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Subject: ACHMED HUBER WARNING

To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/20
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 10:11 PM

Just doing some research, don’t mind me….

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/23
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 10:22 AM

Andy, you’re basically a ‘good egg’.
Perhaps you jump too quickly to criticise.
Ponder how much more impact your posts can deliver should
they be definitive without critical attack!!

AArdvark

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Subject: ACHMED HUBER WARNING

To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/23
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 11:46 AM

I’ve got bigger fish to fry now, Achmed, thank you very
much.

P.S. I’m on to you…

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Subject: ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED

To: ALL Date: 03/10
From: FGWF47A RAYMOND NICKLIN Time: 3:08 AM

Date: Tue, 7 MAR 1995 00:36:17 GMT
From: ostrovsky victor
Newsgroups: ab.politics, alt.bbs.lists,
alt.books.tom-clancy, alt.conspiracy,
alt.conspiracy.area51, alt.conspiracy.jfk,
alt.conspiracy.nhs,
alt.culture.egyptian, alt.culture.www, alt.desert-shild
Subject: New <> home page

The Mossad, Israel’s secret intelligence agency.
A new www home page by Victor Ostrovsky.
Look inside the dark corners of the Mossad. See it’s methods
of recruitment, liaison, organization and more.
The place to look is
http:/www.phoenix.ca/mossad
See you in the Mossad.
Enjoy
Victor
———–
This was on the NET from Victor Ostrovsky, “ex-Mossad
Officer” and author on Mossad ops.
>>Ray<<

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/23
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:47 PM

I hope you caught the article today on Prodigy about the
CIA!

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/23
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:55 PM

I hope you caught the article today on Prodigy about the
CIA!

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/24
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 6:38 AM

Asa matter of fact I didn’t. What

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To: ALL Date: 03/10
From: FGWF47A RAYMOND NICKLIN Time: 3:19 AM

RE: Ennes

Forwarded from James Ennes (in part)…(USS Liberty)..
Curiously, that may soon end. After 27 years, no one who
has ever looked into the attack with an open mind has been
able to accept the Israeli story. And now even the Israelis
seem to be abandoning it. A new book, “The Secret War
Against the Jews,” by John Loftus and Mark Aarons ADMITS
that the attack was deliberate. They have finally abandoned
the lame claim that it was a mistake. Now they have
concocted a new story. Now they claim it was NECESSARY to
attack the Liberty in order to save Israel because,
according to the authors, Liberty was spying on Israel for
the benefit of the Egyptians.
********
For a new book about the coverup itself, I recommend THE USS
LIBERTY: DISSENTING HISTORY VS. OFFICIAL HISTORY by John
Borne, Ph.D. Dr. Borne won his doctorate in history last
year with his thesis about the cover-up. It is powerful
reading, available from University Microfiche 1 800 521-0600
(order number 9411078) and soon to be available from
Selective Communications (206 814-2272).
>>Ray<<

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/23
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 10:22 AM

“Envy of those who prosper” oftimes seems to be the
underlying cry of the liberals. Yet THEY don’t part with
their OWN sheckles. They use OURS.Makes me wonder about
their REAL agenda!

AArdvark

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/23
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 11:49 AM

OK, Hilda, next question: why don’t you support an
independent homeland for Palestinians? I mean, if Jews
deserve a homeland (which we both agree they do), then why
not other ethno-linguistic groups? How do you feel about
the Chechen uprising? Northern Ireland? It seems to me any
self-respecting Zionist should support non-fascist
nationalist movements anywhere, since Zionism itself is a
non-fascist nationalist movement.

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/23
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:59 PM

I think we should be on guard againt ideologies that
teach the common good supercedes individual rights.
The attacks against the militia’s is a good example of how
some would subvert our individual rights in favor of the
common good. The folks in the militia’s are not violating
anyones rights and are simply exercising their right to keep
and bear arms and peacefully assemble. However, some
groups, such as the ADL and Klanwatch, are asking the
government to ban the militia’s and montior the members, all
in the name of what they percieve as the common good.
I have a copy of the Klanwatch propaganda on militia’s,
and it would make Goebbels proud!

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/23
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:59 PM

Socialism requires a certain amount of statism, and in any
statist system it only takes the wrong people to come to
power for atrocities to occur.

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/23
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 1:12 PM

I don’t know a lot about libertarians either.

In my chart of the America political spectrum, the
greatest degree of statism occurs at 0 degrees, and the
least amount of statism occurs at 180 degrees. The level of
statism decreases on both sides of the circle as one heads
towards 180 degrees.

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/23
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:09 PM

So what system, therefore, allows dictators NOT to come to
power? I can’t think of any system of gov’t that fully
safeguards against a dictator investing supreme power in the
state. After all, Hitler was at first a democratically
elected official–he only became a dictator and statist
afterwards.

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To: HDDC43B NANCY JONES Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:38 PM

Why should it NOT?

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:38 PM

Hilda, the mask if off?

So what would you say to those who emulate your “in a word,
no” response to the question – if jews merit their own
homeland.

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:39 PM

Andy, to ensure that dictators do not attain the power they
seek, one must first PROMOTE individualism. Collective
values are only a precursor for collective hysteria. There
is no such thing as a ‘common good’ when it comes to freedom
of thought. I have no problem with the ‘common good’ being
defined as the government’s involvement in the defense of
our nation, or in the supply of essential services, but once
you allow ANY SINGLE GROUP to influence your thoughts to
promote a single agenda, you are on the slippery slope to
collective chaos. This is why I find the actions of the ADL
and organizations like it, to be so reprehensible in their
afforts to force-feed their values upon the rest of us.

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:39 PM

I told you before, there are many more of the zionist
fascist type, than there are not.

Fascism is not dead. It is now hides behind the facade of
zionism.

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/23
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 11:40 PM

Under the origianl intent of the U.S. Constitution each
state was to be an independant republic with the federal
government having limited power and no standing army. Under
that system with no central government and no standing
federal army, any future dictator or political group would
have to gain power in all or a majority of the states in
order rule the entire country.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From The Lost Peace, by Harold Butler, c1941:

“This collectivist philosophy is one of the most deeply
rooted German traits….The herd spirit is stronger among
the Germans than among any other western people. The great
majority have never valued personal liberty, perhaps
because, as the Nazi leaders assert, they have never felt
the want of it.”

From A Time For Decision, by Sumner Wells, c1944:

“The unification of Germany, with the centralization of
all power in Berlin, has made possible the building up of
Germany’s destructive power…It has destroyed the
opportunity, and even the capacity, for individual
thinking…The abolition of local government with the
substitution of authoritarian rule from Berlin destroyed the
last vestiges of regional autonomy….and completed the
obliteration of German individual liberty.” end quote

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Subject: ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED

To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/24
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 0:38 AM

As usual, you don’t answer my question, but answer with
quotes. I’ll state the question again: what form of
government is best suited to avoid the rise of
totalitarianism?

BTW, it’s the Articles of Confederation to which you refer.
THe U.S. Constitution CLEARLY defines a federal government,
as well as a Bill of Rights to assure that no state can
subvert federal law.

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/24
From: HDDC43B NANCY JONES Time: 2:33 AM

Of course, you would…lay a wreath on a Palestinian unnamed
soldier..but I would not want to — I’m sorry guys die over
there….I’d love for it to stop – immediately….maybe,
with luck it will by winter….

Well – maybe?

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/24
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 6:35 AM

Because there already is a Palestinian state by the name of
Jordan. Both Israel and Jordan were carved out of the
original Paslestine mandate with Jordan getting the lion
share,. But you already know this. 85% to be precise.
Everytime the Palestinian population grows and wants more
does Israel then have to lop off more land and hand it to
them? Israel has no responsibility for the socalled
Palestinian refugees because her Arab neighbors chose to let
them fester in camps at UN and US expense rather than
integrate them into their economies as Israel did for the
refugees from Iraq, Iran, Yemen and etc. Hilda.

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/24
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 6:38 AM

I don’t as whit to what you AS want.

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To: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Date: 03/15
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 1:22 AM

contd..

You said, “(when you) start talking about excessive
Jewish influence of the media (your MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE
thread of this summer), then that is Jew-bashing.”
As you imply that the “MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE” thread was
written to highlight, criticize, and berrate the
influence of Jews in the media, allow me to CORRECT
you and refresh your memory. Luckily I have those posts
in archive, IN ANTICIPATION of just such allegations being
made some time in the future – from someone such
as you, who is more interested in “building a case”,
than presenting the facts. You have lived up to my
expectations. But here is my response.

MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE was a subject I coined to illustrate
the bias within our media – against Arabs and for the Jews.
My posts in that subject studied the reporting of the
Hebron Massacre over a period of time in the Washington
Post and other journals. I demonstrated quite conclusively
that it was a good example of a CONCERTED, AND DELIBERATE
effort to minimize the crimes committed by Israel against
arabs, while the opposite happened when the victims
were Jewish. In support of my thesis, I quoted from
newspapers, radio, and TV reports beginning on the day
of the massacre when first reports over the initial
48 hour period indicated that the casualties numbered 64.
Over time, these numbers gradually decreased. As one rarely
miscounts bodies of the dead at a figure HIGHER than
what they really are at the scene of the crime, such a
‘down size’ is hard to explain, and it never was. One can
imagine the death count going UP, as some of the wounded
succumb to their injuries…but DOWN???? A case of media
manipulation? A clear possibility.
Given the unassailable evidence that our media does play
the ‘bad arab good jew’ game, why are you so uptight that
I have pointed it out?!

In another example you said that I had SINGLED out the
Jews for criticism. You provided the following example:
“And the Jews for their chutzpah, their persistence, their
smarts, their unquestioning loyalty to Israel….

I reviewed the post in question, and not surprisingly,
you did not post the quote in the manner written.
While you complained that I ‘SINGLED OUT’ the Jews, you
conveniently IGNORED the preceeding statements in the SAME
paragraph that dealt with the English, the Japanese,
ourselves, the Arabs, AND the Jews. Hardly a case for
“singling out”, as you deliberately and falsely claimed.
And if you read the post again, you will recognize that
the issue being discussed were the ‘traits’ of several
different peoples. NOT a CRITICISM of Jews all by their
lonesome. So while none of our English, Japanese, Arab, or
American readers, have voiced similar objections,
one cannot ignore the fact that you, as a Jew, have found
it unacceptable to be part of a larger group of people all
being discussed in the same vein – yet you complain??!

Either you should consider yourself as part of a world
community, and take you lumps as they come to the rest
of us, OR stop complaining when you are looked as a
breed apart. You cannot have it both ways. You want
to be IMMUNE from the kind of scrutiny that we as
Americans impose upon EVERYBODY else, yet you want
to enjoy that privilege in anonimity! Just how do you
propose we do that?

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To: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:39 PM

Do you pay attention when you talk – ever?

You said that making derogatory remarks about Muslims is an
‘American problem, not a Jewish problem’.

Getouttahere! Anything else that Jews have been doing you
would like to lay on Americans? Iam not surprised that you
did, – although that does make my most consistent argument.
……They cant do ANYTHING wrong, can they?

While I agree that you cant blame the entire community for
the actions of a few, what about for the actions of MOST?

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/23
From: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Time: 10:44 PM

Sorry case

Derogatory remarks about muslims are an American problem,
which I think needs resolution. I can think of several
films that stereotyped Egyptians and/or Arabs badly.

You just cannot blame that on the Jews. Or is that what you
are using as evidence for your theory that Jews control the
media?

sjl

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/18
From: GBRT32A PATRICK GROFF Time: 10:28 PM

Why would you address Mr. Levine as “you guys”?
you did say that you address Mr. Levine as a single person,
as oppossed to his representing all Jews.

casey sez; in a note to Stephen Levine dated 03/17 0:48
“I already DO treat you as individuals.”
Reallly?? then way the following?
“What I find most offensive about all this, is that this is
a
deliberate and diabolical attempt by organized Jewry, to
deceive the American people in a very methodical and
reasoned manner.”
“Its not just that the people here ‘do not know’, but that
those who DO know, are portrayed as lunatics, antisemites,
or just plain liars.”

I have to appreciate your ability to stick your foot in your
mouth and swizzle it around for a while, and thank you for
proving your own point, I appreciate that most of all,
especally the part where you call yourself a “antisemite”,
that to me was that special touch, that self admittance is
the crowning touch. ROFL ROFL

Oh, almost forgot but “irregardless”?? give me a break and
let me educate you, IRREGARDLESS, REGARDLESS; and incorrect
or humorous usage, and I know that you weren’t being
humorous, far to comsumed for that.. ROFL,ROFL,ROFLMAO…

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To: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:39 PM

The issue is not what you ‘like’, BUT THE LEVEL OF HYSTERIA
you generate when it comes around.

Blacks, asians, Christians, and assorted gentry have
exhibited a remarkable tolerance for such generalizations.As
your example pointed out, the worst the black guy did,was to
short-tip the waitress. In a similar situation one can only
hypothesize what a jewish patron would have done.But let me
give you a scenario that is based in reality. He would have
called the manager,and berated him for having an antisemitic
employee. Then he would write a letter of protest to the
local newspaper, and get the guy fired. Same difference???!

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/23
From: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Time: 10:54 PM

Case

Remeber what happened to Jimmy The Greek. All because he
claimed blacks were better athletes than whites because
they had slightly different arrangement of musculature.

While Jimmy did not know what he was talking about, you
consider his firing an example of “remarkable tolerance”?

sjl

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Subject: CASEY – A CASE.

To: ALL Date: 03/12
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 8:16 PM

I am really interested in who shut down this board and
topic, subject etc. I have had Casey getting so personal
that there is little time for the other hate stuff. Oh
well, Prodigy folks, you own the system. Me, If we no
longer pick on Casey, then so what. Casey is noone anyway.

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Subject: CASEY – A CASE.

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/23
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 11:39 AM

casey you ought to quit when you are ahead. Bye again.

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Subject: CASEY – A CASE.

To: FCRF11A DON KORY Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:52 PM

Iam ahead?

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Subject: CASEY – A CASE.

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/23
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 11:06 PM

You’re asking me????? CAAAAAAAASSSSSSIIIIII! Qu’est que
— oh what the devil, I am tired of this crap. Most of the
folks out there are meatballs anyway. The only way one
motivates a meatball is to put it at the top of an inclined
plane. Rave on Casey! Sayonara!

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Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: ALL Date: 03/19
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:18 PM

This month’ list of Heroes continues:

Marqis Anthony Kennon
Scott Johnson
State Supreme Court Justice Politan
SS Action Group

Keep up the good work,men!!

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Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/23
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 10:28 AM

Thankyou all for your e-mail & suggestions for additions to
the several indexes ( indices). I’ll compile the data &
after verification will put your suggestions on the list.

AArdvark

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To: GBRT32A PATRICK GROFF Date: 03/23
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 10:28 AM

“Anti-heroes” of the AArdvark??
They probably belong on the other index, IF you can verify
the authenticity of same. Try the “Criminals” listing.

AArdvark

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/23
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 11:53 AM

Hey coward, why don’t you explain to everyone on line
exactly what the “SS Action Group” is? Or are you too
afraid to show your real colors?

I’ll give y’all a clue…think of those first two letters…

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/23
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:09 PM

Oh and by the way, I’m on to you…..

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Subject: INDICES BY AARDVARK

To: ALL Date: 03/19
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:18 PM

This month’s list of criminals continues:

Jeffrey Wolf
The Bronfmans
Rensburger
Ivan Boesky

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To: GBRT32A PATRICK GROFF Date: 03/23
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 10:22 AM

Apparently it is YOU who can’t get with the inuendo.
Think BEFORE you act, Joker!

AArdvark

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/23
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 10:36 AM

Thanks everyone for your e-mail & suggestions. They will be
added to the list if I can verify the newspaper reporting of
same.
Again, thanks

AArdvark

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: CFGT82A AARON DERMAN Date: 02/26
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 2:48 AM

Aaron,
the palestinians are not required to ‘endear’ themselves to
the Jews for anything, any more than the Jews should have
endeared themselves to the Nazis to avoid the Holocaust. If
for no other reason, it was because some Jews DID try to do
just that, that they were led like lambs to the slaughter.

Iam astonished at your naive suggestion that the
Palestinians should now learn to ‘endear themselves’ to the
Jews. On the contrary, they should make it as unpleasant as
they possibly can for the Israelis to continue their
occupation. They owe that to their own people. Anything else
will not only ensure their continued enslavement at the
hands of the Jews, but send a signal to other renegade
nations around the world, that if sufficient pressure is
exerted upon a people, they can be eventually subdued.

It is the OPPOSITE message that we as Americans should
ensure that the world will hear. We should make it clear
that aggression, and occupation will NOT be tolerated at any
price – no matter WHO the perpetrators might be. EVEN if
they be Jews …. unless you believe that Jews merit a
special dispensation that exempts them from such resistance,
or retaliation, regardless of their own actions.

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/23
From: CFGT82A AARON DERMAN Time: 8:39 PM

Casey-
I absolutely consider a rational aproach to meeting the
needs of the Palestinians imperative. But, I should be
careful here. I didn’t grow up or at any time live in
Israel. You may want to ask an Israeli the same question.
I think they would agree with me.

The biggest problem I see with finding a rational way to
address the Palestinian problem is this. Every case the
Palestinians make for the sake of their people is based on
de-ligitimizing that of the Israelis. They have some very
strong cases to adress. But, just like they say they can’t>
be at peace with the Israelis because of the violations of
their rights. The Israelis can’t be at peace with people
who show every indication of wanting to de-ligitimize
Israel. It’s kind of like two people with guns pointed at
each other’s heads. Each says, I can’t put the gun down
because the other has one pointed at me.

That’s where I get very pointed with the arguments you
present. You’re arguments, which are always pro-Palestinian
and anti-Israel, are inciteful. There is truth to much of
what you say, but your not helping the situation.
-Aaron

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: CFGT82A AARON DERMAN Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:52 PM

The issue should not be the ‘incitefulness’ of my notes, but
its TRUTHFULNESS – as you have acknowledged.

If the Israelis are the aggressors, and if they are the
occupiers, and if they are the CAUSE of the violence, there
really should not be any mollycoddling of such villans.

We did not take a sweet and understanding view of the Iraqi
occupation, there is no need for us to do otherwise for the
Israelis – just because they have a powerful lobby within
our borders. At least NOT if we want to be able to look the
world in the eye, and stand up proud, in the morning.

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: ALL Date: 03/20
From: NGNS40D JOSH KEIDAN Time: 8:07 PM

Okay by the logic of the last note a lot in the the world
should change. Here are some suggestions I have:
1. The United States should return all its land to the
Mexicans and Native Americans
2. France should find the descendents of the visagoths and
return all the land to them
Pretty dumb eh? Listen The jews have repeatedly offerd
peace to the Arabs who live Gaza and the west bank and each
time the peace ovetures have been turned down. Furthermore
the arabs in the west bank and gaza have said repeatedly
thta they will take over all of Israel if they get achance.
Obviously these guys just love the idea of peace.
It is called reality buddy . Either join it or shut up.
Thanks.
🙂

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/23
From: XFVP93C MORGAN LAYNE Time: 8:39 PM

What revisionist history are you spouting now?

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/23
From: CFGT82A AARON DERMAN Time: 8:39 PM

Casey-
The only reason why America got involved in opposing the
Iraqi expansion was oil. If Iraq were to take Kuwait they
would have controlled the Persian oil empire. Historically
speaking Kuwait was actually part of Iraq. Kuwait gained
independence from Iraq due to Western Influences and their
interst in having a neutral country with which to do
bussiness in the Gulf. Kuwait has been independent too long
for it to be taken back by Iraq by force. And, the Kuwaitis
are not at all interested in falling under Iraq’s influence
again.
>>>
The Israelis, on the other hand, took control of territories
which had been annexed by hostile nieghbors. The
Palestinians didn’t accept the partition plan, and the Arab
states used the Palestinians like pawns against the
Israelis. The Israeli move into the West Bank and Golan
didn’t threaten world stability the way the Iraqi move into
Kuwait did. In the end, I think the occupied territories
will be returned to the Palestinians. But, only after
Israel can be assured that countries like Jordan, Syria, and
Egypt won’t use them as a spring board for launching a war
of ahniallation against Israel.
-Aaron

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: CFGT82A AARON DERMAN Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 9:22 PM

Oil was an ESCUSE. Let us look at the facts. You say, we
entered the war to ensure that our oil supplies were not
cornered. You felt that Iraq would control all the oil that
flows through the gulf, if it conquered Kuwait.

1. The worst Iraq could have done with Kuwaiti oil was to
reduce its supply to force prices up.

But the world is already doing WITHOUT Iraqi oil – with no
adverse affect. We are also doing without much Iranian oil –
without adverse affect.
So the ‘control of oil’ argument does not wash.
2. You said that if Iraq took over Kuwait it would control
the world’s primary oil lanes.

Till the gulf war, we were indeed quite HAPPY with Iraq on
our side – against the Iranians. And if the Iranian mines
did not provoke us into an invasion, why would something
that would have little or NO effect on oil, its price, (we
have already established that), or its supply route (we are
establishing that argument now), be ANY reason for us to
punish Iraq?

No, I think the reason WAS Iraq’s violation of international
law. Oil had little or nothing to do with it, except to
serve as a convenient diversion to those who would not think
too profoundly on the subject.

Now there WAS another troubling issue that could have
triggered such a response. But that was of importance merely
to Israel – and its supporters. Israel had expressed much
concern about Iraq’s growing military strength – especially
after its war with Iran cooled down, and it became more
battle ready than ever before. (in much the same way Israel
is grunting about Iran of late). It is not inconceivable
that Buchanan was right when he said (didnt he?), that the
primary supporters of the Gulf war were the Jewish lobbies
who were willing to fight the war with Iraq to the last
American soldier. Even that argument makes more sense in
analysis than the one about ‘protecting oil’.

But did you really mean it when you said that the Israeli
occupation of the Golan and other occupied territories “did
not threaten world stability”???? Really?

What the heck do you think we have been paying for all these
years? And why are we in the dog house with the rest of the
world – IF NOT FOR THAT ACTION? You are kidding, right?

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: XWDC96B ROD RIGAS Date: 03/23
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 9:41 PM

many thanks rigas. Your antics lend spice to this board.

They also help make your side look quite foolish – not that
they need much help, but since you are willing to give me a
helping hand, thanks again.

With adversaries like you, who needs allies? VBG

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Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: CFGT82A AARON DERMAN Date: 03/24
From: YJWA54A JOSEPH WEISS Time: 6:17 AM

Aaron,
What is the point of engaging him? There is nthing you
can write that won`t be be a springboard for an attack on
Israel or American Jewry.
His explanation of the Iraqi invasion is pure idiocy.If
Iraq continued through the rest of the Gulf,they would have
controlled more than 50% of the world`s oil reserves.
Of course Israel wanted Iraq`s military destroyed.Iraq
took part in three Arab invasions of Israel!
Aaron,you are too sincere to engage this guy in any kind
of meaningful discussion.If you do this long enough,you`ll
realize that Rod has the right idea. He`s right on! >

Best of luck,
Joe

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Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: ALL Date: 03/23
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 11:06 PM

I live in an area wherein the current maximum agreement
among the population is the Fidel Castro must go. Now if
Castro were to drop dead tomorrow, would Cuba be free? I
doubt it, but let’s say that by magic, it happens. I have
a number of Cuban-American friends, many born in Cuba, many
now having been born there but really grew up in the U.S.A.
They still have a lot of Cuban culture and still speak
Spanish a lot, but they are Americans with a slight ethnic
quality and though they rave about how Castro must go,
should the regime fail and it is left open to a democratic
rule, I have asked many of my friends, “Who among you will
go back to Cuba to live and rebuild the country?” Very few
will, though they think that it should be done. Who is
going back to Cuba? Probably some who will exploit what
Cuba has and at the same time build industry and
agriculture there to help, but to LIVE THERE? NO WAY! Now
that exodus began in the ’60’s and there are people who are
so young that they were barely infants, yet they scream
about Castro and how Cuba must be freed.
In 1948, Israel became a country according to the U.N. and
not so according to most of the Arab Countries. The more
militarily powerful assured the indiginous people of the
mandate of Palestine that they need not accept the West
Bank area as their country of Palestine and Jerusalem as an
International City, they must wait until their Arab
brothers squelch Israel and then they will HAVE IT ALL.
That was clearly 12 or more years before Fidel Castro and
now many Palestinians are ensconced in Jordan, Kuwait, etc.
and doing quite well for themselves. Oh some may claim
that they were dislocated and maybe they were, but will
they move back to PALESTINE, a country? Not likely! They,
like our American Cubans have a traditional enemy a sort of
ethnic hate, but when it comes to uprooting and building a
country, Let the PLO or Hamas or whomever else, do it.
People do get spread all over and over the years, they
adapt to their current environment. They may hate their
history of what they may term as an oppressed people, but,
in fact, only a few hotheads will really seek to return to
the homeland. Others will love to complain, but they will
enjoy their status quo. And the promises of the Arab
bretheren in other countries? — where has that led? It
isn’t BAD, it is just a fact that one cannot continue to
hold a grudge forever and in so doing kick themselves
around all the time. One has to get on with his or her
life and his or her lot. Pease is being disturbed, not by
the great mass of dislocated Palestinians but by the
militant few who have learned the nature of terrorist
politics or how to fire up the sympathetic to either their
cause or those with antipathy for those represented as the
Palestinian enemy. Oh don’t get me wrong. There are folks
like that on both sides of the drawn lines. It will take
many generations to have what can be considered real peace.

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Subject: ACHMED HUBER WARNING

To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/20
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 10:11 PM

Just doing some research, don’t mind me….

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 2:28 PM

You may be ‘on to me’, but if you have bigger fishes to
fricasse, keep me posted….they probably fit into one of
the AArdvark’s indexes!!

AArdvark

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Subject: ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED

To: ALL Date: 03/10
From: FGWF47A RAYMOND NICKLIN Time: 3:08 AM

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 9:44 AM

why am I not surprised.?

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To: ALL Date: 03/10
From: FGWF47A RAYMOND NICKLIN Time: 3:19 AM

RE: Ennes

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 10:25 PM

I dont as whit either – whatever that means. So there.

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/24
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 11:28 PM

Well, I never claimed that the president has the power to
make laws….that power lies with Congress, but our system
of checks and balances gives the president veto power over
such lawmaking.

Some further questions: how has the Federal gov’t been too
powerful since 1933? And are you saying that our president
gov’t is a centralized one and one at risk of fascism?

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 9:44 AM

Andrew if you believe that Palestinians will give peace for
land you are either very naive or heartless against Jews.
They show very little reason to make real peace and still
maintain that the peace is just one step to taking over the
whole land. Don’t you listen to what they say? Be
realistic. More Jews have died in the pursuit of peace than
during the pursuit of war.at thehands of ther Palestinians.

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 10:07 AM

It’s really disgusting how you make such blanket statements
about Palestinians. It seems to me that like most people,
the majority of Palestinians are moderates, and that they
are very willing to make peace in exchange for land that
they can call their own. Do I think they’ll make peace in
exchange for the occupied territories? Yes, I do.

Am I heartless against Jews? Why not ask my father, my
roommate, and my last two girlfriends, all of whom agree
that Palestinians need a homeland. It seems like Likudniks
like you are the minority, Hilda.

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Subject: ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED

To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:11 PM

An excerpt from Executive Order No. 12947, Jan 23, 1995:
I, William J. Clinton, President of the United States of
America, find that grave acts of violence committed by
foreign terrorists that disrupt the Middle East peace
process constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to
the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the
United States, and hereby declare a national emergency to
deal with that threat. end quote

An excerpt from Senate Report 93-549, Nov. 19, 1973:
Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state
of declared national emergency….These proclamations give
force to 470 provisions of Federal law….This vast range
of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule
the country without reference to normal constitutional
processes…For 40 years, freedoms and governmental
procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying
degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by
states of national emergency. end quote

This latest national emergency is one of 5 that I know of
at this time, and there are most likely more!

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Subject: ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED

To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:11 PM

“Virtually all of the specific economic policies advocated
by the Italian and Germany fascists of the 1930s have also
been adopted in the United States in some form, and continue
to be adopted to this day. Sixty years ago, those who
adopted these interventionist policies in Italy and Germany
did so because they wanted to destroy economic liberty, free
enterprise, and individualism. Only if these institutions
were abolished could they hope to acheive the kind of
totalalitarian state they had in mind…..As most of the
rest of the world struggles to privatize industry and
encourage free enterprise, we in the United States are
seriously debating whether or not we should adopt 1930s era
economic fascism as the organizational principle of our
entire health care system….The state and it academic
apologists are so skilled at generating propaganda in
support of such schemes that Americans are mostly unaware of
the dire threat they pose for the future of freedom.”
– Dr. Thomas J. DiLorenzo, (Professor of Economics at
Loyola College, Baltimore, MD) from The Freeman: Ideas on
Liberty, June 1994, pages 292 & 293.

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:12 PM

“In the popular mind, the two words [fascist and Nazi,rf]
are assumed to mean anyone who is a bigot, a racist, an
extreme nationalist, or a political ultra-conservative. If
we examine the political evolution that produced fascism, we
find that fascism has an entirely different meaning. Once
we understand what that meaning is, it’s easy to understand
why it is that while the epithet fascist is so popular with
liberal politicians and commentators, hence little is ever
written about fascism as a political philosophy. Liberal
statists don’t want the public to know that when they point
the finger of fascism at someone else, they are pointing
four fingers at themselves….Much of modern American
liberalism is fascism and always has been. We ought to
start calling it that. By calling it what is really is, we
can draw attention to what is happening in our country and
explain why we keep losing freedom while violence and hate
grow and spread through our country.
– Mack Tanner, retired American diplomat, in The Freeman:
Ideal on Liberty, June 1994, pages 285 & 287.

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:20 PM

“When the Nazis advocated the boycott of Jewish businesses
because they didn’t like Jews, no one believed this coould
ever lead to wholesale genocide. Because the Nazis were
crude, vicious, and didn’t care much for reasoned debate in
search of the truth, a country as civilized as Germany would
never allow them to do everything they wanted to do. Yet,
they eventually murdered millions of Jews. Today, I find
the never ending calls for boycotts from the left against
businesses, states, and religious groups they disagree with,
often based upon rumor and hearsay, frighteningly
reminiscent of Germany in the twenties….The road to hell
is paved with good intentions. I fear we are on that road,
and we travel dwon it at an ever-increasing speed because we
refuse to read the road signs all around us.”
– Robert Zimmerman, film producer and writer, from The
Freeman: Ideas on Liberty, June 1994, page 304.

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:20 PM

“I see creeping fascism in America, just as in Germany, a
drip at a time; a law here, a law there, all supposedly
passed to protect the public. Soon you have total
enslavement. Too many Americans have forgotten that tyranny
often masquerades as doing good. This is the technique the
Liberal politicans/Liberal media alliance are using to
enslave America.” – Theodore Haas, Dachau survivor.

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Subject: ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED

To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:20 PM

From the book Educating for the New World Order, by
Beverly Eakman, U.S. Dept, of Justice research consultant,
c1991;
pages xi & xii: List of Allegations
* storing cross-referenceable personal information in non-
secure data banks in such a way as to pose a threat to
national and individual security and to violate the
Fourth Amendment;
* permitting the unauthorized cross-use of offical
records;
* using the social security number in a manner
inconsistent with Section 7 of the Privacy Act of 1974;
* using taxpayer’s money to amass personal data accessible
as psychological profiles, on children and their
famlies, through the use of mandated school assessment
tests, fraudulently passed of as academice achievement
tests;
* scoring tests for “correct” attitudes (in violation of
the pluralism ethic) and giving offical seals of
approval to curricula whihc purport to remediate
incorrect attitudes (as assessed from the test), in
violation of the legal prohibition against the federal
government establishing curriculum for the nations
schools;.
* creating a closed-loop distribution mechanism for
federally approved curricular materials;
* fraudulently representing (or allowing to be
fraudulently represented) corrective “remedial” programs
aimed at promoting state-desired opinions and attitudes;
* abetting the obstruction of public access to documents
that would truthfully explain and label attitudinal
tests and programs;
* colluding with private, tax-free organizations for the
purpose of creating a national test and national
curriculum in violation of federal law;
* allowing certain government agenices to be used as pawns
of private organizations seeking to redefine, if not
revamp, America’s social and economic framework (thereby
placing these government agencies in the position of
conspiring to overthrow the U.S. Constitution);
* obtaing funds for one purpose and using them for
another;
* inducing local educational institutions to accept
federal money-for ulterior purposes and by decpetive
means;
* creating and subsidizing, in effect, legalized private
education system mislabeled a “public” school;
* subsidizing a policy of practicing medicine without a
license (by permitting medically unlicensed
practitioners to carry out therapeutic programs; and
* violating the Competition in Contracts Act.

page 98: “Did American soldiers lie in their own blood on
foreign soil in World War II so that policymakers at home
could perpetrate an Americanized verison of Hitler’s youth?”

page 217: This is not the flower children of the 1960s
wanting to go back to nature and living in communes. This is
extreme, pure fascism, totalitarian-and very high tech.
This is the futurists’ “new world order.”

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:20 PM

From the book Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the
Total State and Total War, by Ludwig von Mises, c1985 by
Margit von Mises, original copyright 1944:

“What the Nazis really have in mind when indicting the
Jewish mind for internationalism is the liberal theory of
free trade and the mutual advantages of international
division of labor. The Jews, they say, want to corrupt the
innate Aryan spirit of heroism by the fallacious doctrines
of the advantages of peace…the Nazis call the business
mentality Jewish. Tacitus informs us that the German tribes
of his day considered it clumsy and shameful to acquire with
sweat what could be won by bloodshed. This is also the
first moral principle of the Nazis. They despise individuals
and nations eager to profit by serving other people; in
their eyes robbery is the noblest way to make a living……
..The Nazis simply call everything that is contrary to their
own doctrines and tenets Jewish and communist. When
executing hostages in the occupied countries they always
say they have punished Jews and communists. They call the
President of the United States a Jew and a communist. He who
is not prepared to surrender to them is by that token a Jew.
In the Nazi dictionary the terms Jew and communist are
synonymous with non-Nazi……Not alone in France but the
world over anti-semitism made propaganda for Nazism. Such
was the detrimental effect of interventionism [government
intervention in the marketplace,rf] and its tendencies
toward discrimination….The hope of being delivered from a
Jewish competitor fascinated them while they forgot
everything else, their nation’s independence, freedom,
religion, civilization…The Nazis have an ally in every
town or village where there is a man eager to get rid of a
Jewish competitor. The secret weapon of Hitler is the anti-
Jewish inclinations of many millions of shopkeepers and
grocers, of doctors and lawyers, professors and writers.
The present war would never have originated but for anti-
semitism. Only anti-semitism made it possible for the Nazis
to restore the German people’s faith in the invincibility of
its armed forces, and thus to drive Germany again into the
policy of aggression and the struggle for hegemony. Only
the anti-semitic entanglement of a good deal of French
public opinion prevented France from stopping Hitler when he
could still be stopped without war. And it was anti-semitism
that helped the German armies find in every European country
men ready to open the doors to them.
Mankind has paid a high price indeed for anti-semitism.
end quote.
I am sure some of you will disagree with me, but the way
I read this is that while anti-semitism was always prevalent
in Europe people still did business with Jews and Jewish
businesses up until their respective governments intervened.
That government intervention was made possible because of
envy, an anti-capitalistic mentality, and a disregard for
individual rights and liberty; three tenets that are
prevalent in America today! 60 years ago the Nazis’ used
anti-semitism to promote their ideology and called those
that opposed them Jews and communists. Today’s similar
mindset in America uses envy and anti-captialism to promote
their ideology and calls those that oppose them “the rich,”
“big business,” “angry whites,” and “patriots.”

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Time: 12:20 PM

“A number of nineteenth-century political theorists and
organizers had advocated a synthesis of nationalism and
socialism and some had given their conceptions an anti-
Semitic volkisch twist….What did distinguish the NSDAP
from others was the skill and the tenacity with which the
party’s views were packaged and presented to the public…”
-The Nazi Voter, Thomas Childers, c1983, pages 45 & 46.
“The Social Democratic voters of the Free Trade Unions are
in confusion…They have grown doubtful that Marxism is
really the socialism for which they have struggled.”
– Nieder mit den Ausbeutern! Enteignet den Besitzenden!
NSDAP leaflet, 1932, – The Nazi Voter.

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:00 PM

Hilda, Andy apparently DOES think Israel should hand over
land en masse.
There isn’t much there to begin with.
There are other alternatives, not of my compilation, by the
way, such as expelling everyone not a Jew.
Then the world can blow up entire countries instead of just
pieces of cities. GASP.
The Arabs in Israel are indigenous.
Remember when Bob Grant went to Israel last year. The Jewish
tourists told him they felt uncomfortable eating in
restaurants with so many Arabs in them. An Israeli told them
those were JEWS. SHOCKING. They dress alike & you can’t (p2)
tell the Arabs & Israelis apart.!!!
SO how come we’re killing each other??

AArdvark’s curious

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:15 PM

Casey, refer to Rick’s 360 degree cirle of ‘libertarians’.
And JEWs do have the right to a Vatterland.
Remember, that to live in a group called society, there MUST
be ‘common good’ requisites or the group falls apart.
Doesn’t matter that such rights might pre-empt individual
rights. The concept of the individual above & beyond is as
absurd as the state above & beyond.
Democratic govt’s ATTEMPT to strike a balance.
Of course, that doesn’ work well here in the US because of
numerous conspiracies……

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:15 PM

He said Zionism is non-facist!!
Should have said neo-facist.

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:27 PM

Very good Hilda. The Israelis did more for the Palestinians
, or tried to, than their own Arab relatives. Anyone who has
been there can attest that , in essence, the REAL problem is
one of ‘class’ differentiation. To make an analogy,
(politely?) the Palestinian masses are very much like the
masses in our ‘welfare’ slums. And relational analogies are
just as true. Rev. Jackson doesn’t help Afro-Americans
’cause he lives off disparity. Until the Arab Nation deals
with the Palestinians, they will continue to rot.

AArdvark

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:27 PM

Hilda, when you watch the politicing in Tel-Aviv, the Jews
AND the Arabs BOTH are fighting peace. All talk peace but do
otherwise. Egypt caved in. Arafat caved in. Who would have
thought????
Once in hand, however, the Israelis are just as much to
blame.
Reality: come to the table or your grandchildren will die.
Arafat probably realizes this as he is getting up in years.
Peace with the ‘enemy’ or death.
Israeli conservatives are even now taking pot-shots at
Egypt. If any peace can be wrought, in a hundred years their
children will play together. AArdvark

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:37 PM

You call it an alliance, I call it a conspiracy. And which
peoples are at the top of the liberal think-tank??
One guess!
I say it will come back to haunt them, rather than give them
the enslavement of America,as you suggest.

AArdvark

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:29 PM

Am I to assume, then, that you disagree with the idea of
federal or national emergency because it, in some way, could
lead to fascistic or totalitarian excesses?

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:29 PM

Dr. DiLorenzo is an idiot from a mediocre college at best.
The economic reforms he speaks of are not “fascist” but
“socialist”–New Deal, Nationalism of industry in Italy,
Germany, etc. So he’s an idiot for misusing terms.
Furthermore, I don’t seem to recall the US making
territorial claims against other countries, either during
the 1930s or since as both Italy (Ethiopia) and Germany
(Western Europe, Poland) both did. These actions are not a
function of the socialistic elements of these states. It is
a result of the rampant, fascist ultra-nationalism of these
states. If DiLorenzo’s idea were valid, then all socialist
states would be expansionist….and are they?

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:29 PM

Rick, the rantings of some arch-conservative are just not
going to convince me that liberalism=fascism.

Sorry.

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:33 PM

Zimmerman is an even bigger idiot than DiLorenzi. If he’d
ever read American history, he’d know that it was a boycott
of white-dominated industries in the South that helped pave
the way for integration. Of course, perhaps Zimmerman is a
segregationist. Boycotts are simply a way of stating
political beliefs through economic action. Boycotting of
Jewish business was based on race, not on unfair business
practices. Furthermore, Nazi boycotts culminated in
Kristallnacht, the worst pogrom in history. Can you name me
an American boycott that ended this way? If you can’t, it’s
merely paranoia.

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:33 PM

Theodore Haas is probably a Likudnik. What can I say: if it
wasn’t for liberalism, Haas wouldn’t be able to live in the
buildings or eat in the same restaurants as us.
Anti-semitic segregation was common, even in New York, well
into the 1930’s. It seems it was Roosevelt and his
successors, mostly liberal, who put an end to that.

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:34 PM

OK, here you make some decent points, but can you in any way
tie your claims to either the worldwide socialist movement,
or the American liberalism movement?

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:39 PM

You’ve already sent me this note, so I’ll make my reply
brief.

Nazi Germany employed some socialist principles, but
certainly not all. SO WHAT????? Where is the link that it
was the socialism and not the race hatred that led to the
Holocaust??????????

PROOF, DAMMIT!!! I can name dozens of socialist states, or
states that incorporate socialist ideals that are
non-violent.

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To: FTRB61A RICK FARLEY Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:39 PM

Fine, so you’ve proven that the Nazis disliked Jews because
of their involvement in business. Of course, here we fall
upon a classic anti-Semitic syllogism: how could the Jewish
people be simultaneously responsible for communism and for
too much control over the banking which supported private
enterprise. You seem to contradict yourself, as Mises and
the Nazis themselves did. The Nazis claimed to be striking
a blow for the German average businessman.

And you still don’t link any of this to present-day America.
Frankly, you are growing quite tiresome.

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:43 PM

1) My name is Andrew, not Andy.
2) Where do you suggest we deport all those Jews from Israel
to?
3) What’s this “we” stuff when you discuss the Arab/Israeli
conflict. Are you one or the other? Huber sounds awfully
Germanic in origin to me, and frankly I think your assertion
that your name is “Achmed” is a load of bull.
4) I’m on to you….

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:43 PM

No, if you could read, you’d see that I’d said that I
supported non-fascist Zionism. I’m perfectly aware that
there are fascistic Zionist movements. Why not read the
whole note instead of looking for buzzwords?

And why’ll you’re at it, why don’t you learn to spell the
world FASCIST.

And by the way, when are you coming to New YOrk to insult me
to my face.

I’m on to you, Huber…

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:45 PM

Oh, almost forgot….how are your friends in Yemen?

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To: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Date: 03/26
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 0:27 AM

You cannot claim that more Jews have died in the ‘pursuit of
peace’, when they are sitting pretty on Palestinian land.

You cannot occupy another people’s land, and then call for a
peace with the original occupants, without a committement to
evacuate the property, compensate them for their loss,and
punish the perpetrators.

It does not work that way. Criminals cannot call for
‘peace’, when they are being pursued for murder and
burglary. Once they commit the crime, they loose any rights
they may have had to expect to live in ‘peace’.

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To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/26
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 6:55 AM

Your father??? Ask him He married a non Jew so he was not
faithful to Judaism. Your girlfriends—maybe they were
Arabs, how do we know.. Is that why Netanyahu is leading in
all the polls? I am disgusting eh? Then let the
Palestinians stop all their terrorism. I never trust anyone
who is out to kill me.

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/26
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 6:58 AM

Very good qwuestion. Perhaps the best question yet. For an
answer you will have to contact the Arabs because they
started the killing. What would you do if someone stuck a
gun in your face?

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/26
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 7:00 AM

You are beginning to show a great deal of insight.

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To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/26
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 7:06 AM

I take back what I said in the last note at least
partially. Egyp never came to the reality of peace.—Sadat
did and he died for it. Egypt never made peace with Israel.
They took from Israel and the US and even today they write
dreadful things about Israel in their newspapaers. If it
wasn’t for US aid they probasbly would be shooting off
rockets instead of their mouths. They never sent an
ambassador to Israel—after all these years.

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To: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Date: 03/15
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 1:22 AM

contd..

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To: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 7:52 PM

So you dont think that Jews are involved in the denigration
of Muslims, Islam or arabs? – just us regular Americans do
that. Huh, who’d have thought.

I guess members of the Jewish Congress have a right to sit
in on meetings where America’s foreign policy decisions are
made. I guess our constitution gives them special powers and
authority to ‘help’ us make such decisions, huh? I guess all
minorities enjoy such priviledges, huh? I guess this does
not indicate that Jews make any special efforts to malign
the muslim world, huh? They are just ‘innocent bystanders’.
huh? ……………….You’ve been inhaling, havent you?.

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Time: 1:27 PM

Casey

End discussion. What you are spouting is garbage.

I do not think the American Jewish community gets any
special privileges. If a meeting is open and people can sit
in, they get to sit in. If not, they do not.

As to anti-arab bigotry in this country, you are living in
la la land if you want to blame the Jews for it. But I
think you live in la la land anyway .
sjl

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:47 PM

V, all the way around..full circle.
We can’t blame the film “Priest” on them either.
Disney’s Chairman isprobably an Arab. BIG .

AArdvark never shocked

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/18
From: GBRT32A PATRICK GROFF Time: 10:28 PM

Why would you address Mr. Levine as “you guys”?
you did say that you address Mr. Levine as a single person,
as oppossed to his representing all Jews.

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To: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:16 PM

No steve, we are not talking about such comments from
PROMINENT personalities. We are talking about the freedom of
people to express their opinions without fear of
persecution. Jewish organizations have been notorious in
making concerted efforts to muzzle such opinions from
Americans at all levels. From Congressmen to media
personalities, from librarians to teachers, Jewish
organizations have succeeded in hounding off their critics –
– not through strength of argument, but sheer harrassement.

Only when ALL Americans realize that we have nothing to fear
but fear itself, will such tactics be neutralized.

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Time: 1:35 PM

Case

Come now:

You really expect us to believe that congressmen, teachers,
media personne, etc. only come under fire when they make
anti-jewish remarks and not when they make bigotted
remarks against other peoples?

What do you take the readership of this board for? You
insult their intelligence.
sjl

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To: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Date: 03/26
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 0:43 AM

Insult your intelligence?
Dont flatter yourself, Steve.

As for ‘expecting’ anyone to believe that Jews are far, far,
FAR, more organized in their attempts to seek out any
perceived comment that would put them in a less than
pristine light, is not a particularly demanding expectation.
You might not want to believe it, but then, you have also
refused to acknowledge that there is ANYthing Jews can be
criticized for without some ulterior antisemitic motives.
With such objectivity (sic), I wonder how you intereact with
so many gentiles in this country. Must be hard on you, eh?

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To: MAKB53A STEPHEN LEVINE Date: 03/26
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 1:12 AM

Stevie,

I know Ive asked this before, but as you have not answered
my question, would you at least let us know if you will EVER
respond to the following querry ……

Are there ANY criticisms of Jews, or Israel that you would
consider to be justified, and NOT necessarily a benchmark of
a person’s antisemitism? We have already determined that
such criticisms of Christians and others, are often levelled
by many Jews, who in turn are aghast and aroused to outrage,
when similar accusations are levelled back at them.

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To: ALL Date: 03/12
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 8:16 PM

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To: FCRF11A DON KORY Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:24 PM

Of course Iam asking you. YOU said it!

And why do you think that ‘most of the others are
meatballs’? Did somebody else say something you didnt like?

You poor persecuted bugger – Donkory against the world…
what a thought.

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/24
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 10:17 PM

Casey your value on this BB has just diminished to that
lower than whale deficatiion at the bottom of he sea.

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To: FCRF11A DON KORY Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 10:35 PM

Oh NO! Not “whale deficatiion at the bottom of he sea”
Anything but that! aiiiiiii!

Spelling bee champ you were not – or are you translating
from Hebrew again?

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 3:15 PM

CASEY AND CASE DISMISSED.

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:47 PM

Actually you are ahead, V.
Tonight you are HOT.
Previous subject board shows it.

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To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: JDLN50A JOHN COLLIAS Time: 6:12 PM

LET US DEFINE OUR TERMS, SHALL WE? “PALESTINIANS” DO NOT
EXIST; THEY ARE MERELY ARABS RESIDING ON JEWISH LAND. THE
LAND WAS CALLED “PALESTINA” BY THE CONQUERING ROMANS. BEFORE
THAT, IT WAS ISRAEL. IT WILL ALWAYS BE ISRAEL.

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To: JDLN50A JOHN COLLIAS Date: 03/26
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 1:12 AM

Oh? Well I humbly apologize to your vast insight on this
subject. But I guess you have a lot of education to do for
the rest of the world. Right now its fairly well accepted
that the Palestinians are a distinct and indigenous people.
You got your work cut out for you fella. You can start with
our State Department.

As for Europeans who practice a form of Judaism that is
unique to most orthodox Jews, and many Jewish sects like the
Naturai Karta and the Samaritans in Israel, have about as
much right to the land as a monkey’s hand in a hornet’s
nest. Naturally, some are brighter than others.

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Subject: CASEY – A CASE.

To: ALL Date: 03/25
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 8:34 AM

This case has been concluded. All witnesses have departed
to parts unknown. The court rules: CASE DISMISSED!

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To: ALL Date: 03/25
From: AEFR07A ALAN BERNSON Time: 11:09 AM

It calls for the destruction of Israel and for the
annhilation of it Jewish residents.

Portions of the Charter are as follows:

Article 6: Jews who were living permanently in Palestine
until the beginning of the Zionist invasion will be
considered Palestinians.

Comment: Arab literature marks the so called “Zionist
Invasion” as 1917, the date of the Balfour Declaration..
Arab leaders state openly that they will exterminate all
Jews living in Israel once they “liberate” Palestine.In
fact, the Mufti of Jerusalem, spent the war years as a
guest of Himmler , pouring over blueprints of gas chambers
to be built in Tel Aviv and Haifa after the German victory.

Article 15 : The liberation of Palestine, …is a national
duty to eliminate the Zionist [ read “Jewish] presence from
Palestine.

Article 19. The partitioning of Palestine in 1947 and the
establishment of Israel are null and void.

Comment: The Arab armies thumbed their noses at the UN in
1947, and unilaterally voided the UN partition when they
invaded the Palestinian Jewish state in 1948.

Article 21: The Palestinian Arab people, in expressing
itself thru armed Palestinian revolution, rejects every
solution that is a substitute for a complete liberation of
Palestine [read: all land which is now Israel ] and rejects
all plans that aim at the settlement of the Palestine issue
or its internationalization.

Article 22: ….the liberation of Palestine will destroy
the Zionist [read “Jewish ” presence .”]

III Writer’s Comment:

The PLO Covenant declares that the objective of the
Palestinian People is to conquer what is now Israel and
annhilate or expel all of its Jewish inhabitants.

The Palestinians are the only group of people in the World
whose national Charter or Constitution imposes a duty on
its citizens to destroy another people.

As an agressor group, Palestinians are not “victims”
.Israeli Jews are more than justified in using every means
and every method to frustrate the ghoulsh plans of
Palestinians.If Palestinians are suffering, it is because
of the evil they are trying to accomplish.

Alan Bernson

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To: AEFR07A ALAN BERNSON Date: 03/26
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 1:12 AM

You said the Palestinian Charter calls for THE DESTRUCTION
OF ISRAEL, and to push the Jews into the sea.

I do not see those statements in your quotes.

All that came across, were YOUR attempts to equate “zionist”
with “jew”. Thats like equating ‘Nazi’ with ‘German’.

As for whether the Palestinians “DESERVE” their fate as you
claim, I can only point out to your own reactions to similar
comments about the Jewish role in the Holocaust. Why should
ONE explanation be ‘acceptable’, and the other, not ?

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To: ALL Date: 03/25
From: AEFR07A ALAN BERNSON Time: 11:09 AM

I.Some quotes from Arab Leaders:

“This will be a war of extermination and a momentous
massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian
massacres and the Crusades. ” Arab League Sec. Gen Azzam
Pasha- May 15, 1948, the day five Arab armies invaded the
new state of Israel.

” I declare a holy war, my Moslem brothers ! Murder Jews!
Murder them all ”

Haj Amin Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem 1948

“I announce from here, on behalf of the United Arab
Republic people, that this time we will exterminate
Israel.” Abdel Gamal Nasser, Speech at Alexandria, July 26,
1959.

“The existence of Israel is an error which must be
rectified. This is our our opportunity to wipe out the
ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is
clear– to wipe Israel of the Map.” President Abdel Raman
Aref, of Iraq, May 31, 1967

“The goal of our struggle is the end of Israel and there
can be no compromise.” Yasser Arafat, the Washington Post,
March 29, 1970

The non-Arab people in the world who sympathize with
Palestinians do so only because they believe that Jews, be
they in Israel or anywhere else, should be destroyed.

“The struggle with the Zionist enemy is not a struggle
about Israel’s borders but about Israel’s existence . We
will never agree to anything less than the return of all
our land and the establishment of an independent state.”
Bassam Abu Sharif, PLO spokesman, quoted by Kuwait News
Agency, May 31 1986

“The establishment of an independent Palestinian state on
the West Bank and the Gaza Strip does not contradict our
ultimate strategic aim, which is the establishment of a
democratic state in the entire territory of Palestine, but
rather is a step in that direction.” Abu Iyad, PLO
executive in interview with Al-Safir, Lebanon, Jan. 25,
1988.

II. The PLO Charter

The foregoing attitudes were the basis for the PLO Charter
which was written in 1964, three years before the June
1967 war..In May of 1967, Arab leaders declared they would
invade and destroy Israel and ordered UN Peacekeeping
forces out of the area in preprartion for their announced
invasion.Arabs danced in the streets in anticipation of
the promised massacre and Arab radio broadcasts in Hebrew
told the Jews to prepare for death..To frustrate Arab
plans, although surrounded and outnumbered by Arab armies
equipped by Russia to the hilt, the Jews attacked and in 6
days, destroyed five invading Arab armies and occupied what
is now the so called “territories”..

The PLO Charter is the National Constitution of
Palestinian Arabs. and it must be remembered that it was
written in 1964, three years before the 1967 war when there
were no “occupied territories..”

The charter never been changed and if it were changed, it
would be changed only for the purpose of gaining some bases
from which to carry out the destruction of Israel.

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To: AEFR07A ALAN BERNSON Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:47 PM

Have you tried quoting that great statesman of tolerance,
Yitzak Shamir???

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To: ALL Date: 03/19
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:18 PM

This month’ list of Heroes continues:

Marqis Anthony Kennon
Scott Johnson
State Supreme Court Justice Politan
SS Action Group

Keep up the good work,men!!

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 2:28 PM

Thanks for your interesting suggestions. Note that Jill
(your favorite purveyor) DEMANDED I remove jeffrey wolf from
the index, while Nancy suggested he be on BOTH indexes!!
It’s kind of like the ‘chicken or the egg’ theory.
Was he involved from the beginning in orchestrating his
wife’s demise or was he just an efficient opportunist??
Either way, we won’t know ’till the cops capture ‘gottlieb’
& debrief him.
Yawn……

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 2:34 PM

SS…. super-sport??
Actually, I don’t know, nor do I care.
We cull newspaper reports & list the ‘perps’ on one of the
indexes, depending on whether they accomplished their goal
or whether they screwed themselves up royally.
You seem to have a thing about this. Do you call the NY
TIMES & make disparaging remarks??
Do you want to censor the news??
Most of my e-mails suggests they find it very humorous.
YOu have no sense of humor, joker.

AArdvark

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 2:48 PM

It appears you are not intellectually sophistocated enough
to comprehend the ironicism involved in these indices.
Try again. There will be a test tomorrow.
You see one word you don’t like & rather than trying to
glean what’s very apparent before your eyes, you jump into
the fire of dupes.
Sheeeeesh

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:51 PM

The SS Action Group (SS standing for Schutzstaffel, the Nazi
special forces in charge of operating the concentration
camps) is a Neo-Nazi organization. For you to applaud the
successful completion of their actions (whatever they may
be) implies Nazi tendencies on your part.

So when are you going to come to New York and call me
“joker” to my face?

P.S. I’m on to you…

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:53 PM

Come on coward and insult me to my face. Face up to your
beliefs. If you’d like, I can page back and list every
post, by number, where you’ve espoused anti-Semitic and
downright Nazi beliefs, and when I’ve pressed you to back up
your cryptic points, you duck and run. That sounds an awful
lot more like cowardice than “irony” and “wit.” Actually,
what it is rhymes with the latter term.

I’ll say it for you, Achmed (if that’s your real name). You
are an anti-Semite and most likely a neo-Nazi to boot. And
I’m more than willing to come to where you live and tell you
that to your face, if you’re too coward to come to New York>
and face me.

In the meantime, say hi to all your friends in Yemen and
remember…I’m on to you….

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: EEGG87A A HUBER Date: 03/25
From: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Time: 5:53 PM

Oh, and as far as intellectual sophistication, you
misspelled the word “sophistication.”

If it wasn’t so pathetic, it’d be funny.

P.S. I’m on to you…

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: HEROES BY AARDVARK

To: CBKG24B ANDREW MATHIS Date: 03/26
From: UUVR02B HILDA ROTHSCHILD Time: 7:15 AM

At least he is more honest than you. What you see is what’s
you got. He doesn’t pretend to like Jews as some others I
know who hide behind–I’m partially Jewish—so is Jill and
by Nazi standards so is Cap Wineburg but that doesn’t stop
him from beinf Anti semitic

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=============== Note 1 =================

Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: ALL Date: 03/20
From: NGNS40D JOSH KEIDAN Time: 8:07 PM

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: YJWA54A JOSEPH WEISS Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:36 PM

I expect birds of a feather to flock together.

But your note was most interesting in what it did not say.

You concede then, that there is no argument you can make on
behalf of Israel, and that you side is now reduced to
obscenities and namecalling which are the only weapons you
have left – and rigas your only hope! How pathetic.
But I could have told you that months ago, when you began
the now familar “Israel good, Arab bad” anthem of American
jewry. A peek behind its mask has revealed a beast of a
different nature, hasnt it?Thats justthe tip of the iceburg.

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: YJWA54A JOSEPH WEISS Time: 6:12 AM

We`re all convinced that you know more about Jews,Jewish cul
ture,and Jewish history,than anyone on Earth,so please
answer a few questions.
1. How many Jews are there in the House of
Representatives and the Senate?
2. How many of the world`s top 100 commercial banks are
owned by Jews?
3. How many of the “Fortune 100” businesses are owned by
Jews?
4. Aside from the motion picture medium, which of the
other media are inordinately influenced by Jews, and who,by
name,are these people?
5.How many of the states of The United States have more
than 50,000 Jewish residents?
Your input would be greatly appreciated.

Joe

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: JEW FREE PALISTINE?

To: XFVP93C MORGAN LAYNE Date: 03/25
From: EEGG87A A HUBER Time: 3:59 PM

Morgan, Casey doesn’t spout revisionism. He complains, as do
I, about the liberals’ successful attempts to-date to revise
European influence in the Americas.

Guarantee it will be their demise.

AArdvark backfires.

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: ALL Date: 03/23
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 11:06 PM

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: FCRF11A DON KORY Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 8:48 PM

And Don Kory, pretends he offers a viable solution.
Allow me propose, that the Palestinians INDEED SHOULD NOT
compromise their integrity, or their demand for freedom. It
is the RIGHT of all people to be free – AT LEAST IN THEIR
OWN HOMELAND! As Arafat, other arab leaders, AND EVEN
AMERICANS have learnt, negotiating a peace WITH Israel, or
FOR Israel, is an expensive and treacherous process.
Until Israel DEMONSTRATES that it is willing to abandon its
territorial ambitions, the arabs AND AMERICA would do well
to withold its concessions, and its aid. Else its just
throwing good concessions and aid into an Israeli black
hole.Yes indeed, the Palestinians MUST unite.

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/24
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 10:17 PM

Casey you are a noisy loser. So get lost.

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: FCRF11A DON KORY Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 10:44 PM

I guess being called ‘noisy’ by an Israel-first Jew is some
achievement. Ive been around you guys too long, and am just
a product of my environment. I learnt how to argue at the
knee of an argumentative zionist, now the Jews dont like me.

Pity.

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/24
From: UTPJ62A V CASEY Time: 10:52 PM

Ive been instructed to revise my last note.

Where I said, “Now the Jews dont like me”

I must now change to

“Now SOME Jews dont like me”

Thanks a lot sweetheart.

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: YJWA54A JOSEPH WEISS Time: 6:17 AM

What`s not to like?
You`re a tremendous asset!
Keep up the good work!

Joe

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: UTPJ62A V CASEY Date: 03/25
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 3:15 PM

I seriously doubt that they would accept you in the West
Bank, say Hebron — unless of course you may want to try
becoming a human bomb. So far V. Casey, you are the only
one writing as a “champion” of the Palestinian cause. I
really wonder why they haven’t joined in to defend both you
and their own position. I also wonder if you have ever set
foot in the Middle East, ANYWHERE! North Africa? probably
not. I wonder if you have ever been out of town. Do you
have any Jewish friends? Do you know any other than
through this board? Of course you won’t answer most of
these questions. Yours is to spout platitudes, sarcasms,
etc. I am tired of someone known as Casey, an anti-Semite
who is now using the Palestinians’ cause to spout the same
old venom. Maybe the suggestion of becoming a human bomb
is not a bad one — only if you do it in an open field in
the middle of the Sahara Desert. Your words, like “pity”
show the lack of intelligence and inability to truly answer
any good legitimate question, no matter what the source.
Now before you judge whether my questions are good and
legitimate, go find a Muslim professor or a Hindu or
someone on a neutral ground and quit being your own judge
and jury. Your judgement has even fallen below your
ability write well. You are not even within 1 light year
of William Safire who is far better at the language than I.
When one stoops to becoming a spelling champ in these
World Politics matters, he has nothing really to say. That
is probably the fact. In addition, I have nothing to
say, at least to the likes of a meatball rolling down an
inclined plane.

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Board: NEWS BB
Topic: WORLD POLITICS
Subject: PALESTINIANS UNITE?

To: ALL Date: 03/25
From: FCRF11A DON KORY Time: 8:34 AM

Please, any Palestinians out there who are discouraged by
those meatballs who pretend to defend them, speak up for
yourselves. It is interesting that Palestinians on this
board, if any, have not spoken up where their meatball
defender, whose name is unmentionable here, continues to
cry the screams of Hamas militants. You see, should one
wonder how meatballs are motivated — they are placed at
the top of an inclined plane and let go. The typical
meatball either gets personal with me and calls me names,
most of which I have been called before by more expert
meatballs or screams the platitudes of a victim when not
even one sho can claim being a REAL victim. Aren’t there
any REAL Palestinians out there who will speak. Do not let
these meatball “defenders” of you and yours speak for you
for all the meatball answers are the same platitudes, ad
ridiculum, ad nauseum. Answers from meatballs will not be
accepted, though it is obvious the meatballs are on a roll.

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