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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach
>wrote:

>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> By Dr. E. R. Fields

>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>>
>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP
>>
>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>”extermination camp”.
>>
>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>>
>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>
>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>
>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>
>> This brings up the following questions.
>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>>
>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>
>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking.”
>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>
>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>
>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>>
>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>
>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>>
>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>
>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning.”
>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>>
>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>
>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>>
>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>
>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>victims.
>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>>
>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>
>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>
>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>
>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.

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On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:57:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>And don’t forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>gangster!!!
>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin’s participation in war crimes
>>>>>
>>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>>
>>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook “to
>>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts.” A Signatory may
>>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world’s
>>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States’ legal obligations to do so.
>>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>>1977, as ‘grave breaches’, the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>>prosecute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>>
>>>>>”1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately.” The order was signed “Yitzhak
>>>>>R[abin].”
>>>>>
>>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>>”The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949″ by Israeli
>>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo’s book “The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland”, Quartet Books,
>>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>>
>>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin’s implication in
>>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin’s orders. As a prelude to
>>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile’. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>>planned ‘transfer’ policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>>master plan of “ethnical cleansing”.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as ‘war crimes’.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>> of their Inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>>prohibit “at any time and in any place whatsoever….collective
>>>>>punishments”. It seems that the destruction of these villages – every
>>>>>single house in them – constitutes ‘collective punishment’ within the
>>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>> Youngsters
>>>>>
>>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by “force, might,
>>>>>beatings”. More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha’aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin’s role in these
>>>>>policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) “inhuman treatment….wilfully
>>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health”. Protocol I
>>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>>the acts which remain “prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:”: “Violence to
>>>>>the….physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular….(iii)
>>>>>corporal punishment.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>> Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin’s war:
>>>>>”Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>>southern Lebanon. (…) Rabin’s War – Operation Accountability – has killed
>>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>>Beirut. (…) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(…) About
>>>>>80 villages have been hit.”. According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the “majority of casualties were
>>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>>around 100,000.”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was “expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon ‘uninhabitable’ and to create a
>>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel’s will (…)”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), “some 400,000
>>>>>people – mainly Shi’ite Muslims – fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>>specifies as a ‘grave breach’ (war crime) “making the civilian population
>>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack” as well as “launching an
>>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects”. Further details are provided
>>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a ‘grave breach’ of international
>>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>>
>>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>>
>>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>>
>>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>>their country’s sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>>
>>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Rabin’s Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>>
>>>>>As to Mr. Rabin’s personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>>and 1967).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>>”to break the bones” of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by “force, might, beatings” and
>>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel’s Prime
>>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin’s primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>>described as ‘war crimes’ as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of ‘war crimes’, as committed in World
>>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>>Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>>the “deportation … for any … purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>>occupied territory” as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>>”deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>>population….when such acts are done….in connection with any crime
>>>>>against peace or any war crime”, as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>>process of law to determine a defendant’s culpability and punishment). The
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes ‘corporal punishment’, although not as
>>>>>a ‘grave breach’. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the ‘grave
>>>>>breaches’ (war crimes), if such attacks were committed “wilfully, in
>>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>>serious injury to body or health”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>>then, state:
>>>>>
>>>>>”The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law”
>>>>>(Principle III. “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him”.
>>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>>
>>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>>such reservations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived – legally – by
>>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today’s world, it
>>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>>circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Human rights’ and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin’s
>>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:30:39 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:19:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:48:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>>>>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>>>>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>>>>role model???

>>>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:

>>>>> Positive Jewish role models

>>>>> Alan Silver.. wrote:

>>>>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant. Whatever
>>>>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>>>>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>>>>> > — crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>>>>> > whatever.
>>>>> =========
>>>>> Dear Alan,

>>>>> Thank you for your email. I am posting your letter, while removing your
>>>>> signature.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>>>>> Yes, it is hardly significant. The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>>>>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>>>>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>>>>> Ukrainians and Germans. We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>>>>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.

>>>>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>>>>> and admire Jewish achievements world over. (And yes I am jelous of it
>>>>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>>>>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)

>>>>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>>>>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>>>>> martyrology. The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>>>>> by Israeli archeologists. It is about the time that the mythical parts
>>>>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>>>>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>>>>> helping Jews.

>>>>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>>>>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.

>>>>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>>>>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>>>>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>>>>> a barn on July 11, 19941.

>>>>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>>>>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.

>>>>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>>>>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>>>>> many others. My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>>>>> Rubin.
>>>>> ————
>>>>> Jozef pawlikowski

>>>>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI >>>>> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>>>>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>>>>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM

>>>>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>>>>> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>>>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>>>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>>>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>>>> > > > |> education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

>>>>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>>>> > > > |> of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>>>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>>>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>>>> > > > |> closed.

>>>>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>>>> > > > |longer or die now!

>>>>> > > > Herman
>>>>> > > > Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian, Polack,
>>>>> > > > Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>>>>> > > > guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian, and
>>>>> > > > other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish community
>>>>> > > > not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals, unless
>>>>> > > > they happen to be jews.

>>>>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>>>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!

>>>>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>>>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.

>>>>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>>>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>>>> > > > |> Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>>>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>>>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>>>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.

>>>>> > > > What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>>>>> > > > there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label them
>>>>> > > > with any nationality?

>>>>> > > > –Rostyk
>>>>> > > ===============
>>>>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>>>>> > > Research costs $$$. Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>>>>> > > starters.

>>>>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews. I can make out
>>>>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>>>>> > > J

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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, [email protected] (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin’ were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin’ is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong – please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I’ve find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>”Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin’s orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis.
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments.
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin’s order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the “Katyn Massacre”.
>>
>>(…)
>>
>>………………………………………
>>
>>
>> Pawel Jedrzejewski [email protected]

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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, [email protected] (Real Name:)
>wrote:
>>————Reply Separator—————-
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message
>><[email protected]>, NSWPP
>> wrote:

>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998

>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi
>>death camp of Auschwitz.

>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.

>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups.

>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,”
>>she added.

>>But even if the government quickly secures an
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.

>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ

>>At issue is the definition of what activity is
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent,
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near
>>the site.

>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity
>>of the complex.

>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.

>>A discreet deal between the government and an
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a
>>nationalist uproar.

>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.

>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.

>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.

>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be
>>negotiated.

>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”

>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec,
>>“But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”

>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE

>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.

>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.

>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less
>>frequently.

>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by
>>the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs,
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the
>>extermination campaign.

>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”

>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are
>>also on the agenda.

>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,”
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.

>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating
>>dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.

>>But officials accept that, despite good will and
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.

>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a
>>leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.

>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

>-88-

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On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:05:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:15:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:40:38 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

>Zionism and the Third Reich

>Mark Weber

>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
>German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name,
>”Tel Aviv,” while a
>swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was
>Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many
>years later a traveler
>aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a “metaphysical
>absurdity.”1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a
>little-known chapter of history: The
>wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler’s Third Reich.
>
>Common Aims
>
>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the “Jewish question”: that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During
>the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared
>similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed
>that Jews and Germans were
>distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in
>Germany.
>Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as “Germans
>of the Jewish faith,” but rather as members of a separate national
>community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by
>Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the
>”Jewish homeland.” They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other
>”foreign” country.
>
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained
>that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and
>attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize
>reality and live in a separate state of their own.
>
>”The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers,”
>he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. “Where it
>does not exist, it is brought
>in by arriving Jews. . . . I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which
>is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew,
>without hate or fear.” The Jewish question, he maintained, is not
>social or religious. “It is a national
>question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue. . . .”
>
>Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not
>merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.
>Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered
>the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.”
>
>
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of
>Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a
>detailed memorandum to the
>new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally
>offered Zionist support in “solving” the vexing “Jewish question.” The
>first step, it suggested,
>had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4
>
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition,
>which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in
>the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one’s own
>tradition. Zionism
>recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend,
>symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear . . .
>
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people,
>which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its
>Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a
>sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping
>of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the
>liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community
>and collective responsibility . . .
>
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that
>can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question,
>take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will
>have to be dealt with by most European peoples . . .
>
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and
>sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial
>realities.
>
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals,
>because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining
>the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the
>cultural domain, we – having been brought up in the German language
>and German culture – can show an
> interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration
>and internal sympathy . . .
>
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the
>collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews,
>because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are
>involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment
>especially the German people . . .
>
>Boycott propaganda – such as is currently being carried on against
>Germany in many ways – is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants
>not to do battle but to convince and to build . . .
>
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will
>continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe
>disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions
>for other peoples.
>
>The Federation’s paper, the Jüdische Rundschau (“Jewish Review”),
>proclaimed the same message: “Zionism recognizes the existence of a
>Jewish problem and
>desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose
>Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro-
>or anti-Jewish, because, in its
>view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental
>problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested.”5 A young
>Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz,
>who later settled in the United States and became head of the American
>Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden (“We Jews”), that
>the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant “Jewry for the
>Jews.” He explained: “No
>subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new
>concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race.” 6
>
>Active Collaboration
>
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and
>nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what
>each group believed was in its own
>national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously
>supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until
>1940-1941, when the Second
>World War prevented extensive collaboration.
>
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews,
>probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with
>considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about
>pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews
>turned to Zionism
>during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished
>in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation’s
>bi-weekly Judische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books
>were published. “Zionist
>work was in full swing” in Germany during those years, the
>Encyclopaedia Judaica
>notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected “in its
>composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists.”7
>
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An
>internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging
>support for Zionism by the
>government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of
>Germany’s Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish
>self-awareness. Jewish
>schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations – in
>short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and
>self-awareness – should be
>promoted, the paper recommended.8
>
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official
>Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess
>Zionist development there. Based
>on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of
>twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff
>that appeared in late 1934 under
>the heading “A Nazi Travels to Palestine.” The series expressed great
>admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish
>settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had
>produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world.
>
>A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article,
>”pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the
>world: the Jewish
>question.” Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one
>side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint
>SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the
>Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to
>support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
>
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support
>for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: “The time may not be
>too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who
>have been lost to it for
>more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official
>goodwill, go with them.”10
>
>Four months later, a similar article appeared in the SS paper: 11
>
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not
>on religion leads the German government to guarantee without
>reservation the racial separateness of this community. The government
>finds itself in complete agreement with the great spiritual movement
>within Jewry, the so-called
>Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around the
>world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role
>in the future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
>
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service
>from Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing “strictly
>kosher food on its ships,
>under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate.” 12
>
>With official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to “reeducate”
>Germany’s Jews. As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his
>1985 survey, The Third Reich
>and the Palestine Question: “Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to
>educate German Jews about Palestine. There was considerable pressure
>to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying themselves as Germans
>and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in them.” 13
>
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist
>Federation of Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation:
>”The Gestapo did everything in
>those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine. We often
>received their help when we required anything from other authorities
>regarding preparations for emigration.” 14
>
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called “Nuremberg laws” that prohibited marriages and
>sexual relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed
>the Jews an alien minority
>nationality. A few days later the Zionist Judische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
>
>Germany . . . is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress
>when it declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national
>minority. Once the Jews have been stamped a national minority it is
>again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The
>new laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life,
>its own national life. In future it will be able to shape its own
>schools, its own theatre, and its
>own sports associations. In short, it can create its own future in all
>aspects of national life . . .
>
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for
>itself, and is offering state protection for this separate life of the
>Jewish minority:
>
>Jewry’s process of growth into a nation will thereby be encouraged and
>a contribution will be made to the establishment of more tolerable
>relations between the two nations.
>
>Georg Kareski, the head of both the “Revisionist” Zionist State
>Organization and the Jewish Cultural League, and former head of the
>Berlin Jewish Community,
>declared in an interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end
>of 1935: 16
>
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural
>affairs of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for
>living together without conflict. . . . I have long supported such a
>separation, provided it is founded on respect for the alien
>nationality. The Nuremberg Laws
> . . . seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform
>entirely with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect.
>. . . This interruption
>of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities, which had
>been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a Jewish
>point of view, entirely welcome.
>
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S.
>Wise, president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish
>Congress, told a New
>York rally in June 1938: “I am not an American citizen of the Jewish
>faith, I am a Jew. . . . Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race.” 17
>
>The Interior Ministry’s Jewish affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard
>L_sener,
>expressed support for Zionism in an article that appeared in a
>November 1935 issue of the
>official Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
>
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them
>were settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely
>resolved today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of
>opposition to
>the ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the
>Zionists, because they realize at once that these laws represent the
>only correct solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation
>must have its own state as the outward expression of its particular
>nationhood.
>
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout
>Germany where
>prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German
>flag, Jews were specifically
>guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national
>banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at
>the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler’s Germany. 19
>
>Himmler’s security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid
>Haganah official Feivel
>Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help
>in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah
>was kept well informed
>about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin
>headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included
>secret deliveries of German
>weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs.
>21
>
>In the aftermath of the November 1938 “Kristallnacht” outburst of
>violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist
>organization to get back on its feet
>and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted
>supervision. 22
>
>Official Reservations
>
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party
>officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful
>Jewish communities in the
>United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize “their”
>governments and
>fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained
>implacably hostile
>towards National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority
>of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the
>Zionist “promised land,” a
>sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really “solve” the
>international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it
>would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.
>German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
>
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats
>in June 1937, would not be in Germany’s interest because it would not
>be able to absorb all
>Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power
>base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as
>a base for international Communism.24
>
>Reflecting something of a shift in official policy,
>the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for
>Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between
>Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing. 25
>
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in
>spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, “it would
>nevertheless be a mistake to
>assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in
>Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the
>anti-German agitation of international
>Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish
>state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the
>world.”26 ”
>
>The proclamation
>of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine,” warned an
>internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, “would
>create for Germany a new
>enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the
>Near East.”
>
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state “would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry.”27 In
>January 1939,
>
>Hitler’s new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned
>in another circular bulletin that “Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous” because it
>”would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry.” 28
>
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938
>and, in spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and
>misgivings that his policies might
>contribute to the formation of a Jewish state, decided to support
>Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The prospect of
>ridding Germany of its Jews,
>he concluded, outweighed the possible dangers. 29
>
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic
>restrictions on Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and
>1939. In response, the SS
>security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several
>convoys of ships succeeded in reaching
>Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish migration, both legal and
>illegal, from Germany
>(including Austria) to Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and
>1939.
>
>Another 10,000 Jews were scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the
>outbreak of war in September brought the effort to an end. All the
>same, German authorities continued to promote indirect Jewish
>emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized Zionist
>”kibbutz” training camp for potential emigrants continued to operate
>in Hitler’s Germany. 31
>
>The Transfer Agreement
>
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era
>was theTransfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of
>German Jews to migrate
>to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Ha’avara (Hebrew for “transfer”), was concluded in August 1933
>following talks between German
>officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish
>Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
>
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine
>deposited money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to
>purchase German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps,
>fertilizer, and so
>forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Ha’avara
>company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to the Jewish
>emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount corresponding to
>his deposit in Germany.
>
>German goods poured into Palestine through the Ha’avara, which was
>supplemented a short time later with a barter agreement by which
>Palestine oranges were
>exchanged for German timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and
>other goods. The Agreement thus served the Zionist aim of bringing
>Jewish settlers and
>development capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the
>German goal of freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
>
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated
>the merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine
>the international
>Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist officials
>reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the Ha’avara
>arrangement, stressed that
>the Agreement was not economically advantageous to Germany. Arthur
>Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration specialist who had helped
>negotiate the pact,
>pointed out that “the Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the
>boycott movement, since no new currency will flow into Germany as a
>result of the agreement. . . .” 33 The 1935 Zionist Congress, meeting
>in Switzerland,
>overwhelmingly endorsed the pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the
>Zionist “shadow
>government” in Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha’avara,
>which remained in effect until the Second World War forced its
>abandonment.
>
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany’s Consul
>General in Jerusalem, Hans D_hle, for example, sharply criticized the
>Agreement on several
>occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the foreign
>exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Ha’avara monopoly sale of German
>goods to Palestine through a
>Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and Arabs there.
>Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of German
>markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34
>
>A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal bulletin referred to the
>”foreign exchange sacrifices” that resulted from the Ha’avara. 35
>
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry
>reviewed the impact of the Transfer Agreement: “There is no doubt that
>the Ha’avara arrangement has contributed most significantly to the
>very rapid development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided
>not only the largest source of money
>(from Germany!), but also the most intelligent group of immigrants,
>and finally it brought to the country the machines and industrial
>products essential for
>development.” The main advantage of the pact, the memo reported, was
>the emigration of large numbers of Jews to Palestine, the most
>desirable target country as
>far as Germany was concerned. But the paper also noted the important
>drawbacks pointed out by Consul D_hle and others. The Interior
>Minister, it went on, had
>concluded that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the
>advantages and that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
>
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed
>the policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and
>each time decided
>to maintain the Ha’avara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
>
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer
>company, the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria,
>through which Jews in
>foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine. Almost
>$900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews in
>Palestine.38
>
>Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish emigration
>concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the Ha’avara. In
>1937 Poland authorized the
>Halifin (Hebrew for “exchange”) transfer company. By late summer 1939,
>Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and Italy had signed similar
>arrangements.
>
>The outbreak of war in September 1939, however, prevented large-scale
>implementation of these agreements. 39
>
>Achievements of Ha’avara
>
>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha’avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about
>ten percent of Germany’s 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews
>made up about 15 percent
>of Palestine’s 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha’avara emigrants
>transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to Palestine. As
>Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: “Many of these people,
>especially in the late 1930s, were
>allowed to transfer actual replicas of their homes and factories –
>indeed rough replicas of their very existence.”40
>
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the
>Ha’avara between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million
>pounds or 139.57 million
>German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This amount
>included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
>
>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have
>flowed into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements
>and special international banking transactions. The German funds had a
>major impact on a
>country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed
>out.
>
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile
>firm. The influx of Ha’avara goods
>and capital, concluded Black, “produced an economic explosion in
>Jewish Palestine” and was “an indispensable factor in the creation of
>the State of Israel.”42
>
>The Ha’avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli
>state. A January 1939 German
>Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that
>”the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha’avara
>agreement] contributed to
>no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine.”43
>
>Former officials of the Ha’avara company in Palestine confirmed this
>view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972:
>”The economic activity
>made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers
>to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the
>country’s development.
>
>Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in
>Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important
>even today in the
>economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara.”44
>
>Dr.Ludwig Pinner, a Ha’avara company official in Tel Aviv during the
>1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha’avara
>immigrants “decisively
>contributed” to the economic, social, cultural and educational
>development of Palestine’s Jewish community.45
>
>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of
>cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism.
>Through this pact, Hitler’s Third
>Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support
>Jewish development in Palestine.
>
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
>
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization
>submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a
>military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made
>by the radical underground “Fighters for
>the Freedom of Israel,” better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its
>leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical
>nationalist “National Military Organization” (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over
>the group’s attitude toward Britain, which
>had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern
>regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.
>
>This remarkable Zionist proposal “for the solution of the Jewish
>question in Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in
>the war on the side of
>Germany” is worth quoting at some length:46
>
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe
>requires as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question
>by evacuation.(“Jew-free Europe”)
>
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state
>in its historical boundaries.
>
>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the
>Israel Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in
>Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this
>way and thus completely liberate the Jewish people forever.
>
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany
>and the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
>
>
>
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>>http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
>
>

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>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach
>>wrote:

>>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>>> By Dr. E. R. Fields

>>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>>actual took place.

>>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP

>>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>>”extermination camp”.
>>>
>>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>>>
>>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>>2.8% in June 1943.
>>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>>
>>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>>
>>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>>
>>> This brings up the following questions.
>>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>>MASS GASSINGS!
>>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>>died from typhus.
>>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>>1946.)
>>>
>>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>>
>>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>>died in his cell.
>>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>>smoking.”
>>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>>
>>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>>
>>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>>>
>>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>>
>>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>>which carry typhus.
>>>
>>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>>
>>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>>burning.”
>>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>>ashes.
>>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>>>
>>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>>
>>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>>>
>>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>>
>>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>>holocaust which never occurred?
>>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>>victims.
>>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>>laws.
>>>
>>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>>
>>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>>
>>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>>
>>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>>Zionist political goals.

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Subject: Re: ZIONIST HEROES – WAR CRIMINALS!!!!
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>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>And don’t forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>gangster!!!

>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin’s participation in war crimes

>>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>>1992 and December 1994

>>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook “to
>>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts.” A Signatory may
>>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world’s
>>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States’ legal obligations to do so.
>>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>>1977, as ‘grave breaches’, the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>>prosecute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>>
>>>>>”1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately.” The order was signed “Yitzhak
>>>>>R[abin].”
>>>>>
>>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>>”The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949″ by Israeli
>>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo’s book “The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland”, Quartet Books,
>>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>>
>>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin’s implication in
>>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin’s orders. As a prelude to
>>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile’. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>>planned ‘transfer’ policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>>master plan of “ethnical cleansing”.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as ‘war crimes’.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>> of their Inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>>prohibit “at any time and in any place whatsoever….collective
>>>>>punishments”. It seems that the destruction of these villages – every
>>>>>single house in them – constitutes ‘collective punishment’ within the
>>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>> Youngsters
>>>>>
>>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by “force, might,
>>>>>beatings”. More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha’aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin’s role in these
>>>>>policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) “inhuman treatment….wilfully
>>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health”. Protocol I
>>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>>the acts which remain “prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:”: “Violence to
>>>>>the….physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular….(iii)
>>>>>corporal punishment.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>> Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin’s war:
>>>>>”Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>>southern Lebanon. (…) Rabin’s War – Operation Accountability – has killed
>>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>>Beirut. (…) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(…) About
>>>>>80 villages have been hit.”. According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the “majority of casualties were
>>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>>around 100,000.”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was “expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon ‘uninhabitable’ and to create a
>>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel’s will (…)”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), “some 400,000
>>>>>people – mainly Shi’ite Muslims – fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>>specifies as a ‘grave breach’ (war crime) “making the civilian population
>>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack” as well as “launching an
>>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects”. Further details are provided
>>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a ‘grave breach’ of international
>>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>>
>>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>>
>>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>>
>>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>>their country’s sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>>
>>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Rabin’s Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>>
>>>>>As to Mr. Rabin’s personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>>and 1967).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>>”to break the bones” of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by “force, might, beatings” and
>>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel’s Prime
>>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin’s primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>>described as ‘war crimes’ as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of ‘war crimes’, as committed in World
>>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>>Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>>the “deportation … for any … purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>>occupied territory” as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>>”deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>>population….when such acts are done….in connection with any crime
>>>>>against peace or any war crime”, as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>>process of law to determine a defendant’s culpability and punishment). The
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes ‘corporal punishment’, although not as
>>>>>a ‘grave breach’. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the ‘grave
>>>>>breaches’ (war crimes), if such attacks were committed “wilfully, in
>>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>>serious injury to body or health”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>>then, state:
>>>>>
>>>>>”The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law”
>>>>>(Principle III. “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him”.
>>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>>
>>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>>such reservations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived – legally – by
>>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today’s world, it
>>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>>circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Human rights’ and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin’s
>>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach
>wrote:

>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> By Dr. E. R. Fields

>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>>
>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP
>>
>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>”extermination camp”.
>>
>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>>
>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>
>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>
>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>
>> This brings up the following questions.
>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>>
>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>
>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking.”
>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>
>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>
>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>>
>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>
>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>>
>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>
>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning.”
>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>>
>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>
>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>>
>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>
>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>victims.
>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>>
>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>
>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>
>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>
>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.

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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, [email protected] (Real Name:)
>wrote:
>>————Reply Separator—————-
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message
>><[email protected]>, NSWPP
>> wrote:

>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998

>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi
>>death camp of Auschwitz.

>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.

>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups.

>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,”
>>she added.

>>But even if the government quickly secures an
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.

>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ

>>At issue is the definition of what activity is
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent,
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near
>>the site.

>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity
>>of the complex.

>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.

>>A discreet deal between the government and an
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a
>>nationalist uproar.

>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.

>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.

>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.

>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be
>>negotiated.

>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”

>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec,
>>“But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”

>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE

>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.

>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.

>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less
>>frequently.

>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by
>>the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs,
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the
>>extermination campaign.

>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”

>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are
>>also on the agenda.

>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,”
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.

>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating
>>dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.

>>But officials accept that, despite good will and
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.

>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a
>>leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.

>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

>-88-

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>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach
>>wrote:

>>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>>> By Dr. E. R. Fields

>>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>>actual took place.

>>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP

>>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>>”extermination camp”.
>>>
>>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>>>
>>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>>2.8% in June 1943.
>>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>>
>>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>>
>>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>>
>>> This brings up the following questions.
>>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>>MASS GASSINGS!
>>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>>died from typhus.
>>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>>1946.)
>>>
>>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>>
>>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>>died in his cell.
>>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>>smoking.”
>>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>>
>>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>>
>>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>>>
>>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>>
>>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>>which carry typhus.
>>>
>>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>>
>>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>>burning.”
>>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>>ashes.
>>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>>>
>>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>>
>>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>>>
>>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>>
>>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>>holocaust which never occurred?
>>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>>victims.
>>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>>laws.
>>>
>>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>>
>>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>>
>>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>>
>>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>>Zionist political goals.

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On Sat, 19 Dec 1998 00:23:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:17:45 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:10 -0600, “Bassam Kouatli”
>> wrote:

>>>Zionism and the Holocaust

>>>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>>>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>>>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>>>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>>>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>>>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>>>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>>>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>>>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>>>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>>>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>>>prominence.
>>>
>>>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>>>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>>>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>>>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>>>with the rest of Europe’s workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>>>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>>>Jewish state.
>>>
>>>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>>>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>>>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>>>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>>>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>>>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>>>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>>>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>>>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>>>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>>>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>>>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>>>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>>>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>>>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the ‘Jewish
>>>problem’. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>>>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>>>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>>>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>>>Jews.
>>>
>>>The best example of this was the ‘Transfer Agreement’ of 1934. Immediately
>>>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>>>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>>>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>>>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>>>out, the campaign would collapse.
>>>
>>>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>>>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>>>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>>>’Jewish problem’, and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>>>
>>>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>>>against the German development. Boycott propaganda – such as is currently
>>>being carried on against Germany in many ways – is in essence unZionist,
>>>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build…
>>>
>>>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>>>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>>>was the signature of the ‘Transfer Agreement’ with the Nazi authorities
>>>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>>>to get Germany’s Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>>>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>>>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>>>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis – ED).
>>>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>>>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts ‘helping’ Jews
>>>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>>>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>>>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>>>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>>>the Jews come and agree with them.
>>>
>>>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>>>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>>>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>>>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>>>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>>>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>>>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>>>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>>>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the ‘new Jew’ of Zionism, a
>>>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>>>
>>>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>>>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>>>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>>>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>>>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>>>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>>>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>>>
>>>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen’s play PERDITION
>>>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>>>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>>>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>>>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>>>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>>>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>>>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>>>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>>>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>>>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>>>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>>>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>>>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>>>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>>>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>>>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>>>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>>>names were Hungarian – how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>>>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>>>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>>>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>>>statements by Nazi officials.
>>>
>>>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>>>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>>>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>>>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>>>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>>>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>>>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner’s
>>>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary’s Jews to Auschwitz, before
>>>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>>>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>>>
>>>The Committee faced a simple choice – to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>>>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>>>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>>>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>>>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>>>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>>>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>>>
>>>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>>>destruction: the trains of ‘prominents’ which Eichmann promised to Kastner –
>>>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>>>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>>>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>>>
>>>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>>>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>>>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>>>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>>>Auschwitz.
>>>
>>>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>>>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>>>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>>>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>>>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>>>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>>>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>>>
>>>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>>>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>>>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>>>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>>>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>>>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>>>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>>>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You’ll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>>>
>>>
>>>

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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:17:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:17:34 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>Israel is a Paradise for Money Launderers

>>Yediot Ahronot

>>By Sever Plotzker

>>Only in Israel can a person enter a bank with a suitcase that contains a
>>million dollars and deposit the money without disclosing its source. The
>>result: the estimate of the illicit capital coming from abroad into Israeli
>>banks is some $45 billion.1
>>
>>There is also the problem of laundered money from illicit deals within Israel.
>>No competent estimates regarding dimensions of the illegal economy within
>>Israel have been made for 10 years.
>>
>>According to the estimate made in 1983, about 15 percent of the Israeli GNP
>>is not reported to the tax authorities. Experts who have retired in the last
>>years from the State Revenues Administration are convinced that the share of
>>black- market economic activity has grown considerably since that time.
>>
>>Suppose it is still 15 percent. Last year the Israeli budget was about 100
>>billion shekels [around $30 billion]. One may reasonably assume that the total
>>output of the “black economy” reached 45 billion shekels last year. Tax loss
>>for the Treasury: 15 billion shekels – more than the budgetary deficit last
>>year.
>>
>>Who are the principal tax evaders? Contrary to the prevailing view, these are
>>not the richest citizens. They usually report all their income and then hire
>>the services of the best auditors and tax consultants to legally avoid paying
>>any taxes.
>>
>>Many tax evasions are concentrated among the middle-level self-employed, or
>>wage earners who work in their spare time as self-employed. But most of the
>>taxes evaded come from all kinds of criminal activity.2 It is hard to chase
>>medium and small tax evaders, especially when, as in Israel, the duty to
>>report all sources of income apparently does not apply to all citizens.
>>
>>An additional serious legal failure, characteristic of Israel, is the absence
>>of any specific law that forbids the laundering of black capital. In Israel,
>>an offender can always claim that he got his suitcase with money from a new
>>Jewish immigrant. A more sophisticated tax evader can even point to a money
>>transfer made from a foreign currency account of a new immigrant, exempted
>>from tax so long as he is Jewish, to his own account.
>>
>>In Israel a citizen who holds an immigrant certificate, issued on the basis of
>>the “Law of Return,” can enter a bank with a suitcase containing a million
>>dollars and deposit the banknotes in a special account from which he is
>>entitled to draw money for many years. A bank employee who might ask where the
>>money comes from will be satisfied with the answer, “from where I immigrated.”
>>There is no need to prove that this is not laundered Israeli money originating
>>from black business activity, or worse, from criminal activities.
>>
>>In short, Israel is a paradise for black money laundering, local and
>>international. To close this loophole a bill was prepared three years ago
>>forbidding the laundering of capital. There were violent objections and the
>>bill did not even reach the Knesset. Recently, under pressure from the U.S.,
>>which suspects that much of the money laundered in Israel originates in
>>America, and on the initiative of the Ministry of Justice, the bill has
>>returned to the headlines, but has not yet been submitted to the Knesset.
>>
>>Jonathan Welner, U.S. assistant secretary of state for law enforcement,
>>published an article on the issue a week ago. He claims that:
>>
>>Lax bank laws and the exemption of deposits of foreigners from taxes have
>>turned Israel into a paradise for illegal money.
>>
>>
>>Israel is lagging behind in legislation against financial crimes – not only
>>behind Austria and Cyprus, but even behind Lebanon.3
>>
>>
>>A loophole calls for a thief, and in Israel the thief is attracted by several
>>loopholes: The absence of a law against laundering black or criminal capital;
>>the banks not being obliged to keep records on big money transfers; the total
>>absence of agreements with other states for the exchange of information on
>>laundered money; the absence of a control system on the flow of money crossing
>>lsraeli borders or regulations on laundering of capital through other than
>>banks. In short, the Israeli legal authorities have no tools to fight the
>>laundering of black money.
>>The bill prohibiting capital laundering drafted in the state attorney’s office
>>would fill a large share of the loopholes. The Knesset must approve this bill
>>which is backed by the U.S., which will assist Israel in its application. It
>>should be observed that a state without laws that forbid laundering of black
>>money is exposed to serious economic risks.
>>
>>If the bill against laundering black money becomes a law, Israel must
>>establish a center for tax investigations and financial offenses, common to
>>all law enforcement authorities. The establishment of such a center was
>>recommended by the “Shimron Commission” for the liqudation of serious
>>criminality. The report of the commission was published at the beginning of
>>1978. In the summer of 1997, the time has come to implement it.4
>>
>>NOTES (by Prof. Israel Shahak):
>>
>>1. Laundered money reaching Israel is one of the important sources of
>>investments in the Israeli economy.
>>
>>2. The number of Israeli gangsters and their activity has been increasing at a
>>rapid pace during the last 8 to 10 years.
>>
>>3. Three countries notorious for laundering criminal funds.
>>
>>4. There is no hope that any law against laundering black money will be passed
>>because the religious parties will oppose it violently.
>>
>>
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In amove sto anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform arriages
of same sex persons.

This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
illegal. He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
that members of his temple supposedly supported his action. However,
even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.

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On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal.

If his actions are illegal, why don’t the authorities send him to
jail??

>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action. However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.

No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach
>wrote:

>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> By Dr. E. R. Fields

>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>>
>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP
>>
>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>”extermination camp”.
>>
>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>>
>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>
>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>
>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>
>> This brings up the following questions.
>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>>
>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>
>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking.”
>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>
>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>
>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>>
>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>
>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>>
>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>
>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning.”
>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>>
>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>
>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>>
>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>
>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>victims.
>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>>
>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>
>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>
>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>
>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.

From [email protected] Sun Dec 27 14:04:31 EST 1998
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>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach
>>wrote:

>>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>>> By Dr. E. R. Fields

>>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>>actual took place.

>>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP

>>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>>”extermination camp”.
>>>
>>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>>>
>>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>>2.8% in June 1943.
>>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>>
>>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>>
>>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>>
>>> This brings up the following questions.
>>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>>MASS GASSINGS!
>>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>>died from typhus.
>>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>>1946.)
>>>
>>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>>
>>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>>died in his cell.
>>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>>smoking.”
>>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>>
>>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>>
>>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>>>
>>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>>
>>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>>which carry typhus.
>>>
>>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>>
>>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>>burning.”
>>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>>ashes.
>>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>>>
>>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>>
>>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>>>
>>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>>
>>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>>holocaust which never occurred?
>>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>>victims.
>>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>>laws.
>>>
>>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>>
>>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>>
>>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>>
>>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>>Zionist political goals.

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On Sun, 06 Dec 1998 16:08:06 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:50:28 GMT, [email protected]
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:16:58 GMT, sbjarnason wanted to
>>>include the whole article:

>>>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
>>>in 1997?
>>>
>>>The 200,000 refers only to the first 6 months of 1997.
>>>This must have put a major economic drain on the economies of those
>>>cities such as Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton, where Chinese used to
>>>locate.
>>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>>>
>>>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>>>
>>>>The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>>>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>>>
>>>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>>>returns.
>>>
>>>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>>>Income Taxes.
>>>
>>>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>>>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>>>have also closed down many businesses.
>>>
>>>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>>>country.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> [email protected] (Clturnomad) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>>>>> interested in people’s response to the following question:
>>>
>>>>>> In the last few years, there has been a surge of “returnees” to Hong Kong –
>>>>>> people who left the territory to get a foreign passport, and have now
>>>>>> returned. My question is this: Why do Hong Kong people who have emigrated
>>>>>> to, say, Canada or the US, and maybe even spent years living in their new
>>>>>> home, feel the desire to return to Hong Kong? Is there anything about Hong
>>>>>> Kong that is really that much better than the US or Canada?
>>>sven88
>>>
>>>

From [email protected] Sun Dec 27 14:05:38 EST 1998
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:46:32 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!

>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, [email protected] (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:

>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers, refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, [email protected] (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>>
>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>> Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>
>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>> http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>
>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is
>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>> telephone # 204-983-1829
>>
>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won’t Answer!!!!
>>>>>
>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>> http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>> [email protected], or
>>>>> http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>
>> In Message, put first line of message as:
>> ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>> or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>
>> They are waiting for your complaints
>>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won’t Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997 00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit ([email protected])
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> > Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> > 1) What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy’s case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>>> > 2) What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> > letters?
>>
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>>> > 3) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 4) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy’s forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith’s butt.
>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> > 5) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> > 6) Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> > 7) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> > solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone “contributes” more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>Canadian dollars.
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>>>>It’s a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism [email protected]
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken’s “Big Lie”
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B’nai Brith Canada …with the cheque’s memo including “Nizkor
>>>> >Project”. ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation – Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search—Search: “nizkor”
>>
>>>> >”From B’nai Brith’s 1996 ‘Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents’:
>>
>>>>> The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay’s Nizkor Project (https://nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >”Holocaust and Hope” program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic. The creation of a
>>>> >B’nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office.”
>>
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests.
>>
>>>>>That is putting it “lightly”.
>>
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky’s book “By Way of
>>>>>Deception”. Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>>>>[email protected]
>>>>>”http://www.natall.com”
>>>>>”http://www.natvan.com”
>>
>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>Hillsboro, WV 24946
>>
>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail!
>>
>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>[email protected] which contains the
>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com
>>
>>
>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation – Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>Canada!!!
>>
>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>
>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>
>>
>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return…. and see if it comes
>>>>from anthing called “Nizkor,” or claims that it would… won’t that be
>>>>fun, Bill? If you don’t get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>you’ve got me, eh?
>>
>>>>Please print this form and send to:
>>>>The Nizkor Project
>>>>c/o
>>>>The League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada
>>>>xxxxxx Street
>>>>Toronto, Ontario
>>
>>>>Name:________________________________________
>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________
>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>>
>>>>Please make your donations payable to “The League for Human Rights of
>>>>B’nai Brith Canada,” and add the words “Nizkor Trust Fund” to the
>>>>cheque’s memo section.
>>
>>
>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>[#0235903-43-13]
>>
>>

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On Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:25:53 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>From [email protected] Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997

>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500

>>Laura is my kind of gal… she has many a valid point in the following
>>post. In fact, 66 valid points. Don’t know why she
>>didn’t post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..

>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>————————————————

>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews?
>>
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual
>>”survivors.” This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have
>>actually witnessed any “gassing.” There are no contemporaneous documents
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no “human soap,” no lamp shades made
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics.
>>
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the
>>Nazis?
>>
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated
>>”six million” figure is an irresponsible exaggeration.
>>
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that “there were no
>>extermination camps on German soil”?
>>
>>Yes. The famous “Nazi hunter” wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24,
>>1993. He also claimed that “gassings” of Jews took place only in Poland.
>>
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an
>>extermination camp?
>>
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a “gas chamber.” The
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a
>>”gassing” camp.
>>
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used
>>to kill people there?
>>
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large “gas chamber.” After
>>America’s leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities,
>>he stated that it was an “absurdity” to claim that they were, or could
>>have been, used for executions.
>>
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn’t a “death camp,” what was its true purpose?
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as
>>a workforce.
>>
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps?
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called
>>”concentration camps” in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II.
>>
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American “relocation”
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII?
>>
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the
>>basis of race alone.
>>
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps?
>>
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all
>>suspected security risks — not just Jews — were in danger of
>>internment.
>>
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as
>>early as 1933?
>>
>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an
>>international boycott of German goods.
>>
>>11. Did the Jews of the world “declare war on Germany”?
>>
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced “Judea
>>Declares War on Germany.”
>>
>>12. Was this before or after the “death camp” stories began?
>>
>>This was years before the “death camp” stories, which began in
>>1941-1942.
>>
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass
>>civilian bombing?
>>
>>Britain — on May 11, 1940.
>>
>>14. How many “gas chambers” to kill people were there at Auschwitz?
>>None.
>>
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German
>>control during the war?
>>
>>Fewer than six million.
>>
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what
>>happened to them?
>>
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war.
>>
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet
>>Union?
>>
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control.
>>
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting
>>them outside of German reach?
>>
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR).
>>
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant,
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was?
>>
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators
>>later admitted.
>>
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact “confessions” for use at the
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere?
>>
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent “evidence” for
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar “war crimes” trials.
>>
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today?
>>
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders.
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to
>>justify US aid to Israel.
>>
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel?
>>
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in “reparations” Germany has paid
>>to Israel and many individual “survivors.” It is used by the
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling
>>billions of dollars per year.
>>
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen?
>>
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted “Chosen People.”
>>
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists?
>>
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before,
>>during and after the Second World War.
>>
>>25. How does it benefit Britain?
>>
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union.
>>
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of
>>Jews?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps?
>>Hydrocyanic gas from “Zyklon B,” a commercial pesticide that was widely
>>used throughout Europe.
>>
>>28. For what purpose was “Zyklon B” manufactured?
>>
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests.
>>
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination?
>>
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people,
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting
>>fumigation agent.
>>
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with
>>Zyklon B?
>>
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are
>>employed.
>>
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the “gas
>>chambers” to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How
>>do you explain this?
>>
>>It can’t be explained because had they done so they would have suffered
>>the same fate as the “gassing” victims.
>>
>>32. Hoess said in his “confession” that his men would smoke cigarettes
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing.
>>Isn’t Zyklon B explosive?
>>
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false.
>>
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate
>>Jews?
>>
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to “steam
>>chambers,” to “electrocution” machinery. Millions are alleged to have
>>been killed in these ways.
>>
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from
>>those who were scheduled to be killed?
>>
>>It couldn’t have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity
>>propaganda.
>>
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting?
>>They didn’t fight back because they did not believe there was any
>>intention to kill them.
>>
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps?
>>
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000.
>>
>>37. How did they die?
>>
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>>
>>38. What is typhus?
>>
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews
>>might have survived the camps.
>>
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during
>>the Second World War?
>>
>>5,700,000.
>>
>>40. Some Jewish “death camp” survivors say they saw bodies being dumped
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this?
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war.
>>
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
>>
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>>
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one
>>body, according to professional crematory operators?
>>
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further
>>processing afterwards.
>>
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens?
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had
>>died.
>>
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire
>>period such crematories were in operation?
>>
>>About 430,600.
>>
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time?
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day).
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in
>>heavy operation.
>>
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse?
>>
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full.
>>
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what
>>happened to the ashes?
>>
>>That remains to be “explained.” Six million bodies would have produced
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash
>>depositories.
>>
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken
>>during the period when the “gas chambers” and crematoria were supposedly
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination?
>>
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp,
>>nor do they show evidence of the “open pits” in which bodies were
>>allegedly burned.
>>
>>49. What was the main provision of the German “Nuremberg Laws” of 1935?
>>
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews,
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today.
>>
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws?
>>
>>Years before Hitler’s Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races.
>>
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to
>>the “Holocaust” question?
>>
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified.
>>
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews
>>were allegedly being exterminated?
>>
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn’t.
>>
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish
>>extermination program?
>>
>>None.
>>
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate?
>>
>>As early as 1933, Hitler’s government signed an agreement with the
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking
>>large amounts of capital with them.
>>
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>>
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was
>>not gassed.
>>
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine?
>>
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax.
>>
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these
>>faked?
>>
>>Photographs can be faked, but it’s far easier merely to add a misleading
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were “gassed” or
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps
>>toward the end of the war.
>>
>>58. Who originated the term “genocide”?
>>
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944.
>>
>>59. Are films such as “Schindler’s List” or “The Winds of War”
>>documentaries?
>>
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history.
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical
>>representations.
>>
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the
>>standard “Holocaust” story?
>>
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>>
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>>
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business
>>to suffer, and represented “injurious denial of established fact.”
>>
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi?
>>
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There
>>is no correlation between “Holocaust” refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>”neo-Naziism”.
>>
>>63. What has happened to “revisionist” historians who have challenged
>>the Holocaust story?
>>
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions,
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence.
>>
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic
>>freedom?
>>
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>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been
>>overwhelmingly hostile.
>>
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>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story.
>>
>>66. Where can I get more information about the “other side” of the
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War
>>II historical revisionism?
>>
>>The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA
>>92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on
>>significant historical subjects.
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:05:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>I guess the air in SFU makes all the Soviet Jews there braindead.

>Read the following, and perhaps you may learn something about history.

>Copied from old articles in Deja News refernces.

>Isn’t the article below, merely a continuation of the murders
>perpetrated formerly by two of the PM’s of Israel, Yitzhak Shamir and
>his STERN GANG, and then Menachem begin and his IRGUN???

>In other words, murders of innocent civilians is in the old JEW
>tradition???

>On Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:02:08 GMT, [email protected] (Jason Arron
>Black) wrote:
>
>>Date: 7 Mar 1998 08:43:08 -0000
>
>>Qana Massacre
>>by Robert Fisk (London’s The Independent)
>>
>>QANA, SOUTHERN LEBANON — It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and
>>Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The
>>Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their
>>hands or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disemboweled. There
>>were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The
>>Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United
>>Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world’s
>>protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana
>>were wrong.
>
>>In front of a burning building of the UN’s Fijian battalion
>>headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a
>>gray-haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked
>>the corpse back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and
>>crying the same words over and over: “My father, my father.” A
>>Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying
>>a word, held aloft the body of a headless child.
>
>>The Israelis have just told us they’ll stop shelling the area, a
>>UN soldier said, shaking with anger. “Are we supposed to thank
>>them?” In the remains of a burning building — the conference
>>room of the Fijian UN headquarters — a pile of corpses was
>>burning. The roof had crashed in flames onto their bodies,
>>cremating them in front of my eyes. When I walked towards them,
>>I slipped on a human hand …
>
>>Israel’s slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive
>>– 206 by last night — has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that
>>not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the
>>ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the
>>day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile
>>four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had
>>slaughtered a family of 12 — the youngest was a four- day-old
>>baby — when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their
>>home.
>
>>Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250
>>meters from a UN convoy on which I was traveling, blasting a
>>house 30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Traveling back to
>>Beirut to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent
>>last night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian
>>cars on the river bridge north of Sidon.
>
>>Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and
>>Chatila massacre of Palestinians by Israel’s militia allies in
>>1982 doomed Israel’s 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained
>>again by the bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill
>>town where the Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine.
>
>>The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams from
>>the shell-smashed UN compound in which the Shiite Muslims from
>>the hill villages of southern Lebanon — who had heeded Israel’s
>>order to leave their homes — had pathetically sought shelter.
>>Fijian and French soldiers heaved another group of dead — they
>>lay with their arms tightly wrapped around each other — into
>>blankets.
>
>>A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag
>>in which he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people’s arms.
>
>>And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst
>>into the compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre
>>and began to pull the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their
>>mothers and sons and daughters and to shriek Allahu Akbar (God is
>>Great”) and to threaten the UN troops.
>
>>We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but
>>Westerners, Israel’s allies, an object of hatred and venom. One
>>bearded man with fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with
>>fury. “You are Americans,” he screamed at us. “Americans are
>>dogs”. You did this. Americans are dogs.”
>
>>President Bill Clinton has allied himself with Israel in its war
>>against “terrorism,” and the Lebanese, in their grief, had not
>>forgotten this. Israel’s official expression of sorrow was
>>rubbing salt in their wounds. “I would like to be made into a
>>bomb and blow myself up amid the Israelis,” one old man said.
>
>>As for the Hizbollah, which has repeatedly promised that Israelis
>>will pay for their killing of Lebanese civilians, its revenge
>>cannot be long in coming. Operation Grapes of Wrath may then turn
>>out to be all too aptly named.
>
>>Herve de Charette’s face was as white as death. The French
>>Foreign Minister, neatly clad in blue suit and tie, had gingerly
>>walked through the scene of last week’s massacre at the UN’s
>>compound, nodding diplomatically as the UN’s Fijian commander
>>described the 12 minutes in which Israeli shells slaughtered up
>>to 120 refugees, the sliced-up corpses that his soldiers were
>>forced to pick up, the difficulty in identifying parts of the
>>children who had been torn to pieces. Mr. de Charette listened
>>with distaste. But then he was confronted by a survivor.
>
>>Fawzaya Zrir, a small, frail woman in a scarf, simply walked up
>>to the French Foreign Minister and began talking to him with an
>>odd mixture of affection and anger. “For us, France is our mother
>>and God is our father,” she said in a flight of rhetoric that
>>might have been written by the Quai d’Orsay public relations men,
>>who beamed happily at this fortunate encounter.
>
>>Then things began to go wrong. “We have lived through hell,” Mrs.
>>Zrir continued. “The people were chopped into pieces by the
>>Israeli bombs. They bleed, these people. You should have seen the
>>heads.”
>
>>At the French foreign minister’s right, a Lebanese softly
>>translated the woman’s dreadful words. The PR men began to look
>>uneasy. “We have lived here 40 years and now we are treated like
>>animals,” the woman cried. “Do you know what the dogs did at
>>night after the killings? They were hungry and I saw them in the
>>ruins eating fingers and pieces of our people.”
>
>>Mr. de Charette stared at her as if he had seen a ghost. This had
>>clearly not been part of the programme, a schedule that was
>>supposed to have whisked the foreign minister from a light lunch
>>at UN headquarters in Naqqoura to a photo-opportunity on the roof
>>of the wrecked UN battalion HQ, a three-minutes press conference
>>to give the impression of openness and a swift drive back to the
>>coast and a helicopter to Beirut — everything, in fact, that
>>would enhance France’s much-trumpeted love for Lebanon. Reality
>>had very definitely not been part of the programme.
>
>>A UN soldier was quite blunt about it. This place is going to be
>>turned into one of those awful pilgrimage sites for the great and
>>the good,” he muttered. [An accurate predication: the site of
>>this Israeli massacre has become the equivalent of an Arab
>>Holocaust Museum.] “Boutros-Ghali sent his emissaries today
>>to express their horror. But they’ll do no more than they did
>>after Srebrenica. They’ll tut-tut and shrug it off. They won’t
>>even have the guts to condemn Israel even now — for this
>>wickedness.”
>
>>The problem is that neither America nor Europe is going to
>>condemn a country which pounded refugees of Qana with 155mm
>>shells for 12 minutes; and such condemnation is about the only
>>palliative that the Lebanese might accept for the moment.
>
>>And you can see their point. On the coast road back to Beirut
>>last night there were burning cars, civilians deliberately
>>targeted by Israeli warships north of Sidon, three of whom had
>>been badly wounded. Had this being a Syrian warship shelling
>>Israeli civilians on the Haifa-Tel Aviv road, of course, Mr.
>>Clinton himself would have deplored — rightly — an act of
>>”international terrorism.”
>
>>But not a word of criticism about this scandalous targeting of
>>Lebanese civilians was uttered by the foreign ministers of
>>America, Russia, France and Italy as they sought to bring an end
>>to an apparently unstoppable war.
>
>>++++++++++++++
>>American Renaissance
>>http://www.amren.com
>
>>British National Party
>>http://www.bnp.net
>
>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>
>>Katja Lane’s Fourteen Word Press
>>http://www.nidlink.com/~fourteenwords
>
>>National Alliance
>>http://www.natvan.com
>
>>Stormfront
>>http://www.stormfront.org
>
>>Yggdrasil’s White Nationalist Library
>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>
>
>
>On 12 Aug 1998 00:19:32 GMT, [email protected] (Serhiy Makarenko) wrote:
>
>>torres ([email protected]) wrote:
>>: Why do we go overboard in backing the Jews in the
>>: Arab/Jewish conflict?
>>
>>: That is partially the reason, why we are so hated
>>: and have become the targets of outraged Arabs,
>>: who object to the double standard.
>>———–
>>
>>I see, you realy scared by arabs and another muslim terrorists.
>>Sergio
>>
>>

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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue]

> “The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth — An
>Insider’s Expose”

>-or-

>”The Secret Section in Israel’s U.S. Lobby That Stifles American
>Debate”

> by Gregory D. Slabodkin

>During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in
>the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were
>ruined by false charges of “communism” and “treason,” American Jewry
>was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail
>by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the
>percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy’s smear tactics was twice
>that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed
>resolutions condemning McCarthy’s ruthless character assassination.
>
>Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the
>Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith (ADL) and the American Israel
>Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle
>open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
>
>
>Secretly Circulated Lists
>
>
> To Conduct this “neo-McCarthyism,” AIPAC operates a covert section
>within its research department that monitors and keeps files on
>politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish
>liberals, and others it labels “anti-Israel.” AIPAC selects
>information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the
>”guilty,” together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed
>by their statements, often totally out of context.
>
>Just as McCarthy’s permanent investigations subcommittee labeled
>criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as “anti-
>American” or “pro-Soviet,” AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli
>government policies “anti-Israel,” “pro-Arab” or “pro-PLO.” Still
>worse is the pro-Israel lobby’s redefinition of “anti-Semitism” to
>include any such criticism of Israel or its actions.
>
> To date, revelations about AIPAC’s blacklisting and smear tactics
>have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby’s secret
>activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling
>book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront
>Israel’s Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby’s impact
>on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as
>academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within
>AIPAC’s stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only
>surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic
>fact that no longer should be ignored.
>
> AIPAC’s “opposition research” department traces its roots to I.L.
>(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC’s weekly
>_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly
>titled column, “The Monitor.” Besides monitoring, analyzing, and
>responding to “anti-Israel” comment and activities in the United
>States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC’s “enemies.” In his final year
>AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations.
>
> Kenen’s memoirs, _Israel’s Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in
>Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the
>American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to
>create a “truth squad.” Its purpose was to combat “pro-Arab
>propaganda” and the emerging “Arab lobby,” which Kenen believed to be
>a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship.
>
> “While vigorously defending Israel’s perceived interests, the
>organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of
>Jewish thought police,” journalist Robert I. Friedman explains.
>”Investigators — sometimes overzealous Jewish college students,
>sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies — were
>used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they
>might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists,
>politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and
>writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other
>professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of
>anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The
>intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish
>community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind
>would weaken the Jewish state.”
>
> When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December
>1974, the task of monitoring Israel’s “enemies” was left to the
>department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained
>ever since.
>
>
> Monitoring Israel’s “Enemies”
>
>
>Morris Amitay, Kenen’s successor as AIPAC executive director, did not
>follow Kenen’s practice of countering “pro-Arab propaganda” with
>polished editorials in the _Near East Report_. Amitay was more
>concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying
>organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically
>during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of
>intelligence gathering.
>
>Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small,
>dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira.
>”Breira,” the Hebrew word for “alternative,” was organized by a tiny
>group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from
>the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s.
>
>Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the
>subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question
>Israel’s policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day
>War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy
>in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace
>Now movement in Israel.
>
>However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S.
>the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead
>AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by
>discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were
>motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as “anti-
>Israel,” “pro-PLO,” and “self-hating Jews.”
>
>Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC’s _Near East Report_,
>charged that Breira “undermined U.S. support for Israel.” Only one
>prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander
>Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations,
>who called the attack on Breira a “witch hunt.” He was ignored,
>however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set
>the “rules” for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as
>who would be the “enforcer” of these “rules.”
>
>As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political
>Power and American Foreign Policy_: “By attacking Breira, Jewish
>leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel’s most
>loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli
>policies, among Jews as well as gentiles.”
>
>In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual “Who’s
>Who” of “anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing
>important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with
>them in the political arena.” AIPAC photocopied these “enemies lists”
>to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on
>”anti-Israel” forces.
>
>
>AIPAC’s “War for Washington”
>
>
>Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy,
>who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded
>AIPAC’s opposition research. This was part of Dine’s “War for
>Washington,” inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of
>”anti-Israel” organizations in the nation’s capital. AIPAC was
>particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning
>to organize.
>
>In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee
>to monitor Israel’s “enemies.” Goott was recruited from the
>Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, where she had similar duties.
>In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC
>members to send useful information to her in Washington.
>
>In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_,
>coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook’s preface, its
>purpose was to update the activities of “anti-Israel” organizations
>and individuals, and to provide a “more complete and convenient
>analysis of this activity” to “meet the needs of AIPAC members.” Yet,
>despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective
>descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than
>a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics
>of all kinds as “enemies” of Israel. The final chapter, “A Directory
>of the Actors,” profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be
>monitored and discredited whenever possible.
>
>At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit
>
>Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith published its own
>document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and
>Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott’s
>employment by both organizations during the period both publications
>were in preparation.
>
>”The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals
>listed in the B’nai B’rith and AIPAC books is that they are
>’pro-Palestinian’ or ‘pro-PLO,'” Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book,
>_Israel and the American National Interest_. “Pro-Israeli groups have
>succeeded in associating the words ‘Palestinian’ and ‘PLO’ with
>terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent
>of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label
>’pro-PLO.'”
>
>The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S.
>Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony
>Lewis criticized AIPAC’s tactics, particularly the inclusion in its
>”enemies list” of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in
>Boston, as does Lewis.
>
>Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In
>
>its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his
>articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of
>Israel.
>
>”Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion” of
>Khalidi’s views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel’s lobby should
>welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to “smear” it.
>
>In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the
>largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States,
>unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both
>national Jewish organizations to “disavow and refrain from such
>activities” as soliciting “unbalanced information on students, faculty
>and other parties at American campuses” and “listing factually
>inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific
>students, teachers and researchers as ‘pro-Arab propagandists,’ who
>’use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt
>anti-Semitism.'”
>
>When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit
>Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions
>annually.
>
>However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first
>edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of
>”anti-Israel” activities, but disseminated the results secretly.
>
>
> Going Underground
>
>
>AIPAC’s decision to take its opposition research underground coincided
>
>with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb.
>Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department’s Office
>of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the
>Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely
>associated with the pro-Israel lobby.
>
>He is the son of Princeton University “orientalist” Bernard Lewis,
>whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating
>Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people.
>
>Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC’s stealth section,
>innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a “clearing-house”
>for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide
>a “resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else.” He has
>provided negative information both to rival politicians and to
>journalists about prominent individuals whom
>
>
>AIPAC considers to be “anti-Israel.”
>
>
>In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a
>racist brochure mailed to voters in California’s 44th congressional
>district by candidate Randy “Duke” Cunningham’s campaign in the spring
>of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph
>Ghougassian, Cunningham’s Republican primary election opponent, of
>being “bank-rolled by Arab oil interests.” The brochure, featuring a
>photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi,
>asked: “We don’t need a congressman bought and paid for by these
>special interests. Do we?”
>
>What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that
>Cunningham’s campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic
>sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and
>included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA).
>Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen,
>lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC’s support,
>went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress.
>
>Lewis reports that AIPAC also “provided Steve Emerson with information
>
>on Alexander Cockburn.” That followed a heated exchange between
>Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the
>
>editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson
>attacked Cockburn for his “financial agenda.”
>
>”It ought to be remembered,” Emerson wrote, “that several years ago
>Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been
>funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank
>known as the PLO’s bank.”
>
>Emerson’s charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly
>alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984. _The
>Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from
>the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the
>Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them,
>editors of the _Village Voice_ “indefinitely suspended” him due to
>”appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure.”
>
>Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story
>
>as well as Emerson’s attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_.
>Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in
>1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was
>”linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against
>Israel.” In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed
>individual contributors within the United States until it closed down
>in 1983 due to a lack of funds.
>
>Deploring the AIPAC-generated “misinformation,” editor David
>Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: “What
>Cockburn did not do was take money from an ‘Arab propaganda group.’
>Moreover he was not ‘bought’–he clearly received the grant because of
>views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that
>the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports
>to be. And despite the reporter’s clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does
>not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist.
>His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and
>the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested
>parties, is poor journalism.”
>
>Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated
>pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In
>a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: “Among
>all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly
>innocuous… On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs
>should enjoy freedom of speech.”
>
> _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn’s monthly column
>opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in
>cheek, “We hired him because of his biases, which we’re sure are
>totally incorruptible.”
>
>In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of
>Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to
>Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim’s
>reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage
>a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted.
>
>Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to
>which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge
>that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money.
>Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of “Arab money”
>and “petro-dollars,” yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar
>innuendo regarding Jewish financing.
>
>In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze
>the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith
>Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: “For the most part,
>Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid
>being pinned down as ‘anti-Israel.’ She often achieves her goals by
>presenting the views of ‘moderate Israelis’ to state her case.”
>
>In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David
>Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper’s views in its March 25, 1991
>issue:
>
>”Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the
>politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of
>Judith Kipper. It’s not that she’s anti-Israel — her criticism would
>put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party — or that
>she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering
>quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue.”
>
>There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC’s
>strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior
>AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of
>their covert activities. The name change from “Opposition Research” to
>”Policy Analysis” was designed to conceal AIPAC’s surveillance,
>monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990
>internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues
>director, Lewis boasted:
>
>”There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working
>behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that
>impact is not always traceable to us.”
>
>As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has
>created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing
>organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them.
>This AIPAC creation is “Paul Hunt” of “Paul Hunt & Associates.” AIPAC
>rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt’s mail, and has
>installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office.
>”Paul Hunt” has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report
>on Middle East Affairs_.
>
>Secret _Activities_
>
>Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production
>and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which
>disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of
>Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible
>product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to
>hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the
>controversy that arose over its blacklisting of “enemies” in its 1983
>publication of _The Campaign to
>
>
>Discredit Israel_.
>
>
> _Activities_’ select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged
>to use the material as they see fit, “subject only to the provision
>that AIPAC not be attributed as its source.” _Activities_ is
>distributed to AIPAC’s Washington and regional staff, its officers,
>the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and
>Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists
>and academics.
>
>It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other
>Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not
>permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention
>the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC’s walls. A disquieting
>breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the
>American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that
>organization’s president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having
>received an AIPAC study entitled
>
>
>_Activities_.
>
>
>Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to
>Dine: “_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will
>probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is
>nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it
>is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just
>accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of
>these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of
>_Activities_.”
>
>Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National
>Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish
>Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for
>Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish
>Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security
>Affairs (JINSA).
>
>According to Lewis: “Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major
>
>Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures
>that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces
>both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are
>focusing.
>
>Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC,
>_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to
>good advantage.”
>
>One of the ways that this information was “used to good advantage” was
>
>in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused
>Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of “the
>new anti-Semitism” (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him
>with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis
>Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action
>committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations
>attributed to Zogby.
>
>When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name
>
>appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the
>mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording.
>_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990,
>column, “There’s no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish
>Congress’ letter writers went off half-cocked — and without Siegman’s
>knowledge. “It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC’s
>fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC’s _Activities_,
>from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken.
>
>Nor, after publication of Cohen’s article, was it some unnamed “letter
>
>writer” but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC’s Michael Lewis
>for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an
>”anti-Semite.” Lewis faxed an AIPAC “living memo” of Zogby’s
>statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York.
>
>”I hope this information is of help,” Lewis wrote on the cover sheet.
>
>”The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the
>information should not be attributed to AIPAC.”
>
>Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued
>that the AJC letter had “resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy.”
>Hentoff also quoted Zogby’s reaction to his own personal ordeal with
>neo-McCarthyism:
>
>”When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a
>’terrorist member of the PLO’ speaking engagements were canceled,
>political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I
>were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and
>AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence — but
>vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can
>create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur.”
>
>Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his “overzealous
>fund-raisers.”
>
>
> Disingenuous Disclaiming
>
>
>AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken
>against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact,
>it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous
>disclaimer that “the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies
>neither endorsement nor criticism of any group.” By distributing
>derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in
>effect tells pro-Israel activists, “Here are the people who are your
>enemies — now go out and do something about it!”
>
>AIPAC’s Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison
>department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When
>AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an “anti-Israel”
>personality, summaries of that person’s standard arguments,
>question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations
>are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are
>asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC
>also draws up questions for “plants” in the audience, and suggests
>other strategies suited to the particular venue.
>
>Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in
>1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional
>director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th “Conference
>on Peace With Justice in the Middle East” at Mira Costa College,
>arrangements were made to “monitor the conference…have a corps of
>’our’ people in the audience, well-trained and briefed…call a
>meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to
>develop a coordinated strategy…(and provide) background material” on
>the speakers.
>
>Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at
>Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled
>on him: “It’s just like an FBI file — 150 pages of material, clips
>from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up
>at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given,
>characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All
>this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk
>somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who
>will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I
>allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized
>in unsigned pamphlets.”
>
>Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally
>hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that
>AIPAC deems to be “anti-Israel.” Among politicians upon whom such
>files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff
>John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense
>Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter
>and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate
>Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House
>Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John
>Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe
>Rahall, James Traficant and many others.
>
> The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of
>District of Columbia “Shadow Senator” Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC’s
>surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual’s
>professional statements and activities, in Jackson’s case, AIPAC was
>caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS’ “60
>Minutes,” an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed
>generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital
>affairs.
>
>AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as “anti-Israel”
>journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC
>maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan,
>Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis,
>Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among
>others.
>
>Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy’s scouring of Hollywood for
>”communists,” and their “fellow travelers” in the entertainment
>industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen,
>Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra
>Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more.
>
>
>”Have You No Shame?”
>
>
> In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised
>Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch
>stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, “Sir, have you no shame?” Only
>after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as
>intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out,
>did the shadow of “McCarthyism” slowly recede from American public
>life.
>
>Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question
>of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community
>relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the
>hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel
>Fund (NIF).
>
>This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the
>National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC)
>condemning the “McCarthy-like” tactics used by some Jewish
>organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with
>”the right of dissent” on Israeli policies, and emphasized the
>importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of “mutual
>tolerance and civility.” However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe
>groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism
>within more mainstream Jewish organizations.
>
>AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American
>Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the
>climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American
>Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its
>blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the “enemies of Israel.”
>
>Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and
>racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle
>East.
>
>And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute
>toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
>
>[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an
>opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
>(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.]
>
>Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or
>write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009
>
> NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The
>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_. Ask for one! * END
>
>
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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 10:54:46 +0900, Jim O wrote:
>Joseph Hertzlinger wrote:

>> In <[email protected]> Jim O writes:
>> >Joseph Hertzlinger wrote:

>> >Could be. Kings often found jews eager and proficient tax collectors
>> >who would aid them in suppressing the common man. A role that earn
>> >jews the enmity of the masses.

>> 1. We were allowed back in when England was between kings.

>> On the other hand during the four centuries preceding expulsion from
>> Spain, jews were the
>> tax collectors and assessors. Jews purchased the right to “farm” taxes
>> from the crown and
>> exercised that right by determining who was to pay, and how much. The
>> king often got
>> his money up front, and the Jewish tax collector had the power of the
>> crown to enforce
>> their assessment of taxes and on the common man This exploitive role
>> that earned Jews of
>> the period the deserved enmity of the common man. This era is often
>> referred to by jews
>> as a “golden age”. It was an age when Jewish prosperity was at least
>> significantly
>> supplemented by gains derived from through the extraction of tax
>> revenues. Jews were
>> setting the amount of taxes Christian would pay. A system ripe with the
>> potential for
>> exploitive favoritism, prejudice and bigotry to flourish.
>>
>> That role was a significant factor leading to the eventual expulsion of
>> Spain’s Jewish
>> community.
>>
>> Jim6b
>
>

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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:

>>>Translated from Polish:

>>Reprinted from “Polish Weekly” published in Australia.

>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>Morel is accused of “cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>their safety and health.” Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.

>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>detachment of People’s Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>People’s Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>Poland).
>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>journalist John Sack in his book “Eye for an eye” ( for this book John Sack who
>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>big.
>>
>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>again came back to Poland.
>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>He should…..
>>
>>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>>

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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:47:48 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>dejanews had this article, which should be discussed by all thinking
>people.

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 14:13:23 GMT, [email protected] (Doc
>Tavish) wrote:
>>Subject: Communism and Its Sources- Visit This Soviet Archive

>>You must visit:
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html

>>Once there try all “exhibits” but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:

>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html

>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>”The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda — as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC’s
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il’ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military…..”
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>”On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families” (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the ” reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . .”(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish “Bund.” Thus Marxian Communism, modified for
>>expediency, became an instrument for the violent seizure
>>of power. The Communist Jews, together with revolutionaries
>>of Russian stock, were sufficiently numerous to give the
>>venture a promise of success, if attempted at the right
>>time. After the rout of the less violent faction in 1917,
>>when Russia was staggering under defeat by Germany — a
>>year before Germany in turn staggered to defeat under the
>>triple blows of Britain, France, and the United States.
>>
>>Thus under Lenin, whose birth-name was Ulianov and whose
>>racial antecedents are uncertain, and under Leon Trotsky,
>>a Jew, whose birth -name was Bronstein, a small number of
>>highly trained Jews from abroad, along with Russian
>>Judaized Khazan and non-Jewish captives to the Marxian
>>ideology, were able to make themselves masters of Russia.
>>”Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov — played
>>a conspicuous part in the revolution of November, 1917,
>>which enabled the Bolshevists to take possession of the
>>state apparatus” (Univ. Jew. Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here
>>and there in the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia other Jews
>>are named as co-founders of Russian Communism, but not Lenin
>>and Stalin. Both of these, however, are said by some
>>writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial antecedents
>>of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were
>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the
>>Communist movement was well understood in Russia. “The
>>White Armies which opposed the Bolshevik government linked
>>Jews and Bolsheviks as common enemies” (Univ. Jew Encyc.,
>> Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>> ——END OF POST——-
>>
>>
>>Check out this link:
>>
>>http://www.emf.net/~cheetham/kcousm-1.html
>>
>>This is one of the links from above. This is the Spartacist League,
>>which was the Communist group that was waging a take over of Germany
>>during the 1920s. They were Trotskyites! Most of these are from the
>>Oakland and Berkeley areas.
>>
>>http://www.emf.net/~cheetham/gspsue-1.html
>>
>>Here is one of the University’s faculty “speaking” on Communism:
>>
>>http://violet.berkeley.edu/~iir/people/faculty/karabel/index.html
>>
>>Another University praises Ho Chi Minh and the Vietnamese Communist
>>movement and please notice the links back to Berkeley:
>>
>>http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~eemoise/commpre.html
>>
>>A known poster in this news group often uses a quote by Emma Goldman
>>in her sig line. Again using the Marxist infested Berkeley campus
>>resources you can learn of this “Commie Babe Goldman”:
>>
>>http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Goldman/
>>
>>All of the above should give excellent insight as to what major
>>universities are teaching our nation’s youth. If you have been
>>convinced that Communism and its tenants are dead then you
>>have been duped!
>>
>>John Davis
>>
>> ———–END OF POST——–
>>
>>
>>From: John Davis
>>Subject: Communism’s Current State of Affairs!
>>Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:22:58 -0500
>>Organization: None
>>
>>The Soviet and American Communist Parties
>>
>>The Soviet Communist party evolved from the Russian Social Democratic
>>Labor Party’s Bolshevik wing formed by Vladimir Lenin in 1903. Lenin
>>believed that a well-disciplined, hierarchically organized party was
>>necessary to lead the working class in overthrowing capitalism in
>>Russia and the world. In November 1917, the Bolsheviks seized power in
>>St. Petersburg (then called Petrograd)and shortly thereafter began
>>using the term Communist to describe themselves.
>>
>>(The above confirms this:
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then
>>included Lithuania, the Ukraine (A History of the
>>Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University Press,
>>1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders
>>of the Russian Bolshevik party:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on “Communism” by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>The name Bolsheviki means majority (from Russian
>>Bolshe, the larger) and commemorates the fact that at
>>the Brussels-London conference of the party in late
>>1902 and early 1903, the violent Marxist program of
>>Lenin was adopted by a 25 to 23 vote, the less violent
>>minority or “Mensheviki” Marxists fading finally from
>>the picture after Stalin’s triumph in October, 1917.
>>It has been also stated that the term Bolshevik refers
>>to the “larger” or more violent program of the majority
>>faction. After (1918) the Bolsheviki called their
>>organization the Communist Party.)
>>
>>
>>In March 1918, the Bolsheviks named their party the Russian Communist
>>Party (Bolshevik). The next year, they created the Communist
>>International (Comintern) to control the Communist movement throughout
>>the world. After the Comintern’s dissolution in 1943, the Soviet
>>party’s Central Committee continued to use Communist parties from
>>other nations as instruments of Soviet foreign policy. Each national
>>party was required to adhere to the Leninist principle of
>>subordinating members and organizations unconditionally to the
>>decisions of higher authorities.
>>
>>Strongly influenced by the success of the Bolshevik Revolution,
>>American socialists and radicals met in Chicago in 1919 to organize an
>>American Communist party. But the Americans were so divided they
>>created two parties instead. One group consisted primarily of
>>relatively recent Russian and East European immigrants, who emphasized
>>adherence to Marxist orthodoxy and proletarian revolution. The other
>>group, dominated by native-born, somewhat more pragmatic American
>>radicals, sought mass influence. Such conflicting goals combined with
>>the discrepancy between Communist doctrine and American reality, kept
>>the Communist movement in the United States a small sectarian
>>movement.
>>
>>In 1922 the Comintern forced the two American parties, which consisted
>>of about 12,000 members, to amalgamate and to follow the party line
>>established in Moscow. Although membership in the American party rose
>>to about 75,000 by 1938, following the Great Depression, many members
>>left the party after the signing of the Nazi-Soviet Nonaggression Pact
>>
>>of 1939. Others left in 1956 after Nikita Khrushchev exposed some of
>>Stalin’s crimes and Soviet forces invaded Hungary. Only the hard-core
>>members remained after such reversals of Soviet policy. The American
>>party, a significant although never major political force in the
>>United States, became further demoralized when Boris Yeltsin outlawed
>>the Communist party in Russia in August 1991 and opened up the
>>archives, revealing the continued financial as well as ideological
>>dependency of the American Communists on the Soviet party up
>>until its dissolution.
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/party.html
>>
>> * * * * *
>>
>>For those of you that believe Communism is dead (pity you!) Please
>>note that they are very active and have their American branches right
>>in New York City along with their companion Socialist Party! Here are
>>their links:
>>
>>http://www.hartford-hwp.com/cp-usa/index.html
>>
>>http://socialist.org/home.html
>>
>>John Davis
>>
>> ———END OF POST———
>>
>>From: John Davis
>>Subject: M.I.T. Supports “Communism” So Says its Web Site! Are You
>>Paying Attention FBI?
>>Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 19:47:03 -0500
>>Organization: None
>>
>>For another University that is infested with Communism see this M.I.T.
>>site:
>>
>>http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena.mit.edu/user/f/j/fjk/Public/iskra.html
>>
>>You can try this link from the page which is also linked to M.I.T.!
>>
>>http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/fjk/spartacist.html
>>The above is ended with the casual farewell which says:
>>
>>”I wish you success in your Marxist education.”
>>
>>Are you paying attention FBI? Our nation is in far more danger from
>>Communist subversion than from any “Nazis” or “Neo-Nazis!” Please
>>take heed!
>>
>> John Davis
>>
>> ——–END OF POST———
>>
>>Look at this:
>>
>>From: John Davis
>>Subject: Communism Bears Far More Blood Guilt Than Nazism! So Says
>>Berkeley U.
>>Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 19:22:47 -0500
>>Organization: None
>>
>>Please check out this link and see who has spilled more blood in this
>>century. Ask yourself how many Nazis are in power, how many Nazis have
>>seats in any government that now operates. Finally ask yourself this
>>(American citizens and those that are interested in our internal
>>affairs); how many Nazis have spent the night in The White House, had
>>coffee with the Chief Exec, or donated laundered money to his party!
>>
>>Examine very carefully the death tolls that are listed at this site
>>for 20th Century Genocide:
>>
>>http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TCEH/Slouch_power4.html
>>
>>I will try to reproduce some below:
>>
>>Civilians Killed by Governments in the Twentieth Century: Top
>> Twenty Regimes
>>
>>Location (Regime) Deaths Era
>>
>>Soviet Union (Communists) 61,900,000 1917-1990
>>
>>China (Communists) 35,200,000 1949-present
>>
>>Germany (Nazi Third Reich) 20,900,000 1933-1945
>>
>>China (Kuomintang) 10,400,000 1928-1949
>>
>>Japan (Imperial-Fascist) 6,000,000 1936-1945
>>
>>China (Communist Guerrillas) 3,500,000 1923-1948
>>
>>Cambodia (Communists) 2,000,000 1975-1979
>>
>>Turkey (“Young Turks”) 1,900,000 1909-1917
>>
>>Vietnam (Communists) 1,700,000 1945-present
>>
>>North Korea (Communists) 1,700,000 1948-present
>>
>>Poland (Communists) 1,600,000 1945-1948
>>
>>Pakistan (Yahya Khan) 1,500,000 1971
>>
>>Mexico (Porfiriato) 1,400,000 1900-1920
>>
>>Yugoslavia (Communists) 1,100,000 1944-1990
>>
>>Russia (Czarist) 1,100,000 1900-1917
>>
>>Turkey (Mustafa Kemal “Ataturk”)900,000 1918-1923
>>
>>United Kingdom (Constitutional) 800,000 1900-present
>>
>>Portugal (Fascist) 700,000 1926-1975
>>
>>Croatia (Fascists) 700,000 1941-1945
>>
>>Indonesia (Suharto) 600,000 1965-present
>>
>>
>>The top twenty regimes have killed–roughly–
>>156,000,000 civilians in this century.
>>
>>[The majority of the victims being “victims” of Communism!]
>>
>>I hope that all of the above stays in proper format in its
>>journey through the Internet but I gave the site to visit.
>>
>> Doctor Tavish
>>—-
>>Visit the Official Doc Tavish Library at:
>>http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc
>
>
>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>
>
>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism
>
> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>
> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>Archives:
>
>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>
>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>
>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>
>
>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>Government.”
>
>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>Moisei Uritsky.
>
>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>
>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>
>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>
>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>Gordon.
>
>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>were Jews.
>
>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>did not take kindly to it.”
>
>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>
>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>4, 1919)
>
>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>
>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>himself:
>
>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>virtually untouched.
>
>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>
>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>Communist bosses.
>
>Regards,
>Roger Hughes
>
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On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:42:57 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny )
wrote:

>I guess this is just the jew practicing it’s “religion” :
>
>Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
>(“Only ye are designated men”). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the
>sub-head, “Oil of Anointing” and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women
>are designated animals (“she-asses”).
>
>Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a
>Gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty.

No wonder other normal people detest the JEWS!!!!

>>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>>Reprinted from “Polish Weekly” published in Australia.
>>
>>>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>>>Morel is accused of “cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>>>their safety and health.” Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>>>detachment of People’s Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>>>People’s Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>>>Poland).
>>>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>>>journalist John Sack in his book “Eye for an eye” ( for this book John Sack who
>>>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>>>big.
>>>>
>>>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>>>again came back to Poland.
>>>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>>>He should…..
>>>>
>>>>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>>>>

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On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:52:42 +0100, [email protected] (Jacques
Schlesinger) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
>> On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>
>
>I cannot but admire your dedication and only wish it would be put to
>better use.

What in the article did you not understand?

On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:42:57 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny )
wrote:

>I guess this is just the jew practicing it’s “religion” :
>
>Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
>(“Only ye are designated men”). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the
>sub-head, “Oil of Anointing” and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women
>are designated animals (“she-asses”).
>
>Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a
>Gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty.

No wonder other normal people detest the JEWS!!!!

>>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>>Reprinted from “Polish Weekly” published in Australia.
>>
>>>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>>>Morel is accused of “cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>>>their safety and health.” Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>>>detachment of People’s Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>>>People’s Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>>>Poland).
>>>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>>>journalist John Sack in his book “Eye for an eye” ( for this book John Sack who
>>>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>>>big.
>>>>
>>>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>>>again came back to Poland.
>>>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>>>He should…..

>>>>>Translated by Janusz Styber

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On 26 Dec 1998 21:11:49 GMT, [email protected] (HOTTYSHOTT) wrote:
>you are the master of political pollution; why don’t you learn the fact before
>you muddy the waters?

One presumes that the toilet is trying to write in English.

Here is the article he was trying to comd:

On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:23:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>And don’t forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;

>And don’t forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q’ana
>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.

>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
> wrote:
>>[email protected] wrote:

>>> And don’t forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>> gangster!!!

>>Zionist terrorist acts from 1939-1996 – part I
>>
>>1939
>>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of
>>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.
>>
>>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses,
>>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of
>>killing people on buses.
>>
>>Nov.25, 1940
>>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish
>>immigrants.
>>
>>Nov. 6 1944
>>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the
>>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
>>
>>July 22, 1946
>>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central
>>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and
>>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this
>>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish
>>Agency were involved.
>>
>>October 1, 1946
>>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun
>>cliam responsibility.
>>
>>June 1947
>>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.
>>
>>September 3, 1947
>>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting
>>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The
>>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8
>>
>>December 11, 1947
>>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab
>>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed
>>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.
>>
>>Dec. 13 1947
>>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and
>>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown
>>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab
>>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack
>>with mortars and automatic weapons.
>>
>>Dec. 19, 1947
>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the
>>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah
>>admitted responsibility for the attack.
>>
>>Dec. 29, 1947
>>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus
>>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.
>>
>>Dec. 30, 1947
>>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the “Carmel Brigade” attacked the village
>>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
>>
>>1947-1948
>>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in
>>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation
>>for their property. After their expolsion, the “Zionist Israel terrorist Armies”
>>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands
>>oblitrated their remains. These Are “The GOD Chosen People” who commit murder in the
>>name of Judiasm.
>>
>>January 1, 1948
>>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs
>>were killed and 33 were wounded.
>>
>>January 4, 1948
>>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa
>>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a
>>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding
>>98 others.
>>
>>January 5, 1948
>>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among
>>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this
>>outrage.
>>
>>January 7, 1948
>>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them
>>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer
>>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.
>>
>>Jan. 16, 1948
>>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of
>>18 month and 12 years, died.
>>
>>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing
>>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses.
>>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding
>>161 others.
>>
>>Feb. 15 1948
>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses,
>>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
>>
>>March 3, 1948
>>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of
>>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped
>>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3
>>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the
>>crime.
>>
>>March 22, 1948
>>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100
>>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive
>>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.
>>
>>March 31, 1948
>>
>>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an
>>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60
>>others.
>>
>>April 9, 1948
>>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the
>>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed
>>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and
>>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than
>>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
>>
>>April 16, 1948
>>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs
>>there.
>>
>>April 19 1948
>>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist
>>terrorist Jews.
>>
>>May 11, 1948
>>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine,
>>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
>>
>>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and
>>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could,
>>destroying what they could not take with them.

>>Sept. 17 1948
>>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by memeber of the
>>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte’s aide
>>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.

>>Nov. 1948
>>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring
>>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly
>>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial
>>state of zionist Israel.

>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On 26 Dec 1998 19:35:03 GMT, [email protected] (DonJose) wrote:

>>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Does the law in Canada ban it?

Under the laws of Canada, only a marriage of humans of different sex
is legal.

Canada is not yet as depraved as Sodom!!!!

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:53:15 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml

>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>22May98

>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??

>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World

>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>Art-Smuggling ‘Red Mafia’

>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>
>>
>>>In two posh villas outside the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>terrified victims. The mob’s young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>
>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>as New Zealand.
>>>
>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a 52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>”Brainy Don”–he holds an economics degree from the University of
>>>Lvov–and until now, he has never been exposed by the media. But the
>>>Voice has obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and Israeli
>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and these documents–as well
>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>law enforcement sources here and abroad–describe him as someone who
>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>
>>>”He’s the most powerful mobster in the world,” crows Monya Elson, who
>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich’s closest
>>>associates and partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>known as Monya’s Brigada, is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>Center in lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>extortions.
>>
>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive money-laundering scheme in
>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>perestroika.
>>>
>>>”If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,” boasted
>>>Elson. ”I lived with him. I’m his partner, don’t forget. We are very,
>>>very close friends. I don’t mean close, I mean very, very close. He’s my
>>>best friend.” Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>
>>>Allegations of Mogilevich’s devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow’s
>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ”smugglers’ paradise,” says
>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>Mogilevich’s apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>against terrorism.
>>>
>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>Germany, including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>anonymity.
>>>
>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>Mogilevich’s chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich’s man from L.A. said the Red
>>>Mafia would dispose of the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>”probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,”
>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>reached an agreement with the leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of art
>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich’s operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ”restoration.”
>>>Mogilevich’s men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to an unwitting
>>>Sotheby’s auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>as well as other ”restored” objects back to Moscow.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH’S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of the same
>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>
>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>assets–rubles, furniture, and art–cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ”hard”
>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>profits.
>>>
>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum import-export company, Arbat
>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners–with a
>>>quarter share of the company–was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>in upstate New York.
>>>
>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received Israeli
>>>citizenship. He ”succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel” and
>>>”developing significant and influential [political] ties,” says an
>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and Kiev–called the
>>>”Black and White Clubs”–that has become one of the world’s foremost
>>>centers of prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI documents. The Black
>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich’s operations. He
>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization, in the mode of
>>>a traditional American mafia family. Indeed, many of the organization’s
>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>
>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary’s arms industry.
>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>
>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>
>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>the London branch of Banque Francaise De L’orean.
>>>
>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>established in 1991 by two Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>industry, who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>
>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>Israel.
>>>
>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn’t sustain his empire
>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>documented example of a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>Mogilevich’s top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>
>>>In Europe and Russia, the ”corruption of police and public officials
>>>has been part of the Semion Mogilevich Organization’s modus operandi,”
>>>says a classified FBI document. ”The corruptive influence of the
>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking information for use in the
>>>Russian political campaign.” An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence. Mogilevich also paid
>>>off a Russian judge to secure Vyacheslav Ivankov’s early release from a
>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>according to U.S. court records and classified FBI documents.
>>>
>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>contract with Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian mob.
>>>The charges were made by several sources, including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>highly regarded Belgium police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND, police in Belgium,
>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>investigate the ”Brainy Don.” If the television report is accurate,
>>>one possible motive for BND’s deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ”pulled their people
>>>out of Moscow because they didn’t like the level of cooperation they
>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the Russian mob.”
>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>their rivals.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH’S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>says a classified FBI report. He has set up companies in Los
>>>Angeles–FNJ Trade Management–and Newton, Pennsylvania–YBM Magnex
>>>International–as well as dozens of shell companies, which have
>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>Mogilevich’s financial operations.
>>>
>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of the organized-crime
>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI, IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM’s
>>>offices in Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with Canadian and
>>>U.S. police citing the company’s alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>crime. YBM is publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and two
>>>days before Friday’s raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>
>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>out why the INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he’s on the department’s
>>>watch list of international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson and Ivankov.
>>>
>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of one of the most
>>>ruthless organized-crime families in recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>”We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>this stuff.” He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn’t believe them.
>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>
>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in a New York
>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>the first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of money controlled
>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved through a mafia-controlled
>>>bank in Chelsea.) Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star Viennese hotel,
>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich’s organization and has arranged contract
>>>killings here, supplying the weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>government’s charges, and that they are ”total bullshit.” Although he
>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich’s son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg’s business card identified his
>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>released.
>>>
>>>Oleg’s uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>New York City, arrived in the Big Apple after having survived a
>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>though Vladimir Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>Russian mob.
>>>
>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ”He also ingratiates himself
>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>groups’ activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good citizen,”
>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with his strong leadership
>>>qualities, his acute financial skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>associates, and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far made
>>>the ”Brainy Don” impervious to prosecution.
>>>
>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach
>wrote:

>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> By Dr. E. R. Fields

>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>>
>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP
>>
>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>”extermination camp”.
>>
>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>>
>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>
>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>
>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>
>> This brings up the following questions.
>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>>
>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>
>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking.”
>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>
>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>
>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>>
>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>
>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>>
>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>
>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning.”
>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>>
>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>
>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>>
>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>
>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>victims.
>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>>
>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>
>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>
>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>
>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.

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On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:52:42 +0100, [email protected] (Jacques
Schlesinger) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
>> On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>
>
>I cannot but admire your dedication and only wish it would be put to
>better use.

What in the article did you not understand?

On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:42:57 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny )
wrote:

>I guess this is just the jew practicing it’s “religion” :
>
>Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
>(“Only ye are designated men”). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the
>sub-head, “Oil of Anointing” and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women
>are designated animals (“she-asses”).
>
>Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a
>Gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty.

No wonder other normal people detest the JEWS!!!!

>>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>>Reprinted from “Polish Weekly” published in Australia.
>>
>>>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>>>Morel is accused of “cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>>>their safety and health.” Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>>>detachment of People’s Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>>>People’s Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>>>Poland).
>>>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>>>journalist John Sack in his book “Eye for an eye” ( for this book John Sack who
>>>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>>>big.
>>>>
>>>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>>>again came back to Poland.
>>>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>>>He should…..

>>>>>Translated by Janusz Styber

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On 26 Dec 1998 19:35:03 GMT, [email protected] (DonJose) wrote:

>>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Does the law in Canada ban it?

Under the laws of Canada, only a marriage of humans of different sex
is legal.

Canada is not yet as depraved as Sodom!!!!

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On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:57:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>And don’t forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>gangster!!!
>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin’s participation in war crimes
>>>>>
>>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>>
>>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook “to
>>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts.” A Signatory may
>>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world’s
>>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States’ legal obligations to do so.
>>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>>1977, as ‘grave breaches’, the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>>prosecute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>>
>>>>>”1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately.” The order was signed “Yitzhak
>>>>>R[abin].”
>>>>>
>>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>>”The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949″ by Israeli
>>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo’s book “The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland”, Quartet Books,
>>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>>
>>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin’s implication in
>>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin’s orders. As a prelude to
>>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile’. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>>planned ‘transfer’ policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>>master plan of “ethnical cleansing”.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as ‘war crimes’.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>> of their Inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>>prohibit “at any time and in any place whatsoever….collective
>>>>>punishments”. It seems that the destruction of these villages – every
>>>>>single house in them – constitutes ‘collective punishment’ within the
>>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>> Youngsters
>>>>>
>>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by “force, might,
>>>>>beatings”. More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha’aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin’s role in these
>>>>>policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) “inhuman treatment….wilfully
>>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health”. Protocol I
>>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>>the acts which remain “prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:”: “Violence to
>>>>>the….physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular….(iii)
>>>>>corporal punishment.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>> Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin’s war:
>>>>>”Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>>southern Lebanon. (…) Rabin’s War – Operation Accountability – has killed
>>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>>Beirut. (…) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(…) About
>>>>>80 villages have been hit.”. According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the “majority of casualties were
>>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>>around 100,000.”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was “expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon ‘uninhabitable’ and to create a
>>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel’s will (…)”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), “some 400,000
>>>>>people – mainly Shi’ite Muslims – fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>>specifies as a ‘grave breach’ (war crime) “making the civilian population
>>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack” as well as “launching an
>>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects”. Further details are provided
>>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a ‘grave breach’ of international
>>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>>
>>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>>
>>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>>
>>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>>their country’s sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>>
>>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Rabin’s Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>>
>>>>>As to Mr. Rabin’s personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>>and 1967).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>>”to break the bones” of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by “force, might, beatings” and
>>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel’s Prime
>>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin’s primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>>described as ‘war crimes’ as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of ‘war crimes’, as committed in World
>>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>>Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>>the “deportation … for any … purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>>occupied territory” as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>>”deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>>population….when such acts are done….in connection with any crime
>>>>>against peace or any war crime”, as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>>process of law to determine a defendant’s culpability and punishment). The
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes ‘corporal punishment’, although not as
>>>>>a ‘grave breach’. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the ‘grave
>>>>>breaches’ (war crimes), if such attacks were committed “wilfully, in
>>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>>serious injury to body or health”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>>then, state:
>>>>>
>>>>>”The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law”
>>>>>(Principle III. “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him”.
>>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>>
>>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>>such reservations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived – legally – by
>>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today’s world, it
>>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>>circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Human rights’ and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin’s
>>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:30:39 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:19:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:48:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>>>>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>>>>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>>>>role model???

>>>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:

>>>>> Positive Jewish role models

>>>>> Alan Silver.. wrote:

>>>>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant. Whatever
>>>>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>>>>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>>>>> > — crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>>>>> > whatever.
>>>>> =========
>>>>> Dear Alan,

>>>>> Thank you for your email. I am posting your letter, while removing your
>>>>> signature.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>>>>> Yes, it is hardly significant. The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>>>>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>>>>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>>>>> Ukrainians and Germans. We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>>>>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.

>>>>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>>>>> and admire Jewish achievements world over. (And yes I am jelous of it
>>>>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>>>>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)

>>>>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>>>>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>>>>> martyrology. The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>>>>> by Israeli archeologists. It is about the time that the mythical parts
>>>>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>>>>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>>>>> helping Jews.

>>>>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>>>>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.

>>>>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>>>>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>>>>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>>>>> a barn on July 11, 19941.

>>>>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>>>>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.

>>>>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>>>>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>>>>> many others. My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>>>>> Rubin.
>>>>> ————
>>>>> Jozef pawlikowski

>>>>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI >>>>> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>>>>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>>>>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM

>>>>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>>>>> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>>>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>>>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>>>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>>>> > > > |> education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

>>>>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>>>> > > > |> of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>>>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>>>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>>>> > > > |> closed.

>>>>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>>>> > > > |longer or die now!

>>>>> > > > Herman
>>>>> > > > Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian, Polack,
>>>>> > > > Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>>>>> > > > guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian, and
>>>>> > > > other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish community
>>>>> > > > not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals, unless
>>>>> > > > they happen to be jews.

>>>>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>>>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!

>>>>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>>>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.

>>>>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>>>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>>>> > > > |> Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>>>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>>>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>>>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.

>>>>> > > > What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>>>>> > > > there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label them
>>>>> > > > with any nationality?

>>>>> > > > –Rostyk
>>>>> > > ===============
>>>>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>>>>> > > Research costs $$$. Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>>>>> > > starters.

>>>>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews. I can make out
>>>>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>>>>> > > J

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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, [email protected] (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin’ were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin’ is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong – please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I’ve find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>”Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin’s orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis.
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments.
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin’s order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the “Katyn Massacre”.
>>
>>(…)
>>
>>………………………………………
>>
>>
>> Pawel Jedrzejewski [email protected]

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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, [email protected] (Real Name:)
>wrote:
>>————Reply Separator—————-
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message
>><[email protected]>, NSWPP
>> wrote:

>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998

>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi
>>death camp of Auschwitz.

>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.

>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups.

>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,”
>>she added.

>>But even if the government quickly secures an
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.

>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ

>>At issue is the definition of what activity is
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent,
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near
>>the site.

>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity
>>of the complex.

>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.

>>A discreet deal between the government and an
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a
>>nationalist uproar.

>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.

>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.

>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.

>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be
>>negotiated.

>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”

>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec,
>>“But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”

>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE

>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.

>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.

>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less
>>frequently.

>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by
>>the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs,
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the
>>extermination campaign.

>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”

>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are
>>also on the agenda.

>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,”
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.

>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating
>>dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.

>>But officials accept that, despite good will and
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.

>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a
>>leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.

>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

>-88-

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On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:22:42 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>This story, documented by a well respected Jewish writer, was carried
>in many other newspapers across Canada.

>The Zionist murderers are angry that it was written by a Jew, to tell
>the TRUTH for a change!!!

>On 17 Dec 1998 08:05:54 GMT, “Koshercook”
>wrote:

>>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust

>>[How the High Jews in the Soviet Government Killed Millions in the USSR and
>>Still Hide It From Us…]

>>Archived for Scholarly Study

>>From the Toronto Sun – December 13, 1998

>>By ERIC MARGOLIS Contributing Foreign Editor

>>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show trial of
>>that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the 65th
>>anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly ignored. Leftists
>>now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be reminded of the Unknown
>>Holocaust.

>>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine. Stalin
>>determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent farmers – called
>>kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush Ukraine’s
>>growing spirit of nationalism.

>>Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed terror and
>>dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from Moscow – earlier
>>versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian peasants into
>>collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began selective executions of
>>recalcitrant farmers.

>>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, OGPU
>>was ordered to begin mass executions.

>>But there were simply not enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many
>>people, so Stalin decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of
>>death – mass starvation.

>>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were confiscated from
>>Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam used
>>the same method in the 1970s to force collectivization: the resulting famine
>>cased one million deaths.)

>>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail lines. Nothing
>>came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and looted of food and fuel.
>>Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, cold and sickness.

>>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent henchman Lazar
>>Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. Kaganovitch, the Soviet
>>Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of
>>all Ukrainian intellectuals were executed. A Ukrainian party member named
>>Nikita Khruschchev helped supervise the slaughter.

>>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created by Kaganovitch
>>and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, boots and belts, plus
>>bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant children.

>>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s custom-made famine and
>>Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. The KGB’s archives, and
>>recent work by Russian historians, show at least seven million died.
>>Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine million, or higher. Twenty-five
>>percent of Ukraine’s population was exterminated. Millions of victims

>>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during
>>collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million
>>peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia,
>>Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in the USSR;
>>massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial genocide
>>accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war
>>dead. Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish.
>>The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes
>>and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and
>>Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both
>>communism and their suffering. As a direct result, during the subsequent
>>Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region’s innocent Jews became the
>>target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of Europe’s Jews by
>>the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger holocaust in Ukraine has been
>>suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler
>>began the Jewish Holocaust, and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before
>>the world’s gaze. But Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or
>>concealed by a left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day.
>>In the strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb and PM
>>Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 and proclaimed
>>reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not see one
>>under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent Walter
>>Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting, wrote claims of
>>famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million people were dying around
>>them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New York Times has never repudiated
>>Duranty’s lies.

>>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and historical
>>roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime – the inevitable
>>result of enforced social engineering and Marxist theology.

>>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the governments of
>>Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the Ukrainian genocide and
>>Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they eagerly welcomed him as an ally
>>during World War II. Stalin, who Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,”
>>murdered four times more people than Adolf Hitler.

>>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were ever brought
>>to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a few years ago,
>>still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and enjoying a generous state
>>pension.

Even honest Jews are finally realising the truth about the genocides
of their compatriots!!!

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On Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:41:06 -0800, wawrzek
wrote:

>Most people do not want to believe this, as much as they did not want to believe
>Clinton lied. They think of the Jew as righteous and as chosen. I have dealt with
>Jews for many years, and I can tell you that they are capable of ANYTHING.
>Believe me, I have seen them do things that the average person would not believe. And
>in each and every case, it was for the buck. The true God of Jews is the Almighty
>dollar and I defy anyone to dispute that.

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:39:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>> >Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught dealing drugs – this
>> >time inside a prison!!!

>> >Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>> >Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>> >balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>> >
>> >He is a former head of the “who’s Who in canadian Jewry”, and has been
>> >a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>> >>Christ.
>> >
>> >>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>> >>business.
>> >>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>> >>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>> >
>> >>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>> >>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>> >>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>> >>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>> >>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>> >>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>> >>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>> >>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>> >——————————————————————————
>> >2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>> >
>> >By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>> >
>> >NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>> >rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>> >launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>> >narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>> >synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn.
>> >
>> >The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>> >together a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York
>> >representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>> >purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>> >ties to a close-knit Jewish community.
>> >
>> > At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>> >of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>> >modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>> >American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>> >Colombian drug lords.
>> >
>> >”Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>> >traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>> >conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary
>> >Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>> >announcing the charges.
>> >
>> >Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>> >Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>> >Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>> >before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>> >to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>> >5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>> >federal cash-transaction reporting requirements.
>> >
>> >Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>> >320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>> >released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>> >complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>> >custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>> >the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case.
>> >
>> >Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>> >court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>> >charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>> >taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>> >synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>> >writing checks to drug traffickers.
>> >
>> >Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>> >name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>> >Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>> >than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>> >transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996.
>> >
>> >Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>> >have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>> >Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>> >drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>> >– the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>> >requirement — through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>> >and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location.
>> >
>> >The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>> >listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>> >people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>> >about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>> >Shel Shulem.
>> >
>> >The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>> >front and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in
>> >Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz
>> >Family of Mexico Building.”
>> >
>> >In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>> >were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>> >would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>> >named in the federal complaint.
>> >
>> >The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>> >Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>> >– began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>> >withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>> >various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>> >officials said.
>> >
>> >With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>> >techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>> >which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>> >deposits and withdrawals — transactions, they said, that let the
>> >conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits.
>> >
>> >Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>> >Monday’s complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>> >of them — Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>> >Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to
>> >have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>> >launder.
>> >
>> >The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>> >Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>> >and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>> >and stashed the money at an apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>> >
>> >There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>> >later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>> >Shulem.
>> >
>> >Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made
>> >out to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,”
>> >the federal complaint said.
>> >
>> >Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>> >formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>> >Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>> >laundered money and divided among the intermediaries.
>> >
>> >Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>> >community came into contact with professional money launderers and
>> >drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>> >Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>> >a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>> >================================================================================
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>> >——————————————————————————–
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>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:03:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach
>>wrote:

>>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>>> By Dr. E. R. Fields

>>> The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>>world’s sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>>actual took place.

>>> NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON’T ADD UP

>>> The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>>population for that year amounted “to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine.”
>>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>>> With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>>holocaust “survivors” had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>>that in the Jews real “bible”, The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>>> The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>>having been put to death “in the gas chambers of Auschwitz.”
>>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>>these figures which today are accepted as “gospel truth”.
>>> It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>>”extermination camp”.
>>>
>>> HIMMLER-“REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS”
>>>
>>> Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that “The death rate in the
>>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs.” (Source,
>>>Reitlinger’s book, “The Final Solution.”)
>>> The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler’s
>>>order on Jan 20, 1943, “Every means will be used to lower the
>>>death rates.” (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>>> On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>>in the “shockingly high mortality figures.” (Source: Nuremberg
>>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>>2.8% in June 1943.
>>> The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of “extermination?”
>>> With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>>”Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>>Criminals”. It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>>
>>> THE PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>>
>>> In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>>states in the paper, “Books and Bookmen”, April 1975, page 5,
>>>”No gassing took place in any camp on German soil.”
>>> The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>>
>>> This brings up the following questions.
>>> 1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>>> 2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>>MASS GASSINGS!
>>> 3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>>died from typhus.
>>> 4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>>the response was always the same, “The detainees themselves have
>>>not spoken of them.” (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>>1946.)
>>>
>>> FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>>
>>> Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such “confessions” are about
>>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>>1936. The communists wrote the “Confession’ and Hoess signed it.
>>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>>died in his cell.
>>> Hoess statement read, “half an hour after having released the
>>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>>smoking.”
>>> Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not “ventable”. The manufacturers state
>>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>>workers ran into the gas chamber “eating and smoking” – without
>>>gas masks – only minutes after the gassing – IF THIS OCCURRED
>>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>>
>>> GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>>
>>> The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, “The Capture and Trial
>>>of Adolph Eichmann” pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>>”became immediately gaseous.”
>>> The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: “We know of
>>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air.”
>>>
>>> CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>>
>>> Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), “We knew when the people
>>>were dead because their screaming stopped.” If anyone were
>>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>>which carry typhus.
>>>
>>> THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>>
>>> At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT’S ALL! In these three
>>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>>ovens were very small with only 18′ doors and a time period of
>>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>>> A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>>William L. Shirer’s book, “The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>>Reich.” It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company’s ovens.
>>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>>> “The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>>burning.”
>>> WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>>> On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people – this would
>>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>>ashes.
>>> It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>>could be found. The official answer was that it was “taken to
>>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!”
>>>
>>> WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>>
>>> Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>>1967. “It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>>systematic extermination in those camps.”
>>> Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: “I was at
>>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there.”
>>> Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>>”The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie – the
>>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time.”
>>> Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. “The
>>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.”
>>>
>>> WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>>
>>> Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>>holocaust which never occurred?
>>> Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, “Not
>>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists.”
>>> S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, “The
>>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>>will cowtow to the Jews.”
>>> Zionist spokesmen often boast of: “The shattering effect of
>>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews.”
>>> Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>>condemned as being “anti-Semitic” and “insensitive” to holocaust
>>>victims.
>>> The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>>laws.
>>>
>>> A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>>
>>> The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>>38 years. When they don’t use the holocaust the money collection
>>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>>
>>> HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>>
>>> Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>>Zionist political goals.

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On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:04:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>In a move sure to anger orthodox Jews, as well as normal humans, newspapers
>across Canada report that a Winnipeg synagogue will perform marriages
>of same sex persons.

>This, even though there is no law in Canada permitting this!!!

>Rabbi Michael Levenson of Temple Shalom admits that his actions are
>illegal.

If his actions are illegal, why don’t the authorities send him to
jail??

>He is quoted as saying that his ceremonies will be recognised
>from a religious point of view, not a political one. Levenson alleges
>that members of his temple supposedly supported his action. However,
>even normal Jews are criticising this action. It seems that what this
>Jew is doing, is NOT acceptable, according to the Torah.

No wonder people think of the jews as mainly sodomites.

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:53:15 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml

>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>22May98

>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??

>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World

>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>Art-Smuggling ‘Red Mafia’

>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>
>>
>>>In two posh villas outside the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>terrified victims. The mob’s young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>
>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>as New Zealand.
>>>
>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a 52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>”Brainy Don”–he holds an economics degree from the University of
>>>Lvov–and until now, he has never been exposed by the media. But the
>>>Voice has obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and Israeli
>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and these documents–as well
>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>law enforcement sources here and abroad–describe him as someone who
>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>
>>>”He’s the most powerful mobster in the world,” crows Monya Elson, who
>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich’s closest
>>>associates and partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>known as Monya’s Brigada, is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>Center in lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>extortions.
>>
>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive money-laundering scheme in
>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>perestroika.
>>>
>>>”If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,” boasted
>>>Elson. ”I lived with him. I’m his partner, don’t forget. We are very,
>>>very close friends. I don’t mean close, I mean very, very close. He’s my
>>>best friend.” Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>
>>>Allegations of Mogilevich’s devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow’s
>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ”smugglers’ paradise,” says
>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>Mogilevich’s apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>against terrorism.
>>>
>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>Germany, including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>anonymity.
>>>
>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>Mogilevich’s chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich’s man from L.A. said the Red
>>>Mafia would dispose of the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>”probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,”
>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>reached an agreement with the leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of art
>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich’s operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ”restoration.”
>>>Mogilevich’s men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to an unwitting
>>>Sotheby’s auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>as well as other ”restored” objects back to Moscow.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH’S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of the same
>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>
>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>assets–rubles, furniture, and art–cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ”hard”
>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>profits.
>>>
>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum import-export company, Arbat
>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners–with a
>>>quarter share of the company–was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>in upstate New York.
>>>
>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received Israeli
>>>citizenship. He ”succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel” and
>>>”developing significant and influential [political] ties,” says an
>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and Kiev–called the
>>>”Black and White Clubs”–that has become one of the world’s foremost
>>>centers of prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI documents. The Black
>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich’s operations. He
>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization, in the mode of
>>>a traditional American mafia family. Indeed, many of the organization’s
>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>
>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary’s arms industry.
>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>
>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>
>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>the London branch of Banque Francaise De L’orean.
>>>
>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>established in 1991 by two Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>industry, who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>
>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>Israel.
>>>
>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn’t sustain his empire
>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>documented example of a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>Mogilevich’s top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>
>>>In Europe and Russia, the ”corruption of police and public officials
>>>has been part of the Semion Mogilevich Organization’s modus operandi,”
>>>says a classified FBI document. ”The corruptive influence of the
>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking information for use in the
>>>Russian political campaign.” An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence. Mogilevich also paid
>>>off a Russian judge to secure Vyacheslav Ivankov’s early release from a
>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>according to U.S. court records and classified FBI documents.
>>>
>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>contract with Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian mob.
>>>The charges were made by several sources, including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>highly regarded Belgium police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND, police in Belgium,
>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>investigate the ”Brainy Don.” If the television report is accurate,
>>>one possible motive for BND’s deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ”pulled their people
>>>out of Moscow because they didn’t like the level of cooperation they
>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the Russian mob.”
>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>their rivals.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH’S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>says a classified FBI report. He has set up companies in Los
>>>Angeles–FNJ Trade Management–and Newton, Pennsylvania–YBM Magnex
>>>International–as well as dozens of shell companies, which have
>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>Mogilevich’s financial operations.
>>>
>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of the organized-crime
>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI, IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM’s
>>>offices in Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with Canadian and
>>>U.S. police citing the company’s alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>crime. YBM is publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and two
>>>days before Friday’s raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>
>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>out why the INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he’s on the department’s
>>>watch list of international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson and Ivankov.
>>>
>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of one of the most
>>>ruthless organized-crime families in recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>”We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>this stuff.” He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn’t believe them.
>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>
>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in a New York
>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>the first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of money controlled
>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved through a mafia-controlled
>>>bank in Chelsea.) Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star Viennese hotel,
>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich’s organization and has arranged contract
>>>killings here, supplying the weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>government’s charges, and that they are ”total bullshit.” Although he
>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich’s son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg’s business card identified his
>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>released.
>>>
>>>Oleg’s uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>New York City, arrived in the Big Apple after having survived a
>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>though Vladimir Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>Russian mob.
>>>
>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ”He also ingratiates himself
>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>groups’ activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good citizen,”
>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with his strong leadership
>>>qualities, his acute financial skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>associates, and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far made
>>>the ”Brainy Don” impervious to prosecution.
>>>
>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.

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On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:16:26 -0800, [email protected] (“Expat
Authority”) wrote:

>What are you trying to achieve by posting all these
>anti-Jewish messages? What is your purpose?

>Jewish people in your country are local citizens.

> There are bad people among them,
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It seems that he must either be one of the foul jews, or similar??

This story, documented by a well respected Jewish writer, was carried
in many other newspapers across Canada.

The Zionist murderers are angry that it was written by a Jew, to tell
the TRUTH for a change!!!

On 17 Dec 1998 08:05:54 GMT, “Koshercook”
wrote:

>Remembering Ukraine’s Unknown Holocaust

>[How the High Jews in the Soviet Government Killed Millions in the USSR and
>Still Hide It From Us…]

>Archived for Scholarly Study

>From the Toronto Sun – December 13, 1998

>By ERIC MARGOLIS Contributing Foreign Editor

>As Britain’s socialist government cleared the way for a gaudy show trial of
>that Great Satan of the left, Chile’s Gen. Augusto Pinochet, the 65th
>anniversary of this century’s bloodiest crime was utterly ignored. Leftists
>now baying for Pinochet’s head don’t want to be reminded of the Unknown
>Holocaust.

>In 1932, Soviet leader Josef Stalin unleashed genocide in Ukraine. Stalin
>determined to force Ukraine’s millions of independent farmers – called
>kulaks – into collectivized Soviet agriculture, and to crush Ukraine’s
>growing spirit of nationalism.

>Faced by resistance to collectivization, Stalin unleashed terror and
>dispatched 25,000 fanatical young party militants from Moscow – earlier
>versions of Mao’s Red Guards – to force 10 million Ukrainian peasants into
>collective farms. Secret police units of OGPU began selective executions of
>recalcitrant farmers.

>When Stalin’s red guards failed to make a dent in this immense number, OGPU
>was ordered to begin mass executions.

>But there were simply not enough Chekists (secret police) to kill so many
>people, so Stalin decided to replace bullets with a much cheaper medium of
>death – mass starvation.

>All seed stocks, grain, silage and farm animals were confiscated from
>Ukraine’s farms. (Ethiopia’s Communist dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam used
>the same method in the 1970s to force collectivization: the resulting famine
>cased one million deaths.)

>OGPU agents and Red Army troops sealed all roads and rail lines. Nothing
>came in or out of Ukraine. Farms were searched and looted of food and fuel.
>Ukrainians quickly began to die of hunger, cold and sickness.

>When OGPU failed to meet weekly execution quotas, Stalin sent henchman Lazar
>Kaganovitch to destroy Ukrainian resistance. Kaganovitch, the Soviet
>Eichmann, made quota, shooting 10,000 Ukrainians weekly. Eighty percent of
>all Ukrainian intellectuals were executed. A Ukrainian party member named
>Nikita Khruschchev helped supervise the slaughter.

>During the bitter winter of 1932-33, mass starvation created by Kaganovitch
>and OGPU hit full force. Ukrainians ate their pets, boots and belts, plus
>bark and roots. Some parents even ate infant children.

>The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin’s custom-made famine and
>Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. The KGB’s archives, and
>recent work by Russian historians, show at least seven million died.
>Ukrainian historians put the figure at nine million, or higher. Twenty-five
>percent of Ukraine’s population was exterminated. Millions of victims

>Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during
>collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million
>peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia,
>Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in the USSR;
>massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial genocide
>accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war
>dead. Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish.

Note that this article is written by a well regarded Jewish writer in
Canada!!!

>The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes
>and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and
>Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both
>communism and their suffering.

> As a direct result, during the subsequent
>Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region’s innocent Jews became the
>target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.

>While the world is by now fully aware of the destruction of Europe’s Jews by
>the Nazis, the story of the numerically larger holocaust in Ukraine has been
>suppressed, or ignored. Ukraine’s genocide occurred 8-9 years before Hitler
>began the Jewish Holocaust, and was committed, unlike Nazi crimes, before
>the world’s gaze. But Stalin’s murder of millions was simply denied, or
>concealed by a left-wing conspiracy of silence that continues to this day.
>In the strange moral geometry of mass murder, only Nazis are guilty.
>Socialist luminaries like Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sidney Webb and PM
>Edouard Herriot of France, toured Ukraine during 1932-33 and proclaimed
>reports of famine were false. Shaw announced: “I did not see one
>under-nourished person in Russia.” New York Times correspondent Walter
>Duranty, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting, wrote claims of
>famine were “malignant propaganda.” Seven million people were dying around
>them, yet these fools saw nothing. The New York Times has never repudiated
>Duranty’s lies.

>Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and historical
>roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime – the inevitable
>result of enforced social engineering and Marxist theology.

>Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the governments of
>Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the Ukrainian genocide and
>Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they eagerly welcomed him as an ally
>during World War II. Stalin, who Franklin Roosevelt called “Uncle Joe,”
>murdered four times more people than Adolf Hitler.

>None of the Soviet mass murderers who committed genocide were ever brought
>to justice. Lazar Kaganovitch died peacefully in Moscow a few years ago,
>still wearing his Order of the Soviet Union, and enjoying a generous state
>pension.

On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:47:21 -0800, [email protected] (“Expat
Authority”) wrote:
>I have read some anti-Jewish postings on this NG… I say: stop!
>You know, I think that it is unfair to stereotype! You are saying that all
>Jews are bad, bloodsuckers etc.
>Yes there are people like that among the Jewish community there.
>EA
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>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>And don’t forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>gangster!!!

>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin’s participation in war crimes

>>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>>1992 and December 1994

>>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook “to
>>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts.” A Signatory may
>>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world’s
>>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States’ legal obligations to do so.
>>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>>1977, as ‘grave breaches’, the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>>prosecute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>>
>>>>>”1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately.” The order was signed “Yitzhak
>>>>>R[abin].”
>>>>>
>>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>>”The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949″ by Israeli
>>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo’s book “The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland”, Quartet Books,
>>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>>
>>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin’s implication in
>>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin’s orders. As a prelude to
>>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile’. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>>planned ‘transfer’ policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>>master plan of “ethnical cleansing”.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as ‘war crimes’.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>> of their Inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>>prohibit “at any time and in any place whatsoever….collective
>>>>>punishments”. It seems that the destruction of these villages – every
>>>>>single house in them – constitutes ‘collective punishment’ within the
>>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>> Youngsters
>>>>>
>>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by “force, might,
>>>>>beatings”. More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha’aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin’s role in these
>>>>>policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) “inhuman treatment….wilfully
>>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health”. Protocol I
>>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>>the acts which remain “prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:”: “Violence to
>>>>>the….physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular….(iii)
>>>>>corporal punishment.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>> Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin’s war:
>>>>>”Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>>southern Lebanon. (…) Rabin’s War – Operation Accountability – has killed
>>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>>Beirut. (…) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(…) About
>>>>>80 villages have been hit.”. According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the “majority of casualties were
>>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>>around 100,000.”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was “expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon ‘uninhabitable’ and to create a
>>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel’s will (…)”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), “some 400,000
>>>>>people – mainly Shi’ite Muslims – fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>>specifies as a ‘grave breach’ (war crime) “making the civilian population
>>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack” as well as “launching an
>>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects”. Further details are provided
>>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a ‘grave breach’ of international
>>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>>
>>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>>
>>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>>
>>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>>their country’s sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>>
>>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Rabin’s Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>>
>>>>>As to Mr. Rabin’s personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>>and 1967).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>>”to break the bones” of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by “force, might, beatings” and
>>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel’s Prime
>>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin’s primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>>described as ‘war crimes’ as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of ‘war crimes’, as committed in World
>>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>>Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>>the “deportation … for any … purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>>occupied territory” as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>>”deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>>population….when such acts are done….in connection with any crime
>>>>>against peace or any war crime”, as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>>process of law to determine a defendant’s culpability and punishment). The
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes ‘corporal punishment’, although not as
>>>>>a ‘grave breach’. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the ‘grave
>>>>>breaches’ (war crimes), if such attacks were committed “wilfully, in
>>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>>serious injury to body or health”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>>then, state:
>>>>>
>>>>>”The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law”
>>>>>(Principle III. “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him”.
>>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>>
>>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>>such reservations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived – legally – by
>>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today’s world, it
>>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>>circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Human rights’ and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin’s
>>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:52:42 +0100, [email protected] (Jacques
Schlesinger) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
>> On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> >>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>
>
>I cannot but admire your dedication and only wish it would be put to
>better use.

What in the article did you not understand?

On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 21:42:57 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny )
wrote:

>I guess this is just the jew practicing it’s “religion” :
>
>Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human
>(“Only ye are designated men”). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the
>sub-head, “Oil of Anointing” and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women
>are designated animals (“she-asses”).
>
>Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a
>Gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty.

No wonder other normal people detest the JEWS!!!!

>>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, [email protected] (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>>Reprinted from “Polish Weekly” published in Australia.
>>
>>>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>>>Morel is accused of “cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>>>their safety and health.” Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>>>detachment of People’s Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>>>People’s Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>>>Poland).
>>>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>>>journalist John Sack in his book “Eye for an eye” ( for this book John Sack who
>>>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>>>big.
>>>>
>>>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>>>again came back to Poland.
>>>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>>>He should…..

>>>>>Translated by Janusz Styber

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On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:57:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>>>And don’t forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>gangster!!!
>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin’s participation in war crimes
>>>>>
>>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>>1992 and December 1994
>>>>>
>>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook “to
>>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts.” A Signatory may
>>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world’s
>>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States’ legal obligations to do so.
>>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>>1977, as ‘grave breaches’, the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>>prosecute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>>
>>>>>”1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately.” The order was signed “Yitzhak
>>>>>R[abin].”
>>>>>
>>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>>”The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949″ by Israeli
>>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo’s book “The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland”, Quartet Books,
>>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>>
>>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin’s implication in
>>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin’s orders. As a prelude to
>>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile’. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>>planned ‘transfer’ policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>>master plan of “ethnical cleansing”.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as ‘war crimes’.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>> of their Inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>>prohibit “at any time and in any place whatsoever….collective
>>>>>punishments”. It seems that the destruction of these villages – every
>>>>>single house in them – constitutes ‘collective punishment’ within the
>>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>> Youngsters
>>>>>
>>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by “force, might,
>>>>>beatings”. More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha’aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin’s role in these
>>>>>policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) “inhuman treatment….wilfully
>>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health”. Protocol I
>>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>>the acts which remain “prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:”: “Violence to
>>>>>the….physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular….(iii)
>>>>>corporal punishment.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>> Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin’s war:
>>>>>”Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>>southern Lebanon. (…) Rabin’s War – Operation Accountability – has killed
>>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>>Beirut. (…) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(…) About
>>>>>80 villages have been hit.”. According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the “majority of casualties were
>>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>>around 100,000.”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was “expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon ‘uninhabitable’ and to create a
>>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel’s will (…)”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), “some 400,000
>>>>>people – mainly Shi’ite Muslims – fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>>specifies as a ‘grave breach’ (war crime) “making the civilian population
>>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack” as well as “launching an
>>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects”. Further details are provided
>>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a ‘grave breach’ of international
>>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>>
>>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>>
>>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>>
>>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>>their country’s sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>>
>>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Rabin’s Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>>
>>>>>As to Mr. Rabin’s personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>>and 1967).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>>”to break the bones” of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by “force, might, beatings” and
>>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel’s Prime
>>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin’s primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>>described as ‘war crimes’ as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of ‘war crimes’, as committed in World
>>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>>Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>>the “deportation … for any … purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>>occupied territory” as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>>”deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>>population….when such acts are done….in connection with any crime
>>>>>against peace or any war crime”, as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>>process of law to determine a defendant’s culpability and punishment). The
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes ‘corporal punishment’, although not as
>>>>>a ‘grave breach’. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the ‘grave
>>>>>breaches’ (war crimes), if such attacks were committed “wilfully, in
>>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>>serious injury to body or health”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>>then, state:
>>>>>
>>>>>”The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law”
>>>>>(Principle III. “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him”.
>>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>>
>>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>>such reservations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived – legally – by
>>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today’s world, it
>>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>>circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Human rights’ and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin’s
>>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:30:39 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:19:14 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:48:22 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>>>>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>>>>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>>>>role model???

>>>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:

>>>>> Positive Jewish role models

>>>>> Alan Silver.. wrote:

>>>>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant. Whatever
>>>>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>>>>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>>>>> > — crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>>>>> > whatever.
>>>>> =========
>>>>> Dear Alan,

>>>>> Thank you for your email. I am posting your letter, while removing your
>>>>> signature.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>>>>> Yes, it is hardly significant. The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>>>>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>>>>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>>>>> Ukrainians and Germans. We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>>>>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.

>>>>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>>>>> and admire Jewish achievements world over. (And yes I am jelous of it
>>>>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>>>>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)

>>>>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>>>>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>>>>> martyrology. The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>>>>> by Israeli archeologists. It is about the time that the mythical parts
>>>>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>>>>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>>>>> helping Jews.

>>>>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>>>>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.

>>>>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>>>>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>>>>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>>>>> a barn on July 11, 19941.

>>>>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>>>>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.

>>>>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>>>>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>>>>> many others. My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>>>>> Rubin.
>>>>> ————
>>>>> Jozef pawlikowski

>>>>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI >>>>> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>>>>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>>>>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM

>>>>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>>>>> > > > In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> > wrote:

>>>>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>>>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary. It was called Ordnungdienst. Their
>>>>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David. The social background of these
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>>>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees, 60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>>>> > > > |> education. These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

>>>>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>>>> > > > |> of his book. In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>>>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>>>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>>>> > > > |> closed.

>>>>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>>>> > > > |longer or die now!

>>>>> > > > Herman
>>>>> > > > Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian, Polack,
>>>>> > > > Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>>>>> > > > guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian, and
>>>>> > > > other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish community
>>>>> > > > not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals, unless
>>>>> > > > they happen to be jews.

>>>>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>>>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next “relocation”!

>>>>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>>>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.

>>>>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>>>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>>>> > > > |> Lodz. German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>>>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA. Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>>>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>>>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>>>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.

>>>>> > > > What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>>>>> > > > there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label them
>>>>> > > > with any nationality?

>>>>> > > > –Rostyk
>>>>> > > ===============
>>>>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>>>>> > > Research costs $$$. Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>>>>> > > starters.

>>>>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews. I can make out
>>>>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>>>>> > > J

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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:25:59 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:14:17, [email protected] wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Sep 98 20:34:05 GMT, [email protected] (Real Name:)
>wrote:
>>————Reply Separator—————-
>>On 9/22/98 4:24PM, in message
>><[email protected]>, NSWPP
>> wrote:

>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998

>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) – An angry man waving a
>>gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden
>>crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi
>>death camp of Auschwitz.

>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and
>>radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has
>>threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him
>>and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site.

>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his
>>campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to
>>dog attempts to better
>>Poland’s image abroad and improve relations between
>>the country and Jewish
>>groups.

>>“The conflict strikes a blow at Poland’s interests
>>and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,” prime ministerial adviser
>>Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency. “We are
>>beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,”
>>she added.

>>But even if the government quickly secures an
>>eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management
>>of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further
>>conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable.

>>DO’S AND DONT’S AT AUSCHWITZ

>>At issue is the definition of what activity is
>>appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5
>>million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II. Papal intervention
>>was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent,
>>which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near
>>the site.

>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest
>>graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish
>>groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity
>>of the complex.

>>Poland’s center-right government scored a minor
>>triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from
>>the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau.

>>A discreet deal between the government and an
>>international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope
>>John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a
>>nationalist uproar.

>>Switon’s campaign to protect that and other crosses
>>is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker
>>groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists.

>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics
>>with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from
>>patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of
>>Poles died, not be
>>forgotten.

>>But Switon’s support has ebbed since bishops and the
>>government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should
>>remain and all new crosses
>>be removed.

>>A U.S-led international Jew coalition, which has
>>broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is
>>unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the
>>presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent
>>decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be
>>negotiated.

>>“The cross is a major problem,” said Ralph
>>Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. “I don’t know the
>>answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should
>>be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.”

>>“We have to remove all the crosses that were put up
>>to provoke the Jewish
>>community,” said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec,
>>“But I don’t see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion
>>about the papal cross at
>>the moment.”

>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE

>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon
>>affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of
>>Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join
>>NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom
>>and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to
>>improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora.

>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a
>>renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work
>>on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent
>>run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in
>>southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold.

>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more
>>directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an
>>extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less
>>frequently.

>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by
>>the “Judenrampe,” the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from
>>across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with
>>weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs,
>>were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the
>>extermination campaign.

>>“No. 1 is to preserve the site,” said Miles
>>Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. “We’re talking about
>>preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.”

>>A new visitors’ center, educational efforts, a
>>better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is
>>permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are
>>also on the agenda.

>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high
>>hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out
>>of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes
>>managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political
>>prisoners died and where
>>Hitler’s troops implemented the “Final Solution,”
>>wiping out most of
>>Poland’s pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population.

>>“I hope this law will be accepted by the main
>>Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating
>>dialogue,” said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska.

>>But officials accept that, despite good will and
>>improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable.

>>“We have to live with the fact that protests and
>>controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,” said Stanislaw Krajewski, a
>>leader of Poland’s tiny
>>Jewish community.

>Why should the cursed Christkillers dictate to the sovereign people
>of Poland, what Polish people may do in their own country??

>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the damned JEW-led KGB
>who murdered the 25000 Polish officers at KATYN??

>Why should the Polish people forget that it was the JEW-led soviets
>who occupied and enslaved the Christian Polish people??

>-88-

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On Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:41:06 -0800, wawrzek
wrote:

>Most people do not want to believe this, as much as they did not want to believe
>Clinton lied. They think of the Jew as righteous and as chosen. I have dealt with
>Jews for many years, and I can tell you that they are capable of ANYTHING.
>Believe me, I have seen them do things that the average person would not believe. And
>in each and every case, it was for the buck. The true God of Jews is the Almighty
>dollar and I defy anyone to dispute that.

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:39:30 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>> >Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught dealing drugs – this
>> >time inside a prison!!!

>> >Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>> >Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>> >balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>> >
>> >He is a former head of the “who’s Who in canadian Jewry”, and has been
>> >a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>> >>Christ.
>> >
>> >>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>> >>business.
>> >>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>> >>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>> >
>> >>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>> >>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>> >>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>> >>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>> >>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>> >>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>> >>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>> >>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>> >——————————————————————————
>> >2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>> >
>> >By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>> >
>> >NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>> >rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>> >launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>> >narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>> >synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn.
>> >
>> >The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>> >together a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York
>> >representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>> >purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>> >ties to a close-knit Jewish community.
>> >
>> > At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>> >of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>> >modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>> >American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>> >Colombian drug lords.
>> >
>> >”Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>> >traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>> >conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary
>> >Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>> >announcing the charges.
>> >
>> >Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>> >Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>> >Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>> >before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>> >to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>> >5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>> >federal cash-transaction reporting requirements.
>> >
>> >Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>> >320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>> >released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>> >complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>> >custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>> >the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case.
>> >
>> >Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>> >court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>> >charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>> >taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>> >synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>> >writing checks to drug traffickers.
>> >
>> >Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>> >name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>> >Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>> >than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>> >transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996.
>> >
>> >Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>> >have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>> >Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>> >drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>> >– the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>> >requirement — through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>> >and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location.
>> >
>> >The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>> >listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>> >people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>> >about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>> >Shel Shulem.
>> >
>> >The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>> >front and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in
>> >Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz
>> >Family of Mexico Building.”
>> >
>> >In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>> >were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>> >would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>> >named in the federal complaint.
>> >
>> >The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>> >Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>> >– began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>> >withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>> >various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>> >officials said.
>> >
>> >With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>> >techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>> >which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>> >deposits and withdrawals — transactions, they said, that let the
>> >conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits.
>> >
>> >Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>> >Monday’s complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>> >of them — Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>> >Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to
>> >have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>> >launder.
>> >
>> >The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>> >Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>> >and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>> >and stashed the money at an apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>> >
>> >There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>> >later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>> >Shulem.
>> >
>> >Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made
>> >out to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,”
>> >the federal complaint said.
>> >
>> >Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>> >formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>> >Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>> >laundered money and divided among the intermediaries.
>> >
>> >Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>> >community came into contact with professional money launderers and
>> >drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>> >Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>> >a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>> >================================================================================
>> >The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>> >——————————————————————————–
>> > News Bureau and Archives Online

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:53:15 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml

>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>22May98

>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??

>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World

>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>Art-Smuggling ‘Red Mafia’

>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>
>>
>>>In two posh villas outside the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>terrified victims. The mob’s young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>
>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>as New Zealand.
>>>
>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a 52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>”Brainy Don”–he holds an economics degree from the University of
>>>Lvov–and until now, he has never been exposed by the media. But the
>>>Voice has obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and Israeli
>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and these documents–as well
>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>law enforcement sources here and abroad–describe him as someone who
>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>
>>>”He’s the most powerful mobster in the world,” crows Monya Elson, who
>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich’s closest
>>>associates and partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>known as Monya’s Brigada, is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>Center in lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>extortions.
>>
>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive money-laundering scheme in
>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>perestroika.
>>>
>>>”If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,” boasted
>>>Elson. ”I lived with him. I’m his partner, don’t forget. We are very,
>>>very close friends. I don’t mean close, I mean very, very close. He’s my
>>>best friend.” Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>
>>>Allegations of Mogilevich’s devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow’s
>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ”smugglers’ paradise,” says
>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>Mogilevich’s apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>against terrorism.
>>>
>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>Germany, including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>anonymity.
>>>
>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>Mogilevich’s chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich’s man from L.A. said the Red
>>>Mafia would dispose of the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>”probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,”
>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>reached an agreement with the leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of art
>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich’s operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ”restoration.”
>>>Mogilevich’s men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to an unwitting
>>>Sotheby’s auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>as well as other ”restored” objects back to Moscow.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH’S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of the same
>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>
>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>assets–rubles, furniture, and art–cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ”hard”
>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>profits.
>>>
>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum import-export company, Arbat
>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners–with a
>>>quarter share of the company–was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>in upstate New York.
>>>
>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received Israeli
>>>citizenship. He ”succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel” and
>>>”developing significant and influential [political] ties,” says an
>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and Kiev–called the
>>>”Black and White Clubs”–that has become one of the world’s foremost
>>>centers of prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI documents. The Black
>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich’s operations. He
>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization, in the mode of
>>>a traditional American mafia family. Indeed, many of the organization’s
>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>
>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary’s arms industry.
>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>
>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>
>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>the London branch of Banque Francaise De L’orean.
>>>
>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>established in 1991 by two Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>industry, who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>
>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>Israel.
>>>
>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn’t sustain his empire
>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>documented example of a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>Mogilevich’s top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>
>>>In Europe and Russia, the ”corruption of police and public officials
>>>has been part of the Semion Mogilevich Organization’s modus operandi,”
>>>says a classified FBI document. ”The corruptive influence of the
>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking information for use in the
>>>Russian political campaign.” An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence. Mogilevich also paid
>>>off a Russian judge to secure Vyacheslav Ivankov’s early release from a
>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>according to U.S. court records and classified FBI documents.
>>>
>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>contract with Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian mob.
>>>The charges were made by several sources, including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>highly regarded Belgium police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND, police in Belgium,
>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>investigate the ”Brainy Don.” If the television report is accurate,
>>>one possible motive for BND’s deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ”pulled their people
>>>out of Moscow because they didn’t like the level of cooperation they
>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the Russian mob.”
>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>their rivals.
>>>
>>>MOGILEVICH’S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>says a classified FBI report. He has set up companies in Los
>>>Angeles–FNJ Trade Management–and Newton, Pennsylvania–YBM Magnex
>>>International–as well as dozens of shell companies, which have
>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>Mogilevich’s financial operations.
>>>
>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of the organized-crime
>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI, IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM’s
>>>offices in Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with Canadian and
>>>U.S. police citing the company’s alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>crime. YBM is publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and two
>>>days before Friday’s raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>
>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>out why the INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he’s on the department’s
>>>watch list of international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson and Ivankov.
>>>
>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of one of the most
>>>ruthless organized-crime families in recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>”We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>this stuff.” He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn’t believe them.
>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>
>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in a New York
>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>the first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of money controlled
>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved through a mafia-controlled
>>>bank in Chelsea.) Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star Viennese hotel,
>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>
>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich’s organization and has arranged contract
>>>killings here, supplying the weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>government’s charges, and that they are ”total bullshit.” Although he
>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich’s son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg’s business card identified his
>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>released.
>>>
>>>Oleg’s uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>New York City, arrived in the Big Apple after having survived a
>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>though Vladimir Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>Russian mob.
>>>
>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ”He also ingratiates himself
>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>groups’ activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good citizen,”
>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with his strong leadership
>>>qualities, his acute financial skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>associates, and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far made
>>>the ”Brainy Don” impervious to prosecution.
>>>
>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.

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>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:36 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 01:42:58 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>>And don’t forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>gangster!!!

>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 18:30:30 -0700, Clancy
>>>> wrote:

>>>>>Memorandum on Yitzhak Rabin’s participation in war crimes

>>>>>By Elias Davidsson, Reykjav_k, Iceland October 1992. Revisions in December
>>>>>1992 and December 1994

>>>>>A number of Member States of the United Nations have declared their
>>>>>interest and support for the establishment of an International Criminal
>>>>>Court under United Nations auspices to deal with international crimes such
>>>>>as war crimes and crimes against humanity. A Special Court to deal with War
>>>>>Crimes committed in ex-Yugoslavia has been established under UN auspices
>>>>>and has began functioning. There have also been calls by non-governmental
>>>>>organisations and eminent citizens for the trial of individual leaders,
>>>>>such as Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, George Bush and John Major, for their
>>>>>alleged participation in war crimes. More and more people recognize the
>>>>>importance of holding individual public leaders responsible for their deeds
>>>>>and failings, not only politically and morally, but also legally.
>>>>>International law provides some opportunities in this direction, which have
>>>>>not been used yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Such opportunity presents itself in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949. By signing these Conventions, each Signatory State undertook “to
>>>>>search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be
>>>>>committed, [such] grave breaches, and [shall] bring such persons,
>>>>>regardless of their nationality, before its own courts.” A Signatory may
>>>>>also avail itself of the possibility, under certain conditions, of handing
>>>>>such persons to another Signatory State for trial.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since the Nurnberg and Tokyo trials in which the leading World War II
>>>>>criminals were tried, no judicial body of any country has been willing to
>>>>>initiate legal measures for the apprehension and trial of the world’s
>>>>>leading war criminals, in spite of States’ legal obligations to do so.
>>>>>States, including those claiming to support human rights, shield leading
>>>>>war criminals from prosecution or provide them with shelter. Individuals
>>>>>such as Pol Pot of Kampuchea, Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Assad of Syria,
>>>>>Pinochet of Chile and Mobutu of Zaire, are often, and justifiably, labelled
>>>>>as enemies of Mankind. But none of them has ever been formally charged by
>>>>>any Signatory of the Geneva Conventions, in spite of ample evidence of
>>>>>their responsibility for international crimes. Other gross human right
>>>>>violators (such as the leaders of Haiti) have been offered shelter in third
>>>>>countries where they escape prosecution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Israeli-Arab conflict, or more correctly the Zionist- Palestinian
>>>>>conflict, has lasted for almost a century. In the course of this conflict,
>>>>>many acts of violence were committed by both sides. But not every act of
>>>>>violence committed in an international conflict is defined in international
>>>>>law as a war crime or a crime against humanity. The difference lies both in
>>>>>the nature of the crime, its extent, whether it is systematic or sporadic
>>>>>and whether violence was committed against non-combatants, to name a few
>>>>>criteria. Only the most odious crimes are considered as offences against
>>>>>Mankind, which all states, individually and collectively, are required to
>>>>>repress. The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional
>>>>>Protocols of 1977, provide a list of such crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>The present memorandum provides evidence about the responsibility of Mr.
>>>>>Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli national and current Prime Minister of the State of
>>>>>Israel, for acts committed under his orders and which are defined in the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 and their Additional Protocol I of
>>>>>1977, as ‘grave breaches’, the technical term for war crimes. The
>>>>>memorandum includes also a preliminary legal discussion about the acts in
>>>>>question, the responsibility of Mr. Rabin and the duties of states to
>>>>>prosecute.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Mr. Rabin Was Responsible for Ethnical Cleaning / Deportation in 1948
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12 July 1948, Lt. Colonel Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of Operations Operation
>>>>>Dani, issued the following order to Yiftah Brigade headquarters:
>>>>>
>>>>>”1. The inhabitants of Lydda must be expelled quickly without attention to
>>>>>age. They should be directed towards Beit Nabala. Yiftah [Brigade
>>>>>headquarters] must determine the method and inform [Operation] Dani HQ and
>>>>>8th Brigade HQ. 2. Implement immediately.” The order was signed “Yitzhak
>>>>>R[abin].”
>>>>>
>>>>>The implementation of this order is described in the authoritative book
>>>>>”The birth of the Palestinian refugee problem, 1947-1949″ by Israeli
>>>>>historian Benny Morris (Cambridge University Press, 1987) [pages 207-210]
>>>>>and more in detail in Michael Palumbo’s book “The Palestinian catastrophe:
>>>>>The 1948 expulsion of a people from their homeland”, Quartet Books,
>>>>>London/New York, 1987 [Chapter VIII: The Lydda Death March].
>>>>>
>>>>>These publications offer further evidence about Mr. Rabin’s implication in
>>>>>this event. The authors estimate that approx. 50.000 civilians (Arabs) were
>>>>>expelled from Lydda and Ramleh under Mr. Rabin’s orders. As a prelude to
>>>>>the flight hundreds of civilians were killed by Israeli soldiers. Many more
>>>>>died in the ensuing `march to exile’. Although Zionist leaders claimed that
>>>>>the expulsions were based on military necessity, the fact that the refugees
>>>>>were not allowed to return and declarations by Zionist leaders about the
>>>>>necessity to reduce the number of Arabs in the incumbent Jewish state lend
>>>>>credence to the claim (by Palestinians) that the expulsions were part of a
>>>>>planned ‘transfer’ policy by the Zionist authorities, in other words a
>>>>>master plan of “ethnical cleansing”.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of Lydda and
>>>>>Ramleh (who have never been allowed to return) constitutes a grave breach
>>>>>of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August
>>>>>1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 85.5 of the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions of
>>>>>12 August 1949 specifically refers to grave breaches as ‘war crimes’.
>>>>>
>>>>>2. Mr Rabin Ordered in 1967 the Destruction of 3 Villages and the Expulsion
>>>>> of their Inhabitants
>>>>>
>>>>>In the 1967 war between Israel and Jordan, Yitzhak Rabin was Chief of Staff
>>>>>of the Israeli Defence Forces. In this short war some 5.000 inhabitants
>>>>>from three villages in the Latrun triangle between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
>>>>>(Emwas, Beit Nuba and Yalou) were expelled by the Israeli army and their
>>>>>villages totally destroyed. An Israeli soldier, Amos Kenan, who took part
>>>>>in the expulsions, described these acts in a report sent to all Israeli
>>>>>Members of Parliament. According to press reports, including one in
>>>>>Jerusalem Post of 24 October 1991, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin admitted in Canadian
>>>>>TV having given the order to destroy the villages. The inhabitants of these
>>>>>villages were never allowed to return and rebuilt their village nor bury
>>>>>their dead in the lands of their former village.
>>>>>
>>>>>The deportation of civilians constitutes a Crime against Humanity under
>>>>>Article 6(c) of the Nnrnberg Charter and a grave breach of the Fourth
>>>>>Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, as specified in Article 147 thereof.
>>>>>The unjustifiable delay in the repatriation of the inhabitants of the above
>>>>>three villages constitutes a grave breach of the First Additional Protocol
>>>>>to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (article 85.4).
>>>>>
>>>>>In addition, the Geneva Conventions as well as their additional protocols
>>>>>prohibit “at any time and in any place whatsoever….collective
>>>>>punishments”. It seems that the destruction of these villages – every
>>>>>single house in them – constitutes ‘collective punishment’ within the
>>>>>meaning of the Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Mr Rabin Urged Israeli Soldiers to Break the Bones of Palestinian
>>>>> Youngsters
>>>>>
>>>>>In mid-January 1988, Mr. Rabin, then Israeli Defense Minister, announced a
>>>>>policy to restore order in the Occupied Territories by “force, might,
>>>>>beatings”. More specifically, he urged Israeli soldiers to summarily (and
>>>>>viciously) beat Palestinian demonstrators. Israeli soldiers implemented
>>>>>this policy, breaking the hands or arms of many demonstrators with
>>>>>methodically directed blows, using sticks and stones. In some cases,
>>>>>Palestinian youngsters were rounded up from their homes, brought to remote
>>>>>areas, and there, while a couple of soldiers held them, had their bones
>>>>>smashed. The international outrage called forth by a 40- minute long
>>>>>TV-film secretly shot, and showing how Israeli soldiers smash the bones of
>>>>>a Palestinian youth, compelled the Israeli government to halt these
>>>>>extra-judicial and inhuman punishments.
>>>>>
>>>>>Israeli soldiers, charged for using excessive force and brought to trial in
>>>>>Israel, have testified that the orders for these practices originated from
>>>>>above, including from Yitzhak Rabin. Although the Israeli press published
>>>>>numerous testimonies, which all mention Mr. Rabin as the instigator of
>>>>>these practices (i.e. Ha’aretz, 9. April, 1. July, 3. July 1990, Jerusalem
>>>>>Post of 25 July and 30 June 1992), Mr. Rabin was never asked to testify in
>>>>>court. No inquiry was initiated regarding Mr. Rabin’s role in these
>>>>>policies.
>>>>>
>>>>>Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 12 August 1949, specifies as
>>>>>one of the grave breaches (war crimes) “inhuman treatment….wilfully
>>>>>causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health”. Protocol I
>>>>>Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (1977), lists among
>>>>>the acts which remain “prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever,
>>>>>whether committed by civilian or by military agents:”: “Violence to
>>>>>the….physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular….(iii)
>>>>>corporal punishment.”
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Yitzhak Rabin Ordered in 1993 Indiscriminate Attacks of Civilian
>>>>> Population Centers in Lebanon
>>>>>
>>>>>The Sunday Times, 1 August 1993, reported under the heading: Rabin’s war:
>>>>>”Late yesterday, he [Rabin] called off his personal seven-day war in
>>>>>southern Lebanon. (…) Rabin’s War – Operation Accountability – has killed
>>>>>at least 130 and sent hundreds of thousands of Lebanese fleeing towards
>>>>>Beirut. (…) Southern Lebanon had become a land without people.(…) About
>>>>>80 villages have been hit.”. According to the London-based Middle East
>>>>>International (MEI) of 6 August 1993, the “majority of casualties were
>>>>>civilians. At least 55 towns and villages were very heavily damaged,
>>>>>including Nabatiya, a major regional center with a normal population of
>>>>>around 100,000.”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to the editorial of the same issue of MEI, this seven-day
>>>>>bombardment of southern Lebanon was “expressly designed (as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>himself announced) to render South Lebanon ‘uninhabitable’ and to create a
>>>>>tidal wave of refugees so huge that it would destabilise the government in
>>>>>Beirut and bend it to Israel’s will (…)”
>>>>>
>>>>>According to Lebanese government estimates (reported in MEI), “some 400,000
>>>>>people – mainly Shi’ite Muslims – fled their homes in panic, with about
>>>>>half of them converging on Beirut and its southern suburbs. While some had
>>>>>families and friends to go to, others arrived with only the clothes they
>>>>>stood in, and had no money to fend for themselves”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the Hague Conventions of 1907 and the Additional Protocol I to the
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 contain specific provisions that
>>>>>prohibit attacks on civilian populations. Thus Additional Protocol I
>>>>>specifies as a ‘grave breach’ (war crime) “making the civilian population
>>>>>or individual civilians the object of attack” as well as “launching an
>>>>>indiscriminate attack affecting the civilian population or civilian objects
>>>>>in the knowledge that such attack will cause excessive loss of life, injury
>>>>>to civilians or damage to civilian objects”. Further details are provided
>>>>>by the Protocols, all of which lead to the conclusion that the Israeli
>>>>>attack on South Lebanon constituted a ‘grave breach’ of international
>>>>>humanitarian law. The individual who bears the primary responsibility for
>>>>>the Israeli operation against South Lebanon is Yitzhak Rabin, in his double
>>>>>capacity as Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.
>>>>>
>>>>>LEGAL DISCUSSION
>>>>>
>>>>>There are a number of legal questions that must be settled before charging
>>>>>Mr. Rabin for participation in war crimes. Among these questions we can
>>>>>mention the following: Are the facts allegedly attributed to Mr. Rabin
>>>>>true? Are the sources trustworthy? What is the evidence that Mr. Rabin had
>>>>>anything to do with these acts ? Do the acts under consideration constitute
>>>>>prosecutable crimes under international law?
>>>>>
>>>>>Another set of questions would deal with the problems involved in bringing
>>>>>a person such as Mr. Rabin to trial. These problems are of a similar nature
>>>>>to those encountered today by the UN Tribunal on War Crimes Committed in
>>>>>Ex- Yugoslavia. These questions will not be dealt here as they are
>>>>>premature. However it is necessary to deal, if only summarily, with a
>>>>>widely held opinion, according to which the whole question of the
>>>>>prosecution of war criminals is a non-starter, because it is impossible to
>>>>>bring the leading war criminals to trial due to their political status or
>>>>>their country’s sovereignty. Although it is true that in many situations,
>>>>>it is impossible to bring about the prosecution and apprehension of the
>>>>>leading world war criminals, it is nevertheless of great public utility to
>>>>>expose their crimes as widely as possible, isolate such people politically
>>>>>and morally and cause small but significant changes of policy. Such
>>>>>publicity would at least prevent that war criminals could travel between
>>>>>world capitals in total impunity and be feted as peace heroes, as Mr. Rabin
>>>>>has been. It might be argued that in some circumstances, an individual
>>>>>charged of war crimes, might voluntarily seek due process, either to clean
>>>>>his name, or to avoid extra-judicial retribution.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Authencitiy/Reliabity of the Evidence
>>>>>
>>>>>In all above cases there has been a wide coverage given by the press and in
>>>>>scholarly works to the acts committed. There may be disagreement between
>>>>>observers as to the number of victims and to details regarding the conduct
>>>>>of hostilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the first two cases (expulsion from Lydda and Ramleh and expulsion from
>>>>>the 3 villages around Latrun), there is no controversy about the fact that
>>>>>the population of these two towns was expelled. A disagreement persists
>>>>>regarding the aim of the expulsion. Israel maintains that the expulsion
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity. From the point of view of
>>>>>international humanitarian law, it does not matter why a civil population
>>>>>is deported. Such deportations are prohibited in all circumstances and
>>>>>constitute war crimes. Furthermore, if it were true that a the expulsions
>>>>>were carried out because of military necessity, the expelled would be
>>>>>allowed to return to their homes, once the hostilities ended. But Israel
>>>>>has not only refused to allow such return but allowed Jewish immigrants
>>>>>from other countries to permanently occupy the abandoned houses in Ramleh
>>>>>and Lydda and planted a park on the land of the villages destroyed in 1967.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ample evidence has been published in 1988 in the Israeli press and the
>>>>>international press about acts of beatings and breaking of limbs by Israeli
>>>>>soldiers. Such evidence includes also visual documentaries, testimonies by
>>>>>Israeli soldiers and testimonies of victims. There is no controversy about
>>>>>the fact that such acts were carried out.
>>>>>
>>>>>The last case, regarding the massive attack on South Lebanon, was reported
>>>>>in the international press. The effect of the attack was documented in
>>>>>great detail, particularly the flight of hundreds of thousands of civilians
>>>>>from their homes in South Lebanon and their plight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mr. Rabin’s Personal Involvement in the Above Acts
>>>>>
>>>>>As to Mr. Rabin’s personal implication in the above acts, this has never
>>>>>been questioned by anyone. As quoted above, Mr. Rabin has publicly
>>>>>acknowledged to have ordered the commission of the first two actions (1948
>>>>>and 1967).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Mr. Rabin did not yet explicitly admit to have urged Israeli soldiers
>>>>>”to break the bones” of Palestinian demonstrators, his declared policy in
>>>>>1987/88 to crush the Palestinian uprising by “force, might, beatings” and
>>>>>the numerous testimonies in Israeli courts by Israeli IDF personnel
>>>>>implicating Mr. Rabin in such punishments appear sufficient to charge him
>>>>>of instigating and condoning these acts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the IDF attack on South Lebanon in 1993, it can be assumed that it
>>>>>was committed under direct orders from and permission by Israel’s Prime
>>>>>Minister and Minister of Defense, Mr. Yitzhak Rabin. Although one might
>>>>>argue that other Israeli nationals, primarily leaders of the IDF, were
>>>>>implicated in this gross violation of international law, this does not
>>>>>mitigate Mr. Rabin’s primary responsibility for this act.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Legal Status of the Above Acts under International Law
>>>>>
>>>>>Some Israeli legal scholars argue that the acts described above cannot be
>>>>>described as ‘war crimes’ as they are grossly different in extent and
>>>>>intent from the war crimes committed by the Nazi regime. According to this
>>>>>view, only the most outrageous types of ‘war crimes’, as committed in World
>>>>>War II, would qualify for universal juridiction. This narrow interpretation
>>>>>of international humanitarian law is widely challenged because in practice
>>>>>this would nullify the intent and spirit of the Geneva Conventions. Such
>>>>>interpretation would thus be incompatible with the Law of Treaties. The
>>>>>International Committee of the Red Cross, who have published the Geneva
>>>>>Conventions and their Additional Protocols, have also published
>>>>>authoritative and detailed commentaries on specific articles of these
>>>>>treaties. These can serve as a source to evaluate the applicability of the
>>>>>Conventions to these acts. The fact that the Geneva Conventions have been
>>>>>violated with impunity by numerous states, has never been considered by
>>>>>legal scholars as a practice diluting the letter and spirit of the
>>>>>Conventions.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Geneva Conventions prohibit deportation both of groups and of
>>>>>individuals in all circumstances. The expulsion of 5,000 or 50,000
>>>>>civilians from their homes falls clearly under this heading. The Nuremberg
>>>>>Principles, on the base of which Nazi war criminals were convicted, define
>>>>>the “deportation … for any … purpose of civilian population of or in
>>>>>occupied territory” as War Crime. These Principles define further the
>>>>>”deportation and other inhuman acts done against any civilian
>>>>>population….when such acts are done….in connection with any crime
>>>>>against peace or any war crime”, as Crime against Humanity.
>>>>>
>>>>>There has been some controversy about the legal nature of exactions
>>>>>committed by Israeli soldiers against Palestinian demonstrators,
>>>>>particularly the beatings under custody. To beat a person he must be
>>>>>already under custody. He thus must first be apprehended and therefore does
>>>>>not represent any imminent danger to those detaining him. Any
>>>>>extra-judicial attack or punishment upon his person constitutes a gross
>>>>>deviation from accepted norms of civilized law (which require the due
>>>>>process of law to determine a defendant’s culpability and punishment). The
>>>>>Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 are not as specific as the Additional
>>>>>Protocol I of 1977, which proscribes ‘corporal punishment’, although not as
>>>>>a ‘grave breach’. The final legal determination of this offence would have
>>>>>to be carried out by experts.
>>>>>
>>>>>As to the attack on South Lebanon, international law is quite explicit
>>>>>about the prohibition of attacking civilian areas. The fact that Hizbullah
>>>>>forces launched attacks against Israel from these areas does not relieve
>>>>>Israel from the duty to observe the rules of warfare when launching
>>>>>retribution. In launching and committing the massive attacks on wide
>>>>>populated areas in South Lebanon and causing hundreds of thousands of
>>>>>people to flee their homes, the IDF clearly and grossly violated the laws
>>>>>of warfare. Article 85, paragraph 3 (a) and (b) of the Additional Protocol
>>>>>I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 specify such attacks among the ‘grave
>>>>>breaches’ (war crimes), if such attacks were committed “wilfully, in
>>>>>violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and causing death or
>>>>>serious injury to body or health”.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do State Leaders Enjoy Immunity Against Prosecution?
>>>>>
>>>>>It is generally believed that State leaders are immune from legal
>>>>>prosecution with regards to international humanitarian law, but this is
>>>>>incorrect. The international community has accepted that a limited number
>>>>>of crimes are so odious that their perpetrators are considered enemies of
>>>>>Mankind. Such crimes include piracy, slavery, genocide, international
>>>>>terrorism and war crimes, to name a few. It is the right and duty of all
>>>>>nations to search and bring to trial individuals who have committed such
>>>>>crimes, regardless of nationality and status. The Nuremberg Principles,
>>>>>established in 1945 and incorporated into positive international law since
>>>>>then, state:
>>>>>
>>>>>”The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime
>>>>>under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government
>>>>>official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law”
>>>>>(Principle III. “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his
>>>>>Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under
>>>>>international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible for him”.
>>>>>(Principle IV).
>>>>>
>>>>>Evidence provided by Israeli historian Benny Morris indicates that some
>>>>>Israeli leaders and government members, such as Minister Shitrit, were
>>>>>shocked by the expulsions from Lydda and Ramleh in 1948 and wanted to stop
>>>>>them. Mr. Rabin choose to implement the expulsions by all means in spite of
>>>>>such reservations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Conclusion
>>>>>
>>>>>There is ample evidence publicly available regarding the responsibility of
>>>>>Mr. Yitzhak Rabin, currently Prime Minister of the State of Israel, in
>>>>>instigating and ordering acts defined as war crimes in international law.
>>>>>Summary of this evidence has been provided in this memorandum as well as a
>>>>>short legal discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is the obligation of the Signatories of the Geneva Conventions to
>>>>>initiate legal procedures, either in domestic courts or through a
>>>>>collective mechanism under UN auspices, for the prosecution of war
>>>>>criminals. This duty is absolute and cannot be waived – legally – by
>>>>>political or other considerations. In practice, leading war criminals, such
>>>>>as Mr. Rabin, have not been prosecuted but feted. In today’s world, it
>>>>>seems that one must have committed the most heinous war crimes to be
>>>>>awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. UN members are perceived as acting in
>>>>>concert to shield war criminals. Such gross, systematic and persistent
>>>>>derelictions by UN member states and signatories of the Geneva Conventions,
>>>>>undermine the moral and legal authority of these states to ensure
>>>>>international equity and peace. If the lawkeepers are themselves criminal
>>>>>or help to shield leading criminals from prosecution, their legitimacy as
>>>>>lawkeepers must be challenged for the sake of world peace and justice. Such
>>>>>challenge can be moral, legal, political or military, depending on the
>>>>>circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>>Human rights’ and peace organisations who wish to see the rule of law
>>>>>supersede the law of the jungle in international affairs and all those who
>>>>>struggle for democracy, public accountability and justice, should therefore
>>>>>avail themselves of the evidence provided here to publicize Mr. Rabin’s
>>>>>deeds and press for his apprehension and prosecution, wherever he is to be
>>>>>found.
>>>>
>>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled – as Fertiliser

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On 22 Dec 1998 19:42:05 GMT, kmcvay (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wanted to
write, but his Jew masters prevented him telling the truth as follows:

On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:41:06 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:

>What is the current status in Hong Kong, regarding this story from
>dejanews??
>
>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 22:27:09 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>[More Headers]
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 29 May 1997, Brian Blank wrote:
>>
>>Usual Jew supporting faggot-loving garbage – deleted
>>
>>Guess the business of swindling Chinese immigrants to Canada took a
>>nosedive recently, when the Canadian Chamber of Commerce was forced to
>>publicise that more than 200,000 Chinese Canadians have RETURNED TO HONG
>>KONG, because of the amendments to the Canadian Income Tax rules.
>>
>>Now, the stupid Chinese must pay taxes on their overseas assets, just to
>>make up for the unpaid taxes of the JEW BRONFMANS!!!
>>
>>It was the JEW BRONFMANS who took 2.2 BILLION dollars out of Canada
>>without paying their Income Taxes.
>>
>>Then the Canadian Tax Department decided to make the Chinese pay to make
>>up this shortfall.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 25 May 1997 14:06:14 -0400, sperati wrote:
>>
>>According to many newspapers in Canada this past week, the exodus of
>>prominent Chinese, returning to Hong Kong, is now a flood.
>>
>>It seems that now that they have their Canadian Passports and
>>citizenships, they do not feel obligated to pay the confiscatory Canada
>>Income Taxes, just to make up for the billions looted by the damn Bronfman
>>JEWS!!!
>>
>>It seems that even in the Province of Quebec, there is now growing
>>anti-JEW sentiments, all generated by the Bronfmans and their ilk.
>>
>>On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, blank wrote:
>>
>>Will the case of the BronfmanJEWS, who took 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>Canada without paying their Income Taxes, come back to haunt the damn
>>Liberals??
>>
>>Because of this ripoff of the Canadian taxpayers, now the stupid Chinese
>>who emigrated to Canada, must now pay taxes on their overseas ASSETS,
>>according to page 2 of the 1996 T-2 Tax Return Form!!!!
>>
>>Why should the JEWS get preferential treatment, and not normal white
>>people who also pay taxes???
>>
>>
>>Brian Blank is to be thanked for repeating this news story worldwide, to
>>remind the Chinese immigrants who have left Canada, why they are being
>>swindled – to make up for the billions NOT paid by the Bronfman JEWS!!!
>>
>>Copyright © 1995-97 Deja News, Inc. All rights reserved.
88

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On Sun, 06 Dec 1998 16:08:06 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:50:28 GMT, [email protected]
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:16:58 GMT, sbjarnason wanted to
>>>include the whole article:

>>>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
>>>in 1997?
>>>
>>>The 200,000 refers only to the first 6 months of 1997.
>>>This must have put a major economic drain on the economies of those
>>>cities such as Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton, where Chinese used to
>>>locate.
>>>
>>>On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>>>
>>>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>>>
>>>>The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>>>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>>>
>>>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>>>returns.
>>>
>>>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>>>Income Taxes.
>>>
>>>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>>>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>>>have also closed down many businesses.
>>>
>>>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>>>country.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> [email protected] (Clturnomad) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>>>>> interested in people’s response to the following question:
>>>
>>>>>> In the last few years, there has been a surge of “returnees” to Hong Kong –
>>>>>> people who left the territory to get a foreign passport, and have now
>>>>>> returned. My question is this: Why do Hong Kong people who have emigrated
>>>>>> to, say, Canada or the US, and maybe even spent years living in their new
>>>>>> home, feel the desire to return to Hong Kong? Is there anything about Hong
>>>>>> Kong that is really that much better than the US or Canada?
>>>sven88
>>>
>>>

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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:01:41 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>Reply-To: [email protected]

>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism – Don’t Deny It
>>>From: [email protected] (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism

>>> One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called “Russian
>>>Revolution” of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as “anti-Semitic” who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>> First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father’s side.
>>>Whether he was a “religous” Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews.
>>
>>> While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let’s see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: “Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population….”
>>
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: “Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type.”
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: “It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it’s
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
>>
>>
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: “…(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars’ including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government.”
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party’s executive secretary and – as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee – head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky.
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”
>>
>>>The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>”Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I’ve taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here’s three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress:
>>
>>>”We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews…I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York…The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon.
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, ‘Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.’ Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews.
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it.”
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>”anti-Semitic” and therefore unreliable, but they’d be wrong. Here’s a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>”The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920)
>>
>>>”There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism.” (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919)
>>
>>>”Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism.” (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>”In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population.” (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called “anti-Semitism” a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>”National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism…under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty.” (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920’s in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . ”
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> http://www.natall.com
>>> http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Roger’s Page http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>> Keep It White Because You Know It’s Right!
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>-88-

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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:54:40 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, [email protected] (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:

>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>> I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>> However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>> people.
>>>> No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>> They come illegally into Israel.
>>>> Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>> irgun43
>
>>> Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don’t
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand.
>
>>> “They come illegally …” Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel, and although brothels are
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach.
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn’t appear to be the case
>>> in Israel.
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it’s host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it’s too late!
>

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, [email protected]zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach
>wrote:

>>>Hitler’s Jewish Army
>>>
>>>”Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim.” –Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>”If there were Jews in (Hitler’s) armed forces…who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable.” –Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>’full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler’s knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), “men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops.”
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch’s
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, “I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.”
>>>
>>>Rigg’s research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, “The Jews in Hitler’s Military,” Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, “Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,”
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.

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On Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:06:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>
>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>
>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.

>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>>
>>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>
>>> —————————————————————————
>>>
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>>
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>>
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>>
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>>
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>>
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>>
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>>
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>>
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>>
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>>
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>>
>>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!

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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:01:20 GMT, [email protected]
wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:24:37 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>>Christ.

>>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>>business.

>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>>[email protected] (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn’t these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>——————————————————————————
>>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>>
>>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>>
>>>>NEW YORK — A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>>>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>>>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>>>in Brooklyn.
>>>>
>>>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>>>a collection of strange bedfellows — five New York representatives of
>>>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>>>community.
>>>>
>>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>>>lords.
>>>>
>>>> “Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>>traffickers, and the cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible,” said Zachary Carter,
>>>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>>>charges.
>>>>
>>>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>>>reporting requirements.
>>>>
>>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>>>attorney prosecuting the case.
>>>>
>>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>>>traffickers.
>>>>
>>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>>>between August 1995 and May 1996.
>>>>
>>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 — the amount
>>>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement —
>>>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>>>at the same location.
>>>>
>>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>>>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>>
>>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution’s name in Hebrew. The
>>>>only words in English on the facade call it “the Katz Family of Mexico
>>>>Building.”
>>>>
>>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>>>federal complaint.
>>>>
>>>> The federal investigation — an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney’s
>>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service —
>>>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government’s reporting rules in
>>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>>officials said.
>>>>
>>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals —
>>>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>>>illicit drug profits.
>>>>
>>>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday’s
>>>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them —
>>>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 –were said to have brought in large sums
>>>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder.
>>>>
>>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries — Jack
>>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>>>apartment at 243 West 75th St.
>>>>
>>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>>>Grunfeld, the organization’s president, signed checks that were made out
>>>>to “entities in accordance with drug traffickers’ instructions,” the
>>>>federal complaint said.
>>>>
>>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>>>among the intermediaries.
>>>>
>>>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>>community came into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>>================================================================================
>>>> The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>>——————————————————————————–
>>>> News Bureau and Archives Online

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On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 17:37:55 +0100, [email protected] (Rainer
Joswig) wrote:

>bullshit

but wanted people to read the following:

On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>
>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>
>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>involved.
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, [email protected] (William
>Markiewicz) wrote:
>
>>
>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at. See the
>>Communication Page, August 97 issue
>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>
>sperati wrote:
>>
>> ———- Forwarded message ———-
>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> From: stefan lemieszewski
>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>
>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>
>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> titled “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.” If someone has access I would
>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>> —————————————————————————
>>
>> North Shore News
>> February 2, 1997
>>
>> Insights from abroad
>> Doug Collins
>>
>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> served in Hiler’s forces as high ranking officers.
>>
>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>> about “Jews who wore Nazi uniforms.”
>>
>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>> was Erhard Milch, who “masterminded German aircraft production and
>> transformed the Luftwaffe.” His father was Jewish.
>>
>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of “mixed Jewish race or
>> married to Jews.” They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>> Seventeen “Jews in Nazi uniform” were awarded the Knights Cross,
>> Germany’s highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>> more. The research is continuing.
>>
>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>> alive.
>>
>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>> father, “wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle.”
>>
>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>> whether they were “victims or perpetrators.”
>>
>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>
>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>> documents in the process.
>>
>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler’s Germany; also that no Jew
>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, “It makes
>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated.”
>>
>> He stated, too, that Rigg’s research would “inform both the argument
>> about Hitler’s role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans.”
>>
>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg’s research may be
>> used by “deniers.” But most “deniers” do not deny that large numbers of
>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>
>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>> was a Jew.
>>
>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>> one were seen as “mixed race” and were also denied full citizenship.
>>
>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>
>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of “Aryan descent.” Milch, sentenced to a
>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>
>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>> plotting against Hitler.
>>
>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> wonder why?
>>
>> —The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
Rainer88

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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:42 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP wrote:

>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London’s History

>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>
>>>Revealed: The men accused in
>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>
>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters
>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was
>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank
>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at
>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>
>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has
>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest
>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>
>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38,
>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their
>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>
>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of
>>>what Mr Field described as ‘an extended family’ about
>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing
>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed
>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by
>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage
>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>
>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with
>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members
>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used
>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>
>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the
>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill,
>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation
>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>
>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter,
>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight
>>>to clear his name.
>
>>>’This investigation is without foundation and is a complete
>>>waste of taxpayers’ money,’ he insisted. ‘All of our finances
>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>
>>>’It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism.
>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent
>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to
>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>
>>>’When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a
>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed.
>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.’
>
>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached
>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: ‘He has no
>>>comment to make.’ Eichenstein lists his official home
>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home
>>>where his wife and children live.
>
>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm
>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of
>>>the men’s companies con-firmed that they had been contacted
>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing
>>>to examine their records.
>
>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a
>>>network of companies and properties associated
>>>with the family.
>
>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein
>>>are within a stone’s throw of each other on the Stamford
>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties
>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein’s home.
>
>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties
>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>
>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a
>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling
>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>
>>>Police activity is all but non-existent – patrol cars are
>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related
>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the
>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>
>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to
>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to
>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the
>>>end of this month.
>
>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids
>>>on four houses in April – is seen by Mr Field as the first
>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>
>>>Ministers have decided that they want to ‘name and shame’
>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a
>>>’revival of common decencies’.
>
>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised
>>>housing benefit rackets in London – an initiative which
>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>
>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting
>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious
>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of
>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and
>>>other cities in Britain.
>
>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime
>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>
>>>The Minister said: ‘We are going for the big boys, while
>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much
>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in
>>>Britain today.’
>
>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31
>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite
>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.

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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:32:33 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:52:04 -0600, [email protected]
>(Vladimir Svetlov) wrote:

>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Simcha Streltsov) wrote:

>>> in my experience, there always was anti-Russian sentiment in almost all
>>> Lithuanian circles – some folks asociated [Russian-speaking] Jews with
>>> Russians and did not like us
>>
>>I sorta knew it would come to that – anti-semitism as misplaced
>>russophobia… Of course, if not for well deserved anti-Russian sentiment
>>and some astigmatic Lithuaninas, there would be no anti-semitism among the
>>Balts. So, in order to avert any future confusion like this one here it
>>comes again, back by popular demand
>>
>>THE COMPLETE IDIOT’S GUIDE TO LOWER RACES, trans. from Aryan
>>
>> RUSSIANS – relatively large human-like mammals, pale in hue, may even
>>reach the size of a real Lithianian. No discernable forehead, squinted
>>Tartar eyes and big clumsy hands add to the above portrait of the average
>>Russian. Prefers keeping in hordes, which are regularly being pushed out of
>>Siberian taiga by something even more disgusting than Russians themselves
>>(probably the savage dog-headed wood elves), outward in the direction of
>>Europe. Thus every Lithuanian has to learn how to identify these animals in
>>the wild and to know how to deal with migrating Russians en route.
>>It was said that they can be as large as humans, but never quite so tall as
>>their backs are always bent due to their inherent affection to slavery.
>>Feed them on your own risk – as long as you feed the Russians they’ll stay
>>around and will disturb the peace and beauty of any imaginable local
>>(except in Hell!). When fed, Russians fall asleep immediately, unless
>>additionally intoxicated by alcohol – in the latter case they become
>>restless and start shouting their songs that make the fog horn sound
>>musical. Don’t try to help Russians out of your area by giving them
>>directions – they have no understanding of geography and only get confused
>>by words like “right” and “left”. In some areas giving Russians the wrong
>>directions has become a local tradition and a source of endless (albeit
>>somewhat rustic) amusement. As you’ve guessed, Russians can sometimes mimic
>>the human speech, but have no real understanding of it. Their own
>>communication system is no more pleasant to a refined listener than the
>>sound of a chainsaw cutting through a live pig. Pay no attention to it, it
>>is not meant to deliver any more information than the interior of the milk
>>carton.
>>It’s easy to handle Russians if you remember that the brute force and
>>natural command quality of the superior human race are the only things that
>>Russians take a notice of. A five year old child of a Lithuanian mother has
>>enough power in him to send a dozen of Russians packing. Raise the voice
>>and they run scared, back to the protective shadow of the woods. Edibility
>>- edible with Russian Dressing from Kraft Foods.
>>
>> JEWS – smaller than Russians (next to a Lithuanian a Jew appears like
>>nothing but a dwarf) and more dark-skinned. Bid deceiving eyes, huge nose
>>pointing downward, long worm-like fingers trembling with greed will shout
>>”A JEW!” right at you. Unlike Russians, Jew don’t form hordes; instead they
>>live in families where old Jews teach the young one the secrets of lying
>>and cheating. Jews are much smarter than Russians (oh, like that’s a big
>>achievement) and much harder to get rid off. No one knows where they came
>>from or where they will go, when they go away. A Jew would not be a match
>>for a fair Lithuanian lad in any sport, but they often get ahead whereever
>>their cheating, lying and stealing goes unnoticed. Even Russians don’t like
>>the Jews, not through systematic analysis and weighted judgement, like
>>Lithuanians, but through some native, druid-like gut feeling of the wild
>>wood dwellers. Jews never have pets of their own – unlike Russians, who
>>drag around their udly bastards of dogs and cats everywhere they set their
>>own dirty feet, Jews detest sharing their quarters with any living being
>>other than themselves. Or maybe it’s the living that are keeping away from
>>these creepy bloodsuckers. Edibility – don’t bother.
>>
>>The full text of this very useful and good-humored manual will be available
>>in the fall from Mein Kampf Publishing House in Vilnus. It will also cover
>>such important subjects as “33 ways to get rid of the Gypsies and their
>>eggs”, “Midgets – small people or big bugs?”, “There is a Russian on my
>>bus!”, “Odor management for a Jew-slayer”, “I did not know Russians ate my
>>newspapers untill I called my psychic”, “What you do not know about the
>>Jews may make your daughter marry one of them” and many more.
>>
>>For entertainment purpose only.

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