Grosvenor William, Cga Cnada

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Subject: WHY GROSVENOR NOT REQUIRED TO CONFORM TO ETHICS CODE??
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As Mr. Grosvenor is a CGA, he is no doubt familiar with the
CGA’s “Ethics Readings Handbook,” Michael McDonald, PhD,
Editor. Dr. McDonald is the Maurice Young Professor of Applied
Ethics at the University of British Columbia.

In Section D, which deals with Accounting Ethics, we find the
following comments with regard to the CGA’s Code of Ethics:

“First, the Code provides a set of standards which members can
regard as a minimum level of acceptable conduct. It makes
clear to a member the kind of behavior professional colleagues
deem essential…

“Second, it provides to the public an assurance that the
profession is imposing on itself high standards by which it is
willing to be judged. It provides to clients, employers, and
the public generally a measuring rod against which to assess
the accountant’s performance.

“Third, the Code forms the basis of a disciplinary procedure
through which allegations of professional misconduct are
addressed.”

“The standards are described as setting ‘a minimum level of
acceptable conduct’ for the CGA.”

Let’s keep that phrase, “minimum level of conduct,” in mind,
shall we, Mr. Grosvenor?

One of your duties, Mr. Grosvenor, as a CGA, is to conduct
yourself “in a manner which will enhance the image of the
profession.” (401)

One of your obligations, Mr. Grosvenor, is that you “shall not
discriminate against a person because of the race, colour,
sex, age, religion, national extraction, or social origin of
such person.” (409)

Another obligation, Mr. Grosvenor, is that you “shall not
participate in any action which is detrimental to the
association.” (507) Your public pronouncements relating to the
CGA’s student program clearly violate section 507, in my
opinion. Section 607, in fact, charges members – that’s you,
Mr. Grosvenor – to “encourage and assist students in their
professional development…” and your publications most
certainly violate that requirement.

It is my opinion, based upon your public pronouncements here
and elsewhere on the UseNet, that you are in violation of
several sections of your profession’s Code of Ethics, which
includes the following provisions:

“A member shall be subject to disciplinary action for any
offence which constitutes a breach of professional conduct.
(1001)

“A member who has been convicted of any criminal or similar
offense which may cast doubt as to that member’s honesty,
integrity, or professional competency, may be charged with
professional misconduct by the member’s Provincial Ethics
Committee. In such cases, a certificate of conviction by any
competent court shall be sufficient evidence of the conviction
and the perpetration of the offence.” (1003)

An article has been published here, purporting to be from ALBERTA
REPORT which state that you have been convicted of criminal offenses
– to wit, assault and extortion. Are those articles correct,
Mr. Grosvenor? Is your provincial CGA Ethics Committee aware
of this alleged criminal record?

Given the information available to the public about your past
record and behavior, Mr. Grosvenor, I find it amazing that you
have the gall to continue your diatribes against the Jewish
community.

It is clear that the Ghermezians managed to shut you up.
Perhaps the Jewish community will follow similar legal avenues
and do the same one day.

You are a disgrace to Canada.

[Archival note: Queries regarding CGA CANADA’s Code of Ethics and
Professional Conduct should be directed to [email protected]]


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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Ken Lewis) wrote of “William Grosvenor” ..

>And you, sir, are an idiot who is determined to avoid
>the truth at all costs.
>Repeated postings here have proven that your assertion is false.

>It would appear you have joined the ranks of the Giwer-trolls.

Indeed. Consider the following… Mr. “Grosvenor” publishes an
article from time to time which denegrates Certified General
Accountants here in Canada, and ridicules their professional
training program.

(A copy of one of these rants is available as URL http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/ grosvenor.william/1996/accountant-rant [one line])

The article further makes undocumented claims about several
individuals he identifies as CGA’s.

That, however, is not the issue. The issue is Mr. Grosvenor’s
intregrity, as he claims to be a CGA himself. That being the
case, I thought it would be interesting to examine the Code of
Ethics and Rules of Professional Conduct which govern the
professional behavior of CGAs in Canada..

If Mr. Grosvenor is, as he claims to be, a CGA, then he is,
quite clearly, in breach of his Association’s code of conduct,
i.e. he has no professional integrity.

If Mr. Grosvenor is not the CGA he claims to be, he has no
personal _or_ professional integrity, but is the simple liar
he appears to be here on the net.

Take your pick.

Duties to the profession
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a member…

401 CONDUCT

Shall always be mindful of the duties and
responsibilities associated with being a member of the
profession, and shall carry on work with fidelity to clients
or employers and loyalty to the Association, in a manner which
will enhance the image of the profession.

[Read Mr. Grosvenor’s rant about CGA’s and ask yourself if it
is consistent with section 401]

404 DISCREDIT

Shall not permit the firm name or the member’s name to
be used with, participate in, or provide services to, any
practice, pronouncement, or act which would be of a nature to
discredit the profession.

[Read Mr. Grosvenor’s rant about CGA’s and ask yourself if it
is consistent with section 404]

409 DISCRIMINATION

Shall not discriminate against a person because of the
race, colour, sex, age, religion, natural extraction, or
social origin of such person.

[Read Mr. Grosvenor’s rants about Jews and homosexuals and ask
yourself if it is consistent with section 409]

Duties to the association
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507 DETREMENTAL ACTIONS

Shall not participate in any action which is
detremental to the Association

[Read Mr. Grosvenor’s rant about CGA’s, and his behavior here
on the net, and ask yourself if it is consistent with section 507]

Duties of members
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603 PUBLIC STATEMENT

Shall not make a public statement:
(a) on the incompetence of another member of the Association
(b) detremental to the reputation of another member of
the Association

[Read Mr. Grosvenor’s rant about CGA’s and ask yourself if it
is consistent with section 603]

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