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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:31:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
>to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
>even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
>canada, according to prior articles exposing him…
>That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
>of it…
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>On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, [email protected]yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>[email protected] reported::
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>>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!
>
>>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???
>
>>: To tell the truth?? LOFL
sven88

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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You
>>can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>>of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

sven88

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Perhaps Desi’s employer in France needs copies of all the postings
made by Desi – DURING WORKING HOURS???

Would this not constitute proof of theft of employer paid time, as
well as computer resources??

In other words, enough evidence to get the slimeball Desi FIRED,
again??

On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 00:24:01 GMT, “Rev. Don Kool” wrote:

>Desi Coughlan wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> >>>>If Wahrheit weren’t presently getting his arse fried by the Canadian
>> >>>>authorities and media, I’d swear blind that the above bit of vacuous
>> >>>>and masturbatory rhetoric was his …
>>
>> >>>Can you provide details of Wahrheit’s alleged ‘arse frying’ ? What is
>> >>>actually happening and can you prove your statement ?
>>
>> >>The matter is _sub judice_, Billy. Wait and see.
>>
>> [childish distortion of name snipped]
>>
>> >This isn’t going to be like when you turned Don into the FBI is it ? Notice
>> >that action had no effect or do you believe Don is now posting from a jail
>> >cell – with a cable modem no less ?.
>>
>> After Don got canned by his bosses at the DoD, he quietened down a
>> little bit, didn’t he?
>
> “Canned”? Young Desi thinks that because he got fired (twice!),
>everyone did. Sorry to disappoint you, my son, but even though it
>looks like it from France, not everyone is out of work.
>
> Happy to have cleared things up for you,
> Don

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On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 19:26:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 11:50:30 -0600, jacob wrote:
>>The Jewish Salami wrote:
>>> jacob wrote:
>>> >The Jewish Salami wrote:

>>> >> As far as Poland is concerned, they deserved what the Russians
>>> >> gave them for their filty, lousy treatment of the Jews. I do not
>>> >> regret the Katyn massacre or the 69 Days that Marshal Zhukov waited
>>> >> before taking Warsaw. The Poles needed a good weeding for their
>>> >> perfidy. Imagine, the Poles murdered those Jews who survived the
>>> >> death camps and returned to claim their possessions, stolen by the
>>> >> Poles who had denounced them! Poland will pay for this for a long
>>> >> time to come. It is not forgotten …
>
>>> >Is this a insane Jew or a non-Jewish provocateur?
>
>>> >J.B.
>
>>> The Jewish Salami
>
>>What you write is only partly true. This is false to generalize. You can
>>not blame all the Poles for the sin of some of them. If you do it, you
>>do the same wrong thing what the rasists are doing. They blame all the
>>Jews for the crimes, that some of them did.
>
>
>Since it is well documented historical fact that worldwide communism
>was started and maintained by JEWS, why are you now complaining if the
>Polish people, enslaved by the Russian JEWS, now dislike the JEWS???
>
>After all, it was a Polish JEW, Dzerzhinski who established the Secret
>Police for the Russian JEW -led Soviet Union!!!
>
>And it was Russian JEWs, running the Soviet Union, who enslaved Poland
>both during WWII, and of course afterwards under their occupation.
>
>
>>Second: who give you the right to speeck in the name of all Jews. Many
>>of them, that have been communists are today non-communist after they
>>convince oneself, that the communist ideology is a false one.
>>Jacob
>
>Read the list of JEW communists, and weep for the Poles murdered at
>KATYN!!!

Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
“Russian
Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
and lead revolutionary movement.

First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
Karl Marx,
was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.

While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
will
concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
that
passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
Archives:

State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet
government,
anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July
5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government
in
each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type.”

A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports
on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were
384
`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
to
Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
Government.”

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
foreign
affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
and
Moisei Uritsky.

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
little
for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”

The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
“Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”

In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
Propaganda
Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate, 65th Congress:

“We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
side
of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
that
there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
these
men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
in
this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
one
of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
northern
community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
Soviet
regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
Gordon.

I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
on
the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
because
there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
Petrograd,
but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
agitators
were Jews.

I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
that
was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
did not take kindly to it.”

Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
“anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

“The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

“There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
April,
4, 1919)

“Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin,
Rabbi
S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

“In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:

“National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs
characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death
penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
virtually untouched.

It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80
percent
of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
American professor of Russian history. . . ”

Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
were
murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
Communist bosses.

Regards,
Roger Hughes

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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:38:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
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On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:00:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:34:00 -0700, Thomas Lau wrote:
>
>>> > On Fri, 08 May 1998 21:14:26 -0700, Zhongtang Yu
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > >First, the economy in canada is not good. A few weeks ago I read from a
>>> > >Canadian newspaper, and it said Canada was the only country in which the
>>> > >living standard dropped since 1986.
>
>>The living standard in this country has indeed dropped since 1986 but I
>>don’t believe this is only confined to Canada.
>
>>> > >Second, Canada does not have any suiteable job opportunity for new >
>>> >immigrants. A lot of new immigrants do what they would not want to do
>>> > >in their own country, such as driving a cab, working in restaurants.
>
>>In a way one should have expected this before one emigrates from one’s
>>country of origin. But then why would you want to immigrate to this
>>country in the first place? If you have a stable life in your country, and
>>you left it for Canada due to pure economic reasons, you might have made a
>>mistake, unless you reckoned your standard of living would be higher than
>>that in your country of origin no matter what you do in this country.
>
>> > > >And no social wlefare is available for new immigrants. Only after
>>> you > >work for 6 months or more and then you can get a few hundred
>>> CN$/month > >when you lose your job.
>
>>There is social welfare available even if you haven’t got a job. I think
>>you should consult websites of the various provincial govts.
>
>
>Why should immigrants collect welfare?
>They did not contribute to the economy, did they??
>If they are immigrants, they are supposed to have brought wealth –
>usually $500,000 per person with them as entrepreneurs.
>This makes the ineligible for welfare!!!
>
>>> > >Third, I found that there is
>>> much bureaucracy in Canada. Sometimes it > >takes a long time to get a
>>> small thing done. I took me one year to get > >a 1996 tax return right.
>
>>One year to file a tax return? It takes me only two hours 🙂 Maybe yours
>>is exceedingly complex. Why don’t you get an accountant?
>
>Mind you, there are criminally unqualified bookkeepers in Canada, such
>as some of the so-called CGA’s!!!
>
>
>>> > > >You cannot get satisfied services from commercial institutions like
>>> > >banks do not give you a good service. 50% or more of the time when
>>> you > >finishing checkout in a superstor and saying thank you you to the
>>> > >chashier you won’t get a repsonse. What you see a a long face. > >
>
>>Too bad.. but I don’t think the service is the bad compared to a lot of
>>places in the world. Have you ever visited some bigger cities in, say, the
>>UK or the US?
>
>>> >It’s pretty hard to get further education, at least in Vancouver. New
>>> > >immigrants are treated as foreigners, and they cannot be admitted to
>>> > >graduate scool with A TOEFL core 600 or above because a lot of new >
>>> >immigrants with MS., Ph.D., or MD. degree are forced to go back to >
>>> >school to earn a living (typically CN$15,000 a year, that’s >
>>> >US$10344/year). We have a MD. to do his Ph.D. in our department
>>> because > >he could not find a job for a year.
>
>
>If they are sub-standard in English, the national language, of course
>they are not accepted.
>
>
>>I suggest that you should try other places if you want to further your
>>education. There are so many colleges and universities elsewhere in the
>>country. Why don’t you try going to Ontario or even Nova Scotia, a small
>>province with a population of under 1 million, and yet has got 11
>>universities?
>
>> > > >The medical care is
>>> not free. I am paying CN$75 a month to be able to > >get that “free”
>>> medical care. I remember Sweden has real free medical > >care. > > >If
>>> I had known what I know about Canada today, I would not have made >
>>> >that mistake.
>
>
>Why should it be free?
>It is free if you are a prostitute getting abortions every month or
>so.
>It is free if you are a dope user.
>It is free if you are a disease spreading faggot spreading AIDS!!
>
>For normal people and families, IT IS NOT FREE!!!
>
>>I agree with you that countries in Europe have far more generous social
>>welfare and benefits compared to Canada. They have totally free medical
>>and dental services, free education at all levels, generous housing
>>subsidies, and high replacement rate for unemployment benefits (up to a
>>staggering 90% in Germany). One must not forget that the direct and
>>indirect taxation rates are also very high. In Sweden, the country that
>>you have quoted, the marginal tax rate on income can be as high as 90%.
>>The sales tax is also very high. The UK VAT is at 17.5%, which is already
>>the lowest in the EU.
>
>>Only BC and Alberta charge premia for their medical services. If you don’t
>>like paying them, why don’t you consider moving to other provinces?
>>Eastern Canada is now experiencing an economic boom – probably you will
>>find it easier to find a job or going to university there + there is no
>>medical premium to pay every month!
>
>
>And don’t forget the new taxation on those Chinese immigrants stupid
>enough to stay in Canada.
>The revenuers feel that the Chinese can make up for the more than $700
>MILLIONS that the JEW BRONFMANs did not pay in Income Tax when they
>took their 2,2 billion profits out of Canada!!!
>
>Read the story below!!!
>Last Updated: Tuesday 21 July 1998
> TOP STORIES
>Canada sees sharp drop in Asian investor immigrants
>The Vancouver Sun
>Vancouver Sun
>
>Investor and entrepreneurial immigrants from Hong Kong and Taiwan —
>Canada’s top two sources — have dropped 94 per cent and 78 per cent
>respectively in the past year, according to confidential federal figures.
>
>Vancouver lawyer Mason Loh released the figures Monday as B.C. business
>leaders lobby intensively against the federal government’s controversial foreign
>assets reporting law.
>
>”In this age of globalization, successful business people and investors are
>generally well-informed, decisive and mobile,” Loh said.
>”They see foreign-asset reporting as discriminatory, invasive, inconvenient,
>costly to comply with and oppressive.”
>
>His comments came as Premier Glen Clark prepared to try to persuade the
>federal government to kill the law, which critics say is deterring investment
>and is a factor in the downturn in the B.C. economy.
>Acting press secretary Teresa Wat confirmed the premier plans to call
>National Revenue Minister Herb Dhaliwal to discuss the legislation, which is
>widely opposed by British Columbia business and political leaders.
>”The premier wants to bring to [Dhaliwal’s] attention the impact the overseas
>[reporting] legislation has had on the B.C. economy,” Wat said Monday.
>
>From all countries, the number of investor immigrants fell 38 per cent between
>1996 and 1997. Between the first quarter of 1997 and the first quarter 1998,
>the decline was 72 per cent.
>The figures were obtained by Montreal immigration lawyer Richard Kurland
>under an Access to Information application.
>
>Business leaders’ lobbying efforts against the bill have included bending
>Clark’s ear during a fund-raising dinner cruise last week. More than 100
>supporters, including about 20 prominent Asian business leaders, attended.
>Vancouver realtor David Choi wrote to Clark urging him to express his
>”strongest opposition” to the legislation.
>
>”It is a bad [law] because it fails to achieve the objective of catching tax
>evaders and resources end up being wasted on honest taxpayers,” wrote
>Choi, president of Royal Pacific Real Estate Group.
>”The [federal] government does not know the cost of implementing the
>legislation, nor does it know the cost of compliance on the part of taxpayers,
>nor does it know the economic impact of the legislation.”
>During a charity walkathon Sunday, Choi, the son of philanthropist C.K. Choi,
>collected more than 1,000 signatures on a petition calling on Ottawa to repeal
>the law.
>
>First introduced in 1996, the assets-reporting law caused a furore in the
>business community, particularly in B.C., where two-thirds of wealthy
>immigrants choose to live.
>Under the legislation, passed in 1997, Canadian residents are required to
>disclose all assets held outside the country if their original cost exceeded
>$100,000.
>
>Assets include bank accounts, joint ventures, shares, non-resident trusts,
>real estate holdings and other investments. Exempted are property used
>exclusively in an active business, and residences for personal use.
>Stiff penalties would be imposed for non-compliance.
>
>While Revenue Canada claims the new measures are aimed primarily at
>Canadians who evade taxes by hiding assets in overseas tax havens such as
>the Cayman Islands, many Asians believe they are being targeted.
>Others complained the rules are discriminatory since they don’t apply to
>domestic assets, and fears persist that the regulations may be a precursor to
>a wealth tax.
>
>Critics point out existing tax laws already empower Revenue Canada to
>conduct spot checks and audits of suspected tax evaders.
>
>The new regulations have been blamed for triggering the departure of wealthy
>immigrants while discouraging others from coming here.
>
>Lobby groups urging federal Finance Minister Paul Martin to scrap the
>legislation include the B.C. Business Council, Vancouver Board of Trade and
>Canadian Chamber of Commerce.
>Along with Clark, B.C. Finance Minister Joy MacPhail and her predecessor,
>Andrew Petter, are on record as opposing the reporting regulations, as is
>Opposition leader Gordon Campbell.
>Also opposed is B.C.’s federal caucus, including cabinet ministers David
>Anderson and Raymond Chan; members of Parliament Ted McWhinney,
>Sophia Leung and Lou Sekora, and senators Jack Austin and Ray Perrault.
>
>Martin earlier postponed implementation of the regulations until April 1999 and
>asked Auditor-General Denis Desautels for a review.
>Last month, Desautels submitted his report to the Commons, saying he found
>the law to be justified.
>
>This prompted Hong Kong’s influential English-language newspaper, The
>South China Morning Post, to predict an exodus of wealthy immigrants from
>Canada.
>
>
>
>On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 19:04:02 GMT,
>
>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese, who have returned from
>Canada to Hong Kong, because of the extorion of Revenue Canada??
>
>Rumor is that the number for the past 15 months, is now over 380,000
>families, with all their wealth…
>
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:18:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>For the benefit of those Chinese, who may be considering moving to
>>Canada – BEWARE!!!
>
>>The article below was published last year, and is picked up from Deja
>>News.
>
>>On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:44:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>
>>This is probably true.
>
>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>
>>The same day that the Auditor-General of canada exposed this, the
>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>
>>This is in writing, on page 2 of the t1 general tax return for year
>>1996!!!
>
>
>>The tax is definitely NOT IMAGINARY, and the more than 200,000 former
>>Chinese residents of Canada, who have returned to Hong Kong, are in a
>>position to call the Blankety Blank a LIAR!!!
>
>
>>>This is completely untrue as well you know. There is no income tax on
>>>assets, there is income tax on the income derived from those assets.
>
>>>>The section clearly says ASSETS, not Income, as all the Chinese who
>>>>return to Hong Kong will tell you!!!
>
>>Further, the same section as appeared on the tax returns for 1996
>>year, is now also on the tax returns for 1997!!!
>
>>>Again the feilyu in HK is proven a liar!!!
>
>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>returns.
>
>>>>Further, the requirement to report those assets has been postponed.
>
>>>You are again LYING, since this section has been included in the
>>>>reporting requirements for LAST YEAR’S TAX RETURNS!!!
>
>
>>>Chinese are STILL leaving Canada, to return to HK and SE Asia. Just ask
>>>your friends and neighbours, and even the Chinese newspapers
>>>throughout the region.
>
>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>Income Taxes.
>
>>>>So the assets are overseas, however because they are overseas and they
>>>>have to be shown, the Chinese leave Canada “together with their
>>>>billions” which weren’t in Canada in the first place (remember they
>>>>were overseas). So what are the billions that they take out of Canada?
>>>>Billions? How many billionaires are there in Canada in total? How many
>>>>are Chinese? How many have left Canada?
>
>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in Vancouver,
>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>have also closed down many businesses.
>
>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>country.
>
>
>
>
>
>Part 3 – re Bronfman Jews, in Court
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:23:52 -0600, “Barry S. Marjanovich”
> wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, E. Barry Bruyea wrote:
>
>>> >A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>>> >Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>>> >trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>
>>> >The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>>> >published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>>> >family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>>> >and entertainment empire.
>
>>> >He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>>> >estimated at $700 million in this case.
>
>
>The Calgary Herald
>July 9, 1998
>
>A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>
>”Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply the tax,” lawyer Arne Peltz told
>Justice Francis Muldoon.
>
>”It was not only an oops, they missed the boat altogether,” Peltz said.
>
>”They screwed it up.”
>
>Peltz is representing George Harris, a 53-year-old office manager who took
>on the federal tax collectors after he found out in 1996 that the family
>was allowed to transfer assets of a $2.2-billion trust to the United
>States without paying taxes.
>
>The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>and entertainment empire.
>
>Harris is appealing a Federal Court decision last year saying he didn’t
>have the right to question the Revenue Canada decision because he doesn’t
>have a personal stake in the matter.
>
>But Harris has argued the matter is one of simple fairness for all.
>
>He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>estimated at $700 million in this case.
>
>Peltz argued Wednesday there should be a process to review such decisions,
>adding a similar transfer-trust case in 1985 involving a different party
>required tax to be paid.
>
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946

>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”

>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

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>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.

>Please print this form and send to:

>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________

>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.

>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]

>Attention:CHARITIES
>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:38:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>>
>>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>>
>>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>>
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>>>
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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, [email protected] (Pedro
Martori ) wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>Life Insurance??

>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY YEARS??

>Who is actually getting the $12 million – crooks in Canada, or in Cuba??

>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their reparations??

>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!

>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????

>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.

> This is the type of monkey business that Canadian premiers have
>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba…
> Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
> to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>********************************************
>Pedro Martori – Montreal, Qc, Canada
> [email protected]

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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, pmart[email protected] (Pedro
Martori ) wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>Life Insurance??

>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY YEARS??

>Who is actually getting the $12 million – crooks in Canada, or in Cuba??

>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their reparations??

>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!

>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????

>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.

> This is the type of monkey business that Canadian premiers have
>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba…
> Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
> to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>********************************************
>Pedro Martori – Montreal, Qc, Canada
> [email protected]

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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You
>>can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>>of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

sven88

On 8 Oct 1998 00:53:44 GMT, [email protected] (PONIECKA) wrote:
>Igal Pissmaker wrote:

>>My dear friend, it is very easy to find distinguish between “volunteers” and
>>those who forced to work the Nazis.

>First of all, as your “dear friend,” I would like to ask you to focus on the
>questions you are being asked. Try to answer them or at least admit you don’t
>know. Do not evade them. Do not transmute them into something entirely
>different.

>Secondly, it is NOT very easy to identify true collaborators. I’ve already
>mentioned the difficulty authorities had even with copious amounts of Nazi
>documentation when investigating displaced persons or refugees after the war.
>Part of the issue of emigration to host countries revolved around the fear that
>Nazi
>collaborators would be allowed to enter.
>
>However, if collaborators and criminals did arrive in the USA and Canada, it
>was with the knowledge and assistance of the governments. Most of what I’ve
>read concerns German scientists, Ukrainians, Latvians, Lithuanians–few Poles,
>if any.
>
>So who is the target of your thread?

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On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:42:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>From Deja News, some more interesting points, worth further
>discussion, regarding the Christkillers, and the comments of Jesus
>Christ.
>
>
>On Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:53:38 -0700, Clancy
> wrote:
>
>>JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44
>
>> “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye
>> will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in
>> the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a
>> lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of
>> it. – then answered the Jews – ”
>
>>(which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)
>
>
>> “The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how
>> numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power
>> they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals
>> and deceivers.”
>
>>SENECA (Lucius Annaeus Seneca). First century Roman philosopher.
>
>> “The customs of that most criminal nation have gained such
>> strength that they have now been received in all lands. The
>> conquered have giveN laws to the conquerors.” (De Superstitione)
>
>>DIO CASSIUS. Second century Roman historian. Describing the savage Jewish
>>uprising against the Roman empire that has been acknowledged as the turning
>>point downward in the course of that great state-form:
>
>> “The Jews were destroying both Greeks and Romans. They ate the
>> flesh of their victims, made belts for themselves out of their
>> entrails, and daubed themselves with their blood… In all,
>> 220,000 men perished in Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus, and for
>> this reason no Jew may set foot in Cyprus today.” (Roman History)
>
>>DIODORUS SICULUS. First century Greek historian.Observed that Jews treated
>>other people as enemies and inferiors.
>
>> “Usury” is the practice of lending money at excessive interest
>> rates. This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for
>> Gentiles. It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!
>
>>BERNARDINO OF FELTRO. 15th century Italian priest. A mild man who extolled
>>patience and charity in normal circumstances, he described himself as a
>>”barking dog” when dealing with Jews:
>
>> “Jewish usurers bleed the poor to death and grow fat on their
>> substance, and I who live on alms, who feed on the bread of the
>> poor, shall I then be mute before outraged charity? Dogs bark to
>> protect those who feed them, and I, who am feed by the poor,
>> shall I see them robbed of what belongs to them and keep silent?”
>> (E. Flornoy, Le Bienbeureux Bernardin the Feltre)
>
>>AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his “On the
>>Governance of the Jews,” he wrote:
>
>> “The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained
>> from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to
>> worked so that they could earn their living instead of doing
>> nothing but becoming avaricious.”
>
>>HILAIARE BELLOC, in the book THE JEWS, page 9
>
>> “There is already something like a Jewish monopoly in high
>> finance … There is the same element of Jewish monopoly in the
>> silver trade, and in the control of various other metals, notably
>> lead, nickel, quicksilver. What is most disquieting of all, this
>> tendency to monopoly is spreading like a disease.”
>
>>H. H. BEAMISH, in New York Speech, October 30, 1937
>
>> “The Boer War occurred 37 years ago. Boer means farmer. Many
>> criticized a great power like Britain for trying to wipe out the
>> Boers. Upon making inquiry, I found all the gold and diamond
>> mines of South Africa were owned by Jews; that Rothschild
>> controlled gold; Samuels controlled silver, Baum controlled other
>> mining, and Moses controlled base metals. Anything these people
>> touch they inevitably pollute.”
>
>>W. HUGHES, Premier of Australia, Saturday Evening Post, June 19, 1919
>
>> “The Montefiores have taken Australia for their own, and there is
>> not a gold field or a sheep run from Tasmania to New South Wales
>> that does not pay them a heavy tribute. They are the real owners
>> of the antipodean continent. What is the good of our being a
>> wealthy nation, if the wealth is all in the hands of German
>> Jews?”
>
>>POPE CLEMENT VIII
>
>> “All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their
>> monopolies and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people
>> into a state of poverty, especially the farmers, working class
>> people and the very poor.
>> Then as now Jews have to be reminded intermittently anew that
>> they were enjoying rights in any country since they left
>> Palestine and the Arabian desert, and subsequently their ethical
>> and moral doctrines as well as their deeds rightly deserve to be
>> exposed to criticism in whatever country they happen to live.”
>
>>NESTA WEBSTER, In World Revolution, The Plot against Civilazation, page 163
>
>> “Since the earliest times it is as the exploiter that the Jew has
>> been known amongst his fellow men of all races and creeds.
>> Moreover, he has persistently shown himself ungrateful… The
>> Jews have always formed a rebellious element in every state.”
>
>>FRANZ LISZT, famed composer quoted in Col. E. N. Sanctuary’s Are These
>>Things So?, page 278
>
>> “The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are
>> dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale
>> expulsion, a question which will be one of life or death, good
>> health or chronic disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social
>> fever.”
>
>
>>MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William Hazlet,
>>page 43
>
>> “But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though
>> overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a
>> pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If
>> they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort
>> twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep
>> on guard against them.”
>
>>REV. GORDON WINROD, in his book The Keys to Christian Understanding, pages
>>114 – 115
>
>> “Judaism does not know Jesus Christ. Judaism hates Jesus Christ.
>> When St. Paul was in Judaism, before he was converted to
>> Christianity, he hated Jesus Christ and persecuted Christians and
>> Christianity.”
>> Paul said: “You have heard of my earlier career in Judaism – how
>> furiously I persecuted the Church of God, and made havoc of it;
>> and how in devotion to Judaism I out-stripped many men of may own
>> age among my people, being far more zealous than they for the
>> tradition of my forefathers.” (Gal. 1:13, 14, Weymouth
>> Translation)
>
>>While in Judaism, Paul persecuted Christians because of his intense hatred
>>for Christians and because of his conformity to the tradition of the
>>fathers. This shows that the tradition of teachings of Judaism are filled
>>with hate for Christians.
>>Few people know of this because they do not carefully read their Scriptures
>>and because of the great pains which Jews have take to deceive the
>>Christians. Care has been exerted by the Jews to hide their
>>ECONOMIC-POLITICAL conspiracy for complete world domination UNDER high
>>sounding words that have a “RELIGIOUS” ring in the ears of Christians.
>>The Jews use such “religious” sounding words as “the Jewish faith,” “the
>>Jewish religion,” “Jewish spiritual values,” “Jewish religious doctrines,”
>>and like phrases which deceive and lead the unlearned into total
>>equanimity.
>>Behind this mask of religiosity stands a complete plan for world
>>government, world power, world conquest, a Jewish kingdom of this world,
>>and the destruction of Christianity.
>
>>REV. WILLIAM S. MITCHELL of Philadelphia, quoted in Count
>>Cherep-Spiridovich’s book The Secret World Government, page 194
>
>> “If there is an ingrate in history, it is the Jew. In this land
>> which befriended him he as conspired, plotted, undermined,
>> prostituted and corrupted and (hiding to this hour behind the
>> braver screen of other folks), dares to contrive and scheme the
>> death of every Christian principle which has protected him.”
>
>>ST. JUSTIN, martyr stated in 116 A. D.
>
>> “The Jews were behind all the persecutions of the Christians.
>> They wandered through the country everywhere hating and
>> undermining the Christian faith.”
>
>>ST. JOHN, Gospel of St. John VII:1
>
>> “After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not
>> walk in Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him.”
>
>>M. H. DE HEEKELINGEN, in Israel: Son Passe, Son Avenir
>
>> “The former Rabbi Drach, converted to Catholicism, says that the
>> Talmud contains “a large number of musing, utterly ridiculous
>> extravagancies, most revolting indecencies, and, above all, the
>> most horrible blasphemies against everything which the Christian
>> religion holds most sacred and most dear.”
>> “In the matter of the translation of the Talmud by non-Jews, we
>> have always preferred that of Luzsensky, whose accuracy has been
>> established by the Courts. In 1923, the Public Prosecutor of
>> Hungary caused his Hungarian Talmud to be seized on account of
>> “attack on public morals” and “pornography.” In delivering its
>> verdict, the Court declared ‘INTER ALIA:’
>> “The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzsensky are
>> to be found, without exception, in the Talmud. His translation is
>> correct, in that it renders these passages, which are actually to
>> be found in the original text of the Talmud, after their true
>> meaning.”
>
>> QUINTAS SPETIMUS FLORENS TERTULLIAN (160 – 230 A. D.) Latin
>> Church Father “The Jews formed the breeding ground of all
>> anti-Christian actions.”
>
>>REV. MARTIN LUTHER, sermon at Eisleben, a few days before his death,
>>February, 1546
>
>> “Besides, you also have many Jews living in the country, who do
>> much harm… You should know the Jews blaspheme and violate the
>> name of our Savior day for day… for that reason you, Milords
>> and men of authority, should not tolerate but expel them. They
>> are our public enemies and incessantly blaspheme our Lord Jesus
>> Christ, they call our Blessed Virgin Mary a harlot and her Holy
>> Son a bastard and to us they give the epithet of changelings and
>> abortions.
>> Therefore deal with them harshly as they do nothing but
>> excruciatingly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, trying to rob us
>> of our lives, our health, our honor and belongings.”
>
>>MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 – 1789)
>
>> “Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to
>> remain here without my written permission. I know of no other
>> troublesome pest within the state than this race, which
>> impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending
>> and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises.
>> Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as
>> much as possible.”
>
>>(The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia states that “The Talmud is the real
>>”bible” of the Jews and that it supersedes the Old Testament. This volume
>>has been condemned down through the ages for preaching hatred for Christ
>>and all Christians. Read “THE TALMUD UNMASKED” for the full shocking
>>details.)
>
>>DIDEROT, DENIS. 18th century French scholar. His famous ENCYCLOPEDIE, the
>>bible of the pre-revolutionary French “enlightenment,” has often been
>>complained of by Jewish writers as ‘anti-Semitic.’ Some of Diderot’s other
>>writings are likewise unfriendly:
>
>> “And you, angry and brutish people, vile and vulgar men, slaves
>> worthy of the yoke [Talmudism] which you bear … Go, take back
>> your books and remove yourselves from me. (LA MOISADE)
>> [The Talmud] taught the Jews to steal the goods of Christians, to
>> regard them as savage beasts, to push them over the precipice …
>> to kill them with impunity and to utter every morning the most
>> horrible imprecations against them. (JUIFS)
>
>>NASTA WEBSTER, in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, page 370
>
>> “The Jewish conception of the Jews as the Chosen People who must
>> eventually rule the world forms indeed the basis of Rabbinical
>> Judaism… The Jewish religion now takes its stand on the Talmud
>> rather than on the Bible.”
>
>>F. TROCASE, in Jewish Austria
>
>> “No obstacle discourages them; they persevere throughout the
>> world, throughout the centuries, the unity of their race. The
>> Talmud has given them a powerful organization which modern
>> progress has been unable to change. Deep, ineradicable hatred of
>> everything that is not Jewish stimulates them in war which they
>> wage against Christian Society, which is too divided to be able
>> to fight with the necessary energy.”
>
>>COUNT HELMUTH VON MOLTKE, Prussian general
>
>> “The Jews form a state, and, obeying their own laws, they evade
>> those of their host country.
>> The Jews always consider an oath regarding a Christian not
>> binding. During the Campaign of 1812 the Jews were spies, they
>> were paid by both sides, they betrayed both sides.”
>
>>MOHAMMED, in the Koran
>
>> “Whoever is a friend of a Jew, belong to them, becomes one of
>> them, God cannot tolerate this mean people. The Jews have
>> wandered from divine religion. You must not relent in your work
>> which must show up Jewish deceit.”
>
>>BACON, FRANCIS. 16th century British writer, politician. In his The New
>>Atlantis, he remarked that Jews
>
>> “hate the name of Christ and have a secret and innate rancor
>> against the people among whom they live.”
>
>>He also disapproved of non-Jewish usurers as “Judaizers” who would wear
>>”tawny bonnets” like Jews.
>
>>LUTHER, MARTIN. 16th century German religious reformer.
>
>> “They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only
>> perverted and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to
>> end and without ceasing with their interpretations. And all of
>> the anxious sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is
>> directed to the time when some day they would like to deal with
>> us heathen as they dealt with the heathen in Persia at the time
>> of Esther… On how they love the book of Esther, which so nicely
>> agrees with their bloodthirsty, revengeful and murderous desire
>> and hope. (1)
>> The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful
>> people as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who
>> desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. And
>> the foremost undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is
>> that he should slay and murder the whole world with the sword. As
>> they at first demonstrated against us Christians and would like
>> to do now, if they only could; have also tried it often and have
>> been repeatedly struck on their snouts…
>> Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since
>> no people under the sun always have been, still are, and always
>> will remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their
>> cursed usury. They also find comfort with this: “When the Messiah
>> comes, He shall take all the gold and silver in the world and
>> distribute it among the Jews. (2) Thus, wherever they can direct
>> Scripture to their insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so.
>> Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil, you
>> have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement and enemy than
>> a real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some
>> among them who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But
>> all of them are surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In
>> history, therefore, they are often accused of poisoning wells,
>> stealing children and mutilating them; as in Trent, Weszensee and
>> the like. Of course they deny this. Be it so or not, however, I
>> know full well that the ready will is not lacking with them if
>> they could only transform it into deeds, in secret or openly. (3)
>
>> A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are
>> so at enemity with the Christians above all others; for which
>> they have no reason, since we only do good to them.
>> They live among us in our homes, under our protection, use land
>> and highways, market and streets. Princes and government sit by,
>> snore and have their maws open, let the Jews take from their
>> purse and chest, steal and rob whatever they will. That is, they
>> permit themselves and their subjects to be abused and sucked dry
>> and reduced to beggars with their own money, through the usury of
>> the Jews. For the Jews, as foreigners, certainly should have
>> nothing from us; and what they have certainly must be ours. They
>> do not work, do not earn anything from us, neither do we donate
>> or give it to them. Yet they have our money and goods and are
>> lords in our land where they are supposed to be in exile!
>> If a thief steals ten gulden he must hang; if he robs people on
>> the highway, his head is gone. But a Jew, when he steals ten tons
>> of gold through his usury is dearer than God himself!
>> Do not their TALMUD and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if
>> a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in
>> Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen.
>> Therefore, to steal and rob (as they do with their moneylending)
>> from a heathen, is a divine service… And they are the masters
>> of the world and we are their servants – yea, their cattle!
>> I maintain that in three fables of Aesop there is more wisdom to
>> be found than in all the books of the Talmudists and rabbis and
>> more than ever could come into the hearts of the Jews…
>> Should someone think I am saying too much – I am saying much too
>> little! For I see in [their] writings how they curse us Goyim and
>> wish as all evil in their schools and prayers. They rob us of our
>> money through usury, and wherever they are able, they play us all
>> manner of mean tricks… No heathen has done such things and none
>> would to so except the Devil himself and those whom he possesses
>> – as he possesses the Jews.
>> Burgensis, who was a very learned rabbi among them and by the
>> grace of God became a Christian (which seldom occurs), is much
>> moved that in their schools they so horribly curse us Christians
>> (as Lyra also writes) and from that draws the conclusion that
>> they must not be the people of God.
>> Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain
>> about being captives among us! Jerusalem was destroyed more than
>> 1,400 years ago during that time we Christians have been tortured
>> and persecuted by the Jews in all the world. On top of that, we
>> do not know to this day what Devil brought them into our country.
>> We did not fetch them from Jerusalem!… Yes, we have and hold
>> them captive, as I would like to keep my rheumatism, and all
>> other diseases and misfortunes, who must wait as a poor servant,
>> with money and property and everything I have! I wish they were
>> in Jerusalem with the other Jews and whomsoever they would like
>> to have with them.
>
>> Now what are we going to do with these rejected, condemned Jewish
>> people?… Let us apply the ordinary wisdom of other nations like
>> France, Spain, Bohemia, et al., who made them give an account of
>> what they had stolen through usury, and divided it evenly; but
>> expelled them from their country;. For as heard before, God’s
>> wrath is so great over them that through soft mercy they only
>> become more wicked, through hard treatment, however, only a
>> little better. Therefore, away with them!
>> How much more unbearable it is that we should permit the entire
>> Christendom and all of us to be bought with our own money, be
>> slandered and cursed by the Jews, who on top of all that be made
>> rich and our lords, who laugh us to scorn and are tickled by
>> their audacity!
>> What a joyful affair that would be for the Devil and his angels,
>> and cause them to laugh through their snouts like a sow grinning
>> at her little pigs, but deserving real wrath before God. (From
>> THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES)
>> Maybe mild-hearted and gentle Christians will believe that I am
>> too rigorous and drastic against the poor, afflicted Jews,
>> believing that I ridicule them and treat them with much sarcasm.
>> By my word, I am far too weak to be able to ridicule such a
>> satanic brood. I would fain to do so, but they are far greater
>> adepts at mockery than I and possess a god who is master in this
>> art. It is the Evil One himself.
>> Even with no further evidence than the Old Testament, I would
>> maintain, and no person on earth could alter my opinion, that the
>> Jews as they are today are veritably a mixture of all the
>> depraved and malevolent knaves of the whole world over, who have
>> then been dispersed in all countries, similarly to the Tartars,
>> Gypsies and such folk.”
>
>>WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.
>
>> “They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the
>> enemy’s armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our
>> liberties and the great cause we are engaged in… It is much to
>> be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down
>> as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the
>> happiness of America.”
>
>>This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a “CHIT CHAT AROUND THE
>>TABLE DURING INTERMISSION,” at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention
>>of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth
>>Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.
>
>> “I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
>> young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The
>> menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
>> In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they
>> have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial
>> integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been
>> assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian
>> religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its
>> restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when
>> opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially,
>> as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
>> For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate
>> in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call
>> Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee
>> simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning.
>> Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on
>> vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must
>> subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
>> If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
>> Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here
>> in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land
>> and change our form of government, for which we Americans have
>> shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our
>> liberty.
>> If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our
>> descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them
>> substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing
>> their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews
>> for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
>> Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will
>> nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never
>> be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American’s, and
>> will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard
>> cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this
>> country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this
>> Constitutional Convention.
>
>>STUYVESANT, PETER. 17th century Dutch governor in America.
>
>> “The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here,
>> but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful
>> trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior
>> magistrates, as also to the people having the most affection for
>> you; the Deaconry also fearing that owing to their present
>> indigence they might become a charge in the coming winter, we
>> have, for the benefit of this weak newly developing place and
>> land in general, deemed it useful to require them in a friendly
>> way to depart; praying also most seriously in this connection,
>> for ourselves also for the general community of your worships,
>> that the deceitful race – such hateful enemies and blasphemers of
>> the name of Christ – not be allowed further to infect and trouble
>> this new colony. (Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber of the Dutch
>> West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22, 1654.)
>
>>The Jews whom he attempted to oust merely applied to their fellow Jews in
>>Holland, and the order came back from the Company countermanding the
>>expulsion. (For a similar situation during the Civil War, see ULYSSES
>>GRANT). Among the reasons given by “their worships” for over-ruling their
>>governor, one stands out rather glaringly, in view of the usual Jewish
>>contention that their people were ‘poor and persecuted:’ ” …and also
>>because of the large amount of capital which they have invested in shares
>>of this Company.” (Harry Golden and Martin Rywell, THE JEWS IN AMERICAN
>>HISTORY)
>
>>THE GEORGIA COLONY IN AMERICA. On January 5, 1734, the trustees ordered
>>that three Jews who had been sending correligionists into the colony
>>without authorization “use their endeavors that the said Jews may be
>>removed from the Colony of Georgia, as the best and only satisfaction that
>>they can give to the Trustees for such an indignity offered to Gentlemen
>>acting under His Majesty’s Charter.” (C. Jones, HISTORY OF SAVANNAH)
>
>>JEFFERSON, THOMAS. 18th century American statesman.
>
>> “Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign
>> to the land they live in. ” (D. Boorstin, THE AMERICANS)
>> “Those who labor in the earth are the Chosen People of God, if
>> ever he had a chosen people. ” (NOTES ON VIRGINIA)
>
>>BEAMISH, HENRY H. 20th century British publisher.
>
>> “There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You
>> must face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here.
>> I was here forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open and
>> you were then free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat –
>> that is their reward. ” (New York speech, October 30, 1937)
>
>>HARRINGTON, LORD. 19th century British statesman. Opposed admission of
>>Jewish immigrants to England because:
>
>> “They are the great moneylenders and loan contractors of the
>> world… The consequence is that the nations of the world are
>> groaning under heavy systems of taxation and national debt. They
>> have ever been the greatest enemies of freedom. (Speech in the
>> House of Lords, July 12, 1858)
>
>>WALTER CRICK, British Manufacturer, in the NORTHAMPTON DAILY ECHO, March
>>19. 1925)
>
>> “Jews can destroy by means of finance. Jews are International.
>> Control of credits in this country is not in the hands of the
>> English, but of Jews. It has become the biggest danger the
>> British Empire ever had to face.”
>
>>WORLD FAMOUS MEN of the past accused the Jews of founding Communism. This
>>charge is well founded. The Communist philosopy was drawn up by Karl Marx
>>who descended from a long line of Rabbis. His ideology of anti-Christian
>>and Socialist thought is outlined in the Jewish “TALMUD” which is the
>>”bible” of the Jews. Of the four political groups which overthrew the
>>Christan Czar of Russia two were 100% Jewish. They were the Mensheviks and
>>The Jewish Bund. The other two were the Socialist Revolutionary Party and
>>the Bolsheviks. Both were headed by Jews but had some Gentile members.
>>Today we now know that Lenin was Jewish and all of the leaders of his first
>>government were Jews. They were Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Sverdlow.
>>The wealthiest Jewish banker in the world at that time, Jacob Schiff of
>>Kuhn, Loeb investment bank of New York City, gave Trotsky and Lenin $20
>>million to overthrow the Czar and establish the Soviet tyranny (according
>>to the “NEW YORK JOURNAL-AMERICAN” of February 3, 1949.)
>
>>CHURCHILL, WINSTON. 20th century British politician. In 1920, he wrote a
>>long newspaper article of the recent Bolshevik seizure of Russia. After
>>praising what he called the “national Jews” of Russia, he said:
>
>> “In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise
>> the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this
>> sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy
>> populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of
>> their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of
>> their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual
>> hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new.
>> From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and
>> down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg
>> (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide
>> revolutionary conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and
>> for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested
>> development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has
>> been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs.
>> Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in the
>> tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
>> every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now
>> at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the
>> underworlds of the great cities of Europe and America have
>> gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have
>> become practically the undisputed masters of the enormous empire.
>
>> There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of
>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian
>> Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic
>> Jews. It is certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs
>> all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of
>> the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration
>> and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders… In the Soviet
>> institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astounding.
>> And the prominent if not the principal part in the system of
>> terrorism applied by the extraordinary Commissions for combating
>> Counter Revolution has been take by Jews, and in some notable
>> cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews
>> in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in
>> Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany
>> (especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to
>> prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>> Although in all these countries there are many nonJews every whit
>> as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part
>> played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the
>> population is astonishing. (“Zionism versus Bolshevism: A
>> Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People.” ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY
>> HERALD, London, February 8, 1920.)
>
>>BAKUNYIN, MIKHYL. 19th century Russian revolutionary.
>
>> “Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or
>> less intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews
>> are everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers,
>> politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in
>> short, literary brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with
>> one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and
>> their arses sitting upon the German press. They have grabbed hold
>> of all newspapers, and you can imagine what a nauseating
>> literature is the outcome of it.
>> Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting
>> sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an
>> instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds.
>> This may seem strange. What could there be in common between
>> communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a
>> strong state centralization, and where this exists there must
>> inevitably exist a state central bank, and where this exists,
>> there the parasitic Jewish nation, which speculates upon the
>> labor of the people, will always find the means for its
>> existence…
>> In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime,
>> under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately
>> connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but
>> of political differences as well – this Jewish world is today
>> largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschil. I am sure that, on
>> the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and
>> that on the other hand, women, converted into a uniform mass,
>> would rise, fall asleep, work and live at the beat of the drum;
>> the privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and
>> the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals
>> carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous
>> extension of the international speculations of the national
>> banks… (Pol_mique contres les Juifs)
>
>>This startling piece of prediction is particularly impressive to those who
>>have observed the Soviet scene and notice its strange relationship with
>>capitalist financiers – overwhelmingly Jewish – since the revolution. The
>>line runs from Olof Aschberg, self-described “Bolshevik banker” who ferried
>>to Trotsky the huge sums raised for the revolution by financiers in Europe
>>and America, to Armand Hammer in the 1970s, who has specialized in
>>multimillion-dollar trade concessions with the now supposedly
>>’anti-Semitic’ commissars.
>
>>WILHELM II. German Kaiser.
>
>> “A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like
>> a bad insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can
>> do mischief – even by pogroms, if necessary.
>> The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany
>> too. I was far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I
>> bitterly regret the favors I showed the prominent Jewish
>> bankers.” (CHICAGO TRIBUNE, July 2, 1922)
>
>>CARDINAL MINDSZENTY, of Hungary quoted in B’nai B’rith Messenger, January
>>28, 1949
>
>> “The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews… they demoralize our
>> country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that
>> is torturing Hungary.”
>
>>ADRIEN ARCAND, New York speech, October 30, 1937
>>
>> “When it came to Mexico, the promoters of Communism were the Jews
>> Calles, Hubermann and Aaron Saenz; in Spain we saw Aza±a and
>> Rosenberg; in Hungary we saw Bela Kun, Szamuelly, Agoston and
>> dozen other Jews; in Bavaria, we saw Kurt Eisner and a host of
>> other Jews; in Belgium Marxian Socialism brought to power
>> Vadervelde alias Epstein, and Paul Hymans, two Jews; in France,
>> Marxian Socialism brought forth the Jews Leon Blum (who showed so
>> well his Jewish instincts in his filthy book Du Mariarge),
>> Mandel, Zyromsky, Danain and a whole tribe of them; in Italy we
>> had seen the Jews Nathan and Claudio Treves. Everywhere, Marxism
>> brings Jews on the top – And this is no hazard.”
>
>>HILAIRE BELLOC, renown historian in G. K.’s WEEKLY, February 4, 1937
>
>> “The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in
>> organization and direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As
>> for anyone who does not know that the Bolshevist movement in
>> Russia is Jewish, I can only say that he must be a man who is
>> taken in by the suppression of our deplorable press.”
>
>>A. HOMER, writes in Judaism and Bolshevism, page 7
>
>> “History shows that the Jew has always been, by nature, a
>> revolutionary and that, since the dispersion of his race in the
>> second century, he has either initiated or assisted revolutionary
>> movements in religion, politics and finance, which weakened the
>> power of the States wherein he dwelt. On the other hand, a few
>> far-seeing members of that race have always been at hand to reap
>> financial and political advantage coincident with such
>> upheavals.”
>
>>CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY SCHYLER, American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia, in a
>>military intelligence report dated March 1, 1919, to Lt. Col. Barrows in
>>Vladivostok
>
>> “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States
>> but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning
>> guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type, who
>> have been in the United States and there absorbed every one of
>> the worst phases of our civilization without having the least
>> understanding of what we really mean by liberty.”
>
>>MRS. CLARE SHERIDAN, Traveler, Lecturer in NEW YORK WORLD, December 15,
>>1923
>
>> “The Communists are Jews, and Russia is being entirely
>> administered by them. They are in every government office, bureau
>> and newspaper. They are driving out the Russians and are
>> responsible for the anti-Semitic feeling which is increasing.”
>
>>MAJOR ROBERT H. WILLIAMS, in Fecp and the Minority Machine, page 10
>
>> “B’nai B’rith, the secret Jewish fraternity, was organized in
>> 1843, awakening world Jewish aspirations, or Zionism, and its
>> name, meaning “Sons of the Covenant,” suggests that the 12 men
>> who organized the fraternity aimed at bringing about the
>> fulfillment of “the Covenant,” or the supposed Messianic promise
>> of rulership over all peoples. To rule all peoples, it is first
>> necessary to bring them together in a world federation or world
>> government – which is the avowed aim of both Communists and
>> Zionists.”

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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You
>>can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>>of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

sven88

On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 18:26:31 GMT, igal_pissmaker wrote:

>: In article <[email protected]>,
>: [email protected] (PONIECKA) wrote:
>:Exactly what is your definition of “collaborators” ?
>
>
>Good question. Despite it deserved a separate thread (maybe I will start
>one)let’s for know put it here: Nazi criminals – ones who directly killed,
>maimed,
>gave orders and oversaw the genocide. Collaborators – ones who helped nazi
>machine run smoothly (volunteers) – it maybe railway station managers, or
>auxilarry police who did not do the dirty work, armed vehicle repairmen and so
>on.
>
>Now the intereting question: How we will qualify women who volunteerly were
>slipping with enemy soldiers providing them comphort and moral support ( that
>kind was everywhere – in France, Belgium, Poland as well – how many of them
>find asylum across the ocean with american boys???), instead of giving them
>hard time willingly transmitting STD or something – to make life of occupants
>miserable. I do remember the roumors that one of resistant female fighters in
>belorussia manage to destroy fighting ability of roughly the batallion of
>enemies in that manner. She was considered to be awarded the order of Lenin
>for that, but unfortunately died of very same war struggle consequences.
>I=P
>
>
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From [email protected] Thu Oct 8 17:22:19 EDT 1998
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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:24:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 21 Apr 1998 14:33:08 GMT, “jjjjjjjjjj” wrote:
>
>>It is a well known fact that at the beginning there were many jewish groups
>>that supported the rise of the Nazis in Germany.
>
>In fact, many JEWS became senior officers in the German Military!!!
>
>
>>This was because the
>>Rabbinical authorities were afraid of Jews who were marrying with Germans
>>and thus diluting the ‘purity’ of the Jewish race. This is a fact that has
>>hardly been touched upon by most Jewish sympathisers and contemporary
>>historians,with the exception of a handful of Jewish intellectuals like
>>Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak.
>>The sad fact is that Zionism shares much more in common with Nazism than
>>most people think:
>>Both Zionists and Nazis believe in the theory of racial/communal supremacy
>>Both are believers in racial/communal exclusivism
>>Both are exclusive ideologies that are intolerant of Others
>>Both are prepared to use violence to achieve their goals and both are
>>prepared to justify that use of violence
>>Both ideologies ultimately cater to the needs of their own specific and
>>exclusive constituencies- thus what happens to others is of little interest
>>to them.

>From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998

Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:

>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
he was a specialist in aerial photography–

>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
book The War Against The Jews.

Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
deportations.”]

____________________________

Or how about this?

Hitler’s Jewish Army

“Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
speaking of World War Two.

“If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”

[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
widely in Germany in the 1930s.

In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
Aryan.”

Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
whose father was a Jew.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

Sources:

William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

———————————-

http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html

Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

Thursday, April 3, 1997

Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces

by Reuters

BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]

See also:

http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html

Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

Dec. 26, 1996

An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
served in Nazi army

by William D. Montalbano
Los Angeles Times

LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
of Holocaust history.

Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

“Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
whole story.]

http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
sven88

From [email protected] Thu Oct 8 17:22:19 EDT 1998
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>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, “William Hubbard”
>wrote:

>>Strakitch tye golevo!

>Should be shta allah aboukir!!!

>>bjarnas[email protected] wrote in article
>><[email protected]>…
>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, “Fenian” < [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>[email protected] wrote in article
>><[email protected]>…
>>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, [email protected] (BUSHBADEE) wrote:

>>> >>> >>> Shouldn’t the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the swine???

>>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower than
>>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being conducted
>>> >>> in the Temples.

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On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 19:26:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 11:50:30 -0600, jacob wrote:
>>The Jewish Salami wrote:
>>> jacob wrote:
>>> >The Jewish Salami wrote:

>>> >> As far as Poland is concerned, they deserved what the Russians
>>> >> gave them for their filty, lousy treatment of the Jews. I do not
>>> >> regret the Katyn massacre or the 69 Days that Marshal Zhukov waited
>>> >> before taking Warsaw. The Poles needed a good weeding for their
>>> >> perfidy. Imagine, the Poles murdered those Jews who survived the
>>> >> death camps and returned to claim their possessions, stolen by the
>>> >> Poles who had denounced them! Poland will pay for this for a long
>>> >> time to come. It is not forgotten …
>
>>> >Is this a insane Jew or a non-Jewish provocateur?
>
>>> >J.B.
>
>>> The Jewish Salami
>
>>What you write is only partly true. This is false to generalize. You can
>>not blame all the Poles for the sin of some of them. If you do it, you
>>do the same wrong thing what the rasists are doing. They blame all the
>>Jews for the crimes, that some of them did.
>
>
>Since it is well documented historical fact that worldwide communism
>was started and maintained by JEWS, why are you now complaining if the
>Polish people, enslaved by the Russian JEWS, now dislike the JEWS???
>
>After all, it was a Polish JEW, Dzerzhinski who established the Secret
>Police for the Russian JEW -led Soviet Union!!!
>
>And it was Russian JEWs, running the Soviet Union, who enslaved Poland
>both during WWII, and of course afterwards under their occupation.
>
>
>>Second: who give you the right to speeck in the name of all Jews. Many
>>of them, that have been communists are today non-communist after they
>>convince oneself, that the communist ideology is a false one.
>>Jacob
>
>Read the list of JEW communists, and weep for the Poles murdered at
>KATYN!!!

Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
“Russian
Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
and lead revolutionary movement.

First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
Karl Marx,
was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.

While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
will
concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
that
passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
Archives:

State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet
government,
anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July
5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government
in
each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type.”

A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports
on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were
384
`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
to
Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
Government.”

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
foreign
affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
and
Moisei Uritsky.

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
little
for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”

The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
“Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”

In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
Propaganda
Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate, 65th Congress:

“We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
side
of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
that
there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
these
men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
in
this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
one
of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
northern
community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
Soviet
regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
Gordon.

I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
on
the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
because
there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
Petrograd,
but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
agitators
were Jews.

I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
that
was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
did not take kindly to it.”

Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
“anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

“The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

“There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
April,
4, 1919)

“Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin,
Rabbi
S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

“In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:

“National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs
characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death
penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
virtually untouched.

It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80
percent
of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
American professor of Russian history. . . ”

Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
were
murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
Communist bosses.

Regards,
Roger Hughes

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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946

>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”

>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!

>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com

>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.

>Please print this form and send to:

>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________

>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.

>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]

>Attention:CHARITIES
>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

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On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:42:23 +0930, Tony Hancock
wrote:

>Peter Lucas wrote:
>>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] (Harold Wood) wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> **The ‘religionist’ Australia Israel Review
>> **obviously has not been influenced by
>> **’Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>> **publishing their ‘list’ of One Nation members, but
>> **by the likes of Adolf Hitler! The neo-nazi style
>> **acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>> **distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>>
>> I must admit, I was a bit shocked that they did it. I had an instant
>> feeling of hatred toward all Jews, but upon reflection, realised that it
>> was only a small bunch of stupid mindless morons who have done this. They
>> have obviously been sucked into this ‘ON are nazis’ bullshit. If they have
>> then they are as stupid as the other sheeple and deserve my utter contempt.
>> Their act of purile childishness has not changed my feelings toward the
>> true Jews, as I know they would not lower themselves to such a despicable
>> act.
>
>The jewish (M)ultiCulturalists have demonstrated the pure evil that is
>(M)ultiCulturalism. The jews have been milking sympathy from the
>holocaust for all they can get. It has been 50 years later and it is
>time the Jewish Leaders set an example of tolerance rather than exercise
>more of the attitude that got their (M)ultiCultural stereotypical group
>into trouble in the first place.
>
>A public apology will suffice.
>
>> **need to have a class action taken out against them
>> **for the crime (among others) of ‘common assault’.
>>
>> Hmmmm, I wonder if that is possible. If so, that would give me an avenue to
>> consider a personal action against a certain person. I’ll have to look into
>> that.
>>
>> Once again, anyone low enough to do such an act is beyond any contempt that
>> society can muster. It is basically giving any weirdo or whacko out there
>> an open invitation to do whatever they want.
>
>Too right. I am seriously considering exercising my right to keep and
>bear arms for self defence. There’s too many immigrant SCUM in this
>country….and they don’t come from Asia.
>
>Cheers
>Tony Hancock
>
>Free Palestine
>
>
>
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.

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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:38:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>>
>>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”
>>>
>>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>>
>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>>>
>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>[email protected] which contains the
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>>>
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On Fri, 02 Oct 1998 20:00:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:53:14 GMT, sbjarnason a defender of JEW
>criminals wrote:
>
>On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————
>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>
>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>
>>>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York representatives of
>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>community.
>>>
>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>lords.
>>>
>>> “Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary Carter,
>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>charges.
>>>
>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>reporting requirements.
>>>
>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>attorney prosecuting the case.
>>>
>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>traffickers.
>>>
>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>between August 1995 and May 1996.
>>>
>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 — the amount
>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement —
>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>at the same location.
>>>
>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>
>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in Hebrew. The
>>>only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>Building.”
>>>
>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>federal complaint.
>>>
>>> The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service —
>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>officials said.
>>>
>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals —
>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>illicit drug profits.
>>>
>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday’s
>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them —
>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to have brought in large sums
>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder.
>>>
>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>>>
>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made out
>>>to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,” the
>>>federal complaint said.
>>>
>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>among the intermediaries.
>>>
>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>================================================================================
>>> The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>——————————————————————————–
>>> News Bureau and Archives Online
>sven88

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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:24:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 21 Apr 1998 14:33:08 GMT, “jjjjjjjjjj” wrote:
>
>>It is a well known fact that at the beginning there were many jewish groups
>>that supported the rise of the Nazis in Germany.
>
>In fact, many JEWS became senior officers in the German Military!!!
>
>
>>This was because the
>>Rabbinical authorities were afraid of Jews who were marrying with Germans
>>and thus diluting the ‘purity’ of the Jewish race. This is a fact that has
>>hardly been touched upon by most Jewish sympathisers and contemporary
>>historians,with the exception of a handful of Jewish intellectuals like
>>Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak.
>>The sad fact is that Zionism shares much more in common with Nazism than
>>most people think:
>>Both Zionists and Nazis believe in the theory of racial/communal supremacy
>>Both are believers in racial/communal exclusivism
>>Both are exclusive ideologies that are intolerant of Others
>>Both are prepared to use violence to achieve their goals and both are
>>prepared to justify that use of violence
>>Both ideologies ultimately cater to the needs of their own specific and
>>exclusive constituencies- thus what happens to others is of little interest
>>to them.

>From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998

Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:

>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
he was a specialist in aerial photography–

>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
book The War Against The Jews.

Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
deportations.”]

____________________________

Or how about this?

Hitler’s Jewish Army

“Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
speaking of World War Two.

“If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”

[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
widely in Germany in the 1930s.

In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
Aryan.”

Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
whose father was a Jew.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

Sources:

William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

———————————-

http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html

Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

Thursday, April 3, 1997

Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces

by Reuters

BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]

See also:

http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html

Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

Dec. 26, 1996

An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
served in Nazi army

by William D. Montalbano
Los Angeles Times

LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
of Holocaust history.

Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

“Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
whole story.]

http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
sven88

From [email protected] Thu Oct 8 17:24:08 EDT 1998
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>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, “William Hubbard”
>wrote:

>>Strakitch tye golevo!

>Should be shta allah aboukir!!!

>>[email protected] wrote in article
>><[email protected]>…
>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, “Fenian” < [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>[email protected] wrote in article
>><[email protected]>…
>>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, [email protected] (BUSHBADEE) wrote:

>>> >>> >>> Shouldn’t the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the swine???

>>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower than
>>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being conducted
>>> >>> in the Temples.

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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You
>>can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>>of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

sven88

On 8 Oct 1998 00:53:44 GMT, [email protected] (PONIECKA) wrote:
>Igal Pissmaker wrote:

>>My dear friend, it is very easy to find distinguish between “volunteers” and
>>those who forced to work the Nazis.

>First of all, as your “dear friend,” I would like to ask you to focus on the
>questions you are being asked. Try to answer them or at least admit you don’t
>know. Do not evade them. Do not transmute them into something entirely
>different.

>Secondly, it is NOT very easy to identify true collaborators. I’ve already
>mentioned the difficulty authorities had even with copious amounts of Nazi
>documentation when investigating displaced persons or refugees after the war.
>Part of the issue of emigration to host countries revolved around the fear that
>Nazi
>collaborators would be allowed to enter.
>
>However, if collaborators and criminals did arrive in the USA and Canada, it
>was with the knowledge and assistance of the governments. Most of what I’ve
>read concerns German scientists, Ukrainians, Latvians, Lithuanians–few Poles,
>if any.
>
>So who is the target of your thread?

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On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:42:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>From Deja News, some more interesting points, worth further
>discussion, regarding the Christkillers, and the comments of Jesus
>Christ.
>
>
>On Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:53:38 -0700, Clancy
> wrote:
>
>>JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44
>
>> “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye
>> will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in
>> the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a
>> lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of
>> it. – then answered the Jews – ”
>
>>(which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)
>
>
>> “The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how
>> numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power
>> they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals
>> and deceivers.”
>
>>SENECA (Lucius Annaeus Seneca). First century Roman philosopher.
>
>> “The customs of that most criminal nation have gained such
>> strength that they have now been received in all lands. The
>> conquered have giveN laws to the conquerors.” (De Superstitione)
>
>>DIO CASSIUS. Second century Roman historian. Describing the savage Jewish
>>uprising against the Roman empire that has been acknowledged as the turning
>>point downward in the course of that great state-form:
>
>> “The Jews were destroying both Greeks and Romans. They ate the
>> flesh of their victims, made belts for themselves out of their
>> entrails, and daubed themselves with their blood… In all,
>> 220,000 men perished in Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus, and for
>> this reason no Jew may set foot in Cyprus today.” (Roman History)
>
>>DIODORUS SICULUS. First century Greek historian.Observed that Jews treated
>>other people as enemies and inferiors.
>
>> “Usury” is the practice of lending money at excessive interest
>> rates. This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for
>> Gentiles. It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!
>
>>BERNARDINO OF FELTRO. 15th century Italian priest. A mild man who extolled
>>patience and charity in normal circumstances, he described himself as a
>>”barking dog” when dealing with Jews:
>
>> “Jewish usurers bleed the poor to death and grow fat on their
>> substance, and I who live on alms, who feed on the bread of the
>> poor, shall I then be mute before outraged charity? Dogs bark to
>> protect those who feed them, and I, who am feed by the poor,
>> shall I see them robbed of what belongs to them and keep silent?”
>> (E. Flornoy, Le Bienbeureux Bernardin the Feltre)
>
>>AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his “On the
>>Governance of the Jews,” he wrote:
>
>> “The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained
>> from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to
>> worked so that they could earn their living instead of doing
>> nothing but becoming avaricious.”
>
>>HILAIARE BELLOC, in the book THE JEWS, page 9
>
>> “There is already something like a Jewish monopoly in high
>> finance … There is the same element of Jewish monopoly in the
>> silver trade, and in the control of various other metals, notably
>> lead, nickel, quicksilver. What is most disquieting of all, this
>> tendency to monopoly is spreading like a disease.”
>
>>H. H. BEAMISH, in New York Speech, October 30, 1937
>
>> “The Boer War occurred 37 years ago. Boer means farmer. Many
>> criticized a great power like Britain for trying to wipe out the
>> Boers. Upon making inquiry, I found all the gold and diamond
>> mines of South Africa were owned by Jews; that Rothschild
>> controlled gold; Samuels controlled silver, Baum controlled other
>> mining, and Moses controlled base metals. Anything these people
>> touch they inevitably pollute.”
>
>>W. HUGHES, Premier of Australia, Saturday Evening Post, June 19, 1919
>
>> “The Montefiores have taken Australia for their own, and there is
>> not a gold field or a sheep run from Tasmania to New South Wales
>> that does not pay them a heavy tribute. They are the real owners
>> of the antipodean continent. What is the good of our being a
>> wealthy nation, if the wealth is all in the hands of German
>> Jews?”
>
>>POPE CLEMENT VIII
>
>> “All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their
>> monopolies and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people
>> into a state of poverty, especially the farmers, working class
>> people and the very poor.
>> Then as now Jews have to be reminded intermittently anew that
>> they were enjoying rights in any country since they left
>> Palestine and the Arabian desert, and subsequently their ethical
>> and moral doctrines as well as their deeds rightly deserve to be
>> exposed to criticism in whatever country they happen to live.”
>
>>NESTA WEBSTER, In World Revolution, The Plot against Civilazation, page 163
>
>> “Since the earliest times it is as the exploiter that the Jew has
>> been known amongst his fellow men of all races and creeds.
>> Moreover, he has persistently shown himself ungrateful… The
>> Jews have always formed a rebellious element in every state.”
>
>>FRANZ LISZT, famed composer quoted in Col. E. N. Sanctuary’s Are These
>>Things So?, page 278
>
>> “The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are
>> dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale
>> expulsion, a question which will be one of life or death, good
>> health or chronic disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social
>> fever.”
>
>
>>MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William Hazlet,
>>page 43
>
>> “But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though
>> overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a
>> pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If
>> they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort
>> twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep
>> on guard against them.”
>
>>REV. GORDON WINROD, in his book The Keys to Christian Understanding, pages
>>114 – 115
>
>> “Judaism does not know Jesus Christ. Judaism hates Jesus Christ.
>> When St. Paul was in Judaism, before he was converted to
>> Christianity, he hated Jesus Christ and persecuted Christians and
>> Christianity.”
>> Paul said: “You have heard of my earlier career in Judaism – how
>> furiously I persecuted the Church of God, and made havoc of it;
>> and how in devotion to Judaism I out-stripped many men of may own
>> age among my people, being far more zealous than they for the
>> tradition of my forefathers.” (Gal. 1:13, 14, Weymouth
>> Translation)
>
>>While in Judaism, Paul persecuted Christians because of his intense hatred
>>for Christians and because of his conformity to the tradition of the
>>fathers. This shows that the tradition of teachings of Judaism are filled
>>with hate for Christians.
>>Few people know of this because they do not carefully read their Scriptures
>>and because of the great pains which Jews have take to deceive the
>>Christians. Care has been exerted by the Jews to hide their
>>ECONOMIC-POLITICAL conspiracy for complete world domination UNDER high
>>sounding words that have a “RELIGIOUS” ring in the ears of Christians.
>>The Jews use such “religious” sounding words as “the Jewish faith,” “the
>>Jewish religion,” “Jewish spiritual values,” “Jewish religious doctrines,”
>>and like phrases which deceive and lead the unlearned into total
>>equanimity.
>>Behind this mask of religiosity stands a complete plan for world
>>government, world power, world conquest, a Jewish kingdom of this world,
>>and the destruction of Christianity.
>
>>REV. WILLIAM S. MITCHELL of Philadelphia, quoted in Count
>>Cherep-Spiridovich’s book The Secret World Government, page 194
>
>> “If there is an ingrate in history, it is the Jew. In this land
>> which befriended him he as conspired, plotted, undermined,
>> prostituted and corrupted and (hiding to this hour behind the
>> braver screen of other folks), dares to contrive and scheme the
>> death of every Christian principle which has protected him.”
>
>>ST. JUSTIN, martyr stated in 116 A. D.
>
>> “The Jews were behind all the persecutions of the Christians.
>> They wandered through the country everywhere hating and
>> undermining the Christian faith.”
>
>>ST. JOHN, Gospel of St. John VII:1
>
>> “After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not
>> walk in Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him.”
>
>>M. H. DE HEEKELINGEN, in Israel: Son Passe, Son Avenir
>
>> “The former Rabbi Drach, converted to Catholicism, says that the
>> Talmud contains “a large number of musing, utterly ridiculous
>> extravagancies, most revolting indecencies, and, above all, the
>> most horrible blasphemies against everything which the Christian
>> religion holds most sacred and most dear.”
>> “In the matter of the translation of the Talmud by non-Jews, we
>> have always preferred that of Luzsensky, whose accuracy has been
>> established by the Courts. In 1923, the Public Prosecutor of
>> Hungary caused his Hungarian Talmud to be seized on account of
>> “attack on public morals” and “pornography.” In delivering its
>> verdict, the Court declared ‘INTER ALIA:’
>> “The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzsensky are
>> to be found, without exception, in the Talmud. His translation is
>> correct, in that it renders these passages, which are actually to
>> be found in the original text of the Talmud, after their true
>> meaning.”
>
>> QUINTAS SPETIMUS FLORENS TERTULLIAN (160 – 230 A. D.) Latin
>> Church Father “The Jews formed the breeding ground of all
>> anti-Christian actions.”
>
>>REV. MARTIN LUTHER, sermon at Eisleben, a few days before his death,
>>February, 1546
>
>> “Besides, you also have many Jews living in the country, who do
>> much harm… You should know the Jews blaspheme and violate the
>> name of our Savior day for day… for that reason you, Milords
>> and men of authority, should not tolerate but expel them. They
>> are our public enemies and incessantly blaspheme our Lord Jesus
>> Christ, they call our Blessed Virgin Mary a harlot and her Holy
>> Son a bastard and to us they give the epithet of changelings and
>> abortions.
>> Therefore deal with them harshly as they do nothing but
>> excruciatingly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, trying to rob us
>> of our lives, our health, our honor and belongings.”
>
>>MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 – 1789)
>
>> “Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to
>> remain here without my written permission. I know of no other
>> troublesome pest within the state than this race, which
>> impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending
>> and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises.
>> Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as
>> much as possible.”
>
>>(The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia states that “The Talmud is the real
>>”bible” of the Jews and that it supersedes the Old Testament. This volume
>>has been condemned down through the ages for preaching hatred for Christ
>>and all Christians. Read “THE TALMUD UNMASKED” for the full shocking
>>details.)
>
>>DIDEROT, DENIS. 18th century French scholar. His famous ENCYCLOPEDIE, the
>>bible of the pre-revolutionary French “enlightenment,” has often been
>>complained of by Jewish writers as ‘anti-Semitic.’ Some of Diderot’s other
>>writings are likewise unfriendly:
>
>> “And you, angry and brutish people, vile and vulgar men, slaves
>> worthy of the yoke [Talmudism] which you bear … Go, take back
>> your books and remove yourselves from me. (LA MOISADE)
>> [The Talmud] taught the Jews to steal the goods of Christians, to
>> regard them as savage beasts, to push them over the precipice …
>> to kill them with impunity and to utter every morning the most
>> horrible imprecations against them. (JUIFS)
>
>>NASTA WEBSTER, in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, page 370
>
>> “The Jewish conception of the Jews as the Chosen People who must
>> eventually rule the world forms indeed the basis of Rabbinical
>> Judaism… The Jewish religion now takes its stand on the Talmud
>> rather than on the Bible.”
>
>>F. TROCASE, in Jewish Austria
>
>> “No obstacle discourages them; they persevere throughout the
>> world, throughout the centuries, the unity of their race. The
>> Talmud has given them a powerful organization which modern
>> progress has been unable to change. Deep, ineradicable hatred of
>> everything that is not Jewish stimulates them in war which they
>> wage against Christian Society, which is too divided to be able
>> to fight with the necessary energy.”
>
>>COUNT HELMUTH VON MOLTKE, Prussian general
>
>> “The Jews form a state, and, obeying their own laws, they evade
>> those of their host country.
>> The Jews always consider an oath regarding a Christian not
>> binding. During the Campaign of 1812 the Jews were spies, they
>> were paid by both sides, they betrayed both sides.”
>
>>MOHAMMED, in the Koran
>
>> “Whoever is a friend of a Jew, belong to them, becomes one of
>> them, God cannot tolerate this mean people. The Jews have
>> wandered from divine religion. You must not relent in your work
>> which must show up Jewish deceit.”
>
>>BACON, FRANCIS. 16th century British writer, politician. In his The New
>>Atlantis, he remarked that Jews
>
>> “hate the name of Christ and have a secret and innate rancor
>> against the people among whom they live.”
>
>>He also disapproved of non-Jewish usurers as “Judaizers” who would wear
>>”tawny bonnets” like Jews.
>
>>LUTHER, MARTIN. 16th century German religious reformer.
>
>> “They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only
>> perverted and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to
>> end and without ceasing with their interpretations. And all of
>> the anxious sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is
>> directed to the time when some day they would like to deal with
>> us heathen as they dealt with the heathen in Persia at the time
>> of Esther… On how they love the book of Esther, which so nicely
>> agrees with their bloodthirsty, revengeful and murderous desire
>> and hope. (1)
>> The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful
>> people as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who
>> desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. And
>> the foremost undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is
>> that he should slay and murder the whole world with the sword. As
>> they at first demonstrated against us Christians and would like
>> to do now, if they only could; have also tried it often and have
>> been repeatedly struck on their snouts…
>> Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since
>> no people under the sun always have been, still are, and always
>> will remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their
>> cursed usury. They also find comfort with this: “When the Messiah
>> comes, He shall take all the gold and silver in the world and
>> distribute it among the Jews. (2) Thus, wherever they can direct
>> Scripture to their insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so.
>> Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil, you
>> have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement and enemy than
>> a real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some
>> among them who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But
>> all of them are surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In
>> history, therefore, they are often accused of poisoning wells,
>> stealing children and mutilating them; as in Trent, Weszensee and
>> the like. Of course they deny this. Be it so or not, however, I
>> know full well that the ready will is not lacking with them if
>> they could only transform it into deeds, in secret or openly. (3)
>
>> A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are
>> so at enemity with the Christians above all others; for which
>> they have no reason, since we only do good to them.
>> They live among us in our homes, under our protection, use land
>> and highways, market and streets. Princes and government sit by,
>> snore and have their maws open, let the Jews take from their
>> purse and chest, steal and rob whatever they will. That is, they
>> permit themselves and their subjects to be abused and sucked dry
>> and reduced to beggars with their own money, through the usury of
>> the Jews. For the Jews, as foreigners, certainly should have
>> nothing from us; and what they have certainly must be ours. They
>> do not work, do not earn anything from us, neither do we donate
>> or give it to them. Yet they have our money and goods and are
>> lords in our land where they are supposed to be in exile!
>> If a thief steals ten gulden he must hang; if he robs people on
>> the highway, his head is gone. But a Jew, when he steals ten tons
>> of gold through his usury is dearer than God himself!
>> Do not their TALMUD and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if
>> a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in
>> Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen.
>> Therefore, to steal and rob (as they do with their moneylending)
>> from a heathen, is a divine service… And they are the masters
>> of the world and we are their servants – yea, their cattle!
>> I maintain that in three fables of Aesop there is more wisdom to
>> be found than in all the books of the Talmudists and rabbis and
>> more than ever could come into the hearts of the Jews…
>> Should someone think I am saying too much – I am saying much too
>> little! For I see in [their] writings how they curse us Goyim and
>> wish as all evil in their schools and prayers. They rob us of our
>> money through usury, and wherever they are able, they play us all
>> manner of mean tricks… No heathen has done such things and none
>> would to so except the Devil himself and those whom he possesses
>> – as he possesses the Jews.
>> Burgensis, who was a very learned rabbi among them and by the
>> grace of God became a Christian (which seldom occurs), is much
>> moved that in their schools they so horribly curse us Christians
>> (as Lyra also writes) and from that draws the conclusion that
>> they must not be the people of God.
>> Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain
>> about being captives among us! Jerusalem was destroyed more than
>> 1,400 years ago during that time we Christians have been tortured
>> and persecuted by the Jews in all the world. On top of that, we
>> do not know to this day what Devil brought them into our country.
>> We did not fetch them from Jerusalem!… Yes, we have and hold
>> them captive, as I would like to keep my rheumatism, and all
>> other diseases and misfortunes, who must wait as a poor servant,
>> with money and property and everything I have! I wish they were
>> in Jerusalem with the other Jews and whomsoever they would like
>> to have with them.
>
>> Now what are we going to do with these rejected, condemned Jewish
>> people?… Let us apply the ordinary wisdom of other nations like
>> France, Spain, Bohemia, et al., who made them give an account of
>> what they had stolen through usury, and divided it evenly; but
>> expelled them from their country;. For as heard before, God’s
>> wrath is so great over them that through soft mercy they only
>> become more wicked, through hard treatment, however, only a
>> little better. Therefore, away with them!
>> How much more unbearable it is that we should permit the entire
>> Christendom and all of us to be bought with our own money, be
>> slandered and cursed by the Jews, who on top of all that be made
>> rich and our lords, who laugh us to scorn and are tickled by
>> their audacity!
>> What a joyful affair that would be for the Devil and his angels,
>> and cause them to laugh through their snouts like a sow grinning
>> at her little pigs, but deserving real wrath before God. (From
>> THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES)
>> Maybe mild-hearted and gentle Christians will believe that I am
>> too rigorous and drastic against the poor, afflicted Jews,
>> believing that I ridicule them and treat them with much sarcasm.
>> By my word, I am far too weak to be able to ridicule such a
>> satanic brood. I would fain to do so, but they are far greater
>> adepts at mockery than I and possess a god who is master in this
>> art. It is the Evil One himself.
>> Even with no further evidence than the Old Testament, I would
>> maintain, and no person on earth could alter my opinion, that the
>> Jews as they are today are veritably a mixture of all the
>> depraved and malevolent knaves of the whole world over, who have
>> then been dispersed in all countries, similarly to the Tartars,
>> Gypsies and such folk.”
>
>>WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.
>
>> “They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the
>> enemy’s armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our
>> liberties and the great cause we are engaged in… It is much to
>> be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down
>> as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the
>> happiness of America.”
>
>>This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a “CHIT CHAT AROUND THE
>>TABLE DURING INTERMISSION,” at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention
>>of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth
>>Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.
>
>> “I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
>> young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The
>> menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
>> In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they
>> have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial
>> integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been
>> assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian
>> religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its
>> restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when
>> opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially,
>> as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
>> For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate
>> in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call
>> Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee
>> simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning.
>> Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on
>> vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must
>> subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
>> If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
>> Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here
>> in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land
>> and change our form of government, for which we Americans have
>> shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our
>> liberty.
>> If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our
>> descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them
>> substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing
>> their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews
>> for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
>> Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will
>> nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never
>> be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American’s, and
>> will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard
>> cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this
>> country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this
>> Constitutional Convention.
>
>>STUYVESANT, PETER. 17th century Dutch governor in America.
>
>> “The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here,
>> but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful
>> trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior
>> magistrates, as also to the people having the most affection for
>> you; the Deaconry also fearing that owing to their present
>> indigence they might become a charge in the coming winter, we
>> have, for the benefit of this weak newly developing place and
>> land in general, deemed it useful to require them in a friendly
>> way to depart; praying also most seriously in this connection,
>> for ourselves also for the general community of your worships,
>> that the deceitful race – such hateful enemies and blasphemers of
>> the name of Christ – not be allowed further to infect and trouble
>> this new colony. (Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber of the Dutch
>> West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22, 1654.)
>
>>The Jews whom he attempted to oust merely applied to their fellow Jews in
>>Holland, and the order came back from the Company countermanding the
>>expulsion. (For a similar situation during the Civil War, see ULYSSES
>>GRANT). Among the reasons given by “their worships” for over-ruling their
>>governor, one stands out rather glaringly, in view of the usual Jewish
>>contention that their people were ‘poor and persecuted:’ ” …and also
>>because of the large amount of capital which they have invested in shares
>>of this Company.” (Harry Golden and Martin Rywell, THE JEWS IN AMERICAN
>>HISTORY)
>
>>THE GEORGIA COLONY IN AMERICA. On January 5, 1734, the trustees ordered
>>that three Jews who had been sending correligionists into the colony
>>without authorization “use their endeavors that the said Jews may be
>>removed from the Colony of Georgia, as the best and only satisfaction that
>>they can give to the Trustees for such an indignity offered to Gentlemen
>>acting under His Majesty’s Charter.” (C. Jones, HISTORY OF SAVANNAH)
>
>>JEFFERSON, THOMAS. 18th century American statesman.
>
>> “Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign
>> to the land they live in. ” (D. Boorstin, THE AMERICANS)
>> “Those who labor in the earth are the Chosen People of God, if
>> ever he had a chosen people. ” (NOTES ON VIRGINIA)
>
>>BEAMISH, HENRY H. 20th century British publisher.
>
>> “There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You
>> must face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here.
>> I was here forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open and
>> you were then free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat –
>> that is their reward. ” (New York speech, October 30, 1937)
>
>>HARRINGTON, LORD. 19th century British statesman. Opposed admission of
>>Jewish immigrants to England because:
>
>> “They are the great moneylenders and loan contractors of the
>> world… The consequence is that the nations of the world are
>> groaning under heavy systems of taxation and national debt. They
>> have ever been the greatest enemies of freedom. (Speech in the
>> House of Lords, July 12, 1858)
>
>>WALTER CRICK, British Manufacturer, in the NORTHAMPTON DAILY ECHO, March
>>19. 1925)
>
>> “Jews can destroy by means of finance. Jews are International.
>> Control of credits in this country is not in the hands of the
>> English, but of Jews. It has become the biggest danger the
>> British Empire ever had to face.”
>
>>WORLD FAMOUS MEN of the past accused the Jews of founding Communism. This
>>charge is well founded. The Communist philosopy was drawn up by Karl Marx
>>who descended from a long line of Rabbis. His ideology of anti-Christian
>>and Socialist thought is outlined in the Jewish “TALMUD” which is the
>>”bible” of the Jews. Of the four political groups which overthrew the
>>Christan Czar of Russia two were 100% Jewish. They were the Mensheviks and
>>The Jewish Bund. The other two were the Socialist Revolutionary Party and
>>the Bolsheviks. Both were headed by Jews but had some Gentile members.
>>Today we now know that Lenin was Jewish and all of the leaders of his first
>>government were Jews. They were Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Sverdlow.
>>The wealthiest Jewish banker in the world at that time, Jacob Schiff of
>>Kuhn, Loeb investment bank of New York City, gave Trotsky and Lenin $20
>>million to overthrow the Czar and establish the Soviet tyranny (according
>>to the “NEW YORK JOURNAL-AMERICAN” of February 3, 1949.)
>
>>CHURCHILL, WINSTON. 20th century British politician. In 1920, he wrote a
>>long newspaper article of the recent Bolshevik seizure of Russia. After
>>praising what he called the “national Jews” of Russia, he said:
>
>> “In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise
>> the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this
>> sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy
>> populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of
>> their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of
>> their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual
>> hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new.
>> From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and
>> down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg
>> (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide
>> revolutionary conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and
>> for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested
>> development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has
>> been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs.
>> Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in the
>> tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
>> every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now
>> at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the
>> underworlds of the great cities of Europe and America have
>> gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have
>> become practically the undisputed masters of the enormous empire.
>
>> There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of
>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian
>> Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic
>> Jews. It is certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs
>> all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of
>> the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration
>> and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders… In the Soviet
>> institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astounding.
>> And the prominent if not the principal part in the system of
>> terrorism applied by the extraordinary Commissions for combating
>> Counter Revolution has been take by Jews, and in some notable
>> cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews
>> in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in
>> Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany
>> (especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to
>> prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>> Although in all these countries there are many nonJews every whit
>> as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part
>> played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the
>> population is astonishing. (“Zionism versus Bolshevism: A
>> Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People.” ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY
>> HERALD, London, February 8, 1920.)
>
>>BAKUNYIN, MIKHYL. 19th century Russian revolutionary.
>
>> “Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or
>> less intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews
>> are everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers,
>> politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in
>> short, literary brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with
>> one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and
>> their arses sitting upon the German press. They have grabbed hold
>> of all newspapers, and you can imagine what a nauseating
>> literature is the outcome of it.
>> Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting
>> sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an
>> instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds.
>> This may seem strange. What could there be in common between
>> communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a
>> strong state centralization, and where this exists there must
>> inevitably exist a state central bank, and where this exists,
>> there the parasitic Jewish nation, which speculates upon the
>> labor of the people, will always find the means for its
>> existence…
>> In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime,
>> under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately
>> connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but
>> of political differences as well – this Jewish world is today
>> largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschil. I am sure that, on
>> the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and
>> that on the other hand, women, converted into a uniform mass,
>> would rise, fall asleep, work and live at the beat of the drum;
>> the privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and
>> the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals
>> carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous
>> extension of the international speculations of the national
>> banks… (Pol_mique contres les Juifs)
>
>>This startling piece of prediction is particularly impressive to those who
>>have observed the Soviet scene and notice its strange relationship with
>>capitalist financiers – overwhelmingly Jewish – since the revolution. The
>>line runs from Olof Aschberg, self-described “Bolshevik banker” who ferried
>>to Trotsky the huge sums raised for the revolution by financiers in Europe
>>and America, to Armand Hammer in the 1970s, who has specialized in
>>multimillion-dollar trade concessions with the now supposedly
>>’anti-Semitic’ commissars.
>
>>WILHELM II. German Kaiser.
>
>> “A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like
>> a bad insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can
>> do mischief – even by pogroms, if necessary.
>> The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany
>> too. I was far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I
>> bitterly regret the favors I showed the prominent Jewish
>> bankers.” (CHICAGO TRIBUNE, July 2, 1922)
>
>>CARDINAL MINDSZENTY, of Hungary quoted in B’nai B’rith Messenger, January
>>28, 1949
>
>> “The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews… they demoralize our
>> country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that
>> is torturing Hungary.”
>
>>ADRIEN ARCAND, New York speech, October 30, 1937
>>
>> “When it came to Mexico, the promoters of Communism were the Jews
>> Calles, Hubermann and Aaron Saenz; in Spain we saw Aza±a and
>> Rosenberg; in Hungary we saw Bela Kun, Szamuelly, Agoston and
>> dozen other Jews; in Bavaria, we saw Kurt Eisner and a host of
>> other Jews; in Belgium Marxian Socialism brought to power
>> Vadervelde alias Epstein, and Paul Hymans, two Jews; in France,
>> Marxian Socialism brought forth the Jews Leon Blum (who showed so
>> well his Jewish instincts in his filthy book Du Mariarge),
>> Mandel, Zyromsky, Danain and a whole tribe of them; in Italy we
>> had seen the Jews Nathan and Claudio Treves. Everywhere, Marxism
>> brings Jews on the top – And this is no hazard.”
>
>>HILAIRE BELLOC, renown historian in G. K.’s WEEKLY, February 4, 1937
>
>> “The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in
>> organization and direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As
>> for anyone who does not know that the Bolshevist movement in
>> Russia is Jewish, I can only say that he must be a man who is
>> taken in by the suppression of our deplorable press.”
>
>>A. HOMER, writes in Judaism and Bolshevism, page 7
>
>> “History shows that the Jew has always been, by nature, a
>> revolutionary and that, since the dispersion of his race in the
>> second century, he has either initiated or assisted revolutionary
>> movements in religion, politics and finance, which weakened the
>> power of the States wherein he dwelt. On the other hand, a few
>> far-seeing members of that race have always been at hand to reap
>> financial and political advantage coincident with such
>> upheavals.”
>
>>CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY SCHYLER, American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia, in a
>>military intelligence report dated March 1, 1919, to Lt. Col. Barrows in
>>Vladivostok
>
>> “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States
>> but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning
>> guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type, who
>> have been in the United States and there absorbed every one of
>> the worst phases of our civilization without having the least
>> understanding of what we really mean by liberty.”
>
>>MRS. CLARE SHERIDAN, Traveler, Lecturer in NEW YORK WORLD, December 15,
>>1923
>
>> “The Communists are Jews, and Russia is being entirely
>> administered by them. They are in every government office, bureau
>> and newspaper. They are driving out the Russians and are
>> responsible for the anti-Semitic feeling which is increasing.”
>
>>MAJOR ROBERT H. WILLIAMS, in Fecp and the Minority Machine, page 10
>
>> “B’nai B’rith, the secret Jewish fraternity, was organized in
>> 1843, awakening world Jewish aspirations, or Zionism, and its
>> name, meaning “Sons of the Covenant,” suggests that the 12 men
>> who organized the fraternity aimed at bringing about the
>> fulfillment of “the Covenant,” or the supposed Messianic promise
>> of rulership over all peoples. To rule all peoples, it is first
>> necessary to bring them together in a world federation or world
>> government – which is the avowed aim of both Communists and
>> Zionists.”

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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You
>>can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>>of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

sven88

On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 18:26:31 GMT, igal_pissmaker wrote:

>: In article <[email protected]>,
>: [email protected] (PONIECKA) wrote:
>:Exactly what is your definition of “collaborators” ?
>
>
>Good question. Despite it deserved a separate thread (maybe I will start
>one)let’s for know put it here: Nazi criminals – ones who directly killed,
>maimed,
>gave orders and oversaw the genocide. Collaborators – ones who helped nazi
>machine run smoothly (volunteers) – it maybe railway station managers, or
>auxilarry police who did not do the dirty work, armed vehicle repairmen and so
>on.
>
>Now the intereting question: How we will qualify women who volunteerly were
>slipping with enemy soldiers providing them comphort and moral support ( that
>kind was everywhere – in France, Belgium, Poland as well – how many of them
>find asylum across the ocean with american boys???), instead of giving them
>hard time willingly transmitting STD or something – to make life of occupants
>miserable. I do remember the roumors that one of resistant female fighters in
>belorussia manage to destroy fighting ability of roughly the batallion of
>enemies in that manner. She was considered to be awarded the order of Lenin
>for that, but unfortunately died of very same war struggle consequences.
>I=P
>
>
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On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:52:04 -0600, [email protected]
(Vladimir Svetlov) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Simcha Streltsov) wrote:
>
>
>> in my experience, there always was anti-Russian sentiment in almost all
>> Lithuanian circles – some folks asociated [Russian-speaking] Jews with
>> Russians and did not like us
>
>I sorta knew it would come to that – anti-semitism as misplaced
>russophobia… Of course, if not for well deserved anti-Russian sentiment
>and some astigmatic Lithuaninas, there would be no anti-semitism among the
>Balts. So, in order to avert any future confusion like this one here it
>comes again, back by popular demand
>
>THE COMPLETE IDIOT’S GUIDE TO LOWER RACES, trans. from Aryan
>
> RUSSIANS – relatively large human-like mammals, pale in hue, may even
>reach the size of a real Lithianian. No discernable forehead, squinted
>Tartar eyes and big clumsy hands add to the above portrait of the average
>Russian. Prefers keeping in hordes, which are regularly being pushed out of
>Siberian taiga by something even more disgusting than Russians themselves
>(probably the savage dog-headed wood elves), outward in the direction of
>Europe. Thus every Lithuanian has to learn how to identify these animals in
>the wild and to know how to deal with migrating Russians en route.
>It was said that they can be as large as humans, but never quite so tall as
>their backs are always bent due to their inherent affection to slavery.
>Feed them on your own risk – as long as you feed the Russians they’ll stay
>around and will disturb the peace and beauty of any imaginable local
>(except in Hell!). When fed, Russians fall asleep immediately, unless
>additionally intoxicated by alcohol – in the latter case they become
>restless and start shouting their songs that make the fog horn sound
>musical. Don’t try to help Russians out of your area by giving them
>directions – they have no understanding of geography and only get confused
>by words like “right” and “left”. In some areas giving Russians the wrong
>directions has become a local tradition and a source of endless (albeit
>somewhat rustic) amusement. As you’ve guessed, Russians can sometimes mimic
>the human speech, but have no real understanding of it. Their own
>communication system is no more pleasant to a refined listener than the
>sound of a chainsaw cutting through a live pig. Pay no attention to it, it
>is not meant to deliver any more information than the interior of the milk
>carton.
>It’s easy to handle Russians if you remember that the brute force and
>natural command quality of the superior human race are the only things that
>Russians take a notice of. A five year old child of a Lithuanian mother has
>enough power in him to send a dozen of Russians packing. Raise the voice
>and they run scared, back to the protective shadow of the woods. Edibility
>- edible with Russian Dressing from Kraft Foods.
>
> JEWS – smaller than Russians (next to a Lithuanian a Jew appears like
>nothing but a dwarf) and more dark-skinned. Bid deceiving eyes, huge nose
>pointing downward, long worm-like fingers trembling with greed will shout
>”A JEW!” right at you. Unlike Russians, Jew don’t form hordes; instead they
>live in families where old Jews teach the young one the secrets of lying
>and cheating. Jews are much smarter than Russians (oh, like that’s a big
>achievement) and much harder to get rid off. No one knows where they came
>from or where they will go, when they go away. A Jew would not be a match
>for a fair Lithuanian lad in any sport, but they often get ahead whereever
>their cheating, lying and stealing goes unnoticed. Even Russians don’t like
>the Jews, not through systematic analysis and weighted judgement, like
>Lithuanians, but through some native, druid-like gut feeling of the wild
>wood dwellers. Jews never have pets of their own – unlike Russians, who
>drag around their udly bastards of dogs and cats everywhere they set their
>own dirty feet, Jews detest sharing their quarters with any living being
>other than themselves. Or maybe it’s the living that are keeping away from
>these creepy bloodsuckers. Edibility – don’t bother.
>
>The full text of this very useful and good-humored manual will be available
>in the fall from Mein Kampf Publishing House in Vilnus. It will also cover
>such important subjects as “33 ways to get rid of the Gypsies and their
>eggs”, “Midgets – small people or big bugs?”, “There is a Russian on my
>bus!”, “Odor management for a Jew-slayer”, “I did not know Russians ate my
>newspapers untill I called my psychic”, “What you do not know about the
>Jews may make your daughter marry one of them” and many more.
>
>For entertainment purpose only.
sven88

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>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, “William Hubbard”
>wrote:

>>Strakitch tye golevo!

>Should be shta allah aboukir!!!

>>[email protected] wrote in article
>><[email protected]>…
>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, “Fenian” < [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>[email protected] wrote in article
>><[email protected]>…
>>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, [email protected] (BUSHBADEE) wrote:

>>> >>> >>> Shouldn’t the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the swine???

>>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower than
>>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being conducted
>>> >>> in the Temples.

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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946

>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”

>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!

>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com

>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.

>Please print this form and send to:

>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________

>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.

>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]

>Attention:CHARITIES
>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS

From [email protected] Thu Oct 8 17:26:26 EDT 1998
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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:24:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 21 Apr 1998 14:33:08 GMT, “jjjjjjjjjj” wrote:
>
>>It is a well known fact that at the beginning there were many jewish groups
>>that supported the rise of the Nazis in Germany.
>
>In fact, many JEWS became senior officers in the German Military!!!
>
>
>>This was because the
>>Rabbinical authorities were afraid of Jews who were marrying with Germans
>>and thus diluting the ‘purity’ of the Jewish race. This is a fact that has
>>hardly been touched upon by most Jewish sympathisers and contemporary
>>historians,with the exception of a handful of Jewish intellectuals like
>>Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak.
>>The sad fact is that Zionism shares much more in common with Nazism than
>>most people think:
>>Both Zionists and Nazis believe in the theory of racial/communal supremacy
>>Both are believers in racial/communal exclusivism
>>Both are exclusive ideologies that are intolerant of Others
>>Both are prepared to use violence to achieve their goals and both are
>>prepared to justify that use of violence
>>Both ideologies ultimately cater to the needs of their own specific and
>>exclusive constituencies- thus what happens to others is of little interest
>>to them.

>From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998

Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:

>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
he was a specialist in aerial photography–

>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
book The War Against The Jews.

Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
deportations.”]

____________________________

Or how about this?

Hitler’s Jewish Army

“Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
speaking of World War Two.

“If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”

[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
widely in Germany in the 1930s.

In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
Aryan.”

Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
whose father was a Jew.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

Sources:

William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

———————————-

http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html

Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

Thursday, April 3, 1997

Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces

by Reuters

BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]

See also:

http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html

Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

Dec. 26, 1996

An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
served in Nazi army

by William D. Montalbano
Los Angeles Times

LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
of Holocaust history.

Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

“Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
whole story.]

http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
sven88

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On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:00:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:34:00 -0700, Thomas Lau wrote:
>
>>> > On Fri, 08 May 1998 21:14:26 -0700, Zhongtang Yu
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > >First, the economy in canada is not good. A few weeks ago I read from a
>>> > >Canadian newspaper, and it said Canada was the only country in which the
>>> > >living standard dropped since 1986.
>
>>The living standard in this country has indeed dropped since 1986 but I
>>don’t believe this is only confined to Canada.
>
>>> > >Second, Canada does not have any suiteable job opportunity for new >
>>> >immigrants. A lot of new immigrants do what they would not want to do
>>> > >in their own country, such as driving a cab, working in restaurants.
>
>>In a way one should have expected this before one emigrates from one’s
>>country of origin. But then why would you want to immigrate to this
>>country in the first place? If you have a stable life in your country, and
>>you left it for Canada due to pure economic reasons, you might have made a
>>mistake, unless you reckoned your standard of living would be higher than
>>that in your country of origin no matter what you do in this country.
>
>> > > >And no social wlefare is available for new immigrants. Only after
>>> you > >work for 6 months or more and then you can get a few hundred
>>> CN$/month > >when you lose your job.
>
>>There is social welfare available even if you haven’t got a job. I think
>>you should consult websites of the various provincial govts.
>
>
>Why should immigrants collect welfare?
>They did not contribute to the economy, did they??
>If they are immigrants, they are supposed to have brought wealth –
>usually $500,000 per person with them as entrepreneurs.
>This makes the ineligible for welfare!!!
>
>>> > >Third, I found that there is
>>> much bureaucracy in Canada. Sometimes it > >takes a long time to get a
>>> small thing done. I took me one year to get > >a 1996 tax return right.
>
>>One year to file a tax return? It takes me only two hours :-) Maybe yours
>>is exceedingly complex. Why don’t you get an accountant?
>
>Mind you, there are criminally unqualified bookkeepers in Canada, such
>as some of the so-called CGA’s!!!
>
>
>>> > > >You cannot get satisfied services from commercial institutions like
>>> > >banks do not give you a good service. 50% or more of the time when
>>> you > >finishing checkout in a superstor and saying thank you you to the
>>> > >chashier you won’t get a repsonse. What you see a a long face. > >
>
>>Too bad.. but I don’t think the service is the bad compared to a lot of
>>places in the world. Have you ever visited some bigger cities in, say, the
>>UK or the US?
>
>>> >It’s pretty hard to get further education, at least in Vancouver. New
>>> > >immigrants are treated as foreigners, and they cannot be admitted to
>>> > >graduate scool with A TOEFL core 600 or above because a lot of new >
>>> >immigrants with MS., Ph.D., or MD. degree are forced to go back to >
>>> >school to earn a living (typically CN$15,000 a year, that’s >
>>> >US$10344/year). We have a MD. to do his Ph.D. in our department
>>> because > >he could not find a job for a year.
>
>
>If they are sub-standard in English, the national language, of course
>they are not accepted.
>
>
>>I suggest that you should try other places if you want to further your
>>education. There are so many colleges and universities elsewhere in the
>>country. Why don’t you try going to Ontario or even Nova Scotia, a small
>>province with a population of under 1 million, and yet has got 11
>>universities?
>
>> > > >The medical care is
>>> not free. I am paying CN$75 a month to be able to > >get that “free”
>>> medical care. I remember Sweden has real free medical > >care. > > >If
>>> I had known what I know about Canada today, I would not have made >
>>> >that mistake.
>
>
>Why should it be free?
>It is free if you are a prostitute getting abortions every month or
>so.
>It is free if you are a dope user.
>It is free if you are a disease spreading faggot spreading AIDS!!
>
>For normal people and families, IT IS NOT FREE!!!
>
>>I agree with you that countries in Europe have far more generous social
>>welfare and benefits compared to Canada. They have totally free medical
>>and dental services, free education at all levels, generous housing
>>subsidies, and high replacement rate for unemployment benefits (up to a
>>staggering 90% in Germany). One must not forget that the direct and
>>indirect taxation rates are also very high. In Sweden, the country that
>>you have quoted, the marginal tax rate on income can be as high as 90%.
>>The sales tax is also very high. The UK VAT is at 17.5%, which is already
>>the lowest in the EU.
>
>>Only BC and Alberta charge premia for their medical services. If you don’t
>>like paying them, why don’t you consider moving to other provinces?
>>Eastern Canada is now experiencing an economic boom – probably you will
>>find it easier to find a job or going to university there + there is no
>>medical premium to pay every month!
>
>
>And don’t forget the new taxation on those Chinese immigrants stupid
>enough to stay in Canada.
>The revenuers feel that the Chinese can make up for the more than $700
>MILLIONS that the JEW BRONFMANs did not pay in Income Tax when they
>took their 2,2 billion profits out of Canada!!!
>
>Read the story below!!!
>Last Updated: Tuesday 21 July 1998
> TOP STORIES
>Canada sees sharp drop in Asian investor immigrants
>The Vancouver Sun
>Vancouver Sun
>
>Investor and entrepreneurial immigrants from Hong Kong and Taiwan —
>Canada’s top two sources — have dropped 94 per cent and 78 per cent
>respectively in the past year, according to confidential federal figures.
>
>Vancouver lawyer Mason Loh released the figures Monday as B.C. business
>leaders lobby intensively against the federal government’s controversial foreign
>assets reporting law.
>
>”In this age of globalization, successful business people and investors are
>generally well-informed, decisive and mobile,” Loh said.
>”They see foreign-asset reporting as discriminatory, invasive, inconvenient,
>costly to comply with and oppressive.”
>
>His comments came as Premier Glen Clark prepared to try to persuade the
>federal government to kill the law, which critics say is deterring investment
>and is a factor in the downturn in the B.C. economy.
>Acting press secretary Teresa Wat confirmed the premier plans to call
>National Revenue Minister Herb Dhaliwal to discuss the legislation, which is
>widely opposed by British Columbia business and political leaders.
>”The premier wants to bring to [Dhaliwal’s] attention the impact the overseas
>[reporting] legislation has had on the B.C. economy,” Wat said Monday.
>
>From all countries, the number of investor immigrants fell 38 per cent between
>1996 and 1997. Between the first quarter of 1997 and the first quarter 1998,
>the decline was 72 per cent.
>The figures were obtained by Montreal immigration lawyer Richard Kurland
>under an Access to Information application.
>
>Business leaders’ lobbying efforts against the bill have included bending
>Clark’s ear during a fund-raising dinner cruise last week. More than 100
>supporters, including about 20 prominent Asian business leaders, attended.
>Vancouver realtor David Choi wrote to Clark urging him to express his
>”strongest opposition” to the legislation.
>
>”It is a bad [law] because it fails to achieve the objective of catching tax
>evaders and resources end up being wasted on honest taxpayers,” wrote
>Choi, president of Royal Pacific Real Estate Group.
>”The [federal] government does not know the cost of implementing the
>legislation, nor does it know the cost of compliance on the part of taxpayers,
>nor does it know the economic impact of the legislation.”
>During a charity walkathon Sunday, Choi, the son of philanthropist C.K. Choi,
>collected more than 1,000 signatures on a petition calling on Ottawa to repeal
>the law.
>
>First introduced in 1996, the assets-reporting law caused a furore in the
>business community, particularly in B.C., where two-thirds of wealthy
>immigrants choose to live.
>Under the legislation, passed in 1997, Canadian residents are required to
>disclose all assets held outside the country if their original cost exceeded
>$100,000.
>
>Assets include bank accounts, joint ventures, shares, non-resident trusts,
>real estate holdings and other investments. Exempted are property used
>exclusively in an active business, and residences for personal use.
>Stiff penalties would be imposed for non-compliance.
>
>While Revenue Canada claims the new measures are aimed primarily at
>Canadians who evade taxes by hiding assets in overseas tax havens such as
>the Cayman Islands, many Asians believe they are being targeted.
>Others complained the rules are discriminatory since they don’t apply to
>domestic assets, and fears persist that the regulations may be a precursor to
>a wealth tax.
>
>Critics point out existing tax laws already empower Revenue Canada to
>conduct spot checks and audits of suspected tax evaders.
>
>The new regulations have been blamed for triggering the departure of wealthy
>immigrants while discouraging others from coming here.
>
>Lobby groups urging federal Finance Minister Paul Martin to scrap the
>legislation include the B.C. Business Council, Vancouver Board of Trade and
>Canadian Chamber of Commerce.
>Along with Clark, B.C. Finance Minister Joy MacPhail and her predecessor,
>Andrew Petter, are on record as opposing the reporting regulations, as is
>Opposition leader Gordon Campbell.
>Also opposed is B.C.’s federal caucus, including cabinet ministers David
>Anderson and Raymond Chan; members of Parliament Ted McWhinney,
>Sophia Leung and Lou Sekora, and senators Jack Austin and Ray Perrault.
>
>Martin earlier postponed implementation of the regulations until April 1999 and
>asked Auditor-General Denis Desautels for a review.
>Last month, Desautels submitted his report to the Commons, saying he found
>the law to be justified.
>
>This prompted Hong Kong’s influential English-language newspaper, The
>South China Morning Post, to predict an exodus of wealthy immigrants from
>Canada.
>
>
>
>On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 19:04:02 GMT,
>
>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese, who have returned from
>Canada to Hong Kong, because of the extorion of Revenue Canada??
>
>Rumor is that the number for the past 15 months, is now over 380,000
>families, with all their wealth…
>
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:18:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>For the benefit of those Chinese, who may be considering moving to
>>Canada – BEWARE!!!
>
>>The article below was published last year, and is picked up from Deja
>>News.
>
>>On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:44:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>
>>This is probably true.
>
>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>
>>The same day that the Auditor-General of canada exposed this, the
>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>
>>This is in writing, on page 2 of the t1 general tax return for year
>>1996!!!
>
>
>>The tax is definitely NOT IMAGINARY, and the more than 200,000 former
>>Chinese residents of Canada, who have returned to Hong Kong, are in a
>>position to call the Blankety Blank a LIAR!!!
>
>
>>>This is completely untrue as well you know. There is no income tax on
>>>assets, there is income tax on the income derived from those assets.
>
>>>>The section clearly says ASSETS, not Income, as all the Chinese who
>>>>return to Hong Kong will tell you!!!
>
>>Further, the same section as appeared on the tax returns for 1996
>>year, is now also on the tax returns for 1997!!!
>
>>>Again the feilyu in HK is proven a liar!!!
>
>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>returns.
>
>>>>Further, the requirement to report those assets has been postponed.
>
>>>You are again LYING, since this section has been included in the
>>>>reporting requirements for LAST YEAR’S TAX RETURNS!!!
>
>
>>>Chinese are STILL leaving Canada, to return to HK and SE Asia. Just ask
>>>your friends and neighbours, and even the Chinese newspapers
>>>throughout the region.
>
>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>Income Taxes.
>
>>>>So the assets are overseas, however because they are overseas and they
>>>>have to be shown, the Chinese leave Canada “together with their
>>>>billions” which weren’t in Canada in the first place (remember they
>>>>were overseas). So what are the billions that they take out of Canada?
>>>>Billions? How many billionaires are there in Canada in total? How many
>>>>are Chinese? How many have left Canada?
>
>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in Vancouver,
>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>have also closed down many businesses.
>
>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>country.
>
>
>
>
>
>Part 3 – re Bronfman Jews, in Court
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:23:52 -0600, “Barry S. Marjanovich”
> wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, E. Barry Bruyea wrote:
>
>>> >A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>>> >Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>>> >trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>
>>> >The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>>> >published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>>> >family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>>> >and entertainment empire.
>
>>> >He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>>> >estimated at $700 million in this case.
>
>
>The Calgary Herald
>July 9, 1998
>
>A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>
>”Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply the tax,” lawyer Arne Peltz told
>Justice Francis Muldoon.
>
>”It was not only an oops, they missed the boat altogether,” Peltz said.
>
>”They screwed it up.”
>
>Peltz is representing George Harris, a 53-year-old office manager who took
>on the federal tax collectors after he found out in 1996 that the family
>was allowed to transfer assets of a $2.2-billion trust to the United
>States without paying taxes.
>
>The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>and entertainment empire.
>
>Harris is appealing a Federal Court decision last year saying he didn’t
>have the right to question the Revenue Canada decision because he doesn’t
>have a personal stake in the matter.
>
>But Harris has argued the matter is one of simple fairness for all.
>
>He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>estimated at $700 million in this case.
>
>Peltz argued Wednesday there should be a process to review such decisions,
>adding a similar transfer-trust case in 1985 involving a different party
>required tax to be paid.
>
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:38:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>
>>>Nothing new here.
>>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>>
>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>
>>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>
>>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>> > letters?
>>>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>Brith’s butt.
>>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>
>>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>
>>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>
>>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars.
>>>
>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>
>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>
>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>>
>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>letter just ask.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>>
>>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>>
>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with ‘loan’ grants or
>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>
>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>> >their way into White America’s good nature and generousity.
>>>
>>>>> >NO MORE! The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>
>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>
>>>[email protected]
>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>>
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>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>>
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>>>
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>”http://www.natvan.com”

>>National Vanguard Books
>>P.O. Box 330
>>Hillsboro, WV 24946

>>”No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race.”

>> —-Phillips Brooks
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++

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From [email protected] Thu Oct 8 17:28:49 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:21:50 GMT, [email protected]
trying to get more people angry with thefts by Canada Post wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>
>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>
>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>substantial losses.
>
>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
> Carl E. Kane
> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.
sven88

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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, “Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law”
wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!

By the way, since when is the appellation “attorney at law” legal in
Canada??

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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, “Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law”
Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.
>Please reply in writing to:
On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, “Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law”
wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!

By the way, since when is the appellation “attorney at law” legal in
Canada??

From [email protected] Thu Oct 8 17:34:14 EDT 1998
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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:21:50 GMT, [email protected]
trying to get more people angry with thefts by Canada Post wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>
>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>
>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>substantial losses.
>
>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
> Carl E. Kane
> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>In article <[email protected]>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.
sven88

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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:21:50 GMT, [email protected]
trying to get more people angry with thefts by Canada Post wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.– in a PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow “DISAPPEARED” the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a “security registered” item, with $3000.– worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>”disappeared” last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail “disappear”, whether ‘lost’ or stolen – SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP – Minister for Canada Post – 819-997-5421
> Jonathan Moser is his gofer – same number
>
>Georges Clermont – President of Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
> Sebastian Barnard is his gofer – same number
>
>Stewart Bacon – VP Canada Post – phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray – Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA – CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media – radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, [email protected] (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here’s a very relevant “letter to the editor” published in the June
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>”Canadian Mail Warning
>
>”Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years. Despite the fact that twenty-three Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>”The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto’s Gateway Postal
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada. Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>substantial losses.
>
>”Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses. Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service. Registered mail
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public. If you must
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
> Carl E. Kane
> East Dennis, Massachusetts”
>
>>> Jay Carrigan [email protected]
>
>>>In article <[email protected]t.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made… and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email: [email protected]
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.
sven88

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On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:00:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:34:00 -0700, Thomas Lau wrote:
>
>>> > On Fri, 08 May 1998 21:14:26 -0700, Zhongtang Yu
>>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > >First, the economy in canada is not good. A few weeks ago I read from a
>>> > >Canadian newspaper, and it said Canada was the only country in which the
>>> > >living standard dropped since 1986.
>
>>The living standard in this country has indeed dropped since 1986 but I
>>don’t believe this is only confined to Canada.
>
>>> > >Second, Canada does not have any suiteable job opportunity for new >
>>> >immigrants. A lot of new immigrants do what they would not want to do
>>> > >in their own country, such as driving a cab, working in restaurants.
>
>>In a way one should have expected this before one emigrates from one’s
>>country of origin. But then why would you want to immigrate to this
>>country in the first place? If you have a stable life in your country, and
>>you left it for Canada due to pure economic reasons, you might have made a
>>mistake, unless you reckoned your standard of living would be higher than
>>that in your country of origin no matter what you do in this country.
>
>> > > >And no social wlefare is available for new immigrants. Only after
>>> you > >work for 6 months or more and then you can get a few hundred
>>> CN$/month > >when you lose your job.
>
>>There is social welfare available even if you haven’t got a job. I think
>>you should consult websites of the various provincial govts.
>
>
>Why should immigrants collect welfare?
>They did not contribute to the economy, did they??
>If they are immigrants, they are supposed to have brought wealth –
>usually $500,000 per person with them as entrepreneurs.
>This makes the ineligible for welfare!!!
>
>>> > >Third, I found that there is
>>> much bureaucracy in Canada. Sometimes it > >takes a long time to get a
>>> small thing done. I took me one year to get > >a 1996 tax return right.
>
>>One year to file a tax return? It takes me only two hours :-) Maybe yours
>>is exceedingly complex. Why don’t you get an accountant?
>
>Mind you, there are criminally unqualified bookkeepers in Canada, such
>as some of the so-called CGA’s!!!
>
>
>>> > > >You cannot get satisfied services from commercial institutions like
>>> > >banks do not give you a good service. 50% or more of the time when
>>> you > >finishing checkout in a superstor and saying thank you you to the
>>> > >chashier you won’t get a repsonse. What you see a a long face. > >
>
>>Too bad.. but I don’t think the service is the bad compared to a lot of
>>places in the world. Have you ever visited some bigger cities in, say, the
>>UK or the US?
>
>>> >It’s pretty hard to get further education, at least in Vancouver. New
>>> > >immigrants are treated as foreigners, and they cannot be admitted to
>>> > >graduate scool with A TOEFL core 600 or above because a lot of new >
>>> >immigrants with MS., Ph.D., or MD. degree are forced to go back to >
>>> >school to earn a living (typically CN$15,000 a year, that’s >
>>> >US$10344/year). We have a MD. to do his Ph.D. in our department
>>> because > >he could not find a job for a year.
>
>
>If they are sub-standard in English, the national language, of course
>they are not accepted.
>
>
>>I suggest that you should try other places if you want to further your
>>education. There are so many colleges and universities elsewhere in the
>>country. Why don’t you try going to Ontario or even Nova Scotia, a small
>>province with a population of under 1 million, and yet has got 11
>>universities?
>
>> > > >The medical care is
>>> not free. I am paying CN$75 a month to be able to > >get that “free”
>>> medical care. I remember Sweden has real free medical > >care. > > >If
>>> I had known what I know about Canada today, I would not have made >
>>> >that mistake.
>
>
>Why should it be free?
>It is free if you are a prostitute getting abortions every month or
>so.
>It is free if you are a dope user.
>It is free if you are a disease spreading faggot spreading AIDS!!
>
>For normal people and families, IT IS NOT FREE!!!
>
>>I agree with you that countries in Europe have far more generous social
>>welfare and benefits compared to Canada. They have totally free medical
>>and dental services, free education at all levels, generous housing
>>subsidies, and high replacement rate for unemployment benefits (up to a
>>staggering 90% in Germany). One must not forget that the direct and
>>indirect taxation rates are also very high. In Sweden, the country that
>>you have quoted, the marginal tax rate on income can be as high as 90%.
>>The sales tax is also very high. The UK VAT is at 17.5%, which is already
>>the lowest in the EU.
>
>>Only BC and Alberta charge premia for their medical services. If you don’t
>>like paying them, why don’t you consider moving to other provinces?
>>Eastern Canada is now experiencing an economic boom – probably you will
>>find it easier to find a job or going to university there + there is no
>>medical premium to pay every month!
>
>
>And don’t forget the new taxation on those Chinese immigrants stupid
>enough to stay in Canada.
>The revenuers feel that the Chinese can make up for the more than $700
>MILLIONS that the JEW BRONFMANs did not pay in Income Tax when they
>took their 2,2 billion profits out of Canada!!!
>
>Read the story below!!!
>Last Updated: Tuesday 21 July 1998
> TOP STORIES
>Canada sees sharp drop in Asian investor immigrants
>The Vancouver Sun
>Vancouver Sun
>
>Investor and entrepreneurial immigrants from Hong Kong and Taiwan —
>Canada’s top two sources — have dropped 94 per cent and 78 per cent
>respectively in the past year, according to confidential federal figures.
>
>Vancouver lawyer Mason Loh released the figures Monday as B.C. business
>leaders lobby intensively against the federal government’s controversial foreign
>assets reporting law.
>
>”In this age of globalization, successful business people and investors are
>generally well-informed, decisive and mobile,” Loh said.
>”They see foreign-asset reporting as discriminatory, invasive, inconvenient,
>costly to comply with and oppressive.”
>
>His comments came as Premier Glen Clark prepared to try to persuade the
>federal government to kill the law, which critics say is deterring investment
>and is a factor in the downturn in the B.C. economy.
>Acting press secretary Teresa Wat confirmed the premier plans to call
>National Revenue Minister Herb Dhaliwal to discuss the legislation, which is
>widely opposed by British Columbia business and political leaders.
>”The premier wants to bring to [Dhaliwal’s] attention the impact the overseas
>[reporting] legislation has had on the B.C. economy,” Wat said Monday.
>
>From all countries, the number of investor immigrants fell 38 per cent between
>1996 and 1997. Between the first quarter of 1997 and the first quarter 1998,
>the decline was 72 per cent.
>The figures were obtained by Montreal immigration lawyer Richard Kurland
>under an Access to Information application.
>
>Business leaders’ lobbying efforts against the bill have included bending
>Clark’s ear during a fund-raising dinner cruise last week. More than 100
>supporters, including about 20 prominent Asian business leaders, attended.
>Vancouver realtor David Choi wrote to Clark urging him to express his
>”strongest opposition” to the legislation.
>
>”It is a bad [law] because it fails to achieve the objective of catching tax
>evaders and resources end up being wasted on honest taxpayers,” wrote
>Choi, president of Royal Pacific Real Estate Group.
>”The [federal] government does not know the cost of implementing the
>legislation, nor does it know the cost of compliance on the part of taxpayers,
>nor does it know the economic impact of the legislation.”
>During a charity walkathon Sunday, Choi, the son of philanthropist C.K. Choi,
>collected more than 1,000 signatures on a petition calling on Ottawa to repeal
>the law.
>
>First introduced in 1996, the assets-reporting law caused a furore in the
>business community, particularly in B.C., where two-thirds of wealthy
>immigrants choose to live.
>Under the legislation, passed in 1997, Canadian residents are required to
>disclose all assets held outside the country if their original cost exceeded
>$100,000.
>
>Assets include bank accounts, joint ventures, shares, non-resident trusts,
>real estate holdings and other investments. Exempted are property used
>exclusively in an active business, and residences for personal use.
>Stiff penalties would be imposed for non-compliance.
>
>While Revenue Canada claims the new measures are aimed primarily at
>Canadians who evade taxes by hiding assets in overseas tax havens such as
>the Cayman Islands, many Asians believe they are being targeted.
>Others complained the rules are discriminatory since they don’t apply to
>domestic assets, and fears persist that the regulations may be a precursor to
>a wealth tax.
>
>Critics point out existing tax laws already empower Revenue Canada to
>conduct spot checks and audits of suspected tax evaders.
>
>The new regulations have been blamed for triggering the departure of wealthy
>immigrants while discouraging others from coming here.
>
>Lobby groups urging federal Finance Minister Paul Martin to scrap the
>legislation include the B.C. Business Council, Vancouver Board of Trade and
>Canadian Chamber of Commerce.
>Along with Clark, B.C. Finance Minister Joy MacPhail and her predecessor,
>Andrew Petter, are on record as opposing the reporting regulations, as is
>Opposition leader Gordon Campbell.
>Also opposed is B.C.’s federal caucus, including cabinet ministers David
>Anderson and Raymond Chan; members of Parliament Ted McWhinney,
>Sophia Leung and Lou Sekora, and senators Jack Austin and Ray Perrault.
>
>Martin earlier postponed implementation of the regulations until April 1999 and
>asked Auditor-General Denis Desautels for a review.
>Last month, Desautels submitted his report to the Commons, saying he found
>the law to be justified.
>
>This prompted Hong Kong’s influential English-language newspaper, The
>South China Morning Post, to predict an exodus of wealthy immigrants from
>Canada.
>
>
>
>On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 19:04:02 GMT,
>
>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese, who have returned from
>Canada to Hong Kong, because of the extorion of Revenue Canada??
>
>Rumor is that the number for the past 15 months, is now over 380,000
>families, with all their wealth…
>
>>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:18:43 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>For the benefit of those Chinese, who may be considering moving to
>>Canada – BEWARE!!!
>
>>The article below was published last year, and is picked up from Deja
>>News.
>
>>On Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:44:51 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>
>>This is probably true.
>
>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>
>>The same day that the Auditor-General of canada exposed this, the
>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>
>>This is in writing, on page 2 of the t1 general tax return for year
>>1996!!!
>
>
>>The tax is definitely NOT IMAGINARY, and the more than 200,000 former
>>Chinese residents of Canada, who have returned to Hong Kong, are in a
>>position to call the Blankety Blank a LIAR!!!
>
>
>>>This is completely untrue as well you know. There is no income tax on
>>>assets, there is income tax on the income derived from those assets.
>
>>>>The section clearly says ASSETS, not Income, as all the Chinese who
>>>>return to Hong Kong will tell you!!!
>
>>Further, the same section as appeared on the tax returns for 1996
>>year, is now also on the tax returns for 1997!!!
>
>>>Again the feilyu in HK is proven a liar!!!
>
>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>returns.
>
>>>>Further, the requirement to report those assets has been postponed.
>
>>>You are again LYING, since this section has been included in the
>>>>reporting requirements for LAST YEAR’S TAX RETURNS!!!
>
>
>>>Chinese are STILL leaving Canada, to return to HK and SE Asia. Just ask
>>>your friends and neighbours, and even the Chinese newspapers
>>>throughout the region.
>
>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>Income Taxes.
>
>>>>So the assets are overseas, however because they are overseas and they
>>>>have to be shown, the Chinese leave Canada “together with their
>>>>billions” which weren’t in Canada in the first place (remember they
>>>>were overseas). So what are the billions that they take out of Canada?
>>>>Billions? How many billionaires are there in Canada in total? How many
>>>>are Chinese? How many have left Canada?
>
>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in Vancouver,
>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>have also closed down many businesses.
>
>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>country.
>
>
>
>
>
>Part 3 – re Bronfman Jews, in Court
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:23:52 -0600, “Barry S. Marjanovich”
> wrote:
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, E. Barry Bruyea wrote:
>
>>> >A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>>> >Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>>> >trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>
>>> >The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>>> >published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>>> >family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>>> >and entertainment empire.
>
>>> >He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>>> >estimated at $700 million in this case.
>
>
>The Calgary Herald
>July 9, 1998
>
>A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>
>”Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply the tax,” lawyer Arne Peltz told
>Justice Francis Muldoon.
>
>”It was not only an oops, they missed the boat altogether,” Peltz said.
>
>”They screwed it up.”
>
>Peltz is representing George Harris, a 53-year-old office manager who took
>on the federal tax collectors after he found out in 1996 that the family
>was allowed to transfer assets of a $2.2-billion trust to the United
>States without paying taxes.
>
>The family members haven’t been named under confidentiality rules, but
>published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>and entertainment empire.
>
>Harris is appealing a Federal Court decision last year saying he didn’t
>have the right to question the Revenue Canada decision because he doesn’t
>have a personal stake in the matter.
>
>But Harris has argued the matter is one of simple fairness for all.
>
>He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>estimated at $700 million in this case.
>
>Peltz argued Wednesday there should be a process to review such decisions,
>adding a similar transfer-trust case in 1985 involving a different party
>required tax to be paid.
>
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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You
>>can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>>of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

sven88

On 8 Oct 1998 00:53:44 GMT, [email protected] (PONIECKA) wrote:
>Igal Pissmaker wrote:

>>My dear friend, it is very easy to find distinguish between “volunteers” and
>>those who forced to work the Nazis.

>First of all, as your “dear friend,” I would like to ask you to focus on the
>questions you are being asked. Try to answer them or at least admit you don’t
>know. Do not evade them. Do not transmute them into something entirely
>different.

>Secondly, it is NOT very easy to identify true collaborators. I’ve already
>mentioned the difficulty authorities had even with copious amounts of Nazi
>documentation when investigating displaced persons or refugees after the war.
>Part of the issue of emigration to host countries revolved around the fear that
>Nazi
>collaborators would be allowed to enter.
>
>However, if collaborators and criminals did arrive in the USA and Canada, it
>was with the knowledge and assistance of the governments. Most of what I’ve
>read concerns German scientists, Ukrainians, Latvians, Lithuanians–few Poles,
>if any.
>
>So who is the target of your thread?

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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT, wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura wrote:
…fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews…

Here is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew – Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some ‘controversy’
about negotiations he undertook for ‘the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment’, but that he was ‘fully rehabilitated’
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that – indeed because of that – I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler’s gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz – the
number is still on my arm – I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers…Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, ‘I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.’

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine…(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the ‘Eichmann Confessions’
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere…In obedience to Himmler’s directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest…Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation – and even keep order in the collection camps –
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner’s main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel…

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal ‘You
>>can
>>have the others’, he would say, ‘but let me have this group here’. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews…That was the
>>’gentleman’s agreement’ I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to ‘the purchase
>>of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment’.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>> The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel’s District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary’s ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local ‘rescue work’.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations…these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner’s Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary – their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi’s patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct – his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner’s collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner’s answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>’new
>>line’ of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the ‘new line’
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>’rescue’ work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner’s involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner’s
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler”.
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher’s behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner’s affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner’s knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities – all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth –
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner’s testimony, ‘I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher’.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner’s
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements.”
>>
>>Judge Halevi’s verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation – that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>>
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha’am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi’ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse – as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose.” (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed – an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions.”
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner’s collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the
>>name
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court –
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being ‘fully
>>rehabilitated’.
>>
>>
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner’s actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this ‘collaboration’.
>>
>>Kastner’s actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>….What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey…Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, ‘The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree’. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, ‘This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone’ (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, ‘The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme’…From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>….And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner’s efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale…And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell – this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his – or rather, his omission –
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?…As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view…
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger….
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war.” (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner’s contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did – concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist ‘leaders’ boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others….
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion….’Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few –
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.’
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. –
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme ‘no’ the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith…
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing…
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn’t want to have a great revolt – nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source – from Eichmann himself – And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with – or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner…He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes…I couldn’t
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion.”(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg’s judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a ‘good’ SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner’s associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of ‘prominents’ who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is ‘now dead’. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein – immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement ‘rehabilitating’ him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another ‘fantastic
>>allegation’ no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).

sven88

On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 18:26:31 GMT, igal_pissmaker wrote:

>: In article <[email protected]>,
>: [email protected] (PONIECKA) wrote:
>:Exactly what is your definition of “collaborators” ?
>
>
>Good question. Despite it deserved a separate thread (maybe I will start
>one)let’s for know put it here: Nazi criminals – ones who directly killed,
>maimed,
>gave orders and oversaw the genocide. Collaborators – ones who helped nazi
>machine run smoothly (volunteers) – it maybe railway station managers, or
>auxilarry police who did not do the dirty work, armed vehicle repairmen and so
>on.
>
>Now the intereting question: How we will qualify women who volunteerly were
>slipping with enemy soldiers providing them comphort and moral support ( that
>kind was everywhere – in France, Belgium, Poland as well – how many of them
>find asylum across the ocean with american boys???), instead of giving them
>hard time willingly transmitting STD or something – to make life of occupants
>miserable. I do remember the roumors that one of resistant female fighters in
>belorussia manage to destroy fighting ability of roughly the batallion of
>enemies in that manner. She was considered to be awarded the order of Lenin
>for that, but unfortunately died of very same war struggle consequences.
>I=P
>
>
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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:24:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On 21 Apr 1998 14:33:08 GMT, “jjjjjjjjjj” wrote:
>
>>It is a well known fact that at the beginning there were many jewish groups
>>that supported the rise of the Nazis in Germany.
>
>In fact, many JEWS became senior officers in the German Military!!!
>
>
>>This was because the
>>Rabbinical authorities were afraid of Jews who were marrying with Germans
>>and thus diluting the ‘purity’ of the Jewish race. This is a fact that has
>>hardly been touched upon by most Jewish sympathisers and contemporary
>>historians,with the exception of a handful of Jewish intellectuals like
>>Noam Chomsky and Israel Shahak.
>>The sad fact is that Zionism shares much more in common with Nazism than
>>most people think:
>>Both Zionists and Nazis believe in the theory of racial/communal supremacy
>>Both are believers in racial/communal exclusivism
>>Both are exclusive ideologies that are intolerant of Others
>>Both are prepared to use violence to achieve their goals and both are
>>prepared to justify that use of violence
>>Both ideologies ultimately cater to the needs of their own specific and
>>exclusive constituencies- thus what happens to others is of little interest
>>to them.

>From [email protected] Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998

Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, [email protected] (BillBrtn) wrote:

>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
make a living–and live–despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
he was a specialist in aerial photography–

>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz’s
book The War Against The Jews.

Lucy S. Dawidowicz’s book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

* April 7, 1933 Hitler’s letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
the “Jewish Problem.” “Officials who were already employed as civil
servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
sons were killed in action in the World War.” (pg 77)
* [“Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
deportations.”]

____________________________

Or how about this?

Hitler’s Jewish Army

“Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
speaking of World War Two.

“If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing
what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field
marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.”

[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated
widely in Germany in the 1930s.

In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew and who is an
Aryan.”

Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
whose father was a Jew.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).

So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

Sources:

William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

Article ” Hitler’s Jewish Army” from:
http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

———————————-

http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html

Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

Thursday, April 3, 1997

Hitler let `Aryanized’ Jews serve in Nazi armed forces

by Reuters

BONN – Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
yesterday…… [Click the above link to see all of the story.]

See also:

http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html

Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

Dec. 26, 1996

An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
served in Nazi army

by William D. Montalbano
Los Angeles Times

LONDON – Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man’s land
of Holocaust history.

Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
II – during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

“Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
called `full Jews’ served in the military with Adolf Hitler’s
knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
exterminated their families,” Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
whole story.]

http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
sven88

From [email protected] Thu Oct 8 17:38:12 EDT 1998
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>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, “William Hubbard”
>wrote:

>>Strakitch tye golevo!

>Should be shta allah aboukir!!!

>>[email protected] wrote in article
>><[email protected]>…
>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, “Fenian” < [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>[email protected] wrote in article
>><[email protected]>…
>>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, [email protected] (BUSHBADEE) wrote:

>>> >>> >>> Shouldn’t the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the swine???

>>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower than
>>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being conducted
>>> >>> in the Temples.

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On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 19:26:02 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 11:50:30 -0600, jacob wrote:
>>The Jewish Salami wrote:
>>> jacob wrote:
>>> >The Jewish Salami wrote:

>>> >> As far as Poland is concerned, they deserved what the Russians
>>> >> gave them for their filty, lousy treatment of the Jews. I do not
>>> >> regret the Katyn massacre or the 69 Days that Marshal Zhukov waited
>>> >> before taking Warsaw. The Poles needed a good weeding for their
>>> >> perfidy. Imagine, the Poles murdered those Jews who survived the
>>> >> death camps and returned to claim their possessions, stolen by the
>>> >> Poles who had denounced them! Poland will pay for this for a long
>>> >> time to come. It is not forgotten …
>
>>> >Is this a insane Jew or a non-Jewish provocateur?
>
>>> >J.B.
>
>>> The Jewish Salami
>
>>What you write is only partly true. This is false to generalize. You can
>>not blame all the Poles for the sin of some of them. If you do it, you
>>do the same wrong thing what the rasists are doing. They blame all the
>>Jews for the crimes, that some of them did.
>
>
>Since it is well documented historical fact that worldwide communism
>was started and maintained by JEWS, why are you now complaining if the
>Polish people, enslaved by the Russian JEWS, now dislike the JEWS???
>
>After all, it was a Polish JEW, Dzerzhinski who established the Secret
>Police for the Russian JEW -led Soviet Union!!!
>
>And it was Russian JEWs, running the Soviet Union, who enslaved Poland
>both during WWII, and of course afterwards under their occupation.
>
>
>>Second: who give you the right to speeck in the name of all Jews. Many
>>of them, that have been communists are today non-communist after they
>>convince oneself, that the communist ideology is a false one.
>>Jacob
>
>Read the list of JEW communists, and weep for the Poles murdered at
>KATYN!!!

Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
“Russian
Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
and lead revolutionary movement.

First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
Karl Marx,
was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.

While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
will
concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
that
passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
Archives:

State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet
government,
anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”

State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July
5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government
in
each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type.”

A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports
on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were
384
`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
to
Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
Government.”

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
foreign
affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
and
Moisei Uritsky.

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
little
for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”

The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
“Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”

In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
Propaganda
Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate, 65th Congress:

“We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
side
of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
that
there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
these
men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
in
this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
one
of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
northern
community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
Soviet
regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
Gordon.

I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
on
the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
because
there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
Petrograd,
but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
agitators
were Jews.

I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
that
was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
did not take kindly to it.”

Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
“anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

“The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

“There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London
April,
4, 1919)

“Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin,
Rabbi
S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

“In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:

“National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs
characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death
penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
virtually untouched.

It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80
percent
of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
American professor of Russian history. . . ”

Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
were
murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
Communist bosses.

Regards,
Roger Hughes

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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
> wrote:

>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.

>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>wrote:

>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>phone or E-mail.

>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>questions.

>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.

>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!

>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??

>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??

>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>the Holohoax will also respond.

>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )wrote:
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote

>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>> will not answer the critical questions.

>>Nothing new here.

>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>> it is NOT!!!

>>Definitely not a charity.

Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
Canada!!!

They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384

Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities

An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
Investigations Revenue Canada at:
telephone # 204-983-1829

>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>

>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>> answer??

>> Is it really an international tax fraud?

>> What have the I.R.S. to say??

>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.

>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>> who can be reached at:
http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html

>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.

>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>> [email protected], or
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca

>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829

>> They are waiting for your complaints

> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:

> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >Subject: to repeat the questions

> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.

> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?

>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.

> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the letters?

>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.

> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?

> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?

>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith’s butt.

>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay

>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.

> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?

> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?

>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.

> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
> > solicit tax free contributions?

>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars.

> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.

> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
> >OyVey???

>>It’s a reasonable assumption.

> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.

>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:

>>Check this out!

>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>letter just ask.

> >Nizkor Funding
> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”

> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:

>> The League is working closely
>>with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>incidents directly to the National Office.”

>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.

> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
> >promote Jewish interests.

>>That is putting it “lightly”.

> >If any of them are White Americans then they
> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.

>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.

>>[email protected]
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>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!

>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.

All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.

>Please print this form and send to:

>The Nizkor Project
>c/o
>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>15 Hove Street
>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

>Name:________________________________________
>Street Address:________________________________________________
>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>Amount Enclosed: $___________

>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>cheque’s memo section.

>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
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On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:42:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>From Deja News, some more interesting points, worth further
>discussion, regarding the Christkillers, and the comments of Jesus
>Christ.
>
>
>On Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:53:38 -0700, Clancy
> wrote:
>
>>JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44
>
>> “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye
>> will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in
>> the truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a
>> lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of
>> it. – then answered the Jews – ”
>
>>(which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)
>
>
>> “The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how
>> numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power
>> they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals
>> and deceivers.”
>
>>SENECA (Lucius Annaeus Seneca). First century Roman philosopher.
>
>> “The customs of that most criminal nation have gained such
>> strength that they have now been received in all lands. The
>> conquered have giveN laws to the conquerors.” (De Superstitione)
>
>>DIO CASSIUS. Second century Roman historian. Describing the savage Jewish
>>uprising against the Roman empire that has been acknowledged as the turning
>>point downward in the course of that great state-form:
>
>> “The Jews were destroying both Greeks and Romans. They ate the
>> flesh of their victims, made belts for themselves out of their
>> entrails, and daubed themselves with their blood… In all,
>> 220,000 men perished in Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus, and for
>> this reason no Jew may set foot in Cyprus today.” (Roman History)
>
>>DIODORUS SICULUS. First century Greek historian.Observed that Jews treated
>>other people as enemies and inferiors.
>
>> “Usury” is the practice of lending money at excessive interest
>> rates. This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for
>> Gentiles. It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!
>
>>BERNARDINO OF FELTRO. 15th century Italian priest. A mild man who extolled
>>patience and charity in normal circumstances, he described himself as a
>>”barking dog” when dealing with Jews:
>
>> “Jewish usurers bleed the poor to death and grow fat on their
>> substance, and I who live on alms, who feed on the bread of the
>> poor, shall I then be mute before outraged charity? Dogs bark to
>> protect those who feed them, and I, who am feed by the poor,
>> shall I see them robbed of what belongs to them and keep silent?”
>> (E. Flornoy, Le Bienbeureux Bernardin the Feltre)
>
>>AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his “On the
>>Governance of the Jews,” he wrote:
>
>> “The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained
>> from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to
>> worked so that they could earn their living instead of doing
>> nothing but becoming avaricious.”
>
>>HILAIARE BELLOC, in the book THE JEWS, page 9
>
>> “There is already something like a Jewish monopoly in high
>> finance … There is the same element of Jewish monopoly in the
>> silver trade, and in the control of various other metals, notably
>> lead, nickel, quicksilver. What is most disquieting of all, this
>> tendency to monopoly is spreading like a disease.”
>
>>H. H. BEAMISH, in New York Speech, October 30, 1937
>
>> “The Boer War occurred 37 years ago. Boer means farmer. Many
>> criticized a great power like Britain for trying to wipe out the
>> Boers. Upon making inquiry, I found all the gold and diamond
>> mines of South Africa were owned by Jews; that Rothschild
>> controlled gold; Samuels controlled silver, Baum controlled other
>> mining, and Moses controlled base metals. Anything these people
>> touch they inevitably pollute.”
>
>>W. HUGHES, Premier of Australia, Saturday Evening Post, June 19, 1919
>
>> “The Montefiores have taken Australia for their own, and there is
>> not a gold field or a sheep run from Tasmania to New South Wales
>> that does not pay them a heavy tribute. They are the real owners
>> of the antipodean continent. What is the good of our being a
>> wealthy nation, if the wealth is all in the hands of German
>> Jews?”
>
>>POPE CLEMENT VIII
>
>> “All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their
>> monopolies and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people
>> into a state of poverty, especially the farmers, working class
>> people and the very poor.
>> Then as now Jews have to be reminded intermittently anew that
>> they were enjoying rights in any country since they left
>> Palestine and the Arabian desert, and subsequently their ethical
>> and moral doctrines as well as their deeds rightly deserve to be
>> exposed to criticism in whatever country they happen to live.”
>
>>NESTA WEBSTER, In World Revolution, The Plot against Civilazation, page 163
>
>> “Since the earliest times it is as the exploiter that the Jew has
>> been known amongst his fellow men of all races and creeds.
>> Moreover, he has persistently shown himself ungrateful… The
>> Jews have always formed a rebellious element in every state.”
>
>>FRANZ LISZT, famed composer quoted in Col. E. N. Sanctuary’s Are These
>>Things So?, page 278
>
>> “The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are
>> dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale
>> expulsion, a question which will be one of life or death, good
>> health or chronic disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social
>> fever.”
>
>
>>MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William Hazlet,
>>page 43
>
>> “But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though
>> overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a
>> pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If
>> they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort
>> twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep
>> on guard against them.”
>
>>REV. GORDON WINROD, in his book The Keys to Christian Understanding, pages
>>114 – 115
>
>> “Judaism does not know Jesus Christ. Judaism hates Jesus Christ.
>> When St. Paul was in Judaism, before he was converted to
>> Christianity, he hated Jesus Christ and persecuted Christians and
>> Christianity.”
>> Paul said: “You have heard of my earlier career in Judaism – how
>> furiously I persecuted the Church of God, and made havoc of it;
>> and how in devotion to Judaism I out-stripped many men of may own
>> age among my people, being far more zealous than they for the
>> tradition of my forefathers.” (Gal. 1:13, 14, Weymouth
>> Translation)
>
>>While in Judaism, Paul persecuted Christians because of his intense hatred
>>for Christians and because of his conformity to the tradition of the
>>fathers. This shows that the tradition of teachings of Judaism are filled
>>with hate for Christians.
>>Few people know of this because they do not carefully read their Scriptures
>>and because of the great pains which Jews have take to deceive the
>>Christians. Care has been exerted by the Jews to hide their
>>ECONOMIC-POLITICAL conspiracy for complete world domination UNDER high
>>sounding words that have a “RELIGIOUS” ring in the ears of Christians.
>>The Jews use such “religious” sounding words as “the Jewish faith,” “the
>>Jewish religion,” “Jewish spiritual values,” “Jewish religious doctrines,”
>>and like phrases which deceive and lead the unlearned into total
>>equanimity.
>>Behind this mask of religiosity stands a complete plan for world
>>government, world power, world conquest, a Jewish kingdom of this world,
>>and the destruction of Christianity.
>
>>REV. WILLIAM S. MITCHELL of Philadelphia, quoted in Count
>>Cherep-Spiridovich’s book The Secret World Government, page 194
>
>> “If there is an ingrate in history, it is the Jew. In this land
>> which befriended him he as conspired, plotted, undermined,
>> prostituted and corrupted and (hiding to this hour behind the
>> braver screen of other folks), dares to contrive and scheme the
>> death of every Christian principle which has protected him.”
>
>>ST. JUSTIN, martyr stated in 116 A. D.
>
>> “The Jews were behind all the persecutions of the Christians.
>> They wandered through the country everywhere hating and
>> undermining the Christian faith.”
>
>>ST. JOHN, Gospel of St. John VII:1
>
>> “After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not
>> walk in Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him.”
>
>>M. H. DE HEEKELINGEN, in Israel: Son Passe, Son Avenir
>
>> “The former Rabbi Drach, converted to Catholicism, says that the
>> Talmud contains “a large number of musing, utterly ridiculous
>> extravagancies, most revolting indecencies, and, above all, the
>> most horrible blasphemies against everything which the Christian
>> religion holds most sacred and most dear.”
>> “In the matter of the translation of the Talmud by non-Jews, we
>> have always preferred that of Luzsensky, whose accuracy has been
>> established by the Courts. In 1923, the Public Prosecutor of
>> Hungary caused his Hungarian Talmud to be seized on account of
>> “attack on public morals” and “pornography.” In delivering its
>> verdict, the Court declared ‘INTER ALIA:’
>> “The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzsensky are
>> to be found, without exception, in the Talmud. His translation is
>> correct, in that it renders these passages, which are actually to
>> be found in the original text of the Talmud, after their true
>> meaning.”
>
>> QUINTAS SPETIMUS FLORENS TERTULLIAN (160 – 230 A. D.) Latin
>> Church Father “The Jews formed the breeding ground of all
>> anti-Christian actions.”
>
>>REV. MARTIN LUTHER, sermon at Eisleben, a few days before his death,
>>February, 1546
>
>> “Besides, you also have many Jews living in the country, who do
>> much harm… You should know the Jews blaspheme and violate the
>> name of our Savior day for day… for that reason you, Milords
>> and men of authority, should not tolerate but expel them. They
>> are our public enemies and incessantly blaspheme our Lord Jesus
>> Christ, they call our Blessed Virgin Mary a harlot and her Holy
>> Son a bastard and to us they give the epithet of changelings and
>> abortions.
>> Therefore deal with them harshly as they do nothing but
>> excruciatingly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, trying to rob us
>> of our lives, our health, our honor and belongings.”
>
>>MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 – 1789)
>
>> “Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to
>> remain here without my written permission. I know of no other
>> troublesome pest within the state than this race, which
>> impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending
>> and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises.
>> Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as
>> much as possible.”
>
>>(The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia states that “The Talmud is the real
>>”bible” of the Jews and that it supersedes the Old Testament. This volume
>>has been condemned down through the ages for preaching hatred for Christ
>>and all Christians. Read “THE TALMUD UNMASKED” for the full shocking
>>details.)
>
>>DIDEROT, DENIS. 18th century French scholar. His famous ENCYCLOPEDIE, the
>>bible of the pre-revolutionary French “enlightenment,” has often been
>>complained of by Jewish writers as ‘anti-Semitic.’ Some of Diderot’s other
>>writings are likewise unfriendly:
>
>> “And you, angry and brutish people, vile and vulgar men, slaves
>> worthy of the yoke [Talmudism] which you bear … Go, take back
>> your books and remove yourselves from me. (LA MOISADE)
>> [The Talmud] taught the Jews to steal the goods of Christians, to
>> regard them as savage beasts, to push them over the precipice …
>> to kill them with impunity and to utter every morning the most
>> horrible imprecations against them. (JUIFS)
>
>>NASTA WEBSTER, in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, page 370
>
>> “The Jewish conception of the Jews as the Chosen People who must
>> eventually rule the world forms indeed the basis of Rabbinical
>> Judaism… The Jewish religion now takes its stand on the Talmud
>> rather than on the Bible.”
>
>>F. TROCASE, in Jewish Austria
>
>> “No obstacle discourages them; they persevere throughout the
>> world, throughout the centuries, the unity of their race. The
>> Talmud has given them a powerful organization which modern
>> progress has been unable to change. Deep, ineradicable hatred of
>> everything that is not Jewish stimulates them in war which they
>> wage against Christian Society, which is too divided to be able
>> to fight with the necessary energy.”
>
>>COUNT HELMUTH VON MOLTKE, Prussian general
>
>> “The Jews form a state, and, obeying their own laws, they evade
>> those of their host country.
>> The Jews always consider an oath regarding a Christian not
>> binding. During the Campaign of 1812 the Jews were spies, they
>> were paid by both sides, they betrayed both sides.”
>
>>MOHAMMED, in the Koran
>
>> “Whoever is a friend of a Jew, belong to them, becomes one of
>> them, God cannot tolerate this mean people. The Jews have
>> wandered from divine religion. You must not relent in your work
>> which must show up Jewish deceit.”
>
>>BACON, FRANCIS. 16th century British writer, politician. In his The New
>>Atlantis, he remarked that Jews
>
>> “hate the name of Christ and have a secret and innate rancor
>> against the people among whom they live.”
>
>>He also disapproved of non-Jewish usurers as “Judaizers” who would wear
>>”tawny bonnets” like Jews.
>
>>LUTHER, MARTIN. 16th century German religious reformer.
>
>> “They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only
>> perverted and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to
>> end and without ceasing with their interpretations. And all of
>> the anxious sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is
>> directed to the time when some day they would like to deal with
>> us heathen as they dealt with the heathen in Persia at the time
>> of Esther… On how they love the book of Esther, which so nicely
>> agrees with their bloodthirsty, revengeful and murderous desire
>> and hope. (1)
>> The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful
>> people as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who
>> desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. And
>> the foremost undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is
>> that he should slay and murder the whole world with the sword. As
>> they at first demonstrated against us Christians and would like
>> to do now, if they only could; have also tried it often and have
>> been repeatedly struck on their snouts…
>> Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since
>> no people under the sun always have been, still are, and always
>> will remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their
>> cursed usury. They also find comfort with this: “When the Messiah
>> comes, He shall take all the gold and silver in the world and
>> distribute it among the Jews. (2) Thus, wherever they can direct
>> Scripture to their insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so.
>> Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil, you
>> have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement and enemy than
>> a real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some
>> among them who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But
>> all of them are surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In
>> history, therefore, they are often accused of poisoning wells,
>> stealing children and mutilating them; as in Trent, Weszensee and
>> the like. Of course they deny this. Be it so or not, however, I
>> know full well that the ready will is not lacking with them if
>> they could only transform it into deeds, in secret or openly. (3)
>
>> A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are
>> so at enemity with the Christians above all others; for which
>> they have no reason, since we only do good to them.
>> They live among us in our homes, under our protection, use land
>> and highways, market and streets. Princes and government sit by,
>> snore and have their maws open, let the Jews take from their
>> purse and chest, steal and rob whatever they will. That is, they
>> permit themselves and their subjects to be abused and sucked dry
>> and reduced to beggars with their own money, through the usury of
>> the Jews. For the Jews, as foreigners, certainly should have
>> nothing from us; and what they have certainly must be ours. They
>> do not work, do not earn anything from us, neither do we donate
>> or give it to them. Yet they have our money and goods and are
>> lords in our land where they are supposed to be in exile!
>> If a thief steals ten gulden he must hang; if he robs people on
>> the highway, his head is gone. But a Jew, when he steals ten tons
>> of gold through his usury is dearer than God himself!
>> Do not their TALMUD and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if
>> a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in
>> Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen.
>> Therefore, to steal and rob (as they do with their moneylending)
>> from a heathen, is a divine service… And they are the masters
>> of the world and we are their servants – yea, their cattle!
>> I maintain that in three fables of Aesop there is more wisdom to
>> be found than in all the books of the Talmudists and rabbis and
>> more than ever could come into the hearts of the Jews…
>> Should someone think I am saying too much – I am saying much too
>> little! For I see in [their] writings how they curse us Goyim and
>> wish as all evil in their schools and prayers. They rob us of our
>> money through usury, and wherever they are able, they play us all
>> manner of mean tricks… No heathen has done such things and none
>> would to so except the Devil himself and those whom he possesses
>> – as he possesses the Jews.
>> Burgensis, who was a very learned rabbi among them and by the
>> grace of God became a Christian (which seldom occurs), is much
>> moved that in their schools they so horribly curse us Christians
>> (as Lyra also writes) and from that draws the conclusion that
>> they must not be the people of God.
>> Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain
>> about being captives among us! Jerusalem was destroyed more than
>> 1,400 years ago during that time we Christians have been tortured
>> and persecuted by the Jews in all the world. On top of that, we
>> do not know to this day what Devil brought them into our country.
>> We did not fetch them from Jerusalem!… Yes, we have and hold
>> them captive, as I would like to keep my rheumatism, and all
>> other diseases and misfortunes, who must wait as a poor servant,
>> with money and property and everything I have! I wish they were
>> in Jerusalem with the other Jews and whomsoever they would like
>> to have with them.
>
>> Now what are we going to do with these rejected, condemned Jewish
>> people?… Let us apply the ordinary wisdom of other nations like
>> France, Spain, Bohemia, et al., who made them give an account of
>> what they had stolen through usury, and divided it evenly; but
>> expelled them from their country;. For as heard before, God’s
>> wrath is so great over them that through soft mercy they only
>> become more wicked, through hard treatment, however, only a
>> little better. Therefore, away with them!
>> How much more unbearable it is that we should permit the entire
>> Christendom and all of us to be bought with our own money, be
>> slandered and cursed by the Jews, who on top of all that be made
>> rich and our lords, who laugh us to scorn and are tickled by
>> their audacity!
>> What a joyful affair that would be for the Devil and his angels,
>> and cause them to laugh through their snouts like a sow grinning
>> at her little pigs, but deserving real wrath before God. (From
>> THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES)
>> Maybe mild-hearted and gentle Christians will believe that I am
>> too rigorous and drastic against the poor, afflicted Jews,
>> believing that I ridicule them and treat them with much sarcasm.
>> By my word, I am far too weak to be able to ridicule such a
>> satanic brood. I would fain to do so, but they are far greater
>> adepts at mockery than I and possess a god who is master in this
>> art. It is the Evil One himself.
>> Even with no further evidence than the Old Testament, I would
>> maintain, and no person on earth could alter my opinion, that the
>> Jews as they are today are veritably a mixture of all the
>> depraved and malevolent knaves of the whole world over, who have
>> then been dispersed in all countries, similarly to the Tartars,
>> Gypsies and such folk.”
>
>>WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.
>
>> “They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the
>> enemy’s armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our
>> liberties and the great cause we are engaged in… It is much to
>> be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down
>> as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the
>> happiness of America.”
>
>>This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a “CHIT CHAT AROUND THE
>>TABLE DURING INTERMISSION,” at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention
>>of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth
>>Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.
>
>> “I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
>> young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The
>> menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
>> In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they
>> have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial
>> integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been
>> assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian
>> religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its
>> restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when
>> opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially,
>> as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
>> For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate
>> in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call
>> Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee
>> simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning.
>> Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on
>> vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must
>> subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
>> If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
>> Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here
>> in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land
>> and change our form of government, for which we Americans have
>> shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our
>> liberty.
>> If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our
>> descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them
>> substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing
>> their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews
>> for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
>> Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will
>> nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never
>> be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American’s, and
>> will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard
>> cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this
>> country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this
>> Constitutional Convention.
>
>>STUYVESANT, PETER. 17th century Dutch governor in America.
>
>> “The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here,
>> but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful
>> trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior
>> magistrates, as also to the people having the most affection for
>> you; the Deaconry also fearing that owing to their present
>> indigence they might become a charge in the coming winter, we
>> have, for the benefit of this weak newly developing place and
>> land in general, deemed it useful to require them in a friendly
>> way to depart; praying also most seriously in this connection,
>> for ourselves also for the general community of your worships,
>> that the deceitful race – such hateful enemies and blasphemers of
>> the name of Christ – not be allowed further to infect and trouble
>> this new colony. (Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber of the Dutch
>> West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22, 1654.)
>
>>The Jews whom he attempted to oust merely applied to their fellow Jews in
>>Holland, and the order came back from the Company countermanding the
>>expulsion. (For a similar situation during the Civil War, see ULYSSES
>>GRANT). Among the reasons given by “their worships” for over-ruling their
>>governor, one stands out rather glaringly, in view of the usual Jewish
>>contention that their people were ‘poor and persecuted:’ ” …and also
>>because of the large amount of capital which they have invested in shares
>>of this Company.” (Harry Golden and Martin Rywell, THE JEWS IN AMERICAN
>>HISTORY)
>
>>THE GEORGIA COLONY IN AMERICA. On January 5, 1734, the trustees ordered
>>that three Jews who had been sending correligionists into the colony
>>without authorization “use their endeavors that the said Jews may be
>>removed from the Colony of Georgia, as the best and only satisfaction that
>>they can give to the Trustees for such an indignity offered to Gentlemen
>>acting under His Majesty’s Charter.” (C. Jones, HISTORY OF SAVANNAH)
>
>>JEFFERSON, THOMAS. 18th century American statesman.
>
>> “Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign
>> to the land they live in. ” (D. Boorstin, THE AMERICANS)
>> “Those who labor in the earth are the Chosen People of God, if
>> ever he had a chosen people. ” (NOTES ON VIRGINIA)
>
>>BEAMISH, HENRY H. 20th century British publisher.
>
>> “There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You
>> must face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here.
>> I was here forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open and
>> you were then free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat –
>> that is their reward. ” (New York speech, October 30, 1937)
>
>>HARRINGTON, LORD. 19th century British statesman. Opposed admission of
>>Jewish immigrants to England because:
>
>> “They are the great moneylenders and loan contractors of the
>> world… The consequence is that the nations of the world are
>> groaning under heavy systems of taxation and national debt. They
>> have ever been the greatest enemies of freedom. (Speech in the
>> House of Lords, July 12, 1858)
>
>>WALTER CRICK, British Manufacturer, in the NORTHAMPTON DAILY ECHO, March
>>19. 1925)
>
>> “Jews can destroy by means of finance. Jews are International.
>> Control of credits in this country is not in the hands of the
>> English, but of Jews. It has become the biggest danger the
>> British Empire ever had to face.”
>
>>WORLD FAMOUS MEN of the past accused the Jews of founding Communism. This
>>charge is well founded. The Communist philosopy was drawn up by Karl Marx
>>who descended from a long line of Rabbis. His ideology of anti-Christian
>>and Socialist thought is outlined in the Jewish “TALMUD” which is the
>>”bible” of the Jews. Of the four political groups which overthrew the
>>Christan Czar of Russia two were 100% Jewish. They were the Mensheviks and
>>The Jewish Bund. The other two were the Socialist Revolutionary Party and
>>the Bolsheviks. Both were headed by Jews but had some Gentile members.
>>Today we now know that Lenin was Jewish and all of the leaders of his first
>>government were Jews. They were Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Sverdlow.
>>The wealthiest Jewish banker in the world at that time, Jacob Schiff of
>>Kuhn, Loeb investment bank of New York City, gave Trotsky and Lenin $20
>>million to overthrow the Czar and establish the Soviet tyranny (according
>>to the “NEW YORK JOURNAL-AMERICAN” of February 3, 1949.)
>
>>CHURCHILL, WINSTON. 20th century British politician. In 1920, he wrote a
>>long newspaper article of the recent Bolshevik seizure of Russia. After
>>praising what he called the “national Jews” of Russia, he said:
>
>> “In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise
>> the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this
>> sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy
>> populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of
>> their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of
>> their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual
>> hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new.
>> From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and
>> down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg
>> (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide
>> revolutionary conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and
>> for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested
>> development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has
>> been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs.
>> Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in the
>> tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
>> every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now
>> at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the
>> underworlds of the great cities of Europe and America have
>> gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have
>> become practically the undisputed masters of the enormous empire.
>
>> There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of
>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian
>> Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic
>> Jews. It is certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs
>> all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of
>> the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration
>> and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders… In the Soviet
>> institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astounding.
>> And the prominent if not the principal part in the system of
>> terrorism applied by the extraordinary Commissions for combating
>> Counter Revolution has been take by Jews, and in some notable
>> cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews
>> in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in
>> Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany
>> (especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to
>> prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>> Although in all these countries there are many nonJews every whit
>> as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part
>> played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the
>> population is astonishing. (“Zionism versus Bolshevism: A
>> Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People.” ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY
>> HERALD, London, February 8, 1920.)
>
>>BAKUNYIN, MIKHYL. 19th century Russian revolutionary.
>
>> “Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or
>> less intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews
>> are everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers,
>> politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in
>> short, literary brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with
>> one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and
>> their arses sitting upon the German press. They have grabbed hold
>> of all newspapers, and you can imagine what a nauseating
>> literature is the outcome of it.
>> Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting
>> sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an
>> instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds.
>> This may seem strange. What could there be in common between
>> communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a
>> strong state centralization, and where this exists there must
>> inevitably exist a state central bank, and where this exists,
>> there the parasitic Jewish nation, which speculates upon the
>> labor of the people, will always find the means for its
>> existence…
>> In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime,
>> under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately
>> connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but
>> of political differences as well – this Jewish world is today
>> largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschil. I am sure that, on
>> the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and
>> that on the other hand, women, converted into a uniform mass,
>> would rise, fall asleep, work and live at the beat of the drum;
>> the privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and
>> the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals
>> carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous
>> extension of the international speculations of the national
>> banks… (Pol_mique contres les Juifs)
>
>>This startling piece of prediction is particularly impressive to those who
>>have observed the Soviet scene and notice its strange relationship with
>>capitalist financiers – overwhelmingly Jewish – since the revolution. The
>>line runs from Olof Aschberg, self-described “Bolshevik banker” who ferried
>>to Trotsky the huge sums raised for the revolution by financiers in Europe
>>and America, to Armand Hammer in the 1970s, who has specialized in
>>multimillion-dollar trade concessions with the now supposedly
>>’anti-Semitic’ commissars.
>
>>WILHELM II. German Kaiser.
>
>> “A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like
>> a bad insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can
>> do mischief – even by pogroms, if necessary.
>> The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany
>> too. I was far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I
>> bitterly regret the favors I showed the prominent Jewish
>> bankers.” (CHICAGO TRIBUNE, July 2, 1922)
>
>>CARDINAL MINDSZENTY, of Hungary quoted in B’nai B’rith Messenger, January
>>28, 1949
>
>> “The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews… they demoralize our
>> country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that
>> is torturing Hungary.”
>
>>ADRIEN ARCAND, New York speech, October 30, 1937
>>
>> “When it came to Mexico, the promoters of Communism were the Jews
>> Calles, Hubermann and Aaron Saenz; in Spain we saw Aza±a and
>> Rosenberg; in Hungary we saw Bela Kun, Szamuelly, Agoston and
>> dozen other Jews; in Bavaria, we saw Kurt Eisner and a host of
>> other Jews; in Belgium Marxian Socialism brought to power
>> Vadervelde alias Epstein, and Paul Hymans, two Jews; in France,
>> Marxian Socialism brought forth the Jews Leon Blum (who showed so
>> well his Jewish instincts in his filthy book Du Mariarge),
>> Mandel, Zyromsky, Danain and a whole tribe of them; in Italy we
>> had seen the Jews Nathan and Claudio Treves. Everywhere, Marxism
>> brings Jews on the top – And this is no hazard.”
>
>>HILAIRE BELLOC, renown historian in G. K.’s WEEKLY, February 4, 1937
>
>> “The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in
>> organization and direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As
>> for anyone who does not know that the Bolshevist movement in
>> Russia is Jewish, I can only say that he must be a man who is
>> taken in by the suppression of our deplorable press.”
>
>>A. HOMER, writes in Judaism and Bolshevism, page 7
>
>> “History shows that the Jew has always been, by nature, a
>> revolutionary and that, since the dispersion of his race in the
>> second century, he has either initiated or assisted revolutionary
>> movements in religion, politics and finance, which weakened the
>> power of the States wherein he dwelt. On the other hand, a few
>> far-seeing members of that race have always been at hand to reap
>> financial and political advantage coincident with such
>> upheavals.”
>
>>CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY SCHYLER, American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia, in a
>>military intelligence report dated March 1, 1919, to Lt. Col. Barrows in
>>Vladivostok
>
>> “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States
>> but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning
>> guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type, who
>> have been in the United States and there absorbed every one of
>> the worst phases of our civilization without having the least
>> understanding of what we really mean by liberty.”
>
>>MRS. CLARE SHERIDAN, Traveler, Lecturer in NEW YORK WORLD, December 15,
>>1923
>
>> “The Communists are Jews, and Russia is being entirely
>> administered by them. They are in every government office, bureau
>> and newspaper. They are driving out the Russians and are
>> responsible for the anti-Semitic feeling which is increasing.”
>
>>MAJOR ROBERT H. WILLIAMS, in Fecp and the Minority Machine, page 10
>
>> “B’nai B’rith, the secret Jewish fraternity, was organized in
>> 1843, awakening world Jewish aspirations, or Zionism, and its
>> name, meaning “Sons of the Covenant,” suggests that the 12 men
>> who organized the fraternity aimed at bringing about the
>> fulfillment of “the Covenant,” or the supposed Messianic promise
>> of rulership over all peoples. To rule all peoples, it is first
>> necessary to bring them together in a world federation or world
>> government – which is the avowed aim of both Communists and
>> Zionists.”

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On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:52:04 -0600, [email protected]
(Vladimir Svetlov) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Simcha Streltsov) wrote:
>
>
>> in my experience, there always was anti-Russian sentiment in almost all
>> Lithuanian circles – some folks asociated [Russian-speaking] Jews with
>> Russians and did not like us
>
>I sorta knew it would come to that – anti-semitism as misplaced
>russophobia… Of course, if not for well deserved anti-Russian sentiment
>and some astigmatic Lithuaninas, there would be no anti-semitism among the
>Balts. So, in order to avert any future confusion like this one here it
>comes again, back by popular demand
>
>THE COMPLETE IDIOT’S GUIDE TO LOWER RACES, trans. from Aryan
>
> RUSSIANS – relatively large human-like mammals, pale in hue, may even
>reach the size of a real Lithianian. No discernable forehead, squinted
>Tartar eyes and big clumsy hands add to the above portrait of the average
>Russian. Prefers keeping in hordes, which are regularly being pushed out of
>Siberian taiga by something even more disgusting than Russians themselves
>(probably the savage dog-headed wood elves), outward in the direction of
>Europe. Thus every Lithuanian has to learn how to identify these animals in
>the wild and to know how to deal with migrating Russians en route.
>It was said that they can be as large as humans, but never quite so tall as
>their backs are always bent due to their inherent affection to slavery.
>Feed them on your own risk – as long as you feed the Russians they’ll stay
>around and will disturb the peace and beauty of any imaginable local
>(except in Hell!). When fed, Russians fall asleep immediately, unless
>additionally intoxicated by alcohol – in the latter case they become
>restless and start shouting their songs that make the fog horn sound
>musical. Don’t try to help Russians out of your area by giving them
>directions – they have no understanding of geography and only get confused
>by words like “right” and “left”. In some areas giving Russians the wrong
>directions has become a local tradition and a source of endless (albeit
>somewhat rustic) amusement. As you’ve guessed, Russians can sometimes mimic
>the human speech, but have no real understanding of it. Their own
>communication system is no more pleasant to a refined listener than the
>sound of a chainsaw cutting through a live pig. Pay no attention to it, it
>is not meant to deliver any more information than the interior of the milk
>carton.
>It’s easy to handle Russians if you remember that the brute force and
>natural command quality of the superior human race are the only things that
>Russians take a notice of. A five year old child of a Lithuanian mother has
>enough power in him to send a dozen of Russians packing. Raise the voice
>and they run scared, back to the protective shadow of the woods. Edibility
>- edible with Russian Dressing from Kraft Foods.
>
> JEWS – smaller than Russians (next to a Lithuanian a Jew appears like
>nothing but a dwarf) and more dark-skinned. Bid deceiving eyes, huge nose
>pointing downward, long worm-like fingers trembling with greed will shout
>”A JEW!” right at you. Unlike Russians, Jew don’t form hordes; instead they
>live in families where old Jews teach the young one the secrets of lying
>and cheating. Jews are much smarter than Russians (oh, like that’s a big
>achievement) and much harder to get rid off. No one knows where they came
>from or where they will go, when they go away. A Jew would not be a match
>for a fair Lithuanian lad in any sport, but they often get ahead whereever
>their cheating, lying and stealing goes unnoticed. Even Russians don’t like
>the Jews, not through systematic analysis and weighted judgement, like
>Lithuanians, but through some native, druid-like gut feeling of the wild
>wood dwellers. Jews never have pets of their own – unlike Russians, who
>drag around their udly bastards of dogs and cats everywhere they set their
>own dirty feet, Jews detest sharing their quarters with any living being
>other than themselves. Or maybe it’s the living that are keeping away from
>these creepy bloodsuckers. Edibility – don’t bother.
>
>The full text of this very useful and good-humored manual will be available
>in the fall from Mein Kampf Publishing House in Vilnus. It will also cover
>such important subjects as “33 ways to get rid of the Gypsies and their
>eggs”, “Midgets – small people or big bugs?”, “There is a Russian on my
>bus!”, “Odor management for a Jew-slayer”, “I did not know Russians ate my
>newspapers untill I called my psychic”, “What you do not know about the
>Jews may make your daughter marry one of them” and many more.
>
>For entertainment purpose only.
sven88