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Grosvenor Part 9, 1996

Since you are not in the province of Quebec, one may assume that you are
another of the anglo trouble-makers, trying to criticise the sensible
Quebecois, who are really starting to dislike the JEWS.

In fact, they are probably cheering the demise of Bronfman, who has gone
to the great synagogue in the sky.

On 2 Dec 1996, Juanita Farnsworth wrote:
> ([email protected]) writes:
One may assume that Durocher has finally started to think, and is now
questioning the role of JEWS in Quebec.

> > On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Jean-Yves Durocher wrote:
> >> Un homme qui se pose des questions, et il y a de quoi sur
> >> l’intelligence de certains, =E9crit:
> >> >[email protected] wrote:
I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> >> >> > Holocaust denial is, by definition, anti-Semitic.

Only the damn JEWS consider questioning the holohoax to be anti-semitic.
Respected authors such as Irving, for example, have well documented cases
contradicting the jewish version of events in WWII.

Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
Soviet documents.

> >> >> > Think about it: (a) If the Holocaust never occured, then we are all
> >> >> > victims of a monstrous hoax of unimaginable proportions; (b) Such a =
> > hoax
> >> >> > could only have been perpetrated by a vast international conspiracy,=
> > due
> >> >> > to the SCALE of the evidence supporting it, and the number of people=
> > who
> >> >> > believe it; (c) No one would perpetrate such a huge and difficult ho=
> > ax
> >> >> > unless it served their interests; (d) The people who could be said t=
> > o
> >> >> > benefit MOST from such a hoax would be the Jews and the zionist
> >> >> > movement.
> >
> >> >> > THEREFORE, the Holocaust could only be a hoax if there is an
> >> >> > all-powerful international Jewish conspiracy. You MUST believe in th=
> > e
> >> >> > conspiracy to accept Zundel’s claims.

Reading about who controls media in most western nations, as well as who
controls movies, leads to the logical conclusion that JEWS are attempting
to distort history, and public perception, to their own ends.

> The conspiracy theory is one of the underpinnings of anti-Semitism.

> Besides, the subtext of the denial argument is that the Jews are all a
> bunch of whiney liars out to control the world by playing on sympathy.
> THAT is libel.

Now that thinking people, especially in Quebec are questioning the
incidents with a JEWISH aspect, Quebecers are no longer prepared to accept
the Jewish versions of history.

After all what about the JEW BRONFMAN, who illegally moved more than 2.2
BILLION dollars out of Quebec and Canada, without paying the Income Taxes
on it? This resulted in tens of thousands more unemployed in Quebec.

He still did not get to enjoy his billions. God in His wisdom decided that
Bronfman did not deserve to enjoy all his billions, so Bronfman died from
cancer. Justice???

What about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the resignation of the
popular Quebec Lieutenant Governor M.Roux?

What about the JEW Howard Galganov, formerly with the Jewish terrorist
Group called Jewish defence League, and his anti-Quebec activities?

What about the Bnai Brith Jews, now openly supporting Presto Manning and
the western Reform Party?

And, why should JEWS in Quebec be allowed to break the French language
label laws, while normal Catholics must obey the laws of Quebec???

> Juanita Farnsworth Triple T Cedar Resort
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On Mon, 2 Dec 1996 [email protected] wrote:
> Alan Ball wrote:
> > As to history books, they are a treasured component of what make us human
> > and more or less knowledgable. They are also infinite in their subjects and
> > points of view : this is why we will need historians till the end of time
> > and that they will debate till the end of time. I’ll choose to follow, not
> > blindly, the sources summarizing previous efforts and current findings if I
> > am confident in their methodology and record of scientific recognition.
> > This criterium might not be totally errorproof, but I place it a million
> > times higher than any pamphlet coming from any political or religious
> > movement. Your technique of discussion and the reactions NOI’s book is
> > getting in this thread from a large number of eminent scholars comfort me
> > in my apprehensions of your goals…

I am delighted by your response which contains not a single trace of
historical rebuttal to a single point that I have made. I do not know why
you would think that I have the slightest bit of interest in your opinion,
just as I don’t know why anyone would be slightly interested in mine. A
revered scholar of Jewish history, however, might be someone worth
listening to.
Example: Dr. Jacob Rader Marcus, United States Jewry, 1776-1985
(Detroit: Wayne State University Press, 1989), p. 586:>

“All through the eighteenth century, into the early nineteenth,
Jews in the North were to own black servants; in the South, the few
plantations owned by Jews were tilled with slave labor. In 1820, over 75
percent of all Jewish families in Charleston, Richmond, and Savannah
owned slaves, employed as domestic servants; almost 40 percent of all Jewish
householders in the United States owned one slave or more. There were no
protests against slavery as such by Jews in the South, where they were
always outnumbered at least 100 to 1….

But very few Jews anywhere in the United States protested against
chattel slavery on moral grounds.”

Even though I have presented quote after quote after quote (see above)
>from said scholars ad infinitum you have chosen to completely ignore their
words and focus on me as if their words were actually mine.

I know that you don’t like what is firmly on paper in the books and
articles of these eminent Jewish scholars but this is your burden, not mine.
Here is a clue: You can convince me, even change my opinion, if you would
simply present evidence that contradicts that which I have presented on
this ng. When you DO NOT, the only conclusion one has the option to reach
is that you CAN NOT which renders you and your argument lame and
devoid of circumstance. Your responses, thus far, have been securely
affixed to this category.

Additionally, to examine our own Black history is a function we will
continue to engage in completely aloof from and untethered to any
overseer or straw boss. It is a human right and the duty of every free
man or woman to study and record their history. Such examination will,
in short order, reveal to the seeker the reason for White resistance to
such endeavor.

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Are you allowed to correspond publicly in English, under the revised
language laws of Quebec?

Or, are JEWS allowed to break the language laws of Quebec, and are you one
of these?

On 1 Dec 1996, Ken Quinn wrote:
> [email protected] wrote in article

> > You still failed to answer the questions regarding, DO JEWS OWN or
> > CONTROL QUEBEC?

> If you take your medication as prescribed, and you take a peek at the
> makeup of our government and our civil service, you will see that the
> province is overwhelmingly controlled, or managed – if you will, by French
> speaking gentiles.

Since when is the JEW BRONFMAN a Catholic gentile?

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I see that another Canadian criminal is upset with the sensible justice
systems in Singapore and Malaysia.

In those countries, they know how to execute criminals, swiftly and at
moderate cost to the taxpayers. they do not care from what country you
come.If a dope dealer, you are dead,soon.

On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, John Anonymous MacDonald wrote:
> William Grosvenor’s ideas for the advancement of civilization:

What is really needed in Canada is the enlightened policy regarding DRUGS
imposed by Malaysia and Singapore. In those civilised countries,
possession of drugs imposes automatically the DEATH PENALTY.

This policy makes sure that the subhumans involved with drugs get what
they deserve, namely a short rope trip at their own hanging.

The criticism of the proper police actions probably came from some drug
dealer, most of whom are disease spreading AIDS faggots anyway.

If Canada were as strict as civilised malaysia and Singapore, we would
just execute the drug dealers,and thereby save space in the prisons for
other Canadian criminals.

I would sooner support the MODERN DRUG LAWS OF MALAYSIA and SINGAPORE.
In these countries if you have drugs, it is an automatic death penalty.
It helps to keep the streets clear of garbage, drug users.

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> In William Grosvenor’s beloved Singapore, where alcohol and nicotine are
> consumed legally and liberally, it is illegal to:

> import chewing gum ($10,000 fine)
> feed the birds ($1,000 fine)
> not flush a public toilet
> smoke (tobacco)
> pick flowers

> If William Grosvenor truly takes _no_ drugs, legal or not (the body doesn’t
> know legal from illegal), then he still has zero right to tell others how
> to live their lives. He should study the writings of James Madison, who
> wrote and warned about the “Tyranny of the Majority.”

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See, the mentally-challenged moonlite can not even differentiate between
ve6yj and the old curmudgeon.

Mind you, what can one expect from a functionally illiterate refugee from
communist China?

At least in PRC, the government there knows how to take care iof problems,
such as useless students, faggots, and similar criminals.That is why the
PRC has camps for such criminals to be re-educated, and where they can
concentrate.

On 29 Nov 1996 [email protected] wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> : This is all part of the irony a vengeful God plays on His humans; requires a
> : LIFETIME of experience to learn to act responsibly – but no brains whatsoever
> : to screw and make babies …
> This explains why you, Grosswhiner and the rest of you rightoids
> exist…if only your folks put on a condom, we’d be spared your venomous
> and bigotted rantings…
>
>

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Have huge 10 volume European Matchbox Cover Collection, finely mounted on
black pages in Schaubeck albums.

Will trade all for quality stamp collection of similar value.

The collection will be shipped from Canada,and takes a large apple carton
in volume.

Other trade offers may be considered, such as solid gold pocket
watch,double case preferred, or???

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I do not know where you live, but in Canada many of us still believe in
freedom of expression, freedom of the press, and the widest dissemination
of the truth.

It could be that you belong to a vocal minority, involved in suppression
of discussion, opposed to freedom of speech, and supporters of the
holohoax?

On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Harry S. Margel Communications Inc. wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:

I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Matt Friedman wrote:
> > > Joey wrote:
I have recently visited Zundel’s site and find nothing outrageous or
inflammatory there. He simply sheds a new light on facts he believes
have been manipulated by Jews. I have found no evidence in what I’ve
read that is insulting or degrading to Jews. He does not deny Jews’
right to existence or try to instill hate towards them. Whether he is
right or wrong, he should have the right to express his views. Many
people who call Zundel a racist and anti-semite don’t even know what he
is about.

> > > Holocaust denial is, by definition, anti-Semitic.

Actually, the term HOLOCAUST originally referred to the Turkish slaughter
of the Armenians in the early 1900’s. The termn was then used by jew pr
hacks as their term for the alleged people who disappeared in WWII.
Only the damn JEWS consider questioning the holohoax to be anti-semitic.
Respected authors such as Irving, for example, have well documented cases
contradicting the jewish version of events in WWII.

Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
Soviet documents.

> > > Think about it: (a) If the Holocaust never occured, then we are all
> > > victims of a monstrous hoax of unimaginable proportions; (b) Such a hoax
> > > could only have been perpetrated by a vast international conspiracy, due
> > > to the SCALE of the evidence supporting it, and the number of people who
> > > believe it; (c) No one would perpetrate such a huge and difficult hoax
> > > unless it served their interests; (d) The people who could be said to
> > > benefit MOST from such a hoax would be the Jews and the zionist
> > > movement.

> > > THEREFORE, the Holocaust could only be a hoax if there is an
> > > all-powerful international Jewish conspiracy. You MUST believe in the
> > > conspiracy to accept Zundel’s claims.

> > > The conspiracy theory is one of the underpinnings of anti-Semitism.

> > > Besides, the subtext of the denial argument is that the Jews are all a
> > > bunch of whiney liars out to control the world by playing on sympathy.
> > > THAT is libel.

Now that thinking people, especially in Quebec are questioning the
incidents with a JEWISH aspect, Quebecers are no longer prepared to accept
the Jewish versions of history.

What about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the resignation of the
popular Quebec Lieutenant Governor M.Roux?

What about the JEW Howard Galganov, formerly with the Jewish terrorist
Group called Jewish defence League, and his anti-Quebec activities?

What about the Bnai Brith Jews, now openly supporting Presto Manning and
the western Reform Party?

And, why should JEWS in Quebec be allowed to break the French language
label laws, while normal Catholics must obey the laws of Quebec???

> I don’t know about the “JEWS”, but I understand that the Jews were in
> fact approached by officers regarding this matter which was then
> resolved with the government.

You still did not respond to the above point made, namely why should the
more than 98% of non-JEWS in Quebec have to obey the French label laws,
while only the cursed JEWS are able somehow to avoid the laws of sovereign
Quebec? The Catholics and Christians of other sects MUST obey the laws,
while the JEWS break the laws with impunity.

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It seems that many of the respondents to the sensible comments of Ed
Panker, just do not believe in the concept of RESPONSIBILITY!!!

On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Vera Casteel wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]

And what part of that equation excuses the PARENTS of said “people” to take
hold of their responsibility and also set something aside to put the kids
through … hmm?

Why not think about THAT before bedding some woman, doing the horizontal
mambo, squeezing out kids, THEN fretting about how they are going to be
clothed, fed, and SCHOOLED!

This is all part of the irony a vengeful God plays on His humans; requires a
LIFETIME of experience to learn to act responsibly – but no brains whatsoever
to screw and make babies …

> And what about those parents who planned their children because they had
> plenty of money for schooling, clothing, feeding, etc. and then end up
> losing their jobs? Things happen in life which people can’t help and
> can’t necessarily plan for.

If people are too stupid to put aside money for “a rainy day”, then they
must accept their own responsibility for their offspring.

> What about those parents who are young and just starting their careers,
> maybe not having enough money to put the kid through school yet or even
> set aside money for that, but they move up in their careers later and are
> making plenty of money to help their kids through school?

If they are old enough to now have students ready for a so-called
education beyond grade 12, then they are old enough to know better. They
should have put aside some of their tobacco,booze,and bingo money for the
education of their children.

> What about kids in foster homes who don’t *have* parents? Should they be
> working at McD’s the rest of their life because their parents aren’t even
> *alive* anymore? Gee… the parents couldn’t plan for that one.

If the student has any initiative, combined with a modicum of
intelligence, there are more than enough bursaries and scholarships for
those students deserving.

I maintain that all students should first EARN the FULL COSTS of their
education, before entering any advanced education institution.

If, instead of paying only the present 14-18% of the costs of their mainly
useless courses,they had to pay ALL 100%, then perhaps they would be
annoyed enough to ensure that there would be a job, should they graduate.

Also, perhaps the students would also accept the responsibility of
ensuring they got proper instructors, who actually had recent, relevant
experience in the real world, rather than just sinecured snivel
servants sitting on their posteriors because they are unemployable.

I support the government policies of refusing to allow student loans to be
extinguished by bankruptcy. If you can’t pay it back, don’t borrow in the
first place.

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Have 26 foot military parachute in great condition.Ideal for sports
activities, use as tent, car cover,etc..

Will sell for cash offer, or consider trading for useful item of interest
to me.

I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to proposals such as
solid gold doublecased man’s pocket watch with chain, good Motherboard
with P166 or equivalent???

From [email protected] Tue Dec 3 09:36:55 PST 1996
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On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, raterman wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:

I do not know where you live, but in Canada many of us still believe in
freedom of expression, freedom of the press, and the widest dissemination
of the truth.

It could be that you belong to a vocal minority, involved in suppression
of discussion, opposed to freedom of speech, and supporters of the
holohoax?

> > On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Harry S. Margel Communications Inc. wrote:
> > > [email protected] wrote:

I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> > > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Matt Friedman wrote:
> > > > > Joey wrote:
I have recently visited Zundel’s site and find nothing outrageous or
inflammatory there. He simply sheds a new light on facts he believes
have been manipulated by Jews. I have found no evidence in what I’ve
read that is insulting or degrading to Jews. He does not deny Jews’
right to existence or try to instill hate towards them. Whether he is
right or wrong, he should have the right to express his views. Many
people who call Zundel a racist and anti-semite don’t even know what he
is about.

> > > > > Holocaust denial is, by definition, anti-Semitic.

Respected authors such as Irving, for example, have well documented cases
contradicting the jewish version of events in WWII.

Even the Soviets, when they captured Auschwitz, found documentation
confirming that only 72,000 Jews died there,according to recently released
Soviet documents.

> Think about it: (a) If the Holocaust never occured, then we are all
> victims of a monstrous hoax of unimaginable proportions; (b) Such a hoax
> could only have been perpetrated by a vast international conspiracy, due
> to the SCALE of the evidence supporting it, and the number of people who
> believe it; (c) No one would perpetrate such a huge and difficult hoax
> unless it served their interests; (d) The people who could be said to
> benefit MOST from such a hoax would be the Jews and the zionist
> movement.

> THEREFORE, the Holocaust could only be a hoax if there is an
> all-powerful international Jewish conspiracy. You MUST believe in the
> conspiracy to accept Zundel’s claims.

> The conspiracy theory is one of the underpinnings of anti-Semitism.

> Besides, the subtext of the denial argument is that the Jews are all a
> bunch of whiney liars out to control the world by playing on sympathy.
> THAT is libel.

Now that thinking people, especially in Quebec are questioning the
incidents with a JEWISH aspect, Quebecers are no longer prepared to accept
the Jewish versions of history.

Even Bronfman could not take it with him, when he died this weekend, so
why take it out of Quebec???

What about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the resignation of the
popular Quebec Lieutenant Governor M.Roux?

What about the JEW Howard Galganov, formerly with the Jewish terrorist
Group called Jewish defence League, and his anti-Quebec activities?

What about the Bnai Brith Jews, now openly supporting Presto Manning and
the western Reform Party?

And, why should JEWS in Quebec be allowed to break the French language
label laws, while normal Catholics must obey the laws of Quebec???

> > > I don’t know about the “JEWS”, but I understand that the Jews were in
> > > fact approached by officers regarding this matter which was then
> > > resolved with the government.

> you are a nazi piece of shit

Coming frome une piece de merde, you should be ashamed …..

From [email protected] Tue Dec 3 09:40:21 PST 1996
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What a load of pure garbage!!!

What is really needed in Canada is the enlightened policy regarding DRUGS
imposed by Malaysia and Singapore. In those civilised countries,
possession of drugs imposes automatically the DEATH PENALTY.

This policy makes sure that the subhumans involved with drugs get what
they deserve, namely a short rope trip at their own hanging.

On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, John Anonymous MacDonald wrote:
> The following story about Dave Brandt was recently (11-30-96) posted in
> news:alt.hemp.politics Within 13 hours, three responses were posted, all
> from Canada.

> The world, and Americans in particular, need to be aware of the ignorance
> regarding Drug Prohibition that flourishes in Canada (especially since the
> USA may well annex the Canadian border states in 10 to 15 years, because of
> their “natural resources”). Do not be misled by the progressivity of HempBC.
> Unless the law has been changed in the last two years, possession of “High
> Times” magazine is illegal in Canada!

> The story about Dave Brandt is repeated below, along with the comments of
> three profoundly ignorant Canadians:

> Mike Sugimoto
> mailto:[email protected]
> http://www.islandnet.com/~phloem/contact.html
> self described as: gat/md/t/s, dreamer, shaper, singer, maker
> “to cure sometimes, to relieve often, to comfort always.”

> Don Wagner
> mailto:[email protected]
> #304 – 1803 Douglas Street
> Victoria, B.C. V8T 5C3
> Canada

> Mike Drummond
> mailto:[email protected]
> #203 – 6811 Sellers Avenue
> Burnaby, B.C. V5J 4R2
> Canada

> > COP WITH STICKY FINGERS NABS TWO REMOTE CONTROL PLANES IN DRUG RAID

> > Drug charges result in job loss, eviction and theft of personal property
> > by police in growing Surrey (B.C. Canada) metropolis. Similar things may
> > happen to anyone caught growing and/or possessing marijunan in Canada.
> > With the crowded jail conditions at Surrey Pretrial Detention Center,
> > which violate the Geneva Convention, human rights violations are a daily
> > occurrence for criminals in Surrey, B.C. But could it be the work of a
> > cop desparate for extra cash due to federal budget slashing?

> >> Mike Sugimoto (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:

I don’t believe this. “Violations of the Geneva Convention”? Perhaps you’d
like to quote the appropriate section of the Convention charter and refer
that to us? Reality Check: The Geneva Convention ensures protection for
prisoners taken during *international conflict*, not in domestic law
enforcement operations. Those rights are secured by the Canadian
constitution and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

As for the rights violations of the prisonners.. You feel more sorry for
the criminals, or the people they’ve committed crimes against?

I agree completely with the above comments.

The critcisim of the proper police actions probably came from some drug
dealer, most of whom are disease spreading AIDS faggots anyway.

> > Crimes the Surrey Royal Canadian Mounted Police did commit in raiding
> > Brandt’s home:
> > 1. Theft of two remote control planes
> > 2. Perjury, in denying the planes were taken
> > 3. Obstruction of justice (see 2 above)
> > 4. Possible criminal conspiracy in covering up this theft.

> > Conclusion:

> > A police officer in the RCMP, during the course of his duty, did
> > knowingly allow the theft of two radio controlled planes.

> > WARNING!

> > Citizens in Surrey contemplating growing and/or using marijuana are
> > advised that they should keep their valuables (not the herb) under lock
> > and key. Due to budget restraint, more and more police may stoop to
> > petty thievery to make ends meet.

> >> Mike Sugimoto (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:

“Citizens in Surrey contemplating growing and/or using marijuana are
advised that this is a criminal offense, and if you’re found in possession
of the drug, you will be charged under the Canadian Criminal Code.
Regardless of whether it’s locked up.”

If Canada were as strict as civilised malaysia and Singapore, we would
just execute the drug dealers,and thereby save space in the prisons for
other Canadian criminals.

> > —————– from the Cannabis Canada mail list —————–
> > SEVEN MONTHS FOR FIFTY PLANTS IN BC

> > Dave Brandt is a regular guy who likes to grow pot. Because of this he’s
> > been sentenced to seven months in maximum security, he’s lost his job and
> > his home, and the cops stole his model planes.

> >> Mike Sugimoto (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:
My heart is breaking.

You break the law, you go to jail. Whether I agree or disagree about the
illegality of marijuana is not the issue – the fact is that under existing
Canadian law, growing, possessing, or using it is illegal, and so you go
to jail: do not pass go, do not collect $200.

> >>> Mike Drummond (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:
Sounds more like a drug trafficer than a ‘regular guy’ to me.

> > In mid-June, cops raided the Surrey home of Dave Brandt. When Dave returned
> > home from his job working as a mechanic and welder he discovered that his
> > house had been ransacked, and that his fifty pot plants and cultivation
> > equipment was missing, along with a pair of remote controlled planes which
> > he owned.

> >>> Mike Drummond (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:
A mechanic? I wouldn’t want him working on my car or other equipment.

50 pot plants? Just for “personal use” right?

> > His brother told him that police had raided the house, pointing their guns
> > at him as they emptied the place out.

> > Two days later the police showed up at Dave’s place of work, charged him
> > with cultivation of marijuana, and arrested him. Dave explained that the
> > cops treated him “like a murderer”, not as someone who had simply grown
> > forbidden plants.

> > In cases like this the accused is normally released without bail on a
> > promise to appear, but Dave was denied bail because the prosecution claimed
> > he would start another grow operation. Dave spent about 5 weeks in jail
> > before being released by a judge, but his troubles didn’t end there.

> > Three days after finally being released on bail, his probation officer
> > ordered him returned to prison. This was because Dave had admitted that he
> > had a suspicion who had ratted on his grow operation and called
> > Crimestoppers. Dave explained to me that [he] valued his freedom and that
> > he hadn’t made any attempt to confirm his suspicions or to confront anyone.
> > Nevertheless, he was returned to prison.

> > Dave was denied legal aid since he had a job, but since he was in prison he
> > couldn’t work and so couldn’t afford a lawyer. He defended himself, plead
> > guilty, and in August was sentenced to four months imprisonment, on top of
> > the three months he had already spent in prison waiting for trial. He is
> > scheduled to be released on December 22.

> > Dave’s brother was also charged, sentenced to 18 months probation and 45
> > community hours, and forbidden to live with Dave for three months. Dave
> > explained that his brother is a “slow learner” who can’t hold a regular job
> > and is dependent upon Dave for support. Dave described his brother as his
> > “best friend” and said it was a tremendous blow to know that he would be
> > separated from him even after being released from prison.

> >>> Mike Drummond (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:
Probably a slow learner because of all the pot smoking earlier in life…

> > Aside from the loss of seven months of his life and the personal violation
> > and humiliation of being stuck in a maximum security prison with violent
> > and sexual offenders, Dave is angry that the cops stole his remote control
> > planes and helicopter. He’d built them himself from kits, and was proud of
> > his collection.

> > The cops deny taking the planes, but Dave explained that the planes were
> > sitting in his bedroom as he had planned on flying them after work, and
> > that they weren’t there after his house was raided. No doubt some narc made
> > a personal seizure.

> > The cops also seized all of Dave’s grow books, copies of magazines like
> > Hempfest Times, High Times, and of course Cannabis Canada, as well as his
> > collection of 86 pipes, many of which he had made himself.

> > At the going rate of $325 per prisoner per day, it has cost BC taxpayers
> > about $60,000 to keep Dave locked up. This figure doesn’t include the tens
> > of thousands of dollars spent on court costs and associated expenses, nor
> > the many police hours spent investigating Dave, seizing, cataloging and
> > destroying his property, and testifying against him in court.

> > Because of the arrest and the time he’s spending in jail, Rob has lost his
> > job and been evicted the home he was renting with his brother. Before the
> > prohibition enforcers intruded into his life Dave was a working taxpayer
> > who supported his dependent brother. When he is released from jail he will
> > be homeless, unemployed, broke, and with a criminal record. His brother has
> > had to move in with his mother for support, but Dave wants to live with his
> > brother again as soon as possible.

> >>>> Don Wagner (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:
You forgot to describe what the RENTED (Property of someone else) home
looked like after your hero converted it to a greenhouse. You forgot to
describe the bypasses on the Hydro meter where your hero stole power

If your hero cant do the time, then don’t do the crime.

> > Sadly, Dave’s story is a common one. There are tens of thousands of people
> > all across Canada who have their lives viciously torn apart by our nation’s
> > archaic drug laws.

I would sooner support the MODERN DRUG LAWS OF MALAYSIA and SINGAPORE. In
these countries if you have drugs, it is an automatic death penalty. It
helps to keep the streets clear of garbage, drug users.

> > To get in touch with Dave Brandt, you can leave a message with Randy Caine
> > of The Joint in Surrey, at (604) 583-7004, or on his brother’s message
> > pager at (604) 252-4822.

> >>> Mike Drummond (mailto:[email protected]) wrote:
These guys who want pot legalized have been smoking too much already.
Just what we need, a bunch of stoned losers running around trying to
function in society. More like malfunction.

> Besides stupidly supporting Prohibition, which has fostered violence and
> official corruption on a level unseen since 1933, these three ignorant
> Canadians believe in:

> 1) violating prisoners’ rights
> 2) unconstitutional overcrowding of jails
> 3) “break the law, go to jail”, regardless of the offense or the fairness
> of the law
> 4) assuming a pot grower is a drug trafficker, while real drug traffickers
> (alcohol & nicotine merchants) ply their lethal, legal drugs daily
> 5) the falsehood that growing pot is committing a crime against people
> 6) assuming that growing pot at home somehow damages the home
> 7) being insensitive to “slow learners”, while displaying their own
> profound resistance to being able to learn

My suggestion to these three blind mice is that they take up residence in
Singapore (news:soc.culture.singapore). They’ll feel much more at home
there, until they break a law such as spitting on the sidewalk, picking
flowers, not flushing a public urinal, importing chewing gum, etc.

But after all, “break the law, go to jail”…

They’re lucky that stupidity isn’t a crime in Canada (yet).

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From [email protected] Tue Dec 3 09:50:27 PST 1996
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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 07:41:54 -0700
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Actually, Islam considers Jews brothers and sisters, since both religions
accept the founding of Abraham.

In the case of the marriage of one rich JEWISH female, to a rich Islamic
male, so what. It may be just a marriage of convenience, so that both
families get into the news,at leats into TIME>

On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Gailani wrote:
> [email protected] (Red Herring) wrote:
> >>-On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:14:21 -0600, Tamara Lavorgna
> >>- wrote:
> >>->Is that true that a pretty jewish girl, a daughter of 5th richest guy in
> >>->Britain married to a Pakistani sportsman who is twice her age?

> >>->If it is, then how it happened and when?

> >>- She was a self-hater. Thankfully, she converted to Islam
> >>- and therefore is no longer Jewish.

> >>- I wish all self-haters followed her lead.

> Thanks, we welcome all self haters and convert them to self lovers.
> I think it is good for them and society in general. So come on, we will take
> care of you.
> gailani

From [email protected] Tue Dec 3 11:10:48 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: No Bankruptcy On Student Loans?
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It seems that many of the respondents to the sensible comments of Ed
Panker, just do not believe in the concept of RESPONSIBILITY!!!

On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Vera Casteel wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]

And what part of that equation excuses the PARENTS of said “people” to take
hold of their responsibility and also set something aside to put the kids
through … hmm?

Why not think about THAT before bedding some woman, doing the horizontal
mambo, squeezing out kids, THEN fretting about how they are going to be
clothed, fed, and SCHOOLED!

This is all part of the irony a vengeful God plays on His humans; requires a
LIFETIME of experience to learn to act responsibly – but no brains whatsoever
to screw and make babies …

If people are too stupid to put aside money for “a rainy day”, then they
must accept their own responsibility for their offspring.

If the student has any initiative, combined with a modicum of
intelligence, there are more than enough bursaries and scholarships for
those students deserving.

I maintain that all students should first EARN the FULL COSTS of their
education, before entering any advanced education institution.

I support the government policies of refusing to allow student loans to be
extinguished by bankruptcy. If you can’t pay it back, don’t borrow in the
first place.

From [email protected] Tue Dec 3 18:02:12 PST 1996
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Further to the previous comments, there is only one cure for the disease
spreading faggots – INSTANT CREMATION!!!

On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Edward Williams wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Erik wrote:
> > >I’m amazed at the ammount of homophobia there is here. This is the
> > >21st century already…. where people should have the right to
> > >anything they want with their bodies or lives providing it is not
> > >harmful to another…..whether it is sex, drugs, or any other
> > >activity…..

> > Well, some of us just don’t like queers and think that the act of
> > queerism is… well…. queer!

> Homophobia is not the correct word. It is not (in most) a fear of fags,
> its an utter hatred of a man afraid to be a man, a piece of shit that
> likes to take it up the ass. I am not afraid of faggots, I just think
> that the entire personality attached to the practice is only worthy of a
> bullet.
Y

From [email protected] Wed Dec 4 05:39:09 PST 1996
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Further to the previous comments, there is only one cure for the disease
spreading faggots – INSTANT CREMATION!!!

> > Well, some of us just don’t like queers and think that the act of
> > queerism is… well…. queer!

From [email protected] Wed Dec 4 06:16:07 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Homophobia on the net- cremate the faggots!!!….
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:24:57 -0700
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Actually, the foul faggots DO affect every normal human being!!!

Have you not heard of AIDS, the disease spread deliberately by faggots?
Have you not read the book “AND THE BAND PLAYED ON”, which details the
spread of AIDS worldwide, deliberately, by the Canadian faggot with Air
Canada?

Do you not know of the spread of AIDS by faggots deliberately giving
infected blood to blood donor services?

On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, D-Man wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Dec 1996 06:03:29 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

> >Well, some of us just don’t like queers and think that the act of
> >queerism is… well…. queer!

> As if. Who cares? Do they put the moves on you? True gays tend to hang
> around with gays. So tell me how that affects you one bit? There are a
> lot of groups in this world that conflict with certain beliefs but
> that is tough. Gays have been around for 1000s of years. Just live
> with it. I am not sure how homophobia is useful or relevant. Do Gays
> affect you at all???? Didn’t think so.

The only good queer is a cremated one, whether alive or not doesn’t matter
with such diseased pieces of excrement.

From [email protected] Thu Dec 5 08:04:14 PST 1996
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Subject: Televisual nightmare? – How to get Rid of Criminals
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:46:59 -0700
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First of all, I am confident that the execution of criminals, including
those involved as faggots spreading AIDS, crooked cops, judges and liars,
plus of course all the social workers,and welfare workers involved in
getting criminals out of parole, would be a magnificent fund-raiser for
the JUSTICE SYSTEM.

Who says that the scum should just be shot, or electrocuted?

Why not auction off the right to exterminate all the vermin of society,
with first rights going to victims.

I am sure that some of the victims, such as those who have had children
raped, would be able to come up with imaginative forms of execution, such
as:

target practice for victims, police, or military, but using dumdum
bullets

medical experiments, without bothering about anaesthetics

body parts harbesting from healthy criminals,when executed

experiments to find more interesting ways to eliminate criminals

experiments to determine and document the “splatter effect” of
drops from heights, such as from airplanes

experiments to determine the incineration effect, such as instant
cremation, of criminals, and how much space is required for the ashes

In other words, the criminals, and their parasitic supporters of the
injustice system, would finally be made into a cash resource.

Whether victims want to pay for the elimination of the garbage of society,
plus what the TV networks would pay to televise, and to really make money,
have the executions in large arenas charging good bucks to attend.

By the time enough of the scum of society and their hangers-on had seen a
few televised executions, there would be a real drop in serious crime,
particularly when we start to execute judges, lawyers and white collar
criminals togethjer with the rapists,murderers,drug pushers and similar.

> On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Porto wrote:
> > To the original point.
> > What form would televised execution be in?
> > Late night T.V for discerning adults to cuddle up next to each other on the
> > sofa?Perhaps a series like your ‘stuntmen’ shows screened at peaktime
> > saturdays before the wrestling (because lets face it we may as well get the
> > violence out of the way-the difference being that one of these is a tad more
> > realistic and shocking).Maybe a brief item on the news every
> > night/lunchtime…Execution today?
> > Either way and in all cases a production crew,technology,and corporate
> > ideology will be involved which means people making money from a person’s
> > death.This is without the added premium that advertisement stakes provide for
> > the television network…and execution certainly would be a crowd pleaser.
> > Selling cars,dogfood and snacks with images of death is not a human
> > concept…it is an economic one,execution is a humanitarian issue primarily.

Good points from Porto, well worth considering, together with added
comments.

From [email protected] Thu Dec 5 11:50:42 PST 1996
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From: WAHRHEIT
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Subject: ACUMEN SILENCED !!???Gauleiter Gross wants to be Fuehrer of Freenet
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It seems that Gauleiter Gross, wishes to be the FUEHRER OF EDMONTON
FREENET.

As intphase has shown, Gross, who is really gross, prefers the
lickspittles from the AIDS and disease spreading faggots, to normal
people.

What is really gross, if its’ objection to the headline regarding why
faggots with AIDS got $3 million, while seniors with diabetes must pay for
their medications!!!

Even children with diabetes, not of their lifestyle choice must pay for
medications, while perverts with AIDS get their lifestyle paid by the
taxpayers. This is really gross!!

Gross objects to republishing news stories uncomplimentary to his
favourite species – JEWS.

He even objected to this week’s international news story, that HITLER SO
LIKED JEWS, he had many Jews in the Army, including a JEWISH FIELD
MARSHALL!!

What is also gross, is the fact that $200,000.00 of TAXPAYER money was
given to the BUSINESS run by Gross. He is the major employee,with a
so-called management contract.

The $200,000 mismanaged by Gross was money supposed to have gone to the
Edmonton Public Library, who while we read, is desperately seeking $1.6 in
funds to continue operations. This $200,000 would have helped their proper
operations.

Mind you, one of the accomplishments of Gross, for all his money taken
>from taxpayers, is a drop of 50% of the paid up members of Edmonton
Freenet, from 31st October 1995 to 31st October 1996.

Thanks to the mismanagement of Gross, 3401 of the 6702 members from 1995
have not renewed their memberships!!!As was discussed at the public
meetings, any normal business would have gone under with this kind of
track record, but Gross is using $200,00.00 of TAXPAYER MONEY, not his own
money, so why worry?

Gross has stated in writing that only HE, with the advice of his faggot
friends,and lickspittle JEWS, will decide what is permitted in articles
and messages on Edmonton Freenet.

Not the laws of Canada, nor even the stated policies of the Financial
Sponsors of Edmonton Freenet.

What seems very hypocritical, is that the EDMONTON JOURNAL,ONE OF THE KEY
FINANCIAL SPONSORS, CLAIMS TO SUPPORT FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION,
EVEN FOR ERNST ZUNDEL.

Yet, according to Gross, they support his CENSORSHIP!!!

The Edmonton Public Library, another financial sponsor of Gross’s
business, also allegedly supports freedom of speech and expression.
According to gross, they now support his censorship.

Either Gross is lying, or acting against the stated policies of the
Edmonton Journal and Edmonton Library.

At the AGM of Edmonton Freenet, Gross supported the cowardly prior Board
members, in refusing to accept the 4 new Board members, who were legally
qualified to join the Board.

Only when all those attending complained loudly, with some even
threatening lawsuits, did the unelected directors agree to allow the 4
candidates to be voted in by the members, who annointed the 4 by
acclamation.

This is the same Gross, who can not produce an Invenotory list showing all
the equipment, supposedly worth around $250,000.00 allegedly owned by
Edmonton Freenet.This, despite comments from a technician with EFN,
alleging major irregularities regarding equipment, including allegations
that some equipment was bought by EFN, for another business!!!

Gross, and EFN, are now under investigation by the office of the
Auditor-General of Canada, in connection with irregularities regarding the
taxpayers’ $200,000.00.

Gross is also under investigation by the RCMP on a citizen’s charges
regarding certain possible criminal activities. Independent witnesses also
want to testify against Gross regarding these matters.

Edmonton Freenet is neither free, nor is it fair.

If you do not toe the communistic faggot-loving party line, you get
disconnected, despite the blathering of the financial sponsors.

On 5 Dec 1996 [email protected] wrote:

> ACUMEN CENSORED ???!!!!
>
> The Director of Edmonton Freenet, Keith Gross, has seen fit to Remove
> Net privileges from the dreaded Acumen. The vermin and maggots of
> society are ecstatically happy, of course, that a voice of light and truth
> is silenced and censored.
>
> It’s okay to have child pornography where little kids are drugged,
> assaulted, and frequently murdered. This is called artistic freedom.
>
> It’s okay for women to be beaten and forced to have sex with animals.
> This is called freedom of expression.
>
> It’s okay for every filthy disgusting pervert to defile decency. This is
> freedom of speech.
>
> It’s okay for foul mouthed vermin to spew their vomit. Profanity and
> slander are encouraged.
>
> BUT IT IS A MORTAL SIN FOR ACUMEN TO WHAT ?? He supports
> families, honesty and decency. He opposed criminals, perverts and
> assorted evils of society. FOR THIS HE IS CENSORED? HIS WORST
> CRIME IS TO HAVE A BIG MOUTH.
>
>
>
>
>

From [email protected] Thu Dec 5 15:36:05 PST 1996
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I agree with most thinking people, that the HOLOHOAX is strictly an
international swindle on non-Jews, to extort money!!!

> > > On Thu, 28 Nov 1996, Matt Friedman wrote:
> > > > Joey wrote:
I have recently visited Zundel’s site and find nothing outrageous or
inflammatory there. He simply sheds a new light on facts he believes
have been manipulated by Jews. I have found no evidence in what I’ve
read that is insulting or degrading to Jews. He does not deny Jews’
right to existence or try to instill hate towards them. Whether he is
right or wrong, he should have the right to express his views. Many
people who call Zundel a racist and anti-semite don’t even know what he
is about.

> Holocaust denial is, by definition, anti-Semitic.