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Subject: Re: Crucifixions of murderers – a good idea???
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On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 00:53:50 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>The article below, culled from Deja News, certainly merits discussion.
>I feel that if similarly was done to criminals in North America and
>Europe, perhaps then there would no longer be such a shortage of
>organs for transplants???
>
>
>On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:38:15 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>For maximum effect, the crucifixions and executions should be
>>televised – not only in the Emirates, but worldwide.
>
>>Perhaps then the rest of the world will start to realise, that an
>>executed criminal, WILL NEVER RE-OFFEND!!!
>
>
>
>>On Fri, 12 Sep 1997 20:53:36 +0300, [email protected] (Eugene
>>Holman) wrote:
>
>>>Crucifixions to attract crowds
>>>© Kathy Evans, Guardian Weekly, 19970914
>
>>>A court in the Gulf emirate of Abu Dubai has sentenced two convicted
>>>murderers to be publicly crucified before being executed by firing squad on
>>>Friday.
>
>>> According to one report in the desert town of Alu Ain, the two are to be
>>>tied to crosses erected outside the town’s central prison for up to eight
>>>hours, as a public humiliation and deterrant to others. Other reports said
>>>the men would be tied to posts, or to palm trees, as recommended by the
>>>preliminary court.
>
>>> The two men were originally die to be crucified on Monday and executed on
>>>Tuesday, but local officials said that both sentences had been postponed
>>>until the Muslim weekend to encourage larger crowds to attend. The weekend
>>>begins on Thursday lunchtime and Al Ain offers little public entertainment.
>
>>> Majod faker Hurrein, a national of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and
>>>the Iranian-born Abdul Mushtaq were part of a gang in Al Ain which
>>>kidnapped bank customers and robbed them before killing them. Five people
>>>two UAE citizens and three Asians – were said to have been murdered. Other
>>>gang members have received long jail terms.
>
>>> The crucifixion has been confirmed by the UAE president, Sheikh Zayed bin
>>>Sultan al Nahayan.
>
>>> Local commentators said it was not known whether the prisoners would be
>>>given water. “The intention is not to torture them but too humiliate them
>>>for what they have done,” one commentator said. He added that the men would
>>>be protected by the police from public reaction. The execution by firing
>>>squad the next day will take place inside the prison.
>
>>> Crucifixion is rare in the gulf and virtuallty unknown in the Enmirates,
>>>which has a reputsation for liberal social traditions. Justice ministry
>>>officials said the punishemnt was “relatively commonplace in Saudi Arabia”.
>>> The sentences come as attention is focused on Muslim judicial procedures
>>>in the wake of the case of two British nurses facing beheading in Saudi
>>>Arabia. UAE commentators pointed out that in the Al Ain case, the men were
>>>serial killers whose crimes were particularly heinous and who endangered
>>>public security.
>
>>> “This is not medieval. Times might change in the rest of the world but
>>>the Koran does not,” said one resident.

From [email protected] Sat Oct 10 14:45:42 EDT 1998
Article: 255553 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: OyVay & NIZKOR Even Swindle JEWs as Tax Fraud??
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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>
>
>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>
>>
>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>> answer??
>>
>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>> [email protected]
>
>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>
>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> > letters?
>>
>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>
>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith’s butt.
>>
>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>
>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>
>>>> The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>
>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>
>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>
>>
>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>
>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>
>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>> >dramatizations.
>>
>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>
>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>
>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>
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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:03:57, Ed Kadach wrote:

>A I said previously, these are the things these savages are proud
>of…killing, looting, rioting, crying, etc.
>T. Marches
>
>[email protected] wrote in message
><[email protected]>…
>Check the crime stats you punk ass white boy,
>Black men are killing your white asses at high
>rates. You fucker cant win for shit, even the
>holy grail of rednecks “OLD MISS” got a black
>QB!
>
>Stupid fool!
>
>
>
>

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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

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On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>discussion
>
>
>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, [email protected] (Eugene
>>Holman) wrote:
>>
>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>here.
>>>
>>>
>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>
>>> None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>individual “survivors”, and no “survivor” claims actually to have
>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>demographic statistics.
>>>
>>> On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>
>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>
>>
>>> 2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>WORLD
>>>WAR TWO?
>>
>>> Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>race or national origin alone.
>>
>>> 3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>
>>> Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>
>>> On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German “death camps” were
>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>been fully justified.
>>
>>> 4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>
>>> Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>
>>> 5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>
>>> Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted.
>>
>>> En passant, the brief lifespan of the “Dachau death camp”
>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
>>
>>> 6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>
>>> No. The “gas chamber” exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz “gas chamber” for chemical
>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
>>
>>
>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>1949, long after the war???
>>
>>
>>> 7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN’T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>
>>> It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>
>>> 8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>
>>> Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>commonly used and available today.
>>
>>> 9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>
>>> Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>Hoess’ blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>cross examined.
>>
>>> 10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>
>>> About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>only are employed.
>>
>>> 11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>
>>> It can’t be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>
>>> 12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN’T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>
>>> Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>million figure as well.
>>
>>> 13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>NOT KNOW?
>>
>>> Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring.
>>
>>> 14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>
>>> About 300,000.
>>
>>> 15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>
>>> Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>
>>> 16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>DIED?
>>
>>> 5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a “Holocaust”.
>>
>>> 17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE “DEATH CAMPS” SAY THEY SAW
>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>
>>> A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that’s for sure.
>>
>>> 18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>
>>> No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust “experts” who claim otherwise are
>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>
>>> 19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>
>>> About two hours.
>>
>>> 20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>
>>> To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>
>>> 21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>
>>> About 430,600.
>>
>>> 22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>
>>> No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>when in heavy operation.
>>
>>> 23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>CORPSE?
>>
>>> After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>
>>> 24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>
>>> That remains to be “explained”. Six million bodies would
>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>
>>> 25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>
>>> No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>burned.
>>
>>> 26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>WHOLE “HOLOCAUST” ISSUE?
>>
>>> A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
>>
>>> Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war’s end, the
>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>claiming that the Red Cross was “full of Nazi sympathizers”. This
>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>
>>> 27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>
>>> Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>published text.
>>
>>> In 1950 Anne Frank’s father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>>
>>> 28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>
>>> Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a “Nazi SS
>>>man” about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
>>
>>> (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust “experts” is not surprising in view of the
>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin’s butcheries
>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay’s
>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>
>>> 29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>
>>> Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>
>>> 30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>
>>> None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>Zip. Nada.
>>
>>> 31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>
>>> Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>to silence him.
>>
>>
>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>
>>
>>> 32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>
>>> Slightly less than four million.
>>
>>> 33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>NAZIS?
>>
>>> Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>kill them.
>>
>>> 34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN’T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>
>>> After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>they are all accounted for.
>>
>>> 35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>TODAY?
>>
>>> It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>sums of “guilt money”, especially from the German government. It
>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>billion dollars in assorted “Holocaust reparations” and the ante is
>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>
>>> 36. ARE FILMS LIKE “HOLOCAUST”, “SCHINDLER’S LIST”, AND “THE
>>>WINDS OF WAR” DOCUMENTARIES?
>>
>>> Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>creative and financial sectors of film making.
>>
>>> Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg’s
>>>production of “Schindler’s List” was sanitized to the point of being
>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>
>>> 37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>
>>> Over 100, with more in the works.
>>
>>> 38. BUT AREN’T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>
>>> Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>
>>> 39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>
>>> A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor’s Internet playgroups that they
>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>
>>> The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
>>
>>> Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>Revisionist bookseller’s offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel’s home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>prison and torture in Germany.
>>
>>> An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the “crime” of writing
>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt’s “crime” was writing a
>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>been imprisoned so many times he’s lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>
>>> THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people’s
>>>country, and then to slaughter that country’s original inhabitants at
>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>
>>> 40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>
>>> No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>
>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>[email protected] – W.S.
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>> —————————————————————————
>>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
>>
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
>>
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
>>
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
>>
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew> could
>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>>
>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:24:27 GMT, [email protected]
(Reginald Higham Cornelius McTavish) wrote:

>”There are no English, French, German or American Jews, but only Jews
>living in England, France, Germany or America.” Chaim Weizmann,
>Zionist Leader, on August 29, 1897, at the First Zionist Congress at
>Basle, Switzerland.
>
>The roots of Chaim Weizmann’s Zionism:
>
>The Zionist Jews were another group that laid
>its plan in Russia as a part of the new re-
>orientation of Russian Jewry after the collapse
>of Haskalah and the assassination (1881) of
>Alexander II. “On November 6, 1884, for the first
>time in history, a Jewish international assembly
>was held at Kattowitz, near the Russian frontier,
>where representatives from all classes and
>different countries met and decided to colonize
>Palestine. . .” (The Haskalah Movement in Russia,
>p. 285). For a suggestion of the solidarity of
>purpose between the Jewish Bund, which was the
>core of the Communist Party, and early Zionism,
>see Grayzel (op. cit., p. 662). “Henceforth a
>heightened sense of race-consciousness takes the
>place formerly held by religion and is soon to
>develop into a concrete nationalism with Zion as
>its goal” (Graetz-Raisin, Vol. p. 168).
>………………………………………………..
>
>Take very special notice of:
>
>”For a suggestion of the solidarity of purpose
>between the Jewish Bund, which was the
>core of the Communist Party, and early Zionism,
>see Grayzel (op. cit., p. 662).”
>
>Extra on Jewish Bund:
>
>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then
>included Lithuania, Ukraine (A History of Ukraine,
>Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University Press, 1941,
>passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of
>the Russian Bolshevik party:
>
>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged
>in revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and
>their energy made them the spearhead of the Party
>(Article on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc.
>Brit., Vol. III, pp 824-827).
>
>
>—-
>Visit the Official Doc Tavish Library at:
>
>http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc

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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
Slepokura) wrote:

>In article <898[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>
>> [email protected] “David Goldman” writes:
>>
>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>> > >> Go peddlle your crud somewhere else you dirty little scorpion.
>> >
>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>> in about 1980 in History Today (I’ve got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>Orest Slepokura:
>
>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>entiled *Wir Juden*
>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler’s rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews.
>
>”[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost,” he wrote gleefully. “The only
>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk.” See:
>
>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>option for Jews. Said Prinz: “We are not unhappy about this.”
>
>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>
>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>Zionist Organization.
>
>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.

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On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:38:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Nazi – Zionist Collaboration
>
>
> Nazi-Zionist Collaboration
>
>……..or how zionists used the bones of their dead to make money and to steal Palestine from the Palestinians .
>
>Would you use the bones of your dead as an excuse to make money ? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>Would you trade the lives of your fellow citizens in return for other peoples’ lands? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>Would you collaborate with the Nazis while claiming they persecuted you ? The “jewish” zionists would and did..
>
>Did you know that the only flag of an International Organization allowed to fly in Nazi Germany was that of the Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD) ?
>That shows how closely the Zionists collaborated with Hitler. Read this to learn more ………….
>
>
>
> Zionism and the Holocaust
>
> Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>
>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>
>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots were
>firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for liberation
>through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved prominence.
>
>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces with
>the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a Jewish
>state.
>
>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a prominence and
>centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being selected as the
>choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the ‘Jewish problem’. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that affected the lives of
>many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some other countries in Europe)
>into a real option to be considered by German Jews.
>
>The best example of this was the ‘Transfer Agreement’ of 1934. Immediately after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way
>disabling the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull out, the campaign would collapse.
>
>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the ‘Jewish problem’, and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>
>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently
>being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence unZionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build…
>
>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>was the signature of the ‘Transfer Agreement’ with the Nazi authorities during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed to
>get Germany’s Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property out of
>the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis – ED). The
>Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts ‘helping’ Jews to leave
>the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the regime to
>be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies, the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now the Jews
>come and agree with them.
>
>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel
>to Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader, Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the ‘new Jew’ of Zionism, a Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>
>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>
>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen’s play PERDITION is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature
>of events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania, leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the
>western Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in
>occupied Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to
>appoint Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi
>authorities. Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible
>different from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers,
>their names were Hungarian – how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in
>Hungary, most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to
>believe any statements by Nazi officials.
>
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS, with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian
>police, could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under
>no illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before he
>even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>
>The Committee faced a simple choice – to tell the Jews of Hungary about their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>
>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of destruction: the trains of ‘prominents’ which Eichmann promised to Kastner – a
>promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain: allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent collaboration over
>the death of almost a million Jews.
>
>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few
>friends. No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million
>who died in Auschwitz.
>
>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or
>elsewhere, did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>
>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and still
>are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews and non-Jews,
>are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists, Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>
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>On 8 Sep 1997 17:08:22 GMT, “Jan” wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:45:54 -0700, Tom Davenport >>> wrote:
>
>>> >ZIONIST MASSACRES IN 1948: New evidence
>
>>> >The following article (3160 words!) was published in the Hebrew daily Ha’ir
>>> >on 6 May 1992. It contains new revelations about war crimes committed by
>>> >the Zionist forces in 1948 against Palestinian Arabs.
>
>>> >There are a number of reasons why the publication of this information is
>>> >important:
>
>>> >1. It shows once more and through the pen of Israeli historians what
>>> >motivated the Palestinian Arabs to flee in 1948.
>
>>> >2. It shows how the Zionist establishment has attempted and still attempts
>>> >to hide the truth about the massacres of Palestinians in the 1948 War.
>
>>> >3. It exposes the fallacy according to which it was mainly right-wing
>>> >Zionists (the terrorist groups IZL and LEHI led by Menahem Begin and
>>> >Yitzhak Shamir) who committed atrocities against Palestinian Arabs in
>>> >1948.
>>> >In fact, most atrocities and massacres were committed by ‘nice Jewish boys
>>> >and girls’, from the Labour movement, may of whom grew up in kibbutzim
>>> >in a humanist environment.
>
>>> >4. It exposes the myth, entertained in the West, according to which
>>> >Israel’s practices towards Palestinians worsened when the right-wing
>>> >Likud came to power.
>
>>> >5. It documents the development of a growing awareness among Israeli
>>> >intellectuals of the need to face the past with honesty. This is a
>>> >rather recent and salutary phenomenon.
>
>>> >An appendix to the article includes summary descriptions of some other
>>> >massacres (published along the article in Ha’ir).
>
>>> >Elias Davidsson translated from Hebrew and added some explanatory notes
>
>
>>>—————————————————————————
>
>>> > NOT ONLY DEIR YASSIN
>
>>> > By Guy Erlich, Ha’ir, 6 May 1992
>
>>> >After Lydda (1) gave up the fight, a group of stubborn Arab fighters
>>> >barricaded themselves in the small mosque. The commander of the
>>> >Palmach’s(2) 3d Battalion, Moshe Kalman, gave an order to fire a number
>>> >of blasts towards the mosque. The soldiers who forced their way into the
>>> >mosque were surprised to find no resistance. On the walls of the mosque
>>> >they found the remains of the Arab fighters. A group of between twenty to
>>> >fifty Arab inhabitants was brought to clean up the mosque and bury the
>>> >remains. After they finished their work, they were also shot into the
>>> >graves they dug.
>
>>> >The Jewish American journalist Dan Kurtzman, heard this testimony from
>>> >Moshe Kalman, who has meanwhile died, while he was writing his book ‘In
>>> >the Beginning 1948 (Bereshit 1948)’ about the War of Independence. As
>>> >Kurtzman did not want to hurt the State of Israel, he did not include this
>>> >testimony, but told this story to Israeli historian Aryeh Yitzhaki, when
>>> >they met in the IDF archives, when Kurtzman was there working on his
>>> >book.
>>> >Kurtzman, who is now visiting Israel in connection with his new book
>>> >(incidentally, these days a new edition of his older book is coming out),
>>> >confirmed – after some hesitation – that he heard this testimony from
>>> >Moshe Kalman.
>
>>> >Since its establishment, the State of Israel keeps a conspiracy of silence
>>> >concerning massacres committed in the War of Independence (4). The only
>>> >massacre acknowledged in official publications is that of Deir Yassin,
>>> >perhaps because it was perpetrated by the IZL (Irgun). Books and press
>>> >reports have referred to dozens of cases, but only partially and
>>> >incompletely. Yitzhaki corroborates this impression: ‘I read all the
>>> >documents in the IDF archives written about the War of Independence. In
>>> >the course of years I became especially alert to anything concerning the
>>> >massacres.’ Yitzhaki is a lecturer in the Bar Ilan University [Tel Aviv]
>>> >in the Faculty of Eretz Yisrael Studies (5) and is also senior lecturer in
>>> >the field of military history in IDF courses for officers. In the sixties he
>>> >served as director of the IDF archives within the framework of his IDF
>>> >service in his capacity as historian.
>
>>> >Yitzhaki assembled all the testimonies and documents concerning the
>>> >subject matter and waited for the right time to publish. ‘The time has come’ he
>>> >says, ‘for a generation has passed, and it is now possible to face the
>>> >ocean of lies (6) in which we were brought up. In almost every conquered
>>> >village in the War of Independence, acts were committed, which are
>>> >defined as war crimes, such as indiscriminate killings, massacres and rapes. I
>>> >believe that such things end by surfacing. The only question is how to
>>> >face such evidence.’
>
>>> >According to Yitzhaki, about ten major massacres were committed in the
>>> >course of the War of Independence (i.e. more than fifty victims in each
>>> >massacre) and about hundred smaller massacres (of individuals or small
>>> >groups). According to him, these massacres had an enormous impact on the
>>> >Arab population, by inducing their from the country.
>
>>> >Yitzhaki: ‘For many Israelis it was easier to find consolation in the lie,
>>> >that the Arabs left the country under orders from their leaders. This is an
>>> >absolute fabrication. The fundamental cause of their flight was their fear
>>> >from Israeli retribution and this fear was not at all imaginary. From
>>> >almost each report in the IDF archives concerning the conquest of Arab
>>> >villages between May and July 1948 – when clashes with Arab villagers were
>>> >the fiercest – a smell of massacre emanates. Sometimes the report tells
>>> >about blatant massacres which were committed after the battle, sometimes
>>> >the massacres are committed in the heat of battle and while the villages
>>> >are “cleansed”. Some of my colleagues, such as Me’ir Pa’il, don’t consider
>>> >such acts as massacres. In my opinion there is no other term for such acts
>>> >than massacres. This was at the time the rule of the game. It was a dirty
>>> >war on both sides. This phenomenon spread out in the field; there were
>>> >no explicit orders to exterminate. In the first phase a village was usually
>>> >subjected to heavy artillery from distance. Then soldiers would assault the
>>> >village. After giving up resistance, the Arab fighters would withdraw while
>>> >attempting to snipe at the advancing forces. Some would not flee and would
>>> >remain in the village, mainly women and old people. In the course of
>>> >cleansing we used to hit them. One was ‘tailing the fugitives’, as it used
>>> >to be called (‘mezanvim baborchim’). There was no established battle
>>> >procedure as today, namely that when blowing up a house, one has first to
>>> >check whether civilians are still inside. In a typical battle report about
>>> >the conquest of a village we find: ‘We cleansed a village, shot in any
>>> >direction where resistance was noticed. After the resistance ended, we also
>>> >had to shoot people so that they would leave or who looked dangerous’.
>
>>> >The historian Uri Milstein, a myth-shatterer, corroborates Yitzhaki’s
>>> >assessment regarding the massacres’ extent and goes even further. ‘If
>>> >Yitzhaki claims that almost in every village there were murders, then I
>>> >maintain that even before the establishment of the State, each battle
>>> >ended
>>> >with a massacre. In all Israel’s wars massacres were committed but I
>>> >have
>>> >no doubt that the War of Independence was the dirtiest of them all. All
>>> >over the world, massacres constitute an integral part of the norm of war
>>> >and it is in fact the fundamental basis of human conduct in a situation
>>> >of
>>> >battle. The idea behind a massacre is to inflict a shock on the enemy,
>>> >to
>>> >paralyze the enemy. In the War of Independence everybody massacred
>>> >everybody, but most of the action happened between Jews and
>>> >Palestinians.’
>>> >
>>> >Milstein adds: ‘In my opinion, the regular armies of Arab states were
>>> >less
>>> >barbaric than the Jews and the Palestinians. Until the entry into the
>>> >battle of the Arab armies, the concept of taking prisoners was unknown.
>>> >The
>>> >regular armies, especially that of Jordan and Egypt, were the first in
>>> >the
>>> >region who did not kill prisoners, as a matter of principle. Not that
>>> >they
>>> >were exceptional, but they killed the least of all, relatively speaking.
>>> >The Jordanian Legion even succeeded to stop Palestinians of massacring
>>> >Jews
>>> >in Gush Etzion, at least in a part of this area. The education in the
>>> >Yishuv (7) at that time had it that the Arabs would do anything to kill
>>> >us
>>> >and therefore we had to massacre them. A substantial part of the Jewish
>>> >public was convinced that the most cherished wish of say, a nine-year
>>> >old
>>> >Arab child, was to exterminate us. This belief bordered on paranoia.’
>>> >
>>> >A careful study reveals that until today over twenty massacres were
>>> >publicly reported. The testimonies were not published in one collection,
>>> >a
>>> >fact which adds to this phenomenon another dimension. At least eight
>>> >massacres were described by Benny Morris in his book ‘The Birth of the
>>> >Palestine Refugee Problem’. Two cases were reported in Milstein’s books.
>>> >Two cases are reported in the book of Palestinian historian Arif
>>> >al-Arif.
>>> >The rest were reported in novels, memories and the press. But it appears
>>> >that at least eight more massacres were committed which are reported
>>> >here
>>> >for the first time. Two of them were discovered by Yitzhaki, three by
>>> >Milstein, one case was revealed by Kurtzman and was presented in the
>>> >introduction to this reportage. One case was brought to our knowledge by
>>> >a
>>> >kibbutz member who wishes to remain anonymous and one more case was
>>> >revealed by Dov Yirmiya.
>>> >
>>> >The testimonies concerning the massacres, revealed here for the first
>>> >time
>>> >by Yitzhaki, are kept in the IDF archives. Those who wish to study the
>>> >documents in question confront a blank refusal. The director, Miki
>>> >Kaufman:
>>> >’If you are looking for what I believe you are looking for, then you can
>>> >forget it. In any case, just keep in mind that we are reading over any
>>> >documents before you are allowed to see them and we cull out material
>>> >that
>>> >you should not see’.
>>> >
>>> >A person who already had to face this barrage is Benny Morris. He
>>> >addressed
>>> >himself to the State Archivist to get a report by the
>>> >government-nominated
>>> >Shapira Committee, on killings in the War of Independence, but his
>>> >request
>>> >was denied.
>>> >
>>> >’The Archivist refused to let me see the report and I went then to the
>>> >Supreme Court. According to the [State] Archives Law (1953), access is
>>> >open
>>> >to documents concerning [government] policies and political matters
>>> >after
>>> >30 years and documents related to security matters after 50 years. As
>>> >the
>>> >report by the Shapira committee is a political document issued by the
>>> >Ministry of Justice, it was to be accessible by the public. But after I
>>> >entered my request to the State Archivist and to the courts, the State
>>> >Prosecutor and the Archivist made me a trick. It appeared that by
>>> >convening
>>> >a special meeting of at least two Cabinet members – in this case Arens
>>> >and
>>> >Sharir – it was possible to extend indefinitely the classified status of
>>> >any archived document by arguing that disclosure might endanger state
>>> >security. The meeting was duly convened and the document was
>>> >reclassified
>>> >(…)’
>>> >
>>> >But Yitzhaki kept the testimonies. The first case he presents happened
>>> >in
>>> >Tel Gezer. A soldier of the Kiryati Brigade (…) testifies that his
>>> >colleagues got hold of ten Arab men and two Arab women, a young one and
>>> >an
>>> >old one. All the men were murdered. The young woman was raped and her
>>> >destiny was unknown. The old woman was murdered. Yitzhaki tells that he
>>> >discovered the testimony in a specific folder containing testimonies
>>> >from
>>> >Guard Units (Kheil Mishmar) in the IDF archives. Later he also obtained
>>> >an
>>> >oral testimony about this event from a person who wished to remain
>>> >anonymous.
>>> >
>>> >Another case happened in Ashdod. Towards the end of August 1948, the
>>> >Giv’ati Brigade executed the ‘Cleansing Campaign’ (Mivtza Nikayon) in
>>> >Ashdod’s dunes. This happened after the forced landing of an Israeli
>>> >plane
>>> >in the area and the killing of his eight passengers by locals. A company
>>> >of
>>> >mounted cavalry, jeeps and Giv’ati fighters went to comb the area. In
>>> >the
>>> >course of this action, and according to a conservative estimate, ten
>>> >farmers (‘fellahin’) were murdered. Yitzahki says that evidence about
>>> >that
>>> >can be found in the campaign chronicle of Giv’ati in the IDF archives
>>> >and
>>> >in the second chapter of the book on the Giv’ati Brigade.
>>> >
>>> >’Apart from these cases’, says Yitzhaki, ‘there are more cases described
>>> >in
>>> >IDF’s archives, but I don’t want to disclose them at this stage. I will
>>> >yet
>>> >write a book.’
>>> >
>>> >The historian Uri Milstein presented in his book series ‘The History of
>>> >the
>>> >War of Independence’ a number of massacres. Three more cases came to his
>>> >knowledge after he finished writing. One case happened in Ayn Zaytoon.
>>> >According to Milstein two massacres happened there in addition to the
>>> >case
>>> >described by Netiva Ben Yehuda in her book ‘Within the Bounds’ (mibe’ad
>>> >la’avutot). Milstein possesses a testimony from a soldier named Aharon
>>> >Yo’eli: ‘Three men from Safad came to Ayn Zaytoon, they took 23 Arabs,
>>> >told
>>> >them they were murderers and gangsters, took from them their watches and
>>> >put them in their pockets, led them over the hills and killed them. This
>>> >was the revenge of the Jews of Safad. I understood that our commanders
>>> >were
>>> >looking for additional killers to execute such jobs. Not everybody in
>>> >Safad
>>> >was a Hassid [strictly observing Jew]. In my opinion this was not the
>>> >execution of prisoners but the killing of Arab murderers. The rest were
>>> >expelled in the direction of the Germak that same evening and to make
>>> >them
>>> >go fast, we shot at them.’ The second case was reported to Milstein by a
>>> >soldier named Yitzhak Golan, as he referred to thirty prisoners who were
>>> >brought to interrogation in Har Kna’an: ‘The men of the Intelligence
>>> >Unit
>>> >interrogated them and after the interrogation the question came up what
>>> >to
>>> >do with them. We were told to take them down to the Rosh Pina police
>>> >station. On the way they attempted to escape so we shot at them. There
>>> >was
>>> >no alternative. The danger was that they might reach Safad and would
>>> >tell
>>> >there how few weapons and manpower we had. It is possible that they were
>>> >killed chained. Next morning a platoon was sent to bury them’.
>>> >
>>> >Another case happened in Caesarea. In February 1948 the Fourth Battalion
>>> >of
>>> >the Palmach forces, under the command of Josef Tabenkin (8), conquered
>>> >Caesarea. According to Milstein, all those who did not escape from the
>>> >village were killed. Milstein gleaned testimonies about this fact from
>>> >fighters who participated in the conquest.
>>> >
>>> >A member of Kibbutz Be’eri, who was assigned to the Guard Milices for a
>>> >short time, reveals another unpublished case about the murder of an Arab
>>> >soldier: ‘We were in the strong point in the Wadi Ara area, near Giv’at
>>> >Ada. Not far away was a post of Palestinians who fired from time to time
>>> >at
>>> >us. One night we raided their post and brought back a prisoner for
>>> >interrogation. One of the soldiers of the Guard Milices took the
>>> >prisoner
>>> >after interrogation, beheaded him and with a knife scalped the head. No
>>> >one
>>> >present tried to stop him. He then tied the skin to a high pole facing
>>> >the
>>> >Palestinian post to inspire a deadly fear among the Palestinians. This
>>> >soldier was later brought to the battalion commander for trial.’
>>> >
>>> >On 20 May 1948 the Karmeli Brigade conquered the village Kabri. Dov
>>> >Yirmiya, who was a company commander in the 21th battalion, tells:
>>> >’Kabri
>>> >was conquered without a fight. Almost all inhabitants fled. One of the
>>> >soldiers, Yehuda Reshef, who was together with his brother among the few
>>> >rescapees from the Yehi’am convoy, got hold of a few youngsters who did
>>> >not
>>> >escape, probably seven, ordered them to fill up some ditches dug as an
>>> >obstacle and then lined them up and fired at them with a machine gun. A
>>> >few
>>> >died but some of the wounded succeeded to escape. The battalion
>>> >commander
>>> >did not react. Receive was a brave fighter and as a rescapee from the
>>> >Yehi’am convoy, enjoyed special status in the battalion. He advanced
>>> >later
>>> >to the grade of Brigadier General. He justified his action as an act of
>>> >revenge.’
>>> >
>>> >’When the action ended, we left, namely the battalion commander Dov
>>> >Tschitchiss, Education Officer Tzadok Eshel, the driver and myself. We
>>> >drove over fields to Nahariya. While driving we saw refugees escaping to
>>> >the North. The battalion commander ordered the driver to stop and went
>>> >with
>>> >the driver and the Education Officer to chase an Arab who was escaping
>>> >with
>>> >a girl eight or nine years old. I heard shots and had scarcely the time
>>> >to
>>> >understand what happened. When they returned, the battalion commander
>>> >declared: We killed them. I asked: The girl too? And he answered to me:
>>> >No,
>>> >no, we did not kill the girl’.
>>> >
>>> >The Education Officer, Tzadok Eshel, has already forgotten about the
>>> >episode. ‘In our Carmeli Brigade’, he said, ‘we did not commit
>>> >massacres. I
>>> >can tell you about the massacre that the IZL people did in Haifa. It was
>>> >typical for the IZL and the LEHI, not to us. It was totally outside our
>>> >way
>>> >of thinking. There was the case of an officer who wanted to loot a
>>> >village
>>> >but they did not allow him.’ After hearing the testimony of Yermiya,
>>> >Eshel
>>> >changed his version: ‘Did I tell you about this case, no?…Probably I
>>> >forgot…Yes, there was in fact one case where we drove in a jeep and an
>>> >officer, I don’t remember who, but I don’t think it was the battalion
>>> >commander, wanted to shoot down an Arab with a girl. I told him that if
>>> >he
>>> >will fire at them, I will shoot at him. When we returned to the jeep I
>>> >felt
>>> >good that I succeeded to stop such a thing.’ – Yirmiya, in his testimony
>>> >mentions [however] shots’, -‘I don’t at all remember that I was in the
>>> >jeep. I was in the area. I tell you, you better leave these things.
>>> >There
>>> >were no such things.’
>>> >
>>>
>>>—————————————————————————
>>
>>> >
>>> >Notes by Elias Davidsson
>>> >
>>> > (1) Lydda: An Arabic town between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Most of
>>> > its inhabitants were expelled in 1948 under written orders by
>>> > Yitzhak Rabin.
>>> >
>>> > (2) Palmach: Shock troops of the Labour-controlled Hagana forces.
>>> >
>>> > (3) IDF: Israel Defense Forces.
>>> >
>>> > (4) The War of Independence is the name given by Zionists. The
>>> > Palestinian Arab call this war the Naqba (The Tragedy). Less
>>> > loaded names might be The First Zionist-Palestinian War, or the
>>> > War of 1947-1948.
>>> >
>>> > (5) Eretz Yisrael: The Hebrew name for the area of Mandatory
>>> > Palestine (from the Jordan to the Mediterranean sea).
>>> >
>>> > (6) One of the most potent lies, disseminated in the whole world,
>>> > was that the Palestinian Arabs left their homes under explicit
>>> > orders by Arab leaders outside Palestine. There is no evidence
>>> > for this claim, but it has served Israel very well for at least
>>> > 15 years after its establishment, especially in the West.
>>> >
>>> > (7) Yishuv: Jewish society in Mandatory Palestine.
>>> >
>>> > (8) One of the leaders of the leftist Zionist Ahdut Avoda
>>> > movement.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Apartheid: Israeli Style
>>
>>
>>Definition [Bosman et al- Bilingual Dictionary: Afrikaans-English&Eng.-Afr]
>>apartheid: apartness, separatness; racial separation or segregation
>>
>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli Prime Minister, in a speech 23 January 1995 in
>>Jerusalem: “We want to attain separation between us and you. … In the
>>course of the near and the far future, we will attain a separation between
>>us and you, but not on the basis of the lines that existed prior to the
>>Six-Day War.”
>>
>>Historical Background:
>>
>>From the late Roman Empire (about 200 AD) until around 1780 Jewish
>>communities held considerable legal powers over their members. The precepts
>>of religion governed the details of daily behavior in all aspects of life
>>(both social and private) among the Jew themselves as well as their
>>relations with non-Jews. Rabbinical courts had the power of coercion
>>supported and encouraged by the state authorities in both Christian and
>>Muslim realms. The observance of the religious laws of Judaism, as well as
>>their inculcation through education, were enforced on Jews by physical
>>coercion.
>>
>>With the advent of the modern state the Jewish community lost its power of
>>coercion- to punish or intimidate the individual Jew. The bonds of one of
>>the most closed of all closed societies, one of the most totalitarian
>>societies in the entire history of mankind, were broken. This act of
>>liberation came from outside. Thus, it was easy to ally the cause of
>>reaction with patriotism. It was exceedingly easy among the Jews,
>>especially in Israel, to mount a very effective attack against all the
>>notions and ideals of humanism and the ‘rule of law’ (not to mention
>>democracy) as something ‘un-Jewish’ (as in fact they are, in an historical
>>sense)- principles which may be used in the ‘Jewish interest,’ but which
>>have no validity against the ‘Jewish interest’ (as for example when the
>>Arabs invoke these same principles).
>>
>>Thus, the word ‘Jewry’ and its cognates describe two different and even
>>contrasting social groups: one the authoritarian society of “Classical
>>Judaism,” and the other the Jew freed from the tyranny of his own religion-
>>free to read and write books in Hebrew not approved by the rabbis; free to
>>eat non-kosher foods; free to ignore the numerous absurd taboos regulating
>>sexual life, etc. However, because of current Israeli policies (both Labor
>>and Likud) the continuum between the two is fast disappearing.
>>
>>Religious Background:
>>
>>Judaism is not a ‘biblical religion’ in the Christian sense where the Bible
>>is the center and legal authority. In Judaism the Old Testament has no such
>>place in that in matters of belief there is great latitude. However, the
>>legal interpretation of sacred texts is rigidly fixed by the Talmud rather
>>than by the Bible. Orthodox Judaism regards the Old Testament as a text of
>>immutable formulas, whose recitation is an act of great merit, but where
>>meaning is wholly determined elsewhere.
>>
>>The legal system of the Talmud is totally comprehensive, authoritarian and
>>capable of infinite development, but without change to its dogmatic base.
>>The basic rules for every problem are stated dogmatically and cannot be
>>questioned.
>>
>>The cabbala- Jewish mysticism developed in the 12th- 13th Centuries. The
>>Jewish Enlightenment had to fight this mysticism and its influence. In
>>latter-day Jewish Orthodoxy, especially among the rabbis, the influence of
>>the cabbala has remained predominant. The right-wing settler movement Gush
>>Emunim is inspired to a great extent by cabbalistic ideas.
>>
>>Halakhah- legal system of classical Judaism (c. 800-1870), continued in the
>>form of Orthodox Judaism and primarily based on the Babylonian Talmud.
>>
>>”Classical Judaism:”
>>
>>The Talmud and post-Talmudic rabbinical law recognize converts to Judaism,
>>provided the conversion is performed by authorized rabbis in a correct
>>manner. For females the “correct manner” includes their inspection by three
>>rabbis while naked in a ‘bath of purification.’
>>
>>In the Hatanya (the fundamental book of the Habbad movement- one of the
>>most important branches of Hassidism and until recently headed up by the
>>so-called Lubavitcher rabbi M.M. Schneurssohn of New York) all non-Jews are
>>totally satanic creatures ‘in whom there is absolutely no good.’ Even a
>>non-Jewish embryo is qualitatively different from a Jewish one. The very
>>existence of a non-Jew is ‘inessential,’ whereas all of creation was
>>created solely for the sake of the Jews.
>>
>>The Halakhah places the duty of saving a life of a fellow Jew above all
>>other religious obligations and interdictions except the prohibitions of
>>the three most heinous sins of adultery (including incest), murder and
>>idolatry.
>>
>>As for Gentiles the basic talmudic principal is that their lives must not
>>be saved, though it is forbidden to murder them outright. The Talmud
>>expresses this in the maxim ‘Gentiles are neither to be lifted (out of a
>>well) nor hauled down (into it.’ In the words of Maimonides:
>>
>>As for Gentiles with whom we are not at war . . . their death must not be
>>caused, but it is forbidden to save them if they are at the point of death;
>>if, for example, one of them is seen falling down into the sea, he should
>>not be rescued . . .
>>
>>Maimonides, an accomplished physician, reasoned that it was forbidden to
>>heal a Gentile patient, even for money. However, he continues, ‘if you fear
>>him or his hostility, cure him for payment, though you are forbidden to do
>>so without payment.’
>>
>>In the Jewish religion, the murder of a Jew is-
>>* a capital offense
>>* one of the three most heinous sins (idolatry & adultery being the others)
>>* demands punishment beyond the limits of the ordinary administration of
>> justice
>>
>>However-
>>
>>* a Jew who indirectly causes the death of another Jew is only guilty of a
>> sin against the “laws of Heaven”- to be punished by God, not man.
>>* a Jew who kills a Gentile is also only guilty of a sin against the “laws
>> of Heaven” and thus, not punishable by a court
>>* a Jew who indirectly causes the death of a Gentile is not at all guilty
>> of a sin
>>* an act leading indirectly to the death of a Gentile is forbidden if it
>> may cause increased hostility towards Jews
>>* a Gentile murder under Jewish jurisdiction must be executed whether the
>> victim is Jewish or not
>>* a Gentile who kills another Gentile can escape punishment by converting
>> to Judaism
>>
>>Adultery committed by a Jewish woman is a capital offense for both parties.
>>The Halakhah presumes all Gentiles to be promiscuous. Whether a Gentile
>>woman is married or not is of no difference since the concept of matrimony
>>does not apply to Gentiles. Thus, adultery does not apply to intercourse
>>between a Jewish man and a Gentile woman. Rather, the Talmud equates this
>>act to the sin of bestiality. (And by similar reasoning Gentiles are
>>presumed not to have certain paternity.)
>>
>>Since there is no matrimony for Gentiles, a married woman is forbidden to
>>the Gentiles, but a Jew is exempted.
>>
>>Even if raped by the Jewish man, the Gentile woman must be executed because
>>through her a Jew got in trouble. The Jew must be flogged.
>>
>>All Gentile women are presumed by the Halakhah to be prostitutes.
>>
>>The Yiddish word shaygets and its feminine form shiksa derive from the
>>Hebrew word sheqetz which the Meggido Modern Hebrew-English Dictionary
>>(published in Israel) defines as: “unclean animal; loathsome creature,
>>abomination, wretch, unruly youngster; Gentile youngster.”
>>
>>In Christian Spain in the 12th Century Jewish women who cohabited with
>>Gentiles had their noses cut off by rabbis. By such a punishment she would
>>lose her beauty and her Gentile lover would grow to hate her the rabbis
>>reasoned.
>>
>>Stealing (without violence) is forbidden- “even from a Gentile.”
>>
>>Robbery (with violence) is forbidden if the victim is Jewish. Robbery of a
>>Gentile by a Jew is not forbidden outright. It is permitted when the
>>Gentiles are under Jewish rule. Thus the robbery of Palestinian land and
>>property in Israel is permitted for it is backed by overwhelming Jewish
>>power.
>>
>>In the daily morning prayer, every devout Jew blesses God for not making
>>him a Gentile.
>>
>>Gentiles are presumed to be congenital liars and may not testify in
>>rabbinical court.
>>
>>According to the Halakhah, if they can prevent it, Jews must not allow a
>>Gentile to be appointed to a position of authority, however small, over
>>Jews.
>>
>>The Talmud requires that a Jew who passes near an inhabited non-Jewish
>>dwelling must ask God to destroy it. But if the building is already in
>>ruins he must thank the Lord of Vengeance. Later, due to changing
>>circumstances the rule was confined to churches and places of worship of
>>other religions (except Islam). The rule was further embroidered by custom:
>>it becoming necessary to spit (usually 3 times) upon encountering a church
>>or a crucifix.
>>
>>The Talmud commands every Jew that passes a non-Jewish cemetery to curse
>>the mothers of the dead.
>>
>>It is a grave sin to deceive in any manner a Jew. While direct deception
>>against a Gentile is forbidden, an indirect deception is allowed- unless it
>>is likely to cause hostility towards Jews or their religion.
>>
>>While it is forbidden to defraud a Jew by selling or buying at an
>>unrea-sonalble price, it does not apply to Gentiles.
>>
>>The Talmud forbids a Jew, on pain of severe punishment, from taking
>>interest on a loan made to another Jew, while making it a religious duty to
>>take as much interest as possible on a loan made to a Gentile.
>>
>>The Talmud forbids a Jew from returning a lost article to the Gentile who
>>lost it.
>>
>>The Talmud forbids giving a gift to a Gentile.
>>
>>”Redeemed” land is that land which has passed from non-Jewish ownership
>>into Jewish hands. That land which belongs to non-Jews is considered to be
>>”unredeemed.” Therefore, the Utopia of the ‘Jewish ideology’ adopted by
>>Israel is a land which is wholly ‘redeemed’ and none of it is owned or
>>worked by non-Jews.
>>
>>The Talmud, in addition to a series of nasty sexual allegations against
>>Jesus, states that his punishment in hell is to be immersed in boiling
>>excrement.
>>
>>The Talmud instructs Jews to burn, publicly if possible, any copy of the
>>New Testament they can get their hands on. On 23 March 1980 hundreds of
>>copies of the New Testament were publicly burnt in Jerusalem under the
>>auspices of Yad Le’akhim, a Jewish religious organization subsidized by the
>>Israeli Ministry of Religion.
>>
>>Talmudic law allows for the kidnapping of Gentiles by Jews.
>>
>>Maimonides allowed Jews, in the name of he Jewish religion, to abduct
>>Gentile children into slavery.
>>
>>The Talmud forbids a Jew from enjoying the light of a candle lit by a
>>Gentile on the Sabbath- unless the Gentile lit it for his own use before
>>the Jew entered the room.
>>
>>A religious Jew must not drink any wine in whose preparation a Gentile had
>>any part. Wine in an open bottle, even if prepared wholly by Jews, becomes
>>banned if a Gentile even so much as touches the bottle or passes a hand
>>over it.
>>
>>According to the Halakhah ‘mercy’ means mercy towards Jews only.
>>
>>Israel:
>>
>>Israeli Law
>>
>>The routine means for enforcing discrimination in everyday life is the ID
>>card which must be carried at all times. These ID cards state the official
>>’nationality’ of a person, which may be ‘Jewish,’ ‘Arab,’ ‘Druze’ and so
>>forth, but not ‘Israeli.’ The Ministry of the Interior will give no reason
>>except to state that “it was decided not to recognize an Israeli
>>nationality.”
>>
>>By official definition, Israel ‘belongs’ to persons who are defined by the
>>Israeli authorities as ‘Jewish,’ and to them alone- irrespective of where
>>they live. Israel doesn’t officially ‘belong’ to its non-Jewish citizens,
>>whose status is considered even officially as inferior. Anyone, from
>>anywhere, officially regarded as “Jewish” is entitled at once to become an
>>Israeli citizen and benefit from the approximately 70% of the West Bank
>>land or 92% of Israel proper, officially designated only for the benefit of
>>Jews!
>>
>>92% of all land in Israel is the property of the state and is administered
>>by the Israel Land Authority according to regulations issued by the Jewish
>>National Fund, an affiliate of the World Zionist Organization. These
>>regulations deny the right to reside, open a business, and often work to
>>anyone who is not Jewish.
>>
>>In the Land of Israel [borders undefined]-
>>
>>* the Halakhah forbids Jews to sell immovable property (fields and houses)
>> to Gentiles
>>* leasing a house to a Gentile is permitted under two conditions:
>>
>>1) the house is for storage or some such purpose but not for habitation
>>2) that 3 or more adjoining houses shall not be so leased
>>
>>* Thus a conference of Israeli rabbis in 1979 declared that according to
>> the Halakhah the ‘autonomy’ that Begin was ready to offer the
>>Palestinians
>> was too liberal.
>>* Maimonides said, “When Jews are more powerful than the Gentiles we are
>> forbidden to let an idolater among us . . .” Thus, if Jews have the
>>power,
>> it is their religious duty to expel the Palestinians.
>>
>>Israeli law strictly forbids Jews settled on ‘National Land’ to sub-let
>>even a part of their land to Arabs, even for a short time. Those who do so
>>are punished, usually by heavy fines.
>>
>>In the mid-60s the Rabbinical Court of Jerusalem (whose members are rabbis
>>nominated by the State of Israel) ruled that a Jew should not violate the
>>Sabbath in order to save the life of a Gentile. They added that if the
>>consequence of such an act puts Jews in danger, the Sabbath may be
>>violated, for their sake. The decision was based on Talmudic law.
>>
>>In 1985 a Constitutional Law was passed by a very large majority of the
>>Knesset that no party whose program openly opposes the principal of ‘a
>>Jewish state,’ or proposes to change it by democratic means, is allowed to
>>participate in the elections to the Knesset.
>>
>>In a booklet published by the Central Region Command of the Israeli Army,
>>whose area includes the West Bank, the Command’s Chief Chaplain writes:
>>
>>When our forces come across civilians during a war or in hot pursuit or in
>>a raid, so long as there is no certainty that these civilians are incapable
>>of harming our forces, then according to the Halakhah they may and even
>>should be killed . . . In war, when our forces storm the enemy, they are
>>allowed and even enjoined by the Halakhah to kill even good civilians, that
>>is, civilians who are ostensibly good.
>>—————————————————————————
>>
>>Israeli Practice
>>—————————————————————————
>>
>>The kibbutz is a racist institution from which non-Jewish citizens of
>>Israel are rigorously excluded.
>>
>>Jewish farmers exploiting Arab labor, especially child labor, note that
>>servitude is the ‘natural’ lot of Gentiles.
>>
>>Gush Emunim leaders have quoted religious precepts which enjoin Jews to
>>oppose Gentiles, as a justification of the attempted assassination of
>>Palestinian mayors and as divine authority for their own plans to expel all
>>Arabs from Palestine.
>>
>>”In principle, virtually all zionists- and in particular ‘left zionists-
>>share the deep anti-Gentile attitudes which Orthodox Judaism keenly
>>promotes.” Israel Shahak, p. 97.
>>
>>Apartheid Bonds
>>
>>To South Africa:
>>
>>Israel’s Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin to South Africa’s Prime Minister John
>>Vorster (father of South Africa’s rabid apartheid policies) at an Israeli
>>banquet for Vorster in April 1976: “We here follow with sympathy your own
>>historic efforts to achieve detente on your continent, to build bridges for
>>a secure and better future, to create coexistence that will guarantee a
>>prosperous atmosphere of cooperation for all the African peoples without
>>interference and threat.”
>>
>>Rafael Eitan, former Israeli chief of staff and Knesset member, said, “I
>>don’t understand the comparison between us and South Africa. What we have
>>in common is that we both take measures to ensure that we are not
>>overpowered. Those who say that Blacks in South Africa are persecuted are
>>lying. The Blacks there want to overpower the white minority, just like the
>>Arabs here want to overpower us. And we, just like the South African
>>minority, must act to make sure we are not overpowered. I went to see a
>>diamond mine there and saw what superb conditions Black workers are
>>enjoying. So what if there is a seperate lift for Blacks and Whites? That’s
>>the way they want it…”
>>
>>Assembly of Heads of State and Government of the Organization of African
>>Unity in 1975 considered, “…that the racist regime in occupied Palestine
>>and the racist regimes in Zimbabwe and South Africa have a common
>>imperialist origin, forming a whole and having the same racist structure
>>and being organically linked in their policy aimed at repression of the
>>dignity and integrity of the human being.”
>>
>>Archbishop Desmond M. Tutu of Cape Town (speaking in Jerusalem):
>>”I cannot myself understand people who have suffered as the Jews have
>>suffered inflicting the suffering of the kind I have seen on the
>>Palestinians.”
>>”In the methods of resistance used by the Palestinians, and the ways the
>>Israeli Government deals with the resistance, we experience an
>>extraordinary sense of being at home.”
>>
>>Lynda Brayer, human rights lawyer, director of the Society of St. Yves, a
>>legal resource center for human rights in Jerusalem, and advocate for the
>>Jahalin Bedouins in their fight against Israeli settlement policy, said:
>>”Having grown up in South Africa, I find the resemblance to apartheid both
>>obvious and irrefutable. Rabin himself described the peace process as
>>hafrada, whose literal menaning is ‘seperation,’ or apartheid in Afrikaans.
>>The purposes of hafrada are identical with those of apartheid: the
>>prevention of any meaningful political and economic freedom. This would be
>>achieved through the fragmentation of the coherence and cohesion of
>>Palestine and Palestinian society: expropriation of Palestinian land and
>>the paralysis of economic development. Palestinian workers would be
>>coopted to promote the Israeli economy which aspires to new markets in
>>the Arabworld.”
>>
>>”The once and future piece-Rabin’s legacy” in Middle East International no.
>>515 (15 Dec. 1995), p.21.
>>
>>To Nazi Germany
>>
>>Rabbi Joachim Prinz, later president of the American Jewish Congress: “The
>>German Government announced very solomnly that there was no country in the
>>world which tried to solve the Jewish problem as seriously as did Germany.
>>Solution to the Jewish problem? It was our Zionist dream! We never denied
>>the existance of the Jewish question! Dissimilation? It was our own
>>appeal!”
>>
>>Reinhardt (The Hangman) Heydrich, the chief of the SS Security Service and
>>later the infamous Protector of Bohemia-moravia in an article in 1935: “We
>>must seperate Jewery into two categories, the Zionists and those who favor
>>being assimilated. the Zionists adhere to a strict racial position and by
>>emigrating to Palestine they are helping to build their own Jewish state.
>>Our good wishes together with our official good will go with them.”
>>
>>Neturei Karta, organization of anti-Zionist devoutly religious Ashkenazi
>>Jews, in an advertisement in The New York Times of 11 Nov. 1975: “The
>>collaboration of Zionism with Nazism is an indelible stain. The
>>perpetration of war crimes against the Palestinian people is an everlasting
>>blot. But one can share with truely religious Jews the conviction that “The
>>fraud of Zionism will pass and the Jewish people will live.”
>>
>>
>>Israel Shahak, professor of chemistry at Hebrew University in Jerusalem,
>>concentration camp survivor, chairman of Israeli League for Civil and Human
>>Rights: “I would say the only human response to the Holocaust is to try not
>>to be like Nazis, in word or deed. What brought the Holocaust was the
>>racist attitude toward Jews, the division of German society into Jews and
>>non-Jews on grounds of race. This is exactly the same thing that is
>>happening in Israel.”
>>
>>Israel Shahak: “You can define Israeli society as a society in which there
>>are no Israelis, but only Jews and non-Jews. You have seperate tables for
>>dying Jewish infants and dying non-Jewish infants and so on. This is
>>Nazification of Jewish society and this can well bring the calamity it
>>brought in Europe, only this time a calamity to Arabs. If one can learn
>>anything from the Nazi experience, it is that one should be against Nazism,
>>whether German, Jewish or Arab.”
>>
>>Apartheid Hate
>>
>>Maimonidies in his Guide to the Perplexed discusses how various sections of
>>humanity can attain the supreme religious value, the true worship of God.
>>Among those who are incapable of even approaching this are: “The Turks and
>>the nomads of the North, and the Blacks and the nomads in the South, and
>>those who resemble them in our climates. And their nature is like the
>>nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the
>>level of human beings, and their level among existing things is below that
>>of a man and above that of a monkey, because they have the resemblence
>>of a man more than a monkey does.”
>>
>>Chaim Weitzman in a letter to Lord Balfour dated 30 May 1918: “The Arabs,
>>who are superficially clever and quick-witted, worship one thing and one
>>thing only, power and success … The fairer the English regime tries to
>>be, the more arrogant the Arab becomes.”
>>
>>Rafael Eitan: “When we settle the land, all the Arabs will be able to do
>>about it will be to scurry around like drugged roaches in a bottle.”
>>
>>Elizer Livneh, member of the Israeli Labour Party and a leader of the
>>Greater Israeli Movement: “… that the Palestinians do not really exist,
>>they are a cosmopolitan rubbish and that the aim of these people is to
>>cause the collapse of modern society for they are an instrument of world
>>barbarism.”
>>
>>Israel Shahak: “We were completely brain-washed in school, first of all to
>>hate all Arabs. Secondly, we were brain-washed to regard one important fact
>>about the world; that all non-Jews hate Jews. We were brain-washed to
>>believe that Mongolians, who have never even seen a Jew, will the moment
>>they see one become anti-Semites. And we were also brain-washed to believe
>>that this hate is completely different from normal hate which prevails in
>>many places among nationalists and especially toward minorities.”
>>
>>Israel Shahak: “… the only way to change Israeli opinion is through the
>>Diaspora. It’s useless for a non-Jew to waste breath criticizing Israel. A
>>’goy’ doesn’t count here. But if American Jews were to criticize our
>>attitude towards the Arabs we would take notice because we need their
>>money.”
>>
>>Abraham Sharir, Israeli Cabinet Minister: “It may not be nice to say so,
>>but the Arabs are born liars.”
>>
>>Moshe Menuhin (father of the violinist Yehudi Menuhin) wrote that he “could
>>not stomach the daily preaching of ‘our nation, our country, our
>>birthplace’ by our hypernationalistic, goyim-hating, Zionist Hebrew
>>teachers. Not one of the students at the Gymnesia Herzlin was born in
>>Palestine. We all came to Palestine from Russia, Poland, Romania, Galicia,
>>et cetera. The hatred and contempt for goyim- Arabs in our case- was
>>irrational and inhuman.”
>>
>>Albert Einstein and others in a letter to The New York Times of 4 Dec. 1948
>>on a visit to the US by Menachem Begin (terrorist and later Israeli Prime
>>Minister): “Within the Jewish community they (Begin’s Freedom Party) have
>>preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial
>>superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break
>>strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade
>>unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian
>>Fascist model.
>>
>>During the years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZI, and Stern
>>(former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir’s terrorists) groups
>>inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers
>>were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting
>>their children join them.
>>
>>It is … tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to
>>campaign against Begin’s efforts, or even expose to its own constituents
>>the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.”
>>
>>Apartheid Agression
>>
>>Theodore Herzl in his diary entry for 12 June 1895: “When we occupy the
>>land, we shall bring immediate benefits to the state that receives us. We
>>must expropriate gently the private property of the estates assigned to us.
>>We must try to spirit the penniless population across the border by
>>procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any
>>employment in our own country.”
>>
>>David Ben-Gurion, Israeli Prime Minister, in a speech to the Knesset on the
>>third day of the Suez War in 1956 stated that the real reason for the war
>>was the restoration of the Kingdom of David and Solomon to its Biblical
>>borders. At this point in his speech virtually every Knesset member
>>spontaneously rose and sang the Israeli national anthem.
>>
>>Menahem Begin, Israeli Prime Minister in an op-ed piece in The New York
>>Times: “In June 1967, we again had a choice. the Egyptian Army
>>concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really
>>about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack
>>him.”
>>
>>Yitzhak Rabin, then head of the army: “I do not believe that Nasser wanted
>>war. The two divisions which he sent into the Sinai on May 14 would not
>>have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it, and we
>>knew it.”
>>
>>General Mattitahu Peled of the IDF General Staff: “All those stories about
>>the huge danger we were facing because of our small territorial size, an
>>argument expounded once the war was over, had never been considered in our
>>calculations prior to the unleashing of hostilities.”
>>
>>General Mordichai Hod, Commanding General, Israeli Air-Force: “Sixteen
>>years’ planning had gone into those initial eighty minutes. We lived with
>>the plan, we slept on the plan, we ate the plan. Constantly we perfected
>>it.”
>>
>>Yigal Allon, Minister of Labor and member of Eshkol’s Military Advisory
>>Committee on the origin of the Six-Day War: “Begin and I want Jerusalem.”
>>
>>Golda Meir, former Israeli Prime Minister: “It is not as though there was a
>>Palestinian people living in Palestine and calling themselves Palestinians
>>and we came and threw them out–they did not exist.”
>>
>>Menahem Begin (former Israeli Prime Minister): “When you accept the concept
>>of Palestine, you demolish your right to live here. If this is Palestine,
>>and not Eretz Israel, then you are conquerors and not tillers of the land,
>>and this land then belongs to people who lived here before you.”
>>
>>Moshe Dayan told Zionist youth at a meeting in the Golan Heights in July
>>1968: “Our fathers had reached the frontiers recognized in the partition
>>plan; the Six-Day War generation has managed to reach Suez, Jordan, and the
>>Golan Heights. This is not the end. After the present cease-fire lines,
>>there will be new ones. They will extend beyond Jordan … to Lebanon and
>>… to central Syria as well.”
>>
>>Moshe Dayan: “We came to this country which was already populated by Arabs,
>>and we are establishing a Hebrew, that is a Jewish, state here … Jewish
>>villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the
>>names of the Arab villages, and I do not blame you, because these geography
>>books no longer exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahala arose
>>in the place of Mahalul, Gevat in the place of Jibita, Sarid in the place
>>of Haneifs, and Kefar Yehoshua in the place of Tel Shaman. There is not one
>>place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.”
>>
>>Apartheid Oppression
>>
>>Arthur Hays Sulzberger, publisher of The New York Times in 1946: “I dislike
>>the coercive methods of the Zionists who, in this country, have not
>>hesitated to use economic means to silence persons who have different
>>views. I object to the attempts at character assassination of those who do
>>not agree with them.”
>>
>>Meir Indor, spokesman for the Gush Emunim settlement of Kiryat Arba: “The
>>Arabs must know that there is a master here, the Jewish people. It rules
>>over Eretz Israel. The Arabs are temporary dwellers who happen to live in
>>the country. There are commandments in the Bible concerning such temporary
>>dwellers and we should act accordingly.”
>>
>>Yeshayahu Leibovitz, professor at Hebrew University and editor of
>>Encyl-opedia Hebraica on the massacres at Sabra & Shatila: “The massacre
>>was done by us. The Phalangists are our mercenaries. Exactly as the
>>Ukrainians and the Croatians and the Slovakians were the mercenaries of
>>Hitler, who organized them as soldiers to do the work for him. Even so we
>>organized the assassins in Lebanon in order to murder the Palestinians.”
>>
>>A.B. Yehoshua, Israeli novelist, on the massacre at Sabra & Shatila: “What
>>happened at the refugee camps in Beirut is the logical consequence of all
>>that took place in the past months. A logical sequence, and almost an
>>unavoidable one. What can one say? Even if I could believe that IDF
>>soldiers who stood at a distance of 100 meters from the camps did not know
>>what happened, then this would be the same lack of knowledge of the Germans
>>who stood outside Buchenwald and Treblinka and did not know what was
>>happening! We too did not want to know.”
>>
>>Mordechai Nisan: “… it is nowhere provided that non-Jews will enjoy full
>>equal rights as a national community. After all, the Land is the eternal
>>possession of the Jewish people alone …”
>>
>>Yehudi Menuin, to the Israeli Knesset in 1991 when accepting the
>>prestigious Wolf Award: “This wasteful governing by fear, by contempt for
>>the basic dignities of life, this steady asphyxiation of a dependent people
>>should be the very last means to be adopted by those who know too well the
>>awful significance, the unforgettable suffering of such an existence.”
>>
>>Letter by Israeli soldiers reporting instructions regarding curfew
>>violations given them by a senior officer, read in the Knesset in 1980:
>>”Anybody you catch outside his home — first you beat him with a truncheon
>>all over the body, except for his head. Don’t have pity on anyone. Don’t
>>explain anything. Beat first, then, after you have finished, explain why
>>… If you catch a small child, get out the whole family, line them up and
>>beat the father before all his children. Don’t consider the beating a
>>right; it is your duty — they do not understand any other way.”
>>
>>Apartheid Racism & Segregation
>>
>>Golda Meir: “Each Israeli soldier has a deep personal commitment to
>>defending this country … The Palestinian Arab shows no such emotional
>>involvement. Why should he? He is equally at ease whether in Jordan,
>>Lebanon or a variety of places. They are as much his country as this is.
>>And as little.”
>>
>>Chaim Herzog, President of Israel and a Labour Party leader: “We are
>>certainly not willing to make partners of the Palestinians in any way in a
>>land that was holy to our people for thousands of years. There can be no
>>partner with the Jews of this land.”
>>
>>Mordechai Nisan of the Truman Research Center of the Hebrew University:
>>”At the dawn of Jewish history, contact with the land of Israel established
>>the
>>principle that the presence of non-Jews in the country is morally and
>>politically irrelevant to the national right of the Jews to settle and
>>posses the land …”
>>
>>Joseph Weitz, former head of the Jewish Agency’s Colonization Department:
>>”It should be clear that there is no room for both peoples to live in this
>>country. … If the Arabs leave, it is large and open country; if they
>>stay, it is small and poor. Up to this point, Zionists have been content to
>>’buy land,’ but this is no way to establish a country for the Jews. A
>>nation is created in one move … and in that case, there is no alternative
>>to moving the Arabs to the neighboring countries, moving them all, except
>>perhaps those living in Bethlehem, Nazareth, and the Old City of Jerusalem.
>>Not one village, not one tribe must remain. They must be moved to Iraq,
>>Syria, or even Transjordan.”
>>
>>Apartheid Documents
>>
>>In Israel everyone must carry an ID card at all times. These ID cards list
>>a person’s ‘nationality’ as ‘Jewish,’ ‘Arab,’ ‘Druze,’ etc. An ‘Israeli’
>>nationality is not recognized by the Ministry of the Interior.
>>
>>I The creation of the Jewish Agency was provided for in the Mandate in
>>order to obtain Zionist cooperation with the British Government in matters
>>pertaining to the Jewish National Home. Article 3 (d) & (e) of its
>>Constitution (signed in Zurich 14 Aug. 1929) states:
>>
>>”(d) Land is to be acquired as Jewish property and subject to the
>>provisions of Article 10 of this agreement, the title to the lands acquired
>>is to be taken in the name of the Jewish National Fund, to the end that the
>>same shall be held as the inalienable property of the Jewish people.”
>>
>>”(e) The Agency shall promote agricultural colonization based on Jewish
>>labour, and in all works or undertakings carried out by the Agency, it
>>shall be deemed to be a matter of principle that Jewish labour shall be
>>employed…”
>>
>>II Article 23 of a lease of the Jewish National Fund in regard to granting
>>of its holdings states:
>>
>>”… The lessee undertakes to execute all works connected with the
>>cultivation of the holding only with Jewish labour. Failure to comply with
>>this duty by the employment of non-Jewish labour shall render the lessee
>>liable to the payment of a compensation of ten Palestinian pounds for each
>>default. The fact of employment of non-Jewish labour shall constitute
>>adequate proof as to the damages and the amount thereof, and the right of
>>the Fund to be paid the compensation referred to, and it shall not be
>>necessary to serve on the lessee any notorial or other notice. Where the
>>lessee has contravened the provisions of this Article three times the Fund
>>may apply the right of restitution of the holding, without paying any
>>compensation whatever …”
>>
>>III In the agreement for the payment of advances made by the Palestine
>>Foundation Fund to settlers in the Maritime Plain this provision appears:
>>
>>”Article 7- The settler hereby undertakes that he will during the
>>continuance of any said advances, reside upon the said agricultural holding
>>and do all his farm work by himself or with the aid of his family, and
>>that, if and whenever he may be obliged to hire help, he will hire Jewish
>>workmen only.”
>>
>>IV A similar agreement in another colony reads:
>>
>>”Article 11- The settler undertakes to work the said holding personally, or
>>with the aid of his family, and not hire any outside labour except Jewish
>>laborers.”
>>
>>V Tsomet party document:
>>
>>”All the Arabs within the borders of the land of Israel are enemies. They
>>all have the same aspiration, and they all express it in a similar way: by
>>violence.”
>>
>>Apartheid Textbooks
>>
>>”I believe that being a Jew means being a fighter, an eternal swimmer
>>against the dark gentile criminal current. A Jewish hero is a martyr, a
>>saint even when he kills… I am happy to belong to the unhappiest of all
>>nations of the world whose teaching represents all what is the most noble
>>and beautiful that was ever created.” From an Israeli geography textbook
>>for the 6th grade.
>>
>>”The four Jews went to visit a nearby Arab village. They saw there only
>>lean people with yellow faces. Flies were on their faces and they did not
>>even make an effort to chase them away because of their laziness. Many of
>>the villagers were blind. They went hand in hand and looked like searching
>>for their way in the darkness. The children went barefoot. They had sick
>>eyes and the women had an inflated womb. Thus they looked before the Jews
>>brought them progress.” From the Israeli textbook Journey in the First
>>Zionist Colonies published by the Section for Study Programs of the
>>Education Ministry. Intended for lessons on the homeland for the 4th grade.
>>
>>Apartheid in Jerusalem
>>
>>Then mayor of Jerusalem Teddy Kollek said in an interview with Ma’ariv
>>right after the Temple Mount massacre in Oct. 1990: “Yes, we installed a
>>sewerage system for them and improved the water supply. Do you know why?
>>Do you think it was for their good, for their welfare? Forget it! There
>>were
>>some cases of cholera there, and the Jews were afraid that they would catch
>>it, so we installed sewerage and a water system against cholera …”
>>
>>A document of the Jerusalem municipality of 1978: “Every area of the city
>>that is not settled by Jews is in danger of being detached from Israel and
>>transferred to Arab control. Therefore, the administrative principle
>>regarding the area of the city’s municipal jurisdiction must be translated
>>into practice by building in all parts of that area, and, to begin with, in
>>its remotest sections.”
>>
>>From a planning document of 1986: “The development of the Arab sector
>>has a ‘picture window’ effect, and it was decided, therefore, that what
>>will be
>>seen by a large number of people (residents, tourists, etc) is important
>>and prominent and receives a grade 5, projects that have no impact are
>>graded 1.”
>>
>>B’Tselem (Israeli Human Rights Organization) May 1995 report on Jerusalem
>>notes: “Since the annexation of East Jerusalem in 1967, the Israeli
>>government has adopted a policy of systematic and deliberate discrimination
>>against the Palestinian population in all matters relating to expropriation
>>of land, planning, and building.”
>>
>>Since the Annexation of East Jerusalem
>>
>> * Palestinians constitute 28% of the city’s population
>> * Most of the lands expropriated since 1967 were privately owned by
>> Arabs
>> * Of the 70,000 dunums (4 dunums equal one acre) of land annexed to
>> Jerusalem following the Six-Day War, 23,500 dunums were expropriated
>> under the Land Ordinance (most privately-owned by Arabs) and used
>> exclusively for the welfare of the Jewish population. By Feb. 1995,
>> about 38,500 residential units had been built for 160,000 Jews on the
>> expropriated land. Not one housing unit was built for the Palestinian
>> population.
>> * In February 1995 the number of residential units in the Jewish
>> neighborhoods in east Jerusalem was about twice that of those in
>> Palestinian neighborhoods (38,500 units to 20,900 units). The
>> settlement of Jews in East Jerusalem is illegal under international
>> law [Article 47 of the Fourth Geneva Convention].
>> * In 1973 the Gafni Commission recommended to the government that within
>> a decade 10,000 new housing units be built for the Palestinian
>> population. In the 22 years since then the Palestinian population has
>> increased from 88,000 to over 160,000. To date no more than 5700
>> apartments have been built.
>> * Building has been barred on most of the area that remains in Arab
>> hands in East Jerusalem. The purpose of “Town Planning Schemes” is to
>> prevent the Palestinians from making use of the little land that is
>> available to them.
>> * 64,870 apartments, constituting 88% of all housing units were built
>> for the Jewish population- about half by public construction.
>> * Some 8,890 apartments (some 12%) built for Palestinians were mostly
>> built privately.
>> * At the end of 1993, the average housing density of the Jewish
>> population was 1.1 persons per room; and 2.2 persons per room among
>> the Palestinians. This is twice as large as the gap in 1967.
>> * In 1972 for each Jewish family living in density of 3 persons per room
>> there were 4 Palestinian families under similar conditions. By 1993
>> this density had reached 13.5 to 1!
>> * Almost one-third of Jerusalem’s Palestinians (32.3%) lived in
>> conditions of housing density of more than 3 persons per room, as
>> opposed to only 2.4% among Jews.
>> * According to estimates, the housing shortage among the Palestinian
>> pop-ulation has reached more than 20,000 units.
>> * Of the 9070 residential units whose construction ended from 1990 and
>> the end of 1993, inclusive, only 463 (5.1%) were built in Palestinian
>> neighborhoods.
>> * In 1993 alone, among the 2,720 residential units completed, only 103
>> (3.8%) of all housing units built were built in Palestinian
>> neighborhoods.
>> * Expropriations were also intended to deprive the Palestinian
>> population of the possibility of building on those lands, and to hold
>> them in reserve for future Jewish neighborhoods.
>> * These problems are the cumulative result of the deliberate and
>> systematic discrimination that has characterized Israeli government
>> policy since 1967.
>>—————————————————————————
>>Source: Harvard College library.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:15:24 +1000, observor
wrote:

>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>
>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>100,000 troops.”
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>and who is an Aryan.”
>
>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>(kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.

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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:40:33 GMT, sbjarnason the jew maggot, trying to
stir up more discussion wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 1998 20:00:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:53:14 GMT, sbjarnason a defender of JEW
>criminals wrote:
>
>On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————
>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>
>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>
>>>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York representatives of
>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>community.
>>>
>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>lords.
>>>
>>> “Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary Carter,
>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>charges.
>>>
>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>reporting requirements.
>>>
>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>attorney prosecuting the case.
>>>
>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>traffickers.
>>>
>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>between August 1995 and May 1996.
>>>
>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 — the amount
>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement —
>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>at the same location.
>>>
>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>
>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in Hebrew. The
>>>only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>Building.”
>>>
>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>federal complaint.
>>>
>>> The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service —
>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>officials said.
>>>
>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals —
>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>illicit drug profits.
>>>
>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday’s
>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them —
>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to have brought in large sums
>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder.
>>>
>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>>>
>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made out
>>>to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,” the
>>>federal complaint said.
>>>
>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>among the intermediaries.
>>>
>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>================================================================================
>>> The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————–
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>sven88

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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:33:46 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stir up
discussion about criminal JEWS wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:49:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>——————————————————————————
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
>dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
>and a yeshiva in Brooklyn.
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>togethera collection of strange bedfellows — five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community.
>
>At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords.
>
>”Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges.
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements.
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case.
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
>complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
>$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
>accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
>commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers.
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996.
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>– the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement — through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location.
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem.
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building.”
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint.
>
>The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>– began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said.
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals — transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits.
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday’s complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them — Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder.
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made
>out to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,”
>the federal complaint said.
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries.
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>=================================================================
>The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
> News Bureau and Archives Online
>
>
>
>
>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, [email protected]
>(polis-etica) wrote:
>
>>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>>transfer their drug money “which go to the Jewish religious
>>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>>exposed following an FBI ‘sting’ operation, in the framework of which
>>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>>Ya’akov Evenheim, known as ‘Zero’ Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S..

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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
reconsidered by thinking readers.

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>
>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.

> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.

> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:

>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”

>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”

>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>Moisei Uritsky.

>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”

>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”

>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress:

>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon.

>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>were Jews.

>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it.”

>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>4, 1919)

>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:

>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.

>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . ”

>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.

>Regards,
>Roger Hughes

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On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:06:52 GMT, [email protected] (tom moran) wrote:

>
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>
>>> —————————————————————————
>>>
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>>
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>>
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>
>
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>
> Actually Riggs ‘study’ was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>Texas newspapers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here
>is a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>time. The reason it found it’s way into so many papers is because the
>subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome military heroes.
>Rigg’s study is more the result of fantasy than academic research. It
>was said he might write a book or something, but then don’t count on
>it. It ain’t happened yet. It would expose his stuff to verification
>and he (they) are relying on people holding the notions just from what
>was in the newspapers.
>
> Intitially posted under “Super Jews in Hitler’s Army”.
>
> “The Jews in Hitler’s Military”
>
> L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>
>”A young American is
>documenting the stories
>of Hundreds of German
>veterans of Jewish descent.
>Many lost family to the
>Holocaust while serving the
>Nazi regime.”
>
>LONDON–“Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>man’s land of Holocaust history.
> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent … who
>served …during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>Jews.
> ‘Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the military but at the same time
>exterminated their families.’
> On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>year old Texan … interviewed more than 300 of these veterans …
>Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>Germany 4 times …
> Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>of Hilter’s soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>men commanding up to 100,000, …”
>
>[ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>story and why it would find it’s way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>supremacy publication. ]
>
>”In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>Knight’s Cross, Germany’s highest honor, he said.”
>
> “This fall, Rigg, Yale ’96, arrived at England Cambridge
>University … lugging his clothes … documentation … Jonathan
>Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg’s files and hurried to find
>a safe place for them.
>
>[[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
>
> Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>were killed for being Jewish–and others who died fighting in battle
>for Nazi Germany.”
>
>[ I would say if Rigg’s was confronted with a demand to stand
>accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>pat.
>
>One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>aspect of Judaism. ]
>
>———————————————————————-
> The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>connection and the reason it found it’s way into the L.A.Times – to
>hype Jewish supremacy.
>———————————————————————-
>
>
> “Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>themselves as half Jewish, half German.”
>
>[ Here we have the term “half Jewish” being designated “Nazi
>terminology” when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, ‘half
>Black’, ‘half Irish’, etc.
>
>The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>even eighth Jewish. ]
>
> “One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>high ranking officers ‘of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew’. Two
>generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>colonels.”
>
>[ It doesn’t say how many were of “Jewish race” or how many were those
>who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>
> “‘I don’t think it ever occurred to go to a general’s personal
>file to see if he was Jewish’, said Steinberg”.
>
>[ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>
>
> “… Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>commanders and fighters”.
>
>[ So under the circumstances, there just wasn’t enough to draw from
>the measly German genetic stock for “experienced” “commanders” and
>”fighters”. ]
>
> “He (Rigg’s) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>approved by Hitler–naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>One German civilian of Jewish heritage …”
>
>[ “One ,,,” “German civilian” of “Jewish heritage”? ]
>
> ….
>
> “In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent …”
>
>[ More “officers” of Jewish “decent”. Another thing that is evident
>in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>the list are “officers”. ]
>
> ….
>
> “One Knight’s Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>England …”
>
>[ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>”Jewish father”. No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father”.]
>
> “Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>derring-do rescue … Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch … whose father was Jewish.”
>
>[ The significance here of course is the “… derring-do … Jewish
>father” connection.]
>
> ….
>
> “About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>about 12,000 of them were killed.”
>
> [ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg’s
>project. Here we have “100,000” Jews said to have served in the German
>army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>
> (The WWI) “…Veterans thought their service would protect them
>against the Nazi crackdown … When the transports came … Some even
>went to the gas chamber with their medals on.”
>
>[ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with “medals”. How
>Rigg’s came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>he says “some”. If he had said ‘one’ this is something we could accept
>as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the “some”, well too
>wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>the source for Rigg’s blurt.
>
>Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>
>How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]]
>
> “Rigg’s quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>Germany as Jews.”
>
>[ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>Who knows. ]
>
> “Then one night in 1992, he went to see ‘Europa, Europa’, a film
>about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>War II. After the movie, Rigg’s struck a conversation with an elderly
>German Jew… and he listened until morning”
>
>[ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>involved. The old man stayed up all night? ]
>
> So far it seems Rigg’s has not written a book on the subject or
>released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>with this latest bravado.
>
> On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>compromised when trying to fit all the talk about “Jewish”, “field
>marshalls”, “generals” and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>Goldhagen’s book, ‘Ordinary Germans, Hitler’s Willing Executioners”
>which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>exterminations of millions of Jews.
>
> It’s funny how Holocaust accounts stampede all over themselves
>and all over each other.
>
> In another twist, this article and thus Rigg’s, seem to strive to
>show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>hard at portraying as evil.
>
> Well, when it comes to selling Jewish supremacy, anything goes.
>
> When looking at the picture of Rigg’s, I can see blind ambition,
>the boy next door, and I think of that long talk he had into the wee
>hours of the morning with the German Jew.
>
> If ever Rigg’s does publish a paper with documentation to support
>his claims of the awesome heroics it will be subject to investigation.
>And, if he never does publish a paper for public scrutiny we can
>wonder about that. ]]
sven88

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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:16:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>And don’t forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>gangster!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin’s participation in war crimes
>>>
>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>
>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>not been used yet.
>>>
>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook “to
>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts.” A Signatory may
>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>
>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world’s
>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States’ legal obligations to do so.
>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>
>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>
>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>1977, as ‘grave breaches’, the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>prosecute.
>>>
>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>
>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>
>>>”1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately.” The order was signed “Yitzhak
>>>R[abin].”
>>>
>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>”The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949″ by Israeli
>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo’s book “The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland”, Quartet Books,
>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>
>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin’s implication in
>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin’s orders. As a prelude to
>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile’. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>planned ‘transfer’ policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>master plan of “ethnical cleansing”.
>>>
>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>
>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as ‘war crimes’.
>>>
>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>> of their Inhabitants
>>>
>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>
>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>
>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>prohibit “at any time and in any place whatsoever….collective
>>>punishments”. It seems that the destruction of these villages – every
>>>single house in them – constitutes ‘collective punishment’ within the
>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>
>>> 3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>> Youngsters
>>>
>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by “force, might,
>>>beatings”. More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>
>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>these practices (i.e. Ha’aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin’s role in these
>>>policies.
>>>
>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) “inhuman treatment….wilfully
>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health”. Protocol I
>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>the acts which remain “prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:”: “Violence to
>>>the….physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular….(iii)
>>>corporal punishment.”
>>>
>>> 4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>> Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>
>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin’s war:
>>>”Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>southern Lebanon. (…) Rabin’s War – Operation Accountability – has killed
>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>Beirut. (…) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(…) About
>>>80 villages have been hit.”. According to the London-based Middle East
>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the “majority of casualties were
>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>around 100,000.”
>>>
>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was “expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon ‘uninhabitable’ and to create a
>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel’s will (…)”
>>>
>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), “some 400,000
>>>people – mainly Shi’ite Muslims – fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves”.
>>>
>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>specifies as a ‘grave breach’ (war crime) “making the civilian population
>>>or individual civilians the object of attack” as well as “launching an
>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects”. Further details are provided
>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a ‘grave breach’ of international
>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>
>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>
>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>
>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>their country’s sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>
>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>
>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>of hostilities.
>>>
>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>
>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>
>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>
>>>Mr. Rabin’s Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>
>>>As to Mr. Rabin’s personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>and 1967).
>>>
>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>”to break the bones” of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by “force, might, beatings” and
>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>
>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel’s Prime
>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin’s primary responsibility for this act.
>>>
>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>
>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>described as ‘war crimes’ as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>view, only the most outrageous types of ‘war crimes’, as committed in World
>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>Conventions.
>>>
>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>the “deportation … for any … purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>occupied territory” as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>”deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>population….when such acts are done….in connection with any crime
>>>against peace or any war crime”, as Crime against Humanity.
>>>
>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>process of law to determine a defendant’s culpability and punishment). The
>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes ‘corporal punishment’, although not as
>>>a ‘grave breach’. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>
>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the ‘grave
>>>breaches’ (war crimes), if such attacks were committed “wilfully, in
>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>serious injury to body or health”.
>>>
>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>
>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>then, state:
>>>
>>>”The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law”
>>>(Principle III. “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him”.
>>>(Principle IV).
>>>
>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>such reservations.
>>>
>>>Conclusion
>>>
>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>short legal discussion.
>>>
>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived – legally – by
>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today’s world, it
>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>circumstances.
>>>
>>>Human rights’ and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin’s
>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>found.
>>
>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

From [email protected] Sat Oct 10 14:51:35 EDT 1998
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JEWISH JOKES

How was copper wiring invented?
Two Jews fighting over a penny!

How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
They put parking meters on the roof!

Why is money green?
Because Jews pick it before it’s ripe!

What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
Jew Jew Beans… Although I heard he enjoyed them “roasted!”

If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
A fur coat!

Why don’t Jews eat pork?
They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they’re not!

Why aren’t Jews attacked by sharks?
Professional courtesy!

Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
Let one in, and he’ll keep the rest out.

What’s the Jewish version of foreplay?
Half an hour of begging.

How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
She’s the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!

Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!

What’s the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!

Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
Someone dropped a quarter!

Why do Jews have such big noses?
Because air is free.

What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
an
affair?
Who catered it?

What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
He breaks his nose.

What’s a Jewish dilemma?
Free ham.

What’s the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
Nail polish.

What’s the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
An elephant eventually forgets.

A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
way,
when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
rubbed it, a
Jewish genie appeared. “I’ll give you two wishes,” quipped
the genie. “Far out,” said the black man. “First, I want to be white,
uptight,
and out of sight!” Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
story:
You can’t get anything from a Jew without strings
attached!

How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
Marry her!

Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
They want 20% off everything!

What’s the difference between between karate and judo?
Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.

What’s the definition of a queer Jew?
Someone that likes girls more then money.

What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
A WHINE cellar.

Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.

What’s the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
A vulture waits until you’re dead to eat your heart out!

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On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, “WaRR”
wrote:

>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>oil of no lay!!
>
>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels aremade of.
>
>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle’s creed was
>what fought rocky balboa.
>
>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>a toilet doesn’t follow you around for 9 months after you use it.
>
>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>it’s called well i’ll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman’s waterbed?
>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.
>
>=how was copper wire invented?
> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.
>
>=why are jewish men circumcised?
> because jewish women won’t buy anything unless it’s 20% off.
>
>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>a girl.
>
>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>a computer that never goes down on you.
>=what’s a jewish british princess’ favorite wine?
> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>she drops her nail file.
>
>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.
>
>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>because they can sell it again and again and again.
>
>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>jello moves when you eat it.
>
>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>she makes him beg for an hour.
>
>=what’s the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>british princess?
>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.
>
>=what’s the difference between jews and canoes?
>canoes tip. ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))
>
>=what’s the difference between jews and pizzas?
>pizzas don’t scream when you put them in the oven.
>
>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>free ham.
>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>a cash register.
>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.
>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>he only took tips.
>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.
>
>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>replied, “i’d draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>the other to me.” the minister replied, “i’d draw a circle in
>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>outside for me.” the rabbi’s answer was, he wouldn’t draw any
>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.
>
>
>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they’re
>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. “ok,” he says,
>”but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>if you don’t, you go straight to hell.” after agreeing, they find
>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>blocks down they pass a pizza store. “i can’t help myself!” says the
>italian… he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. “i can’t
>help myself!” he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>homosexual disappears.
>
>
>yours truly
>
>WaRR
>

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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, [email protected] (Orest
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On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:38:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:40:33 GMT, sbjarnason the jew maggot, trying to
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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:33:46 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stir up
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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:25:41 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Perhaps this previous article should be further discussed??
>
>PM Mahathir at least is not afraid of International Jewry!!
>
>He names the speculators doing their best to destabilise Muslim
>nations and their economies.
>
>Perhaps it is time again for ALL Islamic nations to again tighten the
>petroleum taps, and make the west suffer again??
>
>
>
>On 9 Oct 1997 01:39:04 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth Tan)
>wrote:
>
>>I applaud Mahathir’s bold stand against the money speculators
>>and abusive foreign press. He is the only man in Asia brave
>>enough to show the world how smaller countries are victimised
>>by these people backed by their powerful western countries.
>
>>MIGHT MAKES RIGHT is what these western countries believe in.
>>As long as you have the muscle, anything you do is right.
>>They can suck 40 years for blood and sweat out of Malaysia’s
>>economy within a week. They call it “free-market” just because
>>they make laws that allow them to do it. Anybody with any
>>conscience can see this is totally immoral, except the western
>>powers where their laws make it totally moral and laudable.
>
>>MIGHT MAKES RIGHT is how the western powers make laws to let
>>them do anything they want with a happy conscience. Only now
>>has anyone tried to stand up to them, and that man is Mahathir.
>>Sure the western blood suckers can use their laws and their
>>stolen money to punish Mahathir and Malaysia, but what Mahathir
>>is doing is the only way to bring conscience to the world. Make
>>the rest of the world see how unscruplous these western powers
>>are.
>
>>Give your support to Mahathir, let him know he is not fighting
>>the battle alone. The blood sucking western powers can bleed
>>Malaysia dry, but they cannot kill the spirit of the people.
>>kt
>

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From [email protected] Sat Oct 10 14:56:27 EDT 1998
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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
reconsidered by thinking readers.

>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:

>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.

>Regards,
>Roger Hughes

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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
reconsidered by thinking readers.

>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:

>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.

>Regards,
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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
reconsidered by thinking readers.

>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:

>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.

>Regards,
>Roger Hughes

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>On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:15:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:27:16 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>
>Zionism and the Third Reich
>
>Mark Weber
>
>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>”Tel Aviv,” while a
>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>years later a traveler
>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a “metaphysical
>absurdity.”1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>little-known chapter of history: The
>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler’s Third Reich.
>
>Common Aims
>
>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the “Jewish question”: that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During
>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>that Jews and Germans were
>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>Germany.
>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as “Germans
>of the Jewish faith,” but rather as members of a separate national
>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>”Jewish homeland.” They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>”foreign” country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>
>”The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,”
>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. “Where it
>does not exist, it is brought
>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>without hate or fear.” The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>social or religious. “It is a national
>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue. . . .”
>
>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.”
>
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>detailed memorandum to the
>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>offered Zionist support in “solving” the vexing “Jewish question.” The
>first step, it suggested,
>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one’s own
>tradition. Zionism
>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>and collective responsibility . . .
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>realities.
>
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>cultural domain, we – having been brought up in the German language
>and German culture – can show an
> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>and internal sympathy . . .
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>especially the German people . . .
>
>Boycott propaganda – such as is currently being carried on against
>Germany in many ways – is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>for other peoples.
>
>The Federation’s paper, the Jüdische Rundschau (“Jewish Review”),
>proclaimed the same message: “Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>Jewish problem and
>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested.”5 A young
>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden (“We Jews”), that
>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant “Jewry for the
>Jews.” He explained: “No
>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race.” 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>each group believed was in its own
>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>1940-1941, when the Second
>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>turned to Zionism
>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation’s
>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>were published. “Zionist
>work was in full swing” in Germany during those years, the
>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected “in its
>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists.”7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>support for Zionism by the
>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>Germany’s Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>self-awareness. Jewish
>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations – in
>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>self-awareness – should be
>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>Zionist development there. Based
>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>that appeared in late 1934 under
>the heading “A Nazi Travels to Palestine.” The series expressed great
>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world.
>
>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>”pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>world: the Jewish
>question.” Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: “The time may not be
>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>have been lost to it for
>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>goodwill, go with them.”10
>
>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>within Jewry, the so-called
>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing “strictly
>kosher food on its ships,
>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate.” 12
>
>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to “reeducate”
>Germany’s Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>and the Palestine Question: “Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to
>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them.” 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>”The Gestapo did everything in
>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>regarding preparations for emigration.” 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called “Nuremberg laws” that prohibited marriages and
>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>the Jews an alien minority
>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>new laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>schools, its own theatre, and its
>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>aspects of national life . . .
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>Jewish minority:
>
>Jewry’s process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>relations between the two nations.
>
>Georg Kareski, the head of both the “Revisionist” Zionist State
>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>Berlin Jewish Community,
>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>of 1935: 16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>living together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>separation, provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
> . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>. . . This interruption
>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>Congress, told a New
>York rally in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race.” 17
>
>The Interior Ministry’s Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>L_sener,
>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>November 1935 issue of the
>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>resolved today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>opposition to
>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>Zionists, because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>Germany where
>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>flag, Jews were specifically
>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler’s Germany. 19
>
>Himmler’s security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>Haganah official Feivel
>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>was kept well informed
>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>secret deliveries of German
>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>21
>
>In the aftermath of the November 1938 “Kristallnacht” outburst of
>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>organization to get back on its feet
>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>Jewish communities in the
>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize “their”
>governments and
>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>implacably hostile
>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>Zionist “promised land,” a
>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really “solve” the
>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>in June 1937, would not be in Germany’s interest because it would not
>be able to absorb all
>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>a base for international Communism.24
>
>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between
>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, “it would
>nevertheless be a mistake to
>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>anti-German agitation of international
>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>world.”26 ”
>
>The proclamation
>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine,” warned an
>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, “would
>create for Germany a new
>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>Near East.”
>
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state “would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry.”27 In
>January 1939,
>
>Hitler’s new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>in another circular bulletin that “Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous” because it
>”would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry.” 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>misgivings that his policies might
>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>1939. In response, the SS
>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>illegal, from Germany
>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>1939.
>
>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>”kibbutz” training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>in Hitler’s Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>German Jews to migrate
>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Ha’avara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933
>following talks between German
>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>fertilizer, and so
>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Ha’avara
>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>his deposit in Germany.
>
>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha’avara, which was
>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>Palestine oranges were
>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>Jewish settlers and
>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>the international
>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha’avara
>arrangement, stressed that
>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>negotiate the pact,
>pointed out that “the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>result of the agreement. . . .” 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>in Switzerland,
>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>Zionist “shadow
>government” in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha’avara,
>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany’s Consul
>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>Agreement on several
>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha’avara monopoly sale of German
>goods to Palestine through a
>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34
>
>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>”foreign exchange sacrifices” that resulted from the Ha’avara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: “There is no doubt that
>the Ha’avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>not only the largest source of money
>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>products essential for
>development.” The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>desirable target country as
>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>Minister, it went on, had
>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>each time decided
>to maintain the Ha’avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>through which Jews in
>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>Palestine.38
>
>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha’avara. In
>1937 Poland authorized the
>Halifin (Hebrew for “exchange”) transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>arrangements.
>
>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>implementation of these agreements. 39
>
>Achievements of Ha’avara
>
>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha’avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>ten percent of Germany’s 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>made up about 15 percent
>of Palestine’s 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha’avara emigrants
>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: “Many of these people,
>especially in the late 1930s, were
>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories –
>indeed rough replicas of their very existence.”40
>
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>Ha’avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>pounds or 139.57 million
>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>
>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>major impact on a
>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>out.
>
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>firm. The influx of Ha’avara goods
>and capital, concluded Black, “produced an economic explosion in
>Jewish Palestine” and was “an indispensable factor in the creation of
>the State of Israel.”42
>
>The Ha’avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>state. A January 1939 German
>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>”the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha’avara
>agreement] contributed to
>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine.”43
>
>Former officials of the Ha’avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>”The economic activity
>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>country’s development.
>
>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>even today in the
>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara.”44
>
>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha’avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha’avara
>immigrants “decisively
>contributed” to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>development of Palestine’s Jewish community.45
>
>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism.
>Through this pact, Hitler’s Third
>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>Jewish development in Palestine.
>
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>by the radical underground “Fighters for
>the Freedom of Israel,” better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>nationalist “National Military Organization” (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>the group’s attitude toward Britain, which
>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>
>This remarkable Zionist proposal “for the solution of the Jewish
>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>the war on the side of
>Germany” is worth quoting at some length:46
>
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>requires as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>by evacuation.(“Jew-free Europe”)
>
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>in its historical boundaries.
>
>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>and the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
>
>
>
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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
reconsidered by thinking readers.

>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:

>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.

>Regards,
>Roger Hughes

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On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 04:20:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:37:29 GMT, [email protected] (Ricardo Saiter
>Deorce) wrote:
>
>>smitty ([email protected]) wrote:
>>: [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>: >Canada does not need any more AIDS spreaders!!
>>: >
>>: >To help understand the worldwide reveulsion against the faggots who
>>: >spread AIDS, read the book “AND THE BAND PLAYED ON”.
>>: >
>>: >It documents how AIDS was spread worldwide by the faggot with Air
>>: >Canada, with the connivance of the Canadian government.
>>: >
>>: >In Canada, even the Krever Royal Commission proved that AIDS was being
>>: >deliberately spread by the Red Cross Blood Service, using contaminated
>>: >blood from homosexuals infected with AIDS.
>>
>>
>>: >
>>: >> On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:38:59 -0700, Larry Linton
>>: >> wrote:
>>
>>: >> >Trish van Vierzen wrote:
>>: >> >> I’m wondering about how to help my lesbian partner immigrate to Canada.
>>: >> >> Anyone out there with experience in this particular case?
>>: >> >> Thanks! Trish
>>
>>Same sex partners do have a chance of being together in Canada. It is
>>processed as a Humanitarian and Compassionate grounds.
>
>>It is an easy process and the chances of success are certain IF you can
>>prove that you lived more than one year together in Canada.
>
>>But I just wish there was less prejudice in society and people who think
>>like you. I am a homosexual man from Brazil and applied for refugee
>>status in 1992 in Canada. About May of 1994 I was found not to be a
>>Convention Refuggee in Canada even though the Immigration had in their
>>hands as evidence the fact that, due to homophobia, one gay man is
>>murdered every five days in Brazil.
>
>You do not qualify under international rules set up by the UN, as a
>so-called refugee, period!!!
>
>>I left Canada to the US and was advised to return.
>Certainly not by officials of Immigration Canada!!!
>
>
>>I returned to Canada
>>and applied again, this time not only two cases were a reality in other
>>countries but SIX (two in Australia and four in the US). All cases are of
>>gay men who belong to a particualar social group, homosexuals, from Brazil.
>>Even though they had knowledge of this REALITY, they denied the same fate
>>for me.
>
>At least some officials of Immigration Canada had good sense!!!
>
>>Now, I don’t know why they did not grant me refuggee status twice. I do
>>not know the real reasons.
>
>
>Quite simply, you do not meet the legal requirements to be a legal
>immigrant!!!
>
>
>>The only irony is that I lost my refuggee claim IN CANADA who follow the
>>same rules of the UNITED Nations regarding Refuggees. Some food for
>>thought for all of you, tolerant and not so tolerant Canadians..
>
>Obviously, you do NOT meet Canada Immigration specifications.
>
>
>>: >> >Common law spouses and same sex partners do not fall under the
>>: >> >definition of spouse. They must meet the requirements for admission as
>>: >> >independent immigrants whether they are applying to join a
>>: >> >spouse/partner in Canada or accompanying a principal applicant.
>>: >> >Larry J. Linton
>
>>: >After all, Canada already has too many perverts,and needs no more.

From [email protected] Sun Oct 11 14:14:13 EDT 1998
Article: 127625 of can.general
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Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>
>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>
>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>substantial losses.
>
>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
> Carl E. Kane
> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.

From [email protected] Sun Oct 11 14:15:36 EDT 1998
Article: 121891 of soc.culture.polish
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