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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:15:04 GMT, [email protected] (Tony Hancock)
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:51:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>perhaps ON should do similar??

>One Nation is an Australian issue and braindead Canadian usenet
>sock-puppet fetshists like you should just mind your own bloody
>business,

>Sure Liebler is a f*ckwit,
>Tony Hancock

On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. πŸ™‚
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?

>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.

>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?

>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)

>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,

>>They haven’t.

>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.

>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.

>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.

>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?

>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)

>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)

>>>David Maddison

>>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚

>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.

>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.

>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)

>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.

>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.

>>Harold.

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On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:59:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. πŸ™‚
>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven’t.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, [email protected]>not.awww….
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>>
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those ‘oonga boonga’ mere
>>
>>
>>Shouldn’t that be “Oingo Boingo”?
>>
>>Doesn’t Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of
>>”Be careful who you hate, because you’ll end up being just like them”.
>>
>>They’re behaving like Nazi’s in Palestine (let’s call it by it’s real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn’t one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?…).
>>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli’s are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!. WHO DON’T WORK. WHO DON’T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE. WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>>
>>And while we’re here, Don’t the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>now? I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>
>>AAhhhhh…….. Religion, even when it’s the SAME GOD, there’s still
>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>it.
>>
>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.

From [email protected] Mon Oct 12 23:46:49 EDT 1998
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Subject: Dragon Fly = Anticommunist,anti Zionist??
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It seems that a certain unpleasant ethnicity just does not like people
to think, and to ponder about the effect that JEWS have had on recent
history.

They do not want people to remember that the Soviet Union, and damned
communism is a JEW philosophy, propounded by Marx (not Harpo) and
Engerls.

They do not want you remembering that more than 100 million people
have died this century because of JEW communism.

They do not want you remembering that it was a Polish JEW Felix
Dzerzhinski who established the Soviet secret Police, now remembered
as CHEKA,NKVD and KGB!!!

On 17 Jul 1998 10:15:31 GMT, [email protected] (Ronald B.
Sorobey) wrote:

>
>Dear Sergei Viznyuk (Dragon Fly)
>
>
>I have noted as many other individuals that your latest “rantings”
>are similar to the racist philosophy of hitler and the nazis. Do you
>keep a copy of Mein Kamp under your pillow or next to your computer
>terminal ? It would be interesting to send a copy of some of your
>most recent “rantings” to the F.B.I. I am certain that you broken
>a number U.S. federal laws. I wonder if there is a special section
>of cells at Leavenworth for insects.
>
>Cordially,
>
>Ron Sorobey,
>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>#####

>From [email protected] Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997

Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!

The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
in less than 80 years!!!!

On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, [email protected] (RWhita8200) wrote:

>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>From: [email protected] (ALAN GRIST)
>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST

>>French writers row over “communism killed l00m” claim
>> FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS

>>A BOOK by a team of French historians, described as the
>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>and movements have been responsible for the deaths of
>>up to 100 million people.

>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism – Crimes, Terror
>>and Repression, by 11 senior French researchers and
>>published to coincide with yesterday’s 80th anniversary
>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>cal battle.

>>The writers have come up with a final estimate that
>>communism claimed about 65 million lives in China, 20
>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>million in North Korea, 1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>in Vietnam, one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>South America.

>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>editor and co-ordinator of the project, argued that mass
>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>munism. “The facts are stubborn,” he writes. “They show that
>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against about 100 million
>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis.”
>> Some of M Courtois’s fellow authors however, have taken
>>issue both with his highly charged conclusions and with

> But there’s no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>
>Bob Whitaker

And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!

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On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:41:38 -0400, “Richard G. Philllips”
wrote:
>Scoop wrote:
>> Quoth Richard G. Philllips:
>> : Scoop wrote:

>> : > Dick, since you are alleging that Jews have routinely engaged in ritual
>> : > murder throughout our long history, it is incumbent upon you to provide
>> : > proof of your assertion.
>===========================================
>Phillips
>I have never alleged and I do not believe that Jews ROUTINELY commit
>ritual murder. I am inclined to believe that it has happened but is a
>rare thing and certainly not indulged in by the generality of Jews.

>After reading covington’s original post about the ocurrences in Chicago
>in 1955,
>I did no more than say that the circumstances, taken as a whole, were
>highly suggestive of ritual murder.
>===========================================
>Phillips (previous)

>> : It is well known that liberals and Jews have a penchant for hyperbole of
>> : that sort. It reveals far more about the author than it does about the
>> : person referred to.
>===================================================
>>
>> All that it reveals about me is my opinion that you’re a spineless, lying
>> buffoon.
>===========================================
>PHillips
>
>See what I mean?
>=====================
Notice that the Christkillers refuse to discuss the issue, namely how
many of them indulge in Jewish Ritual Murder, of children???

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:44:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:38:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Nazi – Zionist Collaboration
>
>
> Nazi-Zionist Collaboration
>
>……..or how zionists used the bones of their dead to make money and to steal Palestine from the Palestinians .
>
>Would you use the bones of your dead as an excuse to make money ? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>Would you trade the lives of your fellow citizens in return for other peoples’ lands? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>Would you collaborate with the Nazis while claiming they persecuted you ? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>
>Did you know that the only flag of an International Organization allowed to fly in Nazi Germany was that of the Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD) ?
>That shows how closely the Zionists collaborated with Hitler. Read this to learn more ………….
>
>
>
> Zionism and the Holocaust
>
> Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>
>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>
>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots were
>firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for liberation
>through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved prominence.
>
>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces with
>the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a Jewish
>state.
>
>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a prominence and
>centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being selected as the
>choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the ‘Jewish problem’. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that affected the lives of
>many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some other countries in Europe)
>into a real option to be considered by German Jews.
>
>The best example of this was the ‘Transfer Agreement’ of 1934. Immediately after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way
>disabling the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull out, the campaign would collapse.
>
>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the ‘Jewish problem’, and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>
>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently
>being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence unZionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build…
>
>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>was the signature of the ‘Transfer Agreement’ with the Nazi authorities during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed to
>get Germany’s Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property out of
>the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis – ED). The
>Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts ‘helping’ Jews to leave
>the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the regime to
>be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies, the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now the Jews
>come and agree with them.
>
>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel
>to Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader, Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the ‘new Jew’ of Zionism, a Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>
>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>
>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen’s play PERDITION is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature
>of events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania, leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the
>western Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in
>occupied Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to
>appoint Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi
>authorities. Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible
>different from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers,
>their names were Hungarian – how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in
>Hungary, most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to
>believe any statements by Nazi officials.
>
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS, with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian
>police, could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under
>no illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before he
>even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>
>The Committee faced a simple choice – to tell the Jews of Hungary about their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>
>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of destruction: the trains of ‘prominents’ which Eichmann promised to Kastner – a
>promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain: allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent collaboration over
>the death of almost a million Jews.
>
>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few
>friends. No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million
>who died in Auschwitz.
>
>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or
>elsewhere, did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>
>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and still
>are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews and non-Jews,
>are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists, Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>
>
>**************************************************
>VISIT Radio Islam http://www.radioislam.org
>**************************************************
>———————————————————————————————————————————-
>TO ALL THE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD :
>SATANIC ZIONISM IS THE ENEMY OF ALL THE WORLD’S PEOPLE
>UNITE TO FREE YOURSELF FROM THE “jewish” ZIONIST SHACKLES AND CHAINS BINDING YOU !!!
>FREE PALESTINE FROM ZIONIST OCCUPATION
>NO MORE HOLOHOAX LIES
>NO MORE JEWSMEDIA LIES.
>NO MORE JEWSMEDIA PERIOD.
>NO MORE JEWSPAPERS HIDING THE PALESTINIAN HOLOCAUST.
>NO MORE JEWSPAPERS PERIOD.

>ABU JIHAD

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:15:04 GMT, [email protected] (Tony Hancock)
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:51:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>perhaps ON should do similar??

>One Nation is an Australian issue and braindead Canadian usenet
>sock-puppet fetshists like you should just mind your own bloody
>business,

>Sure Liebler is a f*ckwit,
>Tony Hancock

On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. πŸ™‚
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?

>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.

>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?

>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)

>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,

>>They haven’t.

>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.

>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.

>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.

>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?

>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)

>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)

>>>David Maddison

>>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚

>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.

>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.

>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)

>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.

>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.

>>Harold.

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On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:59:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. πŸ™‚
>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven’t.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, [email protected]>not.awww….
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>>
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those ‘oonga boonga’ mere
>>
>>
>>Shouldn’t that be “Oingo Boingo”?
>>
>>Doesn’t Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of
>>”Be careful who you hate, because you’ll end up being just like them”.
>>
>>They’re behaving like Nazi’s in Palestine (let’s call it by it’s real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn’t one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?…).
>>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli’s are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!. WHO DON’T WORK. WHO DON’T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE. WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>>
>>And while we’re here, Don’t the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>now? I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>
>>AAhhhhh…….. Religion, even when it’s the SAME GOD, there’s still
>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>it.
>>
>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:15:04 GMT, [email protected] (Tony Hancock)
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:51:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>perhaps ON should do similar??

>One Nation is an Australian issue and braindead Canadian usenet
>sock-puppet fetshists like you should just mind your own bloody
>business,

>Sure Liebler is a f*ckwit,
>Tony Hancock

On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. πŸ™‚
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?

>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.

>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?

>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)

>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,

>>They haven’t.

>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.

>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.

>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.

>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?

>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)

>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)

>>>David Maddison

>>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚

>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.

>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.

>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)

>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.

>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.

>>Harold.

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On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:59:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. πŸ™‚
>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven’t.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, [email protected]>not.awww….
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>>
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those ‘oonga boonga’ mere
>>
>>
>>Shouldn’t that be “Oingo Boingo”?
>>
>>Doesn’t Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of
>>”Be careful who you hate, because you’ll end up being just like them”.
>>
>>They’re behaving like Nazi’s in Palestine (let’s call it by it’s real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn’t one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?…).
>>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli’s are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!. WHO DON’T WORK. WHO DON’T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE. WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>>
>>And while we’re here, Don’t the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>now? I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>
>>AAhhhhh…….. Religion, even when it’s the SAME GOD, there’s still
>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>it.
>>
>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.

From [email protected] Mon Oct 12 23:51:50 EDT 1998
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It seems that a certain unpleasant ethnicity just does not like people
to think, and to ponder about the effect that JEWS have had on recent
history.

They do not want people to remember that the Soviet Union, and damned
communism is a JEW philosophy, propounded by Marx (not Harpo) and
Engerls.

They do not want you remembering that more than 100 million people
have died this century because of JEW communism.

They do not want you remembering that it was a Polish JEW Felix
Dzerzhinski who established the Soviet secret Police, now remembered
as CHEKA,NKVD and KGB!!!

On 17 Jul 1998 10:15:31 GMT, [email protected] (Ronald B.
Sorobey) wrote:

>
>Dear Sergei Viznyuk (Dragon Fly)
>
>
>I have noted as many other individuals that your latest “rantings”
>are similar to the racist philosophy of hitler and the nazis. Do you
>keep a copy of Mein Kamp under your pillow or next to your computer
>terminal ? It would be interesting to send a copy of some of your
>most recent “rantings” to the F.B.I. I am certain that you broken
>a number U.S. federal laws. I wonder if there is a special section
>of cells at Leavenworth for insects.
>
>Cordially,
>
>Ron Sorobey,
>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>#####

>From [email protected] Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997

Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!

The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
in less than 80 years!!!!

On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, [email protected] (RWhita8200) wrote:

>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>From: alangr[email protected] (ALAN GRIST)
>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST

>>French writers row over “communism killed l00m” claim
>> FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS

>>A BOOK by a team of French historians, described as the
>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>and movements have been responsible for the deaths of
>>up to 100 million people.

>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism – Crimes, Terror
>>and Repression, by 11 senior French researchers and
>>published to coincide with yesterday’s 80th anniversary
>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>cal battle.

>>The writers have come up with a final estimate that
>>communism claimed about 65 million lives in China, 20
>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>million in North Korea, 1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>in Vietnam, one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>South America.

>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>editor and co-ordinator of the project, argued that mass
>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>munism. “The facts are stubborn,” he writes. “They show that
>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against about 100 million
>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis.”
>> Some of M Courtois’s fellow authors however, have taken
>>issue both with his highly charged conclusions and with

> But there’s no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>
>Bob Whitaker

And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!

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On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:41:38 -0400, “Richard G. Philllips”
wrote:
>Scoop wrote:
>> Quoth Richard G. Philllips:
>> : Scoop wrote:

>> : > Dick, since you are alleging that Jews have routinely engaged in ritual
>> : > murder throughout our long history, it is incumbent upon you to provide
>> : > proof of your assertion.
>===========================================
>Phillips
>I have never alleged and I do not believe that Jews ROUTINELY commit
>ritual murder. I am inclined to believe that it has happened but is a
>rare thing and certainly not indulged in by the generality of Jews.

>After reading covington’s original post about the ocurrences in Chicago
>in 1955,
>I did no more than say that the circumstances, taken as a whole, were
>highly suggestive of ritual murder.
>===========================================
>Phillips (previous)

>> : It is well known that liberals and Jews have a penchant for hyperbole of
>> : that sort. It reveals far more about the author than it does about the
>> : person referred to.
>===================================================
>>
>> All that it reveals about me is my opinion that you’re a spineless, lying
>> buffoon.
>===========================================
>PHillips
>
>See what I mean?
>=====================
Notice that the Christkillers refuse to discuss the issue, namely how
many of them indulge in Jewish Ritual Murder, of children???

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:15:04 GMT, [email protected] (Tony Hancock)
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:51:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>perhaps ON should do similar??

>One Nation is an Australian issue and braindead Canadian usenet
>sock-puppet fetshists like you should just mind your own bloody
>business,

>Sure Liebler is a f*ckwit,
>Tony Hancock

On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. πŸ™‚
>>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?

>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.

>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?

>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)

>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,

>>They haven’t.

>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.

>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.

>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.

>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?

>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)

>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)

>>>David Maddison

>>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚

>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.

>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.

>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)

>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.

>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.

>>Harold.

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:44:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:38:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Nazi – Zionist Collaboration
>
>
> Nazi-Zionist Collaboration
>
>……..or how zionists used the bones of their dead to make money and to steal Palestine from the Palestinians .
>
>Would you use the bones of your dead as an excuse to make money ? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>Would you trade the lives of your fellow citizens in return for other peoples’ lands? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>Would you collaborate with the Nazis while claiming they persecuted you ? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>
>Did you know that the only flag of an International Organization allowed to fly in Nazi Germany was that of the Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD) ?
>That shows how closely the Zionists collaborated with Hitler. Read this to learn more ………….
>
>
>
> Zionism and the Holocaust
>
> Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>
>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>
>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots were
>firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for liberation
>through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved prominence.
>
>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces with
>the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a Jewish
>state.
>
>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a prominence and
>centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being selected as the
>choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the ‘Jewish problem’. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that affected the lives of
>many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some other countries in Europe)
>into a real option to be considered by German Jews.
>
>The best example of this was the ‘Transfer Agreement’ of 1934. Immediately after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way
>disabling the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull out, the campaign would collapse.
>
>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the ‘Jewish problem’, and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>
>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently
>being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence unZionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build…
>
>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>was the signature of the ‘Transfer Agreement’ with the Nazi authorities during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed to
>get Germany’s Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property out of
>the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis – ED). The
>Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts ‘helping’ Jews to leave
>the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the regime to
>be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies, the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now the Jews
>come and agree with them.
>
>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel
>to Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader, Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the ‘new Jew’ of Zionism, a Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>
>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>
>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen’s play PERDITION is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature
>of events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania, leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the
>western Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in
>occupied Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to
>appoint Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi
>authorities. Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible
>different from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers,
>their names were Hungarian – how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in
>Hungary, most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to
>believe any statements by Nazi officials.
>
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS, with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian
>police, could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under
>no illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before he
>even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>
>The Committee faced a simple choice – to tell the Jews of Hungary about their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>
>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of destruction: the trains of ‘prominents’ which Eichmann promised to Kastner – a
>promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain: allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent collaboration over
>the death of almost a million Jews.
>
>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few
>friends. No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million
>who died in Auschwitz.
>
>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or
>elsewhere, did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>
>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and still
>are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews and non-Jews,
>are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists, Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>
>
>**************************************************
>VISIT Radio Islam http://www.radioislam.org
>**************************************************
>———————————————————————————————————————————-
>TO ALL THE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD :
>SATANIC ZIONISM IS THE ENEMY OF ALL THE WORLD’S PEOPLE
>UNITE TO FREE YOURSELF FROM THE “jewish” ZIONIST SHACKLES AND CHAINS BINDING YOU !!!
>FREE PALESTINE FROM ZIONIST OCCUPATION
>NO MORE HOLOHOAX LIES
>NO MORE JEWSMEDIA LIES.
>NO MORE JEWSMEDIA PERIOD.
>NO MORE JEWSPAPERS HIDING THE PALESTINIAN HOLOCAUST.
>NO MORE JEWSPAPERS PERIOD.

>ABU JIHAD

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>
>
>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>
>>
>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>> answer??
>>
>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>> [email protected]
>
>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>
>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> > letters?
>>
>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>
>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith’s butt.
>>
>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>
>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>
>>>> The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>
>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>
>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>
>>
>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>
>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>
>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>> >dramatizations.
>>
>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>
>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>
>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>
>>[email protected]
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>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>
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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946

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>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.

>Please print this form and send to:

>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________

>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.

>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]

>Attention:CHARITIES
>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:26:43, kenoy wrote:

>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES

Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
perhaps ON should do similar??

Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
collar criminals, and similar criminals?

After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
antagonise a generous host country like Australia?

Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
murder of Christ?

Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
want to generate more?

Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!

Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
in many countries, trying to take control…

>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.

>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.

>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is…

>>cheers, PJ

>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.

>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!

On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
Wood) wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>wrote:
>
>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>Harold.
>
>Have you considered that your estimation here
>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>probably have given you a false impression
>however. πŸ™‚
>
>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>indeed.
>
>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>means’.)
>
>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>published it,
>
>They haven’t.
>
>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>Australian voters?
>
>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>David Maddison
>
>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚
>
>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>reaction to the realisation that their
>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>Harold.
-88-

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2 wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz.

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>sensitive site.

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>groups.

>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,” she added.

>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable.

>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ

>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site.

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex.

>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau.

>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar.

>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists.

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>forgotten.

>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>be removed.
>
>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated.
>
>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.”
>
>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, “But I don’t see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>the moment.”

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora.

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold.

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently.

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the “Judenrampe,” the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign.

>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.”

>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda.

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,” wiping out most of
>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.

>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska.

>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.

>“We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland’s tiny
>Jewish community.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>
>
>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>
>>
>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>> answer??
>>
>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>> [email protected]
>
>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>
>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> > letters?
>>
>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>
>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith’s butt.
>>
>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>
>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>
>>>> The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>
>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>
>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>
>>
>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>
>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>
>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>> >dramatizations.
>>
>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>
>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>
>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>
>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>
>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>
>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>
>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>
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>>
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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946

>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”

>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!

>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>[email protected] which contains the
>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com

>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.

>Please print this form and send to:

>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________

>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.

>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]

>Attention:CHARITIES
>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946

>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”

>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!

>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>[email protected] which contains the
>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com

>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.

>Please print this form and send to:

>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________

>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.

>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]

>Attention:CHARITIES
>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:26:43, kenoy wrote:

>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES

Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
perhaps ON should do similar??

Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
collar criminals, and similar criminals?

After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
antagonise a generous host country like Australia?

Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
murder of Christ?

Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
want to generate more?

Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!

Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
in many countries, trying to take control…

>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.

>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.

>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is…

>>cheers, PJ

>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.

>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!

On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
Wood) wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>wrote:
>
>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>Harold.
>
>Have you considered that your estimation here
>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>probably have given you a false impression
>however. πŸ™‚
>
>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>indeed.
>
>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>means’.)
>
>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>published it,
>
>They haven’t.
>
>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>Australian voters?
>
>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>David Maddison
>
>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚
>
>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>reaction to the realisation that their
>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>Harold.
-88-

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2 wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz.

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>sensitive site.

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>groups.

>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,” she added.

>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable.

>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ

>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site.

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex.

>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau.

>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar.

>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists.

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>forgotten.

>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>be removed.
>
>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated.
>
>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.”
>
>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, “But I don’t see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>the moment.”

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora.

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold.

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently.

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the “Judenrampe,” the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign.

>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.”

>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda.

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,” wiping out most of
>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.

>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska.

>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.

>“We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland’s tiny
>Jewish community.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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On 12 Oct 1998 20:56:39 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

>Absolutely right, Mr. Grosvenor – very good advice!

On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:59:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control…
>
>>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is…
>
>>>cheers, PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. πŸ™‚
>
>>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>>means’.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven’t.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, [email protected]>not.awww….
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>>
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those ‘oonga boonga’ mere
>>
>>
>>Shouldn’t that be “Oingo Boingo”?
>>
>>Doesn’t Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of
>>”Be careful who you hate, because you’ll end up being just like them”.
>>
>>They’re behaving like Nazi’s in Palestine (let’s call it by it’s real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn’t one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?…).
>>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli’s are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!. WHO DON’T WORK. WHO DON’T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE. WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>>
>>And while we’re here, Don’t the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>now? I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>
>>AAhhhhh…….. Religion, even when it’s the SAME GOD, there’s still
>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>it.
>>
>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.

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On 13 Oct 1998 03:36:24 GMT,(Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:00:36 -0400, wrote:
>Hey Warr,

>Get some new material. Fran Dresher you aint. Henny Youngman could do better
>sleepwalking.

On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:00:54 +0200, “Rob” wrote:

>You are right!!!

On 10 Oct 1998 18:46:42 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

JEWISH JOKES

How was copper wiring invented?
Two Jews fighting over a penny!

How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
They put parking meters on the roof!

Why is money green?
Because Jews pick it before it’s ripe!

What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
Jew Jew Beans… Although I heard he enjoyed them “roasted!”

If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
A fur coat!

Why don’t Jews eat pork?
They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they’re not!

Why aren’t Jews attacked by sharks?
Professional courtesy!

Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
Let one in, and he’ll keep the rest out.

What’s the Jewish version of foreplay?
Half an hour of begging.

How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
She’s the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!

Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!

What’s the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!

Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
Someone dropped a quarter!

Why do Jews have such big noses?
Because air is free.

What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
an
affair?
Who catered it?

What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
He breaks his nose.

What’s a Jewish dilemma?
Free ham.

What’s the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
Nail polish.

What’s the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
An elephant eventually forgets.

A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
way,
when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
rubbed it, a
Jewish genie appeared. “I’ll give you two wishes,” quipped
the genie. “Far out,” said the black man. “First, I want to be white,
uptight,
and out of sight!” Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
story:
You can’t get anything from a Jew without strings
attached!

How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
Marry her!

Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
They want 20% off everything!

What’s the difference between between karate and judo?
Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.

What’s the definition of a queer Jew?
Someone that likes girls more then money.

What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
A WHINE cellar.

Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.

What’s the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
A vulture waits until you’re dead to eat your heart out!

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On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, “WaRR”
wrote:

>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>oil of no lay!!

>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle’s creed was
>what fought rocky balboa.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>a toilet doesn’t follow you around for 9 months after you use it.

>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>it’s called well i’ll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman’s waterbed?
>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.

>=how was copper wire invented?
> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.

>=why are jewish men circumcised?
> because jewish women won’t buy anything unless it’s 20% off.

>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>a girl.

>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>a computer that never goes down on you.
>=what’s a jewish british princess’ favorite wine?
> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>she drops her nail file.

>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.

>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>because they can sell it again and again and again.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>jello moves when you eat it.

>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>she makes him beg for an hour.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>british princess?
>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.

>=what’s the difference between jews and canoes?
>canoes tip. ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))

>=what’s the difference between jews and pizzas?
>pizzas don’t scream when you put them in the oven.

>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>free ham.

>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>a cash register.

>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.

>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>he only took tips.

>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.

>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>replied, “i’d draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>the other to me.” the minister replied, “i’d draw a circle in
>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>outside for me.” the rabbi’s answer was, he wouldn’t draw any
>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.

>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they’re
>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. “ok,” he says,
>”but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>if you don’t, you go straight to hell.” after agreeing, they find
>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>blocks down they pass a pizza store. “i can’t help myself!” says the
>italian… he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. “i can’t
>help myself!” he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>homosexual disappears.

>yours truly

>WaRR
-88-

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On 13 Oct 1998 03:36:24 GMT,(Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:00:36 -0400, wrote:
>Hey Warr,

>Get some new material. Fran Dresher you aint. Henny Youngman could do better
>sleepwalking.

On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:00:54 +0200, “Rob” wrote:

>You are right!!!

On 10 Oct 1998 18:46:42 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:

JEWISH JOKES

How was copper wiring invented?
Two Jews fighting over a penny!

How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
They put parking meters on the roof!

Why is money green?
Because Jews pick it before it’s ripe!

What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
Jew Jew Beans… Although I heard he enjoyed them “roasted!”

If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
A fur coat!

Why don’t Jews eat pork?
They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they’re not!

Why aren’t Jews attacked by sharks?
Professional courtesy!

Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
Let one in, and he’ll keep the rest out.

What’s the Jewish version of foreplay?
Half an hour of begging.

How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
She’s the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!

Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!

What’s the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!

Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
Someone dropped a quarter!

Why do Jews have such big noses?
Because air is free.

What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
an
affair?
Who catered it?

What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
He breaks his nose.

What’s a Jewish dilemma?
Free ham.

What’s the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
Nail polish.

What’s the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
An elephant eventually forgets.

A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
way,
when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
rubbed it, a
Jewish genie appeared. “I’ll give you two wishes,” quipped
the genie. “Far out,” said the black man. “First, I want to be white,
uptight,
and out of sight!” Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
story:
You can’t get anything from a Jew without strings
attached!

How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
Marry her!

Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
They want 20% off everything!

What’s the difference between between karate and judo?
Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.

What’s the definition of a queer Jew?
Someone that likes girls more then money.

What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
A WHINE cellar.

Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.

What’s the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
A vulture waits until you’re dead to eat your heart out!

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On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, “WaRR”
wrote:

>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>oil of no lay!!

>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle’s creed was
>what fought rocky balboa.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>a toilet doesn’t follow you around for 9 months after you use it.

>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>it’s called well i’ll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman’s waterbed?
>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.

>=how was copper wire invented?
> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.

>=why are jewish men circumcised?
> because jewish women won’t buy anything unless it’s 20% off.

>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>a girl.

>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>a computer that never goes down on you.
>=what’s a jewish british princess’ favorite wine?
> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>she drops her nail file.

>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.

>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>because they can sell it again and again and again.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>jello moves when you eat it.

>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>she makes him beg for an hour.

>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>british princess?
>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.

>=what’s the difference between jews and canoes?
>canoes tip. ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))

>=what’s the difference between jews and pizzas?
>pizzas don’t scream when you put them in the oven.

>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>free ham.

>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>a cash register.

>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.

>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>he only took tips.

>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.

>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>replied, “i’d draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>the other to me.” the minister replied, “i’d draw a circle in
>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>outside for me.” the rabbi’s answer was, he wouldn’t draw any
>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.

>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they’re
>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. “ok,” he says,
>”but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>if you don’t, you go straight to hell.” after agreeing, they find
>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>blocks down they pass a pizza store. “i can’t help myself!” says the
>italian… he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. “i can’t
>help myself!” he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>homosexual disappears.

>yours truly

>WaRR
-88-

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:26:43, kenoy wrote:

>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES

Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
perhaps ON should do similar??

Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
collar criminals, and similar criminals?

After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
antagonise a generous host country like Australia?

Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
murder of Christ?

Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
want to generate more?

Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
that the Jews WORK in the 1940’s are now having extortion demands!!!

Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
in many countries, trying to take control…

>>Mr Leibler: you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians – who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing – on purely political grounds; by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.

>>In the interests of “balance”, would you now care to publish to the
>>world, the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the “Genocide” of the Palestinian
>>Nation; with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.

>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for “political
>>transparency”: lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is…

>>cheers, PJ

>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.

>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!

On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, [email protected] (Harold
Wood) wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>[email protected] (David S. Maddison)
>wrote:
>
>Thanks for clarifying where you’re coming from,
>Harold.
>
>Have you considered that your estimation here
>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>probably have given you a false impression
>however. πŸ™‚
>
>Here is another angle on my ‘yike’.
>
>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>attempting to protect the ‘nice little earner’
>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>consituency) has going in Australia. They
>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>hapless political ‘pincer movement’ entrapped
>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>Ummm… Was it “The Jews” ™ that published the list or was it a
>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>Some voices among ‘the Jews’ have now been
>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>Review. The action of those sensible people must
>surely be generally appreciated by all. A very
>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>indeed.
>
>>Why blame “The Jews” for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>Consider my approach a ‘media technique’. One I
>highly disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>of. (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>subscribe to the principle, ‘the end justifies the
>means’.)
>
>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I’d say it was equally
>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>published it,
>
>They haven’t.
>
>> or someone may have posted it to the ‘Net.
>
>Here of course mostly ‘anything goes’. That
>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn’t
>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>oppose. Quite stupid are they not! πŸ™‚ I wonder
>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>Australian voters?
>
>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>you please. (I am not currently a member of any
>party but have belonged in the past to a number.)
>
>>David Maddison
>
>Hope that helps. πŸ™‚
>
>Now, here is another aspect of my ‘yike’.
>
>The arrogance displayed by Australia’s now
>prolific ‘ursurper classes’ knows no bounds.
>
>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>’politically correct screeching brigade’ has long
>intimidated our good, polite, well meaning and
>well mannered ‘Australian cultured’ citizens, thus
>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>The Australia-Israel Review’s stupid move in
>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>reflection of their verging hysterical panic
>reaction to the realisation that their
>constituency’s ‘game’ just might be about to be
>up! Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>Harold.
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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2 wrote:

>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>By Sean Maguire
>Sept. 14, 1998

>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz.

>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>sensitive site.

>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>groups.

>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests and must be resolved as
>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are beginning to be perceived
>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,” she added.

>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>site inevitable.

>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ

>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site.

>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex.

>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>human ashes at Birkenau.

>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar.

>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>and nationalists.

>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>forgotten.

>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>be removed.
>
>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated.
>
>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the answer but the cross, all
>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>the-scene discussion.”
>
>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, “But I don’t see any
>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>the moment.”

>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE

>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>and the Jewish diaspora.

>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>international funding, are on hold.

>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently.

>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the “Judenrampe,” the
>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign.

>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about preserving barbed wire,
>concrete, the crematories.”

>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda.

>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,” wiping out most of
>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.

>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>Magdziak-Miszewska.

>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.

>“We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland’s tiny
>Jewish community.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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It seems that a certain unpleasant ethnicity just does not like people
to think, and to ponder about the effect that JEWS have had on recent
history.

They do not want people to remember that the Soviet Union, and damned
communism is a JEW philosophy, propounded by Marx (not Harpo) and
Engerls.

They do not want you remembering that more than 100 million people
have died this century because of JEW communism.

They do not want you remembering that it was a Polish JEW Felix
Dzerzhinski who established the Soviet secret Police, now remembered
as CHEKA,NKVD and KGB!!!

On 17 Jul 1998 10:15:31 GMT, [email protected] (Ronald B.
Sorobey) wrote:

>
>Dear Sergei Viznyuk (Dragon Fly)
>
>
>I have noted as many other individuals that your latest “rantings”
>are similar to the racist philosophy of hitler and the nazis. Do you
>keep a copy of Mein Kamp under your pillow or next to your computer
>terminal ? It would be interesting to send a copy of some of your
>most recent “rantings” to the F.B.I. I am certain that you broken
>a number U.S. federal laws. I wonder if there is a special section
>of cells at Leavenworth for insects.
>
>Cordially,
>
>Ron Sorobey,
>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>#####

>From [email protected] Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997

Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!

The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
in less than 80 years!!!!

On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, [email protected] (RWhita8200) wrote:

>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>From: [email protected] (ALAN GRIST)
>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST

>>French writers row over “communism killed l00m” claim
>> FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS

>>A BOOK by a team of French historians, described as the
>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>and movements have been responsible for the deaths of
>>up to 100 million people.

>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism – Crimes, Terror
>>and Repression, by 11 senior French researchers and
>>published to coincide with yesterday’s 80th anniversary
>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>cal battle.

>>The writers have come up with a final estimate that
>>communism claimed about 65 million lives in China, 20
>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>million in North Korea, 1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>in Vietnam, one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>South America.

>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>editor and co-ordinator of the project, argued that mass
>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>munism. “The facts are stubborn,” he writes. “They show that
>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against about 100 million
>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis.”
>> Some of M Courtois’s fellow authors however, have taken
>>issue both with his highly charged conclusions and with

> But there’s no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>
>Bob Whitaker

And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!

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On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:41:38 -0400, “Richard G. Philllips”
wrote:
>Scoop wrote:
>> Quoth Richard G. Philllips:
>> : Scoop wrote:

>> : > Dick, since you are alleging that Jews have routinely engaged in ritual
>> : > murder throughout our long history, it is incumbent upon you to provide
>> : > proof of your assertion.
>===========================================
>Phillips
>I have never alleged and I do not believe that Jews ROUTINELY commit
>ritual murder. I am inclined to believe that it has happened but is a
>rare thing and certainly not indulged in by the generality of Jews.

>After reading covington’s original post about the ocurrences in Chicago
>in 1955,
>I did no more than say that the circumstances, taken as a whole, were
>highly suggestive of ritual murder.
>===========================================
>Phillips (previous)

>> : It is well known that liberals and Jews have a penchant for hyperbole of
>> : that sort. It reveals far more about the author than it does about the
>> : person referred to.
>===================================================
>>
>> All that it reveals about me is my opinion that you’re a spineless, lying
>> buffoon.
>===========================================
>PHillips
>
>See what I mean?
>=====================
Notice that the Christkillers refuse to discuss the issue, namely how
many of them indulge in Jewish Ritual Murder, of children???

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This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!

By the way, since when is the appellation “attorney at law” legal in
Canada??

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:43:06, [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected]om (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946

>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”

>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!

>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com

>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.

>Please print this form and send to:

>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________

>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.

>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]

>Attention:CHARITIES
>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:35:22, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:54:54, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:

>On 28 Sep 1998 01:44:48 -0000, Anonymous wrote:
>>Death to each and every kike in the JDL only after hours of torture.

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>
>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment
>
>>by Yossi Melman
>
>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha’aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.]
>
>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>
>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman’s noose, and his close
>>family
>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling –
>>years later proven to be incorrect – that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk’s extradition to
>>Israel.
>
>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>Court
>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>hope to reach.
>
>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt’s star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>Judge George Paine of the
>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>and primarily B’nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>ago.
>
>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. “I am just a
>>lot
>>more sober,” he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt’s
>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>against Demjanjuk.
>
>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>being inefficient and
>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>to “deliver the goods”: either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government – through
>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem – to request Demjanjuk’s
>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>
>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>Demjanjuk’s extradition.
>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him.
>
>>”Today we know,” says Merritt, “that they – the OSI, the prosecution in
>>the case and the State Department – lied through their teeth. Even then
>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>information at the time.
>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>Israel.” Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was “nothing
>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted.”
>
>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk’s trial, Michael
>>Shaked. “Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk’s identification as Ivan the
>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman’s noose.
>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars.” As for
>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, “Yes, I heard
>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>introduced to the court, it’s impossible to find him guilty of other
>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>Terrible.”
>
>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>investigation
>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge’s claim
>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>their legal advisers, who
>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>Cinncinnati trial
>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>required by law. “My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>judge,
>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>the officials in Washington – to submit all the information they had to
>>the court.”
>>The investigation of Judge Merritt’s complaint is still underway.
>
>>Gilbert Merritt’s curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor’s degree at Yale,
>>and then
>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>situation of the black minority of
>>one of the most racist southern states.
>
>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him.
>
>>”Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>demand for an investigation,” he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>”They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>organizations could have.”
>
>>Merritt’s friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge’s chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>Nashville.
>
>>”At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies – golf, tennis,
>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>universities.”
>
>>[End]

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On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>
>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment
>
>>by Yossi Melman
>
>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha’aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.]
>
>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>
>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman’s noose, and his close
>>family
>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling –
>>years later proven to be incorrect – that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk’s extradition to
>>Israel.
>
>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>Court
>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>hope to reach.
>
>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt’s star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>Judge George Paine of the
>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>and primarily B’nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>ago.
>
>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. “I am just a
>>lot
>>more sober,” he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt’s
>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>against Demjanjuk.
>
>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>being inefficient and
>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>to “deliver the goods”: either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government – through
>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem – to request Demjanjuk’s
>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>
>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>Demjanjuk’s extradition.
>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him.
>
>>”Today we know,” says Merritt, “that they – the OSI, the prosecution in
>>the case and the State Department – lied through their teeth. Even then
>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>information at the time.
>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>Israel.” Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was “nothing
>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted.”
>
>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk’s trial, Michael
>>Shaked. “Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk’s identification as Ivan the
>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman’s noose.
>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars.” As for
>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, “Yes, I heard
>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>introduced to the court, it’s impossible to find him guilty of other
>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>Terrible.”
>
>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>investigation
>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge’s claim
>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>their legal advisers, who
>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>Cinncinnati trial
>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>required by law. “My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>judge,
>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>the officials in Washington – to submit all the information they had to
>>the court.”
>>The investigation of Judge Merritt’s complaint is still underway.
>
>>Gilbert Merritt’s curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor’s degree at Yale,
>>and then
>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>situation of the black minority of
>>one of the most racist southern states.
>
>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him.
>
>>”Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>demand for an investigation,” he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>”They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>organizations could have.”
>
>>Merritt’s friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge’s chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>Nashville.
>
>>”At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies – golf, tennis,
>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>universities.”
>
>>[End]

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:35:22, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:54:54, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:

>On 28 Sep 1998 01:44:48 -0000, Anonymous wrote:
>>Death to each and every kike in the JDL only after hours of torture.

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>
>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment
>
>>by Yossi Melman
>
>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha’aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.]
>
>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>
>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman’s noose, and his close
>>family
>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling –
>>years later proven to be incorrect – that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk’s extradition to
>>Israel.
>
>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>Court
>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>hope to reach.
>
>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt’s star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>Judge George Paine of the
>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>and primarily B’nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>ago.
>
>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. “I am just a
>>lot
>>more sober,” he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt’s
>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>against Demjanjuk.
>
>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>being inefficient and
>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>to “deliver the goods”: either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government – through
>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem – to request Demjanjuk’s
>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>
>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>Demjanjuk’s extradition.
>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him.
>
>>”Today we know,” says Merritt, “that they – the OSI, the prosecution in
>>the case and the State Department – lied through their teeth. Even then
>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>information at the time.
>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>Israel.” Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was “nothing
>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted.”
>
>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk’s trial, Michael
>>Shaked. “Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk’s identification as Ivan the
>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman’s noose.
>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars.” As for
>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, “Yes, I heard
>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>introduced to the court, it’s impossible to find him guilty of other
>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>Terrible.”
>
>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>investigation
>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge’s claim
>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>their legal advisers, who
>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>Cinncinnati trial
>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>required by law. “My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>judge,
>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>the officials in Washington – to submit all the information they had to
>>the court.”
>>The investigation of Judge Merritt’s complaint is still underway.
>
>>Gilbert Merritt’s curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor’s degree at Yale,
>>and then
>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>situation of the black minority of
>>one of the most racist southern states.
>
>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him.
>
>>”Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>demand for an investigation,” he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>”They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>organizations could have.”
>
>>Merritt’s friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge’s chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>Nashville.
>
>>”At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies – golf, tennis,
>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>universities.”
>
>>[End]

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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:56:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 23 Jun 1998 00:27:52 GMT, [email protected] (Daniel Swan)
>wrote:
>
>>steve mock ([email protected]) wrote:
>>
>>: What you constantly fail to grasp, Tavish, is that no one is denying that there were people of Jewish ancestry among
>>: the Bolsheviks, or even that there weren’t quite a few people of Jewish ancestry among the Bolsheviks. What you
>>: completely and utterly fail to understand is how collossal the leap of logic is which you ask us to make from that fact
>>: to the conclusion that Bolshevism is some kind of a Jewish plot for which Jews bear collective responsibility.
>>
>>Logical leap or not, this raises an interesting question: How
>>can the overproportionate Jewish representation among the
>>Bolsheviks be accounted for?
>
>
>Perhaps the following text may help answer your rhetorical question…
>
>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
>”Russian
>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
>Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
>will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:
>
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet
>government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government
>in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>type.”
>
>
>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were
>384
>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
>to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”
>
>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>and
>Moisei Uritsky.
>
>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>
>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
>that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
>these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
>in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
>northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon.
>
>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
>agitators
>were Jews.
>
>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it.”
>
>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>April,
>4, 1919)
>
>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin,
>Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:
>
>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>death
>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.
>
>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80
>percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.
>
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From [email protected] Wed Oct 14 11:33:28 EDT 1998
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On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:00:33 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>role model???
>
>
>
>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>
>> Positive Jewish role models
>>
>> Alan Silver.. wrote:
>> >
>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant. Whatever
>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>> > — crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>> > whatever.
>> =========
>> Dear Alan,
>>
>> Thank you for your email. I am posting your letter, while removing your
>> signature.
>>
>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>> Yes, it is hardly significant. The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>> Ukrainians and Germans. We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.
>>
>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>> and admire Jewish achievements world over. (And yes I am jelous of it
>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)
>>
>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>> martyrology. The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>> by Israeli archeologists. It is about the time that the mythical parts
>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>> helping Jews.
>>
>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.
>>
>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>> a barn on July 11, 19941.
>>
>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.
>>
>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>> many others. My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>> Rubin.
>> ————
>> Jozef pawlikowski
>>
>> >
>> > ———-
>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI >> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM
>> > >
>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > wrote:
>> > > > |
>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in
>> > which
>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst.
>> > Their
>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of
>> > these
>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with
>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > > > |> education. These are data from self-serving, post-war
>> > questionaries.
>> > > > |>
>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page
>> > 489
>> > > > |> of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were
>> > fired
>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > > > |> closed.
>> > > > |
>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> > > > |longer or die now!
>> > > >
>> > > > Herman
>> > > > Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian,
>> > Polack,
>> > > > Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>> > > > guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian,
>> > and
>> > > > other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish
>> > community
>> > > > not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals,
>> > unless
>> > > > they happen to be jews.
>> > > >
>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!
>> > > >
>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> > > >
>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place
>> > in
>> > > > |> Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly
>> > in
>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching
>> > behind
>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols
>> > facing
>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced
>> > into
>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > > > |>
>> > > > What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>> > > > there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label
>> > them
>> > > > with any nationality?
>> > > >
>> > > > –Rostyk
>> > > ===============
>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>> > > Research costs $$$. Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>> > > starters.
>> > >
>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews. I can make out
>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>> > > ———-
>> > > J

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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:54:04 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

>———- Forwarded message ———-
>Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:12:11 -0800 (PST)
>From: NSWPP-CSU
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Jewish Mafia
>======================================================
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>
>——–Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television———-
>
>According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, “TV Venture by
>Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions,” Zionist mogul and former U.S. ambassador
>to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich, a Ukrainian
>millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and has ties to the
>Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media empire–Central European Media
>Enterprises– in the countries of the former Soviet Union.
>
>The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations in
>seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is controlled by
>its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner in Kiev.
>
>Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose company,
>Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish mafia.
>
>The Times says, “Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft from
>the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a
>construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said
>he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being Jewish.
>
>”…Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago. At
>the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its representatives
>were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a close adviser and
>assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine, who praised the Ukraine
>group. And when questions arose about the legality of the broadcast
>license received by the joint venture, the same presidential adviser
>obtained a letter declaring that the license had been awarded properly.
>
>”…(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British government to
>bar Loutchansky from entering the country…An intelligence summary
>prepared by a Western government, and corroborated by senior U.S.
>diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich’s companies, had been created
>as an arm of Nordex, a claim that Rabinovich disputed.
>
>”In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev, Rabinovich
>said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had broken off the
>relationship two years ago because of bad publicity about Loutchansky. He
>said his companies, which are engaged in many businesses, had only
>legitimate interests…
>
>”Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central
>European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would have
>annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run up steady
>losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost $30 million
>in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and $20.5
>million in 1994.
>
>”When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago, Fertig
>said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners in
>Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close adviser to Kuchma.
>Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of
>Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment.
>
>”Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the company
>executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich’s office that
>showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore, according to
>a person close to the company.
>
>”The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising party
>in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to the
>Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an American
>businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big cigarette
>manufacturer.
>
>”…Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership agreement
>with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50 percent
>economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting about five
>hours a day on Ukrainian television.
>
>”Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time on
>Ukraine’s commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including prime
>time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued despite a
>moratorium imposed by Parliament.
>
>”…The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a stock
>offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said the
>Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach.
>
>”A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in
>September raised questions about Rabinovich’s background and said he was
>’largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,’ according to
>a copy provided to The New York Times.” (End quote).
>
>Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty
>thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the Pres. of
>Ukraine and other Judases.
>
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>
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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>
>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>
>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>involved.

>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (William
>Markiewicz) wrote:
>
>>
>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>sperati wrote:
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>> —————————————————————————
>>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
>>
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
>>
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
>>
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
>>
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>>
>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!

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Those who fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat the past…

On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 03:32:55 +0200, Maryam
wrote:

>You should stop sending your brown neo-nazi propagand to this NG or i
>will
>report you to your provider. I am sick and tired of narrow minded poeple
>like
>you spreading their anti-human venom around the world.

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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>
>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>
>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>involved.

>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (William
>Markiewicz) wrote:
>
>>
>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>sperati wrote:
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>> —————————————————————————
>>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
>>
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
>>
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
>>
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
>>
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>>
>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!

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On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
>Slepokura) wrote:
>
>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>
>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment
>
>>by Yossi Melman
>
>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha’aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.]
>
>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>
>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman’s noose, and his close
>>family
>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling –
>>years later proven to be incorrect – that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk’s extradition to
>>Israel.
>
>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>Court
>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>hope to reach.
>
>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt’s star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>Judge George Paine of the
>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>and primarily B’nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>ago.
>
>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. “I am just a
>>lot
>>more sober,” he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt’s
>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department’s Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>against Demjanjuk.
>
>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>being inefficient and
>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>to “deliver the goods”: either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government – through
>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem – to request Demjanjuk’s
>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>
>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>Demjanjuk’s extradition.
>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him.
>
>>”Today we know,” says Merritt, “that they – the OSI, the prosecution in
>>the case and the State Department – lied through their teeth. Even then
>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>information at the time.
>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>Israel.” Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was “nothing
>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted.”
>
>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk’s trial, Michael
>>Shaked. “Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk’s identification as Ivan the
>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman’s noose.
>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars.” As for
>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, “Yes, I heard
>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>introduced to the court, it’s impossible to find him guilty of other
>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>Terrible.”
>
>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>investigation
>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge’s claim
>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>their legal advisers, who
>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>Cinncinnati trial
>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>required by law. “My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>judge,
>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>the officials in Washington – to submit all the information they had to
>>the court.”
>>The investigation of Judge Merritt’s complaint is still underway.
>
>>Gilbert Merritt’s curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor’s degree at Yale,
>>and then
>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>situation of the black minority of
>>one of the most racist southern states.
>
>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him.
>
>>”Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>demand for an investigation,” he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>”They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>organizations could have.”
>
>>Merritt’s friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge’s chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>Nashville.
>
>>”At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies – golf, tennis,
>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>universities.”
>
>>[End]

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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:56:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 23 Jun 1998 00:27:52 GMT, [email protected] (Daniel Swan)
>wrote:
>
>>steve mock ([email protected]) wrote:
>>
>>: What you constantly fail to grasp, Tavish, is that no one is denying that there were people of Jewish ancestry among
>>: the Bolsheviks, or even that there weren’t quite a few people of Jewish ancestry among the Bolsheviks. What you
>>: completely and utterly fail to understand is how collossal the leap of logic is which you ask us to make from that fact
>>: to the conclusion that Bolshevism is some kind of a Jewish plot for which Jews bear collective responsibility.
>>
>>Logical leap or not, this raises an interesting question: How
>>can the overproportionate Jewish representation among the
>>Bolsheviks be accounted for?
>
>
>Perhaps the following text may help answer your rhetorical question…
>
>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
>”Russian
>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
>Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
>will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
>that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:
>
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet
>government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
>July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government
>in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
>type.”
>
>
>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
>reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were
>384
>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
>to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”
>
>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
>foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
>and
>Moisei Uritsky.
>
>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
>little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>
>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
>Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
>side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
>that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
>these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
>in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
>one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
>northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
>Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon.
>
>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
>on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
>because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
>Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
>agitators
>were Jews.
>
>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
>that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it.”
>
>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
>April,
>4, 1919)
>
>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin,
>Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:
>
>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
>customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
>death
>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.
>
>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80
>percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
>were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.
>
>Regards,
>Roger Hughes
>
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On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:00:33 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>role model???
>
>
>
>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>
>> Positive Jewish role models
>>
>> Alan Silver.. wrote:
>> >
>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant. Whatever
>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>> > — crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>> > whatever.
>> =========
>> Dear Alan,
>>
>> Thank you for your email. I am posting your letter, while removing your
>> signature.
>>
>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>> Yes, it is hardly significant. The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>> Ukrainians and Germans. We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.
>>
>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>> and admire Jewish achievements world over. (And yes I am jelous of it
>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)
>>
>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>> martyrology. The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>> by Israeli archeologists. It is about the time that the mythical parts
>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>> helping Jews.
>>
>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.
>>
>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>> a barn on July 11, 19941.
>>
>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.
>>
>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>> many others. My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>> Rubin.
>> ————
>> Jozef pawlikowski
>>
>> >
>> > ———-
>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI >> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM
>> > >
>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > wrote:
>> > > > |
>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in
>> > which
>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst.
>> > Their
>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of
>> > these
>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with
>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > > > |> education. These are data from self-serving, post-war
>> > questionaries.
>> > > > |>
>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page
>> > 489
>> > > > |> of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were
>> > fired
>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > > > |> closed.
>> > > > |
>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> > > > |longer or die now!
>> > > >
>> > > > Herman
>> > > > Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian,
>> > Polack,
>> > > > Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>> > > > guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian,
>> > and
>> > > > other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish
>> > community
>> > > > not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals,
>> > unless
>> > > > they happen to be jews.
>> > > >
>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!
>> > > >
>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> > > >
>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place
>> > in
>> > > > |> Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly
>> > in
>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching
>> > behind
>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols
>> > facing
>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced
>> > into
>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > > > |>
>> > > > What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>> > > > there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label
>> > them
>> > > > with any nationality?
>> > > >
>> > > > –Rostyk
>> > > ===============
>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>> > > Research costs $$$. Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>> > > starters.
>> > >
>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews. I can make out
>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>> > > ———-
>> > > J

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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 06:54:04 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

>———- Forwarded message ———-
>Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:12:11 -0800 (PST)
>From: NSWPP-CSU
>Cc: [email protected]
>Subject: Jewish Mafia
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>——–Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television———-
>
>According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, “TV Venture by
>Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions,” Zionist mogul and former U.S. ambassador
>to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich, a Ukrainian
>millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and has ties to the
>Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media empire–Central European Media
>Enterprises– in the countries of the former Soviet Union.
>
>The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations in
>seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is controlled by
>its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner in Kiev.
>
>Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose company,
>Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish mafia.
>
>The Times says, “Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft from
>the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a
>construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said
>he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being Jewish.
>
>”…Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago. At
>the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its representatives
>were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a close adviser and
>assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine, who praised the Ukraine
>group. And when questions arose about the legality of the broadcast
>license received by the joint venture, the same presidential adviser
>obtained a letter declaring that the license had been awarded properly.
>
>”…(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British government to
>bar Loutchansky from entering the country…An intelligence summary
>prepared by a Western government, and corroborated by senior U.S.
>diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich’s companies, had been created
>as an arm of Nordex, a claim that Rabinovich disputed.
>
>”In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev, Rabinovich
>said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had broken off the
>relationship two years ago because of bad publicity about Loutchansky. He
>said his companies, which are engaged in many businesses, had only
>legitimate interests…
>
>”Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central
>European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would have
>annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run up steady
>losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost $30 million
>in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and $20.5
>million in 1994.
>
>”When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago, Fertig
>said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners in
>Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close adviser to Kuchma.
>Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of
>Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment.
>
>”Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the company
>executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich’s office that
>showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore, according to
>a person close to the company.
>
>”The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising party
>in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to the
>Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an American
>businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big cigarette
>manufacturer.
>
>”…Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership agreement
>with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50 percent
>economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting about five
>hours a day on Ukrainian television.
>
>”Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time on
>Ukraine’s commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including prime
>time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued despite a
>moratorium imposed by Parliament.
>
>”…The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a stock
>offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said the
>Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach.
>
>”A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in
>September raised questions about Rabinovich’s background and said he was
>’largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,’ according to
>a copy provided to The New York Times.” (End quote).
>
>Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty
>thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the Pres. of
>Ukraine and other Judases.
>
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On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>
>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>
>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>involved.

>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (William
>Markiewicz) wrote:
>
>>
>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>sperati wrote:
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>> —————————————————————————
>>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
>>
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
>>
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
>>
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
>>
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>>
>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:54:54, [email protected] wrote:

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court
of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.

The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully.

The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.

They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations…these same leaders did not join the people of their
community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs
.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
annihilation.

The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.

Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan.

The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
on the other hand.

An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
Jerusalem, June 22,1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
‘new line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
‘rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner’s duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.

Judge Halevi continues:
Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth – that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher’.

It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal. Kastner’s affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
affidavit given in favor of a war
criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements.”

Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproved accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:

All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June
1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:

If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
disclose.” (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an
appeal filed.

What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:

The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
institutions.”(Hecht, p. 268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
‘fully rehabilitated’.

The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
court – that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
‘fully rehabilitated’.

But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
‘collaboration’.

Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
Kastner. They joined him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, ‘The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree’. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
witness about the Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in
Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a
Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.

Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale…And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose
the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I
said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
demand the conclusion he has arrived at.

That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view…

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn
and did not cry out of the coming danger….

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)

In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did –
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different train for Palestine.

The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
Silberg:
I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others….

The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
an opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few – therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.’

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able
to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
money, bribery,etc. – and when this is the case and when one deals
with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
reject with complete certainty and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency
of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God?
Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith…

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the
news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…

We can sum up with three facts:

A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional
proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
proof of evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
eyes…I couldn’t base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive
light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial .

Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
the Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less
delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately
after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
‘rehabilitating’ him was delivered.

Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
of the Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
‘fantastic allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the
murder trial).

sven88

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:

>On 28 Sep 1998 01:44:48 -0000, Anonymous wrote:
>>Death to each and every kike in the JDL only after hours of torture.

On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:38:31, [email protected] wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:

Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal ‘You can have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this
group here’. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
or so Jews…That was the ‘gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner
(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
of Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict

Let the verdict of Judge