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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:12:53, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You
>>can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>>of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

sven88

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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:39:09, The Rottnest Quokka
wanted to write:

On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:59:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. 🙂
>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven’t.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! 🙂 I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps. 🙂
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, [email protected]>not.awww….
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>>
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those ‘oonga boonga’ mere
>>
>>
>>Shouldn’t that be “Oingo Boingo”?
>>
>>Doesn’t Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of
>>”Be careful who you hate, because you’ll end up being just like them”.
>>
>>They’re behaving like Nazi’s in Palestine (let’s call it by it’s real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn’t one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?…).
>>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli’s are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!. WHO DON’T WORK. WHO DON’T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE. WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>>
>>And while we’re here, Don’t the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>now? I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>
>>AAhhhhh…….. Religion, even when it’s the SAME GOD, there’s still
>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>it.
>>
>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.

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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:30:35, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

sven88
>When Dachau fell into Western hands in 1945, it had to look
>the part, so, under the inspiration of Philip Auerbach, Under-
>Secretary of State in the provincial government of Bavaria,
>it was transformed into a showplace of horrors.
>
>Near the entrance stood a big fir tree with a horizontal
>bough. On the orders of American Captain Strauss,
>German prisoners of war worked the bough with ropes to
>damage the bark. Auerbach then proclaimed it the “Hanging
>Tree,” and said that 10,000 Jews had been hung on its bough.
>
>The workers received orders to dig a blood-pit with a drain
>pipe for draining off the blood, because it must be made to appear
>that here Jewish blood had been flowing in streams. The shower-
>baths, dressing rooms and reception halls had to be rebuilt so that they
>should appear like gas-chambers. For the sake of achieving this
>appearance, a special separate concrete structure was built
>with small porthole-like openings, and these contraptions are
>still on show today (1958-rb) purporting to demonstrate that the killing
>”death gas” was let in through these portholes.”
>
>…Jews converted this camp into a chamber of horrors……
>
>
>Comment: Sounds just like Hollywood, doesn’t it? The only
>thing missing is Jamie Lee…..
>

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:09:47 +0200, “Rob” wrote:

>siedzialem na dembie i dlobalem w zebie
>a ludziska glopie
>myslaly ze ze w d…….
>
>kaczki tez
>
>kochajmy sie baranie

On 13 Oct 1998 03:36:24 GMT,(Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:00:36 -0400, wrote:
>Hey Warr,

>Get some new material. Fran Dresher you aint. Henny Youngman could do better
>sleepwalking.

On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:00:54 +0200, “Rob” wrote:

>You are right!!!

On 10 Oct 1998 18:46:42 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

JEWISH JOKES

How was copper wiring invented?
Two Jews fighting over a penny!

How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
They put parking meters on the roof!

Why is money green?
Because Jews pick it before it’s ripe!

What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
Jew Jew Beans… Although I heard he enjoyed them “roasted!”

If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
A fur coat!

Why don’t Jews eat pork?
They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they’re not!

Why aren’t Jews attacked by sharks?
Professional courtesy!

Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
Let one in, and he’ll keep the rest out.

What’s the Jewish version of foreplay?
Half an hour of begging.

How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
She’s the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!

Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!

What’s the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!

Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
Someone dropped a quarter!

Why do Jews have such big noses?
Because air is free.

What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
an
affair?
Who catered it?

What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
He breaks his nose.

What’s a Jewish dilemma?
Free ham.

What’s the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
Nail polish.

What’s the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
An elephant eventually forgets.

A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
way,
when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
rubbed it, a
Jewish genie appeared. “I’ll give you two wishes,” quipped
the genie. “Far out,” said the black man. “First, I want to be white,
uptight,
and out of sight!” Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
story:
You can’t get anything from a Jew without strings
attached!

How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
Marry her!

Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
They want 20% off everything!

What’s the difference between between karate and judo?
Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.

What’s the definition of a queer Jew?
Someone that likes girls more then money.

What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
A WHINE cellar.

Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.

What’s the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
A vulture waits until you’re dead to eat your heart out!

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On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, “WaRR”
wrote:

>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>oil of no lay!!

>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle’s creed was
>what fought rocky balboa.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>a toilet doesn’t follow you around for 9 months after you use it.

>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>it’s called well i’ll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman’s waterbed?
>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.

>=how was copper wire invented?
> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.

>=why are jewish men circumcised?
> because jewish women won’t buy anything unless it’s 20% off.

>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>a girl.

>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>a computer that never goes down on you.
>=what’s a jewish british princess’ favorite wine?
> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>she drops her nail file.

>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.

>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>because they can sell it again and again and again.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>jello moves when you eat it.

>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>she makes him beg for an hour.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>british princess?
>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.

>=what’s the difference between jews and canoes?
>canoes tip. ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))

>=what’s the difference between jews and pizzas?
>pizzas don’t scream when you put them in the oven.

>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>free ham.

>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>a cash register.

>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.

>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>he only took tips.

>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.

>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>replied, “i’d draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>the other to me.” the minister replied, “i’d draw a circle in
>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>outside for me.” the rabbi’s answer was, he wouldn’t draw any
>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.

>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they’re
>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. “ok,” he says,
>”but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>if you don’t, you go straight to hell.” after agreeing, they find
>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>blocks down they pass a pizza store. “i can’t help myself!” says the
>italian… he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. “i can’t
>help myself!” he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>homosexual disappears.

>yours truly

>WaRR
-88-

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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

sven88

From [email protected] Fri Oct 16 15:10:26 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:30:35, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

sven88

From [email protected] Fri Oct 16 15:10:31 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

sven88

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:39:09, [email protected] wrote:

>Readers are reminded that there is in fact no such
>organization as the “American Fascist Union”. All
>posts claiming to be from the “American Fascist Union”
>are in fact posted to Usenet by the same individual who
>was for some time using the name “Karl Zimmer”. This
>individual is most likely an operative of Nizkor.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 16 15:10:33 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:12:53, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

sven88

From [email protected] Fri Oct 16 15:10:37 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:30:35, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

From [email protected] Fri Oct 16 15:10:39 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:34:04, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

sven88

From [email protected] Sat Oct 17 05:46:26 EDT 1998
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:58:52, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
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>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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