On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:35:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
>insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
>Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??
>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.
>>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>>Canadian/US relations, what???
>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>Life Insurance??
>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>YEARS??
>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million – crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>Cuba??
>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>reparations??
>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, [email protected] (Ricardoag) wrote:
>>Wednesday, July 8, 1998
>>Helms won’t let Sherritt off the hook
>>By PETER MORTON
>>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post
>> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say.
>> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday.
>> “Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>>see Sherritt off the hook,” said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>>negotiations.
>> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>>essentially “immunize” Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>>since then, the source said.
>> “In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity all with the blessing of
>>the U.S. government,” Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>>State Madeline Albright.
>> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans.
>> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton.
>> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms’s concerns.
>> “We’re not agreeable to modifying the agreement,” he said.
>> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>>presented to Congress.
>> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>>of dollars.
>> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>>if the EU ensured the two countries’ terrorism campaigns were not being
>>supported.
>> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi.
>> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away.
>> “There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration,” an official said.
>> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba.
>> “Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached,” he said.
>> ricardo a. gonzalez
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach
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>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>100,000 troops.”
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>>Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>(kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
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On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:24 -0400, “Dan Parker”
>Traffickers’ New Cargo:
>Naive Slavic Women
>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>
>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>tops of tables.
>
>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>eyes.
>
>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>you and bring you back.”
>
>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>the robust global economy.
>
>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>
>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>into Western Europe alone.
>
>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>
>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>really happen at all.”
>
>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>
>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>
>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>countries and, usually, false documents.
>
>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>wages they could never imagine at home.
>
>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>
>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>are ubiquitous.
>
>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>
>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>
>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>the violence that awaits them.
>
>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>captors.
>
>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>
>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>
>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>average price of just under $1,000.
>
>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
>time.”
>
>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>very light.”
>
>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>against the sale of human beings.
>
>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>
>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>
>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>
>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>cell phone.
>
>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>Soviet Union.
>
>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>
>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>is all we need.”
>
>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>routine part of her job.
>
>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>
>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>
>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>
>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>become a matter of survival.
>
>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>
>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>find to save themselves.
>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>are go to men. So they leave.”
>
>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>
>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>
>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>
>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>arrested.”
>
>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>
>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>
>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>employed illegally there now.
>
>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>
>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>
>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>which had enslaved them.”
>
>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>
>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>
>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>now.”
>
>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>
>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>
>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>factory for no wages?”
>
>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>
>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>I could ever get at home.”
>
>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>
>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>
>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>
>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>
>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>
>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>
>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>ready to do anything for money.”
>
>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>
>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>laughed heartily.
>
>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>
>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>
>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>documents are taken to prison.
>
>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>
>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>did nothing to hide their identities.
>
>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>protection program.
>
>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>
>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>
>
>
>
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach
wrote:
>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>100,000 troops.”
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>>Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>(kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
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On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:24 -0400, “Dan Parker”
>Traffickers’ New Cargo:
>Naive Slavic Women
>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>
>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>tops of tables.
>
>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>eyes.
>
>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>you and bring you back.”
>
>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>the robust global economy.
>
>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>
>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>into Western Europe alone.
>
>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>
>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>really happen at all.”
>
>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>
>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>
>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>countries and, usually, false documents.
>
>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>wages they could never imagine at home.
>
>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>
>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>are ubiquitous.
>
>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>
>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>
>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>the violence that awaits them.
>
>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>captors.
>
>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>
>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>
>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>average price of just under $1,000.
>
>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
>time.”
>
>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>very light.”
>
>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>against the sale of human beings.
>
>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>
>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>
>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>
>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>cell phone.
>
>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>Soviet Union.
>
>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>
>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>is all we need.”
>
>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>routine part of her job.
>
>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>
>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>
>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>
>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>become a matter of survival.
>
>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>
>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>find to save themselves.
>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>are go to men. So they leave.”
>
>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>
>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>
>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>
>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>arrested.”
>
>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>
>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>
>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>employed illegally there now.
>
>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>
>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>
>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>which had enslaved them.”
>
>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>
>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>
>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>now.”
>
>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>
>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>
>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>factory for no wages?”
>
>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>
>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>I could ever get at home.”
>
>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>
>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>
>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>
>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>
>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>
>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>
>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>ready to do anything for money.”
>
>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>
>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>laughed heartily.
>
>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>
>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>
>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>documents are taken to prison.
>
>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>
>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>did nothing to hide their identities.
>
>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>protection program.
>
>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>
>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>
>
>
>
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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From [email protected] Mon Oct 19 17:51:10 EDT 1998
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Subject: Re: Nizkor – Tax Fraud
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:39:29 GMT
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On Sun, 07 Sep 1997 19:00:31 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>(Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>Check this out!
>>Nizkor Funding
>>URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>
>>
>>
>>”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>
>>The League continues to monitor hate on the Internet and to propose
>>educational curricula and policy development to regulate, in some way,
>>the transmission of hateful messages. The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>
>>There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>promote Jewish interests. If any of them are White Americans then they
>>are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>
>>The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>dramatizations.
>>
>>Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>
>>NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>interest immediately, and the Nizkor abonimation should be shut down
>>and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>
>>You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>www.natvan.com
>>www.natall.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
From [email protected] Mon Oct 19 18:05:45 EDT 1998
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Subject: Re: Canada Post Managers Can STEAL MAIL!!!
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0700, allonzo
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> …snipped…
>I have watched these fabricated allegations develop for years now.
>I arrest eh? Twenty seven charged and only one arrest. Thousands of
>pieces of mail missing,, uh huh.
> Tell us are cupw negotiating with the government on the issue of wages
>and conditions at this time.? You are what is politely called a ‘ provocateur’;
>a government creation not unknown in the internet history of newsgroups.
>The government hopes to scam millions off the backs of Canadians through
>ploys like this and others and then dump the proceeds into the laps of their
>big shot buddies.
It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
privilege, n’est-ce pas??
GET YOUR GOVERNMENT TO EMBARGO MAIL TO/FROM CANADA.
PUBLICISE THEFTS IN YOUR MEDIA.
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.
>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!
>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.
>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>THEM!!!
>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>at Canada Post include:
>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!
>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.
>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.
>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.
>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>> Carl E. Kane
>>> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?
>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0700, allonzo
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> …snipped…
>I have watched these fabricated allegations develop for years now.
>I arrest eh? Twenty seven charged and only one arrest. Thousands of
>pieces of mail missing,, uh huh.
> Tell us are cupw negotiating with the government on the issue of wages
>and conditions at this time.? You are what is politely called a ‘ provocateur’;
>a government creation not unknown in the internet history of newsgroups.
>The government hopes to scam millions off the backs of Canadians through
>ploys like this and others and then dump the proceeds into the laps of their
>big shot buddies.
It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
privilege, n’est-ce pas??
GET YOUR GOVERNMENT TO EMBARGO MAIL TO/FROM CANADA.
PUBLICISE THEFTS IN YOUR MEDIA.
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.
>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!
>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.
>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>THEM!!!
>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>at Canada Post include:
>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!
>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.
>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.
>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.
>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>> Carl E. Kane
>>> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?
>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:01:57 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>Michael Kagalenko wrote:
>>
>> Ukrainian emigrees in USA in Canada are the biggest defenders of Nazi
>> criminals.
> A fabrication based on fallacy signifying pharisaism…
>
> GHC
Typical of the JEW run KGB, n’est-ce pas?
On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>
>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment
>
>>by Yossi Melman
>
>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha’aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.]
>
>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>
>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman’s noose, and his close
>>family
>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling –
>>years later proven to be incorrect – that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk’s extradition to
>>Israel.
>
>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>Court
>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>hope to reach.
>
>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt’s star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>Judge George Paine of the
>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>and primarily B’nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>ago.
>
>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. “I am just a
>>lot
>>more sober,” he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt’s
>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>against Demjanjuk.
>
>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>being inefficient and
>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>to “deliver the goods”: either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government – through
>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem – to request Demjanjuk’s
>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>
>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>Demjanjuk’s extradition.
>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him.
>
>>”Today we know,” says Merritt, “that they – the OSI, the prosecution in
>>the case and the State Department – lied through their teeth. Even then
>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>information at the time.
>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>Israel.” Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was “nothing
>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted.”
>
>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk’s trial, Michael
>>Shaked. “Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk’s identification as Ivan the
>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman’s noose.
>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars.” As for
>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, “Yes, I heard
>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>introduced to the court, it’s impossible to find him guilty of other
>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>Terrible.”
>
>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>investigation
>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge’s claim
>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>their legal advisers, who
>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>Cinncinnati trial
>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>required by law. “My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>judge,
>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>the officials in Washington – to submit all the information they had to
>>the court.”
>>The investigation of Judge Merritt’s complaint is still underway.
>
>>Gilbert Merritt’s curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor’s degree at Yale,
>>and then
>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>situation of the black minority of
>>one of the most racist southern states.
>
>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him.
>
>>”Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>demand for an investigation,” he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>”They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>organizations could have.”
>
>>Merritt’s friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge’s chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>Nashville.
>
>>”At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies – golf, tennis,
>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>universities.”
>
>>[End]
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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On 18 Oct 1998 18:55:53 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay
SOBC)wanted to write what is below, but instead forged his usual
pro-JEW garbage:
>Good tip, Bill!
On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:
>
>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.
>
>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.
>
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger
>
>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is
>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
> telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>
>
>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>> answer??
>
>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>> who can be reached at:
> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>
>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>> [email protected], or
>>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
> In Message, put first line of message as:
> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
> They are waiting for your complaints
>
>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>
>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>> > letters?
>
>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>Brith’s butt.
>
>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>Canadian dollars.
>
>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>> >OyVey???
>
>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>
>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>> >Check this out!
>
>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>
>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>
>>>> The League is working closely
>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>
>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>
>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>
>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>>>>[email protected]
>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>
>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>
>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>
>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>[email protected] which contains the
>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com
>
>
>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>Canada!!!
>
>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return…. and see if it comes
>>>from anthing called “Nizkor,” or claims that it would… won’t that be
>>>fun, Bill? If you don’t get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>you’ve got me, eh?
>
>>>Please print this form and send to:
>>>The Nizkor Project
>>>c/o
>>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>>xxxxxx Street
>>>Toronto, Ontario
>
>>>Name:________________________________________
>>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>>cheque’s memo section.
>
>
>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>[#0235903-43-13]
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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On 18 Oct 1998 18:55:53 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay
SOBC)wanted to write what is below, but instead forged his usual
pro-JEW garbage:
>Good tip, Bill!
On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:
>
>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.
>
>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.
>
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger
>
>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is
>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
> telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>
>
>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>> answer??
>
>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>> who can be reached at:
> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>
>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>> [email protected], or
>>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
> In Message, put first line of message as:
> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
> They are waiting for your complaints
>
>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>
>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>> > letters?
>
>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>Brith’s butt.
>
>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>Canadian dollars.
>
>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>> >OyVey???
>
>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>
>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>> >Check this out!
>
>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>
>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>
>>>> The League is working closely
>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>
>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>
>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>
>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>>>>[email protected]
>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>
>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>
>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>
>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>[email protected] which contains the
>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com
>
>
>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>Canada!!!
>
>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return…. and see if it comes
>>>from anthing called “Nizkor,” or claims that it would… won’t that be
>>>fun, Bill? If you don’t get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>you’ve got me, eh?
>
>>>Please print this form and send to:
>>>The Nizkor Project
>>>c/o
>>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>>xxxxxx Street
>>>Toronto, Ontario
>
>>>Name:________________________________________
>>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>>cheque’s memo section.
>
>
>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>[#0235903-43-13]
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:01:57 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>Michael Kagalenko wrote:
>>
>> Ukrainian emigrees in USA in Canada are the biggest defenders of Nazi
>> criminals.
> A fabrication based on fallacy signifying pharisaism…
>
> GHC
Typical of the JEW run KGB, n’est-ce pas?
On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>
>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment
>
>>by Yossi Melman
>
>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha’aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.]
>
>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>
>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman’s noose, and his close
>>family
>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling –
>>years later proven to be incorrect – that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk’s extradition to
>>Israel.
>
>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>Court
>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>hope to reach.
>
>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt’s star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>Judge George Paine of the
>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>and primarily B’nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>ago.
>
>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. “I am just a
>>lot
>>more sober,” he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt’s
>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>against Demjanjuk.
>
>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>being inefficient and
>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>to “deliver the goods”: either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government – through
>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem – to request Demjanjuk’s
>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>
>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>Demjanjuk’s extradition.
>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him.
>
>>”Today we know,” says Merritt, “that they – the OSI, the prosecution in
>>the case and the State Department – lied through their teeth. Even then
>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>information at the time.
>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>Israel.” Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was “nothing
>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted.”
>
>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk’s trial, Michael
>>Shaked. “Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk’s identification as Ivan the
>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman’s noose.
>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars.” As for
>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, “Yes, I heard
>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>introduced to the court, it’s impossible to find him guilty of other
>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>Terrible.”
>
>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>investigation
>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge’s claim
>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>their legal advisers, who
>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>Cinncinnati trial
>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>required by law. “My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>judge,
>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>the officials in Washington – to submit all the information they had to
>>the court.”
>>The investigation of Judge Merritt’s complaint is still underway.
>
>>Gilbert Merritt’s curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor’s degree at Yale,
>>and then
>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>situation of the black minority of
>>one of the most racist southern states.
>
>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him.
>
>>”Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>demand for an investigation,” he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>”They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>organizations could have.”
>
>>Merritt’s friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge’s chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>Nashville.
>
>>”At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies – golf, tennis,
>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>universities.”
>
>>[End]
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On 18 Oct 1998 18:55:53 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay
SOBC)wanted to write what is below, but instead forged his usual
pro-JEW garbage:
>Good tip, Bill!
On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:
>
>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.
>
>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.
>
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger
>
>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is
>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
> telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>
>
>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>> answer??
>
>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>> who can be reached at:
> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>
>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>> [email protected], or
>>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
> In Message, put first line of message as:
> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
> They are waiting for your complaints
>
>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>
>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>> > letters?
>
>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>Brith’s butt.
>
>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>Canadian dollars.
>
>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>> >OyVey???
>
>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>
>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>> >Check this out!
>
>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>
>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>
>>>> The League is working closely
>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>
>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>
>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>
>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>>>>[email protected]
>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>
>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>
>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>
>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>[email protected] which contains the
>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com
>
>
>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>Canada!!!
>
>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return…. and see if it comes
>>>from anthing called “Nizkor,” or claims that it would… won’t that be
>>>fun, Bill? If you don’t get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>you’ve got me, eh?
>
>>>Please print this form and send to:
>>>The Nizkor Project
>>>c/o
>>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>>xxxxxx Street
>>>Toronto, Ontario
>
>>>Name:________________________________________
>>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>>cheque’s memo section.
>
>
>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>[#0235903-43-13]
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:04:48, [email protected] wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,
Orest Slepokura
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
The Kastner Case
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.
The Accusations
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:
I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.
Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.
I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.
We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
The Verdict
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.
The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.
The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.
The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.
Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.
Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.
The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.
The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.
The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?
The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.
The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.
The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.
One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.
Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.
This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.
Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.
In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.
The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.
The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.
The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.
It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”
Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.
If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.
But the story does not end there.
The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)
But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.
As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)
Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.
At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:
The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.
So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.
The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.
The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.
Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.
Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:
….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….
Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….
The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’
I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…
If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.
B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.
C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.
Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.
Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .
Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.
As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).
sven88
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it), my
>political views, although conservative in general, are not out of the
>range seen in the mainstream. You can call it cowardice if you want, but
>what I believe is what I believe. If somehow the more radical folks on
>this board ever came to power–heaven forbid!–I guess that I’d be the
>radical and I’d have to see how I’d react.
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On 19 Oct 1998 12:07:17 GMT, [email protected] (DeppityBob)
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach
wrote:
>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>100,000 troops.”
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>>Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>(kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>From the World According to Alex came:
>
>
>
>Don’t tell me, Fred Leuchter, right? Is this supposed to make me throw up
>again?
>
>
>Dep
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>”MY SCREENNAME IS LEGION!”
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:07:30 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:27:17 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, [email protected] (Peter
>>Mackay) wrote:
>>>In article
>>>[email protected] (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>>} Something about a “list”, wasn’t it?
>>>>Spindler’s List
>>
>>You mean Swindler’s List, or perhaps Libeler’s List??
>>
>>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>>[email protected]
>>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>>
>>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Peter James)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> I have a question:
>>
>>>>> >[snip]
>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>(PJ)
>>
>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of “Genocide” against
>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>>
>>
>>>(BR)
>>>> Essentially, yes, I was. I made and still do make the point
>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same
>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and
>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>>
>>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler’s military!!!
>>
>>article follows
>>
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, [email protected] decided
>>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>writes:
>>
>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>>
>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>>
>>Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>weren’t illegal.
>>
>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>reports to prove this!!!
>>
>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>>
>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>other references below, cited.
>>
>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>Sir,
>>>> You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>> If you’re saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>an open liar?
>>>> irgun43
>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, “Hasan”
>>>>> >Yesss!
>>
>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>>
>>>>> From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>> make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>
>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>> the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>>>> * [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>> deportations.”]
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>>>>> Or how about this?
>>
>>>>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>>>> “If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>>
>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>> generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>>
>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>> awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>
>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>> high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>> Aryan.”
>>
>>>>> Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>>>> Sources:
>>
>>>>> William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>>>> Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>> by Reuters
>>
>>>>> BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>> yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>>>> See also:
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>> served in Nazi army
>>
>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>>
>>>>> LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>>
>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>> II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>>>> “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>> exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>> whole story.]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>>>Quite. Glad we can agree on something.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>****************************************************************************************
>>>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>>>
>>>cheers, PJ
>>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:14:30, [email protected] wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:04:48, [email protected] wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,
Orest Slepokura
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
The Kastner Case
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.
The Accusations
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:
I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.
Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.
I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.
We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
The Verdict
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.
The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.
The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.
The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.
Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.
Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.
The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.
The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.
The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?
The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.
The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.
The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.
One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.
Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.
This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.
Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.
In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.
The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.
The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.
The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.
It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”
Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.
If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.
But the story does not end there.
The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)
But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.
As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)
Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.
At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:
The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.
So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.
The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.
The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.
Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.
Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:
….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….
Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….
The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’
I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…
If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.
B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.
C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.
Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.
Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .
Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.
As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).
sven88
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it), my
>political views, although conservative in general, are not out of the
>range seen in the mainstream. You can call it cowardice if you want, but
>what I believe is what I believe. If somehow the more radical folks on
>this board ever came to power–heaven forbid!–I guess that I’d be the
>radical and I’d have to see how I’d react.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:25:40 +0100, “Derek Reed”
>>>> …snipped…
>>It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
>>steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
>>privilege, n’est-ce pas??
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>If you’ve got a point to make, make it near the top, and snip the
>rest.
>Derek
For the benefit of those who want ALL the background info, here goes:
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0700, allonzo
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> …snipped…
>I have watched these fabricated allegations develop for years now.
>I arrest eh? Twenty seven charged and only one arrest. Thousands of
>pieces of mail missing,, uh huh.
> Tell us are cupw negotiating with the government on the issue of wages
>and conditions at this time.? You are what is politely called a ‘ provocateur’;
>a government creation not unknown in the internet history of newsgroups.
>The government hopes to scam millions off the backs of Canadians through
>ploys like this and others and then dump the proceeds into the laps of their
>big shot buddies.
It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
privilege, n’est-ce pas??
GET YOUR GOVERNMENT TO EMBARGO MAIL TO/FROM CANADA.
PUBLICISE THEFTS IN YOUR MEDIA.
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.
>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!
>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.
>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>THEM!!!
>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>at Canada Post include:
>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!
>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.
>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.
>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.
>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>> Carl E. Kane
>>> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?
>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:25:40 +0100, “Derek Reed”
>>>> …snipped…
>>It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
>>steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
>>privilege, n’est-ce pas??
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>If you’ve got a point to make, make it near the top, and snip the
>rest.
>Derek
For the benefit of those who want ALL the background info, here goes:
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:58:24 -0700, allonzo
>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> …snipped…
>I have watched these fabricated allegations develop for years now.
>I arrest eh? Twenty seven charged and only one arrest. Thousands of
>pieces of mail missing,, uh huh.
> Tell us are cupw negotiating with the government on the issue of wages
>and conditions at this time.? You are what is politely called a ‘ provocateur’;
>a government creation not unknown in the internet history of newsgroups.
>The government hopes to scam millions off the backs of Canadians through
>ploys like this and others and then dump the proceeds into the laps of their
>big shot buddies.
It seems that senior managers of Canada Post, who know that they can
steal YOUR mail with impunity, must be paying their directors for the
privilege, n’est-ce pas??
GET YOUR GOVERNMENT TO EMBARGO MAIL TO/FROM CANADA.
PUBLICISE THEFTS IN YOUR MEDIA.
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.
>The Court confirmed, that THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!
>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.
>>>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>>>THEM!!!
>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>>>at Canada Post include:
>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
>>> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>>>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>>>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!
>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.
>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.
>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.
>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>> Carl E. Kane
>>> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?
>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:04:48, [email protected] wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,
Orest Slepokura
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
The Kastner Case
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.
The Accusations
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:
I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.
Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.
I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.
We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
The Verdict
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.
The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.
The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.
The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.
Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.
Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.
The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.
The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.
The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?
The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.
The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.
The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.
One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.
Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.
This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.
Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.
In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.
The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.
The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.
The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.
It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”
Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.
If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.
But the story does not end there.
The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)
But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.
As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)
Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.
At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:
The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.
So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.
The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.
The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.
Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.
Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:
….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….
Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….
The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’
I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…
If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.
B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.
C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.
Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.
Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .
Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.
As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).
sven88
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it), my
>political views, although conservative in general, are not out of the
>range seen in the mainstream. You can call it cowardice if you want, but
>what I believe is what I believe. If somehow the more radical folks on
>this board ever came to power–heaven forbid!–I guess that I’d be the
>radical and I’d have to see how I’d react.
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:27:17 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, [email protected] (Peter
>>Mackay) wrote:
>>>In article
>>>[email protected] (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>>} Something about a “list”, wasn’t it?
>>>>Spindler’s List
>>
>>You mean Swindler’s List, or perhaps Libeler’s List??
>>
>>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>>[email protected]
>>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>>
>>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Peter James)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> I have a question:
>>
>>>>> >[snip]
>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>(PJ)
>>
>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of “Genocide” against
>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>>
>>
>>>(BR)
>>>> Essentially, yes, I was. I made and still do make the point
>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same
>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and
>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>>
>>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler’s military!!!
>>
>>article follows
>>
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, [email protected] decided
>>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>writes:
>>
>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>>
>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>>
>>Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>weren’t illegal.
>>
>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>reports to prove this!!!
>>
>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>>
>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>other references below, cited.
>>
>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>Sir,
>>>> You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>> If you’re saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>an open liar?
>>>> irgun43
>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, “Hasan”
>>>>> >Yesss!
>>
>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>>
>>>>> From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>> make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>
>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>> the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>>>> * [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>> deportations.”]
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>>>>> Or how about this?
>>
>>>>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>>>> “If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>>
>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>> generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>>
>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>> awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>
>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>> high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>> Aryan.”
>>
>>>>> Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>>>> Sources:
>>
>>>>> William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>>>> Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>> by Reuters
>>
>>>>> BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>> yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>>>> See also:
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>> served in Nazi army
>>
>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>>
>>>>> LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>>
>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>> II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>>>> “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>> exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>> whole story.]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>>>Quite. Glad we can agree on something.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>****************************************************************************************
>>>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>>>
>>>cheers, PJ
>>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:14:30, [email protected] wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:04:48, [email protected] wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,
Orest Slepokura
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
The Kastner Case
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.
The Accusations
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:
I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.
Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.
I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.
We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
The Verdict
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.
The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.
The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.
The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.
Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.
Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.
The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.
The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.
The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?
The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.
The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.
The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.
One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.
Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.
This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.
Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.
In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.
The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.
The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.
The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.
It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”
Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.
If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.
But the story does not end there.
The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)
But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.
As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)
Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.
At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:
The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.
So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.
The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.
The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.
Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.
Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:
….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….
Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….
The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’
I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…
If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.
B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.
C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.
Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.
Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .
Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.
As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).
sven88
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it), my
>political views, although conservative in general, are not out of the
>range seen in the mainstream. You can call it cowardice if you want, but
>what I believe is what I believe. If somehow the more radical folks on
>this board ever came to power–heaven forbid!–I guess that I’d be the
>radical and I’d have to see how I’d react.
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:15:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Peter James)
>>wrote:
>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> >> I have a question:
>>>>> >[snip]
>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>(PJ)
>
>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of “Genocide” against
>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>
>>>(BR)
>>>> Essentially, yes, I was. I made and still do make the point
>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same
>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and
>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>
>>Come to think of it, last year there was a major news story, detailing
>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler’s military!!!
>
>>article follows
>
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, [email protected] said
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>writes:
>
>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>>Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>weren’t illegal.
>
>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>
>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>other references below, cited.
>
>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>> You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>> If you’re saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>an open liar?
>>>> irgun43
>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, “Hasan”
>>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>>> From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>> make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>
>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>> the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>>>> * [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>> deportations.”]
>
>> ____________________________
>
>>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>
>>>>> “If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>> generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>
>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>> awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>
>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>> high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>> Aryan.”
>
>>>>> Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>>>> Sources:
>
>>>>> William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>>> Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>>> Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>
>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>>> BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>> yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>>>>> See also:
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>>> LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>> II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>>> “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>> exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>> whole story.]
>
>>>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>
>>>Quite. Glad we can agree on something.
>
>>>[snip]
>
>>>****************************************************************************************
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:30:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:44:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>
>
>>dddddddddd
>>below, Hermie’s cyberthrash
>>————-
>>md
>>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>
>>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>>> > ============
>>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>> > occupation of Poland. The only reason for this question at this time
>>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provacatively, Dr.
>>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>> > after the war? Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>> >
>>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitted
>>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem. However,
>>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>> > presently in Lithuania.
>>> >
>>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>> > occupation was dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>>> > They were ususally not armed,
>>>
>>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>>>
>>> > and when armed never given more than five
>>> > bullets for their long rifles. Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>> > the genocide.
>>>
>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>>>
>>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>> > service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>> > post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>> >
>>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>> > of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > closed.
>>>
>>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> longer or die now!
>>>
>>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!
>>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> >
>>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>> > Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> >
>>> > ————-
>>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki. We found
>>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>> > dozens of other places. Why you shrink from searching for your
>>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>> >
>>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>>> other people.
>>>
>>> Herman
>>> > ————
sven88
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:39:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught dealing drugs – this
>time inside a prison!!!
>
>Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>
>He is a former head of the “who’s Who in canadian Jewry”, and has been
>a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>——————————————————————————
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn.
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>together a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community.
>
> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords.
>
>”Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges.
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements.
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case.
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>writing checks to drug traffickers.
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996.
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>– the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement — through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location.
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem.
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building.”
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint.
>
>The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>– began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said.
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals — transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits.
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday’s complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them — Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder.
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made
>out to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,”
>the federal complaint said.
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries.
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>================================================================================
>The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>——————————————————————————–
> News Bureau and Archives Online
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:18:48 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:24:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————
>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>
>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>
>>>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York representatives of
>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>community.
>>>
>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>lords.
>>>
>>> “Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary Carter,
>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>charges.
>>>
>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>reporting requirements.
>>>
>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>attorney prosecuting the case.
>>>
>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>traffickers.
>>>
>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>between August 1995 and May 1996.
>>>
>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 — the amount
>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement —
>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>at the same location.
>>>
>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>
>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in Hebrew. The
>>>only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>Building.”
>>>
>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>federal complaint.
>>>
>>> The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service —
>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>officials said.
>>>
>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals —
>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>illicit drug profits.
>>>
>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday’s
>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them —
>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to have brought in large sums
>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder.
>>>
>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>>>
>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made out
>>>to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,” the
>>>federal complaint said.
>>>
>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>among the intermediaries.
>>>
>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>================================================================================
>>> The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————–
>>> News Bureau and Archives Online
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:18:49 EDT 1998
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Subject: Re: HOLOHOAX/Genocide Project- SCAM??
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 00:08:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:16:04 GMT, [email protected] gobbled, as his
>Jew masters dictated:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>> No mention of the genocides and Holocausts of the Armenians, or the
>>> attempted extermination by the Soviet Jews of the people of Ukraine!!
>
>
>On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 01:25:38 -0700 (PDT), David Dickerson
>
>
>> THE HOLOCAUST/GENOCIDE PROJECT
>
>>What Is the Holocaust/Genocide Project?
>
>>The Holocaust/Genocide Project (HGP) is an international, nonprofit,
>>telecommunications project focusing on the study of the Holocaust and other
>>genocides.
>
>No mention of the genocides and Holocausts of the Armenians, or the
>attempted extermination by the Soviet Jews of the people of Ukraine!!
>
>Seems like more Jew propaganda, as usual.
>
>Only an attempt to garner more funds for the cursed JEWS!!!
>
>
>
>
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:18:50 EDT 1998
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Homosexuality Originated With The Jews!? Deny The TORAH and Continue Homosexual Lifestyle?
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:33:40 GMT, [email protected] the jew
maggot wanted to write (instead of forging articles):
On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:01:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>in support of his jew faggot lovers:
>On 1 Jul 1998 20:49:49 GMT, [email protected] (Billy Bob
>Throckmorton) wrote:
>>In article
>>says…
>>>On 1 Jul 1998 12:17:04 GMT, Doc Tavish, hiding behind
>>
>>>>How many Jews have you ever seen denounce this filthy
>>>>lifestyle? See what I mean!?
>>
>>>ROTFL!!! Why should we denounce it?
>>
>>So you do approve what G-d has condemned? Very interesting indeed. It shows
>>why Jews have been vomited out of all the lands they have infested if one
>>is to accept the Torah!
>>
>>>It’s part of the plan to destroy the filthy, inferior ary*n race!
>>>Encouraging ary*n homosexuality (pretty easy to do, since they’re
>>>already so prone to it) helps keep the white birth rate down.
>>
>>So you are confessing now that Jews aren’t white also?
>>
>>>Every little bit helps…
>>
>>Your simple admission tells all that homosexuality comes
>>from Jews! In my studies of the Jew I have learned that the Law
>>given to Moses was for Jews only and not for the people of the
>>nations or the Goy.
>>
>>See: http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=325176411
>>
>>and
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364072939
>>Subject: The Noachide Laws
>>
>>What does G-d require from non-Jews?
>>————————————————————–
>>
>>Our sages teach us that G-d gave seven laws or commandments that are
>>binding on all humanity. The first six of these laws were given to
>>Adam. Because the last of these seven commandments was given to Noah
>>and his sons, the seven laws are collectively referred to as “the
>>Noachide Laws”, or “the Commandments of Noah’s Sons”.
>>
>>The Noachide Laws are:
>>
>>1. Not to worship idols;
>>2. Not to curse G-d;
>>3. To establish courts of justice (some say, not to pervert justice);
>>4. Not to murder;
>>5. Not to commit adultery or incest;
>>6. Not to steal;
>>7. Not to eat flesh from a living animal.
>>
>>The Oral Law (the Talmud) teaches clearly that whoever obeys these
>>seven commandments has a portion in the world to come.
>>
>> Abraham was the first person in history to publicly proclaim the
>>Noachide Laws to the masses, although there certainly were righteous
>>persons before Abraham who knew these commandments and practiced them
>>(Noah himself, to name just one).
>>
>>The Torah was given exclusively to the Jews, along with the
>>responsibility to inform the world of the universal commandments.
>>
>> ———–END————
>>
>>I guess this is why homosexual acts were mentioned in your Torah! It
>>appears you Jew boys liked buggering each other up the ass thousands of
>>years ago. If this weren’t true then why would
>>G-d have told Moses (as depicted in the Jewish Torah):
>>
>>http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
>>
>>Acharey Mot, Leviticus Chapter 18
>>
>>18 : 22 Do not lie with a male as you would with a woman, since this
>>is a disgusting perversion.
>>18 : 23 Do not perform any sexual act with an animal, since it will
>>defile you. A woman shall [likewise] not give herself to an animal and
>>allow it to mate with her. This is an utterly detestable perversion.
>>18 : 24 Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It was
>>as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away before you
>>became defiled.
>>18 : 25 The land became defiled, and when I directed My providence at
>>the sin committed there, the land vomited out its inhabitants.
>>18 : 26 You, [however,] must keep My decrees and laws, and not become
>>involved in any of these disgusting perversions – neither the native
>>born nor any foreigner who settles among you.
>>18 : 27 The people who lived in the land before you did all these
>>disgusting perversions and defiled the land.
>>18 : 28 But [you shall not cause] the land to vomit you out when you
>>defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was there before you.
>>
>>The same Torah also says:
>>Chumash References
>>Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20
>>
>>20 : 7 You must sanctify yourselves and be holy, for I am God your
>>Lord.
>>20 : 8 Safeguard My decrees and keep them, since I am God [and] I am
>>making you holy.
>>20 : 9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be
>>put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be
>>stoned to death.
>>20 : 10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is
>>the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress
>>shall be put to death.
>>20 : 11 If a man has intercourse with his father’s wife, he has
>>committed a sexual offense against his father. Therefore, both of them
>>shall be put to death by stoning.
>>20 : 12 If a man has intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of
>>them shall be put to death. Since they have committed an utterly
>>detestable perversion, they shall be stoned to death.
>>20 : 13 If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner
>>as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion.
>>They shall be put to death by stoning.
>>
>>>BTW, for information on rampant homosexuality amongst your
>>>ary*n “heroes:” see “The Pink Swatstika:”
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~lively/
>>
>>I could care less but Jeffrey Georg Brown may be interested.
>>I hope and pray that America “vomits” out its filth soon as well!
>>You all will not be missed!
>>
>> Billy Bob
>>
>>> Bob Alpert * balpert “at” netaxs.com * Author of the Jewish Conspiracy
>sven88
>
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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roger’s Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>> Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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Subject: JEW NAZIS! Not only in Australia!!!
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:27:17 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, [email protected] (Peter
>>Mackay) wrote:
>>>In article
>>>[email protected] (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>>} Something about a “list”, wasn’t it?
>>>>Spindler’s List
>>
>>You mean Swindler’s List, or perhaps Libeler’s List??
>>
>>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>>[email protected]
>>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>>
>>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Peter James)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> I have a question:
>>
>>>>> >[snip]
>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>(PJ)
>>
>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of “Genocide” against
>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>>
>>
>>>(BR)
>>>> Essentially, yes, I was. I made and still do make the point
>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same
>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and
>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>>
>>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler’s military!!!
>>
>>article follows
>>
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, [email protected] decided
>>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>writes:
>>
>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>>
>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>>
>>Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>weren’t illegal.
>>
>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>reports to prove this!!!
>>
>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>>
>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>other references below, cited.
>>
>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>Sir,
>>>> You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>> If you’re saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>an open liar?
>>>> irgun43
>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, “Hasan”
>>>>> >Yesss!
>>
>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>>
>>>>> From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>> make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>
>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>> the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>>>> * [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>> deportations.”]
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>>>>> Or how about this?
>>
>>>>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>>>> “If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>>
>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>> generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>>
>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>> awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>
>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>> high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>> Aryan.”
>>
>>>>> Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>>>> Sources:
>>
>>>>> William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>>>> Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>> by Reuters
>>
>>>>> BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>> yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>>>> See also:
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>> served in Nazi army
>>
>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>>
>>>>> LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>>
>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>> II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>>>> “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>> exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>> whole story.]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>>>Quite. Glad we can agree on something.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>****************************************************************************************
>>>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>>>
>>>cheers, PJ
>>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:20:09 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:15:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Peter James)
>>wrote:
>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> >> I have a question:
>>>>> >[snip]
>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>(PJ)
>
>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of “Genocide” against
>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>
>>>(BR)
>>>> Essentially, yes, I was. I made and still do make the point
>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same
>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and
>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>
>>Come to think of it, last year there was a major news story, detailing
>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler’s military!!!
>
>>article follows
>
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, [email protected] said
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>writes:
>
>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>>Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>weren’t illegal.
>
>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>
>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>other references below, cited.
>
>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>> You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>> If you’re saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>an open liar?
>>>> irgun43
>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, “Hasan”
>>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>>> From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>> make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>
>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>> the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>>>> * [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>> deportations.”]
>
>> ____________________________
>
>>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>
>>>>> “If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>> generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>
>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>> awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>
>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>> high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>> Aryan.”
>
>>>>> Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>>>> Sources:
>
>>>>> William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>>> Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>>> Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>
>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>>> BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>> yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>>>>> See also:
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>>> LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>> II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>>> “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>> exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>> whole story.]
>
>>>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>
>>>Quite. Glad we can agree on something.
>
>>>[snip]
>
>>>****************************************************************************************
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:20:21 EDT 1998
Article: 27581 of soc.culture.swiss
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Subject: Israel’s Paradox: Zionist =Nazi Ideology
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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Article: 27582 of soc.culture.swiss
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:27:17 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, [email protected] (Peter
>>Mackay) wrote:
>>>In article
>>>[email protected] (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>>} Something about a “list”, wasn’t it?
>>>>Spindler’s List
>>
>>You mean Swindler’s List, or perhaps Libeler’s List??
>>
>>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>>[email protected]
>>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>>
>>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Peter James)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> I have a question:
>>
>>>>> >[snip]
>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>(PJ)
>>
>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of “Genocide” against
>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>>
>>
>>>(BR)
>>>> Essentially, yes, I was. I made and still do make the point
>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same
>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and
>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>>
>>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler’s military!!!
>>
>>article follows
>>
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, [email protected] decided
>>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>writes:
>>
>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>>
>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>>
>>Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>weren’t illegal.
>>
>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>reports to prove this!!!
>>
>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>>
>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>other references below, cited.
>>
>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>Sir,
>>>> You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>> If you’re saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>an open liar?
>>>> irgun43
>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, “Hasan”
>>>>> >Yesss!
>>
>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>>
>>>>> From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>> make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>
>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>> the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>>>> * [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>> deportations.”]
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>>>>> Or how about this?
>>
>>>>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>>>> “If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>>
>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>> generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>>
>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>> awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>
>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>> high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>> Aryan.”
>>
>>>>> Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>>>> Sources:
>>
>>>>> William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>>>> Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>> by Reuters
>>
>>>>> BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>> yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>>>> See also:
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>> served in Nazi army
>>
>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>>
>>>>> LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>>
>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>> II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>>>> “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>> exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>> whole story.]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>>>Quite. Glad we can agree on something.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>****************************************************************************************
>>>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>>>
>>>cheers, PJ
>>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:20:22 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:15:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Peter James)
>>wrote:
>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> >> I have a question:
>>>>> >[snip]
>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>(PJ)
>
>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of “Genocide” against
>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>
>>>(BR)
>>>> Essentially, yes, I was. I made and still do make the point
>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same
>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and
>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>
>>Come to think of it, last year there was a major news story, detailing
>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler’s military!!!
>
>>article follows
>
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, [email protected] said
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>writes:
>
>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>>Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>weren’t illegal.
>
>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>
>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>other references below, cited.
>
>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>> You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>> If you’re saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>an open liar?
>>>> irgun43
>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, “Hasan”
>>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>>> From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>> make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>
>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>> the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>>>> * [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>> deportations.”]
>
>> ____________________________
>
>>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>
>>>>> “If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>> generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>
>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>> awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>
>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>> high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>> Aryan.”
>
>>>>> Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>>>> Sources:
>
>>>>> William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>>> Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>>> Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>
>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>>> BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>> yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>>>>> See also:
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>>> LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>> II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>>> “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>> exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>> whole story.]
>
>>>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>
>>>Quite. Glad we can agree on something.
>
>>>[snip]
>
>>>****************************************************************************************
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:39:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught dealing drugs – this
>time inside a prison!!!
>
>Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>
>He is a former head of the “who’s Who in canadian Jewry”, and has been
>a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>——————————————————————————
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn.
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>together a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community.
>
> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords.
>
>”Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges.
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements.
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case.
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>writing checks to drug traffickers.
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996.
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>– the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement — through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location.
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem.
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building.”
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint.
>
>The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>– began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said.
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals — transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits.
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday’s complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them — Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder.
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made
>out to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,”
>the federal complaint said.
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries.
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>================================================================================
>The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>——————————————————————————–
> News Bureau and Archives Online
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:24:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————
>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>
>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>
>>>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York representatives of
>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>community.
>>>
>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>lords.
>>>
>>> “Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary Carter,
>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>charges.
>>>
>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>reporting requirements.
>>>
>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>attorney prosecuting the case.
>>>
>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>traffickers.
>>>
>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>between August 1995 and May 1996.
>>>
>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 — the amount
>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement —
>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>at the same location.
>>>
>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>
>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in Hebrew. The
>>>only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>Building.”
>>>
>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>federal complaint.
>>>
>>> The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service —
>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>officials said.
>>>
>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals —
>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>illicit drug profits.
>>>
>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday’s
>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them —
>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to have brought in large sums
>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder.
>>>
>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>>>
>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made out
>>>to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,” the
>>>federal complaint said.
>>>
>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>among the intermediaries.
>>>
>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>================================================================================
>>> The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————–
>>> News Bureau and Archives Online
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 00:08:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:16:04 GMT, [email protected] gobbled, as his
>Jew masters dictated:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>> No mention of the genocides and Holocausts of the Armenians, or the
>>> attempted extermination by the Soviet Jews of the people of Ukraine!!
>
>
>On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 01:25:38 -0700 (PDT), David Dickerson
>
>
>> THE HOLOCAUST/GENOCIDE PROJECT
>
>>What Is the Holocaust/Genocide Project?
>
>>The Holocaust/Genocide Project (HGP) is an international, nonprofit,
>>telecommunications project focusing on the study of the Holocaust and other
>>genocides.
>
>No mention of the genocides and Holocausts of the Armenians, or the
>attempted extermination by the Soviet Jews of the people of Ukraine!!
>
>Seems like more Jew propaganda, as usual.
>
>Only an attempt to garner more funds for the cursed JEWS!!!
>
>
>
>
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:20:26 EDT 1998
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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roger’s Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>> Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:27:17 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, [email protected] (Peter
>>Mackay) wrote:
>>>In article
>>>[email protected] (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>>} Something about a “list”, wasn’t it?
>>>>Spindler’s List
>>
>>You mean Swindler’s List, or perhaps Libeler’s List??
>>
>>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>>[email protected]
>>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>>
>>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Peter James)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> I have a question:
>>
>>>>> >[snip]
>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>(PJ)
>>
>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of “Genocide” against
>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>>
>>
>>>(BR)
>>>> Essentially, yes, I was. I made and still do make the point
>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same
>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and
>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>>
>>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler’s military!!!
>>
>>article follows
>>
>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, [email protected] decided
>>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>>
>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>writes:
>>
>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>>
>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>>
>>Christ was legally executed by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>weren’t illegal.
>>
>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>reports to prove this!!!
>>
>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>>
>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>other references below, cited.
>>
>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>>Sir,
>>>> You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>> If you’re saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>an open liar?
>>>> irgun43
>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, “Hasan”
>>>>> >Yesss!
>>
>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>>
>>>>> From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>> make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>
>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>> the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>>>> * [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>> deportations.”]
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>>>>> Or how about this?
>>
>>>>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>>>> “If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>>
>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>> generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>>
>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>> awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>
>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>> high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>> Aryan.”
>>
>>>>> Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>>>> Sources:
>>
>>>>> William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>>>> Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>> by Reuters
>>
>>>>> BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>> yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>>>> See also:
>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>> served in Nazi army
>>
>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>>
>>>>> LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>>
>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>> II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>>>> “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>> exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>> whole story.]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>>>Quite. Glad we can agree on something.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>****************************************************************************************
>>>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>>>
>>>cheers, PJ
>>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:30:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:44:20 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>
>
>>dddddddddd
>>below, Hermie’s cyberthrash
>>————-
>>md
>>
>>[email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>
>>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>>> > ============
>>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>> > occupation of Poland. The only reason for this question at this time
>>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered. Provacatively, Dr.
>>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>> > after the war? Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>> >
>>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk). He admitted
>>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem. However,
>>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>> > presently in Lithuania.
>>> >
>>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>> > occupation was dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>>> > They were ususally not armed,
>>>
>>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>>>
>>> > and when armed never given more than five
>>> > bullets for their long rifles. Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>> > the genocide.
>>>
>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski’s story too.
>>>
>>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>> > service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>> > post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>> >
>>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>> > of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > closed.
>>>
>>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> longer or die now!
>>>
>>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!
>>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> >
>>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>> > Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> >
>>> > ————-
>>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki. We found
>>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>> > dozens of other places. Why you shrink from searching for your
>>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>> >
>>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>>> other people.
>>>
>>> Herman
>>> > ————
sven88
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:39:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught dealing drugs – this
>time inside a prison!!!
>
>Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>
>He is a former head of the “who’s Who in canadian Jewry”, and has been
>a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>——————————————————————————
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn.
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>together a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community.
>
> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords.
>
>”Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges.
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements.
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case.
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>writing checks to drug traffickers.
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996.
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>– the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement — through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location.
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem.
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building.”
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint.
>
>The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>– began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said.
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals — transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits.
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday’s complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them — Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder.
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made
>out to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,”
>the federal complaint said.
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries.
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>================================================================================
>The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>——————————————————————————–
> News Bureau and Archives Online
From [email protected] Tue Oct 20 18:21:05 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:24:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————
>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>
>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>
>>>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York representatives of
>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>community.
>>>
>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>lords.
>>>
>>> “Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary Carter,
>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>charges.
>>>
>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>reporting requirements.
>>>
>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>attorney prosecuting the case.
>>>
>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>traffickers.
>>>
>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>between August 1995 and May 1996.
>>>
>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 — the amount
>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement —
>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>at the same location.
>>>
>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>
>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in Hebrew. The
>>>only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>Building.”
>>>
>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>federal complaint.
>>>
>>> The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service —
>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>officials said.
>>>
>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals —
>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>illicit drug profits.
>>>
>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday’s
>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them —
>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to have brought in large sums
>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder.
>>>
>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>>>
>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made out
>>>to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,” the
>>>federal complaint said.
>>>
>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>among the intermediaries.
>>>
>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>================================================================================
>>> The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————–
>>> News Bureau and Archives Online
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 00:08:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:16:04 GMT, [email protected] gobbled, as his
>Jew masters dictated:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>> No mention of the genocides and Holocausts of the Armenians, or the
>>> attempted extermination by the Soviet Jews of the people of Ukraine!!
>
>
>On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 01:25:38 -0700 (PDT), David Dickerson
>
>
>> THE HOLOCAUST/GENOCIDE PROJECT
>
>>What Is the Holocaust/Genocide Project?
>
>>The Holocaust/Genocide Project (HGP) is an international, nonprofit,
>>telecommunications project focusing on the study of the Holocaust and other
>>genocides.
>
>No mention of the genocides and Holocausts of the Armenians, or the
>attempted extermination by the Soviet Jews of the people of Ukraine!!
>
>Seems like more Jew propaganda, as usual.
>
>Only an attempt to garner more funds for the cursed JEWS!!!
>
>
>
>
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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>>
>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:04:48, [email protected] wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,
Orest Slepokura
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
The Kastner Case
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.
The Accusations
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:
I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.
Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.
I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.
We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
The Verdict
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.
The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.
The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.
The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.
Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.
Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.
The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.
The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.
The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?
The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.
The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.
The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.
One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.
Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.
This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.
Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.
In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.
The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.
The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.
The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.
It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”
Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.
If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.
But the story does not end there.
The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)
But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.
As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)
Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.
At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:
The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.
So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.
The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.
The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.
Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.
Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:
….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….
Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….
The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’
I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…
If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.
B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.
C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.
Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.
Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .
Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.
As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).
sven88
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it), my
>political views, although conservative in general, are not out of the
>range seen in the mainstream. You can call it cowardice if you want, but
>what I believe is what I believe. If somehow the more radical folks on
>this board ever came to power–heaven forbid!–I guess that I’d be the
>radical and I’d have to see how I’d react.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:14:30, [email protected] wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:04:48, [email protected] wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,
Orest Slepokura
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
The Kastner Case
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.
The Accusations
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:
I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.
Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.
I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.
We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
The Verdict
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.
The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.
The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.
The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.
Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.
Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.
The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.
The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.
The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?
The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.
The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.
The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.
One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.
Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.
This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.
Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.
In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.
The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.
The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.
The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.
It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”
Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.
If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.
But the story does not end there.
The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)
But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.
As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)
Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.
At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:
The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.
So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.
The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.
The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.
Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.
Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:
….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….
Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….
The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’
I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…
If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.
B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.
C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.
Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.
Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .
Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.
As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).
sven88
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending upon how you look at it), my
>political views, although conservative in general, are not out of the
>range seen in the mainstream. You can call it cowardice if you want, but
>what I believe is what I believe. If somehow the more radical folks on
>this board ever came to power–heaven forbid!–I guess that I’d be the
>radical and I’d have to see how I’d react.
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Subject: Re: Homosexuality Originated With The Jews!? Deny The TORAH and Continue Homosexual Lifestyle?
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:33:40 GMT, [email protected] the jew
maggot wanted to write (instead of forging articles):
On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:18 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:01:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>in support of his jew faggot lovers:
>On 1 Jul 1998 20:49:49 GMT, [email protected] (Billy Bob
>Throckmorton) wrote:
>>In article
>>says…
>>>On 1 Jul 1998 12:17:04 GMT, Doc Tavish, hiding behind
>>
>>>>How many Jews have you ever seen denounce this filthy
>>>>lifestyle? See what I mean!?
>>
>>>ROTFL!!! Why should we denounce it?
>>
>>So you do approve what G-d has condemned? Very interesting indeed. It shows
>>why Jews have been vomited out of all the lands they have infested if one
>>is to accept the Torah!
>>
>>>It’s part of the plan to destroy the filthy, inferior ary*n race!
>>>Encouraging ary*n homosexuality (pretty easy to do, since they’re
>>>already so prone to it) helps keep the white birth rate down.
>>
>>So you are confessing now that Jews aren’t white also?
>>
>>>Every little bit helps…
>>
>>Your simple admission tells all that homosexuality comes
>>from Jews! In my studies of the Jew I have learned that the Law
>>given to Moses was for Jews only and not for the people of the
>>nations or the Goy.
>>
>>See: http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=325176411
>>
>>and
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364072939
>>Subject: The Noachide Laws
>>
>>What does G-d require from non-Jews?
>>————————————————————–
>>
>>Our sages teach us that G-d gave seven laws or commandments that are
>>binding on all humanity. The first six of these laws were given to
>>Adam. Because the last of these seven commandments was given to Noah
>>and his sons, the seven laws are collectively referred to as “the
>>Noachide Laws”, or “the Commandments of Noah’s Sons”.
>>
>>The Noachide Laws are:
>>
>>1. Not to worship idols;
>>2. Not to curse G-d;
>>3. To establish courts of justice (some say, not to pervert justice);
>>4. Not to murder;
>>5. Not to commit adultery or incest;
>>6. Not to steal;
>>7. Not to eat flesh from a living animal.
>>
>>The Oral Law (the Talmud) teaches clearly that whoever obeys these
>>seven commandments has a portion in the world to come.
>>
>> Abraham was the first person in history to publicly proclaim the
>>Noachide Laws to the masses, although there certainly were righteous
>>persons before Abraham who knew these commandments and practiced them
>>(Noah himself, to name just one).
>>
>>The Torah was given exclusively to the Jews, along with the
>>responsibility to inform the world of the universal commandments.
>>
>> ———–END————
>>
>>I guess this is why homosexual acts were mentioned in your Torah! It
>>appears you Jew boys liked buggering each other up the ass thousands of
>>years ago. If this weren’t true then why would
>>G-d have told Moses (as depicted in the Jewish Torah):
>>
>>http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
>>
>>Acharey Mot, Leviticus Chapter 18
>>
>>18 : 22 Do not lie with a male as you would with a woman, since this
>>is a disgusting perversion.
>>18 : 23 Do not perform any sexual act with an animal, since it will
>>defile you. A woman shall [likewise] not give herself to an animal and
>>allow it to mate with her. This is an utterly detestable perversion.
>>18 : 24 Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It was
>>as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away before you
>>became defiled.
>>18 : 25 The land became defiled, and when I directed My providence at
>>the sin committed there, the land vomited out its inhabitants.
>>18 : 26 You, [however,] must keep My decrees and laws, and not become
>>involved in any of these disgusting perversions – neither the native
>>born nor any foreigner who settles among you.
>>18 : 27 The people who lived in the land before you did all these
>>disgusting perversions and defiled the land.
>>18 : 28 But [you shall not cause] the land to vomit you out when you
>>defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was there before you.
>>
>>The same Torah also says:
>>Chumash References
>>Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20
>>
>>20 : 7 You must sanctify yourselves and be holy, for I am God your
>>Lord.
>>20 : 8 Safeguard My decrees and keep them, since I am God [and] I am
>>making you holy.
>>20 : 9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be
>>put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be
>>stoned to death.
>>20 : 10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is
>>the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress
>>shall be put to death.
>>20 : 11 If a man has intercourse with his father’s wife, he has
>>committed a sexual offense against his father. Therefore, both of them
>>shall be put to death by stoning.
>>20 : 12 If a man has intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of
>>them shall be put to death. Since they have committed an utterly
>>detestable perversion, they shall be stoned to death.
>>20 : 13 If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner
>>as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion.
>>They shall be put to death by stoning.
>>
>>>BTW, for information on rampant homosexuality amongst your
>>>ary*n “heroes:” see “The Pink Swatstika:”
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~lively/
>>
>>I could care less but Jeffrey Georg Brown may be interested.
>>I hope and pray that America “vomits” out its filth soon as well!
>>You all will not be missed!
>>
>> Billy Bob
>>
>>> Bob Alpert * balpert “at” netaxs.com * Author of the Jewish Conspiracy
>sven88
>
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:42:53 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,
>
>Orest Slepokura
>…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…
>
>Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>
>The Kastner Case
>
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
>about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
>money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>
> The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>silence.
>
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
>number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations.
>
>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>not too high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
>group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
> The Verdict
>
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully.
>
>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
>to Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>mislead the Jews.
>
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs
>.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>Jews.
>
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan.
>
>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>on the other hand.
>
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>’new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
>overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
>moment the good intention of good Becher’.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>affidavit given in favor of a war
>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements.”
>
>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
>his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
>1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>
>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>criminal libel.
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
>appeal filed.
>
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>
>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>’fully rehabilitated’.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>’fully rehabilitated’.
>
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>’collaboration’.
>
>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>Kastner. They joined him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>Jewish community.
>
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>many or should he disclose
>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>leadership both from a moral and public point of view…
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>what was known to them and did not warn
>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.
>
>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>Silberg:
>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>judgements on the guilt of others….
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>result.’
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>thousands would have been able
>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>to a claim of such good faith…
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>
>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>occupation.
>
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>proof of evidence for this.
>
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>of events it throws retroactive
>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>on trial .
>
>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>’rehabilitating’ him was delivered.
>
>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>’fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>murder trial).
>
>
>sven88
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On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:26:09 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven’t.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, [email protected]>not.awww….
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>>
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those ‘oonga boonga’ mere
>>
>>
>>Shouldn’t that be “Oingo Boingo”?
>>
>>Doesn’t Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of
>>”Be careful who you hate, because you’ll end up being just like them”.
>>
>>They’re behaving like Nazi’s in Palestine (let’s call it by it’s real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn’t one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?…).
>>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli’s are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!. WHO DON’T WORK. WHO DON’T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE. WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>>
>>And while we’re here, Don’t the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>now? I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>
>>AAhhhhh…….. Religion, even when it’s the SAME GOD, there’s still
>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>it.
>>
>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.
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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>
>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>
>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>involved.
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (William
>Markiewicz) wrote:
>
>>
>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>sperati wrote:
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>> —————————————————————————
>>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
>>
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
>>
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
>>
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
>>
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>>
>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 07:29:02, Ed Kadach
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>chortled…
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 05:09:48, Ed Kadach
On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
>
>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.
>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:
>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.
>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger
>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>Nothing new here.
>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!
>>Definitely not a charity.
Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!
They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829
>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>
>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??
>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>> They are waiting for your complaints
> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions
> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?
>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.
>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.
> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???
>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>Check this out!
>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.
> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.
>>That is putting it “lightly”.
> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>[email protected] which contains the
>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com
>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>Please print this form and send to:
>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]
>Attention:CHARITIES
>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
> Hearing yet another kike religious supremacist
>going on about German National Socialists between
>1933-1945 prompts the question:
> When did the British Labour Party first know
>about the systematic murder of 50+ MILLION Russians
>and Ukrainians by Soviet libruls between 1917-1959?
sven88
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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:24:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, [email protected]
>(Gunther Schiller) wrote:
>
>>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>[ … ]
>>
>>From: [email protected] (BillBrtn)
>>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>>References: <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: An observation
>>
>>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Gunther, Mr. Schiller, Droogie, Jerry, A White, etc etc…
>>
>>>>. I am actually a Jew named Saul Rabinowicz
>>>>and I run Champions Bagelry in Rosenberg, Texas.
>>
>>>Checked the phone book. No such person, place. Therefore, for starters,
>>>you are a liar.
>>
>>Look at the above Bill! Who’s the liar? You don’t know me too well to
>>not know when I am speaking tongue in cheek to a person such as you!
>>So now you are stalking me too? Shame on you naughty anti-Arab bigot.
>>
>>>> You don’t have to
>>>>be a Gentile to dislike the majority of Jews
>>
>>>You don’t know the majority of Jews. In fact you may not know any.
>>
>>I know the ones on USENET and most of them I wouldn’t fart in their
>>face if they were in need of artificial respiration.
>>
>>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>>reach.
>>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler’s inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>>
>>Wanna bet o’ clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>>
>>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>he was a specialist in aerial photography–
>>
>>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>>
>>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
>>book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
>>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
>>* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>deportations.”]
>>
>> ____________________________
>>
>>Or how about this?
>>
>> Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>
>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>speaking of World War Two.
>>
>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
>>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>knowledge and approval.
>>
>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
>>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”
>>
>>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.
>>
>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
>>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>Aryan.”
>>
>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>
>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>
>>Sources:
>>
>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>> ———————————-
>>
>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>
>>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>
>>by Reuters
>>
>>BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>
>>See also:
>>
>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>
>>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>served in Nazi army
>>
>>by William D. Montalbano
>>Los Angeles Times
>>
>>LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
>>of Holocaust history.
>>
>>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>”Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
>>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>whole story.]
>>
>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>> ———————————-
>>
>>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>>
>>>You tell me.
>>
>>No, they did not!
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, [email protected]
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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From [email protected] Thu Oct 22 14:18:59 EDT 1998
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Hitler’s Jew Army
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:43:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>
>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>100,000 troops.”
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>and who is an Aryan.”
>
>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>(kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:20:47 +1000, Grant Watson
wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> >Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>> >communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>> >want to generate more?
>Please explain to me the concept of “Jew communism”…..
Hopefully the article following is enough, or do you want more?
The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>who established the Soviet secret police.
>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>Clancy wrote:
>> “Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.”
>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>> Top Jewish Communists
>> Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>> massacre of the Czar’s family–women and children–in the town named after
>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>> the murderer).
>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>> squad which carried out Sverdlov’s order for the murder of the Czar’s
>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar’s daughters. The
>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>> sentiment.
>> Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>> the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>> “Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts.”
>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin’s mistress; sister of
>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>> Sea–Baltic Canal.
>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>> Police.
>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>> peasants in Spain.
>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov (“Yankel”) Kreiser:
>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>> “insurance policy” extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein’s Bezhin
>> Meadow).
>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>> Julius Rosenwald.
>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>> ‘Holocaust’ Museum.
>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin’s top Tass
>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier’s wrists was removed in the negative
>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin’s chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin’s enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>> member of the Central Committee.
>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>> Stalin’s chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun’s eventual successor was Matyas
>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews “…played key roles
>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime’s top five leaders were Jews. ”
>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>> People’s Army. Tito’s top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People’s
>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman and commissars Minc, Specht
>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, “In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security…the chief of
>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>> heads were Jews.” Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>> like : (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>> Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>> ROMAN WERLF.
>> LEON KASMAN,
>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>> In Poland, “…a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>> vigorously than any other Polish party…Jewish Communists reached their
>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>> abhorred anti-Semitism.” (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>> raised.
>> “The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>> powerful men in the country–Berman and Minc–were both Jewish as was
>> the dreaded security official Rozanski.”
>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>> Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>> Dubinsky: Stalin’s ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>> Mark Zborowski: “…considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>> have been the most fearsome…(Soviet) spy of all time” (Stephen Schwartz,
>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. “The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>> and Monsieur Etienne” by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>> 1992).
>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, “one of its foremost intellectuals”( London
>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC’s terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. (“Joe Slovo,” Jewish
>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>> Slovo had been the ” planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>> others… Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday…Slovo is a dedicated
>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed…Slovo
>> disputes little of his image as ‘the Communist mastermind’ behind the ANC’s
>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa’s whites are both a
>> measure of the ANC’s growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. ‘Revolutionary violence has
>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>> the ANC its leading position,’ Slovo said.” (“Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>> Apartheid,” L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela’s ANC
>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>> “…The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>> whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>> country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>> world-wide social revolution.”
>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>> “Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>> Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>> with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>> is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS.”
>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>> “The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>> brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>> is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order – sound
>> familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>> thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>> and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>> mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”
>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>> “Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>> half-converted believers dream to vanquish the “Truthful” and the
>> faithful of their own creed … who had gathered around the Red
>> Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>> guidance of those experienced officers of all latter – day
>> revolutions – the Jews?”
>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>> 414 New York (1937):
>> “If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>> Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed”
>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>> “…there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>> that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>> Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>> Judaism.”
>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>> “The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>> fundamentals of Judaism.”
>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>> “Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>> which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>> propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>> fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>> dominated by them from the beginning …. There is no moral,
>> philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>> Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>> to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>> originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>> Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>> his “keen dialectical ability” (as presumably manifested by his
>> abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>> inheritance …. Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>> merely “streamlined” talmudism for Gentile consumption…”
>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>> “We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God’s
>> Chosen People – what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>> world’s seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>> executioners.”
>> Bernard Lazare, in his “L’Anti-semitisme” p.350 wrote:
>> “The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>> destroys … faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>> idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>> he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>> religion of (Jesus) Christ.”
>> “There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.”
>> On Feb. 8, 1920 the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>> “In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>> Jewesses.
>> “The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>> “…The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with vil