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From [email protected] Fri Oct 23 19:36:53 EDT 1998
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Subject: JEW NAZIS! Expose Them in Australia!!!
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:47:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:26:43, kenoy wrote:
>
>>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES
>
>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.
>-88-

From [email protected] Fri Oct 23 19:39:13 EDT 1998
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Subject: JEW Thieves Scream Anti-semitism When Caught!!!
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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:42 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP wrote:
>
>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London’s History
>
>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>
>>>Revealed: The men accused in
>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>
>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters
>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was
>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank
>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at
>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>
>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has
>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest
>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>
>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38,
>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their
>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>
>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of
>>>what Mr Field described as ‘an extended family’ about
>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing
>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed
>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by
>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage
>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>
>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with
>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members
>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used
>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>
>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the
>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill,
>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation
>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>
>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter,
>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight
>>>to clear his name.
>
>>>’This investigation is without foundation and is a complete
>>>waste of taxpayers’ money,’ he insisted. ‘All of our finances
>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>
>>>’It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism.
>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent
>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to
>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>
>>>’When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a
>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed.
>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.’
>
>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached
>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: ‘He has no
>>>comment to make.’ Eichenstein lists his official home
>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home
>>>where his wife and children live.
>
>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm
>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of
>>>the men’s companies con-firmed that they had been contacted
>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing
>>>to examine their records.
>
>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a
>>>network of companies and properties associated
>>>with the family.
>
>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein
>>>are within a stone’s throw of each other on the Stamford
>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties
>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein’s home.
>
>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties
>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>
>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a
>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling
>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>
>>>Police activity is all but non-existent – patrol cars are
>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related
>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the
>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>
>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to
>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to
>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the
>>>end of this month.
>
>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids
>>>on four houses in April – is seen by Mr Field as the first
>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>
>>>Ministers have decided that they want to ‘name and shame’
>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a
>>>’revival of common decencies’.
>
>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised
>>>housing benefit rackets in London – an initiative which
>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>
>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting
>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious
>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of
>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and
>>>other cities in Britain.
>
>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime
>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>
>>>The Minister said: ‘We are going for the big boys, while
>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much
>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in
>>>Britain today.’
>
>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31
>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite
>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong
wrote:

>The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>
>A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>
>The Jews’ physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>why Jews are disliked.
>
>In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>
>Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>with them.
>
>The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>aid.
>
>The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>billion/year of US taxpayers’ money continues to be sent to Israel as
>foreign aid.
>
>The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>
>The Jews stole the Palestinians’ homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>the Jews.
>
>In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the “anti-semitism” they are
>always complaining about.

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong
wrote:

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On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 09:58:42 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>The Jewish Salami wrote:
>>
>> >>>The Germans will
>> >>>not deny Nazism came from their midsts but why do Jews so vehemently deny
>> >>>that Bolshevism and Its Communism rose from their ranks?
>> >
>> >
>> Where have you been, little putz? Who denies that Jews had a great
>> role in the rise of Communism? Every intellectual movement in Europe
>> has been started by Jews. I think it’s great that Jews were
>> instrumental in overthrowing the filthy czarist government and usher
>> in the Soviet Union. Communism does not disappear just because of the
>> temporary ascendancy of the merchant nations.
>>
>> No, we will try again, and again, and again, and again until we get it
>> right. As far as Poland is concerned, they deserved what the Russians
>> gave them for their filty, lousy treatment of the Jews. I do not
>> regret the Katyn massacre or the 69 Days that Marshal Zhukov waited
>> before taking Warsaw. The Poles needed a good weeding for their
>> perfidy. Imagine, the Poles murdered those Jews who survived the
>> death camps and returned to claim their possessions, stolen by the
>> Poles who had denounced them! Poland will pay for this for a long
>> time to come. It is not forgotten …
>
>
>All senior positions in the Soviet Communist heirarchy were controlled
>by the damned JEWS!!!

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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:48:04 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:09:51 -0800, “((((())))))”
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>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that involving
>>a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have, are
>>generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’ about
>>negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for money and
>>military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’ by the Supreme
>>Court of Israel.
>>
>> The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British Medical
>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse certain
>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence.
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews
>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the number is
>>still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was
>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann
>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers…Kastner went
>>to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took
>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining
>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben Hecht, Perfidy,
>>pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’ published in
>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands
>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted
>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere…In obedience to
>>Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest…Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a
>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation – and even keep
>>order in the collection camps – if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It
>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not too
>>high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke
>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group of
>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953. The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured, dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the ‘new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna. Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department, the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S. were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial, instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed. What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court. But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two, found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable, neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community. Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission – the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination, one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings, concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery, etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue, and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

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On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong
wrote:

From [email protected] Sun Oct 25 12:23:29 EST 1998
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:26:43, kenoy wrote:

>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES

Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
perhaps ON should do similar??

Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
collar criminals, and similar criminals?

After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
antagonise a generous host country like Australia?

Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
murder of Christ?

Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
want to generate more?

Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!

Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
in many countries, trying to take control…

>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.

>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.

>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is…

>>cheers, PJ

>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.

>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!

On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
Wood) wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>wrote:
>
>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>Harold.
>
>Have you considered that your estimation here
>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>probably have given you a false impression
>however. 🙂
>
>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>indeed.
>
>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>means’.)
>
>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>published it,
>
>They haven’t.
>
>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>Australian voters?
>
>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>David Maddison
>
>Hope that helps. 🙂
>
>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>reaction to the realisation that their
>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>Harold.
-88-

On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:48:19 -0000, “Matt Clarkson”
wrote:

>I am absolutely astounded with the very large number of anti-Semitic
>postings on this newsgroup. What is wrong with this country? I have never
>noticed so many anti-jewish postings on anyother newsgroups!! I will bet
>that most of the people posting these messages have never even met a jew in
>their lives! Weren’t the crazy/illogical/ignorant/racist ravings of Pauline
>Hanson enough of an embarassement to our country???? Thank god she didn’t
>get voted in, it will hopefully show these bigots that this kind of crap is
>not tolerated in our multicultural country. If you can’t handle our country
>being one of the worlds greatest multicultural societies, you are free to
>piss-off and leave the country. Remember, if you are one of these people,
>you are merely a loud minority, despised by your peers. Hopefully these
>people will move to Germany and be arrested for their anti-semitic views.
>ENOUGH
>Matt
>
>

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>>
>>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>>
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>>>
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In most cases, it is not the low level workers doing the stealing,
since they are video monitored all the time.

it seems that MANAGERs, who are not videotaped are doing the
thievery!!!

On 24 Oct 1998 17:17:13 GMT, [email protected] (lu wang) wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>: I have to agree with Mark on this one. Anyone stupid enough to send
>: bills in a window envelope through the postal service deserves to lose
>: the envelope and everything in it.
>
>That is no justification/saying it is ok for postal workers to steal the
>mail. Postal service should guareent that none of its workers steal mail
>that included valuables, irregardless of how well or poorly concealed the
>valuable is.
>
> —
>From: Lu Wang

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In most cases, it is not the low level workers doing the stealing,
since they are video monitored all the time.

it seems that MANAGERs, who are not videotaped are doing the
thievery!!!

On 24 Oct 1998 17:17:13 GMT, [email protected] (lu wang) wrote:

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>On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:49:07 GMT, [email protected] (Simonovsky Pavel)
>wrote:

>>On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:29:20 -0500, Susan Cohen
>>wrote:
>>!>Steve Simons wrote:

>>!>> THERE IS A PASSAGE IN THE TALMUD THATS SAYS JEWS SHOULD CHEAT
>>!NON-JEWS
>>!>> FOR THEIR WEALTH IS NOTHING MORE THAN PUBLIC PROPERTY, GOOD FOR
>>!THE
>>!>> TAKING.

>>>I notice you don’t exactly quote the phrase – from whence it specifically
>>>comes.Oh, that’s right, you can’t, because this is a complete lie!

>>No it is not “complete lie”. I remember that on our book for Hebrew
>>studies in Tel Aviv university we read the same fragment from talmud.
>>Of cause I don’t remeber from which his part and wich page exactly.,
>>but may be you will say , that authors of this book were also
>>”antisemitic liers”?

>When even a JEW admits that this portion is in the TALMUD, one must
>wonder about what else is in the Talmud, about swindling, and perhaps
>killing non-JEWS????

On Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:05:39 -0500, “NoOne” wrote:

>If you pseudo-intellectual, pro-slavery commies read the Bible you might
>just find the very simple answer to the “Peace Process”.
>
>God promised that land to the Jews for all eternity. It is theirs. The
>Palestinians must vacate or obey the rightful owners.
>
>But you heathen commies would know nothing about that.
>
>
>D. Torres wrote in message <[email protected]>…
>>
>>
>>The path to peace in the Middle East is first of all complex,
>>not reducible to any one element, but its foundation has to be justice.
>>
>>Palestinians deserve the same level of
>>”security” that Israelis strive for; they deserve
>>the same opportunities for self-determination,
>>the same freedoms, the same chances for achieving
>>economis/material comfort and security that Israelis enjoy.
>>
>>The policies of the Israeli government are founded on
>>the assumption that Israelis deserve more security,
>>more freedom, better economic welfare, etc., than Palestinians.
>>
>>The fact that some Palestinians who commit terrible
>>crimes against Israelis in retailiation against having
>>their land ripped away from them, placed in *refugee camps*
>>which in fact are hell holes, does not change this basic fact.
>>
>>Whatever the specific arrangements of a settlement turn out to be,
>>they must be founded on the idea that as human beings
>>neither group deserves more than the other.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>–
>>
>>
>>
>

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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>
>>Translated from Polish:
>
>>Reprinted from “Polish Weekly” published in Australia.
>
>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>Morel is accused of “cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>their safety and health.” Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>
>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>detachment of People’s Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>People’s Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>Poland).
>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>journalist John Sack in his book “Eye for an eye” ( for this book John Sack who
>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>big.
>
>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>again came back to Poland.
>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>He should…..
>
>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>

From [email protected] Sun Oct 25 19:05:39 EST 1998
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On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:
>
>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.
>
>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.
>
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is
>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
> telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>
>
>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>> answer??
>
>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>> who can be reached at:
> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>
>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>> [email protected], or
>>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
> In Message, put first line of message as:
> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
> They are waiting for your complaints
>
>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>
>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>> > letters?
>
>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>Brith’s butt.
>
>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>Canadian dollars.
>
>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>> >OyVey???
>
>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>
>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>> >Check this out!
>
>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>
>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>
>>>> The League is working closely
>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>
>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>
>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>
>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>>>>[email protected]
>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>
>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>
>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>
>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>[email protected] which contains the
>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com
>
>
>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>Canada!!!
>
>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return…. and see if it comes
>>>from anthing called “Nizkor,” or claims that it would… won’t that be
>>>fun, Bill? If you don’t get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>you’ve got me, eh?
>
>>>Please print this form and send to:
>>>The Nizkor Project
>>>c/o
>>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>>xxxxxx Street
>>>Toronto, Ontario
>
>>>Name:________________________________________
>>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>>cheque’s memo section.
>
>
>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>[#0235903-43-13]
>
>

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Subject: Der ewige Jude [The Eternal Jew]

The Film of a 2000-Year Rat Migration

————————————————————————

The Eternal Jew is the first film that not only gives a full picture
of Jewry, but provides a broad treatment of the life and effects of
this parasitic race using genuine material taken from real life. It
also shows why healthy peoples in every age have responded to the Jews
with disgust and loathing, often enough expressing their feelings
though deeds.

Just like rats, the Jews 2000 years ago moved from the Middle East, to
Egypt, at that time a flourishing land. Even then they had all the
criminal traits they display today, even then they were the enemy of
hard-working, creative peoples. In large hordes they migrated from
there to the “Promised Land,” flooded the entire Mediterranean region,
broke into Spain, France and Southern Germany, then followed the
German colonists as they moved into the
countries of the East. Along they way they remained eternal parasites,
haggling and cheating, Poland above all became the enormous reservoir
>from which Jewry sent its agents to every leading nation of Europe and
the world.

The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples of this
new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they
reach their goal and control finance.

The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
desperate and horrible death struggle of the
slaughtered animals. Long before the seizure of power, the NSDAP
fought against Jewish slaughter. National Socialist representatives in
parliament repeatedly introduced legislation to abolish this form of
animal torture through a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were
always rejected, since the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press
ran long articles against them and the so-called German parties
refused to support National Socialism in its battle against this evil.

Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.

One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
struggle.

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On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 09:58:42 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

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Subject: Der ewige Jude [The Eternal Jew]

The Film of a 2000-Year Rat Migration

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On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

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On 23 Oct 1998 12:22:06 GMT, “Susen Wang” wrote:

>>In fact, US citizens are taxed by Washington wherever they reside.
>
>This is true. Canada may adopt this policy soon, since the Canadian
>government is really desperate for money.
>
>When Hong Kongers were moving to Canada in large numbers in 1993, I moved
>from Canada to Hong Kong. The main reason is the Canadian taxes. When I was
>in Canada, I paid 40% on my salary and then another 15.6% when I buy
>things. I thought that Hong Kongers were silly to move to Canada. They
>didn’t understand or trust the Beijing government, otherwise most of them
>would not have made the move. Hong Kongers don’t know that the Beijing
>government has an excellent record in keeping heir promises in
>international affairs.
>
>Race problem is another problem in Canada. Although Hong Kongers would like
>to think themselves to be special, Canadians treat them as Chinese, which
>mean that they would face the same discrimination.

The real reason for the confiscatory taxes in Canada, is to make up
for the more than C$700 millions NOT PAID by the Bronfman JEWS!!!

On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:28:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
in 1997?

The 200,000 refers only to the first 6 months of 1997.
This must have put a major economic drain on the economies of those
cities such as Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton, where Chinese used to
locate.

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>extortionate taxes in Canada.

>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!

>The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.

>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>returns.

>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>Income Taxes.

>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>have also closed down many businesses.

>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>country.

>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] (Clturnomad) wrote:

>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>> interested in people’s response to the following question:

>>> In the last few years, there has been a surge of “returnees” to Hong Kong –
>>> people who left the territory to get a foreign passport, and have now
>>> returned. My question is this: Why do Hong Kong people who have emigrated
>>> to, say, Canada or the US, and maybe even spent years living in their new
>>> home, feel the desire to return to Hong Kong? Is there anything about Hong
>>> Kong that is really that much better than the US or Canada?
sven88

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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>
>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>
>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>involved.
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (William
>Markiewicz) wrote:
>
>>
>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>sperati wrote:
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>> —————————————————————————
>>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
>>
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
>>
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
>>
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
>>
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>>
>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!

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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:13:43 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>
>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>
>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>
>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>
>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>
>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>
>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>> answer??
>>>>
>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>
>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>
>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>
>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>>
>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>
>>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>
>>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>
>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>> > letters?
>>>>
>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>
>>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>
>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>>
>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>
>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>
>>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>
>>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>
>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>
>>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>
>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>>
>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>
>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>
>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>>
>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>
>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>>
>>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>>
>>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>>
>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>>
>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>
>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>
>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>>
>>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>
>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>
>>>>[email protected]
>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>>
>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>>>
>>>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>>>
>>>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>sven88

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>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:56:06, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>
>Orest Slepokura wrote:
>…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
>
>Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>
>The Kastner Case
>
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
>about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
>money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>
> The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>silence.
>
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
>number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations.
>
>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>not too high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
> The Verdict
>
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully.
>
>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
>to Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>mislead the Jews.
>
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs
>.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>Jews.
>
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan.
>
>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>on the other hand.
>
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
>overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
>moment the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>affidavit given in favor of a war
>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.”
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
>his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
>1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>criminal libel.
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
>appeal filed.
>
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>
>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>’fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>’fully rehabilitated’.
>
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>’collaboration’.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>Kastner. They joined him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>Jewish community.
>
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>many or should he disclose
>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>what was known to them and did not warn
>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
>
>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>Silberg:
>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>judgements on the guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>thousands would have been able
>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>to a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>occupation.
>
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>proof of evidence for this.
>
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>of events it throws retroactive
>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>on trial .
>
>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>’rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
>
>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>’fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>murder trial).
>
>
>sven88
>>

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:42:53 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>
>Orest Slepokura wrote:
>…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
>
>Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>
>The Kastner Case
>
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
>about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
>money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>
> The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>silence.
>
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
>number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations.
>
>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>not too high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
> The Verdict
>
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully.
>
>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
>to Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>mislead the Jews.
>
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs
>.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>Jews.
>
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan.
>
>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>on the other hand.
>
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
>overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
>moment the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>affidavit given in favor of a war
>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.”
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
>his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
>1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>criminal libel.
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
>appeal filed.
>
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>
>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>’fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>’fully rehabilitated’.
>
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>’collaboration’.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>Kastner. They joined him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>Jewish community.
>
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>many or should he disclose
>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>what was known to them and did not warn
>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
>
>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>Silberg:
>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>judgements on the guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>thousands would have been able
>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>to a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>occupation.
>
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>proof of evidence for this.
>
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>of events it throws retroactive
>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>on trial .
>
>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>’rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
>
>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>’fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>murder trial).
>
>
>sven88

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:02:11 GMT, “PeterD” wrote:
nothing worth reading, since it is a functionally illiterate!!

It is even too lazy to go to the Courthouse in Edmonton, to buy a
transcript of the Court cases!!!

In fact, others in other countries have also documented their thefts
by Canada Post!!!

>>>> …snipped…
>>It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
>>steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
>>privilege, n’est-ce pas??
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If you’ve got a point to make, make it near the top, and snip the
>rest.
>Derek

For the benefit of those who want ALL the background info, here goes:
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0700, allonzo
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> …snipped…

>I have watched these fabricated allegations develop for years now.
>I arrest eh? Twenty seven charged and only one arrest. Thousands of
>pieces of mail missing,, uh huh.

> Tell us are cupw negotiating with the government on the issue of wages
>and conditions at this time.? You are what is politely called a ‘ provocateur’;
>a government creation not unknown in the internet history of newsgroups.
>The government hopes to scam millions off the backs of Canadians through
>ploys like this and others and then dump the proceeds into the laps of their
>big shot buddies.

It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
privilege, n’est-ce pas??

GET YOUR GOVERNMENT TO EMBARGO MAIL TO/FROM CANADA.
PUBLICISE THEFTS IN YOUR MEDIA.

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.

>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!

>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!

>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.

>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>THEM!!!

>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>at Canada Post include:

>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number

>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number

>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440

>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!

>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.

>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.

>>>>Read all the articles below!!!

>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.

>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.

>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.

>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.

>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.

>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.

>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.

>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.

>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:

>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>> Carl E. Kane
>>> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>> writes
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?

>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com

>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.

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On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:08:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>
>>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>>
>>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment
>>
>>>by Yossi Melman
>>
>>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha’aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.]
>>
>>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>>
>>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman’s noose, and his close
>>>family
>>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling –
>>>years later proven to be incorrect – that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk’s extradition to
>>>Israel.
>>
>>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>>Court
>>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>>hope to reach.
>>
>>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt’s star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>>Judge George Paine of the
>>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>>and primarily B’nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>>ago.
>>
>>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. “I am just a
>>>lot
>>>more sober,” he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt’s
>>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department’s Office
>>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>>against Demjanjuk.
>>
>>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>>being inefficient and
>>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>>to “deliver the goods”: either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government – through
>>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem – to request Demjanjuk’s
>>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>>
>>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>>Demjanjuk’s extradition.
>>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him.
>>
>>>”Today we know,” says Merritt, “that they – the OSI, the prosecution in
>>>the case and the State Department – lied through their teeth. Even then
>>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>>information at the time.
>>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>>Israel.” Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was “nothing
>>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted.”
>>
>>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk’s trial, Michael
>>>Shaked. “Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk’s identification as Ivan the
>>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman’s noose.
>>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars.” As for
>>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, “Yes, I heard
>>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>>introduced to the court, it’s impossible to find him guilty of other
>>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>>Terrible.”
>>
>>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>>investigation
>>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge’s claim
>>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>>their legal advisers, who
>>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>>Cinncinnati trial
>>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>>required by law. “My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>>judge,
>>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>>the officials in Washington – to submit all the information they had to
>>>the court.”
>>>The investigation of Judge Merritt’s complaint is still underway.
>>
>>>Gilbert Merritt’s curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor’s degree at Yale,
>>>and then
>>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>>situation of the black minority of
>>>one of the most racist southern states.
>>
>>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him.
>>
>>>”Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>>demand for an investigation,” he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>>”They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>>organizations could have.”
>>
>>>Merritt’s friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge’s chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>>Nashville.
>>
>>>”At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies – golf, tennis,
>>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>>universities.”
>>
>>>[End]

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On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>
>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment
>
>>by Yossi Melman
>
>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha’aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.]
>
>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>
>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman’s noose, and his close
>>family
>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling –
>>years later proven to be incorrect – that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk’s extradition to
>>Israel.
>
>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>Court
>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>hope to reach.
>
>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt’s star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>Judge George Paine of the
>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>and primarily B’nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>ago.
>
>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. “I am just a
>>lot
>>more sober,” he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt’s
>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>against Demjanjuk.
>
>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>being inefficient and
>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>to “deliver the goods”: either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government – through
>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem – to request Demjanjuk’s
>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>
>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>Demjanjuk’s extradition.
>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him.
>
>>”Today we know,” says Merritt, “that they – the OSI, the prosecution in
>>the case and the State Department – lied through their teeth. Even then
>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>information at the time.
>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>Israel.” Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was “nothing
>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted.”
>
>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk’s trial, Michael
>>Shaked. “Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk’s identification as Ivan the
>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman’s noose.
>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars.” As for
>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, “Yes, I heard
>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>introduced to the court, it’s impossible to find him guilty of other
>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>Terrible.”
>
>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>investigation
>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge’s claim
>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>their legal advisers, who
>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>Cinncinnati trial
>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>required by law. “My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>judge,
>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>the officials in Washington – to submit all the information they had to
>>the court.”
>>The investigation of Judge Merritt’s complaint is still underway.
>
>>Gilbert Merritt’s curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor’s degree at Yale,
>>and then
>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>situation of the black minority of
>>one of the most racist southern states.
>
>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him.
>
>>”Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>demand for an investigation,” he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>”They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>organizations could have.”
>
>>Merritt’s friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge’s chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>Nashville.
>
>>”At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies – golf, tennis,
>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>universities.”
>
>>[End]

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On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:03:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>ARE THE ROTHSCHILD BEHIND THE CONSPIRACY?
>By: Efraim Menashe
>
>
>Jerusalem, Israel–It isn’t easy being a conspiracy researcher- let
>alone a Jewish conspiracy researcher- when so many Jews are involved
>in political intrigue and world domination. This is a fact any
>objective thinker must conclude- whether the researcher is a Jew or
>not. As a Jew, the decision is harder to accept.
>
>But I guess I am an objective thinker before I am a Jew, and for that
>reason I am prepared to publicly admit to all who are reading that
>indeed, there is a conspiracy to control and dominate the world, and
>that many, many Jews play, and have played a role, in that conspiracy.
>For this is not speculation, it is fact. The names are well known to
>all: Rothschild, Warburg, George Soros, Henry Kissinger, the
>Bronfmans, Jacob Shiff, Bernard Baruch, Judah Benjamin, etc. However,
>one must remember that included in the conspiracy are also the
>Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, Cecil Rhodes, the British Royal Family, the
>Vatican, the French and Italian members of the “NWO planning
>committee.” Most of the players in the NWO arena are not Jews, if all
>the members are included.
>
>The problem is that for some reason only the Rothschilds are
>associated with being behind the creation of “the Illuminati.” All the
>conspiracy literature points the sole finger at this family for
>creating the Illuminati and causing revolutions in France, Russia, the
>US, the murder of Lincoln, the creation of the Federal Reserve, the
>crash of l929, the Bank of England, two World Wars: in fact,
>everything that supposedly happens in the NWO is carried out via
>”agents of Rothschild.” It is quite amazing how every conspiracy
>researcher whether it is Tex Marrs, David Icke, Guradas, Ralph
>Epperson, Eustice Mullins, John Coleman, it doesn’t matter from which
>perspective they came to understand the grand conspiracy, they all
>agree on one thing that is that the “Rothschilds who are behind
>everything.”
>
>The Schiffs, the Warburgs, Bernard Baruch, are said to be “agents of
>Rothschilds” but this may only mean that no other higher chain of
>command has been identified. None of these so-called agents ever
>admitted to being an agent, nor do we really know if they were. The
>way the conspiracy is described in the revisionist view of history, it
>is just assumed that they are, as it is assumed that the Rothschilds
>are behind the creation of the Illuminati. I have yet to see any proof
>that this is the case. I am not suggesting that the Rothschilds are
>not players in the NWO, only that they are far from being the only
>ones and it has never been shown by any conspiracy researcher that
>they are indeed, “Chairmen of the Board.”
>
>It is possible that the Rothschilds agreed to have all the blame
>placed on them so there would be an outlet for those observant people
>who discovered the conspiracy. The family appears to have accepted
>that they would be blamed for the conspiracy and this would cause an
>increase in anti-semitism. The Rothschilds may have gone along with
>this in order to gain more power in the circle of powerbrokers.
>
>It doesn’t seem to occur to the the Rothschilds’ accusers that the
>likelihood of so much power being accumulated by one family is
>infinitely remote. What is never asked is “What was so special about
>the policies of the Rothschilds?” So they lent money to kings.
>Couldn’t other rich people do that? How come no king ever tried to
>kill one of them to get rid of his debt? There is no recorded event
>anywhere of any type of opposition to Rothschilds’ evil practices. Why
>not? the Knights Templer made enemies and were defeated by their
>enemies. How come the Rothschilds had no enemies who took revenge?
>How is it possible that a family dynasty can attain such power and
>wealth and yet have no enemies?
>
>Another question which needs to be answered is: “Did the Rothschilds
>run the Illuminati on their own?” Did they alone create all the
>intrigue and figure out all the plots and carry out the plans to cause
>the revolutions and wars?
>
>The running of the conspiracy is so complex, it defies all logic to
>suggest that it can be managed by just only one family. They must have
>had promoters and advocates who were prepared to go along with them.
>Yet there isn’t one recorded event of a rebellion by the people who
>were following them or any other powerbroker competing for the top
>spot. The so-called Rothschilds’ agents, Schiff, Benjamin, Warburg,
>Baruch, all went along without any challenge Rothschilds’ leadership.
>Why? Since when has such power entrenched in one family not met with
>opposition?
>
>If the conspiracy theory that the Rothschilds with the Illuminati
>created the French revolution is true, and that the War of 1812, the
>Civil War, murder of Abraham Lincoln, the Russian revolution, the
>Russian-Japan war were Rothschild inspired, how is it that hrough all
>of these years the family was able to keep themselves so completely
>hidden from the public and free of blame? Why are they so untouchable?
>Perhaps the near “supermen” status many conspiracy researchers give
>the Rothschilds needs to be reevaluated. It simply isn’t possible for
>one family to be so powerful over a period of 200 years and for one
>family to control everything the way conspiracy researchers present
>it.
>
>I am prepared to buy that the Rothschilds from their beginnings are
>one of the world’s lowest form of lifes and responsible for the death
>of hundreds of millions of people, Jews included. They may even be a
>devil worshipers. The entire family is a shame to the Jewish people.
>They have no love for the Jewish people and they have caused much
>hardship for their brethren. So they are criminals but they are just
>one powerful family out of many. Why are they being singled out as
>sitting on top of the heap? Who are all the others that we don’t hear
>about?
>
>How could one family have become so powerful that even the Kings of
>Europe they were lending money to never tried to eliminate the debt by
>eliminating the moneylender? Certainly these heads of state had the
>means, militarily and in other ways, to handle the Rothschilds in
>order not to have to repay debts. However no proof exists anywhere to
>prove that the Rothschilds were behind the creation of the Illuminati.
>
>My point is that they may have been involved in the affair, but they
>aren’t the sole architects of the conspiracy.
>
>Fellow conspiracy researchers: there is no Jewish conspiracy. There
>are plenty of Jews wrapped up in the quest for a NWO, but to ascribe
>the entire agenda to a small group of Jews, is plainly wrong. The
>anti-Semites like to point out “how powerful the Jews are”, but are
>the Jews as a people so powerful or is a tiny group of Jews dominating
>the power?
>
>Are these Jews really the ones in charge of the entire agenda to
>enslave the world? Hardly. The notion that there is a cabal of Jews
>who sit together once a year and decide how to control the world, and
>they do this on behalf of some Jewish entity, or Israel, is what we
>are asked to believe. If such a cabal exists, and the anti-Semites say
>it has existed for centuries, then where is one recorded historical
>event of a group of Jews assembling to plan their control over the
>world? There is no proof anywhere showing that The Protocols of Zion
>was describing a group of Jews intent on dominating the world so they,
>the Jews, would be kings. Indeed the protocols was probably an
>accurate description of a group of people bent on world domination.
>There may have been some Jews sitting at the table. I believe that. I
>just don’t believe that the majority were Jews. If not, then who are
>the others? Who sits at that table other than the selected Jewish
>powerbrokers?
>
>There are Jews involved in the conspiracy to subject the world to a
>one-world government, no question of that, yet none of them are
>representing any Jews other than themselves. We know the Jewish masses
>are wonderful, hardworking educated people. The select few who are
>rich and are powerbrokers are a disgrace and should be exposed. How
>Israel’s leadership has been thoroughly compromised and corrupted by
>the international Jewish powerbrokers should also be exposed. Rich,
>powerful Jews abroad exploit Israel for the gain of the people they
>work for. If these truths were exposed at least the issue would be
>confronted and the wound could, at least, start to heal.
>
>Unlike the majority of Jews, I have no reason to respect people like
>George Soros or Edgar Bronfman. They don’t represent anyone other than
>other powerbrokers. I offer no guilt for these people. They are
>gangsters and like all other gangsters, they need to be punished. It
>smears the entire Jewish people for these people to claim they are
>”Jewish leaders.” I’m one Jew/Israeli who never voted for Bronfman
>and object to his involvement in Jewish affairs and Israeli diplomacy.
>Jews like Soros and Bronfman are a cancer in the body of the Jewish
>people and to the state of Israel. I’m all for exposing these
>criminals and letting them face justice. Perhaps that’s the difference
>between me and the rest of my fellow Jews: I don’t care if we “wash
>our dirty laundry in front of the goyim,” we need to wash our dirty
>laundry in front of ourselves.
>
>That, fellow conspiracy researchers, is where I end my apologies. I
>don’t believe there is a Jewish conspiracy or ever was. What happened
>was that many rich and unscrupulous Jews throughout the past 300 years
>were prepared to take the blame for the conspiracy in exchange for
>power and influence. They believed that a little exploitation of your
>fellow Jews wasn’t such a high price to pay if it meant personal
>advancement. Edgar Bronfman and George Soros were the Baruchs and
>Warburgs of a generation ago. Nothing changes in the conspiracy. Jews
>play in the game today as they did then. However I am not sure they
>are in charge today anymore than they were then.
>
>Let’s not forget that the Vatican, the French, German, and Italian
>families, and the existing Monarchies in Europe, are still major
>sources of political and economic power in the world. The Jews are
>just one player in a game with many players. The only difference is
>that the Jews and Israel ARE in the news and identifiable. Thus it’s
>easy to point the finger at the Jews because they stand out due to
>their economic strength. The others remain hidden behind thrones and
>Churches and a European tradition of secrecy. The Jews are featured in
>the mainstream media while everything the Vatican and the others do
>are held in secret so names are not recognizable.
>
>No fellow researchers, the Jews don’t control the NWO. This conclusion
>may not be accepted by the Spotlight crowd who are looking for the
>simple answer and to them, it is just to blame the Jews for world
>domination. This is what the non-Jewish NWO players have planned and
>executed as a cunning policy to keep their plan for a one-world
>government secret: When it is threatened with exposure, get a few
>stooges to “blame the Jews” then have a few other dupes point the
>finger at the stooges and scream “anti-Semite.”
>
>While the Spotlight crowd may not be capable of realizing how they are
>being duped, I hope all other sincere conspiracy researchers begin to
>question their basic contention that “the Rothschilds are behind the
>conspiracy to dominate the world.” While the Rothschilds may be
>members of the team, they are far from being a one-man show.
>
>
>
>
>
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