Damian Clark wrote:
>>
>> Hey Folks,
>> I am not trying to be paranoid but what I have just found could be
>> frightening and could come back to haunt anyone of us who post. I
>> always knew of Usenet search engines (programs which search all of
>> netnews articles for a given text) but, I didn’t know about Usenet
>> archive sites.
Even archive bins get trashed and evolve off timely. There isn’t enough
hard drive in the world to store every post. besides, what have you said
that you can’t live with??
AArdvark
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Sorry, this is no excuse. The fact of the matter is that you can’t
> have a free society and be secure against industrial or political
> espionage. We ARE wide open for espionage, simply because we have
> open borders. For many years (and probably today as well) the KGB
> was given a ‘shopping list’ of technology to buy, beg, borrow, or
> steal from the US. They found it generally very simple to get these
> items – sometimes as simple as going down to the local Circuit
> City and making an untraceable cash purchase.
It can be even easier than that. Go to your local synagogue & drop a few
shekels, like the Ruskies did, & the world is up for grabs. Read the
following article culled from the Washington Post as reported by a
Chicago periodical:
Date: Thursday, 07-Mar-96 05:43 AM
Subject: spies subverted holocaust
U.S. reveals WWII spies.
_by James Brolin, Cicero Gazette
03/06/96
******************************
Last week the Pentagon leaked a memo warning higher-ups of the treachery
of jews and recommending jews not have security clearance and access to
sensitive data, as that data would end up in israel’s hands.
The Pentagon the next day denied the memo. On the 3rd day it
acknowledged
the memo, said it was wrong & started an investigation into the source
of
the leak.
Leaks of this nature are routine and deliberate. They awaken the public
to
issues which the govt’ doesn’t want to release via official channels.
However, the timing of the leak seemed to be obscure. Today we know the
reason for the leak.
The _WASHINGTON POST_ reported on yesterday that the our govt’ released
intercepted Soviet spy messages, describing successful Russian
penetration
into major U.S. institutions, including the White House, War Dept
(during
Roosevelt & Truman) and the State Dept.
Two dozen spies were named, from the sect’y to walter LIPPMAN to alger
HISS,
klaus FUCHS, “MLAD”, War Dept. official william ULLMAN, intelligence
official joseph JULIUS, Treas Dept.’s harold GLASSER, the Air Forces’s
george SILVERMAN, and nathan SILVERMASTER of the Bd. of Economic Warfare.
ALL BUT TWO ARE jewish. Even as Hitler ravaged Europe, even as millions
of
Britains, Americans, Poles & French were dying to subdue the holocaust,
jews
spying on America and were giving up American secrets for Russian &
German
shekels, dooming their brothers in the gas-chambers of Auschwitz to death.
Many of those covertly exposed in the 50’s were never prosecuted
“because
the govt’ was not prepared to publicly reveal that it had succeeded in
cracking the (Soviet) codes”.
Uh, huh.
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Robert wrote:
>
>
>I’m new to the area and would like information on any Militia’s in
>Fort Worth. Meetings, where, when? thanks for the help
Contact J*ws for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, or, Linda
Thompson. Both post in this NG>
AArdvark
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Hey, great idea……..except for one little problem. You waste your
>vote on him, Clinton gets back in. Happened last time when good folks
>listened to Ross Perot. It can happen again. Now, do you want a nice,
>feel good vote and get Clinton again, or will you hold your nose as I
>will and vote for Dole? Any other choice gets you Clinton. THINK ABOUT
>IT!!!!
Your analysis is quite accurate. However, only because educated &
conservative voters don’t stick together. If they did, Buchanan would be
Prez.
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[email protected] (Dana) wrote:
>
>
>
>Individual survialist is interested in working with other survival
groups in
>Upstate New York. I hope I’m not the only one around here. Thanks.
No you’re not. Be careful, the JDL’s militia training center is in
upstate NY, as reported by CH 4 last year. Don’t remember which county.
Our several militias in Ill. & Ore. are by invitation & personal voucher
only. Sorry. You might try the NJ Militia headquartered in Trenton for
info.
AArdvark
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Date: Thursday, 04-Apr-96 01:36 AM
Subject: A yeasty piece
As usual, Jim’s biting commentary is a tad like nails on a chalkboard,
but
he’s right.
>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:47:41 -0600
>X-Sender: [email protected]
>X-UIDL: 828588755.013
>
>JAMES FLOYD on State supported radio
>Yesterday National Public Radio whisked us away to Crown Heights, New
York,
>to a Lubavitch bakery. Commentator Dean Olson sang the praises of the
>Passover cracker, (matzo) for twenty solid minutes. He painted a
beautiful
>word-picture of Lubavitch men and women blissfully preparing their
little
>unleavened cookies. It is regrettable that Mr. Olson gave us no back-
ground
>information on this cultic group. If he were reporting on Holiness snake
>handlers, Moslems, Mormons, right-wing fundamentalist, Odinist, the
Identity
>or any other religious order, we would have been inundated with
derisions
of
>the groups idiosyncrasies.
> SOME QUESTIONS FOR MR. OLSON
>Is Rebbe Schneerson, (their Messiah) still dead? If He did not rise
from
the
>grave then what has been the impact upon those we saw on TV waiting at
His
>crypt, Congressman Schumer, Governor Cumo etc.?
>Is this the cult which circumcises boy children on the eight day and
does
>the Mohel use a sharp rock or a knife? Does he really suck the blood
>from
>the screaming baby’s penis – mix the blood with his saliva – spit the
>mixture into a pitcher of wine, then pour the spit, blood and wine into
>little cups to be drank by friends and family?
>Is this the famous ‘hole in the sheet gang’ ie. those who have sex with
>their wives only if the woman is completely covered with a sheet, having
>only an access hole over her vagina – thus avoiding defilement?
>Inquiring minds want to know and you, Mr. Olson, missed a grand
opportunity
>to fully inform us about these delightful people. We await your next
>in-depth report. Happy Passover.
>
> ALERT
>Word has just reached me that this stupid Administration has asked the
IDF,
>(Israeli Defense Force) to help with security at the Atlanta Olympics.
If
>you have any information regarding this insanity, please contact me. We
need
>Israeli child killing, war criminals policing our country about like we
need
>another venereal disease.
>c/c [email protected]
> Jim Floyd
> [email protected]
>
>
>
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Date: Thursday, 04-Apr-96 01:36 AM
Subject: A yeasty piece
As usual, Jim’s biting commentary is a tad like nails on a chalkboard,
but
he’s right.
>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:47:41 -0600
>X-Sender: [email protected]
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>
>JAMES FLOYD on State supported radio
>Yesterday National Public Radio whisked us away to Crown Heights, New
York,
>to a Lubavitch bakery. Commentator Dean Olson sang the praises of the
>Passover cracker, (matzo) for twenty solid minutes. He painted a
beautiful
>word-picture of Lubavitch men and women blissfully preparing their
little
>unleavened cookies. It is regrettable that Mr. Olson gave us no back-
ground
>information on this cultic group. If he were reporting on Holiness snake
>handlers, Moslems, Mormons, right-wing fundamentalist, Odinist, the
Identity
>or any other religious order, we would have been inundated with
derisions
of
>the groups idiosyncrasies.
> SOME QUESTIONS FOR MR. OLSON
>Is Rebbe Schneerson, (their Messiah) still dead? If He did not rise
from
the
>grave then what has been the impact upon those we saw on TV waiting at
His
>crypt, Congressman Schumer, Governor Cumo etc.?
>Is this the cult which circumcises boy children on the eight day and
does
>the Mohel use a sharp rock or a knife? Does he really suck the blood
>from
>the screaming baby’s penis – mix the blood with his saliva – spit the
>mixture into a pitcher of wine, then pour the spit, blood and wine into
>little cups to be drank by friends and family?
>Is this the famous ‘hole in the sheet gang’ ie. those who have sex with
>their wives only if the woman is completely covered with a sheet, having
>only an access hole over her vagina – thus avoiding defilement?
>Inquiring minds want to know and you, Mr. Olson, missed a grand
opportunity
>to fully inform us about these delightful people. We await your next
>in-depth report. Happy Passover.
>
> ALERT
>Word has just reached me that this stupid Administration has asked the
IDF,
>(Israeli Defense Force) to help with security at the Atlanta Olympics.
If
>you have any information regarding this insanity, please contact me. We
need
>Israeli child killing, war criminals policing our country about like we
need
>another venereal disease.
>c/c [email protected]
> Jim Floyd
> [email protected]
>
>
>
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Subject: Weatherman sued for his inaccurate broadcast
Are TV weather reports legally binding? One sniffling Israeli says yes.
A woman in Haifa is suing Channel 2 TV and its popular weatherman Danny
Rup in small claims court for $1000 after he predicted sun for a day that
turned out stormy, the Maariv daily newspaper said.
The woman claims the forecast caused her to leave home lightly dressed.
As a result, she caught the flu, missed four days’ work, spent $38 on
medication and suffered stress.
In addition to financial compensation, the woman wants Rup to apologize,
it said. The woman was not identified.
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Subject: what comes first, beer or TV
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Date: Thursday, 04-Apr-96 09:09 PM
Subject: Hassidics & learned behavior.
03/29/96
The Cicero Gazette
by James Brolin, staff writer
I have always admired the Hassidum. They are unique people, as important
to
Twenty-first Century Judaism as were the Dark Ages Jesuits to modern
Christians. They are, indeed, the keepers of the faith.
Nestled in Central Jersey, close to the Shore, lies the world’s largest
Yeshiva. The community bustles even now with traditional & pure Passover
activities. There is, however, not one TV in the community of over three
thousand students. Viewing the spurious brainwash perpetrated on the rest
of
us by their liberal brothers is strictly forbidden. The rebbi mentors
know
full well what the outcome could be.
But the world is growing smaller via technology. Yeshiva students are
on-line; they are experiencing facets of life previously out of their
reach.
And so it comes as no wonder that many of them are reaching out,
severing
the ties-that-bind, stretching the formal-line apron strings beyond
lengths
expected by their teachers.
They are now routinely seen frequenting local bars, so much so, in fact,
that the local White & Puerto Rican rif-raf no longer mock & ridicule
them.
They, rather, now engage them in curious & unsure conversation over a
few
beers.
The students’ thirst for TV, too, is growing. Groups of ten or more
Hassidics can be regularly seen sitting in the lobbies of local hotels,
availing themselves of, oddly enough, ESPN on the lobby cable TV.
Sometimes
the youngsters pay several dollars to the night clerk for the convenience.
What, then, is the effect of this exposure on the cultist students?? The
answer to that brings me to the following several articles. The first
comes
>from the Asbury Park Press (NJ), sent to me by the owner of a local gin-
mill
on Rt 70 in Lakewood, close to the Yeshiva. The second was culled from
Channel 4’s (NY) 6pm news:
***************************************
Asbury Park Press, Thurs., March 7,1996 by Wayne parry & John Harnes
Subject: Beer can flying from bus spurs charges.
Ocean Twp- Seven 14 and 15-year-olds apparently spent some of the Jewish
holiday of Purim drinking beer as their school bus driver was taking
them
home late Monday night, police say. Patrolman Loizos noticed the bus
shortly
after 11:30 pm when he saw a beer can being tossed out the bus’s window
at
Deal Rd. and Rt 35. He alerted Ptl. Michael Rich, who stopped the bus.
Officers found cups of beer and open beer cans under the seats. An empty
bottle of whiskey was also found on the bus.
Police had no reason to believe the driver, Sinai Algov, 39, had been
drinking, and he was not charged with drinking. He was charged with
possession of alcohol, serving it to minors, littering and having an
open
container in a vehicle. He was released on $1000 bond, police said.
Algov knew his underage passengers were drinking but thought it was
alright
because of the holiday. He works for a private transportation company.
The seven students charged with possession were being driven home to
Lakewood from the rabbi Jacob Joseph School in Edison Twp.
*****************************************
NBC News, 6:pm, Ch 4, NYC 03/13/96
A peeping-tom rabbi, who regularly filmed young students through their
dormitory windows across the street from his apartment, caught Yeshiva
students lighting ‘sizeable’ fires on their desks inside their rooms. He
called the fire department.
Yeshiva mentors wouldn’t comment other than to say the building was very
old
and would have gone up like a tinder-box.
The tape was turned over to the police and the matter is being
investigated.
*****************************************
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Subject: Aryan pride websites=3 new ones
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Date: Wednesday, 03-Apr-96 03:35 PM
Even our enemies concede that we have an elegant and sophisticated site –
probably one of the premier political activist sites globally. As a
result,
we are often asked by people who struggle alongside us to provide links
to
their own sites from the very busy Zundelsite.
We don’t do this at the present time, in part for legal reasons and
simply
because our enemies are sitting there, waiting to smear us by
association
with someone who could be called “racist” or “hateful” or worse –
depending
on who makes the charge and from what country’s legal platform. Please
understand that this is one of the important reason we do not provide
links
to just anyone.
But I don’t see what harm could be done by letting you know occasionally
if
a site springs up that has information relevant to our struggle –
regardless
of whether or not we agree with or feel allied to that site’s entire
content. We are simply bringing you the information as a public service.
There are three sites I’d like to mention today that might be of interest
to
you.
First, there is Bradley Smith’s site, CODOH. I have mentioned CODOH
before
but neglected to give you the URL, which is
http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/
“. . . CODOH features technical articles on the gas chamber controversy,
transcripts and articles questioning the validity of various war crimes
trials, documentation of the persecution and censorship of revisionists
and
other free thinkers, reviews of thought-provoking books and e-mail from
you,
our readers.
CODOH International offers material in German, Italian and French — so
far.
CODOH is also pleased to announce the new David Irving Page. . .”
Next, there is a new and exciting website located in Australia. Its URL
is
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html.
It says, in part:
“. . . We are not “holocaust deniers”. We proudly proclaim that to date
there is no evidence that millions of people were killed in homicidal
gas
chambers. That is good news all round.
Why would anyone find this offensive? We are celebrating the living who
were
thought dead. How can this be an offence – unless it offends those who
have
their snout in the trough which Jewish academic, Dr Frank Knopfelmacher
called, “the Holocaust racket. . . ”
We at the Zundelsite hope that this Australian site will specialize in
scientific documentation such as the three additional forensic reports
that
have come in the wake of the trailblazing and so virulently and falsely
maligned Leuchter Report. Having a related site like that at our
fingertips
half a globe away saves us an enormous amount of work and makes us twice
as
strong.
Third, there is a young man, a junior college student named Justin, up
in
the Northwest of the United States who has been tireless in trying to
promote a student association honoring his white, European ancestry.
Justin has taken quite a bit of flak for standing up for his ethnic
heritage, but he is determined and undaunted. Last week, his website
was
announced. You find it at http://nwlink.com/~justin49
It advertises itself (abbreviated) as follows:
“. . . We intend to inform Euro-American students on issues relevant to
them. We will exercise our right to take pride in who we are and where
we
came from. Whether your family’s historical roots are from Northern,
Southern, or Eastern Europe, we will promote unity and pride among
Euro-American students. We believe that every race and ethnic group
should
be equally proud of its unique history and heritage.
We will promote a better understanding of European and Euro-American
ethnic
tradition and culture, including often overlooked pre-Christian ideals.
The
sad fact of the matter is that most Euro-American students actually know
very little about their real history; the E.S.A. (Euro-American
Students’
Association) seeks to help change this.
Through our network of universities and colleges, we will promote
relevent
speakers and performers. These people will promote European culture and
also
speak about Euro-American issues.
We will act to promote dignity and pride among all students, regardless
of
race. The best way to do this is to promote a strong sense of self
identity,
one necessary for a healthy mind set. . .”
Please frequent these sites and, if relevant, link them to your sites.
And
please understand that, since the Zundelsite is more besieged than most
and
is targeted to be made an example of free speech censorship, we cannot
provide link at this time, but appreciate your helping to share our
burden!
What we need is a thousand websites, all over the globe, contributing to
the
ethnic quilt we are stitching – all doing work in their own way so our
children and children’s children will have a warmer, cozier world than
we
are having now.
Ingrid
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english
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Date: Wednesday, 03-Apr-96 03:35 PM
Even our enemies concede that we have an elegant and sophisticated site –
probably one of the premier political activist sites globally. As a
result,
we are often asked by people who struggle alongside us to provide links
to
their own sites from the very busy Zundelsite.
We don’t do this at the present time, in part for legal reasons and
simply
because our enemies are sitting there, waiting to smear us by
association
with someone who could be called “racist” or “hateful” or worse –
depending
on who makes the charge and from what country’s legal platform. Please
understand that this is one of the important reason we do not provide
links
to just anyone.
But I don’t see what harm could be done by letting you know occasionally
if
a site springs up that has information relevant to our struggle –
regardless
of whether or not we agree with or feel allied to that site’s entire
content. We are simply bringing you the information as a public service.
There are three sites I’d like to mention today that might be of interest
to
you.
First, there is Bradley Smith’s site, CODOH. I have mentioned CODOH
before
but neglected to give you the URL, which is
http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/
“. . . CODOH features technical articles on the gas chamber controversy,
transcripts and articles questioning the validity of various war crimes
trials, documentation of the persecution and censorship of revisionists
and
other free thinkers, reviews of thought-provoking books and e-mail from
you,
our readers.
CODOH International offers material in German, Italian and French — so
far.
CODOH is also pleased to announce the new David Irving Page. . .”
Next, there is a new and exciting website located in Australia. Its URL
is
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html.
It says, in part:
“. . . We are not “holocaust deniers”. We proudly proclaim that to date
there is no evidence that millions of people were killed in homicidal
gas
chambers. That is good news all round.
Why would anyone find this offensive? We are celebrating the living who
were
thought dead. How can this be an offence – unless it offends those who
have
their snout in the trough which Jewish academic, Dr Frank Knopfelmacher
called, “the Holocaust racket. . . ”
We at the Zundelsite hope that this Australian site will specialize in
scientific documentation such as the three additional forensic reports
that
have come in the wake of the trailblazing and so virulently and falsely
maligned Leuchter Report. Having a related site like that at our
fingertips
half a globe away saves us an enormous amount of work and makes us twice
as
strong.
Third, there is a young man, a junior college student named Justin, up
in
the Northwest of the United States who has been tireless in trying to
promote a student association honoring his white, European ancestry.
Justin has taken quite a bit of flak for standing up for his ethnic
heritage, but he is determined and undaunted. Last week, his website
was
announced. You find it at http://nwlink.com/~justin49
It advertises itself (abbreviated) as follows:
“. . . We intend to inform Euro-American students on issues relevant to
them. We will exercise our right to take pride in who we are and where
we
came from. Whether your family’s historical roots are from Northern,
Southern, or Eastern Europe, we will promote unity and pride among
Euro-American students. We believe that every race and ethnic group
should
be equally proud of its unique history and heritage.
We will promote a better understanding of European and Euro-American
ethnic
tradition and culture, including often overlooked pre-Christian ideals.
The
sad fact of the matter is that most Euro-American students actually know
very little about their real history; the E.S.A. (Euro-American
Students’
Association) seeks to help change this.
Through our network of universities and colleges, we will promote
relevent
speakers and performers. These people will promote European culture and
also
speak about Euro-American issues.
We will act to promote dignity and pride among all students, regardless
of
race. The best way to do this is to promote a strong sense of self
identity,
one necessary for a healthy mind set. . .”
Please frequent these sites and, if relevant, link them to your sites.
And
please understand that, since the Zundelsite is more besieged than most
and
is targeted to be made an example of free speech censorship, we cannot
provide link at this time, but appreciate your helping to share our
burden!
What we need is a thousand websites, all over the globe, contributing to
the
ethnic quilt we are stitching – all doing work in their own way so our
children and children’s children will have a warmer, cozier world than
we
are having now.
Ingrid
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english
From [email protected] Fri Apr 5 09:20:13 PST 1996
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>
>Why would anyone want to deny the Holocaust or reduce the numbers.
>Why do so?
>To what end?
>
>I know the answers to those questions of course, I would just like to
>hear them from you.
Conversely, why do they want to increase the numbers? To what end? Why
continue this lie?
Of course, I know the answer and so do you. J*wish authors, then & now,
have alternately put figures at 90,000 to 4,000,000. They are disclaimed
by liberal j*ws even here & now on this BB. I put the figure at zero (-0-
) since ther was NO holocaust, ie, no concerted effort to reduce the
demographics.
There should have been, however, since they were responsible for the
economic chaos in pre-war Germany, the prime moving factor in WWII.
Remember, the j*ws died from the harangues of war, just like did most of
the missing public, not from any conspiracy.
From [email protected] Fri Apr 5 09:20:14 PST 1996
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>>Take, for example, the issue of the pre-war speeches of Hitler.
Everyone
>>>here holds that those are evidence of murderous intentions. Everyone,
>>>that is, except you.
>
>> That argument is often used by creationists. Majority believe is the
>>same as truth. But at the same time we have the Wannasee conference
>>document showing clearly that the original plan was resettlement and
that
>>it was later changed to work camps for the young and ghetto living for
the
>>old.
Hitler gave the j*ws more than ample time to pick up & leave Germany.
They chose, instead, to remain close to their shekels. Naturally, they
then suffered the atrocities of war suffered by all the populace. Note
too, that the Wiesenthal Center has contradicted itself once again: they
had their assets seized by the Germans…er, no, they put their assets in
Swiss banks which now owe all the WWII deposits to j*ws in general. Wait,
maybe I can figure this out………….
From [email protected] Fri Apr 5 09:20:15 PST 1996
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>>Source: _Auschwitz: a doctor’s eyewitness account_, Dr. Miklos Nyiszli;
>>ISBN 1-55970-202-8; pp. 114-120.
>
>>————————————————————————
——-
>
>>In number one’s crematorium’s gas chamber 3,000 dead bodies were piled
up.
>>The Sonderkommando had already begun to untangle the lattice of flesh.
The
>>noise of the elevators and the sound of their clanging doors reached
my
>>room. The work moved ahead double-time. The gas chambers had to be
>>cleared, for the arrival of a new convoy had been announced.
Crematoria are not in & of themselves a sign of evil. The bodies were
already dead. The cremation process merely disposes of an agent that
would infect the living. So the question is whose bodies were they?? How
did they die??
Since there was a holocaust happening against Germany, it is not
unreasonable to expect the bodies were those of Germans under hostile
attack. Where does all this ‘dead j*ws ‘ come from?? Where is the proof??
From [email protected] Fri Apr 5 10:05:44 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: 3 new web sites
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Date: Wednesday, 03-Apr-96 03:35 PM
Even our enemies concede that we have an elegant and sophisticated site –
probably one of the premier political activist sites globally. As a
result,
we are often asked by people who struggle alongside us to provide links
to
their own sites from the very busy Zundelsite.
We don’t do this at the present time, in part for legal reasons and
simply
because our enemies are sitting there, waiting to smear us by
association
with someone who could be called “racist” or “hateful” or worse –
depending
on who makes the charge and from what country’s legal platform. Please
understand that this is one of the important reason we do not provide
links
to just anyone.
But I don’t see what harm could be done by letting you know occasionally
if
a site springs up that has information relevant to our struggle –
regardless
of whether or not we agree with or feel allied to that site’s entire
content. We are simply bringing you the information as a public service.
There are three sites I’d like to mention today that might be of interest
to
you.
First, there is Bradley Smith’s site, CODOH. I have mentioned CODOH
before
but neglected to give you the URL, which is
http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/
“. . . CODOH features technical articles on the gas chamber controversy,
transcripts and articles questioning the validity of various war crimes
trials, documentation of the persecution and censorship of revisionists
and
other free thinkers, reviews of thought-provoking books and e-mail from
you,
our readers.
CODOH International offers material in German, Italian and French — so
far.
CODOH is also pleased to announce the new David Irving Page. . .”
Next, there is a new and exciting website located in Australia. Its URL
is
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html.
It says, in part:
“. . . We are not “holocaust deniers”. We proudly proclaim that to date
there is no evidence that millions of people were killed in homicidal
gas
chambers. That is good news all round.
Why would anyone find this offensive? We are celebrating the living who
were
thought dead. How can this be an offence – unless it offends those who
have
their snout in the trough which Jewish academic, Dr Frank Knopfelmacher
called, “the Holocaust racket. . . ”
We at the Zundelsite hope that this Australian site will specialize in
scientific documentation such as the three additional forensic reports
that
have come in the wake of the trailblazing and so virulently and falsely
maligned Leuchter Report. Having a related site like that at our
fingertips
half a globe away saves us an enormous amount of work and makes us twice
as
strong.
Third, there is a young man, a junior college student named Justin, up
in
the Northwest of the United States who has been tireless in trying to
promote a student association honoring his white, European ancestry.
Justin has taken quite a bit of flak for standing up for his ethnic
heritage, but he is determined and undaunted. Last week, his website
was
announced. You find it at http://nwlink.com/~justin49
It advertises itself (abbreviated) as follows:
“. . . We intend to inform Euro-American students on issues relevant to
them. We will exercise our right to take pride in who we are and where
we
came from. Whether your family’s historical roots are from Northern,
Southern, or Eastern Europe, we will promote unity and pride among
Euro-American students. We believe that every race and ethnic group
should
be equally proud of its unique history and heritage.
We will promote a better understanding of European and Euro-American
ethnic
tradition and culture, including often overlooked pre-Christian ideals.
The
sad fact of the matter is that most Euro-American students actually know
very little about their real history; the E.S.A. (Euro-American
Students’
Association) seeks to help change this.
Through our network of universities and colleges, we will promote
relevent
speakers and performers. These people will promote European culture and
also
speak about Euro-American issues.
We will act to promote dignity and pride among all students, regardless
of
race. The best way to do this is to promote a strong sense of self
identity,
one necessary for a healthy mind set. . .”
Please frequent these sites and, if relevant, link them to your sites.
And
please understand that, since the Zundelsite is more besieged than most
and
is targeted to be made an example of free speech censorship, we cannot
provide link at this time, but appreciate your helping to share our
burden!
What we need is a thousand websites, all over the globe, contributing to
the
ethnic quilt we are stitching – all doing work in their own way so our
children and children’s children will have a warmer, cozier world than
we
are having now.
Ingrid
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english
From [email protected] Fri Apr 5 10:05:45 PST 1996
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Subject: Floyd sees it like it is
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SUBJECT:
Date: Thursday, 04-Apr-96 01:36 AM
Subject: A yeasty piece
As usual, Jim’s biting commentary is a tad like nails on a chalkboard,
but
he’s right.
>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:47:41 -0600
>X-Sender: [email protected]
>X-UIDL: 828588755.013
>
>JAMES FLOYD on State supported radio
>Yesterday National Public Radio whisked us away to Crown Heights, New
York,
>to a Lubavitch bakery. Commentator Dean Olson sang the praises of the
>Passover cracker, (matzo) for twenty solid minutes. He painted a
beautiful
>word-picture of Lubavitch men and women blissfully preparing their
little
>unleavened cookies. It is regrettable that Mr. Olson gave us no back-
ground
>information on this cultic group. If he were reporting on Holiness snake
>handlers, Moslems, Mormons, right-wing fundamentalist, Odinist, the
Identity
>or any other religious order, we would have been inundated with
derisions
of
>the groups idiosyncrasies.
> SOME QUESTIONS FOR MR. OLSON
>Is Rebbe Schneerson, (their Messiah) still dead? If He did not rise
from
the
>grave then what has been the impact upon those we saw on TV waiting at
His
>crypt, Congressman Schumer, Governor Cumo etc.?
>Is this the cult which circumcises boy children on the eight day and
does
>the Mohel use a sharp rock or a knife? Does he really suck the blood
>from
>the screaming baby’s penis – mix the blood with his saliva – spit the
>mixture into a pitcher of wine, then pour the spit, blood and wine into
>little cups to be drank by friends and family?
>Is this the famous ‘hole in the sheet gang’ ie. those who have sex with
>their wives only if the woman is completely covered with a sheet, having
>only an access hole over her vagina – thus avoiding defilement?
>Inquiring minds want to know and you, Mr. Olson, missed a grand
opportunity
>to fully inform us about these delightful people. We await your next
>in-depth report. Happy Passover.
>
> ALERT
>Word has just reached me that this stupid Administration has asked the
IDF,
>(Israeli Defense Force) to help with security at the Atlanta Olympics.
If
>you have any information regarding this insanity, please contact me. We
need
>Israeli child killing, war criminals policing our country about like we
need
>another venereal disease.
>c/c [email protected]
> Jim Floyd
> [email protected]
Ed-
These are the same people who swing live chickens over their heads to
ward off evil spirits.
From [email protected] Fri Apr 5 10:05:45 PST 1996
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Subject: israeli defense force at Olympics??
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Date: Thursday, 04-Apr-96 01:36 AM
Subject: A yeasty piece
As usual, Jim’s biting commentary is a tad like nails on a chalkboard,
but
he’s right.
>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:47:41 -0600
>X-Sender: [email protected]
>X-UIDL: 828588755.013
>
>JAMES FLOYD on State supported radio
>Yesterday National Public Radio whisked us away to Crown Heights, New
York,
>to a Lubavitch bakery. Commentator Dean Olson sang the praises of the
>Passover cracker, (matzo) for twenty solid minutes. He painted a
beautiful
>word-picture of Lubavitch men and women blissfully preparing their
little
>unleavened cookies. It is regrettable that Mr. Olson gave us no back-
ground
>information on this cultic group. If he were reporting on Holiness snake
>handlers, Moslems, Mormons, right-wing fundamentalist, Odinist, the
Identity
>or any other religious order, we would have been inundated with
derisions
of
>the groups idiosyncrasies.
> SOME QUESTIONS FOR MR. OLSON
>Is Rebbe Schneerson, (their Messiah) still dead? If He did not rise
from
the
>grave then what has been the impact upon those we saw on TV waiting at
His
>crypt, Congressman Schumer, Governor Cumo etc.?
>Is this the cult which circumcises boy children on the eight day and
does
>the Mohel use a sharp rock or a knife? Does he really suck the blood
>from
>the screaming baby’s penis – mix the blood with his saliva – spit the
>mixture into a pitcher of wine, then pour the spit, blood and wine into
>little cups to be drank by friends and family?
>Is this the famous ‘hole in the sheet gang’ ie. those who have sex with
>their wives only if the woman is completely covered with a sheet, having
>only an access hole over her vagina – thus avoiding defilement?
>Inquiring minds want to know and you, Mr. Olson, missed a grand
opportunity
>to fully inform us about these delightful people. We await your next
>in-depth report. Happy Passover.
>
> ALERT
>Word has just reached me that this stupid Administration has asked the
IDF,
>(Israeli Defense Force) to help with security at the Atlanta Olympics.
If
>you have any information regarding this insanity, please contact me. We
need
>Israeli child killing, war criminals policing our country about like we
need
>another venereal disease.
>c/c [email protected]
> Jim Floyd
> [email protected]
Ed-
These are the same people who swing live chickens over their heads to
ward off evil spirits.
From [email protected] Fri Apr 5 17:05:03 PST 1996
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Even our enemies concede that we have an elegant and sophisticated site –
probably one of the premier political activist sites globally. As a
result,
we are often asked by people who struggle alongside us to provide links
to
their own sites from the very busy Zundelsite.
We don’t do this at the present time, in part for legal reasons and
simply
because our enemies are sitting there, waiting to smear us by
association
with someone who could be called “racist” or “hateful” or worse –
depending
on who makes the charge and from what country’s legal platform. Please
understand that this is one of the important reason we do not provide
links
to just anyone.
But I don’t see what harm could be done by letting you know occasionally
if
a site springs up that has information relevant to our struggle –
regardless
of whether or not we agree with or feel allied to that site’s entire
content. We are simply bringing you the information as a public service.
There are three sites I’d like to mention today that might be of interest
to
you.
First, there is Bradley Smith’s site, CODOH. I have mentioned CODOH
before
but neglected to give you the URL, which is
http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/
“. . . CODOH features technical articles on the gas chamber controversy,
transcripts and articles questioning the validity of various war crimes
trials, documentation of the persecution and censorship of revisionists
and
other free thinkers, reviews of thought-provoking books and e-mail from
you,
our readers.
CODOH International offers material in German, Italian and French — so
far.
CODOH is also pleased to announce the new David Irving Page. . .”
Next, there is a new and exciting website located in Australia. Its URL
is
http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html.
It says, in part:
“. . . We are not “holocaust deniers”. We proudly proclaim that to date
there is no evidence that millions of people were killed in homicidal
gas
chambers. That is good news all round.
Why would anyone find this offensive? We are celebrating the living who
were
thought dead. How can this be an offence – unless it offends those who
have
their snout in the trough which Jewish academic, Dr Frank Knopfelmacher
called, “the Holocaust racket. . . ”
We at the Zundelsite hope that this Australian site will specialize in
scientific documentation such as the three additional forensic reports
that
have come in the wake of the trailblazing and so virulently and falsely
maligned Leuchter Report. Having a related site like that at our
fingertips
half a globe away saves us an enormous amount of work and makes us twice
as
strong.
Third, there is a young man, a junior college student named Justin, up
in
the Northwest of the United States who has been tireless in trying to
promote a student association honoring his white, European ancestry.
Justin has taken quite a bit of flak for standing up for his ethnic
heritage, but he is determined and undaunted. Last week, his website
was
announced. You find it at http://nwlink.com/~justin49
It advertises itself (abbreviated) as follows:
“. . . We intend to inform Euro-American students on issues relevant to
them. We will exercise our right to take pride in who we are and where
we
came from. Whether your family’s historical roots are from Northern,
Southern, or Eastern Europe, we will promote unity and pride among
Euro-American students. We believe that every race and ethnic group
should
be equally proud of its unique history and heritage.
We will promote a better understanding of European and Euro-American
ethnic
tradition and culture, including often overlooked pre-Christian ideals.
The
sad fact of the matter is that most Euro-American students actually know
very little about their real history; the E.S.A. (Euro-American
Students’
Association) seeks to help change this.
Through our network of universities and colleges, we will promote
relevent
speakers and performers. These people will promote European culture and
also
speak about Euro-American issues.
We will act to promote dignity and pride among all students, regardless
of
race. The best way to do this is to promote a strong sense of self
identity,
one necessary for a healthy mind set. . .”
Please frequent these sites and, if relevant, link them to your sites.
And
please understand that, since the Zundelsite is more besieged than most
and
is targeted to be made an example of free speech censorship, we cannot
provide link at this time, but appreciate your helping to share our
burden!
What we need is a thousand websites, all over the globe, contributing to
the
ethnic quilt we are stitching – all doing work in their own way so our
children and children’s children will have a warmer, cozier world than
we
are having now.
Ingrid
http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english
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>
>None of these sites are yours…why don’t you put up your own site?
> I put up one, as everyone knows.
We HAVE put up several sites.
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>Notice the clear us-them reaction on the part of the typical
>Israeli. People belong to groups and are presumed responsible
>for the attacks of other members of the group. No surprise
>to regular readers of this newsgroup.
Not only that, but the Israeli High Court has upheld the pogram against
innocent Palestinians, whereby the possessions of jamily members of
suspected ‘terrorists’ are confiscated & their homes razed. Obviously a
good way to win friends & influence people world-round.
AArdvark
From [email protected] Mon Apr 8 12:47:39 PDT 1996
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>Notice the clear us-them reaction on the part of the typical
>Israeli. People belong to groups and are presumed responsible
>for the attacks of other members of the group. No surprise
>to regular readers of this newsgroup.
It is interesting to note that the Israelis seem to copy the methods of
Hitler in their relations with Arabs. They employ the very tactics
claimed to have been used by der Fuhrer. Thus, they must have been
excellent pograms.
AArdvark
From [email protected] Mon Apr 8 12:47:40 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: israeli defense force at Olympics??
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[email protected] (FreshAgain) wrote:
>
>Funny little story
>
>12 Israeli athletes were killed in Munich (of all places!) by the PLO
at
>the 1972 Olympics.
>
>Each and every assassin was hunted down and killed.
>
>EVERY SINGLE FILTHY ONE.
>
>Remember that.
What is your point, if you have one?
From [email protected] Mon Apr 8 12:47:41 PDT 1996
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Subject: Why they must be purged from our shores.
*************************************************
Sunday, April 7, 1996
New Haven, Conn.
A taxi driver who charged a passenger on March 18th a surcharge of $5 for
a 10 minute wait at Tweed-New Haven airport had a formal complaint filed
against him. The OUTRAGED passenger also called New Haven Mayor John
DeStefano and the cab company.
The passenger?? None other than New Jersey Senator frank LautenBERG, the
richest j*w that side of the Mississippi River. LautenBERG owns
international ADP.
The cabbie was FIRED by Carolyn’s Checker Cab Co., owned by michael
WOLKOWITZ. Neither Channels 2, 4 nor the Associated Press identified the
cabbie by name, but he is rumored to be of Arabian decent.
From [email protected] Mon Apr 8 12:47:42 PDT 1996
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Sunday, April 7, 1996
New Haven, Conn.
A taxi driver who charged a passenger on March 18th a surcharge of $5 for
a 10 minute wait at Tweed-New Haven airport had a formal complaint filed
against him. The OUTRAGED passenger also called New Haven Mayor John
DeStefano and the cab company.
The passenger?? None other than New Jersey Senator frank LautenBERG, the
richest j*w that side of the Mississippi River. LautenBERG owns
international ADP.
The cabbie was FIRED by Carolyn’s Checker Cab Co., owned by michael
WOLKOWITZ. Neither Channels 2, 4 nor the Associated Press identified the
cabbie by name, but he is rumored to be of Arabian decent.
From [email protected] Mon Apr 8 12:51:29 PDT 1996
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: rebbi yisroel TANNENBAUM said so. Read up on his good works. Better yet,
>: take his heeding, grab yo’ shekels & run to israel.
>
>Ah. Is this mystery rabbi also the source of your assertion that there
>are Chinese shoes in the pile at the Holocaust Museum?
No, that came from an Israeli author & scholar who believes the holocaust
is just an attention-getting get rich scheme. Of course, I don’t believe
that for a minute.
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>Why have you posted the smae story twice?
>from Caesar
>[email protected]
I didn’t.
AArdvark
I didn’t.
AArdvark
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Subject: U.S. $$$ to Murder Chechens
Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
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Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
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Subject: U.S. $$$ to Murder Chechens
Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
*****************************************************
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Subject: U.S. $$$ to Murder Chechens
Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
*****************************************************
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Subject: Clinton: kill Muslims, save jews
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Subject: U.S. $$$ to Murder Chechens
Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
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Boycott America Online, the Fed Snoop Service!!
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: NJ banning ALL handguns-ALERT
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Subject: ALERT HANDGUN BAN!!
Coalition of New Jersey Sportsmen
Richard Miller – Chairman
2316 Lyde Place Scotch Plains, NJ 07076 Phone: 908-889-5907 Fax:
908-889-5931
URGENT!!! DISTRIBUTE – COPY – FAX!!! URGENT!!! DISTRIBUTE – COPY –
FAX!!!
ATTENTION ALL LAW ABIDING FIREARMS OWNERS
25 Members of the New Jersey Legislature have introduced a HANDGUN
BAN!!!!
A1869 has been introduced by Assemblywoman Shirley Turner (609) 530-3277
and
Assemblyman Reed Gusciora (609) 292-0500, both D- 15th District.
The text of the bill is not yet available but the following description
is
on the legislative computer in Trenton: “Prohibits the Sale and
Possession
of certain handguns called ‘Saturday Night Specials'”
There has NEVER been a handgun manufactured with the model designation
“Saturday Night Special”. This bill likely includes a vague definition
which could outlaw the possession of ALL HANDGUNS in the State of New
Jersey. Unlike the Florio ban on certain semi-automatic firearms a
prohibition on the continued possession of handguns is ENFORCEABLE since
EVERY handgun lawfully purchased since January 1, 1967 is REGISTERED
with
the New Jersey State Police. All the authorities need to do is send
State
Troopers DOOR TO DOOR TO CONFISCATE YOUR GUNS!!!! THIS WILL HAPPEN IF
YOU
DO NOT ACT NOW!!!
This bill was originally introduced in the 1994-1995 Legislative Session
by
Senators Richard Codey D-27 and John Adler D-6 who are determined to BAN
ALL
lawful ownership of firearms in the State of New Jersey. DO NOT TAKE
THIS
THREAT TO YOUR RIGHTS LIGHTLY!!
All firearms owners MUST call their legislators as well as the following
sponsors to let them know that we are aware of this attempt to prohibit
the
ownership of ALL handguns in the State of New Jersey. Remind these
noble
minded legislators that in order to lawfully purchase a handgun in New
Jersey a person must first obtain a “Permit to Purchase a Handgun” from
his
/ her Chief of Police. These are only issued after a background check
which
includes an FBI fingerprint check. Lawfully owned firearms are not now
and
have not been a problem in the past in New Jersey. Be polite but firm
as
you oppose this gross infringement on your Constitutional Rights!
The following Assemblymembers have signed on as Co-Sponsors:
Assemblywoman Nilsa Cruz – Perez, D-5 (609) 541-1251
Assemblywoman Arline Friscia, D -19
Assemblyman John Wisniewski, D-19 (908) 316-1885
Assemblyman Jerry Green, D- 17 (908) 561-5757 FAX (908) 561-
5547
Assemblyman Peter Barnes, D-18 (908) 287-5609
Assemblyman LeRoy Jones, D-27 (201) 266-2839 FAX (201) 266-
2842
Assemblyman Louis Greenwald, D-6 (609) 428-3343
Assemblyman Alfred Steele, D-35 (201) 942-7755
Assemblyman Joseph Charles, D-31 (201) 432-1400
Assemblyman John V. Kelly, R-36 (201) 667-6123 FAX (201)
667-9614
Assemblyman Willie Brown, D-29 (201) 926-4494 FAX (201) 923-
4079
Assemblyman Jackie Mattison, D-29 (201) 705-3595
Assemblyman Louis Romano, D -33 (201) 868-7757
Assemblyman Joseph J. Roberts, D – 5 (609) 742-7600
Assemblyman Tom Smith, R-11 (908) 776-8628 FAX (908) 776-
9549
Assemblyman Raul Garcia, D-33 (201) 863-3355
Assemblyman Wilfredo Caraballo, D- 28 (201) 762-0044
Assemblyman Joseph Doria, D-31 (201) 437-5150 FAX (201) 437-
1749
Assemblywoman Joan Quigley, D-32 (201) 217-4614
Assemblyman William Pascrell, D-35 (201) 942-7755
Assemblywoman Nia Gill, D-27 (201) 509-0388
Assemblyman Anthony Impreveduto, D-32 (201) 864-3232
Assemblyman Gerald Zecker, R-34 (201) 473-1915 FAX (201)
473-2174
The office of Legislative Services can be reached at 1-800-792-8630 and
can
provide mailing addresses.
All gunowners please send any negative information on the above
legislators
to Richard Miller.
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Subject: Australia contemplates NET censorship
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:09:01 GMT
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From: [email protected] (Matthew Gaylor)
Subject: Another Control Freak: Australian Broadcasting Authority
From: Online Services Investigation
Subject: ABA ON-LINE SERVICES INVESTIGATION
Organization: Australian Broadcasting Authority
ON-LINE SERVICES INVESTIGATION
The Australian Broadcasting Authority is conducting an investigation,
under direction from the Minister for Communications and the Arts, into
the content of on-line information and entertainment broadcasting
services, including those on the Internet, with a view to examining the
appropriateness of the development of codes of practice for those
services that, as far as possible, are in line with community standards.
The ABA is also looking at technological advances and service trends in
the provision of on-line information and entertainment services by the
broadcasting industry and the extent to which on-line information and
entertainment broadcasting services are accommodated by the Broadcasting
Services Act 1992.
Details of the ABA’s investigation, including terms of reference, an
issues paper and submissions received to date can be viewed at:
http://www.dca.gov.au/aba/hpcov.
While the closing date for submissions on the ABA’s issues paper was 16
February 1996, the ABA will be exercising discretion on the matter of
late submissions and urges those wishing to make a submission to do so
as
soon as possible. Submissions can be sent to [email protected] or by
post
to P.O. Box Q500, Queen Victoria Building, NSW 2000.
The ABA is due to report to the Minister by 30 June 1996.
For general inquiries about the investigation please contact Kaaren
Koomen, Manager On-line Services Investigation, ABA at [email protected]
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From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:25:30 PDT 1996
Article: 30487 of alt.revisionism
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: FBI exposes Supreme Court Justice
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:33:18 GMT
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:25:31 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: arthur GOLDBERG a traitor
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:32:50 GMT
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:25:32 PDT 1996
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Subject: why they must be banned from high places
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
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page A-15
Tulsa World
MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
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Tri-States was set up by the same phenomenon known as “Jews for the
Preservation of Firearms Ownership”, [JPFO], a conspiratorial group
pretending to be on the side Patriots, but in actuallity trying
faranticall to meatball Christian agendas. Ray Lampley was their fourth
victim, arrested last year by the Feds.
Hundreds of militias fell for the Tri-States’s offer to handle
communications nationally. Now we learn through open court testamony that
in fact their only agenda was to know what the militias were saying & to
pass that info on to the govt’.
The Cicero New (Armed) Militia warned five months ago not to trust ‘them’.
-Ed
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:40:33 PDT 1996
Article: 40676 of alt.conspiracy
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: jews & Communism
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:07:08 GMT
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the Russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:40:34 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: Supreme Court infected-FBI
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:06:49 GMT
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the Russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:40:35 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: Who can trust a j*w??
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:06:27 GMT
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the Russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:40:36 PDT 1996
Article: 40679 of alt.conspiracy
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: Justice GOLDBERG exposed by FBI
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:06:06 GMT
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the Russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:40:37 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: Justice GOLDBERG exposed by FBI
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:05:32 GMT
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 15:40:37 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
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Subject: U. S. taxpayers fund holocaust
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:04:40 GMT
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Subject: U.S. $$$ to Murder Chechens
Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
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Subject: Russian holocaust continues
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Subject: U.S. $$$ to Murder Chechens
Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
*****************************************************
Boycott America Online, the Fed Snoop Service!!
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Subject: slick Willie’s true colors
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:03:47 GMT
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Subject: U.S. $$$ to Murder Chechens
Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
*****************************************************
Boycott America Online, the Fed Snoop Service!!
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MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
*************************************************
Tri-States was set up by the same phenomenon known as “Jews for the
Preservation of Firearms Ownership”, [JPFO], a conspiratorial group
pretending to be on the side Patriots, but in actuallity trying
faranticall to meatball Christian agendas. Ray Lampley was their fourth
victim, arrested last year by the Feds.
Hundreds of militias fell for the Tri-States’s offer to handle
communications nationally. Now we learn through open court testamony that
in fact their only agenda was to know what the militias were saying & to
pass that info on to the govt’.
The Cicero New (Armed) Militia warned five months ago not to trust ‘them’.
-Ed
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MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
*************************************************888
Tri-States was set up by the same phenomenon known as “Jews for the
Preservation of Firearms Ownership”, [JPFO], a conspiratorial group
pretending to be on the side Patriots, but in actuallity trying
faranticall to meatball Christian agendas. Ray Lampley was their fourth
victim, arrested last year by the Feds.
Hundreds of militias fell for the Tri-States’s offer to handle
communications nationally. Now we learn through open court testamony that
in fact their only agenda was to know what the militias were saying & to
pass that info on to the govt’.
The Cicero New (Armed) Militia warned five months ago not to trust ‘them’.
-Ed
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Subject: subversion by the j*ws
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Tulsa World
MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
*************************************************888
Tri-States was set up by the same phenomenon known as “Jews for the
Preservation of Firearms Ownership”, [JPFO], a conspiratorial group
pretending to be on the side Patriots, but in actuallity trying
faranticall to meatball Christian agendas. Ray Lampley was their fourth
victim, arrested last year by the Feds.
Hundreds of militias fell for the Tri-States’s offer to handle
communications nationally. Now we learn through open court testamony that
in fact their only agenda was to know what the militias were saying & to
pass that info on to the govt’.
The Cicero New (Armed) Militia warned five months ago not to trust ‘them’.
-Ed
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MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
************************************************
Tri-States was incepted by that nefarious group known as JPFO, jews for
the preservation of firearms ownership, set up to con Patriots into
thinking they were an ally. Hundreds of militias fell for the scam,
sending communiques through them for national distribution. In fact, the
jews were honing in on Christian & Black militias, with Ray Lampley being
their fourth victim before the court testamony exposed JPFO & Tri-States.
Learn your lesson well. Their allegiance is NEVER to the US of A nor her
citizens!!!
-Ed
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 18:30:26 PDT 1996
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Subject: Jews subvert militias
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:38:38 GMT
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Tulsa World
MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
************************************************
Tri-States was incepted by that nefarious group known as JPFO, jews for
the preservation of firearms ownership, set up to con Patriots into
thinking they were an ally. Hundreds of militias fell for the scam,
sending communiques through them for national distribution. In fact, the
jews were honing in on Christian & Black militias, with Ray Lampley being
their fourth victim before the court testamony exposed JPFO & Tri-States.
Learn your lesson well. Their allegiance is NEVER to the US of A nor her
citizens!!!
-Ed
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Subject: ALERT HANDGUN BAN!!
Coalition of New Jersey Sportsmen
Richard Miller – Chairman
2316 Lyde Place Scotch Plains, NJ 07076 Phone: 908-889-5907 Fax:
908-889-5931
URGENT!!! DISTRIBUTE – COPY – FAX!!! URGENT!!! DISTRIBUTE – COPY –
FAX!!!
ATTENTION ALL LAW ABIDING FIREARMS OWNERS
25 Members of the New Jersey Legislature have introduced a HANDGUN
BAN!!!!
A1869 has been introduced by Assemblywoman Shirley Turner (609) 530-3277
and
Assemblyman Reed Gusciora (609) 292-0500, both D- 15th District.
The text of the bill is not yet available but the following description
is
on the legislative computer in Trenton: “Prohibits the Sale and
Possession
of certain handguns called ‘Saturday Night Specials'”
There has NEVER been a handgun manufactured with the model designation
“Saturday Night Special”. This bill likely includes a vague definition
which could outlaw the possession of ALL HANDGUNS in the State of New
Jersey. Unlike the Florio ban on certain semi-automatic firearms a
prohibition on the continued possession of handguns is ENFORCEABLE since
EVERY handgun lawfully purchased since January 1, 1967 is REGISTERED
with
the New Jersey State Police. All the authorities need to do is send
State
Troopers DOOR TO DOOR TO CONFISCATE YOUR GUNS!!!! THIS WILL HAPPEN IF
YOU
DO NOT ACT NOW!!!
This bill was originally introduced in the 1994-1995 Legislative Session
by
Senators Richard Codey D-27 and John Adler D-6 who are determined to BAN
ALL
lawful ownership of firearms in the State of New Jersey. DO NOT TAKE
THIS
THREAT TO YOUR RIGHTS LIGHTLY!!
All firearms owners MUST call their legislators as well as the following
sponsors to let them know that we are aware of this attempt to prohibit
the
ownership of ALL handguns in the State of New Jersey. Remind these
noble
minded legislators that in order to lawfully purchase a handgun in New
Jersey a person must first obtain a “Permit to Purchase a Handgun” from
his
/ her Chief of Police. These are only issued after a background check
which
includes an FBI fingerprint check. Lawfully owned firearms are not now
and
have not been a problem in the past in New Jersey. Be polite but firm
as
you oppose this gross infringement on your Constitutional Rights!
The following Assemblymembers have signed on as Co-Sponsors:
Assemblywoman Nilsa Cruz – Perez, D-5 (609) 541-1251
Assemblywoman Arline Friscia, D -19
Assemblyman John Wisniewski, D-19 (908) 316-1885
Assemblyman Jerry Green, D- 17 (908) 561-5757 FAX (908) 561-
5547
Assemblyman Peter Barnes, D-18 (908) 287-5609
Assemblyman LeRoy Jones, D-27 (201) 266-2839 FAX (201) 266-
2842
Assemblyman Louis Greenwald, D-6 (609) 428-3343
Assemblyman Alfred Steele, D-35 (201) 942-7755
Assemblyman Joseph Charles, D-31 (201) 432-1400
Assemblyman John V. Kelly, R-36 (201) 667-6123 FAX (201)
667-9614
Assemblyman Willie Brown, D-29 (201) 926-4494 FAX (201) 923-
4079
Assemblyman Jackie Mattison, D-29 (201) 705-3595
Assemblyman Louis Romano, D -33 (201) 868-7757
Assemblyman Joseph J. Roberts, D – 5 (609) 742-7600
Assemblyman Tom Smith, R-11 (908) 776-8628 FAX (908) 776-
9549
Assemblyman Raul Garcia, D-33 (201) 863-3355
Assemblyman Wilfredo Caraballo, D- 28 (201) 762-0044
Assemblyman Joseph Doria, D-31 (201) 437-5150 FAX (201) 437-
1749
Assemblywoman Joan Quigley, D-32 (201) 217-4614
Assemblyman William Pascrell, D-35 (201) 942-7755
Assemblywoman Nia Gill, D-27 (201) 509-0388
Assemblyman Anthony Impreveduto, D-32 (201) 864-3232
Assemblyman Gerald Zecker, R-34 (201) 473-1915 FAX (201)
473-2174
The office of Legislative Services can be reached at 1-800-792-8630 and
can
provide mailing addresses.
All gunowners please send any negative information on the above
legislators
to Richard Miller.
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>From “USA Today”, found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm
____________________________________________________
Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a
Supreme Court justice, Arthur GOLDBERG held a special place in the files
of the FBI: He was targeted for “custodial detention” as a Communist just
before the United States entered World War II.
In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau’s Chicago field
office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was “closely associated with
Communist leaders in Illinois.”
The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released
to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request.
Goldberg was President Kennedy’s Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy
named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become
ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81.
Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg’s law partner in the
1950s, recalls, “These files always concerned Arthur…”
But in the prewar “red scare,” it was almost inevitable that Goldberg
would attract Hoover’s attention, says Marquette University historian
Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI.
“He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red
flags ,” Theoharis says.
The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg’s
Communist connections.
He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a “National Conference on
Constitutional Liberties of America,” the file notes, and he
served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors.
And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg
was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper
employees.
In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served
with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from
1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups.
[ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having
turned over American secrets to the russians!-Ed]
By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of
Industrial Organizations.
In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a “very unusual” meeting with
assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past
bits of information in his file.
During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor
secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the
allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive
attributes were emphasized. The FBI’s ability to make or break appointees
was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence,
Charns says.
“He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he
became a justice,” Mikva says.
At 800 pages, Goldberg’s file is not unusually long, Theoharis says.
“Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that
generates a lot of pages.”
By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 18:32:50 PDT 1996
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Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
*****************************************************
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Subject: Your tax dollars at work, shekel style
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:42:04 GMT
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Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
*****************************************************
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Foreign Correspondent
Inside Track On World News
By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster
Eric Margolis
AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA’S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS
NEW YORK – When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen
people’s
seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250
years
of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny
Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers.
Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin
publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him
re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire
and
peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected
Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev.
But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin – except perhaps for President
Clinton.
In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president,
declaring
the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.’ Russia’s
military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery,
rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed
`unfriendly.’
When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The
world
failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably
suffered
more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin
sent
75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For
the
past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen
to
regain their independence.
After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose
goal
was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army
in
December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens
and
laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared’ after being
arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations
accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and
widespread torture.
Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia’s criminal war in
Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for
Yeltsin
through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even
publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia’s need to
`maintain its territorial integrity.’
Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow
that US-Russian relations were `excellent,’ – at the very moment Russian
forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While
Clinton
anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he
remained
mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more
civilians.
The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading
Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,’ wrote recently of America’s disgraceful
silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one
Soviet
dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet
embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were
condemned.’ Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to
allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42,
000
Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion.
A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all
Chechen are `bandits,’ and `Muslim terrorists.’ Traditional Russian
hatred
of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents
within
the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking
a
page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a
murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.’
Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces
national
break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for
handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia’s southern edge,
like
Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia’s other autonomous-minded
regions,
like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory.
It’s time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus.
Set
the Chechens free.
@copyright Eric Margolis 1996
*****************************************************
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page A-15
Tulsa World
MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
************************************************
Tri-States was incepted by that nefarious group known as JPFO, jews for
the preservation of firearms ownership, set up to con Patriots into
thinking they were an ally. Hundreds of militias fell for the scam,
sending communiques through them for national distribution. In fact, the
jews were honing in on Christian & Black militias, with Ray Lampley being
their fourth victim before the court testamony exposed JPFO & Tri-States.
Learn your lesson well. Their allegiance is NEVER to the US of A nor her
citizens!!!
-Ed
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 19:27:53 PDT 1996
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Subject: fake militia telephony center
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Tulsa World
MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
************************************************
Tri-States was incepted by that nefarious group known as JPFO, jews for
the preservation of firearms ownership, set up to con Patriots into
thinking they were an ally. Hundreds of militias fell for the scam,
sending communiques through them for national distribution. In fact, the
jews were honing in on Christian & Black militias, with Ray Lampley being
their fourth victim before the court testamony exposed JPFO & Tri-States.
Learn your lesson well. Their allegiance is NEVER to the US of A nor her
citizens!!!
-Ed
From [email protected] Wed Apr 10 19:27:54 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: militias scammed by jews for the preservati
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Sunday – April 7, 1996
page A-15
Tulsa World
MILITIA COORDINATOR ON FEDERAL PAYROLL
Testimony reveals that a South Dakota man
who operates a militia communication center
is paid $1.775 each month to keep the FBI informed.
Bill Swindell
World Staff Writer
The FBI is paying a militia member $1,775.00 a month to run a South
Dakota
communication center that an agent says will let the federal government
better understand the workings of the burgeoning movement and possibly
prevent tragedies.
That relationship was revealed fully during testimony for the bombing
conspiracy trial of three members of the Universal Church of God that
began
last week in Muskogee.
John Parsons is a Tri-State Militia member based in Burke, S.D. Parsons
testified Wednesday that Willie “Ray” Lampley — one of the defendants —
came to South Dakota in August and asked him to help blow up buildings.
Parsons also revealed how as a former truck driver he came to run the
Tri-State’s Communication Information Center and what role the FBI plays
in
assisting a movement that some perceive as hostile to the federal
government.
“We feel we’re here to defend the Constitution,” he said.
Parsons has run the center, in an office building on the main street of
Burke, for less than a year. He said the center has two phone lines,
three
phones, two computers, two faxes and an 800 number. The center is also
on
the Internet.
Parsons said he is connected to 900 militia-type units in 48 states.
The center’s purpose is to check out the many rumors that militia members
phone, fax or e-mail in and — sometimes with the federal government’s
help
— discern if there is any truth to them and then relay that back to
the
militias.
Parsons testified that he sold some personal items to help fund the
center
and has gotten some donations.
Parsons also is paid $1,775.00 in cash each month — which is reported to
the Internal Revenue Service — by the FBI said Special Agent William
Grode, who is based in Rapid City, S.D. Parsons has been paid for seven
months, Grode testified during the Muskegee trial.
If not for the payments, Parsons testified, he would not be able to run
the
center on a full-time basis and would have to return to truck driving
to
earn a living.
Under cross examination by defense attorneys, Grode defended the
government’s payments to Parsons.
“The reason (for) trying to keep him in there is I feel he has become a
claming voice for these militias across the country,” Grode testified.
Grode said his relationship with Parsons has allowed the federal
government
to diffuse three possibly dangerous situations. This is the first time
the
two have testified at a trial about their efforts.
Parsons also told the court that he learned of a death threat against
Lampley that allegedly came from the Texas Constitutional Militia and
passed it to Grode. Grode testified that he relayed that information to
an
FBI agent in Muskogee, who warned Lampley about the threat.
Grode said the FBI had asked him to make contacts within the militia
movement after the Oklahoma City bombing “to understand better what’s
going
on.”
Grode paid Parsons for a trip the militia member took throughout the
Southwest to determine the validity of a threat to bomb a building in New
Mexico.
Parsons testified that he made many contacts in his seven-state journey.
He
was paid $500.00 a week for three weeks on that trip, as well as money
for
telephone expenses, Grode testified.
“We have become friends,” Parsons testified of his relationship with
Grode.
But, he added that the two don’t work together.
Grode said there are some things that Parsons does not discuss with him,
including rosters, training sites or meetings of militia groups. The
agent
added that he does not consider Parsons an informant.
“It’s a communication bridge. ….We discuss philosophies,” Parsons
testified.
Grode gives Parsons a view on how law enforcement officials may perceive
a
particular issue or rumor and Parsons said he gives the agent a militia
perspective on topics in which the federal government may be interested.
Parsons said he did not agree with Lampley’s philosophy and that he had
arranged a meeting between a sheriff — who was working undercover — and
the defendant.
“(Lampley’s) philosophy and agenda was against the constitutional agenda
of
the militias,” Parsons testified.
The Muskogee trial resumes Monday and is expected to last until the end
of
the month.
************************************************
Tri-States was incepted by that nefarious group known as JPFO, jews for
the preservation of firearms ownership, set up to con Patriots into
thinking they were an ally. Hundreds of militias fell for the scam,
sending communiques through them for national distribution. In fact, the
jews were honing in on Christian & Black militias, with Ray Lampley being
their fourth victim before the court testamony exposed JPFO & Tri-States.
Learn your lesson well. Their allegiance is NEVER to the US of A nor her
citizens!!!
-Ed
From [email protected] Sat Apr 13 11:11:45 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected] (A Huber)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: the truth shall set Brando free
Date: 13 Apr 1996 05:08:52 GMT
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Subject: Brando grows up.
Several days ago, Marlon Brando came under attack for saying simiply that
“Hollywood is run by j*ws.” The statement was made on the ‘larry KING
Live’ show. He was concerned that the multitudes of movies & TV shows
written, produced & directed by j*ws routinely show Christians, Blacks &
Asians as violent slime sucking pond scum, but never show a j*w as a
“kike”.
Radical fascist rabbi harvey FIELDS said his comments were “sloppy…anti-
semitism”. abraham FOXMAN, nat’l director of the White-bashing ADL of
b’nai b’rith said that Brando’s comments were “utterly false” and called
on him to apologize.
Brando, who sent his kids to j*wish shule, is hardly an anti-semite. He
has also been active in the civil rights movement. He called the j*ws
“amazing people”.
No crap, Marlon! And if we were to take a scientific poll, for instance,
by documenting all the sit-coms & movies on ,say, Channel 4 over a 24
hour period, would we find he was telling the truth??
Brando also said j*ws should “have a greater sensitivity about the issue
of people who are suffering.” This author might add that most of that
suffering is CAUSED by the j*ws.
Traditionally, j*wish producers have ‘silently’ bashed Christians by
having bimbos & perpetrators of violence wear 4″ high crosses as in
Christina Applegate’s character on “Married With Children” and the
terrorist leader’s
character in “Under Siege”. They have also slurred American Blacks by
stereotyping them as drug dealers & assaulters of women.
Brando is joining the ever growing ranks of Americans of all walks of
life who are fed up with the destruction being perpetrated on society by
j*ws. Other well known objectors to j*wish propaganda include comedian
Pat Cooper & film maker Spike Lee. Cooper’s career took sharp turnbacks
when he refused to ‘cooperate’ with the thievery by j*wish agents &
producers. Spike Lee said in Nashville, while addressing a group of Black
students, “That’s where the battle is being fought; that is how you
control people’s minds. As we move toward the year 2000, the most
powerful nations are not those that have nuclear bombs, but those that
control the media.” Lee was in Nashville this week to shoot scenes for a
movie “Get on the Bus.”
From [email protected] Sun Apr 14 11:20:30 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Christianity, Should We Respect It?
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>:>Kim,
>:>
>:>No apologies are needed.
>:>
>:>I am a Christian and I feel the same way you do! Jesus said we humans
>:>need to love God with all our hearts and minds, and we must love
>:>each other as we love ourselves.
Ummmm……. But what do we do with j*ws?? They don’t love themselves.
Everyone else has but ONE God, albeit we call him by many names.