Via shaw 10, Grosvenor William 2006 – p10

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, [email protected]
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

Posted by:
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: “George” ,
and [email protected]

Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism “thedarkman”
wrote:

I wouldn’t pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek.
Don’t these people make you wanna laugh?

http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm

Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper “The Guardian,” Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,”Pasque di Sangue” (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper “Corriere Della
Sera,” which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff’s book reportedly “describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ’s execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for ‘magic and
therapeutic practices,'” noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff’s
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of “Rachel” on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah’s interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that “participated in human sacrifice,” undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: …You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who’s been involved and who hasn’t been involved, and it’s
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it’s a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There’s other Jewish families across the country. It’s
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I’ve spoke publicly before, and…

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it’s like if you grow
up with something, you think it’s normal. I always thought
something…

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don’t have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know…

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin’s ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.

Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book “Blood Ritual” by Philip DeVier and the
DVD “Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed,” the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.

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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:12:50 +0000, in de.soc.politik.misc Norman
wrote:

“Dieser Krieg ist für Israel nicht zu gewinnen”

FDP-Außenexperte Wolfgang Gerhardt spricht sich für Einsatz einer
internationalen Friedenstruppe ohne Deutsche aus

Vom 31.07.2006

BERLIN Wolfgang Gerhardt, FDP-Außenexperte und Vorsitzender der
Friedrich-Naumann-Stiftung hält einen sofortigen Waffenstillstand für
dringend geboten. Es sei nicht länger zu leugnen, dass der Krieg im
Libanon zu viele zivile Opfer fordere. Herr Gerhardt, beim jüngsten
israelischen Angriff auf das libanesische Dorf Kana wurden auch 27
Kinder getötet. Der Nahost-Krieg eskaliert weiter. Wo bleibt der
internationale Druck in Richtung Waffenstillstand?

Gerhardt: Jeder weitere Kriegstag ist schrecklich. Je früher ein
Waffenstillstand zustande kommt, desto besser. Ohne eine umfassende
internationale Beteiligung werden die beiden Konfliktparteien zu keiner
friedlichen Lösung kommen. Dieser Krieg ist für Israel militärisch nicht
zu gewinnen. Es kann nur eine politische Lösung geben.

Israels Bombardement trifft nicht nur die Hisbollah-Stellungen, sondern
auch die Zivilbevölkerung.

Gerhardt: Israel macht es seinen Freunden manchmal wirklich sehr schwer.
Es lässt sich nicht länger leugnen, dass die zivilen Opfer leider sehr
sehr hoch sind. Jeder Tote ist ein Toter zu viel, egal auf welcher
Seite. Wir brauchen schnell eine internationale Lösung und den Einsatz
einer internationalen Friedenstruppe. Einen anderen Weg zum Frieden sehe
ich nicht.

Wie sollte das Mandat für die Truppe ausgestaltet werden?

Gerhardt: Es geht nur mit einem klaren und robusten Mandat der Vereinten
Nationen, dem die beiden Konfliktparteien zustimmen müssen. Eine
Friedenstruppe muss im Notfall auch militärische Mittel anwenden können.

Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel lehnt eine deutsche Beteiligung an einer
Nahost-Friedenstruppe ab. Sollte sich Deutschland aus historischen
Gründen zurückhalten?

Gerhardt: Wir sollten hier äußerst zurückhaltend sein. Da sind vor allem
die historischen Gründe. Es darf kein deutscher Soldat in die Situation
gebracht werden, dass er mit israelischen Soldaten oder
Hisbollah-Milizen in einen Konflikt kommt. Ich mag mir nicht vorstellen,
was in einem deutschen Soldaten in einer solchen Situation vorgeht.
Israel hätte sicher Verständnis dafür, wenn sich Deutschland nicht an
einer Friedenstruppe beteiligt. Alle Beteiligten müssen verstehen und
akzeptieren, dass deutsche Soldaten nicht entsandt werden sollten. Aber
es gibt viele Alternativen zur Hilfe.

Welchen Beitrag könnte Berlin leisten?

Gerhardt: Der Konflikt ist sehr vielschichtig. Das Leben der
Palästinenser in den Autonomie-Gebieten muss deutlich verbessert werden.
Die Menschen benötigen eine Perspektive. Hier gilt es, die
wirtschaftliche Lage zu verbessern. Auch im Libanon sollten wir beim
Wiederaufbau helfen.

Bisher sind alle Nahost-Friedenspläne gescheitert. Wie sollte ein neuer
Anlauf aussehen?

Gerhardt: Die USA haben offenbar vor dem Hintergrund des Irak-Krieges zu
wenig Aufmerksamkeit auf Israel und den Konflikt mit den Palästinensern
gelegt. Israel kann dauerhaft nur mit einer Zwei-Staaten-Lösung seine
Zukunft und den Frieden in der Region sichern.

Das Gespräch führte Andreas Herholz.

http://www.wiesbadener-kurier.de/politik/objekt.php3?artikel_id=2471045

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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada “serwad”
wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of Jews in Soviet-era
repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his
writing career – the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together – a reference to the
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the
Russian Jewish population – contains three chapters discussing the Jewish
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet
Russia.

But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book,
and questioned Solzhenitsyn’s motives in writing it, accusing him of factual
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period
“consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians” as being behind the
genocide. But he states that all the nation’s ethnic groups must share the
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: “If I would care to
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The
Jews whose experience I saw – their life was softer than that of others.”

Yet he added: “But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds
were Jews, is certainly incorrect.”

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and
revolutionary genocides – and that its Jewish population should be as
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power
that also persecuted them.

“My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the
psychology of the Jews – their spiritual component,” he said. “I have never
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about
us.”

But Solzhenitsyn’s book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish
leader said it was “not of any merit”.

“This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes,” said Yevgeny
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. “Richard Wagner did
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

“This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit.”

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn’s biographers, said that he did not think
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. “I would not doubt his sincerity. He
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright,
decent, anti-Stalinist people.”

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book,
Solzhenitsyn was “absolutely right”.

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including
the cheka.

“Trotsky’s idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to]
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

“It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn’s book seems much more measured
than that.”

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn’s pursuit of this
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB),
said: “The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

“If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now.”

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Nazi officials under the direction of SS officer Adolf Eichmann
offered to sell the Zionist Aid and Rescue Committee (Vaada), of which
Rudolf Kastner was the de facto leader, exit visas for 600 Jews who
held Palestinian immigration certificates, in exchange for 6.5
million pengö (RM 4,000,000 or $1,600,000).

Rudolf Kastner, who became a government minister in Israel, was
assassinated there in March 1957 following allegations that he had
collaborated with the Nazis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kastner_train

Mirelle

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.

>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.

>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.

>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.

>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini’s
Italy.
>>>Brenner’s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha’avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
‘nationality’
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No! And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.

>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,’assimilation’ of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ‘It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own’
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives ‘both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli’ in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.

# 5 The Kastner Case
ZHID KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS – 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some “controversy” about negotiations he undertook
for “the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment,” but that he was “fully rehabilitated” by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, “I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.”

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price…was not too high for me.

“…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

“Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

“As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal…
‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment.”

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
———————————————————————–
Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
[email protected]

Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.

Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
‘controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
ehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
—————-
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

“Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

‘I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations…I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’.

And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying ‘In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
————
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

“The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.

It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another.”

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

“From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

“Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.” (ibid)

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
————-
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

“All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

“Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
“The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense.” (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
“If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
*Ma’ariv*:
“What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p.
268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Majority Judgement
————————-
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.

Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

“…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which
one can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

n other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The Minority Judgement
————————–
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

“I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc – and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
– nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)

Conclusion
———–
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
‘dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships’.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
‘now dead’.

Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).

Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.

The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.

Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

We shall go on to prove this in detail.
——————————————————————
Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
mail: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, [email protected]
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

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then visit www.freedomsite.org

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together with

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then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

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“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

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then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
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“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
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I seek a qualified buyer of all stock, for cash payable to my bankers.
Approximately $3 million CV, with main areas of interest:
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Germany
Commonwealth
France
USA
Australia
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Switzerland
Israel
etc.

If interested, kindly advise.
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I mean CASH for the buyer to take all, not cheques, drafts, or whatever.

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das zahlbar ist zu unseren Bankiers.
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Australien
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Israel usw.

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Bin in nördlichem Kanada befunden.
P. S. Nigerianisch Scam und ähnlich hat nur als
wertlos nicht beachtet.

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And never forget the ZYD prominente Kollaborateurs such as KASTNER,
RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL!!

On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:45:26 -0400, in alt.revisionism Gallows Cheater
wrote:

http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

Zionism And The Third Reich
By Mark Weber
Institute for Historical Review
2-8-3

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, “Tel
Aviv,” while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the
ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.
Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic
combination as a “metaphysical absurdity.”1 Absurd or not, this is but one
vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging
collaboration between Zionism and Hitler’s Third Reich.

Common Aims

Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the “Jewish question”: that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National
Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue.
They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities,
and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were
therefore to be regarded not as “Germans of the Jewish faith,” but rather
as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism)
also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine,
the “Jewish homeland.” They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any
other “foreign” country.

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that
anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes.
The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in
a separate state of their own. “The Jewish question exists wherever Jews
live in noticeable numbers,” he wrote in his most influential work, The
Jewish State. “Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving
Jews … I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex
phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear.”
The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. “It is a
national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue …” Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews
constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a
Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome “final solution of
the Jewish question.”3

Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by
far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed
memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and
formally offered Zionist support in “solving” the vexing “Jewish question.”
The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental
national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which
consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of
an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one’s own tradition.
Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist
trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear …

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is
now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense
of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its
existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era
must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective
responsibility …

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can,
through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a
decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be
dealt with by most European peoples …

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere
relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities.
Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we,
too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the
Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we — having
been brought up in the German language and German culture — can show an
interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and
internal sympathy …

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of
even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with
the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially
the German people … Boycott propaganda — such as is currently being
carried on against Germany in many ways — is in essence un-Zionist,
because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build …

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue
to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages
result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.
The Federation’s paper, the Jüdische Rundschau (“Jewish Review”),
proclaimed the same message: “Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish
problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this
purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether
pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a
concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all
peoples are interested.”5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later
settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish
Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden (“We Jews”), that the National
Socialist revolution in Germany meant “Jewry for the Jews.” He
explained: “No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we
desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race.” 6

Active Collaboration

On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood,
National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group
believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler
government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine
>from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive
collaboration.

Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a
majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as
Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned
to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement
flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist
Federation’s bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist
books were published. “Zionist work was in full swing” in Germany during
those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in
Berlin in 1936 reflected “in its composition the vigorous party life of
German Zionists.”7

The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
emigration of Germany’s Jews to Palestine. This would require increased
Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish
cultural organizations — in short, everything that would encourage this
new consciousness and self-awareness – should be promoted, the paper
recommended.8

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt
Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist
development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein
wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin
daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading “A Nazi
Travels to Palestine.” The series expressed great admiration for the
pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist
self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding
article, “pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of
the world: the Jewish question.” Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a
Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the
joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS
security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more
effectively. 9

The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for
Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: “The time may not be too far
off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been
lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with
official goodwill, go with them.”10 Four months later, a similar article
appeared in the SS paper: 11

The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on
religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the
racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in
complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the
so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around
the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the
future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.

A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from
Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing “strictly kosher
food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate.” 12 With
official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to “reeducate” Germany’s Jews.
As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third
Reich and the Palestine Question: “Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was
considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying
themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in
them.” 13

In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of
Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: “The Gestapo did
everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine.
We often received their help when we required anything from other
authorities regarding preparations for emigration.” 14

At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called “Nuremberg laws” that prohibited marriages and sexual
relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an
alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15

Germany … is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it
declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the
Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new
laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own
national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own
theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own
future in all aspects of national life …

Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself,
and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish
minority: Jewry’s process of growth into a nation will thereby be
encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more
tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of
both the “Revisionist” Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural
League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an
interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16

For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs
of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living
together without conflict… I have long supported such a separation,
provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg
Laws … seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely
with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect… This
interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities,
which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a
Jewish point of view, entirely welcome.

Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise,
president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress,
told a New York rally in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the
Jewish faith, I am a Jew… Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race.” 17 The Interior Ministry’s Jewish
affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in
an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official
Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18

If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were
settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved
today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the
ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists,
because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct
solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own
state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood.

In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany
where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag,
Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white
Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel
was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler’s Germany. 19

Himmler’s security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah
official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and
for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the
Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to
plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even
included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in
clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November
1938 “Kristallnacht” outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly
helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its
work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22

Official Reservations

German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials
were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities
in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize “their”
governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry
remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long
as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to
resettle in the Zionist “promised land,” a sovereign Jewish state in
Palestine would not really “solve” the international Jewish question.
Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this
dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23

A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June
1937, would not be in Germany’s interest because it would not be able to
absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional
power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served
as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in
official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937
for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply
increasing. 25

A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite
of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, “it would nevertheless be a
mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure
in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German
agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation
of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the
nations of the world.”26 “The proclamation of a Jewish state or a
Jewish-administrated Palestine,” warned an internal memorandum by the
Jewish affairs section of the SS, “would create for Germany a new enemy,
one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East.”
Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state “would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry.”27 In January
1939, Hitler’s new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise
warned in another circular bulletin that “Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous” because it “would bring an international
increase in power to world Jewry.” 28

Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in
spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings
that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state,
decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The
prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the
possible dangers. 29

Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on
Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the
SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of
ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish
migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to
Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were
scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September
brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to
promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized
Zionist “kibbutz” training camp for potential emigrants continued to
operate in Hitler’s Germany. 31

The Transfer Agreement

The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the
Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to
migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Haavara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933 following
talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of
the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.
32

Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited
money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase
German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and
so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to
the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount
corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine
through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a
barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German
timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement
thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development
capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of
freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.

Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the
merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the
international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist
officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the
Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically
advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration
specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that “the
Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no
new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement…” 33 The
1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the
pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist “shadow government” in
Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha’avara, which remained in
effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment.

Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany’s Consul General in
Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on
several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the
foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to
Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and
Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of
German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal
bulletin referred to the “foreign exchange sacrifices” that resulted from
the Haavara. 35

A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed
the impact of the Transfer Agreement: “There is no doubt that the Haavara
arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid
development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the
largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent
group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines
and industrial products essential for development.” The main advantage of
the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to
Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was
concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by
Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded
that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and
that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36

Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the
policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time
decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37

The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company,
the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which
Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine.
Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews
in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish
emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the
Ha’avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for “exchange”)
transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and
Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September
1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39

Achievements of Haavara

Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha’avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten
percent of Germany’s 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews made up
about 15 percent of Palestine’s 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha’avara
emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to
Palestine. As Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: “Many of these
people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual
replicas of their homes and factories — indeed rough replicas of their
very existence.”40

The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the Ha’avara
between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million pounds or 139.57
million German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This
amount included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have flowed
into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements and special
international banking transactions. The German funds had a major impact on
a country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed out.
Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile firm. The
influx of Ha’avara goods and capital, concluded Black, “produced an
economic explosion in Jewish Palestine” and was “an indispensable factor in
the creation of the State of Israel.”42

The Ha’avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli state. A
January 1939 German Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some
misgiving, that “the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through
the Ha’avara agreement] contributed to no small extent to the building of a
Jewish state in Palestine.”43

Former officials of the Ha’avara company in Palestine confirmed this view in
a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972: “The economic
activity made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara
transfers to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for
the country’s development. Many new industries and commercial enterprises
were established in Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are
enormously important even today in the economy of the State of Israel owe
their existence to the Haavara.”44

Dr. Ludwig Pinner, a Ha’avara company official in Tel Aviv during the 1930s,
later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha’avara
immigrants “decisively contributed” to the economic, social, cultural and
educational development of Palestine’s Jewish community.45

The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation
between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact,
Hitler’s Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to
support Jewish development in Palestine.

Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a
formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political
alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical
underground “Fighters for the Freedom of Israel,” better known as the Lehi
or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the
radical nationalist “National Military Organization” (Irgun Zvai Leumi)
over the group’s attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned
further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main
enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable Zionist proposal “for the solution of the Jewish question in
Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the
side of Germany” is worth quoting at some length:46

In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe requires
as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question by evacuation.
(“Jew-f ree Europe”)

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state in its
historical boundaries.

The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the Israel
Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun
Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this way and thus completely
liberate the Jewish people forever.

The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany and
the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:

1. Common interests can exist between a European New Order based on the
German concept and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as
embodied by the NMO.

2. Cooperation is possible between the New Germany and a renewed, folk
ish-national Jewry [Hebr_ertum].

3. The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and
totalitarian basis, and bound by treaty with the German Reich, would be in
the interest of maintaining and strengthening the future German position of
power in the Near East.

On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German
Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom
Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part
in the war on the side of Germany.

This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational
activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures,
outside as well. Along with this the Jewish men of Europe would be
militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and
command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the
purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front by formed.

The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order
of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a
positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem on the basis of
the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would
greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all
humanity.

The cooperation of the Israel Freedom Movement would also be consistent with
a recent speech by the German Reich Chancellor, in which Hitler stressed
that he would utilize any combination and coalition in order to isolate and
defeat England.

There is no record of any German response. Acceptance was very unlikely
anyway because by this time German policy was decisively pro-Arab.47
Remarkably, Stern’s group sought to conclude a pact with the Third Reich at
a time when stories that Hitler was bent on exterminating Jews were already
in wide circulation. Stern apparently either did not believe the stories or
he was willing to collaborate with the mortal enemy of his people to help
bring about a Jewish state. 48

An important Lehi member at the time the group made this offer was Yitzhak
Shamir, who later served as Israel’s Foreign Minister and then, during much
of the 1980s and until June 1992, as Prime Minister. As Lehi operations
chief following Stern’s death in 1942, Shamir organized numerous acts of
terror, including the November 1944 assassination of British Middle East
Minister Lord Moyne and the September 1948 slaying of Swedish United
Nations mediator Count Bernadotte. Years later, when Shamir was asked about
the 1941 offer, he confirmed that he was aware of his organization’s
proposed alliance with wartime Germany. 49

Conclusion

In spite of the basic hostility between the Hitler regime and international
Jewry, for several years Jewish Zionist and German National Socialist
interests coincided. In collaborating with the Zionists for a mutually
desirable and humane solution to a complex problem, the Third Reich was
willing to make foreign exchange sacrifices, impair relations with Britain
and anger the Arabs. Indeed, during the 1930s no nation did more to
substantively further Jewish-Zionist goals than Hitler’s Germany.

Notes

1.W. Martini, “Hebr_isch unterm Hakenkreuz,” Die Welt (Hamburg), Jan. 10,
1975. Cited in: Klaus Polken, “The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi
Germany, 1933-1941,” Journal of Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, p.
65. 2.Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen: Die “Reichskristallnacht”
(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), p. 212. See also: Th. Herzl, The Jewish State
(New York: Herzl Press, 1970), pp. 33, 35, 36, and, Edwin Black, The
Transfer Agreement (New York: Macmillan, 1984), p. 73. 3.Th. Herzl, “Der
Kongress,” Welt, June 4, 1897. Reprinted in: Theodor Herzls zionistische
Schriften (Leon Kellner, ed.), erster Teil, Berlin: Jüdischer Verlag, 1920,
p. 190 (and p. 139). 4.Memo of June 21, 1933, in: L. Dawidowicz, A
Holocaust Reader (New York: Behrman, 1976), pp. 150-155, and (in part) in:
Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin:
Univ. of Texas, 1985), p. 42.; On Zionism in Germany before Hitler’s
assumption of power, see: Donald L. Niewyk, The Jews in Weimar Germany
(Baton Rouge: 1980), pp. 94-95, 126-131, 140-143.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich
(Austin: 1985), pp. 1-15. 5.Jüdische Rundschau (Berlin), June 13, 1933.
Quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death’s Head (New York:
Ballantine, pb., 1971, 1984), pp. 376-377. 6.Heinz Höhne, The Order of the
Death’s Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 376. 7.”Berlin,” Encyclopaedia
Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971), Vol. 5, p. 648. For a look at one
aspect of this “vigorous life,” see: J.-C. Horak, “Zionist Film Propaganda
in Nazi Germany,” Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television, Vol. 4,
No. 1, 1984, pp. 49-58. 8.Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), pp. 54-55.; Karl A. Schleunes, The Twisted Road
to Auschwitz (Urbana: Univ. of Illinois, 1970, 1990), pp. 178-181. 9.Jacob
Boas, “A Nazi Travels to Palestine,” History Today (London), January 1980,
pp. 33-38. 10.Facsimile reprint of front page of Das Schwarze Korps, May
15, 1935, in: Janusz Piekalkiewicz, Israels Langer Arm (Frankfurt: Goverts,
1975), pp. 66-67. Also quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death’s
Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 377. See also: Erich Kern, ed.,
Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: FZ-Verlag, 1988), p. 184. 11.Das Schwarze
Korps, Sept. 26, 1935. Quoted in: F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), pp. 56-57. 12.Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age
of the Dictators (1983), p. 83. 13.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), p. 60. See also: F. Nicosia, “The Yishuv and the
Holocaust,” The Journal of Modern History (Chicago), Vol. 64, No. 3, Sept.
1992, pp. 533-540. 14.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine
Question (1985), p. 57. 15.Jüdische Rundschau, Sept. 17, 1935. Quoted in:
Yitzhak Arad, with Y. Gutman and A. Margaliot, eds., Documents on the
Holocaust (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, 1981), pp. 82-83. 16.Der Angriff, Dec.
23, 1935, in: E. Kern, ed., Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: 1988), p.
148.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 56.; L. Brenner, Zionism in the
Age of the Dictators (1983), p. 138.; A. Margaliot, “The Reaction…,” Yad
Vashem Studies (Jerusalem), vol. 12, 1977, pp. 90-91.; On Kareski’s
remarkable career, see: H. Levine, “A Jewish Collaborator in Nazi Germany,”
Central European History (Atlanta), Sept. 1975, pp. 251-281. 17.”Dr. Wise
Urges Jews to Declare Selves as Such,” New York Herald Tribune, June 13,
1938, p. 12. 18.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), p. 53. 19.Lucy
Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb.,
1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, “Zionism Under Hitler,” Congress Weekly
(New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The
Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement
(1984), p. 175. 20.H. H_hne, The Order of the Death’s Head (Ballantine,
pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.;
Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in:
John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp.
62-64. 21.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220. 22.F.
Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160. 23.This distinction is also implicit
in the “Balfour Declaration” of November 1917, in which the British
government expressed support for “a national home for the Jewish people” in
Palestine, while carefully avoiding any mention of a Jewish state.
Referring to the majority Arab population there, the Declaration went on to
caution, “…it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which
may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish
communities in Palestine.” The complete text of the Declaration is
reproduced in facsimile in: Robert John, Behind the Balfour Declaration
(IHR, 1988), p. 32. 24.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 121. 25.F.
Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 124. 26.David Yisraeli, The Palestine
Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Bar-Ilan University, Israel, 1974),
p. 300.; Also in: Documents on German Foreign Policy, Series D, Vol. 5.
Doc. No. 564 or 567. 27.K. Schleunes, The Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p.
209. 28.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS.
International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before
the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), vol. 32, pp.
242-243. Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression (Washington, DC: 1946-1948), vol.
6, pp. 92-93. 29.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 141-144.; On Hitler’s
critical view of Zionism in Mein Kampf, see esp. Vol. 1, Chap. 11. Quoted
in: Robert Wistrich, Hitler’s Apocalypse (London: 1985), p. 155.; See also:
F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 26-28.; Hitler told his army adjutant
in 1939 and again in 1941 that he had asked the British in 1937 about
transferring all of Germany’s Jews to Palestine or Egypt. The British
rejected the proposal, he said, because it would cause further disorder.
See: H. v. Kotze, ed., Heeresadjutant bei Hitler (Stuttgart: 1974), pp. 65,
95. 30.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 156, 160-164, 166-167.; H.
H_hne, The Order of the Death’s Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 392-394.;
Jon and David Kimche, The Secret Roads (London: Secker and Warburg, 1955),
pp. 39-43. See also: David Yisraeli, “The Third Reich and Palestine,”
Middle Eastern Studies, October 1971, p. 347.; Bernard Wasserstein, Britain
and the Jews of Europe, 1939-1945 (1979), pp. 43, 49, 52, 60.; T.
Kelly, “Man who fooled Nazis,” Washington Times, April 28, 1987, pp. 1B,
4B. Based on interview with Willy Perl, author of The Holocaust Conspiracy.
31.Y. Arad, et al., eds., Documents On the Holocaust (1981), p. 155. (The
training kibbutz was at Neuendorf, and may have functioned even after March
1942.) 32.On the Agreement in general, see: Werner Feilchenfeld, et al.,
Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972).; David
Yisraeli, “The Third Reich and the Transfer Agreement,” Journal of
Contemporary History (London), No. 2, 1971, pp. 129-148.; “Haavara,”
Encyclopaedia Judaica (1971), vol. 7, pp. 1012-1013.; F. Nicosia, The Third
Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin: 1985), pp. 44-49.; Raul Hilberg,
The Destruction of the European Jews (New York: Holmes and Meier, 1985),
pp. 140-141.; The Transfer Agreement, by Edwin Black, is detailed and
useful. However, it contains numerous inaccuracies and wildly erroneous
conclusions. See, for example, the review by Richard S. Levy in Commentary,
Sept. 1984, pp. 68-71. 33.E. Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 328,
337. 34.On opposition to the Haavara in official German circles, see: W.
Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972), pp. 31-33.;
D. Yisraeli, “The Third Reich,” Journal of Contemporary History, 1971, pp.
136-139.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question, pp.
126-139.; I. Weckert, Feuerzeichen (1981), pp. 226-227.; Rolf Vogel, Ein
Stempel hat gefehlt (Munich: Droemer Knaur, 1977), pp. 110 ff. 35.W.
Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 31. Entire text in: David
Yisraeli, The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel:
1974), pp. 298-300. 36.Interior Ministry internal memo (signed by State
Secretary W. Stuckart), Dec. 17, 1937, in: Helmut Eschwege, ed.,
Kennzeichen J (Berlin: 1966), pp. 132-136. 37.W. Feilchenfeld, et al,
Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 32. 38.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp.
376-377. 39.E. Black, Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 376, 378.; F. Nicosia,
Third Reich (1985), pp. 238-239 (n. 91). 40.E. Black, Transfer Agreement,
p. 379.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich, pp. 212, 255 (n. 66). 41.W. Feilchenfeld,
et al., Haavara-Transfer, p. 75.; “Haavara,” Encyclopaedia Judaica, (1971),
Vol. 7, p. 1013. 42.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp. 379, 373, 382.
43.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS. International
Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the
International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), Vol. 32, pp.
242-243. 44.Werner Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina
(Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972). Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen
(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), pp. 222-223. 45.W. Feilchenfeld, et al.,
Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972). Quoted in: I. Weckert,
Feuerzeichen (1981), p. 224. 46.Original document in German Ausw_rtiges Amt
Archiv, Bestand 47-59, E 224152 and E 234155-58. (Photocopy in author’s
possession).; Complete original German text published in: David Yisraeli,
The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel: 1974), pp.
315-317. See also: Klaus Polkhen, “The Secret Contacts,” Journal of
Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, pp. 78-80.; (At the time this offer
was made, Stern’s Lehi group still regarded itself as the true Irgun/NMO.)
47.Arab nationalists opposed Britain, which then dominated much of the Arab
world, including Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. Because Britain and Germany
were at war, Germany cultivated Arab support. The leader of Palestine’s
Arabs, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini, worked closely
with Germany during the war years. After escaping from Palestine, he spoke
to the Arab world over German radio and helped raise Muslim recruits in
Bosnia for the Waffen SS. 48.Israel Shahak, “Yitzhak Shamir, Then and Now,”
Middle East Policy (Washington, DC), Vol. 1, No. 1, (Whole No. 39), 1992,
pp. 27-38.; Yehoshafat Harkabi, Israel’s Fateful Hour (New York: Harper and
Row, 1988), pp. 213-214. Quoted in: Andrew J. Hurley, Israel and the New
World Order (Santa Barbara, Calif.: 1991), pp. 93, 208-209.; Avishai
Margalit, “The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir,” New York Review of Books,
May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, “Yitzhak Shamir: On Hitler’s Side,” Arab
Perspectives (League of Arab States), March 1984, pp. 11-13. 49.Avishai
Margalit, “The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir,” New York Review of Books,
May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, “Skeletons in Shamir’s Cupboard,” Middle East
International, Sept. 30, 1983, pp. 15-16.; Sol Stern, L.
Rapoport, “Israel’s Man of the Shadows,” Village Voice (New York), July 3,
1984, pp. 13 ff.


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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:59:13 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc egon-karl ullrich
wrote:

Ein Teil der Auflösung des ‘Rätsel – ja-wie-kann-denn-der-sowas-sagen-?’
ist ja bereits veröffentlicht im Artikelstran “Der Jude ist ein Parasit”
(wer lesen kann und will ist klar im Vorteil, der meist dämliche Spruch
trifft hier mal wirklich zu), dort gibts auch ein zion. Original-Buch
zum runterladen:

Es handelt sich in den “Subjects” um Zitate aus der zionistischen
Literatur von zionistischen Philosophen und zion. Vordenkern bzw. aus
der unangefochtenen Fachliteratur über den Zionismus bzw. über die zion.
Ideologie. Und die zitierten sind noch harmlos, statt “dreckiger Hund”,
kann man auch übersetzen “stinkender Hund”, lt. ‘LEO.dict’

Wer meine Schriften kennt, dem war das auch von Anfang an klar. Anfänger
und Deppen gibts aber auch hier in dieser NG.

Hier der Beweis aus dem marxistischen Bereich (eigentl. jüd.-marx.
Bereich) des Herkunftsjuden Lenni Brenner, Wissenschaftsjournalist:

(aus dem Englischen)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Lenni Brenner

Zionismus im Zeitalter der Diktatoren
(Zionism in the Age of the Dictators)

2. Blut und Boden (Blood and Soil)

Die Wurzeln des zionistischen Rassismus

Es war der Antisemitismus – alleine – welcher den Zionismus begründete.
Herzl konnte seine Bewegung in keiner Weise auf irgendeinem positiven
jüdischen Selbstverständnis aufbauen.

Obwohl er die Unterstützung durch die Rabbiner anstrebte, war er
persönlich nicht gläubig. Er hatte kein besonderes Interesse an
Palästina, dem antiken Heimatland; er war ganz erpicht darauf, daß das
kenianische Hochland akzeptiert wird, zumindest auf einer zeitweiligen
Grundlage. Er hatte kein Interesse an Hebräisch; er betrachtete seinen
jüdischen Staat als ein sprachliches Abbild der Schweiz.

Der Rassengedanke lag für ihn in der Luft; die deutschen Antisemiten
sprachen von den Juden als Rasse, bald jedoch verwarf er diese Doktrin
und nutzte in einer paradoxen Diskussion Israel Zangwill, einen seiner
frühesten Gefolgsleute, als ein Beispiel für seine Ablehnung dieser
Idee. Er beschrieb den englisch-jüdischen Autor so:

“… vom langnasigen Neger-Typ, mit wolligem, tief-schwarzem Haar … er
stützt jedoch den Rassegedanken – manches daran kann ich gelten lassen,
ich muß lediglich ihn und dann wieder mich anschauen. Alles was ich
sagen kann: wir sind eine historische Einheit, eine Nation mit
anthropologischer Vielfalt.” [1]

Unbekümmert von religiösen Überlegungen, schlug er einen Atheisten, den
damals weltberühmten Autor Max Nordau, als seinen Nachfolger als
Präsident der WZO (Zionistische Weltorganisation) vor.

Und wieder waren die Jünger weniger liberal als ihr Herr.

Nordau war mit einer Christin verheiratet und befürchtete, daß sich die
Orthodoxen auf allen Ebenen daran stoßen würden. Er war bereits
verheiratet, als er zum Zionismus konvertierte und wurde bald, trotz
seiner nichtjüdischen Ehefrau, ein anerkannter jüdischer Rassist.

Am 21. Dezember 1903 gab er Eduard Drumonts radikal antisemitischer
Zeitung ‘La Libre Parole’ ein Interview, in welchem er sagte, daß der
Zionismus keine Sache der Religion sondern der Rassen-Exklusivität sei
und “es gibt keinen, mit welchem ich in größerer Übereinstimmung in
diesem Punkt stehe, als M. Drupont”. [3]

Obwohl sich nur ein einziger nationaler Ableger der WZO (der
holländische Verband im Jahr 1913) jemals darum bemühte, die Juden,
welche in gemischten Ehen lebten, auszuschließen, starb der
kosmopolitische Zionismus einen frühen Tod mit Herzl im Jahr 1904. [4]

Die Bewegung in Osteuropa, ihre Massenbasis, teilte die spontanen
volks-religiösen Vorurteile der orthodoxen Gemeinden ihres Umfeldes.

Obwohl die traditionellen Juden Missionierung kannten und Ehen mit
Nicht-Juden als Verstärkung ihrer Glaubenskraft ansahen, brachte später
von der katholischen Kirche ausgehender Druck die Rabbiner dazu,
Konvertierungen als “lästiges Jucken” zu betrachten und sie stellten die
Missionierung ein.

Im Laufe der Jahrhunderte, wurde die Selbst-Abgrenzung zum Kennzeichen
der Juden. Mit der Zeit betrachteten die Massen Mischehen als Verrat an
der Orthodoxie. Obwohl im Westen nur manche Juden die Religion
abwandelten und “Reform”-Sekten bildeten sowie andere sich vom Gott
ihrer Vorväter gänzlich abwandten, ging der Lauf im Wesentlichen weg vom
Judaismus.

Wenige nur stießen zur jüdischen Welt hinzu, entweder durch
Konvertierung oder Heiraten.

Obschon der westliche Zionismus sich in einer mehr säkularen Atmosphäre
entwickelte als jener Ost-Europas, betrachtete die Masse seiner
Mitglieder Misch-Ehen eher als Wegführung der Juden von der Gemeinde
denn als Hinzufügung zu ihr.

Die deutschen Akademiker, welche die zionistische Bewegung nach Herzls
Tod übernahmen, entwickelten die modernistisch-rassistische Ideologie
vom jüdischen Separatismus [Loslösungsstreben].

Sie waren stark beeinflußt von ihren pan-germanischen Studenten-Kollegen
der ‘Wandervögel’ (Zugvögel oder Freigeister), welche den deutschen
Campus vor 1914 dominierten. Diese Chauvinisten wiesen die Juden als
nicht von germanischem Blut zurück; folglich konnten sie niemals Teil
des Deutschen Volkes sein und waren grundsätzlich Fremde auf deutschem
Boden. Alle jüdischen Studenten waren gezwungen, sich mit diesen
Konzepten, welche sie umringten, auseinander zu setzen.

Ein paar bewegten sich nach links und wurden Sozialdemokraten. Für jene
war dies [der Wandervögel-Chauvinismus, Anm. eku] nur ein mehr
bourgeoiser Nationalismus und war als solcher zu bekämpfen.

Die meisten blieben herkömmlich kaisertreu, standhafte Nationalisten,
welche darauf beharrten, daß tausend Jahre auf deutschem Boden aus ihnen
“Deutsche mosaischen Glaubens” gemacht hatten.

Aber ein Anteil der jüdischen Studenten eignete sich die
‘Wandervögel’-Ideologie an und übertrug sie einfach in zionistische
Terminologie.

Sie stimmten mit den Antisemiten in mehreren Punkten überein: die Juden
waren kein Teil des Deutschen Volkes und, natürlich, Juden und Deutsche
sollten sich nicht geschlechtlich vermischen, nicht aus den traditionell
religiösen Gründen, sondern um der Reinheit ihres eigenen einzigartigen
Blutes willen.

Da nicht von deutschem Blut, hätten sie zwangsläufig ihren eigenen Boden
zu bekommen: Palästina.

Auf den ersten Blick schien es befremdlich, daß jüdische Studenten aus
der Mittel-Klasse derart beeinflußt durch antisemitisches Gedankengut
sein sollten, besonders, da zur selben Zeit der Sozialismus mit seiner
assimilationistischen Haltung gegenüber den Juden beträchtliche
Unterstützung in der Gesellschaft um sie herum gewann.

Der Sozialismus appelierte jedoch vorwiegend an die Arbeiter, nicht an
die Mittel-Klasse; in ihrer Umwelt herrschte der Chauvinismus vor,
obwohl intellektuell, lehnten sie ihre Verbindung zum Deutschen Volk ab,
und in der Tat, niemals emanzipierten sie sich von der deutschen
Kapitalistenklasse, den ganzen Ersten Weltkrieg hindurch unterstüzten
sie leidenschaftlich ihre eigene Regierung.

[Anm. eku: s.a. “Max-Bodenheimer-Archiv”. Deutsche Zionisten bilden im
1. WK mittels maßgeblicher Beteiligung der Kölner Fam. Bodenheimer
(=zionistisches Establishment) Unterstützungskommitee, dieses reist an
die Ostfront, bildet Judenräte in den befreiten Gebieten Polens, nennt
die Juden Europas “Deutsche” oder “deutschenfreundlich” und – nicht
zuletzt – sitzt buchstäblich als Ehren-Gast an Kaisers Esstisch!]

In all ihrem grandiosen intellektuellen Anspruch, war ihr völkischer
Zionismus doch nur einfach eine Imitation der deutschen
nationalistischen Ideologie. Deshalb war der junge Philosoph Martin
Buber fähig, während dem Ersten Weltkrieg den Zionismus mit inbrünstigem
deutschen Patriotismus zu verbinden.

In seinem Buch ‘Drei Reden über das Judentum’, veröffentlicht im Jahre
1911, sprach Buber über einen Jugendlichen, der:

“einen Sinn hat für die Unsterblichkeit der Generationen einer
Blutgemeinschaft, welche er als Vorgänger seines Ich empfindet, dessen
Ausdauer wird unendlich währen.

Hinzu kommt die Entdeckung, befördert durch sein Bewußtsein, daß Blut
eine tief verwurzelte, nährende Kraft im Inneren jedes einzelnen
Menschen ist;

daß die tiefsten Schichten unseres Seins vom Blut bestimmt sind;

daß unser innerstes Denken und unser Wille davon gefärbt sind.

Jetzt findet er heraus, daß die Welt um ihn eine Welt der Eindrücke und
Einflüsse ist, wohingegen Blut das Reich einer beeinflußbaren und
beeindruckbaren Substanz ist, einer Sustanz die alles in ihre eigene
Form aufnimmt und anpasst, und, wer auch immer, vor die Wahl, Umgebung
oder Blut gestellt, sich für die Substanz entscheidet, fortan ein wahrer
Jude aus seinem Innersten sein muß, um zu leben als ein Jude mit all den
Widersprüchen, der Tragödie und all der späteren Verheißung seines
Blutes” [5]

[Anm. eku: naturgemäß unvollkommene Rückübersetzung, werde noch
versuchen, den Originaltext Bubers zu bekommen…]

Die Juden leben in Europa seit Jahrtausenden, weit länger, sagen wir
mal, als die Ungarn. Niemand träumte davon, sich auf die Ungarn als
Asiaten zu beziehen, jedoch, so Buber, die Juden Europas wären noch
Asiaten und würden es voraussichtlich immer bleiben.

“Du kannst den Juden aus Palästina rauskriegen, aber niemals Palästina
raus aus dem Juden.”

Im Jahr 1916 schrieb Buber, daß der Jude:

“vertrieben wurde aus seinem Land und über die Länder des Abendlandes
verstreut wurde, jedoch, trotz all dem, blieb er ein Orientale. Man kann
all dies im noch so sehr assimlierten Juden entdecken, wenn man Zugang
zu seiner Seele gewinnt … der unvergängliche, allen Juden gemeinsame
Trieb – dieser wird in das Sein einkehren nach einer Fortdauer des
Lebens in Palästina … Sobald der Trieb mit seiner Mutters Scholle in
Berührung kommt, wird er wieder schöpferisch.” [6]

Bubers völkischer Zionismus, mit seinen ausgesuchten Strängen mystischen
Überschwangs, war jedoch zu vergeistigt um ein breites Publikum
anzusprechen.

Was gebraucht wurde, war eine populäre zionistische Version des
Sozial-Darwinismus, welcher die bourgoise intellektuelle Welt des
aufbrechenden europäischen imperialen Wettbewerbs nach Afrika und nach
Osten überschwemmte.

Die zionistische Version dieser Auffassung wurde von dem
österreichischen Anthropologen Ignatz Zollschan entwickelt. Für ihn war
der verborgene Nutzen des Judaismus, daß jener, obgleich unabsichtlich,
das Wunder der Wunder bewirken würde:

“Eine Nation von reinem Blut, unverdorben von den Krankheiten des
Exzesses oder der Unmoral, von einem hoch entwickelten Sinn für
familiäre Reinheit und von tief verwurzelten tugendhaften Gewohnheiten
würde eine außergewöhnliche geistige Regsamkeit entwickeln.
Darüberhinaus sorgt das Verbot der Mischehen dafür, daß dieser
höchst-ethische Schatz durch reinmixen von weniger umsichtig
hervorgebrachten Rassen nicht verloren geht … daraus resultiert eine
naturgemäße Auswahl, welche keine Parallele in der Geschichte der
menschlichen Rasse findet … Wenn eine Rasse, die so hoch beschenkt
ist, die Gelegenheit bekommt, erneut ihre ursprüngliche Kraft zu
entwickeln, kann dem nichts gleichkommen, soweit es den kulturellen Wert
anbelangt.” [7]

Sogar Albert Einstein unterschrieb die zionistischen Rassenkonzepte,
damit verstärkte er den Rassismus und verlieh ihm das Prestige seiner
Reputation. Seine eigenen Beiträge zur Diskussion klingen entsprechend
tiefsinnig, sie beruhen jedoch auf dem selben Unsinn.

“Nationen mit rassischen Unterschieden scheinen Instinkte zu besitzen,
welche gegen ihre Verschmelzung wirken. Die Assimilation der Juden in
die europäischen Nationen … konnte nicht das Gefühl eines Mangels an
Verwandtschaft zwischen ihnen und jenen, unter denen sie lebten,
beseitigen. Letzten Endes ist das instinktive Gefühl des fehlenden
Verwandschaftsverhältnisses auf das Gesetz der Energieerhaltung
zurückzuführen. Aus diesem Grund kann es [das instinktive Mangelgefühl,
Anm. eku] durch keinen noch so wohlmeinenden Druck ausgerottet werden.” [8]

Buber, Zollschan und Einstein waren nur drei der klassischen Zionisten,
welche hochtrabend gelehrt über Rassen-Reinheit redeten. Jedoch konnte
der schiere Fanatismus Einiger nicht den des Amerikaners Maurice Samuel
einholen.

Als ein gut bekannter Autor jener Zeit – später, in den 1940er Jahren
arbeitete er mit Weizman an dessen Autobiographie – wendete sich Samuel
im Jahre 1927 in seinem Werk, ‘Ich, der Jude’, an die amerikanische
Öffentlichkeit. Er denunzierte mit Horror eine Stadt, der er
bereitwillig zugestand, daß er sie nur vom Hörensagen kannte – und von
der uns die vorgelegten Hinweise nahelegen, daß es sich um die
ungebunden lebende Künstler-Kolonie bei Taos, Neu-Mexiko, handelt:

“Auf diesem kleinen Platz kamen Repräsentanten der afrikanischen Neger,
der Amerikaner und der chinesischen Mongolen zusammen, der Semite und
der Arier … freie Mischehen setzen sich durch … Warum erfüllt mich
dieses Bild, teils wirklich, teils phantastisch, mit einem befremdenden
Abscheu, suggeriert es das Ekelerregende, das düstere Bestialische? …
Wieso ruft dieses Dorf, wie meine Phantasie heraufbeschwört, den
Gedanken an einen Haufen Reptilien hervor, die hässlich in einem
Wasserkübel brüten?” [9]

“Um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit sein”

Obwohl ‘Blut’ ein wiederkehrendes Thema in der zionistischen
vor-Holokaust-Literatur war, war dieses nicht so zentral wie die
Botschaft vom ‘Boden’.

Solange Amerikas Grenzen [relativ, Anm. eku] offen blieben, fragten
Europas Juden: wenn der Antisemitismus nicht in seiner Heimat bekämpft
werden konnte, warum sollten sie nicht einfach der Menge nach Amerika
folgen?

Die zionistische Antwort war doppelt gewappnet: Antisemitismus würde die
Juden begleiten, wohin immer sie auch gingen, und, darüberhinaus, es
waren die Juden selbst, welche den Antisemitismus durch ihre eigene
Charackteristik hervor riefen.

Die Wurzel des Antisemitismus, beharrten die Zionisten, war die jüdische
Exil-Existenz.

Die Juden lebten parasitär von ihren “Wirtsvölkern”. Es gäbe so gut wie
keine jüdischen Bauern in der Diaspora. Die Juden lebten in den Städten,
sie waren der manuellen Arbeit entfremdet, oder, um es unverblümt zu
sagen, sie mieden diese und beschäftigten sich lieber mit
intellektuellen oder kommerziellen Angelegenheiten. Ihre Beanspruchung
des Patriotismus war bestenfalls hohl, da sie ewig von Land zu Land
wanderten. Und als sie selbst sich einbildeten, sie wären Sozialisten
und Internationalisten, waren sie in Wirklichkeit nicht mehr als die
Mittelsmänner der Revolution, welche die “Schlachten anderer Leute”
ausfochten.

Diese zusammengefaßten Lehren waren bekannt als ‘Shelilat Ha’galut’ [Die
Verneinung der Diaspora], an der sich das gesamte Spektrum der Zionisten
festhielt, nur in Details variiert.

Sie wurden in der zionistischen Presse energisch vertreten, in der die
ausgeprägte Qualität vieler Artikel aus der Feindseligkeit gegenüber dem
gesamten jüdischen Volk bestand. Wenn irgendjemand diese Fetzen ohne
Kenntnis der Quellen las, würde er automatisch vermuten, daß sie der
antisemitischen Presse entstammten.

Die ‘Weltanschauung’ der Jugendorganisation ‘Hashomer Hatzair’ [Junge
Wächter], ursprünglich verfaßt im Jahr 1917, allerdings erst 1936 wieder
neu veröffentlicht, war typisch für diese Art Ergüsse:

“Der Jude ist die Karikatur eines normalen, natürlichen Menschen, in
physischer wie spiritueller Hinsicht. Als Einzelwesen in der
Gesellschaft rebelliert er und wirft die gesellschaftlichen Bindungen
ab, er kennt weder Ordnung noch Disziplin.” [10]

Ganz ähnlich konnte so im Jahre 1935 Ben Frommer, ein Autor der
ultra-rechten zionistisch-revisionistischen Bewegung, nicht weniger als
16 Millionen seiner Mit-Juden [offenbar wurde seine Erklärung weltweit
verbreitet, Anm. eku] erklären, daß:

“Die Tatsache ist unabweisbar, daß die Juden kollektiv krank und
neurotisch sind. Jene Berufs-Juden, welche nun erschüttert diese
Wahrheit entrüstet zurückweisen, sind die größten Feinde ihrer Rasse,
denn sie führen sie dadurch auf die Suche nach falschen Lösungen oder
zumeist nur nach Beschönigungen.” [11]

Diese Art des jüdischen Selbsthasses durchsetzte einen großen Teil des
zionistischen Schrifttums.

Im Jahre 1934 erregte Yehezkel Kaufman – damals berühmt als Gelehrter
für biblische Geschichte an der Hebräischen Universität zu Jerusalem,
und obwohl selbst Zionist, dennoch ein Gegner der bizarren Theorie der
Negation der Diaspora – wütende Kontroversen durch eine Auswahl der
hebräischen Literatur mit noch schlimmeren Beispielen.

Auf Hebräisch konnten die pathetischen Schreiber ihre Mit-Juden ohne
Furcht vor dem Vorwurf, den Judenhassern Munition zu liefern, regelrecht
zur Sau machen. Kaufmans ‘Hurban Hanefesh’ (Holokaust der Seele) zitiert
dazu drei der klassisch-zionistischen Vordenker.

Für Micah Yosef Berdichevsky waren die Juden “keine Nation, kein Volk,
keine Menschen”.

Für Yosef Chaim Brenner waren sie nicht mehr als “Zigeuner, dreckige
Hunde, nicht-menschlich, erbärmliche Hunde”.

Für Aaron David Gordon war sein Volk nicht besser als “Parasiten,
grundsätzlich unnütze Leute”. [12]

[Anm. eku: dieses Buch Kaufmans, wohl als eine Kritik an den
zionistischen Pöbeleien gemeint, hatte Julius Streicher lt. Text der
Webseite der frommen, ultra-orthodoxen Juden, JewsAgainstZionism,
gekannt, aus dieser Quell hatte Streicher offenbar eine Reihe seiner
Beschreibungen und Ausdrücke für die Juden gewonnen]

Natürlich mußte Maurice Samuel seine Schönschrift einbringen, um
Verleumdungen gegen seine Mit-Juden zusammen zu brauen.

Im Jahr 1924 fabrizierte er in seinem Werk ‘Ihr Nicht-Juden’ (You
Gentiles) eine von ihrem eigenen bösartigen Schöpfer gegen die
christliche Ordnung angetriebene Judenheit:

“Wir Juden, wir, die Zerstörer, werden für immer die Zerstörer bleiben.
Egal was ihr macht, nie wird es unserem Anspruch genügen. Ewig werden
wir zerstören, denn wir brauchen unsere eigene Welt, eine Gottes-Welt,
zu deren Erschaffung ihr nicht veranlagt seid … jene von uns, welche
diese Wahrheit nicht begreifen, werden sich immer wiederfinden in
Allianz mit euren rebellischen Gruppen, bis die Desillusionierung kommt,
unser elendes Schicksal, welches uns in eurer Mitte verstreute, hat uns
diese unwillkommene Rolle aufgedrängt.” [13]

Der Labour-Zionismus [linke, nicht-marxistische Strömung] brachte seine
eigene einzigartige Sorte des jüdischen Selbsthasses hervor.

Trotz seines Namens und Anspruches, war der Labour-Zionismus niemals
fähig, einen signifikanten Anteil der jüdischen Arbeiterklasse in auch
nur irgendeinem Land der Diaspora für sich einzunehmen.

Seine Mitglieder führten ein selbst-widerlegendes Argument an: sie
behaupteten, daß die jüdischen Arbeiter nur in “marginalen” Industrien
beschäftigt seien, in solchen wie der Nadel-Industrie [Nadeln für
Textilherstellung und Grammophone, Anm. eku], welche keine wesentliche
Bedeutung für die VolksWirtschaften der “Wirts”-Nationen hatten, daher
würden die jüdischen Arbeiter immerwährend marginal für die
Arbeiterbewegung in den Ländern ihres Aufenthalts bleiben.

Jüdische Arbeiter, so wurde behauptet, könnten einen “gesunden”
Klassenkampf nur in ihrem eigenen Land wagen.

Arme Juden zeigten natürlich wenig Interesse an einer sogenannten
Arbeiter-Bewegung, welche ihnen nicht etwa erzählte, mit allem was sie
vermochten für die Verbesserung der gegenwärtigen Bedingungen zu
kämpfen, sondern sich eher um das weit entfernte Palästina zu sorgen.

Der Ruf der zionistischen Arbeiter-Bewegung richtete sich paradoxerweise
primär an jene jungen Mittelklasse-Juden, welche den Bruch zu ihrer
Herkunfts-Klasse suchten, war jedoch nicht bereit, sich dann den
Arbeitern der Länder ihres Aufenthalts zu zuwenden.

Der Labour-Zionismus wurde so eine Art Gegenkultur-Sekte, welche die
jüdischen Marxisten wegen deren Internationalismus und die jüdische
Mittelklasse als parasitische Ausbeuter der “Wirts”völker anprangerte.

Im Endeffekt übertrugen sie den traditionellen Antisemitismus ins
Jiddische: die Juden waren in den falschen Ländern in den falschen
Berufen und machten die falsche Politik.

Es brauchte den Holokaust, um diesem Gejammer einen Sinn zu geben.

Erst dann erkannten sie den gemeinsamen Nenner in ihrer eigenen
Botschaft und der anti-jüdischen Propaganda der Nazis.

Im März 1942 gestand Chaim Greenberg, zu der Zeit Herausgeber des
Labour-zionistischen Presse-Organs ‘Jewish Frontier’ in New York,
schmerzlich ein, daß es tatsächlich

“eine Zeit [gegeben hat,] als es für zionistische Sprecher
(einschließlich den Schreiber) modisch war, von ihrem Standpunkt aus zu
erklären, ‘um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit
sein’. Bis zu diesem Tag stehen die zionistischen Labour-Kreise unter
dem Einfluß der Vorstellung, daß die Rückkehr nach Zion einen Prozeß der
Reinigung von unseren ökonomischen Unsauberkeiten einschließt. Jeden,
der keine sogenannte ‘produktive’ manuelle Arbeit ergreift, hält man für
einen Sünder gegen das Volk Israel und gegen die Menschheit.” [14]

[b]”Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda”[/b]

Wenn irgendjemandem ohne weitere Fakten erzählt würde, daß die ersten
Zionisten Rassisten waren, würde derjenige automatisch vermuten, daß
dies ein Teil der kolonialistischen Seite des Zionismus in Palästina sei.

Tatsächlich ist dem nicht so; Der ‘Blut-Zionismus’ hätte sich auch
entwickelt, wenn Palästina komplett unbewohnt gewesen wäre. Die
Begeisterung für ‘Blut und Boden’ war bereits Teil des Zionismus, bevor
der erste moderne Zionist jemals Europa verließ.

Der Rassen-Zionismus hingegen war ein merkwürdiger Ableger des
Rassen-Antisemitismus.

Gewiß, so argumentierten die Zionisten, die Juden waren eine reine
Rasse, bestimmt reiner als, sagen wir mal, die Deutschen, die einen
großen Zuschlag slawischen Blutes besaßen, wie sogar die All-Deutschen
eingestanden. Für diese Zionisten konnte jedoch noch nicht mal ihr
Glaube an die Rassen-Reinheit den einen Makel der jüdischen Existenz
überspielen: die Juden verfügten nicht über ihren eigenen jüdischen Boden.

Wenn die teutonischen Rassisten sich als ‘Übermenschen’ sehen konnten,
sahen diese hebräischen Rassisten die Juden eben nicht in diesem Licht;
eher war das Gegenteil der Fall.

Sie glaubten, daß wegen des Fehlens eines eigenen Bodens die Juden
“Untermenschen” wären, daher wären diese, aus der Sicht ihrer “Wirte”,
wenig mehr als Blutsauger: die Welt-Pest eben.

Wenn man an den Wahrheitsgehalt der rassischen Exklusivität glaubt,
fällt es schwer, etwas gegen den Rassismus von irgendjemand anderem
einzuwenden.

Wenn man weiters daran glaubt, daß es für ein Volk unmöglich ist, gesund
zu bleiben, außer in seinem eigenen Heimatland, kann man nichts gegen
irgendeinen anderen einwenden, der “Fremde” von seinem Territorium
ausschließt.

Tatsächlich jedoch dachte der Durchschnitts-Zionist selbst niemals
daran, das zivilisierte Europa zu verlassen, um es gegen die Wildnis
Palästinas einzutauschen. In Wirklichkeit ist es offensichtlich, daß ihm
die zionistische ‘Blut und Boden’-Ideologie eine vortreffliche
Begründung lieferte, den Antisemitismus nicht auf dessen Heimatboden zu
bekämpfen: Es war nicht der Fehler der Antisemiten, es kam von dem
eigenen Pech der Juden, ihrem Dasein im Exil.

Die Zionisten konnten tränenreich darlegen, daß in dem Verlust
Palästinas die Wurzel des Antisemitismus lag und die Wiedergewinnung
Palästinas die einzige Lösung der Judenfrage wäre. Alles andere könne
nur Beschönigung sein oder zwecklos.

Walter Laqueur, Wortführer der zionistischen Historiker, fragte in
seinem Buch, ‘A History of Zionism’ [Die Geschichte des Zionismus], ob
das zionistische Beharren auf der Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus
nicht doch das “Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda” war. [15]

Sicher war es das.

Laqueurs Frage kann jedoch am besten mit einer anderen Frage beantwortet
werden: ist es schwierig, den leichtgläubigen Leser einer Nazi-Zeitung
zu verstehen, der daraus schloß, daß das, was die Nazis erklärten und
welchem die Zionisten – Juden – zustimmten, richtig sein müsse?

Und es kam noch schlimmer: jede jüdische Bewegung, welche über die
Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus schwätzte, geradeso, als wäre jener
“natürlich”, strebte nach vertraglichen Übereinkommen mit den Nazis, als
diese an die Macht kamen.

——–

Fußnoten und Quellen:

1. Marvin Lowenthal (ed.), The Diaries of Theodor Herzl, p.78.

2. Amos Elon, Herzl, p.255.

3. Desmond Stewart, Theodor Herzl, p.322.

4. The WZO is structured by national states, and elections are held on a
national basis for the World Zionist Congress; the various ideological
tendencies which are world-wide in their structure, run in the various
national elections for delegates.

5. Martin Buber, On Judaism, pp.15-19.

6. Ibid., pp.75-7.

7. Ignatz Zollschan, Jewish Questions (1914) pp.17-18.

8. Solomon Goldman, Crisis and Decision (1938), p.116.

9. Maurice Samuel, I, the Jew, pp.244-6.

10. Our Shomer “Weltanschauung”, Hashomer Hatzair (December 1936), p.26.

11. Ben Frommer, The Significance of a Jewish State, Jewish Call
(Shanghai, May 1935), p.10.

12. Yehezkel Kaufman, Hurban Hanefesh: A Discussion of Zionism and
Anti-Semitism, Issues (Winter 1967), p.106.

13. Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, p.155.

14. Chaim Greenberg, The Myth of Jewish Parasitism, Jewish Frontiers
(March 1942), p.20.

15. Walter Laqueur, A History of Zionism, p.500.

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EICHMANN IN JERUSALEM
byHannah Arendt

Zionist Emigration and Gestapo Expulsion

(pp. 59-61)

During its first few years, Hitler’s rise to power appeared to the
Zionists chiefly as ‘the decisive defeat of assimilationism’. Hence, the
Zionists could, for a time, at least, engage in a certain amount of non-
criminal cooperation with the Nazi authorities; the Zionists too believed
that “dissimilation,” combined with the emigration to Palestine of Jewish
youngsters and, they hoped, Jewish capitalists, could be a “mutually
fair solution.”

At the time, many German officials held this opinion, and this kind
of seems to have been quite common up to the end. A letter from a
survivor of Theresienstadt, a German Jew, relates that all leading
positions in the Nazi-appointed “Reichsvereiningung” were held by
Zionists (whereas the authentic Jewish “Reichsvereiningung” had
been composed of both Zionists and non-Zionists), because Zionists,
according to the Nazis, were the “decent” Jews since they too thought
in “national terms.” To be sure, no prominent Nazi ever spoke publicly
in this vein; from beginning to end, Nazi propaganda was fiercely,
unequivocally, uncompromisingly anti-Semitic, and eventually nothing
counted but what people who were still without experience in the
mysteries of totalitarian government dismissed as “mere propaganda.”

There existed in those first years a mutually highly satisfactory
agreement between the Nazi authorities and the Jewish Agency for
Palestine – a ‘ Ha’avara’, or Transfer Agreement, which provided that
an emigrant to Palestine could transfer his money there in German
goods and exchange them for pounds upon arrival. It was soon the
only legal way for a Jew to take his money with him (the alternative then
being the establishment of a blocked account, which could be liquidated
abroad only at a loss of between fifty and ninety-five per cent). The result
was that in the thirties, when American Jewry took great pains to organize
a boycott of German merchandise, Palestine, of all places, was swamped
with all kinds of goods “made in Germany.”

Of Greater importance for Eichmann were the emissaries from Palestine,
who would approach the Gestapo and the S.S. on their own initiative,
without taking orders from either the German Zionists or the Jewish Agency
for Palestine. They came in order to enlist the help for the illegal
immigration of Jews into British-ruled Palestine, and both the Gestapo
and the S.S: were helpful. They negotiated with Eichmann in Vienna,
and they reported that he was “polite, not the shouting type,” and that
he even provided them with farms and facilities for setting up vocational
training camps for prospective immigrants. (“On one occasion, he expelled
a group of nuns from a convent to provide a training farm for young Jews”
and on another ‘a special train was made available and Nazi officials
accompanied’ a group of emigrants, ostensibly headed for Zionist training
farms in Yugoslavia, to see them safely across the border).

According to the story told by Jon and David Kimche, with “the full
and generous cooperation of all the chief actors” (THE SECRET ROADS:
THE ILLEGAL MIGRATION OF A PEOPLE, 1938-1948, London, 1954),
these Jews from Palestine spoke a language not totally different from that
of Eichmann. They had been sent to Europe by the communal settlements
in Palestine, and they were not interested in rescue operations: “That was
not their job.” They wanted to select “suitable material,” and their chief
enemy, prior to the extermination program, was not those who made life
impossible for Jews in the old countries, Germany or Austria, but those
who barred access to the new homeland: that enemy was definitely
Britain, not Germany.

Indeed, they were in a position to deal with the Nazi authorities on a
footing amounting to equality, which native Jews were not, since they
enjoyed the protection of the mandatory power. They were probably
among the first Jews to talk openly about mutual interests and were
certainly the first to be given permission “to pick young Jewish pioneers”
>from among the Jews in the concentration camps. Of course, they were
unaware of the sinister implications of this deal, which still lay in the
future; but they too somehow believed that if it was a question of selecting
Jews for survival, the Jews should do the selecting themselves. It was this
fundamental error in judgement that eventually led to a situation in which
the non-selected majority of Jews inevitably found themselves confronted
with two enemies – the Nazi authorities and the Jewish authorities”.

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The Alleged “Holocaust” of the Jews is Proving ever more Dangerous

On 8 Aug 2006 22:03:31 -0700, in can.politics “127.0.0.1”
wrote:

http://www.natallnews.com/story.php?id=2695

Current events in the Middle East confirm it: the alleged
“Holocaust” of the Jews is a historical lie that is proving ever
more dangerous. Let us recall that this alleged “Holocaust”, which
is the sword and the shield of the State of Israel, possesses at least
three aberrant features:

1) It has created “survivors” (“miraculous” ones) by the
million. Almost sixty years on from the end of the 1939-1945 war, the
number of “survivors” of that purported undertaking to exterminate
an entire people has been estimated by the specialist in demographics
of Jewish communities Jacob Ukeles at 687,900 (Haaretz, April 18,
2004).

>From that figure it may be deduced that in 1945 the number of European
Jews who had survived the war was most likely in the region of
3,250,000, a statistic that bears out what we already knew from other
information: never did the Germans have a policy of physical
extermination of the Jews and never did they possess any of those
weapons of mass destruction called execution “gas chambers” or
execution “gas vans”.

After the war, many Jews stayed in Europe and many others scattered
throughout the world, settling in nearly sixty countries. So it was
that in the late 1990s the teams put in charge by Steven Spielberg of
gathering survivors’ testimonies had to go to nearly sixty different
countries to record the said testimonies on video (Survivors of the
Shoah Visual Foundation, P.O. Box 3168, Los Angeles, California 90078,
USA; see also a related article in the French daily Libération of
November 3, 1999, p. 36).

Finally, in the present day, the Jewish population of Israel is close
to … seven million (!);

2) It constitutes a daunting weapon with which to stifle, crush and
kill; see the above drawing, recently passed on to me by Ahmed Rami,
depicting a book that, like writings in Hebrew, would be read from
right to left; hence the presentation.

3) It enabled the Zionists to succeed in creating a colony in
1947-1948, the very time when, everywhere else in the world, colonial
possessions were disintegrating. Established in the land of Palestine,
that colony became a “Jewish State”, endowed with a “Jewish
Army”. This State is racialist, domineering and sure of itself. In
accordance with a millennia-old tradition, it has, yet again, let the
Jewish people, – ever prey to the prophet’s anxiety, ever inclined
to groan, to complain, to threaten blackmail, to preach wars and
crusades, – make itself invariably loathsome wherever it passes
through.

Founded on the myth of the “Holocaust”, the State of Israel is
doomed

In a study dated October 8, 2001 and entitled “An Imaginary Holocaust
May Lead to a Real Holocaust” I wrote: “the State of Israel is
henceforth doomed. It will not even have lasted as long as the
ephemeral Christian kingdom of Jerusalem [which, in actual fact, lived
for 89 years]”; then, speaking of the “bad times ahead for the
Jews”, I described already what can be seen befalling that
colonialist State now.

The Zionists will have to leave Palestine. They will be returning to
our climes. In particular, they will invade Germany where the
authorities are already offering a fortune to Jewish immigrants from
anywhere. These wandering Jews will bewail their “Second
Holocaust”.

Again they will be demanding penitence, privileges of all sorts and
“reparations for the irreparable” (a fine Talmudic oxymoron!).
Thus, those settlers of another era will need to quit Jerusalem; but
will they do so in the manner of the Europeans of Algeria in 1962 or in
that of the Americans, in 1975, in Vietnam?

What will the Israelis do with their nuclear arsenal? How high will the
bill for the rest of humanity run to? One can hardly tell.

On the other hand, one may rightly affirm that present events justify
the warnings put out in the past by the revisionists. They had said
that the lie of the magical gas chambers allowed ANYTHING and that,
consequently, the world must be ready for ANYTHING in the way of Jewish
excessiveness. It would have been a good idea to listen to the
revisionists instead of throwing them in prison or trying to gag them.

Jewish neurosis and excessiveness in the Zionist myth and the
“Holocaust” myth

Whether belonging to the State of Israel or the Diaspora, the Jews,
with but too few exceptions like those of Noam Chomsky, Israel Shahak
or Edgar Morin, have acted with callousness and inhumanity. Their
alleged “Holocaust” has permitted them to slander nearly all
non-Jews, including the wartime Allies, the Neutrals, the Papacy, the
International Committee of the Red Cross, all accused of having, it
seems, let the Germans exterminate the European Jews.

They have thus accused whole nations of having committed or allowed to
be committed a gigantic crime which, in reality, was never perpetrated.

>From this slander of huge proportions they have drawn, with the greed
and cruelty of Shylock, an orgy of profits in monetary and political
terms as well as in the spheres of the law and the media. Moreover,
they have not cared to show any respect to either the defeated or the
impoverished. Their excessiveness (the messianic hubris) has made them
lose their heads.

These Jews would be well advised to reflect on what, in 1894, Bernard
Lazare wrote on the first page of his book Antisemitism: its history
and causes and which may be summarised as follows: if, in every era, in
every land, amongst all races, under all kinds of regime and whatever
the prevailing moral standards and customs, the people of Israel have
incited “hostility” and even “repugnance”, it is that “the
general causes of antisemitism [have] always lain in Israel itself and
not in those who have fought it.”

Up to now the revisionists have been treated like Palestinians,
Lebanese or, to talk Jewish, like the “seed of cattle” and for a
long time revisionism has remained beyond the understanding of the
greater part of the world, but now, in the present day, people are
beginning to grasp its message.

Millions, whole nations, witnesses to what is going on in the Middle
East, are becoming aware, in front of their television sets, of Jewish
neurosis and excessiveness.

At the same time they are discovering, or are about to discover, with
stupefaction, that at the root of the lie-laden accounts, full of
extravagance and hatred, that make up what the Jews call their
“Holocaust History”, there already lay that same neurosis, that
same excessiveness.

Jewish fads, extravagances and crazes bound for the rubbish bins of
history

The “mania for lying and believing lies is as catching as the itch”
(Céline). Man, as is known all too well, is subject to some quite
unlikely fancies. He goes so far as to kill or get himself killed for
ideas that he sometimes ends up discovering were false all along. The
business of weapons, wars and crusades, of which mass propaganda is a
central component, takes delight in these false ideas.

In the 19th and 20th centuries the Talmudists took in billions of
people with them. Freudianism, Zionism, Lenin- or Trotsky-style
Communism, Elie Wiesel-style holocaustic religion or Shoah business à
la Claude Lanzmann, all these inventions have been grounded in a
mixture of false ideas, messianic utopias and impostures that were
essentially Jewish. After having known triumph, Freudianism (not to be
confused with psychotherapy and psychiatry) and Leninism (not to be
confused with the communist ideal) are now largely discredited.

As is seen in our present day, Zionism, for its part, leads to
self-destruction and may perhaps bring on a worldwide catastrophe; the
Israelis have killed it. As for the “Holocaust” religion and Shoah
business, they seem to be flourishing, but, as the American revisionist
Arthur Robert Butz has remarked, the giant’s feet are made of clay,
and this fact is starting to be noticed.

These fads, extravagances and crazes, which bear the mark of Jewish
neurosis and excessiveness, look sure to finish one day in the rubbish
bins of history. But, as far as the “Holocaust” is concerned, that
day is still a long way off, so strongly has the Great Lie of the 20th
century pervaded people’s minds, like a lethal drug to which one
sadly ends up becoming addicted.

Fortunately the revisionists are here; good Judeo-therapists that they
are (the term is French revisionist Pierre Guillaume’s), they have no
equal when it comes to treating dependence on holocaustic lie poison.
If, beset with that affliction, one wants to regain reason and health,
there is nothing like a simple cure of revisionism.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

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Der Jude ist ein dreckiger Hund, erbärmlich, Parasit usw. (Auflösung)

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:59:13 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc egon-karl ullrich
wrote:

Ein Teil der Auflösung des ‘Rätsel – ja-wie-kann-denn-der-sowas-sagen-?’
ist ja bereits veröffentlicht im Artikelstran “Der Jude ist ein Parasit”
(wer lesen kann und will ist klar im Vorteil, der meist dämliche Spruch
trifft hier mal wirklich zu), dort gibts auch ein zion. Original-Buch
zum runterladen:

Es handelt sich in den “Subjects” um Zitate aus der zionistischen
Literatur von zionistischen Philosophen und zion. Vordenkern bzw. aus
der unangefochtenen Fachliteratur über den Zionismus bzw. über die zion.
Ideologie. Und die zitierten sind noch harmlos, statt “dreckiger Hund”,
kann man auch übersetzen “stinkender Hund”, lt. ‘LEO.dict’

Wer meine Schriften kennt, dem war das auch von Anfang an klar. Anfänger
und Deppen gibts aber auch hier in dieser NG.

Hier der Beweis aus dem marxistischen Bereich (eigentl. jüd.-marx.
Bereich) des Herkunftsjuden Lenni Brenner, Wissenschaftsjournalist:

(aus dem Englischen)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Lenni Brenner

Zionismus im Zeitalter der Diktatoren
(Zionism in the Age of the Dictators)

2. Blut und Boden (Blood and Soil)

Die Wurzeln des zionistischen Rassismus

Es war der Antisemitismus – alleine – welcher den Zionismus begründete.
Herzl konnte seine Bewegung in keiner Weise auf irgendeinem positiven
jüdischen Selbstverständnis aufbauen.

Obwohl er die Unterstützung durch die Rabbiner anstrebte, war er
persönlich nicht gläubig. Er hatte kein besonderes Interesse an
Palästina, dem antiken Heimatland; er war ganz erpicht darauf, daß das
kenianische Hochland akzeptiert wird, zumindest auf einer zeitweiligen
Grundlage. Er hatte kein Interesse an Hebräisch; er betrachtete seinen
jüdischen Staat als ein sprachliches Abbild der Schweiz.

Der Rassengedanke lag für ihn in der Luft; die deutschen Antisemiten
sprachen von den Juden als Rasse, bald jedoch verwarf er diese Doktrin
und nutzte in einer paradoxen Diskussion Israel Zangwill, einen seiner
frühesten Gefolgsleute, als ein Beispiel für seine Ablehnung dieser
Idee. Er beschrieb den englisch-jüdischen Autor so:

“… vom langnasigen Neger-Typ, mit wolligem, tief-schwarzem Haar … er
stützt jedoch den Rassegedanken – manches daran kann ich gelten lassen,
ich muß lediglich ihn und dann wieder mich anschauen. Alles was ich
sagen kann: wir sind eine historische Einheit, eine Nation mit
anthropologischer Vielfalt.” [1]

Unbekümmert von religiösen Überlegungen, schlug er einen Atheisten, den
damals weltberühmten Autor Max Nordau, als seinen Nachfolger als
Präsident der WZO (Zionistische Weltorganisation) vor.

Und wieder waren die Jünger weniger liberal als ihr Herr.

Nordau war mit einer Christin verheiratet und befürchtete, daß sich die
Orthodoxen auf allen Ebenen daran stoßen würden. Er war bereits
verheiratet, als er zum Zionismus konvertierte und wurde bald, trotz
seiner nichtjüdischen Ehefrau, ein anerkannter jüdischer Rassist.

Am 21. Dezember 1903 gab er Eduard Drumonts radikal antisemitischer
Zeitung ‘La Libre Parole’ ein Interview, in welchem er sagte, daß der
Zionismus keine Sache der Religion sondern der Rassen-Exklusivität sei
und “es gibt keinen, mit welchem ich in größerer Übereinstimmung in
diesem Punkt stehe, als M. Drupont”. [3]

Obwohl sich nur ein einziger nationaler Ableger der WZO (der
holländische Verband im Jahr 1913) jemals darum bemühte, die Juden,
welche in gemischten Ehen lebten, auszuschließen, starb der
kosmopolitische Zionismus einen frühen Tod mit Herzl im Jahr 1904. [4]

Die Bewegung in Osteuropa, ihre Massenbasis, teilte die spontanen
volks-religiösen Vorurteile der orthodoxen Gemeinden ihres Umfeldes.

Obwohl die traditionellen Juden Missionierung kannten und Ehen mit
Nicht-Juden als Verstärkung ihrer Glaubenskraft ansahen, brachte später
von der katholischen Kirche ausgehender Druck die Rabbiner dazu,
Konvertierungen als “lästiges Jucken” zu betrachten und sie stellten die
Missionierung ein.

Im Laufe der Jahrhunderte, wurde die Selbst-Abgrenzung zum Kennzeichen
der Juden. Mit der Zeit betrachteten die Massen Mischehen als Verrat an
der Orthodoxie. Obwohl im Westen nur manche Juden die Religion
abwandelten und “Reform”-Sekten bildeten sowie andere sich vom Gott
ihrer Vorväter gänzlich abwandten, ging der Lauf im Wesentlichen weg vom
Judaismus.

Wenige nur stießen zur jüdischen Welt hinzu, entweder durch
Konvertierung oder Heiraten.

Obschon der westliche Zionismus sich in einer mehr säkularen Atmosphäre
entwickelte als jener Ost-Europas, betrachtete die Masse seiner
Mitglieder Misch-Ehen eher als Wegführung der Juden von der Gemeinde
denn als Hinzufügung zu ihr.

Die deutschen Akademiker, welche die zionistische Bewegung nach Herzls
Tod übernahmen, entwickelten die modernistisch-rassistische Ideologie
vom jüdischen Separatismus [Loslösungsstreben].

Sie waren stark beeinflußt von ihren pan-germanischen Studenten-Kollegen
der ‘Wandervögel’ (Zugvögel oder Freigeister), welche den deutschen
Campus vor 1914 dominierten. Diese Chauvinisten wiesen die Juden als
nicht von germanischem Blut zurück; folglich konnten sie niemals Teil
des Deutschen Volkes sein und waren grundsätzlich Fremde auf deutschem
Boden. Alle jüdischen Studenten waren gezwungen, sich mit diesen
Konzepten, welche sie umringten, auseinander zu setzen.

Ein paar bewegten sich nach links und wurden Sozialdemokraten. Für jene
war dies [der Wandervögel-Chauvinismus, Anm. eku] nur ein mehr
bourgeoiser Nationalismus und war als solcher zu bekämpfen.

Die meisten blieben herkömmlich kaisertreu, standhafte Nationalisten,
welche darauf beharrten, daß tausend Jahre auf deutschem Boden aus ihnen
“Deutsche mosaischen Glaubens” gemacht hatten.

Aber ein Anteil der jüdischen Studenten eignete sich die
‘Wandervögel’-Ideologie an und übertrug sie einfach in zionistische
Terminologie.

Sie stimmten mit den Antisemiten in mehreren Punkten überein: die Juden
waren kein Teil des Deutschen Volkes und, natürlich, Juden und Deutsche
sollten sich nicht geschlechtlich vermischen, nicht aus den traditionell
religiösen Gründen, sondern um der Reinheit ihres eigenen einzigartigen
Blutes willen.

Da nicht von deutschem Blut, hätten sie zwangsläufig ihren eigenen Boden
zu bekommen: Palästina.

Auf den ersten Blick schien es befremdlich, daß jüdische Studenten aus
der Mittel-Klasse derart beeinflußt durch antisemitisches Gedankengut
sein sollten, besonders, da zur selben Zeit der Sozialismus mit seiner
assimilationistischen Haltung gegenüber den Juden beträchtliche
Unterstützung in der Gesellschaft um sie herum gewann.

Der Sozialismus appelierte jedoch vorwiegend an die Arbeiter, nicht an
die Mittel-Klasse; in ihrer Umwelt herrschte der Chauvinismus vor,
obwohl intellektuell, lehnten sie ihre Verbindung zum Deutschen Volk ab,
und in der Tat, niemals emanzipierten sie sich von der deutschen
Kapitalistenklasse, den ganzen Ersten Weltkrieg hindurch unterstüzten
sie leidenschaftlich ihre eigene Regierung.

[Anm. eku: s.a. “Max-Bodenheimer-Archiv”. Deutsche Zionisten bilden im
1. WK mittels maßgeblicher Beteiligung der Kölner Fam. Bodenheimer
(=zionistisches Establishment) Unterstützungskommitee, dieses reist an
die Ostfront, bildet Judenräte in den befreiten Gebieten Polens, nennt
die Juden Europas “Deutsche” oder “deutschenfreundlich” und – nicht
zuletzt – sitzt buchstäblich als Ehren-Gast an Kaisers Esstisch!]

In all ihrem grandiosen intellektuellen Anspruch, war ihr völkischer
Zionismus doch nur einfach eine Imitation der deutschen
nationalistischen Ideologie. Deshalb war der junge Philosoph Martin
Buber fähig, während dem Ersten Weltkrieg den Zionismus mit inbrünstigem
deutschen Patriotismus zu verbinden.

In seinem Buch ‘Drei Reden über das Judentum’, veröffentlicht im Jahre
1911, sprach Buber über einen Jugendlichen, der:

“einen Sinn hat für die Unsterblichkeit der Generationen einer
Blutgemeinschaft, welche er als Vorgänger seines Ich empfindet, dessen
Ausdauer wird unendlich währen.

Hinzu kommt die Entdeckung, befördert durch sein Bewußtsein, daß Blut
eine tief verwurzelte, nährende Kraft im Inneren jedes einzelnen
Menschen ist;

daß die tiefsten Schichten unseres Seins vom Blut bestimmt sind;

daß unser innerstes Denken und unser Wille davon gefärbt sind.

Jetzt findet er heraus, daß die Welt um ihn eine Welt der Eindrücke und
Einflüsse ist, wohingegen Blut das Reich einer beeinflußbaren und
beeindruckbaren Substanz ist, einer Sustanz die alles in ihre eigene
Form aufnimmt und anpasst, und, wer auch immer, vor die Wahl, Umgebung
oder Blut gestellt, sich für die Substanz entscheidet, fortan ein wahrer
Jude aus seinem Innersten sein muß, um zu leben als ein Jude mit all den
Widersprüchen, der Tragödie und all der späteren Verheißung seines
Blutes” [5]

[Anm. eku: naturgemäß unvollkommene Rückübersetzung, werde noch
versuchen, den Originaltext Bubers zu bekommen…]

Die Juden leben in Europa seit Jahrtausenden, weit länger, sagen wir
mal, als die Ungarn. Niemand träumte davon, sich auf die Ungarn als
Asiaten zu beziehen, jedoch, so Buber, die Juden Europas wären noch
Asiaten und würden es voraussichtlich immer bleiben.

“Du kannst den Juden aus Palästina rauskriegen, aber niemals Palästina
raus aus dem Juden.”

Im Jahr 1916 schrieb Buber, daß der Jude:

“vertrieben wurde aus seinem Land und über die Länder des Abendlandes
verstreut wurde, jedoch, trotz all dem, blieb er ein Orientale. Man kann
all dies im noch so sehr assimlierten Juden entdecken, wenn man Zugang
zu seiner Seele gewinnt … der unvergängliche, allen Juden gemeinsame
Trieb – dieser wird in das Sein einkehren nach einer Fortdauer des
Lebens in Palästina … Sobald der Trieb mit seiner Mutters Scholle in
Berührung kommt, wird er wieder schöpferisch.” [6]

Bubers völkischer Zionismus, mit seinen ausgesuchten Strängen mystischen
Überschwangs, war jedoch zu vergeistigt um ein breites Publikum
anzusprechen.

Was gebraucht wurde, war eine populäre zionistische Version des
Sozial-Darwinismus, welcher die bourgoise intellektuelle Welt des
aufbrechenden europäischen imperialen Wettbewerbs nach Afrika und nach
Osten überschwemmte.

Die zionistische Version dieser Auffassung wurde von dem
österreichischen Anthropologen Ignatz Zollschan entwickelt. Für ihn war
der verborgene Nutzen des Judaismus, daß jener, obgleich unabsichtlich,
das Wunder der Wunder bewirken würde:

“Eine Nation von reinem Blut, unverdorben von den Krankheiten des
Exzesses oder der Unmoral, von einem hoch entwickelten Sinn für
familiäre Reinheit und von tief verwurzelten tugendhaften Gewohnheiten
würde eine außergewöhnliche geistige Regsamkeit entwickeln.
Darüberhinaus sorgt das Verbot der Mischehen dafür, daß dieser
höchst-ethische Schatz durch reinmixen von weniger umsichtig
hervorgebrachten Rassen nicht verloren geht … daraus resultiert eine
naturgemäße Auswahl, welche keine Parallele in der Geschichte der
menschlichen Rasse findet … Wenn eine Rasse, die so hoch beschenkt
ist, die Gelegenheit bekommt, erneut ihre ursprüngliche Kraft zu
entwickeln, kann dem nichts gleichkommen, soweit es den kulturellen Wert
anbelangt.” [7]

Sogar Albert Einstein unterschrieb die zionistischen Rassenkonzepte,
damit verstärkte er den Rassismus und verlieh ihm das Prestige seiner
Reputation. Seine eigenen Beiträge zur Diskussion klingen entsprechend
tiefsinnig, sie beruhen jedoch auf dem selben Unsinn.

“Nationen mit rassischen Unterschieden scheinen Instinkte zu besitzen,
welche gegen ihre Verschmelzung wirken. Die Assimilation der Juden in
die europäischen Nationen … konnte nicht das Gefühl eines Mangels an
Verwandtschaft zwischen ihnen und jenen, unter denen sie lebten,
beseitigen. Letzten Endes ist das instinktive Gefühl des fehlenden
Verwandschaftsverhältnisses auf das Gesetz der Energieerhaltung
zurückzuführen. Aus diesem Grund kann es [das instinktive Mangelgefühl,
Anm. eku] durch keinen noch so wohlmeinenden Druck ausgerottet werden.” [8]

Buber, Zollschan und Einstein waren nur drei der klassischen Zionisten,
welche hochtrabend gelehrt über Rassen-Reinheit redeten. Jedoch konnte
der schiere Fanatismus Einiger nicht den des Amerikaners Maurice Samuel
einholen.

Als ein gut bekannter Autor jener Zeit – später, in den 1940er Jahren
arbeitete er mit Weizman an dessen Autobiographie – wendete sich Samuel
im Jahre 1927 in seinem Werk, ‘Ich, der Jude’, an die amerikanische
Öffentlichkeit. Er denunzierte mit Horror eine Stadt, der er
bereitwillig zugestand, daß er sie nur vom Hörensagen kannte – und von
der uns die vorgelegten Hinweise nahelegen, daß es sich um die
ungebunden lebende Künstler-Kolonie bei Taos, Neu-Mexiko, handelt:

“Auf diesem kleinen Platz kamen Repräsentanten der afrikanischen Neger,
der Amerikaner und der chinesischen Mongolen zusammen, der Semite und
der Arier … freie Mischehen setzen sich durch … Warum erfüllt mich
dieses Bild, teils wirklich, teils phantastisch, mit einem befremdenden
Abscheu, suggeriert es das Ekelerregende, das düstere Bestialische? …
Wieso ruft dieses Dorf, wie meine Phantasie heraufbeschwört, den
Gedanken an einen Haufen Reptilien hervor, die hässlich in einem
Wasserkübel brüten?” [9]

“Um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit sein”

Obwohl ‘Blut’ ein wiederkehrendes Thema in der zionistischen
vor-Holokaust-Literatur war, war dieses nicht so zentral wie die
Botschaft vom ‘Boden’.

Solange Amerikas Grenzen [relativ, Anm. eku] offen blieben, fragten
Europas Juden: wenn der Antisemitismus nicht in seiner Heimat bekämpft
werden konnte, warum sollten sie nicht einfach der Menge nach Amerika
folgen?

Die zionistische Antwort war doppelt gewappnet: Antisemitismus würde die
Juden begleiten, wohin immer sie auch gingen, und, darüberhinaus, es
waren die Juden selbst, welche den Antisemitismus durch ihre eigene
Charackteristik hervor riefen.

Die Wurzel des Antisemitismus, beharrten die Zionisten, war die jüdische
Exil-Existenz.

Die Juden lebten parasitär von ihren “Wirtsvölkern”. Es gäbe so gut wie
keine jüdischen Bauern in der Diaspora. Die Juden lebten in den Städten,
sie waren der manuellen Arbeit entfremdet, oder, um es unverblümt zu
sagen, sie mieden diese und beschäftigten sich lieber mit
intellektuellen oder kommerziellen Angelegenheiten. Ihre Beanspruchung
des Patriotismus war bestenfalls hohl, da sie ewig von Land zu Land
wanderten. Und als sie selbst sich einbildeten, sie wären Sozialisten
und Internationalisten, waren sie in Wirklichkeit nicht mehr als die
Mittelsmänner der Revolution, welche die “Schlachten anderer Leute”
ausfochten.

Diese zusammengefaßten Lehren waren bekannt als ‘Shelilat Ha’galut’ [Die
Verneinung der Diaspora], an der sich das gesamte Spektrum der Zionisten
festhielt, nur in Details variiert.

Sie wurden in der zionistischen Presse energisch vertreten, in der die
ausgeprägte Qualität vieler Artikel aus der Feindseligkeit gegenüber dem
gesamten jüdischen Volk bestand. Wenn irgendjemand diese Fetzen ohne
Kenntnis der Quellen las, würde er automatisch vermuten, daß sie der
antisemitischen Presse entstammten.

Die ‘Weltanschauung’ der Jugendorganisation ‘Hashomer Hatzair’ [Junge
Wächter], ursprünglich verfaßt im Jahr 1917, allerdings erst 1936 wieder
neu veröffentlicht, war typisch für diese Art Ergüsse:

“Der Jude ist die Karikatur eines normalen, natürlichen Menschen, in
physischer wie spiritueller Hinsicht. Als Einzelwesen in der
Gesellschaft rebelliert er und wirft die gesellschaftlichen Bindungen
ab, er kennt weder Ordnung noch Disziplin.” [10]

Ganz ähnlich konnte so im Jahre 1935 Ben Frommer, ein Autor der
ultra-rechten zionistisch-revisionistischen Bewegung, nicht weniger als
16 Millionen seiner Mit-Juden [offenbar wurde seine Erklärung weltweit
verbreitet, Anm. eku] erklären, daß:

“Die Tatsache ist unabweisbar, daß die Juden kollektiv krank und
neurotisch sind. Jene Berufs-Juden, welche nun erschüttert diese
Wahrheit entrüstet zurückweisen, sind die größten Feinde ihrer Rasse,
denn sie führen sie dadurch auf die Suche nach falschen Lösungen oder
zumeist nur nach Beschönigungen.” [11]

Diese Art des jüdischen Selbsthasses durchsetzte einen großen Teil des
zionistischen Schrifttums.

Im Jahre 1934 erregte Yehezkel Kaufman – damals berühmt als Gelehrter
für biblische Geschichte an der Hebräischen Universität zu Jerusalem,
und obwohl selbst Zionist, dennoch ein Gegner der bizarren Theorie der
Negation der Diaspora – wütende Kontroversen durch eine Auswahl der
hebräischen Literatur mit noch schlimmeren Beispielen.

Auf Hebräisch konnten die pathetischen Schreiber ihre Mit-Juden ohne
Furcht vor dem Vorwurf, den Judenhassern Munition zu liefern, regelrecht
zur Sau machen. Kaufmans ‘Hurban Hanefesh’ (Holokaust der Seele) zitiert
dazu drei der klassisch-zionistischen Vordenker.

Für Micah Yosef Berdichevsky waren die Juden “keine Nation, kein Volk,
keine Menschen”.

Für Yosef Chaim Brenner waren sie nicht mehr als “Zigeuner, dreckige
Hunde, nicht-menschlich, erbärmliche Hunde”.

Für Aaron David Gordon war sein Volk nicht besser als “Parasiten,
grundsätzlich unnütze Leute”. [12]

[Anm. eku: dieses Buch Kaufmans, wohl als eine Kritik an den
zionistischen Pöbeleien gemeint, hatte Julius Streicher lt. Text der
Webseite der frommen, ultra-orthodoxen Juden, JewsAgainstZionism,
gekannt, aus dieser Quell hatte Streicher offenbar eine Reihe seiner
Beschreibungen und Ausdrücke für die Juden gewonnen]

Natürlich mußte Maurice Samuel seine Schönschrift einbringen, um
Verleumdungen gegen seine Mit-Juden zusammen zu brauen.

Im Jahr 1924 fabrizierte er in seinem Werk ‘Ihr Nicht-Juden’ (You
Gentiles) eine von ihrem eigenen bösartigen Schöpfer gegen die
christliche Ordnung angetriebene Judenheit:

“Wir Juden, wir, die Zerstörer, werden für immer die Zerstörer bleiben.
Egal was ihr macht, nie wird es unserem Anspruch genügen. Ewig werden
wir zerstören, denn wir brauchen unsere eigene Welt, eine Gottes-Welt,
zu deren Erschaffung ihr nicht veranlagt seid … jene von uns, welche
diese Wahrheit nicht begreifen, werden sich immer wiederfinden in
Allianz mit euren rebellischen Gruppen, bis die Desillusionierung kommt,
unser elendes Schicksal, welches uns in eurer Mitte verstreute, hat uns
diese unwillkommene Rolle aufgedrängt.” [13]

Der Labour-Zionismus [linke, nicht-marxistische Strömung] brachte seine
eigene einzigartige Sorte des jüdischen Selbsthasses hervor.

Trotz seines Namens und Anspruches, war der Labour-Zionismus niemals
fähig, einen signifikanten Anteil der jüdischen Arbeiterklasse in auch
nur irgendeinem Land der Diaspora für sich einzunehmen.

Seine Mitglieder führten ein selbst-widerlegendes Argument an: sie
behaupteten, daß die jüdischen Arbeiter nur in “marginalen” Industrien
beschäftigt seien, in solchen wie der Nadel-Industrie [Nadeln für
Textilherstellung und Grammophone, Anm. eku], welche keine wesentliche
Bedeutung für die VolksWirtschaften der “Wirts”-Nationen hatten, daher
würden die jüdischen Arbeiter immerwährend marginal für die
Arbeiterbewegung in den Ländern ihres Aufenthalts bleiben.

Jüdische Arbeiter, so wurde behauptet, könnten einen “gesunden”
Klassenkampf nur in ihrem eigenen Land wagen.

Arme Juden zeigten natürlich wenig Interesse an einer sogenannten
Arbeiter-Bewegung, welche ihnen nicht etwa erzählte, mit allem was sie
vermochten für die Verbesserung der gegenwärtigen Bedingungen zu
kämpfen, sondern sich eher um das weit entfernte Palästina zu sorgen.

Der Ruf der zionistischen Arbeiter-Bewegung richtete sich paradoxerweise
primär an jene jungen Mittelklasse-Juden, welche den Bruch zu ihrer
Herkunfts-Klasse suchten, war jedoch nicht bereit, sich dann den
Arbeitern der Länder ihres Aufenthalts zu zuwenden.

Der Labour-Zionismus wurde so eine Art Gegenkultur-Sekte, welche die
jüdischen Marxisten wegen deren Internationalismus und die jüdische
Mittelklasse als parasitische Ausbeuter der “Wirts”völker anprangerte.

Im Endeffekt übertrugen sie den traditionellen Antisemitismus ins
Jiddische: die Juden waren in den falschen Ländern in den falschen
Berufen und machten die falsche Politik.

Es brauchte den Holokaust, um diesem Gejammer einen Sinn zu geben.

Erst dann erkannten sie den gemeinsamen Nenner in ihrer eigenen
Botschaft und der anti-jüdischen Propaganda der Nazis.

Im März 1942 gestand Chaim Greenberg, zu der Zeit Herausgeber des
Labour-zionistischen Presse-Organs ‘Jewish Frontier’ in New York,
schmerzlich ein, daß es tatsächlich

“eine Zeit [gegeben hat,] als es für zionistische Sprecher
(einschließlich den Schreiber) modisch war, von ihrem Standpunkt aus zu
erklären, ‘um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit
sein’. Bis zu diesem Tag stehen die zionistischen Labour-Kreise unter
dem Einfluß der Vorstellung, daß die Rückkehr nach Zion einen Prozeß der
Reinigung von unseren ökonomischen Unsauberkeiten einschließt. Jeden,
der keine sogenannte ‘produktive’ manuelle Arbeit ergreift, hält man für
einen Sünder gegen das Volk Israel und gegen die Menschheit.” [14]

[b]”Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda”[/b]

Wenn irgendjemandem ohne weitere Fakten erzählt würde, daß die ersten
Zionisten Rassisten waren, würde derjenige automatisch vermuten, daß
dies ein Teil der kolonialistischen Seite des Zionismus in Palästina sei.

Tatsächlich ist dem nicht so; Der ‘Blut-Zionismus’ hätte sich auch
entwickelt, wenn Palästina komplett unbewohnt gewesen wäre. Die
Begeisterung für ‘Blut und Boden’ war bereits Teil des Zionismus, bevor
der erste moderne Zionist jemals Europa verließ.

Der Rassen-Zionismus hingegen war ein merkwürdiger Ableger des
Rassen-Antisemitismus.

Gewiß, so argumentierten die Zionisten, die Juden waren eine reine
Rasse, bestimmt reiner als, sagen wir mal, die Deutschen, die einen
großen Zuschlag slawischen Blutes besaßen, wie sogar die All-Deutschen
eingestanden. Für diese Zionisten konnte jedoch noch nicht mal ihr
Glaube an die Rassen-Reinheit den einen Makel der jüdischen Existenz
überspielen: die Juden verfügten nicht über ihren eigenen jüdischen Boden.

Wenn die teutonischen Rassisten sich als ‘Übermenschen’ sehen konnten,
sahen diese hebräischen Rassisten die Juden eben nicht in diesem Licht;
eher war das Gegenteil der Fall.

Sie glaubten, daß wegen des Fehlens eines eigenen Bodens die Juden
“Untermenschen” wären, daher wären diese, aus der Sicht ihrer “Wirte”,
wenig mehr als Blutsauger: die Welt-Pest eben.

Wenn man an den Wahrheitsgehalt der rassischen Exklusivität glaubt,
fällt es schwer, etwas gegen den Rassismus von irgendjemand anderem
einzuwenden.

Wenn man weiters daran glaubt, daß es für ein Volk unmöglich ist, gesund
zu bleiben, außer in seinem eigenen Heimatland, kann man nichts gegen
irgendeinen anderen einwenden, der “Fremde” von seinem Territorium
ausschließt.

Tatsächlich jedoch dachte der Durchschnitts-Zionist selbst niemals
daran, das zivilisierte Europa zu verlassen, um es gegen die Wildnis
Palästinas einzutauschen. In Wirklichkeit ist es offensichtlich, daß ihm
die zionistische ‘Blut und Boden’-Ideologie eine vortreffliche
Begründung lieferte, den Antisemitismus nicht auf dessen Heimatboden zu
bekämpfen: Es war nicht der Fehler der Antisemiten, es kam von dem
eigenen Pech der Juden, ihrem Dasein im Exil.

Die Zionisten konnten tränenreich darlegen, daß in dem Verlust
Palästinas die Wurzel des Antisemitismus lag und die Wiedergewinnung
Palästinas die einzige Lösung der Judenfrage wäre. Alles andere könne
nur Beschönigung sein oder zwecklos.

Walter Laqueur, Wortführer der zionistischen Historiker, fragte in
seinem Buch, ‘A History of Zionism’ [Die Geschichte des Zionismus], ob
das zionistische Beharren auf der Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus
nicht doch das “Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda” war. [15]

Sicher war es das.

Laqueurs Frage kann jedoch am besten mit einer anderen Frage beantwortet
werden: ist es schwierig, den leichtgläubigen Leser einer Nazi-Zeitung
zu verstehen, der daraus schloß, daß das, was die Nazis erklärten und
welchem die Zionisten – Juden – zustimmten, richtig sein müsse?

Und es kam noch schlimmer: jede jüdische Bewegung, welche über die
Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus schwätzte, geradeso, als wäre jener
“natürlich”, strebte nach vertraglichen Übereinkommen mit den Nazis, als
diese an die Macht kamen.

——–

Fußnoten und Quellen:

1. Marvin Lowenthal (ed.), The Diaries of Theodor Herzl, p.78.

2. Amos Elon, Herzl, p.255.

3. Desmond Stewart, Theodor Herzl, p.322.

4. The WZO is structured by national states, and elections are held on a
national basis for the World Zionist Congress; the various ideological
tendencies which are world-wide in their structure, run in the various
national elections for delegates.

5. Martin Buber, On Judaism, pp.15-19.

6. Ibid., pp.75-7.

7. Ignatz Zollschan, Jewish Questions (1914) pp.17-18.

8. Solomon Goldman, Crisis and Decision (1938), p.116.

9. Maurice Samuel, I, the Jew, pp.244-6.

10. Our Shomer “Weltanschauung”, Hashomer Hatzair (December 1936), p.26.

11. Ben Frommer, The Significance of a Jewish State, Jewish Call
(Shanghai, May 1935), p.10.

12. Yehezkel Kaufman, Hurban Hanefesh: A Discussion of Zionism and
Anti-Semitism, Issues (Winter 1967), p.106.

13. Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, p.155.

14. Chaim Greenberg, The Myth of Jewish Parasitism, Jewish Frontiers
(March 1942), p.20.

15. Walter Laqueur, A History of Zionism, p.500.

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Harris – Heydrich: Kein Unterschied?

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil “Luftkrieg” mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil “Luftkrieg” mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner

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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.

>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.

>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.

>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.

>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini’s
Italy.
>>>Brenner’s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha’avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
‘nationality’
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No! And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.

>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,’assimilation’ of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ‘It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own’
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives ‘both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli’ in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.

# 5 The Kastner Case
ZHID KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS – 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some “controversy” about negotiations he undertook
for “the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment,” but that he was “fully rehabilitated” by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that –
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations…I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, “I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.”

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the “Eichmann Confessions”
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest…Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep order in the
collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price…was not too high for me.

“…We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

“Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune…

“As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal…
‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have
this group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner.”
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to “the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment.”

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
———————————————————————–
Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
[email protected]

Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson ([email protected])
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question ‘The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering”, just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most ‘extreme’ and ‘offensive’ accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.

Since the ‘Kastner case’ is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
‘controversy’ about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully
ehabilitated’ by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
—————-
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

“Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

‘I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is still on my arm – I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations…I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine…”(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

“I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even
keep order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price…was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders….I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal…’You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’.

And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews…
That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner” (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment’, as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term ‘collaboration’ is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying ‘In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
————
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel’s District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board’s
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its’ complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

“The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.

It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another.”

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

“From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”. (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

“Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.” (ibid)

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
————-
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner’s accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

“All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

“Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government…” (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
“The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense.” (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
“If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel’s largest evening newspaper,
*Ma’ariv*:
“What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly: “The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions.” (Hecht, p.
268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court – that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Majority Judgement
————————-
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.

Kastner’s actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

“…What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this…is a consideration which
one can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

n other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The Minority Judgement
————————–
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

“I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc – and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – ‘Second Warsaw’
– nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion.” (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)

Conclusion
———–
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
‘dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships’.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being ‘dragged in’ to discredit an opponent.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
‘now dead’.

Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another ‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).

Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel’s cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.

The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.

Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

We shall go on to prove this in detail.
——————————————————————
Elias Davidsson – Oldugata 50 – 101 Reykjavik – Iceland
Tel. (354)-552-6444 Fax: (354)-552-6579
mail: [email protected] URL: http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, [email protected]
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

Posted by:
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: “George” ,
and [email protected]

Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

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Best way to deal with all druggies – dealers, users, whatever – give them all
an OD of their choice.

End of problems, since cremation of garbage is cheap compared to
incarceration costs!!

A cremated criminal will never re-offend either.

Sensible countries such as Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia have the
Death Penalty for druggies. No recividism there.

On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 07:50:41 -0700, Salad wrote:
>Go Mavs wrote:

>> “Roedy Green” wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]

>>>Stephen Harper of Canada has announced he is going to solve the drug
>>>problem in Canada by using a get tough policy, similar to that used in
>>>the USA.

>> Legalize marijuana…

>> then you only ticket other drug users… unless of course they are doing
>> those drugs in the posession of children…

>> then you go after drug dealers with a serious consequence policy…

>> the idea that we are tough on drugs in this country is ridiculous.. people
>> can get busted with drugs several times before they see a prison cell…

>> If you get caught selling meth, acid, heroin or other similar drugs, then
>> you should get a 5 year mandatory sentence and serve 100 percent of that
>> sentence.. you get caught a second time… 15 years… a third, life…

>> drugs like meth, heroin, and acid, destroy society no matter if they are
>> legal or illegal…

>Why is LSD in the same group you put it in…with meth and heroin?
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLC-y3r66Ys
>http://www.drfeelgood.de/c_heat/s_annie.htm

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BIGGEST SWISS PAPER SAYS 911 CAUSED BY BUSH AND HIS ZYDS
(TRANSLATION AT THE BOTTOM)

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:48:34 -0400, in soc.culture.russian “serwad”
wrote:

BLICK, the biggest Newspaper of Switzerland and its Cover Story: “Bush-Clan
is behind 9/11”
The rest of the article is in German, the CIA might have fast translators to
decipher the message…

Jetzt sagen auch Schweizer zum 9/11: «Steckt doch der Bush-Clan dahinter?»

VON ELIE PETER 15.09.2006 | 12:03:15

ZÜRICH – 2973 Menschen starben bei den Anschlägen von 9/11. «Bin Laden»
und «Al Kaida», schrie der Bush-Clan. Die Welt glaubte ihm. Inzwischen
zweifeln selbst Wissenschaftler an der Bush-Version. Auch die Schweizer
Uni-Dozenten Albert A. Stahel (63) und Daniele Ganser (34) stellen jetzt
heisse Fragen.

«Etwas stimmt nicht», sagt Strategieexperte Stahel in der «Weltwoche» und
verweist auf den «lückenhaften» offiziellen 9/11-Report der US-Regierung
von 2004.

Gegenüber BLICK bestätigt der Uni-Professor die Kritik:

Osama Bin Laden kann «nicht der grosse Pate» hinter den Anschlägen sein.
Er habe nicht genug Kommunikationsmittel gehabt.

Stahel bezweifelt, dass ein Passagierflugzeug ins Pentagon krachte: «Für
Flug-Anfänger ist es eigentlich unmöglich, das Gebäude so genau zu treffen.»

Sieben Stunden nach den Twin Towers stürzte daneben das World Trade
Center 7 ein. Die offizielle Version: Es brannte lange. Stahel: «Gar nichts
ist klar.»

Noch weiter als Stahel geht Historiker Daniele Ganser, sein Kollege an der
Uni Zürich. Auch die offizielle US-Version nennt er «eine
Verschwörungstheorie»: «Es gibt 3 Theorien, die wir gleichberechtigt
behandeln sollten»:

«Überraschungs-Theorie» Bin Laden und Al Kaida führten die Anschläge aus.

«Lass es absichtlich passieren» Teile der US-Regierung kannten die
Al-Kaida-Pläne. Sie reagierten nicht, um eine Serie von Kriegen zu
legitimieren.

«Führe es absichtlich selbst aus» Die Anschläge wurden vom Pentagon
und/oder Geheimdiensten ausgeführt. Die Bin-Laden-Videos sind gefälscht.
3000 Menschen wurden für strategische Interessen geopfert.

Ganser: «Je mehr wir forschen, desto mehr zweifeln wir an Bushs Version.»
Für ihn ist denkbar, dass die Bush-Regierung verantwortlich war. «Bush hat
schon so viel gelogen! Und bereits 1962 gab es im Pentagon einen Plan,
unschuldige US-Bürger für eigene Interessen zu opfern.» So weit wie Ganser
geht Stahel nicht: «Ich stelle nur Fragen.»

Hier der Link zum Blick:
[url=http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/artikel45057?display=kommentar]
http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/arti…splay=kommentar[/url]

Heutiges Blick-Cover:
[img]http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/P/d/HBPdF4VF_Pxgen_r_442xA.jpg[/img]

Was the Bush-Clan behind 9/11?
Swiss University Lecturers ask the HOT QUESTIONS
“The More We Research, the More We Doubt It”

BLICK
BY ELIE PETER
15.09.2006
ZURICH

http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/artikel45057?display=kommentar

2973 humans died in the events of 9/11. “Bin Laden” and “al-Queda”, the
Bush clan cried. The world believed him. In the meantime, even scientists
doubt the Bush version. Also the Swiss University lecturers, Albert A. Stahel
(63) and Daniele Ganser (34), now ask hot questions.

“Something is not right”, says strategy expert, Stahel, in the “World Week”,
and he refers to the “incomplete” official 9/11-Report of the US Government
of 2004.

In response to BLICK the university professor confirms the criticism:

Osama Ben Laden cannot be “the grand godfather” behind the events.
He could not have had enough means of communication.

Stahel doubts that a passenger airline hit the Pentagon: “For flight
beginners it would have been actually impossible to target the building so
exactly.”

Seven hours after the twin Towers collapsed, beside it, the World Trade
Center 7 collapsed. The official version: It burned for a long time. Stahel:
“nothing at all is clear.”

Stahel goes further than historian, Daniele Ganser, his colleague at the
University of Zurich. He also calls the official US version “a conspiracy
theory”: “There are 3 theories, which should we treat equally?”:

* “Surprise theory” – Bin Laden and al-Qaeda implemented the events.

* “Let it happen intentionally” – parts of the US Government knew of
al-Queda’s plans. They did not react, in order to legitimize a series of
wars.

* “It was intentionally played out” – the events were implemented by the
Pentagon and/or secret services. The Bin Laden videos were falsified.
3000 humans were sacrificed for strategic interests.

Ganser: “The more we research, the more we doubt the Bush version.” It is
conceivable that the Bush government was responsible. “Bush already lied
so much! And it already occured in 1962 that the Pentagon had a plan to
sacrifice innocent US citizens for its own interests.” Stahel does not go as
far as Ganser: “I have only questions.”

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:16:48 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Sonia
Cabrera wrote:

Weiss jemand genaueres über die Vorwürfe, das Wiesenthal mit der
Gestapo kollaborierte? In der Tagesschau wurde gemeldet, das
Wiesenthal die Kollaboration unterstellt wurde, da es unerklärlich
scheint, das er 12 verschiedene KZs überlebte.
Dazu folgendes im Netz:

Eichmann reiste zusammen mit Hagen. Ihr Unternehmen war in der Ge-
schichte der Kooperation zwischen Zionisten und Nazis gewiß nur eine
Episode. Aber die Tatsache, daß der berüchtigte Judenmörder Eichmann
damals bei den Zionisten sich größter Wertschätzung er- freute, war so
entlarvend, daß man sie tunlichst zu verbergen trachtete. Da die
Tatsache der Reise früher oder später ans Licht kommen mochte, wählte
man das einfachste Verfahren: Man gab den Schwarzen Peter weiter.
Bereits 1947 findet sich in einer Broschüre von Simon Wiesenthal die
Mitteilung, Eichmanns Reise habe dem Ziel gedient, Kontakt zu den
aufständischen Palästinensern aufzunehmen und mit dem Mufti
zu konspirieren.[28] Diese Lüge hat seither immer neue Varianten
erlebt und ist sogar im Eichmann-Prozess in Jerusalem wiederholt
worden.

http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol12.html

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:30:16 -0700, in soc.culture.palestine
[email protected] wrote:

Simon Wiesenthal: Fraudulent ‘Nazi Hunter’

By Mark Weber

For more than 40 years, Simon Wiesenthal has been tracking hundreds of
“Nazi criminals” from his “Jewish Documentation Center” in Vienna. For
his work as the world’s most prominent “Nazi hunter,” he has been
awarded several honorary degrees and numerous medals, including
Germany’s highest decoration. In a formal White House ceremony in
August 1980, a teary-eyed President Carter presented him with a
special gold medal awarded by the US Congress. President Reagan
praised him in November 1988 as one of the “true heroes” of this
century.

This living legend was portrayed in flattering terms by the late
Laurence Oliver in the 1978 film fantasy “The Boys From Brazil,” and
by Ben Kingsley in the 1989 HBO made-for-television movie “Murderers
Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal Story.” One of world’s most prominent
Holocaust organizations bears his name: the Simon Wiesenthal Center of
Los Angeles.

Wiesenthal’s reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
whom The Washington Post has called the “Holocaust’s Avenging Angel”
[1] has a little known but well-documented record of reckless
disregard for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
misrepresented his postwar “Nazi-hunting” achievements, and has spread
vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities.

Different Stories
Szymon (Simon) Wiesenthal was born on December 31, 1908, in Buczacz, a
town in the province of Galicia (now Buchach in Ukraine) in what was
then the eastern fringe of the Austro-Hungarian empire. His father was
a prosperous wholesale sugar merchant.

In spite of all that has been written about him, just what Wiesenthal
did during the war years under German occupation remains unclear. He
has given conflicting stories in three separate accounts of his
wartime activities. The first was given under oath during a two day
interrogation session in May 1948 conducted by an official of the US
Nuremberg war crimes commission. [2] The second is a summary of his
life provided by Wiesenthal as part of a January 1949 “Application for
Assistance” to the International Refugee Committee. [3] And the third
account is given in his autobiography, The Murderers Among Us, first
published in 1967. [4]

Soviet Engineer or Factory Mechanic?
In his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal declared that “between 1939 and
1941” he was a “Soviet chief engineer working in Lvov and Odessa.” [5]
Consistent with that, he stated in his 1949 declaration that from
December 1939 to April 1940 he worked as an architect in the Black Sea
port of Odessa. But according to his autobiography, he spent the
period between mid-September 1939 and June 1941 in Soviet-ruled Lvov,
where he worked “as a mechanic in a factory that produced bedsprings.”
[6]

Relative Freedom
After the Germans took control of Galicia province in June 1941,
Wiesenthal was interned for a time in the Janowska concentration camp
near Lvov, from where he was transferred a few months later to a camp
affiliated with the repair works (OAW) in Lvov of the Ostbahn
(“Eastern Railroad”) of German-ruled Poland. Wiesenthal reported in
his autobiography that he worked there “as a technician and
draftsman,” that he was rather well treated, and that his immediate
superior, who was “secretly anti-Nazi,” even permitted him to own two
pistols. He had his own office in a “small wooden hut,” and enjoyed
“relative freedom and was permitted to walk all over the yards.” [7]

Partisan Fighter?
The next segment of Wiesenthal’s life — from October 1943 to June
1944 — is the most obscure, and his accounts of this period are
contradictory. During his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal said that he
fled from the Janowska camp in Lvov and joined a “partisan group which
operated in the Tarnopol-Kamenopodolsk area.” [8] He said that “I was
a partisan from October 6, 1943, until the middle of February 1944,”
and declared that his unit fought against Ukrainian forces, both of
the SS “Galicia” division and of the independent UPA partisan force.
[9]

Wiesenthal said that he held the rank of lieutenant and then major,
and was responsible for building bunkers and fortification lines.
Although he was not explicit, he suggested that this (supposed)
partisan unit was part of the Armia Ludowa (“Peoples Army”), the
Polish Communist military force established and controlled by the
Soviets. [10]

He said that he and other partisans slipped into Lvov in February
1944, where they were “hidden by friends of the A.L. [‘People’s Army’]
group.” On June 13, 1944, his group was captured by the German Secret
Field Police. (Although Jewish partisans caught in hiding were often
shot, Wiesenthal reports that he was somehow spared.) Wiesenthal told
much the same story in his 1949 statement. He said that he fled from
internment in early October 1943 and then “fought against the Germans
as a partisan in the forest” for eight months — from October 2, 1943,
to March 1944. After that, he was “in hiding” in Lvov from March to
June 1944.

Wiesenthal tells a totally different story in his 1967 autobiography.
He reports there that after escaping from the Ostbahn Repair Works on
Oct. 2, 1943, he lived in hiding in the houses of various friends
until June 13, 1944, when he was discovered by Polish and German
police and returned to a concentration camp. He makes no mention of
any partisan membership or activity. [11]

According to both his 1948 interrogation and his 1967 autobiography,
he tried to commit suicide on June 15, 1944, by cutting his wrists.
Remarkably, though, he was saved from death by German SS doctors and
recovered in an SS hospital. [12] He remained in the Lvov
concentration camp “with double rations” for a time, and then, he
reports in his autobiography, he was transferred to various work
camps. He spent the remaining chaotic months, until the end of the
war, in different camps until he was liberated from Mauthausen (in
Austria) by American forces on May 5, 1945. [13]

Did Wiesenthal invent a past as a heroic wartime partisan? Or did he
later try to suppress his record as a Communist fighter? Or is the
true story altogether different — and too shameful to admit?

Nazi Agent?
Did Wiesenthal voluntarily work for his wartime oppressors? That’s the
accusation leveled by Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, himself of
Jewish ancestry and leader for many years of his country’s Socialist
Party. During an interview with foreign journalists in 1975, Kreisky
charged Wiesenthal with using “Mafia methods,” rejected his pretense
of “moral authority,” and suggested that he was an agent for the
German authorities. Some of his more pertinent remarks, which appeared
in Austria’s leading news magazine Profil, include: [14]

I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor … And I say that
Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can’t say more [now]. Everything
else, I’ll say in court.

My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It’s bad enough what
I’ve already said here. But he can’t clear himself by charging me with
defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It’s not that
simple, because that would mean a big court case … A man like this
doesn’t have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That’s what
I say. He doesn’t have the right …

Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that’s right, and who
uses Mafia methods … Such a man has to go …

He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
won’t become a moral authority, because he is not … He shouldn’t
pretend to be a moral authority …

I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

He wasn’t a “submarine” … that is, submerged and in hiding, but
instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
risk persecution. I think that’s enough. There were so many
opportunities to be an agent. He didn’t have to be a Gestapo agent.
There were many other services.

In response to these damning words, Wiesenthal began efforts to bring
a lawsuit against the Chancellor. Eventually, though, both Wiesenthal
and Kreisky backed away from a major legal clash.

Mauthausen Myths
Before he became famous as a “Nazi hunter,” he made a name for himself
as a propagandist. In 1946 Wiesenthal published KZ Mauthausen, an
85-page work that consists mainly of his own amateurish sketches
purporting to represent the horrors of the Mauthausen concentration
camp. One drawing depicts three inmates who had been bound to posts
and brutally put to death by the Germans. [15]

The sketch is completely phony. It was copied — with some minor
alterations — from photographs that appeared in Life magazine in
1945, which graphically record the firing-squad execution in December
1944 of three German soldiers who had been caught operating as spies
behind the lines during the “Battle of the Bulge.” [16] The source of
the Wiesenthal drawing is instantly obvious to anyone who compares it
with the Life photos. [17]

The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by Wiesenthal’s
extensive citation therein of the supposed “death bed confession” of
Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which four million
were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby Hartheim
satellite camp. [18] This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
Holocaust historian still accepts it. [19] Also according to the
Ziereis “confession” cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly
killed another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
[20] In fact, this fraudulent “confession” was obtained by torture.
[21]

Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
experience in Mauthausen: “I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
150,000 who had been put there.” [22] This is a blatant falsehood. The
years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal’s memory, because in
his own autobiography he wrote that “almost 3,000 prisoners died in
Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945.” [23]
Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
was liberated in May 1945. [24] And according to the Encyclopaedia
Judaica, at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the
Mauthausen camp complex. [25]

After the war Wiesenthal worked for the US Office of Strategic
Services (the forerunner of the CIA) and the US Army’s
Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC). He was also vice chairman of the
Jewish Central Committee in the US occupation zone of Austria. [26]

‘Human Soap’
Wiesenthal has given circulation and credence to one of the most
scurrilous Holocaust stories, the charge that the Germans manufactured
soap from the corpses of murdered Jews. According to this tale, the
letters “RIF” in bars of German-made soap allegedly stood for “Pure
Jewish Fat” (“Rein judisches Fett”). In reality, the initials stood
for “National Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning” (“Reichstelle
fur industrielle Fettversorgung”). [27]

Wiesenthal promoted the “human soap” legend in articles published in
1946 in the Austrian Jewish community paper Der Neue Weg (“The New
Path”). In an article entitled “RIF,” he wrote: “The terrible words
‘transport for soap’ were first heard at the end of 1942. It was in
the [Polish] General Government, and the factory was in Galicia, in
Belzec. From April 1942 until May 1943, 900,000 Jews were used as raw
material in this factory.” After the corpses were turned into various
raw materials, Wiesenthal wrote, “The rest, the residual fat stuff,
was used for soap production.”

He continued: “After 1942 people in the General Government knew quite
well what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not believe the
joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General Government
thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they saw a Jew who had
been magically put there, and had thus been prevented from growing
into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein.” [28]

In another imaginative article published in 1946 entitled “Belzec Soap
Factory,” Wiesenthal alleged that masses of Jews were exterminated in
electrocution showers: [29]

The people, pressed together and driven on by the SS, Latvians and
Ukrainians, go through the open door into the “bath.” Five hundred
persons could fit at a time. The floor of the “bath chamber” was made
of metal and shower heads hung from the ceiling. When the room was
full, the SS turned on the 5,000 volts of electric current in the
metal plate. At the same time water poured from the shower heads. A
short scream and the execution was over. An SS chief physician named
Schmidt determined through a peep hole that the victims were dead. The
second door was opened and the “corpse commando” came in and quickly
removed the dead. It was ready for the next 500.

Today no serious historian accepts the stories that Jewish corpses
were manufactured into bars of soap or that Jews were electrocuted to
death at Belzec (or anywhere).

Wiesenthal’s imaginative view of history is not limited to the
twentieth century. In his 1973 book Sails of Hope, he argued that
Christopher Columbus was a secret Jew, and that his famous voyage to
the western hemisphere in 1492 was actually a search for a new
homeland for Europe’s Jews. [30]

Wiesenthal is not always wrong, of course. In 1975 and again in 1993
he publicly acknowledged that “there were no extermination camps on
German soil.” [31] He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at
the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau
and other camps in Germany proper were “extermination camps” are not
true.

‘Fabrications’ About Eichmann
In more than 40 years of “Nazi hunting,” Wiesenthal’s role in locating
and capturing Adolf Eichmann is often considered his greatest
achievement. [32] (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish affairs
department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Argentina in May
1960 and hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide
media attention.)

But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that seized
Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had “absolutely
nothing” to do with the capture. (Harel is a former head of both the
Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel’s foreign and domestic security agencies.)
[33]

Wiesenthal not only “had no role whatsoever” in the apprehension, said
Harel, but in fact he endangered the entire Eichmann operation. In a
278-page manuscript, Harel carefully refuted every claim by Wiesenthal
about his supposed role in identifying and capturing Eichmann. Claims
by Wiesenthal and his many friends about his supposedly crucial role
in capturing the former SS officer, said Harel, have no foundation in
fact. Many specific assertions and incidents described in two books by
Wiesenthal, said the Israeli official, are “complete fabrications.”
[34]

“Wiesenthal’s reports and statements at that period prove beyond any
doubt that he had no notion of Eichmann’s whereabouts,” said Harel.
[35] (For example, just before Eichmann’s capture in Argentina,
Wiesenthal was placing him in Japan and Saudi Arabia.) [36]

Characterizing Wiesenthal as a rank opportunist, Harel summed up: “All
the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of
the [Eichmann] operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even
misleading and of negative value.” [37]

Reckless Charges in Walus Case
One of Wiesenthal’s most spectacular cases involved a Polish-born
Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated December 10, 1974, he
charged that Walus “delivered Jews to the Gestapo” in Czestochowa and
Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted a US government
investigation and legal action. [38] The Washington Post dealt with
the case in a 1981 article entitled “The Nazi Who Never Was: How a
witch hunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a
war criminal.” The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the
American Bar Association, reported: [39]

In January 1977, the United States government accused a Chicagoan
named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in Poland during
World War II.

In the following years, this retired factory worker went into debt in
order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. He sat in a
courtroom while eleven Jewish survivors of the Nazi occupation of
Poland testified that they saw him murder children, an old woman, a
young woman, a hunchback and others …

Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi War criminal,
that he was not even in Poland during World War II.

… In an atmosphere of hatred and loathing verging on hysteria, the
government persecuted an innocent man. In 1974, Simon Wiesenthal, the
famous “Nazi hunter” of Vienna, denounced Walus as “a Pole in Chicago
who performed duties with the Gestapo in the ghettos of Czestochowa
and Kielce and handed over a number of Jews to the Gestapo.”

The Chicago weekly newspaper Reader also reported on the case in a
detailed 1981 article headlined: “The Persecution of Frank Walus: To
Catch a Nazi: The U.S. government wanted a war criminal. So, with the
help of Simon Wiesenthal, the Israeli police, the local press and
Judge Julius Hoffman, they invented one.” [40] The article stated:

… It is logical to assume that the “reports received by Wiesenthal
[against Walus] actually were rumors… In other words, Simon
Wiesenthal had no evidence against Walus. He denounced him anyway.

While [Judge] Hoffman had the Walus case under advisement, Holocaust
aired on television. During the same period, in April 1978, Simon
Wiesenthal came to Chicago, where he gave interviews taking credit for
the Walus case. “How Nazi-Hunter Helped Find Walus,” was the Sun-Times
headline on a story by Bob Olmstead. Wiesenthal told Sun-Times Abe
Peck that he “has never had a case of mistaken identity.” “I know
there are thousands of people who wait for my mistake,” he said.

It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
vilified and physically attacked as “the butcher of Kielce” was
finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
bitterly disappointed man, man.

Wiesenthal’s recklessness in the Walus case should have been enough to
permanently discredit him as a reliable investigator. But his Teflon
reputation survived even this.

Wrong about Mengele
Much of the Wiesenthal myth is based on his hunt for Joseph Mengele,
the wartime physician at Auschwitz known as the “Angel of Death.” Time
and time again, Wiesenthal claimed to be close on Mengele’s heels.
Wiesenthal reported that his informants had “seen” or “just missed”
the elusive physician in Peru, Chile, Brazil, Spain, Greece, and half
a dozen locations in Paraguay. [41]

One of the closest shaves came in the summer of 1960. Wiesenthal
reported that Mengele had been hiding out on a small Greek island,
>from where he escaped by just a few hours. Wiesenthal continued to
peddle this story, complete with precise details, even after a
reporter whom he had hired to check it out informed him that the tale
was false from beginning to end. [42]

According to another Wiesenthal report, Mengele arranged for the
murder in 1960 of one of his former victims, a woman he had supposedly
sterilized in Auschwitz. After spotting her, and her distinctive camp
tattoo, at a hotel in Argentina where he was staying, Mengele
allegedly arranged to have her killed because he feared that she would
expose him. It turned out that the woman was never in a concentration
camp, had no tattoo, had never met Mengele, and her death was a simple
mountaineering accident. [43]

Mengele regularly dined at the finest restaurants in Asuncion, the
Paraguayan capital, Wiesenthal said in 1977, and supposedly drove
around the city with a bevy of armed guards in his black Mercedes
Benz. [44]

Wiesenthal announced in 1985 that he was “100 percent sure” that
Mengele had been hiding out in Paraguay until at least June 1984, and
charged that the Mengele family in Germany knew exactly where. As it
turned out, Wiesenthal was completely wrong. It was later definitively
established that Mengele had died in 1979 in Brazil, where he had been
living for years in anonymous poverty. [45]

Israel’s ambassador to Paraguay from 1968 to 1972, Benjamin (Benno)
Varon, remarked in 1983 on the Mengele campaign: “Wiesenthal makes
periodic statements that he is about to catch him, perhaps since
Wiesenthal must raise funds for his activities and the name Mengele is
always good for a plug.” Wiesenthal “failed miserably” in the Mengele
case, the diplomat said on another occasion. [46] In the Mengele case,
former Mossad chief Harel remarked, “Wiesenthal’s folly borders on the
criminal.” [47]

In truth, the bulging Mengele file in Wiesenthal’s Vienna
“Documentation Center” was such a jumble of useless information that,
in the words of the London Times, it “only sustained his
self-confirmatory myths and gave scant satisfaction to those who
apparently needed a definitive answer to Mengele’s fate.” [48]

In the considered view of Gerald Posner and John Ware, coauthors of
Mengele: The Complete Story, Wiesenthal spent years assiduously
cultivating a mythical “self-image of a tireless, dogged sleuth,
pitted against the omnipotent and sinister might of Mengele and a vast
Nazi network.” Because of his “knack of playing to the gallery,”
Posner and Ware concluded, Wiesenthal “ultimately compromised his
credibility.” [49]

‘Incompetence and Arrogance’
Eli Rosenbaum, an official with the US government’s “Nazi hunting”
Office of Special Investigations and an investigator for the World
Jewish Congress, took aim at Wiesenthal’s carefully cultivated “Nazi
hunter” reputation in a detailed 1993 book, Betrayal. [50] For
example, Rosenbaum mentioned, Wiesenthal “had all these reports
placing Mengele in almost every country in Latin America except the
one he was in — namely, Brazil.” [51]

Wiesenthal, wrote Rosenbaum, has been a “pathetically ineffective”
investigator who had “gone far beyond the buffoonery and false boasts
in prior years.” Much of his illustrious career, Rosenbaum said, has
been characterized by “incompetence and arrogance.” [52]

Bruno Kreisky once summed up his attitude towards the “Nazi hunter” in
these words: [53]

The engineer Wiesenthal, or whatever else his title is, hates me
because he knows that I despise his activity. The Wiesenthal group is
a quasi-political Mafia that works against Austria with disgraceful
methods. Wiesenthal is known as someone who isn’t very careful about
the truth, who is not very selective about his methods and who uses
tricks. He pretends to be the “Eichmann hunter,” even though everyone
knows that this was the work of a secret service, and that Wiesenthal
only takes credit for that.

‘Commercializing’ the Holocaust
The Los Angeles Wiesenthal Center pays the Vienna “Nazi Hunter”
$75,000 a year for the use of his name, the director of Israel’s Yad
Vashem Holocaust center said in 1988.

Both the Center and Wiesenthal “commercialize” and “trivialize” the
Holocaust, the director added.

Wiesenthal “threw out” the figure of “11 million who were murdered in
the Holocaust — six million Jews and five million non-Jews,” said the
Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
replied: “The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
their victims, too.” Wiesenthal “chose ‘five million (gentiles)’
because he wanted a ‘diplomatic’ number, one that told of a large
number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews
…” [54]

“What Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name do is
to trivialize the Holocaust,” commented The Jewish Press, a weekly
that claims to be the largest-circulation English-language Jewish
community paper in America.

In recent years Wiesenthal has been concerned about the growing impact
of Holocaust revisionism. In “A Message from Simon Wiesenthal”
published by the Center that bears his name, he said: “Today, when I
see the rise of antisemitism here in Europe … the popularity of Le
Pen, of David Duke, of the Holocaust revisionists, then I am convinced
more than ever about the need for our new [Wiesenthal Center] Beit
Hashoah-Museum of Tolerance” in Los Angeles. [55]

Wiesenthal is often asked why he does not forgive those who persecuted
Jews half a century ago. His stock answer is that although he has the
right to forgive for himself, he does not have the right to forgive on
behalf of others. [56] On the basis of this sophistical logic, though,
neither does he have the right to accuse and track down anyone in the
name of others. Wiesenthal has never confined his “hunt” to those who
victimized him personally.

‘Driven by Hatred’
It is difficult to say just what drives this remarkable man. Is it a
craving for fame and praise? Or is he trying to live down a shameful
episode from his past?

Wiesenthal clearly enjoys the praise he receives. “He is a man of
considerable ego, proud of testimonials and honorary degrees,” the Los
Angeles Times has reported. [57] Bruno Kreisky has given a simpler
explanation. He said that Wiesenthal is “driven by hatred.” [58]

In light of his well-documented record of deceit, lies and
incompetence, the extravagant praise heaped upon this contemptible man
is a sorry reflection of the venal corruptibility and unprincipled
self-deception of our age.

Notes
Quoted in: M. Weber, “‘Nazi Hunter’ Caught Lying,” The Spotlight
(Washington, DC), Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal on May 27 and 28, 1948, conducted by
Curt Ponger of the Interrogation Branch of the Evidence Division of
the Office (U.S.) Chief of Counsel for War Crimes. Interrogation No.
2820. On file at the National Archives (Washington, DC), “Records of
the U.S. Nürnberg War Crimes Trials Interrogations, 1946-49,” Record
Group 238, microfilm M-1019, roll 79, frames 460-469 and 470-476. Also
cited in: “New Documents Raise New Doubts About Simon Wiesenthal’s War
Years,” The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1988-89 (Vol. 8, No.
4), pp. 489-503.
PCIRO (International Refugee Organization, Austria) “Application for
Assistance” filled out and signed by Wiesenthal. Dated Jan. 16,1949.
(This was a trial exhibit in the Walus court case. Photocopy in
author’s possession.)
Simon Wiesenthal, The Murderers Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal
Memoirs. Edited by Joseph Wechsberg. (New York: McGraw Hill, 1967)
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal, May 27, 1948, pp. 1-2.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 27.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 29-35. This account is not inconsistent
with his 1948 and 1949 statements; See also: Simon Wiesenthal, Justice
Not Vengeance (New York: Grove Weidenfeld: 1989), pp. 7-9.
Interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 2. In a signed 1945 statement,
Wiesenthal wrote:
“… I escaped on October 18, 1943, from the Lemberg [Lvov] hard labor
camp where I was kept as a prisoner during my two years of labor at
the railroad works… and went into hiding until joining Jewish
partisans on November 21, 1943, who operated there. It was while
fighting in the partisan ranks against the Nazis that we managed to
collect and bury for safekeeping considerable amount of evidence…
When the partisans were dispersed by the Germans I fled to Lemberg on
February 10, 1944, and again went into hiding. On June 13, 1944, I was
found during a house to house search and was immediately sent to the
famous Lacki camp, near that city …” Source: “Curriculum Vitae of
Ing. Wiesenthal, Szymon.” SHAEF, Subject: War Crimes, July 6, 1945.
Records of USAEUR, War Crimes Branch, National Archives (Suitland,
Maryland), Records Group 338, Box 534, Folder 000-50-59. Wiesenthal’s
alleged partisans activities are also recounted in Alan Levy, The
Wiesenthal File (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1994), pp. 50-53.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, pp. 1-2.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, p. 5.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 35-37.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 37-38; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, p. 2,
and May 28, 1948, p. 5; A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File (1994), p. 54.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 39-44; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, pp.
2-3.
Interview with foreign journalists in Vienna, Nov. 10, 1975. Text
published in: “War Wiesenthal ein Gestapo-Kollaborateur?,” Profil
(Vienna), No. 47, Nov. 18, 1975, pp. 16, 22-23; Reprinted in: Robert
H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), pp.
215-218, 222-223; Quoted in part in A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File
(1994), p. 349, and in, S. Wiesenthal, Justice Not Vengeance (New
York: 1989), pp. 7, 299. Kreisky was not alone in charging that
Wiesenthal had collaborated with the German Gestapo. Wim Van Leer,
columnist for the English-language daily Jerusalem Post, stated in May
1986 that a high-level police official in Vienna, citing confidential
police records, had told him during the early 1960s that these and
other charges against Wiesenthal were true. Source: J. Bushinsky,
“Nazi hunter sues over charges of links to Gestapo,” Chicago
Sun-Times, Jan. 31, 1987.
Simon Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (Linz and Vienna: Ibis-Verlag, 1946).
Facsimile reprint in: Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal:
Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 64.
“Firing Squad,” Life magazine, US edition, June 11, 1945, p. 50.
M. Weber and K. Stimely, “The Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal,”
The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984 (Vol. 5, No. 1), pp.
120-122; D. National-Zeitung (Munich), May 21, 1993, p. 3.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). See also facsimile reprint in:
Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982),
pp. 42, 46. This “confession” is a somewhat altered version of
Nuremberg document NO-1973; A new edition of Wiesenthal’s 1946 book
has been published under the title Denn sie Wussten, was sie tun:
Zeichnungen und Aufzeichnungen aus dem KZ Mauthausen (Vienna: F.
Deuticke, 1995). I am grateful to Robert Faurisson for bringing this
to my attention. He points out in a July 1995 essay that Wiesenthal
has deleted from this new edition both the “death bed confession” of
Ziereis as well as his drawing of the three Mauthausen inmates.
According to the Encyclopaedia Judaica (“Mauthausen,”, Vol. 11, p.
1138), a grand total of 206,000 persons were inmates of Mauthausen and
its satellite camps (including Hartheim) at one time or another.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). Facsimile reprint in: R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation, p. 47.
R. Faurisson, “The Gas Chambers: Truth or Lie?,” The Journal of
Historical Review, Winter 1981, pp. 330, 361. See also: Hans
Fritzsche, The Sword in the Scales (London: 1953), p. 185; Gerald
Reitlinger, The Final Solution (London: Sphere, pb., 1971), p. 515; M.
Weber, “The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust,” The Journal of
Historical Review, Summer 1992 (Vol. 12, No. 2), p. 182.
USA Today, April 21, 1983, p. 9A.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 44.
Evelyn Le Chene, Mauthausen: The History of a Death Camp (London:
1971), pp. 166-168 and 190-191.
“Mauthausen”, Encyclopaedia Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971),
vol. 11, p. 1138.
C. Moritz, ed., Current Biography 1975 (New York: H.W. Wilson, 1975),
p. 442; Wiesenthal interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 3.
Mark Weber, “Jewish Soap,” The Journal of Historical Review, Summer
1991 (Vol. 11, No. 2), pp. 217-227; See also: Robert Faurisson, “La
savon juif,” Annales d’Histoire Revisionniste (Paris), No. 1,
Printemps 1987, pp. 153-159.
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), No. 17/18, 1946, pp. 4-5. Article entitled
“RIF” by “Ing. Wiesenth.” (Simon Wiesenthal).
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), Nr. 19/20, 1946, pp. 14-15. Article entitled
“Seifenfabrik Belsetz” (“Belzec Soap Factory”), by “Ing. S.Wiesenth.”
S. Wiesenthal, Sails of Hope (Macmillan, 1973).
Letters by Wiesenthal in Books and Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5,
and in Stars and Stripes (European edition), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 14.
Facsimile of Stars and Stripes letter in The Journal of Historical
Review, May-June 1993, p. 10; In 1986 Wiesenthal lied about his 1975
statement. In a letter dated May 12, 1986, to Prof. John George of
Central State University in Edmond, Oklahoma (copy in author’s
possession), Wiesenthal wrote: “I have never stated that ‘there were
no extermination camps on German soil.’ This quote is false, I could
never have said such a thing.”
For example, in a letter (dated Sept. 13, 1993), published in The New
York Times, Sept. 29, 1993, Wiesenthal boasted: “I succeeded in
putting a number of Nazis on trial who had perpetrated horrendous
crimes in the Nazi era, including Adolf Eichmann, Franz Stangl, Gustav
Wagner,…”
S. Birnbaum, “Wiesenthal’s Claim on Eichmann Disputed by Former Mossad
Head,” Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin (New York), April
4, 1989. (Dispatch dated April 3).
J. Schachter, “Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture,” The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19. See also: Ruth Sinai, “Wiesenthal’s role in
Eichmann’s capture disputed,” Associated Press, The Orange County
Register, Feb. 25, 1990, p. A 26; L. Lagnado, “How Simon Wiesenthal
Helped a Secret Nazi,” Forward (New York), Sept. 24, 1993, pp. 1, 3.
J. Schachter, The Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991 (cited above).
Facsimile in Christian News, May 27, 1991, p. 19.
Arnold Forster, Square One (New York: 1988), pp. 187-189. (Forster was
general counsel of the Anti-Defamation League, a major Zionist
organization.)
J. Goldberg, “Top Spy Says Wiesenthal Lied About His Exploits,”
Forward (New York), Nov. 12, 1993, pp. 1, 4; R. Sinai, “Wiesenthal’s
role…,” The Orange County Register, Feb. 25, 1990 (cited above).
Michael Arndt, “The Wrong Man,” The Chicago Tribune Magazine, Dec. 2,
1984, pp. 15-35, esp. p. 23; Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The
Nazi Hunters (New York: Pharos Books, 1988), pp. 193-195.
“The Nazi Who Never Was,” The Washington Post, May 10, 1981, pp. B5,
B8.
“The Persecution of Frank Walus,” Reader (Chicago), Jan. 23, 1981, pp.
19, 30. After Wiesenthal was ultimately proven wrong in a similar case
in Canada, the Toronto Sun newspaper commented in an editorial: “It
seems that material provided by professional Nazi hunter Simon
Wiesenthal is wrong, but repeated anyway [in the media].” (Quoted by
M. Weber in The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984, pp.
120-122.)
Gerald L. Posner and John Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (New York:
Dell, 1987), pp. 220-221; Gerald Astor, The ‘Last’ Nazi: The Life and
Times of Dr. Joseph Mengele (Toronto: Paperjacks, 1986), p. 202.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (cited above), p.
220.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 179-180; G. Astor,
The ‘Last’ Nazi (cited above), pp. 178-180.
Time magazine, Sept. 26, 1977, pp. 36-38. Cited in: G. Posner and J.
Ware, Mengele (cited above), p. 219.
“Hunting the ‘Angel of Death’,” Newsweek, May 20, 1985, pp. 36-38. See
also: M. Weber, “Lessons of the Mengele Affair,” Journal of Historical
Review, Fall 1985 (Vol. 6, No. 3), p. 382. On Wiesenthal’s distortion
of truth in the Mermelstein-IHR case, see: M. Weber, “Declaration,”
Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1982 (Vol. 3, No. 1), pp. 42-43;
M. Weber, “Albert Speer and the ‘Holocaust,”‘ Journal of Historical
Review, Winter 1984 (Vol. 5, Nos. 2-4), p. 439.
Midstream, Dec. 1983, p. 24. Quoted in: G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele
(cited above), p. 219; Los Angeles Times, Nov. 15, 1985, p. 2.
J. Schachter, “Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture,” The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19.
Tom Bower in The Times (London), June 14, 1985, p. 14. Quoted in: G.
Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
Betrayal, by Eli M. Rosenbaum, with William Hoffer. Published in 1993
by St. Martin’s Press (New York). Reviewed by Jacob Heilbrunn in The
New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9.
Quoted in L. Lagnado, “How Simon Wiesenthal…,” Forward (New York),
Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
The New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9; Forward (New
York), Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
“Was hat Wiesenthal zu verbergen?,” D. National-Zeitung (Munich), Nov.
11, 1988, p. 4.
David Sinai, “News We Doubt You’ve Seen,” The Jewish Press (Brooklyn,
NY), Dec. 23, 1988. Based on report in the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz,
Dec. 16, 1988.
“A Message from Simon Wiesenthal,” Response: The Wiesenthal Center
World Report, Winter 1992, p. 11.
Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The Nazi Hunters (New York:
Pharos Books, 1988), p. 286; A. Popkin, “Nazi-Hunter Simon Wiesenthal:
‘Information is Our Best Defense’,” Washington Jewish Week, Oct. 29,
1987, p. 2.
Quoted in: M. Weber, The Spotlight, Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Quoted in D. National-Zeitung (Munich), July 8, 1988, p. 7, and in, R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 199.
#2009
From The Journal of Historical Review, July-August 1995 (Vol. 15, No.
4), pages 8-16. This is a revised and updated version of an article
that first appeared in the Winter 1989-90 issue of The Journal of
Historical Review.
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studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the
University of Munich, Portland State University and Indiana University
(M.A., 1977). For nine years he served as editor of the IHR’s Journal
of Historical Review.
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:25:41 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
wrote:
>On 4 Sep 2006 16:09:27 -0700, in de.soc.politik.misc “Deinos Dionysos”
> wrote:
>Albert Pfündl schrieb:
>> “G.Bartels” schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:[email protected]
>> Ein zweites Katyn

>> > Liegt Babi Yar nicht auch in der Naehe von Kiew?!

>> http://www.lsg.musin.de/gesch/geschichte/natsoz/massaker_von_babi_yar.htm

>Unter Deinem Link lesen wir:

>”Ende 1943 mußten jüdische KZ-Häftlinge die Leichen exhumieren und
>verbrennen, um zu versuchen, die Spur des Massenmordes zu verwischen.”

>Blobel, der für die Beseitigung des Grabes zuständig war, sagte aber:

>”3. During my visits in August I myself observed the burning of bodies
>in a mass grave near Kiev. This grave was about 55 m. long, 3 m. wide
>and 2-1/2 m. deep. After the top had been removed the bodies were
>covered with inflammable material and ignited. It took about two days
>until the grave burned down to the bottom. I myself observed that the
>fire had glowed down to the bottom. After that the grave was filled in
>and the traces practically obliterated.”

>Wie erklären uns die “seriösen Historiker” diesen Widerspruch? Und
>was für ein brennbares Material war das wohl? Scheint ja ein wahres
>Wunderzeug gewesen zu sein.

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Thanks for re-posting the entire article, so that more people can read it,
and discuss the topic.

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:12:46 GMT, “Marek Maciej Ziemba”
wrote:

>snipped

>”ArthurFranks” wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:59:13 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc egon-karl
>> ullrich
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ein Teil der Auflösung des ‘Rätsel – ja-wie-kann-denn-der-sowas-sagen-?’
>> ist ja bereits veröffentlicht im Artikelstran “Der Jude ist ein Parasit”
>> (wer lesen kann und will ist klar im Vorteil, der meist dämliche Spruch
>> trifft hier mal wirklich zu), dort gibts auch ein zion. Original-Buch
>> zum runterladen:
>>
>> Es handelt sich in den “Subjects” um Zitate aus der zionistischen
>> Literatur von zionistischen Philosophen und zion. Vordenkern bzw. aus
>> der unangefochtenen Fachliteratur über den Zionismus bzw. über die zion.
>> Ideologie. Und die zitierten sind noch harmlos, statt “dreckiger Hund”,
>> kann man auch übersetzen “stinkender Hund”, lt. ‘LEO.dict’
>>
>> Wer meine Schriften kennt, dem war das auch von Anfang an klar. Anfänger
>> und Deppen gibts aber auch hier in dieser NG.
>>
>>
>> Hier der Beweis aus dem marxistischen Bereich (eigentl. jüd.-marx.
>> Bereich) des Herkunftsjuden Lenni Brenner, Wissenschaftsjournalist:
>>
>> (aus dem Englischen)
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> Lenni Brenner
>>
>> Zionismus im Zeitalter der Diktatoren
>> (Zionism in the Age of the Dictators)
>>
>>
>> 2. Blut und Boden (Blood and Soil)
>>
>>
>> Die Wurzeln des zionistischen Rassismus
>>
>>
>> Es war der Antisemitismus – alleine – welcher den Zionismus begründete.
>> Herzl konnte seine Bewegung in keiner Weise auf irgendeinem positiven
>> jüdischen Selbstverständnis aufbauen.
>>
>> Obwohl er die Unterstützung durch die Rabbiner anstrebte, war er
>> persönlich nicht gläubig. Er hatte kein besonderes Interesse an
>> Palästina, dem antiken Heimatland; er war ganz erpicht darauf, daß das
>> kenianische Hochland akzeptiert wird, zumindest auf einer zeitweiligen
>> Grundlage. Er hatte kein Interesse an Hebräisch; er betrachtete seinen
>> jüdischen Staat als ein sprachliches Abbild der Schweiz.
>>
>> Der Rassengedanke lag für ihn in der Luft; die deutschen Antisemiten
>> sprachen von den Juden als Rasse, bald jedoch verwarf er diese Doktrin
>> und nutzte in einer paradoxen Diskussion Israel Zangwill, einen seiner
>> frühesten Gefolgsleute, als ein Beispiel für seine Ablehnung dieser
>> Idee. Er beschrieb den englisch-jüdischen Autor so:
>>
>> “… vom langnasigen Neger-Typ, mit wolligem, tief-schwarzem Haar … er
>> stützt jedoch den Rassegedanken – manches daran kann ich gelten lassen,
>> ich muß lediglich ihn und dann wieder mich anschauen. Alles was ich
>> sagen kann: wir sind eine historische Einheit, eine Nation mit
>> anthropologischer Vielfalt.” [1]
>>
>>
>> Unbekümmert von religiösen Überlegungen, schlug er einen Atheisten, den
>> damals weltberühmten Autor Max Nordau, als seinen Nachfolger als
>> Präsident der WZO (Zionistische Weltorganisation) vor.
>>
>>
>> Und wieder waren die Jünger weniger liberal als ihr Herr.
>>
>> Nordau war mit einer Christin verheiratet und befürchtete, daß sich die
>> Orthodoxen auf allen Ebenen daran stoßen würden. Er war bereits
>> verheiratet, als er zum Zionismus konvertierte und wurde bald, trotz
>> seiner nichtjüdischen Ehefrau, ein anerkannter jüdischer Rassist.
>>
>> Am 21. Dezember 1903 gab er Eduard Drumonts radikal antisemitischer
>> Zeitung ‘La Libre Parole’ ein Interview, in welchem er sagte, daß der
>> Zionismus keine Sache der Religion sondern der Rassen-Exklusivität sei
>> und “es gibt keinen, mit welchem ich in größerer Übereinstimmung in
>> diesem Punkt stehe, als M. Drupont”. [3]
>>
>> Obwohl sich nur ein einziger nationaler Ableger der WZO (der
>> holländische Verband im Jahr 1913) jemals darum bemühte, die Juden,
>> welche in gemischten Ehen lebten, auszuschließen, starb der
>> kosmopolitische Zionismus einen frühen Tod mit Herzl im Jahr 1904. [4]
>>
>>
>> Die Bewegung in Osteuropa, ihre Massenbasis, teilte die spontanen
>> volks-religiösen Vorurteile der orthodoxen Gemeinden ihres Umfeldes.
>>
>> Obwohl die traditionellen Juden Missionierung kannten und Ehen mit
>> Nicht-Juden als Verstärkung ihrer Glaubenskraft ansahen, brachte später
>> von der katholischen Kirche ausgehender Druck die Rabbiner dazu,
>> Konvertierungen als “lästiges Jucken” zu betrachten und sie stellten die
>> Missionierung ein.
>>
>> Im Laufe der Jahrhunderte, wurde die Selbst-Abgrenzung zum Kennzeichen
>> der Juden. Mit der Zeit betrachteten die Massen Mischehen als Verrat an
>> der Orthodoxie. Obwohl im Westen nur manche Juden die Religion
>> abwandelten und “Reform”-Sekten bildeten sowie andere sich vom Gott
>> ihrer Vorväter gänzlich abwandten, ging der Lauf im Wesentlichen weg vom
>> Judaismus.
>>
>> Wenige nur stießen zur jüdischen Welt hinzu, entweder durch
>> Konvertierung oder Heiraten.
>>
>> Obschon der westliche Zionismus sich in einer mehr säkularen Atmosphäre
>> entwickelte als jener Ost-Europas, betrachtete die Masse seiner
>> Mitglieder Misch-Ehen eher als Wegführung der Juden von der Gemeinde
>> denn als Hinzufügung zu ihr.
>>
>> Die deutschen Akademiker, welche die zionistische Bewegung nach Herzls
>> Tod übernahmen, entwickelten die modernistisch-rassistische Ideologie
>> vom jüdischen Separatismus [Loslösungsstreben].
>>
>> Sie waren stark beeinflußt von ihren pan-germanischen Studenten-Kollegen
>> der ‘Wandervögel’ (Zugvögel oder Freigeister), welche den deutschen
>> Campus vor 1914 dominierten. Diese Chauvinisten wiesen die Juden als
>> nicht von germanischem Blut zurück; folglich konnten sie niemals Teil
>> des Deutschen Volkes sein und waren grundsätzlich Fremde auf deutschem
>> Boden. Alle jüdischen Studenten waren gezwungen, sich mit diesen
>> Konzepten, welche sie umringten, auseinander zu setzen.
>>
>> Ein paar bewegten sich nach links und wurden Sozialdemokraten. Für jene
>> war dies [der Wandervögel-Chauvinismus, Anm. eku] nur ein mehr
>> bourgeoiser Nationalismus und war als solcher zu bekämpfen.
>>
>> Die meisten blieben herkömmlich kaisertreu, standhafte Nationalisten,
>> welche darauf beharrten, daß tausend Jahre auf deutschem Boden aus ihnen
>> “Deutsche mosaischen Glaubens” gemacht hatten.
>>
>> Aber ein Anteil der jüdischen Studenten eignete sich die
>> ‘Wandervögel’-Ideologie an und übertrug sie einfach in zionistische
>> Terminologie.
>>
>> Sie stimmten mit den Antisemiten in mehreren Punkten überein: die Juden
>> waren kein Teil des Deutschen Volkes und, natürlich, Juden und Deutsche
>> sollten sich nicht geschlechtlich vermischen, nicht aus den traditionell
>> religiösen Gründen, sondern um der Reinheit ihres eigenen einzigartigen
>> Blutes willen.
>>
>> Da nicht von deutschem Blut, hätten sie zwangsläufig ihren eigenen Boden
>> zu bekommen: Palästina.
>>
>> Auf den ersten Blick schien es befremdlich, daß jüdische Studenten aus
>> der Mittel-Klasse derart beeinflußt durch antisemitisches Gedankengut
>> sein sollten, besonders, da zur selben Zeit der Sozialismus mit seiner
>> assimilationistischen Haltung gegenüber den Juden beträchtliche
>> Unterstützung in der Gesellschaft um sie herum gewann.
>>
>> Der Sozialismus appelierte jedoch vorwiegend an die Arbeiter, nicht an
>> die Mittel-Klasse; in ihrer Umwelt herrschte der Chauvinismus vor,
>> obwohl intellektuell, lehnten sie ihre Verbindung zum Deutschen Volk ab,
>> und in der Tat, niemals emanzipierten sie sich von der deutschen
>> Kapitalistenklasse, den ganzen Ersten Weltkrieg hindurch unterstüzten
>> sie leidenschaftlich ihre eigene Regierung.
>>
>>
>> [Anm. eku: s.a. “Max-Bodenheimer-Archiv”. Deutsche Zionisten bilden im
>> 1. WK mittels maßgeblicher Beteiligung der Kölner Fam. Bodenheimer
>> (=zionistisches Establishment) Unterstützungskommitee, dieses reist an
>> die Ostfront, bildet Judenräte in den befreiten Gebieten Polens, nennt
>> die Juden Europas “Deutsche” oder “deutschenfreundlich” und – nicht
>> zuletzt – sitzt buchstäblich als Ehren-Gast an Kaisers Esstisch!]
>>
>>
>> In all ihrem grandiosen intellektuellen Anspruch, war ihr völkischer
>> Zionismus doch nur einfach eine Imitation der deutschen
>> nationalistischen Ideologie. Deshalb war der junge Philosoph Martin
>> Buber fähig, während dem Ersten Weltkrieg den Zionismus mit inbrünstigem
>> deutschen Patriotismus zu verbinden.
>>
>> In seinem Buch ‘Drei Reden über das Judentum’, veröffentlicht im Jahre
>> 1911, sprach Buber über einen Jugendlichen, der:
>>
>> “einen Sinn hat für die Unsterblichkeit der Generationen einer
>> Blutgemeinschaft, welche er als Vorgänger seines Ich empfindet, dessen
>> Ausdauer wird unendlich währen.
>>
>> Hinzu kommt die Entdeckung, befördert durch sein Bewußtsein, daß Blut
>> eine tief verwurzelte, nährende Kraft im Inneren jedes einzelnen
>> Menschen ist;
>>
>> daß die tiefsten Schichten unseres Seins vom Blut bestimmt sind;
>>
>> daß unser innerstes Denken und unser Wille davon gefärbt sind.
>>
>> Jetzt findet er heraus, daß die Welt um ihn eine Welt der Eindrücke und
>> Einflüsse ist, wohingegen Blut das Reich einer beeinflußbaren und
>> beeindruckbaren Substanz ist, einer Sustanz die alles in ihre eigene
>> Form aufnimmt und anpasst, und, wer auch immer, vor die Wahl, Umgebung
>> oder Blut gestellt, sich für die Substanz entscheidet, fortan ein wahrer
>> Jude aus seinem Innersten sein muß, um zu leben als ein Jude mit all den
>> Widersprüchen, der Tragödie und all der späteren Verheißung seines
>> Blutes” [5]
>>
>> [Anm. eku: naturgemäß unvollkommene Rückübersetzung, werde noch
>> versuchen, den Originaltext Bubers zu bekommen…]
>>
>> Die Juden leben in Europa seit Jahrtausenden, weit länger, sagen wir
>> mal, als die Ungarn. Niemand träumte davon, sich auf die Ungarn als
>> Asiaten zu beziehen, jedoch, so Buber, die Juden Europas wären noch
>> Asiaten und würden es voraussichtlich immer bleiben.
>>
>> “Du kannst den Juden aus Palästina rauskriegen, aber niemals Palästina
>> raus aus dem Juden.”
>>
>>
>> Im Jahr 1916 schrieb Buber, daß der Jude:
>>
>> “vertrieben wurde aus seinem Land und über die Länder des Abendlandes
>> verstreut wurde, jedoch, trotz all dem, blieb er ein Orientale. Man kann
>> all dies im noch so sehr assimlierten Juden entdecken, wenn man Zugang
>> zu seiner Seele gewinnt … der unvergängliche, allen Juden gemeinsame
>> Trieb – dieser wird in das Sein einkehren nach einer Fortdauer des
>> Lebens in Palästina … Sobald der Trieb mit seiner Mutters Scholle in
>> Berührung kommt, wird er wieder schöpferisch.” [6]
>>
>> Bubers völkischer Zionismus, mit seinen ausgesuchten Strängen mystischen
>> Überschwangs, war jedoch zu vergeistigt um ein breites Publikum
>> anzusprechen.
>>
>> Was gebraucht wurde, war eine populäre zionistische Version des
>> Sozial-Darwinismus, welcher die bourgoise intellektuelle Welt des
>> aufbrechenden europäischen imperialen Wettbewerbs nach Afrika und nach
>> Osten überschwemmte.
>>
>> Die zionistische Version dieser Auffassung wurde von dem
>> österreichischen Anthropologen Ignatz Zollschan entwickelt. Für ihn war
>> der verborgene Nutzen des Judaismus, daß jener, obgleich unabsichtlich,
>> das Wunder der Wunder bewirken würde:
>>
>> “Eine Nation von reinem Blut, unverdorben von den Krankheiten des
>> Exzesses oder der Unmoral, von einem hoch entwickelten Sinn für
>> familiäre Reinheit und von tief verwurzelten tugendhaften Gewohnheiten
>> würde eine außergewöhnliche geistige Regsamkeit entwickeln.
>> Darüberhinaus sorgt das Verbot der Mischehen dafür, daß dieser
>> höchst-ethische Schatz durch reinmixen von weniger umsichtig
>> hervorgebrachten Rassen nicht verloren geht … daraus resultiert eine
>> naturgemäße Auswahl, welche keine Parallele in der Geschichte der
>> menschlichen Rasse findet … Wenn eine Rasse, die so hoch beschenkt
>> ist, die Gelegenheit bekommt, erneut ihre ursprüngliche Kraft zu
>> entwickeln, kann dem nichts gleichkommen, soweit es den kulturellen Wert
>> anbelangt.” [7]
>>
>> Sogar Albert Einstein unterschrieb die zionistischen Rassenkonzepte,
>> damit verstärkte er den Rassismus und verlieh ihm das Prestige seiner
>> Reputation. Seine eigenen Beiträge zur Diskussion klingen entsprechend
>> tiefsinnig, sie beruhen jedoch auf dem selben Unsinn.
>>
>> “Nationen mit rassischen Unterschieden scheinen Instinkte zu besitzen,
>> welche gegen ihre Verschmelzung wirken. Die Assimilation der Juden in
>> die europäischen Nationen … konnte nicht das Gefühl eines Mangels an
>> Verwandtschaft zwischen ihnen und jenen, unter denen sie lebten,
>> beseitigen. Letzten Endes ist das instinktive Gefühl des fehlenden
>> Verwandschaftsverhältnisses auf das Gesetz der Energieerhaltung
>> zurückzuführen. Aus diesem Grund kann es [das instinktive Mangelgefühl,
>> Anm. eku] durch keinen noch so wohlmeinenden Druck ausgerottet werden.”
>> [8]
>>
>> Buber, Zollschan und Einstein waren nur drei der klassischen Zionisten,
>> welche hochtrabend gelehrt über Rassen-Reinheit redeten. Jedoch konnte
>> der schiere Fanatismus Einiger nicht den des Amerikaners Maurice Samuel
>> einholen.
>>
>> Als ein gut bekannter Autor jener Zeit – später, in den 1940er Jahren
>> arbeitete er mit Weizman an dessen Autobiographie – wendete sich Samuel
>> im Jahre 1927 in seinem Werk, ‘Ich, der Jude’, an die amerikanische
>> Öffentlichkeit. Er denunzierte mit Horror eine Stadt, der er
>> bereitwillig zugestand, daß er sie nur vom Hörensagen kannte – und von
>> der uns die vorgelegten Hinweise nahelegen, daß es sich um die
>> ungebunden lebende Künstler-Kolonie bei Taos, Neu-Mexiko, handelt:
>>
>> “Auf diesem kleinen Platz kamen Repräsentanten der afrikanischen Neger,
>> der Amerikaner und der chinesischen Mongolen zusammen, der Semite und
>> der Arier … freie Mischehen setzen sich durch … Warum erfüllt mich
>> dieses Bild, teils wirklich, teils phantastisch, mit einem befremdenden
>> Abscheu, suggeriert es das Ekelerregende, das düstere Bestialische? …
>> Wieso ruft dieses Dorf, wie meine Phantasie heraufbeschwört, den
>> Gedanken an einen Haufen Reptilien hervor, die hässlich in einem
>> Wasserkübel brüten?” [9]
>>
>>
>>
>> “Um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit sein”
>>
>>
>> Obwohl ‘Blut’ ein wiederkehrendes Thema in der zionistischen
>> vor-Holokaust-Literatur war, war dieses nicht so zentral wie die
>> Botschaft vom ‘Boden’.
>>
>> Solange Amerikas Grenzen [relativ, Anm. eku] offen blieben, fragten
>> Europas Juden: wenn der Antisemitismus nicht in seiner Heimat bekämpft
>> werden konnte, warum sollten sie nicht einfach der Menge nach Amerika
>> folgen?
>>
>> Die zionistische Antwort war doppelt gewappnet: Antisemitismus würde die
>> Juden begleiten, wohin immer sie auch gingen, und, darüberhinaus, es
>> waren die Juden selbst, welche den Antisemitismus durch ihre eigene
>> Charackteristik hervor riefen.
>>
>> Die Wurzel des Antisemitismus, beharrten die Zionisten, war die jüdische
>> Exil-Existenz.
>>
>> Die Juden lebten parasitär von ihren “Wirtsvölkern”. Es gäbe so gut wie
>> keine jüdischen Bauern in der Diaspora. Die Juden lebten in den Städten,
>> sie waren der manuellen Arbeit entfremdet, oder, um es unverblümt zu
>> sagen, sie mieden diese und beschäftigten sich lieber mit
>> intellektuellen oder kommerziellen Angelegenheiten. Ihre Beanspruchung
>> des Patriotismus war bestenfalls hohl, da sie ewig von Land zu Land
>> wanderten. Und als sie selbst sich einbildeten, sie wären Sozialisten
>> und Internationalisten, waren sie in Wirklichkeit nicht mehr als die
>> Mittelsmänner der Revolution, welche die “Schlachten anderer Leute”
>> ausfochten.
>>
>> Diese zusammengefaßten Lehren waren bekannt als ‘Shelilat Ha’galut’ [Die
>> Verneinung der Diaspora], an der sich das gesamte Spektrum der Zionisten
>> festhielt, nur in Details variiert.
>>
>> Sie wurden in der zionistischen Presse energisch vertreten, in der die
>> ausgeprägte Qualität vieler Artikel aus der Feindseligkeit gegenüber dem
>> gesamten jüdischen Volk bestand. Wenn irgendjemand diese Fetzen ohne
>> Kenntnis der Quellen las, würde er automatisch vermuten, daß sie der
>> antisemitischen Presse entstammten.
>>
>> Die ‘Weltanschauung’ der Jugendorganisation ‘Hashomer Hatzair’ [Junge
>> Wächter], ursprünglich verfaßt im Jahr 1917, allerdings erst 1936 wieder
>> neu veröffentlicht, war typisch für diese Art Ergüsse:
>>
>> “Der Jude ist die Karikatur eines normalen, natürlichen Menschen, in
>> physischer wie spiritueller Hinsicht. Als Einzelwesen in der
>> Gesellschaft rebelliert er und wirft die gesellschaftlichen Bindungen
>> ab, er kennt weder Ordnung noch Disziplin.” [10]
>>
>>
>> Ganz ähnlich konnte so im Jahre 1935 Ben Frommer, ein Autor der
>> ultra-rechten zionistisch-revisionistischen Bewegung, nicht weniger als
>> 16 Millionen seiner Mit-Juden [offenbar wurde seine Erklärung weltweit
>> verbreitet, Anm. eku] erklären, daß:
>>
>> “Die Tatsache ist unabweisbar, daß die Juden kollektiv krank und
>> neurotisch sind. Jene Berufs-Juden, welche nun erschüttert diese
>> Wahrheit entrüstet zurückweisen, sind die größten Feinde ihrer Rasse,
>> denn sie führen sie dadurch auf die Suche nach falschen Lösungen oder
>> zumeist nur nach Beschönigungen.” [11]
>>
>> Diese Art des jüdischen Selbsthasses durchsetzte einen großen Teil des
>> zionistischen Schrifttums.
>>
>> Im Jahre 1934 erregte Yehezkel Kaufman – damals berühmt als Gelehrter
>> für biblische Geschichte an der Hebräischen Universität zu Jerusalem,
>> und obwohl selbst Zionist, dennoch ein Gegner der bizarren Theorie der
>> Negation der Diaspora – wütende Kontroversen durch eine Auswahl der
>> hebräischen Literatur mit noch schlimmeren Beispielen.
>>
>> Auf Hebräisch konnten die pathetischen Schreiber ihre Mit-Juden ohne
>> Furcht vor dem Vorwurf, den Judenhassern Munition zu liefern, regelrecht
>> zur Sau machen. Kaufmans ‘Hurban Hanefesh’ (Holokaust der Seele) zitiert
>> dazu drei der klassisch-zionistischen Vordenker.
>>
>> Für Micah Yosef Berdichevsky waren die Juden “keine Nation, kein Volk,
>> keine Menschen”.
>>
>> Für Yosef Chaim Brenner waren sie nicht mehr als “Zigeuner, dreckige
>> Hunde, nicht-menschlich, erbärmliche Hunde”.
>>
>> Für Aaron David Gordon war sein Volk nicht besser als “Parasiten,
>> grundsätzlich unnütze Leute”. [12]
>>
>> [Anm. eku: dieses Buch Kaufmans, wohl als eine Kritik an den
>> zionistischen Pöbeleien gemeint, hatte Julius Streicher lt. Text der
>> Webseite der frommen, ultra-orthodoxen Juden, JewsAgainstZionism,
>> gekannt, aus dieser Quell hatte Streicher offenbar eine Reihe seiner
>> Beschreibungen und Ausdrücke für die Juden gewonnen]
>>
>> Natürlich mußte Maurice Samuel seine Schönschrift einbringen, um
>> Verleumdungen gegen seine Mit-Juden zusammen zu brauen.
>>
>> Im Jahr 1924 fabrizierte er in seinem Werk ‘Ihr Nicht-Juden’ (You
>> Gentiles) eine von ihrem eigenen bösartigen Schöpfer gegen die
>> christliche Ordnung angetriebene Judenheit:
>>
>> “Wir Juden, wir, die Zerstörer, werden für immer die Zerstörer bleiben.
>> Egal was ihr macht, nie wird es unserem Anspruch genügen. Ewig werden
>> wir zerstören, denn wir brauchen unsere eigene Welt, eine Gottes-Welt,
>> zu deren Erschaffung ihr nicht veranlagt seid … jene von uns, welche
>> diese Wahrheit nicht begreifen, werden sich immer wiederfinden in
>> Allianz mit euren rebellischen Gruppen, bis die Desillusionierung kommt,
>> unser elendes Schicksal, welches uns in eurer Mitte verstreute, hat uns
>> diese unwillkommene Rolle aufgedrängt.” [13]
>>
>>
>> Der Labour-Zionismus [linke, nicht-marxistische Strömung] brachte seine
>> eigene einzigartige Sorte des jüdischen Selbsthasses hervor.
>>
>> Trotz seines Namens und Anspruches, war der Labour-Zionismus niemals
>> fähig, einen signifikanten Anteil der jüdischen Arbeiterklasse in auch
>> nur irgendeinem Land der Diaspora für sich einzunehmen.
>>
>> Seine Mitglieder führten ein selbst-widerlegendes Argument an: sie
>> behaupteten, daß die jüdischen Arbeiter nur in “marginalen” Industrien
>> beschäftigt seien, in solchen wie der Nadel-Industrie [Nadeln für
>> Textilherstellung und Grammophone, Anm. eku], welche keine wesentliche
>> Bedeutung für die VolksWirtschaften der “Wirts”-Nationen hatten, daher
>> würden die jüdischen Arbeiter immerwährend marginal für die
>> Arbeiterbewegung in den Ländern ihres Aufenthalts bleiben.
>>
>> Jüdische Arbeiter, so wurde behauptet, könnten einen “gesunden”
>> Klassenkampf nur in ihrem eigenen Land wagen.
>>
>> Arme Juden zeigten natürlich wenig Interesse an einer sogenannten
>> Arbeiter-Bewegung, welche ihnen nicht etwa erzählte, mit allem was sie
>> vermochten für die Verbesserung der gegenwärtigen Bedingungen zu
>> kämpfen, sondern sich eher um das weit entfernte Palästina zu sorgen.
>>
>> Der Ruf der zionistischen Arbeiter-Bewegung richtete sich paradoxerweise
>> primär an jene jungen Mittelklasse-Juden, welche den Bruch zu ihrer
>> Herkunfts-Klasse suchten, war jedoch nicht bereit, sich dann den
>> Arbeitern der Länder ihres Aufenthalts zu zuwenden.
>>
>> Der Labour-Zionismus wurde so eine Art Gegenkultur-Sekte, welche die
>> jüdischen Marxisten wegen deren Internationalismus und die jüdische
>> Mittelklasse als parasitische Ausbeuter der “Wirts”völker anprangerte.
>>
>> Im Endeffekt übertrugen sie den traditionellen Antisemitismus ins
>> Jiddische: die Juden waren in den falschen Ländern in den falschen
>> Berufen und machten die falsche Politik.
>>
>> Es brauchte den Holokaust, um diesem Gejammer einen Sinn zu geben.
>>
>> Erst dann erkannten sie den gemeinsamen Nenner in ihrer eigenen
>> Botschaft und der anti-jüdischen Propaganda der Nazis.
>>
>> Im März 1942 gestand Chaim Greenberg, zu der Zeit Herausgeber des
>> Labour-zionistischen Presse-Organs ‘Jewish Frontier’ in New York,
>> schmerzlich ein, daß es tatsächlich
>>
>> “eine Zeit [gegeben hat,] als es für zionistische Sprecher
>> (einschließlich den Schreiber) modisch war, von ihrem Standpunkt aus zu
>> erklären, ‘um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit
>> sein’. Bis zu diesem Tag stehen die zionistischen Labour-Kreise unter
>> dem Einfluß der Vorstellung, daß die Rückkehr nach Zion einen Prozeß der
>> Reinigung von unseren ökonomischen Unsauberkeiten einschließt. Jeden,
>> der keine sogenannte ‘produktive’ manuelle Arbeit ergreift, hält man für
>> einen Sünder gegen das Volk Israel und gegen die Menschheit.” [14]
>>
>>
>>
>> [b]”Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda”[/b]
>>
>> Wenn irgendjemandem ohne weitere Fakten erzählt würde, daß die ersten
>> Zionisten Rassisten waren, würde derjenige automatisch vermuten, daß
>> dies ein Teil der kolonialistischen Seite des Zionismus in Palästina sei.
>>
>> Tatsächlich ist dem nicht so; Der ‘Blut-Zionismus’ hätte sich auch
>> entwickelt, wenn Palästina komplett unbewohnt gewesen wäre. Die
>> Begeisterung für ‘Blut und Boden’ war bereits Teil des Zionismus, bevor
>> der erste moderne Zionist jemals Europa verließ.
>>
>> Der Rassen-Zionismus hingegen war ein merkwürdiger Ableger des
>> Rassen-Antisemitismus.
>>
>> Gewiß, so argumentierten die Zionisten, die Juden waren eine reine
>> Rasse, bestimmt reiner als, sagen wir mal, die Deutschen, die einen
>> großen Zuschlag slawischen Blutes besaßen, wie sogar die All-Deutschen
>> eingestanden. Für diese Zionisten konnte jedoch noch nicht mal ihr
>> Glaube an die Rassen-Reinheit den einen Makel der jüdischen Existenz
>> überspielen: die Juden verfügten nicht über ihren eigenen jüdischen Boden.
>>
>> Wenn die teutonischen Rassisten sich als ‘Übermenschen’ sehen konnten,
>> sahen diese hebräischen Rassisten die Juden eben nicht in diesem Licht;
>> eher war das Gegenteil der Fall.
>>
>> Sie glaubten, daß wegen des Fehlens eines eigenen Bodens die Juden
>> “Untermenschen” wären, daher wären diese, aus der Sicht ihrer “Wirte”,
>> wenig mehr als Blutsauger: die Welt-Pest eben.
>>
>> Wenn man an den Wahrheitsgehalt der rassischen Exklusivität glaubt,
>> fällt es schwer, etwas gegen den Rassismus von irgendjemand anderem
>> einzuwenden.
>>
>> Wenn man weiters daran glaubt, daß es für ein Volk unmöglich ist, gesund
>> zu bleiben, außer in seinem eigenen Heimatland, kann man nichts gegen
>> irgendeinen anderen einwenden, der “Fremde” von seinem Territorium
>> ausschließt.
>>
>> Tatsächlich jedoch dachte der Durchschnitts-Zionist selbst niemals
>> daran, das zivilisierte Europa zu verlassen, um es gegen die Wildnis
>> Palästinas einzutauschen. In Wirklichkeit ist es offensichtlich, daß ihm
>> die zionistische ‘Blut und Boden’-Ideologie eine vortreffliche
>> Begründung lieferte, den Antisemitismus nicht auf dessen Heimatboden zu
>> bekämpfen: Es war nicht der Fehler der Antisemiten, es kam von dem
>> eigenen Pech der Juden, ihrem Dasein im Exil.
>>
>> Die Zionisten konnten tränenreich darlegen, daß in dem Verlust
>> Palästinas die Wurzel des Antisemitismus lag und die Wiedergewinnung
>> Palästinas die einzige Lösung der Judenfrage wäre. Alles andere könne
>> nur Beschönigung sein oder zwecklos.
>>
>> Walter Laqueur, Wortführer der zionistischen Historiker, fragte in
>> seinem Buch, ‘A History of Zionism’ [Die Geschichte des Zionismus], ob
>> das zionistische Beharren auf der Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus
>> nicht doch das “Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda” war. [15]
>>
>> Sicher war es das.
>>
>> Laqueurs Frage kann jedoch am besten mit einer anderen Frage beantwortet
>> werden: ist es schwierig, den leichtgläubigen Leser einer Nazi-Zeitung
>> zu verstehen, der daraus schloß, daß das, was die Nazis erklärten und
>> welchem die Zionisten – Juden – zustimmten, richtig sein müsse?
>>
>> Und es kam noch schlimmer: jede jüdische Bewegung, welche über die
>> Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus schwätzte, geradeso, als wäre jener
>> “natürlich”, strebte nach vertraglichen Übereinkommen mit den Nazis, als
>> diese an die Macht kamen.
>>
>> ——–
>>
>> Fußnoten und Quellen:
>>
>> 1. Marvin Lowenthal (ed.), The Diaries of Theodor Herzl, p.78.
>>
>> 2. Amos Elon, Herzl, p.255.
>>
>> 3. Desmond Stewart, Theodor Herzl, p.322.
>>
>> 4. The WZO is structured by national states, and elections are held on a
>> national basis for the World Zionist Congress; the various ideological
>> tendencies which are world-wide in their structure, run in the various
>> national elections for delegates.
>>
>> 5. Martin Buber, On Judaism, pp.15-19.
>>
>> 6. Ibid., pp.75-7.
>>
>> 7. Ignatz Zollschan, Jewish Questions (1914) pp.17-18.
>>
>> 8. Solomon Goldman, Crisis and Decision (1938), p.116.
>>
>> 9. Maurice Samuel, I, the Jew, pp.244-6.
>>
>> 10. Our Shomer “Weltanschauung”, Hashomer Hatzair (December 1936), p.26.
>>
>> 11. Ben Frommer, The Significance of a Jewish State, Jewish Call
>> (Shanghai, May 1935), p.10.
>>
>> 12. Yehezkel Kaufman, Hurban Hanefesh: A Discussion of Zionism and
>> Anti-Semitism, Issues (Winter 1967), p.106.
>>
>> 13. Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, p.155.
>>
>> 14. Chaim Greenberg, The Myth of Jewish Parasitism, Jewish Frontiers
>> (March 1942), p.20.
>>
>> 15. Walter Laqueur, A History of Zionism, p.500.
>>
>> ************************************************************************
>> http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch02.htm
>>
>

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On 29 Nov 2006 23:27:44 -0800, in uk.politics.misc “Arthur Brain”
wrote:

The media seem institutionally incapable of surmounting the
government-proscribed pro-Israel bias in order to discuss honestly and
openly the facts surrounding the problems created in Palestine by the
zionists.

Fact#1: Zionism is a marxist-inspired ideology. Ironically, Zionism’s
greatest supporters are the right-wing fringe of US/UK/Australian
politics. Hilarious, if this particular axis of evil hadn’t been the
cause of 60 years of warfare and untold tens of thousands of deaths.

Fact#2: Palestine was a fact, Israel an invention of the zionist
movement. This is the fact that scares them the most, hence the
perpetual zionist bleating about Palestine “not existing” – patent
nonsense, of course.

Fact#3: The zionist movement was represented by a variety of
bloodthirsty terrorist organisations such as the Haganah, Stern gang
(of which Israeli PM Shamir was a member), Irgun (of which Israeli PM
Begin was a member). The fact that notorious terrorists should be
considered suitable PM material says a lot about the philosphy of the
state of Israel.

Fact#4: The UN partition plan for Palestine was democratically rejected
by a majority of the population of Palestine, due to its proposal to
hand over more than 50% of Palestinian territory to a jewish population
which at the time only owned 6% of Palestine.

Fact#5: Disregarding the democratically-expressed wishes of the
Palestinian people, the zionist terrorist groups fought together in
1948 to take the land by force, during which they forcibly expelled
800, 000 Palestinians from their homes in a monstruous act of
ethnic-cleansing. The zionist “Plan Dalet”, which informed these acts,
also led to the deliberate and systematic razing of 400 Palestinian
villages in order to prevent the cleansed Palestinians from ever
returning to their homes – this act falls under the
internationally-recognised definition of “genocide”.

Fact#6: War crimes are also an integral feature of the zionist state:
remember the Israeli invasion of Lebanon (yes, there have been a
few…) during which Israeli officers including Ariel Sharon directed
an attack on Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla during
which women and children were mass-murdered. Earlier in his Israeli
army career Sharon was responsible for the slaughter of 69 civilians in
the Qibya village in Jordanian-controlled territory in 1953.

Fact#7: After 60 years of continual warfare, is it not time to admit
that Israel, a marxist-inspired ideologically-driven religious state
which is not inclusive and discriminates against non-jews, is not a
going concern and for the good of the entire world’s peace and security
should be dismantled once and for all?

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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:52:31 -0400, in soc.culture.german “127.0.0.1”
<[email protected]> wrote:

One Third of the Holocaust

Download this video!
http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=692
A 4 hour movie on the subject of Treblinka, Sobibor, and Belzec.

=======

Judea Declares War on Germany
1 hr 12 min 44 sec – Jul 16, 2006
Download this video!
http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=690
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel
wartime propaganda?
This fascinating documentary investigates the myths surrounding
the legend.

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On 30 Oct 2006 07:01:42 -0800, in can.politics “[email protected]
wrote:

A new book in Germany is casting light on Israel’s covert program to
provoke violence among Muslims in Western Europe and engage in “false
flag” operations in order for Western governments to blame Muslim
radicals.

The book, Der Krieg im Dunkeln (War in the Dark) by Udo Ulfkotte,
formerly a correspondent for the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung,
provides details of the operations of two Israeli intelligence units —
the Metsada, which specializes in sabotage, including “false flag”
terrorist attacks and assassinations; and LAP (Lohamah Psichlogit),
which engages in psychological warfare.

Ulfkotte’s previous book on Islamist extremism, titled The War In Our
Cities, was withdrawn from the German market because of “massive legal
pressures by Islamic plaintiffs.” Ulfkotte claims that British and
German intelligence agents encountered Metsada and LAP agents in France
stirring up violence during the November 2005 riots, blamed on Islamic
extremists.

WMR has also reported that Interior Minister and presidential candidate
Nicolas Sarkozy, who is supported by pro-Israeli factions in France,
coordinated and continues to coordinate the paying of agents
provocateurs to engage in violence in the predominantly Muslim Banlieus
of Paris and other cities.

The November 2005 riots spread from Paris to Rouen, Lille, Nice, Dijon,
Strasbourg, Marseilles (where Mossad’s Brach C, also responsible for
Paris and London, maintains a large station), Bordeaux, Rennes, Pau,
Orleans, Toulouse, Lyon, Roubaix, Avignon, Saint-Dizier, Drancy,
Evreux, Nantes, Dunkirk, Montpellier, Valenciennes, Cannes, and
Tourcoing.

Ulfkotte also quotes a British MI-6 source who reported that Israel’s
goal is to portray Muslims as unpredictable threats who cannot be
integrated into Western society.

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Number=295010237#Post295010237

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:01:45 -0400, in alt.revisionism “Neil Harrington”
wrote:

>From Prof. Norman Finkelstein’s site, January 2006 article

New Woes at the House of Hucksters (w/Finkelstein’s comment)

NGF comments: In The Holocaust Industry I documented the World Jewish
Congress’s double shakedown of Swiss banks and Nazi holocaust victims. The
mastermind of this plot was a repellant sewer rat named Rabbi Israel Singer
who headed the World Jewish Congress. In the appendix to the second
paperback edition of my book I stated that Singer won’t be stopped “unless
he is finally put where he belongs, behind bars.” It seems that day might
not be so far off. In the past year it has been reported that while
denouncing the Swiss banks for using secrecy laws to deny Jews access to
their Holocaust-era accounts, Singer himself opened up a secret Swiss bank
account where he was squirreling away monies pilfered from the World Jewish
Congress. Now it seems that the House of Hucksters is beset with yet new
scandals.

Ganzfried, the Swiss journalist, has been sharply critical of Jewish
communal efforts to win back Holocaust-era assets, which have roiled Swiss
Jews’ relations with their neighbors. He said his upcoming articles will be
aimed at documenting the shortcomings in that process.

WJC Fights Publication Of Articles On Its Woes

January 20, 2006 | The Forward
By NATHANIEL POPPER

The World Jewish Congress is fighting to block publication in Switzerland of
a series of magazine articles that reportedly will contain damaging new
allegations about the organization’s management and handling of funds.

(article continues at this link)

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=55

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Of what are you afraid, that you do not wish discussion of the subject?

Should not war criminals, and liars involved, be prosecuted, in the interest
of all the victims, whether Christian Polish, Ukrainians, Russians?

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:58:29 +0200, “Joseph Ladovic”
wrote:

>I think that your comment by any democratic law should not take a place in
>this newsgroup.

>”FrankArthur” wrote in message
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>> But the filthy Christkiller ZYDS still demand billions from Christians
>> everywhere for the so-called HOLOHOAX!!

>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:22:13 -0400, in soc.culture.jewish “ElParedon”
>> wrote:
>> “Daniel Bernard” wrote in message
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>>> The Dynamic Duo Of Lies

>>> Written by Jayne Gardner

>>> Part of what helped me to finally understand that I had been lied to
>>> about the Holocaust was the very testimony of some of the more famous
>>> survivors. Reading what happened to them during the war made
>>> absolutely no sense when stacked up against what we were being told
>>> about the horrors endured by the Jews in Europe’s concentration camps.
>>> For instance, Elie Wiesel, a man who has come to personify the
>>> Holocaust, told of Jews being thrown into open pits of fire at
>>> Auschwitz, a fate that he only managed to escape by sheer chance.
>>> Here he differs from the majority of survivors who told of gas
>>> chambers being the instrument of death for the majority of camp
>>> inmates:

>>> “Forced to choose from among several Allied war propaganda lies, he
>>> chose to defend the fire lie instead of the boiling water, gassing, or
>>> electrocution lies. In 1956, when he published his testimony in
>>> Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in certain circles. This lie is
>>> the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no longer a single
>>> historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The myths of the
>>> boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared. Only the gas
>>> remains.”

>>> “In his autobiography, Wiesel writes:

>>> “Not far from us, flames were leaping up from a ditch, gigantic
>>> flames. They were burning something there. A lorry drew up at the pit
>>> and delivered its load – little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it – saw
>>> it with my own eyes. those children in the flames. (Is it surprising
>>> that I could not sleep after that? Sleep had fled from my eyes.) So
>>> this is where we were going. A little farther on was another and
>>> larger ditch for adults. [.] ‘Father,’ I said, ‘if that is so, I don’t
>>> want to wait here. I’m going to run to the electric wire. That would
>>> be better than slow agony in the flames.'”

>>> Compare this with the explanation given by Thies Christopherson in his
>>> article entitled Reflection On Auschwitz And West German Justice:

>>> “At first, those who died at Auschwitz were buried, but because of the
>>> high ground water level (one meter) in this area between the Vistula
>>> and Sola rivers, that practice couldn’t be continued. A labor team
>>> headed by SS Staff Sergeant Moll (who had been in charge of the
>>> agricultural nursery at Raisko) was assigned to dig up the buried
>>> corpses and burn them. This was done on an open fire. The most
>>> unbelievable stories were told about this procedure. West German
>>> television even broadcast a film of this which was supposedly made in
>>> secret by an SS man.”

>>> As Wiesel continues his story, he is saved by nothing short of a
>>> miracle:

>>> “Our line had now only fifteen paces to go. I bit my lips so that my
>>> father would not hear my teeth chattering. Ten steps still. Eight.
>>> Seven. We marched slowly on as though following a hearse at our own
>>> funeral. Four more steps. Three steps. There it was now, right in
>>> front of us, the pit and its flames. I gathered all that was left of
>>> my strength, so that I could break the ranks and throw myself upon the
>>> barbed wire. In the depth of my heart I bade farewell to my father, to
>>> the whole universe; and, in spite of myself, the words formed
>>> themselves and issued a whisper from my lips: Yitgadal veyitkadach
>>> shmé raba. May His name be blessed and magnified.. My heart was
>>> bursting. The moment had come. I was face to face with the Angel of
>>> Death. No. Two steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left
>>> and made to go into our barracks.”

>>> Mr. Wiesel’s lies are many and varied. When writing about the
>>> slaughter at Babi Yar, he wrote:

>>> “Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground
>>> never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood
>>> spurted from it.”

>>> He claimed that they killed 10,000 Jews a day at Buchenwald but some
>>> how, miraculously, he was always spared. Is it likely that one 15 year
>>> old boy could survive not one, but three concentration camps whose
>>> entire raison d’etre was to kill as many Jews as possible?

>>> It has been said that Elie Wiesel “is the Holocaust,” and yet when he
>>> wrote his autobiographical novel, Night there is no mention of gas
>>> chambers. He has been caught in lie after lie and yet to this day he
>>> holds to his story in spite of a great deal of evidence that he has
>>> been less than truthful.

>>> In an account of Wiesel’s time at Auschwitz, he claims that, while
>>> working, he injured his foot and had to spend some time in the camp
>>> infirmary. Of course, this begs the question as to why a camp which
>>> was built, ostensibly, to annihilate Jews would even have an
>>> infirmary. Does it make any sense that a place built for the sole
>>> purpose of killing Jews on a large scale would bother having an
>>> infirmary staffed with doctors and nurses? And if Wiesel, then a 15
>>> year old boy with an injured foot, could not even work, why would they
>>> not just kill him on the spot?

>>> What really convinced me that Wiesel is a liar is that, as the Russian
>>> army approached Auschwitz and liberation was on the horizon, why, when
>>> given the chance of remaining in the camp to be freed by the Soviets
>>> or to evacuate with the Germans, Wiesel decided, along with about
>>> 20,000 other survivors, to leave with the Germans? In light of what we
>>> have been taught about the Holocaust, why would someone leave with his
>>> tormentors, who, he claimed, were depraved mass murderers, instead of
>>> waiting for his liberators?

>>> It makes no sense whatsoever to rational people and it is to his
>>> eternal shame that Wiesel has been one of the worst offenders when it
>>> comes to selling Holocaust lies to an unsuspecting public, even
>>> winning the Nobel Peace Prize in the process. When President Jimmy
>>> Carter needed to choose someone to take charge of the President’s
>>> Commission on the Holocaust he chose an unapologetic liar, Elie
>>> Wiesel.

>>> A few weeks back, I watched the Oprah Winfrey show in which she
>>> escorted Mr. Wiesel around the grounds of Auschwitz. He showed great
>>> humility as he walked with Ms. Winfrey through the camp where he had
>>> been interned as a child, a performance which should be considered for
>>> an Academy Award in the category of keeping a poker face while
>>> continuing to recite the same old lies.

>>> Mr. Wiesel should be ashamed of himself.

>>> Our second liar is none other than Nazi-hunter extraordinaire, Simon
>>> Wiesenthal, who devoted his post war life to hunting down Nazi war
>>> criminals. According to Mark Webber, of the Institute For Historical
>>> Review:

>>> “Wiesenthal’s reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
>>> whom The Washington Post has called the “Holocaust’s Avenging Angel”
>>> has a little known but well-documented record of reckless disregard
>>> for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
>>> misrepresented his postwar “Nazi-hunting” achievements, and has spread
>>> vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities.”

>>> It is unclear what exactly happened during Wiesenthal’s war years,
>>> since he has said various things at various times that are completely
>>> at odds with one another. There were accusations that he was, at one
>>> time, a Communist fighter, and still others that he was a Nazi
>>> collaborator, an accusation leveled against him by Austrian Chancellor
>>> Bruno Kreisky, who said:

>>> “I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
>>> bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor … And I say that
>>> Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
>>> did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can’t say more [now]. Everything
>>> else, I’ll say in court.

>>> My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
>>> their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
>>> one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It’s bad enough what
>>> I’ve already said here. But he can’t clear himself by charging me with
>>> defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It’s not that
>>> simple, because that would mean a big court case … A man like this
>>> doesn’t have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That’s what
>>> I say. He doesn’t have the right …

>>> Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that’s right, and who
>>> uses Mafia methods …

>>> Such a man has to go….

>>> He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
>>> won’t become a moral authority, because he is not … He shouldn’t
>>> pretend to be a moral authority …

>>> I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
>>> influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
>>> being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
>>> know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

>>> He wasn’t a “submarine” … that is, submerged and in hiding, but
>>> instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
>>> risk persecution. I think that’s enough. There were so many
>>> opportunities to be an agent. He didn’t have to be a Gestapo agent.
>>> There were many other services.”

>>> Before Wiesenthal became famous for being a “Nazi hunter,” he had
>>> already made a name for himself spreading Holocaust propaganda,
>>> including the famous claim of Jewish fat being rendered and made into
>>> soap which was later proven to be a complete fabrication.

>>> In 1946, he published a book in which he included what he purported to
>>> be his own original sketches of the horrors going on in Mauthausen
>>> concentration camp. One of the drawings was of three inmates, tied to
>>> a post who had been murdered by the Germans. Unfortunately for Mr.
>>> Wiesenthal, this was soon exposed as a fraud, since the original
>>> drawing was an actual photograph of three German soldiers who had been
>>> executed by firing squad for spying and was found in a 1945 edition of
>>> Life Magazine.

>>> “The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by
>>> Wiesenthal’s extensive citation therein of the supposed “death bed
>>> confession” of Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which
>>> four million were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby
>>> Hartheim satellite camp. This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
>>> Holocaust historian still accepts it. Also according to the Ziereis
>>> “confession” cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly killed
>>> another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia. In fact,
>>> this fraudulent “confession” was obtained by torture.

>>> Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
>>> interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
>>> experience in Mauthausen: “I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
>>> 150,000 who had been put there. “This is a blatant falsehood. The
>>> years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal’s memory, because in
>>> his own autobiography he wrote that “almost 3,000 prisoners died in
>>> Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945.”

>>> Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
>>> about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
>>> was liberated in May 1945. And according to the Encyclopaedia Judaica,
>>> at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the Mauthausen camp
>>> complex.”

>>> Wiesenthal’s lies continued with his outrageous claims that millions
>>> of Jews were killed in “electrocution showers,” something that has
>>> since been completely debunked by historians. In 1975 and again in
>>> 1993, Weisenthal confessed that there were no extermination camps on
>>> German soil.

>>> “He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at the postwar
>>> Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau and other
>>> camps in Germany proper were “extermination camps” are not true.”

>>> Wiesenthal lied yet again when he claimed that he was responsible for
>>> the capture and trial of Adolph Eichmann and because of his
>>> machinations, an innocent man by the name of Frank Walus was smeared
>>> and denounced (falsely) by Wiesenthal as being a Nazi war criminal.

>>> “It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
>>> vilified and physically attacked as “the butcher of Kielce” was
>>> finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
>>> farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
>>> bitterly disappointed man. Wiesenthal’s recklessness in the Walus case
>>> should have been enough to permanently discredit him as a reliable
>>> investigator. But his Teflon reputation survived even this.”

>>> Wiesenthal kept the world enthralled with his hunt for the infamous
>>> “Angel of Death,” Dr. Josef Mengele who Weisenthal claimed had been
>>> sighted in various Latin-American countries. He played the role of
>>> “Nazi crime sleuth” with a vengeance, ultimately damaging his
>>> credibility with his outrageous claims.

>>> Wiesenthal was paid $75,000 annually for the use of his name at the
>>> Los Angeles Wiesenthal Centre and has been criticized widely for the
>>> commercializtion of the Holocaust. The director of Israels Yad Vashem
>>> Holocaust Centre said that: “Both the Center and Wiesenthal
>>> “commercialize” and “trivialize” the Holocaust.”

>>> It was Simon Wiesenthal who gave us the 11 million figure for the
>>> Holocaust, comprising 6 million Jews and another 5 million non-Jews.

>>> “Wiesenthal “threw out” the figure of “11 million who were murdered in
>>> the Holocaust — six million Jews and five million non-Jews,” said the
>>> Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
>>> replied: “The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
>>> their victims, too.” Wiesenthal “chose ‘five million (gentiles)’
>>> because he wanted a ‘diplomatic’ number, one that told of a large
>>> number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews

>>> Towards the end of his life, Wiesenthal became disturbed by the claims
>>> made by “historical revisionists” and was particularly incensed by the
>>> work of David Duke. I’m sure that’s understandable in light of the
>>> fact that Wiesenthal was an adept and convincing liar and greatly
>>> feared having those lies exposed.

>>> What is particularly telling is that Simon Wiesenthal attempted
>>> suicide twice while in a concentration camp and both times he was
>>> taken to the infirmary to be nursed back to health. Surely such a
>>> thing would never happen in a place dedicated to exterminating every
>>> Jew in Europe.

>>> These two men, Wiesel and Wiesenthal, have come to represent the
>>> Holocaust. Mr. Wiesel is the consummate victim, the self-appointed
>>> guru of pathos and martyrdom, telling lies and fabricating aspects of
>>> the Holocaust in order to garner sympathy. Mr. Wiesenthal devoted his
>>> life to tracking down Nazi war criminals, seeking self-aggrandizement
>>> in the process, perhaps also trying to run from his troubling and
>>> largely fabricated past.

>>> These two men will go down in history as heroes, most likely, unless
>>> they are exposed, and rightly so, as charlatans and liars.

>>> Because that’s what they are.

>> ELIE WIESENTHAL was a Gestapo agent who sent dozens of Bukovina partizans
>> to the gallows. If he ever crossed the border into the Soviet Union he
>> would have been hung on the spot!

>>> Daniel
>>> http://toutsaufsarkozy.com/

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>> for JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>> WITH NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case –
>> no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>> Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> Stormfront – http://www.stormfront.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]
>> Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library – http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>> American Renaissance – http://www.amren.com
>> Campaign for Radical Truth in History – http://www.hoffman-info.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> Reply-To: Frank Arthur ,
>> or to Steve Horn ,
>> [email protected], or [email protected]
>> Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
>> homosexuals and the like.

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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don’t give a damn about girls of other
>confessions.
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>> wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest…….

>> >>From: Rameses
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700

>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>”Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel’s
>> >>thriving sex industry.

>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery”.

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don’t
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.

>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant

>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with

>> Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: “George”

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This SPAM SCAM has been posted to hundreds of newsgroups.
Looks like similar to the Nigerian scam.

Do not send any money – just ignore the scam.

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:23:24 -0600, “mike” wrote:

> hello i always figured this would never happen to me but my heart is having serious issuses do to a birth defect (i was born with a hole in my heart)and need money to have the surgery to get the hole fix so i am asking for donations to help with the cost since i dont have insurance so if you have a paypal account please look into your heart and donate a dollar or two my paypal emial is [email protected] i need around 20,000 dollars usd to have the surgery done. This is my last resort for money i have tried goverment agencies family and friends and to my dissapointment nothing happened SO PLEASE I NEED HELP thank you so much mike collins

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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don’t give a damn about girls of other
>confessions.
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>> wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest…….

>> >>From: Rameses
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700

>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>”Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel’s
>> >>thriving sex industry.

>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery”.

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don’t
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.

>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant

>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with

>> Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: “George”

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PRAVDA!!

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:23:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

>Worth reposting, so people know how perfidous are the Christkiller
>ZHIDS!!
>
>On 24 Sep 2004 08:12:45 -0700, [email protected]
>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>
>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest…….
>>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought
>>it should be reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the
>>>so-called “Russian Revolution” of 1917 is that
>>>Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews,
>>>and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn
>>>anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these facts,
>>>it remains undeniable that communism was both a
>>>Jewish created and led revolutionary movement.
>>
>>>First, it is a well known fact that the father
>>>of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended
>>>from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant
>>>importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively
>>>by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today
>>>would probably identify themselves as atheists,
>>>but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in
>>>communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish,
>>>let’s see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection
>>>as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed
>>>between American representatives in Russia and
>>>Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik
>>>take-over of Russia.
>>
>>>The following quotes are taken directly from documents
>>>available from the U.S.Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918
>>>by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers:
>>>”Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from
>>>Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell:
>>>”Fifty percent of Soviet government
>>>in each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary
>>>Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram
>>>from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.Montgomey Shuyler:
>>>”It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has
>>>been since it’s beginning guided and controlled by
>>>Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from
>>>Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding
>>>Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384`commissars’
>>>including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS.
>>>Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from
>>>the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov),
>>>most of the leading Communists who took control of
>>>Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet
>>>general, who had access to the KGB archives, that
>>>Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!)
>>
>>>Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and,
>>>for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs.
>>
>>>Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s
>>>executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government.
>>
>>>Grigori Zinoviev(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist
>>>International (Comintern), the central agency for
>>>spreading revolution in foreign countries.
>>
>>>Other prominent Jews included press commissar
>>>Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar
>>>Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>>>and Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia,
>>>warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington:
>>>”The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews
>>>and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles,
>>>care little for Russia or any other country but are
>>>internationalists and they are trying to start a
>>>worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke,
>>>confirmed this: “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the
>>>bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form
>>>or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality,
>>>and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends
>>>the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes
>>>out-of-context, here’s three paragraphs from
>>>Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the
>>>Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on
>>>the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed
>>>in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having
>>>come over from the lower east side of New York. Some
>>>of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very
>>>much pleased that there was somebody who could speak
>>>English, and their broken English showed that they had
>>>not qualified as being Americans. A number of these men
>>>called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish
>>>element in this thing right from the beginning, and it
>>>soon became evident that more than half the agitators
>>>in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews…I have
>>>a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>>>one of its bases is found in the east side of New York…
>>>The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>>with good authority, startling information, is this,
>>>that in December, 1918, in the northern community of
>>>Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>>>Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16
>>>happened to be real Russians, with the exception of
>>>one man, a Negro from America who calls himself
>>>Professor Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly
>>>after the great revolution of the winter of 1917,
>>>there were scores of Jews standing on the benches
>>>and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed,
>>>and I often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are
>>>we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.’
>>>Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having
>>>Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they
>>>swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came
>>>into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a
>>>predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters
>>>and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident
>>>that now that was to be one of the great languages
>>>of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding
>>>sources are “anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable,
>>>but they’d be wrong. Here’s a few Jewish sources that
>>>essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of
>>>Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish
>>>planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the
>>>world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish
>>>dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also,
>>>through the same Jewish mental and physical forces,
>>>become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in
>>>the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals
>>>of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest
>>>ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>>April, 4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American
>>>Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership
>>>of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
>>>comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population.”
>>>(Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks
>>>was to make so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime.
>>>This is confirmed by Stalin (Jozef Djugashvili –
>>>believed to be part zhid) himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the
>>>misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of
>>>cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of
>>>racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are
>>>liable to the death penalty.”
>>>(Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being
>>>destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs,
>>>synagogues and rabbis were left virtually untouched.
>>
>>
>>ZHIDS = CHEKA/NKVD MURDERERS
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars
>>>(many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of
>>>terror against the non-Jewish Russian population.
>>
>>>In one case alone, they deliberately starved to
>>>death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s
>>>in one of the most vile campaigns in history:
>>>In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports
>>>W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million
>>>persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in
>>>Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even
>>>more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Roger Hughes
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>It seems that the foul zhids only want to be parasites in society,
>>such as lawyers(pronounced liars), and corrupt politicians.
>>
>>For more than 2000 years, people worldwide have suffered from
>>these parasites, in every society where they have resided.
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

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PRAVDA!!

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:23:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

>Worth reposting, so people know how perfidous are the Christkiller
>ZHIDS!!
>
>On 24 Sep 2004 08:12:45 -0700, [email protected]
>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>
>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest…….
>>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought
>>it should be reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the
>>>so-called “Russian Revolution” of 1917 is that
>>>Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews,
>>>and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn
>>>anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these facts,
>>>it remains undeniable that communism was both a
>>>Jewish created and led revolutionary movement.
>>
>>>First, it is a well known fact that the father
>>>of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended
>>>from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant
>>>importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively
>>>by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today
>>>would probably identify themselves as atheists,
>>>but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in
>>>communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish,
>>>let’s see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection
>>>as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed
>>>between American representatives in Russia and
>>>Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik
>>>take-over of Russia.
>>
>>>The following quotes are taken directly from documents
>>>available from the U.S.Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918
>>>by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers:
>>>”Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from
>>>Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell:
>>>”Fifty percent of Soviet government
>>>in each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary
>>>Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram
>>>from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.Montgomey Shuyler:
>>>”It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has
>>>been since it’s beginning guided and controlled by
>>>Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from
>>>Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding
>>>Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384`commissars’
>>>including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS.
>>>Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from
>>>the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov),
>>>most of the leading Communists who took control of
>>>Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet
>>>general, who had access to the KGB archives, that
>>>Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!)
>>
>>>Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and,
>>>for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs.
>>
>>>Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s
>>>executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government.
>>
>>>Grigori Zinoviev(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist
>>>International (Comintern), the central agency for
>>>spreading revolution in foreign countries.
>>
>>>Other prominent Jews included press commissar
>>>Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar
>>>Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>>>and Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia,
>>>warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington:
>>>”The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews
>>>and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles,
>>>care little for Russia or any other country but are
>>>internationalists and they are trying to start a
>>>worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke,
>>>confirmed this: “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the
>>>bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form
>>>or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality,
>>>and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends
>>>the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes
>>>out-of-context, here’s three paragraphs from
>>>Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the
>>>Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on
>>>the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed
>>>in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having
>>>come over from the lower east side of New York. Some
>>>of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very
>>>much pleased that there was somebody who could speak
>>>English, and their broken English showed that they had
>>>not qualified as being Americans. A number of these men
>>>called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish
>>>element in this thing right from the beginning, and it
>>>soon became evident that more than half the agitators
>>>in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews…I have
>>>a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>>>one of its bases is found in the east side of New York…
>>>The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>>with good authority, startling information, is this,
>>>that in December, 1918, in the northern community of
>>>Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>>>Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16
>>>happened to be real Russians, with the exception of
>>>one man, a Negro from America who calls himself
>>>Professor Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly
>>>after the great revolution of the winter of 1917,
>>>there were scores of Jews standing on the benches
>>>and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed,
>>>and I often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are
>>>we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.’
>>>Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having
>>>Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they
>>>swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came
>>>into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a
>>>predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters
>>>and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident
>>>that now that was to be one of the great languages
>>>of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding
>>>sources are “anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable,
>>>but they’d be wrong. Here’s a few Jewish sources that
>>>essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of
>>>Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish
>>>planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the
>>>world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish
>>>dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also,
>>>through the same Jewish mental and physical forces,
>>>become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in
>>>the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals
>>>of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest
>>>ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>>April, 4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American
>>>Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership
>>>of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
>>>comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population.”
>>>(Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks
>>>was to make so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime.
>>>This is confirmed by Stalin (Jozef Djugashvili –
>>>believed to be part zhid) himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the
>>>misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of
>>>cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of
>>>racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are
>>>liable to the death penalty.”
>>>(Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being
>>>destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs,
>>>synagogues and rabbis were left virtually untouched.
>>
>>
>>ZHIDS = CHEKA/NKVD MURDERERS
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars
>>>(many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of
>>>terror against the non-Jewish Russian population.
>>
>>>In one case alone, they deliberately starved to
>>>death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s
>>>in one of the most vile campaigns in history:
>>>In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports
>>>W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million
>>>persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in
>>>Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even
>>>more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Roger Hughes
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>It seems that the foul zhids only want to be parasites in society,
>>such as lawyers(pronounced liars), and corrupt politicians.
>>
>>For more than 2000 years, people worldwide have suffered from
>>these parasites, in every society where they have resided.
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
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together with

Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
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Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

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With even the Soviets forced to admit that it was their ZYD NKVD who did the
murders at KATYN, why are you apologising for them?

Historians and experts proved it was NOT the Germans!

Were you one of the killers, or perhaps your father, uncle or?

On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, “Peter Wielki” wrote:

>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukraninians that did the crime,
>as far as I know.
>
>But yeah, let’s blame it on JEWS!!! Germans did it too, right Frankie?

>”Frank Arthur” wrote in message
>news:[email protected]
>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!
>>
>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.
>>
>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.
>>
>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!
>>
>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles
>>
>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)
>>
>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>> the
>> discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in
>> realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to
>> slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single
>> shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1,
>> 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had
>> been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to
>> The
>> Final Solution, which had not yet begun.
>>
>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a
>> year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used
>> the
>> word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned,
>> as
>> dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>> single
>> narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was
>> to
>> eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>> guardians.
>>
>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the
>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside
>> Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.
>>
>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget
>> Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.
>>
>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the
>> truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most
>> pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship
>> between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.
>>
>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding
>> him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder
>> victims.
>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and
>> for
>> all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily,
>> and
>> Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.
>>
>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by
>> which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew
>> of
>> the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>> three –
>> two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to those lies.
>>
>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five
>> years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>> anything.
>>
>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>> the
>> diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government
>> in
>> the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>> victims of Katyn.
>>
>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of
>> which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians
>> –
>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this
>> must have had on Kremlin thinking?
>>
>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of
>> a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city,
>> the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.
>>
>>
>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>
>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>
>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.
>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.
>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>
>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.
>>
>> ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESAE ZHID MURDERERS!!
>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.
>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.
>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZHIDS isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
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>>
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>> Newsgroups:
>> pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,alt.politics.europe
>> Subject: KATYN=MURDERS BY ZHIDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!
>>
>> The filthy ZHIDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.
>>
>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.
>>
>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!
>>
>>
>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:
>> soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles
>>
>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)
>>
>>
>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary
>> of the discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in
>> realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to
>> slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single
>> shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1,
>> 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated
>> to The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.
>>
>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a
>> year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis,
>> who invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely
>> used the word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler
>> learned, as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers
>> from a single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide:
>> its
>> intent was to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its
>> perceived guardians.
>>
>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the exiled
>> Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers.
>> A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.
>>
>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget
>> Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.
>>
>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and the
>> terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the
>> truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most
>> pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.
>>
>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his
>> future murder victims. And when Stalin jested that they should settle the
>> German problem once and for all by killing 50,000 German officers,
>> Churchill
>> merely protested sulkily, and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing
>> only 49,000.
>>
>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three
>> knew of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently,
>> all
>> three – two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to
>> those lies.
>>
>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn:
>> once Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with
>> almost anything.
>>
>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn
>> into the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan
>> Government in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a
>> memorial in London to the victims of Katyn.
>>
>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of
>> which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians
>> –
>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this
>> must have had on Kremlin thinking?
>>
>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of
>> a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city,
>> the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.
>>
>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> >>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>
>>> >>>>Katyn
>>> >>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>
>>> >>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>> >>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>> >>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>> >>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>> >>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>> >>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>> >>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>> >>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>> >>>>during the Second World War.
>>
>>> >>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>> >>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>> >>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>> >>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>> >>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>> >>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>> >>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>> >>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>> >>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>
>>> >>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>> >>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>> >>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>> >>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>> >>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>
>>> >>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>> >>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>> >>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>> >>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>> >>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>> >>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>> >>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>
>>> >>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>> >>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>> >>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>> >>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>> >>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>> >>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>> >>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>> >>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>> >>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>> >>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>> >>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>> >>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>> >>>>of Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>> >>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>> >>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>> >>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>> >>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>> >>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>> >>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>> >>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>> >>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>> >>>>in 1940.
>>
>>> >>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>> >>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>> >>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>> >>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>> >>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>> >>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>> >>>>along the River Bug.
>>
>>> >>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>> >>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>> >>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>> >>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>> >>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>> >>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>> >>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>> >>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>> >>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>> >>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>> >>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>> >>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>> >>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>> >>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>> >>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>> >>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>> >>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>> >>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>> >>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>> >>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>> >>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>> >>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>> >>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>
>>> >>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>> >>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>> >>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>> >>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>> >>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>> >>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>> >>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>> >>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>> >>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>> >>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>> >>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>> >>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>> >>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>> >>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>> >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>> >>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>> >>>>Russia.
>>
>>> >>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>> >>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>> >>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>> >>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>> >>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>> >>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>> >>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>> >>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>> >>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>> >>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>> >>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>> >>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>> >>>>FBI.
>>
>>> >>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>> >>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>> >>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>> >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>> >>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>> >>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>> >>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>> >>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>> >>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>> >>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>> >>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>> >>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>> >>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>> >>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>> >>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>> >>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>> >>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>> >>>>of them did.
>>
>>> >>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>> >>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>> >>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>> >>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>> >>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>> >>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>> >>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>> >>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>> >>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>> >>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>> >>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>> >>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>
>>> >>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>> >>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>> >>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>> >>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>> >>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>> >>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>> >>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>> >>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>> >>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>> >>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>> >>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>> >>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>> >>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>> >>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>
>>> >>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>> >>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>> >>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>> >>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>> >>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>> >>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>> >>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>> >>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>> >>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>> >>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>> >>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>> >>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>> >>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>> >>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>> >>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>> >>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>> >>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>> >>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>> >>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>> >>>>killings.
>>
>>> >>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>> >>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>> >>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>> >>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>> >>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>> >>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>> >>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>> >>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>> >>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>> >>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>> >>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>> >>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>> >>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>> >>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>> >>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>> >>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>
>>> >>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>> >>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>> >>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>> >>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>> >>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>> >>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>> >>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>> >>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>> >>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>> >>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>> >>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>> >>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>> >>>>back to their governments.
>>
>>> >>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>> >>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>> >>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>> >>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>> >>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>> >>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>> >>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>
>>> >>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>> >>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>> >>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>> >>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>> >>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>> >>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>> >>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>> >>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>> >>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>> >>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>> >>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>> >>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>> >>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>
>>> >>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>> >>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>> >>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>> >>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>> >>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>> >>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>> >>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>> >>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>> >>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>> >>>>decided.
>>
>>> >>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>> >>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>> >>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>> >>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>> >>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>> >>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>> >>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>> >>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>> >>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>> >>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>> >>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>> >>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>> >>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>
>>> >>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>> >>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>> >>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>> >>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>> >>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>> >>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>> >>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>> >>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>> >>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>> >>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>> >>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>> >>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>> >>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>> >>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>> >>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>> >>>>feeling.
>>
>>> >>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn’t surprising. What is
>>> >>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>> >>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>> >>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>> >>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>> >>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>> >>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>> >>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>> >>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>> >>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>
>>> >>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>> >>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>> >>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>> >>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>
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>>> >>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
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>>
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>> (George Orwell)
>>
>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>>
>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>>
>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant
>>
>>
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>>
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>>
>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)
>>
>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>>
>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>>
>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant
>>
>>
>> Posted by:
>> Patrick Lee Humphrey
>> 7500 Bellerive #1807
>> Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>> 1-713-266-7764
>>
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576
>>
>> together with
>>
>> Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>
>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>>
>>
>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>
>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>
>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>
>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>
>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>
>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>> nights.
>>
>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473
>>
>> And also: George Firestone: “George”
>>
>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>
>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>
>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>>
>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]
>>
>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>
>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>
>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.
>>
>> Reply-To: “George”
>>
>> _________________________________________
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Subject: Re: Christian Girls Sold to ZYD Sex Slavery!! Repost
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don’t give a damn about girls of other
>confessions.
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>> wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest…….

>> >>From: Rameses
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700

>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>”Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel’s
>> >>thriving sex industry.

>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery”.

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don’t
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.

>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant

>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with

>> Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: “George”

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Subject: Re: Slavland for Slavs: My name is Piotr Glownia of clan Godziamba and I won’t colaborate with Aryans.
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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!

In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS – such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, “captain.” wrote:
>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>wrote in message news:[email protected]
>> In article , “captain.”
>> wrote:
>>>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]
>>>> In article , “captain.”
>>>>
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>”slavland for slavs” sounds like an amusement park.

>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.

>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way… Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.

>>>i don’t live in europe. but if i did i don’t think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.

>> LOL… Sl’owian’s’c’yzna is the Slavic word… It means “Slavic fortune”.
>> I’m sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia…

>slavic fortune and “slavland” are two different things . you claimed that
>”slavland” was a slavonic word. isn’t it time to admit that you may have
>made a mistake? 🙂

>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?

>hmmm, that’s a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other
>suitable “aryan” nation) and ask a few people. i’m sure that they would be
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.

>We won one war with Aryans… It doesn’t
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?

>sounds like you’re almost ready for some jihad action???

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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!

In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS – such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, “captain.” wrote:
>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>wrote in message news:[email protected]
>> In article , “captain.”
>> wrote:
>>>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]
>>>> In article , “captain.”
>>>>
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>”slavland for slavs” sounds like an amusement park.

>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.

>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way… Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.

>>>i don’t live in europe. but if i did i don’t think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.

>> LOL… Sl’owian’s’c’yzna is the Slavic word… It means “Slavic fortune”.
>> I’m sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia…

>slavic fortune and “slavland” are two different things . you claimed that
>”slavland” was a slavonic word. isn’t it time to admit that you may have
>made a mistake? 🙂

>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?

>hmmm, that’s a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other
>suitable “aryan” nation) and ask a few people. i’m sure that they would be
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.

>We won one war with Aryans… It doesn’t
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?

>sounds like you’re almost ready for some jihad action???

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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!

In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS – such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, “captain.” wrote:
>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>wrote in message news:[email protected]
>> In article , “captain.”
>> wrote:
>>>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]
>>>> In article , “captain.”
>>>>
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>”slavland for slavs” sounds like an amusement park.

>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.

>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way… Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.

>>>i don’t live in europe. but if i did i don’t think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.

>> LOL… Sl’owian’s’c’yzna is the Slavic word… It means “Slavic fortune”.
>> I’m sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia…

>slavic fortune and “slavland” are two different things . you claimed that
>”slavland” was a slavonic word. isn’t it time to admit that you may have
>made a mistake? 🙂

>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?

>hmmm, that’s a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other
>suitable “aryan” nation) and ask a few people. i’m sure that they would be
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.

>We won one war with Aryans… It doesn’t
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?

>sounds like you’re almost ready for some jihad action???

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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don’t give a damn about girls of other
>confessions.
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>> wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest…….

>> >>From: Rameses
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700

>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>”Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel’s
>> >>thriving sex industry.

>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery”.

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don’t
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.

>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant

>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with

>> Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: “George”

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On 11 May 2006 16:07:44 -0000, Ken Lewis wrote:

>Doesn’t the Constitution protect the freedom of the press, as well as freedom
>of expression?

>On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:29:50 GMT, “Constitutional Rights”
>wrote:

>>It is illegal to post anyone’s personal information on a newsgroup.

>Under what statute?

>JEFFREY G. BROWN
>8357 SUMMITRIDGE
>CINCINNATI OH 45255
>[email protected]
>Tel: 513-474-1953
>Fax: 513-474-9678

>Name BROWN,JEFFREY G
>Driver License Number RJ339222
>Address 8357 SUMMITRIDGE
>City/State/Zip CINCINNATI OH 45255
>Sex Homo
>Dob Mar 13 1955
>Height 604
>Weight 245
>Eyes BLU
>Hair BRO

>SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER 282-58-6925

>BANK ACCOUNTS AND ACCOUNT NUMBERS
>PNG BANK NATIONAL 4006-470-124 $1863.99
> 4001-914-361 31.63
> 4000-80-236 1363.58
>PUTNAM INVESTMENTS 26320.33

>EMPLOYER
>SIEMENS INTERNATIONAL
>4620 FOREST AVENUE
>CINCINNATI, OHIO 45237

>It seems that the Christkiller ZHIDS do not like having done to them, what
>they have consistently done to their critics, to the point where their critics
>mysteriously get fire-bombed!!

>On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:00:11 +0000, Leo Fellmann wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:29:50 GMT, “Constitutional Rights”
>>> wrote:

>>>>It is illegal to post anyone’s personal information on a newsgroup.

>>> Under what statute?

>>The world is not the USA. In many, many countries posting personal
>>information such as he did without consent would be illegal under data
>>protection laws.

>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant

>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant

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Subject: Re: Slavland for Slavs: My name is Piotr Glownia of clan Godziamba and I won’t colaborate with Aryans.
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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!

In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS – such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, “captain.” wrote:
>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>wrote in message news:[email protected]
>> In article , “captain.”
>> wrote:
>>>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]
>>>> In article , “captain.”
>>>>
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>”slavland for slavs” sounds like an amusement park.

>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.

>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way… Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.

>>>i don’t live in europe. but if i did i don’t think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.

>> LOL… Sl’owian’s’c’yzna is the Slavic word… It means “Slavic fortune”.
>> I’m sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia…

>slavic fortune and “slavland” are two different things . you claimed that
>”slavland” was a slavonic word. isn’t it time to admit that you may have
>made a mistake? 🙂

>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?

>hmmm, that’s a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other
>suitable “aryan” nation) and ask a few people. i’m sure that they would be
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.

>We won one war with Aryans… It doesn’t
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?

>sounds like you’re almost ready for some jihad action???

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PRAVDA!!

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:23:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

>Worth reposting, so people know how perfidous are the Christkiller
>ZHIDS!!
>
>On 24 Sep 2004 08:12:45 -0700, [email protected]
>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>
>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest…….
>>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought
>>it should be reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the
>>>so-called “Russian Revolution” of 1917 is that
>>>Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews,
>>>and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn
>>>anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these facts,
>>>it remains undeniable that communism was both a
>>>Jewish created and led revolutionary movement.
>>
>>>First, it is a well known fact that the father
>>>of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended
>>>from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant
>>>importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively
>>>by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today
>>>would probably identify themselves as atheists,
>>>but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in
>>>communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish,
>>>let’s see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection
>>>as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed
>>>between American representatives in Russia and
>>>Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik
>>>take-over of Russia.
>>
>>>The following quotes are taken directly from documents
>>>available from the U.S.Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918
>>>by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers:
>>>”Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from
>>>Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell:
>>>”Fifty percent of Soviet government
>>>in each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary
>>>Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram
>>>from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.Montgomey Shuyler:
>>>”It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has
>>>been since it’s beginning guided and controlled by
>>>Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from
>>>Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding
>>>Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384`commissars’
>>>including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS.
>>>Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from
>>>the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov),
>>>most of the leading Communists who took control of
>>>Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet
>>>general, who had access to the KGB archives, that
>>>Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!)
>>
>>>Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and,
>>>for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs.
>>
>>>Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s
>>>executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government.
>>
>>>Grigori Zinoviev(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist
>>>International (Comintern), the central agency for
>>>spreading revolution in foreign countries.
>>
>>>Other prominent Jews included press commissar
>>>Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar
>>>Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>>>and Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia,
>>>warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington:
>>>”The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews
>>>and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles,
>>>care little for Russia or any other country but are
>>>internationalists and they are trying to start a
>>>worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke,
>>>confirmed this: “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the
>>>bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form
>>>or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality,
>>>and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends
>>>the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes
>>>out-of-context, here’s three paragraphs from
>>>Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the
>>>Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on
>>>the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed
>>>in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having
>>>come over from the lower east side of New York. Some
>>>of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very
>>>much pleased that there was somebody who could speak
>>>English, and their broken English showed that they had
>>>not qualified as being Americans. A number of these men
>>>called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish
>>>element in this thing right from the beginning, and it
>>>soon became evident that more than half the agitators
>>>in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews…I have
>>>a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>>>one of its bases is found in the east side of New York…
>>>The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>>with good authority, startling information, is this,
>>>that in December, 1918, in the northern community of
>>>Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>>>Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16
>>>happened to be real Russians, with the exception of
>>>one man, a Negro from America who calls himself
>>>Professor Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly
>>>after the great revolution of the winter of 1917,
>>>there were scores of Jews standing on the benches
>>>and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed,
>>>and I often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are
>>>we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.’
>>>Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having
>>>Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they
>>>swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came
>>>into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a
>>>predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters
>>>and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident
>>>that now that was to be one of the great languages
>>>of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding
>>>sources are “anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable,
>>>but they’d be wrong. Here’s a few Jewish sources that
>>>essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of
>>>Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish
>>>planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the
>>>world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish
>>>dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also,
>>>through the same Jewish mental and physical forces,
>>>become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in
>>>the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals
>>>of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest
>>>ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>>April, 4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American
>>>Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership
>>>of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
>>>comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population.”
>>>(Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks
>>>was to make so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime.
>>>This is confirmed by Stalin (Jozef Djugashvili –
>>>believed to be part zhid) himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the
>>>misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of
>>>cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of
>>>racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are
>>>liable to the death penalty.”
>>>(Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being
>>>destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs,
>>>synagogues and rabbis were left virtually untouched.
>>
>>
>>ZHIDS = CHEKA/NKVD MURDERERS
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars
>>>(many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of
>>>terror against the non-Jewish Russian population.
>>
>>>In one case alone, they deliberately starved to
>>>death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s
>>>in one of the most vile campaigns in history:
>>>In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports
>>>W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million
>>>persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in
>>>Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even
>>>more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Roger Hughes
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>It seems that the foul zhids only want to be parasites in society,
>>such as lawyers(pronounced liars), and corrupt politicians.
>>
>>For more than 2000 years, people worldwide have suffered from
>>these parasites, in every society where they have resided.
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

Reply-To: “George” ,

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PRAVDA!!

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:23:35 -0700, Ernst Zundholz
wrote:

>Worth reposting, so people know how perfidous are the Christkiller
>ZHIDS!!
>
>On 24 Sep 2004 08:12:45 -0700, [email protected]
>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>
>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>>also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
>>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest…….
>>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought
>>it should be reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the
>>>so-called “Russian Revolution” of 1917 is that
>>>Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews,
>>>and those sympathetic to them, continue to condemn
>>>anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these facts,
>>>it remains undeniable that communism was both a
>>>Jewish created and led revolutionary movement.
>>
>>>First, it is a well known fact that the father
>>>of communism, Karl Marx, was a Jew and descended
>>>from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant
>>>importance, since Jewishness is not defined exclusively
>>>by adherance to Judaism. A great bulk of Jews today
>>>would probably identify themselves as atheists,
>>>but also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in
>>>communism, will concede that Marx was indeed Jewish,
>>>let’s see the them deny the communist-Jewish connection
>>>as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that passed
>>>between American representatives in Russia and
>>>Washington D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik
>>>take-over of Russia.
>>
>>>The following quotes are taken directly from documents
>>>available from the U.S.Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918
>>>by U.S. consul general in Moscow, Summers:
>>>”Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from
>>>Vladivostok on July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell:
>>>”Fifty percent of Soviet government
>>>in each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary
>>>Forces, Siberia on March 1, 1919, comes this telegram
>>>from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.Montgomey Shuyler:
>>>”It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has
>>>been since it’s beginning guided and controlled by
>>>Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from
>>>Vladivostok, reports on the make-up of the presiding
>>>Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384`commissars’
>>>including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS.
>>>Of the latter number, 264 had come to Russia from
>>>the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov),
>>>most of the leading Communists who took control of
>>>Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet
>>>general, who had access to the KGB archives, that
>>>Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!)
>>
>>>Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and,
>>>for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs.
>>
>>>Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party’s
>>>executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government.
>>
>>>Grigori Zinoviev(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist
>>>International (Comintern), the central agency for
>>>spreading revolution in foreign countries.
>>
>>>Other prominent Jews included press commissar
>>>Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar
>>>Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>>>and Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia,
>>>warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington:
>>>”The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews
>>>and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles,
>>>care little for Russia or any other country but are
>>>internationalists and they are trying to start a
>>>worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke,
>>>confirmed this: “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the
>>>bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form
>>>or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality,
>>>and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends
>>>the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes
>>>out-of-context, here’s three paragraphs from
>>>Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the
>>>Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on
>>>the Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed
>>>in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having
>>>come over from the lower east side of New York. Some
>>>of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very
>>>much pleased that there was somebody who could speak
>>>English, and their broken English showed that they had
>>>not qualified as being Americans. A number of these men
>>>called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish
>>>element in this thing right from the beginning, and it
>>>soon became evident that more than half the agitators
>>>in the socalled Bolshevik movement were Jews…I have
>>>a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>>>one of its bases is found in the east side of New York…
>>>The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>>with good authority, startling information, is this,
>>>that in December, 1918, in the northern community of
>>>Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>>>Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16
>>>happened to be real Russians, with the exception of
>>>one man, a Negro from America who calls himself
>>>Professor Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly
>>>after the great revolution of the winter of 1917,
>>>there were scores of Jews standing on the benches
>>>and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed,
>>>and I often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are
>>>we coming to anyway. This all looks so Yiddish.’
>>>Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having
>>>Jews in Petrograd, but after the revolution they
>>>swarmed in there and most of the agitators were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came
>>>into power all over Petrograd, we at once had a
>>>predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big posters
>>>and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident
>>>that now that was to be one of the great languages
>>>of Russia; and the real Russians did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding
>>>sources are “anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable,
>>>but they’d be wrong. Here’s a few Jewish sources that
>>>essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of
>>>Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish
>>>planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the
>>>world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish
>>>dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also,
>>>through the same Jewish mental and physical forces,
>>>become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in
>>>the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals
>>>of Bolshevism are consonant with many of the highest
>>>ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>>April, 4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American
>>>Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership
>>>of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
>>>comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population.”
>>>(Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks
>>>was to make so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime.
>>>This is confirmed by Stalin (Jozef Djugashvili –
>>>believed to be part zhid) himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the
>>>misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of
>>>cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of
>>>racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are
>>>liable to the death penalty.”
>>>(Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being
>>>destroyed and clergymen murdered by Communist gangs,
>>>synagogues and rabbis were left virtually untouched.
>>
>>
>>ZHIDS = CHEKA/NKVD MURDERERS
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars
>>>(many of them Jews) conducted a horrendous reign of
>>>terror against the non-Jewish Russian population.
>>
>>>In one case alone, they deliberately starved to
>>>death 20 million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s
>>>in one of the most vile campaigns in history:
>>>In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports
>>>W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million
>>>persons were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in
>>>Russia, many of them directly at the hands of Jews, and even
>>>more at the order of Jewish Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Roger Hughes
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>It seems that the foul zhids only want to be parasites in society,
>>such as lawyers(pronounced liars), and corrupt politicians.
>>
>>For more than 2000 years, people worldwide have suffered from
>>these parasites, in every society where they have resided.
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!

“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)

David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’

“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant

“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Boris Dynin = NAMBLA executive &
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.