You IDIOT, I own hatewatch.com and hatewatch.net.
hahaha
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, “Hate Watch”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Are you a Homosexual?
> >Hate Watch of America
> >http://www.hatewatch.com
>
> Forgery/spam forwarded to [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:40 EST 2000
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Once again dumbass, own it!
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <%[email protected]>, “Hate Watch”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Are you talking to me?
> >Don Ellis
> >”Joel Rosenberg” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]…
> >>
> >> Don Ellis, pretending to be, “Mike Kalvatis” <[email protected]>
wrote
> >in
> >> message news:[email protected]…
> >> > I am not Don, just ask Jeffrey G. Brown,
> >> >
> >>
> >> Ask him what, Don?
> >>
> >> > now prove you accusation.
> >> >
> >>
> >> [trying to answer in Don’s Bizarro gibberish] Prove me accusation?
Which
> >of
> >> me accusation am you be asking me to am prove?
> Forgery forwarded to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected]
>
> —
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
>
From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:41 EST 2000
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Hey Stupid…I own it.
hahaha
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, “Hate Watch”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I thought Jeffery brown was the homosexual side of Orac.
> >The American Guardian
> >http://www.thundernet.org
> >”Mike Kalvatis” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]…
> >> I am not Don, just ask Jeffrey G. Brown,
> >>
> >> now prove you accusation.
> >>
> >> Mike
>
> Forgery forwarded to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected]
>
> —
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
>
From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:41 EST 2000
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I thought there was more than two?
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“Joel Rosenberg” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> What’s the difference? Both of your personalities, such as they are, are
> phonies, Don.
>>
> “Hate Watch” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]…
> > You talking to me or Mike?
> > —
> > Don Ellis
> > “Joel Rosenberg” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]…
> > > If you can’t read “Thou shalt not bear false witness”, Don, I’m not
> going
> > to
> > > be able to help you.
> > >
> > >
> > > Don Ellis, pretending to be “Mike Kalvatis” <[email protected]>
wrote
> in
> > > message news:[email protected]…
> > > > prove it.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:59:44 -0600, “Joel Rosenberg”
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Don Ellis, forging a message as “Ken McVay” <[email protected]>
> wrote
> > > in
> > > > >message news:[email protected]…
> > > > >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> > > > >> business. It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> > > > >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> > > > >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> > > > >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> > > > >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> > > > >> I’m gay and loving it. Now DEAL WITH IT!
> > > > >Why more forgery, Don? Aren’t you supposed to not bear false
> witness?
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Sara the screwball….I own hatewatch.com and hatewatch.net
Just keep making an ass out of yourself.
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, “Hate Watch”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You talking to me or Mike?
> >Don Ellis
> >”Joel Rosenberg” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]…
> >> If you can’t read “Thou shalt not bear false witness”, Don, I’m not
going
> >to
> >> be able to help you.
> >>
> >>
> >> Don Ellis, pretending to be “Mike Kalvatis” <[email protected]> wrote
in
> >> message news:[email protected]…
> >> > prove it.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:59:44 -0600, “Joel Rosenberg”
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Don Ellis, forging a message as “Ken McVay” <[email protected]>
wrote
> >> in
> >> > >message news:[email protected]…
> >> > >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> >> > >> business. It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> >> > >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> >> > >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> >> > >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> >> > >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> >> > >> I’m gay and loving it. Now DEAL WITH IT!
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >Why more forgery, Don? Aren’t you supposed to not bear false
witness?
>
> Forgery forwarded to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected]
>
> —
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
>
From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:43 EST 2000
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“John Morris” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
>
> >> Why more forgery, Don? Aren’t you supposed to not bear false
> >> witness?
>
> > Isn’t that a christian thing?
>
> Actually, kind of a Jewish thing. Or are you going to argue that
> *Jesus* got the Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai?
>
Well, which one is it?
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“Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> Why more forgery, Don? Aren’t you supposed to not bear false witness?
> >>
> > Isn’t that a christian thing?
>
> Clearly you don’t know the first thing about what’s Christian and what’s
not.
>
Maybe that is it has a question mark behind it.
Want a dumbass.
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“Joel Rosenberg” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:%[email protected]…
> > >
> > > Why more forgery, Don? Aren’t you supposed to not bear false witness?
> > >
> > Isn’t that a christian thing?
>
> Why are you saying that Christians bear false witness, Don?
>
It’s a question you dumb fuck, I am not christian.
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Not exclusively. Most people understand that being honest is the right
> thing to do. You don’t.
>
> JGB
Your a fine one to talk chicken hawk.
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“Joel Rosenberg” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Err, Don, in case you haven’t noticed, that isn’t the only question of
yours
> that Ken refuses to answer. He won’t answer if you ask him what time it
is,
> either.
>
> See, Don, this is America, and, let’s face it: you just don’t count.
>
Go try and sober your drunk ass mother up.
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Are you going to stop forging, Donnie?
>
> JGB
>
Well chicken hawk, that depends if your asking me.
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“Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message news:B4BCC141.1ECE9%[email protected]…
> In article [email protected], ipm at [email protected] wrote on
> 2/1/2000 3:31 PM:
>
> > Ken McVay wrote:
> >>
> >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> >> business. It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> >> I’m gay and loving it. Now DEAL WITH IT!
> >
> > Ok, McVay, I’ll give you credit for finally having the guts to admit
> > that you’re a homosexual. Now, can we get Jeff Brown to tell the truth
> > too?
>
> Gee, either you’re joking or you must be reeeaaalllly stupid not to have
> realized that the post supposedly attributed to McVay was a very obvious
> forgery.
> —
Sure it’s real. McVay said so.
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, Williworm Scott <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >Ken McVay wrote:
> >>
> >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> >> business. It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> >> I’m gay and loving it. Now DEAL WITH IT!
> >
> >Ok, McVay, I’ll give you credit for finally having the guts to admit
> >that you’re a homosexual. Now, can we get Jeff Brown to tell the truth
> >too?
>
> Why — are you going to forge my name to a post if I don’t, Williworm?
>
> JGB
>
I doubt that he will use your name…no one but you loves being labeled as a
chicken hawk (child molester)
You one sick fucker.
—
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:46 EST 2000
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“John Morris” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> >I wonder if Jeffery Brown cruises there?
>
> Even if he doesn’t, you’ll meet somebody else.
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
>
Not me, only trash live in Canada.
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:46 EST 2000
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I own it dumbass
Hate Watch of America
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, “Hate Watch”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I wonder if Jeffery Brown cruises there?
> >–
> >Hate Watch of America
> >http://www.hatewatch.com
> >”Thinny Bilston” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]…
> >> Ken McVay, you really must explain why you have been seen
> >> going into a gay bar in Vancouver called Dude City.
> >> I suppose you are going to tell us there are alot of
> >> Holocaust survivors in there for you to interview???
> >>
> Forgery forwarded to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected]
>
> —
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
>
>
From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:47 EST 2000
Article: 710363 of alt.revisionism
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, “Gutless Donnie
> Ellis” <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You talking to me or Mike?
>
> He was talking to you, Donnie. You were forging other people’s names on
> your posts.
>
> Do you plan to stop?
>
> JGB
>
Who was talking to me?
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:47 EST 2000
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“John Morris” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
>
> RRRRRrrrrrr. I’ll bet you’re a hunka-hunka burnin’ love.
>
> – —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta <Multi pertransibunt & augebitur scientia>
>
Please don’t tell me I turn you on. No deal here for you faggot…I’m str8!
—
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http://www.thundernet.org
From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:48 EST 2000
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Have you stopped forging yet, Donnie?
>
> JGB
>
Are you talking to me?
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:48 EST 2000
Article: 710369 of alt.revisionism
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> Are you going to stop forging?
>
> JGB
>
Ask Tavish, he is an honest man.
—
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:48 EST 2000
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> Simple question. Just answer it.
>
> JGB
>
You talking to me?
If so what question?
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:49 EST 2000
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Hello fat bitch, you did it again…I own the domains
—
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, “Hate Watch”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >”Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]…
> >> In article <[email protected]>, Orac
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <[email protected]>, “Sara
Salzman”
> >> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>They might ask him if he is a homosexual.
> >> >
> >> >Or they might ask you why you persistently forge other people’s names
in
> >the
> >> >posts of your headers.
> >> Don’t bother to ask, just forward them to:
> >>
> >> [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
> >>
> >Yes, please forward them.
> >Hate Watch of America
> >http://www.hatewatch.com
>
> Forgery forwarded to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
>
From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:49 EST 2000
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You must be a idiot, once again I own the domains.
go ahead..send me an e-mail to [email protected]
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, “Hate Watch”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Ken could be waiting on his boyfriend.
> >
> >”Rip” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]…
> >> While reading the latest transcript of the Irving – Lipstadt libel
> >> trial taking place in London, and the testimony of expert witnesses,
> >> it occurred to me that Ken McVay hasn’t been summoned as an expert
> >> witness of some kind for the defense.
> >>
> >> Maybe he is on standby to go to London later. Does he have a ticket in
> >> hand to respond mecurically when the clarion call for his services is
> >> blasted from across the big pond?
> >>
> >> What would be his area of expertise anyway?
> >>
> >> Do tell us Ken!
> >>
> >> Rip
>
> Forgery forwarded to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected]
> —
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:50 EST 2000
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“steve wolk” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> You’re also a boring moron.
>
> Steve
Does that turn you on Steve?
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:50 EST 2000
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“steve wolk” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> Orac wrote:
> >
> > In article [email protected], ipm at [email protected] wrote on
> > 2/1/2000 3:31 PM:
> >
> > > Ken McVay wrote:
> > >>
> > >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> > >> business. It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> > >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> > >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> > >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> > >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> > >> I’m gay and loving it. Now DEAL WITH IT!
> > >
> > > Ok, McVay, I’ll give you credit for finally having the guts to admit
> > > that you’re a homosexual. Now, can we get Jeff Brown to tell the truth
> > > too?
> >
> > Gee, either you’re joking or you must be reeeaaalllly stupid not to have
> > realized that the post supposedly attributed to McVay was a very obvious
> > forgery.
> My guess is he’s stupid.
>
> Steve
>
Maybe you stupid not to believe it.
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From [email protected] Tue Feb 1 22:54:51 EST 2000
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Are you a homosexual?
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 00:38:22 EST 2000
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Of course not. You’re a lunatic idiot. Anyone can see that.
>
> Sara
>
Your the one who sent all those FAKE reports, you dumb fatass bitch.
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 00:38:22 EST 2000
Article: 710396 of alt.revisionism
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
> Well, I’ll be darned, Doc! Raymond Zwerin is my Rabbi here in Denver!
> Thanks for hyping his writings!
>
> Sara
WATCH OUT DOC! She/he will send a fake report on you.
–
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 00:38:23 EST 2000
Article: 710412 of alt.revisionism
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Not fake at all. You’re spamming, and you’ve been called on it.
>
> You forged my name twice today, and you’ve been called on it.
>
> And if you e-mail me again, you foul-mouthed Nazi, you’ll be called on it
> again… by my lawyer.
>
> Sara
The Posts I make are mostly replies…not spamming.
I never forged anything…do you really believe you’re the only Sara on the
net?
Please have your lawyer call me, it will be interesting.
—
Hate Watch of America
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 00:38:23 EST 2000
Article: 710414 of alt.revisionism
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Not at all, you foul-mouthed Nazi. I’m delighted that Tavish wants to
> publicise the writings of my local Rabbi.
>
> Sara
>
Good, you loud mouth bitch. Leave me alone
—
Don Ellis
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 00:38:24 EST 2000
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“steve wolk” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I’m not so stupid that I ask the same dumb question over and over and
> over.
>
> Steve
Maybe not, but your a dumbass to keep posting replies to it.
It’s the same fucking thing you idiot.
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Hate Watch of America
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 00:38:24 EST 2000
Article: 710421 of alt.revisionism
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“Mike Kalvatis” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Auto Reponse to Jeffrey G. Brown
LOOK OUT Mike…Sara is stalking you now!
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 00:38:24 EST 2000
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“John Morris” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> —–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—–
But hey, you’re the one who invited me over.
So your still having hot flashes over me? You sure your not Sara?
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 00:38:25 EST 2000
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Kenneth McVay are you a homosexual?
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 01:14:51 EST 2000
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From: Sara Ellis <[email protected]>
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Subject: She also hit on me!
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But I would rather fuck a cow then her.
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 01:14:51 EST 2000
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“dudalb” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> DOn Ellis wrote:
> Good, you loud mouth bitch. Leave me alone
> And Sara ,without raising her voice, forces yet another “Aryan Warrior”
into
> complete and total retreat….
>
Make that “Black Aryan Warrior”….I’m African American.
—
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 01:16:11 EST 2000
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From: Sara Ellis <[email protected]>
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Subject: She also hit on me!
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But I would rather fuck a cow then her.
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“dudalb” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> DOn Ellis wrote:
> Good, you loud mouth bitch. Leave me alone
> And Sara ,without raising her voice, forces yet another “Aryan Warrior”
into
> complete and total retreat….
>
Make that “Black Aryan Warrior”….I’m African American.
—
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From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 01:20:57 EST 2000
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From: Sara Ellis <[email protected]>
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Subject: She also hit on me!
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But I would rather fuck a cow then her.
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 01:20:58 EST 2000
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From: David Salzman <[email protected]>
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Subject: Sara Salzman = smelly fish
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Get some help Sara
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Subject: I wish I could get Don Ellis in bed.
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I been chasing after him for years. And he won’t take my bait.
He claims to want to be a fag rather than have sex with me!!!
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 01:21:01 EST 2000
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Subject: Sara Salzman offered me a blow job.
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I rather get head from a dog.
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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LEAVE ME ALONE
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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STOP STALKING ME
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 19:22:08 EST 2000
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“Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I’d be willing to bet it’s very likely NOT John Brown.
> —
> Orac
LIKE YOUR NAME IS REALLY ORAC?
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 19:48:39 EST 2000
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Subject: Re: Hatecrimes?
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YOU ARE WHITE
YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS
YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE
“w hingerty” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Recently here in Richmond VA a bunch of Tapestrys of prominent Virginians
> were hung up on the wall of the new Canal. Well the Afrikan-Americans
> couldnt stand the fact that Robert E Lee was in Confederate garb so they
> whined until the weakneed yuppies removed it. The Sons of COnfed Vets
didnt
> take this lieing down so finally they put him back up, only this time in
> mufti. Well that wasnt enuff. They(black fredom fighters?) torched Marse
> Robert. My question is this..Why isnt this considered a Hate crime? It is
> only considered vandalism. Had it been a pic of Nat Turner or Martin Luter
> King, it would have been the crime of the century. But there is no such
> thing as hatecrimes against whites. What hypocrisy.
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SARA STOP STALKING ME
“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, “The Nikzor
> Report” <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The White Holocaust
> >
> >God dropped as much as 18 inches of snow in southern Arkansas on
Thursday,
> >with central and northern sections of the state getting 5 to 8 inches. In
> >what is now called the White Holocaust, it was the state’s heaviest
snowfall
> >in 12 years and the deadest.
> >
> >Holocaust officials said more than 300 chicken houses in Arkansas were
> >damaged or destroyed when their roofs collapsed under the weight of the
> >snow. Under this blanket of tin, wood and snow lay thousands of dead
white
> >chickens. Survivors were seen sheeeking and clucking in terror.
> >
> >Unofficial holocaust records show over 10.5 million lives were taken in
this
> >horrible act of God. Today many black booted farmers built huge fires,
> >burning dead and live chickens.
> >
> >Gov. Mike Huckabee filed for a federal holocaust disaster declaration
> >request. God was last seen whipping the winds south of Finland.
>
> forwarded to [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected], [email protected]
>
> —
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
>
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 19:48:39 EST 2000
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OH SARA, YOU HAVE REPLIED TO EVERY POST I HAVE MADE IN A STALKING MANNER.
THE PPL YOU ARE FORWARDING THESE MESSAGES TO HAVE CONTACTED ME, THEY ARE
GOING TO START BLOCKING YOUR E-MAILS.
—
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org
“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> (Howard Knight) wrote:
>
> >Don Ellis ([email protected]) writes:
> >
> >: So far you’re the only one posting here I care to honestly respond to.
> >: Those who are doing the complaining are in fact the very ones who
> >: started this whole affair. People like Brown, Orac, Sara, Morris mostly
> >: post crude one liners that involve name calling, slander, even bitching
> >: about a misspelled word. They don’t offer anything to revisionism, but
> >: to flame anyone who disagrees with them.
> >
> >Sounds like you may also benefit from the use of a killfile.
> >
> >Howard
>
> Howard:
>
> In order to understand your position, let me ask a question:
>
> Is it Usenet abuse to post a single question (Ken McVay, are you a
> homosexual?) more than 50 times to the same Usenet group?
>
> Respectfully,
> Sara
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
>
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 19:48:40 EST 2000
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“Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Oddly enough, Don now appears to want to play the wronged party and
explain
> himself. Gee, I wonder if this sudden change in behavior for the better
had
> anything to do with Sara and others forwarding all his posts to the
various
> complaint addresses of his ISP’s upstream providers.
I GUESS YOU GOING TO FORCE ME TO PROVE YOU WRONG. YOU DON’T KNOW WHEN TO
SHUT THE FUCK UP.
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 23:20:29 EST 2000
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GO COUNT THEM…IT IS WELL UNDER 20
“Howard Knight” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Sara Salzman ([email protected]) writes:
>
> : Howard:
> :
> : In order to understand your position, let me ask a question:
> :
> : Is it Usenet abuse to post a single question (Ken McVay, are you a
> : homosexual?) more than 50 times to the same Usenet group?
>
> It is Usenet abuse to post _anything_ more than 20 times in a 45 day
> period (aka spamming).
>
> Howard
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SARA STOP STALKING ME
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org
“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, “Jeffery Tavish”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >GO COUNT THEM…IT IS WELL UNDER 20
> >
> >
> >”Howard Knight” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]…
> >> Sara Salzman ([email protected]) writes:
> >>
> >> : Howard:
> >> :
> >> : In order to understand your position, let me ask a question:
> >> :
> >> : Is it Usenet abuse to post a single question (Ken McVay, are you a
> >> : homosexual?) more than 50 times to the same Usenet group?
> >>
> >> It is Usenet abuse to post _anything_ more than 20 times in a 45 day
> >> period (aka spamming).
> >>
> >> Howard
>
> So I take it Tavish approves of your using his name now? Figures….
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 23:20:30 EST 2000
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Subject: I DO NOT LOVE YOU SARA
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SARA STOP STALKING
“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> In article <[email protected]>, “Jeffery Tavish”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >”Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:Orac-953B3D.18592202[email protected]…
> >>
> >> Oddly enough, Don now appears to want to play the wronged party and
> >explain
> >> himself. Gee, I wonder if this sudden change in behavior for the better
> >had
> >> anything to do with Sara and others forwarding all his posts to the
> >various
> >> complaint addresses of his ISP’s upstream providers.
> >I GUESS YOU GOING TO FORCE ME TO PROVE YOU WRONG. YOU DON’T KNOW WHEN TO
> >SHUT THE FUCK UP.
>
> Threat noted and forwarded to appropriate ISPs and authorities.
>
> Sara
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> False. You have made numerous posts to this and other newsgroups under the
> names of other regular participants.
>
> When do you plan to stop forging _and_ lying, Gutless Donnie?
>
>
> JGB
>
DONNIE WHO?
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KEN ARE YOU BISEXUAL?
—
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 23:20:31 EST 2000
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“Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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My apologies to all >
> —
> Orac
I FORGIVE YOU
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“Gord McFee” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Good God, he’s forging Bradbury.
>
> —
> Gord McFee
What God? Who is Bradbury?
—
Jeffery G. Brown
Vice-Pres.
Hate Watch of America
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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What?
—
Jeffery G. Brown
Vice-Pres.
Hate Watch of America
http://www.hatewatch.com
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 23:20:32 EST 2000
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From: “Jeffery G. Brown” <[email protected]>
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Subject: Holocaust is paying off…profits roll in.
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WASHINGTON — German negotiators have backed down on a plan that threatened
talks over how to distribute $5.2 billion to Nazi-era slave and forced
laborers, says the U.S. negotiator.
Deputy Treasury Secretary Stuart Eizenstat said German negotiator Otto
Lambsdorff agreed Tuesday that Germany will revise draft legislation that
would have deducted compensation money in cases of victims who had already
received payments under previous German World War II restitution programs.
At a news conference at the end of two days of talks, Eizenstat noted that
the U.S. government and victims’ representatives opposed the plan, which he
called “a potential deal breaker” in a year-old effort to compensate
laborers as well as some other categories of Holocaust survivors.
Negotiators for German government and industry, victims and five European
governments were meeting to work out how to divide $5.2 billion Germany
pledged last month toward the so-called German Foundation Initiative.
The initiative, partly in answer to lawsuits filed in the United States, is
to compensate for the first time people forced to do unpaid labor in support
of the Nazi war machine. In return for setting up the fund, German
government and industry would get what Eizenstat called “legal peace” – a
promise the U.S. government will oppose any further lawsuits seeking
Holocaust-related claims in U.S. courts.
Germany has paid $60 billion in reparations and compensation for a number of
Holocaust wrongs. But until this initiative, it has not paid the millions
forced to work for companies, farms, municipalities.
Most who would receive money from the fund are Christians forced into work
as Germany overran Central and Eastern European countries during the war.
Negotiators differ greatly on the number of laborers still surviving.
Estimates run from 1.3 million to 2.3 million.
—
Jeffery G. Brown
Vice-Pres.
Hate Watch of America
http://www.hatewatch.com
From [email protected] Wed Feb 2 23:20:32 EST 2000
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“William Daffer” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Do you own the upstream provider? Hum?
>
> William
>
I do own a cabin at a lake…does that count?
From [email protected] Thu Feb 3 00:40:33 EST 2000
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From: “Jeffery G. Brown” <[email protected]>
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Doc your my hero.
“Doc Tavish” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> ———- Forwarded Message Follows ———-
>
>
> On 2-Feb-2000, ipm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Come on Ken, put the rumors to rest. Are you gay or aren’t you?
> >
> > —
> > Best regards,
> > ipm
>
> I once heard that Ken could suck a golf ball through a garden hose!
>
> Doc Tavish
From [email protected] Thu Feb 3 00:40:34 EST 2000
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Send me a copy Tavish.
“Doc Tavish” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> On 2-Feb-2000, Fergus McClelland <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> > Is a real human being who debates – in a manner rarely offensive, but
> > very robust – in this newsgroup. Nothing has ever been revealed by her
> > or anyone about her private life.
>
> She is very close to her dog (Welsh Corgi) in Denver, Colorado and she has
> made a threat of violence against me which I am considering having
prosecuted.
> All of the above revealed by her in your favourite newsgroup!
>
> Doc Tavish
From [email protected] Thu Feb 3 00:40:34 EST 2000
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Doc Tavish is my Daddy.
“Doc Tavish” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> On 2-Feb-2000, “Orac Brown” <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > SARA STOP STALKING ME
> > The American Guardian
> > http://www.thundernet.org
> > “Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]…
> > > In article <[email protected]>, “Jeffery
Tavish”
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >GO COUNT THEM…IT IS WELL UNDER 20
>
> > > >”Howard Knight” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > >news:[email protected]…
> > > >> Sara Salzman ([email protected]) writes:
> > > >>
> > > >> : Howard:
> > > >> :
> > > >> : In order to understand your position, let me ask a question:
> > > >> :
> > > >> : Is it Usenet abuse to post a single question (Ken McVay, are you
a
> > > >> : homosexual?) more than 50 times to the same Usenet group?
>
> He is a homo because if he wasn’t he’d denied it by now I’d think.
>
> > > >> It is Usenet abuse to post _anything_ more than 20 times in a 45
day
> > > >> period (aka spamming).
>
> Have you ever considered all of the absolute worthless crap that you
lefties post?
> Have you considered the quality of information that Jeffrey G. Brown,
Steve Wolk,
> DUDALB, Buck Turgidson et al post? You are a damned hypocrite! What they
post is
> no where on topic and does not add to the climate of the newsgroups.
>
> > > >> Howard
> > >
> > > So I take it Tavish approves of your using his name now? Figures….
>
> Why should I care? Your side has been doing it for quite a while now! At
least
> when he is doing it the message is more in the spirit of what I’d say.
Live with
> it Eternal Pest.
>
> Doc Tavish
From [email protected] Thu Feb 3 00:40:34 EST 2000
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“steve wolk” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Oh, Scottikins, you say that to everyone. Obviously, your mouth is a
> lot bigger than your wallet. Is the Schwinn Cessna all greased up and
> ready to roll?
>
> Steve
>
Are you asking Tavish for a date Steve?
From [email protected] Thu Feb 3 00:40:35 EST 2000
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“Michael Ragland” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Apparently, Mr Ellis..through reading Knight’s posts about how Ellis
> activity on this newsgroup was not usenet abuse…thought there might be
> a “spritual connection” between himself and Mr. Knight. Do you feel
> insulted Mr. Knight? You should. I can assure you Mr. Ellis holds you in
> the utmost contempt.
You are wrong.
People have no worth to him unless he can use them.
That is a lie.
> But for the record, let’s run it down once again. Mr. Ellis has been
> posting false headers with subject lines as “Sarah Salzman smells like a
> fish”, “Dees wife is ugly”, “Sara is a whore”, “McVay is gay”, etc.
Look at the headers…it was not me
> Often the address is [email protected]
the address is [email protected]
Ellis has actually forged Ken
> McVay’s addess.
That is a lie.
I’ve seen that a few times as I’m sure some other
> posters have. Ellis’ mind has produced all these posts. Excuse the
> crudity but everyone recognizes the floating turd which refuses to flush
> that is Don’s postings. Not even the revisionists have come to his
> defense to exclaim in revelation, “My goodness, that really is McVay
> saying he is gay,” etc. They just ignore him although Dr. Michael,
> according to posts I’ve read, apparently is revolved by Don’s
> counterfeit postings pretending to be somebody else.
I do not pertend.
Quite honostly, a
> creative and intelligent person could do serious damage by forging
> McVay’s email address and pretending to be him. But Ellis isn’t trying
> to do that, not that he could.
Which is it?
His efforts are so transparent and
> pathological and simple that they merely serve as a means to defame and
> intimidate. And even here he doesn’t do a very good job.
Then why are you complaining?
Let’s hope
> complaints to his upsteam providers have tamed him. But they may not.
> Eventually he may be forging and or defamatory headers on several more
> anti-revisionist posters on alt.revisionism. He may continue to up the
> ante until somebody finally does do something. Mr. Ellis has just enough
> intelligence to be dangerous.
Do you know me?
I agree with McVay’s analysis of him
> devouring himself. That is exactly what he is doing and that’s why he is
> somewhat insane.
you may be right, I may be crazy
—
Don Ellis
> Michael Ragland
>
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From: “Don Ellis” <[email protected]>
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“Andew Skolniick” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Wrong as usual.
>
> I don’t know what you were betting, but you have nothing of interest to
me — so keep
> whatever it was. I don’t want either a trailer home or a 1982 Ford pickup
truck with
> Confederate flag upholstery and an old cloth for a gas cap. Even if you
own something else
> of value, I doubt it would ever be free of your smell. There is a reason
they don’t sell
> fur coats made of skunk skins.
>
> You know, they burned Hitler’s corpse with gasoline 55 years ago. But you
can still smell
> his stench right here on these two newsgroups. Some vile filth
unfortunately seems
> eternal.
>
> Andrew
>
Andrew you’re so full of hate.
From [email protected] Thu Feb 3 13:34:40 EST 2000
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From: “Don Ellis” <[email protected]>
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“James Doemer” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
>
> Mike Kalvatis <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]…
>
> Mike, thanks for preaching, but alt.politics.homosexuality is
> a forum for discussing the political issues surrounding homosexuality.
> Religion is irrelevant to the political issues. Please make your
> posts of a religious nature to an appropriate newsgroup.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
It was John Morris who asked the question, not Mike.
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From: “Don Ellis” <[email protected]>
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“Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, “Jeffery Tavish”
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >”Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]…
> >>
> >> I’d be willing to bet it’s very likely NOT John Brown.
> >>
> >> —
> >> Orac
> >LIKE YOUR NAME IS REALLY ORAC?
>
> No, but my real name is always in my .sig file.
>
> —
> Orac |”A statement of fact cannot be insolent.”–Orac
> a.k.a. |
> David Gorski|”If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?”–Orac again
Let’s see some proof. Is it really your real name?
—
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Like signing them up for over 50 sex mailing lists? That’s what Mr. Ellis
> did to me last night.
>
Your a damn liar. I would like to see the headers myself.
—
Don Ellis
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I have changed names ONCE due to a divorce, from my ex husband’s last name
> (Schwartz) to my maiden name (Salzman).
> Sara
>
I wish he would take you back and maybe you would leave me alone. But then
again I don’t want to wish anything bad on the guy.
—
Don Ellis
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 14:17:41 EST 2000
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HTML FORMAT?
—
Hate Watch of America
http://www.hatewatch.com
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 14:17:41 EST 2000
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> According to today’s newspaper, Catherine Zeta Jones is going to
> convert to Judaism before marrying Michael Douglas.
>
> Sorry, White Boys… you lost another one… 🙂
>
> Sara
I AM NOT WHITE
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 14:17:42 EST 2000
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“Gord McFee” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Don, you’re so full of shit.
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
THEN I HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT SHIT EATER
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 14:17:42 EST 2000
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“Orac” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Michael Ragland) wrote:
>
> >Wasn’t aware of it being bad netiquette. Often, URLs are posted on
> >alt.revisionism but that requires the reader to click on it. If the
> >picture is posted in alt.revisionism (relevant to the topic of
> >discussion) it can suprise the reader and they will see it it WHETHER
> >they want to or not. Don’t they say the Holocaust didn’t happen or
> >minimize it? Photographic evidence of death can be powerful.
> >Regrettably, I’ll probably not be doing this too much anymore because
> >you’ve inferred many have newsreaders which filter these out. But yours
> >didn’t. You didn’t like the picture, did you?
>
> No, it’s certain ISPs that filter out all binary posts to non-binary
newsgroups
> (although I could probably set my newsreader to killfile posts containing
> binaries). This is a good practice, IMHO. In any case, nonbinary
newsgroups are
> given more limited amounts of storage space by most ISPs. Posting big
binaries
> will cause articles on the news server to expire faster by hogging disk
space
> dedicated to that newsgroup. It’s also killer on people who use offline
> newsreaders, because they have to download all those binaries, whether
they look
> at them or not.
BOO HOO
> —
> Orac |”A statement of fact cannot be insolent.”–Orac
> a.k.a. |
> David Gorski|”If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> | inconvenience me with questions?”–Orac again
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KEN MCVAY A PERVERT?
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 14:17:43 EST 2000
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“Fledgist” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> >> —
> >> >> Orac
> >> >LIKE YOUR NAME IS REALLY ORAC?
> >>
> >> No, but my real name is always in my .sig file.
> >>
> >> —
> >> Orac |”A statement of fact cannot be insolent.”–Orac
> >> a.k.a. |
> >> David Gorski|”If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> >> | inconvenience me with questions?”–Orac again
> >
> >Let’s see some proof. Is it really your real name?
> No. His real name is Avon.
>
I CAN BELIEVE THAT
> Fragano Ledgister
> ([email protected])
> Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;
> She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 14:17:43 EST 2000
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REWRITE HISTORY?
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 14:17:44 EST 2000
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I PICK JEWS
“revwhite” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If you had to pick one, which one you pick to be your neighbor?
>
> In His Service,
> RevWhite
> * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network
*
> The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
>
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 14:17:44 EST 2000
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> You know, what fascinates me is that Mr. Ellis is obviously so enamoured
>
> —
STOP STALKING ME
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PHILLIPS DEFEATS BROWN AGAIN
“Richard Phillips” <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]…
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > In article <[email protected]>, Admitted Liar and Village
> > Idiot Richard Philllips <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >> Your “recollection” has been shown to be shot through with more holes
than
> > >> John Dillinger, idiot.
> > >============================================
> > >Phillips
> > >
> > >OK. Tell us one. Just one, Jeffrey.
> >
> > Sure, idiot. Your recollection that you “backed off” your original
demands
> > for documentation of the Nazi gas chambers is in error. You did not
“back
> > off” at all. You drastically expanded the list — and then lied about
> > having done so.
>
> =================================================
> Phillips
>
> I challenged you to name one –only one– original constructive thought
> you had ever contributed to tthis NG. And what did we get? Just another
> shrieking diatribe and one we have already heard fifty times before. Did
> you ever think of trying to say something original. Be like me. Think of
> how I am forever coming up with novel ways of insulting you.
>
> ==========================================================
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >Jeffrey, maybe you have forgotten the time that I posted the dictionary
> > >definition of the word “lie,” challenged you to show how my statements
> > >met the conditions of that definition, only to be told that I could
> > >shove my conditions “where the sun doesn’t shine.”
> >
> > Haven’t forgotten it at all, idiot.
> >
> > Tell me — how does this change the fact that you are a liar?
>
> ==========================================================
> Phillips
>
> It depends on who we are to believe. Jeffrey insists tthat I’m a liar.
> The dictionary says I’m not. Take your choice.
>
> =============================================================
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >Vampires don’t shit…
> >
> > Ah — more facts from the “folk literature”, idiot?
>
> ===================================================
> Phillips
>
> Then it is your position that vampires DO shit?
>
> ==========================================================
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >Well, knowing you were lying…
> >
> > Once again:
> >
> > Repeating one of your old fact-free accusations doesn’t constitute
> > knowledge of much of anything, idiot.
> >
> > You “know” nothing of the sort, idiot. You’re making a claim for which
you
> > have no supporting facts.
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >Then, to further support your position came the plaintive cry: “You
> > >thweatened me.”
> >
> > False. That’s another one of your bogus quotes. I never said that, Liar.
> ==========================================================================
> Phillips
>
> Really now. Next thing you’ll probably do is stand there and deny ever
> having accused me of stealing your ‘watchet wenches.’
>
> =====================================================================
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >The Elmer Fudd intonation was just for effect.
> >
> > Nope. It was a lie. Deal with it, idiot: you’re a pathological liar.
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >But if you deny that you refused, then you’re a liar.
> >
> > False.
> >
> > I never refused.
> >
> > Go ahead, idiot. Show us a post in which I refused to meet your demands.
> =============================================================
> Phillips
>
> Hang yourself higher, little man. I’m delighting in every minute.
>
> =========================================================
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >You’re an alienated kike.
> >
> > False. I’m a fallen-away Methodist.
> ===================================================
> Phillips
>
> No possible way. You have the Kike mindset, you have Kike instincts, you
> have Kike reflexes. Everything about you screams Kike. You see, Jeffrey,
> I know those people because I grew up amongst them. Can’t fool Liar
> Phillips.
>
> ======================================================================
> >
> > > […deletia…]
> >
> > >I’m a patriotic one. America is my country.
> >
> > False. America is the country you want to destroy, to be replaced by a
> > Nazi dictatorship.
>
> ==========================================================
> Phillips
>
> If that is what it takes to ethnically cleanse the Greaseballs, if that
> is what it takes to make America once more a white man’s country, if
> that is what it takes to clean out that male whorehouse that calls
> itself Congress, if that is what it takes to abolish commercial
> television, if that is what it takes to make all political correctness
> go the way of the Prohibition Amendment, if that is what it takes to
> crush the present Jewish stranglehold on public communications, if that
> is what it takes to put an end to the mental disease of Feminism, if
> that is what it takes to shitcan the entire State Department, if that is
> what it takes to make advocacy of Free Trade a hanging offence … if a
> Nazi-style dictatorship is what is needed to bring about these results,
> then let us have a Nazi-style dictatorship.
>
> ==================================================================
> > You’re no patriot at all, idiot. Just a lying bigot who can’t deal with
> > the world as it is, and so wants it to change to meet his own infantile
> > demands.
> >
> > JGB
>
> Liar Phillips: Tell us, Jeffrey. How do you feel about Red China?
> Gibbering Jeffrey: Oh, I think it would be just lovely with a pink
> tablecloth.
>
> ====================================================
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YOU WILL TOO AFTER VIEWING HER PICTURE.
HERE IS HOW SHE DESCRIBES HERSELF:
“But I’m petite and attractive
With a mind bright and active
As you’ll find if we meet face to face”
http://users.uniserve.com/~hostrov/ad.html
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE YOU CAN SEE SHE HER PIC HERE:
http://users.uniserve.com/~hostrov/hilary.gif
OUR UGLY METER RATES HER AT A (1) ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10….AND WE’RE BEING
NICE.
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A FICTION BY ACTIVIST KEN MCVAY
“Kenneth McVay OBC” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Archive/File: camps/auschwitz hilberg.02
> Last-Modified: 1993/11/02
>
> “The Auschwitz procedure evolved in stages. In April 1942, Slovak Jews
> were gassed in Crematorium I, apparently with their clothes on.<66>
> Later, deportees from nearby Sosnowiec were told to undress in the
> yard. The victims, faced by the peremptory order to remove their
> clothes, men in front of women and women in front of men, became
> apprehensive. The SS men, shouting at them, then drove the naked men,
> women and children into the gas chamber.<67> During the third stage, in
> 1942, the abuse was replaced by politeness, and the speech making by
> Aumeier, Grabner and Hossler began. The victims were now told to
> undress for the showers, before the soup that would be served
> afterwards became cold.<68> For added security, gassings would be
> scheduled for a time before daybreak, when the camp inmates were still
> sleeping, or for the night hours, after the curfew had gone into
> effect.<69>
>
> At Birkenau, illusion was the rule. It was not always simple or
> possible, inasmuch as at least some of the deportees had observed the
> sign ‘Auschwitz’ as the train passed through the railway yards,<70> or
> had seen flames belching from the chimneys, or had smelled the
> strange, sickening odor of the crematoria.<71> Most of them, however,
> like a group from Salonika, were funneled through the undressing
> rooms, were told to hang their clothes on hooks and remember the
> number, and promised food after the shower and work after the food.
> The unsuspecting Greek Jews, clutching soap and towels, rushed into
> the gas chambers.<72> Nothing was allowed to disturb this precarious
> synchronization. When a Jewish inmate revealed to newly arrived
> people what was in store for them, he was cremated alive.<73> Only in
> the case of victims who were brought in from nearby ghettos in upper
> Silesia (Sosnowiec and Bedzin) and who had had intimations of
> Auschwitz was speed alone essential. These people were told to
> undress quickly in their ‘own best interest.'<74>
>
> Once there was a major incident in front of an Auschwitz gas chamber.
> A transport that had come in from Belsen revolted. The incident
> occurred when two thirds of the arrivals had already been shoved into
> the gas chamber. The remainder of the transport, still in the
> dressing room, had become suspicious. When three or four SS men
> entered to hasten the undressing, fighting broke out. The light
> cables were torn down, the SS men were overpowered, one of them was
> stabbed, and all of them were deprived of their weapons. As the room
> was plunged into complete darkness, wild shooting started between the
> guard at the exit door and the prisoners inside. When Hoss arrived at
> the scene, he ordered the doors to be shut. Half an hour passed.
> Then, accompanied by a guard, Hoss stepped into the dressing room,
> carrying a flashlight and pushing the prisoners into one corner. From
> there they were taken out singly into another room and shot.<75>
>
> Selections were carried out not only on the platform, in order to pick
> out deportees who would be able to work, but also within the camp, to
> eliminate inmates too sick or too weak to work any longer. The usual
> occasion for the choosing of victims was the roll call, where
> everybody was present;<76> another place was the hospital;<77> and
> sometimes selections were carried out block by block.<78> One former
> inmate, recalling such targeting, says: ‘I tried to make myself as
> inconspicuous as possible, not too erect, yet not slouching,; not too
> smart, yet not too sloppy; not too proud, yet not too servile, for I
> knew that those who were different died in Auschwitz, while the
> anonymous, the faceless ones, survived.'<79> A young intellectual from
> Italy, who was in an Auschwitz hospital because of a swollen foot, was
> told by a gentile Polish inmate: ‘Du Jude, kaputt. Du schnell
> Krematorium fertig [You Jew, finished. You soon ready for
> crematorium].'<80> In Treblinka, to have been bruised in the face was
> considered a calamity. The wounded man, ‘stamped’ (gestempelt), was a
> candidate for selection at the next roll call.<81>
>
> In Auschwitz the victims would try every subterfuge to escape. They
> tried to hide. Occasionally they tried to argue. A nineteen-year-old
> girl asked the Auschwitz women’s camp commander, Hossler, to excuse
> her. He replied, ‘You have lived long enough. Come, my child,
> come.'<82> Driven by whips between cordons of Kapos and guards, the
> naked people who had been picked out were loaded on trucks and driven
> to the gas chambers or to a condemned block. Before Christmas in
> 1944, 2,000 women were packed into Block 25, which had room for 500.
> They were kept there for ten days. Soup cauldrons were pushed through
> a gap in the door by a fire guard. At the end of ten days, 700 were
> dead. The rest were gassed.<83>
>
> Gassing would begin with a command. At Treblinka a German would shout
> to a Ukranian guard: ‘Ivan, water!’ This was a signal to start the
> motor.<84> The procedure was not necessarily fast. With no room to move
> in the small chambers, the victims stood for thirty or forty minutes
> before they died. According to one Treblinka survivor, people were
> sometimes kept in the chambers all night without the motor being
> turned on.<85> At Belzec, where Oberscharfurer Hackenholt was in charge
> of the motor, a German visitor, Professor Pfannenstiel, wanted to know
> what was going on inside. He is said to have put his ear to the wall
> and, listening, to have remarked: ‘Just like in a synagogue.'<86> At
> Kulmhof, the doors to the van were closed by Polish workers. One was
> inadvertently locked in with the Jews and raged in despair to get out.
> The Germans decided that it would not be prudent to open the door for
> him.<87>
>
> When the Auschwitz victims filed into the gas chamber, they discovered
> that the imitation showers did not work.88 Outside, a central switch
> was pulled to turn off the lights,89 and a Red Cross car drove up with
> the Zyklon.<90> An SS man, wearing a gas mask fitted with a special
> filter, lifted the glass shutter over the lattice and emptied one can
> after another into the gas chamber. Although the lethal dose was one
> milligram per kilogram of body weight and the effect was supposed to be
> rapid, dampness could retard the speed with which the gas was
> spreading.<91> Untersturmfuhrer Grabner, political officer of the camp,
> stood ready with stopwatch in hand.<92> As the first pellets sublimated
> on the floor of the chamber, the victims began to scream. To escape
> from the rising gas, the stronger knocked down the weaker, stepping on
> prostrate victims in order to prolong their own lives by reaching
> gas-free layers of air. The agony lasted for about two minutes, and
> as the shrieking subsided, the dying people slumped over. Within
> fifteen minutes (sometimes five), everyone in the gas chamber was
> dead.
>
> The gas was now allowed to escape and after about half an hour, the
> door was opened. The bodies were found in tower-like heaps, some in
> sitting or half-sitting positions, children and older people at the
> bottom. Where the gas had been introduced, there was an empty area
> from which the victims had backed away, and pressed against the door
> were the bodies of men who in terror had tried to break out. The
> corpses were pink in color, with green spots. Some had foam on the
> lips, others bled through the nose. Excrement and urine covered some
> of the bodies, and in some pregnant women the birth process had
> started. The Jewish work parties (Sonderkommandos), wearing gas
> masks, dragged out the bodies near the door to clear a path and hosed
> down the dead, at the same time soaking the pockets of poison gas
> remaining between the bodies. Then the Sonderkommandos had to pry the
> corpses apart.<93>
>
> In all the camps bodily cavities were searched for hidden valuables,
> and gold teeth were extracted from the mouths of the dead. In
> Crematorium II (new number) at Birkenau, the fillings and gold teeth,
> sometimes attached to jaws, were cleaned in hydrochloric acid, to be
> melted into bars in the main camp.94 At Auschwitz the hair of the
> women was cut off after they were dead. It was washed in ammonium
> chloride before being packed.<95> The bodies could then be cremated.”
> (Hilberg, 967-976)
>
> Hilberg’s end notes follow:
>
> 66. Muller, Eyewitness Auschwitz, pp. 11-13.
> 67. Ibid., pp.31-35.
> 68. Ibid., pp.35-39.
> 69. Ibid., p.39.
> 70. Elie Wiesel, Night (New York, 1969), p. 36. Interrogation of
> Hilse, Case Novak, vol. 12, p. 605. According to Hilse,
> transports passed through the station. The freight yards,
> consisting of forty-four parallel tracks, were two miles
long.
> 71. Lengyel, Five Chimneys, p.22.
> 72. Muller, Eyewitness Aushchwitz, pp.80-81.
> 73. Ibid, p.80.
> 74. Ibid, pp.69-71.
> 75. Affidavit by Hoss, March 14, 1946, NO-1210. The incident
> is described in greater detail by Muller, Eyewitness
Auschwitz,
> pp.83-89. Muller credits a seductive, strikingly
good-looking
> Jewish woman with riveting the attention of two SS men. She
> struck one with a shoe, drew his pistol and shot the other
> (Schillinger). Tadeusz Borowski, a Polish inmate, describes
the
> incident in a story, ‘The Death of Schillinger,’ This Way to
the
> Gas Ladies and Gentlemen (New York, 1976), pp. 143-146. In
this
> version, the woman, already naked, picked up gravel, threw it
at
> Schillinger, and shot him with his own pistol. The SS man,
> mortally wounded, was carried to a car and, groaning, was
heard
> to say: ‘O Gott, mein Gott, was hab’ ich getan, dass ich so
> leiden muss? [God, oh God, what have I done that I have
> to suffer like this?].’
> 76. Lengyel, Five Chimneys, p. 40. Gisela Perl, I Was a
> Doctor in Auschwitz (New York, 1948), p. 103.
> 77. Lingens-Reiner, Prisoners of Fear, pp.64-65, 82-83, 85.
> Perl, I Was a Doctor in Auschwitz, pp.55, 94, 108-9.
> 78. Perl, Ibid., pp.128-30.
> 79. Rudolf Vrba and Alan Bestic, I Cannot Forgive (New York,
> 1964), p. 140. Vrba, anonymous but not average, escaped from
the
> camp.
> 80. Primo Levi, Survival in Auschwitz (New York, 1961), p.44.
> 81. Ruckerl, NS-Vernichtungslager, p. 230.
> 82. Testimony by Helene Klein in Raymond Phillips, ed., Trial
> of Josef Kramer, (London, 1949), pp.127-30. The witness
herself
> was given this answer by Hossler, but she managed to hide. A
> survivor, Dr. Bertold Epstein, once witnessed a selection of
> children in which the decisive criterion was height. The
> children marched up to a pole at the height of 4 feet and
3.18
> inches. Those who did not make it were gassed. Friedman,
> Oswiecim, p. 72.
> 83. Ella Lingens-Reiner, Prisoners of Fear, (London, 1948),
> pp. 85-86.
> 84. Ruckerl, NS-Vernichtungslager, p. 224.
> 85. Wiernik, ‘One Year, ‘ in Donat, Treblinka, p. 164.
> 86. Statement by Gerstein, April 26, 1945, PS-1553.
> Pfannestiel confirms that he was in Belzec in Gerstein, but
denies
> having made the remark. Statements by Dr. Wilhelm
Pfannenstiel,
> June 6, 1950, and November 9, 1952, Belzec case, vol. 1,
pp.41-44,
> 135-141. German personnel stationed in Belzec would
sometimes
> look through the peephole. Statement by Schluch, November
10,
> 1961, Belzec case, vol. 8, pp. 1503-25. Pfannenstiel points
out
> in his statement of November 9, 1952, that when he tried to
look
> he could not see much, because the Jews had beaten on the
glass.
> 87. Ruckerl, NS-Vernichtungslager, pp. 270-71.
> 88. Sehn, ‘Oswiecim, ‘German Crimes in Poland, vol. 1, p.85.
> 89. Affidavit by Dr. Nikolae Nyiszli (survivor), October 8,
> 1947, N1-11710.
> 90. Ibid, Affidavit by Dr. Charles Sigismund Bendel
> (survivor). October 21, 1945, N1-11390.
> 91. Hoss, Kommandant, p. 171. Muller, Eyewitness Auschwitz,
> p. 116.
> 92. Affidavit by Perry Broad (SS man working under Grabner),
> December 14, 1945, N1-11397.
> 93. Muller, Eyewitness Auschwitz, pp. 116-18. Affidavit by
> Nyiszli, October 8, 1947, N1-11710. Affidavit by Broad,
> December 14, 1945, N1-11397. Affidavit by Hoss, April 5,
> 1946, PS-3868. Sehn, ‘Oswiecim, ‘German Crimes in Poland,
> vol. 1, pp. 85-87.
> 94. Muller, Eyewitness Auschwitz, pp. 68, 95, 100, 176.
> 95. Ibid., pp. 65, 95, 100.
>
> Work Cited
>
> Hilberg, Raul. The Destruction of the European Jews. Holmes & Meier, 1985.
>
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> Tavish……
>
> SHUT THE FUCK UP
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> He apparently disapproves of accusations of perversion (even when they are
> supported by evidence).
>
> David
>
THAT SOUNDS LIKE JEFFERY BROWN
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> Predict what you like. It’s already been established that you’ll be
> remembered as the bigot who lied.
>
> JGB
>
AND YOU AS A CHICKEN HAWK
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> True. But they were killed either as soldiers or as a consequence of
> military action. >
YES, BUT AT LEAST THEY GOT OFF THEIR ASS AND DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND NOW
THE “FEARLESS” JEWS ARE CONDUCTING THEIR OWN CONTINENT WIDE ETHNIC CLEANSING
OF PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH THEM
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Thanks Anon,
If you have anymore articles like this please send them to us.
We are constructing a web site special to Ken McVay.
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> Several years ago
> In Vancouver B.C.
> The Jews sought a man
> Who was very P.C.
>
> One who would bootlick
> Grovel and pander
> And strongly attack
> Any anti-Jew slander
>
> Many folks applied
> Only one met the test
> A wimpy little guy
> Known to many as a pest
>
> This strange little man said
> “Call me Ken McVay”
> Some of the Jews thought
> He seemed a little gay
>
> He told all assembled
> “I’m a gas pump attendant
> But look how I’m wearing
> a Satr of David pendant”
>
> “And I’m really not a fag
> That’s just a silly rumor
> Started by some Nazis
> With their odd sense of humor”
>
> “You’re hired!” said the Jews
> And McVay jumped for joy
> And the chosen ones knew
> He’d be a good little goy
>
> Now he runs Nizkor
> Bashing Nazis all day
> But not saying a word
> When asked if he’s gay
>
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Thanks Anon,
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We are constructing a web site special to Ken McVay.
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“Anonymous remailer” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Several years ago
> In Vancouver B.C.
> The Jews sought a man
> Who was very P.C.
>
> One who would bootlick
> Grovel and pander
> And strongly attack
> Any anti-Jew slander
>
> Many folks applied
> Only one met the test
> A wimpy little guy
> Known to many as a pest
>
> This strange little man said
> “Call me Ken McVay”
> Some of the Jews thought
> He seemed a little gay
>
> He told all assembled
> “I’m a gas pump attendant
> But look how I’m wearing
> a Star of David pendant”
>
> “And I’m really not a fag
> That’s just a silly rumor
> Started by some Nazis
> With their odd sense of humor”
>
> “You’re hired!” said the Jews
> And McVay jumped for joy
> And the chosen ones knew
> He’d be a good little goy
>
> Now he runs Nizkor
> Bashing Nazis all day
> But not saying a word
> When asked if he’s gay
>
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“Doc Tavish” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> On 4-Feb-2000, Richard Phillips <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[email protected]>, Admitted Liar and Village
> > > Idiot Richard Philllips <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >> Your “recollection” has been shown to be shot through with more
holes than
> > > >> John Dillinger, idiot.
> > > >============================================
> > > >Phillips
> > > >
> > > >OK. Tell us one. Just one, Jeffrey.
> > >
> > > Sure, idiot. Your recollection that you “backed off” your original
demands
> > > for documentation of the Nazi gas chambers is in error. You did not
“back
> > > off” at all. You drastically expanded the list — and then lied about
> > > having done so.
> >
> > =================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > I challenged you to name one –only one– original constructive thought
> > you had ever contributed to tthis NG. And what did we get? Just another
> > shrieking diatribe and one we have already heard fifty times before. Did
> > you ever think of trying to say something original. Be like me. Think of
> > how I am forever coming up with novel ways of insulting you.
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >Jeffrey, maybe you have forgotten the time that I posted the
dictionary
> > > >definition of the word “lie,” challenged you to show how my
statements
> > > >met the conditions of that definition, only to be told that I could
> > > >shove my conditions “where the sun doesn’t shine.”
> > >
> > > Haven’t forgotten it at all, idiot.
> > >
> > > Tell me — how does this change the fact that you are a liar?
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > It depends on who we are to believe. Jeffrey insists tthat I’m a liar.
> > The dictionary says I’m not. Take your choice.
> >
> > =============================================================
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >Vampires don’t shit…
> > >
> > > Ah — more facts from the “folk literature”, idiot?
> >
> > ===================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > Then it is your position that vampires DO shit?
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >Well, knowing you were lying…
> > >
> > > Once again:
> > >
> > > Repeating one of your old fact-free accusations doesn’t constitute
> > > knowledge of much of anything, idiot.
> > >
> > > You “know” nothing of the sort, idiot. You’re making a claim for which
you
> > > have no supporting facts.
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >Then, to further support your position came the plaintive cry: “You
> > > >thweatened me.”
> > >
> > > False. That’s another one of your bogus quotes. I never said that,
Liar.
> >
==========================================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > Really now. Next thing you’ll probably do is stand there and deny ever
> > having accused me of stealing your ‘watchet wenches.’
> >
> > =====================================================================
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >The Elmer Fudd intonation was just for effect.
> > >
> > > Nope. It was a lie. Deal with it, idiot: you’re a pathological liar.
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >But if you deny that you refused, then you’re a liar.
> > >
> > > False.
> > >
> > > I never refused.
> > >
> > > Go ahead, idiot. Show us a post in which I refused to meet your
demands.
> > =============================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > Hang yourself higher, little man. I’m delighting in every minute.
> >
> > =========================================================
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >You’re an alienated kike.
> > >
> > > False. I’m a fallen-away Methodist.
> > ===================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > No possible way. You have the Kike mindset, you have Kike instincts, you
> > have Kike reflexes. Everything about you screams Kike. You see, Jeffrey,
> > I know those people because I grew up amongst them. Can’t fool Liar
> > Phillips.
> >
> > ======================================================================
> > >
> > > > […deletia…]
> > >
> > > >I’m a patriotic one. America is my country.
> > >
> > > False. America is the country you want to destroy, to be replaced by a
> > > Nazi dictatorship.
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > If that is what it takes to ethnically cleanse the Greaseballs, if that
> > is what it takes to make America once more a white man’s country, if
> > that is what it takes to clean out that male whorehouse that calls
> > itself Congress, if that is what it takes to abolish commercial
> > television, if that is what it takes to make all political correctness
> > go the way of the Prohibition Amendment, if that is what it takes to
> > crush the present Jewish stranglehold on public communications, if that
> > is what it takes to put an end to the mental disease of Feminism, if
> > that is what it takes to shitcan the entire State Department, if that is
> > what it takes to make advocacy of Free Trade a hanging offence … if a
> > Nazi-style dictatorship is what is needed to bring about these results,
> > then let us have a Nazi-style dictatorship.
> >
> > ==================================================================
> > > You’re no patriot at all, idiot. Just a lying bigot who can’t deal
with
> > > the world as it is, and so wants it to change to meet his own
infantile
> > > demands.
> > >
> > > JGB
> >
> > Liar Phillips: Tell us, Jeffrey. How do you feel about Red China?
> > Gibbering Jeffrey: Oh, I think it would be just lovely with a pink
> > tablecloth.
> >
> > ====================================================
>
> Well I guess this means that ol’ Jeffrey G. Brown wants to gobble
Richard’s cock!
>
JEFFERY DOESN’T CARE WHO’S COCK IT IS, AS LONG AS IT’S IN HIS MOUTH HE IS A
HAPPY FAG.
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KEN, WHO DID YOU MEET WITH IN THAT FAG BAR? WAS IT JEFFERY?
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WHY DID YOU MAKE A HASTY FILGHT FROM AMERICA…WHO ARE YOU RUNNING FROM?
From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 23:29:44 EST 2000
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I’M WORKING ON SOME HOLOCAUST SHIT.
PLEASE SEND MONEY……
I’M PUMPING GAS FOR 300 BUCKS A WEEK AND I HATE THIS JOB
PLEASE SEND MONEY……
THE DRINKS AT THE FAG BAR ARE EXPENSIVE
PLEASE SEND MONEY……
DAMN, I THINK I HAVE AIDS
PLEASE SEND MONEY
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Asshole.
>
> —
DICK STALKER
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> False. It’ll prove that there are X posts archived under my name at
> Deja.com. But since you’ve failed to take into account the year-long
> sporgery attack on this and other newsgroups, it proves nothing about the
> number of posts I personally made.
>
> JGB
BOO HOO…GO SUCK YOUR MOMMA’S TITS
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> prove it. List every single forgery. Then I will modify the count.
> Mike
HEY MIKE, IGNORE THE BIG FUCKING CRY BABY
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SEND MONEY….
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“dudalb” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> BTW you guys lost….just thought you might like to know….And if you
keep
> up your obnoxious bigoted posts we Damnyankees might have to go down there
> again like we did with General Sherman…..
>
>
YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER. ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE FOUGHT IN THE CIVIL WAR IS
FUCKING DEAD YOU DUMBASS YANKEE FAGGOT. YOU HOLOHOAX COCKSUCKER ARE STILL
LIVING IN THE PAST. UPGRADE…UPDATE…OR JUST PLAIN FUCKING DIE.
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I ran across this….Just shows how McVay will stab his own people in
the back just to make a name for himself. What a pity.
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I’m Cecelia and I actually did post this to soc.culture.jewish awhile
back. And Ken, it is spelled “Cecelia” not “Cecilia.” You and I go
back to 1991, before you founded Nizkor, Ken. You should know how to
properly spell my name. And I am part of the history of Nizkor, Ken,
yet you pretend to have just barely heard of me.
I sent you in materials and you used them, but did not credit me as
the source. These concerned much material on Willis Carto and some key
information on Fred Leuchter’s patents, engineering ethics, chemistry
(to refute Fred Leuchter’s claims) etc.
In fact, you ignored my material on Carto for many e-mails until one
day, one of them clicked something in you. *then* you posted a request
to your <[email protected]> mailing list (to which I was one of
the original subscribers) which went defunct long before the founding
of Nizkor asking for info on Willis Carto. Then after a while longer,
due in significant part, to the info *I* sent you on Carto, you then
made him a very big project of yours, the topic of a whole long FAQ
even.
The stuff on Leuchter’s patents also received no ack from you. Yet,
one day long past, I was browsing the Jerusalem1 server in Israel and
noticed there was a section on Revisionism there. It was mainly or
perhaps solely a mirror of your pre-Nizkor anti-Revisionist website. I
forget what you called it. THERE, under a subdirectory on Leuchter,
was verbatim my e-mail to you on Leuchter’s patents. But the header
was stripped off. See, Ken, you saw value in this information, but you
did not see value in me as the source. It was only after I complained
to your webmaster, Jamie McCarthy, that you revised that page to
include the original headers of the msg. For other e-mail msgs I saw
on the Jerusalem1 mirror such as ones from Danny Keren, you left the
headers intact. But mine? Oh well.
And the chemistry and physics material I sent you to refute Leuchter’s
claims, you totally ignored, so I gave up sending you additional
material. Yet, later, the same information appeared in your site with
a Brian Harmon being given great accolades by you for providing it to
you. Brian did indeed provide the info to you at a later date than I
did, but it was the same info I had offered to you. From Brian, it was
not only worth your repeating, but you also saw fit to give im credit.
Yes, his was in more detail, but I think when he sent in the initial
stuff, you encouraged him to send in more, so he did. I was not so
fortunate to get encouraged.
Oh, and medical information I sent you to refute specific claims of
deniers you also ignored.
One time, I and Jamie McCarthy sent you material together (the I
obtained alone). This was concerning what “Murungu” means in Shona (a
southern African Bantu language – an Internet National Socialist used
the nickname of “Murungu” so that was why I offered to Jamie an
explanation of what this word means). *This* you put on your Nizkor
site. But the fact that Jamie was the one I approached with the info
instead of you made a difference.
Jamie eventually resigned from Nizkor. It was soon after that that
soc.culture.jewish.holocaust went dead. Jamie was doing the technical
work for you while you over-moderated the content. Without Jamie’s
technical help, you could no longer run soc.culture.jewish.holocaust,
so you let it lie fallow rather than let some other moderator take
over to keep it active.
Recently, soc.culture.jewish.holocaust came back to life. And guess
what. It is back under the care of one or more of the original
founders — that is, the people who ran it out of a University of
North Carolina server before they no longer had time to devote to it
(and when you then took it over).
Why, Ken, do you treat me like such dirt? I think it had a lot to do
with the fact that I want to empower and enable people while you want
to dominate and control. And the fact my learning style is to get
varied info from a variety of sources rather than just mindlessly
learn from just one (and one on your exact wavelenght) has also a lot
to do with it. And the fact that I do not want to bit the head off of
every Revisionist I meet or see has much to do with it too.
My approach is far different than yours. I seek to understand and
elucidate while you seek to punish and reek revenge. I seek to prevent
future Revisionism before it starts by elucidating *why* people become
Revs in the first place and providing viable alternatives to satisfy
the same needs such people seek and find in Revisionism. You, by
contrast, seek to hunt them down, “expose” them, discredit them and
equate each and every one of them with hard-core Jew-haters. I seek to
humanize whilst you seek to dehumanize them.
Oh, and the fact that I know what Revisionism is (and is *not*) from
the *inside out* instead of from the outside letting my prejudices
dictate to me what is inside — that has a lot to do with it too.
I was potentially a very valuable resource to you, Ken. But you did
not want elucidation and alternatives and causes of Rev that do not
fit your preconceived notions.
(According to you, each and every person who becomes a Rev does so out
of evil motives, specifically, Jew-hating motives — but I posited
motives like trying to find relief from a Shoah that is too hard to
bear and further posited that Germans both American-born and
European-born are at much greater risk to become Rev’s due to a need
to seek shelter from the guilt — guilt which is big enought as it is,
but gets amplified further by anti-German bigots. THIS vital info YOU
did not want to HEAR.)
If I had offered to name you names of all the in-the-closet Revs I
knew and to give you private personal information on the
publicly-Revisionist people I know (I mean information they would want
kept private), maybe then you would have seen me as a valuable
resource, Ken. But this too is not my style. I would relate other
Revisionist’s experiences to you but with all identifying information
expunged. You did not like that Ken. Names, addresses, employers you
would have wanted. Traumatic anti-German childhood and young adult
experiences you did not want.
Along the same lines, you once put out a call for any information
anybody knows about Arthur Butz (a Revisionist who is also an
engineering prof). I offered you lots of info about what he has done
engineering-wise and professor-wise. I also has publicly-available
family background info to submit once I saw how you responded to the
engineering and professor info. But you just e-mailed me back with a
rude letter saying you are not interested in the engineering aspects
of Butz. See, Ken, you only wanted DIRT on Butz. You did not want
NORMAL information that is essential for a full and complete
understanding of Arthur Robert Butz.
Interestingly enough, I later read Deborah Lipstadt’s chapter on Butz
in her _Denying the Holocaust_. Some of it was *wrong.* The correct
info was in the stuff I sent you and you pooh-poohed and in the stuff
I was waiting to send you, but did not. Seems like Lipstadt would have
been interested in seeing the stuff *before* her book went to press —
it would have saved her errors.
Have you been in contact with Lipstadt as she as still working on
_Denying the Holocaust_, Ken? See now how you could have received all
the info I had on Butz (not just the dirt) and then alerted Lipstadt
about it. Lipstadt could have then contacted me (that is, if you would
have been decent enough to credit me as the source) and seen what I
had for herself and then go and review the direct sources from whence
I got the info in the first place. These were not insider Revisionist
sources. These were publicly available sources. She could then have
written the final draft of _Denying_ to reflect this all. Now, she has
gone on record as making some basic errors on basic biographical info
on not only Butz, but also on App (to whom she also devotes a whole
chapter).
I then e-mailed you for advice on how I correct these errors without
making Deborah Lipstadt sound foolish. You pooh-poohed the notion that
I could be right and Lipstadt be wrong. To bad, Ken.
Actually I was wrong to have ever tried to seek such advice from you
in the first place. I already knew what you were like, but at the
time, you were for all practical purposes, all I had.
So, you unilaterally decided that my massive, but “normal” information
on Butz was not worth knowing and not worth passing on to scholars
researching Holocaust denial. But, I suppose, in addtion to thinking
you speak for each and every participant of <can.politics,
van.general, can.general, and bc.general> (such as by posting “Knoll
speaks for none of us” with the “us” meaning all the participants of
the said NGs), you think can speak for Lipstadt and also but make her
decisions for her. Too bad.
So I had little value to you, Ken. Too bad. What I know, in the right
hands, is invaluable for the very same “combat the Holocaust deniers”
work you so sincerely and diligently devote yourself to. But you
methodology is so different from mine that I even had to put your
phrase “combat the Holocaust deniers” in quote marks because it is so
different from what I feel when I think of reducing the phenonomon of
Holocaust denial. I do not want to “combat” Holocaust deniers who are
sincere disbelievers of the Shoah. I just want to provide viable
alternatives and to combat the *causes* of people seeking solace or an
outlet in Revisionism.
Thanks to people like you, Ken, there is at this time a dire poverty
of viable alternatives to Revisionism. Thanks to you and your ilk,
people like me and Werner Knoll are faced with two extremes — yours
(which actually deserves the label “Holocaust Lobby”) and radical
Revisionism’s.
At the very same time you and your ilk seek to suppress the truth
about why we turn to Rev, some of those who run radical Revisionism
(Carto, Mark Weber, Hans Schmidt) understand *very well* the needs of
people like me, Werner Knoll, hundreds of thousands of American and
Canadian Germans to include Ernst Zu”ndel. And they meet our needs and
lure us into Revisionism (Zu”ndel was so lured in Toronto years ago)
with these met needs. Once there, an effort is on to lure us into
hard-core Jew-hating circles (they so lured Zu”ndel).
With me, all the further they got me was Revisionism. The “Holocaust
Lobby” then did much to drive me towards hard-core Nazism. It is only
to my credit I did not go. Don’t say if I resisted anybody could. I am
made of some pretty tough stuff. If most people, including Ken, were
subjected to what “the Holocaust Lobby” subjected me to since 1990
when I first “came out,” they would be neo-Nazis. Like I said, this
included Ken. I will not say all the things they put me through here.
Maybe I will publicly say it another time or in another venue and
maybe I will not.
With Werner, I cannot tell from just the few posts I read if he had
been lured as far as actually into Revisionism or not. But I can see
that he is “at risk.” But Ken, with your posts, you are increasing the
risk. “At risk” does not mean “evil” either, Ken. Do not blame the
victims. We too are victims and survivors of the Shoah.
And I myself am also a victim from a Jewish point of view, Ken. But
you were so busy trashing me the ways the Germans part of my heritage
made me ‘at risk’ that you never even let me tell you I am also Jewish
and very much like a Hidden Child first generation Jewish Shoah
survivor and very much like a Second Generation Jewish Shoah survivor.
It is your own prejudice which did not let you see THESE traits in me,
Ken. That plus the fact you are a Goy. The JEWISH rage in me never
spoken about a huge portion of my people cut off, my JEWISH mourning,
you never heard. Had I gotten a different e-mail account and showed
you the Jewish rage and mourning within me, you would have liked that
other persona, huh, Ken.
But stuff like this (stated before the above paragraph) Ken, you do
not want to hear because according to your preconceived notions, we
START OUT AS hard-core Jew-haters and then pretend to be like normal
people to assimilate out and infiltrate normal society to inject our
poison into it with our “tricks of the deniers.” This is actually true
for some people who *claim* to be Revisionists such as Willis Carto.
But for many of us, the exact percentage I do not know due to lack of
formal academic studies I would like to see done, the truth is just
the opposite of what you presuppose.
Lots of people start off with a pre-conceived notion, Ken, including
myself. But real scholars and real researchers and real advocates do
not selectively cleave to or selectively ignore new information that
confirms or denies respectively our preconceived notions and initial
hypotheses. (If you are such a great and wonderful real researcher and
educator of the Shoah, Ken, then how come you did not last very long
on the academic holocaus mailing list on a server at the University of
Illinois at Chicago (UIC), where many real Shoah scholars and many
real Shoah survivors participated? (The list is now called <holocaust>
and is on a different server.) Either you got unsubscribed by the
owners or you unsubscribed yourself in disgust that that real Shoah
scholarship forum did not gobble up your polemics.
But you refuse to see many of the critical points I make in this post.
You have seen most of them in the 1991 to 1997 timespan (with a gap)
many times, so you have had opportunity to consider them. And due to
your refusal, you actually drive more people into Revisionism or
deeper into Revisionism or into hard-core Jew-hatred with the very
efforts you expend to “combat the Holocast deniers/neo-Nazis.”
Such is a travesty. But such is also reality. People like you are part
of the real world we all have to deal with.
Cecelia Plechinger
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“dudalb” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Doug Devers goes into my Nazi Lovers file…
HEY YOU DUMB FUCK….WORLD WAR 2 IS OVER….NAZI’S DEFEATED.
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS
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“dudalb” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Some troll called Holohoax II wrote:
> YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER. ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE FOUGHT IN THE CIVIL WAR IS
> FUCKING DEAD YOU DUMBASS YANKEE FAGGOT. YOU HOLOHOAX COCKSUCKER ARE STILL
> LIVING IN THE PAST. UPGRADE…UPDATE…OR JUST PLAIN FUCKING DIE.
>
> Guess he does not understand the concept of humor and sarcasm very well,
> does he?
NO I DON’T…
> As for living in the past, tell some of the Neo Confederates to upgrade up
> deat or just plain die….
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NEO CONFEDERATES
YOU’RE A GODDAMN IDIOT
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“Jeffrey G. Brown” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Your failure to provide any evidence to support your assertions, and
> your attempt to divert attention from that failure, are noted.
>
> JGB
TAKE YOUR NOTE AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR FAGGOT CHILD MOLESTING ASSHOLE
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“Sara Salzman” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, Confederate Mike
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Sara Schwartz, have you considered marrying Jeffrey G. Brown?
> >Seriously, both of you never post anything original, just name call.
> >Or does McVay have you under stricts order not to post anything that
> >he can’t take credit for?
> >
> >Mike
> 1. My name is not Sara Schwartz.
REALLY? THEN WHY DID YOU REPLY TO HIS QUESTION?
> 2. Where’s that proof that my husband “walked out on me”?
DID HE CATCH YOU SCREWING AROUND?
> I didn’t think so….
>
> Sara
>
> —
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:
>
> Calling me a “nazi-boy” is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it “Fatbroad”.
>
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“Michael Ragland” <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Do you think pussy smells like fish. Well, I’ve licked and chewed some
> good hairy pussy and when its clean Tavish 1 and 2 it doesn’t smell like
> smelly fish. I don’t think either of you are in a position to know Ms.
> Salzman’s hygiene or sex life. So why do you make references to it?
>
> Michael Ragland
>
ONLY A STUPID NASTY MOTHER FUCKER LIKE YOU WOULD ADMIT TO SHIT LIKE THIS. I
DON’T CARE IF YOU WASHED IT WITH AJAX, LICKING AND CHEWING ON A HAIRY PUSSY
IS GODDAMN NASTY. I BET YOU SUCK AND CHEW ON DICKS TOO, YOU PERVERTED
COCKSUCKER.
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