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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: Mother Of Seven Arrested Without Warning For Showing Abortion Image
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On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:08:06 -0400, IAAH
>On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:47:40 -0500, “Peter D”
>message
>
>>What’s most disturbing about this is that it places a chilling stranglehold
>>on the right of expression and speech. Yes, the image is offensive, but so
>>what? DON’T LOOK!
>>
>>I hope a formal compaint is filed before the Human Rights Tribunal and the
>>Police are forced to drop all charges. I’m disgusted that such a
>>non-aggressive act of protest was subjected to such harrassment in my
>>country.
>
>D’you know, I find it very ‘odd’ that only anti-abortion sites have
>this story, and it’s ALL the same verbatim text.
In Canada, the ZYD-controlled media do not want to publicise the fact that
their fellow ZYD MORGENTHALER makes so many millions of dollars, killing
babies!!
After all, Len Asper doesn’t want to have these people picketing in front of
HIS house?
>>>>Mother of Seven Arrested Without Warning for Showing Abortion Image
>>>
>>>>LifeSiteNews ^ | 27 September 2006
>>>>
>>>>Posted on 09/26/2006 10:54:14 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
>>>>
>>>>FREDERICTON, New Brunswick, Sept. 27, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A
>>>>pro-life woman was arrested Tuesday for holding an image of an aborted
>>>>child outside an abortion facility in Fredericton, New Brunswick.
>>>>
>>>>Suzie Ryan, mother of seven, was silently holding the image outside the
>>>>Morgentaler centre as abortions were being performed inside. Mrs. Ryan
>>>>was charged with violating s.163 of the Criminal Code. S.163 is about
>>>>the display of obscene material. She was released after being held in a
>>>>jail cell for several hours. She must face the charges in court in
>>>>November.
>>>>
>>>>Prior to her arrest Mrs. Ryan was not warned in any way that she was
>>>>committing an illegal act. Six to eight police officers arrived and
>>>>forcibly put her in a paddy wagon, while confiscating her sign and
>>>>umbrella.
>>>>
>>>>Police Staff Sergeant Kelly later explained to Mrs. Ryan’s husband,
>>>>Campaign Life Coalition New Brunswick (CLCNB) president Peter Ryan,
>>>>that the police were acting following instructions from the Crown
>>>>Prosecutor office and some 35 complaints about the display of abortion
>>>>images. Mr. Ryan believes the abortuary staff must have put in one or
>>>>more complaints this morning.
>>>>
>>>>CLCNB is not aware of any other case in Canada where a pro-life citizen
>>>>was arrested without prior warning for simply displaying an abortion
>>>>image in a public place. Such images have been repeatedly displayed by
>>>>such groups as Show the Truth which has won precedent-setting cases in
>>>>which it also was charged for showing graphic abortion pictures. That
>>>>group visited Fredericton twice this past summer. At the time
>>>>Fredericton Mayor Brad Woodside expressed displeasure with the group’s
>>>>tactics, but said there was nothing the city could legally do to
>>>>prevent such displays.
>>>>
>>>>The Morgentaler abortion facility has no legal restrictions against
>>>>protest in the surrounding public area. Pro-life supporters regularly
>>>>are present on Tuesday mornings when abortions usually take place.
>>>>
>>>>Mrs. Ryan says she is quite shaken by the incident.
>>>>
>>>>Peter Ryan says it is incredible when someone can be accused of a crime
>>>>for peacefully protesting the murder of innocent children. “Here’s the
>>>>analogy,” he said. “The Nazi death camps are exterminating Jews.
>>>>Outside someone protests with an image of the Holocaust. The camp staff
>>>>complains to police. The person is arrested as a criminal. The
>>>>slaughter goes on. That’s where we now are in this country.
>>>
>>
>>
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From: panPiotrGlownia
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Sorry, retard, but you sure are a piece of infected filth.
Any website is prepared by some other of your multitudinous enemies,
just to warn people around the world of the cesspool in which you reside.
It seems that you keep getting removed from ISPs constantly, once they get
contacted by the authorities.
Guess they do not want to be used by such a pervert as you?
On 27 Aug 2006 09:11:10 -0700, “Vroom”
>The Crossposting Moron who goes by:
>James DEx-Spouse / Dale Norton / Doc Holoiday / Jules Striker /
>VicArcurious / DrFaustus / gel / trauth / WayattEarp / NotMyName / John
>Buchan / Asterix / and a few others, made up his own friends because
>he has none of his own, and posted the same old useless crap again.
>He posts distortions of the news that are months old.
The news is well documernted by the media, and is TRUE.
>This dimwit even formed his own news group called “Edmonton …the
>crppiest city to visit”.
>He couldn’t even spell the groups name right !!!!!!!!
>The best part is, the group got closed down because NO ONE posted to
>it.
>It just goes to show you that NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.!!!!!
>Then Top Poster will come in with one of his famous one liners. This
>idiot is incapable of constructing more than one sentence at a time.
>
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: Taliban Claims Ten Canadian Soldiers Killed Today- ORDER LOTS MORE BODY BAGS!! Repost
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:06:14 -0400, Al-Minbar
>Suicide attack in crowd of children in Afghanistan
>09-18-2006, 09h23
>KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AFP)
>http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=142633
>A suicide bomber blew himself up in a crowd of children in southern
>Afghanistan, causing multiple casualties, as NATO troops handed them
>gift items, officials have said.
>”A suicide attacker detonated explosives strapped to his body in a crowd
>of children where the troops were distributing pens and notebooks to
>kids,” a district police official told AFP on condition of anonymity Monday.
>He said 24 children were wounded, four of them in a critical condition,
>while officials said NATO peacekeepers were also injured.
>NATO’s International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) confirmed a bomb
>had exploded near a patrol in the city of Kandahar, causing “multiple
>casualties”.
>”Local civilians also suffered injuries from the blast,” it said in a
>statement. “The ISAF soldiers were evacuated to military medical
>facilities for treatment.”
>It would not release the nationalities of the troops involved.
>Police said the soldiers were Canadians, but this could not be
>immediately confirmed by the Canadian military which has 2,300 soldiers
>in Kandahar.
>”It was a suicide attack,” interior ministry spokesman Zemaray Bashari
>said in Kabul, also identifying the patrol as Canadian. “It inflicted
>both civilian and military casualties.”
>The attack was outside Kandahar city in an area where ISAF Sunday
>declared that a major offensive to drive out Taliban fighters had succeeded.
>The Taliban claimed responsibility for the bombing and said that 10
>Canadian soldiers had died. The fundamentalist group frequently gives
>exaggerated death tolls for its attacks.
>”Today at around 10:00 am a resident of Kandahar named Qudratullah
>detonated explosives strapped to his body targeting a Canadian foot
>patrol, which killed ten Canadian solidiers,” purported Taliban
>spokesman Yousuf Ahmadi said.
Subject: ORDER LOTS MORE BODY BAGS – For Victims of Zionazis
Have the stupid yanks, Canoodleheads, and Ozzies and Brits stocked
enough body bags for all the victims of the zionazis?
Tonight’s news reports that an admitted 29 Canadians have so far been killed
in
Afghanistan, for the US & Israel.
Apart from hundreds wounded, some of whom did, or will die, outside
Afghanistan!!
Each week lately there are more and more stupid Canucks being used as target
practice in Afghanistan and Iraq, to help the Israeli zionazis and US
imperialists.
NOT for the interests of normal Canadians!
Not just those who will be killed in Iraq, and Afghanistan, but all those
others
who will get killed by those supporting anti-Americanism, worldwide?
And, don’t forget all those being killed by the YANKS!!
Friendly fire indeed.
Ask the stupid Canuck victims of “friendly fire”,
or the latest Brit victims, or the Russian diplomats….
Media are now claiming MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS of allied soldiers
killed and wounded, many more than censored military are claiming!!
People all over the world are finally understanding that Dubya
is just a puppet for the damned ZHID CHRISTKILLERS in Israel,
and their minions running the USA, Canada, Britain and even
Australia.
The Bronfmans, Reichmanns, Rapaports, Fleischers and their
ilk do not care how many Christians they get killed,
as long as they make money from killing non-zionists!!
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: FIRE Lowry!! Make Lowry PAY!! EPCOR Screws Up – Penalized $450,000!!
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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!
Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!
Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammaer, deserves to get swindled.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>
>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!
>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?
>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?
>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Statistics Canada Admits-Edmonton Is Crime Center of Canada!
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In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
of Canada!
The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!
And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
notorious Edmonton serial killer of female prostitiutes!
And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
judge or criminologist.
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Subject: Re: SEVEN MORE dead Canadian soldiers in one week.- Order Lots More Body Bags! – Repost
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Not only do the stupid canucks have to worry about getting killed by the
enemy, now they also have to worry about their so-called “FRIENDS”, the
doped-up yanks, killing them by FRIENDLY FIRE”!! AGAIN!!
On 11 Aug 2006 19:53:42 -0700, “Jonsa”
>WyattEarp wrote:
>> Almost 30 dead Canucks admitted so far, apart from hundreds admitted
>> injured – all for USA & Israel!!
>> How many will it take to bring all the rest of the surviving Canadians
>> home?
>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:04:08 -0700, Brian Daily
>>
>> >It’s time to bring the troops home….
>> >http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/world/asia/11cnd-afghan.html?hp&ex=1155355200&en=2dfe995e2495db37&ei=5094&partner=homepage
>What a crock.
>The Canadian soldiers are not there for either USA or Israel. They are
>on behalf of CANADA. we beleive in freedom and liberty. we believe
>that Islamo-facists are our enemies. we beleive that Afghanis should be
>able to live in security and peace with justice, equality and liberty.
>we believe that Afghanistan can at least rise to the 20th century. We
>beleive that terrorists are scum and cannot be appeased.
>We are not neutral in the war against Islamo-facists. And we certainly
>take sides when the concepts of democracy and liberty are trashed by
>hate spewing, religiously perverse scumbags.
Canada has no legal status to be in Afghanistan.
Canada is not at war against Afghanistan.
Canada is only there in support of the USA & Israel, who started the war,
so that is why stupid canucks die there!!
Make sure there are enough body bags for the many more to die there –
for the USA & Israel!!
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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.
The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS – such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!
Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, “amigo cabal”
>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler
>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews,
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did
>hold – including army and air force generals.
>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society,
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from
>outside observers.
>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan
>Mark Rigg in his book “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military” (University
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers,
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.
>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations
>of being “true Germans”, many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).
>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis’ racial
>laws.
>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight’s Cross
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as an Aryan, even
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch’s right, General Wolfram von
>Richthofen.
>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.
>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort;
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens’s first
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.
>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the
>Knight’s Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right:
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.
>”KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS”
>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg’s book:
>
>”The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of
>the Nazi years.” – John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second
>World War, (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)
>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be
>”shocked” by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.
>The phrase “knowing the Nazi regime for what it was” above by Keegan, is
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be
>granted full Aryan status – especially given that there were only
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.
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On 26 Apr 2006 09:18:07 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>Taken from:
>
>www.NotCanada.com
>
>TOP 8 REASONS NOT TO IMMIGRATE TO CANADA
>
> 8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
>Immigration to Canada is based on a point system, obtained with your
>education, qualifications and job experience. Points are good enough
>for immigration, but in Canada, they are not good enough to get a job
>in your field. Amazing, how the credentials that qualify you to come to
>Canada are the same credentials that don’t qualify you for your
>profession in Canada. The reason is, Canada only wants immigrants to do
>the labor jobs – pizza delivery, driving taxis, factory work etc.
Actually, most of the professions DO NOT WANT COMPETITION, INCLUDING
LOWER PRICES, FROM QUALIFIED IMMIGRANTS!
That is why most professional groups in Canada will refuse to recognise the
credentials of professional groups outside Canada!!
> 7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.
>>From rent, to utility bills, to shopping, to phone, internet and cable
>bills, to gas, to car insurance, to eating out, to basically anything
>you have to pay for or buy, the cost of living in Canada has become
>astronomical. Recent immigrants are astonished as to how expensive
>everything is. It is estimated that compared to most countries around
>the world, the cost of living in Canada is on average five times
>greater.
> 6. Health Care Crisis.
>Practicing physicians in Canada are in a shortage, 1 in 4 Canadians
>cannot get a family doctor. Canadian doctors are leaving to move
>permanently to the United States. Statistics Canada and the Canadian
>Medical Association both have identified that for every 1 American
>doctor that moves to Canada, 19 (nineteen) Canadian doctors move to the
>United States! Doctors in Canada are overworked and underpaid, and
>there is a cap on their salaries.
> 5. Very High Taxes.
>Yes, you have the GST, the PST, totaling 15%, on practically everything
>you purchase and many other taxes taken out of our weekly paycheck. You
>have to pay a whopping amount to the government, out of your hard
>earned salary, so that the government can turn around and give it to
>beer drinking, hockey watching welfare bums. Fair? It does not matter,
>it’s Canada.
> 4. Money Hungry Government.
>Canadian Embassies around the world lie to foreigners, painting this
>picture that Canada is Utopia, because they want them to come to
>Canada. Why? Because foreigners bring money! So after being deceived,
>these foreigners come. They must bring with them at least $10,000.
>Canada has an immigration quota of 250,000 per year. So please do the
>math, 250,000 multiplied by $10,000 each equals a whopping 2.5 Billion
>dollars that Canada gains from immigrants every year.
> 3. No Culture.
>Unlike almost every other country in the world, Canada has no culture.
>Actually American culture is what dominates Canada. When was the last
>time you had some ‘Canadian’ food? There are no Canadian traditions and
>there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself
>a ‘Canadian’. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still
>identify themselves with the country they ‘originally’ came from.
Canada does support with huge amounts of taxpayer cash, all the gangsters and
thugs involved in commercial sports, though!
> 2. Worst Weather.
>Yes, Canada has the worst weather conditions of any country in the
>world. Freezing cold temperatures, snow, ice, hail, winds, storms etc.
>>From the Prairie provinces to the Maritimes, from the Territories to
>southern Ontario, the weather is so horrific and disgusting that many
>Canadians leave Canada simply because of this reason alone.
> 1. No Jobs.
>Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified
>(MD’s, PhD’s, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs,
>delivering pizza’s or working in factories. Even people with bachelors
>degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation.
>This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry
>for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their
>lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future.
>
>Taken from:
>
>www.NotCanada.com
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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:55:13 -0400, Alan Bowler
>> “Brian”
>
>>> Well for one thing, the Canadian taxes are a lot higher. The U.S.
>>> doesn’t have a VAT type tax.
>
>It is true that the US does not have a VAT tax. However,
>the hotel taxes I get dinged for (on top of the advertised
>room rate) when I visit the is higher than the GST. There is
>no rebate on that either.
Are you forgetting the extra HOTEL TAXES in B.c. and Alberta,
besides the GST+PST?
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, “Sharx35”
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.
No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer’s house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR,
FOR 8 YEARS!!
One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?
>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing, March 27.
>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed for his property at 13723 –
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.
>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?
It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year – for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!
>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!
>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!
>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!
>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?
>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!
>> From: [email protected] the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700
>> Why do you call our beuatiful city “deadmonton”, ?
>> if you don’t like it here why are you doing here? why don’t you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you’re
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>
>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!
>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do – FILE AN APPEAL!!
>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!
>>> Checking the website for this year’s assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!
>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!
>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?
>>> From: [email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700
>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.
>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!
>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.
>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?
>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!
>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?
>>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!
>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!
>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.
>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.
>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!
>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did…..
>>>>>> starwars
>>>>>> news:
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!
>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 – still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?
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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED,
compared to all the financing registered on the property?
Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?
Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator
wrote:
Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006
>Can’t get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.
>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 – 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!
>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!
>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous “snitch line” to save the
>City many millions.
>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?
>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!
>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!
>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS
>wrote:
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: “Brian Boulanger”
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f…@bouncemail.ca – Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, “Brian Boulanger” wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands….
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: Edmonton Council OVERPAID!! Cut Their Pay!! or better yet, FIRE them!
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks
>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.
>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.
>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.
>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!
>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year – PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!
>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB – Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities,
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.
>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor – care to comment?
>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree.
You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.
You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.
Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!
No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: FIRE Lowry!! Make Lowry PAY!! EPCOR Screws Up – Penalized $450,000!!
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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!
Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!
Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammaer, deserves to get swindled.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>
>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!
>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?
>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?
>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: Another Crooked Edmonton Cop!! No End to Them
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 03:44:46 GMT, John Fleming
>On 12 Sep 2006 13:10:01 -0700, while chained to a desk in the
>scriptorium, “TopPoster”
>> $Mickey Boyd wrote:
>> $
>> $> Now, nearly 3 years after he was found to be a real criminal, the
>> $> Crown Prosecutor is staying all the criminal charges, so that this
>> $> crooked cop gets off!!
>> $
>> $That’s because he’s NOT GUILTY.
>Note the inconsistency in Mickey Boyd’s statment. If he was “found to
>be a real criminal”, there was a conviction on at least one charge, and
>it’s a bit hard to stay a charge after the process has gone through the
>courts and a judge has handed down a verdict.
Charges can be stayed, even while the case is in the courts, which happens
somewhat frequently in Canada.
But the fact that the Crown chose to stay all these nefarious charges, after 3
years, just bgecause it was a crooked cop, smells to high heaven!!
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: Richard Warman lawsuit an indicator of what’s hot on the net – Support Freedom of Speech!
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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.
In the meantime, the US-based website for the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.
On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, “Toto the Dog”
>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name “Dossier Noir”; “Dosier Noir” Opens
>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff
>Ottawa, Canada — The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name “Dossier Noir”, causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account “Dosier Noir”.
>”They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,”
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, “There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so.”
>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:
>”Good always looks evil to evil.”
>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for “regime change” in Iraq or
>North Korea:
>”If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border.”
>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled “slaughter of Zion”.
>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.
>”When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government,” White says, “They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.
>”I mean, what does Warman think? That we’re just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate — execution at the hands of a people’s
>government.”
>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media — directly
>owning almost all of it — and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada’s white population.
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Subject: Re: Racist Jew hatemonger spammer “Gary Rumain” – IP: 210.211.117.172 posts anti-Muslim hate profanity daily- Call/Visit Him
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Arash, the word is hatemonger, not hatemongerer.
Or, did you mean hatemongrel, being a dog?
>On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, “Mike”
>>”Firnando”
>>news:[email protected]…
>>> Arash wrote:
>>>> This individual using the fake name of “Gary Rumain” (IP:
>>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He
>>>> also uses the name “I Hate muzzies”, “All muzzies are dirty, filthy,
>>>> stinking pigs”.
>Subject: GARY RUMAIN’S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER – Call/Visit Him
>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT,
>[email protected] wrote:
>>On 3-Dec-2005, “Ted”
>>> The Re’evd wrote:
>>> > Suzy “convert” Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>>> > She *insists* that people are only posting “Alex’s” business address!
>>> OK, whatever.
>>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>>calls himself “Rev” etc.
>>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>>that nmade everyone post Seredin’s – but I wish they had
>>posted the phony rev’s – all we have so far
>>is Gordon Radavich
>AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD
>AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY
>GARY A RUMAIN Born 1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>SUSAN E COHEN Born Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>[email protected] (Gary Rumain)
>You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
>successfully outed so live with it.
>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%[email protected]>
>[email protected] wrote:
>>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.
>I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out
>and it is all true.
>>http://www.zabasearch.com/
>Using the above search I found the following also.
>>GARY A RUMAIN Born 1964
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>
>>SUSAN E COHEN Born Nov 1962
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>
>http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
>A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
>
>Gary Rumain
>8112 Grove St
>Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
>Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
>http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
>The above long link as a TinyURL:
>http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
>
>They even show a map of how to get to your house.
>Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?
>
>You made the post below did you not?
>You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
>(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>
>>[email protected] (Gary Rumain)
>>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: “Harem Scare ‘Em?” Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>>1997/10/05
>><[email protected]>
>
>>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve
>>: In article <60[email protected]>, [email protected] (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>
>>: Okay, you’ve managed to confuse me now, too. You post under the name
>>: “Gary Rumain” and sign your postings “Susan Cohen.” Is this an instance
>>: of someone “hiding his/her identity” as well?
>
>>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>>my name? We haven’t been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>>as well as my husband’s. However, I was under the impression that this was
>>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>
>>And, the “anonymity” to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>>genuine, the original poster’s was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>>me at ze[email protected] any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>
>>Susan Cohen
>
>
>SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>
>>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>>until THEY posted about them – such idiots! -) are centered
>>in the US.
>
>>Susan
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael’s detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: “George”
>
>or to [email protected], or [email protected]
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
>like.
>
>~~
>
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Alan, what is latest status of this matter?
Are snivel servants still ripping off taxpapyers, or will truckers now be
allowed same as crooked trough-feeders?
On 18 Mar 2005 12:16:44 -0800, [email protected] (Alan Baggett) wrote:
>Here’s the latest from:
>http://pei.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=pe-truck20050318
>Truckers fight for better meal deductions
>Last Updated Mar 18 2005 11:24 AM AST
>CBC News
>CHARLOTTETOWN – Some P.E.I. truckers have joined a class action
>lawsuit against the Canada Revenue Agency. They want to be able to
>claim more money for meals while they’re on the road.
>Summerside’s Chris Murphy spends two weeks at a time rolling across
>North America in his truck, paying for three meals a day in roadside
>restaurants.
>
>He said when government employees are traveling they are paid up to
>$75 a day as compensation for their meals and related expenses.
>
>However, truckers are allowed to claim a maximum of $23 a day as a
>business expense. Murphy believes the numbers should be the same.
>
>The court case was filed in British Columbia Supreme Court in 2002.
>
>Ernie Slump, the publisher of Trucker Magazine launched the suit.
>Since then, he has added the names of 3,000 truckers to the case.
>
>He believes the federal government is trying to delay the case.
>
>”We thought we might go to court in April or May, but we think now
>that the government may drag it out further until after the next
>election because this could very well become an election issue.”
>
>Murphy said he just wants the same provisions as other people who have
>to leave home for work.
>
>The federal Department of Finance won’t say if deductions for meals on
>the road might be raised.
>
>
>
>canada[email protected] (Alan Baggett) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>…
>> http://www.todaystrucking.com/displayarticle.cfm?ID=3824
>>
>> Law firm files meal allowance suit
>>
>> SUMMERLAND, B.C. (Mar. 7, 2005) — B.C. law firm Johnston, Johnson &
>> Co. has filed a class-action suit on behalf of 11 truck drivers
>> seeking to overturn the unfair meal allowance portion of the federal
>> tax policy.
>> The Summerland, B.C.-based lawyers are asking the Supreme Court of
>> British Columbia to strike down a section of the Income Tax Act
>> dealing with the deduction of their meals while they are on the road.
>>
>> “Essentially, we looked at whether truckers, bus drivers, and other
>> workers that travel for a living could unite in one cause to get
>> parity with government workers,” says Tom Johnston, lead counsel on
>> the case in a statement that appears on the firm’s website.
>> “Government employees receive a meal allowance of $73.10 [an amount
>> that fluctuates on a quarterly basis according to the Consumer Price
>> Index] per day plus U.S. exchange (if they were traveling in the US),
>> without receipts.”
>>
>> In the Statement of Claim, it is asserted by the plaintiffs (the
>> truckers) that CCRA [formerly Revenue Canada] “through [its]
>> administrative policies, have ruled that some of the Plaintiffs and
>> some of the Class are not entitled to a meal allowance greater than
>> $16.50 before 2003, and, $22.50 after 2003, while other taxpayers
>> received more money for meals, including allowing some, the fair meal
>> allowance rate.”
>>
>> Further, the Plaintiffs claim that the decision to allow some
>> individuals to claim a greater amount than others is unfair and
>> discriminatory, and without adequate reason.
>>
>> Johnston says he hopes for truckers to gain parity with federal civil
>> servants covered by the Treasury Board Secretariat Travel Directive.
>> “We’re also seeking to strike down the 50 percent aspect of the rule,”
>> he says. “That applies to business meals, and in the case of our
>> clients, that’s clearly not the case.
>>
>> “In the civil servants’ case, he or she is consuming meals for
>> sustenance, as are truck drivers. Allowing one group a more generous
>> allowance than others isn’t fair. It’s clearly a discriminatory
>> practice, and the Canadian Charter of Rights makes no room for
>> distinction between one class of citizens and another.”
>>
>> Drivers wishing to join the class action may still do so by contacting
>> Johnston & Johnson at their B.C. offices, or by visiting the website.
>> If the lawsuit is successful, only those registered and paid-up of the
>> class action may be able to claim retroactive meal allowances, the
>> firm says.
>>
>> There is a $200 fee to join the class action. Those already in the
>> class action will need to pay an additional $100.00 to remain in the
>> lawsuit. For more information, see www.summerlandlawoffice.com or
>> call, 800-494-0442.
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Did he originate the true saying, that faggots are good only for incineration?
On 29 Sep 2006 18:39:34 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Brit anti-Gay Bigot Escapes Prosecution for Hate Literature
>
>Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn’t Fit
>
>The Independent – Sep 29, 2006
>http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article1771850.ece
>
>Christian Voice director escapes prosecution over anti-gay literature
>
>By Terry Kirby, Chief Reporter
>
>For some, he is a much-needed voice against an increasingly Godless
>society, representing the views of a significant but largely silent
>section of the population.
>
>But for a great many others, Stephen Green, the director of Christian
>Voice, is a solitary individual, unrepresentative of wider opinion and
>only given prominence by the willingness of the media to offer him a
>platform.
>
>Yesterday, Mr Green was in the public eye once again, after the Crown
>Prosecution Service decided not to prosecute him for breaching public
>order at a gay festival in Cardiff this month, when he handed out
>leaflets quoting the Bible as saying same-sex sex was a sin.
>
>Charges against Mr Green, 54, who lives in Carmarthenshire, of using
>threatening behaviour or insulting words, or behaviour likely to cause
>harassment, alarm or distress, were dropped at a pre-trial hearing in
>Cardiff because of insufficient evidence.
>
>Mr Green responded by calling the Minorities Support Unit officer who
>arrested him a “pompous ass” from a “politically correct” unit and
>threatening to sue the police.
>
>It is such battles that Mr Green relishes – they give him the opportunity
>to expound his uncompromising views, which include opposition to
>abortion, which he likens to the Holocaust, and homosexuality, the
>subject of his lengthy book, The Sexual Dead End.
>
>”We live in Godless society, in which secular humanism has won over
>residual Christianity,” he said.
>
>After many years as a fringe figure – most notably with the Conservative
>Family Campaign – Mr Green, a builder by trade, became full-time chairman
>of Christian Voice three years ago. Born in south London and raised as an
>Anglican, he says he is no longer a Conservative or an Anglican and now
>lives in west Wales, where he is a member of the local Pentecostal
>church.
>
>He came to prominence early last year when he campaigned against the
>BBC’s decision to broadcast the multi-award winning “Jerry Springer – The
>Opera”.
>
>Although his group is believed to have only a few hundred members – he
>will not say how many – they bombarded the BBC with letters and e-mails
>and placed the home addresses of senior executives on their website,
>causing a number to receive death threats.
>
>Subsequent campaigns and protests restricted a provincial tour of the
>show. He also persuaded Maggie’s Centres for cancer sufferers to turn
>down a #10,000 donation from the show after threatening to picket the
>charity. The BBC was later criticised for inviting Mr Green to appear on
>Question Time and revised its policy on his group.
>
>He has also campaigned, without success, against the Gay Police
>Association, particularly the participation of officers in gay pride
>marches, which led to his arrest in Cardiff. He wrote to all the
>country’s chief constables about the issue. All rejected his complaint
>and one, Terence Grange, the Chief Constable of Dyfed-Powys Police, wrote
>back: “As a lifelong practicing Catholic… I must advise you that I find
>your views morally offensive and totally reprehensible and I would be
>grateful if you would cease further communication.”
>
>Mr Green also protested against Wayne Rooney’s Nike adverts – condemned
>for “tasteless” use of Christian symbolism, a television documentary
>featuring anatomist Gunther von Hagens demonstrating the effects of a
>crucifixion, and the marriage of the Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker
>Bowles – on the basis that the latter was still married in the eyes of
>God.
>
>When Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, Mr Green declared it was
>”God’s wrath” and had brought “purity” to the city.
>
>While he has enjoyed some support from right-wing Christian groups and
>bodies such as Media-watchUK, the successor to Mary Whitehouse’s National
>Viewers and Listeners Association, mainstream churches have distanced
>themselves. A Church of England spokesman said they were “aware” of his
>activities, but would not be drawn further.
>
>Some, however, have been more forthright: the Rev Dr David Peel, the
>Moderator of the General Assembly of the United Reformed Church said
>Christian Voice was “a small, self-selecting group distinguished mainly
>by its absurd claim to represent Christians”. Bodies such as the National
>Secular Society and the British Humanist Association have also criticised
>Mr Green for being unrepresentative. “I think the media have given him an
>authority that he doesn’t deserve,” said Terry Sanderson, of the NSS.
>
>Surprisingly, Mr Green agrees: “There is absolutely no reason why I
>should have any prominence at all,” he says, adding: “But things have a
>habit of capturing the public imagination.”
>
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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED,
compared to all the financing registered on the property?
Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?
Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator
wrote:
Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006
>Can’t get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.
>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 – 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!
>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!
>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous “snitch line” to save the
>City many millions.
>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?
>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!
>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!
>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS
>wrote:
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: “Brian Boulanger”
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f…@bouncemail.ca – Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, “Brian Boulanger” wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands….
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks
>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.
>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.
>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.
>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!
>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year – PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!
>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB – Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities,
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.
>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor – care to comment?
>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree.
You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.
You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.
Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!
No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!
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It was the crooked Edmonton cops, who willingly gave their name to this scam,
so that the Police Hockey team would get publicity.
Because they are cops, they can not plead ignorance, of the laws!!
Just another scam involving crooked Edmonton cops, what?
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:58:35 GMT, “PV”
>”Asterix”
>news:[email protected]…
>> The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today’s
>> paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton’s crooked cops!!
>> They exposed a so-called CHARITY SCAM, for a so-called “benefit” game
>> run under the style of “Oldtimers Hockey Challenge”.
>> This scam collected more than $250,000 through fraudulent telephone
>> solicitors, claiming the money was going to a charity.
>> In fact, only $20,000 actually goes to a local women’s shelter safe
>> house.
>> Almost all the money goes to a scam business called Xentel DM Inc, out
>> of Calgary, not even a local business. In the USA, XENTEL has been the
>> subject of investigations alleging deceptive telemarketing, as well as
>> for breaching do-not-call laws.
>> In Iowa, in November 2004, Xentel was forced to stop abusive and
>> misleading calls in fundraising and solicitations, and was forced to
>> pay $30,000 in penalties.
>> Since almost all the money goes to a for-profit business, rather than
>> to a registered charity, why isn’t the provincial government charging
>> the crooks and their sponsors with FRAUD?
>> This scam was being promoted by the Edmonton Police Faded Blues
>> Hockey team.
>> Just one more scandal for the new chief to clean up!
>Xentel approached the faded blues, set it up, organized it and then skimmed
>85% of the money. This is a Xentel scam, not a police scam, the police
>hired the wrong organization.
>Of course so did the Organ Donation and Transplant Association of Canada. I
>am not calling them corrupt but told them I would not donate anything to
>Xentel who would pull the same scam.
>It’s time the Alberta government shut down this company, or force them to
>clean up their act.
>PV
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On 24 Sep 2006 15:25:56 -0000, in soc.culture.usa FrankFarber wrote:
To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo
From: tyler
Newsgroups: bc.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
Message-ID:
Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!
Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.
1) US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf
2) Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html
3) Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html
4) Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.
Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle April 2001
5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml
6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html
It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay’s
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.
Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don’t Americans and Canadians?
The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
>from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.
It’s time we found out the truth! It’s hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!
Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler
Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest…….
From: tyler
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Message-ID:
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT
The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.
The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic or
more effectiveI Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?
What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn’t need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn’t even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don’t need it?
Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA 10022
and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn’t have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.
Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec H9R 5M9
and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws? How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist? Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?
As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel’s nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?
Where is W5 on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification…
Wow, god is such good business…
tyler
On 2 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0800,
in edm.general
[email protected] (His Divine Shadow) used both functioning neurons to
say:
>[email protected] (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:
>> ADL Special Edition, January 1991
>> A periodic update from the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith
>> Civil Rights Division
>> “The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in
>> America.”
>> The bizarre claim by right wing extremists that kosher certification
>> markings on food labels (“U,” “K,” etc.) cost consumers extra money
>> and represent, in effect, a “kosher tax” to make rabbis rich, is a
>> striking example of the propaganda used by anti-Semites to trick the
>> uninformed into accepting conspiracy charges and stereotypes about
>> Jews.
>Thanks for the info, Kenneth.
Ken’s information is all well and good but it still doesn’t address all
of the issues raised in the appended post, which probably was the
reason why he was moved to comment on the subject in the first place.
All and all, I don’t suppose it is any worse than anything perpetuated
by the tradition of ‘Royal Warrants’ (http://www.royalwarrant.org/)
but I personally find the traditional rant and spin attached to everything
Ken puts out as some neo-nazi neo-conservative conspirarcy to be
getting a bit thin, and tiresome. A simple explaination of fact would
have sufficed.
It’s a continual appeal to developing a mindset that says if you aren’t
a friend then you are any enemy. It’s bullshit. I dare say there are
probably proportionately just as many Jews that are political right
wing extremeists as any other religion, including Baptists.
No one has to be a neo-nazi to object to any spcial concession to a
religious organization thing that increases the cost all consumers must
bear, even if it adds only $0.0005 to the cost of an individual item.
A few years back many people got their undies in a twist when it
was revealed that Rev. Sun Myung Moon was involved in many
well known companies, and boycotted it’s products.
AFAIC it doesn’t matter if a religion is termed a cult, there is no
reason to attribute arcane motivations to anything that helps people
to appreciate the complexity of the world we live in.
——————————————————————————-
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Or, other useful websites include:
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay rot in hell.
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, cops and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant
TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.
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On 24 Sep 2006 15:25:56 -0000, in soc.culture.usa FrankFarber wrote:
To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDPdDv7cEZo
From: tyler
Newsgroups: bc.general,calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,
alt.revisionism,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
Message-ID:
Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!
Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.
1) US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf
2) Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html
3) Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html
4) Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.
Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle April 2001
5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml
6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html
It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay’s
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.
Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don’t Americans and Canadians?
The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
>from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.
It’s time we found out the truth! It’s hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!
Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler
Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest…….
From: tyler
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Message-ID:
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT
The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.
The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic or
more effectiveI Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?
What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn’t need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn’t even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don’t need it?
Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA 10022
and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn’t have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.
Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec H9R 5M9
and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws? How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist? Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?
As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel’s nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?
Where is W5 on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification…
Wow, god is such good business…
tyler
On 2 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0800,
in edm.general
[email protected] (His Divine Shadow) used both functioning neurons to
say:
>[email protected] (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:
>> ADL Special Edition, January 1991
>> A periodic update from the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith
>> Civil Rights Division
>> “The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in
>> America.”
>> The bizarre claim by right wing extremists that kosher certification
>> markings on food labels (“U,” “K,” etc.) cost consumers extra money
>> and represent, in effect, a “kosher tax” to make rabbis rich, is a
>> striking example of the propaganda used by anti-Semites to trick the
>> uninformed into accepting conspiracy charges and stereotypes about
>> Jews.
>Thanks for the info, Kenneth.
Ken’s information is all well and good but it still doesn’t address all
of the issues raised in the appended post, which probably was the
reason why he was moved to comment on the subject in the first place.
All and all, I don’t suppose it is any worse than anything perpetuated
by the tradition of ‘Royal Warrants’ (http://www.royalwarrant.org/)
but I personally find the traditional rant and spin attached to everything
Ken puts out as some neo-nazi neo-conservative conspirarcy to be
getting a bit thin, and tiresome. A simple explaination of fact would
have sufficed.
It’s a continual appeal to developing a mindset that says if you aren’t
a friend then you are any enemy. It’s bullshit. I dare say there are
probably proportionately just as many Jews that are political right
wing extremeists as any other religion, including Baptists.
No one has to be a neo-nazi to object to any spcial concession to a
religious organization thing that increases the cost all consumers must
bear, even if it adds only $0.0005 to the cost of an individual item.
A few years back many people got their undies in a twist when it
was revealed that Rev. Sun Myung Moon was involved in many
well known companies, and boycotted it’s products.
AFAIC it doesn’t matter if a religion is termed a cult, there is no
reason to attribute arcane motivations to anything that helps people
to appreciate the complexity of the world we live in.
——————————————————————————-
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to work:(780)492-0473
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Or, other useful websites include:
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay rot in hell.
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, cops and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
John Bryant
TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.
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From: MacIntosh
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Subject: Re: Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay refers to ex-girlfriend Stronach as dog
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Actually, there is absolutely no mention in Hansard, or the tape of what was
said in Parliament, according to the Speaker of the House, who was interviewed
on TV, that MacKay ever said what the opposition clowns are alleging!!
That he and others had repartee about a dog is on the record, but at no time
did he say anything about Bitch Stronach!!
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:40:17 -0400, “retriever”
>Doesn’t everyone know that Belinda Strongbitch is a dog?
>”Brian”
>news:[email protected]…
>| Alexander Panetta, Canadian Press
>|
>http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=987c0cf5-9597-4925-acaf-574a2c33b646&k=26542
>|
>| OTTAWA (CP) – Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay referred to Liberal MP
>| Belinda Stronach – his ex-girlfriend – as a dog Thursday in the House of
>| Commons, the Liberals say.
>|
>| MacKay denies saying any such thing. The purported slur prompted
>Toronto-area
>| Liberal Mark Holland to lodge a complaint with the Commons Speaker, and
>other
>| Liberals expressed disgust at the alleged remark. Holland says the foreign
>| minister made the slur while exchanging jeers with the Liberals during a
>debate
>| on the environment.
>|
>| While the government was being peppered with questions about the new Clean
>Air
>| Plan, Holland says a Liberal jokingly asked MacKay about the impact of
>pollution
>| on humans and animals: “What about your dog?”
>|
>| According to Holland, MacKay motioned toward Stronach’s vacant seat and
>replied:
>| “You already have her.”
>|
>| MacKay staged a well-publicized photo op with a dog on his family’s Nova
>Scotia
>| farm when he and Stronach broke up after her stunning defection to the
>Liberal
>| party in 2005.
>
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, “Sharx35”
Evidence of crooked city tax assessors will again be proven at ARB Hearing,
Monday 18 September.
No wonder Mel Forseth, Nick Gorda, Mike Chibuk, and Frank Oesterreicher do not
want the public reminded, that for 8 years they allowed a lawyer’s house to be
DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR,
FOR 8 YEARS!!
One must wonder, who is on the take, to allow such irregularity for so long?
>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing, March 27.
>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed for his property at 13723 –
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.
>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?
It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main floor, and
rental apartments on upper floor.
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year – for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!
>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!
>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!
>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!
>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?
>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!
>> From: [email protected] the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700
>> Why do you call our beuatiful city “deadmonton”, ?
>> if you don’t like it here why are you doing here? why don’t you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you’re
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>
>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!
>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do – FILE AN APPEAL!!
>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!
>>> Checking the website for this year’s assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!
>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!
>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?
>>> From: [email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700
>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.
>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!
>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.
>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?
>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!
>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?
>>>> he[email protected] (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<[email protected]>…
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!
>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!
>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.
>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.
>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!
>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did…..
>>>>>> starwars
>>>>>> news:
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!
>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 – still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?
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One must wonder, how much is WEM DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED,
compared to all the financing registered on the property?
Is someone in the city tax assessment department still on the take?
Will Scott Hennig soon have another news story for the media, this time about
WEM?
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:11:49 -0700, Chief Instigator
wrote:
Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities will be
before the ARB on 31st August 2006
>Can’t get to MGB sooner, because of flood of appeals filed against crooked
>Edmonton tax department!!
>Seems I am not the only one proving they are crooks.
>Again, will be exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City allowed
>the lawyer owning the property at 13723 – 93 St. to be deliberately
>underassessed by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year, for 8 years!
>In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man who
>exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!
>Notice that Bob Welldumb can not argue the FACTS!
>Is he one of the beneficiaries of the crooks in the city tax department?
>One must wonder why he is so sore about the lawyer finally being forced
>to pay his proper share of city taxes!!
>Even the City Auditor is admitting he is aware of serious problems in certain
>departments, and is recommending an anonymous “snitch line” to save the
>City many millions.
>He could start with the city tax assessment section, obviously!!
>Why should Grosvenor who is not paid by the city, have to do the work
>of the overpaid city employees, who seem to be mainly crooks?
>As has been well documented, friends of the City seem to be able to get
>extremely favourable UNDER-ASSESSMENTS on THEIR properties, while
>the average citizen has their property OVER-ASSESSED to make up for the
>shortfall!!
>Yes, the city website was operational in May and June, which allowed some of
>us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in the ARB city tax
>appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES by the city tax staffers!
>One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to not care
>about massive irregularities!!
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 09:03:12 -0600, KenMcVayAIDS
>wrote:
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: “Brian Boulanger”
>>Date: 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700
>>Local: Thurs,Jun 30 2005 10:02 am
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>You are completely correct.
>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>their jobs!
>
>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>departments.
>
>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would
>>dramatically improve!!
>
>>
>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>
>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>>From: f…@bouncemail.ca – Find messages by this author
>>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 21:29:23 GMT
>>Local: Fri,Jul 1 2005 4:29 pm
>>Subject: Re: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to
>>Roll!!
>>On 30 Jun 2005 08:02:40 -0700, “Brian Boulanger” wrote:
>>>You are completely correct.
>>>Unfortunately, the bureaucrats on the city payroll trough have
>>>consistently opposed any review, such as Zero Based Budgetting, or MBO
>>>Management by Objectives, or any means of quantifying or/and justifying
>>>their jobs!
>>
>>>They know, that if the top 50% of all bureaucrats were fired, there
>>>would be absolutely no loss in the actual performance of the city
>>>departments.
>>
>>I believe you and actually have no doubt of this myself.
>>
>>>In fact, rumour is that performance, and cost/benefit would dramatically
>>>improve!!
>>
>>No doubt, look at all the duplication of services we now have. No
>>wonder it is more expensive to buy anything in Canada today then it is
>>to shop in the States. All people have to do is go to the web sites of
>>any governmnent and check out all the departments. See if there is any
>>overlap. Also, one has to take into consideration the use of
>>computers. Seems to me that it takes just as long to push paperwork
>>through as it did when I used to type on a standard typewriter. One
>>should ask themselves why? Too many hands….
>>
>>
>>>Take the local cops for example. We pay seniors there from $120,000 to
>>>$180,000 each,plus benefits. All are supposedly fluent in English.
>>>Yet they waste over ONE MILLION DOLLARS for their BS hacks and flacks,
>>>because they do not want to address the media themselves, but would
>>>rather engage in empire building! The million wasted could go instead
>>>to hiring some honest cops!
>>
>>I am not to sure what you mean here.
>>WHY SHOULD TAXPAYERS HAVE TO [AY MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A BS
>>SECTION AT POLICE HQ, WHEN WE ALREADY OVERPAY THE TOP COPS?!!
>>For what the chief and his deputy goons get paid, they should do their
>>own talking to the media, or else continue lying as their predecessors
>>did, until fired!!
>>
>>>As for the council members, there is only one – Mike Nickel – who
>>>actually runs a real business, and even he was forced to move it out of
>>>Edmonton to Leduc!! The rest of council are all parasites, and lazy
>>>ne’er-do-wells.
>>
>>With all the deductions that businesses get from the federal
>>government in income tax why did Mike Nickel have to move his business
>>to Leduc?
>>
>>PROBABLY BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH ANTI-BUSINESS RED TAPE FOR ANY
>>HONEST BUSINESS TRYING TO SURVIVE IN DEADMONTON?
>>
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks
>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.
>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.
>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.
>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!
>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year – PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!
>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB – Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities,
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.
>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor – care to comment?
>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree.
You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.
You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.
Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!
No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!
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It was the crooked Edmonton cops, who willingly gave their name to this scam,
so that the Police Hockey team would get publicity.
Because they are cops, they can not plead ignorance, of the laws!!
Just another scam involving crooked Edmonton cops, what?
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:58:35 GMT, “PV”
>”Asterix”
>news:[email protected]…
>> The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today’s
>> paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton’s crooked cops!!
>> They exposed a so-called CHARITY SCAM, for a so-called “benefit” game
>> run under the style of “Oldtimers Hockey Challenge”.
>> This scam collected more than $250,000 through fraudulent telephone
>> solicitors, claiming the money was going to a charity.
>> In fact, only $20,000 actually goes to a local women’s shelter safe
>> house.
>> Almost all the money goes to a scam business called Xentel DM Inc, out
>> of Calgary, not even a local business. In the USA, XENTEL has been the
>> subject of investigations alleging deceptive telemarketing, as well as
>> for breaching do-not-call laws.
>> In Iowa, in November 2004, Xentel was forced to stop abusive and
>> misleading calls in fundraising and solicitations, and was forced to
>> pay $30,000 in penalties.
>> Since almost all the money goes to a for-profit business, rather than
>> to a registered charity, why isn’t the provincial government charging
>> the crooks and their sponsors with FRAUD?
>> This scam was being promoted by the Edmonton Police Faded Blues
>> Hockey team.
>> Just one more scandal for the new chief to clean up!
>Xentel approached the faded blues, set it up, organized it and then skimmed
>85% of the money. This is a Xentel scam, not a police scam, the police
>hired the wrong organization.
>Of course so did the Organ Donation and Transplant Association of Canada. I
>am not calling them corrupt but told them I would not donate anything to
>Xentel who would pull the same scam.
>It’s time the Alberta government shut down this company, or force them to
>clean up their act.
>PV
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The Guardian Angels group, headed by their leader, arrived yesterday in
Edmonton, Canada.
They had been invited by a local citizen, who had become disgusted with the
rising crime, compounded by all the scandals involving crooked police.
Even the previous police chief was fired for just cause.
Now, the new chief cop is annoyed that an outside source has been
called in to do some of his functions.
The artsie-fartsie mayor is also annoyed, since it gives bad international
publicity to Deadmonton.
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 03:33:35 GMT, “PV”
>”Asterix”
>news:[email protected]…
>> The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today’s
>> paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton’s crooked cops!!
>Once again, you really really need to buy a new newspaper.
>It’s time to move on and ferret out some more “corruption”!
>PV
How about the story on page B6 of Thursday 18 May 2006, reporting on yet
another crooked cop – Cst. Aubrey Zalaski, charged with torture by laser of
another innocent civilian?
This case was so rotten, even the police chief had to lay criminal charges,
since he couldn’t cover it up!
Hardly a week goes by, without the media exposing more rogue cops.
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:06:31 GMT, “Northumberland”
>”Frank Arthur”
>news:[email protected]…
>> Today’s Edmonton Journal [24 March 2006]in a feature article states that
>> Edmonton has lost many thousands of jobs, according to Statistics Canada.
>What does this have to to with Toronto?
Idiots from Toronto may be considering losing their money in Deadmonton,
perhaps?
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Subject: Re: HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE – THE WORLDS GREATEST SCAM BY THE VILEST OF CRIMINALS – Repost
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:01:09 GMT, “Princeandy”
51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives ‘both Palestinian and
Israeli’ in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult not to
remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when examining
Zionism.
>http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch06.htm
>Hitler was history’s flail to drive the stiff-necked Jews back to their own
>kind and their own land
>How many times have we heard the impious wish uttered in despair over the
>apathy of American Jews to Zionism, that a Hitler descend upon them? Then
>they would realize the need for Palestine! ([6]
>However, defeating Jabotinsky’s resolution did not necessarily mean that the
>delegates favoured a deal with Hitler and, when the Nazis announced that
>they had signed an agreement with the Zionists allowing German Jews to ship
>three million Reichmarks’ worth of Jewish wealth to Palestine in the form of
>German export goods, much of the Congress dismissed the statement as a
>propaganda stunt. When the truth became clear, pandemonium broke loose. The
>leadership had completely miscalculated and genuinely expected the pact to
>be immensely popular. Now, stunned by the hostile opposition, they tried to
>protect themselves by outright lying; the Labour leader, Berl Locker,
>brazenly proclaimed: “the executive of the World Zionist Organisation had
>nothing to do with the negotiations which led to an agreement with the
>German government”. [17] No one believed this crude fabrication
>Read the Red Cross reports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters
> in your city and pick up the records. Anyway theres a few independent
> witnesses.
>> http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html
>http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Numbe
>> r=293321480
>> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735
>> http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm
>> Rassinier seems to wrap it up.
>> http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.html
>During World WarII, Rassinier was a highly decorated member of the French
>Resistance. In October of 1943 he was arrested by the Gestapo for various
>activities including the smuggling of Jewish refugees over the Franco-Swiss
>border. http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/PORT1RAS.HTML
>> http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n2_Letters.html
>> On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh
>> broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS – KENW-TV) said that when
>> Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was
>> told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years
>> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/lindbergh3.html
>http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
>I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
>with PhD’s in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence
> is forensic. Until recently, there was never a forensic examination of the alleged
>murder weapon (gas chambers). Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall
>of East Europe to communism, many of the millions of Jews who fled Poland
>into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names
>to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the
>concentration camps of louse-born typhus. During World War One, two million
>civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin’s gulags.
>Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
>Documentation Center in Israel has a database of 3,000,000 alleged victims
>of Nazi extermination. But as you can see HERE
>(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
>every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times!
>http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/IY_HON_Welcome
>Yad Vashem’s 3,000,000 “Holocaust victims” database lists nearly
>everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
>you can submit a “Page of Testimony”.
>And of course we have lists duplicated, unconfirmed, but 3m according to our
>usual jewish/Zionist sources.
>Put your name in, you might be missing out on reparations.
>Has been improvements since this, numbers still very dicey.
>Name Town District Region
>Country Bday Source
>Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
>1879 list of victims from Germany
>Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
>1879 list of deportation from Berlin
>Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
>1905 list of deportation from Berlin
>It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
>louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged
>by malicious “witnesses” or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for
>extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
>show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged.
>The photos and records show there was not enough coke or
>crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The “witnesses” and confessors
>lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust
>does not contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
>the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
>train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed ’em with the exhaust from
>the locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz,
>during a typhus epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the
>crematoria, shaving of heads and requisitions for tons of
>Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very dangerous, impractical, messy
>method for extermination.
>http://www.vho.org/
>The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
>The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
>impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists,
>who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always
>looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
>extorted billions from the US Treasury, Germany, Swiss banks and insurance
>companies on account of the Holohoax fraud. The Holohoax also makes
>those who fought Hitler feel like they did something good fighting the
>demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take
>on Stalin alone.
>A “liberal” person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.
>Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
>have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
>zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
>Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
>Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
>only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
>taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
>plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
>Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
>come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
>the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
>support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
>anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
>was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
>not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
>the Nazis.
>God told the jews the earthly struggles facing them if they didn’t
>follow his lead. Well, they didn’t and will continue to face Gods
>promise.
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Subject: Re: ZYD Friedman KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTING from Synagogue!! But No Jail-WHY? Repost
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Rob Welldumb, while stealing time and internet from his employers, J.R.Paine,
still refuses to discuss the subject.
Are his employers aware of the theft of company assets by Welldumb, or should
we all phone them to let them know?
Or, email them at [email protected]?
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:50:53 GMT, ChrisO’Neill
>On 25 Mar 2006 00:36:51 -0000, arielv2
>>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!
>>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of
>>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from
>>his synagogue. THE CANADIAN COPS ALLOWED THIS FILTHY CRIMINAL to flee back to Boston,
>>where the FBI picked him up!!
>YET A WHITE CRIMINAL DOING THE SAME, IN EDMONTON, IS GIVEN 3 1/2 YEARS
>PRISON!!
>Why wasn’t the ZYD given similar jail time?
________________________________________
>>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, “Iamhere”
>>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>>Iamhere
>>>======================================================================================
>>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!
>>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>>> kenmcvay Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>>> From: kenmc…@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue
>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess…@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >>If that was “A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church…” than it was O.K.
>>>> >>J.B.
>>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.
>>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?
>>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??
>>>> >>> >
>>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters
>>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded
>>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was
>>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.
>>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left
>>>> the country for his native United States.
>>>> It’s the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman’s activities – downloading a personal fantasy
>>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts – could be
>>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.
>>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and
>>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the
>>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs
>>>> and videos – as well as gay and bondage magazines – the bulk of his
>>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on
>>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.
>>>> “It’s extremely disgusting,” said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto
>>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman’s Internet provider. “Ninety per cent of this
>>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet.
>>>> Some … was directly downloaded from the Internet and some … was obtained
>>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,” Const. Martin said.
>>>> “The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>>> pornography that’s out there.”
>>>> Canada Customs’ intelligence division started working the case last
>>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs’
>>>> regional intelligence officer.
>>>> Now officers – who’ll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials –
>>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the “gruesome”
>>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case.
>>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest,
>>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. “As aware as people are that these things
>>>> can and do happen, it’s still a shock,” said Cathy Fox, president of the
>>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children – two sons and a daughter – were
>>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue’s Hebrew school. “It’s a very
>>>> difficult time.”
>>>> The cantor – who leads the congregation in song – taught her 13- year-old
>>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.
>>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. “I think the
>>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.” Some are
>>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. “I’m very saddened,” said Robert
>>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue’s board of governors.
>>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night
>>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.
>>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over
>>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into
>>>> provincial court by two sheriff’s deputies. Refusing even to look up at the
>>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.
>>>> “This is the first (such) charge through our office,” Crown attorney Frank
>>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. “But it sends a message out to the
>>>> public that if you’re in possession of these images from your Internet and
>>>> they’re child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and
>>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,” Mr. Hoskins said later.
>>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>>> (Ge
>>>> (Get All
>>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
>>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.
>>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman’s apartment was “ill-kept and unclean,” and
>>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
>>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.
>>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
>>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. “His
>>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,” said the Crown.
>>>> The former cantor – who is not married – has provided information that will
>>>> help police bring more “like-minded individuals” to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
>>>> said.
>>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department’s Internet
>>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. “We’re pursuing every angle at
>>>> this time. He’s not the only person. … The investigation does involve law
>>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.”
>>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
>>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won’t say which American agencies
>>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
>>>> comment.
>>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>>> confiscated.
>>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
>>>> to be with his family.
>>>> Officials won’t comment on the amount of the fine – the offence carries a
>>>> maximum of five years in prison – saying that’s up to the judge. But they
>>>> did say there was a plea bargain.
>>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
>>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
>>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
>>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
>>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.
>>>> “My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,” said Mrs. Fox,
>>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
>>>> the media.
>>>> “We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion … I’m still thinking
>>>> about how we will handle this.”
>>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
>>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.
>>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography – 31 nude or
>>>> partially-nude self-portraits – but the charges stem from the child-related
>>>> material.
>>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.
>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/”>http://www.nswpp.org
>>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, “mkarwan”
>>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm
>>>> >One Of Jewry’s Most Explosive Incidences
>>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media
>>>> >control can’t prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were
>>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation.
>>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9,
>>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.
>>>> >They were found to have molested hundreds of children, and taken extensive
>>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.
>>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!
>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>>is a revolutionary act.”
>>(George Orwell)
>>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>>”All truth passes through three stages.
>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>and impossible to ignore.”
>>–John Bryant
>>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>office: VISIT at:
>>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>>should give an indication as to the why.
>>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>even if he or she were not naked”?
>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
>>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>>work:(780)492-0473
>>And also: George Firestone: “George”
>>and [email protected], and [email protected].
>>Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>JEW-WATCH:
>>http://www.jewwatch.com
>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>>IHR – www.ihr.org
>>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]
>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>for many years around the world.
>>Reply-To: “George”
>>or to [email protected], or [email protected]
>>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
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Subject: Re: Canada IS a Fag Sex Tourism Destination?
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:27:15 -0500, Michel Boucher
wrote:
>SueShiksaCohen
>news:[email protected]:
>> Canada IS, and has been for years, a sex tourism destination for
>> fags, and other child molesters.
>> Read the book, “AND THE BAND PLAYED ON” to reveal the active
>> involvement of the Canadian government in the worldwide spread of
>> AIDS to other fags outside Canada, as well as within the country.
>> Canada welcomes as so-called refugees, those scum claiming to have
>> AIDS, or even just claiming to be a fag from a country where such
>> vermin are treated as the diseased perverts they are.
>If spreading these base and groundless canulars is the only way to keep
>the mentally challenged right-wing gormless buffoons like yourself out,
>I’m all for it.
Why do you think that the 150 AIDS-spreaders from other countries, mainly in
thrid world parts of the world, who attended the fag-fest in Toronto, are now
claiming to be so-called “refugees”?
This despite the fact that their hoem countries obviously ALLOWED these
diseased to feely go to Canada, and the stupid Canadian government ALLOWED
them in!!
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Subject: Re: Racist Jew hatemonger spammer “Gary Rumain” – IP: 210.211.117.172 posts anti-Muslim hate profanity daily- Call/Visit Him – Repost
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Arash, the word is hatemonger, not hatemongerer.
Or, did you mean hatemongrel, being a dog?
>On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 07:23:06 +1000, “Mike”
>>”Firnando”
>>news:[email protected]…
>>> Arash wrote:
>>>> This individual using the fake name of “Gary Rumain” (IP:
>>>> 210.211.117.172), on a daily basis insults Muslims (He is Jewish). He
>>>> also uses the name “I Hate muzzies”, “All muzzies are dirty, filthy,
>>>> stinking pigs”.
>Subject: GARY RUMAIN’S ADDRESS & PHONE NUMBER – Call/Visit Him
>On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 08:10:16 GMT,
>[email protected] wrote:
>>On 3-Dec-2005, “Ted”
>>> The Re’evd wrote:
>>> > Suzy “convert” Cohen must have you killfiled, cunt.
>>> > She *insists* that people are only posting “Alex’s” business address!
>>> OK, whatever.
>>Actually, this is just another lie of the self-proclaimed cunt who
>>calls himself “Rev” etc.
>>I only said no one did this *when* no one *had* done this.
>>He has since pretended that I said no one had done this *ever*.
>>It was HIS pretending that he had found MY home address
>>that nmade everyone post Seredin’s – but I wish they had
>>posted the phony rev’s – all we have so far
>>is Gordon Radavich
>AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ON YOU SUSAN E COHEN OF SILVER SPRING, MD
>AS HAS BEEN POSTED BY ANOTHER PARTY
>GARY A RUMAIN Born 1964
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>SUSAN E COHEN Born Nov 1962
>8112 GROVE ST
>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>[email protected] (Gary Rumain)
>You look very stupid in your denial of the facts Susan. You have been
>successfully outed so live with it.
>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 08:02:03 GMT, <%[email protected]>
>[email protected] wrote:
>>And you wonder why you liars get called stupid.
>I saw no lie. Where was the lie? For the fun or it I checked it out
>and it is all true.
>>http://www.zabasearch.com/
>Using the above search I found the following also.
>>GARY A RUMAIN Born 1964
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>
>>SUSAN E COHEN Born Nov 1962
>>8112 GROVE ST
>>SILVER SPRING, MD (301) 565-9746
>
>http://www.infospace.com/home/white-pages/reverse-phone
>A reverse trace of the above telephone number shows:
>
>Gary Rumain
>8112 Grove St
>Silver Spring, MD 20910-4758
>Add to Outlook 301-565-9746
>http://kevdb.infospace.com/home/white-pages/kevdb?showrec=46587777:res-us&OTMPL=/white-pages/details.htm&QN=Rumain&QF=Gary&QC=Silver%20Spring&QS=MD&wqp=1&qsubcat=singlematch
>The above long link as a TinyURL:
>http://tinyurl.com/a74xw
>
>They even show a map of how to get to your house.
>Care to remain in denial Susan E Cohen?
>
>You made the post below did you not?
>You admitted Gary Rumain is your husband did you not?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.scottish/msg/5a65b7eefb1e7400
>(Archived locally as: GaryAndSusan_1)
>
>>[email protected] (Gary Rumain)
>>Re: Bruneian Royal Harem: “Harem Scare ‘Em?” Dateline NBC 9/23/97
>>1997/10/05
>><[email protected]>
>
>>In alt.talk.royalty Yet Another Steve
>>: In article <60[email protected]>, [email protected] (Gary Rumain) wrote:
>
>>: Okay, you’ve managed to confuse me now, too. You post under the name
>>: “Gary Rumain” and sign your postings “Susan Cohen.” Is this an instance
>>: of someone “hiding his/her identity” as well?
>
>>No. If I wanted to hide my identity, would I sign each & every post with
>>my name? We haven’t been able to change the post-name so it includes mine
>>as well as my husband’s. However, I was under the impression that this was
>>a common enough occurence on Usenet.
>
>>And, the “anonymity” to which I referred was the fact that, while mine is
>>genuine, the original poster’s was a false e-mail address. You can reach
>>me at ze[email protected] any time you feel like tyoing. There was no way to
>>reach the original poster. I find that very suspicious, if only because
>>it is a perennial practise of the worst trolls.
>
>>Susan Cohen
>
>
>SUSAN STILL TRYING TO GET THE ADDRESS OF HER OPPONENT
>
>>All the search engines the bigots use (which I never knew of
>>until THEY posted about them – such idiots! -) are centered
>>in the US.
>
>>Susan
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
>Michael’s detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid
>molseter, and is known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies
>must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
>just to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially
>late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: “George”
>
>or to [email protected], or [email protected]
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the
>like.
>
>~~
>
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Subject: Re: Richard Warman lawsuit an indicator of what’s hot on the net – Support Freedom of Speech!
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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.
In the meantime, the US-based website for the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.
On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, “Toto the Dog”
>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name “Dossier Noir”; “Dosier Noir” Opens
>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff
>Ottawa, Canada — The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name “Dossier Noir”, causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account “Dosier Noir”.
>”They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,”
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, “There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so.”
>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:
>”Good always looks evil to evil.”
>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for “regime change” in Iraq or
>North Korea:
>”If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border.”
>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled “slaughter of Zion”.
>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.
>”When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government,” White says, “They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.
>”I mean, what does Warman think? That we’re just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate — execution at the hands of a people’s
>government.”
>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media — directly
>owning almost all of it — and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada’s white population.
Emailed to you by:
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Subject: FIRE Lowry!! Make Lowry PAY!! EPCOR Screws Up – Penalized $450,000!!
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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!
Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!
Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammaer, deserves to get swindled.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>
>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!
>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?
>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?
>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?
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Subject: Re: ENOCH CASINO & DEVELOPMENT=KISS OF DEATH FOR WEM!! Hooray!! More
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:30:34 -0500, “Nomad”
>”GourdMcVay”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On 7 September 2006, the Edmonton Journal again did a banner headline
>> feature on the coming opening next month of the Enoch Cree Casino and hotel
>> development.
>> It will be opening TOMORROW, putting more pressure on the dying West
>> Edmonton Mall.
>> At the same time, media are reporting that the casino at West Edmonton
>> Mall is having a strike of employees. If it lasts for a few more weeks, all
>> their customers will be flooding into the new Enoch Casino, a few blocks away.
>> The operators of the WEM Casino admit they are losing 45% of their
>> business, so far, due to the strike. With Enoch opening, they will probably go under
>> at WEM.
>> To add insult to injury, while the WEM casino prohibits smoking, at Enoch
>> smokers are welcome!!
>…yep, and another case where the white man gets screwed! Aaaaaa equality
>at it’s best.
What a load of horse puckey!!
The Enoch Band paid out all their oil and gas revenues, not from white man
taxes!!
They have a first-class facility there, much better than the WEM dump!!
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:30:34 -0500, “Nomad”
>”GourdMcVay”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On 7 September 2006, the Edmonton Journal again did a banner headline
>> feature on the coming opening next month of the Enoch Cree Casino and hotel
>> development.
>> It OPENED TODAY , putting more pressure on the dying West
>> Edmonton Mall.
>> At the same time, media are reporting that the casino at West Edmonton
>> Mall is having a strike of employees. If it lasts for a few more weeks, all
>> their customers will be flooding into the new Enoch Casino, a few blocks away.
>> The operators of the WEM Casino admit they are losing 45% of their
>> business, so far, due to the strike. With Enoch opening, they will probably go under
>> at WEM.
>> To add insult to injury, while the WEM casino prohibits smoking, at Enoch
>> smokers are welcome!!
>…yep, and another case where the white man gets screwed! Aaaaaa equality
>at it’s best.
What a load of horse puckey!!
The Enoch Band paid out all their oil and gas revenues, not from white man
taxes!!
They have a first-class facility there, much better than the WEM dump!!
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Subject: Re: ENOCH CASINO & DEVELOPMENT-Open Yesterday=KISS OF DEATH FOR WEM!! Hooray!! More
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The Edmonton Journal had several pages of news in the paper for Friday 27
October 2006, promoting the suberb facility at Enoch.
Now the flunkies at WEM are complaining that smoking is allowed at Enoch,
which is an independent NATION, while at WEM smoking is not allowed, so their
customers are flooding to Enoch.
Further, Enoch have a shuttle bus service, from across the road at WEM on 87
Avenue, taking WEM customers, for FREE, to Enoch!!
Then to add insult to insury, the Journal had a banner headline story about
INSANITARY CONDITIONS AT WEM WATERPARK!!
No wonder people get sick there, with fecal contamination and worse!!
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:30:34 -0500, “Nomad”
>”GourdMcVay”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On 7 September 2006, the Edmonton Journal again did a banner headline
>> feature on the coming opening next month of the Enoch Cree Casino and hotel
>> development.
>> It OPENED TODAY , putting more pressure on the dying West
>> Edmonton Mall.
>> At the same time, media are reporting that the casino at West Edmonton
>> Mall is having a strike of employees. If it lasts for a few more weeks, all
>> their customers will be flooding into the new Enoch Casino, a few blocks away.
>> The operators of the WEM Casino admit they are losing 45% of their
>> business, so far, due to the strike. With Enoch opening, they will probably go under
>> at WEM.
>> To add insult to injury, while the WEM casino prohibits smoking, at Enoch
>> smokers are welcome!!
>…yep, and another case where the white man gets screwed! Aaaaaa equality
>at it’s best.
What a load of horse puckey!!
The Enoch Band paid out all their oil and gas revenues, not from white man
taxes!!
They have a first-class facility there, much better than the WEM dump!!
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From: GordChartrand
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Subject: Re: Edmonton Council OVERPAID!! Cut Their Pay!! or better yet, FIRE them!
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:32:48 GMT, Sew
>On 30 Mar 2006 02:15:16 -0000, Dump The Crooks
>>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>>long suspected.
>>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>>are endorsing.
>>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.
>>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>>Premier of Alberta!!
>>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>>councillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year – PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!
>>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB – Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities,
>>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.
>>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor – care to comment?
>I am in TOTAL AGREEMENT. I am tired of politicians thinking they can
>just run for office and then increase homeowners taxes just so they
>can give themselves more and more raises. It is NOT RIGHT no matter
>who they are paying to say that it is. The cost of living in Edmonton
>is way lower than Calgary or Toronto, there are fewer people living in
>Edmonton, and most of all which of the people that are running this
>city have a university degree?? After all, in order to make that kind
>of money most people NEED to have a university degree.
You do not need to have a university degree to be a capable administrator of
billions of dollars.
You should at least be a successful BUSINESS OWNER.
Out of current 13 clowns on council, apparaently only Mike Nickel owns a
successful business.
Further, council members should be HONEST, and not support corruption and
criminality, and similar. This council went so far as to give a payoff of HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS to the former disgraced chief cop, who had been fired for
just cause!!
No honest, competent business managers would have colluded as they did!!
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Subject: Re: REPOST:Fire Tenured Profs! Reducing Tuition!! Repost
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On 30 Sep 2004 18:41:39 -0000, Student Woes wrote:
>Students complaining about exorbitantly high tuition fees
>should be complaining about all the deadwood profs on
>tenure, drawing obscenely high wages and benefits!!
>So-called professors giving unwanted and useless courses
>to 17 so-called students, (most of whom are natives having
>costs paid by taxpayers,) while drawing $120,000 or so in
>wages, is unfair to poor students struggling to pay for
>tuition, books, other fees, and of course living expenses
>such as rent and food.
>If the students would finally get angry enough to force
>university administrations to ABOLISH TENURE, then perhaps
>tuition fees would actually drop to a more acceptable level.
>Why not abolish all tenured profs, if they can not find enough
>suckers to pay the costs of their wages,class facilities and all
>the other costs connected to having a particular program. In other
>words, have only courses that students who must pay, actually want.
>If the courses are not useful to graduates in obtaining
>worthwhile employment, then the university should not be
>having useless profs sucking at the public teat, to the
>increased cost to students as well.
>How many so-called university graduates are good only for
>a part-time job at McGrungy’s, because the courses for
>which they got ripped-off, are not worth anything in the
>real world of employment!!
>FIRE ALL THE USELESS PROFS, [especially those that are PC]
>and let them try to earn a living in the real world.Most of
>these profs would probably have to go on welfare!!
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Subject: Health Inspector Condemns West Edmonton Mall Waterpark!! YUUCHH! Unsafe!
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The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story onthe front page in the
issue for Fraiday 27 October 2006, reported on the insanitary conditions at
the WEM Waterpark, as detailed by the Health Inspectors!!
Capital Health reported that waterslides and decks at West Edmonton Mall
Waterpark [WEM] were covered in scum, mould, dirt and algae on this past
Tuesday, and some areas were full of the smell of sewage!!
The facility and equipment were in disrepair and not being maintained in a
clean and sanitary manner, the environmental health officer further reported,
in a 3 page cpomplaint filed with Nader and Eskander Ghermezian, operators of
WEM.
The Health Inspector further noted that chemical testing stations were soilded
and disorderly and that filtration and mechanical rooms were dirty and
cluttered.
The Health Inspector also cited WEM for not having a competent operator at
nights and on weekends, to take necessary corrective actions to ensure safe
water quality.
Improperly chlorinated water can lead to serious enteric and other water
diseases, such as e-coli and cryptosporidium, according to the Health
Inspector.
Capital Health further stated that this latest citation follows 2 previous
complaints regarding similar deficiencies.
West Edmonton Mall has twice in the past 2 years been flooded with human
sewage, due to faulty plumbing, which seems to have never been properly
repaired.
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Subject: Re: ENOCH CASINO & DEVELOPMENT-Open Yesterday=KISS OF DEATH FOR WEM!! Hooray!! More
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:52:07 -0500, “Nomad”
>
>
>…so they’ve got a nice venue…so what, THAT’s not the argument here…in
>the event you’ve slept during this thread…the equality of the law is
>what’s in question here…
The ENOCH NATION is a separate legal NATION, and does not need to follow the
insanely stupid laws of communist Deadmonton!!
>”GordChartrand”
>news:[email protected]…
>> The Edmonton Journal had several pages of news in the paper for Friday 27
>> October 2006, promoting the suberb facility at Enoch.
>>
>> Now the flunkies at WEM are complaining that smoking is allowed at Enoch,
>> which is an independent NATION, while at WEM smoking is not allowed, so
>> their customers are flooding to Enoch.
>>
>> Further, Enoch have a shuttle bus service, from across the road at WEM on
>> 87 Avenue, taking WEM customers, for FREE, to Enoch!!
>>
>> Then to add insult to insury, the Journal had a banner headline story
>> about INSANITARY CONDITIONS AT WEM WATERPARK!!
>> No wonder people get sick there, with fecal contamination and worse!!
>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:30:34 -0500, “Nomad”
>> wrote:
>>>”GourdMcVay”
>>>news:[email protected]…
>>>> On 7 September 2006, the Edmonton Journal again did a banner headline
>>>> feature on the coming opening next month of the Enoch Cree Casino and
>>>> hotel development.
>>
>>>> It OPENED TODAY , putting more pressure on the dying West
>>>> Edmonton Mall.
>>
>>>> At the same time, media are reporting that the casino at West Edmonton
>>>> Mall is having a strike of employees. If it lasts for a few more weeks,
>>>> all their customers will be flooding into the new Enoch Casino, a few blocks
>>>> away.
>>
>>>> The operators of the WEM Casino admit they are losing 45% of their
>>>> business, so far, due to the strike. With Enoch opening, they will
>>>> probably go under at WEM.
>>
>>>> To add insult to injury, while the WEM casino prohibits smoking, at
>>>> Enoch smokers are welcome!!
>>
>>>…yep, and another case where the white man gets screwed! Aaaaaa equality
>>>at it’s best.
>>
>> What a load of horse puckey!!
>>
>> The Enoch Band paid out all their oil and gas revenues, not from white man
>> taxes!!
>>
>> They have a first-class facility there, much better than the WEM dump!!
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From: DeziCohen
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Subject: Re: Richard Warman lawsuit an indicator of what’s hot on the net – Support Freedom of Speech!
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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.
In the meantime, the US-based website for the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.
On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, “Toto the Dog”
>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name “Dossier Noir”; “Dosier Noir” Opens
>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff
>Ottawa, Canada — The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name “Dossier Noir”, causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account “Dosier Noir”.
>”They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,”
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, “There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so.”
>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:
>”Good always looks evil to evil.”
>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for “regime change” in Iraq or
>North Korea:
>”If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border.”
>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled “slaughter of Zion”.
>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.
>”When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government,” White says, “They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.
>”I mean, what does Warman think? That we’re just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate — execution at the hands of a people’s
>government.”
>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media — directly
>owning almost all of it — and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada’s white population.
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Subject: FIRE Lowry!! Make Lowry PAY!! EPCOR Screws Up – Penalized $450,000!!
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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!
Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!
Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammaer, deserves to get swindled.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>
>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!
>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?
>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?
>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?
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From: DeziCohen
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:51:17 -0500, “Nomad”
>”GordChartrand”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:52:07 -0500, “Nomad”
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>…so they’ve got a nice venue…so what, THAT’s not the argument
>>>here…in the event you’ve slept during this thread…the equality of the law is
>>>what’s in question here…
>>
>> The ENOCH NATION is a separate legal NATION, and does not need to follow
>> the insanely stupid laws of communist Deadmonton!!
>
>So how come then, the Enoch Nation doesn’t want to follow this law, but they
>want the government to abide by health laws? The ol’ I
>wil-not-follow-your-health-laws-until-it-suits-me-THEN-I-want-you-to-follow-them-to-heal-me
>theory eh. See my next threaded comment on priorities.
So how come then, the Enoch Nation doesn’t want to follow this law, but they
want the government to abide by health laws? The ol’ I
wil-not-follow-your-health-laws-until-it-suits-me-THEN-I-want-you-to-follow-them-to-heal-me
theory eh. See my next threaded comment on priorities.
The no-smoking ban is a MUNICIPAL rule from the idiots mismanaging the city of
DEADMONTON.
Being an independent NATION, Enoch can pass, or not pass, any laws they feel
like having.
They do not need to follow the lunatics at Redmonton silly hall!!
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From: DrErnstZundholz
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Subject: Re: Edmonton vs. Toronto
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:29:16 -0500, “MI Wakefield”
wrote:
>Edmonton: Estimated population of 712,000 and 36 murders so far in 2006 – 1
>murder per 19,800 people.
>
>Toronto: Estimated population of 2,480.000 and 58 murders so far in 2006 –
>1 murder per 42,800 people.
And the murder total for Deadmonton is NOT including the 107 women in the sex
trade, possibly killed by a cop, judge or lawyer, but the bodies were moved
out past the city limits!!
Mind you, Redmonton now has the former deputy chief cop from Hogtown, who was
repeatedly refused the top job there.
Here, he seems just as uselss as when he couldn’t, or wouldn’t do anything
about gangs in Toronto!!
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From: DrErnstZundholz
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Subject: Re: ENOCH CASINO & DEVELOPMENT-Open Last Week=KISS OF DEATH FOR WEM!! Hooray!! More
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Now the media are reporting, that WEM are trying to have the FREE shuttle bus
to the Enoch Casino, relocated from the present stop, across the road on 87
Avenue from WEM.
Apparently the booming business of the Enoch Casino is disturbing to the
parasites of WEM, because thew casino at WEM is almost out of business,
mainly due to a strike of the employees!!
ETS and the City should do nothing in connection with the contract between
Enoch and ETS.
Taxpayers have already paid enough – more than 1000 MILLION $ for Triple5.
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:51:17 -0500, “Nomad”
>”GordChartrand”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:52:07 -0500, “Nomad”
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>…so they’ve got a nice venue…so what, THAT’s not the argument
>>>here…in the event you’ve slept during this thread…the equality of the law is
>>>what’s in question here…
>>
>> The ENOCH NATION is a separate legal NATION, and does not need to follow
>> the insanely stupid laws of communist Deadmonton!!
>
>So how come then, the Enoch Nation doesn’t want to follow this law, but they
>want the government to abide by health laws? The ol’ I
>wil-not-follow-your-health-laws-until-it-suits-me-THEN-I-want-you-to-follow-them-to-heal-me
>theory eh. See my next threaded comment on priorities.
So how come then, the Enoch Nation doesn’t want to follow this law, but they
want the government to abide by health laws? The ol’ I
wil-not-follow-your-health-laws-until-it-suits-me-THEN-I-want-you-to-follow-them-to-heal-me
theory eh. See my next threaded comment on priorities.
The no-smoking ban is a MUNICIPAL rule from the idiots mismanaging the city of
DEADMONTON.
Being an independent NATION, Enoch can pass, or not pass, any laws they feel
like having.
They do not need to follow the lunatics at Redmonton silly hall!!
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Now the media are reporting, that WEM are trying to have the FREE
shuttle bus to the Enoch Casino, relocated from the present stop,
across the road on 87 Avenue from WEM.
Apparently the booming business of the Enoch Casino is disturbing
to the parasites of WEM, because the casino at WEM is almost out
of business, mainly due to a strike of the employees!!
Plus, the new Enoch development does not have the stink of sewage
and other filth, as reported by the Health department in connection
with WEM Waterpark!!
ETS and the City should do nothing in connection with the contract
between Enoch and ETS.
Taxpayers have already paid enough – more than 1000 MILLION $ for Triple5.
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:51:17 -0500, “Nomad”
>”GordChartrand”
>news:[email protected]…
>> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:52:07 -0500, “Nomad”
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>…so they’ve got a nice venue…so what, THAT’s not the argument
>>>here…in the event you’ve slept during this thread…the equality of the law is
>>>what’s in question here…
>>
>> The ENOCH NATION is a separate legal NATION, and does not need to follow
>> the insanely stupid laws of communist Deadmonton!!
>
>So how come then, the Enoch Nation doesn’t want to follow this law, but they
>want the government to abide by health laws? The ol’ I
>wil-not-follow-your-health-laws-until-it-suits-me-THEN-I-want-you-to-follow-them-to-heal-me
>theory eh. See my next threaded comment on priorities.
So how come then, the Enoch Nation doesn’t want to follow this law, but they
want the government to abide by health laws? The ol’ I
wil-not-follow-your-health-laws-until-it-suits-me-THEN-I-want-you-to-follow-them-to-heal-me
theory eh. See my next threaded comment on priorities.
The no-smoking ban is a MUNICIPAL rule from the idiots mismanaging the city of
DEADMONTON.
Being an independent NATION, Enoch can pass, or not pass, any laws they feel
like having.
They do not need to follow the lunatics at Redmonton silly hall!!
From pan[email protected] Sat Oct 13 23:22:33 EDT 2007
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: GEKO-Wo Ist $32 MILLIONEN Plant in Edmonton Kanada,nach 3 Jahre? Geld Verschwunden?
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Man muss wundern, wer hat die $32 MILLIONEN, wenn das Plant existiert nicht?
On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:14:42 -0600, Joe Bruno
>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>
>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.
>
>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>
>From: Ken Levi
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>
>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>
>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?
>
>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, [email protected]
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt – Did GEKO pay the taxes
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year’s Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times – 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign…
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: KATYN=MURDERS OF POLISH BY ZYDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! Like Vinnitsa!! NEVER FORGET!
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With even the Soviets forced to admit that it was their ZYD NKVD who did the
murders at KATYN, why are you apologising for them?
Historians and experts proved it was NOT the Germans!
Were you one of the killers, or perhaps your father, uncle or?
On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, “Peter Wielki”
>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukraninians that did the crime,
>as far as I know.
>
>But yeah, let’s blame it on JEWS!!! Germans did it too, right Frankie?
>”Frank Arthur”
>news:[email protected]…
>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!
>>
>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.
>>
>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.
>>
>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!
>>
>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles
>>
>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)
>>
>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>> the
>> discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in
>> realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to
>> slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single
>> shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1,
>> 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had
>> been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to
>> The
>> Final Solution, which had not yet begun.
>>
>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a
>> year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used
>> the
>> word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned,
>> as
>> dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>> single
>> narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was
>> to
>> eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>> guardians.
>>
>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the
>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside
>> Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.
>>
>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget
>> Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.
>>
>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the
>> truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most
>> pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship
>> between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.
>>
>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding
>> him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder
>> victims.
>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and
>> for
>> all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily,
>> and
>> Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.
>>
>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by
>> which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew
>> of
>> the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>> three –
>> two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to those lies.
>>
>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five
>> years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>> anything.
>>
>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>> the
>> diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government
>> in
>> the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>> victims of Katyn.
>>
>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of
>> which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians
>> –
>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this
>> must have had on Kremlin thinking?
>>
>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of
>> a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city,
>> the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.
>>
>>
>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>
>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>
>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.
>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.
>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>
>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.
>>
>> ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESAE ZHID MURDERERS!!
>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.
>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.
>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZHIDS isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>> First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao tse Dung
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!!
>> Me
>>
>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)
>>
>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>>
>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>>
>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant
>>
>>
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>>
>> Newsgroups:
>> pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,alt.politics.europe
>> Subject: KATYN=MURDERS BY ZHIDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!
>>
>> The filthy ZHIDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.
>>
>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.
>>
>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!
>>
>>
>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:
>> soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles
>>
>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)
>>
>>
>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary
>> of the discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in
>> realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to
>> slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single
>> shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1,
>> 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated
>> to The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.
>>
>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a
>> year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis,
>> who invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely
>> used the word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler
>> learned, as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers
>> from a single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide:
>> its
>> intent was to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its
>> perceived guardians.
>>
>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the exiled
>> Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers.
>> A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.
>>
>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget
>> Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.
>>
>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and the
>> terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the
>> truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most
>> pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.
>>
>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his
>> future murder victims. And when Stalin jested that they should settle the
>> German problem once and for all by killing 50,000 German officers,
>> Churchill
>> merely protested sulkily, and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing
>> only 49,000.
>>
>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three
>> knew of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently,
>> all
>> three – two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to
>> those lies.
>>
>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn:
>> once Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with
>> almost anything.
>>
>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn
>> into the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan
>> Government in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a
>> memorial in London to the victims of Katyn.
>>
>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of
>> which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians
>> –
>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this
>> must have had on Kremlin thinking?
>>
>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of
>> a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city,
>> the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.
>>
>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> >>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>
>>> >>>>Katyn
>>> >>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>
>>> >>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>> >>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>> >>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>> >>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>> >>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>> >>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>> >>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>> >>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>> >>>>during the Second World War.
>>
>>> >>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>> >>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>> >>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>> >>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>> >>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>> >>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>> >>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>> >>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>> >>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>
>>> >>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>> >>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>> >>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>> >>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>> >>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>
>>> >>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>> >>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>> >>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>> >>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>> >>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>> >>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>> >>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>
>>> >>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>> >>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>> >>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>> >>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>> >>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>> >>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>> >>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>> >>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>> >>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>> >>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>> >>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>> >>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>> >>>>of Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>> >>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>> >>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>> >>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>> >>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>> >>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>> >>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>> >>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>> >>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>> >>>>in 1940.
>>
>>> >>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>> >>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>> >>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>> >>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>> >>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>> >>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>> >>>>along the River Bug.
>>
>>> >>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>> >>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>> >>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>> >>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>> >>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>> >>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>> >>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>> >>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>> >>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>> >>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>> >>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>> >>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>> >>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>> >>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>> >>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>> >>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>> >>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>> >>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>> >>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>> >>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>> >>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>> >>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>> >>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>
>>> >>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>> >>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>> >>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>> >>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>> >>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>> >>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>> >>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>> >>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>> >>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>> >>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>> >>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>> >>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>> >>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>> >>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>> >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>> >>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>> >>>>Russia.
>>
>>> >>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>> >>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>> >>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>> >>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>> >>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>> >>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>> >>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>> >>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>> >>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>> >>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>> >>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>> >>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>> >>>>FBI.
>>
>>> >>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>> >>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>> >>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>> >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>> >>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>> >>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>> >>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>> >>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>> >>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>> >>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>> >>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>> >>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>> >>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>> >>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>> >>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>> >>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>> >>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>> >>>>of them did.
>>
>>> >>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>> >>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>> >>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>> >>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>> >>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>> >>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>> >>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>> >>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>> >>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>> >>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>> >>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>> >>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>
>>> >>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>> >>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>> >>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>> >>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>> >>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>> >>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>> >>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>> >>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>> >>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>> >>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>> >>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>> >>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>> >>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>> >>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>
>>> >>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>> >>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>> >>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>> >>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>> >>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>> >>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>> >>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>> >>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>> >>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>> >>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>> >>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>> >>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>> >>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>> >>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>> >>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>> >>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>> >>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>> >>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>> >>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>> >>>>killings.
>>
>>> >>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>> >>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>> >>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>> >>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>> >>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>> >>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>> >>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>> >>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>> >>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>> >>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>> >>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>> >>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>> >>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>> >>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>> >>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>> >>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>
>>> >>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>> >>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>> >>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>> >>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>> >>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>> >>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>> >>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>> >>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>> >>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>> >>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>> >>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>> >>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>> >>>>back to their governments.
>>
>>> >>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>> >>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>> >>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>> >>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>> >>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>> >>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>> >>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>
>>> >>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>> >>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>> >>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>> >>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>> >>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>> >>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>> >>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>> >>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>> >>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>> >>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>> >>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>> >>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>> >>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>
>>> >>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>> >>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>> >>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>> >>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>> >>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>> >>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>> >>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>> >>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>> >>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>> >>>>decided.
>>
>>> >>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>> >>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>> >>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>> >>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>> >>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>> >>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>> >>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>> >>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>> >>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>> >>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>> >>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>> >>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>> >>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>
>>> >>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>> >>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>> >>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>> >>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>> >>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>> >>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>> >>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>> >>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>> >>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>> >>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>> >>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>> >>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>> >>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>> >>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>> >>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>> >>>>feeling.
>>
>>> >>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn’t surprising. What is
>>> >>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>> >>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>> >>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>> >>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>> >>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>> >>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>> >>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>> >>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>> >>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>
>>> >>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>> >>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>> >>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>> >>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>
>>> >>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>> >>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>> >>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>> >>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.
>>
>>> >>>>++++++++++++++
>>
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>>
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>>> >>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>
>>> >>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>> >>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>
>>> >>>>Katja Lane’s Fourteen Word Press
>>> >>>>http://www.14words.com
>>
>>> >>>>National Alliance
>>> >>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>
>>> >>>>Stormfront
>>> >>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>
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>>> >>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>>
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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.
The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS – such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!
Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, “amigo cabal”
>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler
>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews,
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did
>hold – including army and air force generals.
>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society,
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from
>outside observers.
>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan
>Mark Rigg in his book “Hitler’s Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military” (University
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers,
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.
>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations
>of being “true Germans”, many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).
>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis’ racial
>laws.
>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight’s Cross
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as an Aryan, even
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch’s right, General Wolfram von
>Richthofen.
>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.
>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort;
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens’s first
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.
>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the
>Knight’s Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right:
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.
>”KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS”
>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg’s book:
>
>”The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of
>the Nazi years.” – John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second
>World War, (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)
>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be
>”shocked” by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.
>The phrase “knowing the Nazi regime for what it was” above by Keegan, is
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be
>granted full Aryan status – especially given that there were only
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.
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Subject: Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People=Ike’s Death Camps!! Repost
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On Sun, 20 August 2006 08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:
This is more than true, if you read the book “OTHER LOSSES” by
Bacque!
It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.
Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!
>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, “Schorsch”
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Schorsch
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe
>>> Was there some point you wished to make?
>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…
>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike’s Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest…….
>>>From: [email protected] (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: “Ike”‘s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF “IKE’S DEATH CAMPS”
>>>By Martin Brech
>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in ‘the land of the free’?”
>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>”Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect… Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks…One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald…The book blames Eisenhower. ‘The German is a beast,’
>>>Ike had written…But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly…It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton…Ignoring the book is not enough.”
>>>Pat Buchanan’s courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the “banality of evil”,
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.
>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the “Battle of
>>>the Bulge”, my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a “repo depo” (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.
>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.
>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.
>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.
>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.
>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from “higher up”. No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term “war criminal” was just beginning to come into fashion.
>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners’ food, and that these orders came from “higher up”. But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.
>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the “offense”, and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, “Why?” he mumbled,
>>>”Target practice,” and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn’t tell if any
>>>had been hit.
>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.
>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of “my country, right or wrong, my country,” which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.
>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.
>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. “Yankee
>>>traders” were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.
>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the “graveyard shift”, from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn’t bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.
>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn’t
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.
>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.
>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing — both felt a
>>>touch of spring.
>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed “mystical”. However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)
>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).
>>>However, on this day we were happy.
>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly ‘broke the ice’, and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German (“Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen”). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>”Eisenhower jacket” so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.
>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.
>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow ‘killing fields’.
>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were “camp followers”, selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn’t think
>>>they deserved our treatment.
>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a “fancy Nazi
>>>medal”, which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him “off
>>>her back”, but I didn’t think one of our ‘death camps’ was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his “dirty work”.
>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible — that is, when they weren’t chased
>>>away.
>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by “displaced persons”
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.
>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the “contraband”
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.
>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more “available”, but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was “just friends”
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.
>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies’ atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government’ s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.
>>>I realized it’s difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to “talk” because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I “spoke out” recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that “the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear.” And, in any case, “the truth shall out”.
>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.
>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301
>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…
Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/
He himself is some kind of “Holocaust Denier”, when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn’t mention any German suffering:
https://nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources “gassed millions of
Jews”?!
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:29:35 +1100, “Just JT”
>”Daeron”
>> As it happens, yes I am Australian so yes the drugs were intended for me
>> and my nation. But neither I nor my community want Nguyen to be executed
>> for trying to do this stupid and wicked thing for his brother.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~
>F*ck off and speak for yourself, bleeding heart lefty! I live am Australian
>and I AM HAPPY THAT THIS SCUMBAG DRUG CARRIER NGUYEN WILL PAY FOR HIS LIFE.
>Australia should REINTRODUCE the death penalty for heinous crimes such as
>DRUG TRAFFICKING.
>> And I see no reason that Singapore should have to pay for his imprisonment
>> either, just because it managed to pickup this person in transit whom the
>> Australian customs may or may not have caught. I think it is only fair
>> that
>> he be transported to Australia for Australia to pay the costs.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~
>F*CK OFF AGAIN. Our taxpayers’ money is better spent on PROTECTING and
>SUPPORTING LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS like you and me. These CRIMINALS SHOULD ALL
>DIE DIE DIE!!
>SINGAPORE, I SALUTE YOU FOR EXECUTING THIS DRUG CARRIER!!!
Singapore must be thanked for saving taxpayers in Australia many millions in
costs and maintenance of this garbage creature.
Send Singapore a good present for Chinese New Year 29 January.
Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags, as well as judges giving special
deals for multiple murderers!!
In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!
Tomorrow another drug dealer will get the Singapore Long Drop!!
HOORAY!!
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:34:37 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags, and multiple murderers!!
>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.
>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>of televising executions.
>A few more thoughts on the subject.
>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.
>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.
>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>but not limited to such, would include:
> AIDS spreaders
> rapists
> drug dealers
> home invaders
> armed robbers
> pederasts and similar child molesters
> crooked liars/lawyers
> corrupt judges
> corrupt politicians
> insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
> members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
> useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
> criminals being released
>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>any spreader of any disease,including STD – this would
> obviously include most faggots
>white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
> dollars (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
> how they would exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)
>More suggestions for both categories are invited.
>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:
> crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
> vivisection
> medical experiments without anaesthetic
> target practice for police and military
> beheading
> hanging
> barbecueing by electrocution
> drawing & quartering
> guillotining, very popular in France
> flaying alive until dead
> stoning to death – popular in some jurisdictions
>Suggestions are invited, on all the above points.
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
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“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
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“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
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acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
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then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
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even if he or she were not naked”?
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For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
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detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
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It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
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I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
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And also: George Firestone: “George”
Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
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of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.
Reply-To: “George”
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne”
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”
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Subject: Re: GEKO-Wer Hat $32 MILLIONEN fuer Plant in Edmonton Kanada,nach 3 Jahre? Geld Verschwunden?
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On TV, reporters are complaining about the fact that GEKO never did build the
facility in Edmonton, Canada, which was supposed to cost C$32 Million!!
Man muss wundern, wer hat $32 Millionen Geld, wenn es kein Plant gibt?
Ist $32 MILLIONEN verschwunden?
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:23:37 -0700, Ariadne
>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.
>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>From: Ken Levi
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?
>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, [email protected]
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt – Did GEKO pay the taxes
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year’s Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times – 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign…
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Subject: Re: Christian Girls Sold to ZYD Sex Slavery!! Repost
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don’t give a damn about girls of other
>confessions.
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.
>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>
>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.
>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish
>> >wrote:
>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest…….
>> >>From: Rameses
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:
>> >>”Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel’s
>> >>thriving sex industry.
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.
>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery”.
>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don’t
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)
>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant
>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576
>> together with
>> Boris Dynin
>> Henry
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.
>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473
>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]
>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.
>> Reply-To: “George”
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: Slavland for Slavs: My name is Piotr Glownia of clan Godziamba and I won’t colaborate with Aryans.
Organization: SPQR
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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!
In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS – such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, “captain.”
>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>wrote in message news:[email protected]…
>> In article
>>
>>>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]…
>>>> In article
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>”slavland for slavs” sounds like an amusement park.
>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.
>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way… Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.
>>>i don’t live in europe. but if i did i don’t think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.
>> LOL… Sl’owian’s’c’yzna is the Slavic word… It means “Slavic fortune”.
>> I’m sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia…
>slavic fortune and “slavland” are two different things . you claimed that
>”slavland” was a slavonic word. isn’t it time to admit that you may have
>made a mistake? 🙂
>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?
>hmmm, that’s a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other
>suitable “aryan” nation) and ask a few people. i’m sure that they would be
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.
>We won one war with Aryans… It doesn’t
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?
>sounds like you’re almost ready for some jihad action???
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From: panPiotrGlownia
Subject: Re: Brit anti-Gay Bigot Escapes Prosecution for Hate Literature – Repost
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Did he originate the true saying, that faggots are good only for incineration?
On 29 Sep 2006 18:39:34 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Brit anti-Gay Bigot Escapes Prosecution for Hate Literature
>
>Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn’t Fit
>
>The Independent – Sep 29, 2006
>http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article1771850.ece
>
>Christian Voice director escapes prosecution over anti-gay literature
>
>By Terry Kirby, Chief Reporter
>
>For some, he is a much-needed voice against an increasingly Godless
>society, representing the views of a significant but largely silent
>section of the population.
>
>But for a great many others, Stephen Green, the director of Christian
>Voice, is a solitary individual, unrepresentative of wider opinion and
>only given prominence by the willingness of the media to offer him a
>platform.
>
>Yesterday, Mr Green was in the public eye once again, after the Crown
>Prosecution Service decided not to prosecute him for breaching public
>order at a gay festival in Cardiff this month, when he handed out
>leaflets quoting the Bible as saying same-sex sex was a sin.
>
>Charges against Mr Green, 54, who lives in Carmarthenshire, of using
>threatening behaviour or insulting words, or behaviour likely to cause
>harassment, alarm or distress, were dropped at a pre-trial hearing in
>Cardiff because of insufficient evidence.
>
>Mr Green responded by calling the Minorities Support Unit officer who
>arrested him a “pompous ass” from a “politically correct” unit and
>threatening to sue the police.
>
>It is such battles that Mr Green relishes – they give him the opportunity
>to expound his uncompromising views, which include opposition to
>abortion, which he likens to the Holocaust, and homosexuality, the
>subject of his lengthy book, The Sexual Dead End.
>
>”We live in Godless society, in which secular humanism has won over
>residual Christianity,” he said.
>
>After many years as a fringe figure – most notably with the Conservative
>Family Campaign – Mr Green, a builder by trade, became full-time chairman
>of Christian Voice three years ago. Born in south London and raised as an
>Anglican, he says he is no longer a Conservative or an Anglican and now
>lives in west Wales, where he is a member of the local Pentecostal
>church.
>
>He came to prominence early last year when he campaigned against the
>BBC’s decision to broadcast the multi-award winning “Jerry Springer – The
>Opera”.
>
>Although his group is believed to have only a few hundred members – he
>will not say how many – they bombarded the BBC with letters and e-mails
>and placed the home addresses of senior executives on their website,
>causing a number to receive death threats.
>
>Subsequent campaigns and protests restricted a provincial tour of the
>show. He also persuaded Maggie’s Centres for cancer sufferers to turn
>down a #10,000 donation from the show after threatening to picket the
>charity. The BBC was later criticised for inviting Mr Green to appear on
>Question Time and revised its policy on his group.
>
>He has also campaigned, without success, against the Gay Police
>Association, particularly the participation of officers in gay pride
>marches, which led to his arrest in Cardiff. He wrote to all the
>country’s chief constables about the issue. All rejected his complaint
>and one, Terence Grange, the Chief Constable of Dyfed-Powys Police, wrote
>back: “As a lifelong practicing Catholic… I must advise you that I find
>your views morally offensive and totally reprehensible and I would be
>grateful if you would cease further communication.”
>
>Mr Green also protested against Wayne Rooney’s Nike adverts – condemned
>for “tasteless” use of Christian symbolism, a television documentary
>featuring anatomist Gunther von Hagens demonstrating the effects of a
>crucifixion, and the marriage of the Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker
>Bowles – on the basis that the latter was still married in the eyes of
>God.
>
>When Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, Mr Green declared it was
>”God’s wrath” and had brought “purity” to the city.
>
>While he has enjoyed some support from right-wing Christian groups and
>bodies such as Media-watchUK, the successor to Mary Whitehouse’s National
>Viewers and Listeners Association, mainstream churches have distanced
>themselves. A Church of England spokesman said they were “aware” of his
>activities, but would not be drawn further.
>
>Some, however, have been more forthright: the Rev Dr David Peel, the
>Moderator of the General Assembly of the United Reformed Church said
>Christian Voice was “a small, self-selecting group distinguished mainly
>by its absurd claim to represent Christians”. Bodies such as the National
>Secular Society and the British Humanist Association have also criticised
>Mr Green for being unrepresentative. “I think the media have given him an
>authority that he doesn’t deserve,” said Terry Sanderson, of the NSS.
>
>Surprisingly, Mr Green agrees: “There is absolutely no reason why I
>should have any prominence at all,” he says, adding: “But things have a
>habit of capturing the public imagination.”
>
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Subject: Re: Slavland for Slavs: My name is Piotr Glownia of clan Godziamba and I won’t colaborate with Aryans.
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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!
In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS – such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, “captain.”
>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>wrote in message news:[email protected]…
>> In article
>>
>>>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]…
>>>> In article
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>”slavland for slavs” sounds like an amusement park.
>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.
>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way… Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.
>>>i don’t live in europe. but if i did i don’t think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.
>> LOL… Sl’owian’s’c’yzna is the Slavic word… It means “Slavic fortune”.
>> I’m sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia…
>slavic fortune and “slavland” are two different things . you claimed that
>”slavland” was a slavonic word. isn’t it time to admit that you may have
>made a mistake? 🙂
>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?
>hmmm, that’s a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other
>suitable “aryan” nation) and ask a few people. i’m sure that they would be
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.
>We won one war with Aryans… It doesn’t
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?
>sounds like you’re almost ready for some jihad action???
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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!
In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS – such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, “captain.”
>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>wrote in message news:[email protected]…
>> In article
>>
>>>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]…
>>>> In article
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>”slavland for slavs” sounds like an amusement park.
>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.
>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way… Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.
>>>i don’t live in europe. but if i did i don’t think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.
>> LOL… Sl’owian’s’c’yzna is the Slavic word… It means “Slavic fortune”.
>> I’m sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia…
>slavic fortune and “slavland” are two different things . you claimed that
>”slavland” was a slavonic word. isn’t it time to admit that you may have
>made a mistake? 🙂
>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?
>hmmm, that’s a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other
>suitable “aryan” nation) and ask a few people. i’m sure that they would be
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.
>We won one war with Aryans… It doesn’t
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?
>sounds like you’re almost ready for some jihad action???
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Subject: Re: Selling Slave-Sex in Israel- Filthy ZYDS – Repost
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne”
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, “Godzilla Pimp”
>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1
>”German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a “holocaust”.”
>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it,
>among other cities like Hamburg.
>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course,
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb
>”goyim” (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes,
>Christianity being the most notable one.
>GP
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Subject: Re:War GEKO Vor Der Pleite? Latest News!! GEKO-Who Is Pocketing $32 MILLION??
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In a banner headline story on page B2 of the Edmonton Journal for Thursday 19
October 2006, it states that GEKO was bought by a Canadian business GEEP Inc,
based in Barrie Canada.
GEEP is building the computer recycling plant in Edmonton Canada, at a cost of
only C$10 million, which should open in March 2007. This replaces the alleged
$32 million plant that GEKO claimed it would build, following their press
announcement years ago!!
Wallace MacKay of GEEP claims to have bought GEKO. GEKO claimed to be
able to recycle computers, but MacKay asserts that GEKO never had expertise
to recycle electronics.
GEEP (Global Electric Electronic Processing) is part of Barrie Metals Group.
So, the question is, war GEKO vor der Pleite, in other words did GEKO go belly
up? What happened to the 32 Million?
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:30:28 GMT, panPiotrGlownia
>Nochmal fragen –
>Wenn es wirklich kein Plant in Kanada gibt, dann wer hat die 32
>MILLIONEN? Ist GEKO dann kaput?
>
>Kann Bundesfinanzamt erklaeren?
>>On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:04:45 GMT, Asterix
>>
>>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:58:34 -0600, Chief Instigator
>>>
>>
>>>>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today 15 August 2005,
>>>>the report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT
>>>>EVEN THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE
>>>>COMPUTER RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>>>
>>>>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>>>>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>>>>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>>>>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>>>>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>>>>interests of the public, and charities.
>>>
>>>>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>>>>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>>>
>>>Bis jetzt, keine Plant!!
>>>Wo ist 32 Millionen?
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Ken Levi
>>>>Newsgroups:
>>>>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>>>>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>>>>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>>>>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>>>
>>>>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>>>>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>>>>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>>>>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>>>
>>>>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>>>>from Germany?
>>>
>>>>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>>>>disappearance of this money from their control?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, [email protected]
>>>>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>>>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>>>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>>>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>>>>
>>>>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>>>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>>>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>>>>
>>>>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt – Did GEKO pay the taxes
>>>>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>>>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>>>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the
>>>>>local garbage dump.
>>>>
>>>>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>>>>
>>>>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in
>>>>>business in a nearby town.
>>>>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and
>>>>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>>>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>>>>
>>>>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor
>>>>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>>>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>>>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
>>>>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>>>>
>>>>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>>>>to attend this year’s Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>>>>
>>>>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>>>>
>>>>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>>>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>>>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>>>>
>>>>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>>>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>>>>as well as City Hall.
>>>>
>>>>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>>>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>>>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare dump of
>>>>>Deadmonton.
>>>>
>>>>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>>>>Edmonton Journal 3 times – 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>>>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>>>>
>>>>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>>>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>>>>
>>>>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>>>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>>>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>>>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>>>>
>>>>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>>>>
>>>>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>>>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>>>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>>>>
>>>>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar
>>>>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over
>>>>>Canada and the USA!!
>>>>
>>>>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>>>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>>>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign…
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Subject: Re: Christian Girls Sold to ZYD Sex Slavery!! Repost
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don’t give a damn about girls of other
>confessions.
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.
>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>
>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.
>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish
>> >wrote:
>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest…….
>> >>From: Rameses
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:
>> >>”Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel’s
>> >>thriving sex industry.
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.
>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery”.
>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don’t
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)
>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant
>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576
>> together with
>> Boris Dynin
>> Henry
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.
>> “I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>> proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>> Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked”?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>> send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473
>> Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR – www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>> Subscribe: [email protected]
>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.
>> Reply-To: “George”
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If she/it wasn’t so repulsive, the pictures would be laughable…
On 3 Sep 2006 18:23:16 -0000, [email protected]
wrote:
>These are the best pictures I can find of me, LOL…
>Spouting Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/apzwp
>Isn’t ‘Ariadne’ the literal for (female) “spawn of Satan?”
>The “spawn” on her treadmill… http://tinyurl.com/qomwc
>This is one from when she was up on a midnight run to the
>refridgerator:
>http://tinyurl.com/rxum3
>Arid-Asshole at a ladies only Sumo Swim-Meet in Sheffield:
>http://tinyurl.com/p2zbq
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>Reply-To: “George”
>or to [email protected], or [email protected]
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>
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Subject: Re: War GEKO Vor Der Pleite? Latest News!! GEKO-Who Is Pocketing $32 MILLION??
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Man muss wundern, was ist mit GEKO, und 32 Millionen, geschehen?
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:29:28 GMT, panPiotrGlownia
>In a banner headline story on page B2 of the Edmonton Journal for Thursday 19
>October 2006, it states that GEKO was bought by a Canadian business GEEP Inc,
>based in Barrie Canada.
>GEEP is building the computer recycling plant in Edmonton Canada, at a cost of
>only C$10 million, which should open in March 2007. This replaces the alleged
>$32 million plant that GEKO claimed it would build, following their press
>announcement years ago!!
>Wallace MacKay of GEEP claims to have bought GEKO. GEKO claimed to be
>able to recycle computers, but MacKay asserts that GEKO never had expertise
>to recycle electronics.
>GEEP (Global Electric Electronic Processing) is part of Barrie Metals Group.
>So, the question is, war GEKO vor der Pleite, in other words did GEKO go belly
>up? What happened to the 32 Million?
>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:30:28 GMT, panPiotrGlownia
>
>>Nochmal fragen –
>>Wenn es wirklich kein Plant in Kanada gibt, dann wer hat die 32
>>MILLIONEN? Ist GEKO dann kaput?
>>
>>Kann Bundesfinanzamt erklaeren?
>
>>>On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:04:45 GMT, Asterix
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:58:34 -0600, Chief Instigator
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today 15 August 2005,
>>>>>the report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT
>>>>>EVEN THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE
>>>>>COMPUTER RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>>>>
>>>>>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>>>>>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>>>>>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>>>>>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>>>>>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>>>>>interests of the public, and charities.
>>>>
>>>>>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>>>>>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>>>>
>>>>Bis jetzt, keine Plant!!
>>>>Wo ist 32 Millionen?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: Ken Levi
>>>>>Newsgroups:
>>>>>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>>>>>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>>>>>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>>>>>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>>>>
>>>>>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>>>>>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>>>>>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>>>>>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>>>>
>>>>>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>>>>>from Germany?
>>>>
>>>>>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>>>>>disappearance of this money from their control?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, [email protected]
>>>>>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>>>>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>>>>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>>>>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>>>>>
>>>>>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>>>>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>>>>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt – Did GEKO pay the taxes
>>>>>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>>>>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>>>>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the
>>>>>>local garbage dump.
>>>>>
>>>>>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>>>>>
>>>>>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in
>>>>>>business in a nearby town.
>>>>>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and
>>>>>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>>>>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor
>>>>>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>>>>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>>>>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
>>>>>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>>>>>
>>>>>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>>>>>to attend this year’s Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>>>>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>>>>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>>>>>
>>>>>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>>>>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>>>>>as well as City Hall.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>>>>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>>>>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare dump of
>>>>>>Deadmonton.
>>>>>
>>>>>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>>>>>Edmonton Journal 3 times – 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>>>>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>>>>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>>>>>
>>>>>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>>>>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>>>>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>>>>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>>>>>
>>>>>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>>>>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>>>>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar
>>>>>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over
>>>>>>Canada and the USA!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>>>>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>>>>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign…
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Subject: Re: GEKO-Wer Hat $32 MILLIONEN fuer Plant in Edmonton Kanada,nach 3 Jahre? Geld Verschwunden?
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On TV, reporters are complaining about the fact that GEKO never did build the
facility in Edmonton, Canada, which was supposed to cost C$32 Million!!
Man muss wundern, wer hat $32 Millionen Geld, wenn es kein Plant gibt?
Ist $32 MILLIONEN verschwunden?
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:23:37 -0700, Ariadne
>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!
>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.
>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.
>From: Ken Levi
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700
>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??
>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?
>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, [email protected]
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt – Did GEKO pay the taxes
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <[email protected]>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year’s Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times – 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign…
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From: DeziCohen
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Subject: Re: Slavland for Slavs: My name is Piotr Glownia of clan Godziamba and I won’t colaborate with Aryans.
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The ZYD slav posting from Sweden has not a clue about what he writes!!
Why the Swedish government allowed this parasite to reside there is presently
unknown, but if enough complaints are filed with Stockholm, perhaps they will
then deport him back to his clan hovel!!
In WWII, so many prominente ZYDS COLLABORATED WITH THE NAZIS – such as
KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL plus at least another 50 senior ZYDS!!
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:57:43 GMT, “captain.”
>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>wrote in message news:[email protected]…
>> In article
>>
>>>”pan Piotr Glownia”
>>>wrote in message news:[email protected]…
>>>> In article
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>”slavland for slavs” sounds like an amusement park.
>>>> For you yes. For us Slavs no.
>>>> We Slavs will show you Aryans how to exit our home quite soon enough.
>>>> And by the way… Slavland is the name of Europe in Slavic. So you
>>>> better start learning how to swim too.
>>>i don’t live in europe. but if i did i don’t think i would be very
>>>intimidated by the above statement.
>>>also, i am doubtful that slavland is indeed a slavonic word. i would need
>>>confirmation from someone other than you to accept it.
>> LOL… Sl’owian’s’c’yzna is the Slavic word… It means “Slavic fortune”.
>> I’m sure they wrote something about it on wikipedia…
>slavic fortune and “slavland” are two different things . you claimed that
>”slavland” was a slavonic word. isn’t it time to admit that you may have
>made a mistake? 🙂
>> Why should you feel intimidated? Is Slavic unity and Slavic brotherhood
>> so intimidating for the Aryan race?
>hmmm, that’s a good question. maybe you should go to germany (or other
>suitable “aryan” nation) and ask a few people. i’m sure that they would be
>more than delighted to discuss it with you.
>We won one war with Aryans… It doesn’t
>> mean we will win the next one too. So why intimidating?
>sounds like you’re almost ready for some jihad action???
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Subject: Re: Dresden, a Real Holocaust – Repost
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, “Godzilla Pimp”
>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1
>”German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a “holocaust”.”
>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it,
>among other cities like Hamburg.
>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course,
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb
>”goyim” (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes,
>Christianity being the most notable one.
>GP
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Subject: Re: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis – Not Just KASTNER CASE!!
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PRAWDA!
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>isolated incident!!
>
>
>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>
>>September 2004, page 86
>>
>>Book Review
>>
>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>$15.
>>
>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>new Jewish nation.
>>
>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>glossary and index.
>>
>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>same concept.
>>
>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>threatened European brethren.
>>
>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>18, 1943:
>>
>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>“No!” And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>
>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>
>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>
>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>
>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>
>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>examining Zionism.
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne”
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”
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With even the Soviets forced to admit that it was their ZYD NKVD who did the
murders at KATYN, why are you apologising for them?
Historians and experts proved it was NOT the Germans!
Were you one of the killers, or perhaps your father, uncle or?
On Sat, 8 Jul 2006 11:54:59 -0700, “Peter Wielki”
>Actually, in Katyn there were Russians and Ukraninians that did the crime,
>as far as I know.
>
>But yeah, let’s blame it on JEWS!!! Germans did it too, right Frankie?
>”Frank Arthur”
>news:[email protected]…
>> True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!
>>
>> The filthy ZYDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.
>>
>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.
>>
>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!
>>
>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles
>>
>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)
>>
>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary of
>> the
>> discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in
>> realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to
>> slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single
>> shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1,
>> 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had
>> been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated to
>> The
>> Final Solution, which had not yet begun.
>>
>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a
>> year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis, who
>> invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely used
>> the
>> word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler learned,
>> as
>> dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers from a
>> single
>> narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide: its intent was
>> to
>> eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its perceived
>> guardians.
>>
>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the
>> exiled Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside
>> Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers. A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.
>>
>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget
>> Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.
>>
>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and
>> the terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the
>> truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most
>> pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship
>> between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.
>>
>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding
>> him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his future murder
>> victims.
>> And when Stalin jested that they should settle the German problem once and
>> for
>> all by killing 50,000 German officers, Churchill merely protested sulkily,
>> and
>> Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing only 49,000.
>>
>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by
>> which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three knew
>> of
>> the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently, all
>> three –
>> two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to those lies.
>>
>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five
>> years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn: once
>> Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with almost
>> anything.
>>
>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn into
>> the
>> diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan Government
>> in
>> the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a memorial in London to the
>> victims of Katyn.
>>
>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of
>> which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians
>> –
>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this
>> must have had on Kremlin thinking?
>>
>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of
>> a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city,
>> the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.
>>
>>
>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>
>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>
>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.
>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.
>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>
>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.
>>
>> ISRAEL REFUSED TO PROSECUTE THESAE ZHID MURDERERS!!
>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.
>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.
>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews/ZHIDS isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.
>>
>> ++++++++++++++
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> First,let us kill all the lawyers! – W.Shakespeare
>> First, we get rid of all the politicians! – Mao tse Dung
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!!
>> Me
>>
>> “At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act.”
>> (George Orwell)
>>
>> David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>>
>> “All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>
>> “The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>>
>> “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore.”
>> –John Bryant
>>
>>
>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit www.freedomsite.org
>>
>> Newsgroups:
>> pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.lodz,pl.regionalne.warszawa,soc.culture.polish,alt.politics.europe
>> Subject: KATYN=MURDERS BY ZHIDS/SOVIET NKVD!!! True,Just Like Vinnitsa!!
>>
>> The filthy ZHIDS can no longer lie about KATYN and try to blame the
>> Germans.
>>
>> Even the Soviets had to admit the truth, and also about Vinnitsa.
>>
>> No wonder around the world more and more people are starting to really
>> dislike the filthy ZHIDS!!
>>
>>
>> Latest update follows:
>> From: “Strider”
>> Newsgroups:
>> soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.yugoslavia
>> Subject: Jewish Copmmissars murdered these Poles
>>
>> Our shame still lies in the Katyn forest
>> By Kevin Myers
>> (Filed: 27/04/2003)
>>
>>
>> Today Poles all over the world will commemorate the 60th anniversary
>> of the discovery of the war crime which didn’t occur. And the
>> non-existence of this atrocity constituted democracy’s most sordid
>> exercise in
>> realpolitik of the entire 20th century. The Soviet Union captured 180,000
>> Polish soldiers during its invasion of Poland in 1939. Most were herded
>> off to
>> slave-camps in Siberia, but 22,000 officers were not. In April 1940, on
>> Stalin’s orders, each was bound with barbed wire and executed with a
>> single
>> shot to the head.
>>
>> This was a colossal undertaking: the death toll was greater than that
>> on the most calamitous day in British military history – the Somme, July
>> 1,
>> 1916.
>> More importantly, the massacres occurred before the German invasions
>> of France and the Low Countries. And although hundreds of Jews in Poland
>> had been murdered, these were improvised butcheries, essentially unrelated
>> to The Final Solution, which had not yet begun.
>>
>> So the first systematic mass murder of defenceless innocents in the
>> Second World War was not by the Nazis, but by the Soviet Union, just over
>> a
>> year before the USSR became Britain’s official best friend. This shouldn’t
>> surprise us: after all, it had been the Soviets, and not the Nazis,
>> who invented industrialised murder. From the revolution on, they freely
>> used the word “exterminate” of their enemies. Hitler listened; and Hitler
>> learned, as dictators do. Moreover, the careful murder of so many officers
>> from a single narrow stratum of Polish society was truly proto-genocide:
>> its
>> intent was to eliminate Polish identity by the extermination of all its
>> perceived guardians.
>>
>> In 1943, via two sources – through a population census within the exiled
>> Polish community living in the USSR, and from the Germans, who had
>> discovered the site of one of the massacres, in the woods of Katyn,
>> outside Smolensk – the British discovered the fate of the Polish officers.
>> A
>> devastating report from the British ambassador to the Polish
>> government-in-exile, Owen O’Malley, left no doubt about the matter.
>>
>> The British Government’s public response was to dismiss the Nazi
>> discoveries as propaganda and tell the Polish government-in-exile to
>> forget
>> Katyn and to proceed with beating the real enemy, Germany.
>>
>> War is war, and in peace it is impossible to replicate the fevers and the
>> terrors it induces. So no useful moral judgment can be made about
>> those who decided in 1943 publicly to accept lies as fact, and to conceal
>> the
>> truth as regrettable but necessary strategy. But it was statecraft at its
>> most
>> pusillanimous to allow those lies to become a cornerstone of the
>> relationship between the Western allies and the Soviet Union.
>>
>> That is what happened when the three leaders – Churchill, Roosevelt
>> and Stalin – met at Teheran in November 1943. Far from berating the Soviet
>> Leader for the massacres, the two democratic leaders propitiated him,
>> awarding him the Polish land he had stolen even as he seized his
>> future murder victims. And when Stalin jested that they should settle the
>> German problem once and for all by killing 50,000 German officers,
>> Churchill
>> merely protested sulkily, and Roosevelt light-heartedly suggested killing
>> only 49,000.
>>
>> But nobody mentioned Katyn. How was this possible? For the massacre of
>> the Poles was surely the secret subtext to this grisly exchange, and one
>> by which Stalin was taking the measure of his two confreres. All three
>> knew of the murders, and the bodyguard of lies around them: and silently,
>> all
>> three – two of them abjectly, the third triumphantly – assented to
>> those lies.
>>
>> Teheran was the true nadir of international diplomacy, morally far
>> more ignoble and strategically far more catastrophic than either Munich
>> five years before or Yalta a year later. And the key to Teheran was Katyn:
>> once Stalin had got away with that, he realised he could get away with
>> almost anything.
>>
>> Moreover, the fiction of Katyn took root within the Foreign Office.
>> There, nourished on complicit cowardice and malformed in the darkness of
>> pathological guilt, the temporary tactic of 1943 was in time to turn
>> into the diseased plant of enduring policy. It even caused the Callaghan
>> Government in the 1970s vehemently to oppose the erection of a
>> memorial in London to the victims of Katyn.
>>
>> Denial, in its purest psychiatric sense, of Katyn also infused much
>> consideration of the 20th century: how else could Roy Jenkins have
>> written a life of Churchill without once referring to Katyn, the Great Lie
>> of
>> which the prime minister was prime mover? How else could so many
>> historians
>> –
>> Norman Davies aside – simply ignore the extraordinary Western
>> collusion in covering up communist atrocities, and the profound impact
>> this
>> must have had on Kremlin thinking?
>>
>> On Thursday the FCO publishes a report, British reactions to the Katyn
>> Massacre, in a belated attempt at expiation for Britain’s repeated
>> cover-ups of this terrible affair. But it cannot undo the evil of the
>> extermination of the Polish officer corps which, far from being the
>> subject of
>> a war-crimes trial, was embraced and rewarded at Teheran; and from that
>> city,
>> the communism of Katyn was soon to march forth and conquer half the world.
>>
>> My thanks to you for reposting this article.
>> A brilliant truthful piece.
>> Ed Kadach
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> >>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>
>>> >>>>Katyn
>>> >>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>
>>> >>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>> >>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>> >>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>> >>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>> >>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>> >>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>> >>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>> >>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>> >>>>during the Second World War.
>>
>>> >>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>> >>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>> >>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>> >>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>> >>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>> >>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>> >>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>> >>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>> >>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>
>>> >>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>> >>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>> >>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>> >>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>> >>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>
>>> >>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>> >>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>> >>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>> >>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>> >>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>> >>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>> >>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>
>>> >>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>> >>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>> >>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>> >>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>> >>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>> >>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>> >>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>> >>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>> >>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>> >>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>> >>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>> >>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>> >>>>of Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>> >>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>> >>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>> >>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>> >>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>> >>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>> >>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>> >>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>> >>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>> >>>>in 1940.
>>
>>> >>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>> >>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>> >>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>> >>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>> >>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>> >>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>> >>>>along the River Bug.
>>
>>> >>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>> >>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>> >>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>> >>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>> >>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>> >>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>> >>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>> >>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>> >>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>> >>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>> >>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>> >>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>> >>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>> >>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>> >>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>> >>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>> >>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>> >>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>> >>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>> >>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>> >>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>> >>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>> >>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>
>>> >>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>> >>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>> >>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>> >>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>> >>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>> >>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>> >>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>> >>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>> >>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>> >>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>> >>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>
>>> >>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>> >>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>> >>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>> >>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>> >>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>> >>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>> >>>>Russia.
>>
>>> >>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>> >>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>> >>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>> >>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>> >>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>> >>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>> >>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>> >>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>> >>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>> >>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>> >>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>> >>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>> >>>>FBI.
>>
>>> >>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>> >>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>> >>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>> >>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>> >>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>> >>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>> >>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>> >>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>> >>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>> >>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>> >>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>> >>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>> >>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>> >>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>> >>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>> >>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>> >>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>> >>>>of them did.
>>
>>> >>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>> >>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>> >>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>> >>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>> >>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>> >>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>> >>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>> >>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>> >>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>> >>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>> >>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>> >>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>
>>> >>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>> >>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>> >>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>> >>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>> >>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>> >>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>> >>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>> >>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>> >>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>> >>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>> >>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>> >>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>> >>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>> >>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>
>>> >>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>> >>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>> >>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>> >>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>> >>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>> >>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>> >>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>> >>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>> >>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>> >>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>> >>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>> >>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>> >>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>> >>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>> >>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>> >>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>> >>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>> >>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>> >>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>> >>>>killings.
>>
>>> >>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>> >>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>> >>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>> >>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>> >>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>> >>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>> >>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>> >>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>> >>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>> >>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>> >>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>> >>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>> >>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>> >>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>> >>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>> >>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>
>>> >>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>> >>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>> >>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>> >>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>> >>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>> >>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>> >>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>> >>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>> >>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>> >>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>> >>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>> >>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>> >>>>back to their governments.
>>
>>> >>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>> >>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>> >>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>> >>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>> >>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>> >>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>> >>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>
>>> >>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>> >>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>> >>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>> >>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>> >>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>> >>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>> >>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>> >>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>> >>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>> >>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>> >>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>> >>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>> >>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>
>>> >>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>> >>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>> >>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>> >>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>> >>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>> >>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>> >>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>> >>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>> >>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>> >>>>decided.
>>
>>> >>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>> >>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>> >>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>> >>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>> >>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>> >>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>> >>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>> >>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>> >>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>> >>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>> >>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>> >>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>> >>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>
>>> >>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>> >>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>> >>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>> >>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>> >>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>> >>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>> >>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>> >>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>> >>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>> >>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>> >>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>> >>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>> >>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>> >>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>> >>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>> >>>>feeling.
>>
>>> >>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn’t surprising. What is
>>> >>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>> >>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>> >>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>> >>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>> >>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>> >>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>> >>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>> >>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>> >>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>
>>> >>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>> >>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>> >>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>> >>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>
>>> >>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>> >>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>> >>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>> >>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.
>>
>>> >>>>++++++++++++++
>>
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>>> >>>>http://www.amren.com
>>
>>> >>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>> >>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>
>>> >>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>> >>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>
>>> >>>>Katja Lane’s Fourteen Word Press
>>> >>>>http://www.14words.com
>>
>>> >>>>National Alliance
>>> >>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>
>>> >>>>Stormfront
>>> >>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>
>>> >>>>Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library
>>> >>>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>>
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>>
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>>
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On Sun, 20 August 2006 08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:
This is more than true, if you read the book “OTHER LOSSES” by
Bacque!
It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.
Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!
>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, “Schorsch”
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> Schorsch
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe
>>> Was there some point you wished to make?
>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…
>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike’s Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest…….
>>>From: [email protected] (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: “Ike”‘s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF “IKE’S DEATH CAMPS”
>>>By Martin Brech
>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in ‘the land of the free’?”
>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>”Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect… Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks…One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald…The book blames Eisenhower. ‘The German is a beast,’
>>>Ike had written…But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly…It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton…Ignoring the book is not enough.”
>>>Pat Buchanan’s courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the “banality of evil”,
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.
>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the “Battle of
>>>the Bulge”, my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a “repo depo” (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.
>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.
>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.
>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.
>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.
>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from “higher up”. No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term “war criminal” was just beginning to come into fashion.
>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners’ food, and that these orders came from “higher up”. But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.
>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the “offense”, and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, “Why?” he mumbled,
>>>”Target practice,” and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn’t tell if any
>>>had been hit.
>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.
>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of “my country, right or wrong, my country,” which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.
>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.
>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. “Yankee
>>>traders” were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.
>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the “graveyard shift”, from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn’t bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.
>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn’t
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.
>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.
>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing — both felt a
>>>touch of spring.
>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed “mystical”. However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)
>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).
>>>However, on this day we were happy.
>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly ‘broke the ice’, and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German (“Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen”). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>”Eisenhower jacket” so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.
>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.
>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow ‘killing fields’.
>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were “camp followers”, selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn’t think
>>>they deserved our treatment.
>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a “fancy Nazi
>>>medal”, which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him “off
>>>her back”, but I didn’t think one of our ‘death camps’ was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his “dirty work”.
>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible — that is, when they weren’t chased
>>>away.
>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by “displaced persons”
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.
>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the “contraband”
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.
>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more “available”, but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was “just friends”
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.
>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies’ atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government’ s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.
>>>I realized it’s difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to “talk” because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I “spoke out” recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that “the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear.” And, in any case, “the truth shall out”.
>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.
>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301
>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article…
Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/
He himself is some kind of “Holocaust Denier”, when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn’t mention any German suffering:
https://nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources “gassed millions of
Jews”?!
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431
As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.
“I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked”?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.
Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late nights.
Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
work:(780)492-0473
Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne”
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne”
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”
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On 27 Nov 2005 16:19:47 -0800, “Ariadne”
>Jason P wrote:
>> By Paula Amann
>> Washington Jewish Week/Jewsweek – 2001
>> http://www.jewsweek.com/society/059.htm
>> They come to Israel from the Ukraine, Russia, and Moldova looking for
>> freedom. Instead they are sold as sex slaves. And you thought Israel
>> was holy.
>> Jewsweek.com | Their names are Natalya, Oxana or Svetlana. They come to
>> Israel, as immigrants do, for a better life. But their dreams of
>> working as a waitress, nurse, or au pair turn nightmarish upon their
>> arrival.
>> Their fellow countryman who met them at the airport, speaking the
>> language of home, takes them to a locked apartment with barred windows
>> and a phone that only takes incoming calls, where they are forced to
>> provide sexual services to strangers.
>> Those who rebel risk being raped, beaten, or starved. Even those who
>> knew they were going into prostitution are shocked by the stark
>> conditions, the pay of roughly 20 shekalim ($5) a day or less for their
>> labor.
>> This disturbing story unfolds all too often at the hotline for Migrant
>> Workers, a Tel Aviv agency founded in 1998 to protect the human rights
>> of foreign workers, victims of sex trafficking among them. The hotline
>> takes as its motto the familiar line from Exodus 22:20: “You shall not
>> wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of
>> Egypt.”
>> Agency director and co-founder Sigal Rozen, along with the group’s
>> counsel, Nomi Levenkron, were in Washington, D.C., last week to give a
>> lecture at the Johns Hopkins Nitze School of Advanced International
>> Studies, to network and to speak with supporters. Among them are the
>> New Israel Fund, which has given the hotline a total of $19,000 during
>> the past year and a half.
>> In an interview, Rozen called sex trafficking an “unorganized crime,”
>> based largely on personal networks of immigrants from the Ukraine,
>> Russia, and Moldova.
>> “… “It’s easier being a trafficker than being a plumber …” –Nomi
>> Levenkron
>> Those three countries alone accounted for 91 percent of the 474 women
>> arrested in brothels and deported from Israel in 2000, according to
>> figures compiled by hotline volunteers during visits to the Neveh
>> Tirzah women’s prison.
>> These statistics represent only a fraction of the problem. Police
>> spokespersons have set the number of women brought into the country to
>> work in the sex industry at 2,000-3,000 annually, the number of
>> brothels at 250, Rozen said.
>> “It’s Misha that knows Sasha that knows Vladimir,” added Levenkron,
>> noting the economic incentive to be a pimp or work with one. “It’s
>> easier being a trafficker than being a plumber.”
>> One day she got a phone call from a rape crisis center where a woman
>> pleaded to be arrested and deported.
>> This young Moldovian had twice tried to escape her pimp and at 18, was
>> burned out on prostitution and just wanted to go home.
>> “She’s so young and sweet,” reflected Levenkron. “She came to Israel to
>> be a waitress.”
>> A year ago this month, Israel passed the Law Against Trafficking Women.
>> Before that time, other laws existed against soliciting, pimping, and
>> running brothels.
>> Yet hotline staff point out that few pimps involved in trafficking ever
>> face a judge, with the majority of prostitutes deported without ever
>> facing a trial that might involve their testimony against their pimps.
>> Out of 459 women deported in 1998, only 35 cases went to trial; out of
>> 253 in 1999, a scant five ended up in the courtroom.
>> Judicial indifference is compounded by police complicity, Levenkron
>> argued.
>> The 18-year-old Moldovian, it turned out, had at one point in her
>> misadventures, found herself in a Tel Aviv police station where some of
>> the officers, who were her clients, recognized her and moved to call
>> her pimp.
>> Overhearing their plans, the woman fled and moved in with a
>> client-turned-boyfriend.
>> But somehow the pimp found her again, threatened the boyfriend. The
>> young woman, with no place to go, went back to the brothel. Now the
>> case hangs in the courts, where Levenkron has faint hopes for a
>> positive outcome.
>> The police role in such trafficking ranges from casual to highly
>> serious, she alleged.
>> “There are police who just come as clients, those who get special
>> discounts because of their good relationships with the owner of the
>> place and those that inform the owner about police operations,”
>> explained Levenkron.
>> One young Beersheva prostitute told the attorney she was forced to work
>> seven days a week unless a police raid was expected.
>> Widespread fear of violence from pimps has muted the public outcry, say
>> hotline staff. When Levenkron filed a suit on behalf of a
>> Beersheva-based woman, a 20-year-old Moldovian who had survived six
>> pimps and multiple rapes, several of the lawyer’s friends came to her
>> home to bid her a final farewell, in anticipation of her imminent
>> death, she said.
>> INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM
>> Worldwide, trafficking in persons for domestic service, forced labor,
>> and prostitution ranks third after drugs and guns among the activities
>> of international crime, according to a congressional service report
>> released May 10, 2000. For comparison, about 50,000 people are brought
>> to the United States annually, the report stated.
>> The rise in trafficking seen over the 1990s was fueled by feeble
>> economies in source countries, such as the former Soviet Union and
>> Southeast Asia, along with weak penalties for traffickers, said a
>> government official familiar with these issues.
>> Last October, the United States passed its own law addressing this
>> problem, the Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act, which
>> calls on the State Department to report annually on the scope of
>> trafficking in various countries and measures taken to combat it. The
>> report was due for release on June 1, but its publication has been
>> delayed.
>> In Israel today, official policy on trafficking is to arrest and deport
>> foreign sex workers. The women are held for an average of 30 days under
>> crowded and sometimes harsh conditions, longer if they testify in court
>> against their pimps, according to hotline data.
>> Rozen and Levenkron take issue with this approach. “Deporting women
>> doesn’t make things better,” said Levenkron. “I’m tired of shouting
>> this all over Israel so I’ve come here [to the United States] to shout
>> about it.”
>> Rozen contends that a one-year work permit in specified fields such as
>> home health care or child care, before their return home, would put the
>> former prostitutes in a stronger position to take care of themselves.
>> Gruesome albeit unsubstantiated stories abound, she says, about revenge
>> attacks on returning women and their families by the original
>> trafficker in the home country.
>> A nest egg from a year’s legitimate work, Rozen suggests, would allow
>> victims to re-establish themselves in a new community and stay out of
>> the clutches of traffickers in the future.
>> Meanwhile, Levenkron is seeking professional back-up in her job
>> representing the victims of trafficking.
>> “I am the [hotline] legal department,” laments Levenkron. “We need
>> lawyers and we need public awareness.”
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This is a repost of an extremely important article, documenting the deliberate
collaboration of the Zionists, with the nazis.
From: The Truth Seeker
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)
51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
By Lenni Brenner
Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.
Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.
These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.
These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.
They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.
The Truth Seeker has spoken.
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB
>Reply-To: “George”
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>
>>>September 2004, page 86
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation.
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept.
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
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>
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>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: “George”
>
>Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
> Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
> Subscribe: [email protected]
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: “George”
>
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:31:38 -0500, FLDENGR
>When will you dick heads in Edmonton give it up and realise that
It is very interesting, that the Canadian Legion are now complaining about the
white poppy campaign for PEACE.
Notice they did NOT complain about the former liberal government designating a
separate day for the ZYD HOLOHOAX DAY!!
If the legion are so concerned about Remembrance Day, why no protest about the
separate day just for the ZYDS?
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:52:57 -0700, Felix Dzerzhinsky
wrote:
Header asks a very relevant question, especially now that there are at least
52 well-documented cases of ZHID COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS,
not forgetting the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is exposed as a Nazi GESTAPO
COLLABORATOR!!
Why a special day, paid by taxpayers, just for the Christkiller ZHIDS?
>On 1 Feb 2005 03:38:19 -0000, Hans Wapnigg
>>From: Nemo
>>Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.british,aus.politics
>>Subject: Holocaust Memorial Day Should Include Victims Of All Holocausts Of 20th Century–Not Just Jews
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 05:42:23 MST (pd7tw1no)
>>This day of commiseration should not be limited only to the victims of
>>the Jewish Holocaust perpetrated by European socialists (Nazis and
>>Commies) and their sympathizers during World War II.
>>It should be in sympathy for the tens of millions of victims of
>>Lenin and Stalin in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. For example,
>>the massacre of the Kulaks in Ukraine and Russia. The massacre of Polish
>>officers at Katyn by Stalin’s Soviet troops which the Commies tried to
>>blame this on their socialist cousins, Hitler’s Nazis.
>>The 1 million Armenians massacred by the Turks is also a holocaust that
>>should be commemorated. Then there is the tens of millions of Chinese
>>murdered by Mao in his “Great Leap Forward” and “Cultural Revolution”.
>>The genocides by Pol Pot in Cambodia and Mengistu in Ethiopia should
>>also be remembered. And let us not forget the horrible genocide in
>>Ruwanda in the the 1990s in which over 900,000 perished.
>>The fact is that during the 20th century more than 100 million people
>>were murdered by socialists (Commies, Nazis). The six million Jews
>>killed by the Nazis and Communists during WW II are only a fraction
>>(less than 10%) of the total number of victims of the bloodiest century
>>in world history.
>>Notice that disgusting dying AIDS-spreader pervert Ken McVay, refuses to
>>discuss the SUBJECT of the article, because his JEW masters do not
>>want all the sheeple in Canada to start to THINK!!
>>None of the other groups of victims in Canada,or in Europe have received the
>>same treatment, just the cursed JEWS!!
>>The Acadians of Canada did not get similar treatment from the Jew-controlled
>>government.
>>All the aboriginals murdered by the whites in Canada and USA, and Australia,
>>get no such treatment.
>>All the Ukrainians kept in concentration camps IN CANADA got no such
>>recognition, let alone all the many millions killed by the
>>JEW-controlled Soviets!!
>>There are many groups of people in Canada, and Australia, New Zealand, and
>>Europe, who are fed up with the special treatment given to those they blame for having
>>CHRIST killed!!
>>[email protected] (LisaMcVay) wrote in message
>>news:<[email protected]>…
>>> How can it be hateful, to complain legitimately about the preferential
>>> treatment given one disgusting group of creatures?
>>> For 2000 years people worldwide have had to suffer at the hands of
>>> those who had Christ murdered, because He exposed their scandalous
>>> conduct in the Jew temples.
>>> Now, Canadians must continue paying for a special holiday, just to
>>> commemmorate the HOLOHOAX!!
>>> No consideration is given to the more than 100 MILLIONS KILLED BY ZHID
>>> COMMUNISM!!
>>Now that normal people have celebrated the real Remembrance Day,
>>supposedly covering all victims of all wars, we can now wonder why
>>should there be another costly day, just for the cursed ZHIDS!!
>>Why should Canadians have to pay each year, and celebrate
>>HOLOHOAX Day, just for the nuisance ZHIDS? Is it true that
>>the filthy ZHIDS, like the BRONFMANs, control Canada?
>>Why should Canadian businesses have to pay for another
>>worthless statutory holiday, and pay staff for NOT WORKING,
>>just to satisfy some ZHIDS?
>>We already have Remembrance Day, supposedly to remember ALL
>>who died in ALL WARS.
>>We do not celebrate the HOLOCAUST of the Armenians by the Turks.
>>We do not celebrate the NANKING massacre of the Chinese by Japan.
>>We do not celebrate the genocide of German POWs in concentration
>>camps by the Allies in 1945-6.
>>Canada doesn’t even celebrate the Ukrainian HOLOCAUST/FAMINE murders
>>of the tens of millions in the 1930’s.
>>Canada does not celebrate the 100 millions killed by the ZHID Soviets before
>>and during WW2.
>>Canada does not celebrate the tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians
>>murdered by the Israeli occupation forces.Have you forgotten Sabra and Shatilla?
>>Canada doesn’t celebrate the tens of thousands of natives it killed, so why the
>>ZHIDS?
>>Australia does not celebrate all the abos killed since the British occupied
>>Australia.
>>So why should we have a ZHID DAY?!!
>>Is it true that the BRONFMAN ZHIDS – who cheated the Canadian Tax Department
>>of unpaid $1,500 MILLIONS in taxes – do control the Canadian Government?
>>The gutless politicians who approved this discrimination should be exterminated!!
>>Complain to your MPs, and let them know, you are fed up with ZHID control of
>>Canada, Australia,or wherever you live!!
>>Why should sovereign countries in Europe have to kowtow to the disgusting
>>Christkiller ZHIDS,
>>and have a special day, just for them, when they have no such special day for
>>those of their own people who were killed by, or because of the ZHIDS?
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
“At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
is a revolutionary act.”
(George Orwell)
David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
“All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
“The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them — except force.” — John Bryant
“To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore.”
–John Bryant
For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com
Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
IHR – www.ihr.org
OSTARA – www.ostara.org
PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE – Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
Subscribe: [email protected]
Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>REMEMBRANCE day is for remembrance of our WAR dead and not our hippy
>pothead NDP’s who yelled peace!? It’s for those who had the guts to
>think about GOD and country and gave everything they had to protect
>Canada and our freedoms!! Red is the colour and it’s that way for a
>reason, you want a peace day take it up with Jack Layton otherwise shut
>the f–k up and get with the program!!
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This is a repost of an extremely important article, documenting the deliberate
collaboration of the Zionists, with the nazis.
From: The Truth Seeker
Subject: 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:53:13 +0000 (UTC)
51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.
By Lenni Brenner
Lenni Brenner has collated documents that relate to how the Zionist movement
collaborated with German Nazism and Italian Fascism. Given the subsequent
Holocaust against the Jews by the Nazis, many will be surprised and appalled
that a political movement, which supposedly supported Jewish liberation, was
prepared to collaborate with the most anti-semitic of regimes.
Among the documents is the relatively well known and infamous ŒStern Gang
Proposal¹ in which the organisation of future Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir offers
to join in WWII on Œthe side of the German Reich¹. There is also the
embarrassing documents of the German Zionists who saw the Nazis as fellow
nationalists and were thus sympathetic to ŒGerman national renewal¹, the
memoirs of an SS officer who stays in Palestine as the guest of the Zionist
movement for 6 months.
These acts of collaboration were not limited to the right wing fringe of the
Zionist movement but went to the heart of the Zionist Labour establishment
when the head of the Haganah, Feival Polkes, became a willing paid informer of
the Gestapo. He was even handled by one of the architects of the Final
Solution, Adolf Eichmann, who also travelled to Palestine to liaise with the
Zionists.
These shocking historical documents will make you realise that the history of
the political movement which founded the state of Israel is not quite what it
seems.
They also prove that Zionists will do *anything* to protect their precious
political movement, even if it means sacrificing several million Jews in the
process, then exploiting their suffering to secure the greater goal of a
Zionist State.
The Truth Seeker has spoken.
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 11:08:04 -0700, Ken McVayAIDS/SOB
>Reply-To: “George”
>PRAWDA!
>
>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:14:47 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>
>
>>The story documented below means that the KASTNER CASE was not an
>>isolated incident!!
>
>Now even Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!
>
>
>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>
>>>September 2004, page 86
>
>>>Book Review
>
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
>>>$15.
>
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has
>>>compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and
>>>judgements—some of which appeared in his earlier book—by a broad array
>>>of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the
>>>Nazis. On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
>>>plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
>>>new Jewish nation.
>>>
>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. These latter do indicate levels of
>>>collaboration between Zionists and fascists, both the Nazis in
>>>Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy. Brenner’s brief explanatory
>>>notes at the beginning of each document are helpful, as are the
>>>glossary and index.
>>>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept.
>>>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust
>>>guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>>>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>>>
>>>And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:
>>>“No!” And again I say no….And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)
>>>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,
>>>“assimilation” of Jews into the societies in which they lived was not
>>>an acceptable option. Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on
>>>a national level, not a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is
>>>impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is
>>>different from his own” (p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is
>>>first and foremost not a refuge for East European Jews, but the
>>>incarnation of a reawakening sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>>>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>>>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.
>>>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>>>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives—both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli—in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled – as fertiliser!!
>
>”At a time of universal deceit – telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act.”
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke – ‘…and the truth shall set you free’
>
>”All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident.”
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>”The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them — except force.” — John Bryant
>
>”To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore.”
>–John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by:
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>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
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>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin
>Henry
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: [email protected] , [email protected] or even
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco 94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 – 1601 – Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 – 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a “confessed child-molester” and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>”I am weary of seeing the issue of “child porn” blown out of
>proportion (I’ve been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I’d consider “child porn.” I’ve
>seen photos of naked children, but then I’ve got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society).” – Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay’s photo and ask yourselves; “Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked”?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay’s questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael’s
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: [email protected], especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 or
>send lots of emails to: [email protected], or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: “George”
>
>Here is Fag Rianin’s own web page: http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS – another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case – no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE – www.zundelsite.org
>IHR – www.ihr.org
>OSTARA – www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT – http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele – www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA – http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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