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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, [email protected] (Doc
>Tavish II) wrote:
>
>>Well I’ll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>Communists and who they were!
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>>Trotsky’s political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief stay at
>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>>At the party’s Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>Results and Prospects.
>>
>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution……
>>
>>Above found at:
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Let’s review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>
>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz’s book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam #13084-6 says on page 377: “Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews.”
>>
>>I now ask: “How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren’t in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish conceived and run totalitarian state!
>>
>>
>>
>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>
>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>
>>Try also:
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>
>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>Try:
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>which states:
>>
>>”Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924.”
>>Let’s see ol’ Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>
>>”Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>common enemies” (Univ. Jew Encyc., Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>Consider this:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>You will run across this:
>>
>>Welcome to the Library of Congress’s Soviet Archives exhibit.
>>
>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress’
>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>Once there try all “exhibits” but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>”The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda — as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC’s
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il’ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military…..”
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>”On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families” (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the ” reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . .”(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish “Bund.”
>>
>>—————————————————————–
>>
>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>
>> Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>> I will find all credible sites
>> that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>> Till the next installment!
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Subject: If JEWS in Hitler Army – How Many Really Died?
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:16:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:09:41 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:28:22 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>>
>>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>> > One MUST question the alleged figure of the damn JEWS as to how many
>>>> > allegedly died in WWII.
>
>>>> Is there no wonder how the dumn Jews have so big influence in the world?
>
>>>> J.B.
>
>>>=================
>>>Presence of Jews in Hitler’s army clearly rules out the story of
>>>exterminatinon. Being in high places they would know that the story is
>>>true and would alert the world through their relatives.
>
>>>They have not done it … little chance that there was Jewish genocide.
>>>Moreover, there are no bones of 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the
>>>chance to cremate.
>
>>>Why Jews are smart and there is no doubt about it?
>
>>>Jew are the oldest people on earth with practical alphabet. Being so
>>>for they became the record keepers and accountants of the world. While
>>>Slavic women looked at Slavic mens muscles in order to be sure that he
>>>will have the strenght to plow and feed her family Jewish maiden looked
>>>in Jewish boys for brains to sustain them.
>
>>>Moreover Catholicizm caused that the smartest boys especially in peasant
>>>families became priests and than the genes of smartnes did not
>>>reproduced. In Rabbis families was just the opposite, the smartest boy
>>>in the shtetle was gettin hand of the smart rabbis daughters.
>
>>>But I do not worry about that. Mere forty years of education given to
>>>the Slavs admixed with Jewish apparatus of terror and the Slavs managed
>>>to launch Sputnik and man space station Mir.
>
>>>Western Europeans were unable to do it.
>>>Pawlikowski
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Subject: Jews in white sex slave trade against Slavic women pt.1
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:54:40 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!
>
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Subject: Jew police zyd. Ordnungdienst-JEWS HELPED NAZIS!!!
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>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:44:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>>>
>
>>>>dddddddddd
>>>>below, Hermie’s cyberthrash
>>>>————-
>>>>md
>
>>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>>>>> > ============
>>>>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>>>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>>>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>>>> > occupation of Poland. The only reason for this question at this time
>>>>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provacatively, Dr.
>>>>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>>>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>>>> > after the war? Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>>>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>>>>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>>>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>>>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitted
>>>>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem. However,
>>>>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>>>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>>>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>>>> > presently in Lithuania.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>>>> > occupation was dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>>>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>>>>> > They were ususally not armed,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>>>>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> > and when armed never given more than five
>>>>> > bullets for their long rifles. Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>>>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>>>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>>>> > the genocide.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>>>>>
>>>>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>>>> > service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>>>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>>>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>>>> > post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>>>> > education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>>>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>>>> > of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>>>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>>>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>>>> > closed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>>>> longer or die now!
>>>>>
>>>>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>>>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!
>>>>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>>>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>>>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>>>> > Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>>>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>>>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>>>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>>>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ————-
>>>>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>>>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki. We found
>>>>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>>>> > dozens of other places. Why you shrink from searching for your
>>>>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>>>> >
>>>>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>>>>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>>>>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>>>>> other people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Herman
>>>>> > ————
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Subject: Zionism and the Third Reich
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On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 01:19:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Zionism and the Third Reich
>
>>Mark Weber
>
>>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>>German
>>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>>”Tel Aviv,” while a
>>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>>years later a traveler
>>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a “metaphysical
>>absurdity.”1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>>little-known chapter of history: The
>>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler’s Third Reich.
>>
>>Common Aims
>>
>>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>>the “Jewish question”: that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>>non-Jewish society? During
>>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>>that Jews and Germans were
>>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>>Germany.
>>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as “Germans
>>of the Jewish faith,” but rather as members of a separate national
>>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>>”Jewish homeland.” They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>>”foreign” country.
>>
>>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>>
>>”The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,”
>>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. “Where it
>>does not exist, it is brought
>>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>>without hate or fear.” The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>>social or religious. “It is a national
>>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>>political issue. . . .”
>>
>>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>>the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.”
>>
>>
>>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>>detailed memorandum to the
>>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>>offered Zionist support in “solving” the vexing “Jewish question.” The
>>first step, it suggested,
>>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>>
>>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one’s own
>>tradition. Zionism
>>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>>
>>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>>Christian and national
>>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>>and collective responsibility . . .
>>
>>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>>
>>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>>realities.
>>
>>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>>cultural domain, we – having been brought up in the German language
>>and German culture – can show an
>> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>>and internal sympathy . . .
>>
>>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>>involved but a real problem
>>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>>especially the German people . . .
>>
>>Boycott propaganda – such as is currently being carried on against
>>Germany in many ways – is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>>
>>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>>disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>>for other peoples.
>>
>>The Federation’s paper, the Jüdische Rundschau (“Jewish Review”),
>>proclaimed the same message: “Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>>Jewish problem and
>>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested.”5 A young
>>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden (“We Jews”), that
>>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant “Jewry for the
>>Jews.” He explained: “No
>>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race.” 6
>>
>>Active Collaboration
>>
>>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>>each group believed was in its own
>>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>>1940-1941, when the Second
>>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>>
>>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>>pulling up roots to begin a new
>>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>>turned to Zionism
>>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation’s
>>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>>were published. “Zionist
>>work was in full swing” in Germany during those years, the
>>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected “in its
>>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists.”7
>>
>>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>>support for Zionism by the
>>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>>Germany’s Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>>self-awareness. Jewish
>>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations – in
>>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>>self-awareness – should be
>>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>>
>>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>>Zionist development there. Based
>>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>>that appeared in late 1934 under
>>the heading “A Nazi Travels to Palestine.” The series expressed great
>>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>>entire world.
>>
>>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>>”pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>>world: the Jewish
>>question.” Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>>
>>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: “The time may not be
>>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>>have been lost to it for
>>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>>goodwill, go with them.”10
>>
>>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>>
>>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>>within Jewry, the so-called
>>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>>
>>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing “strictly
>>kosher food on its ships,
>>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate.” 12
>>
>>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to “reeducate”
>>Germany’s Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>>and the Palestine Question: “Zionists were encouraged to take their
>>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>>Palestine and generally to
>>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them.” 13
>>
>>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>>”The Gestapo did everything in
>>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>>regarding preparations for emigration.” 14
>>
>>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>>adopted the so-called “Nuremberg laws” that prohibited marriages and
>>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>>the Jews an alien minority
>>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>>
>>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>>again possible to
>>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>>new laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>>schools, its own theatre, and its
>>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>>aspects of national life . . .
>>
>>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>>Jewish minority:
>>
>>Jewry’s process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>>relations between the two nations.
>>
>>Georg Kareski, the head of both the “Revisionist” Zionist State
>>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>>Berlin Jewish Community,
>>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>>of 1935: 16
>>
>>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>>living together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>>separation, provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
>> . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>>. . . This interruption
>>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>>point of view, entirely welcome.
>>
>>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>>Congress, told a New
>>York rally in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>>Jewish people a race and we are a race.” 17
>>
>>The Interior Ministry’s Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>>L_sener,
>>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>>November 1935 issue of the
>>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>>
>>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>>resolved today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>>opposition to
>>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>>Zionists, because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>>nationhood.
>>
>>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>>Germany where
>>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>>flag, Jews were specifically
>>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler’s Germany. 19
>>
>>Himmler’s security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>>Haganah official Feivel
>>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>>was kept well informed
>>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>>secret deliveries of German
>>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>>21
>>
>>In the aftermath of the November 1938 “Kristallnacht” outburst of
>>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>>organization to get back on its feet
>>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>>supervision. 22
>>
>>Official Reservations
>>
>>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>>Jewish communities in the
>>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize “their”
>>governments and
>>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>>implacably hostile
>>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>>Zionist “promised land,” a
>>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really “solve” the
>>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>>
>>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>>in June 1937, would not be in Germany’s interest because it would not
>>be able to absorb all
>>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>>a base for international Communism.24
>>
>>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>>tension and conflict between
>>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>>
>>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, “it would
>>nevertheless be a mistake to
>>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>>anti-German agitation of international
>>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>>world.”26 ”
>>
>>The proclamation
>>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine,” warned an
>>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, “would
>>create for Germany a new
>>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>>Near East.”
>>
>>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state “would work to bring
>>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry.”27 In
>>January 1939,
>>
>>Hitler’s new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>>in another circular bulletin that “Germany must regard the formation
>>of a Jewish state as dangerous” because it
>>”would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry.” 28
>>
>>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>>misgivings that his policies might
>>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>>
>>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>>1939. In response, the SS
>>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>>illegal, from Germany
>>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>>1939.
>>
>>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>>
>>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>>”kibbutz” training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>>in Hitler’s Germany. 31
>>
>>The Transfer Agreement
>>
>>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>>German Jews to migrate
>>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>>Ha’avara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933
>>following talks between German
>>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>>
>>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>>fertilizer, and so
>>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>>Jewish-owned Ha’avara
>>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>>his deposit in Germany.
>>
>>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha’avara, which was
>>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>>Palestine oranges were
>>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>>Jewish settlers and
>>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>>
>>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>>the international
>>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha’avara
>>arrangement, stressed that
>>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>>negotiate the pact,
>>pointed out that “the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>>result of the agreement. . . .” 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>>in Switzerland,
>>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>>Zionist “shadow
>>government” in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha’avara,
>>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>>abandonment.
>>
>>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany’s Consul
>>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>>Agreement on several
>>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha’avara monopoly sale of German
>>goods to Palestine through a
>>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>>resented the arrangement.34
>>
>>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>>”foreign exchange sacrifices” that resulted from the Ha’avara. 35
>>
>>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: “There is no doubt that
>>the Ha’avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>>not only the largest source of money
>>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>>products essential for
>>development.” The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>>desirable target country as
>>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>>Minister, it went on, had
>>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>>
>>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>>each time decided
>>to maintain the Ha’avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>>
>>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>>through which Jews in
>>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>>Palestine.38
>>
>>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha’avara. In
>>1937 Poland authorized the
>>Halifin (Hebrew for “exchange”) transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>>arrangements.
>>
>>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>>implementation of these agreements. 39
>>
>>Achievements of Ha’avara
>>
>>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>>through the Ha’avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>>ten percent of Germany’s 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>>made up about 15 percent
>>of Palestine’s 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha’avara emigrants
>>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: “Many of these people,
>>especially in the late 1930s, were
>>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories –
>>indeed rough replicas of their very existence.”40
>>
>>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>>Ha’avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>>pounds or 139.57 million
>>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>>
>>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>>major impact on a
>>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>>out.
>>
>>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>>firm. The influx of Ha’avara goods
>>and capital, concluded Black, “produced an economic explosion in
>>Jewish Palestine” and was “an indispensable factor in the creation of
>>the State of Israel.”42
>>
>>The Ha’avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>>state. A January 1939 German
>>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>>”the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha’avara
>>agreement] contributed to
>>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine.”43
>>
>>Former officials of the Ha’avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>>”The economic activity
>>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>>country’s development.
>>
>>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>>even today in the
>>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara.”44
>>
>>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha’avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha’avara
>>immigrants “decisively
>>contributed” to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>>development of Palestine’s Jewish community.45
>>
>>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>>cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism.
>>Through this pact, Hitler’s Third
>>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>>Jewish development in Palestine.
>>
>>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>>
>>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>>by the radical underground “Fighters for
>>the Freedom of Israel,” better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>>nationalist “National Military Organization” (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>>the group’s attitude toward Britain, which
>>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>>
>>This remarkable Zionist proposal “for the solution of the Jewish
>>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>>the war on the side of
>>Germany” is worth quoting at some length:46
>>
>>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>>requires as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>>by evacuation.(“Jew-free Europe”)
>>
>>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>>achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>>in its historical boundaries.
>>
>>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>>
>>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>>and the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
>>
>>
>>
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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:29:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
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>>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger
>
>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
>Investigations Revenue Canada at:
> telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>
>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>> answer??
>
>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>> who can be reached at:
> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>> [email protected], or
>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
>>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
>>> They are waiting for your complaints
>
>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>
>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?
>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>
>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.
>
>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>
>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>> >OyVey???
>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>
>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>>Check this out!
>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>> >Nizkor Funding
>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>
>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>
>>> The League is working closely
>>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>incidents directly to the National Office.”
>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>> >promote Jewish interests.
>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>
>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>
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>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>
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>
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>
>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>
>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>
>>Please print this form and send to:
>
>>The Nizkor Project
>>c/o
>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>15 Hove Street
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>
>>Name:________________________________________
>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>cheque’s memo section.
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13]
>
>
>>Attention:CHARITIES
>>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>
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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 16:23:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:10:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>>>The Village Voice
>>>22May98
>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World
>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>Art-Smuggling ‘Red Mafia’
>
>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>
>>>In two posh villas outside the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>terrified victims. The mob’s young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>
>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>as New Zealand.
>>
>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a 52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>”Brainy Don”–he holds an economics degree from the University of
>>>Lvov–and until now, he has never been exposed by the media. But the
>>>Voice has obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and Israeli
>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and these documents–as well
>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>law enforcement sources here and abroad–describe him as someone who
>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>
>>>”He’s the most powerful mobster in the world,” crows Monya Elson, who
>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich’s closest
>>>associates and partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>known as Monya’s Brigada, is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>Center in lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>extortions.
>>
>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive money-laundering scheme in
>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>perestroika.
>>
>>>”If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,” boasted
>>>Elson. ”I lived with him. I’m his partner, don’t forget. We are very,
>>>very close friends. I don’t mean close, I mean very, very close. He’s my
>>>best friend.” Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>
>>>Allegations of Mogilevich’s devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow’s
>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ”smugglers’ paradise,” says
>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>Mogilevich’s apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>against terrorism.
>>
>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>Germany, including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>anonymity.
>>
>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>Mogilevich’s chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich’s man from L.A. said the Red
>>>Mafia would dispose of the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>”probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,”
>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>
>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>reached an agreement with the leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of art
>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>
>>>Mogilevich’s operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ”restoration.”
>>>Mogilevich’s men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to an unwitting
>>>Sotheby’s auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>as well as other ”restored” objects back to Moscow.
>>
>>>MOGILEVICH’S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of the same
>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>
>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>assets–rubles, furniture, and art–cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ”hard”
>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>profits.
>>
>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum import-export company, Arbat
>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners–with a
>>>quarter share of the company–was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>in upstate New York.
>>
>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received Israeli
>>>citizenship. He ”succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel” and
>>>”developing significant and influential [political] ties,” says an
>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>
>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and Kiev–called the
>>>”Black and White Clubs”–that has become one of the world’s foremost
>>>centers of prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI documents. The Black
>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich’s operations. He
>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization, in the mode of
>>>a traditional American mafia family. Indeed, many of the organization’s
>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>
>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary’s arms industry.
>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>
>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>
>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>the London branch of Banque Francaise De L’orean.
>>
>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>established in 1991 by two Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>industry, who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>
>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>Israel.
>>
>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn’t sustain his empire
>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>documented example of a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>Mogilevich’s top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>
>>>In Europe and Russia, the ”corruption of police and public officials
>>>has been part of the Semion Mogilevich Organization’s modus operandi,”
>>>says a classified FBI document. ”The corruptive influence of the
>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking information for use in the
>>>Russian political campaign.” An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence. Mogilevich also paid
>>>off a Russian judge to secure Vyacheslav Ivankov’s early release from a
>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>according to U.S. court records and classified FBI documents.
>>
>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>contract with Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian mob.
>>>The charges were made by several sources, including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>highly regarded Belgium police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND, police in Belgium,
>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>investigate the ”Brainy Don.” If the television report is accurate,
>>>one possible motive for BND’s deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ”pulled their people
>>>out of Moscow because they didn’t like the level of cooperation they
>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the Russian mob.”
>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>their rivals.
>>
>>>MOGILEVICH’S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>says a classified FBI report. He has set up companies in Los
>>>Angeles–FNJ Trade Management–and Newton, Pennsylvania–YBM Magnex
>>>International–as well as dozens of shell companies, which have
>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>Mogilevich’s financial operations.
>>
>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of the organized-crime
>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI, IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM’s
>>>offices in Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with Canadian and
>>>U.S. police citing the company’s alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>crime. YBM is publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and two
>>>days before Friday’s raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>Canadian authorities.
>>
>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>out why the INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he’s on the department’s
>>>watch list of international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson and Ivankov.
>>
>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of one of the most
>>>ruthless organized-crime families in recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>”We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>this stuff.” He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn’t believe them.
>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>
>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in a New York
>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>the first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of money controlled
>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved through a mafia-controlled
>>>bank in Chelsea.) Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star Viennese hotel,
>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>
>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich’s organization and has arranged contract
>>>killings here, supplying the weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>government’s charges, and that they are ”total bullshit.” Although he
>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich’s son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg’s business card identified his
>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>released.
>>
>>>Oleg’s uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>New York City, arrived in the Big Apple after having survived a
>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>though Vladimir Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>Russian mob.
>>
>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ”He also ingratiates himself
>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>groups’ activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good citizen,”
>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with his strong leadership
>>>qualities, his acute financial skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>associates, and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far made
>>>the ”Brainy Don” impervious to prosecution.
>>
>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.
>>
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On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>Zionism and the Third Reich
>Mark Weber
>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>”Tel Aviv,” while a
>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>years later a traveler
>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a “metaphysical
>absurdity.”1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>little-known chapter of history: The
>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler’s Third Reich.
>
>Common Aims
>
>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the “Jewish question”: that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During
>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>that Jews and Germans were
>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>Germany.
>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as “Germans
>of the Jewish faith,” but rather as members of a separate national
>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>”Jewish homeland.” They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>”foreign” country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>
>”The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,”
>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. “Where it
>does not exist, it is brought
>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>without hate or fear.” The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>social or religious. “It is a national
>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue. . . .”
>
>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.”
>
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>detailed memorandum to the
>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>offered Zionist support in “solving” the vexing “Jewish question.” The
>first step, it suggested,
>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one’s own
>tradition. Zionism
>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>and collective responsibility . . .
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>realities.
>
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>cultural domain, we – having been brought up in the German language
>and German culture – can show an
> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>and internal sympathy . . .
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>especially the German people . . .
>
>Boycott propaganda – such as is currently being carried on against
>Germany in many ways – is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>for other peoples.
>
>The Federation’s paper, the Jüdische Rundschau (“Jewish Review”),
>proclaimed the same message: “Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>Jewish problem and
>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested.”5 A young
>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden (“We Jews”), that
>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant “Jewry for the
>Jews.” He explained: “No
>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race.” 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>each group believed was in its own
>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>1940-1941, when the Second
>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>turned to Zionism
>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation’s
>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>were published. “Zionist
>work was in full swing” in Germany during those years, the
>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected “in its
>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists.”7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>support for Zionism by the
>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>Germany’s Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>self-awareness. Jewish
>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations – in
>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>self-awareness – should be
>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>Zionist development there. Based
>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>that appeared in late 1934 under
>the heading “A Nazi Travels to Palestine.” The series expressed great
>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world.
>
>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>”pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>world: the Jewish
>question.” Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: “The time may not be
>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>have been lost to it for
>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>goodwill, go with them.”10
>
>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>within Jewry, the so-called
>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing “strictly
>kosher food on its ships,
>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate.” 12
>
>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to “reeducate”
>Germany’s Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>and the Palestine Question: “Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to
>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them.” 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>”The Gestapo did everything in
>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>regarding preparations for emigration.” 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called “Nuremberg laws” that prohibited marriages and
>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>the Jews an alien minority
>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>new laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>schools, its own theatre, and its
>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>aspects of national life . . .
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>Jewish minority:
>
>Jewry’s process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>relations between the two nations.
>
>Georg Kareski, the head of both the “Revisionist” Zionist State
>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>Berlin Jewish Community,
>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>of 1935: 16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>living together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>separation, provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
> . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>. . . This interruption
>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>Congress, told a New
>York rally in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race.” 17
>
>The Interior Ministry’s Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>L_sener,
>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>November 1935 issue of the
>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>resolved today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>opposition to
>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>Zionists, because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>Germany where
>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>flag, Jews were specifically
>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler’s Germany. 19
>
>Himmler’s security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>Haganah official Feivel
>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>was kept well informed
>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>secret deliveries of German
>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>21
>
>In the aftermath of the November 1938 “Kristallnacht” outburst of
>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>organization to get back on its feet
>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>Jewish communities in the
>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize “their”
>governments and
>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>implacably hostile
>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>Zionist “promised land,” a
>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really “solve” the
>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>in June 1937, would not be in Germany’s interest because it would not
>be able to absorb all
>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>a base for international Communism.24
>
>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between
>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, “it would
>nevertheless be a mistake to
>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>anti-German agitation of international
>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>world.”26 ”
>
>The proclamation
>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine,” warned an
>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, “would
>create for Germany a new
>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>Near East.”
>
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state “would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry.”27 In
>January 1939,
>
>Hitler’s new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>in another circular bulletin that “Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous” because it
>”would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry.” 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>misgivings that his policies might
>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>1939. In response, the SS
>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>illegal, from Germany
>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>1939.
>
>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>”kibbutz” training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>in Hitler’s Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>German Jews to migrate
>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Ha’avara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933
>following talks between German
>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>fertilizer, and so
>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Ha’avara
>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>his deposit in Germany.
>
>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha’avara, which was
>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>Palestine oranges were
>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>Jewish settlers and
>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>the international
>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha’avara
>arrangement, stressed that
>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>negotiate the pact,
>pointed out that “the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>result of the agreement. . . .” 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>in Switzerland,
>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>Zionist “shadow
>government” in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha’avara,
>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany’s Consul
>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>Agreement on several
>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha’avara monopoly sale of German
>goods to Palestine through a
>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34
>
>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>”foreign exchange sacrifices” that resulted from the Ha’avara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: “There is no doubt that
>the Ha’avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>not only the largest source of money
>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>products essential for
>development.” The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>desirable target country as
>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>Minister, it went on, had
>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>each time decided
>to maintain the Ha’avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>through which Jews in
>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>Palestine.38
>
>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha’avara. In
>1937 Poland authorized the
>Halifin (Hebrew for “exchange”) transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>arrangements.
>
>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>implementation of these agreements. 39
>
>Achievements of Ha’avara
>
>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha’avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>ten percent of Germany’s 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>made up about 15 percent
>of Palestine’s 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha’avara emigrants
>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: “Many of these people,
>especially in the late 1930s, were
>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories –
>indeed rough replicas of their very existence.”40
>
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>Ha’avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>pounds or 139.57 million
>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>
>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>major impact on a
>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>out.
>
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>firm. The influx of Ha’avara goods
>and capital, concluded Black, “produced an economic explosion in
>Jewish Palestine” and was “an indispensable factor in the creation of
>the State of Israel.”42
>
>The Ha’avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>state. A January 1939 German
>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>”the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha’avara
>agreement] contributed to
>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine.”43
>
>Former officials of the Ha’avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>”The economic activity
>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>country’s development.
>
>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>even today in the
>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara.”44
>
>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha’avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha’avara
>immigrants “decisively
>contributed” to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>development of Palestine’s Jewish community.45
>
>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism.
>Through this pact, Hitler’s Third
>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>Jewish development in Palestine.
>
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>by the radical underground “Fighters for
>the Freedom of Israel,” better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>nationalist “National Military Organization” (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>the group’s attitude toward Britain, which
>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>
>This remarkable Zionist proposal “for the solution of the Jewish
>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>the war on the side of
>Germany” is worth quoting at some length:46
>
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>requires as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>by evacuation.(“Jew-free Europe”)
>
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>in its historical boundaries.
>
>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>and the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
>
>
>
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Subject: How many Polish were murdered by JEW/KGB at Katin’?
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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, [email protected] (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin’ were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin’ is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong – please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I’ve find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>”Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin’s orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis.
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments.
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin’s order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the “Katyn Massacre”.
>>
>>(…)
>>
>>………………………………………
>>
>>
>> Pawel Jedrzejewski [email protected]
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, [email protected] (Real Name:)
>wrote:
>> We need to re-orient it, though,
>>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>>jewish contrived wars,
>>————Reply Separator—————-
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message
>><[email protected]>, NSWPP
>>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi
>>death camp of Auschwitz.
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups.
>
>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,”
>>she added.
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.
>
>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent,
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near
>>the site.
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity
>>of the complex.
>
>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a
>>nationalist uproar.
>
>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.
>
>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.
>
>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be
>>negotiated.
>
>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”
>
>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec,
>>“But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less
>>frequently.
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by
>>the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs,
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the
>>extermination campaign.
>
>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”
>
>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are
>>also on the agenda.
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,”
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.
>
>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating
>>dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.
>
>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a
>>leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??
>
>-88-
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On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London’s History
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>Revealed: The men accused in
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38,
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of
>>what Mr Field described as ‘an extended family’ about
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill,
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter,
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>’This investigation is without foundation and is a complete
>>waste of taxpayers’ money,’ he insisted. ‘All of our finances
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>’It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism.
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>’When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed.
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.’
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: ‘He has no
>>comment to make.’ Eichenstein lists his official home
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of
>>the men’s companies con-firmed that they had been contacted
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a
>>network of companies and properties associated
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein
>>are within a stone’s throw of each other on the Stamford
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein’s home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent – patrol cars are
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids
>>on four houses in April – is seen by Mr Field as the first
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to ‘name and shame’
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a
>>’revival of common decencies’.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised
>>housing benefit rackets in London – an initiative which
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: ‘We are going for the big boys, while
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in
>>Britain today.’
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
>>
>>————————————–
>>
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:44:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>>
>>>dddddddddd
>>>below, Hermie’s cyberthrash
>>>————-
>>>md
>>>
>>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>>
>>>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>>>> > ============
>>>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>>> > occupation of Poland. The only reason for this question at this time
>>>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provacatively, Dr.
>>>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>>> > after the war? Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>>> >
>>>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>>>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitted
>>>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem. However,
>>>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>>> > presently in Lithuania.
>>>> >
>>>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>>> > occupation was dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>>>> > They were ususally not armed,
>>>>
>>>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>>>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> > and when armed never given more than five
>>>> > bullets for their long rifles. Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>>> > the genocide.
>>>>
>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>>>>
>>>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>>> > service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>>> > post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>>> > education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>>> >
>>>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>>> > of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>>> > closed.
>>>>
>>>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>>> longer or die now!
>>>>
>>>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!
>>>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>>> >
>>>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>>> > Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>>> >
>>>> > ————-
>>>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>>>> >
>>>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki. We found
>>>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>>> > dozens of other places. Why you shrink from searching for your
>>>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>>> >
>>>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>>>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>>>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>>>> other people.
>>>>
>>>> Herman
>>>> > ————
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>On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:33:05 GMT, [email protected] the maggot
>apologist for the Jew Christkillers wrote:
>From deja News some interesting comments worthy of more discussion.
>On 29 Sep 1997 09:42:03 GMT, [email protected](NSWPP) wrote:
>> 1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>demographic statistics.
>
>> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>
>> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>WORLD WAR TWO?
>
>> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>race or national origin alone.
>
>
>> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>
>> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>internment once the war broke out.
>
>> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>been fully justified.
>
>
>> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>
>> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>
>
>> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>
>> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
>
>> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>
>
>> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>
>> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>
>
>> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>
>> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>
>
>> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>
>> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>commonly used and available today.
>
>
>> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>
>> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>cross examined.
>
>
>> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>
>> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>only are employed.
>
>
>> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>
>> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>
>
>> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>
>> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>million figure as well.
>
>
>> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>NOT KNOW?
>
>> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>all during the war that such an event was occurring.
>
>
>> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>DURING THE WAR?
>
>> About 300,000.
>
>
>> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>
>> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>
>
>> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>DIED?
>
>> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>
>
>> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>
>> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>
>
>> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>
>> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>
>> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>
>> About two hours.
>
>
>> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>
>> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>typhus and other diseases.
>>
>
>> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>
>> About 430,600.
>
>
>> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>
>> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>when in heavy operation.
>
>
>> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>CORPSE?
>
>> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>
>
>> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>
>> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>anywhere else in Europe.
>
>
>> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>
>> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>burned.
>
>
>> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>
>> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>
>> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>
>
>> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>
>> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>published text.
>
>> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>
>> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>
>> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>
>> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>
>
>> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>
>> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>
>
>> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>
>> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>Zip. Nada.
>
>
>> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>DURING THE WAR?
>
>> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>to silence him.
>
>
>> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>
>> Slightly less than four million.
>
>
>> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>NAZIS?
>
>> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>kill them.
>
>
>> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>
>> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>they are all accounted for.
>
>> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>TODAY?
>
>> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>
>
>> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>
>> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>creative and financial sectors of film making.
>
>> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>
>
>> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> Over 100, with more in the works.
>
>
>> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>
>> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>
>
>> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>
>> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>
>> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>prison and torture in Germany.
>
>> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>
>> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>
>> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>REVISIONISTS?
>
>> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>
>
>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>[email protected] – W.S.
>sven88
>
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Your article is but one of many recently revealing JEW perfidy!!!
On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
wrote:
>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>
>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>> people.
>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>> irgun43
>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>> illegaly.
>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>> in Israel.
>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!
On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 03:15:27 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>***************************
>Traffickers’ New Cargo:
>Naive Slavic Women
>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>***************************
>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>tops of tables.
>
>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>eyes.
>
>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>you and bring you back.”
>
>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>the robust global economy.
>
>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>
>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>into Western Europe alone.
>
>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>
>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>really happen at all.”
>
>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>
>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>
>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>countries and, usually, false documents.
>
>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>wages they could never imagine at home.
>
>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>
>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>are ubiquitous.
>
>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>
>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>
>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>the violence that awaits them.
>
>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>captors.
>
>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>
>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>
>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>average price of just under $1,000.
>
>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
> time.”
>
>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>very light.”
>
>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>against the sale of human beings.
>
>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>
>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>
>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>
>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>cell phone.
>
>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>Soviet Union.
>
>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>
>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>is all we need.”
>
>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>routine part of her job.
>
>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>
>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>
>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>
>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>become a matter of survival.
>
>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>
>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>find to save themselves.
>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>are go to men. So they leave.”
>
>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>
>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>
>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>
>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>arrested.”
>
>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>
>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>
>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>employed illegally there now.
>
>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>
>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>
>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>which had enslaved them.”
>
>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>
>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>
>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>now.”
>
>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>
>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>
>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>factory for no wages?”
>
>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>
>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>I could ever get at home.”
>
>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>
>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>
>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>
>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>
>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>
>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>
>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>ready to do anything for money.”
>
>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>
>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>laughed heartily.
>
>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>
>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>
>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>documents are taken to prison.
>
>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>
>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>did nothing to hide their identities.
>
>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>protection program.
>
>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>
>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>
>
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:16:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:09:41 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:28:22 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>>
>>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>> > One MUST question the alleged figure of the damn JEWS as to how many
>>>> > allegedly died in WWII.
>
>>>> Is there no wonder how the dumn Jews have so big influence in the world?
>
>>>> J.B.
>
>>>=================
>>>Presence of Jews in Hitler’s army clearly rules out the story of
>>>exterminatinon. Being in high places they would know that the story is
>>>true and would alert the world through their relatives.
>
>>>They have not done it … little chance that there was Jewish genocide.
>>>Moreover, there are no bones of 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the
>>>chance to cremate.
>
>>>Why Jews are smart and there is no doubt about it?
>
>>>Jew are the oldest people on earth with practical alphabet. Being so
>>>for they became the record keepers and accountants of the world. While
>>>Slavic women looked at Slavic mens muscles in order to be sure that he
>>>will have the strenght to plow and feed her family Jewish maiden looked
>>>in Jewish boys for brains to sustain them.
>
>>>Moreover Catholicizm caused that the smartest boys especially in peasant
>>>families became priests and than the genes of smartnes did not
>>>reproduced. In Rabbis families was just the opposite, the smartest boy
>>>in the shtetle was gettin hand of the smart rabbis daughters.
>
>>>But I do not worry about that. Mere forty years of education given to
>>>the Slavs admixed with Jewish apparatus of terror and the Slavs managed
>>>to launch Sputnik and man space station Mir.
>
>>>Western Europeans were unable to do it.
>>>Pawlikowski
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Subject: Jews in white sex slave trade against Slavic women pt.1
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:54:40 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!
>
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Subject: Zionism and the Holohoax
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On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:58:53 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 26 Nov 1998 02:04:42 GMT, [email protected] (Marek13) wrote:
>>The proper word is “Holocaust.” Can’t you spell English?
>The proper term is HOLOHOAX, in connection with the extortion of
>billions of dollars from gullible governments, and institutions, such
>as from Switzerland!!!
>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, “Bassam Kouatli”
>
>
>>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>prominence.
>>
>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>with the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>Jewish state.
>>
>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the ‘Jewish
>>problem’. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>Jews.
>>
>>The best example of this was the ‘Transfer Agreement’ of 1934. Immediately
>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>
>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>’Jewish problem’, and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>
>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently
>>being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence unZionist,
>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build…
>>
>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>was the signature of the ‘Transfer Agreement’ with the Nazi authorities
>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>to get Germany’s Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis – ED).
>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts ‘helping’ Jews
>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>
>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the ‘new Jew’ of Zionism, a
>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>
>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>
>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen’s play PERDITION
>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>names were Hungarian – how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>
>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s
>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>
>>The Committee faced a simple choice – to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>
>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>destruction: the trains of ‘prominents’ which Eichmann promised to Kastner –
>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>
>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>Auschwitz.
>>
>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>
>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>
>>
>>
>>You’ll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: JEW RITUAL MURDER – CHICAGO, 1955 (UPDATED)
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On 8 Jan 1999 14:35:52 GMT, [email protected] (LDenterint) wrote:
>>
Subject: JEWISH RITUAL MURDER – CHICAGO, 1955 (UPDATED)
>>From: Ed Kadach
>>Date: Fri, Jan 8, 1999 00:14 EST
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>>>Bear in mind that the usual season of solicitation for killing White
>>children by Jew Ritual Murderers is Purim and Passover. Attentive
>>parents are advised to keep your children indoors of an evening
>>at those seasons. And, keep them as far away as possible from
>>perverted Ashkenazic self-styled “jews” at ALL times.>>JEWISH RITUAL MURDER – CHICAGO, 1955 (UPDATED)
>>
>> [Note: This article, originally sent out on February 6th,
>>1997, has since been updated with information from the book
>>GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER by two veteran Chicago crime reporters,
>>Ed Baumann and John O’Brien. ]
>>
>> The Jewish community in Chicago, one of the wealthiest
>>in the world, has always exercised an extremely powerful degree
>>of behind the scenes influence in the Windy City, an influence
>>just as pervasive and powerful (if not more so) as that of the
>>Italian organized crime syndicates, all the more sinister for
>>being far less visible.
>>
>> Between October of 1955 and December of 1956,
>>a total of five White children, three young
>>boys including two brothers and a friend and two
>>teenaged sisters, were abducted and murdered in a manner
>>which was suggestive of Jewish ritual sacrifice, the
>>liturgical object of which is to obtain Gentile blood
>>to mix with the matzoh used in several esoteric Jewish
>>religious ceremonies such as Purim, Passover, and
>>Kol Nidre at Yom Kippur. The murder victims were
>>John and Anton Schuessler, Jr., Robert Peterson, and
>>Barbara and Patricia Grimes. Both cases remain officially
>>unsolved despite hundreds of man-hours of investigation
>>by the Chicago police. The Grimes case in fact featured
>>on an episode of UNSOLVED MYSTERIES several years ago,
>>but the show produced no further leads.
>>
>> The cases shared certain characterstics in common.
>>The boys, aged 14, 13, and 11 respectively, and the girls
>>aged twelve and fifteen were found nude, and yet none had
>>been sexually assaulted. According to the pathologists’ reports
>>they had been kept alive for some time after they were
>>reported missing, although the unusually cold weather in which
>>the girls’ bodies were exposed impeded fixing an exact time of
>>death. The corpses showed ligature marks on the wrists and ankles,
>>indicating that they had been tied or restrained. All the victims
>>had been tortured with mostly small, shallow cuts and puncture wounds,
>>none sufficient to cause death of itself. The official cause of death
>>was listed as blood loss and shock due to blood loss and exposure,
>>although 14 year-old Bobby Peterson appears to have resisted
>>his attackers and was beaten on the head with a blunt
>>instrument and strangled into unconsciousness by strong
>>hands with “fingernails like claws” which left marks on his throat.
>>All the childrens’ bodies were “drained of blood”.
>>
>> Further peculiarities were observed in the PATTERN
>>of the torture. The two female victims had been tormented by
>>repeated puncture wounds on the upper torso, thighs and buttocks,
>>suggesting a sadistic sexual element in the killers’ motivations,
>>but the two youngest male victims, the Schuesslers, had been
>>transfixed through the hands, wrists, and feet by larger weapons
>>similar to nails or a carpenter’s awl, inflicting wounds very
>>similar to the so-called stigmata, the wounds of Christ.
>>The eyes and mouths of the boys had also been mutilated in
>>a manner never publicly released.
>>
>> Another interesting forensic aspect of the case
>>was that the boys’ wounds contained traces of an unspecified
>>GRAIN, of all things. Flour for the matzoh? Floor mat patterns
>>imbedded in the flesh of one victim indicated that his body had been
>>transported in a Packard automobile, a luxury car popular among
>>the wealthiest people of the time which was no longer made and
>>which indicated someone with money enough to buy and maintain such
>>an upmarket vehicle.
>>
>> What is interesting about these cases is not the unsolved
>>murders themselves, but the view which for once we are given of
>>the lengths to which the Jews will go to cover up suspected ritual
>>murder cases. In view of the intense public interest in the case
>>there was of course a lot of media reporting. The Chicago Daily News
>>published an afternoon edition detailing the ritualistic nature of
>>the wounds and speculating that members of a “religious cult” might
>>be involved. Within ten minutes of the edition hitting the street,
>>trucks were sent out to bring them all in; all copies were ripped
>>off the newstands and taken back to the News building where they
>>were burned.
>>
>> Eight copies of this issue were obtained by a woman
>>named Mrs. Lyle Clark Van Hyning who published a conservative
>>journal called Women’s Voice. When she called the Daily News
>>office to ask why the paper had been recalled she was told that
>>there had been “complaints” about it and it was likely to cause
>>”racial unrest”. Mrs. Van Hyning had her own suspicions and sent
>>the father of the two murdered boys, Anton Schuessler Sr.,
>>a copy of Arnold Leese’s definitive work JEWISH RITUAL MURDER.
>>[Available by e-mail from NSNet]
>>
>> Schuessler read the booklet and was stunned by what
>>he learned. He then made the mistake of going to the police
>>and demanding that the possible ritual murder angle in his
>>sons’ death be investigated. The Cook County Sheriff of the
>>time was a Jew named Joseph Lohman, and he immediately placed
>>Mr. Schuessler under arrest on suspicion of killing his own
>>children. A Jewish deputy named Horowitz was sent to the
>>Schuessler home with a party of men; having ransacked the
>>house looking for “evidence”, Horowitz then placed Mrs.
>>Eleanor Schuessler and her family under virtual house arrest,
>>forbidding them to leave the house or speak with anyone on the
>>phone lest they “spread rumors about the Jews.”
>>The two Chicago detectives in charge of the case, Irish
>>lieutenants James Lynch and James McMahon, later complained
>>angrily that Lohman’s Cook County investigators had
>>destroyed evidence, threatened and tampered with witnesses,
>>and generally impeded their efforts to solve the case at
>>every turn.
>>
>> Anton Schuessler, Sr. took a lie detector test which
>>completely cleared him, as well as proving that he had an
>>ironclad alibi for the murders. Instead of releasing him, the
>>authorities committed Arnold Schuessler to a private mental
>>institution in Des Plaines, Illinois operated by a Dr. Leon
>>Steinfeld. Mr. Schuessler was rushed right into electroshock
>>treatment, where he died the same afternoon he arrived at
>>the “sanitarium”.
>>
>> There was sufficient public outcry over the
>>bereaved father’s strange death so that a public inquest
>>into Schuessler’s case was held and Dr. Steinfeld forced
>>to testify. He stated that Arnold Schuessler was suffering
>>from “hallucinations” and “paranoid delusions” that “certain
>>people were out to get him.” Steinfeld claimed that the
>>elder Schuessler had died of a heart attack. (Schuessler
>>was 42 years old and had no previous history of heart
>>trouble.)
>>
>> In 1955, and even in Chicago, there were still a few
>>honest public officials left, one of them being the Cook County
>>Coroner, a crusty old Irishman named Dr. Thomas McCarron who
>>was also a qualified psychiatrist. McCarron knew Dr. Steinfeld
>>of old. During World War Two, Steinfeld had been prosecuted
>>for giving Jewish boys facing the draft callup various legal
>>and illegal drugs which would give them heart fibrillations,
>>fill their lungs with liquid to simulate tuberculosis, give
>>them noxious skin conditions, etc. so they could avoid
>>military service. Steinfeld allegedly collected $2000 per
>>head for each Yiddishe Mama’s Little Bubbeleh he spared from
>>having to go face the Nazis’ cold steel and hot lead.
>>
>>
>> Dr. McCarron called Steinfeld a liar and a charlatan
>>and turned all the documents in the case over to the district
>>attorney, recommending that Steinfeld be prosecuted for perjury
>>and murder. He also bitterly denounced Steinfeld to the newspapers
>>and publicly stated his view that Arnold Schuessler had been murdered.
>>In response he received an official order from the district attorney
>>to make no more public comment on the case. Several nights later,
>>to emphasize the serious nature of the warning, a small bomb blew
>>the front door off McCarron’s house.
>>
>> But there was at least some belated justice. Several
>>days after the inquest closed, Leon Steinfeld fled the country.
>>He flew to Switzerland for a “rest cure” and one morning was
>>found hanging in his hotel room, an alleged suicide. Jewish
>>newspaper columnist Irv Kupcinet established a “sympathy fund”
>>and shortly thereafter presented Arnold Schuessler’s widow,
>>the mother of the murdered children, with $100,000 raised
>>from Chicago’s Jewish community—an immense sum of money in
>>1955-56, worth easily a couple of million today, and a very
>>strange gesture for Jews to make to a Gentile crime victim,
>>a German at that, unless it was to buy silence.
>>
>> There may have been one final murder connected with
>>this ghastly case. British author Arnold Leese was provided with
>>massive amounts of news clippings and information, including a
>>transcript of the inquest, by his correspondents in Chicago, and
>>he was at work on a definitive account of the Schuessler case as
>>one of the best documented incidents of Jewish ritual murder in
>>modern times when he suddenly died in the spring of 1956. None of
>>the Schuessler papers, which he had been working on and which he
>>showed to a number of friends and visitors, were found anywhere
>>in his possession when his effects were inventoried after his
>>death. The last loose end was tied up.
>>
>>One looks at those sad little faces on the milk cartons
>>today, and one can’t help but wonder…..
>>< >From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:39:52 EST 1999
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Subject: Poles Fight for Auschwitz Crosses
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>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, [email protected] (Real Name:)
>wrote:>> We need to re-orient it, though,
>>to the countless Aryan lives taken in
>>jewish contrived wars,>>————Reply Separator—————-
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message
>><[email protected]>, NSWPP
>>wrote: >>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi
>>death camp of Auschwitz.
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups.
>
>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,”
>>she added.
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.
>
>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent,
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near
>>the site.
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity
>>of the complex.
>
>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a
>>nationalist uproar.
>
>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.
>
>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.
>
>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be
>>negotiated.
>
>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”
>
>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec,
>>“But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less
>>frequently.
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by
>>the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs,
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the
>>extermination campaign.
>
>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”
>
>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are
>>also on the agenda.
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,”
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.
>
>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating
>>dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.
>
>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a
>>leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??
>
>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??
>
>-88-From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:39:52 EST 1999
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Subject: Remembering Ukraine’s Holocaust by JEWS!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.russian:105069 soc.culture.ukrainian:45698 soc.culture.polish:137218 soc.culture.europe:144879 soc.culture.baltics:17669On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 01:44:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, [email protected] wrote:>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998
>>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor>>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet,
>>the 65th anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.
>>
>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent
>>farmers – called kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine’s growing spirit of nationalism.
>>
>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.
>>
>>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number,
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death – mass
>>starvation.
>>
>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)
>>
>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger,
>>cold and sickness.
>>
>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance.
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped
>>supervise the slaughter.
>>
>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets,
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant
>>children.
>>
>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB’s archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine’s population was
>>exterminated.
>>
>>Millions of victims
>>
>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.
>>
>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine,
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering.
>
>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??
>
>
>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region’s innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.
>>
>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe’s Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust,
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world’s gaze. But
>>Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>>
>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty’s lies.
>>
>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime –
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.
>>
>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who
>>Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,” murdered four times more people
>>than Adolf Hitler.
>>
>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and
>>enjoying a generous state pension.
>>
>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: [email protected].
>>
>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: [email protected].
>
>
>It seems that even a respected jewish author/writer is admitting that
>it was the JEWS with the CHEKA/forerunners of the KGB who murdered
>more than 25 million Ukrainians!!!From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:39:53 EST 1999
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Subject: How Many Jews Really Died??
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.polish:137219 soc.culture.russian:105071 soc.culture.baltics:17670 soc.culture.ukrainian:45700 soc.culture.palestine:58186On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:53:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>The news article has been recorded by the Seattle Times newspaper in
>the USA, as well as the Telegraph in Britain, as cited in prior
>articles.>If you can read, then just visit their websites and see the original
>texts.>On 26 Apr 1998 06:12:59 GMT, [email protected] (SBobrow940) wrote:
>>Second: your reference material presumably written by certain
>>Brian Rigg does not show during search of Internet libraries.
>>Provide detailed information on your “professor” and the “book”,
>>including the publisher and the year.
>>Slawomir Bobrowski
>
>
>>>Subject: Re: How Many Jews Really Died??
>>>From: [email protected]
>>>Date: Sat, Apr 25, 1998 22:34 EDT
>>>On 25 Apr 1998 16:44:07 GMT, [email protected] (SBobrow940) wrote:
>
>>>>First of all, how do you know how many Jews served in the Reich military
>>>under
>>>>Hitler?
>
>>>Read the referenced articles detailed, from records of the Wehrmacht,
>>>researched by a British professor, among others, and well reported
>>>worldwide.
>
>>>Perhaps instead of making racial ad hominem comments, you may wish to
>>>comment directly on the points documented??
>
>>>If there were so many JEWs in the German military, how can honest
>>>people claim they were victims of an alleged holohoax?
>
>>>They had to volunteer for the military, and certainly they and their
>>>families deserve none of the money being extorted from nations now!!!
>
>
>>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 20:46:30 -0500, Tom Grandwrote:
>>>>William Markiewicz wrote:
>
>>>>> For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>>> Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>>>> Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>>>> http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>>>>Nice magazine even if it does have a Jewish slant. However, since you
>>>>are Jewish, I respect your right to be proud of your people. You should
>>>>be.
>
>>>>However, I disagree with your numbers.
>
>>>>”All those Jews who had no interest in counting themselves and weren’t
>>>>counted by any census – simply vanished fifty years ago. They joined the
>>>>Celts in the anonymity. The Nazis had an easy job detecting them;
>>>>anybody who couldn’t present baptismal certificate for three generations
>>>>back, was automatically classified as a Jew. In light of all this, I
>>>>believe that the supposed six million may be only a tip of the iceberg.
>>>>What was the real number of Jews killed? Twelve million? Eighteen
>>>>million? We will never know.”
>
>>>>Yes. We will NEVER know.
>
>>>>However, I might suggest that you look at the number of Jews who made it
>>>>to Israel. Millions of them came there. And millions also came to
>>>>America. Since there were only about 6 million Jews in all of Europe,
>>>>most of them probably left and survived.
>
>>>>Of course, many other races were affected also by the war. It is
>>>>estimated that for each Jew who perished in a Nazi work camp, 4-5 other
>>>>persons died–e.g., Russians, Poles, Priests, Hungarians, Romanians,
>>>>Ukranians, none of whom were Jewish.
>
>>>>In addition, there is never anything at Niz Whore or in the Holocaust
>>>>Museum about the atrocities committed by Jews all over Europe,
>>>>especially in the Soviet Union where they arranged and ran the communist
>>>>party. Nothing is said about the 35 million Christians killed by the
>>>>Jewish Commissar Kaganovich. Nothing is said about Beria, a Jew, and the
>>>>head fo the NKVD, the man who ran the investigations and presentations
>>>>at the Nuremberg Trial having been the man who killed the 25,000 Polish
>>>>Officers at the Katyn Forest and who then placed the blamed, FALSELY, on
>>>>the Germans both in Poland and at the Nuremberg Trial.
>
>>>sperati wrote:
>>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> —————————————————————————
>
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>
>>>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>>>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>
>>>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:39:54 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: Jews reopen trade in white slaves
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.baltics:17681 soc.culture.russian:105114 soc.culture.polish:137257 soc.culture.malaysia:234878 soc.culture.palestine:58203On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:59:21 -0500, ipm
wrote:
>iwraw wrote:>> PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN OCCURS ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS AN
>> ORGANISED CRIME. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE.>> No country/race is more or less culpable. Do not focus on this as an issue
>> of race. It isn’t just Israel but Thailand,
>> India,Nepal,USA,Netherlands,Japan….everywhere.>> Furthermore,women who are involved in the sex trade should not be punished
>> for it–that is what you suggest Israel should do?>Jews have been prominant in the white slave trade for a long time:
>”The Jews in this particular sphere of activity far outnumbered all the other
>’dealers’…The Jewish trafficker in women is the most terrible of all
>profiteers of human vice; if the Jew could only be eliminated, the traffic in
>women would shrink, and would become comparatively insignificant.” (Jewish
>Chronicle, April 2, 1910).>Why do you try to protect criminals? I know, because they are Jews.
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:39:55 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Jews reopen trade in white slaves
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.baltics:17682 soc.culture.russian:105115 soc.culture.polish:137258 soc.culture.malaysia:234879 soc.culture.palestine:58204On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:59:21 -0500, ipm
wrote:
>iwraw wrote:>> PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN OCCURS ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS AN
>> ORGANISED CRIME. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE.>> No country/race is more or less culpable. Do not focus on this as an issue
>> of race. It isn’t just Israel but Thailand,
>> India,Nepal,USA,Netherlands,Japan….everywhere.>> Furthermore,women who are involved in the sex trade should not be punished
>> for it–that is what you suggest Israel should do?>Jews have been prominant in the white slave trade for a long time:
>”The Jews in this particular sphere of activity far outnumbered all the other
>’dealers’…The Jewish trafficker in women is the most terrible of all
>profiteers of human vice; if the Jew could only be eliminated, the traffic in
>women would shrink, and would become comparatively insignificant.” (Jewish
>Chronicle, April 2, 1910).>Why do you try to protect criminals? I know, because they are Jews.
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:39:56 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Hitler’s Jew Army
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach
wrote:>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>100,000 troops.”
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>>Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>(kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:43:19 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Bronfmans Family in Court re $700 Millions Unpaid Taxes!!!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.canada:171764 soc.culture.usa:288592 soc.culture.quebec:132786 soc.culture.europe:144430 soc.culture.russian:104503 soc.culture.swiss:30886 soc.culture.british:307244 soc.culture.french:123787On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:02:23 GMT, [email protected] (E. Barry
Bruyea) wrote:>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:59:28 -0600, “Barry S. Marjanovich”
>wrote: >>The Calgary Herald
>>July 9, 1998>>A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>>Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>>trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>>
>>”Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply the tax,” lawyer Arne Peltz told
>>Justice Francis Muldoon.
>>
>>”It was not only an oops, they missed the boat altogether,” Peltz said.
>>
>>”They screwed it up.”
>>
>>Peltz is representing George Harris, a 53-year-old office manager who took
>>on the federal tax collectors after he found out in 1996 that the family
>>was allowed to transfer assets of a $2.2-billion trust to the United
>>States without paying taxes.
>>
>>The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>>published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>>family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>>and entertainment empire.
>>
>>Throughout the controversy, there has never been any suggestion the family
>>tried to evade tax.
>>
>>Harris is appealing a Federal Court decision last year saying he didn’t
>>have the right to question the Revenue Canada decision because he doesn’t
>>have a personal stake in the matter.
>>
>>But Harris has argued the matter is one of simple fairness for all.
>>
>>He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>>estimated at $700 million in this case.
>>
>>Peltz argued Wednesday there should be a process to review such decisions,
>>adding a similar transfer-trust case in 1985 involving a different party
>>required tax to be paid.
>>
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>
>
>With the posters hysterical concentration on the Balkans, one wonders
>what his purpose was in posting the above, as it is very old news and
>while it indicates some major flaws in the Canadian Tax system, there
>is no hint of wrongdoing on the part of one of Canada’s most prominent
>and successful families. He should return to the butchery of the
>Balkans, where they have been killing each other for about a thousand
>years and no doubt will continue to do so for another thousand.
>
>
>>
>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:49:53 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Ken McVay/NIZKOR, proven liars.
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Xref: hub.org can.general:133491 soc.culture.canada:171720 soc.culture.russian:104459 soc.culture.polish:136601On 6 Jan 1999 19:11:39 GMT, kmcvay@ (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:
>Daniel Swanwrote: >>You always remind me of Beavis and Butthead clenching their fists
>>and parotting ‘LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!’, Henry Rollins Style.>On October 1, 1996, he made this claim:
>”Notice that the JEW Nye(aka Neimann) refuses to comment as to why the
>filthy rich JEWS, the Bronfmanns weere not prosecuted to recover the
>BILLIONS of dollars in taxes owing, when they illegally moved 2
>billion dollars out of Canada, as exposed by revenue Canada and the Auditor
>General of Canada?”>On October 4, 1996, he made this claim:
>
>”He refuses to comment on the SWINDLE of all Canadians by the JEWISH
>BRONFMANs, who illegally moved more than 2 BILLION dollars out of
>Canada without paying the taxes!!!”>Most recently, Mr. Grosvenor, in postings to this and other
>newsgroups, Mr. Grosvenor once again insisted that a Canadian Press
>story stated that a Federal Court Justice had ordered the Bronfman
>Trust to pay taxes on the Trust movement.>Did the Bronfman Trust violate a law? It would appear that they did
>not.This is at variance with the decision of Federal Justice Muldoon!!!
>Did the government accuse them of breaking a law? It would appear that
>they did not.In fact, the present lawsuit is to force Revenue Canada Taxation to
OBEY THE LAW, even against the JEW BRONFMANS!!!Since McVay/NIZKOR are themselves under investigation in both the US
and Canada for TAX FRAUD, in connection with giving false charitable
donation receipts, no wonder McVay is now concerned…From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:50:00 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: COURT DOES NOT ORDER BRONFMANS TO PAY TAXES!!!
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Xref: hub.org can.general:133505 soc.culture.canada:171761 soc.culture.russian:104499 soc.culture.polish:136646 soc.culture.swiss:30885On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:22:11 GMT, [email protected] (John Corman)
wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 05:44:21 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>>Exactly. Let’s try to look at this from a different perspective. The
>>Bronfman family tried to circumvent $700 million from tax coffers. Whether
>>or not this is legal has yet to be decided by the courts.
>============================================================================
YES, it is completely true, as documented by the two news stories,
below.>Is it true that 1)they circumvented paying that kind of money
and 2)
>that it’s before the courts?YES, the swindle case has been before the Courts in Canada, and was
initially reported on 25 November 1997, as detailed below.>It’s my understanding that it’s a done deal and not before the courts.
>Revenue Canada doesn’t particularly like it because the eventual taxes
>due when the various capital gains materialize may not be as easy to
>collect now that the trust is a non resident of Canada.Presumably, Revenue Canada will have to seize other Bronfman assets in
Canada, such as Seagrams, etc.Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In articlewrote: >>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:50:01 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Winnipeg Rabbi to Marry faggots
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.canada:171762 can.general:133506 soc.culture.russian:104500 soc.culture.polish:136649On 6 Jan 1999 21:51:32 GMT, [email protected]
(Steeve) wrote:
>So you claim that pretending to get married (for spiritual
>and/or religious reasons) is illegal. I suppose we should all
>go to jail for all those pretend weddings we had when we
>were kiddies.The news is that the JEW Rabbi is making so-called “marriages”, a
process not permitted between faggots, in Canada, cretin.On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:44:26 GMT, Stephen Jenuth
wrote: >In soc.culture.canada [email protected] wrote:
>: The full text follows:
>
>: On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>:>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>:>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>:>of same sex persons.
>
>:>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!
>
>While the marriage will not be recognised by civil law (unless the
>law is changed either by Parliament or by the Courts using the Charter),
>there is nothing that suggests that the action is illegal.
>
>As such the marriage will not be a marriage.
>
>:>Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>:>illegal.
>
>: If his actions are illegal, why don’t the authorities send him to
>: jail??
>
>For what. While performing a marriage when not permitted to, or doing
>it contrary to law is illegal under the Criminal Code;ARE YOU NOT CONTRADICTING YOURSELF??
IF IT IS “ILLEGAL” AS YOU CLAIM, under the Criminal Code, why is the
Jew Rabbi not charged??>these are clearly
>not marriages in the civil law sense. Thus there would be no offence.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Stephen Jenuth
>([email protected])
>
>Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:50:02 EST 1999
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Subject: Bronfmans Family in Court re $700 Millions Unpaid Taxes!!!
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.canada:171764 soc.culture.usa:288592 soc.culture.quebec:132786 soc.culture.europe:144430 soc.culture.russian:104503 soc.culture.swiss:30886 soc.culture.british:307244 soc.culture.french:123787On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:02:23 GMT, [email protected] (E. Barry
Bruyea) wrote:>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:59:28 -0600, “Barry S. Marjanovich”
>wrote: >>The Calgary Herald
>>July 9, 1998>>A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>>Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>>trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>>
>>”Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply the tax,” lawyer Arne Peltz told
>>Justice Francis Muldoon.
>>
>>”It was not only an oops, they missed the boat altogether,” Peltz said.
>>
>>”They screwed it up.”
>>
>>Peltz is representing George Harris, a 53-year-old office manager who took
>>on the federal tax collectors after he found out in 1996 that the family
>>was allowed to transfer assets of a $2.2-billion trust to the United
>>States without paying taxes.
>>
>>The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>>published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>>family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>>and entertainment empire.
>>
>>Throughout the controversy, there has never been any suggestion the family
>>tried to evade tax.
>>
>>Harris is appealing a Federal Court decision last year saying he didn’t
>>have the right to question the Revenue Canada decision because he doesn’t
>>have a personal stake in the matter.
>>
>>But Harris has argued the matter is one of simple fairness for all.
>>
>>He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>>estimated at $700 million in this case.
>>
>>Peltz argued Wednesday there should be a process to review such decisions,
>>adding a similar transfer-trust case in 1985 involving a different party
>>required tax to be paid.
>>
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>
>
>With the posters hysterical concentration on the Balkans, one wonders
>what his purpose was in posting the above, as it is very old news and
>while it indicates some major flaws in the Canadian Tax system, there
>is no hint of wrongdoing on the part of one of Canada’s most prominent
>and successful families. He should return to the butchery of the
>Balkans, where they have been killing each other for about a thousand
>years and no doubt will continue to do so for another thousand.
>
>
>>
>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:50:13 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: COURT ORDERS JEW BRONFMANS TO PAY TAXES!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.canada:171816 can.general:133524 soc.culture.russian:104578 soc.culture.polish:136716 alt.revisionism:326027 soc.culture.swiss:30902On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:18:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In articlewrote: >>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!
George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:50:14 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Winnipeg Rabbi to Marry faggots
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.canada:171821 can.general:133528 soc.culture.russian:104596 soc.culture.polish:136737With the following legal opinion, from a well-known lawyer in Canada,
perhaps now the faggots running NIZKOR/NAZIKOR will admit that they
are supporting CRIMINAL acts??>He is referring (perhaps without knowing it) to section 294(a) of the
>Criminal Code which provides that “Every one who solemnizes or pretends to
>solemnize a marriage without lawful authority, the proof of which lies on him
>is guilty of an indictable offence…”>Or perhaps section 295 which provides that “Every one who, being lawfully
>authorized to solemnize marriage, knowingly and wilfully solemnizes a marriage
>in contravention of the laws of the province in which the marriage is solemnized
>is guilty of an indictable offence…”>But to throw a bit of cold water on these arguments, they only apply to marriages …
>and since these “marriages” are not recognized by civil law it is impossible to call
>them marriages — at least in terms of the law.If the so-called Rabbi in Winnipeg is a licenced marraige
commissioner, and he then deliberately and knowingly marries faggots,
is he then not committing a CRIMINAL offence, as you defined it?Stephen Jenuth
([email protected])Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 01:53:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 6 Jan 1999 21:51:32 GMT, [email protected]
>(Steeve) wrote:
>>So you claim that pretending to get married (for spiritual
>>and/or religious reasons) is illegal. I suppose we should all
>>go to jail for all those pretend weddings we had when we
>>were kiddies.
>
>
>The news is that the JEW Rabbi is making so-called “marriages”, a
>process not permitted between faggots, in Canada, cretin.
>
>On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:44:26 GMT, Stephen Jenuth
>wrote:
>
>>In soc.culture.canada [email protected] wrote:
>>: The full text follows:
>>
>>: On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>:>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>>:>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>>:>of same sex persons.
>>
>>:>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!
>>
>>While the marriage will not be recognised by civil law (unless the
>>law is changed either by Parliament or by the Courts using the Charter),
>>there is nothing that suggests that the action is illegal.
>>
>>As such the marriage will not be a marriage.
>>
>>:>Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>>:>illegal.
>>
>>: If his actions are illegal, why don’t the authorities send him to
>>: jail??
>>
>>For what. While performing a marriage when not permitted to, or doing
>>it contrary to law is illegal under the Criminal Code;
>
>ARE YOU NOT CONTRADICTING YOURSELF??
>
>IF IT IS “ILLEGAL” AS YOU CLAIM, under the Criminal Code, why is the
>Jew Rabbi not charged??
>
>
>>these are clearly
>>not marriages in the civil law sense. Thus there would be no offence.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Stephen Jenuth
>>([email protected])
>>
>>Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:50:30 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Winnipeg Rabbi to Marry faggots
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.canada:171930 can.general:133594 soc.culture.russian:104776 soc.culture.polish:136958On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:52:25 GMT, Stephen Jenuth
wrote: >In can.general [email protected] wrote:
>: With the following legal opinion, from a well-known lawyer in Canada,
>: perhaps now the faggots running NIZKOR/NAZIKOR will admit that they
>: are supporting CRIMINAL acts??
>
>:>He is referring (perhaps without knowing it) to section 294(a) of the
>:>Criminal Code which provides that “Every one who solemnizes or pretends to
>:>solemnize a marriage without lawful authority, the proof of which lies on him
>:>is guilty of an indictable offence…”
>
>
>:>Or perhaps section 295 which provides that “Every one who, being lawfully
>:>authorized to solemnize marriage, knowingly and wilfully solemnizes a marriage
>:>in contravention of the laws of the province in which the marriage is solemnized
>:>is guilty of an indictable offence…”
>
>:>But to throw a bit of cold water on these arguments, they only apply to marriages …
>:>and since these “marriages” are not recognized by civil law it is impossible to call
>:>them marriages — at least in terms of the law.
>
>
>: If the so-called Rabbi in Winnipeg is a licenced marraige
>: commissioner, and he then deliberately and knowingly marries faggots,
>: is he then not committing a CRIMINAL offence, as you defined it?>No. Because in terms of the civil law, no matter what two people
>of the same sex do, they cannot be married.Stephen – if the JEW Rabbi does perform illegal marriages of faggots,
is he then not committing a criminal offence??Notice that I refer to the act of “Marriage” as performed by the
so-called Rabbi, who may or may not be another faggot. I am not
commenting on what poofters do in the privacy of their own premises.>Stephen Jenuth
>([email protected])
>
>Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:50:30 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: COURT ORDERS JEW BRONFMANS TO PAY TAXES!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.canada:171931 can.general:133596 soc.culture.russian:104778 soc.culture.polish:136964 alt.revisionism:326702 soc.culture.swiss:30944On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 21:21:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:22:11 GMT, [email protected] (John Corman)
wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 05:44:21 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>>Exactly. Let’s try to look at this from a different perspective. The
>>Bronfman family tried to circumvent $700 million from tax coffers. Whether
>>or not this is legal has yet to be decided by the courts.
>============================================================================
YES, it is completely true, as documented by the two news stories,
below.>Is it true that 1)they circumvented paying that kind of money
and 2)
>that it’s before the courts?YES, the swindle case has been before the Courts in Canada, and was
initially reported on 25 November 1997, as detailed below.>It’s my understanding that it’s a done deal and not before the courts.
>Revenue Canada doesn’t particularly like it because the eventual taxes
>due when the various capital gains materialize may not be as easy to
>collect now that the trust is a non resident of Canada.Presumably, Revenue Canada will have to seize other Bronfman assets in
Canada, such as Seagrams, etc.Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In articlewrote: >>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:50:31 EST 1999
Article: 171932 of soc.culture.canada
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.canada,can.general,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Bronfmans Family in Court re $700 Millions Unpaid Taxes!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.russian:104779 soc.culture.polish:136966 soc.culture.german:94163 soc.culture.canada:171932 can.general:133598 soc.culture.usa:289152On 7 Jan 1999 22:57:55 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOBC)
wanted to tell the truth but prefers to lie, so here is the real info:On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:22:11 GMT, [email protected] (John Corman)
wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 05:44:21 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>>Exactly. Let’s try to look at this from a different perspective. The
>>Bronfman family tried to circumvent $700 million from tax coffers. Whether
>>or not this is legal has yet to be decided by the courts.
>============================================================================
YES, it is completely true, as documented by the two news stories,
below.>Is it true that 1)they circumvented paying that kind of money
and 2)
>that it’s before the courts?YES, the swindle case has been before the Courts in Canada, and was
initially reported on 25 November 1997, as detailed below.>It’s my understanding that it’s a done deal and not before the courts.
>Revenue Canada doesn’t particularly like it because the eventual taxes
>due when the various capital gains materialize may not be as easy to
>collect now that the trust is a non resident of Canada.Presumably, Revenue Canada will have to seize other Bronfman assets in
Canada, such as Seagrams, etc.Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In articlewrote: >>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:51:18 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.cuba,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,can.general
Subject: CANADA LIKES TO SWINDLE CUBA!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.cuba:175341 soc.culture.usa:289837 soc.culture.canada:172220 can.general:133751On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 00:57:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:39:43 GMT, [email protected]
>>wrote:
>>>On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:58:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>>>>Subject: Canada Post Managers Can STEAL MAIL!!!
>>>>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:38 GMT>>>>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>>>>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>>>>Bill of Rights.>>>>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>>>>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>>>>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>>>>Education department of the Government of Cuba!!
>>>>
>>>>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>>>>
>>>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>>>>
>>>>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>>>>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>>>
>>>>Surely the managers in Canada Post are not being paid by the CIA to
>>>>steal mail sent to Cuba??
>
>>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>>>
>>>>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>>>>foreign government department. (The Education department of the Government of Cuba)
>>>>>>The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>>>>>> One must wonder whether the CIA have “arranged” to have items for Cuba
>>>>>>stolen by Canada Post managers???
>>>>
>>>>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>>>
>>>>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>>>
>>>>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>>>
>>>>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>>>>campaign.
>>>>
>>>>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>>>>THEM!!!
>>>>
>>>>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>>>>at Canada Post include:
>>>>
>>>>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>>>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>>>>
>>>>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>>>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>>>>
>>>>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>>>
>>>>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>>>
>>>>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>>>
>>>>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>>>>mail to and from Canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it disappearing!!!
>
>
>
>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:35:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
>>>>>insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
>>>>>Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??
>
>>>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>>>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>>>>>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>>>>>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.
>
>>>>>>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>>>>>>Canadian/US relations, what???
>
>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>>>>Life Insurance??
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>>>>YEARS??
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million – crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>>>>Cuba??
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>>>>reparations??
>>>>
>>>>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>>>
>>>>>On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, [email protected] (Ricardoag) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Wednesday, July 8, 1998
>>>>
>>>>>>Helms won’t let Sherritt off the hook
>>>>
>>>>>>By PETER MORTON
>>>>>>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post
>>>>>> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>>>>>>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>>>>>>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say.
>>>>>> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>>>>>>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>>>>>>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday.
>>>>
>>>>>> “Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>>>>>>see Sherritt off the hook,” said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>>>>>>negotiations.
>>>>
>>>>>> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>>>>>>essentially “immunize” Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>>>>>>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>>>>>>since then, the source said.
>>>>
>>>>>> “In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>>>>>>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>>>>>>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity all with the blessing of
>>>>>>the U.S. government,” Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>>>>>>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>>>>>>State Madeline Albright.
>>>>
>>>>>> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>>>>>>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>>>>>>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans.
>>>>
>>>>>> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>>>>>>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>>>>>>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>>>>>>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton.
>>>>
>>>>>> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>>>>>>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms’s concerns.
>>>>>> “We’re not agreeable to modifying the agreement,” he said.
>>>>>> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>>>>>>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>>>>>>presented to Congress.
>>>>
>>>>>> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>>>>>>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>>>>>>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>>>>>>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>>>>>>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>>>>>>of dollars.
>>>>
>>>>>> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>>>>>>if the EU ensured the two countries’ terrorism campaigns were not being
>>>>>>supported.
>>>>
>>>>>> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>>>>>>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>>>>>>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi.
>>>>
>>>>>> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>>>>>>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>>>>>>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away.
>>>>>> “There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration,” an official said.
>>>>>> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>>>>>>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>>>>>>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba.
>>>>>> “Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached,” he said.
>>>>>> ricardo a. gonzalezFrom [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:51:23 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: Nizkook Fraud On U.S. Taxes?
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Xref: hub.org alt.politics.nationalism.white:217059 soc.culture.canada:172251 soc.culture.usa:289873 can.general:133779On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:59:41 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:Does this mean that Nizkor is fraudulently issuing tax deuctions
receipts, claiming to be a charity??If McVay is really a CIA plant in Canada, as his associate has
declared, since when does spying constitute a charitable function,
either in the US or Canada?? More fraud???On 3 Jul 1998 01:02:26 GMT, [email protected] (Billy Bob
Throckmorton) wrote:http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=220938908
Subject: Put up or shut up, Matt [WasRe: Twelve Questions Matt
Giwer
won’t Answer (Month 12)]
From: [email protected] (Ken Lewis)mgiwe[email protected] (Matt Giwer) posing as [email protected] (Kruger) wrote:
> Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue
>it.The only tradition here appears to be your continual spamming of the
newsgroup with this nonsense. Since you are losing so bady, there is
likely
little else for you to contribute.Since you may have missed the original challange, I will repeat it for
you.> 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
There is no tax number for Nizkor. There never has been.
If you can produce a tax receipt that Nizkor has ever issued, I will
donate
$100 to the organization of your choice. If you cannot, you donate
$100 to
Nizkor.What do you say, you gutless coward? You game?
> 6) Where can one find the organizational papers for Nizkor?
There are no organizational papers for Nizkor. There has never been
any.
Nizkor does not exist as an organization.If you can prove there are organizational papers for Nizkor, I will
contribute $100 to the organization of your choise. If you cannot, you
donate $100 to Nizkor.What do you say, you gutless coward? You game?
> 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorized to
>solicit tax free contributions?Nizkor has never issued a tax deductable receipt therefore Nizkor does
not
solicit tax free contributions.If you can prove that Nizkor has ever issued a tax deductable
receipt, I
will donate $100 to the orgnization of your chooice. If you cannot,
you
donate $100 to Nizkor.What do you say, you gutless coward? You game?
I’ve issued you this challange before, Matt. You didn’t see to have
the guts
to accept it then.I know issue the challange again. Are you going to accept it or are
you
going to remain a gutless coward?———- END ————
As for Ken’s erroneous claim:
“There are no organizational papers for Nizkor. There has never been
any.
Nizkor does not exist as an organization.” Nizkor proves that Ken
Lewis does
not know what he is talking about!The Nizkor Project wrote:
CHANGES AT NIZKOR
Nizkor is growing. Like all organizations that start at a grass-roots
level, ours must adapt to growth and an increasing demand for our
services. For this reason, we are re-structuring our system by
delegating responsibilities and activities.Reference DejaNews at:
http://x2.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=220977934
Subject: Changes at Nizkor!
From: [email protected] (The Nizkor Project)
Date: 1997/02/24As for Ken Lewis’ big mouthed claim:
“Nizkor has never issued a tax deductable receipt therefore Nizkor
does not
solicit tax free contributions. If you can prove that Nizkor has ever
issued
a tax deductable receipt, I will donate $100 to the orgnization of
your
chooice. If you cannot, you donate $100 to Nizkor. What do you say,
you
gutless coward? You game?”Is this close enough for you? I know that it is not exact but is it
close
enough?https://nizkor.org/funding.html
The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with
the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada. The League is a
national
volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism, racism
and
bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.Please print this form and send to:
The Nizkor Project
c/o
The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8Name:________________________________________Street
Address:________________________________________________City________________
_State/Province__________Postal Code_______E-Mail
Address:_________________________________Amount Enclosed:
$___________Please
make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of B’nai
Brith
Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the cheque’s memo
section.Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]——– END ———
BTW isn’t ol’ Ken Lewis missing the mark when he says:
“Nizkor has never issued a tax deductable receipt therefore Nizkor
does not
solicit tax free contributions.”?What does the above look like o’ sycophant for the filthiest horde to
plague
the Earth?Billy Bob (Cleaning out his ovens)
From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:55:42 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: “The Black Book of Communism”
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.cuba:175164On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:45:01 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:>When one considers that most of those killed, were by the JEW-led
>commies of the soviet union, one can then understand the dislike for
>the cursed Christkillers.>Even in Cuba, who can forget the drugs, prostitution, child
>pornography involved with Meyer Lansky and the JEW Mafia and their
>close connection to Batista?>On 22 Nov 1997 15:21:02 GMT, [email protected] (Ricardoag) wrote:
>
>>New Book About Crimes of Communism Fuels Heated Debate in France
>>
>>By ALAN RIDING
>>
>>
>> PARIS — In a good many countries, an 846-page historical tome about the
>>crimes of communism would head straight for university libraries. In France,
>>”The Black Book of Communism,” as it is called, has gone to the top of the
>>nonfiction best-seller list, with sales fueled by heated debate in Parliament
>>and the news media and by squabbling among its authors over how its material
>>should be interpreted.
>>
>> French interest in such a topic may at first seem puzzling. The book, written
>>by six historians and three years in preparation, details how between 85
>>million and 100 million people came to die at the hands of communist regimes in
>>the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia and elsewhere. But France was not a victim of
>>communist crimes and the French Communist Party merits only passing mention.
>>
>> Yet the book’s success — the $35 soft-cover edition has sold 50,000 copies
>>since its publication on Nov. 8, the 80th anniversary of the start of the
>>Russian Revolution — says much about how the past continues to haunt French
>>society, how much Marxist discourse infiltrated intellectual life here, how old
>>ideological battles are still being refought on today’s stage.
>>
>> The first shot was fired last week when the center-right opposition Union of
>>French Democracy tried to use the book to embarrass Prime Minister Lionel
>>Jospin, whose socialist-led coalition government has the French Communist Party
>>as its junior partner and includes three communist ministers in the Cabinet.
>>What was he going to do, Jospin was asked in Parliament, about a political ally
>>associated with murderous regimes?
>>
>> The prime minister was visibly irritated. “Even though it did not distance
>>itself soon enough from Stalinism,” he responded sharply, “the Communist Party
>>has learned the lessons of history, it is represented in my government and I am
>>proud of this. The French Communist Party formed part of the cartel of the left
>>in the Popular Front, in the Resistance, in the tripartite government formed in
>>1945 and it has never tried to restrict freedom.”
>>
>> With the assembly chamber in an uproar, the leader of the Union of French
>>Democracy, Francois Bayrou, led a walkout of his fellow deputies, saying he was
>>”stunned” that the prime minister had expressed “not a word of consideration or
>>pity” for the victims of communism. Members of the Gaullist Rally for the
>>Republic did not follow: General de Gaulle had included Communists in his first
>>post-Liberation government.
>>
>> The French Communist Party, though, was not off the hook. After the death on
>>Sunday of Georges Marchais, party leader from 1972 to 1994, its own dark past
>>of subservience to Moscow was extensively revisited in the press this week.
>>Eager to present today’s Communists as somehow different, the new party leader,
>>Robert Hue, conceded that the party was “20 years too late” in acknowledging
>>the excesses of Stalinism in 1976.
>>
>> Yet while most of the book is the result of lengthy research, some of it in
>>newly opened Soviet archives about torture, imprisonment, murders, massacres
>>and famines associated with communist regimes, much of the controversy here has
>>focused on the book’s introduction and conclusion, both written by Stephane
>>Courtois, who also coordinated the project.
>>
>> Courtois, who was briefly a Maoist in his youth, argued that terror was
>>intrinsic to — and not just an instrument of — communism, a point challenged
>>by non-Communist and other leftists. Two of Courtois’ fellow authors even
>>threatened to withdraw from the project if the book’s original title, “The Book
>>of Communist Crimes,” were maintained.
>>
>> Courtois also came close to equating communism and Nazism, an interpretation
>>that even Mr. Jospin questioned. “Nazism is an intrinsically perverse doctrine
>>that assumed its anti-Semitism and proclaimed the inequality of races,” Jospin
>>said in his remarks in Parliament.
>>
>> Responding to his critics, Courtois said that, even before Stalin’s reign of
>>terror, Lenin instituted “permanent civil war” as his mode of government.
>>
>> On the similarities between Nazism and communism, Courtois said there were
>>differences, yet they had much in common: a single party; a single ideology;
>>total domination of the government by the party; a cult to a leader; and mass
>>terror. Where they were different, the historian said, was that Nazism was
>>based on a racist ideology that became “exterminationist,” while communism was
>>based on class warfare.
>>
>> Courtois said the book was important because, while extensive research had
>>been done on the crimes of Nazi Germany, no comprehensive academic study had
>>until now been devoted to the crimes of communism. He said this was because of
>>the Soviet Union’s role as an ally in World War II, the fact that many
>>communist crimes were long hidden and, not least in France, because of “a
>>fondness for the idea of revolution” in many intellectual circles.
>>
>>
>>
>>Copyright 1997 The New York Times
>>
>>ricardo a gonzalez
>
>[File: C:\Program Files\Netscape\files\badjews.txt]From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:56:07 EST 1999
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Subject: CANADA LIKES TO SWINDLE CUBA!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.cuba:175341 soc.culture.usa:289837 soc.culture.canada:172220 can.general:133751On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 00:57:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:39:43 GMT, [email protected]
>>wrote:
>>>On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:58:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>>>>Subject: Canada Post Managers Can STEAL MAIL!!!
>>>>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:38 GMT>>>>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>>>>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>>>>Bill of Rights.>>>>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>>>>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>>>>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>>>>Education department of the Government of Cuba!!
>>>>
>>>>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>>>>
>>>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>>>>
>>>>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>>>>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>>>
>>>>Surely the managers in Canada Post are not being paid by the CIA to
>>>>steal mail sent to Cuba??
>
>>>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>>>
>>>>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>>>>foreign government department. (The Education department of the Government of Cuba)
>>>>>>The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>>>>>> One must wonder whether the CIA have “arranged” to have items for Cuba
>>>>>>stolen by Canada Post managers???
>>>>
>>>>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>>>
>>>>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>>>
>>>>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>>>
>>>>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>>>>campaign.
>>>>
>>>>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>>>>THEM!!!
>>>>
>>>>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>>>>at Canada Post include:
>>>>
>>>>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>>>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>>>>
>>>>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>>>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>>>>
>>>>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>>>
>>>>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>>>
>>>>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>>>
>>>>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>>>>mail to and from Canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it disappearing!!!
>
>
>
>>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:35:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
>>>>>insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
>>>>>Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??
>
>>>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>>>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>>>>>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>>>>>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.
>
>>>>>>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>>>>>>Canadian/US relations, what???
>
>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>>>>Life Insurance??
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>>>>YEARS??
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million – crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>>>>Cuba??
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>>>>reparations??
>>>>
>>>>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>>>
>>>>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>>>
>>>>>On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, [email protected] (Ricardoag) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Wednesday, July 8, 1998
>>>>
>>>>>>Helms won’t let Sherritt off the hook
>>>>
>>>>>>By PETER MORTON
>>>>>>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post
>>>>>> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>>>>>>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>>>>>>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say.
>>>>>> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>>>>>>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>>>>>>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday.
>>>>
>>>>>> “Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>>>>>>see Sherritt off the hook,” said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>>>>>>negotiations.
>>>>
>>>>>> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>>>>>>essentially “immunize” Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>>>>>>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>>>>>>since then, the source said.
>>>>
>>>>>> “In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>>>>>>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>>>>>>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity all with the blessing of
>>>>>>the U.S. government,” Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>>>>>>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>>>>>>State Madeline Albright.
>>>>
>>>>>> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>>>>>>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>>>>>>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans.
>>>>
>>>>>> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>>>>>>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>>>>>>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>>>>>>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton.
>>>>
>>>>>> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>>>>>>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms’s concerns.
>>>>>> “We’re not agreeable to modifying the agreement,” he said.
>>>>>> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>>>>>>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>>>>>>presented to Congress.
>>>>
>>>>>> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>>>>>>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>>>>>>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>>>>>>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>>>>>>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>>>>>>of dollars.
>>>>
>>>>>> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>>>>>>if the EU ensured the two countries’ terrorism campaigns were not being
>>>>>>supported.
>>>>
>>>>>> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>>>>>>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>>>>>>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi.
>>>>
>>>>>> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>>>>>>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>>>>>>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away.
>>>>>> “There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration,” an official said.
>>>>>> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>>>>>>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>>>>>>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba.
>>>>>> “Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached,” he said.
>>>>>> ricardo a. gonzalezFrom [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:58:25 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.russian:104583 soc.culture.ukrainian:45550 soc.culture.polish:136724 soc.culture.german:94075On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:03:49 +0100, mike muth
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to write:On 4 Jan 1999 01:47:00 GMT, [email protected] (Alyvaryat) wrote:
>>What a savage, subhuman people!
Perhaps he was referring to the JEW murderers?
> Did your nation ever have to endure an artificial Famine at the hands of
>it’s occupiers as Ukraine had to endure at Russia’s hands? You cannot honestly
>tell me what levels you, your family, or “your people” would go to in order to
>survive. Self-preservation is a powerful driving force.> Perhaps, since you feel you are able to judge an entire nation as
>”subhuman” and “savage”, you should go thru something like this and then tell
>those that survived Russia’s assault on Ukraine in 1932 thru 1933 that you
>never did those things…….What is even surprising, is that the article was written by an honest
Jewish writer, well known in Canada for telling the truth.On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, [email protected] wrote:
>>Reply-To:
>>From: “nikst”
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998
>>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor>>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet,
>>the 65th anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent
>>farmers – called kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine’s growing spirit of nationalism.>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.>>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number,
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death – mass
>>starvation.>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger,
>>cold and sickness.>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance.
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped
>>supervise the slaughter.>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets,
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant
>>children.>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB’s archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine’s population was
>>exterminated.>>Millions of victims
>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine,
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering.>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??
>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region’s innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe’s Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust,
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world’s gaze. But
>>Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty’s lies.>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime –
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who
>>Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,” murdered four times more people
>>than Adolf Hitler.>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and
>>enjoying a generous state pension.>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: [email protected].
>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: [email protected].
From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:58:27 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.russian:104584 soc.culture.polish:136725 soc.culture.german:94076 soc.culture.malaysia:233547 soc.culture.palestine:57941On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:37:18 +0100, mike muth
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to write:On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:52:04 GMT, Ed Kadach
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Subject: Re: Jew Lust for Lesbianism/FaggotsNewsgroups: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.polish,
soc.culture.palestine
References: 1In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!
>Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal.If his actions are illegal, why don’t the authorities send him to
jail??>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action. However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
wrote: >All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.>In article <[email protected]>, Israel Schiff
>writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: “For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;”
>>Well, here’s another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: “The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, “Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible’s impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, “You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live” (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth” (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah–the entire human race–are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force–especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, “Must you do it all by yourself?”
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, “Be fruitful and multiply” is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>”Here is my maid Bilhah–go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children” (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world’s homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom.” (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:58:28 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.polish:136770 soc.culture.ukrainian:45561 soc.culture.russian:104608 soc.culture.swiss:30914 soc.culture.german:94092On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:42:52 -0700, Ed Kadach
wrote:>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of January 2, 1999
>The Holocaust Shakedown
>by Dr. William Pierce>Imagine that a robber walks into a bank, points a pistol at a teller,
>hands her a bag, and demands that she put all the money from her cash
>drawer in it. At first she protests, but then, after he threatens to
>shoot, she fills the robber’s bag with cash. And then imagine that, as
>the robber walks out of the bank with his bag of loot, the bank guard
>opens the door for him, smiles at him, offers to hail a cab for him, and
>tells him to come again soon. After that it’s not difficult to imagine
>that he probably will.
>
>That’s about the way it’s been with the Jews recently. Two years ago
>they put a gun to the head of the Swiss people collectively and demanded
>billions of dollars in reparations for Swiss bank accounts they claimed
>had been owned by Jews who disappeared during the Second World War. The
>Swiss initially protested that unclaimed Jewish bank accounts from the
>1930s and 1940s amounted at most to a few million dollars, not to
>billions, and besides the war ended more than 50 years ago and claims
>should have been filed long ago. The Jews threatened to shoot,
>figuratively speaking, by having their bought politicians in the United
>States prevent Swiss banks from doing business in America. Eventually
>they walked away with $1.25 billion in loot, with the Swiss apologizing
>for not having coughed it up sooner.
>
>After that sort of success with the Swiss one could hardly expect the
>Jews to give up extortion and go straight. So anyway, they were back
>again soon, with demands against the Volkswagen Company for having used
>Jewish workers during the Second World War and providing them only with
>room and board but not paying them union-scale wages. One might think
>that these Jewish workers would be grateful to Volkswagen for keeping
>them alive during the war, feeding them, and giving them a roof over
>their heads, when so many German civilians had only bombed-out ruins to
>live in. Well, if you thought that, you just don’t understand Jews. The
>Jews told the Volkswagen Company that if it ever wanted to sell any more
>cars in America, it had better cough up — soon. And the bought
>politicians and the media bosses in America began rattling their sabres
>and talking loudly about sanctions of various sorts against Volkswagen.
>And so, like the Swiss banks, Volkswagen coughed up the money.
>
>Then the feeding frenzy started, just as I told you it would two years
>ago, when I predicted that after the Jews had cleaned out the Swiss they
>would go after other victims in a long list. Volkswagen wasn’t the only
>company which had used involuntary labor during the war. The Jews went
>after Daimler-Benz and BMW and Siemens.
>
>And Switzerland wasn’t the only country where Jews could claim that
>Uncle Abe had stashed some of his loot sixty years ago, before the war.
>So they sued banks in France and in Britain and began moaning and
>whining in the media that the banks were being “insensitive” to poor,
>deserving “Holocaust survivors,” who suddenly had remembered Uncle Abe’s
>millions and needed it — now! And then they remembered the insurance
>companies in Italy and Switzerland and Britain and elsewhere from whom
>they could claim that Uncle Abe once had had a life-insurance policy.
>Then they remembered that the Swedes owed them gold, and the Danes and
>the Norwegians. Even the Poles, whom the Jews had ruled as Bolshevik
>commissars for nearly 50 years after the war, owed them, they claimed.
>
>The racket has worked the same in every case: pay us, or we will have
>our bought Gentile politicians pass laws making it impossible for you to
>continue doing business, and our people in the media will paint you as
>monsters who want to hang onto the profit you made when poor Uncle Abe
>and Aunt Sara were crammed into gas chambers, and then the gullible
>Gentile lemmings won’t buy your products. If you give us any trouble or
>resist our demands we’ll make an example of you, the way we did with the
>Swiss banks. Just pay us the few hundred million dollars we’re demanding
>now, and we’ll leave you alone. Otherwise, it’ll end up costing you a
>lot more.
>
>And it has worked every time. Not one banker or businessman has stood up
>to them and flatly refused to pay. Not one president or prime minister
>has said to them, “All right, Jew boys! You try a boycott against my
>country, and we’ll organize a boycott against Israel. We’ll round up all
>the Jews in our country and send them packing.” Not one has called the
>Jews’ bluff. They’ve all calculated that it is cheaper to pay the
>gangsters than to fight them, and so they pay. Honor means nothing to
>these businessmen and politicians. Principles mean nothing to them. All
>they care about is continuing to make money, continuing to stay in
>office.
>
>With this sort of attitude predominant among the Gentiles, one can
>hardly blame the Jews for turning to extortion on a larger scale than
>ever before. They are successful at it; therefore they continue to do
>it. And they don’t limit themselves to Europe or to those who allegedly
>cooperated with the Germans in their demand for reparations. A few
>months ago they filed a claim against Britain for $600 million they
>claim the British government confiscated from Jews between 1940 and 1942
>when the British governed Palestine. Remember, the Jews were waging a
>guerrilla war against the British prior to 1948, when the British
>finally gave up and pulled out, letting the Jews slaughter the
>Palestinians and establish the Jewish state of Israel on Palestinian
>land. The Jews were kidnapping and murdering British soldiers in
>Palestine and assassinating diplomats. In 1946 the Jews used a terrorist
>bomb to blow up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which was the British
>government headquarters. This Jewish forerunner of the Oklahoma City
>bombing killed a large number of British civilians and military people.
>And now the Jews are demanding $600 million in reparations from the
>British!
>
>And of course, the Jews also are expecting payoffs from American
>companies. Both Ford and General Motors had subsidiaries working in
>Germany when the Second World War began. The Ford plant in Germany made
>military vehicles for the Germans throughout the war, and the General
>Motors subsidiary, Opel, did the same. And so now the Jews are claiming
>that both Ford and General Motors owe them a great deal of money because
>of that. The Jews already have filed a class-action suit against Ford in
>a Federal court in New Jersey, seeking hundreds of millions of dollars
>in wages plus interest for Jews who worked in Ford’s German plant during
>the war. And because the businessmen who run Ford and General Motors
>today are the same sort as those who run the Volkswagen Company, they
>undoubtedly will pay off the Jews rather than risk having the media
>portray them as “insensitive” types who profited from the so-called
>”Holocaust” and now refuse to share their loot with the poor, deserving
>Jewish “survivors.” Two hundred years ago the American motto was,
>”Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.” But in those days
>Americans were made of sterner stuff — and I assume that our people in
>Europe were too.
>
>Cash isn’t the only thing the Jews are going after. They have decided
>that a substantial portion of the art treasures of Europe really
>belonged to Uncle Abe too 60 years ago and ought to be returned to the
>Jews now. It is true, of course, that during the war the German
>government had a keen interest in bringing as much Germanic art as
>possible back under German protection. They bought all the Vermeers and
>Rembrandts and Holbeins and Dürers and Halses and other Germanic art
>works as they could from owners in the conquered countries and brought
>them back to Germany. And when the works the Germans were interested in
>were in the hands of Jews, they often brought pressure to bear and
>obtained the works at low prices. The Germans, however, generally
>weren’t interested in modern art — certainly not in Jewish paintings by
>Chagall or Modigliani, for example — and a great many such modern
>paintings ended up in the hands of Jewish art dealers. In fact, the
>Germans often had agreements with Jewish art dealers, swapping the
>modern paintings they weren’t interested in for the Germanic paintings
>they were interested in. The biggest of these Jewish dealers, Georges
>Wildenstein, was in Paris, and he acquired an enormous number of modern
>paintings during the war. After the war he brought them to New York and
>later sold hundreds of them to museums and private collectors around the
>world. The Jews currently are engaged in a huge treasure hunt for those
>paintings now in Gentile hands which formerly belonged to Jews. The
>facts that most of these paintings were acquired by their present owners
>from Jewish dealers such as the Wildensteins and that many of them were
>legally purchased from their Jewish owners during the war are glossed
>over. All of these paintings are characterized by the Jews as — quote
>– “art stolen from victims of the Holocaust by the Nazis,” — end quote
>– and they want it all back now.
>
>There’s an interesting double standard here. A messy divorce in the
>Wildenstein family attracted public attention last year to the Jewish
>family’s business dealings in Paris during the war, and another Jewish
>family claimed that the Wildensteins have artworks that actually should
>be returned to them, because they were forced to sell them at fire-sale
>prices during the war. The Wildensteins told them to buzz off: the
>statute of limitations for such claims expired long ago, the
>Wildensteins asserted. Of course, no Gentile owner dares make such an
>assertion. But in fact, there are statutes of limitations for most
>claims. Dormant bank accounts typically become the property of the
>government after being unclaimed for 20 years or so, but when the Swiss
>brought up that legality two years ago, the Jews went into their
>”persecuted victim” act, feigning outrage that the Swiss should try to
>let a mere law stand between the Jews and what they were claiming in
>reparations.
>
>Whenever the Jews, in order to remind the world for the six-millionth
>time of their “victim” status, have accused some elderly German or Pole
>or Ukrainian or Lithuanian of having mistreated Jews 55 years ago during
>the war, there is no question of a statute of limitations. If anyone
>mentions that legality, Jewish shrieking in all of their media quickly
>drowns him out. For an injury, real or imaginary, done to a Jew by a
>Gentile there is no statute of limitations, no matter how much time has
>passed. The Jews still celebrate every year in their Purim festival the
>revenge their ancestors took on the ancient Persians 2,500 years ago
>through their control of a corrupt king.
>
>Yet when the Polish government asked the government of Israel a few
>months ago to extradite a Jewish mass murderer, Solomon Morel, so that
>he could be tried in Poland for genocide, the Jews refused. “There’s a
>statute of limitations for extradition,” the Israelis told the Poles,
>”and you’re too late.” Morel was the Jew-communist commissar of a
>concentration camp in Poland after the war, and he had tortured hundreds
>of Poles and Germans to death. When he saw the possibility of
>retribution looming, Morel, like thousands of other Jewish criminals
>before him, fled to Israel. The horrifying atrocities committed by
>Solomon Morel have been described in the 1993 book An Eye for an Eye by
>John Sack.
>
>This same double standard applies to every sort of interaction between
>Jews and non-Jews. It is a fact that in wars people suffer losses.
>Usually, within a few years after the wars are over, people try to get
>on with their lives, and they consider what is past to be past. If other
>people behaved the way the Jews behave, then every Englishman whose
>family residence got hit by a bomb during the “blitz” of the Second
>World War would be clamoring now for the German government to reimburse
>him for the repairs that his grandparents had to make 55 years ago —
>plus interest, of course. And if it’s all right to go back 55 years for
>claims, why not go back 135 years and let all of the Americans whose
>ancestors’ homes and farms in Georgia were burned by General Sherman
>collect damages from the U.S. government now — plus interest, of
>course? Or why not go back 220 years and demand that Tony Blair’s
>government pay reparations to all of those Americans whose ancestors
>suffered property loss from the Redcoats during the First American
>Revolution — plus interest, of course? I mean, if the Jews are allowed
>to keep score, without regard for time, why shouldn’t everyone else? Why
>not set up some sort of World Court for Reparations? I imagine that
>there are a lot of Palestinians who would like to file claims against
>the state of Israel.
>
>The fact is that we would have international chaos if everybody behaved
>the way the Jews do. So this raises two interesting questions: Why do
>the Jews behave the way they do? And why do we let them get away with
>it?
>
>Well, I’ve already given an answer of a sort to the first question: the
>Jews behave the way they do because we let them behave that way; it’s
>just like the case of the bank robber, who will keep coming back until
>the bank guard stops being nice and shoots the robber. But there’s
>really more to it than that. No one else is even inclined to make the
>sort of demands on the rest of the world that the Jews do. The Jews
>really are different. Their religion provides a few clues in this
>regard. It is a religion which tells them that all the property of the
>Gentiles really should belong to Jews, that the Jews are entitled to it.
>It’s as blatant as anywhere in the 60th chapter of the book attributed
>to their prophet Isaiah, where they are told to keep their gates open
>all the time, so that all the wealth of the Gentiles can be brought to
>them. “Thou shalt suck the milk of the Gentiles,” the Jews are told. And
>if you think that doesn’t really mean what it sounds like it means, you
>should look into the Talmud, where the Jewish sages, the Jewish
>interpreters of the Bible, explain to the rest of the Jews what it
>means. The Talmud tells the Jews that only Jews are human beings, that
>the Gentiles are just animals created by the Jewish tribal god Yahweh to
>be used by the Jews, like other animals are used. Because Gentiles are
>merely animals, they can’t really own anything, and it is the duty of
>the Jews to make sure they don’t.
>
>Now all of this Biblical stuff and Talmudic stuff is very old and quaint
>and might seem irrelevant to a lawsuit against the Ford Motor Company by
>the Jews today. But this old and quaint stuff is the basis of the Jews’
>religion today. The religious Jews really believe it. And the
>non-religious Jews, the atheist Jews, behave as if they believe it. And
>I think that in a certain sense they do. I think this belief is in their
>blood. I think that this is what accounts for their almost incredible
>arrogance in their dealings with non-Jews.
>
>And of course, there’s not just belief: there’s also calculation. They
>understand that the success of their current effort to swindle the rest
>of the world out of every cent they can depends on three factors: it
>depends on their control of the mass media; it depends on the
>unprecedented degree of political corruption which exists almost
>everywhere in the Western world, on the unprecedented degree of
>democracy; and it depends on the confused and demoralized state of
>Gentiles everywhere.
>
>There never before has been a time when the Jews have wielded as much
>open power as they do today. No previous government in the United States
>has had as many Jews in positions of power as the present Clinton
>government. And that’s pretty much the way it is everywhere in Europe
>too. The Jews around Clinton are mirrored by high-ranking Jews around
>Tony Blair in Britain. In Russia, the Jews not only hold most of the key
>posts around the alcoholic and ailing Boris Yeltsin, they have one of
>their own as prime minister. And nearly everywhere except in the United
>States the Jews have succeeded in having laws passed making it illegal
>for a patriot to tell his countrymen what the Jews are up to. In
>Britain, in France, and in Germany hundreds of patriots are rotting in
>prisons today because they dared to speak the truth about the Jews. In
>Switzerland the Jews succeeded in having similar laws passed before they
>began extorting money from the Swiss. Only in Russia today are any
>significant number of patriots speaking out against the Jews and daring
>the government to try to silence them.
>
>And I suppose it seems reasonable to the Jews that when they have so
>much power they should use it to their advantage. They should go for
>everything they can get. The opportunity may pass. And they are going
>for it, everywhere and in every way. It’s interesting to note that this
>display of unbridled greed and arrogance has made even some of their
>fellow Jews a little nervous. Charles Krauthammer, a Jewish writer for
>the Washington Post, the second most powerful Jewish newspaper in the
>United States, wrote a column last month which begins with the words,
>and I quote: “The pursuit of billions in Holocaust guilt money has gone
>from the unseemly to the disgraceful.” — end quote — Krauthammer
>refers to the whole racket as a “Holocaust shakedown.” It’s not that
>Krauthammer doesn’t think the Jews should have all the money they can
>get from the Gentiles. It’s just that he’s appalled by the reckless
>display of naked, unprincipled greed as more and more Jewish shysters —
>that’s what Krauthammer calls them — trample each other in their
>current feeding frenzy. What if the Gentiles notice? What will the
>Gentiles think?
>
>Now, the unfortunate fact is that no non-Jewish writer for a major
>newspaper would dare to write what Krauthammer wrote. Not even in the
>United States, where it’s still legal to write such things. They’re all
>afraid. For two generations the Jewish media have conditioned them by
>instantly and loudly accusing anyone who opens his mouth of being a
>”racist” or a “hater” or an “anti-Semite.” They’ve been conditioned to
>run for cover whenever they hear one of those accusations. And that is
>the answer to our second question, why do we let them get away with it?
>
>Their media control keeps the couch potatoes confused and unaware; the
>corrupt politicians who have come to characterize our democracy are
>always ready to front for them and betray the people whose interests
>they are supposed to be representing; and those among us who are
>perceptive enough and independent-minded enough to understand what is
>happening are nearly all too cowardly to speak out. So it is easy enough
>for me to predict that the Jews will keep coming back for more — and
>more — and more — until they either have it all, as in Russia today,
>or what Charles Krauthammer is concerned about happens, and the Gentiles
>notice. But really, the former outcome is much more likely.
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>For further reading:
>
>John Sack, An Eye for an Eye (Harper-Collins, 1993)
>
>Isaiah, chapter 60
>
>Charles Krauthammer, “Holocaust Shakedown Is Disgraceful,” Washington
>Post, December 7, 1998
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Subject: Re: Bronfmans Family in Court re $700 Millions Unpaid Taxes!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.russian:104779 soc.culture.polish:136966 soc.culture.german:94163 soc.culture.canada:171932 can.general:133598 soc.culture.usa:289152On 7 Jan 1999 22:57:55 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOBC)
wanted to tell the truth but prefers to lie, so here is the real info:On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:22:11 GMT, [email protected] (John Corman)
wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 05:44:21 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>>Exactly. Let’s try to look at this from a different perspective. The
>>Bronfman family tried to circumvent $700 million from tax coffers. Whether
>>or not this is legal has yet to be decided by the courts.
>============================================================================
YES, it is completely true, as documented by the two news stories,
below.>Is it true that 1)they circumvented paying that kind of money
and 2)
>that it’s before the courts?YES, the swindle case has been before the Courts in Canada, and was
initially reported on 25 November 1997, as detailed below.>It’s my understanding that it’s a done deal and not before the courts.
>Revenue Canada doesn’t particularly like it because the eventual taxes
>due when the various capital gains materialize may not be as easy to
>collect now that the trust is a non resident of Canada.Presumably, Revenue Canada will have to seize other Bronfman assets in
Canada, such as Seagrams, etc.Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In articlewrote: >>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:58:33 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: JEW RITUAL MURDER – CHICAGO, 1955 (UPDATED)
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.polish:136973 soc.culture.russian:104781 soc.culture.baltics:17604 soc.culture.german:94164On 8 Jan 1999 14:35:52 GMT, [email protected] (LDenterint) wrote:
>>
Subject: JEWISH RITUAL MURDER – CHICAGO, 1955 (UPDATED)
>>From: Ed Kadach
>>Date: Fri, Jan 8, 1999 00:14 EST
>>Message-id: <[email protected]>>>Bear in mind that the usual season of solicitation for killing White
>>children by Jew Ritual Murderers is Purim and Passover. Attentive
>>parents are advised to keep your children indoors of an evening
>>at those seasons. And, keep them as far away as possible from
>>perverted Ashkenazic self-styled “jews” at ALL times.>>JEWISH RITUAL MURDER – CHICAGO, 1955 (UPDATED)
>>
>> [Note: This article, originally sent out on February 6th,
>>1997, has since been updated with information from the book
>>GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER by two veteran Chicago crime reporters,
>>Ed Baumann and John O’Brien. ]
>>
>> The Jewish community in Chicago, one of the wealthiest
>>in the world, has always exercised an extremely powerful degree
>>of behind the scenes influence in the Windy City, an influence
>>just as pervasive and powerful (if not more so) as that of the
>>Italian organized crime syndicates, all the more sinister for
>>being far less visible.
>>
>> Between October of 1955 and December of 1956,
>>a total of five White children, three young
>>boys including two brothers and a friend and two
>>teenaged sisters, were abducted and murdered in a manner
>>which was suggestive of Jewish ritual sacrifice, the
>>liturgical object of which is to obtain Gentile blood
>>to mix with the matzoh used in several esoteric Jewish
>>religious ceremonies such as Purim, Passover, and
>>Kol Nidre at Yom Kippur. The murder victims were
>>John and Anton Schuessler, Jr., Robert Peterson, and
>>Barbara and Patricia Grimes. Both cases remain officially
>>unsolved despite hundreds of man-hours of investigation
>>by the Chicago police. The Grimes case in fact featured
>>on an episode of UNSOLVED MYSTERIES several years ago,
>>but the show produced no further leads.
>>
>> The cases shared certain characterstics in common.
>>The boys, aged 14, 13, and 11 respectively, and the girls
>>aged twelve and fifteen were found nude, and yet none had
>>been sexually assaulted. According to the pathologists’ reports
>>they had been kept alive for some time after they were
>>reported missing, although the unusually cold weather in which
>>the girls’ bodies were exposed impeded fixing an exact time of
>>death. The corpses showed ligature marks on the wrists and ankles,
>>indicating that they had been tied or restrained. All the victims
>>had been tortured with mostly small, shallow cuts and puncture wounds,
>>none sufficient to cause death of itself. The official cause of death
>>was listed as blood loss and shock due to blood loss and exposure,
>>although 14 year-old Bobby Peterson appears to have resisted
>>his attackers and was beaten on the head with a blunt
>>instrument and strangled into unconsciousness by strong
>>hands with “fingernails like claws” which left marks on his throat.
>>All the childrens’ bodies were “drained of blood”.
>>
>> Further peculiarities were observed in the PATTERN
>>of the torture. The two female victims had been tormented by
>>repeated puncture wounds on the upper torso, thighs and buttocks,
>>suggesting a sadistic sexual element in the killers’ motivations,
>>but the two youngest male victims, the Schuesslers, had been
>>transfixed through the hands, wrists, and feet by larger weapons
>>similar to nails or a carpenter’s awl, inflicting wounds very
>>similar to the so-called stigmata, the wounds of Christ.
>>The eyes and mouths of the boys had also been mutilated in
>>a manner never publicly released.
>>
>> Another interesting forensic aspect of the case
>>was that the boys’ wounds contained traces of an unspecified
>>GRAIN, of all things. Flour for the matzoh? Floor mat patterns
>>imbedded in the flesh of one victim indicated that his body had been
>>transported in a Packard automobile, a luxury car popular among
>>the wealthiest people of the time which was no longer made and
>>which indicated someone with money enough to buy and maintain such
>>an upmarket vehicle.
>>
>> What is interesting about these cases is not the unsolved
>>murders themselves, but the view which for once we are given of
>>the lengths to which the Jews will go to cover up suspected ritual
>>murder cases. In view of the intense public interest in the case
>>there was of course a lot of media reporting. The Chicago Daily News
>>published an afternoon edition detailing the ritualistic nature of
>>the wounds and speculating that members of a “religious cult” might
>>be involved. Within ten minutes of the edition hitting the street,
>>trucks were sent out to bring them all in; all copies were ripped
>>off the newstands and taken back to the News building where they
>>were burned.
>>
>> Eight copies of this issue were obtained by a woman
>>named Mrs. Lyle Clark Van Hyning who published a conservative
>>journal called Women’s Voice. When she called the Daily News
>>office to ask why the paper had been recalled she was told that
>>there had been “complaints” about it and it was likely to cause
>>”racial unrest”. Mrs. Van Hyning had her own suspicions and sent
>>the father of the two murdered boys, Anton Schuessler Sr.,
>>a copy of Arnold Leese’s definitive work JEWISH RITUAL MURDER.
>>[Available by e-mail from NSNet]
>>
>> Schuessler read the booklet and was stunned by what
>>he learned. He then made the mistake of going to the police
>>and demanding that the possible ritual murder angle in his
>>sons’ death be investigated. The Cook County Sheriff of the
>>time was a Jew named Joseph Lohman, and he immediately placed
>>Mr. Schuessler under arrest on suspicion of killing his own
>>children. A Jewish deputy named Horowitz was sent to the
>>Schuessler home with a party of men; having ransacked the
>>house looking for “evidence”, Horowitz then placed Mrs.
>>Eleanor Schuessler and her family under virtual house arrest,
>>forbidding them to leave the house or speak with anyone on the
>>phone lest they “spread rumors about the Jews.”
>>The two Chicago detectives in charge of the case, Irish
>>lieutenants James Lynch and James McMahon, later complained
>>angrily that Lohman’s Cook County investigators had
>>destroyed evidence, threatened and tampered with witnesses,
>>and generally impeded their efforts to solve the case at
>>every turn.
>>
>> Anton Schuessler, Sr. took a lie detector test which
>>completely cleared him, as well as proving that he had an
>>ironclad alibi for the murders. Instead of releasing him, the
>>authorities committed Arnold Schuessler to a private mental
>>institution in Des Plaines, Illinois operated by a Dr. Leon
>>Steinfeld. Mr. Schuessler was rushed right into electroshock
>>treatment, where he died the same afternoon he arrived at
>>the “sanitarium”.
>>
>> There was sufficient public outcry over the
>>bereaved father’s strange death so that a public inquest
>>into Schuessler’s case was held and Dr. Steinfeld forced
>>to testify. He stated that Arnold Schuessler was suffering
>>from “hallucinations” and “paranoid delusions” that “certain
>>people were out to get him.” Steinfeld claimed that the
>>elder Schuessler had died of a heart attack. (Schuessler
>>was 42 years old and had no previous history of heart
>>trouble.)
>>
>> In 1955, and even in Chicago, there were still a few
>>honest public officials left, one of them being the Cook County
>>Coroner, a crusty old Irishman named Dr. Thomas McCarron who
>>was also a qualified psychiatrist. McCarron knew Dr. Steinfeld
>>of old. During World War Two, Steinfeld had been prosecuted
>>for giving Jewish boys facing the draft callup various legal
>>and illegal drugs which would give them heart fibrillations,
>>fill their lungs with liquid to simulate tuberculosis, give
>>them noxious skin conditions, etc. so they could avoid
>>military service. Steinfeld allegedly collected $2000 per
>>head for each Yiddishe Mama’s Little Bubbeleh he spared from
>>having to go face the Nazis’ cold steel and hot lead.
>>
>>
>> Dr. McCarron called Steinfeld a liar and a charlatan
>>and turned all the documents in the case over to the district
>>attorney, recommending that Steinfeld be prosecuted for perjury
>>and murder. He also bitterly denounced Steinfeld to the newspapers
>>and publicly stated his view that Arnold Schuessler had been murdered.
>>In response he received an official order from the district attorney
>>to make no more public comment on the case. Several nights later,
>>to emphasize the serious nature of the warning, a small bomb blew
>>the front door off McCarron’s house.
>>
>> But there was at least some belated justice. Several
>>days after the inquest closed, Leon Steinfeld fled the country.
>>He flew to Switzerland for a “rest cure” and one morning was
>>found hanging in his hotel room, an alleged suicide. Jewish
>>newspaper columnist Irv Kupcinet established a “sympathy fund”
>>and shortly thereafter presented Arnold Schuessler’s widow,
>>the mother of the murdered children, with $100,000 raised
>>from Chicago’s Jewish community—an immense sum of money in
>>1955-56, worth easily a couple of million today, and a very
>>strange gesture for Jews to make to a Gentile crime victim,
>>a German at that, unless it was to buy silence.
>>
>> There may have been one final murder connected with
>>this ghastly case. British author Arnold Leese was provided with
>>massive amounts of news clippings and information, including a
>>transcript of the inquest, by his correspondents in Chicago, and
>>he was at work on a definitive account of the Schuessler case as
>>one of the best documented incidents of Jewish ritual murder in
>>modern times when he suddenly died in the spring of 1956. None of
>>the Schuessler papers, which he had been working on and which he
>>showed to a number of friends and visitors, were found anywhere
>>in his possession when his effects were inventoried after his
>>death. The last loose end was tied up.
>>
>>One looks at those sad little faces on the milk cartons
>>today, and one can’t help but wonder…..
>>< >From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:58:34 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.ukrainian:45604 soc.culture.russian:104784 soc.culture.german:94165On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong
wrote:>The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>
>A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>
>The Jews’ physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>why Jews are disliked.
>
>In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>
>Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>with them.
>
>The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>aid.
>
>The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>billion/year of US taxpayers’ money continues to be sent to Israel as
>foreign aid.
>
>The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>
>The Jews stole the Palestinians’ homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>the Jews.
>
>In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the “anti-semitism” they are
>always complaining about.On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 03:34:12 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>Danko wrote:
>> > spea[email protected] wrote in article <[email protected]>…>> > “firewell” evidently thinks that it is directed at the target
>> > culture, but he distinguishes “substance” as a separate and
>> > unrelated entity…
>> >
>> > Frankly, I tried to elicit from him/her a clarification, by
>> > suggesting that such antipathy is understood to encompass
>> > the entire known spectrum of the object’s existance that
>> > includes religion, and hence referred him to a definition of
>> > “culture”.
>> >
>> > Since you responded with a different thesis, I suggest that
>> > you should try to substantiate your claim of this solely
>> > religious antagonism in the case of Jews, of course with the
>> > understanding that a commonly accepted definition of a “Jew”
>> > is ” a descendant of the Hebrew people”…
>>
>> This is a definition “commonly accepted” only in the former USSR. If you
>> look at the Collins dictionary it gives “a person whose religion is
>> Judaism”
>> as the definition of the word Jew. As for ethnic aspect of the word Jew,
>> it relates rather to Semitic people in English, but such usage is incorrect
>> in more or less structured language (which I prefer to use). Even in the
>> layman conversation it is more common to hear “Hebraic woman/man” rather
>> than “Jewish woman/man” when the reference is to ethnic specifics of the
>> individual in question.
>
>
>
> According to the Webster’s New International Dictionary of the
> English Language, Second Edition Unabridged, G&C. Merriam Co.,
> Springfield, Massachusetts, 1961:
>
> “Jew – n. Orig. one belonging to the tribe or kingdom of Judah;
> after the return from the Babylonian captivity, any mem-
> ber of the new Hebrew state; hence any person of the
> Hebrew race or people or anyone whose religion is
> Judaism.”
>
>
> It seems that such definition is “commonly accepted” also
> throughout the English-speaking world…
>
>
>
>> >
>> > Again, before proceeding any further, please consult a good
>> > English dictionary in order to clarify the definition/s of the
>> > English noun “Jew”…
>>
>> I just did, see above. BTW, define “good” when applied to dictionary.
>
>
>
>
> Anything weighing more than 1 kg…
>
>
>
>>
>> > With respect to Amazon’s reply which you quote above, you
>> > should be able to appreciate (especially should you support
>> > the Judaism’s objection to the “Jesus Christ myth”) that all
>> > religions, in general, claim to be the sole pathway to God
>> > and,at the same time, regard each other’s interpretation to be
>> > fallacious and heretical.
>>
>> I accept that. I never disputed that. That is where any “religion of love
>> is bound to become a religion of hate.”
>
>
>
> Excluding such that formally censure or disallow hate per se…
>
> For example, Christianity.
>
> When correctly interpreted, it continues to be the religion
> of love.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> > Hence such terms as: pagans, heathens, infidels, goyim…
>> >
>>
>> Yes, I agree again. Let us see what Amazon has to say about this. It’s
>> bound to be very amusing.
>
>
>
> I suspect that Amazon will provide us with the correct answer.
>
> If there exists but one truth, and not several truths, then
> it is plausible to argue that only one religion is the most
> perfect pathway to God…
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> > I would be carefull about the use of the term “cretinism”
>> > (defined as “a thyroid deficiency causing arrested mental
>> > and physical development”) because it refers to a specific
>> > cause of mental and physical deficiency. Moreover, it has
>> > a certain racist connotation because it probably was derived
>> > from a derogatory term for the inhabitant of the island of
>> > Crete…
>>
>> I already explained few weeks back what I mean under “cretinism”. Cretinism
>> as used by me and many in analysis of political behaviour is inability to
>> accept certain premises solely on the grounds of secondary factors. E.g.
>> conservatives support this point of view I am against conservatives, hence
>> this point of view must be wrong. To me this is a cretinism, which may not
>> have been caused by “thyroid” deficiency, but is definitely a result of
>> some sort of deficiency, and it does arrest at least mental development of
>> the person in question.
>>
>> As for the “racist connotation”, you are really over-stretching it.
>
>
>
>
> I apologize to the inhabitants of the isle of Crete for even
> suggesting that the word “cretin” may have had anything to do
> with Crete…
>
> The same dictionary, i.e., Webster’s, informs that the word
> “cretin” derives from the French ( cretin ):
>
> “[a dial. form meaning prop. Christian, hence human being]”
>(?),
>
> which is quite interesting…
>
>
>
>> > Please do not exaggerate. Intelligence and ethnic/racial
>> > intolerance are not mutually exclusive.
>>
>> Depending on definition of intelligence. Even if you take a layman’s
>> definition of intelligence as it is given by dictionary of [natural, i.e.
>> not structured] English language – “the capacity for understanding; ability
>> to perceive and comprehend meaning”, it seems like ethnic/racial
>> intolerance impedes intelligence and hence renders it impossible as a
>> totality.
>
>
>
>
> But intelligence is very a relative concept, to the extent
> that to claim totality would be absurd…
>
>
>
>
>>
>> > Glance at the people in your society…
>> > Do you see the mentally incompetent where you look?
>>
>> Whenever I see fanatics, I see mentally incompetent people.
>> Most people in my society do not give a toss about nations, religions,
>> classes, etc. they just care about their personal well-being. They
>> are NORMAL people.
>
>
>
> It sounds very self-centered…
>
> Can such a society exist independently as a cohesive entity
> when its members care only about their individual selves,
> ready to sacrifice nothing for their families, neighbors,
> compatriots and fellow man?
>
> There would be no tax base, no social net, no laws or police
> force to protect the individual, no army to defend this society
> as a whole from a foreign aggression…
>
> This sounds like anarchy.
>
> It seems that the only way in which people like this could
> actually prosper would be at the expense of those who would
> be willing to sacrifice themselves for the greater, common
> good…, as is evident in any parasitic relationship.
>
>
>
>
>> > Come on… Do you suggest that Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, etc.,
>> > i.e., the dominant specimens within that regime, were
>> > unfamiliar with the writings of Marx?
>>
>> Yes and no. Lenin was most likely unable to comprehend or unwilling to
>> accept early writings of Marx. Lenin searched for ideological tool which
>> would have helped him to achieve his ends, he did not go looking for truth.
>> Trotsky was pretty primitive thinker, which is more than true especially in
>> case of Stalin. Having read 12 volumes of the works of the latter I could
>> say that his logic and thoughts never passed the arithmetical logic. I
>> would consider A. Bogdanov and Plekhanov as much more capable philosophers
>> of the
>> period in question.
>
>
>
> Which one of the two then wrote Stalin’s speeches and
>treatises?
>
> Although I am unfamiliar with his publications, I am told that
> some were compulsory reading and that the norm dictated that
> the embelished quotations be recapitulated flawlessly for best
> effect…
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> > I think that it would be safe to say that they at least
>> > referred to him, if not quoted him often…
>>
>> If I am allowed to make a joke in reply, then here it goes. In 1940s in
>> Paris
>> Marx attended a workshop of “Marxist Club” upon leaving which he noted “I
>> am not a Marxist”, few years later he became a Marxist indeed.
>
>
>
>
> As the saying goes, if the shoe fits then wear it…
>
>
>
>
>> > Do you imply then that, in each case, these sets of principles
>> > could have been applied differently, to create workable
>> > systems…?
>>
>> Which “sets”? Marxism is not workable as ideology. No ideology is workable
>> in the long run. But Marx’s philosophy contains potential which is still
>> being used and realised by philosophers world-wide. Sartre said in 1948 (if
>> I am not mistaken about the date), “after Marx we all Marxists.”
>
>
>
>
> “Nationalism and class-awareness”…
>
>
>
>
>
>> > Obviously, a full scale attempt at the implementation of
>> > these principles, which were put forth by Engels and Marx,
>> > resulted only in the deaths of at least 25 million people
>> > on the Ukrainian territory alone, as well as untold depri-
>> > vation and suffering of many more millions who had the
>> > misfortune to live within the boundaries of this Evil
>> > empire…
>> >
>> > It is intriguing whether Messrs. Engels and Marx had the
>> > intelligence to predict the failure of the system to be built
>> > on their hypotheses.
>>
>> Marx did. Look at the Manuscripts mentioned above (forget about Engels). It
>> was not system based on Marxism that failed, it was that Marxism fell into
>> the trap which was pretty well identified by Marx himself. If you look at
>> Plekhanov’s “Our Disagreements”, there is a clear description of the
>> scenario of what would have happened and did happen in Russia. The problem
>> is that a thinker is also a human being.
>
>
>
> And as human beings, it would be expected of them to do their
> utmost to stop the experiment when it started to fail, if not
> to prevent a doomed trial altogether…
>
> Marx lived to see the effects of collectivisation and the
> ensuing Great Famine in Ukraine, in the early 1930’s.
>
> Did he like those effects…?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> > Probably not…, although if true, they would be held culpable
>> > in counselling to commit the crime…
>>
>> Some of them (Marx, Plekhanov, Bogdanov) are culpable of being humans, some
>> (Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin) were criminals, and some (Engels) just thought
>> they were something.
>>
>
>
>
> Ruinous architects, bancrupt hypocrites and unscrupulous
> opportunists…
>
> GHCFrom [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:58:35 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.ukrainian:45626 soc.culture.russian:104853 soc.culture.german:94184On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong
wrote:>The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>
>A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>
>The Jews’ physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>why Jews are disliked.
>
>In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>
>Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>with them.
>
>The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>aid.
>
>The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>billion/year of US taxpayers’ money continues to be sent to Israel as
>foreign aid.
>
>The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>
>The Jews stole the Palestinians’ homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>the Jews.
>
>In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the “anti-semitism” they are
>always complaining about.On 7 Jan 1999 19:46:25 GMT, “Danko” <[email protected]> wrote:
>spea[email protected] wrote in article <[email protected]>…
>> Danko wrote:
>> > spea[email protected] wrote in article <[email protected]>…
>> > > [email protected] wrote:>> > > (text deleted)
>> > > > 1. Bakunin was a mild anti-semite, typical for most Russians of
>that
>> > time.
>> > > > His criticism is based on his personal dislike of Jewish culture
>and
>> > not on
>> > > > substance.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > An interesting view of “mild” ethnic hostility…
>> >
>> > “Hostility” towards Jews is not an “ethnic” one but a religious one.
>>
>>
>>
>> “firewell” evidently thinks that it is directed at the target
>> culture, but he distinguishes “substance” as a separate and
>> unrelated entity…
>>
>> Frankly, I tried to elicit from him/her a clarification, by
>> suggesting that such antipathy is understood to encompass
>> the entire known spectrum of the object’s existance that
>> includes religion, and hence referred him to a definition of
>> “culture”.
>>
>> Since you responded with a different thesis, I suggest that
>> you should try to substantiate your claim of this solely
>> religious antagonism in the case of Jews, of course with the
>> understanding that a commonly accepted definition of a “Jew”
>> is ” a descendant of the Hebrew people”…
>
>This is a definition “commonly accepted” only in the former USSR. If you
>look at the Collins dictionary it gives “a person whose religion is
>Judaism”
>as the definition of the word Jew. As for ethnic aspect of the word Jew,
>it relates rather to Semitic people in English, but such usage is incorrect
>in more or less structured language (which I prefer to use). Even in the
>layman conversation it is more common to hear “Hebraic woman/man” rather
>than “Jewish woman/man” when the reference is to ethnic specifics of the
>individual in question.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Here a quote from Amazons’ reply to me which clearly demonstrates
>”mild”
>> > religious “hostility” towards Jews:
>> >
>> > “Wrong, you must take all of Jesus’s teachings together, and all are
>> > either right or they make His most important claims totally crazy which
>> > is why those Jews who do not accept Him do not celebrate His birth or
>> > want to have anything to do with Him. He came to them first of all but
>> > as a nation they rejected Him. And as a result God rejected them,
>> > they are no longer the chosen people.”
>> >
>> > Since to be a Jew means following Judaism, Jew cannot by definition
>accept
>> > the Jesus Christ myth. You all seem to miss the difference between
>being a
>> > Jew (i.e. follower of Judaism [ethnic Ukrainian having converted into
>> > Judaism becomes a Jew without ceasing of being a Ukrainian]) and being
>a
>> > Hebrew (i.e. ethnic definition).
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, before proceeding any further, please consult a good
>> English dictionary in order to clarify the definition/s of the
>> English noun “Jew”…
>
>I just did, see above. BTW, define “good” when applied to dictionary.
>
>> With respect to Amazon’s reply which you quote above, you
>> should be able to appreciate (especially should you support
>> the Judaism’s objection to the “Jesus Christ myth”) that all
>> religions, in general, claim to be the sole pathway to God
>> and,at the same time, regard each other’s interpretation to be
>> fallacious and heretical.
>
>I accept that. I never disputed that. That is where any “religion of love
>is bound to become a religion of hate.”
>
>> Hence such terms as: pagans, heathens, infidels, goyim…
>>
>
>Yes, I agree again. Let us see what Amazon has to say about this. It’s
>bound to be very amusing.
>
>> >
>> >
>> > > On what else do you base someone’s ethnic/racial intolerance if
>> > > not on “the totality of socially transmitted behaviour patterns
>> > > characteristic of a people” (i.e., culture)…?
>> >
>> > How about cretinism. It is my good believe that “ethnic/racial
>intolerance”
>> > is a symptom of cretinism and cretinism only no matter how deep a
>> > foundation one pretends it might have in a “science”.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be carefull about the use of the term “cretinism”
>> (defined as “a thyroid deficiency causing arrested mental
>> and physical development”) because it refers to a specific
>> cause of mental and physical deficiency. Moreover, it has
>> a certain racist connotation because it probably was derived
>> from a derogatory term for the inhabitant of the island of
>> Crete…
>
>I already explained few weeks back what I mean under “cretinism”. Cretinism
>as used by me and many in analysis of political behaviour is inability to
>accept certain premises solely on the grounds of secondary factors. E.g.
>conservatives support this point of view I am against conservatives, hence
>this point of view must be wrong. To me this is a cretinism, which may not
>have been caused by “thyroid” deficiency, but is definitely a result of
>some sort of deficiency, and it does arrest at least mental development of
>the person in question.
>
>As for the “racist connotation”, you are really over-stretching it.
>
>> Please do not exaggerate. Intelligence and ethnic/racial
>> intolerance are not mutually exclusive.
>
>Depending on definition of intelligence. Even if you take a layman’s
>definition of intelligence as it is given by dictionary of [natural, i.e.
>not structured] English language – “the capacity for understanding; ability
>to perceive and comprehend meaning”, it seems like ethnic/racial
>intolerance impedes intelligence and hence renders it impossible as a
>totality.
>
>> Glance at the people in your society…
>> Do you see the mentally incompetent where you look?
>
>Whenever I see fanatics, I see mentally incompetent people.
>Most people in my society do not give a toss about nations, religions,
>classes, etc. they just care about their personal well-being. They
>are NORMAL people.
>
>> >
>> > > Otherwise, if only certain traits are targeted, some of which
>> > > may be shared with other races or cultures, can one really
>refer
>> > > to a particular anti-(ethnic/racial)ism?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2. Soviet system had little in common with theoretical Marxism
>except
>> > the
>> > > > name. It’s obvious the original intent of the founders of the SU
>was to
>> > > > create a communist state. However, that proved unworkable, so they
>> > resorted
>> > > > to a simple political and economical dictatorship in all but the
>name.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > (quoted text deleted)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On the contrary, the lifestyles and attitudes of the Soviet
>> > > leaders clearly indicate that they never intended to follow
>> > > the published tenets of theoretical Marxism…
>> >
>> > My personal experience shows that most of them never even read Marx,
>> > however,I would also oppose the term “theoretical Marxism” since
>Marxism
>> > was never a theory in a strict sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> Come on… Do you suggest that Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, etc.,
>> i.e., the dominant specimens within that regime, were
>> unfamiliar with the writings of Marx?
>
>Yes and no. Lenin was most likely unable to comprehend or unwilling to
>accept early writings of Marx. Lenin searched for ideological tool which
>would have helped him to achieve his ends, he did not go looking for truth.
>Trotsky was pretty primitive thinker, which is more than true especially in
>case of Stalin. Having read 12 volumes of the works of the latter I could
>say that his logic and thoughts never passed the arithmetical logic. I
>would consider A. Bogdanov and Plekhanov as much more capable philosophers
>of the
>period in question.
>
>
>> I think that it would be safe to say that they at least
>> referred to him, if not quoted him often…
>
>If I am allowed to make a joke in reply, then here it goes. In 1940s in
>Paris
>Marx attended a workshop of “Marxist Club” upon leaving which he noted “I
>am not a Marxist”, few years later he became a Marxist indeed.
>
>> >
>> > > Ergo, it was probably apparent to them that the system was
>> > > unworkable from the start.
>> >
>> > Bolshevism (Leninism) is a utilisation of Marxian principles for
>> > ideological
>> > purposes only. What Hitler achieved on the basis of nationalism Lenin
>> > achieved on the basis of class-awareness. Same principle, same crap.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you imply then that, in each case, these sets of principles
>> could have been applied differently, to create workable
>> systems…?
>
>Which “sets”? Marxism is not workable as ideology. No ideology is workable
>in the long run. But Marx’s philosophy contains potential which is still
>being used and realised by philosophers world-wide. Sartre said in 1948 (if
>I am not mistaken about the date), “after Marx we all Marxists.”
>
>>
>> > > It is interesting to speculate whether Engels and Marx
>themselves
>> > > believed in what they were preaching…
>> >
>> > You clearly never read them, have you? Engels was a Trojan horse of
>early
>> > Bolshevism, while Marx (however deeply affected by his influence since
>the
>> > Manifesto) produced some principles, which did open way to a range of
>> > philosophical and social movements. As for believing, I would say that
>> > Engels was more proficient in “infantry tactics” than in any part of
>> > philosophy, while Marx undertook a task, which he was never able to
>> > complete
>> > due to physical and circumstantial restrictions. What he intended to do
>is
>> > clearly stated at the end of part I (or is it part II, could not be
>precise
>> > now, sorry) of his manuscripts of 1842-44. He managed only to address
>one
>> > of the three relations of alienated Self of Man, the lesser important
>one
>> > (Das Kapital). The work is not finished yet, however.
>> >
>> > Danko
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously, a full scale attempt at the implementation of
>> these principles, which were put forth by Engels and Marx,
>> resulted only in the deaths of at least 25 million people
>> on the Ukrainian territory alone, as well as untold depri-
>> vation and suffering of many more millions who had the
>> misfortune to live within the boundaries of this Evil
>> empire…
>>
>> It is intriguing whether Messrs. Engels and Marx had the
>> intelligence to predict the failure of the system to be built
>> on their hypotheses.
>
>Marx did. Look at the Manuscripts mentioned above (forget about Engels). It
>was not system based on Marxism that failed, it was that Marxism fell into
>the trap which was pretty well identified by Marx himself. If you look at
>Plekhanov’s “Our Disagreements”, there is a clear description of the
>scenario of what would have happened and did happen in Russia. The problem
>is that a thinker is also a human being.
>
>> Probably not…, although if true, they would be held culpable
>> in counselling to commit the crime…
>
>Some of them (Marx, Plekhanov, Bogdanov) are culpable of being humans, some
>(Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin) were criminals, and some (Engels) just thought
>they were something.
>
>I am sorry, I have to go. I would try to elaborate on this over weekend.
>
>With respect,
>
>Danko
>
>> GHC
>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:58:39 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: COURT ORDERS JEW BRONFMANS TO PAY TAXES!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.polish:137098 soc.culture.russian:104937 soc.culture.german:94215 soc.culture.europe:144713On 8 Jan 1999 21:42:56 GMT, [email protected] (LDenterint) wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:18:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In articlewrote: >>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!
George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??>ay-vay !!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.portuguese:60751 soc.culture.swiss:30975 soc.culture.brazil:75770 pt.geral:73311 pt.soc.politica:21623 soc.culture.russian:104938 soc.culture.german:94216 soc.culture.polish:137099On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 08:11:53 +0000, ASMarques
wrote:>Newsgroups redirected. Follow-up will go to soc.culture.swiss,
>soc.culture.brazil and no longer to pt.religiao.
>
>Daniel Keren wrote:
>>
>> Neo-Nazi activist, ASMarques, writes:
>
>Howdy, Danny? Thanks for your renewed participation in our little
>”Holocaust” discussions in the Portuguese newsgroups. But your
>”cry-Nazi” hysterics are to no avail. The Nazis are the only ones that
>underwent extermination by fire and the rope, and I suppose the paranoia
>that sees Nazis everywhere is simply trying to hide this very telling
>fact.
>
>> # Minha Senhora, os tolinhos acreditam em cabecas reduzidas, sabonete
>> # humano, adubo ‘a base de cinza de crematorio, e camaras de gas
>> # funcionais funcionando com motores de submarino ou insecticida.
>>
>> The “insecticide” he mentions is Zyklon-B, which releases one of the
>> most toxic gases known, HCN (hydrogen cyanide). This gas is still
>> used to execute condemned inmates in some US prisons. It is very
>> appropriate for mass murder; see, for example
>
>No it isn’t. Take, for instance, the deposition of Wolfgang Froelich
>during the recent trial of Swiss revisionist Jurgen Graf (condemned to
>15 months imprisonment and 18,000 SwF in monetary penalties for
>investigating the “Holocaust” in Russian archives and publishing the
>results, as well as a booklet titled “On the Decline of Swiss Freedom”).
>
>Froelich is an Austrian engineer and an expert witness whose field of
>expertise are process engineering and gas applications. He told the
>court he has carried out numerous gassings to exterminate pests and
>infectious microbes. Here is how he answers the questions by public
>prosecutor Aufdenblatten:
>
>Aufdenblatten: “In your opinion were mass gassings with Zyklon B
>possible?”
>
>Froelich: “No”.
>
>Aufdenblatten: “Why not?”
>
>Froelich: “The pesticide Zyklon B is hydrocyanic acid absorbed in a
>granular-shaped carrier substance. It is released though contact with
>the air. The evaporation point of hydrocyanic acid is 25.7 degrees
>(Celsius). The higher the temperature, the more rapid is the rate of
>evaporation. The delousing chambers in which Zyklon B was used in NS
>(German wartime) camps and elsewhere were heated to 30 degrees and
>higher, so that the hydrocyanic acid would be released rapidly from the
>carrier granules. However, in the half-underground mortuaries of the
>Auschwitz-Birkenau crematories, where witnesses claim that mass killings
>with Zyklon B took place, the temperatures were much lower. Even if one
>allows for the warming of the spaces by the body warmth of the
>hypothetical prisoners, the temperature would not have been more than 15
>degrees, even in summer time. Consequently, it would have taken many
>hours for the hydrocyanic acid to evaporate.
>
>”According to eyewitness reports, the victims died very quickly. The
>witnesses mention time frames of ‘instantaneous’ to ’15 minutes’. To be
>able to kill the gas chamber prisoners in such a short time, the Germans
>would have had to use ridiculously large amounts of Zyklon — I estimate
>from 40 to 50 kilograms for each gassing. This would have made any work
>in the gas chamber fundamentally impossible. The special detachment
>(Sonderkommando) people, whom the witnesses say were assigned the task
>of clearing out (dead bodies) from them (the gas chambers), would have
>collapsed immediately upon entering the rooms, even if they were wearing
>gas masks. Enormous amounts of hydrocyanic acid would have streamed out
>into the open, and would have poisoned the entire camp”.
>
>Froehlich’s statement corroborates the investigations and declarations
>of such specialists as gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter, Austrian
>engineer Wlater Lueftl, American research chemist William B. Lindsay,
>German chemist Germar Rudolf, and German engineer Wofgang Schuster.
>
>Now comes another interesting bit. Immediately following Froelich’s
>statement, here is what public prosecutor Aufdenblatten had to say to
>him:
>
>Aufdenblatten: “I hereby ask the court to bring charges against you for
>racial discrimination, on the basis of Article 261 (the Anti-Racism Law)
>or otherwise I’ll do it myself”.
>
>So this is how Zyklon B killed all the millions and why “Anti-Racism”
>Laws are needed! Defence attorney Stehrenberger could only inform the
>court that in view of this blatant intimidation of the witness , he
>would withdraw from the case. He later expressed again his objections to
>the amazing proceedings, and resumed his duties as defence attorney. To
>no avail, of course:
>
>Judge Andrea Staubli (to Graf): “Can’t you imagine that Jews feel
>offended by your books?”
>
>Graf: “Yes, and many non-Jews as well. The brain-washing has been so
>thorough that anyone who inadvertently stumbles upon the truth would be
>completely upset”.
>
>Staubli: “And don’t you care if Jews feel offended by your books?”
>
>Graf: “Edgar Bronfman (the president of the Jewish World Congress) said
>recently that Switzerland is like a man who has to have his feet held in
>the fire before he sees reason. Can’t you imagine that a Swiss person
>would feel offended by that? Why is it that only Jewish feelings are
>taken into account and never the feelings of non-Jews?”
>
>Graf got his 15 months and 18,000 SwF. His publisher Gerhard Foerster —
>a 78 years old man suffering from several illnesses, who needs a wheel
>chair to go around — got 12 months imprisonment and 53,000 SwF,
>assorted financial punishment.
>
>BTW, here is what the Swiss Anti-Racism Law — Article (Section) 261 of
>the criminal code (Strafgesetzbuch) — has to say on the subject:
>”Whoever (…) flagrantly whitewashes (groeblich verharmlost) or seeks
>to justify, genocide or other crimes against humanity (…) will be
>punished by (up to three years) imprisonment or a fine”.
>
>Sounds like Messieurs Fabius & Gayssot really are succeeding in making
>disciples, doesn’t it?
>
>The “Anti-Racism” Law is in vigour since January 1, 1995. Until now
>there were no cases presented by Africans or Turks. All the cases have
>resulted from the “Holocaust” sensibilities of Jewish groups that feel
>offended by the truth about the gigantic “Holocaust” hoax.
>
>Mrs. Ruth Dreyfuss, the first Jewish woman to be elected President of
>Switzerland by the electoral college, has just considered (“Lusa”
>telegram, January 6) that the extorsion of the Swiss banks on behalf of
>the Jewish groups and international organisations was the rightful thing
>to do. She didn’t use these words naturally, but that’s what her
>position on the matter amounts to. She also believes the role of
>Switzerland during the War should be re-evaluated. Soon, no doubt, we’ll
>learn that Switzerland was one of the major Axis partners, exactly like
>Portugal, a neutral country who committed the crime of exporting a few
>silly cans of sardines to the Nazis, while giving air and naval bases to
>the Allies. Seems we too, were accepting gold dentures as currency…
>
>And that’s why the Internet is so important for exposing the “Holocaust”
>fraud:
>http://www.ety.com/tell/
>
>More data in English about the trial of Jurgen Graf can be found in the
>”Journal of Historical Review”, vol.17, #4:
>http://www.ihr.org/jhr/jhrindex.html
>
>More persecution and censorship cases in:
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/fran/polpen/polpen.html
>http://www.codoh.com/index_main.html
>http://www.vho.org/censor/Censor.html
>http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/misc/attention.html
>
>> “Cyanide (HCN gas) is notorious as a poison (Gee, 1987)
>> but also is ideal as a chemical weapon. It kills rapidly,
>> dissipates quickly, and leaves no toxic residue”.
>>
>> (“Chemical Warfare Agents”, by Satu M. Somani, Department of
>> Pharmacology, Southern Illinois University, School of Medicine.
>> Academic Press 1992, p. 211).
>>
>> Maybe “ASMarques” will try to demonstrate his “theories”, by exposing
>> himself to HCN gas in a closed room?
>
>My dear fellow, if “Danny Keren” is inserted in a barrel of beer, he
>will die by drowning. However, insertion in barrels of beer wouldn’t be
>a practical or intelligent way for the industrial extermination of
>millions of people. It would be a surrealistic joke.
>
>> As to the motor he mentions – exhaust from large engines will kill
>> people quite quickly, especially if many of them are crammed
>> together in a closed chamber. This is known to everyone with even
>> a little of technical background and understanding.
>
>Not if it is a submarine *diesel* motor, like I mentioned and we are
>required to believe. Diesel fumes are not toxic. Of course one would
>die… by asphixy, and that would be an EXTREMELY long, convolute,
>difficult, and idiotic way of performing mass murder. Practical people
>use bullets: quick, efficient, cheap and infallible. Ask the veteran
>professional authors of the Katyn massacre, if you don’t believe the
>obvious…
>
>See you,
>
>ASMarques
>*****************
>P.S.:
>Some revisionist sites more for Danny’s information. Bookmark them now!
>
>Excellent fast introduction:
>http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/leaflets.html
>
>Six important sites with a lot of information in several languages and
>many links to others:
>http://www.codoh.com/
>http://www.ihr.org/index.html
>http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/index.html
>http://abbc.com/aaargh/
>http://www.vho.org/Home.html
>http://www.adam.com.au/fredadin/adins.html
>
>Air photo interpretation with maps and photos (sound commentary or
>text):
>http://www.air-photo.com/
>
>Three important personal sites:
>http://www.fpp.co.uk/ (David irving)
>http://members.aol.com/ihrgreg/index.html (Greg Raven)
>http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ (Arthur Butz)
>
>A discussion forum open to all (and its archives):
>http://www.codoh.com/bbs/From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 13:58:43 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: Poles Pick on Jews – Why?
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.polish:137182 soc.culture.russian:105021 soc.culture.german:94250On 9 Jan 1999 16:26:16 -0800, AnonPoster
wrote:>An article in Sunday’s The Independent from Britain.
>http://www.independent.co.uk/> Poland blames Jews for the crimes of Communism
>From Adam LeBor in Warsaw
>
>The frontlines are being drawn in eastern Europe’s latest conflict. This is a
>battle not over territory or borders, but for control of something more
>intangible and, for the continent’s political health, more important: memory and
>historical justice.
>
>This year marks 10 years since the collapse of the Berlin Wall, which triggered
>the end of the Soviet bloc and, ultimately, the Soviet Union itself. A decade
>after those first slabs of masonry came crashing down, the noise reverberates
>still across the lands where the Red Star of Russia once ruled unchallenged.
>
>For nations, like people, suffer from the traumas that twist and shape their
>psyche: traumas of war and occupation, resistance and collaboration with
>dictatorships, Nazi or Soviet.
>
>It is perhaps difficult for citizens of Britain, a country that has not been
>occupied for centuries, to imagine the mental scars left by Nazi and Soviet
>occupation and the choices of collaboration and compromise demanded by a reign
>of terror.
>
>Now officials are grappling with the question of how to bring to account those
>Communist officials who organised systematic human rights abuses including
>judicially-sanctioned torture and murder.
>
>Polish officials are now seeking the extradition of two alleged Communist-era
>criminals: Helena Brus, a former military prosecutor, now living in Oxford, and
>Salomon Morel, one-time commander of a Soviet detention camp, now living in Tel
>Aviv. “This is payback time for the Stalinist period. The same excuses were
>given by Nazi war criminals. They said they were innocent because they were just
>following orders,” said Zbigniew Wolak, veteran in the Polish Home Army, many of
>whose comrades were killed or imprisoned on their return to post-war Communist
>Poland by the Soviets and their local supporters.
>
>”You cannot punish the hundreds of thousands of people who were involved, but
>you can bring to justice those who were prominent. This is a battle for the
>memory of future generations. Either they will know the truth or it will be
>hidden.”
>
>But who to bring to justice, when the very nature of a totalitarian regime means
>that almost every citizen was, by their complicity in its demands, implicated to
>a greater or lesser degree, in its continuance? Perfectly preserved for decades
>in the vaults of national memory, these events are now rising to the surface of
>the consciousness of nations such as Poland, triggering a spate of attempts by
>legal officials to win what they believe is belated justice, but what others
>call veng-eance – a vengeance forged on the anvil of ancient prejudices.
>
>The attempt by Polish authorities to force the extradition of Helena Brus, a
>former Stalinist-era military prosecutor in 1950s Warsaw, from Britain, has
>highlighted an issue that is set to haunt the new democracies of post-Communist
>eastern Europe for years to come. Last week, Poland’s Supreme Court quashed an
>arrest warrant for Mrs Brus, formerly Wolinska.
>
>Now married to an Oxford don, Wlodzimierz Brus, fellow of Wolfson College, Mrs
>Brus was accused of issuing an illegal arrest warrant for General August Emil
>Fieldorf, a leader of the Polish Home Army, who was hanged in 1953. Her case is
>likely to go to appeal.
>
>Salomon Morel is wanted by the prosecutor in the southern Polish city of
>Katowice, charged with crimes against humanity while he was commander of
>Swietochlowice camp. More than 3,000 prisoners, mainly Germans, were held at the
>camp during 1945; more than half died or were murdered, according to the Polish
>news agency. Israel has refused his extradition, saying that the crimes with
>which he is charged are not seen there as genocide, and so are subject to
>statutes of limitations.
>
>Dorota Boriczek, now 68 and living in Ludwigsberg, Germany, was taken to
>Swietochlowice when she was 14, with her mother. Morel was a cruel and barbaric
>man, she said. “He was young and very brutal. He came in at night, we could hear
>the cries of the men as they were beaten, then they threw the bodies out.” Two
>straightforward cases, then, of two aged, alleged criminals, with blood on their
>hands, either directly or indirectly, finally being called to account.
>
>Except that these cases are anything but straightforward. Both Mr Brus and Mr
>Morel are Jewish, Holocaust survivors who lost many in their families to the
>Nazis. However bloody their hands seem, they were two small cogs in a machine,
>run by hundreds of thousands of Stalin’s willing functionaries. Many of those
>officials now live peacefully in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.
>
>During 1997 and 1998, Poland did not make a single extradition request from
>these countries for former Communist officials, according to the Polish Ministry
>of Justice. “The evidence against Salomon Morel is very damaging, but why, of
>all the commanders of the dozens of camps run by the Soviets, pick on him?”
>asked Konstanty Gebert, editor of the Warsaw-based Jewish magazine Midrasz.
>”There are no extradition requests to other countries where former NKVD officers
>must be living.
>
>”The Morel case is very worrying, because when the Poles made the extradition
>request they must have known that Israel had no legal basis on which to accept
>it. So either the experts at the Ministry of Justice are incompetent, or this
>was done to make Israel look bad.”
>
>For Maria Fieldorf-Czarska, who is daughter of the hanged General Fieldorf and
>is pressing for Mrs Brus’s extradition, Poland has said sorry to Jews too many
>times. Now it is their turn to apologise to Poland, she claims. Mrs
>Fieldorf-Czarska, now 73 and living in Gdansk is blunt with her opinions. “The
>sad truth is that our secret services in the 1950s were dominated by Jews. They
>were disposed to Communism, perhaps it is genetic. All the people connected with
>the arrest and prosecution of my father were Jewish, and most of them went to
>Israel.
>
>”Nobody says sorry to us, but nowadays we have to say sorry to Jews all the
>time. Our government apologised for the Jews killed by the Germans: now Israel
>should apologise to us.”The people of Poland have every reason to feel as does the writer,
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Subject: Re: Katyn Massacre by JEWS/KGB
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.polish:137253 soc.culture.russian:105111 soc.culture.german:94264 soc.culture.europe:144894On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:15:48 GMT, [email protected] (CelebornTx)
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:24:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>>>
>>>>Katyn
>>>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>>>
>>>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant
>>>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a
>>>>living because of their losses during the so-called “Holocaust.”
>>>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it.
>>>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more
>>>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them
>>>>$7 billion, which “Holocaust” victims allegedly had stashed in
>>>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers
>>>>during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>With a few “bought” Gentile politicians fronting for them, the
>>>>foremost among these being New York’s Senator Alphonse D’Amato,
>>>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S.
>>>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in
>>>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for
>>>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the
>>>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried
>>>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the
>>>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>>>
>>>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>>>Switzerland’s elected officials, however, and resentment against
>>>>the Jews’ extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the
>>>>point that some of that country’s richest Jews are wearing
>>>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>>>
>>>>In general, however, this “Holocaust”-based extortion racket
>>>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their
>>>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of
>>>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that
>>>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn’t do enough to
>>>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews’ brazenness
>>>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>>>
>>>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large
>>>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting
>>>>away with it because with their media control they have been able
>>>>to distort the general public’s whole perception of what happened
>>>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray
>>>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as
>>>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on
>>>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example,
>>>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army
>>>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to
>>>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans
>>>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>>>of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they
>>>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war?
>>>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg
>>>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably
>>>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the
>>>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why
>>>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It’s something the
>>>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered
>>>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>>>in 1940.
>>>>
>>>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and
>>>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the
>>>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which
>>>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The
>>>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets
>>>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly
>>>>along the River Bug.
>>>>
>>>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared
>>>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany’s
>>>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union,
>>>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in
>>>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass
>>>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the
>>>>German grab for Polish territory — much of which, of course,
>>>>actually was historically German territory — and nothing was
>>>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>>>
>>>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish
>>>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as
>>>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in
>>>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing
>>>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of
>>>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and
>>>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933
>>>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where
>>>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the
>>>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to
>>>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of
>>>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the
>>>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany
>>>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>>>
>>>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France.
>>>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could
>>>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however,
>>>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did
>>>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to
>>>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his
>>>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the
>>>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined
>>>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though
>>>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>>>
>>>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other
>>>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin
>>>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in
>>>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed
>>>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through
>>>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into
>>>>Russia.
>>>>
>>>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near
>>>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from
>>>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners
>>>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly
>>>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local
>>>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as
>>>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is
>>>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had
>>>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917,
>>>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been
>>>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American
>>>>FBI.
>>>>
>>>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and
>>>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each
>>>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the
>>>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than
>>>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other
>>>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans
>>>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in
>>>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various
>>>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in
>>>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest.
>>>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to
>>>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to
>>>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from
>>>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The
>>>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to
>>>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most
>>>>of them did.
>>>>
>>>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish
>>>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and
>>>>business leaders and intellectuals — scientists, writers, poets
>>>>– who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet
>>>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had
>>>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 — including nearly
>>>>half of the entire Polish officer’s corps, the half that had had
>>>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time — and put
>>>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk,
>>>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one
>>>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>>>
>>>>Rounding up a country’s leaders and killing them was standard
>>>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were
>>>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As
>>>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human
>>>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the
>>>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better
>>>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that
>>>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful
>>>>losers and ne’er-do-wells who made up the natural communist
>>>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them
>>>>easier to govern. That’s what the Marxists had done in Russia,
>>>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had
>>>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because
>>>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the
>>>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the
>>>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at
>>>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the
>>>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish
>>>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish
>>>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and
>>>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be
>>>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill
>>>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken
>>>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off
>>>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been
>>>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn
>>>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were
>>>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the
>>>>killings.
>>>>
>>>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison
>>>>trucks known as “black ravens.” They were pulled from the trucks
>>>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands
>>>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit.
>>>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol
>>>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had
>>>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what
>>>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were
>>>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed,
>>>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered
>>>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of
>>>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and
>>>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers
>>>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was
>>>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>>>
>>>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the
>>>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest
>>>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed;
>>>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not
>>>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies
>>>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the
>>>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal
>>>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same
>>>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from
>>>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940,
>>>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported
>>>>back to their governments.
>>>>
>>>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American
>>>>governments horrified to discover that their “gallant Soviet
>>>>ally,” as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was
>>>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to
>>>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide
>>>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union
>>>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>>>
>>>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who
>>>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the
>>>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had
>>>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by
>>>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York
>>>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles!
>>>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and
>>>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other
>>>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of
>>>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the
>>>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and
>>>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>>>
>>>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in
>>>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not
>>>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free
>>>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill
>>>>understood this. But the American and British people didn’t
>>>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish
>>>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have
>>>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been
>>>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have
>>>>decided.
>>>>
>>>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years
>>>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with
>>>>the “Holocaust” story which was making so much money for the
>>>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is
>>>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into
>>>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the
>>>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies
>>>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is
>>>>J.K. Zawodny’s Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre
>>>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of
>>>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It
>>>>still might undermine the Jews’ “Holocaust” racket.
>>>>
>>>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western
>>>>world didn’t know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The
>>>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from
>>>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the
>>>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to
>>>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis,
>>>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation.
>>>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx,
>>>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars
>>>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who
>>>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with
>>>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and
>>>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland,
>>>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>>>feeling.
>>>>
>>>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn’t surprising. What is
>>>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have
>>>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they
>>>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have
>>>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them.
>>>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart,
>>>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media
>>>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media.
>>>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and
>>>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews
>>>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold
>>>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the
>>>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>>>
>>>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To
>>>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: [email protected]
>>>>Write “subscribe” as the subject of your message.
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>American Renaissance
>>>>http://www.amren.com
>>>>
>>>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>
>>>>Euro-American Students Union
>>>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>>>
>>>>Katja Lane’s Fourteen Word Press
>>>>http://www.14words.com
>>>>
>>>>National Alliance
>>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>>>
>>>>Stormfront
>>>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>>>
>>>>Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library
>>>>http://www.ddc.net/yggFrom [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:01:27 EST 1999
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>Dear People from Muslim World:
>Immigration To Canada
> To obtain a Canadian Visa for:
> (1) Permanent Residence
> (2) Sponsorship
> (3) Student Visa
> (4) Business Programs and InvestmentThis smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!By the way, since when is the appellation “attorney at law” legal in
Canada??From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:01:29 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Fradulent “Nazi-Hunter” Exposed
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>Is this any less fraudulent than the Neil Sher case in the USA???
>Isn’t this the same JEW charged with perjury in connection with the
>Demjanjuk case???>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:29:13 GMT, Stefan Lemieszewski
>wrote: >>The following forwarded CP article is posted at the Ukrainian Archive
>>website under the caption “Neal Sher should be sent packing” at:>>www.ukar.org
>>Neal Sher headed the U.S. Office of Special Investigations (OSI) of the
>>U.S. Department of Justice for many years. Recently, he was hired as a
>>consultant by Anne McLellan, the Canadian Justice Minister.
>>
>>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>>—————————————————————————————-
>>
>>April 28, 1998
>>
>>U.S. Nazi hunter admits he’s under investigation for perjury
>>
>>OTTAWA (CP) — A top Nazi hunter hired to help Canada pursue suspected
>>war criminals is
>>under investigation for perjury by the Justice Department in the United
>>States.
>>
>> Neal Sher, a Washington lawyer, told the Commons justice committee
>>Wednesday that he
>>is being investigated by the Office of Professional Responsibility, a
>>unit of the U.S. Justice Department that handles complaints about
>>attorneys.
>>
>> The allegations date back to 1990 when Sher was director of the
>>U.S. Office of Special Investigations, which is responsible for hunting
>>Nazi war criminals in the United States.
>>
>> The office has been accused of withholding evidence that might have
>>been helpful to the case of Andrija Artukovic, a California resident who
>>was extradited to Yugoslavia for war crimes during the Second World
>>War. Sher said he has been assured that the allegations against him are
>>groundless, but no official verdict has been rendered.
>>
>> John Sims, assistant deputy attorney general, said he was not aware
>>of the investigation when he hired Sher as a consultant to help the
>>federal government track down war criminals.
>>
>> Sims said he found out about it a couple of days ago from a
>>colleague in his department. He said he has not mentioned the fact to
>>Solicitor General Andy Scott.
>>
>> Sher was summoned to appear before the committee at the request of
>>members who say they have been hearing concerns about his role and
>>background.
>>
>> Conservative MP Peter MacKay said Sher should be dismissed from his
>>job advising the federal Justice Department.
>>
>> “It’s a little shocking to think that somebody that is being relied
>>on heavily by the Canadian government is himself under investigation for
>>potential — and I key on the word potential — frauds perpetrated on the
>>court,” said McKay, a former Crown attorney.
>>
>> “It comes as a bit of a disappointment that the Canadian government
>>didn’t do their research first and have that knowledge themselves. I
>>think he should be paid for his advice and sent packing.”
>>
>> Reform MP Jack Ramsay said he was surprised at Sher’s statement
>>that allegations against him are unfounded.
>>
>> “What I found interesting is that investigation is not over and yet
>>he knows the results of it at least in part.”
>>
>> Sims said Sher is working for the Justice Department two or three
>>days a month and gets paid $200 US per hour. He said Sher’s advice has
>>been helpful.
>>
>> Much of the Sher’s testimony before the committee dealt with his
>>role in the extradition from the United States of John Demjanjuk, who
>>was accused of being a Nazi death camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.
>>
>> Demjanjuk was eventually acquitted of war-crimes charges in Israel
>>and returned to Ohio.
>>
>> Sher conceded there were errors in the handling of the case. The
>>Canadian Jewish Conference issued a statement Wednesday strongly
>>endorsing Sher’s engagement as a consultant.
>>
>> “Examining the totality of Mr. Sher’s career at the Office of
>>Special Investigations and after reveals a record of outstanding success
>>and energy in bringing alleged Nazi war criminals to the bar of
>>justice,” the statement said.
>>
>
>On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:42:33 -0500, “Saabirah”
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Ibrahim Dughlas-Gani wrote in message …
>>>
>>>brother Ali, you should stop posting Neo-Nazi literature to usenet. As a
>>>Muslim, you should have nothing to do with evil right wing scum. Zionism
>>>itself may be evil, but Nazism and it’s revived offspring are even worse.
>>>
>>Agreed.
>>
>>waSalaam
>>
>>Saabirah
>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:01:50 EST 1999
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[email protected] wrote:>In soc.culture.iraq [email protected] wrote:
>> On 9 Jan 1999 02:01:13 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Dear People from Muslim World:
>>>Immigration To Canada
>>> To obtain a Canadian Visa for:
>>> (1) Permanent Residence
>>> (2) Sponsorship
>>> (3) Student Visa
>>> (4) Business Programs and Investment
>
>> This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
>> criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!
>
>> Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
>> to emigrate to canada.
>
>> Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
>> is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!
>
>
>> By the way, since when is the appellation “attorney at law” legal in
>> Canada??
>
> Geez, mail sent from address in Ukraine. Exactly from Dnepropetrovsk.
>They are Canadians like I’m American or African.Probably trying to infiltrate some more JEW members of KGB into
Canada, so they can live off stupid Canadian taxpayers for years!!!From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:05:36 EST 1999
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Subject: NIZKOR /NAZIKOR SWINDLES EVEN JEWS!!!
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>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>>
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avengerwrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>>
>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>
>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>
>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is
>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>> telephone # 204-983-1829
>>
>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected], or
>>>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>
>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>
>> They are waiting for your complaints
>>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> > letters?
>>
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith’s butt.
>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>Canadian dollars.
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>
>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>
>>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>
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>>
>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>Canada!!!
>>
>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>
>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>
>>
>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return…. and see if it comes
>>>>from anthing called “Nizkor,” or claims that it would… won’t that be
>>>>fun, Bill? If you don’t get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>you’ve got me, eh?
>>
>>>>Please print this form and send to:
>>>>The Nizkor Project
>>>>c/o
>>>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>>>xxxxxx Street
>>>>Toronto, Ontario
>>
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>>
>>>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
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>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:05:37 EST 1999
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>On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:23:35 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong
>>wrote:>>>The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>>non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?>>>A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>>ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.>>>The Jews’ physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>>repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>>naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>>why Jews are disliked.
>
>>>In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>>and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>>distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>>and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>>Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>>
>>>Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>>with them.
>>>
>>>The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>>to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>>aid.
>>>
>>>The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>>more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>>(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>>of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>>the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>>world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>>to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>>all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>>congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>>billion/year of US taxpayers’ money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>>foreign aid.
>>>
>>>The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>>more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>>communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>>strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>>
>>>The Jews stole the Palestinians’ homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>>Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>>the Jews.
>>>
>>>In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the “anti-semitism” they are
>>>always complaining about.From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:05:53 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: Jews reopen trade in white slaves
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.baltics:17564 soc.culture.russian:104532 soc.culture.polish:136676 soc.culture.malaysia:233292 soc.culture.palestine:57912Your article is but one of many recently revealing JEW perfidy!!!
On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
wrote:
>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>> people.
>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>> irgun43>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>> illegaly.>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>> in Israel.
>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 03:15:27 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>***************************
>Traffickers’ New Cargo:
>Naive Slavic Women
>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>***************************>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>tops of tables.
>
>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>eyes.
>
>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>you and bring you back.”
>
>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>the robust global economy.
>
>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>
>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>into Western Europe alone.
>
>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>
>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>really happen at all.”
>
>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>
>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>
>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>countries and, usually, false documents.
>
>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>wages they could never imagine at home.
>
>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>
>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>are ubiquitous.
>
>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>
>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>
>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>the violence that awaits them.
>
>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>captors.
>
>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>
>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>
>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>average price of just under $1,000.
>
>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
> time.”
>
>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>very light.”
>
>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>against the sale of human beings.
>
>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>
>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>
>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>
>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>cell phone.
>
>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>Soviet Union.
>
>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>
>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>is all we need.”
>
>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>routine part of her job.
>
>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>
>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>
>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>
>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>become a matter of survival.
>
>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>
>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>find to save themselves.
>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>are go to men. So they leave.”
>
>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>
>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>
>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>
>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>arrested.”
>
>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>
>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>
>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>employed illegally there now.
>
>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>
>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>
>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>which had enslaved them.”
>
>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>
>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>
>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>now.”
>
>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>
>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>
>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>factory for no wages?”
>
>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>
>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>I could ever get at home.”
>
>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>
>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>
>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>
>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>
>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>
>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>
>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>ready to do anything for money.”
>
>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>
>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>laughed heartily.
>
>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>
>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>
>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>documents are taken to prison.
>
>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>
>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>did nothing to hide their identities.
>
>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>protection program.
>
>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>
>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>
>
>———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———-
>http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your OwnFrom [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:06:12 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.russian:104584 soc.culture.polish:136725 soc.culture.german:94076 soc.culture.malaysia:233547 soc.culture.palestine:57941On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:37:18 +0100, mike muth
wanted
to write:On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 01:52:04 GMT, Ed Kadach
wrote:
Subject: Re: Jew Lust for Lesbianism/FaggotsNewsgroups: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.polish,
soc.culture.palestine
References: 1In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!
>Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal.If his actions are illegal, why don’t the authorities send him to
jail??>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action. However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
wrote: >All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.>In article <[email protected]>, Israel Schiff
>writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: “For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;”
>>Well, here’s another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: “The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, “Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible’s impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, “You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live” (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost, and therefore lesbianism is not
>>prohibited in the Bible.
>>
>>My argument ostensibly can be countered by a more comprehensive biblical
>>injunction. The very first commandment, given to Adam and repeated to Noah,
>>is “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth” (Genesis 1:28 and Genesis
>>9:1,7). The descendants of Noah–the entire human race–are duty-bound to
>>fulfill this commandment. But the truth is that we have not only filled the
>>earth, we have over-filled it. This does not mean, however, that the
>>commandment should be thought of as no longer in force–especially among
>>Jews, who have lost a third of their members in our lifetime. I recall an
>>incident during a premarital interview from the early years of my rabbinate.
>>The starry-eyed bride declared her noble intention to have twelve children
>>to compensate for the tragic loss of six million killed in the Holocaust. I
>>gasped, “Must you do it all by yourself?”
>>
>>I have since come to regret my flippant reply. This couple regarded their
>>forthcoming marriage as a sacrament not just between themselves, but with
>>the >Jewish people. The problem has worsened for American Jews. Because
>>intermarriage is rife and the Jewish birth rate is low, American Jewry, once
>>at zero population growth, has dipped into the minus column. Were it not for
>>a steady stream of converts, the extinction of American Jewry would be even
>>more imminent. For us the divine command, “Be fruitful and multiply” is
>>truly in force.
>>
>>To Jewish homosexuals I offer an unoriginal solution. As compensation for
>>your loss of seed, adopt children. Although adoption was practiced in the
>>ancient world (as attested in Babylonian law), there is no Biblical
>>procedure or institution of adoption. As a result the institution of
>>adoption is absent from rabbinic jurisprudence. Yet there are isolated cases
>>of a kind of pseudo-adoption in the Bible. For example, Abraham, long
>>childless, complains to God that Eliezer of Damascus, his steward, will
>>inherit him (Genesis 15:2). And barren Rachel beseeches her husband Jacob,
>>”Here is my maid Bilhah–go into her that she may bear on my knees and that
>>through her I too may have children” (Genesis 30:3). Adoption is certainly a
>>possibility today.
>>
>>Lesbian couples have an additional advantage. Not only do they not violate
>>biblical law, but through artificial insemination each can become the
>>natural mother of her children.
>>
>>Thus from the Bible we can infer the following: Lesbians, presumably half of
>>the world’s homosexual population, are not mentioned. More than ninety-nine
>>percent of the gays, namely non-Jews, are not addressed. This leaves the
>>small number of male Jewish gays subject to this >prohibition. If they are
>>biologically or psychologically incapable of procreation, adoption provides
>>a solution. I hope the Eternal, in love and compassion, will then reckon
>>their spilled seed as producing fruit. Jacob Milgrom.” (Bible Review, a
>>publication of the Biblical Archeology Society 3000 Connecticut Avenue NW,
>>Suite 300, Washington DC 20008, 202 387 8888From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:07:39 EST 1999
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Subject: BEWARE Canadian CGA’s/bookkeepers!!!
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>wrote:
>>On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:31:56 -0400, Vernon Paige
>>wrote:
>>>[email protected] wrote:>>>> I was referring to published documents, at public hearings, regarding
>>>> the 52 UNQUALIFIED BOOKKEEPERS, ADMITTED INTO CGA ALBERTA AS CGA’S,
>>>> WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE ANY EXAMS, ANY COURSES, ANY UPGRADING – the
>>>> only requirement was that they sign an affidavit that they earned
>>>> $25,000.– doing bookkeeping!!!>>>You can quibble
>>>if you want about whether 52 people should have been required to provide
>>>more evidence of competency,
>>
>>
>>On the contrary, any so-called professional group should not only be
>>maintaining its standards, but should in general be upgrading them!!!
>>
>>
>>CGA Canada, which is a BOOKKEEPING group claiming to be accountants,
>>in both B.C. and Alberta freely admitted not only unqualified people,
>>but even admitted convicted criminals!!!
>>
>>
>>>YOU say they were “unqualified bookkeepers”. You don’t seem to make any
>>>distinction among bookkeepers, accountans and auditors.
>>
>>At the public hearings held to determine whethere Alberta CGA’s were
>>in fact qualified to do public audits, such as for companies required
>>to have audits for securities and related laws, the CA’s, and CMA’s,
>>as well as concerned members of the public all testified against CGA
>>Alberta.
>>
>>In fact, Prof. Boritz, who established the course of instruction for
>>CGA Canada also testified that CGA’s in Alberta and generally, were
>>unqualified because of defects in their course of instruction, to do
>>public audits!!!
>> You don’t
>>>present any evidence they were “unqualified” ANYTHING, only that they
>>>didn’t complete the courses of instruction that were at that time the
>>>standard.
>>
>>In fact the unqualified bookkeepers in both Alberta and B.C. were not
>>even required to have ANY educational qualification whatsoever, then,
>>or later!!!
>>
>>
>>>> Since this ng relates to accounting, the other trades have no
>>>> relevance to readers.
>>
>>
>>>anonymously broadcasting unjustified attacks against individuals and
>>>organizations who may have (probably have?) no connection with your
>>>problem.
>>
>>The names and dates of the prominent CGA’s are identified, and if you
>>can read, all you need do to verify the contents, is search and access
>>the news media themselves directly, as so many others have now done.
>>
>>I am not going to assist you in your laziness, whether you are a
>>bookkeeping student or not.
>>
>>
>>>> That was not the topic of the article, which I will re-insert for you
>>>> to re-read. It relates to ACCOUNTANTS, in particular the problems with
>>>> Canadian CGA’s, whom I denigrate as unqualified bookkeepers, since
>>>> they have such in their membership!!!
>>
>>
>>>> I am discussing the problem, openly and publicly, and have even
>>>> provided you with full details.
>>
>>I am by profession an International Management Consultant, with
>>credentials from countries in Europe, North America and S.E.Asia.From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:07:40 EST 1999
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>Is this any less fraudulent than the Neil Sher case in the USA???
>Isn’t this the same JEW charged with perjury in connection with the
>Demjanjuk case???>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:29:13 GMT, Stefan Lemieszewski
>wrote: >>The following forwarded CP article is posted at the Ukrainian Archive
>>website under the caption “Neal Sher should be sent packing” at:>>www.ukar.org
>>Neal Sher headed the U.S. Office of Special Investigations (OSI) of the
>>U.S. Department of Justice for many years. Recently, he was hired as a
>>consultant by Anne McLellan, the Canadian Justice Minister.
>>
>>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>>—————————————————————————————-
>>
>>April 28, 1998
>>
>>U.S. Nazi hunter admits he’s under investigation for perjury
>>
>>OTTAWA (CP) — A top Nazi hunter hired to help Canada pursue suspected
>>war criminals is
>>under investigation for perjury by the Justice Department in the United
>>States.
>>
>> Neal Sher, a Washington lawyer, told the Commons justice committee
>>Wednesday that he
>>is being investigated by the Office of Professional Responsibility, a
>>unit of the U.S. Justice Department that handles complaints about
>>attorneys.
>>
>> The allegations date back to 1990 when Sher was director of the
>>U.S. Office of Special Investigations, which is responsible for hunting
>>Nazi war criminals in the United States.
>>
>> The office has been accused of withholding evidence that might have
>>been helpful to the case of Andrija Artukovic, a California resident who
>>was extradited to Yugoslavia for war crimes during the Second World
>>War. Sher said he has been assured that the allegations against him are
>>groundless, but no official verdict has been rendered.
>>
>> John Sims, assistant deputy attorney general, said he was not aware
>>of the investigation when he hired Sher as a consultant to help the
>>federal government track down war criminals.
>>
>> Sims said he found out about it a couple of days ago from a
>>colleague in his department. He said he has not mentioned the fact to
>>Solicitor General Andy Scott.
>>
>> Sher was summoned to appear before the committee at the request of
>>members who say they have been hearing concerns about his role and
>>background.
>>
>> Conservative MP Peter MacKay said Sher should be dismissed from his
>>job advising the federal Justice Department.
>>
>> “It’s a little shocking to think that somebody that is being relied
>>on heavily by the Canadian government is himself under investigation for
>>potential — and I key on the word potential — frauds perpetrated on the
>>court,” said McKay, a former Crown attorney.
>>
>> “It comes as a bit of a disappointment that the Canadian government
>>didn’t do their research first and have that knowledge themselves. I
>>think he should be paid for his advice and sent packing.”
>>
>> Reform MP Jack Ramsay said he was surprised at Sher’s statement
>>that allegations against him are unfounded.
>>
>> “What I found interesting is that investigation is not over and yet
>>he knows the results of it at least in part.”
>>
>> Sims said Sher is working for the Justice Department two or three
>>days a month and gets paid $200 US per hour. He said Sher’s advice has
>>been helpful.
>>
>> Much of the Sher’s testimony before the committee dealt with his
>>role in the extradition from the United States of John Demjanjuk, who
>>was accused of being a Nazi death camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.
>>
>> Demjanjuk was eventually acquitted of war-crimes charges in Israel
>>and returned to Ohio.
>>
>> Sher conceded there were errors in the handling of the case. The
>>Canadian Jewish Conference issued a statement Wednesday strongly
>>endorsing Sher’s engagement as a consultant.
>>
>> “Examining the totality of Mr. Sher’s career at the Office of
>>Special Investigations and after reveals a record of outstanding success
>>and energy in bringing alleged Nazi war criminals to the bar of
>>justice,” the statement said.
>>
>
>On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:42:33 -0500, “Saabirah”
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Ibrahim Dughlas-Gani wrote in message …
>>>
>>>brother Ali, you should stop posting Neo-Nazi literature to usenet. As a
>>>Muslim, you should have nothing to do with evil right wing scum. Zionism
>>>itself may be evil, but Nazism and it’s revived offspring are even worse.
>>>
>>Agreed.
>>
>>waSalaam
>>
>>Saabirah
>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:07:57 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.palestine:58171 soc.culture.lebanon:69275 soc.culture.russian:104998 soc.culture.polish:137154 soc.culture.malaysia:234536On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 17:33:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:01:53 -0400, Basil Keilani
>wrote: >> Often, when one deals with the right Israelis and Jews, rather
>>than admit injustices, they engage in insults and try to intimidate the
>>other side. They believe they can intimidate the other side, by claiming
>>they are anti-Semitic. However, it does not work, the Berlin wall of
>>Israeli bigotry will fall along with their allies. We say no to Zionist
>>racism vis-a-vis Gentiles and Secular Jews. Actually, Zionism has been
>>one of the greatest enemies towards the name of Jews and Judaism.
>>So it is anti-Semitic, for a kind-hearted, honest Jew who believes
>>in the One God.——–Basil
>>
>>Article by Dr Alfred Lilienthal
>>
>> “Why did the Jews, through, their own leaders, cooperate with the
>>Nazis in their own destruction?”; Why did the Jews abandon their
>>apparently successful economic boycott of pre-WWII Germany?”; and, “Why
>>did millions of Jews go to their deaths like lambs to the slaughter?”
>> These were just some of the major queries raised by Jewish
>>intellectuals and historians like Ben Hecht and, especially, Hannah
>>Arendt. Arendt called the Zionist complicity in the tragedy one of the
>>”darkest pages” in the history of their race. Many found the questions
>>raised by Arendt and Hecht too painful to face directly.
>> Pius XII (POPE), now dead, became a convenient target for revenge
>>and distraction from the issue of Zionist complicity raised by the
>>dissidents. Both Zionists and non-Jews began accusing Pius XII of
>>responsibility for the death of the Jews by his called “silence” regarding
>>mass exterminations.
>> The Christian-bashers regularly portrayed Pius XII, in plays,
>>articles, books, movies and television documentaries, as a tool of the
>>capitalists, an uncaring bureaucrat, and a heartless cleric. Nothing
>>could have been further from the truth, but these slanders continue until
>>the present day.
>>
>>Dr. Alfred Lilienthal, “The Truth at last about Pope Pius and the
>>Holocaust”, Washington Report, May/June 1998, p.30
>>
>>
>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:08:04 EST 1999
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wrote:
>[email protected] wrote in message <[email protected]>…
>>>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:08:57 GMT, [email protected]
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:31:56 -0400, Vernon Paige
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>[email protected] wrote:>>>>>> I was referring to published documents, at public hearings, regarding
>>>>>> the 52 UNQUALIFIED BOOKKEEPERS, ADMITTED INTO CGA ALBERTA AS CGA’S,
>>>>>> WITHOUT HAVING TO TAKE ANY EXAMS, ANY COURSES, ANY UPGRADING – the>Folks, for those of you who perhaps haven’t seen this post before (it seems
>to get reposted on a regular basis), this is a troll.As the attached DETAILS confirm, this is actual fact. Perhaps YOu are
one of the unqualified bookkeepers, called a CGA??Subject: BEWARE OF CGA CANADA!!!
Attention of: FENG YIFEN,
and others concerned about criminals in CGA Canada!!!Further to previous news reports, the Past President of CGA Alberta,
William L. Mearns, has been sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison on his
conviction for embezzling from the County of Red Deer, Alberta.PAST PRESIDENT CGA – CRIMINAL TRIAL – GETS 3 1/2 YEARS
IMPRISONMENT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WARNING RE CGA CANADAOF CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS, ACCOUNTANTS, AND THE
GENERAL PUBLICCGA’S IN CANADA – WHAT’S WRONG WITH THEM?
Over the past year, national media have been filling the news with
stories of major scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL
ACCOUNTANTS (CGA’S) in Canada.In Alberta, the media have had a field day for the past year,
reporting on the fact that a PAST PRESIDENT of CGA Alberta, an FCGA
and CGA, was under investigation, and eventually charged , and
convicted, with 14 serious criminal charges,The complaints were filed by the Hongkong Bank to the
RCMPCOMMERCIAL CRIME DIVISION.The HK Bank was complaining about William Mearns,who had been for 12
years the Controller/Treasurer of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.MEARNS WAS CHARGED WITH 14 SERIOUS CRIMINAL CHARGES, as reported
by CFRN-TV, the Edmonton Sun, and Red Deer Advocate. Among the charges
are 5 charges of uttering forged documents, another 5 charges of
making a false document, 2 more charges of forgery, one more charge of
fraud, and one of theft over $5,000.00.MORE THAN ONE MILLION DOLLARS is reported to be missing.
At his next Court appearance on 4th October 1996, the third
adjournment requested by Mearns, he was convicted, and sentenced to 3
1/2 years in prison.At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or EVEN
TO MEMBERS OF CGA ALBERTA, MEARNS WAS ALLOWED TO SECRETLY RESIGN
BOTH HIS CGA AND FCGA designations. This seems to be a first for
Canada, where an FCGA surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious
designation. In the past year Mearns and one of his businesses have
both gone bankrupt.Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in
1987-1988, where he was involved with THE ADMISSSION TO CGA ALBERTA OF
UNQUALIFIED BOOKKEEPERS, WHO WERE GIVEN THE CGA DESIGNATION, WITHOUT
ANY REQUIREMENT FOR EDUCATION,QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, NO EXAMS or
even a requirement for upgrading courses to bring them up to an
acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course benefitted financially,
>from the huge increase in dues and fees from these new members.The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner
headlines regarding ROMAN EVANCIC, another FCGA, who had got himself
SHOT!!! This was apparently in connection with some business partner
and a collections problem. The news reported that the assailant said,
as he shot Evancic:” I’m from your stock brokers. I understand you
ripped him off.” (Vancouver Sun – 11 January 1996).And don’t forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey, BC
CGA convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow
parishioners of his church.Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason
that the Maritime Provinces have successfully maintained that CGA’s in
those provinces ARE NOT QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it
have something to do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from
Alberta could move to the Maritimes, and even though unqualified,
could still call himself a CGA there?As a result of all the bad publicity regarding problem CGA’s in
Canada, CGA Canada is now desperately trying to recruit new members
>from the ignorant in CHINA and the Caribbean,Students of accounting in HK, CHINA and the Caribbean, who must pay
many tens of thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do
you feel about these “gwaliau” who got the CGA for FREE?Those of you concerned about credibility in the accounting profession
are invited to respond.>Kevin Drayson
>[email protected]From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:08:28 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: BEWARE Canadian CGA’s/bookkeepers!!!
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wrote: >
>[email protected] wrote in message <[email protected]>…>>As the attached DETAILS confirm, this is actual fact. Perhaps YOu are
>>one of the unqualified bookkeepers, called a CGA??>>Subject: BEWARE OF CGA CANADA!!!
>>
>>Attention of: FENG YIFEN,
>>and others concerned about criminals in CGA Canada!!!
>>
>>
>>Further to previous news reports, the Past President of CGA Alberta,
>>William L. Mearns, has been sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison on his
>>conviction for embezzling from the County of Red Deer, Alberta.
>>
>>PAST PRESIDENT CGA – CRIMINAL TRIAL – GETS 3 1/2 YEARS
>>IMPRISONMENT
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>
>
>
>>Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in
>>1987-1988, where he was involved with THE ADMISSSION TO CGA ALBERTA OF
>>UNQUALIFIED BOOKKEEPERS, WHO WERE GIVEN THE CGA DESIGNATION, WITHOUT
>>ANY REQUIREMENT FOR EDUCATION,QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, NO EXAMS or
>>even a requirement for upgrading courses to bring them up to an
>>acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course benefitted financially,
>>from the huge increase in dues and fees from these new members.
>>
>
>
>
>
>>have something to do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from
>>Alberta could move to the Maritimes, and even though unqualified,
>>could still call himself a CGA there?
>>
>>As a result of all the bad publicity regarding problem CGA’s in
>>Canada, CGA Canada is now desperately trying to recruit new members
>>from the ignorant in CHINA and the Caribbean,
>>
>>
>>
>>Students of accounting in HK, CHINA and the Caribbean, who must pay
>>many tens of thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do
>>you feel about these “gwaliau” who got the CGA for FREE?
>>
>>Those of you concerned about credibility in the accounting profession
>>are invited to respond.
>>
>
>
>*Sigh*. I’m going to ignore my own advice, and reply.
>
>First of all, I am a CGA student, living in the Maritimes.>The CGA association, like many other organisations, has awarded membership
>to those they believed to have earned the qualifications, based on education
>and/ or experience.In Alberta, the only requirement for the unqualified bookkeepers, to
obtain the CGA deisgnation was an affidavit stating that they earned
$25,000 the previous year doing bookkeeping!!!There was no requirement for any upgrading courses, exams, or other
tests of competency!!!> If these individuals, as you claim, received their
>designations unjustly, then I’d like to see reference to the actual
>documents that support that claim.The Alberta government allowed this, by passing Bill 51 in 1988.
>Quoted text, or supposedly quoted text,
>on the internet, proves nothing. I can easily whip something scandalous up
>about *any* group in several minutes. Just because I’ve posted it to a
>newsgroup doesn’t make it factual. Back up your claims with references that
>others can investigate at their leisure.>That said, I fail to see the connection between the criminal activities of a
>few individuals in an organization, and your original claim. There are bad
>apples in any group. The chaps you mentioned (assuming they exist) are
>certainly bad apples, but I don’t see a link between their deeds, and your
>claim regarding CGA qualifications in Alberta. By your logic, the fact that
>the CFO of Bre-X was a CA must make the CICA even more corrupt and rotten
>than the CGA’s!When a national professional organisation permits unqualified persons
to represent themselves as qualified, the public, and even those
members who ARE qualified have good reason for concern!!!>As for the cost, it’s nearly as expensive as you claim. Assuming you enter
>the program with absolutely no transferable credits (not a likely scenario),
>you’re looking at about $7,000- $8,000 Can, over 6 years. University grads
>can likely get through in two years, for about $3,000.>Kevin Drayson, CGA student and proud of it, thankyou very much!
From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:08:29 EST 1999
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Subject: Why Jews Are Hated by Arabs
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>I guess the air in SFU makes all the Soviet Jews there braindead.
>Read the following, and perhaps you may learn something about history.
>Copied from old articles in Deja News refernces.
>Isn’t the article below, merely a continuation of the murders
>perpetrated formerly by two of the PM’s of Israel, Yitzhak Shamir and
>his STERN GANG, and then Menachem begin and his IRGUN???>In other words, murders of innocent civilians is in the old JEW
>tradition???
>
>
>On Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:02:08 GMT, [email protected] (Jason Arron
>Black) wrote:
>
>>Date: 7 Mar 1998 08:43:08 -0000
>
>>Qana Massacre
>>by Robert Fisk (London’s The Independent)
>>
>>QANA, SOUTHERN LEBANON — It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and
>>Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The
>>Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their
>>hands or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disemboweled. There
>>were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The
>>Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United
>>Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world’s
>>protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana
>>were wrong.
>
>>In front of a burning building of the UN’s Fijian battalion
>>headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a
>>gray-haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked
>>the corpse back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and
>>crying the same words over and over: “My father, my father.” A
>>Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying
>>a word, held aloft the body of a headless child.
>
>>The Israelis have just told us they’ll stop shelling the area, a
>>UN soldier said, shaking with anger. “Are we supposed to thank
>>them?” In the remains of a burning building — the conference
>>room of the Fijian UN headquarters — a pile of corpses was
>>burning. The roof had crashed in flames onto their bodies,
>>cremating them in front of my eyes. When I walked towards them,
>>I slipped on a human hand …
>
>>Israel’s slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive
>>– 206 by last night — has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that
>>not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the
>>ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the
>>day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile
>>four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had
>>slaughtered a family of 12 — the youngest was a four- day-old
>>baby — when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their
>>home.
>
>>Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250
>>meters from a UN convoy on which I was traveling, blasting a
>>house 30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Traveling back to
>>Beirut to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent
>>last night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian
>>cars on the river bridge north of Sidon.
>
>>Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and
>>Chatila massacre of Palestinians by Israel’s militia allies in
>>1982 doomed Israel’s 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained
>>again by the bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill
>>town where the Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine.
>
>>The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams from
>>the shell-smashed UN compound in which the Shiite Muslims from
>>the hill villages of southern Lebanon — who had heeded Israel’s
>>order to leave their homes — had pathetically sought shelter.
>>Fijian and French soldiers heaved another group of dead — they
>>lay with their arms tightly wrapped around each other — into
>>blankets.
>
>>A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag
>>in which he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people’s arms.
>
>>And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst
>>into the compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre
>>and began to pull the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their
>>mothers and sons and daughters and to shriek Allahu Akbar (God is
>>Great”) and to threaten the UN troops.
>
>>We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but
>>Westerners, Israel’s allies, an object of hatred and venom. One
>>bearded man with fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with
>>fury. “You are Americans,” he screamed at us. “Americans are
>>dogs”. You did this. Americans are dogs.”
>
>>President Bill Clinton has allied himself with Israel in its war
>>against “terrorism,” and the Lebanese, in their grief, had not
>>forgotten this. Israel’s official expression of sorrow was
>>rubbing salt in their wounds. “I would like to be made into a
>>bomb and blow myself up amid the Israelis,” one old man said.
>
>>As for the Hizbollah, which has repeatedly promised that Israelis
>>will pay for their killing of Lebanese civilians, its revenge
>>cannot be long in coming. Operation Grapes of Wrath may then turn
>>out to be all too aptly named.
>
>>Herve de Charette’s face was as white as death. The French
>>Foreign Minister, neatly clad in blue suit and tie, had gingerly
>>walked through the scene of last week’s massacre at the UN’s
>>compound, nodding diplomatically as the UN’s Fijian commander
>>described the 12 minutes in which Israeli shells slaughtered up
>>to 120 refugees, the sliced-up corpses that his soldiers were
>>forced to pick up, the difficulty in identifying parts of the
>>children who had been torn to pieces. Mr. de Charette listened
>>with distaste. But then he was confronted by a survivor.
>
>>Fawzaya Zrir, a small, frail woman in a scarf, simply walked up
>>to the French Foreign Minister and began talking to him with an
>>odd mixture of affection and anger. “For us, France is our mother
>>and God is our father,” she said in a flight of rhetoric that
>>might have been written by the Quai d’Orsay public relations men,
>>who beamed happily at this fortunate encounter.
>
>>Then things began to go wrong. “We have lived through hell,” Mrs.
>>Zrir continued. “The people were chopped into pieces by the
>>Israeli bombs. They bleed, these people. You should have seen the
>>heads.”
>
>>At the French foreign minister’s right, a Lebanese softly
>>translated the woman’s dreadful words. The PR men began to look
>>uneasy. “We have lived here 40 years and now we are treated like
>>animals,” the woman cried. “Do you know what the dogs did at
>>night after the killings? They were hungry and I saw them in the
>>ruins eating fingers and pieces of our people.”
>
>>Mr. de Charette stared at her as if he had seen a ghost. This had
>>clearly not been part of the programme, a schedule that was
>>supposed to have whisked the foreign minister from a light lunch
>>at UN headquarters in Naqqoura to a photo-opportunity on the roof
>>of the wrecked UN battalion HQ, a three-minutes press conference
>>to give the impression of openness and a swift drive back to the
>>coast and a helicopter to Beirut — everything, in fact, that
>>would enhance France’s much-trumpeted love for Lebanon. Reality
>>had very definitely not been part of the programme.
>
>>A UN soldier was quite blunt about it. This place is going to be
>>turned into one of those awful pilgrimage sites for the great and
>>the good,” he muttered. [An accurate predication: the site of
>>this Israeli massacre has become the equivalent of an Arab
>>Holocaust Museum.] “Boutros-Ghali sent his emissaries today
>>to express their horror. But they’ll do no more than they did
>>after Srebrenica. They’ll tut-tut and shrug it off. They won’t
>>even have the guts to condemn Israel even now — for this
>>wickedness.”
>
>>The problem is that neither America nor Europe is going to
>>condemn a country which pounded refugees of Qana with 155mm
>>shells for 12 minutes; and such condemnation is about the only
>>palliative that the Lebanese might accept for the moment.
>
>>And you can see their point. On the coast road back to Beirut
>>last night there were burning cars, civilians deliberately
>>targeted by Israeli warships north of Sidon, three of whom had
>>been badly wounded. Had this being a Syrian warship shelling
>>Israeli civilians on the Haifa-Tel Aviv road, of course, Mr.
>>Clinton himself would have deplored — rightly — an act of
>>”international terrorism.”
>
>>But not a word of criticism about this scandalous targeting of
>>Lebanese civilians was uttered by the foreign ministers of
>>America, Russia, France and Italy as they sought to bring an end
>>to an apparently unstoppable war.
>
>>++++++++++++++
>>American Renaissance
>>http://www.amren.com
>
>>British National Party
>>http://www.bnp.net
>
>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>
>>Katja Lane’s Fourteen Word Press
>>http://www.nidlink.com/~fourteenwords
>
>>National Alliance
>>http://www.natvan.com
>
>>Stormfront
>>http://www.stormfront.org
>
>>Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library
>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>
>
>
>On 12 Aug 1998 00:19:32 GMT, [email protected] (Serhiy Makarenko) wrote:
>
>>torres ([email protected]) wrote:
>>: Why do we go overboard in backing the Jews in the
>>: Arab/Jewish conflict?
>>
>>: That is partially the reason, why we are so hated
>>: and have become the targets of outraged Arabs,
>>: who object to the double standard.
>>———–
>>
>>I see, you realy scared by arabs and another muslim terrorists.
>>Sergio
>>
>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:08:29 EST 1999
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Subject: NIZKOR /NAZIKOR SWINDLES EVEN JEWS!!!
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wrote:>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avengerwrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>>
>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>
>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>
>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is
>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>> telephone # 204-983-1829
>>
>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected], or
>>>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>
>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>
>> They are waiting for your complaints
>>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> > letters?
>>
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith’s butt.
>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>Canadian dollars.
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>
>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>
>>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>
>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>
>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>>
>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>[email protected] which contains the
>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com
>>
>>
>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>Canada!!!
>>
>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>
>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>
>>
>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return…. and see if it comes
>>>>from anthing called “Nizkor,” or claims that it would… won’t that be
>>>>fun, Bill? If you don’t get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>you’ve got me, eh?
>>
>>>>Please print this form and send to:
>>>>The Nizkor Project
>>>>c/o
>>>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>>>xxxxxx Street
>>>>Toronto, Ontario
>>
>>>>Name:________________________________________
>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>>
>>>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>>>cheque’s memo section.
>>
>>
>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>[#0235903-43-13]
>>
>>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:08:30 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.polish:137222 soc.culture.russian:105072 soc.culture.ukrainian:45702 soc.culture.malaysia:234839On 10 Jan 1999 09:12:24 GMT, “nancy zeleznik”
wrote: >Are one of a kind.I dare anyone to dispute this. Please try and dispute
>this. The Bolsheviks were mostly, mostly, JEWS.No hatred, just
>FACTS.Absolute FACTS.You are too kind. Even in Russia, the people have started to awaken to
their slavery by the JEWS!!!On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:53:41 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:49:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>For those concerned about the mass murders by the Soviet JEWS and the
>>KGB, attached is an article for consideration
>
>
>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>>that passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington
>>D.C. during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The
>>following quotes are taken directly from documents available from the
>>U.S. Archives:
>>
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet
>>government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>>July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet
>>government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>>type.”
>>
>>
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>>reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here
>>were 384 `commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
>>22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
>>come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
>>Imperial Government.”
>>
>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>>foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev
>>(Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>>little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and
>>they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>
>>
>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>>Propaganda Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the
>>Judiciary, United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>>side of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the
>>American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much
>>pleased that there was somebody who could speak English, and their
>>broken English showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A
>>number of these men called on me and were impressed with the strange
>>Yiddish element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon
>>became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled
>>Bolshevik movement were Jews…I have a firm conviction that this
>>thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in the east side
>>of New York…The latest startling information, given me by someone
>>with good authority, startling information, is this, that in December,
>>1918, in the northern community of Petrograd that is what they call
>>the section of the Soviet regime under the Presidency of the man known
>>as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff) out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be
>>real Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America who
>>calls himself Professor Gordon.
>>
>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>>on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and
>>I often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway.
>>This all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>>because there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>>Petrograd, but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of
>>the agitators were Jews.
>>
>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>>that was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real
>>Russians did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>>April, 4, 1919)
>>
>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin,
>>Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:
>>
>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>>customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
>>an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>>death penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80
>>percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln,
>>an American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>>were murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of
>>them directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of
>>Jewish Communist bosses.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> http://www.natall.com
>> http://www.natvan.com
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:08:34 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.baltics:17681 soc.culture.russian:105114 soc.culture.polish:137257 soc.culture.malaysia:234878 soc.culture.palestine:58203On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:59:21 -0500, ipm
wrote:
>iwraw wrote:>> PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN OCCURS ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS AN
>> ORGANISED CRIME. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE.>> No country/race is more or less culpable. Do not focus on this as an issue
>> of race. It isn’t just Israel but Thailand,
>> India,Nepal,USA,Netherlands,Japan….everywhere.>> Furthermore,women who are involved in the sex trade should not be punished
>> for it–that is what you suggest Israel should do?>Jews have been prominant in the white slave trade for a long time:
>”The Jews in this particular sphere of activity far outnumbered all the other
>’dealers’…The Jewish trafficker in women is the most terrible of all
>profiteers of human vice; if the Jew could only be eliminated, the traffic in
>women would shrink, and would become comparatively insignificant.” (Jewish
>Chronicle, April 2, 1910).>Why do you try to protect criminals? I know, because they are Jews.
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:08:34 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.baltics:17682 soc.culture.russian:105115 soc.culture.polish:137258 soc.culture.malaysia:234879 soc.culture.palestine:58204On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 23:59:21 -0500, ipm
wrote:
>iwraw wrote:>> PROSTITUTION AND TRAFFICKING OF WOMEN OCCURS ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS AN
>> ORGANISED CRIME. WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE.>> No country/race is more or less culpable. Do not focus on this as an issue
>> of race. It isn’t just Israel but Thailand,
>> India,Nepal,USA,Netherlands,Japan….everywhere.>> Furthermore,women who are involved in the sex trade should not be punished
>> for it–that is what you suggest Israel should do?>Jews have been prominant in the white slave trade for a long time:
>”The Jews in this particular sphere of activity far outnumbered all the other
>’dealers’…The Jewish trafficker in women is the most terrible of all
>profiteers of human vice; if the Jew could only be eliminated, the traffic in
>women would shrink, and would become comparatively insignificant.” (Jewish
>Chronicle, April 2, 1910).>Why do you try to protect criminals? I know, because they are Jews.
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:20 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: COURT DOES NOT ORDER BRONFMANS TO PAY TAXES!!!
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Xref: hub.org can.general:133505 soc.culture.canada:171761 soc.culture.russian:104499 soc.culture.polish:136646 soc.culture.swiss:30885On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:22:11 GMT, [email protected] (John Corman)
wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 05:44:21 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>>Exactly. Let’s try to look at this from a different perspective. The
>>Bronfman family tried to circumvent $700 million from tax coffers. Whether
>>or not this is legal has yet to be decided by the courts.
>============================================================================
YES, it is completely true, as documented by the two news stories,
below.>Is it true that 1)they circumvented paying that kind of money
and 2)
>that it’s before the courts?YES, the swindle case has been before the Courts in Canada, and was
initially reported on 25 November 1997, as detailed below.>It’s my understanding that it’s a done deal and not before the courts.
>Revenue Canada doesn’t particularly like it because the eventual taxes
>due when the various capital gains materialize may not be as easy to
>collect now that the trust is a non resident of Canada.Presumably, Revenue Canada will have to seize other Bronfman assets in
Canada, such as Seagrams, etc.Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In articlewrote: >>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:20 EST 1999
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Winnipeg Rabbi to Marry faggots
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.canada:171762 can.general:133506 soc.culture.russian:104500 soc.culture.polish:136649On 6 Jan 1999 21:51:32 GMT, [email protected]
(Steeve) wrote:
>So you claim that pretending to get married (for spiritual
>and/or religious reasons) is illegal. I suppose we should all
>go to jail for all those pretend weddings we had when we
>were kiddies.The news is that the JEW Rabbi is making so-called “marriages”, a
process not permitted between faggots, in Canada, cretin.On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:44:26 GMT, Stephen Jenuth
wrote: >In soc.culture.canada [email protected] wrote:
>: The full text follows:
>
>: On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>:>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>:>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>:>of same sex persons.
>
>:>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!
>
>While the marriage will not be recognised by civil law (unless the
>law is changed either by Parliament or by the Courts using the Charter),
>there is nothing that suggests that the action is illegal.
>
>As such the marriage will not be a marriage.
>
>:>Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>:>illegal.
>
>: If his actions are illegal, why don’t the authorities send him to
>: jail??
>
>For what. While performing a marriage when not permitted to, or doing
>it contrary to law is illegal under the Criminal Code;ARE YOU NOT CONTRADICTING YOURSELF??
IF IT IS “ILLEGAL” AS YOU CLAIM, under the Criminal Code, why is the
Jew Rabbi not charged??>these are clearly
>not marriages in the civil law sense. Thus there would be no offence.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Stephen Jenuth
>([email protected])
>
>Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:21 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.ukrainian:45526 soc.culture.baltics:17560 soc.culture.polish:136656 soc.culture.australian:84230 soc.culture.russian:104506>On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:33:05 GMT, [email protected] the maggot
>apologist for the Jew Christkillers wrote:
>From deja News some interesting comments worthy of more discussion.>On 29 Sep 1997 09:42:03 GMT, [email protected](NSWPP) wrote:
>> 1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?>> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>demographic statistics.
>
>> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>
>> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>WORLD WAR TWO?
>
>> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>race or national origin alone.
>
>
>> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>
>> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>internment once the war broke out.
>
>> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>been fully justified.
>
>
>> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>
>> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>
>
>> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>
>> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
>
>> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>
>
>> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>
>> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>
>
>> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>
>> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>
>
>> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>
>> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>commonly used and available today.
>
>
>> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>
>> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>cross examined.
>
>
>> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>
>> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>only are employed.
>
>
>> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>
>> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>
>
>> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>
>> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>million figure as well.
>
>
>> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>NOT KNOW?
>
>> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>all during the war that such an event was occurring.
>
>
>> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>DURING THE WAR?
>
>> About 300,000.
>
>
>> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>
>> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>
>
>> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>DIED?
>
>> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>
>
>> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>
>> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>
>
>> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>
>> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>
>> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>
>> About two hours.
>
>
>> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>
>> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>typhus and other diseases.
>>
>
>> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>
>> About 430,600.
>
>
>> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>
>> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>when in heavy operation.
>
>
>> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>CORPSE?
>
>> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>
>
>> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>
>> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>anywhere else in Europe.
>
>
>> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>
>> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>burned.
>
>
>> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>
>> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>
>> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>
>
>> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>
>> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>published text.
>
>> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>
>> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>
>> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>
>> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>
>
>> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>
>> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>
>
>> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>
>> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>Zip. Nada.
>
>
>> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>DURING THE WAR?
>
>> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>to silence him.
>
>
>> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>
>> Slightly less than four million.
>
>
>> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>NAZIS?
>
>> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>kill them.
>
>
>> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>
>> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>they are all accounted for.
>
>> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>TODAY?
>
>> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>
>
>> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>
>> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>creative and financial sectors of film making.
>
>> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>
>
>> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> Over 100, with more in the works.
>
>
>> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>
>> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>
>
>> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>
>> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>
>> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>prison and torture in Germany.
>
>> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>
>> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>
>> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>REVISIONISTS?
>
>> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>
>
>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>[email protected] – W.S.
>sven88
>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:24 EST 1999
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.baltics:17564 soc.culture.russian:104532 soc.culture.polish:136676 soc.culture.malaysia:233292 soc.culture.palestine:57912Your article is but one of many recently revealing JEW perfidy!!!
On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
wrote:
>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>
>>> Dear Sir,
>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>> people.
>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>> irgun43>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>> illegaly.>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>> in Israel.
>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 03:15:27 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>***************************
>Traffickers’ New Cargo:
>Naive Slavic Women
>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>***************************>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>tops of tables.
>
>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>eyes.
>
>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>you and bring you back.”
>
>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>the robust global economy.
>
>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>
>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>into Western Europe alone.
>
>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>
>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>really happen at all.”
>
>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>
>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>
>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>countries and, usually, false documents.
>
>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>wages they could never imagine at home.
>
>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>
>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>are ubiquitous.
>
>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>
>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>
>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>the violence that awaits them.
>
>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>captors.
>
>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>
>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>
>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>average price of just under $1,000.
>
>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
> time.”
>
>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>very light.”
>
>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>against the sale of human beings.
>
>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>
>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>
>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>
>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>cell phone.
>
>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>Soviet Union.
>
>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>
>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>is all we need.”
>
>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>routine part of her job.
>
>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>
>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>
>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>
>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>become a matter of survival.
>
>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>
>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>find to save themselves.
>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>are go to men. So they leave.”
>
>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>
>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>
>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>
>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>arrested.”
>
>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>
>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>
>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>employed illegally there now.
>
>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>
>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>
>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>which had enslaved them.”
>
>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>
>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>
>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>now.”
>
>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>
>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>
>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>factory for no wages?”
>
>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>
>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>I could ever get at home.”
>
>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>
>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>
>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>
>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>
>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>
>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>
>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>ready to do anything for money.”
>
>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>
>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>laughed heartily.
>
>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>
>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>
>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>documents are taken to prison.
>
>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>
>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>did nothing to hide their identities.
>
>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>protection program.
>
>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>
>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>
>
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>http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your OwnFrom [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:38 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: COURT ORDERS JEW BRONFMANS TO PAY TAXES!!!
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Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”Canadian Press report (2 January 1999) that Justice Francis Mudloon of
the
Federal Court of Canada ruled that the JEW Bronfmans must pay the
more than $700 Millions unpaid taxes!!!Further, Justice Muldoon ruled that Revenue Canada’s actions
“smells” of “grave maladministration” and favouritism.Justice Muldoon also commented that Harris acted “on behalf
of all fellow taxpayers,except the favoured few.”On 12 Apr 1998 22:36:43 -0700, [email protected] (Ken McVay)
wrote:
>In articlewrote: >>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
BRONFMAN JEWS!!!In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 December 1991 that the
Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!
George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor General
of Canada in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
department out of ” hundreds of millions of dollars”!!!Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
issue.He is quoted as saying, according to CP:”He will be helping to sustain
public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
administration of justice generally.”Could it be that the goy-boy Oyvay finally got kicked out of NIZKOR,
since the Bnai Brith could no longer stand the heat of the
investigations for tax fraud?Did the IRS and Revenue Canada taxation finally get fed up with the
multi-million dollar
FRAUD by OyVay??Is that why the filthy pervert OyVay is now in hiding back in
Nanaimo???Is OyVay back to being a “gas station attendant” for his living, or is
it again on welfare??From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:38 EST 1999
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Subject: Trotsky and his Jew Bolsheviks
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>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, [email protected] (Doc
>Tavish II) wrote:
>
>>Well I’ll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>Communists and who they were!
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>>Trotsky’s political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief stay at
>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>>At the party’s Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>Results and Prospects.
>>
>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution……
>>
>>Above found at:
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Let’s review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>
>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz’s book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam #13084-6 says on page 377: “Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews.”
>>
>>I now ask: “How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren’t in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish conceived and run totalitarian state!
>>
>>>said!>
>>
>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>
>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>
>>Try also:
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>
>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>Try:
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>which states:
>>
>>”Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924.”
>>Let’s see ol’ Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>
>>”Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>common enemies” (Univ. Jew Encyc., Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>Consider this:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>You will run across this:
>>
>>Welcome to the Library of Congress’s Soviet Archives exhibit.
>>
>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress’
>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>Once there try all “exhibits” but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>”The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda — as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC’s
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il’ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military…..”
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>”On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families” (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the ” reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . .”(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish “Bund.”
>>
>>—————————————————————–
>>
>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>
>> Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>> I will find all credible sites
>> that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>> Till the next installment!From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:39 EST 1999
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Subject: If JEWS in Hitler Army – How Many Really Died?
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>On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:09:41 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:28:22 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>>wrote:
>>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>> > One MUST question the alleged figure of the damn JEWS as to how many
>>>> > allegedly died in WWII.
>
>>>> Is there no wonder how the dumn Jews have so big influence in the world?
>
>>>> J.B.
>
>>>=================
>>>Presence of Jews in Hitler’s army clearly rules out the story of
>>>exterminatinon. Being in high places they would know that the story is
>>>true and would alert the world through their relatives.
>
>>>They have not done it … little chance that there was Jewish genocide.
>>>Moreover, there are no bones of 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the
>>>chance to cremate.
>
>>>Why Jews are smart and there is no doubt about it?
>
>>>Jew are the oldest people on earth with practical alphabet. Being so
>>>for they became the record keepers and accountants of the world. While
>>>Slavic women looked at Slavic mens muscles in order to be sure that he
>>>will have the strenght to plow and feed her family Jewish maiden looked
>>>in Jewish boys for brains to sustain them.
>
>>>Moreover Catholicizm caused that the smartest boys especially in peasant
>>>families became priests and than the genes of smartnes did not
>>>reproduced. In Rabbis families was just the opposite, the smartest boy
>>>in the shtetle was gettin hand of the smart rabbis daughters.
>
>>>But I do not worry about that. Mere forty years of education given to
>>>the Slavs admixed with Jewish apparatus of terror and the Slavs managed
>>>to launch Sputnik and man space station Mir.
>
>>>Western Europeans were unable to do it.
>>>PawlikowskiFrom [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:40 EST 1999
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Subject: Jews in white sex slave trade against Slavic women pt.1
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wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!
>From [email protected] Mon Jan 11 14:13:41 EST 1999
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Subject: Re: Jew Admits-JEWS Murdered 25 Million Ukrainians!!!
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.russian:104583 soc.culture.ukrainian:45550 soc.culture.polish:136724 soc.culture.german:94075On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:03:49 +0100, mike muth
wanted
to write:On 4 Jan 1999 01:47:00 GMT, [email protected] (Alyvaryat) wrote:
>>What a savage, subhuman people!
Perhaps he was referring to the JEW murderers?
> Did your nation ever have to endure an artificial Famine at the hands of
>it’s occupiers as Ukraine had to endure at Russia’s hands? You cannot honestly
>tell me what levels you, your family, or “your people” would go to in order to
>survive. Self-preservation is a powerful driving force.> Perhaps, since you feel you are able to judge an entire nation as
>”subhuman” and “savage”, you should go thru something like this and then tell
>those that survived Russia’s assault on Ukraine in 1932 thru 1933 that you
>never did those things…….What is even surprising, is that the article was written by an honest
Jewish writer, well known in Canada for telling the truth.On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:33:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 14 Dec 1998 05:44:48, [email protected] wrote:
>>Reply-To:
>>From: “nikst”
>>Subject: THE TORONTO SUN: Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:47:59 +0300>>THE TORONTO SUN, Sunday, December 13, 1998
>>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust
>>By ERIC MARGOLIS
>>Contributing Foreign Editor>>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show
>>trial of that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet,
>>the 65th anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly
>>ignored. Leftists now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be
>>reminded of the Unknown Holocaust.>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in
>>Ukraine. Stalin determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent
>>farmers – called kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to
>>crush Ukraine’s growing spirit of nationalism.>> Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed
>>terror and dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from
>>Moscow
>>- earlier versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian
>>peasants into collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began
>>selective executions of recalcitrant farmers.>>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number,
>>OGPU was ordered to begin mass executions. But there were simply not
>>enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many people, so Stalin
>>decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of death – mass
>>starvation.>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were
>>confiscated from Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator
>>Mengistu Haile Mariam used the same method in the 1970s to force
>>collectivization: the resulting famine cased one million deaths.)>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail
>>lines. Nothing came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and
>>looted of food and fuel. Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger,
>>cold and sickness.>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent
>>henchman Lazar Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance.
>>Kaganovitch, the Soviet Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000
>>Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of all Ukrainian intellectuals were
>>executed. A Ukrainian party member named Nikita Khruschchev helped
>>supervise the slaughter.>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created
>>by Kaganovitch and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets,
>>boots and belts, plus bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant
>>children.>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s
>>custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day.
>>The KGB’s archives, and recent work by Russian historians, show at
>>least seven million died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine
>>million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine’s population was
>>exterminated.>>Millions of victims
>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot
>>during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10
>>million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in
>>Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in
>>the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial
>>genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20
>>million war dead.>>Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were
>>Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the
>>frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine,
>>the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame
>>the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering.>When even a Jew writer admits the truth, perhaps Christmas is near??
>As a direct
>>result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the
>>region’s innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by
>>Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of
>>Europe’s Jews by the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger
>>holocaust in Ukraine has been suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s
>>genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler began the Jewish Holocaust,
>>and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before the world’s gaze. But
>>Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or concealed by a
>>left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day. In the
>>strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney
>>Webb and PM Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33
>>and proclaimed reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not
>>see one under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent
>>Walter Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting,
>>wrote claims of famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million
>>people were dying around them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New
>>York Times has never repudiated Duranty’s lies.>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological
>>and historical roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime –
>>the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist
>>theology.>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the
>>governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the
>>Ukrainian genocide and Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they
>>eagerly welcomed him as an ally during World War II. Stalin, who
>>Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,” murdered four times more people
>>than Adolf Hitler.>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were
>>ever brought to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a
>>few years ago, still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and
>>enjoying a generous state pension.>>Eric can be reached by e-mail at: [email protected].
>>Letters to the editor should be sent to: [email protected].
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Xref: hub.org soc.culture.russian:104584 soc.culture.polish:136725 soc.culture.german:94076 soc.culture.malaysia:233547 soc.culture.palestine:57941On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:37:18 +0100, mike muth
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Subject: Re: Jew Lust for Lesbianism/FaggotsNewsgroups: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.polish,
soc.culture.palestine
References: 1In Canada a JEW Rabbi now wants to perform ILLEGAL marriages of
faggots and lezzies. Story follows:
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!
>Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal.If his actions are illegal, why don’t the authorities send him to
jail??>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action. However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:45:47 +0000, Claymore
wrote: >All LEZZAS are Hate filled Bigoted Scum, just like faggots and should be
>GASSED !.>In article <[email protected]>, Israel Schiff
>writes
>>On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Elazar wrote: “For my Jewish brethren searching for a
>>Biblical basis for sanctioning homosexuality, I provide you with words from
>>Rabbis Marc Angel, Hillel Goldberg and Pinchas Stopler in their joint
>>article published in the Winter, 1992-93 edition of Jewish Action Magazine;”
>>Well, here’s another viewpoint: Bible Review, December 1993, p. 11 DOES THE
>>BIBLE PROHIBIT HOMOSEXUALITY? by Rabbi Jacob Milgrom: “The Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to Israel. It is incorrect to apply it on a
>>universal scale.
>>This past Yom Kippur, September 25, 1993, my synagogue invited me to explain
>>the afternoon scriptural reading, the list of forbidden sexual liaisons in
>>Leviticus 18. I chose to focus on what is today one of the most frequently
>>quoted passages in the entire Bible, “Do not lie with a male as one lies
>>with a woman, it is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).
>>
>>What I said may be both good news and bad news to my Christian friends,
>>depending on their position on gay and lesbian rights. This Biblical
>>prohibition is addressed only to the Jews. Non-Jews are affected only if
>>they reside in the Holy Land, but not elsewhere (see the closing exhortation
>>in Leviticus 18, verses 24-30). Thus, it is incorrect to apply this
>>prohibition on a universal scale.
>>
>>But I spoke to my fellow Jews, who are required to observe this prohibition.
>>What is the rationale for this prohibition? In a previous column, I noted
>>that the Bible’s impurity rules are part of a symbol system representing the
>>forces of life and death. Israel is required to avoid these impurities and
>>adhere to the laws commanded by God, who promotes the forces of life. Thus
>>in the same chapter we read, “You shall heed my statutes and my rules, by
>>doing them one shall live” (Leviticus 18:5). A man who discharges semen,
>>whether intentionally or otherwise, is declared impure and must purify
>>himself by bathing (a sort of re-baptism) before he is permitted to enter
>>the Temple or touch sacred (sacrificial) food (Leviticus 15:16-18). Why?
>>Because semen stands for life, and the loss of semen symbolizes the loss of
>>life.
>>
>>Note also that in the entire list of forbidden sexual unions, THERE IS NO
>>PROHIBITION AGAINST LESBIANISM. Can it be that lesbianism did not exist in
>>ancient times or that Scripture was unaware of its existence? Lesbians
>>existed and flourished, as attested in an old (pre-Israelite)
>>
>>Babylonian text and in the work of the lesbian poet Sappho (born c. 612
>>B.C.E., during the time of the First Temple), who came from the island of
>>Lesbos (hence lesbianism). But there is a fundamental difference between the
>>homosexual acts of men and women. IN LESBIANISM THERE IS NO SPILLING OF
>>SEED. Thus life is not symbolically lost,