news
>>> >story that reportedly ran in Montreal Gazette, on Thursday 21 >
>>>September 2000. The headline read:
>
>>> >”Huge tax scam exposed
>>> >Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions”
>
>>Jay Winkler replied:
>
>>> The preceeding posts was, in fact, made by the RACIST FRUITCAKE of
>>> Edmonton, Alberta known as William Grosvenor/Gruber.
>
>>Waldo responds:
>
>>If you’re referring to *my* post (Nizkor, B’nai Brith and Tax
>>Impropriety?) you’re wrong, Jay. I (Waldo) authored the post.
>
>>If however, you’re referring to the article *referenced* in my
>>post, ($60 MILLION JEW FRAUD!!!) you *may* be correct in assuming
>>that it was authored by this Grosvenor character.
>
>>I wouldn’t know.
>
>>But it makes little difference. The portion of the post I
>>referred to was an actual news story published in the
>>Montreal Gazette, on Thursday 21 September 2000.
>
>>This is confirmed by an article published in USA Jewish.
>>(hardly an anti-Semitic publication)
>
>>http://www.usajewish.com/scripts/usaj/paper/Article.asp?ArticleID=932
>
>>Clearly you aren’t comfortable with the idea of this or any
>>story that portrays Jews in a less than flattering light
>>being brought to the readers’ attention, and this is why you
>>chose to respond with a lengthy diatribe aimed at smearing the
>>credibility of Gruber/ Grosvenor, who you assumed to be the author.
>
>>I’m sure you’re not too thrilled at the prospect of your chums
>>at and Nizkor and League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>being shunned by donors and scrutinized by Canadian tax
>>authorities either.
>
>>Unfortunately Jay, your attempt at diversion via your smear
>>campaign against Gruber/ Grosvenor does not change the facts:
>
>>1) Construit Toujours, a Hasidic Jewish organization, did
>>indeed attempt to defraud the Canadian government by selling
>>$60 million dollars in fraudulent tax receipts to Jewish
>>individuals and businesses who donated to the organization.
>
>>2) The pro-Jewish Nizkor Project, which Ken McVay has
>>repeatedly acknowledged is *not* registered as a non-profit
>>organization, is offering Canadian tax receipts to potential
>>donors, and said tax receipts are in fact being issued on
>>Nizkor’s behalf by the pro-Jewish League for Human Rights
>>of B’nai Brith Canada, which *is* registered as a non-profit
>>organization.
>
>>https://nizkor.org/league-donation.html
>
>>This funneling of monies to a for-profit enterprise via a
>>”not-for-profit” organization wreaks of impropriety, and
>>raises suspicions of graft, money-laundering, tax fraud,
>>etc. for all parties involved.
>
>>If Canadian tax authorities *do* find that Nizkor and
>>League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada committed
>>fraud by issuing tax receipts in return for monies donated
>>to Nizkor, they will very likely go after the *donors* to
>>collect taxes, penalties and interest on any monies they
>>may have contributed.
>
>>This is very sad, as many people who innocently believed
>>they were contributing to a noble, non-profit organization
>>would wind up getting hurt.
>
>>Ken McVay has yet to respond to these issues, but he is
>>a very busy man.
>
>>Perhaps he is currently toiling over a paper shredder,
>>or rearranging and deleting data on computer hard drives?
>
>>Waldo
>
>
>>Observer at Large
>
>>IN FACT, KEN MCVAY IS RUNNING A *ONE MAN BUSINESS* with
>>himself now as the sole beneficiary!!
>
>>All other staff, both McCarthy and Cecelia had resigned
>>in disgust. They have in fact made public some of the
>>evidence regarding financial irregularities involving McVay.
>
>>What about the $50,000 taken from San Antonio,Texas by McVay?
>
>>The text of the message below, posted recently
>>sheds more light on the McVay/NIZKOR FRAUD on CCRA & IRS!!
>
>>From: Kevin Swan
>>Newsgroups: ott.general,can.legal
>>Subject: Re: NIZKOR/MCVAY SWINDLE CCRA – ALSO JEWS!!!
>>Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:02:33 -0400
>
>>At the end of this unbelievably long pair of posts,
>>you STILL didn’t address his one, incredibly drawn out point:
>>is Nizkor a registered Canadian charity or not?
>
>>Anonymous made one, good point:
>>Jay Winkler wrote:
>>> Anonymous wrote:
>
>>> > Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>> > [#0235903-43-13]
>
>>> >Notice what is said above?
>
>>Now, I don’t know why Anonymous dropped the ball here
>>and didn’t follow up on it, but he later claims that
>>Ken refuses to answer to answer the question:
>
>>> 1) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>>It appears that the question is already answered in the
>>text Anonymous copied and posted: #0235903-43-13.
>
>>However, when I researched this number (and several variations
>>with/without the hypens and ‘#’ symbol) at CCRA’s website, there
>>were no matches. So I downloaded the entire list of all 78,000
>>registered charities and searched for Nizkor, unsuccessfully.
>>Search for yourself at
>>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/tax/charities/list/chtysr-e.html
>
>>So Ken, could you please tell us, is Nizkor a registered Canadian
>>charity or not? Yes or no? That’s really all Anonymous’ post
>>was asserting, and you made a HUGE post attacking some guy whom
>>you allege is behind the “Anonymous” facade, yet you didn’t even
>>deny his lone point: that Nizkor is a not a registered charity,
>>and is making fraudulent claims about issuing tax receipts.
>
>>And also, Ken, your FAQ makes numerous footnotes, and claims
>>to reference them at the bottom, but I could find no such list of
>>references. You might want to add them before posting it again.
>
>>Kevin.
>
>
>>From: “Waldo”
>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish,misc.taxes,can.taxes,
>>can.general
>>Subject: Nizkor, B’nai Brith and Tax Impropriety?
>>Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:54:44 -0700
>
>>On May 15, 2001, an article entitled “$60 MILLION JEW FRAUD!!!”
>>was posted to alt.revisionism. Within the article was a news
>>story that reportedly ran in Montreal Gazette, on Thursday
>>21 September 2000. The headline read:
>
>>”Huge tax scam exposed
>>Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions”
>
>>The story gave details of how a Hasidic Jewish organization
>>known as Construit Toujours had defrauded the Canadian
>>government by selling $60 million dollars in fraudulent
>>tax receipts to Jewish individuals and
>>businesses who donated to the organization.
>
>>In an apparent quid pro quo, the non-profit Construit
>>Toujours would solicit donations from members of the
>>Jewish community, and in turn issue the donors
>>Canadian tax receipts for five times the actual
>>amount contributed.
>
>>In this win/ win scenario, Construit Toujours benefited
>>from the receipt of the actual donation, and the donor
>>would benefit by receiving tax deductions that, according
>>to the article, were worth more than 2.5 times the amount
>>actually donated.
>
>>Everyone benefited – except of course, all other Canadian
>>taxpayers, who were forced to make up for the tens of
>>millions of dollars worth of tax deficit caused by this fraud.
>
>>This brings to mind the situation currently faced by Nizkor,
>>or “The Nizkor Project”, a Toronto area based website run
>>by Ken McVay.
>
>>Nizkor is a pro-Jewish organization which, according to
>>their website is “Dedicated to the millions of Holocaust
>>victims who suffered and died at the
>>hands of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime”.
>
>>https://nizkor.org
>
>>The thrust of Nizkor’s mission appears to be keeping the
>>Holocaust at the forefront of the public mind, and battling
>>so-called “Holocaust Deniers”: Revisionist historians, or
>>anyone else who would dare publicly question the
>>generally accepted “facts” of the German holocaust
>>against European Jewry in the 1930’s and 40’s.
>
>>While the defense of the Holocaust might appear to be a
>>noble cause, there are serious questions with regard to
>>the source of Nizkor’s funding: Ken McVay has stated
>>publicly on numerous occasions that Nizkor is *not* a
>>non-profit organization, yet the organization offers a
>>Canadian tax receipt to any donor who contributes ten
>>dollars or more to the Project.
>
>>From the Nizkor website:
>
>>”Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13]”
>
>>https://nizkor.org/league-donation.html
>
>>How does an organization which admits to being a for-profit
>>enterprise issue Canadian tax receipts?
>
>>It seem that Nizkor has developed a “cooperative affiliation”
>>with the pro-Jewish “League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith
>>Canada”, which is described by Nizkor as a “national volunteer
>>organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism, racism and
>>bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians”.
>
>>http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
>
>>The League for Human Rights, it appears,*is* listed as a
>>non-profit organization, and is accepting contributions,
>>and issuing Canadian tax receipts on the behalf of Nizkor,
>>a for-profit organization.
>
>>This raises some very serious questions:
>
>>What exactly is the nature of the “affiliation” between
>>Nizkor and the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada?
>
>>How are the monies received by the League for Human Rights
>>of B’nai Brith Canada on Nizkor’s behalf distributed and
>>accounted for?
>
>>Is there a quid pro quo?
>
>>Does the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>retain a portion of the funds it collects on Nizkor’s behalf?
>
>>Do Ken McVay and Nizkor pay taxes on monies funneled through
>>the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada, and for
>>which Canadian tax receipts were issued to donors?
>
>>Because Canadian tax receipts are offered for monies donated
>>to Nizkor, donors may be convinced that they are contributing
>>to a non-profit organization, while Ken McVay has denied
>>Nizkor’s non-profit status on numerous occasions.
>
>>Does this practice not give the appearance of FRAUD?
>
>>On what grounds can Nizkor, a for-profit organization, justify
>>funding its operations and paying its staff at the expense of
>>the Canadian taxpayer?
>
>>What sets Nizkor apart from any other for-profit enterprises
>>who might enjoy the benefits of receiving funds that are
>>funneled through a non-profit organization?
>
>>For example, would it not be beneficial to the proprietors
>>and clients of a Law or Consulting firm to establish an
>>”affiliation” with a non-profit organization through which
>>all monies could be funneled, and tax receipts issued?
>
>>Isn’t this what the authorities call MONEY LAUNDERING?
>
>>The non-profit status of organizations are unfortunately
>>abused on a regular basis.
>
>>In the Construit Toujours case, the Jewish organization
>>was stripped of its right to issue tax receipts, and fined
>>$400,000, while the “donors” to the organization were to
>>face criminal charges, and would be forced to repay the
>>taxes they evaded in the fraudulent scheme.
>
>>Are Ken McVay/ Nizkor, and the League for Human Rights of
>>B’nai Brith Canada guilty of similar fraud or impropriety?
>
>>It is painfully obvious that funds earmarked for Ken McVay’s
>>for-profit Nizkor are being funneled through the League for
>>Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada, and that Canadian
>>non-profit tax receipts are being issued for funds
>>that are intended to benefit a for-profit enterprise.
>
>>Both Ken McVay/ Nizkor and the League for Human Rights of
>>B’nai Brith Canada owe the taxpayers of Canada a complete
>>and detailed explanation of their handling of the funds
>>earmarked for Nizkor. Furthermore, the Canadian Federal
>>Revenue Agency should conduct a thorough investigation
>>of both organizations.
>
>>Waldo
>
>>Observer at Large
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>
>
>HENRY FORD (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921): Jews have
>always controlled the business. . . The motion picture influence of
>the United States and Canada . . . is exclusively under the control,
>moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind.
>
>At one time, anti-Semites were considered to be people who did not
>like Jews.
>Now, anti-Semites are people whom the Jews don’t like. Jews use the
>term as a weapon to smear people who for one reason or another they
>don’t like. They use it to keep politicians in line who might
>otherwise stray from the Jewish agenda and they use it to label
>revisionists as ‘holocaust deniers’ I have been “branded by the Jews”
>and am proud to be in the esteemed company of the
>following:
>
>T.S. Eliot; Norman Finkelstein; Father Coughlin;
>John Wayne; Joseph P. Kennedy; Charles Lindburgh;
>George Lincoln Rockwell; Marlon Brando; Robert Mitchum;
>Richard Nixon; Henry Ford Sr.; Walt Disney; David Irving;
>H.L. Mencken; Kurt Waldheim; Napoleon; Bismarck; Claudis;
>Voltaire; George Ball; Israel Shahak; Joe Sobran; Gerald L.K. Smith;
>Karl Marx; William Dudley Pelley; Cicero; Heinriche Heine;
>Oswald Mosley; Rowland Evans; Robert Novak; Anthony Lewis; Charles
>Dickens;
>Patrick Buchanan; Benjamin Friedman; Martin Luther; Mahomet;
>Bruno Bauer; Elizabeth Dilling; Senator Burton Wheeler
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by:
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>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin
>Henry
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael’s detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: “George”
>and [email protected].
>
>Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>
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To see a video about the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo
Thanks for posting this nice little introduction to the KosherNostra,
Tommy.
The Kosher industry is a fungus that has penetrated into every level of
US foods production, to the point that, even if you dig around ’til
you find a brand that *doesn’t* bear the mark of the Kosher Beast,
most of the ingredients were still likely certified at some level, so
the Kashrus Khazars are still probably getting a cut.
The film indicates that a portion of the monies extracted from the
sleeping Gentiles in the Kosher racket goes to “support Israel”
(read OPPRESS PALESTINIANS), and this is almost undoubtedly the case.
The OU (Orthodox Union) is the Big Nose in the US Kash-R-Us market, and
they kick massive amounts of cash to support Zionist “causes” in
the Jewish State.
If the Khazars want to eat Kosher from a can, that’s fine by me. But
let them pay for their own fetishes – pass around the plat at the ol’
synagogue. But it’d better be a damn BIG plate, as the film indicated
that they’d need to raise about 6 billion a year to replace the
monies that the Goyim currently unwittingly subsidize them.
One final note: As the film mentioned, some companies are now beginning
to balk – disbelieving the lies told them by the Kosher Racketeers, and
dumping certification. Others are trying to get the best of both
worlds – for instance, right now I’m eating Planters Dry Roasted
Peanuts. On the package is a simple letter “K”. It’s not a
enclosed in a circle or a triangle, not enmeshed ins some fancy
pattern, just a simple “K” located approximately where an
“official” Kosher Symbol – owned by the racketeers- would be
placed.
This means that the company is self-regulating, and is NOT playing the
Kosher Racketeers game – OR paying them. 0:-(>
This is the company’s way of telling the Kash-R-US Rabbis to take a
flying leap – as the Jews can’t copyright the letter “K”, (and
this drives these Food Nazis mad). Of course, Kosher Keeping Jew would
never buy the product because they know better – but the “Kosher is
Better” Gentile consumer – those who have been duped into believing
that the Kosher seal somehow translates to mean a “better” product
(it doesn’t – EVER) will never know the difference, and will buy it
anyway.
The shitty part for the Rabbinical Racketeers is that they CAN’T try
to educate the Gentile public on this matter – if they do, the jig’ll
be up, and they’ll soon be paying for their own picnic. 0:-(>
Will Planters (or Tabasco, etc) miss the Kosher Jewish market? Hell no!
Jews make up only about 2% of the US population, and only about 10% of
those are serious about keeping Kosher on a daily basis. To paraphrase
the ADL’s article: The profit that companies make by selling mainline
products to Kosher Keeping Jews is SO low that “we can’t even
calculate it”.
**
Waldo
Observer at Large
Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!
When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the
KOSHER TAX, who is more believable, them or liars such as you?
Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
$30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!
On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:43:26 -0400, “zr”
>You’ve got so much crap you should bottle it.
>Heinz & Libby both still have “cor” on their products. Just look on the back
>of a bottle of Ketchup dimwit!
>Here is also another fact for you “herr grubber” the Heiress to the Heinz
>fortune is a Jewess married to a Jew John F Kerry. You know the one, he ran
>for President of the USA.
>Never mind Das Boat you get Das Boot imbecile.
>
>”Joe Bruno”
>news:[email protected]…
>> Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!
>> When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the
>> KOSHER TAX, who is more beleivable, them or liars such as you?
>> Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
>> $30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!
>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:53:33 -0500, “zr”
>>
>>>Pure Bullshit!
>>>Next you’ll be telling everyone Hallal foods are a rip off. Then Cereal,
>>>and
>>>baby food.
>>>How about dog food.
>>>Isn’t that what you white trash racists eat.
>>
>>>”Jules Streiker”
>>>news:[email protected]…
>>>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>>>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>>>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>>>>
>>>> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>>>> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>>>> part-time job!!
>>>>
>>>> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>>>> extortion tax!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks….
>>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>>>> qualified to do…
>>>>
>>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>>>>
>>>>>From: [email protected]
>>>>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>>>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>>>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>>>>”veranda”
>>>>>news:
>>>>>> > > veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since
>>>>>> > > it
>>>>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>>>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>>>>>> > > The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>>>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> news:[email protected]…
>>>>>> > What duplication? It is a symbol on the container and the cost
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > not change in any way. This “paranoia” is silly.
>>>>
>>>>>veranda : what ‘paranoia’ ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>>>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>>>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>>>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>>>>you knew that !
>>>>>Kosher is Israel’s food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>>>>we got our own ! 🙂
>>>>
>>>>>Well, to set the record straight. The Rabbinate council that approves
>>>>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>>>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>>>>doesn’t really care. It is not an item by item thing. With the
>>>>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>>>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>>>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>>>>day.)
>>>>
>>>>>What would it save you–less than $10 a year.
>>>>
>>>>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Cousels, so don’t think that it
>>>>>is just Canada with their own. Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>>>>have demanded more money?
>>>>
>>>>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>>>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>>>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>>>>couldn’t make any money either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>>>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>>>>
>>>>>The “Kosher Nostra Scam” on the American Consumer
>>>>>by Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>>>>La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>
>>>>>Los Angeles, Alta California – 4/27/2002 – (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>>receives quite a few “news tips” per week from our many subscribers
>>>>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>>>>attention.
>>>>
>>>>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>>>>of the small encircled letter “U” or letter “K” that can be found
>>>>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>>>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>>>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>>>>certainly was “news” to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>>>>
>>>>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>>>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>>>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>>>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>>>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>>>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>>>>container, the Trader Joe’s tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>>>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>>>>
>>>>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>>>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>>>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>>>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>>>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>>>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>>>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>>>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>>>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>>>>that the mark meant that the coffee was ” certified kosher”.
>>>>
>>>>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be “kosher” and
>>>>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>>>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>>>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>>>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>>>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were “kosher”
>>>>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>>>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>>>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>>>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>>>>receive protection.
>>>>
>>>>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>>>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>>>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>>>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>>>>other similar markings.
>>>>
>>>>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>>>>sophisticated “Kosher Nostra Scams.” It turns out that the
>>>>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>>>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>>>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>>>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>>>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>>>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>>>>in New York City.
>>>>
>>>>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>>>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>>>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>>>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>>The “Kosher Nostra” protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>>>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>>>>certified as kosher, or “fit for a Jew to eat”, they will face a
>>>>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>>>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>>>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>>>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>>>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>>>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>>>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>>>>
>>>>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>>>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>>>>”Kosher Nostra ” certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>>>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>>>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>>>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>>>>up to “inspect” the company’s operations.
>>>>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>>>>lucrative salaries.
>>>>
>>>>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>>>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>>>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>>>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>>>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>>>>it now.
>>>>
>>>>>Only public awareness concerning the “Kosher Nostra Scam” will
>>>>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>>>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>>>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>>>>certainly do not need to pay extra for “kosher water”, “kosher coffee”
>>>>>or “kosher plastic sandwich bags”.
>>>>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>>>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>>>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>>>>other non-Jewish people?
>>>>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>>>>
>>>>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>>>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below, today’s Southam newspapers
>>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>>all Heinz products.
>>>>
>>>>>Heinz declared this was done ” to keep costs down” according
>>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>>>>
>>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>>including those sold under the Libby’s label.
>>>>
>>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>>>>
>>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>From: tyler
>>>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>>>consumers
>>>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>>>>
>>>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>>>>
>>>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>>>proof is easily found.
>>>>
>>>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website explains:
>>>>
>>>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>>>>
>>>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost is minimial to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>>>that!
>>>>
>>>>>>…and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>>>annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>>>friends and neighbours if they know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>>>Jewish, they won’t have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>>>because something is certified.
>>>>
>>>>>>tyler
>>>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>>>>
>>>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>>>>
>>>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>>>>
>>>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>>>> is a revolutionary act.”
>>>> (George Orwell)
>>>>
>>>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>>>>
>>>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>>>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>>>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>>>
>>>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>>>>
>>>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>> and impossible to ignore.”
>>>> –John Bryant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Posted by:
>>>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>>>> 1836 NW 11th St
>>>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>>>> (405) 524-0576
>>>>
>>>> together with
>>>>
>>>> Boris Dynin
>>>> Henry
>>>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>>>
>>>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>>>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>>>> VISIT me at:
>>>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>>> office: VISIT at:
>>>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>>>
>>>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>>>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>>>
>>>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>>>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>>>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>>>
>>>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>>>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>>>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>>
>>>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>>>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>>>> Michael’s
>>>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and
>>>> is
>>>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a
>>>> grosvenor!!
>>>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>>>> nights.
>>>>
>>>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>>>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>>>> work:(780)492-0473
>>>>
>>>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>>>
>>>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>>> JEW-WATCH:
>>>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>>>
>>>> Or, other useful websites include:
>>>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>>>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>>>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>>>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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>>>>
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>>>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>>>
>>>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>>>
>>>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>>>
>>>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>>> for many years around the world.
>>>>
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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos”
>The Accusations
> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.
> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm
> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.
> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…
> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”
> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-
KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]
Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer
>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….
>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>The Kastner Case
>—————–
>Introduction
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
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Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
And also: George Firestone: “George”
and [email protected].
Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.
Reply-To: Frank Arthur
or to [email protected], or [email protected]
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
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From: Ernst Zundholz
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Subject: Re: 2 Great FREE Tax Programs
Organization: JewWatch
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:30:06 -0700, Yitzhak Goldstein
wrote:
>There are 2 great FREE computer programs for doing 2006 personal tax
>returns!
>Go to: http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/freebies/P15/
>The programs are: Studio Tax
>and Taxman 2006
>Both are as good, and probably better than the ripoff progs from
>Intuit!!
>No wonder the CEO of Intuit claims he will soon have something to
>compete against the great FREE programs!
Studio Tax was great – better than Intuit’s junk, and it was FREE!!
I recommend it to all, and as ING says: SAVE YOUR MONEY!!
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From: Ernst Zundholz
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Subject: McVay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal Engaged in MONEY LAUNDERING & RICO – Repost
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:55:06 -0700, in can.general Frank Arthur
Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
Proof!
Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.
With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!
Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID:
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
——————————AND——————————-
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID:
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:15:03 GMT, snowman
>Loaf of Bread wrote:
>> On Mar 4, 1:02 pm, Ernst Zundholz
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:30:06 -0700, Yitzhak Goldstein
>>> wrote:
>>> [ Something by one Grosvenor sock puppet]
>> [Something by another Grosvenor sock puppet]
>>
>> Good one Grosvenor!!
>>
>> Now go back to laudering that latex rubber underwear.
>For all of his wild rants, I was surprised that this post actually had a
>bit of substance. I downloaded. this program, it actually looks pretty
>good…not bad for a freebie. Chalk one up for Grosvenor, he just saved
>me 35 bucks 🙂
Most of Grosvenor’s messages contain TRUTH, as well as useful information.
Unfortunately, cretins such as mouldy Loaf of Bread refuse to respond to the
topics, just post ad hominem remarks, probably because they have no education
beyond Alberta grade 8?
Glad you found the alternative tax program useful, and as ING says:
SAVE YOUR MONEY!!
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From: Ernst Zundholz
Newsgroups: tor.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.australian
Subject: Remembrance Day for All – NO HOLOHOAX Day Just for ZYDS!!
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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky
wrote:
Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS,
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!
Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg
>>From: Nemo
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of All Holocausts Of 20th Century–Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin’s Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler’s Nazis.
>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward” and “Cultural Revolution”.
>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.
>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having
>>CHRIST killed!!
>>[email protected] (LisaMcVay) wrote in message
>>news:<[email protected]>…
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!
>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!
>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?
>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.
>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.
>>Canada doesn’t even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930’s.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?
>>Canada doesn’t celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied
>>Australia.
>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS – who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes – do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be exterminated!!
>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!
>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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Subject: Re: FRAUD in City Tax Department – Time to FIRE/Prosecute Staff Responsible!! MORE!! No Wonder Businesses LEAVE! Repost
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No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer’s house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR,
FOR 8 YEARS!!
One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?
>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing, March 27.
>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed for his property at 13723 –
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.
>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?
It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year – for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!
>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!
>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!
>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!
>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?
>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!
>> From: [email protected] the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700
>> Why do you call our beuatiful city “deadmonton”, ?
>> if you don’t like it here why are you doing here? why don’t you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you’re
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>
>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!
>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do – FILE AN APPEAL!!
>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!
>>> Checking the website for this year’s assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!
>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!
>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?
>>> From: [email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700
>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.
>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!
>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.
>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?
>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!
>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?
>>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!
>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!
>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.
>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.
>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!
>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did…..
>>>>>> starwars
>>>>>> news:
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!
>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 – still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:49 -0400, “El Conquistador”
wrote:
>’Misuse of Canada’s identity’ questioned in Israeli spy operation
>Stewart Bell
>National Post
>A SENIOR Cabinet official questioned the head of Israel’s security service
>about allegations Israeli undercover agents posed as Canadians during an
>operation to assassinate a Palestinian terrorist leader, newly released
>documents show.
>Although Ottawa has said publicly it was convinced all along the spy claims
>were false, internal documents obtained yesterday show the matter has
>continued to concern the government and has been the subject of
>behind-the-scenes diplomacy.
>In a confidential report, officials said they were concerned about “other
>countries’ intelligence services misusing Canada’s identity” and that “such
>misuse endangers Canadians travelling around the world and undermines the
>integrity of Canadian passports.”
>Ronald Bilodeau, the Privy Council Office security and intelligence
>co-ordinator and Cabinet assistant secretary, met on Oct. 1 with the head of
>the Israeli Security Agency, whose spies allegedly used false Canadian
>identities during the operation in Gaza.
>”The ISA is reported to have recently had its agents pose as Canadians to
>lure a Palestinian, 22-year-old Akram Zatmeh, into informing on Intifada
>leaders in return for promises of resettlement in Canada,” according to a
>”Secret: Canadian Eyes Only” memo prepared for the meeting.
> The documents do not describe the response of the ISA chief, who reports
>directly to Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister. Israel has denied the
>claims. But the papers show Ottawa was worried about being linked to a spy
>operation and a botched assassination that killed 14 bystanders, nine of
>them children.
>The allegations surfaced in August, when Mr. Zatmeh publicly detailed how he
>was lured into becoming an Israeli informant by agents who told him they
>were Canadians and could help him immigrate. Mr. Zatmeh said he was
>recruited by three “Canadian” agents who brought him to the Canadian embassy
>in Tel Aviv before coercing him into helping them, with doctored photos that
>showed him with naked women.
>On July 23, Mr. Zatmeh helped Israeli agents pinpoint the location of Sheik
>Salah Shehadeh, a Hamas leader. Twenty minutes later, an Israeli F-16 fired
>a one-tonne missile at the building, killing not only the sheik but also
>more than a dozen bystanders.
>Mr. Zatmeh was later arrested as a collaborator and is facing a possible
>death sentence.
>”Our initial concern … was that the press articles could be seen by some
>as alleging Canadian involvement with Israel in the assassination of Sheik
>Salah Shehadeh,” according to an Aug. 29 internal government memo. “Canada
>has nothing to do with this or with any other purported Israeli operation.”
>After the Post learned of the informant’s allegations, officials told the
>newspaper on Sept. 4 they were satisfied the claims were false. However,
>hours after the Post report on Sept. 5, John McNee, assistant deputy
>minister for Africa and the Mideast, discussed the matter with Haim Divon,
>Israel’s ambassador to Canada.
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Subject: Re: KOSHER TAX SCAM-Heinz/Libby Dump,Too Expensive To Pay!! + KOSHER TAX VIDEO! Repost
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To see a video about the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo
Thanks for posting this nice little introduction to the KosherNostra,
Tommy.
The Kosher industry is a fungus that has penetrated into every level of
US foods production, to the point that, even if you dig around ’til
you find a brand that *doesn’t* bear the mark of the Kosher Beast,
most of the ingredients were still likely certified at some level, so
the Kashrus Khazars are still probably getting a cut.
The film indicates that a portion of the monies extracted from the
sleeping Gentiles in the Kosher racket goes to “support Israel”
(read OPPRESS PALESTINIANS), and this is almost undoubtedly the case.
The OU (Orthodox Union) is the Big Nose in the US Kash-R-Us market, and
they kick massive amounts of cash to support Zionist “causes” in
the Jewish State.
If the Khazars want to eat Kosher from a can, that’s fine by me. But
let them pay for their own fetishes – pass around the plat at the ol’
synagogue. But it’d better be a damn BIG plate, as the film indicated
that they’d need to raise about 6 billion a year to replace the
monies that the Goyim currently unwittingly subsidize them.
One final note: As the film mentioned, some companies are now beginning
to balk – disbelieving the lies told them by the Kosher Racketeers, and
dumping certification. Others are trying to get the best of both
worlds – for instance, right now I’m eating Planters Dry Roasted
Peanuts. On the package is a simple letter “K”. It’s not a
enclosed in a circle or a triangle, not enmeshed ins some fancy
pattern, just a simple “K” located approximately where an
“official” Kosher Symbol – owned by the racketeers- would be
placed.
This means that the company is self-regulating, and is NOT playing the
Kosher Racketeers game – OR paying them. 0:-(>
This is the company’s way of telling the Kash-R-US Rabbis to take a
flying leap – as the Jews can’t copyright the letter “K”, (and
this drives these Food Nazis mad). Of course, Kosher Keeping Jew would
never buy the product because they know better – but the “Kosher is
Better” Gentile consumer – those who have been duped into believing
that the Kosher seal somehow translates to mean a “better” product
(it doesn’t – EVER) will never know the difference, and will buy it
anyway.
The shitty part for the Rabbinical Racketeers is that they CAN’T try
to educate the Gentile public on this matter – if they do, the jig’ll
be up, and they’ll soon be paying for their own picnic. 0:-(>
Will Planters (or Tabasco, etc) miss the Kosher Jewish market? Hell no!
Jews make up only about 2% of the US population, and only about 10% of
those are serious about keeping Kosher on a daily basis. To paraphrase
the ADL’s article: The profit that companies make by selling mainline
products to Kosher Keeping Jews is SO low that “we can’t even
calculate it”.
**
Waldo
Observer at Large
Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!
When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the
KOSHER TAX, who is more believable, them or liars such as you?
Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
$30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!
On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:43:26 -0400, “zr”
>You’ve got so much crap you should bottle it.
>Heinz & Libby both still have “cor” on their products. Just look on the back
>of a bottle of Ketchup dimwit!
>Here is also another fact for you “herr grubber” the Heiress to the Heinz
>fortune is a Jewess married to a Jew John F Kerry. You know the one, he ran
>for President of the USA.
>Never mind Das Boat you get Das Boot imbecile.
>
>”Joe Bruno”
>news:[email protected]…
>> Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!
>> When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the
>> KOSHER TAX, who is more beleivable, them or liars such as you?
>> Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
>> $30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!
>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:53:33 -0500, “zr”
>>
>>>Pure Bullshit!
>>>Next you’ll be telling everyone Hallal foods are a rip off. Then Cereal,
>>>and
>>>baby food.
>>>How about dog food.
>>>Isn’t that what you white trash racists eat.
>>
>>>”Jules Streiker”
>>>news:[email protected]…
>>>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>>>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>>>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>>>>
>>>> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>>>> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>>>> part-time job!!
>>>>
>>>> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>>>> extortion tax!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks….
>>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>>>> qualified to do…
>>>>
>>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>>>>
>>>>>From: [email protected]
>>>>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>>>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>>>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>>>>”veranda”
>>>>>news:
>>>>>> > > veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since
>>>>>> > > it
>>>>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>>>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>>>>>> > > The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>>>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> news:[email protected]…
>>>>>> > What duplication? It is a symbol on the container and the cost
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > not change in any way. This “paranoia” is silly.
>>>>
>>>>>veranda : what ‘paranoia’ ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>>>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>>>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>>>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>>>>you knew that !
>>>>>Kosher is Israel’s food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>>>>we got our own ! 🙂
>>>>
>>>>>Well, to set the record straight. The Rabbinate council that approves
>>>>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>>>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>>>>doesn’t really care. It is not an item by item thing. With the
>>>>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>>>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>>>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>>>>day.)
>>>>
>>>>>What would it save you–less than $10 a year.
>>>>
>>>>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Cousels, so don’t think that it
>>>>>is just Canada with their own. Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>>>>have demanded more money?
>>>>
>>>>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>>>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>>>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>>>>couldn’t make any money either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>>>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>>>>
>>>>>The “Kosher Nostra Scam” on the American Consumer
>>>>>by Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>>>>La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>
>>>>>Los Angeles, Alta California – 4/27/2002 – (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>>receives quite a few “news tips” per week from our many subscribers
>>>>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>>>>attention.
>>>>
>>>>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>>>>of the small encircled letter “U” or letter “K” that can be found
>>>>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>>>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>>>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>>>>certainly was “news” to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>>>>
>>>>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>>>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>>>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>>>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>>>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>>>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>>>>container, the Trader Joe’s tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>>>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>>>>
>>>>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>>>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>>>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>>>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>>>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>>>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>>>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>>>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>>>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>>>>that the mark meant that the coffee was ” certified kosher”.
>>>>
>>>>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be “kosher” and
>>>>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>>>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>>>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>>>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>>>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were “kosher”
>>>>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>>>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>>>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>>>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>>>>receive protection.
>>>>
>>>>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>>>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>>>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>>>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>>>>other similar markings.
>>>>
>>>>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>>>>sophisticated “Kosher Nostra Scams.” It turns out that the
>>>>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>>>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>>>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>>>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>>>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>>>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>>>>in New York City.
>>>>
>>>>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>>>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>>>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>>>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>>The “Kosher Nostra” protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>>>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>>>>certified as kosher, or “fit for a Jew to eat”, they will face a
>>>>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>>>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>>>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>>>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>>>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>>>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>>>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>>>>
>>>>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>>>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>>>>”Kosher Nostra ” certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>>>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>>>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>>>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>>>>up to “inspect” the company’s operations.
>>>>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>>>>lucrative salaries.
>>>>
>>>>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>>>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>>>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>>>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>>>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>>>>it now.
>>>>
>>>>>Only public awareness concerning the “Kosher Nostra Scam” will
>>>>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>>>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>>>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>>>>certainly do not need to pay extra for “kosher water”, “kosher coffee”
>>>>>or “kosher plastic sandwich bags”.
>>>>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>>>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>>>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>>>>other non-Jewish people?
>>>>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>>>>
>>>>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>>>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below, today’s Southam newspapers
>>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>>all Heinz products.
>>>>
>>>>>Heinz declared this was done ” to keep costs down” according
>>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>>>>
>>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>>including those sold under the Libby’s label.
>>>>
>>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>>>>
>>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>From: tyler
>>>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>>>consumers
>>>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>>>>
>>>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>>>>
>>>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>>>proof is easily found.
>>>>
>>>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website explains:
>>>>
>>>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>>>>
>>>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost is minimial to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>>>that!
>>>>
>>>>>>…and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>>>annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>>>friends and neighbours if they know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>>>Jewish, they won’t have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>>>because something is certified.
>>>>
>>>>>>tyler
>>>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>>>>
>>>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>>>>
>>>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>>>>
>>>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>>>> is a revolutionary act.”
>>>> (George Orwell)
>>>>
>>>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>>>>
>>>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>>>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>>>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>>>
>>>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>>>>
>>>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>> and impossible to ignore.”
>>>> –John Bryant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Posted by:
>>>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>>>> 1836 NW 11th St
>>>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>>>> (405) 524-0576
>>>>
>>>> together with
>>>>
>>>> Boris Dynin
>>>> Henry
>>>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>>>
>>>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>>>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>>>> VISIT me at:
>>>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>>> office: VISIT at:
>>>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>>>
>>>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>>>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>>>
>>>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>>>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>>>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>>>
>>>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>>>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>>>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>>
>>>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>>>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>>>> Michael’s
>>>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and
>>>> is
>>>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a
>>>> grosvenor!!
>>>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>>>> nights.
>>>>
>>>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>>>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>>>> work:(780)492-0473
>>>>
>>>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>>>
>>>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>>> JEW-WATCH:
>>>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>>>
>>>> Or, other useful websites include:
>>>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>>>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>>>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>>>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>>> Subscribe: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>>>
>>>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>>>
>>>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>>>
>>>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>>> for many years around the world.
>>>>
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From: Ernst Zundholz
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Subject: Re: Anyone care to comment? Crooked Edmonton School Board Wasted Millions! Repost
Organization: JewWatch
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Typical bureaucratic SCAM!!
The big shots KNEW they were OVERPAYING the teachers, but chose to do nothing!
The principals KNEW they were OVER BUDGET, but chose to do nothing!
The teachers knew the Board could not afford them, but di not give a damn.
And what about all the overpaid TRUSTEES?
Why are they not being prosecuted, for NEGLIGENCE?
What is more alarming, the AUDITORS KNEW THERE WERE SERIOUS FINANCIAL
IRREGULARITIES, AND CHOSE TO COVER THEM UP FOR THOSE YEARS,
INSTEAD OF EXPOSING THE PEOPLE WHO PAID THEM!!
Or is it really pay-off to keep quiet?
Does CA still stand for CROOKED ACCOUNTANT?
It seems no one directly involved is being held responsible – why?
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:35:57 GMT, Sew
>CARRIE McFADZEAN
>Examiner Staff
>Edmonton Catholic School (ECS) trustees are changing the way they
>operate.
>
>Opening up lines of communication, taking back some of the
>superintendent’s power and playing a role on the budget committee are
>part of sweeping changes in the board’s governance policy.
>
>“For some time, the board has felt the governance model we’ve been
>using hasn’t been working that well,” says board chairperson Debbie
>Cavaliere.
>
>The changes, which were made during a board retreat in late May,
>follow a tumultuous time in the district.
>
>Earlier this year, a $10 million deficit, caused by accounting errors
>and overspending, was discovered. It will take the district five years
>to pay it back. At the end of February, superintendent Dale Ripley’s
>contract was terminated.
>
>While a new superintendent hasn’t been hired yet, Cavaliere says the
>timing was right to change the board’s governance policies.
>
>“It’s a dramatic shift in thinking and it’s time for the change,” she
>says.
>
>The board has been using the Carver model of governance since 1997.
>
>Under this model, used by many school boards in Alberta, trustees set
>policy direction, which is implemented by the superintendent who
>reports directly to the board.
>
>All district staff report only to the superintendent and have no
>contact with trustees.
>
>“Under that model, the board delegated a lot of responsibility,” says
>Cavaliere.
>
>“It kept only those responsibilities that cannot be delegated like
>school closures, budget allocations and teacher transfers. Everything
>else was delegated to the superintendent.”
>
>Trustees were making important decisions based on information provided
>by the superintendent.
>
>Wanting a broader perspective and information base, trustees signaled
>a need for change.
>
>The new made-in-Edmonton-Catholic model gives more power to the
>trustees.
>
>For example, a trustee will now sit on the budget committee.
>
>Trustees will determine what responsibilities and authority district
>staff have.
>
>The superintendent will still have many of the same responsibilities,
>but trustees will now be able to ask senior staff questions directly.
>
>“It doesn’t put the onus on the superintendent to gather and relay the
>information,” says Cavaliere. “It’s much more effective and more
>efficient.”
>
>The new governance documents are being drafted and will come to a
>public meeting in the fall for a trustee vote.
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From: Ernst Zundholz
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Subject: Re: 2 Great FREE Tax Programs – Repost
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:30:06 -0700, Yitzhak Goldstein
wrote:
>There are 2 great FREE computer programs for doing 2006 personal tax
>returns!
>Go to: http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/freebies/P15/
>The programs are: Studio Tax
>and Taxman 2006
>Both are as good, and probably better than the ripoff progs from
>Intuit!!
>No wonder the CEO of Intuit claims he will soon have something to
>compete against the great FREE programs!
Studio Tax was great – better than Intuit’s junk, and it was FREE!!
I recommend it to all, and as ING says: SAVE YOUR MONEY!!
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From: Ernst Zundholz
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Subject: Canadian Tax Collectors Bible – Still Available – Repost
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A fine work, carefully produced by former CRA staffer Alan Baggett.
No wonder the crooks in CRA are so incensed!!
Plus, it seems one of the crooks Alan prosecuted is still angry.
A must-have for every business owner, and ideal as a Christmas present, or now
at tax time!
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:24:26 GMT, ProBonoPublico
>It is readily available for $25 from Alan Baggett
>The TCB is $25 Canadian. Supply a stamped and padded self addressed envelope
>(large enough for a CD in a jewel case) and the Tax Collector’s Bible is only
>$20. And it’s the best tax investment you will ever make. Even lawyers and
>accountants don’t have this previously unpublished information. Payment by
>cash, cheque, money order and credit card (via Paypal).
>Orders to:
>Alan Baggett,
>1165 Carol St.,
>Burlington, Ontario,
>L7S 2A2
>For further information, questions or comments query [email protected]
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 04:08:21 GMT, “petsormeat”
>>After months of reading troll posts about this book, I would like to have a
>>copy.
>>Does anyone have one for sale or know where I can purchase it.
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From: Ernst Zundholz
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Subject: Re: More Edmonton news
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Have you forgotten, that the Edmonton gestapo are headed by the former deputy
chief from Hogtown, Mickey Boyd, who was constantly refused the chief position
in Cheranna!!
Criminality is normal for the Edmonton thugs in the local fuzz!!
On 31 Jan 2007 11:00:54 -0800, “Joe”
>Terry would have something to say about this if it happened in
>Toronto.
>” EDMONTON-Edmonton police – accused of holding nine homeless people
>against their will in a sweltering van before dumping them in a remote
>location – denied sitting on the case yesterday and emphasized they
>were not targeting citizens at random.
>”I hope that the public realizes we don’t drive around picking up
>people for no reason and dropping them off in the middle of nowhere
>for no reason,” Insp. Brad Doucette told reporters.
>Doucette said the case of the homeless nine was investigated after it
>occurred on May 20, 2005. He said information at the time did not
>warrant taking the case forward, but he said new information presented
>to them last month has prompted a criminal investigation of three
>officers.”
>Did police confine street people? TheStar.com – News – Did police
>confine street people?
>January 31, 2007
>Dean Bennett
>Canadian Press
>http://www.thestar.com/article/176564
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Subject: Amazing History of ZYD/Jew Crime – Repost
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On 29 Aug 2006 11:46:41 -0700, in can.politics “Russ”
JEWISH CRIME
“Of all the areas of Jewish enterprise,” notes Gerald Krafetz, “none
has been so overlooked as the field of crime. And it isn’t because of
a lack of Jewish criminality. For an introspective people, this
oversight is significant. It is as if Jewish crime did not exist, an
unsavory skeleton is best left in the family closet … The
sociopathology of Jews is not an acceptable notion since it runs
counter to both religious precepts and preconceived ideas that Jews
have of themselves.” [KREFETZ, p. 112] “Jews were … involved in many
of the most visible and spectacular frauds of the post-Civil War
period,” notes Benjamin Ginsberg, “as well as in economic dislocations
and financial manipulations that characterize the era.” [GINSBERG, p.
75] In one much publicized scandal for instance, the Jewish governor
of South Carolina, Franklin Moses, oversaw the issue and selling of $6
million in fraudulent state securities, as well as funneling hundreds
of thousands of dollars in public funds into his own pocket.
[GINSBERG, p. 75]
In a broader financial sphere, very visibly at the top of the socio-
economic pyramid, Jewish businessman Joseph Seligman’s nefarious
activities in the late 1800s helped to create the infamous “Black
Friday” stock market crash. Benjamin Ginsberg notes that the crash
“ruined thousands of investors, implicated President Grant, and led to
a Congressional investigation of [Jay] Gould and Seligman …
Similarly, in the early 1890s, Jacob Schiff collaborated with E. H.
Harriman in the latter’s attempts to wrest control of the Northern
Pacific Railroad from J. P. Morgan and James Hill … When the price
of the Northern Pacific Stock collapsed, the entire market crashed in
the notorious ‘Black Thursday’ panic that led to a nationwide economic
depression.” [GINZBURG, p. 73]
In 1885 the French-based project to build the Panama Canal collapsed,
resulting in financial scandal that led, in part, to Seligman again.
“Both the United States Congress and the French Parliament had
inquiries,” says Ginsberg, “In both countries major Jewish financiers
were implicated: Baron Jacques de Reinach in Paris and Joseph Seligman
in the United States. Many shareholders lost everything, but Seligman
lost nothing. In contemporary parlance, the Seligmans engaged in
influence peddling, insider trading, and corporate asset stripping and
looting — all at the expense of credulous investors.” [GINZBURG, p.
74] The French end of the Panama Canal scandals, notes Albert
Lindemann, “involved large amounts of French capital and threatened
national prestige — and Jewish agents were deeply involved. The
intermediaries between the Panama company and parliament were almost
exclusively Jews with German names and backgrounds, some of whom tried
to blackmail one another.” [LINDEMANN, p. 87]
continued at
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/09crime.htm
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:38:05 GMT, in can.politics “Kaholicious”
That’s probably true — that Cipal Golan quickly skuttled off to Israel after
that Gov. McGreevey scandal broke in the U.S. a couple years back
“AlX”
news:[email protected]…
>
> The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist – tho many
> Jews are not willing to live there – is as a refuge for Jewish
> fugitives
> from around the world. If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
> Israel, he is home free. Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
> other country to face criminal charges – not even to the U.S.
> without whose support Israel would not even exist.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721
> Jacob “Kobi” Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
> one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
> fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
> $57 million of ill-gotten gains.
> As todays New York Times reports:
> New York – Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
> options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
> Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.
> In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
> had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
> to be distributed to favored employees.
> The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
> into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
> not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
> according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
> issued for his arrest.
> Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
> a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
> extensive business operations.
> In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
> to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
> believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
> prosecutors have asked to be frozen.
> http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php
> (End of quote)
> Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
> of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
> Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
> forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.
> This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
> attacks on 9/11.
> Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad’s
> involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:
> At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
> imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
> plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
> WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
> authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
> of lives.
> Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
> and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
> nationality.
> Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo’s vice president,
> reportedly said, “It was possible that the attack warning was
> broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
> reports of other recipients of the message.”
> The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
> months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
> matter. There have been no media reports since.
> Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
> Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
> town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad’s
> headquarters are located.
> Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
> another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
> were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider
> trading.”
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985
> Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
> had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
> transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
> from justice. Why didn’t the police arrest him before he was able to
> get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
> connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:55:06 -0700, in can.general Frank Arthur
Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
Proof!
Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.
With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!
Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
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Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
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Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
——————————AND——————————-
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
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Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
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Now that the PCs are planning to implement a 3 strikes law, why not also
re-introduce the DP?
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, “princeandy”
>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.
> >There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
> >of televising executions.
> >A few more thoughts on the subject.
> >The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
> >execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
> >VICTIMS of the criminals executed.
> >The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
> >not only determine the method of execution, but should also
> >have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.
> >Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
> >but not limited to such, would include:
> > rapists
> > drug dealers
> > AIDS spreaders
> > home invaders
> > armed robbers
> > pederasts and similar child molesters
> > crooked liars/lawyers
> > corrupt judges
> > corrupt politicians
> > insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
> > members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
> > useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
> > criminals being released
> >Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
> > any spreader of any disease,including STD – this would
> > obviously include most faggots
> > white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
> > dollars (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
> > how they would exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)
> >More suggestions for both categories are invited.
> >Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:
> > crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
> > vivisection
> > medical experiments without anaesthetic
> > target practice for police and military
> > beheading
> > hanging
> > barbecueing by electrocution
> > drawing & quartering
> >Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
> > guillotining, very popular in France
> > flaying alive until dead
> > stoning to death – popular in some jurisdictions
> >Suggestions are invited, on all the above points.
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Even Jews are now so critical of this disgusting pervert, that Sol
Littman/Bnai Brith
set up a special website critical of McVay at:
http://www.freedomsite.org/exposed/littman/littman_on_mcvay/index.shtml
From: “david_michael”
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Subject: Re: Background info on Kenny McVay
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:01:40 +0100
THE MCVAY FILES
Compiled by Dr D. E. Michael,
CONTENTS
1. Introduction
2. Biodata
2.1 Biography
2.2 Family
2.3 Disability
2.4 Height
2.5 Tastes
2.6 Political affiliations
3. Contact details
3.3 Residential details
3.4 Office details
3.5 E-mail details
4. Financial/business details
4.1 Recent clients
4.2 Employment history
4.2.1 The official version (from Nizkor/McVay)
4.2.2 The unofficial version (from a Toronto newspaper)
4.3 Political funding
5. Negative information
5.1 Sexual sleaze
5.1.1 The Alice in Wonderland gaffe
5.1.2 The ‘I fail to see harm’ in child pornography gaffe
5.2 The ‘anti-racist’ who uses racial abuse
5.3 The man who gives advice on drug prices
5.4 The man who offered to kill his own father
5.5 The man who has a history of squabbles with other
anti-revisionists
5.5.1 Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger
5.5.2 Sol Littman
5.5.3 Disagreement with unnamed supporters over management of Nizkor
5.5.4 Argument with Yale F. Edeiken, David ‘Orac’ Gorski and John
Morris
regarding use of personal information about supporters of revisionists
5.6 Incompetent and deliberately misleading research
5.6.1. NetGuide errors
5.6.2 Misleading and out-of-context quotations
5.6.3 Plain incompetence – my biography
5.7 The Nizkor funding controversy
5.7.1 Nizkor’s official position re. B’nai Brith Canada
5.7.2 The allegation re. B’nai Brith Canada
5.7.3. McVay’s responses to the attacks
5.7.4 The San Antonio Fund
5.7.5 Ken Lewis’s response to the attacks
5.6.7 Is Nizkor really just a Web site and not an organization?
5.8 Encouragement of denial-of-service attacks on opponents
6. Conclusion
Appendix – note on Usenet and Web citations
1. INTRODUCTION
The following dossier on Mr Kenneth McVay of Nanaimo, British
Columbia, Canada,the ‘director’ of the Nizkor Project, has been
compiled entirely from publicdomain resources. Copious notes give
sources for particular items of information. All of the information is
correct and easily verifiable as at December 2002. It will obviously
need to be updated from time to time. In particular, Mr McVay is very
adept at removing embarrassing information from Websites rather
quickly, so use should be made of historical Internet archiving
resources such as the Internet Archive Wayback Machine
(http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html) to obtain information
that has been removed. The sources given here will need to be updated
accordingly to keep abreast of this. It will be observed that, with a
very few exceptions, most of the information results either from
Usenet posts made by Mr McVay to the Internet, or his own Web pages,
or interviews that he has given to the press.
Why prepare a lengthy dossier on Mr McVay? There are several very good
reasons.
(a) Mr McVay, as I shall demonstrate, deliberately misrepresents
Nizkor’s financial and organizational affairs. It is right that this should be
publicized so that those who fund and do business with this gentleman
know the sort of person with whom they’re becoming involved.
(b) Mr McVay’s Nizkor Project purports to be an ‘educational
resource’. It tries, inter alia, to sell to our schoolchildren a particular
view of revisionist historians and those who make common cause with such
historians. I am thus performing a public service in bringing to the notice of
the wider community some of the more controversial aspects of Mr McVay’s life
and work, including his rather poor research, his somewhat sleazy financial
associations, the fact that he has been the subject of much criticism
>from his own side for his unorthodox methods, his controversial views
on such matters as drugs and child pornography, and his avowed
willingness to commit murder. The fact that he is a liar also deserves
note.
If our children are to be ‘taught’ by men like Mr McVay, they have
every right to know such things about this ‘teacher’. So do their
parents.
(c) Mr McVay specializes in collecting dirt on people and using it to
smear them. He is very adept, as will be shown below, at taking quotations
out of context, at giving only half of the story – at misleading. As children
and impressionable minds are the intended targets of his material it is
right that they and their guardians should know a little about the sort of
person who is providing it.
(d) I am a victim of one of Mr McVay’s smear campaigns. Mr McVay has
posted many, many articles (often with identical wording) to Usenet accusing
me of all sorts of things of which I am quite innocent. He has even
posted some of his nonsense to local newsgroups in the areas in which
he thinks I live – this can only be intended to damage my good name
and to cause harm to my family and to me. I am not the only person who
has had to endure this sort of hate campaign from Mr McVay.
One Mr William Grosvenor of Canada found his name and address
published on McVay’s Nizkor Web site. Grosvenor was firebombed.
Mr Scott Bradbury also had his address and telephone number posted on
Mr McVay’s Web site and was made the victim of a ferocious campaign of
telephone harassment. The civil law offers no protection when the
perpetrator has limited financial resources and the British police,
political to the core, are worse than useless.
In compiling this dossier I am sending a message to Mr McVay that I
have not been intimidated into silence by him and that I will continue to
expose him and his dwindling band of supporters for the dishonest
people that they are.
(e) Mr McVay publishes, on his Nizkor site, lengthy dossiers on people
– including myself. Some of us feel that this is an intrusion into our
privacy – particularly as some of the information is incorrect, defamatory,
misleading and/or negative and we are given little or no opportunity to
correct it or to place it in context. It is perhaps only fair that those who
use this particular technique for ‘discouraging’ debate about World War II
history should be sent a message that the compilation of dossiers is a
game at which both sides can play.
I, at least, make a reasonable attempt to get my facts straight.
It is in this spirit of defiance that I proudly present The McVay
Files.
D. E. Michael
December 2002
2. BIODATA
2.1 Biography
Born: Santa Clara, California, USA, 2 October 1940.1
Studied: computer science.2
Married: 19613 (subsequently divorced, apparently around 1986 – see
below).
Moved: to British Columbia (with family and basset hound), 1967.4
Financial failure: He described what happened next in a Usenet post:5
Once upon a time, millions of salmon ago, I moved my family from a
Yankee city all the way up across the Canadian border and right there about
500 miles up the arsehole of the world. At the time, I was convinced I had
whatever it was it took to be a pioneer – to hack a home out of the
bush and raise my children there. (I was wrong, but that’s often been
the case in my life, so I’ve gotten used to it :-)) I wanted to buy my
daughter a pony. All I had, mind you, to KEEP a pony, was 160 acres of
certified, mosquito-filled raw Canadian bush, but that rarely
prevented me from doing things like buying a horse for my critter, so
of course I bought her one – if anyone cares about that tail, try
getting Lisa over to rec.equestrian to chat, or ask her (politely) via
email. I so enjoyed watching Lisa with that horse that it wasn’t long
before I went out and bought her another one – about the size of a
small house. When Reality finally set in, several horse stories later,
I realized that there was no way on God’s earth that I could keep
those horses, and I had to explain that to my daughter.
He gave more detail of the cause of his financial failure in an
interview to The Idler:6
In Canada with his schoolteacher wife, McVay set up a dedicated server
to connect Salmon farmers, which was used to track the price of fish food
and commodities. When the price of farm-raised fish plunged from $4.00 to
$2.00 a pound, many of his customers went belly-up. But McVay still had
contracts to provide computer service.
Started anti-revisionist work: 1991.7
Began Nizkor: January 1992.8
Awards:
A list of awards supposedly received by Ken McVay’s Nizkor site may be
found on that site itself.9 More notable among McVay’s awards are the
Order of British Columbia 1995 and the Media Human Rights Award,
presented by B’nai Brith Canada, in March 1996.10 He received an award
>from Eye magazine for his Nizkor site in 1999.11
Citizenship:
Retains Canadian and US dual citizenship.12
Obtained Canadian citizenship in 1973, ‘partially in protest over the war in
‘Nam, and partially to express my thanks to Canada for providing me with
training, health care, and apeaceful way of life’.13
2.2 Family
Father: born 1915, died 1989 of cancer.14 Served in Army Intelligence
in the Pacific theater during WWII.15
Mother born: 1917.16 Built landing craft for Food Machinery
Corporation.17
Parental vices: Ken’s mother and father were both fond of Martinis.18
Brother: served in the US Marines.19
Marriage(s)
Ken was married to a schoolteacher in 1961,20 from whom he claims he
was divorced after 25 years of marriage (thus around 1986).21
However, he makes Usenet references to a wife as late as 1992, which
suggest that he might have remarried.22
Descendants
He has four children and eight grandchildren.23
His children consist of three girls and one boy.
Daughter 1
One daughter is Lisa Lambeth (formerly Lisa Graham).
Lisa apparently divorced Mr Graham24 to marry Mr Garry Lambeth (former
e-mail address
grease@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca [DEFUNCT])and then split with Mr Lambeth.25
Lisa was the founder of a group called Parents for Enforcing Regular
Child Support (PERCS).26
Lisa appears to have been involved in some way with a musician by the
name of Dan Livingstone, and they evidently shared an e-mail address,
[email protected] (now defunct). Lisa appears to be involved in
promotions work in the music industry.
She works from:Suite 46-855 Howard Avenue, Nanaimo BC, Canada V9R 5V4,
tel. 250-753-4571 apparently for Stride Productions, where she is associated
with one Nigel Mack.
Lisa’s earlier e-mail addresses included: [email protected]
[DEFUNCT]
Lisa’s last known e-mail address was [email protected].
Lisa has two daughters: Chelsea, born 1982 (old e-mail address:
chel[email protected] {DEFUNCT]), and another girl born 1987,
both apparently by Mr Graham. Chelsea has light brown hair and is
interested in horses, running and music.
Son
McVay has a son who served in the American Marines in the Gulf during
Operation Desert Storm in 1991.27 Specifically, he served in Marine
2nd. LAI Btn28 near Khafji, Saudi Arabia.29
Prior to serving in the Marines, McVay’s son had difficulty finding a
job, being rejected by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.30
After returning from the Gulf he worked for a short period in Portland
before returning to Canada,31 and in 1996 was serving in the US Army.32
In 1991 McVay’s son had a Canadian wife and a daughter.33
In June 1996, McVay was to claim that his son was suffering from Gulf
War Syndrome.34, although evidently this was not so severe as to prevent
him remaining in the employ of the US Army as at November of the same
year.35
Daughter 2
One of the other daughters was teaching in Portland in 1992.36
Daughter 3
The third daughter was living in Canada in 1992.37
It appears that some of McVay’s children other than Lisa have also
been divorced.38
2.3 Disability
Ken now has permanent hearing loss and wears hearing aids.39 He is not
in good health, suffering from tendonitis and carpal tunnel syndrome.40
2.4 Height
6’3″41
2.5 Tastes42
Beer: Newcastle Brown Ale, Waterloo Dark, Ruddles County Ale
Cognac: Remy Martin Grand Champagne, Martel Cordon Bleu
Comedian: John Cleese
Comedy group: Monty Python’s Flying Circus
Delis: Montreal: Schwartz’s (likes their smoked meat platter).
Toronto: Wolfie’s, 670 Sheppard Avenue W. (likes the corned beef sandwich).
Dog: Bassett hound
Pizza joints: Pasta la Vista, Winnipeg, Manitoba La Cantina, Hamilton,
Ontario
Politician: Pierre Elliot Trudeau
Scifi: book Endor’s Game (Orson Scott Card)
Sports cars: MGTD & BGT, Austin-Healy Sprite, Lotus 7 Mk IV
Stout: Guinness, daft preferred; Murphy’s will do in a pinch
Wine (red): Australian Shiraz and Merlots, The Wolf Blass label, from
Bilyara Cellars
Wine (white) bletch
Music: blues, ‘new country’ music, Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony
Motor sport.
2.6 Political affiliations
In 1996 Mr McVay claimed to be apolitical, stating that he had not
voted since 1973.43
Nevertheless, he continues to claim Pierre Trudeau as his
favourite politician. He has also expressed admiration for America’s
Ross Perot44
3 CONTACT DETAILS
3.1 Residential details:
995 Bowen Road, Apt. 3108, Nanaimo, British Columbia V9R 2A4, Canada.
Same telephone number as office (see below). (Correct at December 2002.)
(Note that on 8 May 1996 Edmonton Jewish Life (EJL) gave his home
address as 1 North Morgan Cres., Port Alberni BC V9Y 6C1.45 As at December
2002, there was, in fact, no number 1 on this particular street.)
3.2 Office details:
462-1150, North Terminal Avenue, Nanaimo BC, Canada V9S 5T8,
tel.(250) 616 9431.
Also used the following toll-free number as of October 2002:
877-505-7761
The postal address he uses for this is:
PO Box 244, Station A, Nanaimo BC, Canada, V9R 5K9
His former office address (i.e. that of his consultancy company in the
early 1990s, for example on 10 January 1990) was 1B Systems Management Ltd,
4B – 2520 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, BC V9T.
It also operated from 5-1601 Bowen Road Nanaimo, British Columbia V9S 1G7 CA,
tel. (604) 758-2499.
3.3 E-mail details
He has used various e-mail addresses including, inter alia:
[email protected] [DEFUNCT]
kmcvay@oneb [DEFUNCT]
[email protected] [DEFUNCT]
[email protected] [DEFUNCT]
[email protected] [DEFUNCT]
[email protected] {DEFUNCT]
[email protected] [DEFUNCT]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
He has someone called Dawn handling his bookings for him.46 Whether
this is his partner, secretary or a volunteer is not clear. Her e-mail
address is:
[email protected]
4. FINANCIAL/BUSINESS DETAILS
Kenneth McVay is not, in fact, a full-time employee of Nizkor. Instead
he works as a freelance Internet marketing consultant. He calls
himself Ken McVay Consulting Group and is registered as self-employed.
4.1 Recent clients
These include:
1. Kiosk.ws 47 (telephone 1-819-682-3744). This is owned by Telco
Advertising, 38 Belmont Drive, Aylmer, Quebec, Canada J9H 2M7 and
run by Frank Therien, Joel Therien, Jo-Ann Higgs, Olivier Bedard, Billy Neil
and Ilona Innus.
2. First Place Software,48 2452 North Malang Road, Joplin, MO 64801,
USA
(Telephone 1-417-781-3282)
3. Pro-List49 owned by OpportunitySeekers, PO, Box 1294, Bloomfield,
New Jersey 07003, USA. The people behind this are Jim Vigilante and
Robert Stemmer.
Telephone: (908) 313-4735.
4. Brobeck, Phleger & Harrison attorneys (multiple addresses – big
international law firm).50
5. Triple Your Money.51 This is owned by GlobalOne, PO Box 1126,
Russellville AR 72811, USA. Phone: (479) 967-6335 Fax: (479) 967-7362
6. He also sells an online Internet marketing journal, Wired2Cash,
available
>from http://kenmcvay.com/.52 This appears to be associated with an
organization called NOAN Inc,53 34 Dale Park Drive, Courtice ON L1E
2Z4, Canada. (01- 905-433-2427)
4.2 Employment history
4.2.1 The official version (from Nizkor/McVay)
Marines: Ken purports to have been in the US marines.54 He claims to
have left the marines in or around 1963.55
He gives his reasons for leaving thus:56
I moved to Canada in 1967. I have an honorable discharge from the
Corps, (1963), but was active in the anti-war movement, and decided
that moving to Canada was preferable to continuing the painful process
of watching the United States tear itself apart over ‘Nam.
The cynic might thus be forgiven for concluding that he appears to
have fled to avoid military action.
Provision of computer facilities: On arrival in Canada he provided
computer facilities for salmon farmers and others. This was unsuccessful.57
During the early 1990s he ran a computer consulting firm called 1B
Systems Management Limited,58
operating from 5-1601 Bowen Road Nanaimo, British Columbia V9S 1G7 CA
(604)758-2499 and 4B – 2520 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, BC V9T.
Menial jobs after computer business failed:
While in British Columbia he had numerous menial jobs including seven
years doing construction and maintenance work in sawmills.59
In June 1992 he claimed to be living on less than $13,000 per year. 60
In May 1993 he claimed that he’d been laid off from a software support
job in May 1992.61
In 1994 he was working in a combined convenience store/gas station in
British Columbia.62
Nizkor and speaking By spring 1996 he had given up this job to work
full time on the Nizkor project.63
By 1996 he was earning a small sum of money (which he variously claims
was $1,200 per month and $1,500 per month) from speaking engagements
(see funding below).
In 1999 he was charging $750 per day (negotiable) for his speaking
services.64
This asking fee remained the same in 2001.65
His schedule66 indicates that he had a fairly busy speaking schedule
in 1999 (the very year when he purported to be in such dire financial
difficulties that he was contemplating selling Nizkor – see below).
His schedule became markedly less busy in 2000, disappeared
altogether in 2001, but showed signs of renewed life late in 2002.
Internet marketing consultancy
By 1999 he was earning his living as an Internet marketing
consultant,67 his home page claiming that ‘he earns his living as a
consultant, and travels extensively. His client list includes Justice Canada
and the Ontario Ministry of the Attorney General.’ Again, this was at the time
when he was announcing to all and sundry that Nizkor was in such dire straits
financially that it was about to close!
4.2.2 The unofficial version (from a Toronto newspaper)
Much of the above might be fronting something slightly more serious.
It is possible that Mr McVay might have police connections and might in fact
be working under cover in some way with the ‘intelligence community’. The
cat was apparently let out of the bag by an article in the Toronto Star, dated
22 March 1999, which stated that Ken McVay was ‘a member of the
Vancouver police department for 19 years’.68
Could this be the wrong Ken McVay? Not if one considers that Vancouver
is just a few miles from Nanaimo, and certainly not if one considers
the text of the article:
Speaker Ken McVay, a member of the Vancouver police department for 19
years, said advocacy groups are also guilty of apathy in response to
cyber-hate.’
In 1995, McVay came across an Edmonton man’s Web site that targeted
homosexuals.
After contacting a Toronto advocacy group in July, 1997, and a gay
advocacy group in the fall of 1997, McVay said he’s still waiting for a
response.
Silence welcomes hate crimes, he said.
“Unfortunately, hate is a marginalized issue”, said McVay, stressing
that a collective powerful voice of millions opposing Internet hate is
absent.
It should also be noted that McVay appears to have, or to have had, in
1991, high-level connections with the American army.69
His father worked for US intelligence, thus McVay has well-established
links to the American intelligence network.70
‘Thomas Schwann’ has posted the following on McVay’s alleged
connection with the ‘intelligence community’:71
I took the liberty to look into the matter about a year earlier.
=====
The following was deleted from nic.ddn.mil some time between
17 July 1996 and 19 August 1996. However, as of 19 August 1996
the email address still worked. It was originally captured on 17 July
1996. It disppeared just prior to a 256 copy mailbomb from gryn.org
saying that it was false information. The owner of gryn.org, Alec
Grynspan, openly bragged about having been involved with the
Mossad, i.e. Israeli intelligence.
===
McVay, Ken (KM214)
1B Systems Management Limited
5-1601 Bowen Road
Nanaimo, British Columbia V9S 1G7 CAN
(604) 758-2499
=====
and the finger function was disabled after the mailbomb. But note
the difference between the company name, 1B, and the internet name
oneb as a number can not lead in an internet address.
Some time later I tried it again and finder was working again
and I got this information. The file date for the file on my disk is
12 April 1997.
=====
name server whois.nic.ddn.mil [note on the military nameserver]
results of
finger @oneb.almanac.bc.ca
Login Name TTY Idle When Where
emcc Ed McCrudden pts/11 Sat 16:21
ppp-130.isdn-3.ican.
rasmus Rasmus Lerdorf pts/1 24 Sat 16:49 jetpen.com
jim Jim Mercer pts/10 2:19 Sat 12:45
gecko.reptiles.org
dacole Dave Cole pts/5 1:30 Mon 17:10
graymatter:S.0
erichall Eric Hall *pts/6 1:39 Sat 07:37
cyber3.servtech.com
andrew Andrew Herdman pts/7 1:04 Fri 15:42
ghoul.uunet.ca
leslie Leslie pts/9 Sat 15:01
indy4.indy.net
pjp Peter Philipp *pts/15 14 Sat 15:51
dialin519:S.0
dacole Dave Cole pts/18 20: Fri 15:44
graymatter.net
dacole Dave Cole pts/17 1:47 Sat 02:43
graymatter:S.1
sjohns Stephen Johns pts/21 9:08 Tue 16:00
trt-on22-12:S.1
plaid Alex pts/3 7 Thu 14:43
spc-isp-tor-uas-1-30
pjp Peter Philipp *pts/24 14 Sat 17:03
dialin519:S.2
sjohns Stephen Johns pts/2 37 Sun 21:43
trt-on22-12:S.0
plaid Alex pts/25 19 Sat 14:42
spc-isp-tor-uas-1-30
mot Samantha Lerner pts/30 48 Sat 16:27 fozzy:S.2
mot Samantha Lerner *pts/20 53 Sat 13:05 fozzy:S.1
darcy D’Arcy J. M. Cain pts/23 4 Sat 15:30 druid.com
mot Samantha Lerner pts/19 51 Sat 13:04 fozzy:S.0
mot Samantha Lerner pts/31 1 Sat 14:47 fozzy:S.3
darcy D’Arcy J. M. Cain pts/34 Sat 15:36 druid.com
pjp Peter Philipp *pts/37 Sat 16:05
dialin519:S.1
mattp Matt Pounsett *pts/28 17: Wed 11:02
conundrum.com
plaid Alex pts/12 19 Sat 16:39
spc-isp-tor-uas-1-30
address book [email protected]
Login Name TTY Idle When Where
kmcvay Kenneth McVay OBC pts/12 <Mar 31 07:53>
[Note: There have been claims this is a different Ken McVay but a
search of the British Columbia website regarding the OBC, only one Ken
McVay is listed as having been made that award.]
[Note: When it was announced in alt.revisionism that finger was
operating again, it was shut off again within 24 hours. That puts a
direct connection between alt.revisionism and 1B Systems which was
nice of them to demonstrate in real time.]
Dejanews profile
AUTHOR PROFILE: [email protected]
There are currently no articles in our database for this person.
[Note: While the server changes names from wimsey to alamanac, it is
still from 1B (oneb) Systems.
This may be due to one of the following reasons:
It’s possible that their messages were cancelled;
This person has never posted to Usenet from this account;
This email address/account name is invalid.
=====
In preparing the message I tried it again. I get the response
that it is a valid record but no information on it.
Dejanews has author profiles
p;gt;Archive/File: holocaust/poland Ostrow.05
>Last-modified: 1993/03/27
>Transcription: <A
HREF="
[email protected]">kmcvay@<
B>oneb</B>.almanac.bc.ca</A>
Note the last line, exclusive of html is
[email protected]
[Note: nizkor was originally hosted on almanac.bc.ca]
And finally, someplace out there are the archives of Eye
Magazine, an interview of both McVay and McCarthy and it give McVay
email address as oneb systems.
We have McVay working for a US contractor with access being
hosted on MILNET. This is the original network encompassing DOD, CIA,
NSA and other defense related organizations and activities and their
contractors. Is 1B Systems a legitimate defense contractor? What is a
US defense contractor doing in Canada? What does 1B Management Systems
do for a living? Good luck in finding out as they are not listing on
any open source of DOD contractors.
If not a listed contractor then not DOD making it a black
operation. And if a black operation that leaves us with two
possibilities, CIA and NSA, or are there blacker than black
organizations? So for purposes of discussion CIA is a good as anything
to refer to as the contracting agency.
We have Nizkor originally hosted on a 1B Systems server. Now that
is either a criminal misappropriation of contract funds or
specifically provided for by the contract. There is nothing in between
in that regard. Perhaps it was criminal but as see that as late as
April 1997, McVay is still an employee of 1B Systems.
You will also note a curious lack of mention of such employment
on the various resumes McVay has fronted. At one people he covered his
early years at 1B Systems by claiming to have been a welfare cheat at
the time. Of what purpose a cover story?
What interests the CIA in this matter? Some matter of national
security. What possible national security interest is there for the US
in matters holocaustian? rather dealing with people questioning the
foundations of it?
Is it to cover up the facts of the IMT and US participation in
it? If the US government demonstrably did the IMT and since it has
continued preserving such nonsense for generations, then there are
conclusions to be drawn regarding the US government.
And if the government should become aware of all of the foreign
policy that has followed from it and that continuation becomes
untenable.
It is not so much the initial lie but compounding lie upon lie
regarding it. Fifty years of compouded lie upon lie, false policy upon
false policy.
So yes, the US government has a major interest in the continuation of
these stories without question as much as Israel is not more so.
Ken McVay eventually explicitly denied any connection with the
intelligence community (confusingly referring to himself in the third
person initially):72
Mr. McVay has not had a connection with anyone’s intelligence
community, although CSIS employees have come to at least one of my
presentations… I forget to ask them for a cheque, though… guess if I’m
working for all these spooks, least they could do is pay me, eh? Never have.
Funny, that, me a professional covert spook and all…
This denial, however, fails to account for the Toronto Star article
that clearly links McVay with the police, an account of his background
that is totally at odds with the account given in his interviews and
on his Web sites.
4.3 Political funding
September 1994 his Fascism and Holocaust Archives received funds from
Vancouver-based Committee for Racial Justice.73
But money remains tight, and his aging equipment is consistently on
the verge of collapse.”The whole system is in jeopardy–everything is
at risk on a minute-to- minute basis,” he says. Last week, however, a
group of Vancouver-based admirers persuaded a local charity, the
Committee for Racial Justice, to raise money for McVay’s Fascism and
Holocaust Archives–and his one-man crusade may now become a full-time
job.
(It should be noted that McVay’s pleas of poverty need to be seen in
the context of the fact that a few months earlier he’d announced that
he was in the market for a new car – a ‘Camaro Z28 or TransAm GTA’)74
Prior to October 1994 Professor Norman Swartz, Simon Fraser
University,organized a fund for him with the aid of the United Church.75
Despite continued claims of poverty, Mr McVay nevertheless felt
himself in a position to threaten, on 8 November 1995, to sue the
administrators of IADFW.NET for libel regarding material posted on their
system to which he had taken offence.76
As lawsuits for libel require some capital it appears that McVay was
either being less than frank about his true financial status when
pleading poverty or was being utterly dishonest in his threats to sue.
In ‘spring’ 1996, Canadian Business reported that ‘McVay now devotes
all of his time to Nizkor. He earns $1,200 a month from speaking
engagements and through public support, including that of local Jewish
groups. His ancient computer was recently upgraded, thanks to a
donation from a Christian businessman.’77
Thus McVay, who was threatening expensive litigation, was putting it
about that he was on $1,200 per month and couldn’t even afford to
replace his computer without the assistance of a benefactor!
However, on 8 May 1996, Edmonton Jewish Life gave a slightly different
story:
‘He lives on a modest monthly income of $1500, from a trust fund set
up by some wealthy people who’ve been very generous and mostly plain
folk . . .’78
In 1996 his Canadian funds were being collected by The Zikaron
Tolerance and Remembrance Society 6540 East Hastings Street, Suite 221
Burnaby, BC V5B 4Z5 and Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project
1461 Blanshard St. Victoria, BC V8W 2J3.
>From September, his American funds were collected by the San Antonio
Area Foundation Nizkor Fund P.O. Box 120366 San Antonio, TX 78212-9566.79
In 1997 his Canadian Nizkor funds were being collected by the League
for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada.80
On 21 October 1999 the following article appeared in Canadian Jewish
News:81
Anti-Holocaust denial Web site’s future uncertain
By FRANCES KRAFT
Staff Reporter
TORONTO – An extensive educational Web site that has played a
significant role in debunking Holocaust denial faces a tenuous future,
unless further funding is secured.
Ken McVay, founder and director of the Nizkor Project
(www.nizkor.org), said last week he has sufficient funding to last only
until January.
“Even though there has been some very strong support from a few very
generous people, it hasn’t been enough,” McVay, 59, said in a phone
interview from his home on Vancouver Island, B.C.
He is in the process of determining the site’s commercial value,
although he said it is not currently for sale and he does not foresee
shutting it down.
McVay has listed the site on www.GreatDomains.com with an “asking
price” of $500,000, based on the size of Nizkor and the amount of traffic
it attracts.
The site receives about 9,000 hits a day, said McVay. It has grown
>from 27 pages in 1995 to almost 5,000 pages, including the entire
transcript of the trial of Adolf Eichmann, he added.
McVay is proud to have those transcripts, the product of 18 months of
negotiation. “I know that the Holocaust deniers, who absolutely revile
this site and me, refuse to talk about the Eichmann trial. They can’t
lie about it now.”
The job is never-ending, said McVay. Among his current projects, he is
working on making documentation from the Nuremburg trials available.
Although McVay says the years of devoting himself to Nizkor have left
him weary, his tone of voice – and the fact he recently spent four
consecutive 20-hour days on the project – belie his claim. “Of course
I care,” he asserted. “I never stop caring. I don’t know what I’d do
without [Nizkor]. It’s my life.”
McVay believes that only a “small and very dedicated group of people”
does care.
He guesses that of the estimated 100 to 300 million Internet users in
the world, only about 100 are actively involved in fighting racism on the
Net.
Nizkor began when McVay, a non-Jew with a long-standing interest in
World War II, encountered Holocaust denial on the Internet in the early
1990s.
He was angered by the bigotry he perceived.
“I’m still angry,” he said. “It makes me angry that there are very few
people in the world who give a damn about this.”
A native of Santa Clara, Calif., McVay grew up in a middle-class
neighborhood where, to the best of his knowledge, racism didn’t exist.
In high school, about half his friends were not white. “We never thought
about it,” he said. “Maybe I was just naive.”
Although McVay had read extensively about World War II, he knew little
about the Holocaust per se. “I had just enough background to know that
[Holocaust denial] was crap, but I didn’t have a clue why it was
crap.”
McVay made it his business – his obsession, actually – to learn the
truth, and show it to the rest of the world.
“That’s the beauty of the Internet,” he said. “Most people exposed to
the venom of Holocaust deniers do not have the time or resources to
check the so-called facts they provide.” The Net, he noted, has given
him access to prosecutors, historians and community leaders who have
provided Nizkor with testimony and answers.
Over the years, McVay has developed a worldwide network of dozens
of volunteers to help him access, translate and post material.
The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada administers the
Nizkor Fund, through which donations to support the Web site can be
channeled.
However, the pleas of poverty appear to have worked again because the
Nizkor site did not collapse; indeed, it continued and the following year Ken
announced: ‘Current statistics suggest that the sites will deliver
over ten million pages of text this year.’82
Two years later, in 2002, on an updated version of the same page,
McVay announced:
‘Current statistics suggest that the sites will deliver over twelve
million pages of text this year.’
5. NEGATIVE INFORMATION
CAVEAT: Numerous allegations made against Ken McVay are, to put it
bluntly, false. There is no evidence that he is gay or a male prostitute, for
example(!).
He makes a lot of enemies on the Internet and some have limited
intelligence.
They respond to his smears by smearing him back but not particularly
competently.
Some post forgeries in his name, which means that care needs to be
taken to distinguish genuine McVay posts from fakes, although this is
generally not too difficult and all of the material prior to about
1994 appears to be genuine. Nevertheless, Ken is not an honourable,
moral , or a particularly competent man, and he has made several
easily verifiable gaffes in his life. Some are hilarious. Others are
rather sickening.
5.1 Sexual sleaze
5.1.1 The Alice in Wonderland gaffe
In 1990 Ken McVay really did post the following to the Usenet
newsgroup alt.sex:83
From: kmcvay@oneb (Ken McVay)
Newsgroups: alt.sex
Subject: Erotic Lit. (was Re: sex ves. violence)
Message-ID: <2686f4a0-2.6alt.sex-1@oneb>
Date: 26 Jun 90 06:52:07 GMT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Lines: 8
Posted: Tue Jun 26 07:52:07 1990
>> restrictions are generally in force anyway. Aside from pornography
>> being deadly dull, it doesn’t bother me.
I once enjoyed an exception to the ‘deadly dull’ rule – a delightful
movie entitled ‘Alice in Wonderland’ which bore an, er, superficial
resemblance to another movie of the same name….I’ve been trying
to find a copy for years, or at least to rent one….last time I viewed
it was around 1983….
Bring on the Dancing Nurses! 🙂
This may be found in the Google archives. It was posted before Nizkor
appeared and before McVay had made any revisionist enemies, so it is
certainly not a fake. It appears, from online film reviews, that the uncut
version of this Alice in Wonderland film involves a ‘youthful’ adult actress
depicting a child engaging in certain indecent acts, including, inter alia,
a ’40-second BJ with the mad hatter’ [sic]. (Apparently a ‘very fat, naked
Humpty Dumpty’ also becomes involved in proceedings at some stage –
we will leave our readers to speculate for themselves how a man who
would have been married with children at the time came to be watching
this sort of thing in 1983.)
It should be noted that current Canadian legislation outlaws the
viewing of child pornography, which it (Section 163.1 of the Criminal Code
of Canada) defines ‘child pornography’ thus:84
1.In this section, “child pornography” means
a.a photographic, film, video or other visual representation, whether
or not it was made by electronic or mechanical means,
i.that shows a person who is or is depicted as being under the age of
eighteen years and is engaged in or is depicted as engaged in explicit
sexual activity,
or ii.the dominant characteristic of which is the depiction, for a
sexual purpose, of a sexual organ or the anal region of a person under
the age of eighteen years; or
b.any written material or visual representation that advocates or
counsels sexual activity with a person under the age of eighteen years
that would be an offence under this Act.
(my emphasis)
It should also be emphasized that we do not know whether the version
of the film viewed by Mr McVay in 1983 showed the scenes mentioned
above in their entirety, or whether they were cut in the version that
he saw, or whether Ken McVay viewed the film in its entirety, nor am I
sufficiently familiar with Canadian law to know what restrictions on
child pornography were in force in Canada in 1983.
Certainly, McVay appears to have been sailing rather close to the
wind.
It should be noted, for posterity, that the Alice in Wonderland post
was not Mr McVay’s only contribution to alt.sex.85
5.1.2 The ‘I fail to see harm’ in child pornography gaffe
In an interview with The Ethical Spectacle, 1(6) June 1995, Ken McVay
inadvertently admitted to downloading photographs of naked children
>from the Internet and expressed rather unconventional views about it:86
I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of proportion
(I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have yet to come across
anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve seen photos of naked
children, but then I’ve got some of those in my family photo album,
and fail to see the harm, or any great moral danger to our society).
There are many campaigners against the exploitation of children who
might differ somewhat with Mr McVay on this particular point.
5.2 The ‘anti-racist’ who uses racial abuse
Although Mr McVay is often described as an anti-racist campaigner and
a campaigner against ‘hate speech’, there are documented instances of
him using precisely the sort of racially abusive language against white
people that would get him a jail sentence under the Public Order Act 1986
if used against a black person in the United Kingdom. Specifically, Mr
McVay is rather fond of calling his debating opponents ‘white trash’.
Thus in 1999:
‘Vangel’s just more white trash walking… cannon fodder for the
William Pearce’s of the world, so don’t be too hard on him….’87
The following year, Mr McVay gave us this:88
Only the bravest, most Noble Aryan Heros have the courage required to
intimidate women and children, Sara… the generic white trash we
usually find spouting racist drivel don’t have the balls for it…
after all, if they were men, they wouldn’t do things like that.
And in November 2002, Mr McVay did it again:89
‘He has one thing going for him. He’s a perfect example of White
trash.’
In the normal course of events I would regard such comments as
unremarkable.
However, when an anti-racist campaigner uses racist language, I think
I am quite entitled to point out the hypocrisy therein. After all, if
anti-racists do not take their anti-racism seriously, why should anyone else?
5.3 The man who gives advice on drug prices
In 1993 a gentleman posted a message to Usenet asking ‘What is the
street price of pot?’ Mr McVay provided the following information in a Usenet
post to alt.drugs:90
What kind? In this neck of the woods, hydroponic Indica is commonly
sold for $400 an ounce – some folks call it “green heroin.” At the same time,
it is undoubtedly possible to purchase the evil weed at half that price
Whether Mr McVay acquired that familiarity with drug prices through
work for the Vancouver Police or as a result of criminal behaviour is unclear.
5.4 Willingness to engage in murder
Ken McVay has admitted in a Usenet post that he offered to kill his
own father, who was dying of cancer, and would not hesitate to do the same
for his mother.91
The last two months, when the disease really exploded, he was ashamed
of his condition, and degraded by his inability to control his bodily
functions. During this period, he often spoke of suicide, and I often offered
to help him, if that was what he really wanted . . . I understand the concerns
expressed over this issue – many of them are valid and serious – but I believe
that there are many cases where the issues are very clear, and absolutely
supportive of assisted suicide. I would not hesitate to provide that
assistance for mom, regardless of society’s position.
Mr McVay has stated elsewhere his willingness to kill people:
I am not a “group,” old son, I’m just someone who has lived most of
his life with a clear and unshakeable vision of what the nazis did to the
world. Am I an “extremist?” If you consider that I would not hesitate for an
instant to make good use of my double-barreled 12-gauge to blow some nazi
prick to hell rather than sit back and watch him burn a church to the ground
while beating Jewish folks to death in the process “extremist,” then I plead
guilty. There will be NO “krystalnacht” in this neck of the woods.92
Hardly the sort of respect for the law that one would expect from a
policeman, but quite the sort of thing we have grown to expect from the CIA.
5.5 The man who has a history of squabbles with other
anti-revisionists
5.5.1 Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger
Cecelia started off as a revisionist. She then became a very
passionate anti-revisionist and maintains an anti-revisionist Web site93 as
well as an anti-Ku Klux Klan site.94
She was always critical of Ken McVay and his colleagues. She described
her position in a long Usenet post dated 9 March 1994, an extract from
which makes it clear why she moved from revisionism to anti-revisionism and
the nature of her reservations about Ken McVay:95
. . begining in 1990, I have been going to certain, let’s say
“experts” and “tireless workers” in the areas of Holocaust education and
memorialization to ask what I can do and where and how for precisely this end.
And I got pigeonholed. I guess that anybody who happens to have a long and
strong REVISIONIST background, who has come to the opinion that she made a
mistake in disbelieving in gas chambers, etc, had already in her own, decided
to give it a try at believing in them to decide on more solid grounds than
mere “speculation” that it was true, and was asking to learn more and do more,
etc.
But since, to my back not to my face, I was “not to be trusted” (at
least this is what I assume), I was never given the chance to learn, interact,
etc.
So I one day had myself another Rude Awakening upon reading something
by Lucy Dawidowicz in which she misquoted a primary source (a primary source
that I was very familiar with) so badly that she made it apprear that the
source was saying the OPPOSITE of what she protrayed. UH, people have been
known to get their tenures revoked for such things – even when the mistake was
not intended – maybe a little “academic unfairness”, but that is the way it
works – ask Herb Needleman here at Pitt, the lead industry tried to
“persecute” him by making it look like he fudged research data, but thank
goodness the lead industry lost. So if that was an unintentional mistake of
Dawidowicz’s, then I forgive her for throwing me right back into being what
Deborah Lipstadt calls “a committed denier”.
Well, a little later, IN SPITE of the “expert” Holocaust educators and
memorializors, I learned some things from some of the Jewish Auschwitz
survivors that convinced me that there really WERE gas chambers, etc.
Other Revisionists do not have to agree with me on this, but I do hope they
will respect my having this as my own historical opiinion. I have no
intentions of shoving this down other people’s throats.
But this is STILL not good enough for the “experts” and the Ken McVays
and the ADL people, etc, etc. I guess my “failure” to want to be thier little
Ex-Denier Poster Girl or my “failure” to give them the name and address of
every “denier” I know so that so-and-so can be added to thier crap-list or to
“confirm” every pre-conceived notion of thiers of what terrible
NeoNaziAntiSemites “the deniers” all are was why I was “not to be trusted”
while another Revisionist, Jean-Claude Pressac, who like me also came to the
belief that there really WERE gas chambers, etc, is put up on a pedestal
because he wants to destroy, utterly destroy all of the people who “are
deniers” and to “confirm” every last pre-conceived notion that Beate Klarsfeld
and Shelly Shapiro’s got – be those notions consistent with his Revisionist
experience or be they very inconsistant with it.
On 23 March 1994, Cecelia wrote:96
Ken McVay, If you were posting things meant for me to respond to, and
I have been ignoring you, it is because you have been in my local kill file
for the past few months. I will take you back out in a few minites.
By 30 March 1994, her frustration at her lack of acceptance was
growing strong:97
I too need to morn[sic] and grieve the Holocaust in company of other
Holocaust BELIEVING people just like you big bad Holocaust Heros and
Promoters do. But no, I am forced to face it all alone because your prejudice
and discrimination bids you to “not trust me” (Hear Hear, Ed Overman!!!) or to
assume that “I am up to tricks.” Or that I am crazy – my assurtions that all
Revisionists are not (and do not want to be, but are being driven towards it
by YOU all) Jew-Haters – are too far beyong the realm of your own personal
constructs of reality to be true.
You therefore deem ME delusional instead of yourselves. I know how to
get some people OUT of “deep denial” (the Twelve Steppers, Anna Freud’s,
and my use of the term, not Lipstadt’s or the ADL’s hateful and derisive
usage, which the ADL STOLE off of me after I wrote the ADL in 1990 “a lot
of Revisionists are just simply in denial, not seething anti-Semites.” See how
they have twisted my intended usage of the term . . .
ALL I was doing was trying to PUT AN END TO REVISIONISM, you idiots,
but you could not accept MY personal testimony as to what happens and does
not happen “beyond its walls” – but of course if Ross or Gannon DARED to
doubt the personal testimony of Elie Wiesel or Mel Mermelstein, then they are
evil, but MY personal testimony can be scoffed at at will by you Heros.
On 18 May 1998, at which point our Cecelia was Cecelia Plechinger,
McVay made a somewhat dismissive remark about her. When asked whether
he knew her, he responded:98 ‘I have never met her, but know who you mean.
Are you suggesting that you are not a liar because she asserts I label liars
as liars?’
A few days later, on 24 May 1998, came the now famous explosion from
Cecelia:99
. . Ken, it is spelled “Cecelia” not “Cecilia.” You and I go back to
1991, before you founded Nizkor, Ken. You should know how to properly spell
my name.
And I am part of the history of Nizkor, Ken, yet you pretend to have
just barely heard of me.
I sent you in materials and you used them, but did not credit me as
the source.
These concerned much material on Willis Carto and some key information
on Fred Leuchter’s patents, engineering ethics, chemistry (to refute Fred
Leuchter’s claims) etc.
In fact, you ignored my material on Carto for many e-mails until one
day, one of them clicked something in you. *then* you posted a request to your
original subscribers) which went defunct long before the founding of Nizkor
asking for info on Willis Carto. Then after a while longer, due in significant
part, to the info *I* sent you on Carto, you then made him a very big project
of yours, the topic of a whole long FAQ even.
The stuff on Leuchter’s patents also received no ack from you. Yet,
one day long past, I was browsing the Jerusalem1 server in Israel and noticed
there was a section on Revisionism there. It was mainly or perhaps solely a
mirror of your pre-Nizkor anti-Revisionist website. I forget what you called
it.
THERE, under a subdirectory on Leuchter, was verbatim my e-mail to you on
Leuchter’s patents.
But the header was stripped off. See, Ken, you saw value in this
information, but you did not see value in me as the source. It was only after
I complained to your webmaster, Jamie McCarthy, that you revised that page to
include the original headers of the msg. For other e-mail msgs I saw on the
Jerusalem1 mirror such as ones from Danny Keren, you left the headers intact.
But mine? Oh well.
And the chemistry and physics material I sent you to refute Leuchter’s
claims, you totally ignored, so I gave up sending you additional material.
Yet, later, the same information appeared in your site with a Brian Harmon
being given great accolades by you for providing it to you. Brian did indeed
provide the info to you at a later date than I did, but it was the same info I
had offered to you.
>From Brian, it was not only worth your repeating, but you also saw fit
to give him credit. Yes, his was in more detail, but I think when he sent in
the initial stuff, you encouraged him to send in more, so he did. I was not so
fortunate to get encouraged.
Oh, and medical information I sent you to refute specific claims of
deniers you also ignored.
One time, I and Jamie McCarthy sent you material together (that I
obtained alone). This was concerning what “Murungu” means in Shona
(a southern African Bantu language – an Internet National Socialist used the
nickname of “Murungu” so that was why I offered to Jamie an explanation of
what this word means).
*This* you put on your Nizkor site. But the fact that Jamie was the
one I approached with the info instead of you made a difference.
Jamie eventually resigned from Nizkor. It was soon after that that
soc.culture.jewish.holocaust went dead. Jamie was doing the technical
work for you while you over-moderated the content. Without Jamie’s
technical help, you could no longer run soc.culture.jewish.holocaust, so you
let it lie fallow rather than let some other moderator take over to keep it
active.
Recently, soc.culture.jewish.holocaust came back to life. And guess
what. It is back under the care of one or more of the original founders —
that is, the people who ran it out of a University of North Carolina server
before they no longer had time to devote to it (and when you then took it
over).
Why, Ken, do you treat me like such dirt? I think it had a lot to do
with the fact that I want to empower and enable people while you want to
dominate and control. And the fact my learning style is to get varied info
>from a variety of sources rather than just mindlessly learn from just one (and
one on your exact wavelenght) has also a lot to do with it. And the fact that
I do not want to bite the head off of every Revisionist I meet or see has much
to do with it too.
My approach is far different than yours. I seek to understand and
elucidate while you seek to punish and reek revenge. I seek to prevent future
Revisionism before it starts by elucidating *why* people become Revs in the
first place and providing viable alternatives to satisfy the same needs such
people seek and find in Revisionism. You, by contrast, seek to hunt them down,
“expose” them, discredit them and equate each and every one of them with
hard-core Jew-haters.
I seek to humanize whilst you seek to dehumanize them.
Oh, and the fact that I know what Revisionism is (and is *not*) from
the *inside out* instead of from the outside letting my prejudices dictate to
me what is inside — that has a lot to do with it too.
I was potentially a very valuable resource to you, Ken. But you did
not want elucidation and alternatives and causes of Rev that do not fit your
preconceived notions.
(According to you, each and every person who becomes a Rev does so out
of evil motives, specifically, Jew-hating motives — but I posited motives
like trying to find relief from a Shoah that is too hard to bear and further
posited that Germans both American-born and European-born are at much
greater risk to become Rev’s due to a need to seek shelter from the guilt —
guilt which is big enought as it is, but gets amplified further by anti-German
bigots. THIS vital info YOU did not want to HEAR.)
If I had offered to name you names of all the in-the-closet Revs I
knew and to give you private personal information on the publicly-Revisionist
people I know (I mean information they would want kept private), maybe then
you would have seen me as a valuable resource, Ken. But this too is not my
style. I would relate other Revisionist’s experiences to you but with all
identifying information expunged. You did not like that Ken. Names, addresses,
employers you would have wanted. Traumatic anti-German childhood and young
adult experiences you did not want.
Along the same lines, you once put out a call for any information
anybody knows about Arthur Butz (a Revisionist who is also an engineering
prof). I offered you lots of info about what he has done engineering-wise and
professor-wise. I also has publicly-available family background info to submit
once I saw how you responded to the engineering and professor info. But you
just e-mailed me back with a rude letter saying you are not interested in the
engineering aspects of Butz. See, Ken, you only wanted DIRT on Butz. You did
not want NORMAL information that is essential for a full and complete
understanding of Arthur Robert Butz.
Interestingly enough, I later read Deborah Lipstadt’s chapter on Butz
in her “Denying the Holocaust”. Some of it was *wrong.* The correct info was
in the stuff I sent you and you pooh-poohed and in the stuff I was waiting to
send you, but did not. Seems like Lipstadt would have been interested in
seeing the stuff *before* her book went to press — it would have saved her
errors.
Have you been in contact with Lipstadt as she as still working on
“Denying the Holocaust”, Ken? See now how you could have received all
the info I had on Butz (not just the dirt) and then alerted Lipstadt about it.
Lipstadt could have then contacted me (that is, if you would have been
decent enough to credit me as the source) and seen what I had for herself
and then go and review the direct sources from whence I got the info in the
first place. These were not insider Revisionist sources. These were publicly
available sources. She could then have written the final draft of “Denying”
to reflect this all. Now, she has gone on record as making some basic errors
on basic biographical info on not only Butz, but also on App (to whom she also
devotes a whole chapter).
I then e-mailed you for advice on how I correct these errors without
making Deborah Lipstadt sound foolish. You pooh-poohed the notion that I
could be right and Lipstadt be wrong. To bad, Ken.
Actually I was wrong to have ever tried to seek such advice from you
in the first place. I already knew what you were like, but at the time, you
were for all practical purposes, all I had.
So, you unilaterally decided that my massive, but “normal” information
on Butz was not worth knowing and not worth passing on to scholars
researching Holocaust denial. But, I suppose, in addtion to thinking you
speak for each and every participant of
with the “us” meaning all the participants of the said NGs), you think can
speak for Lipstadt and also but make her decisions for her. Too bad.
So I had little value to you, Ken. Too bad. What I know, in the right
hands, is invaluable for the very same “combat the Holocaust deniers”
work you so sincerely and diligently devote yourself to. But your methodology
is so different from mine that I even had to put your phrase “combat the
Holocaust deniers” in quote marks because it is so different from what I feel
when I think of reducing the phenonomon of Holocaust denial. I do not want to
“combat” Holocaust deniers who are sincere disbelievers of the Shoah. I just
want to provide viable alternatives and to combat the *causes* of people
seeking solace or an outlet in Revisionism.
Thanks to people like you, Ken, there is at this time a dire poverty
of viable alternatives to Revisionism. Thanks to you and your ilk, people like
me and Werner Knoll are faced with two extremes — yours (which actually
deserves the label “Holocaust Lobby”) and radical Revisionism’s.
At the very same time you and your ilk seek to suppress the truth
about why we turn to Rev, some of those who run radical Revisionism (Carto,
Mark Weber, Hans Schmidt) understand *very well* the needs of people like
me, Werner Knoll, hundreds of thousands of American and Canadian Germans
to includeErnst Zu”ndel.
And they meet our needs and lure us into Revisionism (Zu”ndel was so
lured in Toronto years ago) with these met needs. Once there, an effort is on
to lure us into hard-core Jew-hating circles (they so lured Zu”ndel).
With me, all the further they got me was Revisionism. The “Holocaust
Lobby” then did much to drive me towards hard-core Nazism. It is only to my
credit I did not go. Don’t say if I resisted anybody could. I am made of some
pretty tough stuff.
If most people, including Ken, were subjected to what “the Holocaust
Lobby” subjected me to since 1990 when I first “came out,” they would be
neo-Nazis.
Like I said, this included Ken. I will not say all the things they put
me through here. Maybe I will publicly say it another time or in another
venue and maybe I will not.
With Werner, I cannot tell from just the few posts I read if he had
been lured as far as actually into Revisionism or not. But I can see that he
is “at risk.”
But Ken, with your posts, you are increasing the risk. “At risk” does
not mean “evil” either, Ken. Do not blame the victims. We too are victims
and survivors of the Shoah.
And I myself am also a victim from a Jewish point of view, Ken. But
you were so busy trashing me the ways the Germans part of my heritage
made me ‘at risk’ that you never even let me tell you I am also Jewish and
very much like a Hidden Child first generation Jewish Shoah survivor and
very much like a Second Generation Jewish Shoah survivor. It is your own
prejudice which did not let you see THESE traits in me, Ken. That plus the
fact you are a Goy.
The JEWISH rage in me never spoken about a huge portion of my people
cut off, my JEWISH mourning, you never heard. Had I gotten a different e-mail
account and showed you the Jewish rage and mourning within me, you would
have liked that other persona, huh, Ken.
But stuff like this (stated before the above paragraph) Ken, you do
not want to hear because according to your preconceived notions, we START
OUT AS hard-core Jew-haters and then pretend to be like normal people to
assimilate out and infiltrate normal society to inject our poison into it with
our “tricks of the deniers.” This is actually true for some people who *claim*
to be Revisionists such as Willis Carto. But for many of us, the exact
percentage I do not know due to lack of formal academic studies I would like
to see done, the truth is just the opposite of what you presuppose.
Lots of people start off with a pre-conceived notion, Ken, including
myself. But real scholars and real researchers and real advocates do not
selectively cleave to or selectively ignore new information that confirms or
denies respectively our preconceived notions and initial hypotheses. (If you
are such a great and wonderful real researcher and educator of the Shoah,
Ken, then how come you did not last very long on the academic holocaust
mailing list on a server at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), where
many real Shoah scholars and many real Shoah survivors participated?
(The list is now called
got unsubscribed by the owners or you unsubscribed yourself in disgust that
that real Shoah scholarship forum did not gobble up your polemics.
But you refuse to see many of the critical points I make in this post.
You have seen most of them in the 1991 to 1997 timespan (with a gap) many
times, so youhave had opportunity to consider them. And due to your refusal,
you actually drive more people into Revisionism or deeper into Revisionism or
into hard-core Jew-hatred with the very efforts you expend to “combat the
Holocast deniers/neo-Nazis.”
Such is a travesty. But such is also reality. People like you are part
of the real world we all have to deal with.
Cecelia Plechinger
In another, less well known post on the same day,100 she said:
Ken, in other NGs, you tried and perhaps still try (I have not visited
alt.revisionism and such in quite a while) to appoint yourself as the
spokesperson for all “correct” Shoah education, research, advocacy,
and such.
Yet, you represent only a portion of all Shoah educators, researchers,
advocates, etc.
However, Ken, we are a varied bunch, Ken. You do not speak for all of
us, yet you put yourself forth as doing so.
Notice I said you do not speak for *all* of us. You do indeed speak
for and reflect the views and methods of *some* people who are in the Shoah
ed, research, and advocacy field, but *only* some. Forsteh? (Yiddish for
“Get it?, Capice?, Understand?”). But, only *some.*
As much as I disagree with your tactics and attitude, I did not have
the chutzpah (Yiddish for “audacity”) to assert that you speak for *none*
of us. Yet you have the chutzpah to assert that Werner Knoll speaks for
nobody, not a single soul, in this NG
tsktsk, Ken.
Cecelia Plechinger
There appears to be no record of any response from McVay.
On 8 November 1998, John Morris commented of Cecelia:101
‘But I don’t think Ken ever trusted her.’
On 22 May 2000,102 Ken responded to a protest from Cecelia that
material that she had written ‘is not “utter bullshit”‘ with the terse
response:
‘Yes, it is, and was, utter bullshit
On the same day (22 May 2000), a much calmer Cecelia wrote:103
I certainly agree that some of Ken’s methods are counterproductive.
But Ken will be Ken, just like Pat will be Pat, and Cecelia will be Cecelia.
Cecelia
5.5.2 Sol Littman
The disagreement between Ken McVay and Sol Littman, Canadian spokesman
for the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, concerns strategy. Littman favours censorship
– denying people the right to be heard. McVay seems to favour smears and
intimidation. The two strategies are incompatible insofar as McVay needs his
opponents to be heard in order for him to identify them and misrepresent them
as part of the smearing and intimidation process. It might seem an odd sort of
disagreement, but these are odd people.
The disagreement, which had been simmering for some time, apparently
began to surface in a Usenet post by McVay dated 23 June 1996:104
I do not believe in banning books. Is that clear enough for you? The
7,000 people I have spoken to will probably tell you that, if you ask;
Bernie Farber will certainly tell you that, if you ask, and so will Karen
Mock; So will Sol Littman and Abraham Cooper, men with whom, I suspect,
there is no common agreement on anything, other than the monstrous reality
of the Holocaust and a patent a dislike for Nazis. Does that help?
McVay’s attack on Littman intensified with an article by McVay in
Electronic Frontier Canada, dated 23 July 1996.105
Sol Littmann suffers from Ostrich Syndrome
by Kenneth McVay, OBC ([email protected]) Tuesday, July
23rd, 1996
The July 19 article in the Vancouver Sun, “B.C. Internet provider is
the largest Canadian site for racist material” is alarming.
It is not the material found on the websites mentioned, nor the fact
that the host server is Canadian – nor indeed that the server is physically
located in BC – which give cause for alarm.
It is alarming because – either by deliberate design or by abject
ignorance – Sol Littman (and the Simon Wiesenthal Center [SWC] whom he
represents in Canada) is fostering and promoting the spread of the “Ostrich
Syndrome.”
Their actions represent a counter-productive denial of reality – akin
to the Ostrich burying its head in the sand.
Littman is quoted as saying:
“We found the longer you leave these groups unexposed, the longer
they fester and the more they infect others and the only way to deal with them
honestly and forcefully is to expose them to the light of truth.”
Yet the article concludes,
“Littman said he wants to see if Klatt will remove the groups from
Fairview voluntarily before the centre takes any other action.”
The only truth that seems to emerge from such a veiled threat is that
Littman has no understanding of the Internet. One is at a loss to determine
how removal of the “groups” from one Internet Provider’s server would in any
way “expose them to the light of truth.”
If Littman had any knowledge of the Internet, he would know that the
Nizkor Project [https://nizkor.org/] is an award winning website that is
accessed daily by hundreds. In addition to being a source for those who seek
information about the facts of the Holocaust, it is used as an electronic
resource for those who wish to “deal with [these groups] honestly and
forcefully” thereby exposing Lemire and many others – of whom Littman may
not even be aware.
Nizkor is arguably the “host” to more hate literature than any other
website.
Since we also include a link to the Zundelsite amongst others, will
Littman next be targetting Nizkor and demanding that we remove such links?
Or that we hide from public view the mountains of archived material which
meticulously documents and uses the “arguments” put forward by these groups
as instruments of their refutation and exposure?
If Littman and the SWC prefer to bury their heads in the sand while
engaging in this futile exercise in darkness, let them do so. But the
martyrdom they hand on a platter to Lemire and others whom they find offensive
stands in marked contrast to their failure to use the Internet on their own
website.
Conspicuously absent on the SWC website are links to the increasingly
growing number of useful resources for those who truly do wish to participate
in the battle to expose racist and anti-semitic groups on the Internet.
The Ostrich syndrome is far more dangerous to society than any white
supremacist group on the Internet. Such groups will fester in darkness, but
wither in light.
McVay launched another attack on Littman in a Usenet post dated 18
January 1998:106
Subject: Re: Free Speech is a dangerous thing.
From: [email protected] (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: 1998/01/18
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Newsgroups:
van.general,bc.politics,bc.general,can.politics,can.general
[In article <[email protected]>,
Jason Black wrote:
Free Speech is a dangerous thing.
> By Ernest & Elvena Slump
>In a press release Sol Littman of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute called
>Oliver BC the Hate Crime Capital of Canada and said BC harbors this
>capital. What do they base this claim on? Well, it seems we have a man..
The fascinating thing about the websites in question is that they are
already so marginalized that one can only wonder that Mr. Littman wants to
throttle them further. Marc Lemire’s “Freedom Site,” for instance, averages
under 100 hits a day, while the Nizkor site and mirrors receive over 10,000
hits a day, about 1500 of them to the home page. Cybrary of the Holocaust
now gets a million hits a month. The contrast is interesting, and suggests
that these sites are of little interest to anyone except those who maintain
them, and Mr. Littman, of course.
Mr. Littman, however, appears to be a man who would throttle anyone
who disagrees with his worldview – he doesn’t need “hate speech” to set
him off.
At a recent international symposium dealing with hate on the internet,
a participant from Washington, D.C., having heard Mr. Littman’s
patronizing paper on the subject of hate on the net, commented that Ingrid
Rimland, Ernst Zundel’s American parrot, would have had to invent Mr. Littman
had he not already existed.
Mr. Littman, discovering that this comment had been reproduced by Ms.
Rimland, in one of her regular diatribes, then wrote to a prominent member of
B’nai Brith (no, I don’t work for them, although Mr. Littman appears to think
that I do) and expressed the hope that I might be muzzled. Perhaps Mr. Littman
thinks that my comments were “hatespeech?”
It is fortunate that Canada’s Jewish community does not reflect his
desire to censor those with whom he disagrees – Mr. Littman, as I told him at
the Toronto symposium, scares me more than Zundel does.
The following day, 19 January 1998, McVay posted to Usenet an item
indicating that Littman had also been sniping at him, specifically, by trying
to undermine him in the eyes of B’nai Brith Canada (Nizkor’s fund
‘collectors’).107
Mr. Littman is an interesting man…. and he does indeed seem to
favour censoring not only hate sites, but indeed others who find his brand of
work with respect to the Internet distasteful.
I am reliably informed that the following letter was received at the
national office of B’nai Brith Canada in September of 1997, closely following
the international symposium on “Hate on the Internet.”
The letter, written under the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s letterhead,
contained the following text:
“Not only do we agree on almost all issues but we are also the subject
of the same opprobrium from those who disagree with us.
“What follows was originally put out on the Internet by Ken McVay
flunky Michael Stein and reissued by Zundel flunky Ingrid Rimland.
“Which brings me to the next question. On whose side are McVay and his
cohorts on? For some time I have wondered by B’nai Brith continues to give him
a platform when he avidly proposes policies which our respective
agencies oppose.
His site provides automatic links with almost all of the major
Holocaust deniers – all in the name of free speech!
“Let’s face it, McVay is a quirky loose cannon whose usefulness is
almost over.
If it weren’t for B’nai Brith he would be out of business.
“Sincerely, [signed] Sol Littman”
. .
If Mr. Littman really believes that my work would come to a halt
without the help and support of B’nai Brith, he is equally misinformed. It
would be interesting to know if this letter reflects an official position of
the Simon Wiesenthal Center.
An abbreviated version of the Usenet post was was subsequently posted
the Nizkor Web site.108
On 10 February 1999, Ken McVay sadly observed:109
‘Sol Littman doesn’t seem to like me much… hey, I can live with
that.’
In a Usenet response to Anthony Sabatini dated 13 June 1999, McVay
again attacked Littman:110
I think LIttman is out to lunch, and sensationalizes such cases in
order to promote his own agenda, but I also think that he has every right to
stand up in a free country and speak his piece. I gather you do not think he
has this right – granted in the Charter – is that correct?
As more than one Canadian jurist has pointed out, the issue of
Canadian “anti-hate” laws has already been settled – the Supreme Court has
settled it, and more than once. I still oppose those laws, but I don’t pretend
they aren’t constitutional when the SC has very clearly demonstrated that they
are.
I oppose those laws, Mr. Littman does not. Why does that bother you,
Mr. Sabatini? Would you like to shut Mr. Littman up, and deny him his
Charter rights?
Would that wet your whistle?
With that the issue appeared to die down.
5.5.3 Disagreement with unnamed supporters over management of Nizkor
A fascinating insight into a disagreement between Ken McVay and a
group of Nizkor supporters circa 1995- 6 is revealed in a Usenet post by John
Morris, an anti-revisionist academic from the English department of the
University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada on 17 December 2001:111
So far as I can tell, Nizkor is chugging along just fine.
But it isn’t a group project. It’s Ken McVay’s show. It was proposed
at one time (c. 1995-96) that control of Nizkor should be handed over to a
group of its volunteers. Since I wasn’t party to the discussions leading up to
the collapse of that proposal, the reasons that it never happened are not
entirely clear to me. But it didn’t happen, and Nizkor remains, as it always
has been, under the sole proprietorship of Ken McVay.
I was party to the drafting of a letter to McVay which, in retrospect,
must have looked to McVay like an ultimatum to stand and deliver. The upshot
is that many of those same volunteers started their own web project called The
Holocaust History Project.
Is it “classified information”? No. But there does seem to be a
gentleman’s agreement not to air dirty laundry in public since it involves, as
much as anything else, strong personality clashes among some of the
principals.
5.5.4 Argument with Yale F. Edeiken, David ‘Orac’ Gorski and John
Morris regarding use of personal information on supporters of revisionists
In 1999 a huge and very public row broke out on Usenet between McVay
and three of his (then) supporters. The individuals were John Morris,
mentioned above, Dr David Gorski, a cancer specialist from the US, and
Yale F Edeiken, a Jewish attorney from Pennsylvania. The row concerned
one Mr Scott Bradbury, an opponent of Mr McVay’s Nizkor. Yale Edeiken
was sueing Bradbury at the time (Edeiken lost eventually).
Edeiken obtained Bradbury’s personal details (address etc.) for the
purposes of legal action. Unfortunately, he also distributed them to
other individuals (see admission below). One of these individuals was Ken
McVay.
McVay posted the information briefly on his Nizkor site. Subsequently, Mr
Bradbury was made the victim of a ferocious campaign of harassment. The
argument concerned who was responsible for using Bradbury’s personal details
improperly.
Edeiken and McVay blamed each other.
The opening salvo began with a post from Ken McVay to alt.revisionism.
In this he made it clear that Yale F Edeiken sent him Scott Bradbury’s
personal information, including his address. McVay indicated that he
subsequently posted this address on his Nizkor site for about 90 minutes (it
was then acquired by a criminal third party, referred to generally as
‘Nazihunter’, who used it to harass Bradbury.
I don’t like posting email as a rule, although I confess I have done,
but I have received email I consider somewhat abusive from Mr. Edeiken,
and am compelled to respond, and to do so initially by sharing his outburst
with you:
I hope you’re you fucking son of a
bitch. I suggest you mae some response to this. Make it hard and make it fast.
–yfe
He includes a UseNet article (see
References, above) in which David Michaels apparently said (the article has
not arrived on my server yet):
Since you have just been roundly rapped over the knuckles by your
‘boss’, Mr McVay, for apparently conspiring to incite violence against a
poster in this newsgroup, I think that perhaps you should keep a low profile
lest the details of your sordid behaviour find their way to your superiors in
Pennsylvania. David
You may recall that Mr. Edeiken said “Make it hard and make it fast.”
and so I must. Here is my response, Mr. Michael: I am not now, nor have I ever
been, Mr. Edeiken’s boss. Further, Mr. Edeiken has no connection with the
Nizkor Project, and has not had one since mid-July, when I removed him from a
Nizkor mailing list. For 1998 and 1999, the only real connection Mr. Edeiken
had with Nizkor was making you look foolish with respect to the Himmler tape.
With respect to your interpretation of my words, I can only suggest
that you them again:
To be fair, one should also ask how nazihunter got the name and
address in the first place, shouldn’t one? Yale Edeiken distributed it to a
holocaust-history.org mailing list, and to a few, including me,
outside the list. If you are going to condemn nazihunter, as you properly are,
then should you not also ask what Yale hoped to achieve by distributing the
address in the first place? I posted it on Nizkor for about 90 minutes, until
I realized, on reflection, that it was the wrong thing to do, and deleted
it… so, in the end, it could have come from anywhere… but it originated
with someone who should have known better, as he himself had been the
target of a similar attack.
If that is what you feel Mr. Edeiken meant to achieve, that is your
opinion, one I am not prepared to share. However, I think it would have been
hypocritical of me to remain silent, all the while knowing where the
information came from, while others were being justifiably pilloried for
making improper use of it. Who is to be blamed more? The person wielding the
weapon, or the one who provided it? You tell me. [Posted and emailed]
This provoked the following response from Dr Gorski, using his
customary pseudonym ‘Orac’:113
And to what end do you wish to “share” this outburst with us? What
does it accomplish for you to break one of the primary rules of Netiquette?
What do you gain by it? Do you post EVERY abusive e-mail you receive to a.r?
Yale directed his “outburst” at you in private. Clearly, he’s pissed off at
you for some reason. He did not post it to Usenet for all to see, which he
could have done.
Presumably he so because he considered it a private matter. You should
have dealt with it privately, rather than publicizing it. Why are you
publicizing it?
[Denials that Yale works for Nizkor snipped]
. .
Who is more culpable, one who leaves a weapon in a public site,
accessible to anyone, knowing that anyone could pick it up and use it, or
someone who leaves a weapon in a private club among people he/she thinks
he/she can trust?
If your version of events is true, then that’s what we’re really talking
about, isn’t it, Ken? Basically, you’re glossing over the fact that it is
entirely possible that by posting Scotty’s address to Nizkor’s website, even
if only for 90 min, YOU were the one to provide “Nazihunter” with the weapon.
Surely you knew when you posted it to a public website that it might fall into
the wrong hands. At the very least, your action shows recklessness of a higher
degree than that you accuse Yale of. At the worst, it means you wanted the
information to be used, which is exactly what you seem to be accusing Yale of.
But back to your question: The person wielding the weapon is more culpable. A
person given a weapon does not have to pull the trigger and use it. He/she can
always say no.
The person providing the weapon may or may not have intended for it to
be used and may or may not have been able to predict whether anyone would
use it and may or may not have intended for the person receiving the weapon to
pass it on. That person, unless he/she knew that the weapon would be used or
passed on to someone who would use it, can be accused, at most, only of
cluelessness and maybe recklessness. The person who uses the weapon is
ultimately to blame for its use.
An unrepentant McVay made the allegation against Edeiken again:114
Mr. Edeiken posted private and confidential information to undisclosed
recipients, one of whom might be “nazihunter.” Did the source of this
private and confidential information understand that he was going to do this?
Did he approve the use of this private information in that way, prior to
releasing it, or did he release it for a specific purpose, one which had
nothing to do with mailing lists? Would it have been released, short of legal
action, had the holder of the information known that Mr. Edeiken was going
to release it to the public?
Edeiken admitted the charge but made excuses:115
I gave the information to a list of people who, almost without
exception have been the vicitims of threats of violence or criminal harassment
>from Bradbury.
If you ahve a problem with that, I could care less.
Edeiken denied that McVay had been his ‘boss’ in legal negotiations
between Nizkor and myself regarding a wager concerning the authenticity of
Himmler’s Posen speech tapes. Edeiken had said (in a post directed at me): ‘I
am a lawyer retained to represent a client. If you beleive that a cleint is a
lawyer’s “boss” then it is clear why you produced none to represent you. They
would not do so under those conditions.’ McVay replied thus:116
Actually, I never saw it that way. As I thought of how to respend to
Dr. Michael about this, it seemed to me that it was more of a collaborative
effort. I didn’t hire Mr. Edeiken to do it. I hadn’t thought there would be
any further discussion about the “challenge” after Giwer cut and ran, and Dr.
Michael’s request caught me off guard, so I turned to Yale and asked for help.
He volunteered. I accepted his legal advice – after all, he’s a lawyer. I
confess I did give Mr. Edeiken a $1 retainer, in August, 1996, but I suspect
it was used up long ago.
This provoked a furious response from John Morris to McVay:117
Yep. Sounds like Yale wasn’t worth much to you at all. I’ll bet that
made it a hell of a lot easier to stab him him in the back, didn’t it, you
cocksucker?
The upshot: Ken McVay denies any links between Edeiken and Nizkor:118
‘Mr Edeiken has absolutely no connection with the Nizkor Project.’
5.6 Incompetent and deliberately misleading research
This is evidently not the place to conduct a detailed analysis of
McVay’s Nizkor site. A few examples of Ken McVay getting his facts
spectacularly wrong should suffice to make the point that his research skills
are not of the highest quality.
5.6.1. NetGuide errors
An April 1995 complaint regarding Ken McVay and factual inaccuracies
reads as follows:119
Ken McVay . . . of Vancouver, Canada is a self-appointed, one man “hit
squad” on the Internet. He likes to call people names. Apparently, he is
willing to misrepresent the truth to accomplish his goals, which are to
discredit all who disagree with Jewish leaders’ claims about the “holocaust”
and policies regarding Israel. One recent example was a short story in
NetGuide magazine (we told you their activists are everywhere) written by Joel
Furr, a freelance writer. Our response to the article follows and is pretty
much self-explanatoty.
Will the magazine publish it?
April 1, 1995
Patrice Adcroft, Editor-in-Chief
NetGuide Magazine
Manhasset, NY
Dear Ms. Adcroft:
Joel Furr’s brief article (The Reich Stuff) featuring Ken McVay’s war
against “hate” traffic on the Internet in your Feb. 1995 issue needs
correcting.
First and foremost, the practice of using emotional buzz words to
denigrate those with whom one disagrees, e.g., “neo-Nazis”, “anti-Semites”,
“inept researchers”, and “incompetent liars” is a sure sign of the absence of
scholarship. McVay and Furr need to expand their vocabularies.
Second, their reference to an “old magazine” that carried an article
about “some Jewish politician making claims of a mass extermination of Jews
after World War I” lacked documentation. To what magazine and Jewish
politician were they referring?
Here’s the documentation they omitted: The American Hebrew of Oct. 31,
1919, published by the American Jewish Committee, carried a story by former
Governor of New York Martin H. Glynn. Its title was The Crucifixion of Jew
Must Stop! In Glynn’s article he referred to the figure of “six million” and a
“threatened holocaust”. This was just after World War I, not World War II.
Obviously, this was not an anti-Semitic publication but rather a Jewish
periodical, and Gov. Martin Glynn was not an anti-Semite.
Finally, The American Hebrew, ceased publication 39 years ago, not
50-60 years as McVay claimed. It appears that Mr. McVay should get his facts
straight before trashing others.
Sincerely,
[SMYRNA]
5.6.2 Misleading and out-of-context quotations
Unfortunately, Mr McVay is not just a poor researcher. He deliberately
sets out to mislead his readers by telling outright lies.
Smear no. 1 – Mr McVay charges me with ‘holocaust denial’
Ken McVay does not like me. He publishes files on me on his Nizkor Web
site.120
The file opens with the words: ”David Michael The true face of
Holocaust denial’.
This is interesting because I have never, in fact, engaged in
‘Holocaust denial’. Mr McVay’s statement is both false and defamatory.
I have made my position on ‘Holocaust denial’ very clear on a number
of occasions, not least in a Usenet posting responding to Michael Ragland
in May 2002:121
As I have stated several times, I do not ‘deny’ anything. I regard
‘the Holocaust’ as a newspeak term for a large number of events. Some of
them may well have occurred. Others, if you examine them — which you
evidently haven’t as you’ve confessed that you simply ‘intuitively knew that
the Holocaust had occurred’ — are ‘supported’ by rather weaker evidence.
Your attempt to imply that all these events must be either accepted or
rejected in toto is downright silly. Your assertion that I ‘deny’ these
events, when I merely ‘question’ them, is downright dishonest. As I have
pointed out to you before.
Smear no. 2 – Mr McVay charges me with Nazism
After this piece of – let us not beat about the bush – flagrant libel,
Ken McVay’s Web site continues to try to blacken my good name.
After a carefully snipped and edited quote from one of my more
controversial posts on American imperialism and the World Trade Center
attacks of 11 September 2001, Mr McVay continues by posting an even
more carefully edited extract from one of my Usenet posts that gives the
uncritical reader the distinct impression that I am a rabid Nazi:
Third, National Socialism was a revolutionary movement that was based
upon a wonderful dream. Forget the stories of corpses for a moment, Mr G,
and imagine a world very different from the world we inhabit today. Imagine
a world free from the wars that have scarred the face of this tired old planet
since the beginning of time; a world with no extreme poverty, with no disease,
with no exploitation of worker by employer, no jolting financial crises (with
the misery that such crises entail) — a world united in a common purpose and
a common vision.
Imagine a world free from the old conflicts, where worker and employer
strive side-by-side for the common good, where ‘Left’ and ‘Right’ are mere
historical anachronisms, where nation works peacefully alongside nation for
the greater glory of all the earth. Imagine, if you will, a world where,
through a process of artificial genetic selection, mankind has been enhanced
to heights undreamed of: when, year by year, mere human beings grow ever
closer to becoming gods.
Think of the beauty of those people, of their art, their music, their
literature. Think of their levels of culture, their humanity, their
nobility.
Now contrast this with the world that has been bequeathed to our
children as a result of that needless and miserable world war. Just pick up a
newspaper and look around you — look at what your ‘liberals’ and your
‘democrats’ have left to them. Look at the dull-eyed teenagers, drugged to
their eyeballs, staggering around bleak housing estates, their stereos blaring
drum-beats! What do they know of the glories of a Bruckner symphony, or the
heart-rending beauty of Nietzsche? What good have ‘democracy’ and ‘liberalism’
ever done for them, Mr G?
Answer me that! Look at Africa and Asia — thousands upon thousands of
square miles, characterized by war, starvation, famine, massacre, corruption,
decay, filth. What good have ‘freedom’ and ‘rights’ ever done for the
inhabitants of those miserable regions? Answer me that! What good is ‘freedom’
to a man who cannot afford to buy his daily bread? Tell me that, Mr G! Look at
the legacy of communism — the blood red claw that, even today, enslaves a
quarter of the world’s population. Think of the 200 million corpses — people
who died as victims of this evil claw, for no good purpose whatsoever. Now can
you honestly put your hand on your heart and tell me, in all sincerity, sir,
that you truly and without reservation believe that the world you and your
kind have bequeathed to future generations — the world that has given us
Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and the pathetic figure of William Jefferson Clinton, who
symbolizes all that is wrong with this earth — that you honestly believe that
this world you have left for us is better than our alternative? Can you
honestly tell me that the dream of a beautiful new world that I have outlined
above — the dream that inspired countless thousands of young Europeans to
flock to the National Socialist banner — is not worth fighting for? Can you
honestly tell me that it is not worth dying for?”
This is followed by what appears to be a link to the original Usenet
post, although as of December 2002 it did not work.
But doesn’t that quote really prove beyond all possible doubt that I’m
a raving Nazi? Well, actually it doesn’t. When the entire post is seen it will
be observed that my views were very different from what Mr McVay wishes
to deceive his readers into believing. The post is a lengthy response to a
series of questions posted by Dr David ‘Orac’ Gorski. I quote it in full, with
the exception of the headers and the opening material from earlier
exchanges in the thread. I include both Gorski’s questions and my
responses:122
Nice to see you putting up an argument, Mr G! And it’s a tough one
too.
Please read on.
> your true colors are that you tend sympathize with the philosophy
> and goals of National Socialism, aren’t they?
Philosophy — no. I don’t think National Socialism has a coherent
philosophy. That’s one reason why various attempts to revive it tend
to result in numerous factions forming. I do have a lot more time for the
approach of the early Fascisti. I like their pragmatism: they don’t
ask ‘how can I make my people serve my ideology’, but rather ‘which
ideology shall we apply here, now, in this particular instance, to serve my
people’. For me, politics is not a battle between ‘Right’ and ‘Left’
but between idealogues and pragmatists. That’s why I don’t share the doom
and gloom of many nationalists. I see a movement towards a far more
pragmatic approach in politics nowadays — a ‘fascistization’ of
politics. The gulf that separates, say, Tony Blair from Oswald Mosley
is not as great, in my view, as the gulf that separates Tony Blair from,
say, Anthony Wedgewood Benn, the dogmatist at the far ‘Left’ of his
Labour Party. But this has nothing to do with National Socialism.
As to whether I sympathize with the goals of National Socialism, the
honest answer is that I sympathize with some of them. Just as I
sympathize with some of the goals of libertarianism and even some of
communism. I’m a true eclectic. If a man talks sense, and if the sense
that he talks can serve my country, then he is worth listening to
whatever labels he applies to himself. Again, I’m following in the
tradition of the likes of Mr Mussolini and, to a lesser extent, Sir
Oswald Mosley (neither of whom were, at first, particularly
anti-Semitic, I should add). Both were prepared to follow the
traditional political routes only insofar as they served the nation.
When they ceased to do so, they adopted a more opportunistic,
pragmatic approach, albeit at considerable personal cost.
> But perhaps I have misinterpreted your intention. I’m only human, and
> Usenet often hides the subtle shadings of meaning that people intend when
> the post, leading to frequent misunderstandings. Perhaps, despite your
> many posts that suggest otherwise, you do not have National Socialist
> sympathies. If so, it’s really quite simple for you to prove me wrong. All
> you have to do is to answer these two questions:
>
> 1.) Do you in general believe in the philosophy or goals of National
Socialism?
Philosophy — no. Goals — some.
> 2.) Do you in general sympathize with the goals or philosophy of National
> Socialism.
Philosophy — sometimes. Goals — some.
> Two explicit “no” answers without prevarication or reservation, and you’ve
> proven me wrong.
Then I haven’t proven you wrong, but it doesn’t follow from the above
that I am a rampaging Hitler supporter. Let me show you why. Let’s
consider where I think the Nazis were right and where I think they
were wrong.
So where do I agree with them?
First, Dr Goebbels made very clear, in 1935, the absolute opposition
of the German National Socialists to communism. This position was
reiterated by Mr Hitler. It seems quite plain to me that communism has
caused immense suffering throughout the world this century. Estimates
of the numbers slaughtered in its name exceed 200 million. It has
enslaved vast swathes of territory; it has destroyed whole national cultures;
it has caused misery exceeding anything known to mankind. With the
lamentable exception of the Molotov–Ribbentrop pact, which I hope was
a ruse, the Nazis had an excellent record of dealing appropriately with
communists. They hanged them, shot them, strung them up from
lamp-posts.
And in so doing they have my complete support.
Second, the National Socialists were nationalists. At the end of the
day, nationalism, in the sense that I’d use it, is not an abstract
theory or set of propositions or ideology. It is love of one’s people
and homeland, and a desire to serve, preserve and enhance them.
Nothing more and nothing less. It is a sentiment, like love of one’s wife. It
cannot be justified or refuted, although, irritatingly, people keep
trying to justify it — and I dare say you’ve shot a few of them down
in flames in this very newsgroup! It does not entail hatred of other
nations, any more than your love of your wife or children or pet
hamster entails hatred of other wives of children or hamsters. It is more a
case : ‘this is MINE — this is what I love and shall defend’. Maybe I’m
just an old-fashioned Romantic, Mr G, but I sincerely love my homeland
and people, for all their faults, and would like to serve them as best
I can, not out of a wish for personal gain or to further any ideology,
but in the true spirit of public service. I recognize in the National
Socialists a similar spirit. How can I condemn in them a feeling that
is so strong in myself?
Third, National Socialism was a revolutionary movement that was based
upon a wonderful dream. Forget the stories of corpses for a moment, Mr
G, and imagine a world very different from the world we inhabit today.
Imagine a world free from the wars that have scarred the face of this
tired old planet since the beginning of time; a world with no extreme
poverty, with no disease, with no exploitation of worker by employer,
no jolting financial crises (with the misery that such crises entail) —
a world united in a common purpose and a common vision. Imagine a world
free from the old conflicts, where worker and employer strive
side-by-side for the common good, where ‘Left’ and ‘Right’ are mere
historical anachronisms, where nation works peacefully alongside
nation for the greater glory of all the earth. Imagine, if you will, a world
where, through a process of artificial genetic selection, mankind has
been enhanced to heights undreamed of: when, year by year, mere human
beings grow ever closer to becoming gods. Think of the beauty of those
people, of their art, their music, their literature. Think of their
levels of culture, their humanity, their nobility. Now contrast this
with the world that has been bequeathed to our children as a result of
that needless and miserable world war. Just pick up a newspaper and
look around you — look at what your ‘liberals’ and your ‘democrats’ have
left to them. Look at the dull-eyed teenagers, drugged to their
eyeballs, staggering around bleak housing estates, their stereos
blaring drum-beats! What do they know of the glories of a Bruckner symphony,
or the heart-rending beauty of Nietzsche? What good have ‘democracy’ and
‘liberalism’ ever done for them, Mr G? Answer me that! Look at Africa
and Asia — thousands upon thousands of square miles, characterized by
war, starvation, famine, massacre, corruption, decay, filth. What good
have ‘freedom’ and ‘rights’ ever done for the inhabitants of those
miserable regions? Answer me that! What good is ‘freedom’ to a man who
cannot afford to buy his daily bread? Tell me that, Mr G! Look at the
legacy of communism — the blood red claw that, even today, enslaves a
quarter of the world’s population. Think of the 200 million corpses —
people who died as victims of this evil claw, for no good purpose
whatsoever. Now can you honestly put your hand on your heart and tell
me, in all sincerity, sir, that you truly and without reservation
believe that the world you and your kind have bequeathed to future
generations — the world that has given us Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and
the pathetic figure of William Jefferson Clinton, who symbolizes all that
is wrong with this earth — that you honestly believe that this world you
have left for us is better than our alternative? Can you honestly tell
me that the dream of a beautiful new world that I have outlined above
—
the dream that inspired countless thousands of young Europeans to
flock to the National Socialist banner — is not worth fighting for? Can you
honestly tell me that it is not worth dying for?
So where do I disagree with them.
First, as I indicated above, there is a lack of clarity as to intent
and purpose. Most National Socialist publications that I have seen
nowadays lack any clear direction. They seem to consist merely of the
confused mutterings of their publishers, which range from the odd, to the
mystical, to the completely daft.
Second, there is a complete lack of any credible leadership. You have
only to witness the undignified way in which the so-called leaders of
the movement today conduct themselves in this newsgroup to see this.
That they should indulge in public squabbling in the face of the enemy
is unforgivable and shows that they are no hopers. Sixty years ago,
such quarrels between brothers would have been settled in private, if
necessary with the assistance of a well-placed bullet.
Third, I am persuaded that the National Socialist movement may, at
times, have participated in unjustified acts of brutality. This in no
way detracts from the fact that their enemies clearly did likewise,
and I do not lose sight of the fact that there was a war on, that ‘war is
war’ and ‘these things happen’, or that there was a strong degree of
disorganization, panic and resentment at times. Nevertheless, such
behaviour is quite inexcusable and, where it can be proven to have
occurred, it must be condemned unreservedly.
Fourth, I think that the National Socialists may, in the past, have
taken their use of the race concept to extremes. I don’t regard the
Jews as a ‘race’ but as a cultural group, although one that clearly tends
to attract adherents disproportionately from one particular ‘race’. I can
see how the concerns about Jewish influence may have arisen, and from
my own fairly recent encounter with the Jewish community, I must say that
I am struck by how true-to-life the Nazi stereotype of the Jews seems to
be I think the problem, however, is cultural rather than genetic. I
tend to strongly dislike most Jews whom I meet — they are arrogant,
aggressive, dishonest people. But I can think of several with whom I
formed good relationships, in three cases even friendships. This is
not to say that ‘race’ cannot be used as a relevant factor in political
decisions. Indeed, in Britain today, where 1 in 5 pre-school children
are of ‘mixed’ race, it is imperative that race SHOULD be used in
political decisions if our culture and way of life is to survive even
one century into the new millennium. But the concept must be used
SENSIBLY.
Fifth, a central feature of National Socialism was the fuhrer
principle and the need for loyalty to one man, Mr Adolf Hitler. I regret that
I would swear loyalty to no one other than myself. Mr Hitler was not
infallible. The fact that he managed to lose the most important war of
all time is clear evidence of this.
So, you see, Mr G, I think that there is good and bad in it. As with
most political movements. The trick, methinks, is to preserve and
enhance the good while doing away with the bad. In other words,
pragmatism should rule.
> I’m sure you can do that little thing just to prove my assertion wrong,
> can’t you? (Of course, just remember that if you decide to do so
> insincerely just to make me look bad it’ll certainly come back to haunt
> you later when you post something that contradicts your answers to these
> questions…)
Well, I know there’s always a temptation to label things. I think
labels usually tend to oversimplify and hence distort. It depends what you
want to do. If you want to smear me, then I suppose applying the ‘Nazi’
label is as good as any. If you want to accurately classify me for some
obscure purpose, the ‘Nazi’ label would not fit particularly well.
> >Do you disagree with me on this point? Why?
>
> For the most part, yes, I do disagree. The primary purpose of Germany’s
> war was not primarily to “save the world” but to secure Lebensraum for
> Germany in the East, as described in MEIN KAMPF. Later, when it became
> clear that Germany was losing the war that it had started, the only thing
> the Nazis were trying to save was their hides.
I think they were trying to save the world from Bolshevism, from what
they saw as Jewish influence, and from a variety of other ‘degenerate’
forces. Certainly they wanted to secure Lebensraum and I think they
wanted to rectify what they saw as unjust conditions imposed upon them
by brute force at the end of the First World War. If you can let me
know precisely what it is you disagree with in this I’ll fish around and
try to find some documented backup for it.
Now what I was saying there might have been controversial, but it was
not the uncritical endorsement of Nazism that Mr McVay would like his
readers to think that it was. Since that time I have modified my views
somewhat and nowadays I have more in common with the national-anarchists
than the Fascisti. In particular, I am now convinced that imperialism, strong
leaders, powerful states and the repression of political opponents is not the
way forward. In particular,I have become convinced that it is indeed possible
to work with certain communist and other radical groups against the common
enemy of the current age, which I regard as American imperialism. I have
posted this often to alt.revisionism, which Mr McVay and his supporters read,
but Mr McVay continues to mislead his readers on the question of what I really
think.
Smear no. 3 – Mr McVay charges me with neo-Nazism and criminality
Mr McVay posts on his Web site transcripts of allegations made by
Yale F. Edeiken in his lawsuit against Scott Bradbury.
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These allegations make the following reference to me:123
9. Defendant Scott Bradbury has participated in campaigns of threats,
defamation, forgery, and harassment in order to intimidate and harass
his opponent and prevent them from exercising their rights of free speech.
10.
Defendant Scott Bradbury has assisted and/or obtained the assistance
of others in said campaigns, including but not limited to David E. Michael,
Donald Ellis,
and “Pat Blakely.”
. .
25. Since the filing of this lawsuit Defendant Scott Bradbury
increased his efforts to harass and threaten Plaintiff and to distribute false
and defamatory information about him in an effort to intimidate Plaintiff. 26.
Defendant has been assisted in this effort by David E. Michael and Donald
Ellis publishing material either under their own names, pseudonyms, or
anonymously.
Mr McVay is here citing material accusing me of, inter alia, criminal
offences.
Let it be placed on record that I have not been found guilty of, or
charged with, any criminal offence at any time in my life. I have not even
been charged with the crimes of which Mr McVay accuses me. McVay has
claimed that he was merely reporting Mr Edeiken’s allegations, which were
in a court (and thus were protected from libel action). However, I am advised
that in so reporting them, and particularly in the way in which he has
repeatedly posted them to Usenet newsgroups, Mr McVay is engaging in libel.
It should be noted, in particular, that Edeiken’s lawsuit was thrown out on
appeal. Mr McVay makes no note of the fact that Edeiken had every reason to
tell outright lies about me as I too had defeated him in a lawsuit that he
brought against me in Pennsylvania.
Additional defamatory material is published in another part of Mr
McVay’s report of Edeiken’s allegations:124
15. Defendant is supported and assisted in his campaigns of harassment
as aforesaid by various accomplices who Plaintiff believes and therefore
aversinclude, inter alia:
16. The aforesaid campaigns arise from Defendant;’s pathological hatred of Jew
and/or any person opposed to his pathological hatred and are conducted
maliciously, wantonly, wilfully, and recklessly by the Defendant and his
accomplices and in outrageous disregard of the rights of his victims with the
specific purpose of intimidating and silencing his opponents, intentionally
causing them mental distress, anguish and grief, and adversely affecting their
reputation in the communities in which they reside.
17. That such purpose and intent of Defendant is known to Defendant’s
accomplices who actively support Defendant’s goals and purposes and assist
him in stalking his victims during his campaigns of harassment, defamation,
and intimidation.
18. Such agreement on the part of his accomplices includes the ethnic
prejudice and hatred that motivates Defendant.
19. That said accomplices include, inter alia: a. David E. Michael, a British
neo-Nazi and denier of the Holocaust who is an adherent of and/or organizer
for the neo-Nazi British National Party.
As argued above, as well as being quite innocent of the criminal
charges made against me by Mr Edeiken and Mr McVay on Web sites and in
Usenet groups but not to the police, I am neither a ‘neo-Nazi’ nor a ‘denier
of the Holocaust’.
5.6.3 Plain incompetence – my biography
For a brief period of time Ken McVay posted on his Nizkor site a small
‘biography’ of me. Why he should seek to do this is a matter for
speculation.
McVay removed it fairly rapidly and it was not archived by the
Internet Archive Wayback Machine (as at December 2002), so the only evidence
that it ever existed is the exchange that it generated on Usenet. This
consisted of an original postby me:125, and responses by Steven Mock,126
Michael Ragland127 and two posters using pseudonyms.
My contribution to this thread highlighted the errors. My post read as
follows:
In his latest (rather pathetic) attempt to intimidate me into silence,
Ken McVay’s ‘Nizkor’ website now posts an interesting little ‘biography’
of me.
This is at:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//m/michael.david/references
1981 – Campaign for More Democratic Student Representation
(Age 18)
Federation of Conservative Students
1982-1984, Active member of the National Front, reputedly
associated closely with Andrew Brons, who was and still is a university
lecturer. (Brons subsequently left the National Front, and disassociated
himself from far-right activity.)
1981-1984, philosophy student, St. Andrews University
1988, graduated Keele University; PhD Clinical Psychology. Not
believed to be working in the field.
Errors include:
* wrong age given in 1981 (I was born in summer 1962) [an interesting
error — this, together with the other errors about my academic
background, suggests that Ken got this info not from the university itself
(which would either have given accurate information or told him to piss off)
but rather via the good Gerry, who has links with Special Branch, the
executive wing of MI5];
* Brons was not a university lecturer — he was a polytechnic lecturer
(I wasn’t particularly close to him either, although we inevitably worked
together on a couple of minor projects so I can see how that
impression might have arisen);
* wrong dates given for NF membership;
* I was not, in fact, a philosophy student at St Andrews University
>from 1981 to 1984;
* I did not graduate from Keele University with a PhD in clinical
psychology.
It appears that Nizkor is about as accurate in its information about
its opponents as it is about the history of World War II.
David
(For the record, I have a MA(Hons) in psychology and a PhD in the
psychology of instructional text and graphic design. I did indeed also study
philosophy, but not from 1981 to 1984 at St Andrews.)
5.7 The Nizkor funding controversy
There are two elements to this: McVay’s relationship with B’nai Brith
Canada and McVay’s relationship with the American San Antonio Foundation.
5.7.1 Nizkor’s official position re. B’nai Brith Canada
The following is currently (December 2002) posted on Nizkor’s Web
site:128
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism, racism
and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B’nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer, you
can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o
The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
After the form it continues:
Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the cheque’s
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation be
invested for Nizkor’s future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft with
the notation
‘For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests should be to the
‘Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith
Canada’.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
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5.7.2 The allegation re. B’nai Brith Canada
Allegations regarding ‘problems’ concerning the manner in which Nizkor
receives monies from B’nai Brith Canada come thick and fast on Usenet. They
not usually particularly clear. However, the following allegation, which I can
neither verify nor refute, was posted anonymously to Usenet by someone who
evidently does not like Jews but nevertheless manages to outline the gist of
what is perceived to be the difficulty more clearly than most:129
It works like this:
McVay wants money, and solicits donations for Nizkor.
Problem: Potential donors want a tax receipt, and as McVay’s Nizkor is
a *for-profit* enterprise, he is powerless to *legally* issue such a
receipt (which provides a tangible financial benefit to potential donors).
No receipts = fewer donors, potentially leaving McVay faced with
having to choose between eating macaroni & cheese, and paying his server fees.
:- (
Luckily for McVay, Jews LOVE the little pro-Jewish holocaust
propaganda machine that their favorite Shabbos Goy has cooked up, as they
stand to benefit when the public sympathizes with the image of “Jewish
Suffering”. (Oy Vey!)
The Jewish B’nai Brith Canada knows well the PR value of the
“Holocaust”, and wants to see McVay’s propaganda machine succeed, so
they agree to *launder* intended for Nizkor through their “non-profit”
organization, and issue tax receipts, which will give incentive to McVay’s
potential donors.
Problem solved: McVay instructs potential donors to make checks
intended for Nizkor payable to a *third party*, B’nai Brith Canada, and is
thus able to promise these potential donors that a tax receipt will be issued.
Being extremely grateful for McVay’s “work”, B’nai Brith gladly issues
a tax receipt to the ‘donor’, and passes the monies on to McVay (less a 5%
handling fee, of course. After all, they’re not THAT grateful, and they ARE
Jews, aren’t they?). o:-)>
So in the end, everyone wins: McVay gets his ‘donation’, the ‘donor’
gets his tax receipt, and B’nai Brith gets their pro-Jewish holocaust
propaganda (and 5% of the gross). The only one who gets screwed is the
Canadian Taxpayer, because if a ‘donor’ decides to give McVay’s Nizkor
$1,000.00, and is issued a tax receipt for that amount by B’nai Brith, only
$50.00 will actually STAY with the non-profit that issued the receipt, with
the balance of $950.00 going directly to the for-profit Nizkor (McVay), as per
their previous agreement.
To put it another way, the Canadian Taxpayer is screwed out of the tax
revenue on $950.00.
This is money laundering in its purest form.
Is this illegal? Probably. (if it isn’t, it should be)
Is it fraudulent? In my opinion, definitely:
1) Because McVay offers tax receipts for ‘donations’ to Nizkor,
potential donors are likely *led to believe* that Nizkor is a non-profit
enterprise. It is NOT.
Many donors are likely duped into believing they are contributing to a
non-profit organization.
2) B’nai Brith is issuing non-profit tax receipts for monies intended
for Nizkor, and per prior agreement, 95% of these monies will in fact be
passed directly to Nizkor, a for-profit enterprise. Canadian taxpayers are
cheated because tax receipts have been issued by B’nai Brith which were for 19
times the value of the monies actually retained by a non-profit enterprise.
Conclusion:
(In my opinion) Ken McVay and B’nai Brith Canada have conspired to
dupe potential donors to Nizkor, and to fraudulently cheat the Canadian
taxpayer.
The same poster (‘Waldo’) had made a similar allegation on 19 May 2001
in a Usenet post:130
On May 15, 2001, an article entitled “$60 MILLION JEW FRAUD!!!” was
posted to alt.revisionism. Within the article was a news story that
reportedly ran in Montreal Gazette, on Thursday 21 September 2000. The
headline read:
“Huge tax scam exposed
Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions”
The story gave details of how a Hasidic Jewish organization known as
Construit Toujours had defrauded the Canadian government by selling
$60 million dollars in fraudulent tax receipts to Jewish individuals and
businesses who donated to the organization.
In an apparent quid pro quo, the non-profit Construit Toujours would
solicit donations from members of the Jewish community, and in turn issue the
donors Canadian tax receipts for five times the actual amount contributed.
In this win/ win scenario, Construit Toujours benefited from the
receipt of the actual donation, and the donor would benefit by receiving tax
deductions that, according to the article, were worth more than 2.5 times the
amount actually donated.
Everyone benefited – except of course, all other Canadian taxpayers,
who were forced to make up for the tens of millions of dollars worth of
tax deficit caused by this fraud.
This brings to mind the situation currently faced by Nizkor, or “The
Nizkor Project”, a Toronto area based website run by Ken McVay.
Nizkor is a pro-Jewish organization which, according to their website
is “Dedicated to the millions of Holocaust victims who suffered and died
at the hands of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime”.
The thrust of Nizkor’s mission appears to be keeping the Holocaust at
the forefront of the public mind, and battling so-called “Holocaust
Deniers”:
Revisionist historians, or anyone else who would dare publicly
question the generally accepted “facts” of the German holocaust against
European Jewry in the 1930’s and 40’s.
While the defense of the Holocaust might appear to be a noble cause,
there are serious questions with regard to the source of Nizkor’s funding:
Ken McVay has stated publicly on numerous occasions that Nizkor is *not* a
non-profit organization, yet the organization offers a Canadian tax
receipt to any donor who contributes ten dollars or more to the Project.
>From the Nizkor website:
“Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]”
https://nizkor.org/league-donation.html
How does an organization which admits to being a for-profit enterprise
issue
Canadian tax receipts?
It seem that Nizkor has developed a “cooperative affiliation” with the
pro-Jewish “League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada”, which is
described by Nizkor as a “national volunteer organization dedicated to
combatting antisemitism, racism and bigotry, and to promoting human
rights
for all Canadians”.
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/league.htm
The League for Human Rights, it appears,*is* listed as a non-profit
organization, and is accepting contributions, and issuing Canadian tax
receipts on the behalf of Nizkor, a for-profit organization.
This raises some very serious questions:
What exactly is the nature of the “affiliation” between Nizkor and the
League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada?
How are the monies received by the League for Human Rights of B’nai
Brith Canada on Nizkor’s behalf distributed and accounted for? Is there a
quid pro quo?
Does the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada retain a
portion of the funds it collects on Nizkor’s behalf?
Do Ken McVay and Nizkor pay taxes on monies funneled through the
League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada, and for which Canadian tax
receipts were issued to donors?
Because Canadian tax receipts are offered for monies donated to
Nizkor, donors may be convinced that they are contributing to a non-profit
organization, while Ken McVay has denied Nizkor’s non-profit status on
numerous occasions. Does this practice not give the appearance of
fraud?
On what grounds can Nizkor, a for-profit organization, justify funding
its operations and paying its staff at the expense of the Canadian
taxpayer?
What sets Nizkor apart from any other for-profit enterprises who might
enjoy the benefits of receiving funds that are funneled through a non-profit
organization?
For example, would it not be beneficial to the proprietors and clients
of a Law or Consulting firm to establish an “affiliation” with a non-profit
organization through which all monies could be funneled, and tax
receipts issued?
The non-profit status of organizations are unfortunately abused on a
regular basis. Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly recently uncovered allegations that the
Rev. Jesse Jackson used tens of thousands of dollars collected under
Jackson’s non-profit Rainbow Push organization to pay off his mistress who
bore their illegitimate child. Thus far, the IRS has not investigated Jackson.
In the Construit Toujours case, the Jewish organization was stripped
of its right to issue tax receipts, and fined $400,000, while the “donors” to
the organization were to face criminal charges, and would be forced to
repay the taxes they evaded in the fraudulent scheme.
Are Ken McVay/ Nizkor, and the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith
Canada of guilty of similar fraud or impropriety?
It is painfully obvious that funds earmarked for Ken McVay’s
for-profit Nizkor are being funneled through the League for Human Rights of
B’nai Brith Canada, and that Canadian non-profit tax receipts are being issued
for funds that are intended to benefit a for-profit enterprise.
Both Ken McVay/ Nizkor and the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith
Canada owe the taxpayers of Canada a complete and detailed explanation of
their handling of the funds earmarked for Nizkor. Furthermore, the Canadian
Federal Revenue Agency should conduct a thorough investigation of both
organizations.
Waldo
Observer at LargeIt is also sometimes pointed out that B’nai Brith
Canada has been associated with financial sleaze. Former national
vice-president of B’Nai Brith Canada, Harry Bloomfield, is a convicted
criminal found guilty of charges related to conspiring to aid crooked clients
in breaching securities regulations and tax laws. (Brent Mudry, ‘Pertacal ex
Bloomfield convicted in major offshore prosecution’, Stockwatch 21 November
2001).
5.7.3. McVay’s responses to the attacks
McVay’s responses to the attacks were dismissive. In a 21 May 2001
Usenet post, for example, he wrote:
‘What “for-profit organization” might you be referring to, Bubba? The
Nizkor Project? A website?’131
In another post of the same date, he wrote:132
If you feel that the law is being broken, then your duty is clear –
you must report me, forthwith, to Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.
Do let us know what the result is, won’t you, Bubba?
However, McVay asserted that Nizkor and McVay did not issue tax
receipts in the following post:133
Mr. Bradbury’s problem seems to be that he believes that Nizkor or Ken
McVay issues tax receipts, in spite of having been told that this is not
true. Mr. Grosvenor has made the same rather stupid claim since 1996,
but has yet to provide the proof… heck, I even told Grosvenor _exactly_
how to prove his case, and he ran for the hills . . . he’s STILL running. So
I’ll make the same offer to Mr. Bradbury: Donate $10 to Nizkor, using the
form provided, and when you receive your receipt, send it to the Government
of Canada in support of your (libelous) claim. Tell them that the receipt
“proves” that Ken McVay and/or Nizkor issues receipts. As I’ve said before:
Mr. Bradbury is not only too stupid to understand the answer, Mr. Bradbury is
too stupid to understand the question, too.
5.7.4 The San Antonio Fund
The clearest description of Nizkor’s relationship with the San Antonio
Fund was given by the anti-revisionist John Morris in a Usenet post:134
The San Antonio Area Fund is an umbrella organization that puts
philanthropistsin touch with charitable and non-profit organizations in need
of funds. Here is the address of their website:
http://www.saafdn.org
The San Antonio Area Fund – Nizkor Fund was established in the
mid-1990s to create a charitable funding source for Ken McVay’s Nizkor
Project.
Shortly after the SAAF-NF was established, the principals severed their ties
with McVay.
Except for the former registrant of holocaust-history.org, it is
unlikely you will find any connection between SAAF-NF and Nizkor after about
1997.
In fact Nizkor appears to have started soliciting US donations through
its SAAF connection in or around August/September 1996.135
In June 1997, McVay confirmed that ‘The ADL is an American
organization.
American funds donated to The Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio
Area Foundation’.136
In January 2001, McVay made the rather surprising statement that:
‘The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within
the United States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received
any money from the “San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund’.137
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Mr McVay’s assertion that he has never received any money from the San
AntonioArea Foundation was apparently refuted by an article in a San Antonio
newspaper, the San Antonio Express-News dated 3 August 1996:138
Internet project won’t let Holocaust be forgotten Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer >>
“Nizkor” in Hebrew means “we will remember,” but it is also a solemn
promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet so
that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now his task has
gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San Antonio
Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site
directed by the 55-year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island,
Canada.The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler’s bloody
pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of “deniers” (as McVay
calls them). . .
(At this point the astute reader might also recall the 8 May 1996
article in Edmonton Jewish Life, cited above, which said that McVay ‘lives on
a modest monthly income of $1500, from a trust fund set up by some wealthy
people who’ve been very generous and mostly plain folk . . .’)
The San Antonio Area Foundation Annual Report 2000 also records a
donation given to Nizkor, further calling into question Mr McVay’s honesty on
financial matters139 (and apparently refuting Mr Morris’s speculation that
links between Nizkor and the Foundation had been severed in 1997).
Moreover, Nizkor has two servers based at San Antonio in the US,
which, as at 17 December 2002, were functioning:
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/
http://www1.us.nizkor.org/search.html
This clearly refutes Ken McVay’s assertion that ‘The Nizkor Project
has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United States.’
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The above apparently shows that McVay knowingly, deliberately and
fraudulently misrepresents the financial and organizational activities of
Nizkor.
Should the San Antonio Area Fund have been funding McVay? The answer
appears to be a clear ‘no’. Their Web site contains a section headed ‘what we
do not fund’.140 This states, inter alia, that they do not fund
Individuals
or
Political activities and organizations or any propaganda efforts
intended to influence legislation
Both of these categories seem to rule out funding for Mr McVay’s
Nizkor. Yet, apparently, he received $50,000 of donors’ money.
We do not know if the donors are aware of this. We do not know if the funds’
principals are aware of this. We do not know if Mr McVay has returned the
donors’ money. We do not know whether he has been requested to return their
money.
Readers are invited to contact the fund at:
San Antonio Area Foundation, 110 Broadway, Suite 230, San Antonio,
Texas 78205, telephone: 210-225-2243, fax: 210-225-1980, e-mail:
[email protected], to try to find out.
I sent an e-mail on 8 December 2002 asking the San Antonio Fund about
its support for Nizkor. As at 20 December 2002 my e-mail had received no
response, from which I deduce that they’d rather not talk about it. Perhaps
their donors might like to talk about it – especially the $50,000 of their
money apparently pocketed by Mr McVay.
5.7.5 Ken Lewis’s response to the attacks
Nizkor supporter Ken Lewis gave a response in which he states, inter
alia:141
. . lets see if we can recap and put this to rest.
1) The San Antonio Foundation is not connected to Ken in anyway.
2) There is no facility whereby citizens of the US can make a tax
deductible
donation to Nizkor.
3) Nizkor is a website.
4) Nizkor is not an organization.
5) Nizkor is not a non profit organization nor a charity.
6) Nizkor does not issue Canadian tax deductible receipts.
7) Anyone wishing to make a donation to Nizkor may do so using the
format suggested in funding.shtml on the Nizkor site. (Now pay attention here
Scott. This is where it gets interesting.)
8) B’nai Brith is a non profit organization or a charity (I don’t
recall which).
9) B’nai Brith is allowed to issue tax deductable receipts.
10) Money donated to B’nai Brith and marked for Nizkor go into an
account for Nizkor (Ken McVay).
11) B’nai Brith is allowed by Canadian Law to issue a tax
deductable receipt for the money THEY received with the request it be
given to Nizkor.
12) NPO’s and Charities may dispose of their money in any fashion they
see fit.
13) B’nai Brith chooses to give the money they get with the request it
be given to Nizkor to Nizkor.
14) In all cases above where Nizkor is used we are speaking of a
person – Ken McVay.
15) Since Nizkor is not an organization, any money donated to ‘Nizkor’
and received by Ken from B’nai Brith must be claimed as revenue on Ken’s
personal income tax.
And there you have it, Blubberbury. The whole kit-n-kaboodle. Nothing
illegal.
Nothing suspect.
The problems with Mr Lewis’s response will now be evident to the
reader.
5.7.6 Is Nizkor really just a Web site and not an organization
Is Ken Lewis correct in asserting that Nizkor is merely a Web site and
not an organization?142
Certainly, another Nizkor supporter, Sara Salzman (Schwarz) takes a
similar line:143
‘Nizkor has NO employees. Period.’
Ken McVay himself has propounded the ‘Nizkor is just a Web site’ line
vigorously:144
Nizkor is a website, not a club. Nizkor does not have “members.”
Nizkor has volunteers, Nizkor has contributors, Nizkor has supporters, but
Nizkor does not have members, and one cannot “join” Nizkor. Sara Salzman is
not only a contributor and supporter, but a major contributor, having provided
thousands of pages of HTML during the past 6 years. A “member” she isn’t. A
g*dsend, but not a member. Ain’t no such animal here.
And again:145
‘Nizkor is neither a charitable organization or an NPO, that it is, in
fact, a website.’
The following points seem to refute the view that Nizkor is merely a
Web site, as opposed to an organization with a Web site.
1. Mr McVay repeatedly refers to himself, and is referred to by his
supporters, as the ‘director’ of Nizkor. (See, for example, the front page of
Nizkor’s main site at https://nizkor.org.) It is strange that a Web site, which
is supposedly not an organization, should have a ‘director’.
2. The mysterious Golan Klinger,146 founder of Vex.net, also refers to
himself as being ‘on the board’ of Nizkor. It is interesting, nay remarkable,
that a Web site, which is supposedly not an organization, should have a
‘board’. (Klinger is also on the board of iComm). Vex.net gives its address as
The Cain Gang Ltd,
207 Gamble Avenue, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M4J 2P4, tel.
+1-416-609-1502,
+1-416-425-1212, fax +1-416-424-2738.147 It will be noted that Ken
McVay has an e-mail address with Vex.net and that Vex.net also hosts the Web
site of B’nai Brith Canada.148
3. As a result of Usenet discussions between myself , McVay and Yale
F. Edeiken, negotiations were entered into between myself and these
individuals regarding a possible wager between myself and Ken McVay/Nizkor
over the authenticity of tapes purporting to be recordings of Himmler’s famous
‘Posen speech’.
McVay asked Edeiken to produce a draft contract contractualizing the wager.
According to Nizkor’s own Web site, this was ‘approved by Nizkor’s Director,
Ken McVay’ and was ‘delivered to Mr. Michael [sic] on March 9, 1999, for his
consideration’.149 The very first paragraph of this draft contract
reads thus:150
The Nizkor Project (hereinafter “Nizkor”), an unincorporated
organization based in Canada and David Michael (hereinafter “Michael”) a
citizen and resident of the United Kingdom hereby agree to jointly have the
recording of the speech made by Heinrich Himmler before officers gathered in
the Polish city of Posen in October 1943 and entered into evidence at the
trial before the IMT of major war criminals at Nuremberg and currently held by
the U.S. National Archives analyzed by a recognized laboratory specializing in
voice print analysis to determine whether the voice on said tape-recording is
that of Heinrich Himmler.
Now if Nizkor is not, as Mr McVay repeatedly protested, an
organization but merely a Web site, why did a draft contract approved by McVay
state quite explicitly that it was ‘an unincorporated organization based in
Canada’? And what was a Web site doing negotiating to enter into a contract?
Even if the above does not show conclusively that Mr Kenneth McVay,
director of Nizkor, is a criminal, it does illustrate conclusively that he is
a very, very dishonest man. Quod erat demonstrandum.
5.8 Encouragement of denial-of-service attacks on opponents
In 1997, Ingrid Rimland provided the world with the following exposure
of Nizkor’s encouragement of cyber crime against its opponents.151
Here is a telling follow-up on electronic terrorism involving none
other than Nizkor. Be sure to read it carefully – and act on it if you are so
inclined.
You will remember the massive e-mail attack aimed at our
California-based server, Web Communications, in mid-December. For 40 hours
straight, an automatic mailer fired three words – “Denial of Service” – at the
rate of 200 e-mail messages per second at Webcom – an attack which amounted to
a staggering 28.8 million letters.
This electronic bombardment shut down the Webcom system and crippled
3,000 websites during the busiest weekend of the Christmas season. The
damage to customers of Webcom must have been in the hundreds of thousands if
not millions of dollars.
This was the second time that Webcom has been so attacked. The first
attack came out of Germany via Deutsche Telekom a year ago in response to an
announced and then hotly denied “debate” with the notorious Holocaust
Promotion website, Nizkor – a website opposing Revisionist websites on grounds
that Nizkor’s function is to serve the memory of those who died in the
“Holocaust” whom we are wantonly defaming.
Now keep in mind as you read the information below that Nizkor issues
tax deductible receipt via a certain charitable outfit to people who
support their work. The outfit that collects donations for Nizkor in Canada is
called The Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society. In the United States,
donations in support of Nizkor are being made payable to San Antonio Area
Foundation – Nizkor Fund. Both Canadian and American donors may deduct their
contributions from their income taxes.
You will also recall that while trying to contact Nizkor’s head
honcho, Ken McVay, for a broadcast interview, Ernst was directed to a mail
drop to several phone message machines. Personal e-mail sent to Ken McVay was
answered by none other than B’nai Brith’s chief spokesperson on Vancouver
Island, Harry Abrams.
His telephone was answered by a Rabbi Goldberg. Furthermore, McVay is
publicly lionized and promoted on the lecture circuit by B’nai Brith et al –
the folks who like to visit law enforcement quarters to regale them
“sensitivity training” on how to spot and counteract “racists and terrorists.”
We understand that Ken McVay and entourage are giving it their all by
serving to protect the Holocaust Lobbyists from having to answer some
justified questions, such as: “Did Six Million Really Die?” For that, they get
official kudos from sundry dignitaries and lots of free publicity from a
beholden media.
Their website URL is frequently listed in articles. Ken McVay even got the
Order of British Columbia from the Queen of England for his work.
What seems to have been overlooked until now is the incriminating fact
that the allegedly oh so noble folks at Nizkor, who like to seize the moral
high ground in every argument, store detailed information and instructions on
how to engage in electronic computer terrorism on their websites. This is
tantamount to displaying bomb making instructions on militia sites, which
Nizkor’s friends routinely rail about.
This information on the Nizkor website directs people where to find
and download programs needed to execute devastating e-mail bombings.
This is distinctly not an accidental listing because Nizkor submitted it to be
placed on its own website search engine so that potential electronic
terrorists would easily be able to find it.
There comes a point when the public must be allowed to ask: “Where
does B’nai Brith’s influence and control over Nizkor begin or end? Does it
include an agenda of electronic terrorism against Holocaust Revisionist
websites or electronic Holocaust Revisionism?
Here is why I ask, in my capacity as the US-based webmaster and editor
of the material posted on the Zundelsite, including “Did Six Million Really
Die?”
Immediately after the massive electronic act of terrorism in December,
I filed a formal complaint with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Nanaimo,
B.C., asking that this matter be investigated as a criminal offense. I sent
this letter, which had been carefully prepared with the help of an attorney,
to a specific police officer, addressing him by name. I even sent this letter
registered. I asked for an acknowledgment and action.
Now it is almost three months later. So far, I have not yet received
an answer.
RCMP has since been contacted again – still no response.
I will now share the information since obtained with the RCMP as well,
as well as with my readership. The information is as follows:
At http://search.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?miscellany/up-yours-faq, there are
explicit instructions on how to mail bomb an opponent. Below, I quote some
excerpts from a program called “Up Yours”.
It tells you where to get it and urges you to download it, as per the
following, replete with misspellings:
Q: What is Up Yours?
A: Up Yours is a program developed by AcidAngel of Global kOS to
mail bomb specific users on the Internet. The present version is 100%
completely anonymous and uses random headers and subject lines and
even uses random servers. it implements a HELO spoofing technique that is
next to impossible to trace.
Q: What is a Mailbomb?
A: A mailbomb does not blow up anyones address, Just think if you
got 10,000 e-mail messages and had to download them.. Usually this would take
down the server and have the sysop reprimand the user for angering people on
the Internet. Some servers have been downed for weeks that I know of
because of certain users…. (that means no e-mail for anyone on that server)
Q: What is the advantage of using Up Yours?
A: You are anonymous, 100%, and it cannot be traced back to you.
Q: Okay, I’m new to the business, but whats a mailbomner(?) good
for???
A: If you have a user that you really want to get revenge against
and have his ISP (Internet Service Provider) get very mad at him/her or you
simply want to cripple the user from recieving e-mail for an extended period
of time.
Q: What does up yours now do? how do you run it? Will it jam up
someone elses computer? is it any good?
A: It won’t jam up anyone elses computer, it will however trash
their mail server and cripple them getting any mail for a long time… It is
the best war-mailer for Windows 95…
Q: Do I need it? If yes, then why?
A: Of course, if everyone else has a gun why would you want a
butterknife?
Q: how much damage will it do?
A: much, very much.”
(end of excerpt)
So here you have a “charitable” organization that takes donations and
hands out tax deductible receipts, pretending to champion a worthy cause
and high ideals of truth and justice – and yet has not just the audacity but
the terrorist mentality to advertise and to promote not only how to hurt a
dissident with whom they disagree but how to hurt a server and thousands of
this server’s totally neutral, apolitical customers.
That’s terrorism. There are six Nizkor mirror sites. Their websites
are promoted in schools as a “legitimate” Holocaust resource by public
agencies and officials.
Are these public officials mere dupes, inflicting on their lower ranks
their brand of political correctness while being fooled by Nizkor’s
electronic warfare experts – or worse?
Is someone trying to entice and introduce school children to computer
terrorism – or worse?
The FBI was, and presumably still is, investigating the massive
disruption of Webcom’s business. It has already been established that the
computers at a college in Nanaimo, B.C., the city listed as a PO Box mail drop
by Nizkor. played a key function in this crime of electronic terrorism. It
would be very strange indeed if this were a coincidence.
I think both parents and the public, as well as public officials, have
a right to a straight answer – not only from Nizkor about what that electronic
terrorism information, replete with instructions, is doing on their website
but also from educators and government officials who use, promote and champion
that website.
Do they condone or even deliberately encourage the learning of
computer crime via Nizkor’s websites and its mirror sites to silence political
opponents?
I would strongly encourage my readers to contact Staff Sgt. Ken Smith
at 303 Prideaux Street, Nanaimo, B.C. Canada V9R 2N3. His phone number is
250-754-2345 and his fax is 250-753-0946. It seems that in the new Canada even
the police needs to be counter-lobbied, since they seem to have been either
cowed or mentally captured by too much “sensitivity training” while closing
eyes and ears to real, 20th century electronic terrorism masquerading as
protection of the “Holocaust”.
I want to say in closing that the president of Webcom, Chris Schefler,
who is Jewish, has behaved towards us in an absolutely impeccable
professional manner.
We have never received anything but the finest of service from him.
Webcom has stuck to their “freedom of speech” stance even during this second,
more vicious, crippling and financially damaging attack, and even though the
owner of this server disagrees with us and has been greatly inconvenienced.
The irresponsibility that Nizkor has displayed with its listing of
instructions on how to mail-bomb an opponent does not help decent Jews with
standards.
Or, for that matter, inter-ethnic harmony. Nor does it aid the “memory of the
victims of the Holocaust” one bit.
Ingrid
It should be noted that, as of December 2002, the link to
http://search.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?miscellany/up-yours-faq was still
functional.
To the material on mailbombs Nizkor had added the following note:
NOTE ADDED MARCH 4, 1997: This information is here because Nizkor was
the VICTIM of a mailbomb delivered with this software. Ingrid Rimland’s
assertion, today, that we are suggesting USING the software is a lie, and only
illustrates how desperate she is to avoid discussion.
So there, dear reader, is Mr Kenneth McVay’s honest explanation. He
was providing information on how to mailbomb people not because he wanted
to supporters to mailbomb people but, rather, because someone else
mailbombed him.
Right.
6. CONCLUSION
>From the above it is quite clear that Mr McVay surrounds himself with
a web of dishonesty, half-truths and misrepresentations, most of which can be
easily exposed with a little good research. It is hardly surprising,
therefore, that elements of the Canadian Jewish community, together with the
anti-revisionists associated with the Holocaust History Project and
anti-revisionists such as Cecelia Clancey have sought to distance themselves
>from this man. That such a sleazy creature should be the foremost exponent in
Canada of the memory of the Jews who died in World War Two is an insult to
Jewish people throughout the world.
It is important to draw parallels between the McVay phenomenon in
Canada and the Searchlight phenomenon in England. The parallels are striking.
In both cases we have organizations dominated by one powerful personality
(Gerry Gable being Searchlight’s equivalent of McVay in many respects). In
both cases the organizations claim to research the ‘extreme right’ and to
provide information thereon for educational and law-enforcement purposes. The
‘research’ provided by Searchlight appears to be as awful as that provided by
Nizkor.152 Just as Nizkor’s McVay appears to have links with the security and
intelligence community, so it has been alleged that Searchlight’s Gable has
links with the security and intelligence community.153 Both organizations keep
extensive dossiers on people and do not hesitate to smear and attempt to
intimidate and discredit their opponents – the similarity in their tactics is
quite remarkable.
And Gable has shown himself to be as dishonest as McVay. He has also
shown an equal, if not greater, contempt for the law.
Both men fight by attacking reputations. It is, in a sense, war by
libel, made possible primarily by the sheer difficulty and cost involved in
securing a successful libel judgement in British and Canadian courts. And it
is a powerful strategy. The idea is that by destroying the good name of their
victim they will prevent the general public from even beginning to listen to
the victim’s arguments. Not only that but their victim will be forced to spend
considerable time and energy defending himself against the sustained onslaught
rather than propagating his ideas (a point that is often forgotten by victims
who wade boldly into battle).
However, these people are not invulnerable. The watchers can be
watched, they can be exposed, and they can be subjected to public ridicule.
After all, from this day onwards it will be difficult for anyone to listen to
Ken’s stern allegations of ‘anti-Semitism’ and ‘hate speech’ without that
pesky image of a naked Humpty Dumpty popping up . . .
Despite the foregoing, it is my firm belief that, by concentrating on
personalities rather than ideas, the libel warriors are fighting a
losing battle in the long term. You can destroy a man’s reputation but his
ideas, if they are good and well presented, will live on. And the sheer sleaze
associated with the libel warriors is such that serious people of goodwill
everywhere will not take them seriously once they are made aware of the full
facts – which has been my business in this report.
APPENDIX – NOTE ON USENET AND WEB CITATIONS
The notes below contain extensive references to material posted to the
Internet either in the form of Usenet contributions or on Web cites. This goes
with the territory: McVay works primarily on the Internet.
Usenet citations give the name or pseudonym of the poster together
with a message ID and a date. To retrieve the message from the material given
readers should preferably use the Google search engine’s advanced group search
facility at http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en
The full message ID for the post to be retrieved should then be
entered into the box labelled ‘message ID’ and the ‘enter’ or ‘return’ key
pressed.
It is possible for Usenet messages to be deleted or ‘nuked’ by someone
using the same user name as the person who originally posted a particular
message.
However, if this appears to have happened, type the message ID into
the box labelled ‘find messages with the exact phrase’. This should retrieve
any posts by other users quoting the original post that has been deleted.
These might well quote the deleted message in full.
Similarly, Web pages come and go. To retrieve a Web site that appears
to have been deleted or altered, use the Internet Archive Wayback Machine at:
http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html
This is far from perfect insofar as it fails to archive many important
pages, however it is a valuable resource despite its shortcomings.
Notes
1 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<19[email protected]>. Date: 22 November 1994.
2 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 3 March 1993.
3 See
http://web.archive.org/web/19990128083200/http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/.
4 ibid.
5 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<1[email protected]>. Date: 9 December 1992.
6 The Idler 1(15) (5 July 1999), see
http://www.geocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.html.
7 See, for example, http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon/BigBrother/ and
also
http://www.crr.ca/en/Publications/bibliography/ePub_BiblioAntiRacPracPart1.htm.
8 See, for example,
http://www.media-awareness.ca/eng/speakers/names/mcvayk.htm.
9 This is at https://nizkor.org/awards.html.
10 See http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/.
11 See http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/gbu.html.
12 See
http://web.archive.org/web/20010404030356/www2.ca.nizkor.org/~kmcvay/
and/or http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/.
13 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>. Date: 3
February 1991.
14 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<1[email protected]>. Date: 7 November 1991.
15 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1. Date 2
November 1996.
16 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]> Date: 7 November 1991.
17 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1. Date 2
November 1996.
18 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]> Date: 5 April 1992.
19 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>. Date 2
November 1996.
20 The Idler, 1(15) 5 July 1999,
http://www.geocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.html, and
http://web.archive.org/web/19990128083200/http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/.
21 Usenet post by Ken McVay, Message ID:
<[email protected]>, date: 28 April 1992
states: ‘I was married to a teacher for 25 years, and fought with her
constantly about the problems I observed from that vantage point.’ Usenet post
by Kenneth McVay,
Message-ID: <[email protected]>, date: 16 May
1993, also mentions his divorce.
22 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<1[email protected]>. Date: 29 February 1992.
23 See
http://web.archive.org/web/20010516030208/http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/,
http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/. See also Usenet post by Ken McVay,
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>, date 28 October 1992.
24 Usenet post by Lisa Graham. Message ID:
Date: 1 April 1993.
25 Usenet post by Lisa Lambeth (formerly Graham). Message-ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>. Date: 16 June 1997.
26 Usenet post by Lisa Graham. Message ID:
Date: 16 April 1993.
27 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>. Date: 7
March 1991.
28 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
9 June 1991.
29 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>. Date: 3
February 1991.
30 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>. Date: 31
January 1991.
31 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<1[email protected]>. Date: 3 December 1992.
32 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>. Date:
2 November 1996.
33 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>. Date: 31
January 1991.
34 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>>. Date: 27 June 1996.
35 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>. Date:
2 November 1996.
36 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]> Date: 3 December 1992.
37 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]> Date 3 December 1992.
38 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]> Date: 28 October 1992.
39 See http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/.
40
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/polish-american-journal-
0195.html.
41 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<1[email protected]>. Date 2 September 1992.
42 This is all listed at
http://web.archive.org/web/19990128083200/http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/.
43 See
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/press/canadian-business-96.html.
44 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<19[email protected]>. Date: 26 October 1992.
45 See http://www.compcocity.com/EJL/april/MCVAY.htm.
46 See http://www.island.net/~kmcvay/schedule.html.
47 See http://safelist.kiosk.ws/members/aboutus.cgi?kaybe74,
http://www.wwkiosk.com/about_wwkiosk.html.
48 See
http://webpositiongold.kenmcvay.com/partner-webpositiongold.htm.
49 See
http://www.pro-list.net/members/marketadvisor/testimonials.html.
50 See
http://www.brobeck.com/publications/pr_individual.asp?newsItem=archPR3.
51 See http://www.tripleyourmoney.com/42469KE.
52 See http://www.smart-list.com/members/wired2cash/newuser.shtml.
53 See http://www.myebizpage.com/?id=wired2cash.
54 See
http://web.archive.org/web/20010404030356/www2.ca.nizkor.org/~kmcvay/.
55 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<19[email protected]>. Date: 26 October 1992.
56 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <
January 1991.
57 The Idler, 1(15) 5 July 1999,
http://www.geocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.html.
58 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>.
Date: 30 June 1998.
59 See http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/.
60 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<199[email protected]>. Date: 17 December 1992.
61 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date 6 May 1993.
62 See ‘Bouqets and brickbats’, Montreal Gazette, 15 October 1994.
See also
‘Holocaust defender’, The Globe & Mail, 18 October 1994. See further
‘Internet warrior takes on Holocaust revisionists’, The Sacramento Bee, 16
December 1994.
63 Canadian Business, 69 (5) (special technology issue), Spring 1996.
64 See
http://web.archive.org/web/19990904031105/http://www.media-
awareness.ca/eng/speakers/names/mcvayk.htm.
65 See
http://web.archive.org/web/20011121152952/http://www.media-
awareness.ca/eng/speakers/names/mcvayk.htm.
66 See http://www.island.net/~kmcvay/schedule.html.
67 See
http://web.archive.org/web/19990128083200/http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/#TRIVIA.
68 See http://www.efc.ca/pages/media/toronto.star.22mar99.html.
69 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]> Date: 7 March
1991.
70 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>. Date:
2 November 1996.
71 Usenet post by person using the name ‘Thomas Schwann’. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 24 June 1998.
72 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]> 30
June 1998.
73 Maclean’s Magazine 17 October 1994, p. 6.
74 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message-ID:
<[email protected]> Date: 27 May 1993.
75 ‘Holocaust defender’, The Globe & Mail, 18 October 1994.
76 See https://nizkor.org/encouragements/bootboy.html.
77 Canadian Business 69(5) (special technology issue), Spring 1996:
12.
78 See http://www.compcocity.com/ejl/april/mcvay.htm.
79 Usenet post by Jamie McCarthy. Message ID:
Date: 3 December 1996.
80 See
http://web.archive.org/web/19970721011509/www.nizkor.org/funding.html.
81 See http://www.cjnews.com/pastissues/99/oct21-99/front3.htm.
82 See
http://web.archive.org/web/20000831185852/http://www.vex.net/~kmcvay/.
83 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <2686f4a0-2.6alt.sex-1@oneb>.
Date: 26 June 1990.
84 See http://www.safe4kids.org/law/code1.htm.
85 See, for example, Usenet post by Ken McVay, Message ID:
<[email protected]>, date:
24 April 1990, in which our noble anti-Nazi hero holds forth on rape
and pillage.
86 See http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html.
87 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>.
Date: 26 February 1999.
88 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>.
Date: 9 March 2000.
89 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
Date: 6 November 2002.
90 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 16 April 1993.
91 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<1[email protected]>. Date: 7 November 1991.
92 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 17 April 1992.
93 See http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/5338/.
94 See http://www.pitt.edu/~cacst9/KKK/.
95 Usenet post by Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 9 March 1994.
96 Usenet post by Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 23 March 1994.
97 Usenet post by Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 30 March 1994.
98 Usenet post by Ken McVay.Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1 >.
Date: 18 May 1998.
99 Usenet post by Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 24 May 1998.
100 Usenet post by Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1. Date: 24 May 1998.
101 Usenet post by John Morris. Message ID:
<365[email protected]>#1/1>. Date 8 November 1998.
102 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>.
Date 22 May 2000.
103 Usenet post by Cecelia Clancey/Mueller/Plechinger. Message ID:
<8[email protected]>#1/1 >. Date: 22 May 2000.
104 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected].
Date: 23 June 1996.
105 See http://www.efc.ca/pages/pr/ostrich.html. This was reposted to
Usenet by
McVay, Message ID: <[email protected]>#1/1 >.
Date: 23 July 1996.
106 http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/8237/kenmcvay.htm
107 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>>.
Date: 19 January 1998
108 See
http://web.archive.org/web/20010601153726/www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/l/littman-
sol/littman-letter.html.
109 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1>. Date: 10
February 1999.
110 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
Date 13 June 1999.
111 Usenet post by John Morris. Message ID:
112 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1 >.
Date: 16 November 1999.
113 Usenet post by David Gorski using the pseudonym ‘Orac’.
Message-ID:
December 1999.
114 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1.
Date: 19 December 1999.
115 Usenet post by Yale F. Edeiken..Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1.
Date: 18 December 1999.
116 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1 >.
Date: 18 December 1999.
117 Usenet post by John Morris. Message ID:
1999.
118 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>#1/1 >.
Date: 19 December 1999.
119 See http://www.iahushua.com/BeWise/april95.html.
120 See https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/michael-david/.
121 Usenet post by David E Michael. Message ID:
<[email protected]>.
Date: 11 May 2002.
122 Usenet post, Message-ID: <[email protected]>.
Date: 11 September 1998.
123 See
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-
Bradbury-RA.01.
124 See
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//b/bradbury.scott/Edeiken-v-
Bradbury.C1.
125 Usenet post by David E Michael. Message ID:
<[email protected]>.
Date: 5 November 2002.
126 Usenet post by Steven Mock. Message ID:
2002.
127 Usenet post by Michael Ragland. Message ID:
<35[email protected]>. Date: 8 November
2002.
128 See https://nizkor.org/league-donation.html.
129 Usenet posting by anonymous poster using the pseudonym ‘Waldo’.
Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 2 December 2002.
130 Usenet posting by anonymous poster using the pseudonym ‘Waldo’.
Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 19 May 2001.
131 Usenet posting by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date:
21 May 2001.
132 Usenet posting by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date:
21 May 2001.
133 Usenet posting by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date
4 May 2001.
134 Usenet posting by John Morris. Message-ID:
135 Usenet posting by Jamie McCarthy. Message ID:
December 1996.
136 Usenet posting by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 5 June 1997.
137 Usenet posting by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>
Date: 4 January 2001.
138 San Antonio Express-News, 3 August 1996.
139 See http://www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf.
140 See http://www.saafdn.org/Pages/grantsframes.html.
141 Usenet posting by Ken Lewis. Message ID:
<[email protected]>. Date: 8 August 2001.
142 ibid.
143 Usenet post by Sara Salzman/Schwarz. Message ID:
Date: 27 August 1996.
144 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID:
<[email protected]>.
Date: 18 December 2001.
145 Usenet post by Ken McVay. Message ID: <[email protected]>
5 May 2001.
146 See http://www.icomm.ca/founding-board.html.
147 See http://www.vex.net/contact.py.
148 See http://www.bnaibrith.ca/nfindex.htm.
149 See http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/edeiken-yale/.
150 See
http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/edeiken-yale/draft-00.html.
151 See
http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg1997/zg9703/970304.html.
152 See the excellent research on this by Al Baron, for example at
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Embassy/2634/searchliar_1.html.
153 See, for example, anarchist material on this at
http://www.spunk.org/library/antifasc/sp000525.html. See also Larry
O’Hara’s
extensive document on Searchlight at
http://www.greenanarchist.org.uk/Sfb.htm.
Also see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=p0afnvchj52pcuh6c0dk78f9bs7ngfetac%404a
x.com&rnum=1
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Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928
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—-NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay’s Numerous Lies Regarding His
Funding—-
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Subject: Did NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Pay Tax On Those $50k+
Donations He Denies Receiving From the San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor
Fund
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:22 GMT
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x.com&rnum=1
Subject: Article on Ken McVay [email protected]_ (Also Helps
Prove He’s a
Liar) R_0611
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:20:32 -0500
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Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V2.0
Date: 30 Mar 2003 03:49:12 GMT
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x.com&rnum=1
Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the
Nizkor Endowment and Trust Funds?
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:56:49 -0600
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news.com&rnum=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT
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x.com&rnum=3
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam
Message-ID:
B’nai Brith also funded communist David Lethbridge:
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x.com&rnum=1
Subject: B’nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge
Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity R_0928
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 29 Sep 2003 03:38:45 GMT
Tavish
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
Michael’s detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
just to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
Reply to: Frank Arthur
or to [email protected], or [email protected]
SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
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Subject: Remembrance Day for All – NO HOLOHOAX Day Just for ZYDS!! Repost
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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky
wrote:
Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS,
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!
Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg
>>From: Nemo
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of All Holocausts Of 20th Century–Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin’s Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler’s Nazis.
>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward” and “Cultural Revolution”.
>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.
>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having
>>CHRIST killed!!
>>[email protected] (LisaMcVay) wrote in message
>>news:<[email protected]>…
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!
>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!
>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?
>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.
>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.
>>Canada doesn’t even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930’s.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?
>>Canada doesn’t celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied
>>Australia.
>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS – who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes – do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be exterminated!!
>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!
>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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Subject: Re: 2 Great FREE Tax Programs – Repost
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:30:06 -0700, Yitzhak Goldstein
wrote:
>There are 2 great FREE computer programs for doing 2006 personal tax
>returns!
>Go to: http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/freebies/P15/
>The programs are: Studio Tax
>and Taxman 2006
>Both are as good, and probably better than the ripoff progs from
>Intuit!!
>No wonder the CEO of Intuit claims he will soon have something to
>compete against the great FREE programs!
Studio Tax was great – better than Intuit’s junk, and it was FREE!!
I recommend it to all, and as ING says: SAVE YOUR MONEY!!
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Subject: Re: ZYD/Jew Rudolph Kastner Wore a Nazi SS Uniform !! ZYD KOLABORACI With Nazis! Repost
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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos”
>The Accusations
> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.
> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm
> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.
> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…
> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”
> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-
KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]
Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer
>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….
>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>The Kastner Case
>—————–
>Introduction
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
>Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid
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Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
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together with
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CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
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We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
And also: George Firestone: “George”
and [email protected].
Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
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of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.
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It must be jealousy that is causing all the goyim to object to the fact that
he can scam the IRS and CRA, by money laundering through Bnai Brith
Now, with the Canadian tax Department – CRA – authorising an extra $30 million
for a TAX FRAUD TAX FORCE, McVay and his co-conspirators in Bnai Brith will
probably be joining criminal Bernardo in the pen!!
Plus, all those gullible crooks who used the FRAUDULENT charitable donation
receipts given for payments to McVay’s BUSINESS, will now get re-assessed, and
have to pay taxes, penalties, and interest!!
CRA should be able to recover most of the $30 million just from McVay,Bnai
Brith, and the suckers!!
Even Jew groups, such as Sol Littman/Bnai Brith, have a website criticising
Ken McVay at:
http://www.freedomsite.org/exposed/littman/littman_on_mcvay/index.shtml
PROOF THAT MCVAY SWINDLES EVERYONE, AND DOES NOT DECLARE INCOME FOR TAXES!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/5863ead7b3942e76?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000 Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Ken McVay is
Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Report for
2002 Is Further Proof! V3.5 T_0929
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:41:48 -0500
Message-ID:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New Archives
and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/56a1a43fe4f9d61d?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V3-2 T_0929
Message-ID:
Date: 29 Sep 2005 15:34:29 GMT
All links have been updated such as internal GOOGLE links! Just quoting parts
of the abov where McVay says one thing and then another pisses him off!
Even ZHID groups are disgusted with McVay, as this website from BB declares:
http://www.freedomsite.org/exposed/littman/littman_on_mcvay/index.shtml
Mamser Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now dying from AIDS,
wants all to know about all his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest…….
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re:NIZKOR/MCVAY SWINDLE CCRA – ALSO JEWS!!!
Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:59:21 +0200 (CEST)
From: NIZKOR WATCH .
Subject: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU,
THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:46:30 -0600
One must wonder, who in CCRA is on the take,
that they do not prosecute for JEW TAX FRAUDS,
such as McVay/NIZKOR, or the BRONFMANS??
Straight from CCRA: “we have no record of a registered
charity by the name of Nizkor.org.”
THIS POST FILED WITH CCRA
FOREWORD: Canadian revenue payers you need to contact
CCRA and ask them how a website is able to receive
“exempt donations” when it is neither a registered
charity or a Non Profit Organization.
In a new development, victims of the false NIZKOR
charitable donation tax receipts may now contact a
senior official of CCRA (Canadian IRS).
Call Mr.Philippe Robert
Special Investigations – Charities – CCRA
Phone : 1-800-267-2384, or 1-613-946-2423
The equivalent with IRS in the USA,
2 phone numbers for:
IRS Criminal Investigations H.O.
1-800-829-0433
or, 202-622-7796
Looks like McVay/NIZKOR, as well as related crooks
will soon be joining their buddies in the slammer.
A letter (included below) from CCRA advises me they
never heard of NIZKOR.ORG so you all should be asking
how Nizkor is offering:
“Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax
receipt” when it is nothing more than a website!
It’s YOUR tax dollars financing a man who pays HIMSELF
to defame private citizens!
https://nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation
Canadian receipt)
CCRA said: “we have no record of a registered charity
by the name of Nizkor.org.” (Letter included below)
Only registered charities are allowed
to issue “Canadian receipts”!!
“A registered charity is a charity that has specifically
applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for
registration and has been accepted as such. A registered
charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes.”
CCRA rule included below with web link for verification!
THE ONE-CREATURE BUSINESS, RUN BY MCVAY SOLELY TO
LINE HIS POCKETS, IN NO WAY IS A CHARITY AS SPECIFIED BY LAW!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Charity webmail
Sender: “Langdon, Blaine”
To: Scott Bradbury
Subject: Registered charity question.
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Thank you for your e-mail.
The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and
Revenue Agency is responsible for the registration
and compliance of charities in Canada.
These organizations are similar to “exempt organizations”
as are registered in the United States.
However, we have no record of a registered charity
by the name of Nizkor.org.
Additionally, due to the confidentiality provisions
of the Canadian Income Tax Act, I am unable to
disclose information concerning a particular
organization’s tax affairs, including measures
taken or to be taken by the Department resulting
>from complaints. However, I wish to assure you that
all complaints received by the Department are
treated seriously and are fully investigated,
where appropriate.
Finally, the annual information returns of
Canadian registered charities are available to
the public.
However, as you will note from the above,
Nizkor.org is not a registered charity.
The non-profit information return which you
describe is not available to the public.
Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.
Sincerely,
Blaine Langdon
Charities Directorate
~~~~END~~~~
LURKERS: here is how Ken McVay and his Nizkor business
is robbing you:
Folks I am getting CCRA’s attention and you
all should be putting forth the effort to find
out just how and why a “website” receives “exempt
donations” and the proprietor “pays himself” from
such donations and also his website has issued
“tax receipts.” This is a scam which bilks
the Canadian Tax Payer!
LOOK!
http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/tax/nonprofit/menu-e.html
Non-profit organizations – Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency
Remember Canadian Tax Payers –
It is YOU who is subsidizing Nizkor!
Do you want your tax dollar subsidizing this web site?
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Nizkor=&rnum=16&seld=909625816&ic
=1&filter=0
From: [email protected] (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general
Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit
Organization (NPO) Information Return Form T1044
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, https://nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References:
<[email protected]>
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
(Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:
>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
Glad to see you making that a public record.
Care to explain how a website not being either an
“NPO nor a Charity” can operate as you
do and issue tax deduction receipts?
No personal attacks now McVay because I WILL HOLD
YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE! I think CCRA would be interested
in what you just declared too!
Personal attack is all people have when they can’t
argue their position!
Has everyone ever noticed that trait in people who
have something to hide?
Why do you accept “exempt donations” and issue tax
receipts you bold faced liar and sleaze bag?
Answer that instead of making with the wise cracks.
You are NOT allowed by law to grant tax receipts
according to CCRA statutes which you so conveniently
deleted. The more you act like a pompous arrogant ass –
the more it makes me want to put you in your place.
YOU ARE A LIAR!
Canadian revenue payers take note of this sleazer!
He’s being subsidized at your expense!
What sleaze bag McVay deleted because he doesn’t want
to deal with it:
http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4117eq/t4117eq.html#P131_12645
Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO)
Information Return Includes Form T1044
Visually impaired persons can get information on services
available to them, and can order publications in braille
or large print, or on audio cassette or computer diskette,
by calling 1-800-267-1267 weekdays from
8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (Eastern Time).
[…]
An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income
Tax Act is a club,society, or association that is
organized and operated solely for:
social welfare;
civic improvement;
pleasure or recreation;
or any other purpose except profit.
Also, no part of the income of these organizations can
be payable to or otherwise available for the personal
benefit of any proprietor, member, or shareholder,
unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder was a
club, society,or association whose primary purpose
was to promote amateur athletics in Canada.
<>
Distinguishing non-profit organizations from registered
charities
An NPO is not a registered charity.
A registered charity is a charity that has specifically
applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for
registration and has been ACCEPTED by CCRA as such.
A registered charity can issue charitable receipts for
tax purposes. An NPO does not have to register either
federally or provincially to maintain
its privileged tax status.
Generally, registered charities also have to disburse
80% of the funds for which they issued charitable receipts
on their own charitable activities or as gifts to qualified
donees.
NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations or membership
fees contributed, and they are not required to disburse a
specified percentage of their earnings.
Notice what CCRA said about “issu[ing] charitable receipts
for tax purposes”? Look at McVay’s operation and see if it
complies with the law stated above:
“NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations..”
yet Ken McVay’s very own BUSINESS – NIZKOR page says:
“Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.”
Ken McVay also claims that NIZKOR is NOT a charity
as shown down further in this post.
https://nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
https://nizkor.org/league-donation.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its
cooperative affiliation with the League for Human Rights
of B’nai Brith Canada. The League is a national volunteer
organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights
for all Canadians.
Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their
donation may call B’nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224,
and advise the receptionist that they wish to make a
donation to the Nizkor Project;
If you prefer, you can print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o
The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________
Please make your donations payable to “The League for
Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words
“Nizkor Trust Fund” to the cheque’s memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used
to build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that
all of your donation be invested for Nizkor’s future needs,
please earmark your cheque or draft with the notation
‘For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.
(All bequests should be to the ‘Nizkor Endowment Fund,
Care of The League for Human
Rights of B’nai Brith Canada’.)
Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]
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Notice what is said above?
Look what Ken Mcvay has said not too long ago:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charity=&rnum=4&seld=955885050&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC ([email protected])
Subject: Re: JEWS DUMPED FAG MCVAY!!!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2000-12-05 13:46:34 PST
“McVay/Nizkor” has never issued tax receipts of any sort,
Mr.Grosvenor, so it’s rather silly to suggest we got
“caught at it.”
Notice how McVay says one thing and then says another?
His very own “website” says: “Donations over $10.00
will receive a Canadian tax receipt.”
https://nizkor.org/league-donation.html
Yet in the post just above McVay said:
“McVay/Nizkor” has never issued tax receipts of any sort,
Mr. Grosvenor, so it’s rather silly to suggest we
got “caught at it.”
McVay is a LIAR anyway you look at it! I provided the
links to all of my proofs so that you all, the
concerned citizenry may verify my claims.
It is also plain that McVay does not claim Nizkor
to be a charitable organization as shown here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charitable=&rnum=1&seld=943267125&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Is Ken McVay’s WWW.NIZKOR.ORG A Sham
Which Gets its Director Spending Money? R 2
Date: 2001-01-06 00:00:08 PST
In article <[email protected]>,
Doc Tavish
>We know that the Nizkor website relies on charitable
>donations in order to survive. We also accept that any
>organization whose survival depends on charitable
>donations should make its records open to the public.
>Will Ken McVay answer these questions as he is the sole
>director of Nizkor!
How does Mr. Bradbury “know” these things?
How does Mr. Bradbury “know” that Nizkor is a “charitable
organization?” (Can he show that anyone from Nizkor has
ever claimed to be such an organization?)
Well now we know Nizkor is not a “charitable organization”
so it has to be an NPO?!
So why does Ken McVay’s NPO declare at its web page:
“Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt”
which would be in violation of: “NPOs cannot issue tax
receipts for donations” but Ken McVay lies to a person
who’s an object of his smear campaign: “McVay/Nizkor” has
never issued tax receipts of any sort..”
Then again KcVay admitted higher up in this post:
“Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.”
See how NIZKOR skirts all criteria of the tax laws?
Does Nizkor or does Nizkor not look crooked?
Seeing how Ken McVay’s Nizkor accepts “exempt donation[s]”
it would be interesting to see why the Canadian Government
actually approves an organization with such tax status to
operate under the conditions Ken McVay’s Nizkor does.
To this very day Ken McVay will not answer these
questions:
1) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
2) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
3) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
4) Where can one find the organizational papers for Nizkor?
a) How many people compose the Nizkor staff?
According to ex-staffers who have posted articles to newsgroups,
McVay IS THE
SOLE PAID EMPLOYEE OF THE BUSINESS!!!
b) What are the financial responsibilities of Nizkor?
5) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorized to
solicit tax free contributions?
6) How much money does Nizkor Org receive yearly as charitable donations?
7) You show below that you pay yourself– what is your yearly pay?
Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B’nai Brith get from Nizkor?
Date: 05/08/2000
Author: Kenneth McVay, OBC
>f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?
Yup – I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site advertising.
~~~~~~~End Archival Excerpt~~~~~~
8) Is Nizkor proper (it’s office and main facilities)
located in a back room of your own residence as this says?
http://www.Xgeocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.htmlX
(Remove the X’s to view the site, this is to help prevent
McVay from spamming the search engines. Link active March 24, 2001)
“A Voyage to Nanaimo– It takes two hours to cross the
Georgia Strait by ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia,
another half-hour by jitney from the Nanaimo terminal to
reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for
The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary
suburban split-level in a middle-class neighborhood.
There is nothing distinctive about its location. ….
I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
monitors, and books… Seated in front of the array is
McVay, apparently a 50-something computer nerd. He is
tall, thin, with short hair and glasses, wired to the
world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay
runs from this room in the back of his house… ”
A question for all reading this:
How many organizations which receive charitable
contributions operate from the backroom of the
director’s home? He claims to be non-profit and
it appears that he would have a low overhead–
so how much money does Ken McVay receive for
his backroom operation?
Why won’t Ken McVay make public his budget?
9) What sort of legitimate organization keeps
files on private citizens and publicly defames
people on its “hit list” as Nizkor does?
“Canada’s Very Own Nizkor’s Lies, Smears, and Defamation Answered”
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=5&seld=921850669&ic=1
“Pathological Liar Tubby Edeiken’s Perjured Fabricated Evidence”
To continually propagate information which has been
proven false, perjurious, and fabricated and by a person
who incited murder against the person he has litigated
is most deplorable BUT this is what Ken McVay’s Nizkor
does with “exempt donation[s].”
An organization such as Nizkor would not be able to
operate in this manner in the United States
and perhaps this is why Ken McVay left the
United States to operate from Canada!>>
Time will tell. Those interested in finding out why
Nizkor can operate in this manner should contact:
http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/contact/
which is the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.
Nizkor would not be allowed to operate in the manner
it does in America and perhaps this is why Ken McVay,
director of Nizkor, diverts attention
>from having an American money pot!
[…]
For those who are curious, here the details of
the neutral people behind Mr Mazal:
His above website is registered by the
“San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund” c/o BASIC of
600 Sandau Suite 400,
San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA.
The billing contact is Mr Harry Mazal of the same address:
San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC,
600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216,
and their phone number is 210-377-2422.
Somebody might like to check them out in more details.
We will be happy in the spirit of openness to post all
that we are told of these people.
It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.
~~~~END~~~~
Again- Canadian tax payers- do you wish to subsidize Ken McVay?
Doc Tavish
—
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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From: JimMcCarthy
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Subject: Re: Families DO NOT Want Liberal Child Care Program – Repost
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The commies and lesbians supporting the Y may want the communist type family
day care scams proposed by the socialist lieberals, but normal families most
certainly DO NOT want the scam.
If the government wants to give the PARENTS $100 a month, for the parent to
use towards whatever form of child care the parent wants, rather than the
institutionalised daycares of communism, then as Martha Stewart would say,
That is a good thing!
There already is too much government interference in families, and this may be
a step in the right direction, allowing parents to choose where they wish to
start the education of their children.
On 21 Mar 2006 16:38:40 -0800, “[email protected]”
>Canadian families, irrespective of where they live or the size of their
>communities, want their child care needs met by a nationally-funded
>public system and not a federal cash payout, according to a recent
>report by YWCA Canada.
>
>The report’s findings are based on four community task forces held
>over the past year in four distinct communities across Canada: Halifax,
>Vancouver, Martensville, Saskatchewan, and Cambridge, Ontario.
>
>In each task force, parents, service providers and business people
>consistently said that they wanted integrated services that are
>publicly and fairly funded so that they could meet the demands of
>parents in their communities.
>
>The Conservatives are planning to scrap childcare agreements signed by
>the Liberal government and the provinces to develop a National Early
>Learning and Child Care Program. Instead, they will provide parents
>with direct payments of $1,200 a year per child.
>
>But as YWCA study director Jenny Robinson points out, the
>Conservatives’ payment would amount to only $8 a week for a
>middle-income family once it is taxed – a sum that will come nowhere
>close to meeting basic child care needs. In addition, the study also
>finds that even if parents have money to buy child care services, there
>is still a shortage of services to buy.
>
>Prime Minister Stephen Harper plans to deal with this shortage by
>offering a one-time credit of $10,000 for businesses and community
>groups to create 125,000 new daycare spaces.
>
>However, 85 per cent of the costs of a child care space are operational
>costs. The Conservative plan offers nothing to keep that space going.
>Moreover, the YWCA report indicates that although tax cuts have been
>offered in some provincial jurisdictions, they have not resulted in any
>new child care spaces.
>
>Canadians want a plan that will guarantee every child – regardless of
>parental income or geography – will get a quality, affordable and
>accessible space offered by a licensed professional. Parents and
>caregivers understand, as we do, that a cash payout is not the answer
>to the country’s very real need for child care.
>
>A national child care program like that envisioned in the YWCA report
>is not beyond our means. The Liberal Party has made it a priority to
>ensure the Conservative government honours the 10 multi-year child care
>deals already reached with the provinces. Canadian families deserve
>nothing less.
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From: JimMcCarthy
Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: $HALF MILLION UNDERASSESSED by Edmonton Tax Dept. Heads to Roll!! – MORE – Involving WEM? Repost
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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED,
compared to all the financing registered on the property?
Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?
Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?
It seems that ALTUS Group out of Toronto is bragging on their website that
thay have done 2 jobs for WEM.
In the first in 1981, and 1984, they did appraisals HIGH, to arrange
financing.
Then in 1992 they did another appraisal LOW for a reducing of city tax
assessment.
In other words TWO SETS OF PHONY FIGURES!!
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator
wrote:
Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006
>Can’t get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.
>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 – 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!
>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!
>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous “snitch line” to save the
>City many millions.
>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?
>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!
>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!
>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS
>wrote:
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: “Brian Boulanger”
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f…@bouncemail.ca – Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, “Brian Boulanger” wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands….
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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Subject: Re: CRA Steals Business from Tax Preparers,Accountants Repost
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The original poster was not complaining about CRA doing free tax returns for
pensioners and the like.
The complaint was about doing for FREE tax returns for those making as
individuals $25,000.
These people can easily afford the low fees charged by competent businesses
for simple tax returns.
As for couples making $37,500 they should not be getting their tax returns
prepared for FREE, but should go to a professional.
As for your inane comment about preparing a tax return in 2 minutes, it is
obvious that you do not fill in any tax return in Canada!
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:47:32 -0500, “Sharon Voskamp”
wrote:
>For your information, CRA has been doing this volunteer program for about 25
>years.
>The people that mainly use this service are welfare recipients, seniors,
>handicapped and new immigrants to the country.
>I think it is a great service. I am tired of the places that charge $50 and
>up to prepare a return with a T5007 and rent. It takes 3 minutes and you
>have just made over $600 an hour. What a rip off.
>I hope they keep doing it.
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Subject: Re: Harpo Lies – Actually RAISED TAXES for those earning the least!!!!
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On 3 May 2006 15:17:39 -0700, “George Dance”
>Asterix wrote:
>> harpo, like most politicians, lied yesterday when he claimed to be
>> lowering taxes.
>> In fact, he RAISED taxes for the lowest level of taxpayers.
>> For the 2005 tax year just filed, the rate was only 15%.
>Actually, the legal rate for 2005 was 16%. The Liberals never got
>around to passing their tax cut into law; they just told CCRA to mail
>out new forms before election day.
Not true.
The reduced rate of 15% was passed by the Lieberals, effective February 2005.
If you will read your 2005 tax return, federal tax calculation page, you will
see that the rate for those with under $35,000 taxable, is 15%!!!
>> Harpo and his crooks have now RAISED it to 15.5%.
That is why taxpayers earning the lowest tax bracket in income,under $35,595
taxable income, will have to PAY extra, instead of a refund for year 2006,
because the federal rate was RAISED from 15% to 15.25%!!
>> It may not sound like a hefty hike, but to a poor person, this adds up
>> in a year!
>> Also, why give a tax cut for the filthy rich families sending their
>> brats to hockey practice?
>> This is neither useful, nor necessary.
Better to have given a larger deduction for texts for post-secondary
education, which MAY be useful for employment, while hockey and
sports are not!!
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Subject: Why Cop Mike Boyd Refused as Chief of Police Toronto? Repost
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Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of Police
Toronto?
If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.
Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to wonder
also.
Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in volume.
Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in Toronto?
In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex trade
workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!
But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering whether the
killer is one of the cops?
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Subject: Re: Why Cop Mike Boyd Refused as Chief of Police Toronto? Repost
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 19:52:23 GMT, “TJ”
>get a grip will you…over 100 bodies…ya right…show me the stats on that
>1…just because they are missing that doesn’t prove they are dead, they
>lead a dangerous life sytle and move all over the place. If anything we need
>better looking hookers instead of the skank we have walking the streets.
It is the media who have tabulated more than 107 bodies of sex trade workers
in the past few years.
>suuurrreeeeeee….we are all wondering if it’s a cop, what BS….
>and how do you know it’s “1” killer or a cop for that matter…maybe more
>than 1….your watching to much tv my friend…..
Perhaps, but surely you are not denying the fact, that a crooked cop would
easily know how to cover his trail, so his brother cops would not bother to
investigate? Particularly the cops hired and promoted over the past 20 years!
>better get your facts straight….as for Boyd, he has done a bang up job
>since he has been here. Our police service is so screwed up it was a wonder
>Boyd or anyone would take the job. But he did get them to up the salary to
>$250 grand a year to take the job, nice cheque every 2 weeks eh…….
You failed to answer the question in the header – why was he constantly
REFUSED THE TOP JOB IN TORONTO?
Was it something to do with his wife also being on the public trough there?
>there’s nothing to wonder, he’s doing a great job and has the respect of the
>people in this city and from the members of the EPS…it’s the members of
>the EPS I would wonder about.
Who says he has the respect of the public here, apart from you?
>they all seem taser happy these days….
Including the kids of the former chief, don’t forget…
>”Asterix”
>news:[email protected]…
>> Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of
>> Police Toronto?
>>
>> If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.
>>
>> Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to
>> wonder also.
>>
>> Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in
>> volume. Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in
>> Toronto?
>>
>> In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex
>> trade workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!
>>
>> But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering
>> whether the killer is one of the cops?
>
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Subject: Re: 2 Great FREE Tax Programs – Repost
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:30:06 -0700, Yitzhak Goldstein
wrote:
>There are 2 great FREE computer programs for doing 2006 personal tax
>returns!
>Go to: http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/freebies/P15/
>The programs are: Studio Tax
>and Taxman 2006
>Both are as good, and probably better than the ripoff progs from
>Intuit!!
>No wonder the CEO of Intuit claims he will soon have something to
>compete against the great FREE programs!
Studio Tax was great – better than Intuit’s junk, and it was FREE!!
I recommend it to all, and as ING says: SAVE YOUR MONEY!!
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Subject: Re: ZYD/Jew Rudolph Kastner Wore a Nazi SS Uniform !! ZYD KOLABORACI With Nazis! Repost
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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos”
>The Accusations
> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.
> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm
> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.
> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…
> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”
> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-
KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]
Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer
>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….
>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>The Kastner Case
>—————–
>Introduction
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:06:59 GMT, “Leon Trollski”
>”Bob Loblaw”
>news:GNqLf.65797$H%4.18710@pd7tw2no…
>with pay??? This is disgusting.
The 2 low level cops Bell and Nesbitt were arrested, and charged.
They are the ones now on paid holidays!
But what about their crooked BOSS, the one who gave the orders,
and presumably got MORE THAN THE $437,000?!!
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Subject: Re: FRAUD in City Tax Department – Time to FIRE/Prosecute Staff Responsible!! MORE!! No Wonder Businesses LEAVE! Repost
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No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer’s house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR,
FOR 8 YEARS!!
One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?
>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing, March 27.
>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed for his property at 13723 –
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.
>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?
It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year – for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!
>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!
>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!
>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!
>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?
>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!
>> From: [email protected] the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700
>> Why do you call our beuatiful city “deadmonton”, ?
>> if you don’t like it here why are you doing here? why don’t you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you’re
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>
>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!
>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do – FILE AN APPEAL!!
>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!
>>> Checking the website for this year’s assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!
>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!
>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?
>>> From: [email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700
>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.
>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!
>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.
>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?
>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!
>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?
>>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!
>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!
>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.
>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.
>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!
>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did…..
>>>>>> starwars
>>>>>> news:
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!
>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 – still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?
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Subject: Re: $HALF MILLION UNDERASSESSED by Edmonton Tax Dept. Heads to Roll!! – MORE – Involving WEM? Repost
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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED,
compared to all the financing registered on the property?
Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?
Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?
It seems that ALTUS Group out of Toronto is bragging on their website that
thay have done 2 jobs for WEM.
In the first in 1981, and 1984, they did appraisals HIGH, to arrange
financing.
Then in 1992 they did another appraisal LOW for a reducing of city tax
assessment.
In other words TWO SETS OF PHONY FIGURES!!
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator
wrote:
Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006
>Can’t get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.
>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 – 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!
>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!
>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous “snitch line” to save the
>City many millions.
>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?
>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!
>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!
>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS
>wrote:
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: “Brian Boulanger”
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f…@bouncemail.ca – Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, “Brian Boulanger” wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands….
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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Subject: Remembrance Day for ALL – No Special HOLOHOAX Day Just for Zyds! – Repost
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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky
wrote:
Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS,
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!
Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg
>>From: Nemo
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of All Holocausts Of 20th Century–Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin’s Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler’s Nazis.
>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward” and “Cultural Revolution”.
>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.
>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having
>>CHRIST killed!!
>>[email protected] (LisaMcVay) wrote in message
>>news:<[email protected]>…
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!
>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!
>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?
>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.
>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.
>>Canada doesn’t even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930’s.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?
>>Canada doesn’t celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied
>>Australia.
>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS – who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes – do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be exterminated!!
>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!
>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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>On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:07:17 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
>
>>On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 07:58:39 -0700, YitzhakGoldstein
>>
>>>The city of Edmonton finally has opened a public snitchline.
>>>Members of the public, as well as honest employees, can now
>>>make anonymous calls, to report wrong-doing by city employees.
>>>The senior managers and the city unions do not want the phone
>>>number available to the public.
>>>As a public service, the phone number is: 1-866-889-8297.
>Now even Channel8 News is promoting the service, as a feature in tonight’s
>news!
>>>The service is being handled by a call center in Montreal.
>>>They ask what is your connection to the city of Edmonton.
>>>The appropriate response, if you own a home, is “SHAREHOLDER”.
>>>So, Sharx, Grosvenor, Marshall, sewbeit, et al, call in all your complaints
>>>about crooks in Edmonton, including about financial irregularities in EPS.
Be sure to call, often, to: 1-866-889-8297
>>>And do not forget the crooks in the city tax assessment department, giving
>>>preferential treatment to their “friends”
>And, all the crooked cops and missing items from the “locked property room”,
>and so on.
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From: JimMcCarthy
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Subject: Re: Why appeal Property Assessment? Beause City Tax Assessors Are Either Corrupt, or Crooks!!
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This coming Friday, 30th June is the deadline for filing an Appeal regarding
fraudulently high Tax Assessments.
For a $30 filing fee, one gets the opportunity to say nasty, but true, things
about the crooks in the city tax assessment department.
Plus, with a little work, one has a good chance to get the assessment, and
city taxes, lowered, plus a refund of the $30 fee!
On Fri, 26 May 2006 15:02:43 GMT, Asterix
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, “sharx35”
>wrote:
>>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may
>>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.
>Well said, sharx.
If it wasn’t for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 – 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!
>>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear.
>>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>>> should be kept. If it doesn’t, the belief should not only be discarded,
>>> but
>>> the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the
>>> erroneous
>>> “sharx35”
>>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12…
>>>> “John Fleming”
>>>> news:[email protected]…
>>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle
>>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:
>>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>>> Here are some reasons:
>>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.
>>>> >> $> 2) Your property is below average for your community.
>>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn’t then you are
>>>> >> $> probably over assessed.
>>>> >> $> 3) You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>>> >> built
>>>> >> $> garages or have completed basement development or have done renovations
>>>> >> $> and you haven’t.
>>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.
>>>> > LOL
>>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood. (I was going to say, he could
>>>> > do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market
>>>> > value and bump up the taxes.)
>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada
>>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours enough
>>>> that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I’ve filed such
>>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>>> refuses to get the permits?
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Subject: Re: Bring back capital punishment for some extreme cases – Not Just 3 Strikes Law! Repost
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Now that the PCs are planning to implement a 3 strikes law, why not also
re-introduce the DP?
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, “princeandy”
>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.
> >There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
> >of televising executions.
> >A few more thoughts on the subject.
> >The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
> >execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
> >VICTIMS of the criminals executed.
> >The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
> >not only determine the method of execution, but should also
> >have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.
> >Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
> >but not limited to such, would include:
> > rapists
> > drug dealers
> > AIDS spreaders
> > home invaders
> > armed robbers
> > pederasts and similar child molesters
> > crooked liars/lawyers
> > corrupt judges
> > corrupt politicians
> > insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
> > members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
> > useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
> > criminals being released
> >Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
> > any spreader of any disease,including STD – this would
> > obviously include most faggots
> > white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
> > dollars (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
> > how they would exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)
> >More suggestions for both categories are invited.
> >Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:
> > crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
> > vivisection
> > medical experiments without anaesthetic
> > target practice for police and military
> > beheading
> > hanging
> > barbecueing by electrocution
> > drawing & quartering
> >Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
> > guillotining, very popular in France
> > flaying alive until dead
> > stoning to death – popular in some jurisdictions
> >Suggestions are invited, on all the above points.
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, “princeandy”
>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.
A lot of good ideas!
Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!
Judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!
>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!
>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!
>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.
>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.
>>A few more thoughts on the subject.
>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.
>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.
>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>> AIDS spreaders
>> rapists
>> drug dealers
>> home invaders
>> armed robbers
>> pederasts and similar child molesters
>> crooked liars/lawyers
>> corrupt judges
>> corrupt politicians
>> insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>> members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>> useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>> criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>> any spreader of any disease,including STD – this would
>> obviously include most faggots
>> white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>> dollars (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>> how they would exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)
>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:
>> crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>> vivisection
>> medical experiments without anaesthetic
>> target practice for police and military
>> beheading
>> hanging
>> barbecueing by electrocution
>> drawing & quartering
>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>> guillotining, very popular in France
>> flaying alive until dead
>> stoning to death – popular in some jurisdictions
>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, “Robert Sveinson”
>>
>>>”Roedy Green”
>>>news:[email protected]…
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone’s surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.
>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.
>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.
>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.
>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal. They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.
>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.
>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.
>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.
>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.
>>>> “Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini.”
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament’s human rights commission
>>>> on Bush’s atrocities in the Iraq war.
>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush’s war crimes
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It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
Lieberals, !!
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky
wrote:
Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS,
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!
Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg
>>From: Nemo
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of All Holocausts Of 20th Century–Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin’s Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler’s Nazis.
>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward” and “Cultural Revolution”.
>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.
>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having
>>CHRIST killed!!
>>[email protected] (LisaMcVay) wrote in message
>>news:<[email protected]>…
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!
>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!
>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?
>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.
>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.
>>Canada doesn’t even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930’s.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?
>>Canada doesn’t celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied
>>Australia.
>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS – who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes – do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be exterminated!!
>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!
>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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From: JimMcCarthy
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Subject: McVay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal Engaged in MONEY LAUNDERING & RICO – Repost
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:55:06 -0700, in can.general Frank Arthur
Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
Proof!
Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.
With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!
Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay’s criminality and
money being laundered:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID:
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund — Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
——————————AND——————————-
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two “bogus” funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he’s evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis’ Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay’s Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay’s
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID:
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B’nai Brith’s Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
Message-ID:
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B’nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay’s Nizkor Project in which B’nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, “Venceremos”
>The Accusations
> Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
> Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
> British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
> escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
> February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
> I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
> I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
> deeds of the war.
> While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still
> on my arm
> Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
> uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.
> Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
> Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
> little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
> when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
> (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
> These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
> published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
> “I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
> commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
> in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
> future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
> directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
> political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
> authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.
> This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
> lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
> Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
> collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
> hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
> Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
> camps, the price…was not too high for me.
> “…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
> Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
> While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
> another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
> with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
> he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
> “Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
> a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…
> “As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
> between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
> immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
> would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
> blood to achieve his political goal…
> ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
> this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
> service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
> would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
> concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
> That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
> (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
> Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
> do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
> money and military equipment.”
> Are the accusations against Kastner true?
> According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
> When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
> citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
> Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
> views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
> official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
> Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
> of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
> -88-
KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]
Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER,
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer
>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest…….
>From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>The Kastner Case
>—————–
>Introduction
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>’controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
>rehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>—————-
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>”Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>’I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>”I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
>keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
>That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying ‘In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>————
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>”The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another.”
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>”From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>”Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.” (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>————-
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>”All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>”Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>”The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense.” (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>”If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma’ariv*:
>
>”What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>rehabilitated’.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>————————-
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>”…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>’The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>————————–
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>”I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc – and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>———–
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the ‘dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships’.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>’prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, ‘now dead’. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>——————————————————————-
>Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid
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they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
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As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
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proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
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seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
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Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
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For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
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NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
And also: George Firestone: “George”
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Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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for many years around the world.
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From: JimMcCarthy
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Subject: Israel Safe Haven for ZYD Criminals
Organization: JewWatch
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:38:05 GMT, in can.politics “Kaholicious”
That’s probably true — that Cipal Golan quickly skuttled off to Israel after
that Gov. McGreevey scandal broke in the U.S. a couple years back
“AlX”
news:[email protected]…
>
> The main reason that world Jewry wants Israel to exist – tho many
> Jews are not willing to live there – is as a refuge for Jewish
> fugitives
> from around the world. If a Jewish crook is able to make it to
> Israel, he is home free. Israel will not extradite a Jew to any
> other country to face criminal charges – not even to the U.S.
> without whose support Israel would not even exist.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Israeli 9/11 Crook Flees with $57 Million to Israel
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=91721
> Jacob “Kobi” Alexander, the Israeli founder of Comverse Technology,
> one of the leading Mossad companies involved in the terror attacks has
> fled justice in the United States and escaped to Israel with at least
> $57 million of ill-gotten gains.
> As todays New York Times reports:
> New York – Describing a brazen scheme to manipulate the granting of
> options, federal prosecutors have charged three former executives of
> Comverse Technology with mail fraud, securities fraud and wire fraud.
> In charging the former executives on Tuesday, prosecutors said they
> had used fictitious employees to create a secret slush fund of options
> to be distributed to favored employees.
> The former chief executive, Jacob Alexander, who had built Comverse
> into a $1 billion leader in the communications software market, did
> not appear in court and is believed to have fled to Germany or Israel,
> according to a person briefed on the investigation. A warrant was
> issued for his arrest.
> Alexander is highly regarded in Israel, where he once owned a stake in
> a Tel Aviv professional basketball team and where Comverse has
> extensive business operations.
> In late July, he wired $57 million to an account in Israel, according
> to court filings from the Justice Department. Millions more are
> believed to remain in his accounts in the United States, which
> prosecutors have asked to be frozen.
> http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/10/business/options.php
> (End of quote)
> Kobi Alexander should be arrested and interrogated about his knowledge
> of the events of 9/11. His company acquired the other Mossad firm,
> Odigo, shortly after it was revealed that Odigo employees had been
> forewarned of the attacks on the World Trade Center.
> This is the tip of the Israeli criminal mafia who is behind the terror
> attacks on 9/11.
> Here is a relevant section from one of my articles about Mossad’s
> involvement in 9/11, which I posted on RMN on April 7, 2005:
> At least two Israel-based employees of Odigo received warnings of an
> imminent attack in New York City more than two hours before the first
> plane hit the WTC. Odigo had its U.S. headquarters two blocks from the
> WTC. The Odigo employees, however, did not pass the warning on to the
> authorities in New York City, a move that could have saved thousands
> of lives.
> Odigo has a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out
> and contact others based on certain demographics, such as Israeli
> nationality.
> Two weeks after 9/11, Alex Diamandis, Odigo’s vice president,
> reportedly said, “It was possible that the attack warning was
> broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received
> reports of other recipients of the message.”
> The Internet address of the sender was given to the FBI, and two
> months later it was reported that the FBI was still investigating the
> matter. There have been no media reports since.
> Odigo, like many Israeli software companies, is based and has its
> Research and Development (R&D) center in Herzliya, Israel, the small
> town north of Tel Aviv, which happens to be where Mossad’s
> headquarters are located.
> Shortly after 9/11, Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology,
> another Israeli company. Within a year, five executives from Comverse
> were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider
> trading.”
> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=68985
> Kobi Alexander the Israeli crook who owned the Mossad companies who
> had clear foreknowledge of the terror attacks of 9/11. Alexander
> transferred $57 million to Israel and fled to Israel as a fugitive
> from justice. Why didn’t the police arrest him before he was able to
> get away? Who warned him and allowed him to flee? This man is
> connected to the terror attacks of 9/11.
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Subject: Re: Superstore Prefers Paying Maritimers $5,000 to Paying Locals!! Offers Only $1000 to Locals! Repost
Organization: JewWatch
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:05:11 GMT, Carter
>Tiberius Rex wrote:
>> The key question was:
>> Why should foreigners – i.e. non-Albertans be offered an extra
>> $5,000.00 not offered to locals?
>Probably because it wouldn’t cost that much to get an Albertan to
>relocate to Alberta. You talk as if the $5000 dollars is a gift. It
>is not, it is relocation costs.
It IS a gift, since Superstore refuses to pay such largesse to local residents
of Alberta, to relocate to Deadmonton or wherever their jobs are!!
In fact, Stupidstore is NOW offering a $1,000 bonus to new employees, to be
paid AFTER working 1000 hours.
Want to bet they will terminate workers just before 1000 hours, just to avoid
paying?
>BTW, Maritimers are not exactly foreigners, the happen to live in the
>same country as Albertans.
>Carter
As far as residing in Alberta, they are foreigners.
>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:55:47 GMT, Carter
>>> Tiberius Rex wrote:
>>>> Media this past week have been reporting that Westfair Foods,
>>>> operating as Superstore in Alberta have been trying to recruit people
>>>> from the Maritimes, to work in their stores in Alberta.
>>>>
>>>> They are offering Maritimers, besides wages:
>>>> free round-trip airfares
>>>> one month rent paid by Superstore
>>>> all moving/relocation costs
>>>>
>>>> These add up to around an extr5a $5,000 – which Superstore
>>>> is NOT offering to workers in Alberta!!
>>> Why would Superstore make that offer to Albertans? Albertans already
>>> live in Alberta, Don’t they?
>>>
>>> Carter
>>
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Subject: Making a Meal of It: Meal tax battle heads for high court – Repost
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On 23 Oct 2006 11:17:23 -0700, in can.general “Alan Baggett”
http://www.todaystrucking.com/news.cfm?intDocID=16859
Making a Meal of It: Meal tax battle heads for high court
10/23/2006
SUMMERLAND, B.C. — Failing to convince a B.C. appeals court that not
allowing truck drivers to match the federal government’s $73 daily tax
free meal allowance for civil servants violates the Charter of Rights
and Freedoms, lawyer Tom Johnston and his 2,200-strong band of
meal-tax-crusading truckers are taking the case to the big show — the
Supreme Court of Canada.
Johnston, of Summerland, B.C., launched a class action suit against the
Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) at the B.C. Supreme Court in 2004. He
argued that the shortfall between a federal bureaucrat’s $73 meal
allowance and the $45 daily maximum meal claim (less 50% for a $22.50
daily deduction) allotted to a Canadian trucker under the Income Tax
Act violates the equality sections of the charter.
The Supreme Court will decide if truckers should get as much as Crown
employees for meal expenses “Our argument was that under the Charter,
Sec 15 Equality section, one group of Canadians (federal government
employees) are getting an entitlement not received by other Canadians
and therefore in violation of the equality provisions of the charter,”
says Johnston.
In 2005, Supreme Court Justice Alison Beames struck down the claim,
ruling that the federal government was acting in its role as “employer”
in giving workers the $73 per day meal allowance and therefore entitled
to bestow that benefit. A B.C. appeals court recently backed up the
decision, prompting Johnston to try his luck at the Supreme Court.
All 2,200-plus members of the class action are welcome to join the
Supreme Court appeal for an extra $100. “Plus we’ve had some new people
jump on at this point because they believe so strongly in the cause,”
he says.
Some truckers have been battling CRA over the meal claim rate for
years. The issue heated up after Today’s Trucking’s sister publication
highwaySTAR first broke the story of Don Wilkinson in 2001.
Wilkinson is a Manitoba truck driver who challenged CRA in court,
arguing the $33 a day allowed at the time wasn’t reasonable for his
profession. A judge agreed, granting Wilkinson’s claim of $40 per day,
minus 50 percent.
After the story was published, dozens of truck drivers repeated the
challenge. Because the case wasn’t precedent setting, drivers were
welcomed to make a similar argument, but had to present each case
individually before the court.
In 2003, the Canadian Trucking Alliance (CTA) struck a deal with CRA,
which increased the allowable flat rate truck drivers can deduct from
$33 a day to $45. However, many in the industry thought the increase
was a move to appease truckers and keep mounting challenges at bay.
With only half the amount allowed for deduction, truckers argued they
and many other professionals are still miles apart from government
employees in terms of what they can recoup from meal expenses.
Meanwhile, Johnston’s interest in truckers’ issues doesn’t stop at
meals. The lawyer and a few truckers are forming a lobby group — Keep
Canada Moving — in a bid to keep concerns of truck drivers in the
minds of lawmakers.
Why should the filthy snivel servants get triple what normal taxpayers are
allowed, and without documentation?!!
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Subject: Re: Remembrance Day for ALL – No Special HOLOHOAX Day Just for Zyds! – Repost
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Now the Legion are complaining because an international group of PEACE
activists are sel;ling white poppies.
The Legion feels that they, and the red poppies, should be the only group
making money.
Why did the Legion not complain about the ZYD HOLOHOAX Day when the
Liberals had it, at taxpayer expense?
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:31:31 GMT, ProBonoPublico
>It seems that the government forgot to schedule a national HOLOHOAX Day for
>the ZHIDS April 19 or 20 this year,with all the scandals involving the crooked
>Lieberals, !!
>
>
>On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky
>wrote:
>
>Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
>52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS,
>not forgetting the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
>
>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!
>
>Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg
>>>From: Nemo
>>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of All Holocausts Of 20th Century–Not Just Jews
>>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>>officers at Katyn by Stalin’s Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler’s Nazis.
>>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>>murdered by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward” and “Cultural Revolution”.
>>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>>in world history.
>>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the
>>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>>government.
>>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>>get no such treatment.
>>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and
>>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having
>>>CHRIST killed!!
