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On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 20:16:16 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:31:36 -0700, “Vitaliy Tikhomirov”
> wrote:
>
>
>> When I served in the Soviet Army in 1976 in sergent
>>school in Baku a small part of cadets/coursants with komsomol length od
>>service were accepted into Communist Party. Among accepted a majority were
>>Jews and Ukranians. From those then candidats for school sergents were
>>ellected what meant a ‘warm little place’ in perspective. I don’t remeber
>>that Ukranians were against such order. They just complained that Jews as
>>always took too much places.
>
>>So, CPSU became a part of political economical mechanism were Jews,
>>Russians, Ukranians and others struggled for power. On other hand,
>>communists (of different ethnity) dominated Soviet life and opressed as
>>national as democratic development. All we want is just prosperity, dignity
>>and happiness.
>
>>I live in America three years and can’t say that Jews are my
>>freinds here, neither I can say that Ukranians are fair to Russia.
>
>
>
>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:
>
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>
>
>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”
>
>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>Moisei Uritsky.
>
>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon.
>
>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>were Jews.
>
>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it.”
>
>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>4, 1919)
>
>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:
>
>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.
>
>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.
>
>Regards,
>Roger Hughes
>
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From [email protected] Thu Oct 22 14:33:57 EDT 1998
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On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 03:07:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, [email protected] (tom moran) wrote:
>
>>
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>>>> —————————————————————————
>>>>
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>>
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>>
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>
>> Actually Riggs ‘study’ was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>>time. The reason it found it’s way into so many papers is because the
>>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>>Rigg’s study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>>was said he might write a book or something, but then don’t count on
>>it. It ain’t happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>>was in the newspapers.
>>
>> Intitially posted under “Super Jews in Hitler’s Army”.
>>
>> “The Jews in Hitler’s Military”
>>
>> L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>>
>>”A young American is
>>documenting the stories
>>of Hundreds of German
>>veterans of Jewish descent.
>>Many lost family to the
>>Holocaust while serving the
>>Nazi regime.”
>>
>>LONDON–“Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>>man’s land of Holocaust history.
>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent … who
>>served …during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>>Jews.
>> ‘Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>>Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the military but at the same time
>>exterminated their families.’
>> On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>>year old Texan … interviewed more than 300 of these veterans …
>>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>>Germany 4 times …
>> Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>>of Hilter’s soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>>men commanding up to 100,000, …”
>>
>>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>>story and why it would find it’s way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>>supremacy publication. ]
>>
>>”In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>>Knight’s Cross, Germany’s highest honor, he said.”
>>
>> “This fall, Rigg, Yale ’96, arrived at England Cambridge
>>University … lugging his clothes … documentation … Jonathan
>>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg’s files and hurried to find
>>a safe place for them.
>>
>>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
>>
>> Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>>were killed for being Jewish–and others who died fighting in battle
>>for Nazi Germany.”
>>
>>[ I would say if Rigg’s was confronted with a demand to stand
>>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>>pat.
>>
>>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>>aspect of Judaism. ]
>>
>>———————————————————————-
>> The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>>connection and the reason it found it’s way into the L.A.Times – to
>>hype Jewish supremacy.
>>———————————————————————-
>>
>>
>> “Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>>themselves as half Jewish, half German.”
>>
>>[ Here we have the term “half Jewish” being designated “Nazi
>>terminology” when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, ‘half
>>Black’, ‘half Irish’, etc.
>>
>>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>>even eighth Jewish. ]
>>
>> “One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>>high ranking officers ‘of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew’. Two
>>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>>colonels.”
>>
>>[ It doesn’t say how many were of “Jewish race” or how many were those
>>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>>
>> “‘I don’t think it ever occurred to go to a general’s personal
>>file to see if he was Jewish’, said Steinberg”.
>>
>>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>>
>>
>> “… Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>>commanders and fighters”.
>>
>>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn’t enough to draw from
>>the measly German genetic stock for “experienced” “commanders” and
>>”fighters”. ]
>>
>> “He (Rigg’s) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>>approved by Hitler–naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>>One German civilian of Jewish heritage …”
>>
>>[ “One ,,,” “German civilian” of “Jewish heritage”? ]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent …”
>>
>>[ More “officers” of Jewish “decent”. Another thing that is evident
>>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>>the list are “officers”. ]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “One Knight’s Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>>England …”
>>
>>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>>”Jewish father”. No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father”.]
>>
>> “Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>>derring-do rescue … Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch … whose father was Jewish.”
>>
>>[ The significance here of course is the “… derring-do … Jewish
>>father” connection.]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>>about 12,000 of them were killed.”
>>
>> [ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg’s
>>project. Here we have “100,000” Jews said to have served in the German
>>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>>
>> (The WWI) “…Veterans thought their service would protect them
>>against the Nazi crackdown … When the transports came … Some even
>>went to the gas chamber with their medals on.”
>>
>>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with “medals”. How
>>Rigg’s came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>>he says “some”. If he had said ‘one’ this is something we could accept
>>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the “some”, well too
>>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>>the source for Rigg’s blurt.
>>
>>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>>
>>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]]
>>
>> “Rigg’s quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>>Germany as Jews.”
>>
>>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>>Who knows. ]
>>
>> “Then one night in 1992, he went to see ‘Europa, Europa’, a film
>>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>>War II. After the movie, Rigg’s struck a conversation with an elderly
>>German Jew… and he listened until morning”
>>
>>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ]
>>
>> So far it seems Rigg’s has not written a book on the subject or
>>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>>with this latest bravado.
>>
>> On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about “Jewish”, “field
>>marshalls”, “generals” and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>>Goldhagen’s book, ‘Ordinary Germans, Hitler’s Willing Executioners”
>>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>>
>> It’s funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>>and all over each other.
>>
>> In another twist, this article and thus Rigg’s, seem to strive to
>>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>>hard at portraying as evil.
>>
>> Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>>
>> When looking at the picture of Rigg’s, I can see blind ambition,
>>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>>
>> If ever Rigg’s does publish a paper with documentation to support
>>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>>wonder about that. ]]

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On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:15:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Notice that supporters of the Christkillers can not answer the
>questions, or respond to points, so they try ad hominem attacks.
>
>History has shown that far too many of the murderers of Christ, and
>their followers, have been involved in one disaster after another, up
>to and including communism…
>
>
>On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:45:30 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Ivan Petrenko wrote:
>>
>>> ATTENTION SUSAN COHEN:
>>>
>>> OK, so I am now reading so many of your posts that I think to myself-
>>
>>And you shoud’ve kept to yourself whatever you were thinking. Mark Twain had
>>a good advice to the trolls like yourself: “It is better to keep quiet and
>>look intelligent then open your mouth and remove all doubts.” 🙂
>>
>>> etah zhenzchinah/this woman has incredible amount hate and anger, enough
>>> hate in her to start war.
>>
>>Another well known tactic, the lame hatemongers like you are so fond of:
>>”Substitute the lack of arguments with the character assassination”
>>
>>> If you don’t relax and lighten up little bit, Susan Cohen, I afraid you
>>> get high blood pressure. Really I think real problem is you can’t find
>>> man.
>>
>>Lame, lame…
>>
>>> Mozhet bit, maybe you is old maid woman who is very angry at whole
>>> world. You need consult with our wise advisor on this site- his name is
>>> Panikovsky. You look for his name on posts and read his website. He
>>> has help for women like you Susan.
>>
>>Did you use his help as well? 🙂
>>
>>> Who has time to write so many posts like you Susan? Also on this day,
>>> which is big day for Jews holiday – the Passover. But you home alone
>>> writing hate mail. What sad life you have. But Panikovsky can help you.
>>> There is hope for you to become happy nice woman someday. Then we
>>> all not think of you as arrogant bitch.
>>
>>> I. Petrenko
>>
>>Crawl back into your hole, loser
>
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:56:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 23 Jun 1998 00:27:52 GMT, [email protected] (Daniel Swan)
>wrote:
>
>>steve mock ([email protected]) wrote:
>>
>>: What you constantly fail to grasp, Tavish, is that no one is denying that there were people of Jewish ancestry among
>>: the Bolsheviks, or even that there weren’t quite a few people of Jewish ancestry among the Bolsheviks. What you
>>: completely and utterly fail to understand is how collossal the leap of logic is which you ask us to make from that fact
>>: to the conclusion that Bolshevism is some kind of a Jewish plot for which Jews bear collective responsibility.
>>
>>Logical leap or not, this raises an interesting question: How
>>can the overproportionate Jewish representation among the
>>Bolsheviks be accounted for?
>
>
>Perhaps the following text may help answer your rhetorical question…
>
>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
>”Russian
>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
>Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
>will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:
>
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet
>government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government
>in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>type.”
>
>
>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were
>384
>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
>to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”
>
>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>and
>Moisei Uritsky.
>
>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>
>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
>that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
>these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
>in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
>northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon.
>
>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
>agitators
>were Jews.
>
>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it.”
>
>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>April,
>4, 1919)
>
>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin,
>Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:
>
>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>death
>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.
>
>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80
>percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.
>
>Regards,
>Roger Hughes
>
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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:24:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, [email protected]
>(Gunther Schiller) wrote:
>
>>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>[ … ]
>>
>>From: [email protected] (BillBrtn)
>>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>>References: <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: An observation
>>
>>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Gunther, Mr. Schiller, Droogie, Jerry, A White, etc etc…
>>
>>>>. I am actually a Jew named Saul Rabinowicz
>>>>and I run Champions Bagelry in Rosenberg, Texas.
>>
>>>Checked the phone book. No such person, place. Therefore, for starters,
>>>you are a liar.
>>
>>Look at the above Bill! Who’s the liar? You don’t know me too well to
>>not know when I am speaking tongue in cheek to a person such as you!
>>So now you are stalking me too? Shame on you naughty anti-Arab bigot.
>>
>>>> You don’t have to
>>>>be a Gentile to dislike the majority of Jews
>>
>>>You don’t know the majority of Jews. In fact you may not know any.
>>
>>I know the ones on USENET and most of them I wouldn’t fart in their
>>face if they were in need of artificial respiration.
>>
>>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>>reach.
>>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler’s inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>>
>>Wanna bet o’ clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>>
>>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>
>>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>>
>>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>deportations.”]
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>>Or how about this?
>>
>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>>
>>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>> ———————————-
>>
>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>
>>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>
>>by Reuters
>>
>>BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>See also:
>>
>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>
>>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>served in Nazi army
>>
>>by William D. Montalbano
>>Los Angeles Times
>>
>>LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>of Holocaust history.
>>
>>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>”Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>whole story.]
>>
>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>> ———————————-
>>
>>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>>
>>>You tell me.
>>
>>No, they did not!
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 03:07:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, [email protected] (tom moran) wrote:
>
>>
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>>>> —————————————————————————
>>>>
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>>
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>>
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>
>> Actually Riggs ‘study’ was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>>time. The reason it found it’s way into so many papers is because the
>>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>>Rigg’s study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>>was said he might write a book or something, but then don’t count on
>>it. It ain’t happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>>was in the newspapers.
>>
>> Intitially posted under “Super Jews in Hitler’s Army”.
>>
>> “The Jews in Hitler’s Military”
>>
>> L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>>
>>”A young American is
>>documenting the stories
>>of Hundreds of German
>>veterans of Jewish descent.
>>Many lost family to the
>>Holocaust while serving the
>>Nazi regime.”
>>
>>LONDON–“Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>>man’s land of Holocaust history.
>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent … who
>>served …during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>>Jews.
>> ‘Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>>Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the military but at the same time
>>exterminated their families.’
>> On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>>year old Texan … interviewed more than 300 of these veterans …
>>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>>Germany 4 times …
>> Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>>of Hilter’s soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>>men commanding up to 100,000, …”
>>
>>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>>story and why it would find it’s way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>>supremacy publication. ]
>>
>>”In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>>Knight’s Cross, Germany’s highest honor, he said.”
>>
>> “This fall, Rigg, Yale ’96, arrived at England Cambridge
>>University … lugging his clothes … documentation … Jonathan
>>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg’s files and hurried to find
>>a safe place for them.
>>
>>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
>>
>> Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>>were killed for being Jewish–and others who died fighting in battle
>>for Nazi Germany.”
>>
>>[ I would say if Rigg’s was confronted with a demand to stand
>>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>>pat.
>>
>>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>>aspect of Judaism. ]
>>
>>———————————————————————-
>> The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>>connection and the reason it found it’s way into the L.A.Times – to
>>hype Jewish supremacy.
>>———————————————————————-
>>
>>
>> “Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>>themselves as half Jewish, half German.”
>>
>>[ Here we have the term “half Jewish” being designated “Nazi
>>terminology” when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, ‘half
>>Black’, ‘half Irish’, etc.
>>
>>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>>even eighth Jewish. ]
>>
>> “One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>>high ranking officers ‘of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew’. Two
>>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>>colonels.”
>>
>>[ It doesn’t say how many were of “Jewish race” or how many were those
>>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>>
>> “‘I don’t think it ever occurred to go to a general’s personal
>>file to see if he was Jewish’, said Steinberg”.
>>
>>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>>
>>
>> “… Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>>commanders and fighters”.
>>
>>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn’t enough to draw from
>>the measly German genetic stock for “experienced” “commanders” and
>>”fighters”. ]
>>
>> “He (Rigg’s) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>>approved by Hitler–naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>>One German civilian of Jewish heritage …”
>>
>>[ “One ,,,” “German civilian” of “Jewish heritage”? ]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent …”
>>
>>[ More “officers” of Jewish “decent”. Another thing that is evident
>>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>>the list are “officers”. ]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “One Knight’s Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>>England …”
>>
>>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>>”Jewish father”. No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father”.]
>>
>> “Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>>derring-do rescue … Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch … whose father was Jewish.”
>>
>>[ The significance here of course is the “… derring-do … Jewish
>>father” connection.]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>>about 12,000 of them were killed.”
>>
>> [ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg’s
>>project. Here we have “100,000” Jews said to have served in the German
>>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>>
>> (The WWI) “…Veterans thought their service would protect them
>>against the Nazi crackdown … When the transports came … Some even
>>went to the gas chamber with their medals on.”
>>
>>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with “medals”. How
>>Rigg’s came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>>he says “some”. If he had said ‘one’ this is something we could accept
>>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the “some”, well too
>>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>>the source for Rigg’s blurt.
>>
>>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>>
>>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]]
>>
>> “Rigg’s quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>>Germany as Jews.”
>>
>>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>>Who knows. ]
>>
>> “Then one night in 1992, he went to see ‘Europa, Europa’, a film
>>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>>War II. After the movie, Rigg’s struck a conversation with an elderly
>>German Jew… and he listened until morning”
>>
>>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ]
>>
>> So far it seems Rigg’s has not written a book on the subject or
>>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>>with this latest bravado.
>>
>> On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about “Jewish”, “field
>>marshalls”, “generals” and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>>Goldhagen’s book, ‘Ordinary Germans, Hitler’s Willing Executioners”
>>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>>
>> It’s funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>>and all over each other.
>>
>> In another twist, this article and thus Rigg’s, seem to strive to
>>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>>hard at portraying as evil.
>>
>> Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>>
>> When looking at the picture of Rigg’s, I can see blind ambition,
>>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>>
>> If ever Rigg’s does publish a paper with documentation to support
>>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>>wonder about that. ]]

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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>>
>>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>
>>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>>
>>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>>
>>>
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government.”
>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>>
>>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>>
>>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon.
>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews.
>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>
>>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>>
>>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919)
>>>
>>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>
>>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>
>>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> http://www.natall.com
>>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>>> Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:45:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue]
>>
>> “The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth — An
>>Insider’s Expose”
>>
>>-or-
>>
>>”The Secret Section in Israel’s U.S. Lobby That Stifles American
>>Debate”
>>
>> by Gregory D. Slabodkin
>>
>>
>>During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in
>>the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were
>>ruined by false charges of “communism” and “treason,” American Jewry
>>was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail
>>by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the
>>percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy’s smear tactics was twice
>>that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed
>>resolutions condemning McCarthy’s ruthless character assassination.
>>
>>Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the
>>Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith (ADL) and the American Israel
>>Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle
>>open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
>>
>>
>>Secretly Circulated Lists
>>
>>
>> To Conduct this “neo-McCarthyism,” AIPAC operates a covert section
>>within its research department that monitors and keeps files on
>>politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish
>>liberals, and others it labels “anti-Israel.” AIPAC selects
>>information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the
>>”guilty,” together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed
>>by their statements, often totally out of context.
>>
>>Just as McCarthy’s permanent investigations subcommittee labeled
>>criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as “anti-
>>American” or “pro-Soviet,” AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli
>>government policies “anti-Israel,” “pro-Arab” or “pro-PLO.” Still
>>worse is the pro-Israel lobby’s redefinition of “anti-Semitism” to
>>include any such criticism of Israel or its actions.
>>
>> To date, revelations about AIPAC’s blacklisting and smear tactics
>>have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby’s secret
>>activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling
>>book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront
>>Israel’s Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby’s impact
>>on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as
>>academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within
>>AIPAC’s stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only
>>surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic
>>fact that no longer should be ignored.
>>
>> AIPAC’s “opposition research” department traces its roots to I.L.
>>(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC’s weekly
>>_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly
>>titled column, “The Monitor.” Besides monitoring, analyzing, and
>>responding to “anti-Israel” comment and activities in the United
>>States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC’s “enemies.” In his final year
>>AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations.
>>
>> Kenen’s memoirs, _Israel’s Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in
>>Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the
>>American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to
>>create a “truth squad.” Its purpose was to combat “pro-Arab
>>propaganda” and the emerging “Arab lobby,” which Kenen believed to be
>>a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship.
>>
>> “While vigorously defending Israel’s perceived interests, the
>>organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of
>>Jewish thought police,” journalist Robert I. Friedman explains.
>>”Investigators — sometimes overzealous Jewish college students,
>>sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies — were
>>used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they
>>might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists,
>>politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and
>>writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other
>>professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of
>>anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The
>>intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish
>>community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind
>>would weaken the Jewish state.”
>>
>> When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December
>>1974, the task of monitoring Israel’s “enemies” was left to the
>>department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained
>>ever since.
>>
>>
>> Monitoring Israel’s “Enemies”
>>
>>
>>Morris Amitay, Kenen’s successor as AIPAC executive director, did not
>>follow Kenen’s practice of countering “pro-Arab propaganda” with
>>polished editorials in the _Near East Report_. Amitay was more
>>concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying
>>organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically
>>during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of
>>intelligence gathering.
>>
>>Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small,
>>dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira.
>>”Breira,” the Hebrew word for “alternative,” was organized by a tiny
>>group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from
>>the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s.
>>
>>Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the
>>subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question
>>Israel’s policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day
>>War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy
>>in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace
>>Now movement in Israel.
>>
>>However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S.
>>the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead
>>AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by
>>discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were
>>motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as “anti-
>>Israel,” “pro-PLO,” and “self-hating Jews.”
>>
>>Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC’s _Near East Report_,
>>charged that Breira “undermined U.S. support for Israel.” Only one
>>prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander
>>Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations,
>>who called the attack on Breira a “witch hunt.” He was ignored,
>>however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set
>>the “rules” for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as
>>who would be the “enforcer” of these “rules.”
>>
>>As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political
>>Power and American Foreign Policy_: “By attacking Breira, Jewish
>>leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel’s most
>>loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli
>>policies, among Jews as well as gentiles.”
>>
>>In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual “Who’s
>>Who” of “anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing
>>important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with
>>them in the political arena.” AIPAC photocopied these “enemies lists”
>>to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on
>>”anti-Israel” forces.
>>
>>
>>AIPAC’s “War for Washington”
>>
>>
>>Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy,
>>who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded
>>AIPAC’s opposition research. This was part of Dine’s “War for
>>Washington,” inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of
>>”anti-Israel” organizations in the nation’s capital. AIPAC was
>>particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning
>>to organize.
>>
>>In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee
>>to monitor Israel’s “enemies.” Goott was recruited from the
>>Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, where she had similar duties.
>>In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC
>>members to send useful information to her in Washington.
>>
>>In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_,
>>coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook’s preface, its
>>purpose was to update the activities of “anti-Israel” organizations
>>and individuals, and to provide a “more complete and convenient
>>analysis of this activity” to “meet the needs of AIPAC members.” Yet,
>>despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective
>>descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than
>>a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics
>>of all kinds as “enemies” of Israel. The final chapter, “A Directory
>>of the Actors,” profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be
>>monitored and discredited whenever possible.
>>
>>At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit
>>
>>Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith published its own
>>document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and
>>Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott’s
>>employment by both organizations during the period both publications
>>were in preparation.
>>
>>”The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals
>>listed in the B’nai B’rith and AIPAC books is that they are
>>’pro-Palestinian’ or ‘pro-PLO,'” Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book,
>>_Israel and the American National Interest_. “Pro-Israeli groups have
>>succeeded in associating the words ‘Palestinian’ and ‘PLO’ with
>>terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent
>>of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label
>>’pro-PLO.'”
>>
>>The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S.
>>Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony
>>Lewis criticized AIPAC’s tactics, particularly the inclusion in its
>>”enemies list” of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in
>>Boston, as does Lewis.
>>
>>Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In
>>
>>its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his
>>articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of
>>Israel.
>>
>>”Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion” of
>>Khalidi’s views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel’s lobby should
>>welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to “smear” it.
>>
>>In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the
>>largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States,
>>unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both
>>national Jewish organizations to “disavow and refrain from such
>>activities” as soliciting “unbalanced information on students, faculty
>>and other parties at American campuses” and “listing factually
>>inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific
>>students, teachers and researchers as ‘pro-Arab propagandists,’ who
>>’use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt
>>anti-Semitism.'”
>>
>>When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit
>>Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions
>>annually.
>>
>>However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first
>>edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of
>>”anti-Israel” activities, but disseminated the results secretly.
>>
>>
>> Going Underground
>>
>>
>>AIPAC’s decision to take its opposition research underground coincided
>>
>>with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb.
>>Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the
>>Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely
>>associated with the pro-Israel lobby.
>>
>>He is the son of Princeton University “orientalist” Bernard Lewis,
>>whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating
>>Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people.
>>
>>Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC’s stealth section,
>>innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a “clearing-house”
>>for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide
>>a “resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else.” He has
>>provided negative information both to rival politicians and to
>>journalists about prominent individuals whom
>>
>>
>>AIPAC considers to be “anti-Israel.”
>>
>>
>>In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a
>>racist brochure mailed to voters in California’s 44th congressional
>>district by candidate Randy “Duke” Cunningham’s campaign in the spring
>>of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph
>>Ghougassian, Cunningham’s Republican primary election opponent, of
>>being “bank-rolled by Arab oil interests.” The brochure, featuring a
>>photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi,
>>asked: “We don’t need a congressman bought and paid for by these
>>special interests. Do we?”
>>
>>What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that
>>Cunningham’s campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic
>>sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and
>>included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA).
>>Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen,
>>lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC’s support,
>>went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress.
>>
>>Lewis reports that AIPAC also “provided Steve Emerson with information
>>
>>on Alexander Cockburn.” That followed a heated exchange between
>>Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the
>>
>>editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson
>>attacked Cockburn for his “financial agenda.”
>>
>>”It ought to be remembered,” Emerson wrote, “that several years ago
>>Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been
>>funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank
>>known as the PLO’s bank.”
>>
>>Emerson’s charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly
>>alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984. _The
>>Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from
>>the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the
>>Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them,
>>editors of the _Village Voice_ “indefinitely suspended” him due to
>>”appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure.”
>>
>>Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story
>>
>>as well as Emerson’s attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_.
>>Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in
>>1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was
>>”linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against
>>Israel.” In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed
>>individual contributors within the United States until it closed down
>>in 1983 due to a lack of funds.
>>
>>Deploring the AIPAC-generated “misinformation,” editor David
>>Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: “What
>>Cockburn did not do was take money from an ‘Arab propaganda group.’
>>Moreover he was not ‘bought’–he clearly received the grant because of
>>views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that
>>the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports
>>to be. And despite the reporter’s clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does
>>not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist.
>>His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and
>>the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested
>>parties, is poor journalism.”
>>
>>Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated
>>pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In
>>a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: “Among
>>all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly
>>innocuous… On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs
>>should enjoy freedom of speech.”
>>
>> _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn’s monthly column
>>opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in
>>cheek, “We hired him because of his biases, which we’re sure are
>>totally incorruptible.”
>>
>>In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of
>>Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to
>>Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim’s
>>reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage
>>a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted.
>>
>>Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to
>>which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge
>>that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money.
>>Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of “Arab money”
>>and “petro-dollars,” yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar
>>innuendo regarding Jewish financing.
>>
>>In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze
>>the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith
>>Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: “For the most part,
>>Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid
>>being pinned down as ‘anti-Israel.’ She often achieves her goals by
>>presenting the views of ‘moderate Israelis’ to state her case.”
>>
>>In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David
>>Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper’s views in its March 25, 1991
>>issue:
>>
>>”Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the
>>politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of
>>Judith Kipper. It’s not that she’s anti-Israel — her criticism would
>>put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party — or that
>>she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering
>>quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue.”
>>
>>There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC’s
>>strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior
>>AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of
>>their covert activities. The name change from “Opposition Research” to
>>”Policy Analysis” was designed to conceal AIPAC’s surveillance,
>>monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990
>>internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues
>>director, Lewis boasted:
>>
>>”There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working
>>behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that
>>impact is not always traceable to us.”
>>
>>As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has
>>created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing
>>organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them.
>>This AIPAC creation is “Paul Hunt” of “Paul Hunt & Associates.” AIPAC
>>rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt’s mail, and has
>>installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office.
>>”Paul Hunt” has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report
>>on Middle East Affairs_.
>>
>>Secret _Activities_
>>
>>Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production
>>and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which
>>disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of
>>Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible
>>product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to
>>hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the
>>controversy that arose over its blacklisting of “enemies” in its 1983
>>publication of _The Campaign to
>>
>>
>>Discredit Israel_.
>>
>>
>> _Activities_’ select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged
>>to use the material as they see fit, “subject only to the provision
>>that AIPAC not be attributed as its source.” _Activities_ is
>>distributed to AIPAC’s Washington and regional staff, its officers,
>>the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and
>>Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists
>>and academics.
>>
>>It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other
>>Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not
>>permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention
>>the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC’s walls. A disquieting
>>breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the
>>American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that
>>organization’s president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having
>>received an AIPAC study entitled
>>
>>
>>_Activities_.
>>
>>
>>Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to
>>Dine: “_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will
>>probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is
>>nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it
>>is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just
>>accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of
>>these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of
>>_Activities_.”
>>
>>Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National
>>Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish
>>Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for
>>Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish
>>Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security
>>Affairs (JINSA).
>>
>>According to Lewis: “Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major
>>
>>Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures
>>that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces
>>both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are
>>focusing.
>>
>>Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC,
>>_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to
>>good advantage.”
>>
>>One of the ways that this information was “used to good advantage” was
>>
>>in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused
>>Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of “the
>>new anti-Semitism” (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him
>>with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis
>>Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action
>>committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations
>>attributed to Zogby.
>>
>>When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name
>>
>>appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the
>>mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording.
>>_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990,
>>column, “There’s no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish
>>Congress’ letter writers went off half-cocked — and without Siegman’s
>>knowledge. “It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC’s
>>fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC’s _Activities_,
>>from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken.
>>
>>Nor, after publication of Cohen’s article, was it some unnamed “letter
>>
>>writer” but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC’s Michael Lewis
>>for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an
>>”anti-Semite.” Lewis faxed an AIPAC “living memo” of Zogby’s
>>statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York.
>>
>>”I hope this information is of help,” Lewis wrote on the cover sheet.
>>
>>”The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the
>>information should not be attributed to AIPAC.”
>>
>>Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued
>>that the AJC letter had “resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy.”
>>Hentoff also quoted Zogby’s reaction to his own personal ordeal with
>>neo-McCarthyism:
>>
>>”When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a
>>’terrorist member of the PLO’ speaking engagements were canceled,
>>political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I
>>were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and
>>AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence — but
>>vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can
>>create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur.”
>>
>>Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his “overzealous
>>fund-raisers.”
>>
>>
>> Disingenuous Disclaiming
>>
>>
>>AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken
>>against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact,
>>it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous
>>disclaimer that “the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies
>>neither endorsement nor criticism of any group.” By distributing
>>derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in
>>effect tells pro-Israel activists, “Here are the people who are your
>>enemies — now go out and do something about it!”
>>
>>AIPAC’s Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison
>>department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When
>>AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an “anti-Israel”
>>personality, summaries of that person’s standard arguments,
>>question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations
>>are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are
>>asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC
>>also draws up questions for “plants” in the audience, and suggests
>>other strategies suited to the particular venue.
>>
>>Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in
>>1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional
>>director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th “Conference
>>on Peace With Justice in the Middle East” at Mira Costa College,
>>arrangements were made to “monitor the conference…have a corps of
>>’our’ people in the audience, well-trained and briefed…call a
>>meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to
>>develop a coordinated strategy…(and provide) background material” on
>>the speakers.
>>
>>Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at
>>Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled
>>on him: “It’s just like an FBI file — 150 pages of material, clips
>>from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up
>>at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given,
>>characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All
>>this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk
>>somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who
>>will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I
>>allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized
>>in unsigned pamphlets.”
>>
>>Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally
>>hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that
>>AIPAC deems to be “anti-Israel.” Among politicians upon whom such
>>files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff
>>John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense
>>Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter
>>and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate
>>Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House
>>Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John
>>Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe
>>Rahall, James Traficant and many others.
>>
>> The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of
>>District of Columbia “Shadow Senator” Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC’s
>>surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual’s
>>professional statements and activities, in Jackson’s case, AIPAC was
>>caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS’ “60
>>Minutes,” an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed
>>generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital
>>affairs.
>>
>>AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as “anti-Israel”
>>journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC
>>maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan,
>>Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis,
>>Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among
>>others.
>>
>>Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy’s scouring of Hollywood for
>>”communists,” and their “fellow travelers” in the entertainment
>>industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen,
>>Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra
>>Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more.
>>
>>
>>”Have You No Shame?”
>>
>>
>> In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised
>>Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch
>>stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, “Sir, have you no shame?” Only
>>after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as
>>intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out,
>>did the shadow of “McCarthyism” slowly recede from American public
>>life.
>>
>>Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question
>>of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community
>>relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the
>>hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel
>>Fund (NIF).
>>
>>This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the
>>National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC)
>>condemning the “McCarthy-like” tactics used by some Jewish
>>organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with
>>”the right of dissent” on Israeli policies, and emphasized the
>>importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of “mutual
>>tolerance and civility.” However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe
>>groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism
>>within more mainstream Jewish organizations.
>>
>>AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American
>>Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the
>>climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American
>>Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its
>>blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the “enemies of Israel.”
>>
>>Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and
>>racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle
>>East.
>>
>>And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute
>>toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
>>
>>[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an
>>opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
>>(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.]
>>
>>Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or
>>write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009
>>
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>>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_. Ask for one! * END
>>
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On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:24 -0400, “Dan Parker”
wrote:

>Traffickers’ New Cargo:
>Naive Slavic Women
>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>
>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>tops of tables.
>
>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>eyes.
>
>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>you and bring you back.”
>
>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>the robust global economy.
>
>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>
>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>into Western Europe alone.
>
>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>
>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>really happen at all.”
>
>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>
>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>
>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>countries and, usually, false documents.
>
>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>wages they could never imagine at home.
>
>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>
>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>are ubiquitous.
>
>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>
>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>
>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>the violence that awaits them.
>
>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>captors.
>
>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>
>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>
>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>average price of just under $1,000.
>
>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
>time.”
>
>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>very light.”
>
>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>against the sale of human beings.
>
>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>
>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>
>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>
>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>cell phone.
>
>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>Soviet Union.
>
>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>
>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>is all we need.”
>
>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>routine part of her job.
>
>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>
>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>
>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>
>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>become a matter of survival.
>
>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>
>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>find to save themselves.
>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>are go to men. So they leave.”
>
>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>
>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>
>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>
>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>arrested.”
>
>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>
>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>
>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>employed illegally there now.
>
>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>
>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>
>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>which had enslaved them.”
>
>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>
>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>
>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>now.”
>
>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>
>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>
>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>factory for no wages?”
>
>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>
>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>I could ever get at home.”
>
>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>
>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>
>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>
>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>
>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>
>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>
>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>ready to do anything for money.”
>
>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>
>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>laughed heartily.
>
>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>
>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>
>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>documents are taken to prison.
>
>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>
>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>did nothing to hide their identities.
>
>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>protection program.
>
>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>
>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>
>
>
>

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:30:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:44:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:
>
>>dddddddddd
>>below, Hermie’s cyberthrash
>>————-
>>md
>>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>
>>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>>> > ============
>>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>> > occupation of Poland. The only reason for this question at this time
>>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provacatively, Dr.
>>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>> > after the war? Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>> >
>>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitted
>>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem. However,
>>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>> > presently in Lithuania.
>>> >
>>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>> > occupation was dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>>> > They were ususally not armed,
>>>
>>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>>>
>>> > and when armed never given more than five
>>> > bullets for their long rifles. Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>> > the genocide.
>>>
>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>>>
>>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>> > service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>> > post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>> >
>>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>> > of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > closed.
>>>
>>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> longer or die now!
>>>
>>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!
>>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> >
>>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>> > Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> >
>>> > ————-
>>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki. We found
>>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>> > dozens of other places. Why you shrink from searching for your
>>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>> >
>>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>>> other people.
>>>
>>> Herman
>>> > ————
sven88

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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

From [email protected] Thu Oct 22 14:34:31 EDT 1998
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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:19:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:06:54 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>>
>>>> dddddddddddddd
>>>>
>>>> Grigori, if you do not know or do not believe me, please read the
>>>> monograph about Lazar Kaganowich by his American cousin titled The Wolf
>>>> of the Kremlin. Stven eventually was given permission by Brezhnev to
>>>> visit his uncle in Moscow. Look in Stevens book at the photo of his
>>>> aunt Rosa and unkle Mikhail Kaganovich who was shot with the blessing of
>>>> Lazar and Rosa for treason which was sympathy for Israel.
>>>>
>>>> Mikhail learned zionsim on his trip in USA during WW II and he was
>>>> commissar of Soviet aviation.
>>>>
>>>> Pawlikowski deserves from you apology, but I doubut he will get it.
>>>>
>>>> Some Jews are simply michigene
>>>> ———
>>>> RAgan
>>>>
>>>> Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > PAWLIKOWSKI ([email protected]) wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > : Klan of Kaganoviches, Soviet Jews who ran USSR at that time (Rosa
>>>> > : Kaganowich, M.D. being at that time Stalins wife) felt scorned by
>>>> > : Israel. Hell know no furry as the woman scorned!
>>>> >
>>>> > What interesting here, that all it is lie, but the name of Lazar
>>>> > Kaganovich.
>>>> >
>>>> > #1. Kaganovich had no “clan”, especially one who was running USSR.
>>>> >
>>>> > Better you, patologycal judofob, invent something new, remotely close to
>>>> > reality, like “Georgian Djugashvili when studied in christian seminary was
>>>> > forcefullyu converted to Judaizm and than under name Stalin
>>>> > successfully tried to kill all polish christians worldwide”.
>>>> >
>>>> > #2. STalin never had a wife with the name “Rosa”, not talking about Rosa
>>>> > Kaganovich, M.D. because:
>>>> >
>>>> > #3. Lazar Kaganovich NEVER have a sister Rosa Kaganovich.
>>>> >
>>>> > That lies you are repeating was put in circulation with Russian
>>>> > antisemitic blacj hundred organization “Pamiat” in the end of 80th and
>>>> > was exposed countless times as an open lie in Russian periodicals.
>>>> >
>>>> > #4. Affiliation of patologycal commie Kaganovich and Israel came from the
>>>> > same garbage dumpster.
>>>> >
>>>> > #5. Stalin with the help of his henchmen Beria at the time was preparing
>>>> > the wholesale deportation Jews to death camps in Siberia, and started to
>>>> > unfold so-called “Case of Jewish doctors”, implicating all Jewish M.D. who
>>>> > worked in Kremlin hospital killing of communist party leaders admitted to
>>>> > hospital. It had to become a spark to deportation. Thanx G-d the bastard
>>>> > died himself on Purim night and deportation was aborted.
>>>> >
>>>> > Does it look, like that scenario was running by a jews? Dear
>>>> > Padlikowsky? Maybe unexisted M.D. Kaganovich tried to get rid of worldwide
>>>> > known M.D. in Moscow?
>>>> >
>>>> > You are laughable, moron.
>>>> >
>>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>>> >
>>>> > G.K.
>>>> >
>>>> > : USSR hoped to control Arab oilpipes then going through Israel.
>>>> >
>>>> > Pipelines THROUGH Israel? Pumping oil there in 1940th? Time to call Mr.
>>>> > Padlikowsky a veterinarian, and teacher in geography.
>>>> >
>>>> > : USSR staged Kielce and other pogroms to stock Palestine with Soviet
>>>> > : Jews but these indoctrinated Jews did not bother with USSR once in
>>>> > : Israel.
>>>> >
>>>> > No, no. Glory of Kielce is a badge of honor on your antisemitic mighty
>>>> > chest.
>>>> >
>>>> > But what pogrom in Kielce has in common with stocking of Palestine with
>>>> > SOVIET jews? Especially when all info about Kielce was immediately
>>>> > SUPPRESSED for ten’s of years?
>>>> >
>>>> > Why it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get from Russia to Israel all that years??
>>>> > And it was a multitude of jews who was refused an exit visas and instead
>>>> > of Near East were sent to Far North?
>>>> >
>>>> > : Elementary HErmie HH
>>>> > : ———
>>>> > : Pawlikowski
>>>> >
>>>> > Unfortunately, that tipe of lies almost never elementary. despite such a
>>>> > lies have been produced by thou who have one convolution in the brain, and
>>>> > even this one was straiten by Waffen SS side-cap. Unfortunately a rebuke
>>>> > required and time had been waisted for such an imbecile.
>>>> >
>>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>>> >
>>>> > G.K.
>>>
>>>
>>>It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>>who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>>- it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>>
>>>It was the secret police that engaged in genocide – first on the
>>>Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>>Kommissars!!!
>>>
>>>How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER – that it was
>>>the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?

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On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, “firefly”
wrote:

>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON POLAND LAND >POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT INSIDE
>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR < IT IS NOT AOUR >AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2 wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz.
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups.
>
>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,” she added.
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.
>
>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site.
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex.
>
>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar.
>
>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.
>
>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated.
>>
>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”
>>
>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, “But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently.
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign.
>
>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”
>
>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda.
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,” wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.
>
>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.
>
>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 22 14:34:36 EDT 1998
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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
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>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> “Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.”
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>> Top Jewish Communists
>
>>> Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar’s family–women and children–in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov’s order for the murder of the Czar’s
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar’s daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>> Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>> the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> “Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts.”
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin’s mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea–Baltic Canal.
>
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
>
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov (“Yankel”) Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> “insurance policy” extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein’s Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
>
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> ‘Holocaust’ Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin’s top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier’s wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin’s chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin’s enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin’s chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun’s eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews “…played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime’s top five leaders were Jews. ”
>
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People’s Army. Tito’s top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People’s
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, “In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security…the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews.” Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like : (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>> Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
>
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>
>>> In Poland, “…a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party…Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism.” (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
>
>>> “The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country–Berman and Minc–were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski.”
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>> Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin’s ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>
>>> Mark Zborowski: “…considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome…(Soviet) spy of all time” (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. “The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne” by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
>
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, “one of its foremost intellectuals”( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC’s terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. (“Joe Slovo,” Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>
>>> Slovo had been the ” planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others… Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday…Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed…Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as ‘the Communist mastermind’ behind the ANC’s
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa’s whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC’s growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. ‘Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,’ Slovo said.” (“Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid,” L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela’s ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>
>>> “…The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>> whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>> country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>> world-wide social revolution.”
>
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>
>>> “Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>> Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>> with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>> is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS.”
>
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>
>>> “The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>> brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>> is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order – sound
>>> familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>> thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>> and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>> mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”
>
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>
>>> “Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>> half-converted believers dream to vanquish the “Truthful” and the
>>> faithful of their own creed … who had gathered around the Red
>>> Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>> guidance of those experienced officers of all latter – day
>>> revolutions – the Jews?”
>
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
>
>>> “If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>> Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed”
>
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>
>>> “…there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>> that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>> Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>> Judaism.”
>
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>> “The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>> fundamentals of Judaism.”
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>
>>> “Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>> which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>> propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>> fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>> dominated by them from the beginning …. There is no moral,
>>> philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>> Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>> to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>> originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>> Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>> his “keen dialectical ability” (as presumably manifested by his
>>> abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>> inheritance …. Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>> merely “streamlined” talmudism for Gentile consumption…”
>
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>
>>> “We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God’s
>>> Chosen People – what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>> world’s seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>> executioners.”
>
>>> Bernard Lazare, in his “L’Anti-semitisme” p.350 wrote:
>
>>> “The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>> destroys … faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>> idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>> he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>> religion of (Jesus) Christ.”
>
>>> “There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.”
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920 the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>
>>> “In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> “The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>
>>> “…The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated…Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people.”
>
>>> “It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement.”
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
>
>>> “The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him.”
>>> (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
>
>>> Lenin declared, “We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class.” His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: “The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class.” Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: “The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere.”
>
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
>
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: “Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie–more blood! As much as possible!”
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
>
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> “By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule… Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children…”
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
>
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> “Cold Reminder,” N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> “Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon–one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy…Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded.”
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam’s Curse, p. 228)
>
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>>> “National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 14:13:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>In view of the extortion of gullible government, for billions of
>dollars by the cursed JEWS, the Christkillers of history, one MUST
>question all aspects of the claims made by JEWS.
>
>In this regard, the questions below deserve detailed study, until the
>truth is known.
>Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide for
>themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>
>
>
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, [email protected] (Eugene
>> Holman) wrote:
>> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims
>> >made here.
>
>
>
>> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>
>> > None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>> >individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No
>> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing
>> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no
>> >records, no demographic statistics.
>
>> > On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
>> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>> extort money from gullible governments!!!
>
>> > 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>> >WORLD WAR TWO?
>
>> > Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German
>> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of
>> >their race or national origin alone.
>
>> > 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>
>> > Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist
>> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were
>> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media
>> >positions.
>
>> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger
>> >of internment once the war broke out.
>
>> > On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply
>> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential
>> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The
>> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in
>> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of
>> >German “death camps” were in fact circulated even before the outbreak
>> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people
>> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
>
>> > 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>
>> > Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>
>> > 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS
>> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT
>> >WAS?
>
>> > Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official
>> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in
>> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied
>> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too
>> >easy and unrestricted.
>
>> > En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning
>> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>
>> > 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF
>> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED
>> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
>
>> > No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz
>> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions;
>> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight.
>> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers
>> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls
>> >of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit
>> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>
>> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>> 1949, long after the war???
>
>> > 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE
>> >PURPOSE?
>
>> > It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in
>> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>
>> > 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>
>> > Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of
>> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses,
>> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing,
>> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz.
>> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>> >commonly used and available today.
>
>> > 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>
>> > Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>> >Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>> >cross examined.
>
>> > 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA
>> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
>
>> > About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>> >only are employed.
>
>> > 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>
>> > It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened
>> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered
>> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>
>> > 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>
>> > Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the
>> >six million figure as well.
>
>> > 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT
>> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE
>> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND
>> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
>
>> > Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a
>> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any
>> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was
>> >occurring.
>
>> > 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>> >DURING THE WAR?
>
>> > About 300,000.
>
>> > 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>
>> > Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably
>> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods
>> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes.
>> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant
>> >purposes, more Jews might have survived the concentration camps.
>> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation
>> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war
>> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill
>> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>
>> > 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR
>> >300,000 DIED?
>
>> > 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>
>> > 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD
>> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>
>> > A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>
>> > 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>
>> > No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed
>> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated
>> >in open pits.
>> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely
>> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in
>> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim
>> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without
>> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>> > 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A
>> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>
>> > About two hours.
>
>> > 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>
>> > To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead
>> >from typhus and other diseases.
>
>> > 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN
>> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE
>> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO
>> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>
>> > About 430,600.
>
>> > 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>
>> > No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>> >when in heavy operation.
>
>> > 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>> >CORPSE?
>
>> > After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>
>> > 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>
>> > That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have
>> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz
>> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
>
>> > 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE
>> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>
>> > No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the
>> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the
>> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open
>> >pits where the bodies were burned.
>
>> > 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
>> >THE WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>
>> > A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second
>> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or
>> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>
>> > Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of
>> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”.
>> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated
>> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles
>> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>
>> > 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>
>> > Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from
>> >the published text.
>>
>> > In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the
>> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book.
>> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case
>> >sealed for 100 years.
>> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were
>> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN,
>> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original
>> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away
>> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for
>> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view
>> >it.
>
>> > 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED
>> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>
>> > Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>> >man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>
>> > (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>> >be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of
>> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme
>> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain
>> >away Stalin’s butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes
>> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist
>> >political and social orientation of
>> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind
>> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken
>> >McVay’s refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General
>> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the
>> >mass murders of Stalin.)
>
>> > 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>
>> > Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would
>> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such
>> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>
>> > 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>
>> > None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come
>> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering
>> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis
>> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were
>> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied
>> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them
>> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
>
>> > 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>> >DURING THE WAR?
>
>> > Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that
>> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered
>> >in order to silence him.
>
>
>> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the
>> roles of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance
>> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public
>> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news,
>> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>
>
>
>> > 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED
>> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>
>> > Slightly less than four million.
>
>> > 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE
>> >THE NAZIS?
>
>> > Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>> >kill them.
>
>> > 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
>
>> > After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about
>> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
>
>> > 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>> >TODAY?
>
>> > It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>> >sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>> >billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>
>> > 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>> >WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>
>> > Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors,
>> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals
>> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where
>> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and
>> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
>
>> > Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example,
>> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in
>> >Spielberg’s production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the
>> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost
>> >saintly, and yet none of those still living who remember
>> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler
>> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler
>> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young
>> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and
>> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with
>> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>
>> > 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE
>> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> > Over 100, with more in the works.
>
>> > 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>
>> > Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>
>> > 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> > A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>> >from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>
>> > The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those
>> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the
>> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>
>> > Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>> >Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an
>> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of
>> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted
>> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling
>> >attempts to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.
>
>> > An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder
>> >has been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists
>> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure
>> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs
>> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats
>> >from Jews and Marxists.
>
>> > THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent
>> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by
>> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers.
>> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the
>> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the
>> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people
>> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults
>> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the
>> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have
>> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of
>> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind,
>> >steal another people’s country, and then to slaughter that country’s
>> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio
>> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>
>> > 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>> >REVISIONISTS?
>
>> > No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than
>> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the
>> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded
>> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust
>> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
>> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at
>> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>
>> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>> >[email protected] – W.S.
>
>
>
>One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible governments
>by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.
>
>
>
>If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the attached
>article documents, why give them any money??
>
>———- Forwarded message ———-
> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
> From: stefan lemieszewski
> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>
> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
> Stefan Lemieszewski
>
> —————————————————————————
>
> North Shore News
> February 2, 1997
>
> Insights from abroad
> Doug Collins
>
> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
> that is ignored in Canada.
>
> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>
> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>
> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>
> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
> generals, and 23 colonels.
>
> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
> more. The research is continuing.
>
> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
> alive.
>
> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>
> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>
> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>
> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
> documents in the process.
>
> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew> could
> ever have fought for Hitler.
>
> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>
> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>
> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>
> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
> was a Jew.
>
> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>
> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>
> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>
> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
> plotting against Hitler.
>
> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
> wonder why?
>
> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:01:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>What is your problem, that you can not intelligently respond to the
>article??
>
>The mantra of the Jews is to wail and moan about “antisemitism”. (And
>their moaning does indeed have the intensity of religious fervour).
>According to the Jews, generations of demonic Christians practiced
>racial/religious discrimination against the Jews. The Jews claim that
>Christian mothers for generations have nurtured their young with
>antisemitism as naturally as they nurture them with milk.
>
>The phenomenon of “antisemitism” deserves critical study. Of course,
>the very word antisemitism is itself a misnomer, a characteristic
>Jewish attempt to obfuscate the issues at hand (we are not concerned
>here with Semites, but with the racial/ethnic/cultural group of Jews;
>Jews imply here, incorrectly, that criticism of them is criticism of
>all Semitic peoples). To listen to the Jews, “antisemitism” goes back
>to Jesus Christ himself and to the Christian scriptures.
>
>Having observed the Jews from childhood and sharing close contacts
>with them in academia and in business, I have had considerable
>opportunity to speculate on their “antisemitism.” I myself was raised
>to regard all humans as equals, regardless of race/ethnicity/religion.
>Growing up, I felt, if anything, a sympathy for the Jews (just because
>there was so much discussion, so much literature published on the
>topic, I assumed that there must be something legitimate to
>”antisemitism”). In vain, however, I sought within myself the
>roots of some prejudice against the Jews. I came to the conclusion
>that all of this moaning and groaning and shedding of crocodile tears
>is a lie. Moreover, it is essentially racist and ethnocentric. It is
>shamelss deception used to advance the interests of one group.
>
>Jews are uncanny in their ability at recognizing an opportunity to
>advance their own economic/social/political/moral position by crying
>”antisemitism.” They are strategists par excellance. How do they
>sniff out this “antisemitism”? How do they learn to recognize an
>”antisemite”?
>
>In reality, “antisemitism” was born of the Jews’ own deep hatred for
>non-Jews and their religious teachings which promote discrimination
>against non-Jews. The Israeli scholar Israel Shahak states: “Judaism
>is imbued with a very deep hatred towards Christianity, combined with
>ignorance about it” (quote p. 97, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The
>Weight of Three Thousand Years, London: Pluto Press, 1994, foreward by
>Gore Vidal). Knowing no tradition of democracy or intellectual
>freedom, the Jews for centuries were herded like cattle by
>their rabbis. The very ghetto system has its origin in the teachings
>of Judaism and in the leadership of the rabbis. Isolated socially
>from non-Jews, the Jews were fed a steady diet of anti-Christian
>hatred by their rabbis, who emphasized the anti-Christian teachings of
>the Jewish Talmud.
>
>Traditionally, the higher secular and religious authorities in
>Christian society sheltered and protected the Jews. Why then were
>there periodic revolts against the Jews, in which Christian peasants
>committed acts of violence against Jews? As an honest Jewish
>historian will admit, the root of these disturbances was ECONOMIC, and
>should not be sought in some mythical RACIAL/RELIGIOUS hatred of
>Jews. The Jews were traditionally used by the Christian royalty and
>nobility to manipulate the Christian lower classes. The Jews were
>tavern-keepers, shop-owners, money-lenders. They were viewed by the
>Christian peasant as bloodsuckers and parasites. It is a fact that
>Jews were murdered by Christian peasants, but this happened in what
>was popularly understood as a response to Jewish greed and
>manipulation.
>
>In response to criticism of the Jews, 19th century Jews formulated the
>theory of hereditary Christian antisemitism. In reality, the type of
>hatred of which Christians were accused was the same type of hatred
>which JEWS THEMSELVES had harboured against Christians over the
>centuries. (Of course, the Jews have never been eager to discuss
>their true feelings towards Christians. These feelings, passed down
>from generation to generation, are responsible for the hopeless racism
>and ethnocentrism we observe daily among the Jews, e.g. the
>idea accepted by both Jews and non-Jews that Jews have the right to
>promote intermarriage only within their own community. Yet for a
>Christian to really understand this ethnocentrism, he needs access to
>original Hebrew-language sources). Their beloved Sigmund Freud
>called this psychological device PROJECTION. The Jews have PROJECTED
>their own anti-Christian hatred onto the Christians.
>
>Who then is an “antisemite”? An antisemite is a person disliked by
>the Jews.
>
>ov
>
>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:07:54 GMT, [email protected]/remove-this/ilo.uva.nl
>(Michel Couzijn) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:53:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>The phenomenon of “antisemitism” deserves critical study.
>>
>>Absolutely. But not by you,
>>Michel Couzijn
>>Amsterdam, The Netherlands

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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>>From [email protected] Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>
>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>
>>Laura is my kind of gal… she has many a valid point in the following
>>post. In fact, 66 valid points. Don’t know why she
>>didn’t post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>————————————————
>>
>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews?
>>
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual
>>”survivors.” This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have
>>actually witnessed any “gassing.” There are no contemporaneous documents
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no “human soap,” no lamp shades made
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics.
>>
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the
>>Nazis?
>>
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated
>>”six million” figure is an irresponsible exaggeration.
>>
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that “there were no
>>extermination camps on German soil”?
>>
>>Yes. The famous “Nazi hunter” wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24,
>>1993. He also claimed that “gassings” of Jews took place only in Poland.
>>
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an
>>extermination camp?
>>
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a “gas chamber.” The
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a
>>”gassing” camp.
>>
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used
>>to kill people there?
>>
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large “gas chamber.” After
>>America’s leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities,
>>he stated that it was an “absurdity” to claim that they were, or could
>>have been, used for executions.
>>
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn’t a “death camp,” what was its true purpose?
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as
>>a workforce.
>>
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps?
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called
>>”concentration camps” in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II.
>>
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American “relocation”
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII?
>>
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the
>>basis of race alone.
>>
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps?
>>
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all
>>suspected security risks — not just Jews — were in danger of
>>internment.
>>
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as
>>early as 1933?
>>
>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an
>>international boycott of German goods.
>>
>>11. Did the Jews of the world “declare war on Germany”?
>>
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced “Judea
>>Declares War on Germany.”
>>
>>12. Was this before or after the “death camp” stories began?
>>
>>This was years before the “death camp” stories, which began in
>>1941-1942.
>>
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass
>>civilian bombing?
>>
>>Britain — on May 11, 1940.
>>
>>14. How many “gas chambers” to kill people were there at Auschwitz?
>>None.
>>
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German
>>control during the war?
>>
>>Fewer than six million.
>>
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what
>>happened to them?
>>
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war.
>>
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet
>>Union?
>>
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control.
>>
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting
>>them outside of German reach?
>>
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR).
>>
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant,
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was?
>>
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators
>>later admitted.
>>
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact “confessions” for use at the
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere?
>>
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent “evidence” for
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar “war crimes” trials.
>>
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today?
>>
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders.
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to
>>justify US aid to Israel.
>>
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel?
>>
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in “reparations” Germany has paid
>>to Israel and many individual “survivors.” It is used by the
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling
>>billions of dollars per year.
>>
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen?
>>
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted “Chosen People.”
>>
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists?
>>
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before,
>>during and after the Second World War.
>>
>>25. How does it benefit Britain?
>>
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union.
>>
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of
>>Jews?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps?
>>Hydrocyanic gas from “Zyklon B,” a commercial pesticide that was widely
>>used throughout Europe.
>>
>>28. For what purpose was “Zyklon B” manufactured?
>>
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests.
>>
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination?
>>
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people,
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting
>>fumigation agent.
>>
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with
>>Zyklon B?
>>
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are
>>employed.
>>
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the “gas
>>chambers” to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How
>>do you explain this?
>>
>>It can’t be explained because had they done so they would have suffered
>>the same fate as the “gassing” victims.
>>
>>32. Hoess said in his “confession” that his men would smoke cigarettes
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing.
>>Isn’t Zyklon B explosive?
>>
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false.
>>
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate
>>Jews?
>>
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to “steam
>>chambers,” to “electrocution” machinery. Millions are alleged to have
>>been killed in these ways.
>>
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from
>>those who were scheduled to be killed?
>>
>>It couldn’t have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity
>>propaganda.
>>
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting?
>>They didn’t fight back because they did not believe there was any
>>intention to kill them.
>>
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps?
>>
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000.
>>
>>37. How did they die?
>>
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>>
>>38. What is typhus?
>>
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews
>>might have survived the camps.
>>
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during
>>the Second World War?
>>
>>5,700,000.
>>
>>40. Some Jewish “death camp” survivors say they saw bodies being dumped
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this?
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war.
>>
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
>>
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>>
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one
>>body, according to professional crematory operators?
>>
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further
>>processing afterwards.
>>
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens?
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had
>>died.
>>
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire
>>period such crematories were in operation?
>>
>>About 430,600.
>>
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time?
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day).
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in
>>heavy operation.
>>
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse?
>>
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full.
>>
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what
>>happened to the ashes?
>>
>>That remains to be “explained.” Six million bodies would have produced
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash
>>depositories.
>>
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken
>>during the period when the “gas chambers” and crematoria were supposedly
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination?
>>
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp,
>>nor do they show evidence of the “open pits” in which bodies were
>>allegedly burned.
>>
>>49. What was the main provision of the German “Nuremberg Laws” of 1935?
>>
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews,
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today.
>>
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws?
>>
>>Years before Hitler’s Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races.
>>
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to
>>the “Holocaust” question?
>>
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified.
>>
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews
>>were allegedly being exterminated?
>>
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn’t.
>>
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish
>>extermination program?
>>
>>None.
>>
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate?
>>
>>As early as 1933, Hitler’s government signed an agreement with the
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking
>>large amounts of capital with them.
>>
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>>
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was
>>not gassed.
>>
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine?
>>
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax.
>>
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these
>>faked?
>>
>>Photographs can be faked, but it’s far easier merely to add a misleading
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were “gassed” or
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps
>>toward the end of the war.
>>
>>58. Who originated the term “genocide”?
>>
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944.
>>
>>59. Are films such as “Schindler’s List” or “The Winds of War”
>>documentaries?
>>
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history.
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical
>>representations.
>>
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the
>>standard “Holocaust” story?
>>
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>>
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>>
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business
>>to suffer, and represented “injurious denial of established fact.”
>>
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi?
>>
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There
>>is no correlation between “Holocaust” refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>”neo-Naziism”.
>>
>>63. What has happened to “revisionist” historians who have challenged
>>the Holocaust story?
>>
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions,
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence.
>>
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic
>>freedom?
>>
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>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been
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>>
>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view?
>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story.
>>
>>66. Where can I get more information about the “other side” of the
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War
>>II historical revisionism?
>>
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>>significant historical subjects.
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>>
>>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>
>>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>>
>>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>>
>>>
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government.”
>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>>
>>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>>
>>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon.
>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews.
>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>
>>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>>
>>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919)
>>>
>>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>
>>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>
>>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> http://www.natall.com
>>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Roger’s Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>> Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:33:15 -0500, John Walker
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
>> >
>> >Contrary to your implication and claim, I certainly did not invent
>> >cross hatred nor the “anti-cross movement”. That hatred and that
>> >movement have been going on for centuries.
>> >Enough said.

>> Well, I am not aware of “cross hatred” and “anti-cross movement” “going on for
>> centuries”. Frankly, this is news to me. Can you back up your claims of “cross
>> hatred … going on for centuries” with any form of evidence? “Enough said” is
>> hardly enough 😉
>> Jerzy Malec

>===== John Walker replies: ================Enough said was more than enough
>because the topic was “Crosses at Auschwitz”,
>not “religious persecution of Christians since Christ and the Roman Empire.”

>Just a few examples:

>Russian Communists shut down churches and removed religious symbolisms in an
>attempt to end religious practices forever.

>After WWII many of the crosses above the graves of Christian soldiers have been
>replaced with headstones.
>
>There was a time when public schools in the USA would not object to clothing which
>
>displayed the Christian cross.
>
>Try displaying a cross in most Muslim countries and see how tolerant the neighbood
>is.

>Enough said.

>- John Walker

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2 wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz.
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups.
>
>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,” she added.
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.
>
>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site.
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex.
>
>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar.
>
>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.
>
>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated.
>>
>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”
>>
>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, “But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently.
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign.
>
>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”
>
>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda.
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,” wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.
>
>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.
>
>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:43:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>
>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>100,000 troops.”
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>and who is an Aryan.”
>
>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>(kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 22 14:34:41 EDT 1998
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:33:05 GMT, [email protected] the maggot
apologist for the Jew Christkillers wrote:

>From deja News some interesting comments worthy of more discussion.

On 29 Sep 1997 09:42:03 GMT, [email protected](NSWPP) wrote:

> 1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>demographic statistics.

> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.

> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>WORLD WAR TWO?

> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>race or national origin alone.

> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?

> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>internment once the war broke out.

> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>been fully justified.

> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?

> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.

> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>
> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.

> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.

> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?

> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.

> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?

> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>correctional systems throughout the United States today.

> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?

> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>commonly used and available today.

> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?

> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>cross examined.

> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>WITH ZYKLON-B?

> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>only are employed.

> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.

> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?

> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>million figure as well.

> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>NOT KNOW?

> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>all during the war that such an event was occurring.

> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>DURING THE WAR?

> About 300,000.

> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?

> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.

> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>DIED?

> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.

> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?

> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.

> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?

> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>their facts, or else they are lying.]

> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?

> About two hours.

> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?

> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>typhus and other diseases.
>

> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?

> About 430,600.

> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?

> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>when in heavy operation.

> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>CORPSE?

> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.

> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?

> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>anywhere else in Europe.

> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?

> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>burned.

> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?

> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.

> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.

> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?

> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>published text.

> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.

> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?

> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.

> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)

> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>
> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>

> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?

> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>Zip. Nada.

> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>DURING THE WAR?

> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>to silence him.

> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?

> Slightly less than four million.

> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>NAZIS?

> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>kill them.

> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>HAPPENED TO THEM?

> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>they are all accounted for.

> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>TODAY?

> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>Jewish people to keep the scam going.

> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?

> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>creative and financial sectors of film making.

> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.

> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?

> Over 100, with more in the works.

> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?

> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.

> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?

> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.

> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.

> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>prison and torture in Germany.

> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.

> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.

> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>REVISIONISTS?

> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>it is: a politically inspired hoax.

>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>[email protected] – W.S.
sven88

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:16:12 GMT, [email protected] the maggot
apologist for the christkiller jews wanted to write:
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>>
>>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>
>>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>>
>>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>>
>>>
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government.”
>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>>
>>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>>
>>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon.
>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews.
>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>
>>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>>
>>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919)
>>>
>>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>
>>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>
>>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> http://www.natall.com
>>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Roger’s Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>> Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:36:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.estonianr the benefit of those of use
>who don’t have it yet?
>
>
>On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:57:36 GMT, [email protected] (Igor Chudov @
>home) wrote:
>
>>Purebred Sovok has been telling you these self-evident truths years ago.
>
>>See, e.g., a landmark article titled “Russians Reassessing Role
>>of Purebred Sovoks”.
>
>>See ya,
>
>>igor
>
>>In soc.culture.russian, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>* In view of the constant reports by Interpol that the Russian JEW Mafia
>>* is spreading its control around the world, combined with the strength of
>>* the JEWS under communism, one wonders, is Russia now under the full
>>* control of JEWS??
>
>>* Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>* From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>* Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>* Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>>* Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
>>* One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>* Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>* of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>* them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>* facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>* and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>>* First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>* was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>* Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>* Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>* bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>* also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
>>* While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>* concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>* communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>* passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>* during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>* quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S. Archives:
>
>>* State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>* general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>* anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>>* State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>* 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>* each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>* >From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>* March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>* Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>* United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>* beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>
>>* A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>* on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>* `commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>* Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>* Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>* Government.”
>
>>* With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>* leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>* (Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>* access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>* Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>* of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>* Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>* Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>* (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>* central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>* prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>* affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>* Moisei Uritsky.
>
>>* David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>* January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>* of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>* for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>* trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>>* The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>* “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>* spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>* organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>* object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>>* In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>* here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>* superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>* Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>* United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>>* “We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>* Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>* of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>* Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>* there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>* showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>* men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>* this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>* more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>* Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>* of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>* startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>* startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>* community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>* regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>* out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>* exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>* Gordon.
>
>>* I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>* revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>* the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>* often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>* all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>* there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>* but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>* were Jews.
>
>>* I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>* Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>* posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>* was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>* did not take kindly to it.”
>
>>* Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>* “anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>* few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>>* “The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>* Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>* new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>* Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>* and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>* physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>* Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>>* “There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>* many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>* many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>* 4, 1919)
>
>>* “Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>* S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>* “In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>* communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>* the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>>* Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>* so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>* himself:
>
>>* “National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>* characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>* extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>* cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>* penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>>* While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>* clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>* virtually untouched.
>
>>* It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>* conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>* population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>* million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>* campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>* of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>* American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>>* Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>* murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>* directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>* Communist bosses.
>
>>* Regards,
>>* Roger Hughes
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>* Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>* http://www.natall.com
>>* http://www.natvan.com
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>* Roger’s Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>* Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>* Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:16:12 GMT, [email protected] wanted to
include the following text, for his Jew masters:

On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>>
>>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>
>>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>>
>>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>>
>>>
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government.”
>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>>
>>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>>
>>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon.
>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews.
>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>
>>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>>
>>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919)
>>>
>>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>
>>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>
>>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> http://www.natall.com
>>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> Roger’s Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>> Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
sven88

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:33:40 GMT, [email protected] the jew
maggot wanted to write (instead of forging articles):
On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:01:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>in support of his jew faggot lovers:

>On 1 Jul 1998 20:49:49 GMT, [email protected] (Billy Bob
>Throckmorton) wrote:

>>In article , [email protected]
>>says…

>>>On 1 Jul 1998 12:17:04 GMT, Doc Tavish, hiding behind
>> wrote:
>>>>How many Jews have you ever seen denounce this filthy
>>>>lifestyle? See what I mean!?
>>
>>>ROTFL!!! Why should we denounce it?
>>
>>So you do approve what G-d has condemned? Very interesting indeed. It shows
>>why Jews have been vomited out of all the lands they have infested if one
>>is to accept the Torah!
>>
>>>It’s part of the plan to destroy the filthy, inferior ary*n race!
>>>Encouraging ary*n homosexuality (pretty easy to do, since they’re
>>>already so prone to it) helps keep the white birth rate down.
>>
>>So you are confessing now that Jews aren’t white also?
>>
>>>Every little bit helps…
>>
>>Your simple admission tells all that homosexuality comes
>>from Jews! In my studies of the Jew I have learned that the Law
>>given to Moses was for Jews only and not for the people of the
>>nations or the Goy.
>>
>>See: http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=325176411
>>
>>and
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364072939
>>Subject: The Noachide Laws
>>
>>What does G-d require from non-Jews?
>>————————————————————–
>>
>>Our sages teach us that G-d gave seven laws or commandments that are
>>binding on all humanity. The first six of these laws were given to
>>Adam. Because the last of these seven commandments was given to Noah
>>and his sons, the seven laws are collectively referred to as “the
>>Noachide Laws”, or “the Commandments of Noah’s Sons”.
>>
>>The Noachide Laws are:
>>
>>1. Not to worship idols;
>>2. Not to curse G-d;
>>3. To establish courts of justice (some say, not to pervert justice);
>>4. Not to murder;
>>5. Not to commit adultery or incest;
>>6. Not to steal;
>>7. Not to eat flesh from a living animal.
>>
>>The Oral Law (the Talmud) teaches clearly that whoever obeys these
>>seven commandments has a portion in the world to come.
>>
>> Abraham was the first person in history to publicly proclaim the
>>Noachide Laws to the masses, although there certainly were righteous
>>persons before Abraham who knew these commandments and practiced them
>>(Noah himself, to name just one).
>>
>>The Torah was given exclusively to the Jews, along with the
>>responsibility to inform the world of the universal commandments.
>>
>> ———–END————
>>
>>I guess this is why homosexual acts were mentioned in your Torah! It
>>appears you Jew boys liked buggering each other up the ass thousands of
>>years ago. If this weren’t true then why would
>>G-d have told Moses (as depicted in the Jewish Torah):
>>
>>http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
>>
>>Acharey Mot, Leviticus Chapter 18
>>
>>18 : 22 Do not lie with a male as you would with a woman, since this
>>is a disgusting perversion.
>>18 : 23 Do not perform any sexual act with an animal, since it will
>>defile you. A woman shall [likewise] not give herself to an animal and
>>allow it to mate with her. This is an utterly detestable perversion.
>>18 : 24 Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It was
>>as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away before you
>>became defiled.
>>18 : 25 The land became defiled, and when I directed My providence at
>>the sin committed there, the land vomited out its inhabitants.
>>18 : 26 You, [however,] must keep My decrees and laws, and not become
>>involved in any of these disgusting perversions – neither the native
>>born nor any foreigner who settles among you.
>>18 : 27 The people who lived in the land before you did all these
>>disgusting perversions and defiled the land.
>>18 : 28 But [you shall not cause] the land to vomit you out when you
>>defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was there before you.
>>
>>The same Torah also says:
>>Chumash References
>>Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20
>>
>>20 : 7 You must sanctify yourselves and be holy, for I am God your
>>Lord.
>>20 : 8 Safeguard My decrees and keep them, since I am God [and] I am
>>making you holy.
>>20 : 9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be
>>put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be
>>stoned to death.
>>20 : 10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is
>>the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress
>>shall be put to death.
>>20 : 11 If a man has intercourse with his father’s wife, he has
>>committed a sexual offense against his father. Therefore, both of them
>>shall be put to death by stoning.
>>20 : 12 If a man has intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of
>>them shall be put to death. Since they have committed an utterly
>>detestable perversion, they shall be stoned to death.
>>20 : 13 If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner
>>as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion.
>>They shall be put to death by stoning.
>>
>>>BTW, for information on rampant homosexuality amongst your
>>>ary*n “heroes:” see “The Pink Swatstika:”
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~lively/
>>
>>I could care less but Jeffrey Georg Brown may be interested.
>>I hope and pray that America “vomits” out its filth soon as well!
>>You all will not be missed!
>>
>> Billy Bob
>>
>>> Bob Alpert * balpert “at” netaxs.com * Author of the Jewish Conspiracy
>sven88
>

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:28:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
in 1997?

The 200,000 refers only to the first 6 months of 1997.
This must have put a major economic drain on the economies of those
cities such as Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton, where Chinese used to
locate.

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>extortionate taxes in Canada.

>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!

>The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.

>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>returns.

>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>Income Taxes.

>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>have also closed down many businesses.

>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>country.

>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] (Clturnomad) wrote:

>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>> interested in people’s response to the following question:

>>> In the last few years, there has been a surge of “returnees” to Hong Kong –
>>> people who left the territory to get a foreign passport, and have now
>>> returned. My question is this: Why do Hong Kong people who have emigrated
>>> to, say, Canada or the US, and maybe even spent years living in their new
>>> home, feel the desire to return to Hong Kong? Is there anything about Hong
>>> Kong that is really that much better than the US or Canada?
sven88

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On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:44:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 19:04:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese, who have returned from
>Canada to Hong Kong, because of the extorion of Revenue Canada??
>
>Rumor is that the number for the past 15 months, is now over 380,000
>families, with all their wealth…
>
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:18:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>For the benefit of those Chinese, who may be considering moving to
>>Canada – BEWARE!!!
>
>>The article below was published last year, and is picked up from Deja
>>News.
>
>>On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:44:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>
>>This is probably true.
>
>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>
>>The same day that the Auditor-General of canada exposed this, the
>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>
>>This is in writing, on page 2 of the t1 general tax return for year
>>1996!!!
>
>
>>The tax is definitely NOT IMAGINARY, and the more than 200,000 former
>>Chinese residents of Canada, who have returned to Hong Kong, are in a
>>position to call the Blankety Blank a LIAR!!!
>
>
>>>This is completely untrue as well you know. There is no income tax on
>>>assets, there is income tax on the income derived from those assets.
>
>>>>The section clearly says ASSETS, not Income, as all the Chinese who
>>>>return to Hong Kong will tell you!!!
>
>>Further, the same section as appeared on the tax returns for 1996
>>year, is now also on the tax returns for 1997!!!
>
>>>Again the feilyu in HK is proven a liar!!!
>
>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>returns.
>
>>>>Further, the requirement to report those assets has been postponed.
>
>>>You are again LYING, since this section has been included in the
>>>>reporting requirements for LAST YEAR’S TAX RETURNS!!!
>
>>>>Let me get this right, Willy says that the reporting requirements are
>>>>on last year’s tax returns, he said this in 1997 and now says this is
>>>>the reason that people are leaving in 1998, two years later.
>
>>>Chinese are STILL leaving Canada, to return to HK and SE Asia. Just ask
>>>your friends and neighbours, and even the Chinese newspapers
>>>throughout the region.
>
>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>Income Taxes.
>
>>>>So the assets are overseas, however because they are overseas and they
>>>>have to be shown, the Chinese leave Canada “together with their
>>>>billions” which weren’t in Canada in the first place (remember they
>>>>were overseas). So what are the billions that they take out of Canada?
>>>>Billions? How many billionaires are there in Canada in total? How many
>>>>are Chinese? How many have left Canada?
>
>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in Vancouver,
>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>have also closed down many businesses.
>
>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>country.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:21:16 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
in 1997?

The 200,000 refers only to the first 6 months of 1997.
This must have put a major economic drain on the economies of those
cities such as Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton, where Chinese used to
locate.

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>extortionate taxes in Canada.

>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!

>The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.

>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>returns.

>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>Income Taxes.

>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>have also closed down many businesses.

>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>country.

>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] (Clturnomad) wrote:

>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>> interested in people’s response to the following question:

>>> In the last few years, there has been a surge of “returnees” to Hong Kong –
>>> people who left the territory to get a foreign passport, and have now
>>> returned. My question is this: Why do Hong Kong people who have emigrated
>>> to, say, Canada or the US, and maybe even spent years living in their new
>>> home, feel the desire to return to Hong Kong? Is there anything about Hong
>>> Kong that is really that much better than the US or Canada?
sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>
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>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>>
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>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>>
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>>>
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>sven88

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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.

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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:38:04 -0500 (CDT), [email protected] (gespo)
wrote:
>Heil Hitler join Knights of Freedom www.kof.net

On 19 Oct 1998 12:07:17 GMT, [email protected] (DeppityBob)
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach
wrote:

>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>100,000 troops.”
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>>Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>(kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>

>From the World According to Alex came:
>
>
>
>Don’t tell me, Fred Leuchter, right? Is this supposed to make me throw up
>again?
>
>
>Dep
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>”MY SCREENNAME IS LEGION!”
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:47:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:26:43, kenoy wrote:
>
>>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES
>
>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.
>-88-

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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, [email protected] (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>
>>>> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
>>>
>>>> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>>>
>>>> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>
>>>> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well.
>>>
>>>> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring.
>>>
>>>> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>> About 300,000.
>>>
>>>> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>>>
>>>> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>>>
>>>> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>> About two hours.
>>>
>>>> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>> About 430,600.
>>>
>>>> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>
>>>> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>>>
>>>> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>>>
>>>> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text.
>>>
>>>> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>>>
>>>> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>>>>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>>>
>>>> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>
>>>> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada.
>>>
>>>> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>> Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making.
>>>
>>>> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>>>>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>> Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>>>
>>>> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany.
>>>
>>>> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>[email protected] – W.S.
>>>
>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>
>>> —————————————————————————
>>>
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>>
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>>
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>>
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>>
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>>
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>>
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>>
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew> could
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>>
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>>
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>>
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>>
>>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:25:40 +0100, “Derek Reed”
wrote:
>>>> …snipped…
>>It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
>>steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
>>privilege, n’est-ce pas??
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>

>If you’ve got a point to make, make it near the top, and snip the
>rest.
>Derek

For the benefit of those who want ALL the background info, here goes:
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0700, allonzo
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> …snipped…

>I have watched these fabricated allegations develop for years now.
>I arrest eh? Twenty seven charged and only one arrest. Thousands of
>pieces of mail missing,, uh huh.

> Tell us are cupw negotiating with the government on the issue of wages
>and conditions at this time.? You are what is politely called a ‘ provocateur’;
>a government creation not unknown in the internet history of newsgroups.
>The government hopes to scam millions off the backs of Canadians through
>ploys like this and others and then dump the proceeds into the laps of their
>big shot buddies.

It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
privilege, n’est-ce pas??

GET YOUR GOVERNMENT TO EMBARGO MAIL TO/FROM CANADA.
PUBLICISE THEFTS IN YOUR MEDIA.

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.

>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!

>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!

>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.

>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>THEM!!!

>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>at Canada Post include:

>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number

>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number

>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440

>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!

>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.

>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.

>>>>Read all the articles below!!!

>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.

>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.

>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.

>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.

>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.

>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.

>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.

>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.

>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:

>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>> Carl E. Kane
>>> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>> writes
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?

>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com

>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>>
>>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>>
>>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>>
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>>>
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>sven88

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On Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:08:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>The article below sheds further light on the problem relating to
>faggots!!!
>
>The pentateuch contains strong pronouncements against homosexuality,
>and secular Jews who desire “social justice” in reaction to these
>views have come to identify with homosexuals. Jewish people, as is
>noted elsewhere in this tome, are abstract thinkers who, as such, are
>blind to qualitative distinctions between discrimination
>against homosexuals and discrimination against Jews. The fact that
>homosexuals choose to engage in that form of lifestyle (or, at the
>very least, to make it public) is one such example of a qualitative
>distinction which a Jewish mind, committed to “social justice,” will
>gloss over.
>
>Moreover, Jewish people, who have a high neurosis rate compared to
>other peoples are likely more susceptible to homosexual maladaption.
>And Jewish women,who are already renowned for unhappiness in marriage
>may, when we consider that many of them are brought up in divorced
>homes (divorce being more common among Jews) very well be more
>inclined to lesbianism. (40% of all lesbians have dead or divorced
>mothers.)
>
>In consequence, the majority of Jews (who are irreligious or of a
>liberal bent) have come to identify with homosexuals. A consensus has
>been established that will necessitate, via Jewish influence, the
>ultimate political and cultural ascendency of homosexuality in North
>America. Part of this cultural trend can be seen in the spate
>of AIDS plays which Broadway is continually dishing out, the main
>focus of this appendix.
>
>”The play’s authors are almost all Jewish. _Angels in America_ is by
>Tony Kushner, _Jeffrey_ by Paul Rudnick, and both music and lyrics to
>_Falsettos_ are by William Finn. _The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me_ is
>by the only Gentile, David Drake, but the title’s Larry Kramer is
>Jewish and a real person, author of _The Normal Heart_ and _The
>Destiny of Me_, two angry AIDS-homosexual plays of
>1985 and 1992, respectively. (Barbra Streisand is currently planning a
>movie version of _The Normal Heart_.) In all these plays, a
>homosexual, usually a Jewish protagonist’s Gentile lover, dies of
>AIDS”
>
>”From the production’s opening number, “Four Jews in a Room Bitching,”
>
>through the last act –fully half of which is devoted to preparations
>for and the final culmination of young Jason’s Bar Mitzvah–
>_Falsettos_ is Jewish, Jewish, Jewish.”
>
>”Just who are the legions of theatregoers that have made homosexual
>theater commercially viable? Here we come to a curious recognition.
>Starting after WWII, Jewish playwrights succeeded on Broadway in large
>numbers, and at the same time Jews have come to dominate Broadway
>audiences… When I … was required for professional reasons to see
>almost everything on Broadway, I was intrigued to find theater
>audiences that seemed overwhelmingly Jewish –a point perhaps more
>noticeable to the son of a Jewish mother.” [Richard Grenier, “The
>Homosexual Millenium: Is it Here? Is it Approaching?” National Review,
>
>June 7, 1993. Another play, of note, is William Hoffman’s “As Is” and
>Fierstein’s “Torch Song Trilogy.”]
>
>In response to a letter accusing Mr. Grenier of Anti-Semitism, he
>responded: “The leading Jewish figures [of these plays] are
>homosexuals and most of the leading homosexuals are Jews. The
>characters talk endlessly about Jews and homosexuality, homosexual and
>Jews. The playwrights themselves find a correlation. Am I not
>to notice this?” [National Review, August 9, 1993]
>
>Angels in America_ is “‘One of the greatest… as funny as it is
>profound’ shouted USA Today. Frank Rich, guru of cultural New York,
>pronounced on the occasion of its opening in Los Angeles that Tony
>Kushner’s two-part, seven- hour _Angels in America_ had ‘created an
>original theatrical world’ that ‘once entered by the
>open-minded viewer of any sexual or political persuasion, simply
>cannot be escaped.’ This spring it won the Pulitzer Prize. Producers
>nearly shed blood amongst themselves over which of them would bankroll
>the play on Broadway. Rarely before have we seen the media in such a
>feeding frenzy. The New Yorker’s John Lahr practically swooned in
>ecstasy. ‘From its first beat, ‘Angels in America’ exhibited a
>ravishing command of its characters and of the discourse it
>wanted to have through them with our society.'”
>
>”Alienation is, indeed, one of the major themes of the play. The first
>
>scene, in which the old rabbi makes a funeral speech, sounds the tonic
>
>note of alienation –‘how we struggled, and how we fought, for the
>family, for the Jewish home, so that you would not grow up here, in
>this strange place, in the melting pot where nothing
>melted.’ For Kushner, being a Jew is a metaphor for being gay.” [Yale
>Kramer, “Angels on Broadway”, American Spectator, July 1993]
>
>———–
>
>TWICE BLESSED: ON BEING LESBIAN, “GAY,” AND JEWISH:
>
>The book “Twice Blessed: On Being Lesbian, Gay, AND Jewish” (ed. by
>Christie Balka and Andy Rose) features a helpful list of Jewish/”Gay”
>articles and organizations, some of which I will quote here to
>deliniate the scope of the phenomenom of Jewish support for
>homosexuality.
>
>Landmark Articles in Building Pro-homosexual Consensus….:
>
>As has been pointed out, gay Jews, and their secular supporters have
>managed to build a consensus in support of homosexuality. This process
>
>can be observed in”landmark” articles which have appeared in major
>Jewish periodicals. Here is a list of several pro-homosexual articles
>which have appeared in major Jewish
>periodicals, in chronological order, as featured in “Twice Blessed”:
>
>1973) “Judaism and Homosexuality.” _CCAR Journal_ 20, no. 3 (Summer
>1973). “This symposium in the journal of the Reform movement was
>inspired by the application of Beth Chayim Chadashim, a gay and
>lesbian outreach congregation… for admission to the Union of
>American Hebrew Congregations.”
>
>1975) “Must Homosexuals Be Jewish Outcasts?” _Sh’ma_ 5:98 (October 3,
>1975), pp.303-5. “…first published article by a gay Jew in a
>mainstream Jewish periodical… calls for tolerance and acceptance.”
>
>1977) Mehler, Barry. “Gay Jews: One Man’s Journey from Closet to
>Community.” _Moment_ 2, no. 5 (February/March 1977): 22-24. “…a
>moving personal account of coming out and finding a home in the gay
>community.”
>
>1978) Matt, Hershel J. “Sin, Crime, Sickness or Alternative Life
>Style?: A Jewish Approach to Homosexuality.” _Judaism_ 27
>(1978):13-24. “For many years this essay was considered to be the
>authoritative liberal Jewish statement on homosexuality…. [they
>should be] accepted as they are. He calls for a marriage
>ceremony or similiar affirmation for gay and lesbian Jews.”
>
>1985) Marder, Janet R. “Getting to Know the Gay and Lesbian Shul.”
>_Reconstruct- ionist_ 51, no. 2 (October/November 1985):20-25. “Marder
>
>describers her own growth as a rabbi of Beth Chayim Chadashim. This
>journal issue… includes three other gay-supportive articles.”
>
>1986) “Homosexuality.” _Keeping Posted_ 32, no. 2 (October 1986).
>_Keeping posted_ is the Reform movement’s magazine for HIGH SCHOOL
>education.”This… edition includes a description of gay
>congregations, medical and psychological facts, and two young Jews’
>personal narratives about coming out.”
>
>1987) Matt, Hershel J. “Homosexual Rabbis?” _Conservative Judaism_ 39,
>
>no. 3 (1987):29-33. “Matt calls for the complete rejection of
>traditional Jewish teaching and supports the ordination of gays and
>lesbians as rabbis.”
>
>1988) Kirschner, Robert. “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Reappraisal.”
>_Judaism_ 37, no. 4 (Fall 1988): 450-58. “Kirscher argues that…
>halakhic creativity should be used to suspend the application of
>traditional Jewish law…. with homosexuals therefore being fully
>accepted and integrated in Jewish communal life.”
>
>Along with the landmark articles presented, this book also presents a
>handy list of Jewish/”Gay” Organizations. Here are a few of the more
>renowned ones:
>
>1) “Ameinu,” New York –a network of lesbians and gay men working
>professionally in the Jewish community.
>2) “New Jewish Agenda,” New York –provides gay educational resources,
>and “work-shops” on the topic of “homophobia.” [It is not irrational
>to fear a people who predominately carry a deadly, contagious
>disease.]
>3) “World Congress of Gay and Lesbian Jewish Organizations,”
>Washington.
> 4) “Jewish Lesbian Daughters of Holocaust Survivors.”
>5) “Union of American Hebrew Congregations,” New York. On the back of
>the book, the Rabbi President of this organization is quoted as
>follows:
>”[This book] reveals… that we are not so immune to the very
>process of stigmatization by which we as Jews have been shunned and
>persecuted and massacred. We have not extended our embrace to include
>gay and lesbian Jews, affirming that we ALL are family, that they and
>their relatives are OUR sons, OUR sisters, OUR neighbors, OUR fellow
>Jews…”
>
>Many of the contributors to this book were Rabbis, who were ordained
>at Hebrew Union College, and who went on to work at various synagogues
>
>throughout the U.S. –despite being women, and despite being in
>homosexual relationships. Here is a list of some of the exclusively
>”Gay”/Lesbian synagogues mentioned:
>
>Mishkan Shalom (Pennsylvania), Congregation Beth Chayim Chadashim (Los
>
>Angeles), Gongregation Beth Israel (Pennsylvania), Reconstructionist
>Rabbinical College (Philadelphia), Beth Ahavah (Philadelphia).
>
>In addition to this, the book gives examples of Jewish/”Gay”
>literature:
>
>-Beck, Evelyn Torton, ed. “Nice Jewish Girls: A Lesbian Anthology.”
>”The first to affirm the uniqueness and variety of Jewish lesbian
>experience.”
>
>-Bloch, Alice. “The Law of Return.” About an American woman living in
>Israel, “exploring her Jewishness while also claiming her voice as a
>woman and a lesbian.”
>
>-“Coming Out, Coming Home: Lesbian and Gay Jews and the Jewish
>Community.” New York: New Jewish Agenda 1987.
>
>-Fierstein, Harvey. “Torch Song Trilogy.” Former broadway play about
>the “triumphs” and “tragedies” of a gay Jewish drag queen.
>
>-Geller, Ruth. “Triangles.” Based on the life of the Jewish/lesbian
>author’s grandmother.
>
>-Glickman, Gary. “Years from Now.” Describes three generations of a
>Jewish family, seen in part through the eyes of the gay grandson.
>
>-Kay/Kantrowitz, Melanie, and Irena Kepfisz, eds. “The Tribe of Dina:
>Jewish Women’s Anthology.” Lesbian feminist journal.
>
>-Newman, Leslea. “A Letter to Harvey Milk.” Nine short stories about a
>
>Jewish lesbian’s friends, relationships, and families.
>
>-“Out of Our Kitchen Closets: San Francisco Gay Jewish Cooking.”
>Published by the congregations Sha’ar Zahav. “…includes a history of
>
>this gay and lesbian congregation, as well as warm and wonderful
>stories of family recipes.”
>
>-Rich, Adrienne. “Blood, Bread and Poetry.” She “has published many
>work that illuminate her… unique Jewish lesbian-feminist
>perspective.”
>
>-Silverstein, Charles. “A Family Matter: A Parent’s Guide to
>Homosexuality.” “…the first to address this issue in an informative,
>
>sympathetic and respectful manner.” [another Jewish crusader against
>tradition!]
>
>Here are some of the people listed as contributors to “Twice Blessed”,
>
>along with their “qualifications.” This list of Jewish individuals
>active in Feminist, Socialist, “Gay”/Lesbian, and other causes, not to
>mention teaching at schools, and leading non-“gay” congregations
>should give you some idea of the extent of the problem
>we face in eliminating the homosexual threat:
>
>-Adina Abramowitz, lesbian, active in a newly formed synagogue in
>Pennsylvania, directs small business loan fund.
>
>-Martha A. Ackelsberg, professor of government at Smith College,
>founder of Jewish feminist group Ezrat Nashim and of B’Not Esh.
>
>-Rebecca T. Alpert, rabbi, Reconstructionist Rabbinical College,
>served as DEAN OF STUDENTS for two years. Member of B’Not Esh.
>Published widely in Jewish history, medical ethics, Feminism.
>
>-Evelyn Torton Beck, professor/director, Women’s studies program,
>professor Jewish studies at University of Maryland. Editor of “Nice
>Jewish Girls: A Lesbian anthology.” Wrote: “Kafka and the Yiddish
>Theater,” “The Prism of Sex.”
>
>-Paul Horowitz, Bar Mitzvah at an Orthodox synagogue, member of United
>
>Synagogue Youth, spent summers at secular socialist Camp Kinder-Ring
>of the Workmen’s Circle; an activist in antiwar, feminist, and gay
>liberation movements, his writing has appeared in Out/Look, the
>lesbian/gay quarterly, and NACLA’s Report on the Americas. He is a
>member of the New Jewish Agenda and Democratic Socialists of America.
>
>-Lesley M. Silversone, graduate of HUC, program directory of Temple
>Menorah in California. Presently working on a new textbook for primary
>
>grades for the Union of American Hebrew Congregations.
>
>-Felice Yeskel, social change activist, works as an organizational
>development consultant and human relations trainer for Diversity
>Works, Inc. with a variety of groups, including small businesses,
>religious and educational institutions, social service agencies, and
>community groups. –helping groups to deal with “cultural
>difference.” [–to swallow the multicultural agenda]
>
>-Alan D. Zamochnick, president of Beth Ahavah –Philadephia’s “gay”
>and lesbian synagogue, AIDS Project coordinator for a federal civil
>rights agency.
>
>-Christie Balka, activist, has written and spoken on Middle East
>issues, feminism, and lesbian gay issues. Served as national co-chair
>of New Jewish Agenda,associate director of Shalom Center. Active in
>local Jewish community and serves on her synagogue board.
>
>-Andy Rose, social worker, community activist, has worked in many
>Jewish institutions, including with children. Founding member,
>national co-chair of New Jewish Agenda. Co-ordinates Jewish
>communities AIDS project in San Francisco. Also serves on the UAHC
>AIDS Committee and is a board member of the AIDS National Interfaith
>Network.
>
>There are more, much more…
>
>
>
>On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:39:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 6 Nov 1997 05:06:18 GMT, [email protected] (Kevin MacNeil)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Geoff Casey writes:
>>>
>>>[. . . ]
>>>
>>>] Let’s not continue to encourage a lifestyle that sees an early death
>>>] for homosexual men (43 years about with or without AIDS) and a very high
>>>] suicide rate. I think it is 6 x the average.
>>>
>>>The suicide rate among gays is high because homophobic people like you
>>>turn them into social outcasts for living in a way which may well be
>>>innate and therefore not subject to change for the sake of convenience.
>>>Have you thought of that?
>>
>>
>>The suicide rate is so high, because the perverts prefer to kill
>>themselves and each other, by engaging in an unnatural, dangerous
>>lifestyle.
>>
>>The ONLY CURE FOR FAGGOTS, IS INSTANT CREMATION!!

From [email protected] Fri Oct 23 19:29:55 EDT 1998
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:25:40 +0100, “Derek Reed”
wrote:
>>>> …snipped…
>>It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
>>steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
>>privilege, n’est-ce pas??
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>

>If you’ve got a point to make, make it near the top, and snip the
>rest.
>Derek

For the benefit of those who want ALL the background info, here goes:
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0700, allonzo
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> …snipped…

>I have watched these fabricated allegations develop for years now.
>I arrest eh? Twenty seven charged and only one arrest. Thousands of
>pieces of mail missing,, uh huh.

> Tell us are cupw negotiating with the government on the issue of wages
>and conditions at this time.? You are what is politely called a ‘ provocateur’;
>a government creation not unknown in the internet history of newsgroups.
>The government hopes to scam millions off the backs of Canadians through
>ploys like this and others and then dump the proceeds into the laps of their
>big shot buddies.

It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
privilege, n’est-ce pas??

GET YOUR GOVERNMENT TO EMBARGO MAIL TO/FROM CANADA.
PUBLICISE THEFTS IN YOUR MEDIA.

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.

>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!

>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!

>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.

>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>THEM!!!

>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>at Canada Post include:

>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number

>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number

>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440

>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!

>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.

>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.

>>>>Read all the articles below!!!

>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.

>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.

>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.

>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.

>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.

>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.

>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.

>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.

>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:

>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>> Carl E. Kane
>>> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>> writes
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?

>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com

>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
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>>>
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On Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:08:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>The article below sheds further light on the problem relating to
>faggots!!!
>
>The pentateuch contains strong pronouncements against homosexuality,
>and secular Jews who desire “social justice” in reaction to these
>views have come to identify with homosexuals. Jewish people, as is
>noted elsewhere in this tome, are abstract thinkers who, as such, are
>blind to qualitative distinctions between discrimination
>against homosexuals and discrimination against Jews. The fact that
>homosexuals choose to engage in that form of lifestyle (or, at the
>very least, to make it public) is one such example of a qualitative
>distinction which a Jewish mind, committed to “social justice,” will
>gloss over.
>
>Moreover, Jewish people, who have a high neurosis rate compared to
>other peoples are likely more susceptible to homosexual maladaption.
>And Jewish women,who are already renowned for unhappiness in marriage
>may, when we consider that many of them are brought up in divorced
>homes (divorce being more common among Jews) very well be more
>inclined to lesbianism. (40% of all lesbians have dead or divorced
>mothers.)
>
>In consequence, the majority of Jews (who are irreligious or of a
>liberal bent) have come to identify with homosexuals. A consensus has
>been established that will necessitate, via Jewish influence, the
>ultimate political and cultural ascendency of homosexuality in North
>America. Part of this cultural trend can be seen in the spate
>of AIDS plays which Broadway is continually dishing out, the main
>focus of this appendix.
>
>”The play’s authors are almost all Jewish. _Angels in America_ is by
>Tony Kushner, _Jeffrey_ by Paul Rudnick, and both music and lyrics to
>_Falsettos_ are by William Finn. _The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me_ is
>by the only Gentile, David Drake, but the title’s Larry Kramer is
>Jewish and a real person, author of _The Normal Heart_ and _The
>Destiny of Me_, two angry AIDS-homosexual plays of
>1985 and 1992, respectively. (Barbra Streisand is currently planning a
>movie version of _The Normal Heart_.) In all these plays, a
>homosexual, usually a Jewish protagonist’s Gentile lover, dies of
>AIDS”
>
>”From the production’s opening number, “Four Jews in a Room Bitching,”
>
>through the last act –fully half of which is devoted to preparations
>for and the final culmination of young Jason’s Bar Mitzvah–
>_Falsettos_ is Jewish, Jewish, Jewish.”
>
>”Just who are the legions of theatregoers that have made homosexual
>theater commercially viable? Here we come to a curious recognition.
>Starting after WWII, Jewish playwrights succeeded on Broadway in large
>numbers, and at the same time Jews have come to dominate Broadway
>audiences… When I … was required for professional reasons to see
>almost everything on Broadway, I was intrigued to find theater
>audiences that seemed overwhelmingly Jewish –a point perhaps more
>noticeable to the son of a Jewish mother.” [Richard Grenier, “The
>Homosexual Millenium: Is it Here? Is it Approaching?” National Review,
>
>June 7, 1993. Another play, of note, is William Hoffman’s “As Is” and
>Fierstein’s “Torch Song Trilogy.”]
>
>In response to a letter accusing Mr. Grenier of Anti-Semitism, he
>responded: “The leading Jewish figures [of these plays] are
>homosexuals and most of the leading homosexuals are Jews. The
>characters talk endlessly about Jews and homosexuality, homosexual and
>Jews. The playwrights themselves find a correlation. Am I not
>to notice this?” [National Review, August 9, 1993]
>
>Angels in America_ is “‘One of the greatest… as funny as it is
>profound’ shouted USA Today. Frank Rich, guru of cultural New York,
>pronounced on the occasion of its opening in Los Angeles that Tony
>Kushner’s two-part, seven- hour _Angels in America_ had ‘created an
>original theatrical world’ that ‘once entered by the
>open-minded viewer of any sexual or political persuasion, simply
>cannot be escaped.’ This spring it won the Pulitzer Prize. Producers
>nearly shed blood amongst themselves over which of them would bankroll
>the play on Broadway. Rarely before have we seen the media in such a
>feeding frenzy. The New Yorker’s John Lahr practically swooned in
>ecstasy. ‘From its first beat, ‘Angels in America’ exhibited a
>ravishing command of its characters and of the discourse it
>wanted to have through them with our society.'”
>
>”Alienation is, indeed, one of the major themes of the play. The first
>
>scene, in which the old rabbi makes a funeral speech, sounds the tonic
>
>note of alienation –‘how we struggled, and how we fought, for the
>family, for the Jewish home, so that you would not grow up here, in
>this strange place, in the melting pot where nothing
>melted.’ For Kushner, being a Jew is a metaphor for being gay.” [Yale
>Kramer, “Angels on Broadway”, American Spectator, July 1993]
>
>———–
>
>TWICE BLESSED: ON BEING LESBIAN, “GAY,” AND JEWISH:
>
>The book “Twice Blessed: On Being Lesbian, Gay, AND Jewish” (ed. by
>Christie Balka and Andy Rose) features a helpful list of Jewish/”Gay”
>articles and organizations, some of which I will quote here to
>deliniate the scope of the phenomenom of Jewish support for
>homosexuality.
>
>Landmark Articles in Building Pro-homosexual Consensus….:
>
>As has been pointed out, gay Jews, and their secular supporters have
>managed to build a consensus in support of homosexuality. This process
>
>can be observed in”landmark” articles which have appeared in major
>Jewish periodicals. Here is a list of several pro-homosexual articles
>which have appeared in major Jewish
>periodicals, in chronological order, as featured in “Twice Blessed”:
>
>1973) “Judaism and Homosexuality.” _CCAR Journal_ 20, no. 3 (Summer
>1973). “This symposium in the journal of the Reform movement was
>inspired by the application of Beth Chayim Chadashim, a gay and
>lesbian outreach congregation… for admission to the Union of
>American Hebrew Congregations.”
>
>1975) “Must Homosexuals Be Jewish Outcasts?” _Sh’ma_ 5:98 (October 3,
>1975), pp.303-5. “…first published article by a gay Jew in a
>mainstream Jewish periodical… calls for tolerance and acceptance.”
>
>1977) Mehler, Barry. “Gay Jews: One Man’s Journey from Closet to
>Community.” _Moment_ 2, no. 5 (February/March 1977): 22-24. “…a
>moving personal account of coming out and finding a home in the gay
>community.”
>
>1978) Matt, Hershel J. “Sin, Crime, Sickness or Alternative Life
>Style?: A Jewish Approach to Homosexuality.” _Judaism_ 27
>(1978):13-24. “For many years this essay was considered to be the
>authoritative liberal Jewish statement on homosexuality…. [they
>should be] accepted as they are. He calls for a marriage
>ceremony or similiar affirmation for gay and lesbian Jews.”
>
>1985) Marder, Janet R. “Getting to Know the Gay and Lesbian Shul.”
>_Reconstruct- ionist_ 51, no. 2 (October/November 1985):20-25. “Marder
>
>describers her own growth as a rabbi of Beth Chayim Chadashim. This
>journal issue… includes three other gay-supportive articles.”
>
>1986) “Homosexuality.” _Keeping Posted_ 32, no. 2 (October 1986).
>_Keeping posted_ is the Reform movement’s magazine for HIGH SCHOOL
>education.”This… edition includes a description of gay
>congregations, medical and psychological facts, and two young Jews’
>personal narratives about coming out.”
>
>1987) Matt, Hershel J. “Homosexual Rabbis?” _Conservative Judaism_ 39,
>
>no. 3 (1987):29-33. “Matt calls for the complete rejection of
>traditional Jewish teaching and supports the ordination of gays and
>lesbians as rabbis.”
>
>1988) Kirschner, Robert. “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Reappraisal.”
>_Judaism_ 37, no. 4 (Fall 1988): 450-58. “Kirscher argues that…
>halakhic creativity should be used to suspend the application of
>traditional Jewish law…. with homosexuals therefore being fully
>accepted and integrated in Jewish communal life.”
>
>Along with the landmark articles presented, this book also presents a
>handy list of Jewish/”Gay” Organizations. Here are a few of the more
>renowned ones:
>
>1) “Ameinu,” New York –a network of lesbians and gay men working
>professionally in the Jewish community.
>2) “New Jewish Agenda,” New York –provides gay educational resources,
>and “work-shops” on the topic of “homophobia.” [It is not irrational
>to fear a people who predominately carry a deadly, contagious
>disease.]
>3) “World Congress of Gay and Lesbian Jewish Organizations,”
>Washington.
> 4) “Jewish Lesbian Daughters of Holocaust Survivors.”
>5) “Union of American Hebrew Congregations,” New York. On the back of
>the book, the Rabbi President of this organization is quoted as
>follows:
>”[This book] reveals… that we are not so immune to the very
>process of stigmatization by which we as Jews have been shunned and
>persecuted and massacred. We have not extended our embrace to include
>gay and lesbian Jews, affirming that we ALL are family, that they and
>their relatives are OUR sons, OUR sisters, OUR neighbors, OUR fellow
>Jews…”
>
>Many of the contributors to this book were Rabbis, who were ordained
>at Hebrew Union College, and who went on to work at various synagogues
>
>throughout the U.S. –despite being women, and despite being in
>homosexual relationships. Here is a list of some of the exclusively
>”Gay”/Lesbian synagogues mentioned:
>
>Mishkan Shalom (Pennsylvania), Congregation Beth Chayim Chadashim (Los
>
>Angeles), Gongregation Beth Israel (Pennsylvania), Reconstructionist
>Rabbinical College (Philadelphia), Beth Ahavah (Philadelphia).
>
>In addition to this, the book gives examples of Jewish/”Gay”
>literature:
>
>-Beck, Evelyn Torton, ed. “Nice Jewish Girls: A Lesbian Anthology.”
>”The first to affirm the uniqueness and variety of Jewish lesbian
>experience.”
>
>-Bloch, Alice. “The Law of Return.” About an American woman living in
>Israel, “exploring her Jewishness while also claiming her voice as a
>woman and a lesbian.”
>
>-“Coming Out, Coming Home: Lesbian and Gay Jews and the Jewish
>Community.” New York: New Jewish Agenda 1987.
>
>-Fierstein, Harvey. “Torch Song Trilogy.” Former broadway play about
>the “triumphs” and “tragedies” of a gay Jewish drag queen.
>
>-Geller, Ruth. “Triangles.” Based on the life of the Jewish/lesbian
>author’s grandmother.
>
>-Glickman, Gary. “Years from Now.” Describes three generations of a
>Jewish family, seen in part through the eyes of the gay grandson.
>
>-Kay/Kantrowitz, Melanie, and Irena Kepfisz, eds. “The Tribe of Dina:
>Jewish Women’s Anthology.” Lesbian feminist journal.
>
>-Newman, Leslea. “A Letter to Harvey Milk.” Nine short stories about a
>
>Jewish lesbian’s friends, relationships, and families.
>
>-“Out of Our Kitchen Closets: San Francisco Gay Jewish Cooking.”
>Published by the congregations Sha’ar Zahav. “…includes a history of
>
>this gay and lesbian congregation, as well as warm and wonderful
>stories of family recipes.”
>
>-Rich, Adrienne. “Blood, Bread and Poetry.” She “has published many
>work that illuminate her… unique Jewish lesbian-feminist
>perspective.”
>
>-Silverstein, Charles. “A Family Matter: A Parent’s Guide to
>Homosexuality.” “…the first to address this issue in an informative,
>
>sympathetic and respectful manner.” [another Jewish crusader against
>tradition!]
>
>Here are some of the people listed as contributors to “Twice Blessed”,
>
>along with their “qualifications.” This list of Jewish individuals
>active in Feminist, Socialist, “Gay”/Lesbian, and other causes, not to
>mention teaching at schools, and leading non-“gay” congregations
>should give you some idea of the extent of the problem
>we face in eliminating the homosexual threat:
>
>-Adina Abramowitz, lesbian, active in a newly formed synagogue in
>Pennsylvania, directs small business loan fund.
>
>-Martha A. Ackelsberg, professor of government at Smith College,
>founder of Jewish feminist group Ezrat Nashim and of B’Not Esh.
>
>-Rebecca T. Alpert, rabbi, Reconstructionist Rabbinical College,
>served as DEAN OF STUDENTS for two years. Member of B’Not Esh.
>Published widely in Jewish history, medical ethics, Feminism.
>
>-Evelyn Torton Beck, professor/director, Women’s studies program,
>professor Jewish studies at University of Maryland. Editor of “Nice
>Jewish Girls: A Lesbian anthology.” Wrote: “Kafka and the Yiddish
>Theater,” “The Prism of Sex.”
>
>-Paul Horowitz, Bar Mitzvah at an Orthodox synagogue, member of United
>
>Synagogue Youth, spent summers at secular socialist Camp Kinder-Ring
>of the Workmen’s Circle; an activist in antiwar, feminist, and gay
>liberation movements, his writing has appeared in Out/Look, the
>lesbian/gay quarterly, and NACLA’s Report on the Americas. He is a
>member of the New Jewish Agenda and Democratic Socialists of America.
>
>-Lesley M. Silversone, graduate of HUC, program directory of Temple
>Menorah in California. Presently working on a new textbook for primary
>
>grades for the Union of American Hebrew Congregations.
>
>-Felice Yeskel, social change activist, works as an organizational
>development consultant and human relations trainer for Diversity
>Works, Inc. with a variety of groups, including small businesses,
>religious and educational institutions, social service agencies, and
>community groups. –helping groups to deal with “cultural
>difference.” [–to swallow the multicultural agenda]
>
>-Alan D. Zamochnick, president of Beth Ahavah –Philadephia’s “gay”
>and lesbian synagogue, AIDS Project coordinator for a federal civil
>rights agency.
>
>-Christie Balka, activist, has written and spoken on Middle East
>issues, feminism, and lesbian gay issues. Served as national co-chair
>of New Jewish Agenda,associate director of Shalom Center. Active in
>local Jewish community and serves on her synagogue board.
>
>-Andy Rose, social worker, community activist, has worked in many
>Jewish institutions, including with children. Founding member,
>national co-chair of New Jewish Agenda. Co-ordinates Jewish
>communities AIDS project in San Francisco. Also serves on the UAHC
>AIDS Committee and is a board member of the AIDS National Interfaith
>Network.
>
>There are more, much more…
>
>
>
>On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:39:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 6 Nov 1997 05:06:18 GMT, [email protected] (Kevin MacNeil)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Geoff Casey writes:
>>>
>>>[. . . ]
>>>
>>>] Let’s not continue to encourage a lifestyle that sees an early death
>>>] for homosexual men (43 years about with or without AIDS) and a very high
>>>] suicide rate. I think it is 6 x the average.
>>>
>>>The suicide rate among gays is high because homophobic people like you
>>>turn them into social outcasts for living in a way which may well be
>>>innate and therefore not subject to change for the sake of convenience.
>>>Have you thought of that?
>>
>>
>>The suicide rate is so high, because the perverts prefer to kill
>>themselves and each other, by engaging in an unnatural, dangerous
>>lifestyle.
>>
>>The ONLY CURE FOR FAGGOTS, IS INSTANT CREMATION!!

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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:39:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If you have contacts with Freeport-McMoran, perhaps the news will help
>them in suing Sherritt, and perhaps the Canucklehead government.
>
>Help free Cuba from the crooks paying off to a bankrupt Canadian
>company!!!
>
>
>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, [email protected] (Pedro
>Martori ) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>Life Insurance??
>>>
>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>YEARS??
>>>
>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million – crooks in Canada, or in
>>>Cuba??
>>>
>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>reparations??
>>>
>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>>
>>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.
>>
>> This is the type of monkey business that canadian premiers have
>>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba…
>> Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>> to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>>********************************************
>>Pedro Martori – Montreal, Qc, Canada
>> [email protected]
>>********************************************

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On Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:08:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>The article below sheds further light on the problem relating to
>faggots!!!
>
>The pentateuch contains strong pronouncements against homosexuality,
>and secular Jews who desire “social justice” in reaction to these
>views have come to identify with homosexuals. Jewish people, as is
>noted elsewhere in this tome, are abstract thinkers who, as such, are
>blind to qualitative distinctions between discrimination
>against homosexuals and discrimination against Jews. The fact that
>homosexuals choose to engage in that form of lifestyle (or, at the
>very least, to make it public) is one such example of a qualitative
>distinction which a Jewish mind, committed to “social justice,” will
>gloss over.
>
>Moreover, Jewish people, who have a high neurosis rate compared to
>other peoples are likely more susceptible to homosexual maladaption.
>And Jewish women,who are already renowned for unhappiness in marriage
>may, when we consider that many of them are brought up in divorced
>homes (divorce being more common among Jews) very well be more
>inclined to lesbianism. (40% of all lesbians have dead or divorced
>mothers.)
>
>In consequence, the majority of Jews (who are irreligious or of a
>liberal bent) have come to identify with homosexuals. A consensus has
>been established that will necessitate, via Jewish influence, the
>ultimate political and cultural ascendency of homosexuality in North
>America. Part of this cultural trend can be seen in the spate
>of AIDS plays which Broadway is continually dishing out, the main
>focus of this appendix.
>
>”The play’s authors are almost all Jewish. _Angels in America_ is by
>Tony Kushner, _Jeffrey_ by Paul Rudnick, and both music and lyrics to
>_Falsettos_ are by William Finn. _The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me_ is
>by the only Gentile, David Drake, but the title’s Larry Kramer is
>Jewish and a real person, author of _The Normal Heart_ and _The
>Destiny of Me_, two angry AIDS-homosexual plays of
>1985 and 1992, respectively. (Barbra Streisand is currently planning a
>movie version of _The Normal Heart_.) In all these plays, a
>homosexual, usually a Jewish protagonist’s Gentile lover, dies of
>AIDS”
>
>”From the production’s opening number, “Four Jews in a Room Bitching,”
>
>through the last act –fully half of which is devoted to preparations
>for and the final culmination of young Jason’s Bar Mitzvah–
>_Falsettos_ is Jewish, Jewish, Jewish.”
>
>”Just who are the legions of theatregoers that have made homosexual
>theater commercially viable? Here we come to a curious recognition.
>Starting after WWII, Jewish playwrights succeeded on Broadway in large
>numbers, and at the same time Jews have come to dominate Broadway
>audiences… When I … was required for professional reasons to see
>almost everything on Broadway, I was intrigued to find theater
>audiences that seemed overwhelmingly Jewish –a point perhaps more
>noticeable to the son of a Jewish mother.” [Richard Grenier, “The
>Homosexual Millenium: Is it Here? Is it Approaching?” National Review,
>
>June 7, 1993. Another play, of note, is William Hoffman’s “As Is” and
>Fierstein’s “Torch Song Trilogy.”]
>
>In response to a letter accusing Mr. Grenier of Anti-Semitism, he
>responded: “The leading Jewish figures [of these plays] are
>homosexuals and most of the leading homosexuals are Jews. The
>characters talk endlessly about Jews and homosexuality, homosexual and
>Jews. The playwrights themselves find a correlation. Am I not
>to notice this?” [National Review, August 9, 1993]
>
>Angels in America_ is “‘One of the greatest… as funny as it is
>profound’ shouted USA Today. Frank Rich, guru of cultural New York,
>pronounced on the occasion of its opening in Los Angeles that Tony
>Kushner’s two-part, seven- hour _Angels in America_ had ‘created an
>original theatrical world’ that ‘once entered by the
>open-minded viewer of any sexual or political persuasion, simply
>cannot be escaped.’ This spring it won the Pulitzer Prize. Producers
>nearly shed blood amongst themselves over which of them would bankroll
>the play on Broadway. Rarely before have we seen the media in such a
>feeding frenzy. The New Yorker’s John Lahr practically swooned in
>ecstasy. ‘From its first beat, ‘Angels in America’ exhibited a
>ravishing command of its characters and of the discourse it
>wanted to have through them with our society.'”
>
>”Alienation is, indeed, one of the major themes of the play. The first
>
>scene, in which the old rabbi makes a funeral speech, sounds the tonic
>
>note of alienation –‘how we struggled, and how we fought, for the
>family, for the Jewish home, so that you would not grow up here, in
>this strange place, in the melting pot where nothing
>melted.’ For Kushner, being a Jew is a metaphor for being gay.” [Yale
>Kramer, “Angels on Broadway”, American Spectator, July 1993]
>
>———–
>
>TWICE BLESSED: ON BEING LESBIAN, “GAY,” AND JEWISH:
>
>The book “Twice Blessed: On Being Lesbian, Gay, AND Jewish” (ed. by
>Christie Balka and Andy Rose) features a helpful list of Jewish/”Gay”
>articles and organizations, some of which I will quote here to
>deliniate the scope of the phenomenom of Jewish support for
>homosexuality.
>
>Landmark Articles in Building Pro-homosexual Consensus….:
>
>As has been pointed out, gay Jews, and their secular supporters have
>managed to build a consensus in support of homosexuality. This process
>
>can be observed in”landmark” articles which have appeared in major
>Jewish periodicals. Here is a list of several pro-homosexual articles
>which have appeared in major Jewish
>periodicals, in chronological order, as featured in “Twice Blessed”:
>
>1973) “Judaism and Homosexuality.” _CCAR Journal_ 20, no. 3 (Summer
>1973). “This symposium in the journal of the Reform movement was
>inspired by the application of Beth Chayim Chadashim, a gay and
>lesbian outreach congregation… for admission to the Union of
>American Hebrew Congregations.”
>
>1975) “Must Homosexuals Be Jewish Outcasts?” _Sh’ma_ 5:98 (October 3,
>1975), pp.303-5. “…first published article by a gay Jew in a
>mainstream Jewish periodical… calls for tolerance and acceptance.”
>
>1977) Mehler, Barry. “Gay Jews: One Man’s Journey from Closet to
>Community.” _Moment_ 2, no. 5 (February/March 1977): 22-24. “…a
>moving personal account of coming out and finding a home in the gay
>community.”
>
>1978) Matt, Hershel J. “Sin, Crime, Sickness or Alternative Life
>Style?: A Jewish Approach to Homosexuality.” _Judaism_ 27
>(1978):13-24. “For many years this essay was considered to be the
>authoritative liberal Jewish statement on homosexuality…. [they
>should be] accepted as they are. He calls for a marriage
>ceremony or similiar affirmation for gay and lesbian Jews.”
>
>1985) Marder, Janet R. “Getting to Know the Gay and Lesbian Shul.”
>_Reconstruct- ionist_ 51, no. 2 (October/November 1985):20-25. “Marder
>
>describers her own growth as a rabbi of Beth Chayim Chadashim. This
>journal issue… includes three other gay-supportive articles.”
>
>1986) “Homosexuality.” _Keeping Posted_ 32, no. 2 (October 1986).
>_Keeping posted_ is the Reform movement’s magazine for HIGH SCHOOL
>education.”This… edition includes a description of gay
>congregations, medical and psychological facts, and two young Jews’
>personal narratives about coming out.”
>
>1987) Matt, Hershel J. “Homosexual Rabbis?” _Conservative Judaism_ 39,
>
>no. 3 (1987):29-33. “Matt calls for the complete rejection of
>traditional Jewish teaching and supports the ordination of gays and
>lesbians as rabbis.”
>
>1988) Kirschner, Robert. “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Reappraisal.”
>_Judaism_ 37, no. 4 (Fall 1988): 450-58. “Kirscher argues that…
>halakhic creativity should be used to suspend the application of
>traditional Jewish law…. with homosexuals therefore being fully
>accepted and integrated in Jewish communal life.”
>
>Along with the landmark articles presented, this book also presents a
>handy list of Jewish/”Gay” Organizations. Here are a few of the more
>renowned ones:
>
>1) “Ameinu,” New York –a network of lesbians and gay men working
>professionally in the Jewish community.
>2) “New Jewish Agenda,” New York –provides gay educational resources,
>and “work-shops” on the topic of “homophobia.” [It is not irrational
>to fear a people who predominately carry a deadly, contagious
>disease.]
>3) “World Congress of Gay and Lesbian Jewish Organizations,”
>Washington.
> 4) “Jewish Lesbian Daughters of Holocaust Survivors.”
>5) “Union of American Hebrew Congregations,” New York. On the back of
>the book, the Rabbi President of this organization is quoted as
>follows:
>”[This book] reveals… that we are not so immune to the very
>process of stigmatization by which we as Jews have been shunned and
>persecuted and massacred. We have not extended our embrace to include
>gay and lesbian Jews, affirming that we ALL are family, that they and
>their relatives are OUR sons, OUR sisters, OUR neighbors, OUR fellow
>Jews…”
>
>Many of the contributors to this book were Rabbis, who were ordained
>at Hebrew Union College, and who went on to work at various synagogues
>
>throughout the U.S. –despite being women, and despite being in
>homosexual relationships. Here is a list of some of the exclusively
>”Gay”/Lesbian synagogues mentioned:
>
>Mishkan Shalom (Pennsylvania), Congregation Beth Chayim Chadashim (Los
>
>Angeles), Gongregation Beth Israel (Pennsylvania), Reconstructionist
>Rabbinical College (Philadelphia), Beth Ahavah (Philadelphia).
>
>In addition to this, the book gives examples of Jewish/”Gay”
>literature:
>
>-Beck, Evelyn Torton, ed. “Nice Jewish Girls: A Lesbian Anthology.”
>”The first to affirm the uniqueness and variety of Jewish lesbian
>experience.”
>
>-Bloch, Alice. “The Law of Return.” About an American woman living in
>Israel, “exploring her Jewishness while also claiming her voice as a
>woman and a lesbian.”
>
>-“Coming Out, Coming Home: Lesbian and Gay Jews and the Jewish
>Community.” New York: New Jewish Agenda 1987.
>
>-Fierstein, Harvey. “Torch Song Trilogy.” Former broadway play about
>the “triumphs” and “tragedies” of a gay Jewish drag queen.
>
>-Geller, Ruth. “Triangles.” Based on the life of the Jewish/lesbian
>author’s grandmother.
>
>-Glickman, Gary. “Years from Now.” Describes three generations of a
>Jewish family, seen in part through the eyes of the gay grandson.
>
>-Kay/Kantrowitz, Melanie, and Irena Kepfisz, eds. “The Tribe of Dina:
>Jewish Women’s Anthology.” Lesbian feminist journal.
>
>-Newman, Leslea. “A Letter to Harvey Milk.” Nine short stories about a
>
>Jewish lesbian’s friends, relationships, and families.
>
>-“Out of Our Kitchen Closets: San Francisco Gay Jewish Cooking.”
>Published by the congregations Sha’ar Zahav. “…includes a history of
>
>this gay and lesbian congregation, as well as warm and wonderful
>stories of family recipes.”
>
>-Rich, Adrienne. “Blood, Bread and Poetry.” She “has published many
>work that illuminate her… unique Jewish lesbian-feminist
>perspective.”
>
>-Silverstein, Charles. “A Family Matter: A Parent’s Guide to
>Homosexuality.” “…the first to address this issue in an informative,
>
>sympathetic and respectful manner.” [another Jewish crusader against
>tradition!]
>
>Here are some of the people listed as contributors to “Twice Blessed”,
>
>along with their “qualifications.” This list of Jewish individuals
>active in Feminist, Socialist, “Gay”/Lesbian, and other causes, not to
>mention teaching at schools, and leading non-“gay” congregations
>should give you some idea of the extent of the problem
>we face in eliminating the homosexual threat:
>
>-Adina Abramowitz, lesbian, active in a newly formed synagogue in
>Pennsylvania, directs small business loan fund.
>
>-Martha A. Ackelsberg, professor of government at Smith College,
>founder of Jewish feminist group Ezrat Nashim and of B’Not Esh.
>
>-Rebecca T. Alpert, rabbi, Reconstructionist Rabbinical College,
>served as DEAN OF STUDENTS for two years. Member of B’Not Esh.
>Published widely in Jewish history, medical ethics, Feminism.
>
>-Evelyn Torton Beck, professor/director, Women’s studies program,
>professor Jewish studies at University of Maryland. Editor of “Nice
>Jewish Girls: A Lesbian anthology.” Wrote: “Kafka and the Yiddish
>Theater,” “The Prism of Sex.”
>
>-Paul Horowitz, Bar Mitzvah at an Orthodox synagogue, member of United
>
>Synagogue Youth, spent summers at secular socialist Camp Kinder-Ring
>of the Workmen’s Circle; an activist in antiwar, feminist, and gay
>liberation movements, his writing has appeared in Out/Look, the
>lesbian/gay quarterly, and NACLA’s Report on the Americas. He is a
>member of the New Jewish Agenda and Democratic Socialists of America.
>
>-Lesley M. Silversone, graduate of HUC, program directory of Temple
>Menorah in California. Presently working on a new textbook for primary
>
>grades for the Union of American Hebrew Congregations.
>
>-Felice Yeskel, social change activist, works as an organizational
>development consultant and human relations trainer for Diversity
>Works, Inc. with a variety of groups, including small businesses,
>religious and educational institutions, social service agencies, and
>community groups. –helping groups to deal with “cultural
>difference.” [–to swallow the multicultural agenda]
>
>-Alan D. Zamochnick, president of Beth Ahavah –Philadephia’s “gay”
>and lesbian synagogue, AIDS Project coordinator for a federal civil
>rights agency.
>
>-Christie Balka, activist, has written and spoken on Middle East
>issues, feminism, and lesbian gay issues. Served as national co-chair
>of New Jewish Agenda,associate director of Shalom Center. Active in
>local Jewish community and serves on her synagogue board.
>
>-Andy Rose, social worker, community activist, has worked in many
>Jewish institutions, including with children. Founding member,
>national co-chair of New Jewish Agenda. Co-ordinates Jewish
>communities AIDS project in San Francisco. Also serves on the UAHC
>AIDS Committee and is a board member of the AIDS National Interfaith
>Network.
>
>There are more, much more…
>
>
>
>On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:39:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 6 Nov 1997 05:06:18 GMT, [email protected] (Kevin MacNeil)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Geoff Casey writes:
>>>
>>>[. . . ]
>>>
>>>] Let’s not continue to encourage a lifestyle that sees an early death
>>>] for homosexual men (43 years about with or without AIDS) and a very high
>>>] suicide rate. I think it is 6 x the average.
>>>
>>>The suicide rate among gays is high because homophobic people like you
>>>turn them into social outcasts for living in a way which may well be
>>>innate and therefore not subject to change for the sake of convenience.
>>>Have you thought of that?
>>
>>
>>The suicide rate is so high, because the perverts prefer to kill
>>themselves and each other, by engaging in an unnatural, dangerous
>>lifestyle.
>>
>>The ONLY CURE FOR FAGGOTS, IS INSTANT CREMATION!!

From [email protected] Fri Oct 23 19:32:39 EDT 1998
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:36:50 GMT, [email protected] representing
JEW cvriminals like Meyer Lansky and others deported by Fidel Castro
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:59:45 GMT, [email protected] (Pedro
Martori ) wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:37:05 -0400, “Fascio”
> wrote:
>
>>ladron que roba a otro ladron tiene 100 an~os de perdon.

> MUY BIEN DICHO…!

>********************************************
>Pedro Martori – Montreal, Qc, Canada
> [email protected]
>********************************************

Subject: Canada Post Managers Can STEAL MAIL!!!
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:38 GMT

On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
Bill of Rights.

The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
Education department of the Government of Cuba!!

Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
they stop stealing mail!!!

Surely the managers in Canada Post are not being paid by the CIA to
steal mail sent to Cuba??

>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>foreign government department. (The Education department of the Government of Cuba)
>>The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>> One must wonder whether the CIA have “arranged” to have items for Cuba
>>stolen by Canada Post managers???

>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>campaign.

>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>THEM!!!

>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>at Canada Post include:

>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number

>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number

>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440

>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>mail to and from Canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it disappearing!!!

On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:35:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
>insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
>Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??

>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.

>>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>>Canadian/US relations, what???

>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>Life Insurance??

>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>YEARS??

>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million – crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>Cuba??

>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>reparations??

>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!

>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????

>On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, [email protected] (Ricardoag) wrote:

>>Wednesday, July 8, 1998

>>Helms won’t let Sherritt off the hook

>>By PETER MORTON
>>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post
>> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say.
>> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday.

>> “Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>>see Sherritt off the hook,” said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>>negotiations.

>> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>>essentially “immunize” Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>>since then, the source said.

>> “In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity ­ all with the blessing of
>>the U.S. government,” Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>>State Madeline Albright.

>> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans.

>> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton.

>> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms’s concerns.
>> “We’re not agreeable to modifying the agreement,” he said.
>> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>>presented to Congress.

>> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>>of dollars.

>> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>>if the EU ensured the two countries’ terrorism campaigns were not being
>>supported.

>> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi.

>> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away.
>> “There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration,” an official said.
>> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba.
>> “Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached,” he said.
>> ricardo a. gonzalez
sven88

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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:39:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If you have contacts with Freeport-McMoran, perhaps the news will help
>them in suing Sherritt, and perhaps the Canucklehead government.
>
>Help free Cuba from the crooks paying off to a bankrupt Canadian
>company!!!
>
>
>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, [email protected] (Pedro
>Martori ) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>Life Insurance??
>>>
>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>YEARS??
>>>
>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million – crooks in Canada, or in
>>>Cuba??
>>>
>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>reparations??
>>>
>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>>
>>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.
>>
>> This is the type of monkey business that canadian premiers have
>>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba…
>> Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>> to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>>********************************************
>>Pedro Martori – Montreal, Qc, Canada
>> [email protected]
>>********************************************

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>
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>>>
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>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>>
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>>>
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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:47:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:26:43, kenoy wrote:
>
>>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES
>
>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.
>-88-

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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:43:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:49:07 GMT, [email protected] (Simonovsky Pavel)
>>wrote:
>
>>>On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:29:20 -0500, Susan Cohen
>>>wrote:
>>>!>Steve Simons wrote:
>
>>>!>> THERE IS A PASSAGE IN THE TALMUD THATS SAYS JEWS SHOULD CHEAT
>>>!NON-JEWS
>>>!>> FOR THEIR WEALTH IS NOTHING MORE THAN PUBLIC PROPERTY, GOOD FOR
>>>!THE
>>>!>> TAKING.
>
>>>>I notice you don’t exactly quote the phrase – from whence it specifically
>>>>comes.Oh, that’s right, you can’t, because this is a complete lie!
>
>>>No it is not “complete lie”. I remember that on our book for Hebrew
>>>studies in Tel Aviv university we read the same fragment from talmud.
>>>Of cause I don’t remeber from which his part and wich page exactly.,
>>>but may be you will say , that authors of this book were also
>>>”antisemitic liers”?
>
>>When even a JEW admits that this portion is in the TALMUD, one must
>>wonder about what else is in the Talmud, about swindling, and perhaps
>>killing non-JEWS????

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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, [email protected] (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>
>>>> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
>>>
>>>> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>>>
>>>> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>
>>>> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well.
>>>
>>>> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring.
>>>
>>>> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>> About 300,000.
>>>
>>>> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>>>
>>>> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>>>
>>>> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>> About two hours.
>>>
>>>> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>> About 430,600.
>>>
>>>> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>
>>>> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>>>
>>>> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>>>
>>>> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text.
>>>
>>>> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>>>
>>>> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>>>>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>>>
>>>> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>
>>>> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada.
>>>
>>>> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>> Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making.
>>>
>>>> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>>>>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>> Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>>>
>>>> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany.
>>>
>>>> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>[email protected] – W.S.
>>>
>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>
>>> —————————————————————————
>>>
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>>
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>>
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>>
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>>
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>>
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>>
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>>
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew> could
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>>
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>>
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>>
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>>
>>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 20:25:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>I guess that the Polish people should forget the important role that
>the cursed JEW FELIX DZERZHINSKI did for the damn communists?/
>
>When he established the Soviet Secret Police – the CHEKA, to murder
>100 million non-Jews throughout eastern Europe??
>
>I guess the Christkillers and their supporters consider this not
>important?/
>Pfah…
>
>
>
>
>On 19 Jun 1998 04:00:25 GMT, wrote:
>
>> Mr Trela, yes that’s true, some of the Jews in our generation are sort of
>>prejudiced against the Poles. Not a very nice fact, but frankly, not a
>>very significant fact to discuss (let alone to argue with anyone who _is_
>>slightly prejudiced). And, by the way, wouldn’t you agree that there exist
>>probably THOUSANDS times more Poles (I am not speaking about Polish
>>intellectuals) who _hate_ Jews, most of them without having seen a single
>>Jew in their life.
>> So please forgive those relatively SOFT negative feelings of Mr. Grigori
>>and of “pan” Igal. Not a big deal, really…

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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:42 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP wrote:
>
>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London’s History
>
>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>
>>>Revealed: The men accused in
>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>
>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters
>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was
>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank
>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at
>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>
>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has
>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest
>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>
>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38,
>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their
>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>
>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of
>>>what Mr Field described as ‘an extended family’ about
>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing
>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed
>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by
>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage
>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>
>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with
>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members
>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used
>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>
>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the
>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill,
>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation
>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>
>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter,
>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight
>>>to clear his name.
>
>>>’This investigation is without foundation and is a complete
>>>waste of taxpayers’ money,’ he insisted. ‘All of our finances
>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>
>>>’It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism.
>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent
>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to
>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>
>>>’When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a
>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed.
>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.’
>
>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached
>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: ‘He has no
>>>comment to make.’ Eichenstein lists his official home
>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home
>>>where his wife and children live.
>
>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm
>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of
>>>the men’s companies con-firmed that they had been contacted
>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing
>>>to examine their records.
>
>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a
>>>network of companies and properties associated
>>>with the family.
>
>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein
>>>are within a stone’s throw of each other on the Stamford
>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties
>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein’s home.
>
>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties
>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>
>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a
>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling
>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>
>>>Police activity is all but non-existent – patrol cars are
>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related
>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the
>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>
>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to
>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to
>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the
>>>end of this month.
>
>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids
>>>on four houses in April – is seen by Mr Field as the first
>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>
>>>Ministers have decided that they want to ‘name and shame’
>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a
>>>’revival of common decencies’.
>
>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised
>>>housing benefit rackets in London – an initiative which
>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>
>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting
>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious
>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of
>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and
>>>other cities in Britain.
>
>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime
>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>
>>>The Minister said: ‘We are going for the big boys, while
>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much
>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in
>>>Britain today.’
>
>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31
>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite
>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.

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Subject: Der ewige Jude [The Eternal Jew]

The Film of a 2000-Year Rat Migration

————————————————————————

The Eternal Jew is the first film that not only gives a full picture
of Jewry, but provides a broad treatment of the life and effects of
this parasitic race using genuine material taken from real life. It
also shows why healthy peoples in every age have responded to the Jews
with disgust and loathing, often enough expressing their feelings
though deeds.

Just like rats, the Jews 2000 years ago moved from the Middle East, to
Egypt, at that time a flourishing land. Even then they had all the
criminal traits they display today, even then they were the enemy of
hard-working, creative peoples. In large hordes they migrated from
there to the “Promised Land,” flooded the entire Mediterranean region,
broke into Spain, France and Southern Germany, then followed the
German colonists as they moved into the
countries of the East. Along they way they remained eternal parasites,
haggling and cheating, Poland above all became the enormous reservoir
>from which Jewry sent its agents to every leading nation of Europe and
the world.

The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples of this
new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they
reach their goal and control finance.

The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
desperate and horrible death struggle of the
slaughtered animals. Long before the seizure of power, the NSDAP
fought against Jewish slaughter. National Socialist representatives in
parliament repeatedly introduced legislation to abolish this form of
animal torture through a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were
always rejected, since the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press
ran long articles against them and the so-called German parties
refused to support National Socialism in its battle against this evil.

Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.

One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
struggle.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 23 19:34:02 EDT 1998
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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.

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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!

From [email protected] Fri Oct 23 19:35:46 EDT 1998
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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.

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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:43:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 07:49:07 GMT, [email protected] (Simonovsky Pavel)
>>wrote:
>
>>>On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 01:29:20 -0500, Susan Cohen
>>>wrote:
>>>!>Steve Simons wrote:
>
>>>!>> THERE IS A PASSAGE IN THE TALMUD THATS SAYS JEWS SHOULD CHEAT
>>>!NON-JEWS
>>>!>> FOR THEIR WEALTH IS NOTHING MORE THAN PUBLIC PROPERTY, GOOD FOR
>>>!THE
>>>!>> TAKING.
>
>>>>I notice you don’t exactly quote the phrase – from whence it specifically
>>>>comes.Oh, that’s right, you can’t, because this is a complete lie!
>
>>>No it is not “complete lie”. I remember that on our book for Hebrew
>>>studies in Tel Aviv university we read the same fragment from talmud.
>>>Of cause I don’t remeber from which his part and wich page exactly.,
>>>but may be you will say , that authors of this book were also
>>>”antisemitic liers”?
>
>>When even a JEW admits that this portion is in the TALMUD, one must
>>wonder about what else is in the Talmud, about swindling, and perhaps
>>killing non-JEWS????

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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, [email protected] (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>
>>>> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
>>>
>>>> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>>>
>>>> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>
>>>> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well.
>>>
>>>> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring.
>>>
>>>> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>> About 300,000.
>>>
>>>> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>>>
>>>> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>>>
>>>> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>> About two hours.
>>>
>>>> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>> About 430,600.
>>>
>>>> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>
>>>> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>>>
>>>> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>>>
>>>> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text.
>>>
>>>> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>>>
>>>> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>>>>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>>>
>>>> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>
>>>> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada.
>>>
>>>> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>> Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making.
>>>
>>>> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>>>>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>> Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>>>
>>>> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany.
>>>
>>>> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>[email protected] – W.S.
>>>
>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>
>>> —————————————————————————
>>>
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>>
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>>
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>>
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>>
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>>
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>>
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>>
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew> could
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>>
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>>
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>>
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>>
>>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:42 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP wrote:
>
>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London’s History
>
>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>
>>>Revealed: The men accused in
>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>
>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters
>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was
>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank
>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at
>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>
>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has
>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest
>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>
>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38,
>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their
>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>
>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of
>>>what Mr Field described as ‘an extended family’ about
>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing
>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed
>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by
>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage
>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>
>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with
>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members
>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used
>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>
>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the
>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill,
>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation
>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>
>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter,
>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight
>>>to clear his name.
>
>>>’This investigation is without foundation and is a complete
>>>waste of taxpayers’ money,’ he insisted. ‘All of our finances
>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>
>>>’It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism.
>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent
>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to
>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>
>>>’When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a
>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed.
>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.’
>
>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached
>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: ‘He has no
>>>comment to make.’ Eichenstein lists his official home
>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home
>>>where his wife and children live.
>
>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm
>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of
>>>the men’s companies con-firmed that they had been contacted
>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing
>>>to examine their records.
>
>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a
>>>network of companies and properties associated
>>>with the family.
>
>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein
>>>are within a stone’s throw of each other on the Stamford
>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties
>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein’s home.
>
>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties
>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>
>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a
>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling
>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>
>>>Police activity is all but non-existent – patrol cars are
>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related
>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the
>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>
>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to
>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to
>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the
>>>end of this month.
>
>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids
>>>on four houses in April – is seen by Mr Field as the first
>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>
>>>Ministers have decided that they want to ‘name and shame’
>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a
>>>’revival of common decencies’.
>
>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised
>>>housing benefit rackets in London – an initiative which
>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>
>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting
>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious
>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of
>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and
>>>other cities in Britain.
>
>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime
>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>
>>>The Minister said: ‘We are going for the big boys, while
>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much
>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in
>>>Britain today.’
>
>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31
>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite
>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.

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Subject: Der ewige Jude [The Eternal Jew]

The Film of a 2000-Year Rat Migration

————————————————————————

The Eternal Jew is the first film that not only gives a full picture
of Jewry, but provides a broad treatment of the life and effects of
this parasitic race using genuine material taken from real life. It
also shows why healthy peoples in every age have responded to the Jews
with disgust and loathing, often enough expressing their feelings
though deeds.

Just like rats, the Jews 2000 years ago moved from the Middle East, to
Egypt, at that time a flourishing land. Even then they had all the
criminal traits they display today, even then they were the enemy of
hard-working, creative peoples. In large hordes they migrated from
there to the “Promised Land,” flooded the entire Mediterranean region,
broke into Spain, France and Southern Germany, then followed the
German colonists as they moved into the
countries of the East. Along they way they remained eternal parasites,
haggling and cheating, Poland above all became the enormous reservoir
>from which Jewry sent its agents to every leading nation of Europe and
the world.

The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples of this
new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they
reach their goal and control finance.

The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
desperate and horrible death struggle of the
slaughtered animals. Long before the seizure of power, the NSDAP
fought against Jewish slaughter. National Socialist representatives in
parliament repeatedly introduced legislation to abolish this form of
animal torture through a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were
always rejected, since the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press
ran long articles against them and the so-called German parties
refused to support National Socialism in its battle against this evil.

Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.

One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
struggle.

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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.