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On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 20:16:16 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 3 Jul 1998 09:31:36 -0700, “Vitaliy Tikhomirov”
> wrote:
>
>
>> When I served in the Soviet Army in 1976 in sergent
>>school in Baku a small part of cadets/coursants with komsomol length od
>>service were accepted into Communist Party. Among accepted a majority were
>>Jews and Ukranians. From those then candidats for school sergents were
>>ellected what meant a ‘warm little place’ in perspective. I don’t remeber
>>that Ukranians were against such order. They just complained that Jews as
>>always took too much places.
>
>>So, CPSU became a part of political economical mechanism were Jews,
>>Russians, Ukranians and others struggled for power. On other hand,
>>communists (of different ethnity) dominated Soviet life and opressed as
>>national as democratic development. All we want is just prosperity, dignity
>>and happiness.
>
>>I live in America three years and can’t say that Jews are my
>>freinds here, neither I can say that Ukranians are fair to Russia.
>
>
>
>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:
>
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>
>
>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”
>
>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>Moisei Uritsky.
>
>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon.
>
>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>were Jews.
>
>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it.”
>
>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>4, 1919)
>
>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:
>
>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.
>
>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.
>
>Regards,
>Roger Hughes
>
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From [email protected] Thu Oct 22 14:33:57 EDT 1998
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On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 03:07:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, [email protected] (tom moran) wrote:
>
>>
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>>>> —————————————————————————
>>>>
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>>
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>>
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>
>> Actually Riggs ‘study’ was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>>time. The reason it found it’s way into so many papers is because the
>>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>>Rigg’s study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>>was said he might write a book or something, but then don’t count on
>>it. It ain’t happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>>was in the newspapers.
>>
>> Intitially posted under “Super Jews in Hitler’s Army”.
>>
>> “The Jews in Hitler’s Military”
>>
>> L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>>
>>”A young American is
>>documenting the stories
>>of Hundreds of German
>>veterans of Jewish descent.
>>Many lost family to the
>>Holocaust while serving the
>>Nazi regime.”
>>
>>LONDON–“Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>>man’s land of Holocaust history.
>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent … who
>>served …during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>>Jews.
>> ‘Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>>Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the military but at the same time
>>exterminated their families.’
>> On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>>year old Texan … interviewed more than 300 of these veterans …
>>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>>Germany 4 times …
>> Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>>of Hilter’s soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>>men commanding up to 100,000, …”
>>
>>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>>story and why it would find it’s way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>>supremacy publication. ]
>>
>>”In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>>Knight’s Cross, Germany’s highest honor, he said.”
>>
>> “This fall, Rigg, Yale ’96, arrived at England Cambridge
>>University … lugging his clothes … documentation … Jonathan
>>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg’s files and hurried to find
>>a safe place for them.
>>
>>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
>>
>> Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>>were killed for being Jewish–and others who died fighting in battle
>>for Nazi Germany.”
>>
>>[ I would say if Rigg’s was confronted with a demand to stand
>>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>>pat.
>>
>>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>>aspect of Judaism. ]
>>
>>———————————————————————-
>> The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>>connection and the reason it found it’s way into the L.A.Times – to
>>hype Jewish supremacy.
>>———————————————————————-
>>
>>
>> “Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>>themselves as half Jewish, half German.”
>>
>>[ Here we have the term “half Jewish” being designated “Nazi
>>terminology” when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, ‘half
>>Black’, ‘half Irish’, etc.
>>
>>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>>even eighth Jewish. ]
>>
>> “One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>>high ranking officers ‘of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew’. Two
>>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>>colonels.”
>>
>>[ It doesn’t say how many were of “Jewish race” or how many were those
>>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>>
>> “‘I don’t think it ever occurred to go to a general’s personal
>>file to see if he was Jewish’, said Steinberg”.
>>
>>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>>
>>
>> “… Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>>commanders and fighters”.
>>
>>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn’t enough to draw from
>>the measly German genetic stock for “experienced” “commanders” and
>>”fighters”. ]
>>
>> “He (Rigg’s) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>>approved by Hitler–naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>>One German civilian of Jewish heritage …”
>>
>>[ “One ,,,” “German civilian” of “Jewish heritage”? ]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent …”
>>
>>[ More “officers” of Jewish “decent”. Another thing that is evident
>>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>>the list are “officers”. ]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “One Knight’s Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>>England …”
>>
>>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>>”Jewish father”. No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father”.]
>>
>> “Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>>derring-do rescue … Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch … whose father was Jewish.”
>>
>>[ The significance here of course is the “… derring-do … Jewish
>>father” connection.]
>>
>> ….
>>
>> “About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>>about 12,000 of them were killed.”
>>
>> [ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg’s
>>project. Here we have “100,000” Jews said to have served in the German
>>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>>
>> (The WWI) “…Veterans thought their service would protect them
>>against the Nazi crackdown … When the transports came … Some even
>>went to the gas chamber with their medals on.”
>>
>>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with “medals”. How
>>Rigg’s came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>>he says “some”. If he had said ‘one’ this is something we could accept
>>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the “some”, well too
>>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>>the source for Rigg’s blurt.
>>
>>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>>
>>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]]
>>
>> “Rigg’s quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>>Germany as Jews.”
>>
>>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>>Who knows. ]
>>
>> “Then one night in 1992, he went to see ‘Europa, Europa’, a film
>>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>>War II. After the movie, Rigg’s struck a conversation with an elderly
>>German Jew… and he listened until morning”
>>
>>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ]
>>
>> So far it seems Rigg’s has not written a book on the subject or
>>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>>with this latest bravado.
>>
>> On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about “Jewish”, “field
>>marshalls”, “generals” and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>>Goldhagen’s book, ‘Ordinary Germans, Hitler’s Willing Executioners”
>>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>>
>> It’s funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>>and all over each other.
>>
>> In another twist, this article and thus Rigg’s, seem to strive to
>>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>>hard at portraying as evil.
>>
>> Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>>
>> When looking at the picture of Rigg’s, I can see blind ambition,
>>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>>
>> If ever Rigg’s does publish a paper with documentation to support
>>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>>wonder about that. ]]

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On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:15:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Notice that supporters of the Christkillers can not answer the
>questions, or respond to points, so they try ad hominem attacks.
>
>History has shown that far too many of the murderers of Christ, and
>their followers, have been involved in one disaster after another, up
>to and including communism…
>
>
>On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:45:30 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Ivan Petrenko wrote:
>>
>>> ATTENTION SUSAN COHEN:
>>>
>>> OK, so I am now reading so many of your posts that I think to myself-
>>
>>And you shoud’ve kept to yourself whatever you were thinking. Mark Twain had
>>a good advice to the trolls like yourself: “It is better to keep quiet and
>>look intelligent then open your mouth and remove all doubts.” 🙂
>>
>>> etah zhenzchinah/this woman has incredible amount hate and anger, enough
>>> hate in her to start war.
>>
>>Another well known tactic, the lame hatemongers like you are so fond of:
>>”Substitute the lack of arguments with the character assassination”
>>
>>> If you don’t relax and lighten up little bit, Susan Cohen, I afraid you
>>> get high blood pressure. Really I think real problem is you can’t find
>>> man.
>>
>>Lame, lame…
>>
>>> Mozhet bit, maybe you is old maid woman who is very angry at whole
>>> world. You need consult with our wise advisor on this site- his name is
>>> Panikovsky. You look for his name on posts and read his website. He
>>> has help for women like you Susan.
>>
>>Did you use his help as well? 🙂
>>
>>> Who has time to write so many posts like you Susan? Also on this day,
>>> which is big day for Jews holiday – the Passover. But you home alone
>>> writing hate mail. What sad life you have. But Panikovsky can help you.
>>> There is hope for you to become happy nice woman someday. Then we
>>> all not think of you as arrogant bitch.
>>
>>> I. Petrenko
>>
>>Crawl back into your hole, loser
>
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:56:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 23 Jun 1998 00:27:52 GMT, [email protected] (Daniel Swan)
>wrote:
>
>>steve mock ([email protected]) wrote:
>>
>>: What you constantly fail to grasp, Tavish, is that no one is denying that there were people of Jewish ancestry among
>>: the Bolsheviks, or even that there weren’t quite a few people of Jewish ancestry among the Bolsheviks. What you
>>: completely and utterly fail to understand is how collossal the leap of logic is which you ask us to make from that fact
>>: to the conclusion that Bolshevism is some kind of a Jewish plot for which Jews bear collective responsibility.
>>
>>Logical leap or not, this raises an interesting question: How
>>can the overproportionate Jewish representation among the
>>Bolsheviks be accounted for?
>
>
>Perhaps the following text may help answer your rhetorical question…
>
>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
>”Russian
>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
>Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
>will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:
>
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet
>government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government
>in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>type.”
>
>
>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were
>384
>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
>to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”
>
>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>and
>Moisei Uritsky.
>
>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>
>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
>that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
>these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
>in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
>northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon.
>
>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
>agitators
>were Jews.
>
>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it.”
>
>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>April,
>4, 1919)
>
>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin,
>Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:
>
>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>death
>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.
>
>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80
>percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.
>
>Regards,
>Roger Hughes
>
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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:24:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, [email protected]
>(Gunther Schiller) wrote:
>
>>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>[ … ]
>>
>>From: [email protected] (BillBrtn)
>>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>>References: <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: An observation
>>
>>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Gunther, Mr. Schiller, Droogie, Jerry, A White, etc etc…
>>
>>>>. I am actually a Jew named Saul Rabinowicz
>>>>and I run Champions Bagelry in Rosenberg, Texas.
>>
>>>Checked the phone book. No such person, place. Therefore, for starters,
>>>you are a liar.
>>
>>Look at the above Bill! Who’s the liar? You don’t know me too well to
>>not know when I am speaking tongue in cheek to a person such as you!
>>So now you are stalking me too? Shame on you naughty anti-Arab bigot.
>>
>>>> You don’t have to
>>>>be a Gentile to dislike the majority of Jews
>>
>>>You don’t know the majority of Jews. In fact you may not know any.
>>
>>I know the ones on USENET and most of them I wouldn’t fart in their
>>face if they were in need of artificial respiration.
>>
>>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>>reach.
>>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler’s inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>>
>>Wanna bet o’ clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>>
>>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>
>>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>>
>>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>deportations.”]
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>>Or how about this?
>>
>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>>
>>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>> ———————————-
>>
>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>
>>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>
>>by Reuters
>>
>>BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>See also:
>>
>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>
>>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>served in Nazi army
>>
>>by William D. Montalbano
>>Los Angeles Times
>>
>>LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>of Holocaust history.
>>
>>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>”Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>whole story.]
>>
>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>> ———————————-
>>
>>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>>
>>>You tell me.
>>
>>No, they did not!
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>>
>>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>
>>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>>
>>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>>
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>>
>>>
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government.”
>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>>
>>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>>
>>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon.
>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews.
>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>
>>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>>
>>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919)
>>>
>>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>
>>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>
>>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> http://www.natall.com
>>>> http://www.natvan.com
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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:45:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue]
>>
>> “The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth — An
>>Insider’s Expose”
>>
>>-or-
>>
>>”The Secret Section in Israel’s U.S. Lobby That Stifles American
>>Debate”
>>
>> by Gregory D. Slabodkin
>>
>>
>>During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in
>>the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were
>>ruined by false charges of “communism” and “treason,” American Jewry
>>was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail
>>by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the
>>percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy’s smear tactics was twice
>>that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed
>>resolutions condemning McCarthy’s ruthless character assassination.
>>
>>Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the
>>Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith (ADL) and the American Israel
>>Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle
>>open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
>>
>>
>>Secretly Circulated Lists
>>
>>
>> To Conduct this “neo-McCarthyism,” AIPAC operates a covert section
>>within its research department that monitors and keeps files on
>>politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish
>>liberals, and others it labels “anti-Israel.” AIPAC selects
>>information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the
>>”guilty,” together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed
>>by their statements, often totally out of context.
>>
>>Just as McCarthy’s permanent investigations subcommittee labeled
>>criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as “anti-
>>American” or “pro-Soviet,” AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli
>>government policies “anti-Israel,” “pro-Arab” or “pro-PLO.” Still
>>worse is the pro-Israel lobby’s redefinition of “anti-Semitism” to
>>include any such criticism of Israel or its actions.
>>
>> To date, revelations about AIPAC’s blacklisting and smear tactics
>>have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby’s secret
>>activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling
>>book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront
>>Israel’s Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby’s impact
>>on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as
>>academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within
>>AIPAC’s stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only
>>surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic
>>fact that no longer should be ignored.
>>
>> AIPAC’s “opposition research” department traces its roots to I.L.
>>(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC’s weekly
>>_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly
>>titled column, “The Monitor.” Besides monitoring, analyzing, and
>>responding to “anti-Israel” comment and activities in the United
>>States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC’s “enemies.” In his final year
>>AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations.
>>
>> Kenen’s memoirs, _Israel’s Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in
>>Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the
>>American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to
>>create a “truth squad.” Its purpose was to combat “pro-Arab
>>propaganda” and the emerging “Arab lobby,” which Kenen believed to be
>>a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship.
>>
>> “While vigorously defending Israel’s perceived interests, the
>>organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of
>>Jewish thought police,” journalist Robert I. Friedman explains.
>>”Investigators — sometimes overzealous Jewish college students,
>>sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies — were
>>used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they
>>might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists,
>>politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and
>>writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other
>>professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of
>>anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The
>>intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish
>>community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind
>>would weaken the Jewish state.”
>>
>> When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December
>>1974, the task of monitoring Israel’s “enemies” was left to the
>>department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained
>>ever since.
>>
>>
>> Monitoring Israel’s “Enemies”
>>
>>
>>Morris Amitay, Kenen’s successor as AIPAC executive director, did not
>>follow Kenen’s practice of countering “pro-Arab propaganda” with
>>polished editorials in the _Near East Report_. Amitay was more
>>concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying
>>organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically
>>during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of
>>intelligence gathering.
>>
>>Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small,
>>dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira.
>>”Breira,” the Hebrew word for “alternative,” was organized by a tiny
>>group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from
>>the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s.
>>
>>Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the
>>subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question
>>Israel’s policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day
>>War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy
>>in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace
>>Now movement in Israel.
>>
>>However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S.
>>the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead
>>AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by
>>discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were
>>motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as “anti-
>>Israel,” “pro-PLO,” and “self-hating Jews.”
>>
>>Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC’s _Near East Report_,
>>charged that Breira “undermined U.S. support for Israel.” Only one
>>prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander
>>Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations,
>>who called the attack on Breira a “witch hunt.” He was ignored,
>>however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set
>>the “rules” for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as
>>who would be the “enforcer” of these “rules.”
>>
>>As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political
>>Power and American Foreign Policy_: “By attacking Breira, Jewish
>>leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel’s most
>>loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli
>>policies, among Jews as well as gentiles.”
>>
>>In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual “Who’s
>>Who” of “anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing
>>important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with
>>them in the political arena.” AIPAC photocopied these “enemies lists”
>>to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on
>>”anti-Israel” forces.
>>
>>
>>AIPAC’s “War for Washington”
>>
>>
>>Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy,
>>who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded
>>AIPAC’s opposition research. This was part of Dine’s “War for
>>Washington,” inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of
>>”anti-Israel” organizations in the nation’s capital. AIPAC was
>>particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning
>>to organize.
>>
>>In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee
>>to monitor Israel’s “enemies.” Goott was recruited from the
>>Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, where she had similar duties.
>>In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC
>>members to send useful information to her in Washington.
>>
>>In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_,
>>coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook’s preface, its
>>purpose was to update the activities of “anti-Israel” organizations
>>and individuals, and to provide a “more complete and convenient
>>analysis of this activity” to “meet the needs of AIPAC members.” Yet,
>>despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective
>>descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than
>>a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics
>>of all kinds as “enemies” of Israel. The final chapter, “A Directory
>>of the Actors,” profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be
>>monitored and discredited whenever possible.
>>
>>At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit
>>
>>Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith published its own
>>document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and
>>Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott’s
>>employment by both organizations during the period both publications
>>were in preparation.
>>
>>”The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals
>>listed in the B’nai B’rith and AIPAC books is that they are
>>’pro-Palestinian’ or ‘pro-PLO,'” Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book,
>>_Israel and the American National Interest_. “Pro-Israeli groups have
>>succeeded in associating the words ‘Palestinian’ and ‘PLO’ with
>>terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent
>>of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label
>>’pro-PLO.'”
>>
>>The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S.
>>Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony
>>Lewis criticized AIPAC’s tactics, particularly the inclusion in its
>>”enemies list” of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in
>>Boston, as does Lewis.
>>
>>Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In
>>
>>its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his
>>articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of
>>Israel.
>>
>>”Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion” of
>>Khalidi’s views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel’s lobby should
>>welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to “smear” it.
>>
>>In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the
>>largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States,
>>unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both
>>national Jewish organizations to “disavow and refrain from such
>>activities” as soliciting “unbalanced information on students, faculty
>>and other parties at American campuses” and “listing factually
>>inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific
>>students, teachers and researchers as ‘pro-Arab propagandists,’ who
>>’use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt
>>anti-Semitism.'”
>>
>>When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit
>>Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions
>>annually.
>>
>>However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first
>>edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of
>>”anti-Israel” activities, but disseminated the results secretly.
>>
>>
>> Going Underground
>>
>>
>>AIPAC’s decision to take its opposition research underground coincided
>>
>>with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb.
>>Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the
>>Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely
>>associated with the pro-Israel lobby.
>>
>>He is the son of Princeton University “orientalist” Bernard Lewis,
>>whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating
>>Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people.
>>
>>Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC’s stealth section,
>>innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a “clearing-house”
>>for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide
>>a “resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else.” He has
>>provided negative information both to rival politicians and to
>>journalists about prominent individuals whom
>>
>>
>>AIPAC considers to be “anti-Israel.”
>>
>>
>>In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a
>>racist brochure mailed to voters in California’s 44th congressional
>>district by candidate Randy “Duke” Cunningham’s campaign in the spring
>>of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph
>>Ghougassian, Cunningham’s Republican primary election opponent, of
>>being “bank-rolled by Arab oil interests.” The brochure, featuring a
>>photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi,
>>asked: “We don’t need a congressman bought and paid for by these
>>special interests. Do we?”
>>
>>What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that
>>Cunningham’s campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic
>>sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and
>>included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA).
>>Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen,
>>lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC’s support,
>>went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress.
>>
>>Lewis reports that AIPAC also “provided Steve Emerson with information
>>
>>on Alexander Cockburn.” That followed a heated exchange between
>>Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the
>>
>>editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson
>>attacked Cockburn for his “financial agenda.”
>>
>>”It ought to be remembered,” Emerson wrote, “that several years ago
>>Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been
>>funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank
>>known as the PLO’s bank.”
>>
>>Emerson’s charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly
>>alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984. _The
>>Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from
>>the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the
>>Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them,
>>editors of the _Village Voice_ “indefinitely suspended” him due to
>>”appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure.”
>>
>>Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story
>>
>>as well as Emerson’s attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_.
>>Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in
>>1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was
>>”linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against
>>Israel.” In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed
>>individual contributors within the United States until it closed down
>>in 1983 due to a lack of funds.
>>
>>Deploring the AIPAC-generated “misinformation,” editor David
>>Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: “What
>>Cockburn did not do was take money from an ‘Arab propaganda group.’
>>Moreover he was not ‘bought’–he clearly received the grant because of
>>views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that
>>the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports
>>to be. And despite the reporter’s clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does
>>not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist.
>>His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and
>>the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested
>>parties, is poor journalism.”
>>
>>Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated
>>pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In
>>a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: “Among
>>all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly
>>innocuous… On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs
>>should enjoy freedom of speech.”
>>
>> _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn’s monthly column
>>opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in
>>cheek, “We hired him because of his biases, which we’re sure are
>>totally incorruptible.”
>>
>>In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of
>>Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to
>>Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim’s
>>reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage
>>a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted.
>>
>>Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to
>>which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge
>>that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money.
>>Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of “Arab money”
>>and “petro-dollars,” yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar
>>innuendo regarding Jewish financing.
>>
>>In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze
>>the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith
>>Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: “For the most part,
>>Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid
>>being pinned down as ‘anti-Israel.’ She often achieves her goals by
>>presenting the views of ‘moderate Israelis’ to state her case.”
>>
>>In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David
>>Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper’s views in its March 25, 1991
>>issue:
>>
>>”Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the
>>politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of
>>Judith Kipper. It’s not that she’s anti-Israel — her criticism would
>>put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party — or that
>>she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering
>>quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue.”
>>
>>There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC’s
>>strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior
>>AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of
>>their covert activities. The name change from “Opposition Research” to
>>”Policy Analysis” was designed to conceal AIPAC’s surveillance,
>>monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990
>>internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues
>>director, Lewis boasted:
>>
>>”There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working
>>behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that
>>impact is not always traceable to us.”
>>
>>As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has
>>created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing
>>organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them.
>>This AIPAC creation is “Paul Hunt” of “Paul Hunt & Associates.” AIPAC
>>rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt’s mail, and has
>>installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office.
>>”Paul Hunt” has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report
>>on Middle East Affairs_.
>>
>>Secret _Activities_
>>
>>Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production
>>and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which
>>disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of
>>Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible
>>product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to
>>hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the
>>controversy that arose over its blacklisting of “enemies” in its 1983
>>publication of _The Campaign to
>>
>>
>>Discredit Israel_.
>>
>>
>> _Activities_’ select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged
>>to use the material as they see fit, “subject only to the provision
>>that AIPAC not be attributed as its source.” _Activities_ is
>>distributed to AIPAC’s Washington and regional staff, its officers,
>>the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and
>>Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists
>>and academics.
>>
>>It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other
>>Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not
>>permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention
>>the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC’s walls. A disquieting
>>breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the
>>American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that
>>organization’s president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having
>>received an AIPAC study entitled
>>
>>
>>_Activities_.
>>
>>
>>Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to
>>Dine: “_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will
>>probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is
>>nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it
>>is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just
>>accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of
>>these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of
>>_Activities_.”
>>
>>Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National
>>Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish
>>Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for
>>Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish
>>Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security
>>Affairs (JINSA).
>>
>>According to Lewis: “Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major
>>
>>Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures
>>that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces
>>both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are
>>focusing.
>>
>>Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC,
>>_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to
>>good advantage.”
>>
>>One of the ways that this information was “used to good advantage” was
>>
>>in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused
>>Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of “the
>>new anti-Semitism” (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him
>>with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis
>>Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action
>>committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations
>>attributed to Zogby.
>>
>>When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name
>>
>>appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the
>>mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording.
>>_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990,
>>column, “There’s no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish
>>Congress’ letter writers went off half-cocked — and without Siegman’s
>>knowledge. “It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC’s
>>fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC’s _Activities_,
>>from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken.
>>
>>Nor, after publication of Cohen’s article, was it some unnamed “letter
>>
>>writer” but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC’s Michael Lewis
>>for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an
>>”anti-Semite.” Lewis faxed an AIPAC “living memo” of Zogby’s
>>statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York.
>>
>>”I hope this information is of help,” Lewis wrote on the cover sheet.
>>
>>”The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the
>>information should not be attributed to AIPAC.”
>>
>>Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued
>>that the AJC letter had “resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy.”
>>Hentoff also quoted Zogby’s reaction to his own personal ordeal with
>>neo-McCarthyism:
>>
>>”When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a
>>’terrorist member of the PLO’ speaking engagements were canceled,
>>political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I
>>were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and
>>AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence — but
>>vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can
>>create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur.”
>>
>>Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his “overzealous
>>fund-raisers.”
>>
>>
>> Disingenuous Disclaiming
>>
>>
>>AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken
>>against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact,
>>it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous
>>disclaimer that “the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies
>>neither endorsement nor criticism of any group.” By distributing
>>derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in
>>effect tells pro-Israel activists, “Here are the people who are your
>>enemies — now go out and do something about it!”
>>
>>AIPAC’s Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison
>>department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When
>>AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an “anti-Israel”
>>personality, summaries of that person’s standard arguments,
>>question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations
>>are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are
>>asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC
>>also draws up questions for “plants” in the audience, and suggests
>>other strategies suited to the particular venue.
>>
>>Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in
>>1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional
>>director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th “Conference
>>on Peace With Justice in the Middle East” at Mira Costa College,
>>arrangements were made to “monitor the conference…have a corps of
>>’our’ people in the audience, well-trained and briefed…call a
>>meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to
>>develop a coordinated strategy…(and provide) background material” on
>>the speakers.
>>
>>Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at
>>Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled
>>on him: “It’s just like an FBI file — 150 pages of material, clips
>>from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up
>>at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given,
>>characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All
>>this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk
>>somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who
>>will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I
>>allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized
>>in unsigned pamphlets.”
>>
>>Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally
>>hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that
>>AIPAC deems to be “anti-Israel.” Among politicians upon whom such
>>files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff
>>John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense
>>Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter
>>and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate
>>Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House
>>Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John
>>Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe
>>Rahall, James Traficant and many others.
>>
>> The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of
>>District of Columbia “Shadow Senator” Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC’s
>>surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual’s
>>professional statements and activities, in Jackson’s case, AIPAC was
>>caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS’ “60
>>Minutes,” an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed
>>generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital
>>affairs.
>>
>>AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as “anti-Israel”
>>journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC
>>maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan,
>>Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis,
>>Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among
>>others.
>>
>>Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy’s scouring of Hollywood for
>>”communists,” and their “fellow travelers” in the entertainment
>>industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen,
>>Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra
>>Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more.
>>
>>
>>”Have You No Shame?”
>>
>>
>> In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised
>>Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch
>>stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, “Sir, have you no shame?” Only
>>after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as
>>intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out,
>>did the shadow of “McCarthyism” slowly recede from American public
>>life.
>>
>>Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question
>>of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community
>>relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the
>>hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel
>>Fund (NIF).
>>
>>This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the
>>National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC)
>>condemning the “McCarthy-like” tactics used by some Jewish
>>organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with
>>”the right of dissent” on Israeli policies, and emphasized the
>>importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of “mutual
>>tolerance and civility.” However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe
>>groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism
>>within more mainstream Jewish organizations.
>>
>>AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American
>>Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the
>>climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American
>>Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its
>>blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the “enemies of Israel.”
>>
>>Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and
>>racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle
>>East.
>>
>>And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute
>>toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
>>
>>[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an
>>opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
>>(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.]
>>
>>Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or
>>write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009
>>
>> NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The
>>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_. Ask for one! * END
>>
>>
>>
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>Traffickers’ New Cargo:
>Naive Slavic Women
>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>
>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>tops of tables.
>
>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>eyes.
>
>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>you and bring you back.”
>
>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>the robust global economy.
>
>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>
>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>into Western Europe alone.
>
>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>
>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>really happen at all.”
>
>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>
>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>
>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>countries and, usually, false documents.
>
>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>wages they could never imagine at home.
>
>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>
>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>are ubiquitous.
>
>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>
>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>
>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>the violence that awaits them.
>
>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>captors.
>
>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>
>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>
>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>average price of just under $1,000.
>
>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
>time.”
>
>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>very light.”
>
>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>against the sale of human beings.
>
>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>
>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>
>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>
>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>cell phone.
>
>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>Soviet Union.
>
>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>
>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>is all we need.”
>
>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>routine part of her job.
>
>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>
>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>
>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>
>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>become a matter of survival.
>
>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>
>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>find to save themselves.
>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>are go to men. So they leave.”
>
>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>
>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>
>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>
>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>arrested.”
>
>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>
>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>
>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>employed illegally there now.
>
>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>
>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>
>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>which had enslaved them.”
>
>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>
>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>
>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>now.”
>
>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>
>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>
>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>factory for no wages?”
>
>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>
>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>I could ever get at home.”
>
>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>
>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>
>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>
>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>
>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>
>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>
>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>ready to do anything for money.”
>
>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>
>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>laughed heartily.
>
>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>
>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>
>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>documents are taken to prison.
>
>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>
>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>did nothing to hide their identities.
>
>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>protection program.
>
>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>
>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>
>
>
>

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:30:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:44:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:
>
>>dddddddddd
>>below, Hermie’s cyberthrash
>>————-
>>md
>>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>
>>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>>> > ============
>>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>> > occupation of Poland. The only reason for this question at this time
>>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provacatively, Dr.
>>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>> > after the war? Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>> >
>>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitted
>>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem. However,
>>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>> > presently in Lithuania.
>>> >
>>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>> > occupation was dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>>> > They were ususally not armed,
>>>
>>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>>>
>>> > and when armed never given more than five
>>> > bullets for their long rifles. Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>> > the genocide.
>>>
>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>>>
>>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>> > service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>> > post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>> >
>>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>> > of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > closed.
>>>
>>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> longer or die now!
>>>
>>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!
>>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> >
>>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>> > Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> >
>>> > ————-
>>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki. We found
>>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>> > dozens of other places. Why you shrink from searching for your
>>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>> >
>>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>>> other people.
>>>
>>> Herman
>>> > ————
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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>> Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:19:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:06:54 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>>
>>>> dddddddddddddd
>>>>
>>>> Grigori, if you do not know or do not believe me, please read the
>>>> monograph about Lazar Kaganowich by his American cousin titled The Wolf
>>>> of the Kremlin. Stven eventually was given permission by Brezhnev to
>>>> visit his uncle in Moscow. Look in Stevens book at the photo of his
>>>> aunt Rosa and unkle Mikhail Kaganovich who was shot with the blessing of
>>>> Lazar and Rosa for treason which was sympathy for Israel.
>>>>
>>>> Mikhail learned zionsim on his trip in USA during WW II and he was
>>>> commissar of Soviet aviation.
>>>>
>>>> Pawlikowski deserves from you apology, but I doubut he will get it.
>>>>
>>>> Some Jews are simply michigene
>>>> ———
>>>> RAgan
>>>>
>>>> Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > PAWLIKOWSKI ([email protected]) wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > : Klan of Kaganoviches, Soviet Jews who ran USSR at that time (Rosa
>>>> > : Kaganowich, M.D. being at that time Stalins wife) felt scorned by
>>>> > : Israel. Hell know no furry as the woman scorned!
>>>> >
>>>> > What interesting here, that all it is lie, but the name of Lazar
>>>> > Kaganovich.
>>>> >
>>>> > #1. Kaganovich had no “clan”, especially one who was running USSR.
>>>> >
>>>> > Better you, patologycal judofob, invent something new, remotely close to
>>>> > reality, like “Georgian Djugashvili when studied in christian seminary was
>>>> > forcefullyu converted to Judaizm and than under name Stalin
>>>> > successfully tried to kill all polish christians worldwide”.
>>>> >
>>>> > #2. STalin never had a wife with the name “Rosa”, not talking about Rosa
>>>> > Kaganovich, M.D. because:
>>>> >
>>>> > #3. Lazar Kaganovich NEVER have a sister Rosa Kaganovich.
>>>> >
>>>> > That lies you are repeating was put in circulation with Russian
>>>> > antisemitic blacj hundred organization “Pamiat” in the end of 80th and
>>>> > was exposed countless times as an open lie in Russian periodicals.
>>>> >
>>>> > #4. Affiliation of patologycal commie Kaganovich and Israel came from the
>>>> > same garbage dumpster.
>>>> >
>>>> > #5. Stalin with the help of his henchmen Beria at the time was preparing
>>>> > the wholesale deportation Jews to death camps in Siberia, and started to
>>>> > unfold so-called “Case of Jewish doctors”, implicating all Jewish M.D. who
>>>> > worked in Kremlin hospital killing of communist party leaders admitted to
>>>> > hospital. It had to become a spark to deportation. Thanx G-d the bastard
>>>> > died himself on Purim night and deportation was aborted.
>>>> >
>>>> > Does it look, like that scenario was running by a jews? Dear
>>>> > Padlikowsky? Maybe unexisted M.D. Kaganovich tried to get rid of worldwide
>>>> > known M.D. in Moscow?
>>>> >
>>>> > You are laughable, moron.
>>>> >
>>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>>> >
>>>> > G.K.
>>>> >
>>>> > : USSR hoped to control Arab oilpipes then going through Israel.
>>>> >
>>>> > Pipelines THROUGH Israel? Pumping oil there in 1940th? Time to call Mr.
>>>> > Padlikowsky a veterinarian, and teacher in geography.
>>>> >
>>>> > : USSR staged Kielce and other pogroms to stock Palestine with Soviet
>>>> > : Jews but these indoctrinated Jews did not bother with USSR once in
>>>> > : Israel.
>>>> >
>>>> > No, no. Glory of Kielce is a badge of honor on your antisemitic mighty
>>>> > chest.
>>>> >
>>>> > But what pogrom in Kielce has in common with stocking of Palestine with
>>>> > SOVIET jews? Especially when all info about Kielce was immediately
>>>> > SUPPRESSED for ten’s of years?
>>>> >
>>>> > Why it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get from Russia to Israel all that years??
>>>> > And it was a multitude of jews who was refused an exit visas and instead
>>>> > of Near East were sent to Far North?
>>>> >
>>>> > : Elementary HErmie HH
>>>> > : ———
>>>> > : Pawlikowski
>>>> >
>>>> > Unfortunately, that tipe of lies almost never elementary. despite such a
>>>> > lies have been produced by thou who have one convolution in the brain, and
>>>> > even this one was straiten by Waffen SS side-cap. Unfortunately a rebuke
>>>> > required and time had been waisted for such an imbecile.
>>>> >
>>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>>> >
>>>> > G.K.
>>>
>>>
>>>It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>>who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>>- it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>>
>>>It was the secret police that engaged in genocide – first on the
>>>Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>>Kommissars!!!
>>>
>>>How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER – that it was
>>>the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?

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On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, “firefly”
wrote:

>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON POLAND LAND >POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT INSIDE
>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR < IT IS NOT AOUR >AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2 wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz.
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups.
>
>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,” she added.
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.
>
>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site.
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex.
>
>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar.
>
>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.
>
>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated.
>>
>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”
>>
>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, “But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently.
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign.
>
>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”
>
>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda.
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,” wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.
>
>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.
>
>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.

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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> “Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.”
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>> Top Jewish Communists
>
>>> Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar’s family–women and children–in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov’s order for the murder of the Czar’s
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar’s daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>> Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>> the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> “Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts.”
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin’s mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea–Baltic Canal.
>
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
>
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov (“Yankel”) Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> “insurance policy” extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein’s Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
>
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> ‘Holocaust’ Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin’s top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier’s wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin’s chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin’s enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin’s chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun’s eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews “…played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime’s top five leaders were Jews. ”
>
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People’s Army. Tito’s top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People’s
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, “In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security…the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews.” Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like : (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>> Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
>
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>
>>> In Poland, “…a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party…Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism.” (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
>
>>> “The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country–Berman and Minc–were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski.”
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>> Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin’s ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>
>>> Mark Zborowski: “…considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome…(Soviet) spy of all time” (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. “The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne” by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
>
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, “one of its foremost intellectuals”( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC’s terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. (“Joe Slovo,” Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>
>>> Slovo had been the ” planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others… Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday…Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed…Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as ‘the Communist mastermind’ behind the ANC’s
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa’s whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC’s growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. ‘Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,’ Slovo said.” (“Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid,” L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela’s ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>
>>> “…The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>> whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>> country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>> world-wide social revolution.”
>
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>
>>> “Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>> Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>> with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>> is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS.”
>
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>
>>> “The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>> brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>> is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order – sound
>>> familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>> thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>> and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>> mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”
>
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>
>>> “Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>> half-converted believers dream to vanquish the “Truthful” and the
>>> faithful of their own creed … who had gathered around the Red
>>> Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>> guidance of those experienced officers of all latter – day
>>> revolutions – the Jews?”
>
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
>
>>> “If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>> Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed”
>
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>
>>> “…there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>> that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>> Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>> Judaism.”
>
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>> “The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>> fundamentals of Judaism.”
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>
>>> “Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>> which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>> propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>> fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>> dominated by them from the beginning …. There is no moral,
>>> philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>> Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>> to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>> originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>> Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>> his “keen dialectical ability” (as presumably manifested by his
>>> abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>> inheritance …. Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>> merely “streamlined” talmudism for Gentile consumption…”
>
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>
>>> “We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God’s
>>> Chosen People – what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>> world’s seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>> executioners.”
>
>>> Bernard Lazare, in his “L’Anti-semitisme” p.350 wrote:
>
>>> “The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>> destroys … faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>> idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>> he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>> religion of (Jesus) Christ.”
>
>>> “There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.”
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920 the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>
>>> “In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> “The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>
>>> “…The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated…Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people.”
>
>>> “It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement.”
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
>
>>> “The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him.”
>>> (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
>
>>> Lenin declared, “We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class.” His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: “The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class.” Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: “The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere.”
>
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
>
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: “Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie–more blood! As much as possible!”
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
>
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> “By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule… Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children…”
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
>
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> “Cold Reminder,” N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> “Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon–one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy…Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded.”
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam’s Curse, p. 228)
>
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>>> “National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

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On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 14:13:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>In view of the extortion of gullible government, for billions of
>dollars by the cursed JEWS, the Christkillers of history, one MUST
>question all aspects of the claims made by JEWS.
>
>In this regard, the questions below deserve detailed study, until the
>truth is known.
>Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide for
>themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>
>
>
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, [email protected] (Eugene
>> Holman) wrote:
>> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims
>> >made here.
>
>
>
>> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>
>> > None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>> >individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No
>> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing
>> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no
>> >records, no demographic statistics.
>
>> > On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
>> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>> extort money from gullible governments!!!
>
>> > 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>> >WORLD WAR TWO?
>
>> > Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German
>> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of
>> >their race or national origin alone.
>
>> > 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>
>> > Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist
>> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were
>> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media
>> >positions.
>
>> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger
>> >of internment once the war broke out.
>
>> > On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply
>> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential
>> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The
>> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in
>> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of
>> >German “death camps” were in fact circulated even before the outbreak
>> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people
>> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
>
>> > 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>
>> > Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>
>> > 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS
>> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT
>> >WAS?
>
>> > Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official
>> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in
>> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied
>> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too
>> >easy and unrestricted.
>
>> > En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning
>> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>
>> > 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF
>> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED
>> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
>
>> > No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz
>> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions;
>> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight.
>> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers
>> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls
>> >of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit
>> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>
>> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>> 1949, long after the war???
>
>> > 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE
>> >PURPOSE?
>
>> > It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in
>> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>
>> > 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>
>> > Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of
>> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses,
>> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing,
>> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz.
>> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>> >commonly used and available today.
>
>> > 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>
>> > Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>> >Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>> >cross examined.
>
>> > 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA
>> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
>
>> > About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>> >only are employed.
>
>> > 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>
>> > It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened
>> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered
>> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>
>> > 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>
>> > Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the
>> >six million figure as well.
>
>> > 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT
>> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE
>> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND
>> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
>
>> > Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a
>> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any
>> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was
>> >occurring.
>
>> > 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>> >DURING THE WAR?
>
>> > About 300,000.
>
>> > 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>
>> > Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably
>> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods
>> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes.
>> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant
>> >purposes, more Jews might have survived the concentration camps.
>> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation
>> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war
>> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill
>> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>
>> > 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR
>> >300,000 DIED?
>
>> > 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>
>> > 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD
>> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>
>> > A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>
>> > 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>
>> > No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed
>> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated
>> >in open pits.
>> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely
>> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in
>> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim
>> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without
>> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>> > 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A
>> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>
>> > About two hours.
>
>> > 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>
>> > To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead
>> >from typhus and other diseases.
>
>> > 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN
>> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE
>> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO
>> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>
>> > About 430,600.
>
>> > 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>
>> > No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>> >when in heavy operation.
>
>> > 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>> >CORPSE?
>
>> > After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>
>> > 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>
>> > That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have
>> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz
>> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
>
>> > 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE
>> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>
>> > No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the
>> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the
>> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open
>> >pits where the bodies were burned.
>
>> > 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
>> >THE WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>
>> > A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second
>> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or
>> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>
>> > Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of
>> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”.
>> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated
>> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles
>> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>
>> > 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>
>> > Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from
>> >the published text.
>>
>> > In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the
>> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book.
>> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case
>> >sealed for 100 years.
>> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were
>> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN,
>> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original
>> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away
>> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for
>> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view
>> >it.
>
>> > 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED
>> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>
>> > Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>> >man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>
>> > (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>> >be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of
>> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme
>> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain
>> >away Stalin’s butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes
>> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist
>> >political and social orientation of
>> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind
>> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken
>> >McVay’s refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General
>> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the
>> >mass murders of Stalin.)
>
>> > 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>
>> > Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would
>> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such
>> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>
>> > 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>
>> > None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come
>> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering
>> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis
>> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were
>> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied
>> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them
>> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
>
>> > 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>> >DURING THE WAR?
>
>> > Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that
>> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered
>> >in order to silence him.
>
>
>> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the
>> roles of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance
>> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public
>> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news,
>> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>
>
>
>> > 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED
>> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>
>> > Slightly less than four million.
>
>> > 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE
>> >THE NAZIS?
>
>> > Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>> >kill them.
>
>> > 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
>
>> > After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about
>> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
>
>> > 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>> >TODAY?
>
>> > It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>> >sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>> >billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>
>> > 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>> >WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>
>> > Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors,
>> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals
>> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where
>> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and
>> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
>
>> > Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example,
>> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in
>> >Spielberg’s production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the
>> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost
>> >saintly, and yet none of those still living who remember
>> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler
>> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler
>> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young
>> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and
>> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with
>> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>
>> > 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE
>> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> > Over 100, with more in the works.
>
>> > 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>
>> > Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>
>> > 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> > A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>> >from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>
>> > The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those
>> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the
>> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>
>> > Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>> >Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an
>> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of
>> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted
>> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling
>> >attempts to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.
>
>> > An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder
>> >has been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists
>> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure
>> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs
>> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats
>> >from Jews and Marxists.
>
>> > THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent
>> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by
>> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers.
>> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the
>> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the
>> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people
>> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults
>> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the
>> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have
>> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of
>> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind,
>> >steal another people’s country, and then to slaughter that country’s
>> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio
>> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>
>> > 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>> >REVISIONISTS?
>
>> > No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than
>> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the
>> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded
>> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust
>> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
>> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at
>> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>
>> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>> >[email protected] – W.S.
>
>
>
>One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible governments
>by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.
>
>
>
>If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the attached
>article documents, why give them any money??
>
>———- Forwarded message ———-
> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
> From: stefan lemieszewski
> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>
> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>
> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
> Stefan Lemieszewski
>
> —————————————————————————
>
> North Shore News
> February 2, 1997
>
> Insights from abroad
> Doug Collins
>
> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
> that is ignored in Canada.
>
> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>
> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>
> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>
> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
> generals, and 23 colonels.
>
> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
> more. The research is continuing.
>
> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
> alive.
>
> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>
> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>
> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>
> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
> documents in the process.
>
> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew> could
> ever have fought for Hitler.
>
> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>
> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>
> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>
> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>
> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
> was a Jew.
>
> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>
> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>
> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>
> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>
> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>
> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
> plotting against Hitler.
>
> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>
> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
> wonder why?
>
> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:01:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>What is your problem, that you can not intelligently respond to the
>article??
>
>The mantra of the Jews is to wail and moan about “antisemitism”. (And
>their moaning does indeed have the intensity of religious fervour).
>According to the Jews, generations of demonic Christians practiced
>racial/religious discrimination against the Jews. The Jews claim that
>Christian mothers for generations have nurtured their young with
>antisemitism as naturally as they nurture them with milk.
>
>The phenomenon of “antisemitism” deserves critical study. Of course,
>the very word antisemitism is itself a misnomer, a characteristic
>Jewish attempt to obfuscate the issues at hand (we are not concerned
>here with Semites, but with the racial/ethnic/cultural group of Jews;
>Jews imply here, incorrectly, that criticism of them is criticism of
>all Semitic peoples). To listen to the Jews, “antisemitism” goes back
>to Jesus Christ himself and to the Christian scriptures.
>
>Having observed the Jews from childhood and sharing close contacts
>with them in academia and in business, I have had considerable
>opportunity to speculate on their “antisemitism.” I myself was raised
>to regard all humans as equals, regardless of race/ethnicity/religion.
>Growing up, I felt, if anything, a sympathy for the Jews (just because
>there was so much discussion, so much literature published on the
>topic, I assumed that there must be something legitimate to
>”antisemitism”). In vain, however, I sought within myself the
>roots of some prejudice against the Jews. I came to the conclusion
>that all of this moaning and groaning and shedding of crocodile tears
>is a lie. Moreover, it is essentially racist and ethnocentric. It is
>shamelss deception used to advance the interests of one group.
>
>Jews are uncanny in their ability at recognizing an opportunity to
>advance their own economic/social/political/moral position by crying
>”antisemitism.” They are strategists par excellance. How do they
>sniff out this “antisemitism”? How do they learn to recognize an
>”antisemite”?
>
>In reality, “antisemitism” was born of the Jews’ own deep hatred for
>non-Jews and their religious teachings which promote discrimination
>against non-Jews. The Israeli scholar Israel Shahak states: “Judaism
>is imbued with a very deep hatred towards Christianity, combined with
>ignorance about it” (quote p. 97, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The
>Weight of Three Thousand Years, London: Pluto Press, 1994, foreward by
>Gore Vidal). Knowing no tradition of democracy or intellectual
>freedom, the Jews for centuries were herded like cattle by
>their rabbis. The very ghetto system has its origin in the teachings
>of Judaism and in the leadership of the rabbis. Isolated socially
>from non-Jews, the Jews were fed a steady diet of anti-Christian
>hatred by their rabbis, who emphasized the anti-Christian teachings of
>the Jewish Talmud.
>
>Traditionally, the higher secular and religious authorities in
>Christian society sheltered and protected the Jews. Why then were
>there periodic revolts against the Jews, in which Christian peasants
>committed acts of violence against Jews? As an honest Jewish
>historian will admit, the root of these disturbances was ECONOMIC, and
>should not be sought in some mythical RACIAL/RELIGIOUS hatred of
>Jews. The Jews were traditionally used by the Christian royalty and
>nobility to manipulate the Christian lower classes. The Jews were
>tavern-keepers, shop-owners, money-lenders. They were viewed by the
>Christian peasant as bloodsuckers and parasites. It is a fact that
>Jews were murdered by Christian peasants, but this happened in what
>was popularly understood as a response to Jewish greed and
>manipulation.
>
>In response to criticism of the Jews, 19th century Jews formulated the
>theory of hereditary Christian antisemitism. In reality, the type of
>hatred of which Christians were accused was the same type of hatred
>which JEWS THEMSELVES had harboured against Christians over the
>centuries. (Of course, the Jews have never been eager to discuss
>their true feelings towards Christians. These feelings, passed down
>from generation to generation, are responsible for the hopeless racism
>and ethnocentrism we observe daily among the Jews, e.g. the
>idea accepted by both Jews and non-Jews that Jews have the right to
>promote intermarriage only within their own community. Yet for a
>Christian to really understand this ethnocentrism, he needs access to
>original Hebrew-language sources). Their beloved Sigmund Freud
>called this psychological device PROJECTION. The Jews have PROJECTED
>their own anti-Christian hatred onto the Christians.
>
>Who then is an “antisemite”? An antisemite is a person disliked by
>the Jews.
>
>ov
>
>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:07:54 GMT, couzijn@/remove-this/ilo.uva.nl
>(Michel Couzijn) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:53:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>The phenomenon of “antisemitism” deserves critical study.
>>
>>Absolutely. But not by you,
>>Michel Couzijn
>>Amsterdam, The Netherlands

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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:03 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>>From [email protected] Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>
>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>
>>Laura is my kind of gal… she has many a valid point in the following
>>post. In fact, 66 valid points. Don’t know why she
>>didn’t post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>————————————————
>>
>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews?
>>
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual
>>”survivors.” This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have
>>actually witnessed any “gassing.” There are no contemporaneous documents
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no “human soap,” no lamp shades made
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics.
>>
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the
>>Nazis?
>>
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated
>>”six million” figure is an irresponsible exaggeration.
>>
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that “there were no
>>extermination camps on German soil”?
>>
>>Yes. The famous “Nazi hunter” wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24,
>>1993. He also claimed that “gassings” of Jews took place only in Poland.
>>
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an
>>extermination camp?
>>
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a “gas chamber.” The
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a
>>”gassing” camp.
>>
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used
>>to kill people there?
>>
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large “gas chamber.” After
>>America’s leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities,
>>he stated that it was an “absurdity” to claim that they were, or could
>>have been, used for executions.
>>
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn’t a “death camp,” what was its true purpose?
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as
>>a workforce.
>>
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps?
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called
>>”concentration camps” in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II.
>>
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American “relocation”
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII?
>>
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the
>>basis of race alone.
>>
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps?
>>
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all
>>suspected security risks — not just Jews — were in danger of
>>internment.
>>
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as
>>early as 1933?
>>
>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an
>>international boycott of German goods.
>>
>>11. Did the Jews of the world “declare war on Germany”?
>>
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced “Judea
>>Declares War on Germany.”
>>
>>12. Was this before or after the “death camp” stories began?
>>
>>This was years before the “death camp” stories, which began in
>>1941-1942.
>>
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass
>>civilian bombing?
>>
>>Britain — on May 11, 1940.
>>
>>14. How many “gas chambers” to kill people were there at Auschwitz?
>>None.
>>
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German
>>control during the war?
>>
>>Fewer than six million.
>>
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what
>>happened to them?
>>
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war.
>>
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet
>>Union?
>>
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control.
>>
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting
>>them outside of German reach?
>>
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR).
>>
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant,
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was?
>>
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators
>>later admitted.
>>
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact “confessions” for use at the
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere?
>>
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent “evidence” for
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar “war crimes” trials.
>>
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today?
>>
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders.
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to
>>justify US aid to Israel.
>>
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel?
>>
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in “reparations” Germany has paid
>>to Israel and many individual “survivors.” It is used by the
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling
>>billions of dollars per year.
>>
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen?
>>
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted “Chosen People.”
>>
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists?
>>
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before,
>>during and after the Second World War.
>>
>>25. How does it benefit Britain?
>>
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union.
>>
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of
>>Jews?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps?
>>Hydrocyanic gas from “Zyklon B,” a commercial pesticide that was widely
>>used throughout Europe.
>>
>>28. For what purpose was “Zyklon B” manufactured?
>>
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests.
>>
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination?
>>
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people,
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting
>>fumigation agent.
>>
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with
>>Zyklon B?
>>
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are
>>employed.
>>
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the “gas
>>chambers” to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How
>>do you explain this?
>>
>>It can’t be explained because had they done so they would have suffered
>>the same fate as the “gassing” victims.
>>
>>32. Hoess said in his “confession” that his men would smoke cigarettes
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing.
>>Isn’t Zyklon B explosive?
>>
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false.
>>
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate
>>Jews?
>>
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to “steam
>>chambers,” to “electrocution” machinery. Millions are alleged to have
>>been killed in these ways.
>>
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from
>>those who were scheduled to be killed?
>>
>>It couldn’t have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity
>>propaganda.
>>
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting?
>>They didn’t fight back because they did not believe there was any
>>intention to kill them.
>>
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps?
>>
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000.
>>
>>37. How did they die?
>>
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>>
>>38. What is typhus?
>>
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews
>>might have survived the camps.
>>
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during
>>the Second World War?
>>
>>5,700,000.
>>
>>40. Some Jewish “death camp” survivors say they saw bodies being dumped
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this?
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war.
>>
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
>>
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>>
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one
>>body, according to professional crematory operators?
>>
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further
>>processing afterwards.
>>
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens?
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had
>>died.
>>
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire
>>period such crematories were in operation?
>>
>>About 430,600.
>>
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time?
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day).
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in
>>heavy operation.
>>
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse?
>>
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full.
>>
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what
>>happened to the ashes?
>>
>>That remains to be “explained.” Six million bodies would have produced
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash
>>depositories.
>>
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken
>>during the period when the “gas chambers” and crematoria were supposedly
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination?
>>
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp,
>>nor do they show evidence of the “open pits” in which bodies were
>>allegedly burned.
>>
>>49. What was the main provision of the German “Nuremberg Laws” of 1935?
>>
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews,
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today.
>>
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws?
>>
>>Years before Hitler’s Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races.
>>
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to
>>the “Holocaust” question?
>>
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified.
>>
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews
>>were allegedly being exterminated?
>>
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn’t.
>>
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish
>>extermination program?
>>
>>None.
>>
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate?
>>
>>As early as 1933, Hitler’s government signed an agreement with the
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking
>>large amounts of capital with them.
>>
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>>
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was
>>not gassed.
>>
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine?
>>
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax.
>>
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these
>>faked?
>>
>>Photographs can be faked, but it’s far easier merely to add a misleading
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were “gassed” or
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps
>>toward the end of the war.
>>
>>58. Who originated the term “genocide”?
>>
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944.
>>
>>59. Are films such as “Schindler’s List” or “The Winds of War”
>>documentaries?
>>
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history.
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical
>>representations.
>>
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the
>>standard “Holocaust” story?
>>
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>>
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>>
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business
>>to suffer, and represented “injurious denial of established fact.”
>>
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi?
>>
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There
>>is no correlation between “Holocaust” refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>”neo-Naziism”.
>>
>>63. What has happened to “revisionist” historians who have challenged
>>the Holocaust story?
>>
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions,
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence.
>>
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic
>>freedom?
>>
>>The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on
>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been
>>overwhelmingly hostile.
>>
>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view?
>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story.
>>
>>66. Where can I get more information about the “other side” of the
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War
>>II historical revisionism?
>>
>>The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA
>>92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on
>>significant historical subjects.
>>
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>>
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>>
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:33:15 -0500, John Walker
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
>> >
>> >Contrary to your implication and claim, I certainly did not invent
>> >cross hatred nor the “anti-cross movement”. That hatred and that
>> >movement have been going on for centuries.
>> >Enough said.

>> Well, I am not aware of “cross hatred” and “anti-cross movement” “going on for
>> centuries”. Frankly, this is news to me. Can you back up your claims of “cross
>> hatred … going on for centuries” with any form of evidence? “Enough said” is
>> hardly enough 😉
>> Jerzy Malec

>===== John Walker replies: ================Enough said was more than enough
>because the topic was “Crosses at Auschwitz”,
>not “religious persecution of Christians since Christ and the Roman Empire.”

>Just a few examples:

>Russian Communists shut down churches and removed religious symbolisms in an
>attempt to end religious practices forever.

>After WWII many of the crosses above the graves of Christian soldiers have been
>replaced with headstones.
>
>There was a time when public schools in the USA would not object to clothing which
>
>displayed the Christian cross.
>
>Try displaying a cross in most Muslim countries and see how tolerant the neighbood
>is.

>Enough said.

>- John Walker

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:43:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>
>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>100,000 troops.”
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>and who is an Aryan.”
>
>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>(kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:33:05 GMT, [email protected] the maggot
apologist for the Jew Christkillers wrote:

>From deja News some interesting comments worthy of more discussion.

On 29 Sep 1997 09:42:03 GMT, [email protected](NSWPP) wrote:

> 1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>demographic statistics.

> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.

> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>WORLD WAR TWO?

> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>race or national origin alone.

> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?

> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>internment once the war broke out.

> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>been fully justified.

> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?

> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.

> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>
> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.

> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.

> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?

> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.

> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?

> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>correctional systems throughout the United States today.

> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?

> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>commonly used and available today.

> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?

> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>cross examined.

> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>WITH ZYKLON-B?

> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>only are employed.

> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.

> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?

> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>million figure as well.

> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>NOT KNOW?

> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>all during the war that such an event was occurring.

> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>DURING THE WAR?

> About 300,000.

> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?

> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.

> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>DIED?

> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.

> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?

> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.

> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?

> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>their facts, or else they are lying.]

> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?

> About two hours.

> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?

> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>typhus and other diseases.
>

> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?

> About 430,600.

> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?

> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>when in heavy operation.

> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>CORPSE?

> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.

> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?

> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>anywhere else in Europe.

> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?

> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>burned.

> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?

> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.

> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.

> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?

> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>published text.

> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.

> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?

> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.

> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)

> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>
> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>

> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?

> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>Zip. Nada.

> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>DURING THE WAR?

> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>to silence him.

> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?

> Slightly less than four million.

> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>NAZIS?

> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>kill them.

> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>HAPPENED TO THEM?

> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>they are all accounted for.

> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>TODAY?

> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>Jewish people to keep the scam going.

> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?

> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>creative and financial sectors of film making.

> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.

> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?

> Over 100, with more in the works.

> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?

> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.

> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?

> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.

> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.

> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>prison and torture in Germany.

> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.

> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.

> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>REVISIONISTS?

> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>it is: a politically inspired hoax.

>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>[email protected] – W.S.
sven88

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On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:36:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>soc.culture.baltics,soc.culture.estonianr the benefit of those of use
>who don’t have it yet?
>
>
>On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:57:36 GMT, [email protected] (Igor Chudov @
>home) wrote:
>
>>Purebred Sovok has been telling you these self-evident truths years ago.
>
>>See, e.g., a landmark article titled “Russians Reassessing Role
>>of Purebred Sovoks”.
>
>>See ya,
>
>>igor
>
>>In soc.culture.russian, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>* In view of the constant reports by Interpol that the Russian JEW Mafia
>>* is spreading its control around the world, combined with the strength of
>>* the JEWS under communism, one wonders, is Russia now under the full
>>* control of JEWS??
>
>>* Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>* From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>* Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>* Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>>* Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
>>* One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>* Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>* of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>* them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>* facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>* and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>>* First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>* was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>* Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>* Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>* bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>* also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
>>* While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>* concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>* communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>* passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>* during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>* quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S. Archives:
>
>>* State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>* general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>* anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>>* State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>* 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>* each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>* >From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>* March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>* Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>* United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>* beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>
>>* A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>* on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>* `commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>* Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>* Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>* Government.”
>
>>* With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>* leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>* (Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>* access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>* Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>* of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>* Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>* Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>* (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>* central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>* prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>* affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>* Moisei Uritsky.
>
>>* David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>* January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>* of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>* for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>* trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>>* The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>* “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>* spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>* organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>* object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>>* In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>* here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>* superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>* Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>* United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>>* “We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>* Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>* of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>* Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>* there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>* showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>* men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>* this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>* more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>* Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>* of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>* startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>* startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>* community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>* regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>* out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>* exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>* Gordon.
>
>>* I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>* revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>* the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>* often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>* all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>* there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>* but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>* were Jews.
>
>>* I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>* Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>* posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>* was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>* did not take kindly to it.”
>
>>* Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>* “anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>* few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>>* “The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>* Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>* new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>* Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>* and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>* physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>* Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>>* “There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>* many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>* many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>* 4, 1919)
>
>>* “Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>* S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>* “In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>* communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>* the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>>* Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>* so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>* himself:
>
>>* “National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>* characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>* extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>* cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>* penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>>* While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>* clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>* virtually untouched.
>
>>* It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>* conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>* population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>* million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>* campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>* of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>* American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>>* Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>* murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>* directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>* Communist bosses.
>
>>* Regards,
>>* Roger Hughes
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>* Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>* http://www.natall.com
>>* http://www.natvan.com
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>* Roger’s Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>* Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>* Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>* ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:16:12 GMT, [email protected] wanted to
include the following text, for his Jew masters:

On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:22:55 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

From [email protected] Thu Oct 22 14:35:13 EDT 1998
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:33:40 GMT, [email protected] the jew
maggot wanted to write (instead of forging articles):
On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:01:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>in support of his jew faggot lovers:

>On 1 Jul 1998 20:49:49 GMT, [email protected] (Billy Bob
>Throckmorton) wrote:

>>In article , [email protected]
>>says…

>>>On 1 Jul 1998 12:17:04 GMT, Doc Tavish, hiding behind
>> wrote:
>>>>How many Jews have you ever seen denounce this filthy
>>>>lifestyle? See what I mean!?
>>
>>>ROTFL!!! Why should we denounce it?
>>
>>So you do approve what G-d has condemned? Very interesting indeed. It shows
>>why Jews have been vomited out of all the lands they have infested if one
>>is to accept the Torah!
>>
>>>It’s part of the plan to destroy the filthy, inferior ary*n race!
>>>Encouraging ary*n homosexuality (pretty easy to do, since they’re
>>>already so prone to it) helps keep the white birth rate down.
>>
>>So you are confessing now that Jews aren’t white also?
>>
>>>Every little bit helps…
>>
>>Your simple admission tells all that homosexuality comes
>>from Jews! In my studies of the Jew I have learned that the Law
>>given to Moses was for Jews only and not for the people of the
>>nations or the Goy.
>>
>>See: http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=325176411
>>
>>and
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364072939
>>Subject: The Noachide Laws
>>
>>What does G-d require from non-Jews?
>>————————————————————–
>>
>>Our sages teach us that G-d gave seven laws or commandments that are
>>binding on all humanity. The first six of these laws were given to
>>Adam. Because the last of these seven commandments was given to Noah
>>and his sons, the seven laws are collectively referred to as “the
>>Noachide Laws”, or “the Commandments of Noah’s Sons”.
>>
>>The Noachide Laws are:
>>
>>1. Not to worship idols;
>>2. Not to curse G-d;
>>3. To establish courts of justice (some say, not to pervert justice);
>>4. Not to murder;
>>5. Not to commit adultery or incest;
>>6. Not to steal;
>>7. Not to eat flesh from a living animal.
>>
>>The Oral Law (the Talmud) teaches clearly that whoever obeys these
>>seven commandments has a portion in the world to come.
>>
>> Abraham was the first person in history to publicly proclaim the
>>Noachide Laws to the masses, although there certainly were righteous
>>persons before Abraham who knew these commandments and practiced them
>>(Noah himself, to name just one).
>>
>>The Torah was given exclusively to the Jews, along with the
>>responsibility to inform the world of the universal commandments.
>>
>> ———–END————
>>
>>I guess this is why homosexual acts were mentioned in your Torah! It
>>appears you Jew boys liked buggering each other up the ass thousands of
>>years ago. If this weren’t true then why would
>>G-d have told Moses (as depicted in the Jewish Torah):
>>
>>http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
>>
>>Acharey Mot, Leviticus Chapter 18
>>
>>18 : 22 Do not lie with a male as you would with a woman, since this
>>is a disgusting perversion.
>>18 : 23 Do not perform any sexual act with an animal, since it will
>>defile you. A woman shall [likewise] not give herself to an animal and
>>allow it to mate with her. This is an utterly detestable perversion.
>>18 : 24 Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It was
>>as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away before you
>>became defiled.
>>18 : 25 The land became defiled, and when I directed My providence at
>>the sin committed there, the land vomited out its inhabitants.
>>18 : 26 You, [however,] must keep My decrees and laws, and not become
>>involved in any of these disgusting perversions – neither the native
>>born nor any foreigner who settles among you.
>>18 : 27 The people who lived in the land before you did all these
>>disgusting perversions and defiled the land.
>>18 : 28 But [you shall not cause] the land to vomit you out when you
>>defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was there before you.
>>
>>The same Torah also says:
>>Chumash References
>>Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20
>>
>>20 : 7 You must sanctify yourselves and be holy, for I am God your
>>Lord.
>>20 : 8 Safeguard My decrees and keep them, since I am God [and] I am
>>making you holy.
>>20 : 9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be
>>put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be
>>stoned to death.
>>20 : 10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is
>>the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress
>>shall be put to death.
>>20 : 11 If a man has intercourse with his father’s wife, he has
>>committed a sexual offense against his father. Therefore, both of them
>>shall be put to death by stoning.
>>20 : 12 If a man has intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of
>>them shall be put to death. Since they have committed an utterly
>>detestable perversion, they shall be stoned to death.
>>20 : 13 If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner
>>as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion.
>>They shall be put to death by stoning.
>>
>>>BTW, for information on rampant homosexuality amongst your
>>>ary*n “heroes:” see “The Pink Swatstika:”
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~lively/
>>
>>I could care less but Jeffrey Georg Brown may be interested.
>>I hope and pray that America “vomits” out its filth soon as well!
>>You all will not be missed!
>>
>> Billy Bob
>>
>>> Bob Alpert * balpert “at” netaxs.com * Author of the Jewish Conspiracy
>sven88
>

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:28:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
in 1997?

The 200,000 refers only to the first 6 months of 1997.
This must have put a major economic drain on the economies of those
cities such as Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton, where Chinese used to
locate.

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>extortionate taxes in Canada.

>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!

>The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.

>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>returns.

>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>Income Taxes.

>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>have also closed down many businesses.

>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>country.

>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] (Clturnomad) wrote:

>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>> interested in people’s response to the following question:

>>> In the last few years, there has been a surge of “returnees” to Hong Kong –
>>> people who left the territory to get a foreign passport, and have now
>>> returned. My question is this: Why do Hong Kong people who have emigrated
>>> to, say, Canada or the US, and maybe even spent years living in their new
>>> home, feel the desire to return to Hong Kong? Is there anything about Hong
>>> Kong that is really that much better than the US or Canada?
sven88

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On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:44:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 19:04:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese, who have returned from
>Canada to Hong Kong, because of the extorion of Revenue Canada??
>
>Rumor is that the number for the past 15 months, is now over 380,000
>families, with all their wealth…
>
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:18:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>For the benefit of those Chinese, who may be considering moving to
>>Canada – BEWARE!!!
>
>>The article below was published last year, and is picked up from Deja
>>News.
>
>>On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:44:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>
>>This is probably true.
>
>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>
>>The same day that the Auditor-General of canada exposed this, the
>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>
>>This is in writing, on page 2 of the t1 general tax return for year
>>1996!!!
>
>
>>The tax is definitely NOT IMAGINARY, and the more than 200,000 former
>>Chinese residents of Canada, who have returned to Hong Kong, are in a
>>position to call the Blankety Blank a LIAR!!!
>
>
>>>This is completely untrue as well you know. There is no income tax on
>>>assets, there is income tax on the income derived from those assets.
>
>>>>The section clearly says ASSETS, not Income, as all the Chinese who
>>>>return to Hong Kong will tell you!!!
>
>>Further, the same section as appeared on the tax returns for 1996
>>year, is now also on the tax returns for 1997!!!
>
>>>Again the feilyu in HK is proven a liar!!!
>
>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>returns.
>
>>>>Further, the requirement to report those assets has been postponed.
>
>>>You are again LYING, since this section has been included in the
>>>>reporting requirements for LAST YEAR’S TAX RETURNS!!!
>
>>>>Let me get this right, Willy says that the reporting requirements are
>>>>on last year’s tax returns, he said this in 1997 and now says this is
>>>>the reason that people are leaving in 1998, two years later.
>
>>>Chinese are STILL leaving Canada, to return to HK and SE Asia. Just ask
>>>your friends and neighbours, and even the Chinese newspapers
>>>throughout the region.
>
>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>Income Taxes.
>
>>>>So the assets are overseas, however because they are overseas and they
>>>>have to be shown, the Chinese leave Canada “together with their
>>>>billions” which weren’t in Canada in the first place (remember they
>>>>were overseas). So what are the billions that they take out of Canada?
>>>>Billions? How many billionaires are there in Canada in total? How many
>>>>are Chinese? How many have left Canada?
>
>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in Vancouver,
>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>have also closed down many businesses.
>
>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>country.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:21:16 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
in 1997?

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>extortionate taxes in Canada.

>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!

>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>returns.

>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>Income Taxes.

>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>have also closed down many businesses.

>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>country.

>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] (Clturnomad) wrote:

>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>> interested in people’s response to the following question:

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>
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>>>
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>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>>
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>>>
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>sven88

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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.

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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:38:04 -0500 (CDT), [email protected] (gespo)
wrote:
>Heil Hitler join Knights of Freedom www.kof.net

On 19 Oct 1998 12:07:17 GMT, [email protected] (DeppityBob)
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach
wrote:

>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>100,000 troops.”
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>>Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>(kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>

>From the World According to Alex came:
>
>
>
>Don’t tell me, Fred Leuchter, right? Is this supposed to make me throw up
>again?
>
>
>Dep
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>”MY SCREENNAME IS LEGION!”
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:47:10 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:26:43, kenoy wrote:
>
>>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES
>
>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven’t.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.
>-88-

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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, [email protected] (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>
>>>> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
>>>
>>>> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>>>
>>>> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>
>>>> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well.
>>>
>>>> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring.
>>>
>>>> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>> About 300,000.
>>>
>>>> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>>>
>>>> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>>>
>>>> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>> About two hours.
>>>
>>>> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>> About 430,600.
>>>
>>>> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>
>>>> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>>>
>>>> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>>>
>>>> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text.
>>>
>>>> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>>>
>>>> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>>>>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>>>
>>>> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>
>>>> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada.
>>>
>>>> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>> Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making.
>>>
>>>> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>>>>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>> Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>>>
>>>> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany.
>>>
>>>> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>[email protected] – W.S.
>>>
>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>
>>> —————————————————————————
>>>
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>>
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>>
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>>
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>>
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>>
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>>
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>>
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew> could
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>>
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>>
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>>
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>>
>>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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>>>> …snipped…
>>It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
>>steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
>>privilege, n’est-ce pas??
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If you’ve got a point to make, make it near the top, and snip the
>rest.
>Derek

For the benefit of those who want ALL the background info, here goes:
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0700, allonzo
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> …snipped…

>I have watched these fabricated allegations develop for years now.
>I arrest eh? Twenty seven charged and only one arrest. Thousands of
>pieces of mail missing,, uh huh.

> Tell us are cupw negotiating with the government on the issue of wages
>and conditions at this time.? You are what is politely called a ‘ provocateur’;
>a government creation not unknown in the internet history of newsgroups.
>The government hopes to scam millions off the backs of Canadians through
>ploys like this and others and then dump the proceeds into the laps of their
>big shot buddies.

It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
privilege, n’est-ce pas??

GET YOUR GOVERNMENT TO EMBARGO MAIL TO/FROM CANADA.
PUBLICISE THEFTS IN YOUR MEDIA.

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.

>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!

>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!

>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.

>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>THEM!!!

>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>at Canada Post include:

>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number

>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number

>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440

>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!

>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.

>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.

>>>>Read all the articles below!!!

>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.

>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.

>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.

>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.

>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.

>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.

>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.

>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.

>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:

>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>> Carl E. Kane
>>> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>> writes
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?

>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com

>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.

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On Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:08:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>The article below sheds further light on the problem relating to
>faggots!!!
>
>The pentateuch contains strong pronouncements against homosexuality,
>and secular Jews who desire “social justice” in reaction to these
>views have come to identify with homosexuals. Jewish people, as is
>noted elsewhere in this tome, are abstract thinkers who, as such, are
>blind to qualitative distinctions between discrimination
>against homosexuals and discrimination against Jews. The fact that
>homosexuals choose to engage in that form of lifestyle (or, at the
>very least, to make it public) is one such example of a qualitative
>distinction which a Jewish mind, committed to “social justice,” will
>gloss over.
>
>Moreover, Jewish people, who have a high neurosis rate compared to
>other peoples are likely more susceptible to homosexual maladaption.
>And Jewish women,who are already renowned for unhappiness in marriage
>may, when we consider that many of them are brought up in divorced
>homes (divorce being more common among Jews) very well be more
>inclined to lesbianism. (40% of all lesbians have dead or divorced
>mothers.)
>
>In consequence, the majority of Jews (who are irreligious or of a
>liberal bent) have come to identify with homosexuals. A consensus has
>been established that will necessitate, via Jewish influence, the
>ultimate political and cultural ascendency of homosexuality in North
>America. Part of this cultural trend can be seen in the spate
>of AIDS plays which Broadway is continually dishing out, the main
>focus of this appendix.
>
>”The play’s authors are almost all Jewish. _Angels in America_ is by
>Tony Kushner, _Jeffrey_ by Paul Rudnick, and both music and lyrics to
>_Falsettos_ are by William Finn. _The Night Larry Kramer Kissed Me_ is
>by the only Gentile, David Drake, but the title’s Larry Kramer is
>Jewish and a real person, author of _The Normal Heart_ and _The
>Destiny of Me_, two angry AIDS-homosexual plays of
>1985 and 1992, respectively. (Barbra Streisand is currently planning a
>movie version of _The Normal Heart_.) In all these plays, a
>homosexual, usually a Jewish protagonist’s Gentile lover, dies of
>AIDS”
>
>”From the production’s opening number, “Four Jews in a Room Bitching,”
>
>through the last act –fully half of which is devoted to preparations
>for and the final culmination of young Jason’s Bar Mitzvah–
>_Falsettos_ is Jewish, Jewish, Jewish.”
>
>”Just who are the legions of theatregoers that have made homosexual
>theater commercially viable? Here we come to a curious recognition.
>Starting after WWII, Jewish playwrights succeeded on Broadway in large
>numbers, and at the same time Jews have come to dominate Broadway
>audiences… When I … was required for professional reasons to see
>almost everything on Broadway, I was intrigued to find theater
>audiences that seemed overwhelmingly Jewish –a point perhaps more
>noticeable to the son of a Jewish mother.” [Richard Grenier, “The
>Homosexual Millenium: Is it Here? Is it Approaching?” National Review,
>
>June 7, 1993. Another play, of note, is William Hoffman’s “As Is” and
>Fierstein’s “Torch Song Trilogy.”]
>
>In response to a letter accusing Mr. Grenier of Anti-Semitism, he
>responded: “The leading Jewish figures [of these plays] are
>homosexuals and most of the leading homosexuals are Jews. The
>characters talk endlessly about Jews and homosexuality, homosexual and
>Jews. The playwrights themselves find a correlation. Am I not
>to notice this?” [National Review, August 9, 1993]
>
>Angels in America_ is “‘One of the greatest… as funny as it is
>profound’ shouted USA Today. Frank Rich, guru of cultural New York,
>pronounced on the occasion of its opening in Los Angeles that Tony
>Kushner’s two-part, seven- hour _Angels in America_ had ‘created an
>original theatrical world’ that ‘once entered by the
>open-minded viewer of any sexual or political persuasion, simply
>cannot be escaped.’ This spring it won the Pulitzer Prize. Producers
>nearly shed blood amongst themselves over which of them would bankroll
>the play on Broadway. Rarely before have we seen the media in such a
>feeding frenzy. The New Yorker’s John Lahr practically swooned in
>ecstasy. ‘From its first beat, ‘Angels in America’ exhibited a
>ravishing command of its characters and of the discourse it
>wanted to have through them with our society.'”
>
>”Alienation is, indeed, one of the major themes of the play. The first
>
>scene, in which the old rabbi makes a funeral speech, sounds the tonic
>
>note of alienation –‘how we struggled, and how we fought, for the
>family, for the Jewish home, so that you would not grow up here, in
>this strange place, in the melting pot where nothing
>melted.’ For Kushner, being a Jew is a metaphor for being gay.” [Yale
>Kramer, “Angels on Broadway”, American Spectator, July 1993]
>
>———–
>
>TWICE BLESSED: ON BEING LESBIAN, “GAY,” AND JEWISH:
>
>The book “Twice Blessed: On Being Lesbian, Gay, AND Jewish” (ed. by
>Christie Balka and Andy Rose) features a helpful list of Jewish/”Gay”
>articles and organizations, some of which I will quote here to
>deliniate the scope of the phenomenom of Jewish support for
>homosexuality.
>
>Landmark Articles in Building Pro-homosexual Consensus….:
>
>As has been pointed out, gay Jews, and their secular supporters have
>managed to build a consensus in support of homosexuality. This process
>
>can be observed in”landmark” articles which have appeared in major
>Jewish periodicals. Here is a list of several pro-homosexual articles
>which have appeared in major Jewish
>periodicals, in chronological order, as featured in “Twice Blessed”:
>
>1973) “Judaism and Homosexuality.” _CCAR Journal_ 20, no. 3 (Summer
>1973). “This symposium in the journal of the Reform movement was
>inspired by the application of Beth Chayim Chadashim, a gay and
>lesbian outreach congregation… for admission to the Union of
>American Hebrew Congregations.”
>
>1975) “Must Homosexuals Be Jewish Outcasts?” _Sh’ma_ 5:98 (October 3,
>1975), pp.303-5. “…first published article by a gay Jew in a
>mainstream Jewish periodical… calls for tolerance and acceptance.”
>
>1977) Mehler, Barry. “Gay Jews: One Man’s Journey from Closet to
>Community.” _Moment_ 2, no. 5 (February/March 1977): 22-24. “…a
>moving personal account of coming out and finding a home in the gay
>community.”
>
>1978) Matt, Hershel J. “Sin, Crime, Sickness or Alternative Life
>Style?: A Jewish Approach to Homosexuality.” _Judaism_ 27
>(1978):13-24. “For many years this essay was considered to be the
>authoritative liberal Jewish statement on homosexuality…. [they
>should be] accepted as they are. He calls for a marriage
>ceremony or similiar affirmation for gay and lesbian Jews.”
>
>1985) Marder, Janet R. “Getting to Know the Gay and Lesbian Shul.”
>_Reconstruct- ionist_ 51, no. 2 (October/November 1985):20-25. “Marder
>
>describers her own growth as a rabbi of Beth Chayim Chadashim. This
>journal issue… includes three other gay-supportive articles.”
>
>1986) “Homosexuality.” _Keeping Posted_ 32, no. 2 (October 1986).
>_Keeping posted_ is the Reform movement’s magazine for HIGH SCHOOL
>education.”This… edition includes a description of gay
>congregations, medical and psychological facts, and two young Jews’
>personal narratives about coming out.”
>
>1987) Matt, Hershel J. “Homosexual Rabbis?” _Conservative Judaism_ 39,
>
>no. 3 (1987):29-33. “Matt calls for the complete rejection of
>traditional Jewish teaching and supports the ordination of gays and
>lesbians as rabbis.”
>
>1988) Kirschner, Robert. “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Reappraisal.”
>_Judaism_ 37, no. 4 (Fall 1988): 450-58. “Kirscher argues that…
>halakhic creativity should be used to suspend the application of
>traditional Jewish law…. with homosexuals therefore being fully
>accepted and integrated in Jewish communal life.”
>
>Along with the landmark articles presented, this book also presents a
>handy list of Jewish/”Gay” Organizations. Here are a few of the more
>renowned ones:
>
>1) “Ameinu,” New York –a network of lesbians and gay men working
>professionally in the Jewish community.
>2) “New Jewish Agenda,” New York –provides gay educational resources,
>and “work-shops” on the topic of “homophobia.” [It is not irrational
>to fear a people who predominately carry a deadly, contagious
>disease.]
>3) “World Congress of Gay and Lesbian Jewish Organizations,”
>Washington.
> 4) “Jewish Lesbian Daughters of Holocaust Survivors.”
>5) “Union of American Hebrew Congregations,” New York. On the back of
>the book, the Rabbi President of this organization is quoted as
>follows:
>”[This book] reveals… that we are not so immune to the very
>process of stigmatization by which we as Jews have been shunned and
>persecuted and massacred. We have not extended our embrace to include
>gay and lesbian Jews, affirming that we ALL are family, that they and
>their relatives are OUR sons, OUR sisters, OUR neighbors, OUR fellow
>Jews…”
>
>Many of the contributors to this book were Rabbis, who were ordained
>at Hebrew Union College, and who went on to work at various synagogues
>
>throughout the U.S. –despite being women, and despite being in
>homosexual relationships. Here is a list of some of the exclusively
>”Gay”/Lesbian synagogues mentioned:
>
>Mishkan Shalom (Pennsylvania), Congregation Beth Chayim Chadashim (Los
>
>Angeles), Gongregation Beth Israel (Pennsylvania), Reconstructionist
>Rabbinical College (Philadelphia), Beth Ahavah (Philadelphia).
>
>In addition to this, the book gives examples of Jewish/”Gay”
>literature:
>
>-Beck, Evelyn Torton, ed. “Nice Jewish Girls: A Lesbian Anthology.”
>”The first to affirm the uniqueness and variety of Jewish lesbian
>experience.”
>
>-Bloch, Alice. “The Law of Return.” About an American woman living in
>Israel, “exploring her Jewishness while also claiming her voice as a
>woman and a lesbian.”
>
>-“Coming Out, Coming Home: Lesbian and Gay Jews and the Jewish
>Community.” New York: New Jewish Agenda 1987.
>
>-Fierstein, Harvey. “Torch Song Trilogy.” Former broadway play about
>the “triumphs” and “tragedies” of a gay Jewish drag queen.
>
>-Geller, Ruth. “Triangles.” Based on the life of the Jewish/lesbian
>author’s grandmother.
>
>-Glickman, Gary. “Years from Now.” Describes three generations of a
>Jewish family, seen in part through the eyes of the gay grandson.
>
>-Kay/Kantrowitz, Melanie, and Irena Kepfisz, eds. “The Tribe of Dina:
>Jewish Women’s Anthology.” Lesbian feminist journal.
>
>-Newman, Leslea. “A Letter to Harvey Milk.” Nine short stories about a
>
>Jewish lesbian’s friends, relationships, and families.
>
>-“Out of Our Kitchen Closets: San Francisco Gay Jewish Cooking.”
>Published by the congregations Sha’ar Zahav. “…includes a history of
>
>this gay and lesbian congregation, as well as warm and wonderful
>stories of family recipes.”
>
>-Rich, Adrienne. “Blood, Bread and Poetry.” She “has published many
>work that illuminate her… unique Jewish lesbian-feminist
>perspective.”
>
>-Silverstein, Charles. “A Family Matter: A Parent’s Guide to
>Homosexuality.” “…the first to address this issue in an informative,
>
>sympathetic and respectful manner.” [another Jewish crusader against
>tradition!]
>
>Here are some of the people listed as contributors to “Twice Blessed”,
>
>along with their “qualifications.” This list of Jewish individuals
>active in Feminist, Socialist, “Gay”/Lesbian, and other causes, not to
>mention teaching at schools, and leading non-“gay” congregations
>should give you some idea of the extent of the problem
>we face in eliminating the homosexual threat:
>
>-Adina Abramowitz, lesbian, active in a newly formed synagogue in
>Pennsylvania, directs small business loan fund.
>
>-Martha A. Ackelsberg, professor of government at Smith College,
>founder of Jewish feminist group Ezrat Nashim and of B’Not Esh.
>
>-Rebecca T. Alpert, rabbi, Reconstructionist Rabbinical College,
>served as DEAN OF STUDENTS for two years. Member of B’Not Esh.
>Published widely in Jewish history, medical ethics, Feminism.
>
>-Evelyn Torton Beck, professor/director, Women’s studies program,
>professor Jewish studies at University of Maryland. Editor of “Nice
>Jewish Girls: A Lesbian anthology.” Wrote: “Kafka and the Yiddish
>Theater,” “The Prism of Sex.”
>
>-Paul Horowitz, Bar Mitzvah at an Orthodox synagogue, member of United
>
>Synagogue Youth, spent summers at secular socialist Camp Kinder-Ring
>of the Workmen’s Circle; an activist in antiwar, feminist, and gay
>liberation movements, his writing has appeared in Out/Look, the
>lesbian/gay quarterly, and NACLA’s Report on the Americas. He is a
>member of the New Jewish Agenda and Democratic Socialists of America.
>
>-Lesley M. Silversone, graduate of HUC, program directory of Temple
>Menorah in California. Presently working on a new textbook for primary
>
>grades for the Union of American Hebrew Congregations.
>
>-Felice Yeskel, social change activist, works as an organizational
>development consultant and human relations trainer for Diversity
>Works, Inc. with a variety of groups, including small businesses,
>religious and educational institutions, social service agencies, and
>community groups. –helping groups to deal with “cultural
>difference.” [–to swallow the multicultural agenda]
>
>-Alan D. Zamochnick, president of Beth Ahavah –Philadephia’s “gay”
>and lesbian synagogue, AIDS Project coordinator for a federal civil
>rights agency.
>
>-Christie Balka, activist, has written and spoken on Middle East
>issues, feminism, and lesbian gay issues. Served as national co-chair
>of New Jewish Agenda,associate director of Shalom Center. Active in
>local Jewish community and serves on her synagogue board.
>
>-Andy Rose, social worker, community activist, has worked in many
>Jewish institutions, including with children. Founding member,
>national co-chair of New Jewish Agenda. Co-ordinates Jewish
>communities AIDS project in San Francisco. Also serves on the UAHC
>AIDS Committee and is a board member of the AIDS National Interfaith
>Network.
>
>There are more, much more…
>
>
>
>On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 00:39:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 6 Nov 1997 05:06:18 GMT, [email protected] (Kevin MacNeil)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Geoff Casey writes:
>>>
>>>[. . . ]
>>>
>>>] Let’s not continue to encourage a lifestyle that sees an early death
>>>] for homosexual men (43 years about with or without AIDS) and a very high
>>>] suicide rate. I think it is 6 x the average.
>>>
>>>The suicide rate among gays is high because homophobic people like you
>>>turn them into social outcasts for living in a way which may well be
>>>innate and therefore not subject to change for the sake of convenience.
>>>Have you thought of that?
>>
>>
>>The suicide rate is so high, because the perverts prefer to kill
>>themselves and each other, by engaging in an unnatural, dangerous
>>lifestyle.
>>
>>The ONLY CURE FOR FAGGOTS, IS INSTANT CREMATION!!

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