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On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:15:48 GMT, [email protected] (CelebornTx)
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:24:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>>>
>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.
>>>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.
>>>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>>>
>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.
>>>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.
>>>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.
>>>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>American Renaissance
>>>>http://www.amren.com
>>>>
>>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>
>>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>>>
>>>>Katja Lane’s Fourteen Word Press
>>>>http://www.14words.com
>>>>
>>>>National Alliance
>>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>>>
>>>>Stormfront
>>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>>>
>>>>Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library
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>On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:44:50 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:24:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>>>Christ.

>>>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>>>business.
>>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>>>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>>——————————————————————————
>>>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>>>
>>>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>>>
>>>>>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>>>in Brooklyn.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>>>a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York representatives of
>>>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>>>community.
>>>>>
>>>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>>>lords.
>>>>>
>>>>> “Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>>>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary Carter,
>>>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>>>charges.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>>>reporting requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>>>attorney prosecuting the case.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>>>traffickers.
>>>>>
>>>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>>>between August 1995 and May 1996.
>>>>>
>>>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 — the amount
>>>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement —
>>>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>>>at the same location.
>>>>>
>>>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>>>
>>>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in Hebrew. The
>>>>>only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>>>Building.”
>>>>>
>>>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>>>federal complaint.
>>>>>
>>>>> The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>>>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service —
>>>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>>>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>>>officials said.
>>>>>
>>>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals —
>>>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>>>illicit drug profits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday’s
>>>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them —
>>>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to have brought in large sums
>>>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder.
>>>>>
>>>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>>>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>>>apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>>>>>
>>>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>>>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made out
>>>>>to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,” the
>>>>>federal complaint said.
>>>>>
>>>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>>>among the intermediaries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>>>community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>>>================================================================================
>>>>> The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>>——————————————————————————–
>>>>> News Bureau and Archives Online

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On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:59:21 -0500, ipm wrote:
>iwraw wrote:

>> PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN OCCURS ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS AN
>> ORGANISED CRIME. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE.

>> No country/race is more or less culpable. Do not focus on this as an issue
>> of race. It isn’t just Israel but Thailand,
>> India,Nepal,USA,Netherlands,Japan….everywhere.

>> Furthermore,women who are involved in the sex trade should not be punished
>> for it–that is what you suggest Israel should do?

>Jews have been prominant in the white slave trade for a long time:

>”The Jews in this particular sphere of activity far outnumbered all the other
>’dealers’…The Jewish trafficker in women is the most terrible of all
>profiteers of human vice; if the Jew could only be eliminated, the traffic in
>women would shrink, and would become comparatively insignificant.” (Jewish
>Chronicle, April 2, 1910).

>Why do you try to protect criminals? I know, because they are Jews.

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!

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On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:59:21 -0500, ipm wrote:
>iwraw wrote:

>> PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN OCCURS ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS AN
>> ORGANISED CRIME. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE.

>> No country/race is more or less culpable. Do not focus on this as an issue
>> of race. It isn’t just Israel but Thailand,
>> India,Nepal,USA,Netherlands,Japan….everywhere.

>> Furthermore,women who are involved in the sex trade should not be punished
>> for it–that is what you suggest Israel should do?

>Jews have been prominant in the white slave trade for a long time:

>”The Jews in this particular sphere of activity far outnumbered all the other
>’dealers’…The Jewish trafficker in women is the most terrible of all
>profiteers of human vice; if the Jew could only be eliminated, the traffic in
>women would shrink, and would become comparatively insignificant.” (Jewish
>Chronicle, April 2, 1910).

>Why do you try to protect criminals? I know, because they are Jews.

On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.

>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!

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On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:15:27 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach
wrote:

>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>100,000 troops.”
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>>Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>(kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.

From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:16:24 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: COURT DOES NOT ORDER BRONFMANS TO PAY TAXES!!!
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On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:22:11 GMT, [email protected] (John Corman)
wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 05:44:21 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>Exactly. Let’s try to look at this from a different perspective. The
>>Bronfman family tried to circumvent $700 million from tax coffers. Whether
>>or not this is legal has yet to be decided by the courts.
>============================================================================
YES, it is completely true, as documented by the two news stories,
below.

>Is it true that 1)they circumvented paying that kind of money

and 2)
>that it’s before the courts?

YES, the swindle case has been before the Courts in Canada, and was
initially reported on 25 November 1997, as detailed below.

>It’s my understanding that it’s a done deal and not before the courts.
>Revenue Canada doesn’t particularly like it because the eventual taxes
>due when the various capital gains materialize may not be as easy to
>collect now that the trust is a non resident of Canada.

Presumably, Revenue Canada will have to seize other Bronfman assets in
Canada, such as Seagrams, etc.

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”

On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In article wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”

Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??

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On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:02:23 GMT, [email protected] (E. Barry
Bruyea) wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:59:28 -0600, “Barry S. Marjanovich”
> wrote:

>>The Calgary Herald
>>July 9, 1998

>>A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>>Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>>trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>>
>>”Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply the tax,” lawyer Arne Peltz told
>>Justice Francis Muldoon.
>>
>>”It was not only an oops, they missed the boat altogether,” Peltz said.
>>
>>”They screwed it up.”
>>
>>Peltz is representing George Harris, a 53-year-old office manager who took
>>on the federal tax collectors after he found out in 1996 that the family
>>was allowed to transfer assets of a $2.2-billion trust to the United
>>States without paying taxes.
>>
>>The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>>published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>>family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>>and entertainment empire.
>>
>>Throughout the controversy, there has never been any suggestion the family
>>tried to evade tax.
>>
>>Harris is appealing a Federal Court decision last year saying he didn’t
>>have the right to question the Revenue Canada decision because he doesn’t
>>have a personal stake in the matter.
>>
>>But Harris has argued the matter is one of simple fairness for all.
>>
>>He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>>estimated at $700 million in this case.
>>
>>Peltz argued Wednesday there should be a process to review such decisions,
>>adding a similar transfer-trust case in 1985 involving a different party
>>required tax to be paid.
>>
>>ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
>
>
>With the posters hysterical concentration on the Balkans, one wonders
>what his purpose was in posting the above, as it is very old news and
>while it indicates some major flaws in the Canadian Tax system, there
>is no hint of wrongdoing on the part of one of Canada’s most prominent
>and successful families. He should return to the butchery of the
>Balkans, where they have been killing each other for about a thousand
>years and no doubt will continue to do so for another thousand.
>
>
>>
>>

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On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:18:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”

On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In article wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in

Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the

Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”

Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??

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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, [email protected] (Doc
>Tavish II) wrote:
>
>>Well I’ll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>Communists and who they were!
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>>Trotsky’s political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief stay at
>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>>At the party’s Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>Results and Prospects.
>>
>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution……
>>
>>Above found at:
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Let’s review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>
>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz’s book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam #13084-6 says on page 377: “Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews.”
>>
>>I now ask: “How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren’t in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish conceived and run totalitarian state!
>>
>>>said!>
>>
>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>
>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>
>>Try also:
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>
>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>Try:
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>which states:
>>
>>”Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924.”
>>Let’s see ol’ Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>
>>”Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>common enemies” (Univ. Jew Encyc., Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>Consider this:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>You will run across this:
>>
>>Welcome to the Library of Congress’s Soviet Archives exhibit.
>>
>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress’
>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>Once there try all “exhibits” but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>”The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda — as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC’s
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il’ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military…..”
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>”On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families” (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the ” reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . .”(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish “Bund.”
>>
>>—————————————————————–
>>
>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>
>> Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>> I will find all credible sites
>> that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>> Till the next installment!

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On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:58:53 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 26 Nov 1998 02:04:42 GMT, [email protected] (Marek13) wrote:

>>The proper word is “Holocaust.” Can’t you spell English?

>The proper term is HOLOHOAX, in connection with the extortion of
>billions of dollars from gullible governments, and institutions, such
>as from Switzerland!!!

>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, “Bassam Kouatli”
> wrote:
>
>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>prominence.
>>
>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>with the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>Jewish state.
>>
>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the ‘Jewish
>>problem’. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>Jews.
>>
>>The best example of this was the ‘Transfer Agreement’ of 1934. Immediately
>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>
>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>’Jewish problem’, and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>
>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently
>>being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence unZionist,
>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build…
>>
>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>was the signature of the ‘Transfer Agreement’ with the Nazi authorities
>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>to get Germany’s Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis – ED).
>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts ‘helping’ Jews
>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>
>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the ‘new Jew’ of Zionism, a
>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>
>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>
>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen’s play PERDITION
>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>names were Hungarian – how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>
>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s
>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>
>>The Committee faced a simple choice – to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>
>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>destruction: the trains of ‘prominents’ which Eichmann promised to Kastner –
>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>
>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>Auschwitz.
>>
>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>
>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>
>>
>>
>>You’ll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>
>>
>>

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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:42:52 -0700, Ed Kadach
wrote:

>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of January 2, 1999

>The Holocaust Shakedown
>by Dr. William Pierce

>Imagine that a robber walks into a bank, points a pistol at a teller,
>hands her a bag, and demands that she put all the money from her cash
>drawer in it. At first she protests, but then, after he threatens to
>shoot, she fills the robber’s bag with cash. And then imagine that, as
>the robber walks out of the bank with his bag of loot, the bank guard
>opens the door for him, smiles at him, offers to hail a cab for him, and
>tells him to come again soon. After that it’s not difficult to imagine
>that he probably will.
>
>That’s about the way it’s been with the Jews recently. Two years ago
>they put a gun to the head of the Swiss people collectively and demanded
>billions of dollars in reparations for Swiss bank accounts they claimed
>had been owned by Jews who disappeared during the Second World War. The
>Swiss initially protested that unclaimed Jewish bank accounts from the
>1930s and 1940s amounted at most to a few million dollars, not to
>billions, and besides the war ended more than 50 years ago and claims
>should have been filed long ago. The Jews threatened to shoot,
>figuratively speaking, by having their bought politicians in the United
>States prevent Swiss banks from doing business in America. Eventually
>they walked away with $1.25 billion in loot, with the Swiss apologizing
>for not having coughed it up sooner.
>
>After that sort of success with the Swiss one could hardly expect the
>Jews to give up extortion and go straight. So anyway, they were back
>again soon, with demands against the Volkswagen Company for having used
>Jewish workers during the Second World War and providing them only with
>room and board but not paying them union-scale wages. One might think
>that these Jewish workers would be grateful to Volkswagen for keeping
>them alive during the war, feeding them, and giving them a roof over
>their heads, when so many German civilians had only bombed-out ruins to
>live in. Well, if you thought that, you just don’t understand Jews. The
>Jews told the Volkswagen Company that if it ever wanted to sell any more
>cars in America, it had better cough up — soon. And the bought
>politicians and the media bosses in America began rattling their sabres
>and talking loudly about sanctions of various sorts against Volkswagen.
>And so, like the Swiss banks, Volkswagen coughed up the money.
>
>Then the feeding frenzy started, just as I told you it would two years
>ago, when I predicted that after the Jews had cleaned out the Swiss they
>would go after other victims in a long list. Volkswagen wasn’t the only
>company which had used involuntary labor during the war. The Jews went
>after Daimler-Benz and BMW and Siemens.
>
>And Switzerland wasn’t the only country where Jews could claim that
>Uncle Abe had stashed some of his loot sixty years ago, before the war.
>So they sued banks in France and in Britain and began moaning and
>whining in the media that the banks were being “insensitive” to poor,
>deserving “Holocaust survivors,” who suddenly had remembered Uncle Abe’s
>millions and needed it — now! And then they remembered the insurance
>companies in Italy and Switzerland and Britain and elsewhere from whom
>they could claim that Uncle Abe once had had a life-insurance policy.
>Then they remembered that the Swedes owed them gold, and the Danes and
>the Norwegians. Even the Poles, whom the Jews had ruled as Bolshevik
>commissars for nearly 50 years after the war, owed them, they claimed.
>
>The racket has worked the same in every case: pay us, or we will have
>our bought Gentile politicians pass laws making it impossible for you to
>continue doing business, and our people in the media will paint you as
>monsters who want to hang onto the profit you made when poor Uncle Abe
>and Aunt Sara were crammed into gas chambers, and then the gullible
>Gentile lemmings won’t buy your products. If you give us any trouble or
>resist our demands we’ll make an example of you, the way we did with the
>Swiss banks. Just pay us the few hundred million dollars we’re demanding
>now, and we’ll leave you alone. Otherwise, it’ll end up costing you a
>lot more.
>
>And it has worked every time. Not one banker or businessman has stood up
>to them and flatly refused to pay. Not one president or prime minister
>has said to them, “All right, Jew boys! You try a boycott against my
>country, and we’ll organize a boycott against Israel. We’ll round up all
>the Jews in our country and send them packing.” Not one has called the
>Jews’ bluff. They’ve all calculated that it is cheaper to pay the
>gangsters than to fight them, and so they pay. Honor means nothing to
>these businessmen and politicians. Principles mean nothing to them. All
>they care about is continuing to make money, continuing to stay in
>office.
>
>With this sort of attitude predominant among the Gentiles, one can
>hardly blame the Jews for turning to extortion on a larger scale than
>ever before. They are successful at it; therefore they continue to do
>it. And they don’t limit themselves to Europe or to those who allegedly
>cooperated with the Germans in their demand for reparations. A few
>months ago they filed a claim against Britain for $600 million they
>claim the British government confiscated from Jews between 1940 and 1942
>when the British governed Palestine. Remember, the Jews were waging a
>guerrilla war against the British prior to 1948, when the British
>finally gave up and pulled out, letting the Jews slaughter the
>Palestinians and establish the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian
>land. The Jews were kidnapping and murdering British soldiers in
>Palestine and assassinating diplomats. In 1946 the Jews used a terrorist
>bomb to blow up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which was the British
>government headquarters. This Jewish forerunner of the Oklahoma City
>bombing killed a large number of British civilians and military people.
>And now the Jews are demanding $600 million in reparations from the
>British!
>
>And of course, the Jews also are expecting payoffs from American
>companies. Both Ford and General Motors had subsidiaries working in
>Germany when the Second World War began. The Ford plant in Germany made
>military vehicles for the Germans throughout the war, and the General
>Motors subsidiary, Opel, did the same. And so now the Jews are claiming
>that both Ford and General Motors owe them a great deal of money because
>of that. The Jews already have filed a class-action suit against Ford in
>a Federal court in New Jersey, seeking hundreds of millions of dollars
>in wages plus interest for Jews who worked in Ford’s German plant during
>the war. And because the businessmen who run Ford and General Motors
>today are the same sort as those who run the Volkswagen Company, they
>undoubtedly will pay off the Jews rather than risk having the media
>portray them as “insensitive” types who profited from the so-called
>”Holocaust” and now refuse to share their loot with the poor, deserving
>Jewish “survivors.” Two hundred years ago the American motto was,
>”Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.” But in those days
>Americans were made of sterner stuff — and I assume that our people in
>Europe were too.
>
>Cash isn’t the only thing the Jews are going after. They have decided
>that a substantial portion of the art treasures of Europe really
>belonged to Uncle Abe too 60 years ago and ought to be returned to the
>Jews now. It is true, of course, that during the war the German
>government had a keen interest in bringing as much Germanic art as
>possible back under German protection. They bought all the Vermeers and
>Rembrandts and Holbeins and Dürers and Halses and other Germanic art
>works as they could from owners in the conquered countries and brought
>them back to Germany. And when the works the Germans were interested in
>were in the hands of Jews, they often brought pressure to bear and
>obtained the works at low prices. The Germans, however, generally
>weren’t interested in modern art — certainly not in Jewish paintings by
>Chagall or Modigliani, for example — and a great many such modern
>paintings ended up in the hands of Jewish art dealers. In fact, the
>Germans often had agreements with Jewish art dealers, swapping the
>modern paintings they weren’t interested in for the Germanic paintings
>they were interested in. The biggest of these Jewish dealers, Georges
>Wildenstein, was in Paris, and he acquired an enormous number of modern
>paintings during the war. After the war he brought them to New York and
>later sold hundreds of them to museums and private collectors around the
>world. The Jews currently are engaged in a huge treasure hunt for those
>paintings now in Gentile hands which formerly belonged to Jews. The
>facts that most of these paintings were acquired by their present owners
>from Jewish dealers such as the Wildensteins and that many of them were
>legally purchased from their Jewish owners during the war are glossed
>over. All of these paintings are characterized by the Jews as — quote
>– “art stolen from victims of the Holocaust by the Nazis,” — end quote
>– and they want it all back now.
>
>There’s an interesting double standard here. A messy divorce in the
>Wildenstein family attracted public attention last year to the Jewish
>family’s business dealings in Paris during the war, and another Jewish
>family claimed that the Wildensteins have artworks that actually should
>be returned to them, because they were forced to sell them at fire-sale
>prices during the war. The Wildensteins told them to buzz off: the
>statute of limitations for such claims expired long ago, the
>Wildensteins asserted. Of course, no Gentile owner dares make such an
>assertion. But in fact, there are statutes of limitations for most
>claims. Dormant bank accounts typically become the property of the
>government after being unclaimed for 20 years or so, but when the Swiss
>brought up that legality two years ago, the Jews went into their
>”persecuted victim” act, feigning outrage that the Swiss should try to
>let a mere law stand between the Jews and what they were claiming in
>reparations.
>
>Whenever the Jews, in order to remind the world for the six-millionth
>time of their “victim” status, have accused some elderly German or Pole
>or Ukrainian or Lithuanian of having mistreated Jews 55 years ago during
>the war, there is no question of a statute of limitations. If anyone
>mentions that legality, Jewish shrieking in all of their media quickly
>drowns him out. For an injury, real or imaginary, done to a Jew by a
>Gentile there is no statute of limitations, no matter how much time has
>passed. The Jews still celebrate every year in their Purim festival the
>revenge their ancestors took on the ancient Persians 2,500 years ago
>through their control of a corrupt king.
>
>Yet when the Polish government asked the government of Israel a few
>months ago to extradite a Jewish mass murderer, Solomon Morel, so that
>he could be tried in Poland for genocide, the Jews refused. “There’s a
>statute of limitations for extradition,” the Israelis told the Poles,
>”and you’re too late.” Morel was the Jew-communist commissar of a
>concentration camp in Poland after the war, and he had tortured hundreds
>of Poles and Germans to death. When he saw the possibility of
>retribution looming, Morel, like thousands of other Jewish criminals
>before him, fled to Israel. The horrifying atrocities committed by
>Solomon Morel have been described in the 1993 book An Eye for an Eye by
>John Sack.
>
>This same double standard applies to every sort of interaction between
>Jews and non-Jews. It is a fact that in wars people suffer losses.
>Usually, within a few years after the wars are over, people try to get
>on with their lives, and they consider what is past to be past. If other
>people behaved the way the Jews behave, then every Englishman whose
>family residence got hit by a bomb during the “blitz” of the Second
>World War would be clamoring now for the German government to reimburse
>him for the repairs that his grandparents had to make 55 years ago —
>plus interest, of course. And if it’s all right to go back 55 years for
>claims, why not go back 135 years and let all of the Americans whose
>ancestors’ homes and farms in Georgia were burned by General Sherman
>collect damages from the U.S. government now — plus interest, of
>course? Or why not go back 220 years and demand that Tony Blair’s
>government pay reparations to all of those Americans whose ancestors
>suffered property loss from the Redcoats during the First American
>Revolution — plus interest, of course? I mean, if the Jews are allowed
>to keep score, without regard for time, why shouldn’t everyone else? Why
>not set up some sort of World Court for Reparations? I imagine that
>there are a lot of Palestinians who would like to file claims against
>the state of Israel.
>
>The fact is that we would have international chaos if everybody behaved
>the way the Jews do. So this raises two interesting questions: Why do
>the Jews behave the way they do? And why do we let them get away with
>it?
>
>Well, I’ve already given an answer of a sort to the first question: the
>Jews behave the way they do because we let them behave that way; it’s
>just like the case of the bank robber, who will keep coming back until
>the bank guard stops being nice and shoots the robber. But there’s
>really more to it than that. No one else is even inclined to make the
>sort of demands on the rest of the world that the Jews do. The Jews
>really are different. Their religion provides a few clues in this
>regard. It is a religion which tells them that all the property of the
>Gentiles really should belong to Jews, that the Jews are entitled to it.
>It’s as blatant as anywhere in the 60th chapter of the book attributed
>to their prophet Isaiah, where they are told to keep their gates open
>all the time, so that all the wealth of the Gentiles can be brought to
>them. “Thou shalt suck the milk of the Gentiles,” the Jews are told. And
>if you think that doesn’t really mean what it sounds like it means, you
>should look into the Talmud, where the Jewish sages, the Jewish
>interpreters of the Bible, explain to the rest of the Jews what it
>means. The Talmud tells the Jews that only Jews are human beings, that
>the Gentiles are just animals created by the Jewish tribal god Yahweh to
>be used by the Jews, like other animals are used. Because Gentiles are
>merely animals, they can’t really own anything, and it is the duty of
>the Jews to make sure they don’t.
>
>Now all of this Biblical stuff and Talmudic stuff is very old and quaint
>and might seem irrelevant to a lawsuit against the Ford Motor Company by
>the Jews today. But this old and quaint stuff is the basis of the Jews’
>religion today. The religious Jews really believe it. And the
>non-religious Jews, the atheist Jews, behave as if they believe it. And
>I think that in a certain sense they do. I think this belief is in their
>blood. I think that this is what accounts for their almost incredible
>arrogance in their dealings with non-Jews.
>
>And of course, there’s not just belief: there’s also calculation. They
>understand that the success of their current effort to swindle the rest
>of the world out of every cent they can depends on three factors: it
>depends on their control of the mass media; it depends on the
>unprecedented degree of political corruption which exists almost
>everywhere in the Western world, on the unprecedented degree of
>democracy; and it depends on the confused and demoralized state of
>Gentiles everywhere.
>
>There never before has been a time when the Jews have wielded as much
>open power as they do today. No previous government in the United States
>has had as many Jews in positions of power as the present Clinton
>government. And that’s pretty much the way it is everywhere in Europe
>too. The Jews around Clinton are mirrored by high-ranking Jews around
>Tony Blair in Britain. In Russia, the Jews not only hold most of the key
>posts around the alcoholic and ailing Boris Yeltsin, they have one of
>their own as prime minister. And nearly everywhere except in the United
>States the Jews have succeeded in having laws passed making it illegal
>for a patriot to tell his countrymen what the Jews are up to. In
>Britain, in France, and in Germany hundreds of patriots are rotting in
>prisons today because they dared to speak the truth about the Jews. In
>Switzerland the Jews succeeded in having similar laws passed before they
>began extorting money from the Swiss. Only in Russia today are any
>significant number of patriots speaking out against the Jews and daring
>the government to try to silence them.
>
>And I suppose it seems reasonable to the Jews that when they have so
>much power they should use it to their advantage. They should go for
>everything they can get. The opportunity may pass. And they are going
>for it, everywhere and in every way. It’s interesting to note that this
>display of unbridled greed and arrogance has made even some of their
>fellow Jews a little nervous. Charles Krauthammer, a Jewish writer for
>the Washington Post, the second most powerful Jewish newspaper in the
>United States, wrote a column last month which begins with the words,
>and I quote: “The pursuit of billions in Holocaust guilt money has gone
>from the unseemly to the disgraceful.” — end quote — Krauthammer
>refers to the whole racket as a “Holocaust shakedown.” It’s not that
>Krauthammer doesn’t think the Jews should have all the money they can
>get from the Gentiles. It’s just that he’s appalled by the reckless
>display of naked, unprincipled greed as more and more Jewish shysters —
>that’s what Krauthammer calls them — trample each other in their
>current feeding frenzy. What if the Gentiles notice? What will the
>Gentiles think?
>
>Now, the unfortunate fact is that no non-Jewish writer for a major
>newspaper would dare to write what Krauthammer wrote. Not even in the
>United States, where it’s still legal to write such things. They’re all
>afraid. For two generations the Jewish media have conditioned them by
>instantly and loudly accusing anyone who opens his mouth of being a
>”racist” or a “hater” or an “anti-Semite.” They’ve been conditioned to
>run for cover whenever they hear one of those accusations. And that is
>the answer to our second question, why do we let them get away with it?
>
>Their media control keeps the couch potatoes confused and unaware; the
>corrupt politicians who have come to characterize our democracy are
>always ready to front for them and betray the people whose interests
>they are supposed to be representing; and those among us who are
>perceptive enough and independent-minded enough to understand what is
>happening are nearly all too cowardly to speak out. So it is easy enough
>for me to predict that the Jews will keep coming back for more — and
>more — and more — until they either have it all, as in Russia today,
>or what Charles Krauthammer is concerned about happens, and the Gentiles
>notice. But really, the former outcome is much more likely.
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>For further reading:
>
>John Sack, An Eye for an Eye (Harper-Collins, 1993)
>
>Isaiah, chapter 60
>
>Charles Krauthammer, “Holocaust Shakedown Is Disgraceful,” Washington
>Post, December 7, 1998
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:34:38 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:48:04 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:09:51 -0800, “((((())))))”
>> wrote:

>>>The Kastner Case

>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that involving
>>>a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have, are
>>>generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’ about
>>>negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and
>>>military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’ by the Supreme
>>>Court of Israel.
>>>
>>> The Accusations
>>>
>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>
>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British Medical
>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>>>
>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse certain
>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>
>>>This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence.
>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews
>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
>>>still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was
>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann
>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went
>>>to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>>>
>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took
>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining
>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben Hecht, Perfidy,
>>>pp261-2)
>>>
>>>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’ published in
>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>
>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands
>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted
>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>>>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a
>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep
>>>order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It
>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not too
>>>high for me.
>>>
>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke
>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>
>>>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group of
>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>>>
>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand
>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You can
>>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation
>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>
>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase of
>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>>
>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>
>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more than
>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>
>>> The Verdict
>>>
>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the panel
>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953. The
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be studied
>>>carefully.
>>>
>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of confidence
>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to Kenyermeze.
>>>
>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had they
>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>
>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>
>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>
>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>>
>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or hampering
>>>the deportation orders.
>>>
>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few dozen
>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower these few
>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>
>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the Jews in
>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>
>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn their
>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders who
>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of deportations…these
>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride to
>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>
>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of extermination
>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in Budapest
>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this as a
>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured, dependent on
>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its fatal
>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish
>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>>
>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in Jewry
>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>
>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their task
>>>easier.
>>>
>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>chiefs.
>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>underground.
>>>
>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the Nazis
>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish Rescue
>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>
>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by these
>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>
>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his friends
>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total annihilation.
>>>
>>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save six
>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed to him
>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a great
>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that would
>>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and the
>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>
>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his soul to
>>>the German Satan.
>>>
>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in order
>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement between
>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation into
>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised
>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian Jews
>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that Kastner
>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp and
>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents and
>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out from
>>>the book of the living.
>>>
>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and put
>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not only
>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>
>>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort to
>>>evade this truth.
>>>
>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the wall
>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly to
>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
>>>1955).
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the ‘new
>>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>
>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>
>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent of
>>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>criminals.
>>>
>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so Kastner
>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>
>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna. Kastner’s
>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>
>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department, the
>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>
>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S. were
>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>
>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court when
>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed the
>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>
>>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the defense to
>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to remove
>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>
>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>criminal.
>>>
>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his testimony
>>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last minute
>>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming truth –
>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>
>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never stood up
>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in the
>>>affidavit.
>>>
>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews but to
>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no good
>>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>intention of good Becher’.
>>>
>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in his
>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World
>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not exaggerate
>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his personal
>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the contradictions
>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good faith
>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s affidavit
>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a war
>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>
>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of his
>>>statements.”
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of libel
>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also ordered
>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds as
>>>court costs.
>>>
>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial pointed to
>>>much more than that.
>>>
>>>But the story does not end there.
>>>
>>>The Reaction
>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>
>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary know now
>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>Government of Israel.
>>>
>>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>>
>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial, instead
>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>
>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the government
>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed. What
>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an appeal on
>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>
>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General of
>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel was
>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>
>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish National
>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in
>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>
>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration was
>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>leadership.
>>>
>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court. But
>>>the story gets worse.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>>name
>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower court –
>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>>rehabilitated’.
>>>
>>>
>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging these
>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two, found
>>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted Greenwald of
>>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>>
>>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is the
>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that prove
>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>
>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate Kastner.
>>>They joined him.
>>>
>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>Chesin:
>>>
>>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in Kluj,
>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the end of
>>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This vivid
>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>>protocol 465).
>>>
>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The Jews
>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable, neither
>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to the
>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can properly
>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>
>>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner when
>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result from
>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community. Even
>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and say
>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few Jews
>>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their plan to
>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>
>>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission – the
>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question is not
>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting its
>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of his
>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he disclose
>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way everybody
>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the blood of
>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with
>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish District
>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his
>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both from a
>>>moral and public point of view…
>>>
>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people who
>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination, one
>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and Marton,
>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an hour of
>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not warn
>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>>
>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in Hungary
>>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>
>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the Hungarian
>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what many
>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their knowledge of
>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>>train for Palestine.
>>>
>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>>>
>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among the
>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have a
>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing here
>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>guilt of others….
>>>
>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into an
>>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray of
>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the few –
>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of collaborating
>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even though, in
>>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>>
>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive such
>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in cooperation
>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the decisive
>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of the
>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been able
>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings, concealment of
>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery, etc. –
>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty
>>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue
>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he
>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as
>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to a
>>>claim of such good faith…
>>>
>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people die
>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will come
>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an individual
>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other patients. He
>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>
>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with complete
>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue operation
>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>
>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which was
>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then Kastner
>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make this
>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report to the
>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in the
>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue, and
>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or resisting
>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and activity.
>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>>
>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>
>>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small revolts,
>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs of
>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics which
>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>
>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or the
>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming murder.
>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>>evidence for this.
>>>
>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire of
>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>
>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of rescuing
>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t base
>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it is
>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws retroactive
>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>
>>>
>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever their
>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have been
>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate collaboration
>>>with the Nazis.
>>>
>>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>>
>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>
>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration with
>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>
>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner gave
>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to remain
>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with an
>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>
>>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in West
>>>Germany.
>>>
>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with the
>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only pressure
>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of what
>>>might come out.
>>>
>>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and Rescue
>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on trial .
>>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the
>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>>Palestine.
>>>
>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did was
>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership in
>>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957
>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were
>>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the
>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

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On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 21:21:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:22:11 GMT, [email protected] (John Corman)
wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 05:44:21 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>Exactly. Let’s try to look at this from a different perspective. The
>>Bronfman family tried to circumvent $700 million from tax coffers. Whether
>>or not this is legal has yet to be decided by the courts.
>============================================================================
YES, it is completely true, as documented by the two news stories,
below.

>Is it true that 1)they circumvented paying that kind of money

and 2)
>that it’s before the courts?

YES, the swindle case has been before the Courts in Canada, and was
initially reported on 25 November 1997, as detailed below.

>It’s my understanding that it’s a done deal and not before the courts.
>Revenue Canada doesn’t particularly like it because the eventual taxes
>due when the various capital gains materialize may not be as easy to
>collect now that the trust is a non resident of Canada.

Presumably, Revenue Canada will have to seize other Bronfman assets in
Canada, such as Seagrams, etc.

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”

Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!

Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.

Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”

On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In article wrote:

>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!

In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!

George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!

Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.

He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”

Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?

Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??

Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???

Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??

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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:29:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
>> wrote:

>>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
>Investigations Revenue Canada at:
> telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>
>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>> answer??
>
>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>> who can be reached at:
> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>> [email protected], or
>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
>>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
>>> They are waiting for your complaints
>
>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>
>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?
>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>
>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.
>
>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>
>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>> >OyVey???
>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>
>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>>Check this out!
>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>> >Nizkor Funding
>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>
>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>
>>> The League is working closely
>>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>incidents directly to the National Office.”
>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>> >promote Jewish interests.
>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>
>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>
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>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>
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>
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>
>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>
>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>
>>Please print this form and send to:
>
>>The Nizkor Project
>>c/o
>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>15 Hove Street
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>
>>Name:________________________________________
>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>cheque’s memo section.
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
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>

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On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 08:11:53 +0000, ASMarques
wrote:

>Newsgroups redirected. Follow-up will go to soc.culture.swiss,
>soc.culture.brazil and no longer to pt.religiao.
>
>Daniel Keren wrote:
>>
>> Neo-Nazi activist, ASMarques , writes:
>
>Howdy, Danny? Thanks for your renewed participation in our little
>”Holocaust” discussions in the Portuguese newsgroups. But your
>”cry-Nazi” hysterics are to no avail. The Nazis are the only ones that
>underwent extermination by fire and the rope, and I suppose the paranoia
>that sees Nazis everywhere is simply trying to hide this very telling
>fact.
>
>> # Minha Senhora, os tolinhos acreditam em cabecas reduzidas, sabonete
>> # humano, adubo ‘a base de cinza de crematorio, e camaras de gas
>> # funcionais funcionando com motores de submarino ou insecticida.
>>
>> The “insecticide” he mentions is Zyklon-B, which releases one of the
>> most toxic gases known, HCN (hydrogen cyanide). This gas is still
>> used to execute condemned inmates in some US prisons. It is very
>> appropriate for mass murder; see, for example
>
>No it isn’t. Take, for instance, the deposition of Wolfgang Froelich
>during the recent trial of Swiss revisionist Jurgen Graf (condemned to
>15 months imprisonment and 18,000 SwF in monetary penalties for
>investigating the “Holocaust” in Russian archives and publishing the
>results, as well as a booklet titled “On the Decline of Swiss Freedom”).
>
>Froelich is an Austrian engineer and an expert witness whose field of
>expertise are process engineering and gas applications. He told the
>court he has carried out numerous gassings to exterminate pests and
>infectious microbes. Here is how he answers the questions by public
>prosecutor Aufdenblatten:
>
>Aufdenblatten: “In your opinion were mass gassings with Zyklon B
>possible?”
>
>Froelich: “No”.
>
>Aufdenblatten: “Why not?”
>
>Froelich: “The pesticide Zyklon B is hydrocyanic acid absorbed in a
>granular-shaped carrier substance. It is released though contact with
>the air. The evaporation point of hydrocyanic acid is 25.7 degrees
>(Celsius). The higher the temperature, the more rapid is the rate of
>evaporation. The delousing chambers in which Zyklon B was used in NS
>(German wartime) camps and elsewhere were heated to 30 degrees and
>higher, so that the hydrocyanic acid would be released rapidly from the
>carrier granules. However, in the half-underground mortuaries of the
>Auschwitz-Birkenau crematories, where witnesses claim that mass killings
>with Zyklon B took place, the temperatures were much lower. Even if one
>allows for the warming of the spaces by the body warmth of the
>hypothetical prisoners, the temperature would not have been more than 15
>degrees, even in summer time. Consequently, it would have taken many
>hours for the hydrocyanic acid to evaporate.
>
>”According to eyewitness reports, the victims died very quickly. The
>witnesses mention time frames of ‘instantaneous’ to ’15 minutes’. To be
>able to kill the gas chamber prisoners in such a short time, the Germans
>would have had to use ridiculously large amounts of Zyklon — I estimate
>from 40 to 50 kilograms for each gassing. This would have made any work
>in the gas chamber fundamentally impossible. The special detachment
>(Sonderkommando) people, whom the witnesses say were assigned the task
>of clearing out (dead bodies) from them (the gas chambers), would have
>collapsed immediately upon entering the rooms, even if they were wearing
>gas masks. Enormous amounts of hydrocyanic acid would have streamed out
>into the open, and would have poisoned the entire camp”.
>
>Froehlich’s statement corroborates the investigations and declarations
>of such specialists as gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter, Austrian
>engineer Wlater Lueftl, American research chemist William B. Lindsay,
>German chemist Germar Rudolf, and German engineer Wofgang Schuster.
>
>Now comes another interesting bit. Immediately following Froelich’s
>statement, here is what public prosecutor Aufdenblatten had to say to
>him:
>
>Aufdenblatten: “I hereby ask the court to bring charges against you for
>racial discrimination, on the basis of Article 261 (the Anti-Racism Law)
>or otherwise I’ll do it myself”.
>
>So this is how Zyklon B killed all the millions and why “Anti-Racism”
>Laws are needed! Defence attorney Stehrenberger could only inform the
>court that in view of this blatant intimidation of the witness , he
>would withdraw from the case. He later expressed again his objections to
>the amazing proceedings, and resumed his duties as defence attorney. To
>no avail, of course:
>
>Judge Andrea Staubli (to Graf): “Can’t you imagine that Jews feel
>offended by your books?”
>
>Graf: “Yes, and many non-Jews as well. The brain-washing has been so
>thorough that anyone who inadvertently stumbles upon the truth would be
>completely upset”.
>
>Staubli: “And don’t you care if Jews feel offended by your books?”
>
>Graf: “Edgar Bronfman (the president of the Jewish World Congress) said
>recently that Switzerland is like a man who has to have his feet held in
>the fire before he sees reason. Can’t you imagine that a Swiss person
>would feel offended by that? Why is it that only Jewish feelings are
>taken into account and never the feelings of non-Jews?”
>
>Graf got his 15 months and 18,000 SwF. His publisher Gerhard Foerster —
>a 78 years old man suffering from several illnesses, who needs a wheel
>chair to go around — got 12 months imprisonment and 53,000 SwF,
>assorted financial punishment.
>
>BTW, here is what the Swiss Anti-Racism Law — Article (Section) 261 of
>the criminal code (Strafgesetzbuch) — has to say on the subject:
>”Whoever (…) flagrantly whitewashes (groeblich verharmlost) or seeks
>to justify, genocide or other crimes against humanity (…) will be
>punished by (up to three years) imprisonment or a fine”.
>
>Sounds like Messieurs Fabius & Gayssot really are succeeding in making
>disciples, doesn’t it?
>
>The “Anti-Racism” Law is in vigour since January 1, 1995. Until now
>there were no cases presented by Africans or Turks. All the cases have
>resulted from the “Holocaust” sensibilities of Jewish groups that feel
>offended by the truth about the gigantic “Holocaust” hoax.
>
>Mrs. Ruth Dreyfuss, the first Jewish woman to be elected President of
>Switzerland by the electoral college, has just considered (“Lusa”
>telegram, January 6) that the extorsion of the Swiss banks on behalf of
>the Jewish groups and international organisations was the rightful thing
>to do. She didn’t use these words naturally, but that’s what her
>position on the matter amounts to. She also believes the role of
>Switzerland during the War should be re-evaluated. Soon, no doubt, we’ll
>learn that Switzerland was one of the major Axis partners, exactly like
>Portugal, a neutral country who committed the crime of exporting a few
>silly cans of sardines to the Nazis, while giving air and naval bases to
>the Allies. Seems we too, were accepting gold dentures as currency…
>
>And that’s why the Internet is so important for exposing the “Holocaust”
>fraud:
>http://www.ety.com/tell/
>
>More data in English about the trial of Jurgen Graf can be found in the
>”Journal of Historical Review”, vol.17, #4:
>http://www.ihr.org/jhr/jhrindex.html
>
>More persecution and censorship cases in:
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/fran/polpen/polpen.html
>http://www.codoh.com/index_main.html
>http://www.vho.org/censor/Censor.html
>http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/misc/attention.html
>
>> “Cyanide (HCN gas) is notorious as a poison (Gee, 1987)
>> but also is ideal as a chemical weapon. It kills rapidly,
>> dissipates quickly, and leaves no toxic residue”.
>>
>> (“Chemical Warfare Agents”, by Satu M. Somani, Department of
>> Pharmacology, Southern Illinois University, School of Medicine.
>> Academic Press 1992, p. 211).
>>
>> Maybe “ASMarques” will try to demonstrate his “theories”, by exposing
>> himself to HCN gas in a closed room?
>
>My dear fellow, if “Danny Keren” is inserted in a barrel of beer, he
>will die by drowning. However, insertion in barrels of beer wouldn’t be
>a practical or intelligent way for the industrial extermination of
>millions of people. It would be a surrealistic joke.
>
>> As to the motor he mentions – exhaust from large engines will kill
>> people quite quickly, especially if many of them are crammed
>> together in a closed chamber. This is known to everyone with even
>> a little of technical background and understanding.
>
>Not if it is a submarine *diesel* motor, like I mentioned and we are
>required to believe. Diesel fumes are not toxic. Of course one would
>die… by asphixy, and that would be an EXTREMELY long, convolute,
>difficult, and idiotic way of performing mass murder. Practical people
>use bullets: quick, efficient, cheap and infallible. Ask the veteran
>professional authors of the Katyn massacre, if you don’t believe the
>obvious…
>
>See you,
>
>ASMarques
>*****************
>P.S.:
>Some revisionist sites more for Danny’s information. Bookmark them now!
>
>Excellent fast introduction:
>http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/leaflets.html
>
>Six important sites with a lot of information in several languages and
>many links to others:
>http://www.codoh.com/
>http://www.ihr.org/index.html
>http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/index.html
>http://abbc.com/aaargh/
>http://www.vho.org/Home.html
>http://www.adam.com.au/fredadin/adins.html
>
>Air photo interpretation with maps and photos (sound commentary or
>text):
>http://www.air-photo.com/
>
>Three important personal sites:
>http://www.fpp.co.uk/ (David irving)
>http://members.aol.com/ihrgreg/index.html (Greg Raven)
>http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ (Arthur Butz)
>
>A discussion forum open to all (and its archives):
>http://www.codoh.com/bbs/

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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, [email protected] (Real Name:)
>wrote:

>> We need to re-orient it, though,
>>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>>jewish contrived wars,

>>————Reply Separator—————-
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message
>><[email protected]>, NSWPP
>> wrote:

>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi
>>death camp of Auschwitz.
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups.
>
>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,”
>>she added.
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.
>
>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent,
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near
>>the site.
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity
>>of the complex.
>
>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a
>>nationalist uproar.
>
>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.
>
>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.
>
>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be
>>negotiated.
>
>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”
>
>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec,
>>“But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less
>>frequently.
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by
>>the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs,
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the
>>extermination campaign.
>
>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”
>
>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are
>>also on the agenda.
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,”
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.
>
>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating
>>dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.
>
>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a
>>leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??
>
>-88-

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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:28:25 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:

>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.

>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>>
>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>
>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>
>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is
>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>> telephone # 204-983-1829
>>
>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected], or
>>>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>
>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>
>> They are waiting for your complaints
>>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> > letters?
>>
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith’s butt.
>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>Canadian dollars.
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>
>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>
>>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>
>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>
>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>>
>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>[email protected] which contains the
>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com
>>
>>
>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>Canada!!!
>>
>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>
>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>
>>
>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return…. and see if it comes
>>>>from anthing called “Nizkor,” or claims that it would… won’t that be
>>>>fun, Bill? If you don’t get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>you’ve got me, eh?
>>
>>>>Please print this form and send to:
>>>>The Nizkor Project
>>>>c/o
>>>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>>>xxxxxx Street
>>>>Toronto, Ontario
>>
>>>>Name:________________________________________
>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>>
>>>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>>>cheque’s memo section.
>>
>>
>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>[#0235903-43-13]
>>
>>

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>On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:49:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>>>wrote:

>>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>>Christian natives.

>>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>>humanity in Palestine.

>>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>>
>>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>>
>>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>>
>>>
>>>>—NO-SPAM: Cut-out “NoSPAM-2372.” from E-mail above to reply directly.
>>>> ——————————————————————–
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Subject: JEW RABBIS LAUNDER DRUG MONEY IN NY!!!!
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>On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:44:50 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:24:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>>>Christ.

>>>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>>>business.
>>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>>>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>>——————————————————————————
>>>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>>>
>>>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>>>
>>>>>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>>>in Brooklyn.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>>>a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York representatives of
>>>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>>>community.
>>>>>
>>>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>>>lords.
>>>>>
>>>>> “Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>>>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary Carter,
>>>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>>>charges.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>>>reporting requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>>>attorney prosecuting the case.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>>>traffickers.
>>>>>
>>>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>>>between August 1995 and May 1996.
>>>>>
>>>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 — the amount
>>>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement —
>>>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>>>at the same location.
>>>>>
>>>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>>>
>>>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in Hebrew. The
>>>>>only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>>>Building.”
>>>>>
>>>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>>>federal complaint.
>>>>>
>>>>> The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>>>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service —
>>>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>>>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>>>officials said.
>>>>>
>>>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals —
>>>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>>>illicit drug profits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday’s
>>>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them —
>>>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to have brought in large sums
>>>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder.
>>>>>
>>>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>>>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>>>apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>>>>>
>>>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>>>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made out
>>>>>to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,” the
>>>>>federal complaint said.
>>>>>
>>>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>>>among the intermediaries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>>>community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>>>================================================================================
>>>>> The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>>——————————————————————————–
>>>>> News Bureau and Archives Online

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:04:59 GMT, John wrote:

>Gary L. Dare wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> : >A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>> : >between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>> : >extortionate taxes in Canada.
>>
>> By Hong Kong standards, ALL western countries’ taxes are excessive.
>>
>> : >Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars
>> : >out of Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>>
>> That was post-tax money already theirs. So what if they’re Jewish?
>>
>> : >The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>> : >finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>> : >immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>> : >ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>>
>> In other words, in line with the US, UK, etc. on their residents.
>> In fact, US citizens are taxed by Washington wherever they reside.
>> snip
>
>
>Canada taxes assets on UNREALIZED capitol gains, the US taxes only on
>the actual gain after selling something. Look up “deemed disposition of
>property” in the Revenue Canada web sight. I was going to move to
>Canada, but decided not to after studying the tax system. If you are a
>higher income earner with any assets it is not a smart move.
>Unfortunately, this is what Canada needs. Check out New Zealand.They
>realized this a few years ago. Their taxes are less than the US and if
>you work hard you can do quite well.

From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:17:49 EST 1999
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>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:08:57 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>>On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:31:56 -0400, Vernon Paige
>> wrote:
>>>[email protected] wrote:

>>>> I was referring to published documents, at public hearings, regarding
>>>> the 52 UNQUALIFIED BOOKKEEPERS, ADMITTED INTO CGA ALBERTA AS CGA’S,
>>>> WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE ANY EXAMS, ANY COURSES, ANY UPGRADING – the
>>>> only requirement was that they sign an affidavit that they earned
>>>> $25,000.– doing bookkeeping!!!

>>>You can quibble
>>>if you want about whether 52 people should have been required to provide
>>>more evidence of competency,
>>
>>
>>On the contrary, any so-called professional group should not only be
>>maintaining its standards, but should in general be upgrading them!!!
>>
>>
>>CGA Canada, which is a BOOKKEEPING group claiming to be accountants,
>>in both B.C. and Alberta freely admitted not only unqualified people,
>>but even admitted convicted criminals!!!
>>
>>
>>>YOU say they were “unqualified bookkeepers”. You don’t seem to make any
>>>distinction among bookkeepers, accountans and auditors.
>>
>>At the public hearings held to determine whethere Alberta CGA’s were
>>in fact qualified to do public audits, such as for companies required
>>to have audits for securities and related laws, the CA’s, and CMA’s,
>>as well as concerned members of the public all testified against CGA
>>Alberta.
>>
>>In fact, Prof. Boritz, who established the course of instruction for
>>CGA Canada also testified that CGA’s in Alberta and generally, were
>>unqualified because of defects in their course of instruction, to do
>>public audits!!!
>> You don’t
>>>present any evidence they were “unqualified” ANYTHING, only that they
>>>didn’t complete the courses of instruction that were at that time the
>>>standard.
>>
>>In fact the unqualified bookkeepers in both Alberta and B.C. were not
>>even required to have ANY educational qualification whatsoever, then,
>>or later!!!
>>
>>
>>>> Since this ng relates to accounting, the other trades have no
>>>> relevance to readers.
>>
>>
>>>anonymously broadcasting unjustified attacks against individuals and
>>>organizations who may have (probably have?) no connection with your
>>>problem.
>>
>>The names and dates of the prominent CGA’s are identified, and if you
>>can read, all you need do to verify the contents, is search and access
>>the news media themselves directly, as so many others have now done.
>>
>>I am not going to assist you in your laziness, whether you are a
>>bookkeeping student or not.
>>
>>
>>>> That was not the topic of the article, which I will re-insert for you
>>>> to re-read. It relates to ACCOUNTANTS, in particular the problems with
>>>> Canadian CGA’s, whom I denigrate as unqualified bookkeepers, since
>>>> they have such in their membership!!!
>>
>>
>>>> I am discussing the problem, openly and publicly, and have even
>>>> provided you with full details.
>>
>>I am by profession an International Management Consultant, with
>>credentials from countries in Europe, North America and S.E.Asia.

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On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 00:18:20 -0400, “Kevin Drayson”
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote in message <[email protected]>…
>>>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:08:57 GMT, [email protected]
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:31:56 -0400, Vernon Paige
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>[email protected] wrote:

>>>>>> I was referring to published documents, at public hearings, regarding
>>>>>> the 52 UNQUALIFIED BOOKKEEPERS, ADMITTED INTO CGA ALBERTA AS CGA’S,
>>>>>> WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE ANY EXAMS, ANY COURSES, ANY UPGRADING – the

>Folks, for those of you who perhaps haven’t seen this post before (it seems
>to get reposted on a regular basis), this is a troll.

As the attached DETAILS confirm, this is actual fact. Perhaps YOu are
one of the unqualified bookkeepers, called a CGA??

Subject: BEWARE OF CGA CANADA!!!

Attention of: FENG YIFEN,
and others concerned about criminals in CGA Canada!!!

Further to previous news reports, the Past President of CGA Alberta,
William L. Mearns, has been sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison on his
conviction for embezzling from the County of Red Deer, Alberta.

PAST PRESIDENT CGA – CRIMINAL TRIAL – GETS 3 1/2 YEARS
IMPRISONMENT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WARNING RE CGA CANADA

OF CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS, ACCOUNTANTS, AND THE
GENERAL PUBLIC

CGA’S IN CANADA – WHAT’S WRONG WITH THEM?

Over the past year, national media have been filling the news with
stories of major scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL
ACCOUNTANTS (CGA’S) in Canada.

In Alberta, the media have had a field day for the past year,
reporting on the fact that a PAST PRESIDENT of CGA Alberta, an FCGA
and CGA, was under investigation, and eventually charged , and
convicted, with 14 serious criminal charges,

The complaints were filed by the Hongkong Bank to the
RCMPCOMMERCIAL CRIME DIVISION.

The HK Bank was complaining about William Mearns,who had been for 12
years the Controller/Treasurer of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.

MEARNS WAS CHARGED WITH 14 SERIOUS CRIMINAL CHARGES, as reported
by CFRN-TV, the Edmonton Sun, and Red Deer Advocate. Among the charges
are 5 charges of uttering forged documents, another 5 charges of
making a false document, 2 more charges of forgery, one more charge of
fraud, and one of theft over $5,000.00.

MORE THAN ONE MILLION DOLLARS is reported to be missing.

At his next Court appearance on 4th October 1996, the third
adjournment requested by Mearns, he was convicted, and sentenced to 3
1/2 years in prison.

At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or EVEN
TO MEMBERS OF CGA ALBERTA, MEARNS WAS ALLOWED TO SECRETLY RESIGN
BOTH HIS CGA AND FCGA designations. This seems to be a first for
Canada, where an FCGA surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious
designation. In the past year Mearns and one of his businesses have
both gone bankrupt.

Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in
1987-1988, where he was involved with THE ADMISSSION TO CGA ALBERTA OF
UNQUALIFIED BOOKKEEPERS, WHO WERE GIVEN THE CGA DESIGNATION, WITHOUT
ANY REQUIREMENT FOR EDUCATION,QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, NO EXAMS or
even a requirement for upgrading courses to bring them up to an
acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course benefitted financially,
>from the huge increase in dues and fees from these new members.

The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner
headlines regarding ROMAN EVANCIC, another FCGA, who had got himself
SHOT!!! This was apparently in connection with some business partner
and a collections problem. The news reported that the assailant said,
as he shot Evancic:” I’m from your stock brokers. I understand you
ripped him off.” (Vancouver Sun – 11 January 1996).

And don’t forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey, BC
CGA convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow
parishioners of his church.

Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason
that the Maritime Provinces have successfully maintained that CGA’s in
those provinces ARE NOT QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it
have something to do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from
Alberta could move to the Maritimes, and even though unqualified,
could still call himself a CGA there?

As a result of all the bad publicity regarding problem CGA’s in
Canada, CGA Canada is now desperately trying to recruit new members
>from the ignorant in CHINA and the Caribbean,

Students of accounting in HK, CHINA and the Caribbean, who must pay
many tens of thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do
you feel about these “gwaliau” who got the CGA for FREE?

Those of you concerned about credibility in the accounting profession
are invited to respond.

>Kevin Drayson
>[email protected]

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On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 02:56:20 -0400, “Kevin Drayson”
wrote:

>
>[email protected] wrote in message <[email protected]>…

>>As the attached DETAILS confirm, this is actual fact. Perhaps YOu are
>>one of the unqualified bookkeepers, called a CGA??

>>Subject: BEWARE OF CGA CANADA!!!
>>
>>Attention of: FENG YIFEN,
>>and others concerned about criminals in CGA Canada!!!
>>
>>
>>Further to previous news reports, the Past President of CGA Alberta,
>>William L. Mearns, has been sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison on his
>>conviction for embezzling from the County of Red Deer, Alberta.
>>
>>PAST PRESIDENT CGA – CRIMINAL TRIAL – GETS 3 1/2 YEARS
>>IMPRISONMENT
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>
>
>
>>Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in
>>1987-1988, where he was involved with THE ADMISSSION TO CGA ALBERTA OF
>>UNQUALIFIED BOOKKEEPERS, WHO WERE GIVEN THE CGA DESIGNATION, WITHOUT
>>ANY REQUIREMENT FOR EDUCATION,QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, NO EXAMS or
>>even a requirement for upgrading courses to bring them up to an
>>acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course benefitted financially,
>>from the huge increase in dues and fees from these new members.
>>
>
>
>
>
>>have something to do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from
>>Alberta could move to the Maritimes, and even though unqualified,
>>could still call himself a CGA there?
>>
>>As a result of all the bad publicity regarding problem CGA’s in
>>Canada, CGA Canada is now desperately trying to recruit new members
>>from the ignorant in CHINA and the Caribbean,
>>
>>
>>
>>Students of accounting in HK, CHINA and the Caribbean, who must pay
>>many tens of thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do
>>you feel about these “gwaliau” who got the CGA for FREE?
>>
>>Those of you concerned about credibility in the accounting profession
>>are invited to respond.
>>
>
>
>*Sigh*. I’m going to ignore my own advice, and reply.
>
>First of all, I am a CGA student, living in the Maritimes.

>The CGA association, like many other organisations, has awarded membership
>to those they believed to have earned the qualifications, based on education
>and/ or experience.

In Alberta, the only requirement for the unqualified bookkeepers, to
obtain the CGA deisgnation was an affidavit stating that they earned
$25,000 the previous year doing bookkeeping!!!

There was no requirement for any upgrading courses, exams, or other
tests of competency!!!

> If these individuals, as you claim, received their
>designations unjustly, then I’d like to see reference to the actual
>documents that support that claim.

The Alberta government allowed this, by passing Bill 51 in 1988.

>Quoted text, or supposedly quoted text,
>on the internet, proves nothing. I can easily whip something scandalous up
>about *any* group in several minutes. Just because I’ve posted it to a
>newsgroup doesn’t make it factual. Back up your claims with references that
>others can investigate at their leisure.

>That said, I fail to see the connection between the criminal activities of a
>few individuals in an organization, and your original claim. There are bad
>apples in any group. The chaps you mentioned (assuming they exist) are
>certainly bad apples, but I don’t see a link between their deeds, and your
>claim regarding CGA qualifications in Alberta. By your logic, the fact that
>the CFO of Bre-X was a CA must make the CICA even more corrupt and rotten
>than the CGA’s!

When a national professional organisation permits unqualified persons
to represent themselves as qualified, the public, and even those
members who ARE qualified have good reason for concern!!!

>As for the cost, it’s nearly as expensive as you claim. Assuming you enter
>the program with absolutely no transferable credits (not a likely scenario),
>you’re looking at about $7,000- $8,000 Can, over 6 years. University grads
>can likely get through in two years, for about $3,000.

>Kevin Drayson, CGA student and proud of it, thankyou very much!

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>On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:33:05 GMT, [email protected] the maggot
>apologist for the Jew Christkillers wrote:
>From deja News some interesting comments worthy of more discussion.

>On 29 Sep 1997 09:42:03 GMT, [email protected](NSWPP) wrote:

>> 1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

>> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>demographic statistics.
>
>> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>
>> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>WORLD WAR TWO?
>
>> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>race or national origin alone.
>
>
>> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>
>> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>internment once the war broke out.
>
>> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>been fully justified.
>
>
>> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>
>> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>
>
>> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>
>> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
>
>> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>
>
>> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>
>> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>
>
>> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>
>> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>
>
>> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>
>> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>commonly used and available today.
>
>
>> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>
>> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>cross examined.
>
>
>> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>
>> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>only are employed.
>
>
>> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>
>> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>
>
>> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>
>> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>million figure as well.
>
>
>> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>NOT KNOW?
>
>> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>all during the war that such an event was occurring.
>
>
>> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>DURING THE WAR?
>
>> About 300,000.
>
>
>> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>
>> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>
>
>> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>DIED?
>
>> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>
>
>> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>
>> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>
>
>> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>
>> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>
>> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>
>> About two hours.
>
>
>> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>
>> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>typhus and other diseases.
>>
>
>> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>
>> About 430,600.
>
>
>> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>
>> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>when in heavy operation.
>
>
>> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>CORPSE?
>
>> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>
>
>> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>
>> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>anywhere else in Europe.
>
>
>> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>
>> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>burned.
>
>
>> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>
>> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>
>> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>
>
>> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>
>> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>published text.
>
>> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>
>> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>
>> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>
>> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>
>
>> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>
>> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>
>
>> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>
>> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>Zip. Nada.
>
>
>> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>DURING THE WAR?
>
>> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>to silence him.
>
>
>> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>
>> Slightly less than four million.
>
>
>> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>NAZIS?
>
>> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>kill them.
>
>
>> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>
>> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>they are all accounted for.
>
>> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>TODAY?
>
>> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>
>
>> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>
>> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>creative and financial sectors of film making.
>
>> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>
>
>> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> Over 100, with more in the works.
>
>
>> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>
>> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>
>
>> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>
>> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>
>> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>prison and torture in Germany.
>
>> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>
>> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>
>> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>REVISIONISTS?
>
>> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>
>
>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>[email protected] – W.S.
>sven88
>

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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, [email protected] (Doc
>Tavish II) wrote:
>
>>Well I’ll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>Communists and who they were!
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>>Trotsky’s political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief stay at
>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>>At the party’s Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>Results and Prospects.
>>
>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution……
>>
>>Above found at:
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Let’s review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>
>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz’s book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam #13084-6 says on page 377: “Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews.”
>>
>>I now ask: “How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren’t in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish conceived and run totalitarian state!
>>
>>>said!>
>>
>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>
>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>
>>Try also:
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>
>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>Try:
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>which states:
>>
>>”Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924.”
>>Let’s see ol’ Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>
>>”Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>common enemies” (Univ. Jew Encyc., Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>Consider this:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>You will run across this:
>>
>>Welcome to the Library of Congress’s Soviet Archives exhibit.
>>
>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress’
>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>Once there try all “exhibits” but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>”The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda — as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC’s
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il’ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military…..”
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>”On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families” (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the ” reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . .”(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish “Bund.”
>>
>>—————————————————————–
>>
>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>
>> Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>> I will find all credible sites
>> that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>> Till the next installment!

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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:16:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:09:41 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:28:22 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>> > One MUST question the alleged figure of the damn JEWS as to how many
>>>> > allegedly died in WWII.
>
>>>> Is there no wonder how the dumn Jews have so big influence in the world?
>
>>>> J.B.
>
>>>=================
>>>Presence of Jews in Hitler’s army clearly rules out the story of
>>>exterminatinon. Being in high places they would know that the story is
>>>true and would alert the world through their relatives.
>
>>>They have not done it … little chance that there was Jewish genocide.
>>>Moreover, there are no bones of 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the
>>>chance to cremate.
>
>>>Why Jews are smart and there is no doubt about it?
>
>>>Jew are the oldest people on earth with practical alphabet. Being so
>>>for they became the record keepers and accountants of the world. While
>>>Slavic women looked at Slavic mens muscles in order to be sure that he
>>>will have the strenght to plow and feed her family Jewish maiden looked
>>>in Jewish boys for brains to sustain them.
>
>>>Moreover Catholicizm caused that the smartest boys especially in peasant
>>>families became priests and than the genes of smartnes did not
>>>reproduced. In Rabbis families was just the opposite, the smartest boy
>>>in the shtetle was gettin hand of the smart rabbis daughters.
>
>>>But I do not worry about that. Mere forty years of education given to
>>>the Slavs admixed with Jewish apparatus of terror and the Slavs managed
>>>to launch Sputnik and man space station Mir.
>
>>>Western Europeans were unable to do it.
>>>Pawlikowski

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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:54:40 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!
>

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On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:03:49 +0100, mike muth wanted
to write:

On 4 Jan 1999 01:47:00 GMT, [email protected] (Alyvaryat) wrote:

>>What a savage, subhuman people!

Perhaps he was referring to the JEW murderers?

> Did your nation ever have to endure an artificial Famine at the hands of
>it’s occupiers as Ukraine had to endure at Russia’s hands? You cannot honestly
>tell me what levels you, your family, or “your people” would go to in order to
>survive. Self-preservation is a powerful driving force.

> Perhaps, since you feel you are able to judge an entire nation as
>”subhuman” and “savage”, you should go thru something like this and then tell
>those that survived Russia’s assault on Ukraine in 1932 thru 1933 that you
>never did those things…….

What is even surprising, is that the article was written by an honest
Jewish writer, well known in Canada for telling the truth.

On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, [email protected] wrote:
>>Reply-To:
>>From: “nikst”
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300

>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998

>>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet,
>>the 65th anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent
>>farmers – called kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine’s growing spirit of nationalism.

>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number,
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death – mass
>>starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger,
>>cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance.
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped
>>supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets,
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant
>>children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB’s archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine’s population was
>>exterminated.

>>Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.

>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine,
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering.

>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??

>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region’s innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe’s Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust,
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world’s gaze. But
>>Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.

>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty’s lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime –
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who
>>Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,” murdered four times more people
>>than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and
>>enjoying a generous state pension.

>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: [email protected].

>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: [email protected].

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On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:58:53 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 26 Nov 1998 02:04:42 GMT, [email protected] (Marek13) wrote:

>>The proper word is “Holocaust.” Can’t you spell English?

>The proper term is HOLOHOAX, in connection with the extortion of
>billions of dollars from gullible governments, and institutions, such
>as from Switzerland!!!

>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, “Bassam Kouatli”
> wrote:
>
>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>prominence.
>>
>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>with the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>Jewish state.
>>
>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the ‘Jewish
>>problem’. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>Jews.
>>
>>The best example of this was the ‘Transfer Agreement’ of 1934. Immediately
>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>
>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>’Jewish problem’, and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>
>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently
>>being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence unZionist,
>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build…
>>
>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>was the signature of the ‘Transfer Agreement’ with the Nazi authorities
>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>to get Germany’s Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis – ED).
>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts ‘helping’ Jews
>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>
>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the ‘new Jew’ of Zionism, a
>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>
>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>
>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen’s play PERDITION
>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>names were Hungarian – how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>
>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s
>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>
>>The Committee faced a simple choice – to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>
>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>destruction: the trains of ‘prominents’ which Eichmann promised to Kastner –
>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>
>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>Auschwitz.
>>
>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>
>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>
>>
>>
>>You’ll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>
>>
>>

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On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:21:08 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:16:26 -0800, [email protected] (“Expat
>Authority”) wrote:

>>What are you trying to achieve by posting all these
>>anti-Jewish messages? What is your purpose?

>>Jewish people in your country are local citizens.

>> There are bad people among them,

>It seems that he must either be one of the foul jews, or similar??
>
>This story, documented by a well respected Jewish writer, was carried
>in many other newspapers across Canada.
>
>The Zionist murderers are angry that it was written by a Jew, to tell
>the TRUTH for a change!!!
>
>On 17 Dec 1998 08:05:54 GMT, “Koshercook”
>wrote:
>
>>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>
>>[How the High Jews in the Soviet Government Killed Millions in the USSR and
>>Still Hide It From Us…]
>
>>Archived for Scholarly Study
>
>>From the Toronto Sun – December 13, 1998
>
>>By ERIC MARGOLIS Contributing Foreign Editor
>
>>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show trial of
>>that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the 65th
>>anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly ignored. Leftists
>>now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be reminded of the Unknown
>>Holocaust.
>
>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine. Stalin
>>determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent farmers – called
>>kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush Ukraine’s
>>growing spirit of nationalism.
>
>>Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed terror and
>>dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from Moscow – earlier
>>versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian peasants into
>>collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began selective executions of
>>recalcitrant farmers.
>
>>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, OGPU
>>was ordered to begin mass executions.
>
>>But there were simply not enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many
>>people, so Stalin decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of
>>death – mass starvation.
>
>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were confiscated from
>>Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam used
>>the same method in the 1970s to force collectivization: the resulting famine
>>cased one million deaths.)
>
>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail lines. Nothing
>>came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and looted of food and fuel.
>>Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, cold and sickness.
>
>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent henchman Lazar
>>Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. Kaganovitch, the Soviet
>>Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of
>>all Ukrainian intellectuals were executed. A Ukrainian party member named
>>Nikita Khruschchev helped supervise the slaughter.
>
>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created by Kaganovitch
>>and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, boots and belts, plus
>>bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant children.
>
>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s custom-made famine and
>>Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. The KGB’s archives, and
>>recent work by Russian historians, show at least seven million died.
>>Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine million, or higher. Twenty-five
>>percent of Ukraine’s population was exterminated. Millions of victims
>
>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during
>>collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million
>>peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia,
>>Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in the USSR;
>>massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial genocide
>>accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war
>>dead. Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish.
>
>
>Note that this article is written by a well regarded Jewish writer in
>Canada!!!
>
>
>>The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes
>>and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and
>>Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both
>>communism and their suffering.
>
>> As a direct result, during the subsequent
>>Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region’s innocent Jews became the
>>target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.
>
>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of Europe’s Jews by
>>the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger holocaust in Ukraine has been
>>suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler
>>began the Jewish Holocaust, and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before
>>the world’s gaze. But Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or
>>concealed by a left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day.
>>In the strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb and PM
>>Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 and proclaimed
>>reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not see one
>>under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent Walter
>>Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting, wrote claims of
>>famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million people were dying around
>>them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New York Times has never repudiated
>>Duranty’s lies.
>
>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and historical
>>roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime – the inevitable
>>result of enforced social engineering and Marxist theology.
>
>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the governments of
>>Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the Ukrainian genocide and
>>Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they eagerly welcomed him as an ally
>>during World War II. Stalin, who Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,”
>>murdered four times more people than Adolf Hitler.
>
>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were ever brought
>>to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a few years ago,
>>still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and enjoying a generous state
>>pension.
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:47:21 -0800, [email protected] (“Expat
>Authority”) wrote:
>>I have read some anti-Jewish postings on this NG… I say: stop!
>>You know, I think that it is unfair to stereotype! You are saying that all
>>Jews are bad, bloodsuckers etc.
>>Yes there are people like that among the Jewish community there.
>>EA
>>*** Posted from RemarQ – http://www.remarq.com – Discussions Start Here ™ ***

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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:42:52 -0700, Ed Kadach
wrote:

>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of January 2, 1999

>The Holocaust Shakedown
>by Dr. William Pierce

>Imagine that a robber walks into a bank, points a pistol at a teller,
>hands her a bag, and demands that she put all the money from her cash
>drawer in it. At first she protests, but then, after he threatens to
>shoot, she fills the robber’s bag with cash. And then imagine that, as
>the robber walks out of the bank with his bag of loot, the bank guard
>opens the door for him, smiles at him, offers to hail a cab for him, and
>tells him to come again soon. After that it’s not difficult to imagine
>that he probably will.
>
>That’s about the way it’s been with the Jews recently. Two years ago
>they put a gun to the head of the Swiss people collectively and demanded
>billions of dollars in reparations for Swiss bank accounts they claimed
>had been owned by Jews who disappeared during the Second World War. The
>Swiss initially protested that unclaimed Jewish bank accounts from the
>1930s and 1940s amounted at most to a few million dollars, not to
>billions, and besides the war ended more than 50 years ago and claims
>should have been filed long ago. The Jews threatened to shoot,
>figuratively speaking, by having their bought politicians in the United
>States prevent Swiss banks from doing business in America. Eventually
>they walked away with $1.25 billion in loot, with the Swiss apologizing
>for not having coughed it up sooner.
>
>After that sort of success with the Swiss one could hardly expect the
>Jews to give up extortion and go straight. So anyway, they were back
>again soon, with demands against the Volkswagen Company for having used
>Jewish workers during the Second World War and providing them only with
>room and board but not paying them union-scale wages. One might think
>that these Jewish workers would be grateful to Volkswagen for keeping
>them alive during the war, feeding them, and giving them a roof over
>their heads, when so many German civilians had only bombed-out ruins to
>live in. Well, if you thought that, you just don’t understand Jews. The
>Jews told the Volkswagen Company that if it ever wanted to sell any more
>cars in America, it had better cough up — soon. And the bought
>politicians and the media bosses in America began rattling their sabres
>and talking loudly about sanctions of various sorts against Volkswagen.
>And so, like the Swiss banks, Volkswagen coughed up the money.
>
>Then the feeding frenzy started, just as I told you it would two years
>ago, when I predicted that after the Jews had cleaned out the Swiss they
>would go after other victims in a long list. Volkswagen wasn’t the only
>company which had used involuntary labor during the war. The Jews went
>after Daimler-Benz and BMW and Siemens.
>
>And Switzerland wasn’t the only country where Jews could claim that
>Uncle Abe had stashed some of his loot sixty years ago, before the war.
>So they sued banks in France and in Britain and began moaning and
>whining in the media that the banks were being “insensitive” to poor,
>deserving “Holocaust survivors,” who suddenly had remembered Uncle Abe’s
>millions and needed it — now! And then they remembered the insurance
>companies in Italy and Switzerland and Britain and elsewhere from whom
>they could claim that Uncle Abe once had had a life-insurance policy.
>Then they remembered that the Swedes owed them gold, and the Danes and
>the Norwegians. Even the Poles, whom the Jews had ruled as Bolshevik
>commissars for nearly 50 years after the war, owed them, they claimed.
>
>The racket has worked the same in every case: pay us, or we will have
>our bought Gentile politicians pass laws making it impossible for you to
>continue doing business, and our people in the media will paint you as
>monsters who want to hang onto the profit you made when poor Uncle Abe
>and Aunt Sara were crammed into gas chambers, and then the gullible
>Gentile lemmings won’t buy your products. If you give us any trouble or
>resist our demands we’ll make an example of you, the way we did with the
>Swiss banks. Just pay us the few hundred million dollars we’re demanding
>now, and we’ll leave you alone. Otherwise, it’ll end up costing you a
>lot more.
>
>And it has worked every time. Not one banker or businessman has stood up
>to them and flatly refused to pay. Not one president or prime minister
>has said to them, “All right, Jew boys! You try a boycott against my
>country, and we’ll organize a boycott against Israel. We’ll round up all
>the Jews in our country and send them packing.” Not one has called the
>Jews’ bluff. They’ve all calculated that it is cheaper to pay the
>gangsters than to fight them, and so they pay. Honor means nothing to
>these businessmen and politicians. Principles mean nothing to them. All
>they care about is continuing to make money, continuing to stay in
>office.
>
>With this sort of attitude predominant among the Gentiles, one can
>hardly blame the Jews for turning to extortion on a larger scale than
>ever before. They are successful at it; therefore they continue to do
>it. And they don’t limit themselves to Europe or to those who allegedly
>cooperated with the Germans in their demand for reparations. A few
>months ago they filed a claim against Britain for $600 million they
>claim the British government confiscated from Jews between 1940 and 1942
>when the British governed Palestine. Remember, the Jews were waging a
>guerrilla war against the British prior to 1948, when the British
>finally gave up and pulled out, letting the Jews slaughter the
>Palestinians and establish the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian
>land. The Jews were kidnapping and murdering British soldiers in
>Palestine and assassinating diplomats. In 1946 the Jews used a terrorist
>bomb to blow up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which was the British
>government headquarters. This Jewish forerunner of the Oklahoma City
>bombing killed a large number of British civilians and military people.
>And now the Jews are demanding $600 million in reparations from the
>British!
>
>And of course, the Jews also are expecting payoffs from American
>companies. Both Ford and General Motors had subsidiaries working in
>Germany when the Second World War began. The Ford plant in Germany made
>military vehicles for the Germans throughout the war, and the General
>Motors subsidiary, Opel, did the same. And so now the Jews are claiming
>that both Ford and General Motors owe them a great deal of money because
>of that. The Jews already have filed a class-action suit against Ford in
>a Federal court in New Jersey, seeking hundreds of millions of dollars
>in wages plus interest for Jews who worked in Ford’s German plant during
>the war. And because the businessmen who run Ford and General Motors
>today are the same sort as those who run the Volkswagen Company, they
>undoubtedly will pay off the Jews rather than risk having the media
>portray them as “insensitive” types who profited from the so-called
>”Holocaust” and now refuse to share their loot with the poor, deserving
>Jewish “survivors.” Two hundred years ago the American motto was,
>”Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.” But in those days
>Americans were made of sterner stuff — and I assume that our people in
>Europe were too.
>
>Cash isn’t the only thing the Jews are going after. They have decided
>that a substantial portion of the art treasures of Europe really
>belonged to Uncle Abe too 60 years ago and ought to be returned to the
>Jews now. It is true, of course, that during the war the German
>government had a keen interest in bringing as much Germanic art as
>possible back under German protection. They bought all the Vermeers and
>Rembrandts and Holbeins and Dürers and Halses and other Germanic art
>works as they could from owners in the conquered countries and brought
>them back to Germany. And when the works the Germans were interested in
>were in the hands of Jews, they often brought pressure to bear and
>obtained the works at low prices. The Germans, however, generally
>weren’t interested in modern art — certainly not in Jewish paintings by
>Chagall or Modigliani, for example — and a great many such modern
>paintings ended up in the hands of Jewish art dealers. In fact, the
>Germans often had agreements with Jewish art dealers, swapping the
>modern paintings they weren’t interested in for the Germanic paintings
>they were interested in. The biggest of these Jewish dealers, Georges
>Wildenstein, was in Paris, and he acquired an enormous number of modern
>paintings during the war. After the war he brought them to New York and
>later sold hundreds of them to museums and private collectors around the
>world. The Jews currently are engaged in a huge treasure hunt for those
>paintings now in Gentile hands which formerly belonged to Jews. The
>facts that most of these paintings were acquired by their present owners
>from Jewish dealers such as the Wildensteins and that many of them were
>legally purchased from their Jewish owners during the war are glossed
>over. All of these paintings are characterized by the Jews as — quote
>– “art stolen from victims of the Holocaust by the Nazis,” — end quote
>– and they want it all back now.
>
>There’s an interesting double standard here. A messy divorce in the
>Wildenstein family attracted public attention last year to the Jewish
>family’s business dealings in Paris during the war, and another Jewish
>family claimed that the Wildensteins have artworks that actually should
>be returned to them, because they were forced to sell them at fire-sale
>prices during the war. The Wildensteins told them to buzz off: the
>statute of limitations for such claims expired long ago, the
>Wildensteins asserted. Of course, no Gentile owner dares make such an
>assertion. But in fact, there are statutes of limitations for most
>claims. Dormant bank accounts typically become the property of the
>government after being unclaimed for 20 years or so, but when the Swiss
>brought up that legality two years ago, the Jews went into their
>”persecuted victim” act, feigning outrage that the Swiss should try to
>let a mere law stand between the Jews and what they were claiming in
>reparations.
>
>Whenever the Jews, in order to remind the world for the six-millionth
>time of their “victim” status, have accused some elderly German or Pole
>or Ukrainian or Lithuanian of having mistreated Jews 55 years ago during
>the war, there is no question of a statute of limitations. If anyone
>mentions that legality, Jewish shrieking in all of their media quickly
>drowns him out. For an injury, real or imaginary, done to a Jew by a
>Gentile there is no statute of limitations, no matter how much time has
>passed. The Jews still celebrate every year in their Purim festival the
>revenge their ancestors took on the ancient Persians 2,500 years ago
>through their control of a corrupt king.
>
>Yet when the Polish government asked the government of Israel a few
>months ago to extradite a Jewish mass murderer, Solomon Morel, so that
>he could be tried in Poland for genocide, the Jews refused. “There’s a
>statute of limitations for extradition,” the Israelis told the Poles,
>”and you’re too late.” Morel was the Jew-communist commissar of a
>concentration camp in Poland after the war, and he had tortured hundreds
>of Poles and Germans to death. When he saw the possibility of
>retribution looming, Morel, like thousands of other Jewish criminals
>before him, fled to Israel. The horrifying atrocities committed by
>Solomon Morel have been described in the 1993 book An Eye for an Eye by
>John Sack.
>
>This same double standard applies to every sort of interaction between
>Jews and non-Jews. It is a fact that in wars people suffer losses.
>Usually, within a few years after the wars are over, people try to get
>on with their lives, and they consider what is past to be past. If other
>people behaved the way the Jews behave, then every Englishman whose
>family residence got hit by a bomb during the “blitz” of the Second
>World War would be clamoring now for the German government to reimburse
>him for the repairs that his grandparents had to make 55 years ago —
>plus interest, of course. And if it’s all right to go back 55 years for
>claims, why not go back 135 years and let all of the Americans whose
>ancestors’ homes and farms in Georgia were burned by General Sherman
>collect damages from the U.S. government now — plus interest, of
>course? Or why not go back 220 years and demand that Tony Blair’s
>government pay reparations to all of those Americans whose ancestors
>suffered property loss from the Redcoats during the First American
>Revolution — plus interest, of course? I mean, if the Jews are allowed
>to keep score, without regard for time, why shouldn’t everyone else? Why
>not set up some sort of World Court for Reparations? I imagine that
>there are a lot of Palestinians who would like to file claims against
>the state of Israel.
>
>The fact is that we would have international chaos if everybody behaved
>the way the Jews do. So this raises two interesting questions: Why do
>the Jews behave the way they do? And why do we let them get away with
>it?
>
>Well, I’ve already given an answer of a sort to the first question: the
>Jews behave the way they do because we let them behave that way; it’s
>just like the case of the bank robber, who will keep coming back until
>the bank guard stops being nice and shoots the robber. But there’s
>really more to it than that. No one else is even inclined to make the
>sort of demands on the rest of the world that the Jews do. The Jews
>really are different. Their religion provides a few clues in this
>regard. It is a religion which tells them that all the property of the
>Gentiles really should belong to Jews, that the Jews are entitled to it.
>It’s as blatant as anywhere in the 60th chapter of the book attributed
>to their prophet Isaiah, where they are told to keep their gates open
>all the time, so that all the wealth of the Gentiles can be brought to
>them. “Thou shalt suck the milk of the Gentiles,” the Jews are told. And
>if you think that doesn’t really mean what it sounds like it means, you
>should look into the Talmud, where the Jewish sages, the Jewish
>interpreters of the Bible, explain to the rest of the Jews what it
>means. The Talmud tells the Jews that only Jews are human beings, that
>the Gentiles are just animals created by the Jewish tribal god Yahweh to
>be used by the Jews, like other animals are used. Because Gentiles are
>merely animals, they can’t really own anything, and it is the duty of
>the Jews to make sure they don’t.
>
>Now all of this Biblical stuff and Talmudic stuff is very old and quaint
>and might seem irrelevant to a lawsuit against the Ford Motor Company by
>the Jews today. But this old and quaint stuff is the basis of the Jews’
>religion today. The religious Jews really believe it. And the
>non-religious Jews, the atheist Jews, behave as if they believe it. And
>I think that in a certain sense they do. I think this belief is in their
>blood. I think that this is what accounts for their almost incredible
>arrogance in their dealings with non-Jews.
>
>And of course, there’s not just belief: there’s also calculation. They
>understand that the success of their current effort to swindle the rest
>of the world out of every cent they can depends on three factors: it
>depends on their control of the mass media; it depends on the
>unprecedented degree of political corruption which exists almost
>everywhere in the Western world, on the unprecedented degree of
>democracy; and it depends on the confused and demoralized state of
>Gentiles everywhere.
>
>There never before has been a time when the Jews have wielded as much
>open power as they do today. No previous government in the United States
>has had as many Jews in positions of power as the present Clinton
>government. And that’s pretty much the way it is everywhere in Europe
>too. The Jews around Clinton are mirrored by high-ranking Jews around
>Tony Blair in Britain. In Russia, the Jews not only hold most of the key
>posts around the alcoholic and ailing Boris Yeltsin, they have one of
>their own as prime minister. And nearly everywhere except in the United
>States the Jews have succeeded in having laws passed making it illegal
>for a patriot to tell his countrymen what the Jews are up to. In
>Britain, in France, and in Germany hundreds of patriots are rotting in
>prisons today because they dared to speak the truth about the Jews. In
>Switzerland the Jews succeeded in having similar laws passed before they
>began extorting money from the Swiss. Only in Russia today are any
>significant number of patriots speaking out against the Jews and daring
>the government to try to silence them.
>
>And I suppose it seems reasonable to the Jews that when they have so
>much power they should use it to their advantage. They should go for
>everything they can get. The opportunity may pass. And they are going
>for it, everywhere and in every way. It’s interesting to note that this
>display of unbridled greed and arrogance has made even some of their
>fellow Jews a little nervous. Charles Krauthammer, a Jewish writer for
>the Washington Post, the second most powerful Jewish newspaper in the
>United States, wrote a column last month which begins with the words,
>and I quote: “The pursuit of billions in Holocaust guilt money has gone
>from the unseemly to the disgraceful.” — end quote — Krauthammer
>refers to the whole racket as a “Holocaust shakedown.” It’s not that
>Krauthammer doesn’t think the Jews should have all the money they can
>get from the Gentiles. It’s just that he’s appalled by the reckless
>display of naked, unprincipled greed as more and more Jewish shysters —
>that’s what Krauthammer calls them — trample each other in their
>current feeding frenzy. What if the Gentiles notice? What will the
>Gentiles think?
>
>Now, the unfortunate fact is that no non-Jewish writer for a major
>newspaper would dare to write what Krauthammer wrote. Not even in the
>United States, where it’s still legal to write such things. They’re all
>afraid. For two generations the Jewish media have conditioned them by
>instantly and loudly accusing anyone who opens his mouth of being a
>”racist” or a “hater” or an “anti-Semite.” They’ve been conditioned to
>run for cover whenever they hear one of those accusations. And that is
>the answer to our second question, why do we let them get away with it?
>
>Their media control keeps the couch potatoes confused and unaware; the
>corrupt politicians who have come to characterize our democracy are
>always ready to front for them and betray the people whose interests
>they are supposed to be representing; and those among us who are
>perceptive enough and independent-minded enough to understand what is
>happening are nearly all too cowardly to speak out. So it is easy enough
>for me to predict that the Jews will keep coming back for more — and
>more — and more — until they either have it all, as in Russia today,
>or what Charles Krauthammer is concerned about happens, and the Gentiles
>notice. But really, the former outcome is much more likely.
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>For further reading:
>
>John Sack, An Eye for an Eye (Harper-Collins, 1993)
>
>Isaiah, chapter 60
>
>Charles Krauthammer, “Holocaust Shakedown Is Disgraceful,” Washington
>Post, December 7, 1998
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:34:38 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:48:04 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:09:51 -0800, “((((())))))”
>> wrote:

>>>The Kastner Case

>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that involving
>>>a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have, are
>>>generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’ about
>>>negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and
>>>military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’ by the Supreme
>>>Court of Israel.
>>>
>>> The Accusations
>>>
>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>
>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British Medical
>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>>>
>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse certain
>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>
>>>This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence.
>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews
>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
>>>still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was
>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann
>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went
>>>to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>>>
>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took
>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining
>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben Hecht, Perfidy,
>>>pp261-2)
>>>
>>>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’ published in
>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>
>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands
>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted
>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>>>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a
>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep
>>>order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It
>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not too
>>>high for me.
>>>
>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke
>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>
>>>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group of
>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>>>
>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand
>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You can
>>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation
>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>
>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase of
>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>>
>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>
>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more than
>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>
>>> The Verdict
>>>
>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the panel
>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953. The
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be studied
>>>carefully.
>>>
>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of confidence
>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to Kenyermeze.
>>>
>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had they
>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>
>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>
>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>
>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>>
>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or hampering
>>>the deportation orders.
>>>
>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few dozen
>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower these few
>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>
>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the Jews in
>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>
>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn their
>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders who
>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of deportations…these
>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride to
>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>
>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of extermination
>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in Budapest
>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this as a
>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured, dependent on
>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its fatal
>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish
>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>>
>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in Jewry
>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>
>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their task
>>>easier.
>>>
>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>chiefs.
>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>underground.
>>>
>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the Nazis
>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish Rescue
>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>
>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by these
>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>
>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his friends
>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total annihilation.
>>>
>>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save six
>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed to him
>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a great
>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that would
>>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and the
>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>
>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his soul to
>>>the German Satan.
>>>
>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in order
>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement between
>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation into
>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised
>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian Jews
>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that Kastner
>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp and
>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents and
>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out from
>>>the book of the living.
>>>
>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and put
>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not only
>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>
>>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort to
>>>evade this truth.
>>>
>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the wall
>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly to
>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
>>>1955).
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the ‘new
>>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>
>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>
>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent of
>>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>criminals.
>>>
>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so Kastner
>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>
>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna. Kastner’s
>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>
>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department, the
>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>
>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S. were
>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>
>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court when
>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed the
>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>
>>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the defense to
>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to remove
>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>
>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>criminal.
>>>
>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his testimony
>>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last minute
>>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming truth –
>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>
>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never stood up
>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in the
>>>affidavit.
>>>
>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews but to
>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no good
>>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>intention of good Becher’.
>>>
>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in his
>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World
>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not exaggerate
>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his personal
>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the contradictions
>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good faith
>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s affidavit
>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a war
>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>
>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of his
>>>statements.”
>>>
>>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of libel
>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also ordered
>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds as
>>>court costs.
>>>
>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial pointed to
>>>much more than that.
>>>
>>>But the story does not end there.
>>>
>>>The Reaction
>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>
>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary know now
>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>Government of Israel.
>>>
>>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>>
>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>>
>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial, instead
>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>
>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the government
>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed. What
>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an appeal on
>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>
>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General of
>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel was
>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>
>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish National
>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in
>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>
>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration was
>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>leadership.
>>>
>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court. But
>>>the story gets worse.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>>name
>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>>>
>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower court –
>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>>rehabilitated’.
>>>
>>>
>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging these
>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two, found
>>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted Greenwald of
>>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>>
>>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is the
>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that prove
>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>
>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate Kastner.
>>>They joined him.
>>>
>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>Chesin:
>>>
>>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in Kluj,
>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the end of
>>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This vivid
>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>>protocol 465).
>>>
>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The Jews
>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable, neither
>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to the
>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can properly
>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>
>>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner when
>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result from
>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community. Even
>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and say
>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few Jews
>>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their plan to
>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>
>>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission – the
>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question is not
>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting its
>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of his
>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he disclose
>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way everybody
>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the blood of
>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with
>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish District
>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his
>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both from a
>>>moral and public point of view…
>>>
>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people who
>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination, one
>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and Marton,
>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an hour of
>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not warn
>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>>
>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in Hungary
>>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>
>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the Hungarian
>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what many
>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their knowledge of
>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>>train for Palestine.
>>>
>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>>>
>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among the
>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have a
>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing here
>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>guilt of others….
>>>
>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into an
>>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray of
>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the few –
>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of collaborating
>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even though, in
>>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>>
>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive such
>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in cooperation
>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the decisive
>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of the
>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been able
>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings, concealment of
>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery, etc. –
>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty
>>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue
>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he
>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as
>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to a
>>>claim of such good faith…
>>>
>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people die
>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will come
>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an individual
>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other patients. He
>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>
>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with complete
>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue operation
>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>
>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which was
>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then Kastner
>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make this
>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report to the
>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in the
>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue, and
>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or resisting
>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and activity.
>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>>
>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>
>>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small revolts,
>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs of
>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics which
>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>
>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or the
>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming murder.
>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>>evidence for this.
>>>
>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire of
>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>
>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of rescuing
>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t base
>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it is
>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws retroactive
>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>
>>>
>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever their
>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have been
>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate collaboration
>>>with the Nazis.
>>>
>>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>>
>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>
>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration with
>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>
>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner gave
>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to remain
>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with an
>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>
>>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in West
>>>Germany.
>>>
>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with the
>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only pressure
>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of what
>>>might come out.
>>>
>>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and Rescue
>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on trial .
>>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the
>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>>Palestine.
>>>
>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did was
>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership in
>>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957
>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were
>>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the
>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong
wrote:

>The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>
>A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>
>The Jews’ physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>why Jews are disliked.
>
>In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>
>Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>with them.
>
>The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>aid.
>
>The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>billion/year of US taxpayers’ money continues to be sent to Israel as
>foreign aid.
>
>The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>
>The Jews stole the Palestinians’ homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>the Jews.
>
>In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the “anti-semitism” they are
>always complaining about.

On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 03:34:12 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>Danko wrote:
>> > [email protected] wrote in article <[email protected]>…

>> > “firewell” evidently thinks that it is directed at the target
>> > culture, but he distinguishes “substance” as a separate and
>> > unrelated entity…
>> >
>> > Frankly, I tried to elicit from him/her a clarification, by
>> > suggesting that such antipathy is understood to encompass
>> > the entire known spectrum of the object’s existance that
>> > includes religion, and hence referred him to a definition of
>> > “culture”.
>> >
>> > Since you responded with a different thesis, I suggest that
>> > you should try to substantiate your claim of this solely
>> > religious antagonism in the case of Jews, of course with the
>> > understanding that a commonly accepted definition of a “Jew”
>> > is ” a descendant of the Hebrew people”…
>>
>> This is a definition “commonly accepted” only in the former USSR. If you
>> look at the Collins dictionary it gives “a person whose religion is
>> Judaism”
>> as the definition of the word Jew. As for ethnic aspect of the word Jew,
>> it relates rather to Semitic people in English, but such usage is incorrect
>> in more or less structured language (which I prefer to use). Even in the
>> layman conversation it is more common to hear “Hebraic woman/man” rather
>> than “Jewish woman/man” when the reference is to ethnic specifics of the
>> individual in question.
>
>
>
> According to the Webster’s New International Dictionary of the
> English Language, Second Edition Unabridged, G&C. Merriam Co.,
> Springfield, Massachusetts, 1961:
>
> “Jew – n. Orig. one belonging to the tribe or kingdom of Judah;
> after the return from the Babylonian captivity, any mem-
> ber of the new Hebrew state; hence any person of the
> Hebrew race or people or anyone whose religion is
> Judaism.”
>
>
> It seems that such definition is “commonly accepted” also
> throughout the English-speaking world…
>
>
>
>> >
>> > Again, before proceeding any further, please consult a good
>> > English dictionary in order to clarify the definition/s of the
>> > English noun “Jew”…
>>
>> I just did, see above. BTW, define “good” when applied to dictionary.
>
>
>
>
> Anything weighing more than 1 kg…
>
>
>
>>
>> > With respect to Amazon’s reply which you quote above, you
>> > should be able to appreciate (especially should you support
>> > the Judaism’s objection to the “Jesus Christ myth”) that all
>> > religions, in general, claim to be the sole pathway to God
>> > and,at the same time, regard each other’s interpretation to be
>> > fallacious and heretical.
>>
>> I accept that. I never disputed that. That is where any “religion of love
>> is bound to become a religion of hate.”
>
>
>
> Excluding such that formally censure or disallow hate per se…
>
> For example, Christianity.
>
> When correctly interpreted, it continues to be the religion
> of love.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> > Hence such terms as: pagans, heathens, infidels, goyim…
>> >
>>
>> Yes, I agree again. Let us see what Amazon has to say about this. It’s
>> bound to be very amusing.
>
>
>
> I suspect that Amazon will provide us with the correct answer.
>
> If there exists but one truth, and not several truths, then
> it is plausible to argue that only one religion is the most
> perfect pathway to God…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> > I would be carefull about the use of the term “cretinism”
>> > (defined as “a thyroid deficiency causing arrested mental
>> > and physical development”) because it refers to a specific
>> > cause of mental and physical deficiency. Moreover, it has
>> > a certain racist connotation because it probably was derived
>> > from a derogatory term for the inhabitant of the island of
>> > Crete…
>>
>> I already explained few weeks back what I mean under “cretinism”. Cretinism
>> as used by me and many in analysis of political behaviour is inability to
>> accept certain premises solely on the grounds of secondary factors. E.g.
>> conservatives support this point of view I am against conservatives, hence
>> this point of view must be wrong. To me this is a cretinism, which may not
>> have been caused by “thyroid” deficiency, but is definitely a result of
>> some sort of deficiency, and it does arrest at least mental development of
>> the person in question.
>>
>> As for the “racist connotation”, you are really over-stretching it.
>
>
>
>
> I apologize to the inhabitants of the isle of Crete for even
> suggesting that the word “cretin” may have had anything to do
> with Crete…
>
> The same dictionary, i.e., Webster’s, informs that the word
> “cretin” derives from the French ( cretin ):
>
> “[a dial. form meaning prop. Christian, hence human being]”
>(?),
>
> which is quite interesting…
>
>
>
>> > Please do not exaggerate. Intelligence and ethnic/racial
>> > intolerance are not mutually exclusive.
>>
>> Depending on definition of intelligence. Even if you take a layman’s
>> definition of intelligence as it is given by dictionary of [natural, i.e.
>> not structured] English language – “the capacity for understanding; ability
>> to perceive and comprehend meaning”, it seems like ethnic/racial
>> intolerance impedes intelligence and hence renders it impossible as a
>> totality.
>
>
>
>
> But intelligence is very a relative concept, to the extent
> that to claim totality would be absurd…
>
>
>
>
>>
>> > Glance at the people in your society…
>> > Do you see the mentally incompetent where you look?
>>
>> Whenever I see fanatics, I see mentally incompetent people.
>> Most people in my society do not give a toss about nations, religions,
>> classes, etc. they just care about their personal well-being. They
>> are NORMAL people.
>
>
>
> It sounds very self-centered…
>
> Can such a society exist independently as a cohesive entity
> when its members care only about their individual selves,
> ready to sacrifice nothing for their families, neighbors,
> compatriots and fellow man?
>
> There would be no tax base, no social net, no laws or police
> force to protect the individual, no army to defend this society
> as a whole from a foreign aggression…
>
> This sounds like anarchy.
>
> It seems that the only way in which people like this could
> actually prosper would be at the expense of those who would
> be willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater, common
> good…, as is evident in any parasitic relationship.
>
>
>
>
>> > Come on… Do you suggest that Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, etc.,
>> > i.e., the dominant specimens within that regime, were
>> > unfamiliar with the writings of Marx?
>>
>> Yes and no. Lenin was most likely unable to comprehend or unwilling to
>> accept early writings of Marx. Lenin searched for ideological tool which
>> would have helped him to achieve his ends, he did not go looking for truth.
>> Trotsky was pretty primitive thinker, which is more than true especially in
>> case of Stalin. Having read 12 volumes of the works of the latter I could
>> say that his logic and thoughts never passed the arithmetical logic. I
>> would consider A. Bogdanov and Plekhanov as much more capable philosophers
>> of the
>> period in question.
>
>
>
> Which one of the two then wrote Stalin’s speeches and
>treatises?
>
> Although I am unfamiliar with his publications, I am told that
> some were compulsory reading and that the norm dictated that
> the embelished quotations be recapitulated flawlessly for best
> effect…
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> > I think that it would be safe to say that they at least
>> > referred to him, if not quoted him often…
>>
>> If I am allowed to make a joke in reply, then here it goes. In 1940s in
>> Paris
>> Marx attended a workshop of “Marxist Club” upon leaving which he noted “I
>> am not a Marxist”, few years later he became a Marxist indeed.
>
>
>
>
> As the saying goes, if the shoe fits then wear it…
>
>
>
>
>> > Do you imply then that, in each case, these sets of principles
>> > could have been applied differently, to create workable
>> > systems…?
>>
>> Which “sets”? Marxism is not workable as ideology. No ideology is workable
>> in the long run. But Marx’s philosophy contains potential which is still
>> being used and realised by philosophers world-wide. Sartre said in 1948 (if
>> I am not mistaken about the date), “after Marx we all Marxists.”
>
>
>
>
> “Nationalism and class-awareness”…
>
>
>
>
>
>> > Obviously, a full scale attempt at the implementation of
>> > these principles, which were put forth by Engels and Marx,
>> > resulted only in the deaths of at least 25 million people
>> > on the Ukrainian territory alone, as well as untold depri-
>> > vation and suffering of many more millions who had the
>> > misfortune to live within the boundaries of this Evil
>> > empire…
>> >
>> > It is intriguing whether Messrs. Engels and Marx had the
>> > intelligence to predict the failure of the system to be built
>> > on their hypotheses.
>>
>> Marx did. Look at the Manuscripts mentioned above (forget about Engels). It
>> was not system based on Marxism that failed, it was that Marxism fell into
>> the trap which was pretty well identified by Marx himself. If you look at
>> Plekhanov’s “Our Disagreements”, there is a clear description of the
>> scenario of what would have happened and did happen in Russia. The problem
>> is that a thinker is also a human being.
>
>
>
> And as human beings, it would be expected of them to do their
> utmost to stop the experiment when it started to fail, if not
> to prevent a doomed trial altogether…
>
> Marx lived to see the effects of collectivisation and the
> ensuing Great Famine in Ukraine, in the early 1930’s.
>
> Did he like those effects…?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> > Probably not…, although if true, they would be held culpable
>> > in counselling to commit the crime…
>>
>> Some of them (Marx, Plekhanov, Bogdanov) are culpable of being humans, some
>> (Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin) were criminals, and some (Engels) just thought
>> they were something.
>>
>
>
>
> Ruinous architects, bancrupt hypocrites and unscrupulous
> opportunists…
>
> GHC

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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:29:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
>> wrote:

>>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
>Investigations Revenue Canada at:
> telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>
>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>> answer??
>
>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>> who can be reached at:
> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>> [email protected], or
>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
>>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
>>> They are waiting for your complaints
>
>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>
>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?
>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>
>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.
>
>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>
>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>> >OyVey???
>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>
>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>>Check this out!
>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>> >Nizkor Funding
>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>
>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>
>>> The League is working closely
>>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>incidents directly to the National Office.”
>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>> >promote Jewish interests.
>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>
>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>
>>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>
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>
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>
>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>
>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>
>>Please print this form and send to:
>
>>The Nizkor Project
>>c/o
>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>15 Hove Street
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>
>>Name:________________________________________
>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>cheque’s memo section.
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13]
>
>
>>Attention:CHARITIES
>>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>
>

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong
wrote:

>The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>
>A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>
>The Jews’ physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>why Jews are disliked.
>
>In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>
>Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>with them.
>
>The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>aid.
>
>The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>billion/year of US taxpayers’ money continues to be sent to Israel as
>foreign aid.
>
>The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>
>The Jews stole the Palestinians’ homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>the Jews.
>
>In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the “anti-semitism” they are
>always complaining about.

On 7 Jan 1999 19:46:25 GMT, “Danko” <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote in article <[email protected]>…
>> Danko wrote:
>> > [email protected] wrote in article <[email protected]>…
>> > > [email protected] wrote:

>> > > (text deleted)

>> > > > 1. Bakunin was a mild anti-semite, typical for most Russians of
>that
>> > time.
>> > > > His criticism is based on his personal dislike of Jewish culture
>and
>> > not on
>> > > > substance.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > An interesting view of “mild” ethnic hostility…
>> >
>> > “Hostility” towards Jews is not an “ethnic” one but a religious one.
>>
>>
>>
>> “firewell” evidently thinks that it is directed at the target
>> culture, but he distinguishes “substance” as a separate and
>> unrelated entity…
>>
>> Frankly, I tried to elicit from him/her a clarification, by
>> suggesting that such antipathy is understood to encompass
>> the entire known spectrum of the object’s existance that
>> includes religion, and hence referred him to a definition of
>> “culture”.
>>
>> Since you responded with a different thesis, I suggest that
>> you should try to substantiate your claim of this solely
>> religious antagonism in the case of Jews, of course with the
>> understanding that a commonly accepted definition of a “Jew”
>> is ” a descendant of the Hebrew people”…
>
>This is a definition “commonly accepted” only in the former USSR. If you
>look at the Collins dictionary it gives “a person whose religion is
>Judaism”
>as the definition of the word Jew. As for ethnic aspect of the word Jew,
>it relates rather to Semitic people in English, but such usage is incorrect
>in more or less structured language (which I prefer to use). Even in the
>layman conversation it is more common to hear “Hebraic woman/man” rather
>than “Jewish woman/man” when the reference is to ethnic specifics of the
>individual in question.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Here a quote from Amazons’ reply to me which clearly demonstrates
>”mild”
>> > religious “hostility” towards Jews:
>> >
>> > “Wrong, you must take all of Jesus’s teachings together, and all are
>> > either right or they make His most important claims totally crazy which
>> > is why those Jews who do not accept Him do not celebrate His birth or
>> > want to have anything to do with Him. He came to them first of all but
>> > as a nation they rejected Him. And as a result God rejected them,
>> > they are no longer the chosen people.”
>> >
>> > Since to be a Jew means following Judaism, Jew cannot by definition
>accept
>> > the Jesus Christ myth. You all seem to miss the difference between
>being a
>> > Jew (i.e. follower of Judaism [ethnic Ukrainian having converted into
>> > Judaism becomes a Jew without ceasing of being a Ukrainian]) and being
>a
>> > Hebrew (i.e. ethnic definition).
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, before proceeding any further, please consult a good
>> English dictionary in order to clarify the definition/s of the
>> English noun “Jew”…
>
>I just did, see above. BTW, define “good” when applied to dictionary.
>
>> With respect to Amazon’s reply which you quote above, you
>> should be able to appreciate (especially should you support
>> the Judaism’s objection to the “Jesus Christ myth”) that all
>> religions, in general, claim to be the sole pathway to God
>> and,at the same time, regard each other’s interpretation to be
>> fallacious and heretical.
>
>I accept that. I never disputed that. That is where any “religion of love
>is bound to become a religion of hate.”
>
>> Hence such terms as: pagans, heathens, infidels, goyim…
>>
>
>Yes, I agree again. Let us see what Amazon has to say about this. It’s
>bound to be very amusing.
>
>> >
>> >
>> > > On what else do you base someone’s ethnic/racial intolerance if
>> > > not on “the totality of socially transmitted behaviour patterns
>> > > characteristic of a people” (i.e., culture)…?
>> >
>> > How about cretinism. It is my good believe that “ethnic/racial
>intolerance”
>> > is a symptom of cretinism and cretinism only no matter how deep a
>> > foundation one pretends it might have in a “science”.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be carefull about the use of the term “cretinism”
>> (defined as “a thyroid deficiency causing arrested mental
>> and physical development”) because it refers to a specific
>> cause of mental and physical deficiency. Moreover, it has
>> a certain racist connotation because it probably was derived
>> from a derogatory term for the inhabitant of the island of
>> Crete…
>
>I already explained few weeks back what I mean under “cretinism”. Cretinism
>as used by me and many in analysis of political behaviour is inability to
>accept certain premises solely on the grounds of secondary factors. E.g.
>conservatives support this point of view I am against conservatives, hence
>this point of view must be wrong. To me this is a cretinism, which may not
>have been caused by “thyroid” deficiency, but is definitely a result of
>some sort of deficiency, and it does arrest at least mental development of
>the person in question.
>
>As for the “racist connotation”, you are really over-stretching it.
>
>> Please do not exaggerate. Intelligence and ethnic/racial
>> intolerance are not mutually exclusive.
>
>Depending on definition of intelligence. Even if you take a layman’s
>definition of intelligence as it is given by dictionary of [natural, i.e.
>not structured] English language – “the capacity for understanding; ability
>to perceive and comprehend meaning”, it seems like ethnic/racial
>intolerance impedes intelligence and hence renders it impossible as a
>totality.
>
>> Glance at the people in your society…
>> Do you see the mentally incompetent where you look?
>
>Whenever I see fanatics, I see mentally incompetent people.
>Most people in my society do not give a toss about nations, religions,
>classes, etc. they just care about their personal well-being. They
>are NORMAL people.
>
>> >
>> > > Otherwise, if only certain traits are targeted, some of which
>> > > may be shared with other races or cultures, can one really
>refer
>> > > to a particular anti-(ethnic/racial)ism?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2. Soviet system had little in common with theoretical Marxism
>except
>> > the
>> > > > name. It’s obvious the original intent of the founders of the SU
>was to
>> > > > create a communist state. However, that proved unworkable, so they
>> > resorted
>> > > > to a simple political and economical dictatorship in all but the
>name.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > (quoted text deleted)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On the contrary, the lifestyles and attitudes of the Soviet
>> > > leaders clearly indicate that they never intended to follow
>> > > the published tenets of theoretical Marxism…
>> >
>> > My personal experience shows that most of them never even read Marx,
>> > however,I would also oppose the term “theoretical Marxism” since
>Marxism
>> > was never a theory in a strict sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> Come on… Do you suggest that Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, etc.,
>> i.e., the dominant specimens within that regime, were
>> unfamiliar with the writings of Marx?
>
>Yes and no. Lenin was most likely unable to comprehend or unwilling to
>accept early writings of Marx. Lenin searched for ideological tool which
>would have helped him to achieve his ends, he did not go looking for truth.
>Trotsky was pretty primitive thinker, which is more than true especially in
>case of Stalin. Having read 12 volumes of the works of the latter I could
>say that his logic and thoughts never passed the arithmetical logic. I
>would consider A. Bogdanov and Plekhanov as much more capable philosophers
>of the
>period in question.
>
>
>> I think that it would be safe to say that they at least
>> referred to him, if not quoted him often…
>
>If I am allowed to make a joke in reply, then here it goes. In 1940s in
>Paris
>Marx attended a workshop of “Marxist Club” upon leaving which he noted “I
>am not a Marxist”, few years later he became a Marxist indeed.
>
>> >
>> > > Ergo, it was probably apparent to them that the system was
>> > > unworkable from the start.
>> >
>> > Bolshevism (Leninism) is a utilisation of Marxian principles for
>> > ideological
>> > purposes only. What Hitler achieved on the basis of nationalism Lenin
>> > achieved on the basis of class-awareness. Same principle, same crap.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you imply then that, in each case, these sets of principles
>> could have been applied differently, to create workable
>> systems…?
>
>Which “sets”? Marxism is not workable as ideology. No ideology is workable
>in the long run. But Marx’s philosophy contains potential which is still
>being used and realised by philosophers world-wide. Sartre said in 1948 (if
>I am not mistaken about the date), “after Marx we all Marxists.”
>
>>
>> > > It is interesting to speculate whether Engels and Marx
>themselves
>> > > believed in what they were preaching…
>> >
>> > You clearly never read them, have you? Engels was a Trojan horse of
>early
>> > Bolshevism, while Marx (however deeply affected by his influence since
>the
>> > Manifesto) produced some principles, which did open way to a range of
>> > philosophical and social movements. As for believing, I would say that
>> > Engels was more proficient in “infantry tactics” than in any part of
>> > philosophy, while Marx undertook a task, which he was never able to
>> > complete
>> > due to physical and circumstantial restrictions. What he intended to do
>is
>> > clearly stated at the end of part I (or is it part II, could not be
>precise
>> > now, sorry) of his manuscripts of 1842-44. He managed only to address
>one
>> > of the three relations of alienated Self of Man, the lesser important
>one
>> > (Das Kapital). The work is not finished yet, however.
>> >
>> > Danko
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously, a full scale attempt at the implementation of
>> these principles, which were put forth by Engels and Marx,
>> resulted only in the deaths of at least 25 million people
>> on the Ukrainian territory alone, as well as untold depri-
>> vation and suffering of many more millions who had the
>> misfortune to live within the boundaries of this Evil
>> empire…
>>
>> It is intriguing whether Messrs. Engels and Marx had the
>> intelligence to predict the failure of the system to be built
>> on their hypotheses.
>
>Marx did. Look at the Manuscripts mentioned above (forget about Engels). It
>was not system based on Marxism that failed, it was that Marxism fell into
>the trap which was pretty well identified by Marx himself. If you look at
>Plekhanov’s “Our Disagreements”, there is a clear description of the
>scenario of what would have happened and did happen in Russia. The problem
>is that a thinker is also a human being.
>
>> Probably not…, although if true, they would be held culpable
>> in counselling to commit the crime…
>
>Some of them (Marx, Plekhanov, Bogdanov) are culpable of being humans, some
>(Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin) were criminals, and some (Engels) just thought
>they were something.
>
>I am sorry, I have to go. I would try to elaborate on this over weekend.
>
>With respect,
>
>Danko
>
>> GHC
>>

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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:20:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Is this any less fraudulent than the Neil Sher case in the USA???

>Isn’t this the same JEW charged with perjury in connection with the
>Demjanjuk case???

>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:29:13 GMT, Stefan Lemieszewski
> wrote:

>>The following forwarded CP article is posted at the Ukrainian Archive
>>website under the caption “Neal Sher should be sent packing” at:

>>www.ukar.org

>>Neal Sher headed the U.S. Office of Special Investigations (OSI) of the
>>U.S. Department of Justice for many years. Recently, he was hired as a
>>consultant by Anne McLellan, the Canadian Justice Minister.
>>
>>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>>—————————————————————————————-
>>
>>April 28, 1998
>>
>>U.S. Nazi hunter admits he’s under investigation for perjury
>>
>>OTTAWA (CP) — A top Nazi hunter hired to help Canada pursue suspected
>>war criminals is
>>under investigation for perjury by the Justice Department in the United
>>States.
>>
>> Neal Sher, a Washington lawyer, told the Commons justice committee
>>Wednesday that he
>>is being investigated by the Office of Professional Responsibility, a
>>unit of the U.S. Justice Department that handles complaints about
>>attorneys.
>>
>> The allegations date back to 1990 when Sher was director of the
>>U.S. Office of Special Investigations, which is responsible for hunting
>>Nazi war criminals in the United States.
>>
>> The office has been accused of withholding evidence that might have
>>been helpful to the case of Andrija Artukovic, a California resident who
>>was extradited to Yugoslavia for war crimes during the Second World
>>War. Sher said he has been assured that the allegations against him are
>>groundless, but no official verdict has been rendered.
>>
>> John Sims, assistant deputy attorney general, said he was not aware
>>of the investigation when he hired Sher as a consultant to help the
>>federal government track down war criminals.
>>
>> Sims said he found out about it a couple of days ago from a
>>colleague in his department. He said he has not mentioned the fact to
>>Solicitor General Andy Scott.
>>
>> Sher was summoned to appear before the committee at the request of
>>members who say they have been hearing concerns about his role and
>>background.
>>
>> Conservative MP Peter MacKay said Sher should be dismissed from his
>>job advising the federal Justice Department.
>>
>> “It’s a little shocking to think that somebody that is being relied
>>on heavily by the Canadian government is himself under investigation for
>>potential — and I key on the word potential — frauds perpetrated on the
>>court,” said McKay, a former Crown attorney.
>>
>> “It comes as a bit of a disappointment that the Canadian government
>>didn’t do their research first and have that knowledge themselves. I
>>think he should be paid for his advice and sent packing.”
>>
>> Reform MP Jack Ramsay said he was surprised at Sher’s statement
>>that allegations against him are unfounded.
>>
>> “What I found interesting is that investigation is not over and yet
>>he knows the results of it at least in part.”
>>
>> Sims said Sher is working for the Justice Department two or three
>>days a month and gets paid $200 US per hour. He said Sher’s advice has
>>been helpful.
>>
>> Much of the Sher’s testimony before the committee dealt with his
>>role in the extradition from the United States of John Demjanjuk, who
>>was accused of being a Nazi death camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.
>>
>> Demjanjuk was eventually acquitted of war-crimes charges in Israel
>>and returned to Ohio.
>>
>> Sher conceded there were errors in the handling of the case. The
>>Canadian Jewish Conference issued a statement Wednesday strongly
>>endorsing Sher’s engagement as a consultant.
>>
>> “Examining the totality of Mr. Sher’s career at the Office of
>>Special Investigations and after reveals a record of outstanding success
>>and energy in bringing alleged Nazi war criminals to the bar of
>>justice,” the statement said.
>>
>
>On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:42:33 -0500, “Saabirah”
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Ibrahim Dughlas-Gani wrote in message …
>>>
>>>brother Ali, you should stop posting Neo-Nazi literature to usenet. As a
>>>Muslim, you should have nothing to do with evil right wing scum. Zionism
>>>itself may be evil, but Nazism and it’s revived offspring are even worse.
>>>
>>Agreed.
>>
>>waSalaam
>>
>>Saabirah
>>