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Rob Carscadden ([email protected]) writes:
> 1) Race is ill defined, based an the FACT that genetic variance (i.e. the
> squared of the standard deviation) inside a racial group is larger than
> the variance betwwen racial groups.

Really? Then why can you guys tell us who’s “African-American”, “visible
minority”, etc. etc., when it comes time to make AA or “employment equity”
decisions?

> 4) Integration is the _only_ way to harmonize the races

Why would anyone WANT to “harmonize the races”? First of all, what IS
“race”, since it’s so hard to define? Second of all, by whose standards
is “harmonization” a worthy goal, any more than segregation? Try showing
us that harmonization is desirable, and maybe we’ll listen to you. But
as it stands, your use of the word “harmonize” sounds uncomfortably like
“levelling”.

> Okay, let’s see any of you refute these. I don’t want antidotal evidence
> or a bunch of cussing, I want real proof.

I didn’t see any swear-words in what I wrote. Of course, you might
dismiss it as “cussing” because it doesn’t agree with you.

> Now this should be too hard for
> the superior minds (rolling of the eyes) of the White Power crowd here.
> Let’s see an exact definition of race, where you can judge some via
> evidence given to you without seeing the person (want to make this an
> unbiased test of race). ANy proof of racial superiority in intelligence.
> An proof of the evil jewish control of the media.

It’s been posted many times, all of it. It’s not OUR fault that you
didn’t see it, or chose to wilfully ignore it.

> Any arguement to best
> descibe a living arangement which benefits all of the “races.”

How many times do we have to spell it out to you: we don’t care, IN THE
LEAST, about beneifiting ALL of the races. Explain why we should.

Les

“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

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… regardless of how liberals feel about me, they just CAN’T ignore me!
Gawd, it feels so great to be loved like this!

Les

“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

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MORRISON KEITH MURRAY ([email protected]) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>… regardless of how liberals feel about me, they just CAN’T ignore me!
>
> I know. Just like a case of the clap or Excederin headache #431.

Case in point.

Les


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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Incidentally–and I know you were hoping that we’d forgotten–just how
> lousy are blacks as distance runners?

Nope, wasn’t hoping you’d forgotten it all. I really dislike it when
someone (especially someone like YOU) tries to second-guess me. Knock it
off, eh?

So negroes make good LD runners. So what? Unlike you liberals, I can
admit when I’m not right. You guys, on the other hand, fly into a frenzy
whenever one of your Sacred Doctrines in challenged.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Incidentally–and I know you were hoping that we’d forgotten–just how
> lousy are blacks as distance runners?

What about my other claims, that negroes make lousy swimmers, and lousy
kickboxers? Wanna address those? Were you maybe hoping that the big
stink over speedy negroes would sort of make THOSE claims just sort of
disappear?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

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carl skutsch ([email protected]) writes:
> I don’t give a damn if the white race survives. I only care if
> I survive, my family and friends survive, and the human race survives,
> in about that order. If we all end up intermarrying, and our
> descendants turn out to be a shade of off-brown, that’ll be just
> jim-dandy.

I think you’re lying. NO-ONE wants his/her grandchildren to be
shit-brown. Why, just down the street from where I live, there’s a
mulatto monster with a white mommy. My neighbours saw the pimp nailing
her, and true to form, he’s nowhere to be seen now. As for the
grandfather… he’s an alcoholic bum now, and he must have aged 20 years
in the five since his daughter bore a pickaninny out of wedlock.

> Might eliminate racism; one can only hope.

And it might not. Are you willing to risk your posterity on that?

Les

More to the point, I resent you risking MINE.


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Fragano Ledgister ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> : 1) That there is such a thing as race.
>
> What is it, how is it identified, what elements fit into its
> definiton?

Funny. You guys have no trouble defining race when it comes time to
decide WHO gets AA goodies, or who’s targeted by “Employment Equity”
(although to give you your due, you usually camouflage it by using the
term “target groups”, or some such nonsense)

> : 2) That the negro race is SIGNIFICANTLY less intelligent that the White race.
>
> What is the ‘negro race’, what is ‘intelligence’, how are these
> entities defined?

See above.

> : 3) That jews are involved in the control of our society FAR OUT OF
> : PROPORTION to their representation in the general population (I won’t get
> : into their undesirability)
>
> What does this mean? (‘involved in control’, does that mean they
> control, or that they participate in government? If the latter, what
> does ‘FAR OUT OF PROPORTION to their representation in the general
> population’ mean?)

They represent about 2.5% of the population (depending on what population
group you use).

> : 4) That racial separation is the _only_ way to preserve the races (on this
> : one, the liberal position is being disproven daily, as we see the rampant
> : non-white on White crime rate, which is, for all intents and purposes, an
> : undeclared war.)
>
> Why should ‘races’ (if they exist) be preserved?

My GOD, I do believe you’re serious!

Simple: RACES, and not mixed race hodge-podges, have accomplished
everything of worth.

Les


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Abdrool Kama ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

>>> Read about Alexander Dumas, Alessandro de Medici, and Alexander
>>> Pushkin, to see how Blacks influenced France, Italy, and Russia.
>>
>>This is another funny thing about negrophiles: they say that someone who
>>is 1/8th negro is that same as someone who is ALL negro. That is patently
>>untrue.
>>
> You’re such an hypocrite. When it is in your advantage to lump all blacks
> together you don’t hesitate to vomit the most outrageous bullshit,

Need I say more? People just need to have a look at some of your
postings, to see about “outrageous bullshit”.

> but when you are forced by overwhelming evidence to admit that blacks can
> achieve you deny their blackness!!

I haven’t been forced into anything, boy.

> By the way, on average african americans have 22% of their genes from white
> origin so are those genes to blame for all the things you accuse them of
> doing?

No, more than likely that 22% is responsible for their ability to make it.

> It would make sense because if you look at the world record who has
> perpetrated more wars and more killings? It sure was not the “savages in
> Africa”…

BWAHAHAHA!!! That’s ONLY because they lacked the ability to make more
than spears, boy. Don’t confuse lack of ability with moral superiority.

Les


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Rob Kowalewski ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected]
> (John Baglow) wrote:
>
>> Anyone else find this despicable little puppy as nauseating as I do? This
>> cretin is a member of the Canadian Armed Forces, a medic, no less. If you
>> were a Somali, would you like his tender loving care?
>>
>> I beleive that an enquiry and protests are required to wake up the high
>> command of our Armed Forces. Giving weapons training to creeps like this
>> is not something I as a taxpayer would like to support.
>>
>> Write your MP. Write the papers. Protest the harbouring of nazis in the
>> Canadian Armed Forces.
>
> Just as many of us Americans wonder what all Tim McVey picked up in the US
> Army. North American traditions and laws relating to freedom of thought
> makes all of this somewhat problematic, however.
>
> Interested in hearing the (lucid) thoughts of others on this one.

Sorry, Rob, but gotta scold you on this one: the words “lucid thoughts”
should NEVER appear in a description of anything John Baglow writes.

Les


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… regardless of how liberals feel about me, they just CAN’T ignore me!
Gawd, it feels so great to be loved like this!

Les

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carl skutsch ([email protected]) writes:
> Responding to Les Griswald:
>
> Nope Les, I’m not lying. I don’t give a damn what shade my grandchildren
> turn out to be. Or what color anyone’s grandchildren turn out to be.
> (Although I now have a secret hope that yours will end up a nice creamy
> brown, just to give you thrombosis.)

‘Twil never happen, sorry.

> To clarify our positions: You think people of color are inferior;
> I think you are an evil man.

You’re making an awful big assumption there, assuming that parroting
Politically-Correct slogans passes for “thinking”.

Les


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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, Reverend Ron
> wrote:
>
> :But the question for Crazy Jeannie and other demented IDJITS around the
> :ng…how can you “i-love-everybody-because-we’re-all-equal-including-
> :perverts-and-sickos-and every-form-of-vermin” lib’rals justify your
> :INTENSE HATRED for a minority such as pedophiles.
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You treat people as members of whatever group you want to assign them to.
>
> We treat people as individuals, accountable only for their own words and
> actions. Not the actions of their ancestors, and not the actions of people
> whp happen to look like them. Pedophiles are contemptible because of what
> THEY do.

Bullshit. You castigate someone for even having THOUGHTS about diddling
kiddies.

Les


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MORRISON KEITH MURRAY ([email protected]) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>… regardless of how liberals feel about me, they just CAN’T ignore me!
>
> I know. Just like a case of the clap or Excederin headache #431.

Case in point.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:

(snip – Stewart’s facile display of childishness clipped)

> [re: my allegation that les thinks the truth is for weenies]
> : Really? Where has it been proven? By ignoramuses like Jeffy Brown, who
> : haven’t getton the message that their e-mail constitutes harrassment?
>
> Dunno. Did you ever answer that big post with the ten questions for you
> about your previous incorrect statements, that had all that cool
> documentation and stuff? I stopped paying attention after about the
> third time it was posted because it didn’t look like you were going to
> answer.

You’re right. I do love the attention, though, and that Ken McOyVay
thinks I’m so important that he has to follow me around. It’s also funny
that he THINKS he’s embarrassing me (or something) by doing that. At
least he’s smart enough to figure out that repeated e-mailing is not too
far removed from mail bombing.

(snip)

> : Are you suggesting that many, or even a measurable number of, negroes
> : in the MMM were Harvard attendees? You really ARE into reality denial.
>
> The only reason I even know what you’re talking about is because of this
> newsgroup; I’m in the Ivory Tower here and don’t get much outside news.
>
> Anyway, the Nation of Islam gives me the creeps. They can bite me. The
> point is, any and all black people I’ve known (which is, admittedly, a
> very small sample compared to other ethnic groups) have displayed no
> signs of inherent inferiority.

Do you think that maybe, just MAYBE, your observations have been, shall we
say, BIASED? Not that I’m accusing you of prejudging, oh heck no! But
maybe your eyes were closed, or you charitably OVERLOOKED anything that
tended to punch a big hole in your Pollyanna universe?

(snip)

> : And one of the spin-off benefits of European advancement in Africa was a
> : better environment FOR THE AFRICANS. That wasn’t one of their goals, but
> : it sure was one of the results.
>
> I have some bad news for you, Les. I really did go out, in the rain,
> uphill both ways, and buy a couple of comprehensive African history books
> last night.
>
> Tremble… in… fear.
>
> I’m about a third of the way through the first one, “Lost Cities of
> Africa” by some guy I forgot his name. You appear to be wrong about
> almost everything. Sorry. I’ll post details when I’m done.
>
> BTW, those “Hamitic” peoples of yours apparently didn’t really exist.
> They’re in quotation marks (“Hamitic peoples”, 175-177) in the indexes of
> both books, which go on to say that it was a load of malarkey.
>
> But the Egyptians still weren’t black. Not totally, anyway. Fear not. Of
> course, they were eventually conquered by the eastern Sudanese from
> Meroe and thereabouts, who _were_ black, but that was only after Egypt
> declined. (And they got their asses kicked by the Assyrians or someone
> in a few years anyway.)
>
> Oh, and that crack about “What do the achievements of Eastern “Hamitic”
> “peoples” have to do with Gold Coeast blue-gums,” or whatever you said –
> there was considerable migration and cultural exchange back and forth over
> the Sudanese plains right below the Sahara, and almost all of the peoples
> of the Niger region and so on have legends of Northeastern origins.

Unsupported by anthropological evidence.

> The civilizations of Ghana, Mali, and two others I forgot the names of –
> should have brought the damn book with me – were apparently quite
> impressive. (While the actual coast-dwellers were pretty screwed up by
> the time Europeans arrived, I haven’t gotten to the bit explaining who
> they were and how they got that way yet.)
>
> Final tidbit: Egyptian legend held the promised land to be to the
> southwest.

So? A lot of European legends held that the “Promised Land” lay to the
west, which a lot of Theosophists have taken to mean that there was a
race-memory of Atlantis.

> That’s all for now. More to come! Quotes! With full references! Smile!

Les

> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- it took the Moor armies fourteen
> *years* to take out Ghana.

Interesting sig. Weren’t the Moors and the Ghanians BOTH negro? Hmm,
sounds like the historical version of the Bloods and the Crips.


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:44:05 PST 1995
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Actually, the opposite is closer to the truth. Most of the major
> discoveries of early civilization were made by the people in the middle,
> who were migrating, warring, interbreeding, and generally pushing each
> other to excel, all in convenient river valleys. The Hittites came up with
> iron – they were over by Asia minor. Sumeria, Egypt, Greece, Rome – all
> on the Mediterranean, all racially ambiguous. The “pure” races – white
> northern europeans and black southern africans – were usually the last
> ones to get the technology spread to them, as they were off in the
> boonies and lacked the competition and fertile, temperate river valley
> environments conducive to civilization building on a serious scale.

Oh, horse droppings. This “Eastern Light” B.S. is thoroughly discredited.
Many discoveries that were previously credited to the Middle and Far East
are now known to have PREDATED their appearance in the East. Read _Before
History_, which you can obtain from:

National Vanguard Books
P.O. Box 330
Hillsboro WV
24946 U.S.A.

> The europeans got iron from other people, just like the africans did.

Bull doo-doo. The Celts BROUGHT iron from the plains of Asia, and
populated Europe.

> The funny thing is that now the northern europeans are trying to take
> credit for everything.

As well they should, since they’ve developed everything of worth over the
past couple of thousand years.

> As a through-and-through northern european, my
> subconscious inclination is to accept this, since it’s what I’ve been
> told all my life, but the more history I read, the more ridiculous it
> really is.

Please. Give us all a break. The rantings of negrophiles and sinophiles
do not constitute “history”.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:44:06 PST 1995
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
> I think you should at least give me some credit for considering your line
> of reasoning to be remotely valid. I’m holding my nose here.
>
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
> : Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
>
> Racial Separatism: a discussion.
>
> : > (a) it’s impossible to implement,
>
> : No, it isn’t.
>
> How to do it, then? Please tell.

With that sort of questioning, it sounds to me like you’d expect every
Hessian mercenary to have been the military genius that von Clausewitz was.

: > (b) it’s difficult to define who stays and who goes,
>
> : “Difficult” is not the same as “impossible”. Getting a man on the moon
> : was difficult.
>
> But was it a white man? I’d like to see some concrete rules from y’all.
> Like, ancestry fractions, genes required, something like that.

See above.

> : > (c) it’s against the basic principles of most of the governments
> : > involved,
>
> : Principles can and do change as necessity dictates.
>
> Considering the governments involved, I won’t argue that, but still,
> their principles intersect mine at this point, and I don’t think they
> should give ground.

What you think is largely immaterial to the governments, and to me as
well. Nice to see this egotism, though. This sort of self-centeredness
is the prime motivating factor of liberalism.

> : > (d) it’s regressive and would mean centuries more of the same old racial
> : > antagonism and misunderstanding, right when we were starting to make
> : > progress, however painfully,
>
> : Really?
> : 1) Since when does removing the source of friction mean that a
> : continuation of the “anatagonism and misunderstanding”?
>
> Big friction. The black nation vs. the white nation.

If the White nation is over here, and the black nation is over there, how
will they cause friction?

> The people will
> inevitably have to interact on some level,

No, the NATIONS MAY have to interact on some level. Trade deals and such
are CONSIDERABLY different than having aliens living right in one’s midst.

> and as time passes, will have to live at proximity once again,

Really? How do you figure that? Trade deals and economic unions can
occur entirely without shifting populations around.

> : 2) What sort of “progress” are you babbling about? I’ve yet to see any
> : positive progress. (positively DESTRUCTIVE, yes)
>
> Hundreds of people of my acquaintance have gained by interacting with
> people from different backgrounds, which they wouldn’t get in an
> all-white society.

What have they “gained” that is so important? And if the benefits of an
all-White society could be presented to them FAIRLY, shouldn’t they be
allowed to determine which would suit them better?

> The importance of a broad perspective to a
> healthy world-view can’t be overestimated – I daresay it’s the most
> important thing.

Agreed. However, a healthy world-view is NOT achieved by importing
riff-raff from the Third World. If I wanted to experience another
culture, I’d go to their country, and experience TRUE foreign culture, not
some half-assed government subsidized “ethnic” culture. Which raises an
interesting question: why are refugees so eager to preserve what they ran
>from in the first place?

(snip)

> Life without diversity would suck in comparison. For normal people. All
> you guys ever think about is crime, crime, crime. That’s far from the
> whole story; that’s just what the media talks about. Stop listening to
> the Jews, they’re controlling your minds, remember? All these people,
> black, white, Asian, whatever – We Live Normal Lives And Interact With
> Each Other. And It’s Cool. That’s real life.

That’s one of the things I find truly hilarious about people like you:
you blur the distinction between “diversity” and “mish-mash of perversity
and racial mixture”, so that the words eventually come to mean the same
thing in your view. There’s PLENTY of diversity in the White race, why do
we need to beg-borrow-steal from non-whites?

(snip)

> : > Sticking it out, on the other hand, means (a) more interracial violence
> : > and hate crimes, (b) constant whining about who’s being unjust to who,
> : > (c) having to solve the “can’t we all just get along” factor, (d)
> : > watching Maxine Waters on C-SPAN, (e) cultural and ethnic differences
> : > may eventually become homogenized and lost.
>
> : No, sticking it out means that things are going to get much worse in the
> : very near future. How much longer do you think that people, even people
> : who claim that they don’t have a racist bone in their bodies, are going to
> : put up with obfuscation and misdirection? Right here in Ottawa, a
> : 17-year-old boy was tortured and killed BY NEGROES. An elderly couple
> : suffered a home invasion at the hands of ASIANS.
>
> Who’s obfuscating and misdirecting? Do social problems mean the only
> solution is ripping said society apart? And two examples isn’t really a
> landslide of evidence. Whites commit crimes too.

I love this one, I really do. What you’re saying, in essence, is that
crime is A-OK because Whites commit it TOO.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:44:07 PST 1995
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Incidentally–and I know you were hoping that we’d forgotten–just how
> lousy are blacks as distance runners?

Nope, wasn’t hoping you’d forgotten it all. I really dislike it when
someone (especially someone like YOU) tries to second-guess me. Knock it
off, eh?

So negroes make good LD runners. So what? Unlike you liberals, I can
admit when I’m not right. You guys, on the other hand, fly into a frenzy
whenever one of your Sacred Doctrines in challenged.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:44:08 PST 1995
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Incidentally–and I know you were hoping that we’d forgotten–just how
> lousy are blacks as distance runners?

What about my other claims, that negroes make lousy swimmers, and lousy
kickboxers? Wanna address those? Were you maybe hoping that the big
stink over speedy negroes would sort of make THOSE claims just sort of
disappear?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:36 PST 1995
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Brown Man ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
>>Browning of America ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

>>Look at your own message, and see if it sinks in. “Asian”, “jew”,
>>”white”. How do you think the groupinigs are done?
>
>>Asian: pretty obvious who’s an Asian.
>
>>Jew: pretty obvious, too.
>
> Not so obvious to me. Maybe my being not white, I could not tell the
> difference. Who knows?

Then open your eyes to the world around you. If you can’t tell an
oriental or a jew from a White, then you’re either a) blind or b) lying.

>>White: everything else.
>
> No, not everything else.
>
>>Tell me, where do Arabs, east Indians, Armenians, Hispanics fit in?
>
> OK. Arabs might be grouped with whites, although I will agree with
> you that most dont look like the rest of you.

They’re Semites, not White.

> The East Indians that I know group themselves with Asians.

I didn’t ask where they group THEMSELVES. I asked where they’re likely to
be grouped in IQ tests.

> Armenians, I don’t know.

Semites, again.

> And Hispanics are grouped with Hispanics.

Really? That’s a new one on me.

>>They certainly aren’t given their own classifications, but are usually grouped
>>in with whites. So, how about defining “Whites” by the same strict criteria?
>>That is, instead of lumping together EVERYONE pale (and not-so-pale, as the
>>lumping of Hispanics under the term “white” shows), why not compare the IQ
>>tests of, say, Scots, Germans, English, French, Russian, etc., as separate
>>groups? THEN let’s see how your precious jews measure up.
>
> Why not? I dont make the test, I really dont care for them. But it
> is the “White Nationalist” who seem to be concerned with them. When
> see you people on Public Access TV (to get a good laugh), you usually
> start rattling off some numbers. Not you necessary, I don’t know you.
> But your comrades.

Your “good laugh” is sounding an awfully lot more nervous than it did just
a few short years ago.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:37 PST 1995
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lzaird ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Mr Richard Ethan Latker ([email protected]) writes:
>>> How ironic that Les..and many of his “white bretheren” are unlikely to
>>> survive the ravages of skin cancer and other UV-induced diseases in the
>>> next century, as the great technological advances of the white race are
>>> obliterating the ozone layer. According to a Scandanavian study, skin cancer
>>> rates are likely to increase by the following percentages by 2020:
>>> Australia 1800%
>>> New Zealand 1340%
>>> Finland 1275%
>>> Norway 1250%
>>> CANADA 800%
>>> United States 575%
>>> Argentina 200%
>>> Zimbabwe 15%
>>> Probably better to have a little color in your family tree these days…
>>Gee, that’s really fascinating. Wanna put up the predicted increase in
>>HIV/AIDS per country? Didn’t think so.
>
> Gee, anybody have HIV/AIDS stats for hetero White women? Let’s scare
> the living hell outta Les.

Yes, DO post them, Slimy. Then we’ll see how liberals like to gloss over
the fact that the majority of women with AIDS are 1) junkies 2) whores and
3) non-white.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

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carl skutsch ([email protected]) writes:
> I don’t give a damn if the white race survives. I only care if
> I survive, my family and friends survive, and the human race survives,
> in about that order. If we all end up intermarrying, and our
> descendants turn out to be a shade of off-brown, that’ll be just
> jim-dandy.

I think you’re lying. NO-ONE wants his/her grandchildren to be
shit-brown. Why, just down the street from where I live, there’s a
mulatto monster with a white mommy. My neighbours saw the pimp nailing
her, and true to form, he’s nowhere to be seen now. As for the
grandfather… he’s an alcoholic bum now, and he must have aged 20 years
in the five since his daughter bore a pickaninny out of wedlock.

> Might eliminate racism; one can only hope.

And it might not. Are you willing to risk your posterity on that?

Les

More to the point, I resent you risking MINE.


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

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Fragano Ledgister ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> : 1) That there is such a thing as race.
>
> What is it, how is it identified, what elements fit into its
> definiton?

Funny. You guys have no trouble defining race when it comes time to
decide WHO gets AA goodies, or who’s targeted by “Employment Equity”
(although to give you your due, you usually camouflage it by using the
term “target groups”, or some such nonsense)

> : 2) That the negro race is SIGNIFICANTLY less intelligent that the White race.
>
> What is the ‘negro race’, what is ‘intelligence’, how are these
> entities defined?

See above.

> : 3) That jews are involved in the control of our society FAR OUT OF
> : PROPORTION to their representation in the general population (I won’t get
> : into their undesirability)
>
> What does this mean? (‘involved in control’, does that mean they
> control, or that they participate in government? If the latter, what
> does ‘FAR OUT OF PROPORTION to their representation in the general
> population’ mean?)

They represent about 2.5% of the population (depending on what population
group you use).

> : 4) That racial separation is the _only_ way to preserve the races (on this
> : one, the liberal position is being disproven daily, as we see the rampant
> : non-white on White crime rate, which is, for all intents and purposes, an
> : undeclared war.)
>
> Why should ‘races’ (if they exist) be preserved?

My GOD, I do believe you’re serious!

Simple: RACES, and not mixed race hodge-podges, have accomplished
everything of worth.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:41 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Abdrool Kama ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

>>> Read about Alexander Dumas, Alessandro de Medici, and Alexander
>>> Pushkin, to see how Blacks influenced France, Italy, and Russia.
>>
>>This is another funny thing about negrophiles: they say that someone who
>>is 1/8th negro is that same as someone who is ALL negro. That is patently
>>untrue.
>>
> You’re such an hypocrite. When it is in your advantage to lump all blacks
> together you don’t hesitate to vomit the most outrageous bullshit,

Need I say more? People just need to have a look at some of your
postings, to see about “outrageous bullshit”.

> but when you are forced by overwhelming evidence to admit that blacks can
> achieve you deny their blackness!!

I haven’t been forced into anything, boy.

> By the way, on average african americans have 22% of their genes from white
> origin so are those genes to blame for all the things you accuse them of
> doing?

No, more than likely that 22% is responsible for their ability to make it.

> It would make sense because if you look at the world record who has
> perpetrated more wars and more killings? It sure was not the “savages in
> Africa”…

BWAHAHAHA!!! That’s ONLY because they lacked the ability to make more
than spears, boy. Don’t confuse lack of ability with moral superiority.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:42 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Marc Lemire–Standing on Guard for Thee…
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Rob Kowalewski ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected]
> (John Baglow) wrote:
>
>> Anyone else find this despicable little puppy as nauseating as I do? This
>> cretin is a member of the Canadian Armed Forces, a medic, no less. If you
>> were a Somali, would you like his tender loving care?
>>
>> I beleive that an enquiry and protests are required to wake up the high
>> command of our Armed Forces. Giving weapons training to creeps like this
>> is not something I as a taxpayer would like to support.
>>
>> Write your MP. Write the papers. Protest the harbouring of nazis in the
>> Canadian Armed Forces.
>
> Just as many of us Americans wonder what all Tim McVey picked up in the US
> Army. North American traditions and laws relating to freedom of thought
> makes all of this somewhat problematic, however.
>
> Interested in hearing the (lucid) thoughts of others on this one.

Sorry, Rob, but gotta scold you on this one: the words “lucid thoughts”
should NEVER appear in a description of anything John Baglow writes.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:42 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Love me or hate me…
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… regardless of how liberals feel about me, they just CAN’T ignore me!
Gawd, it feels so great to be loved like this!

Les

“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:44 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Something quite disturbing…
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carl skutsch ([email protected]) writes:
> Responding to Les Griswald:
>
> Nope Les, I’m not lying. I don’t give a damn what shade my grandchildren
> turn out to be. Or what color anyone’s grandchildren turn out to be.
> (Although I now have a secret hope that yours will end up a nice creamy
> brown, just to give you thrombosis.)

‘Twil never happen, sorry.

> To clarify our positions: You think people of color are inferior;
> I think you are an evil man.

You’re making an awful big assumption there, assuming that parroting
Politically-Correct slogans passes for “thinking”.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:45 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Crazy jeannie…is this REALLY “YOU”?
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, Reverend Ron
> wrote:
>
> :But the question for Crazy Jeannie and other demented IDJITS around the
> :ng…how can you “i-love-everybody-because-we’re-all-equal-including-
> :perverts-and-sickos-and every-form-of-vermin” lib’rals justify your
> :INTENSE HATRED for a minority such as pedophiles.
>
> Okay. One more time.
>
> You treat people as members of whatever group you want to assign them to.
>
> We treat people as individuals, accountable only for their own words and
> actions. Not the actions of their ancestors, and not the actions of people
> whp happen to look like them. Pedophiles are contemptible because of what
> THEY do.

Bullshit. You castigate someone for even having THOUGHTS about diddling
kiddies.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:46 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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MORRISON KEITH MURRAY ([email protected]) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>… regardless of how liberals feel about me, they just CAN’T ignore me!
>
> I know. Just like a case of the clap or Excederin headache #431.

Case in point.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:46 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ONE THING WHITE SUPREMACIST NEVER ANSWERS answer it Ron, Les, RC, Aryan Crusader, Salty, if you dare
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evil Beavis ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> >Quisling was Norwegian and a fool. We in Sweden avoided a pointless
> >resistance and defeat. Instead we used resources saving Jews in Hungary
> >(Raoul Wallenberg) and helped many Danes and Norwegians seek refuge in our
> >country. Not helping out the Finns after promising them that was a dirty
> >game played by the government though. But that was then, does it mean
> >anything today?

Interesting question, Foot-boy. By your cowardly reasoning, why bring up
ANYTHING from the past to be used against people? YOU may not, but jewish
organizations sure as hell do (unless, of course, it’s something like the
jewish involvement in Bolshevism).

Les

“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:47 PST 1995
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From: b[email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: FOUR TRUTHS THAT NO LIBERAL HAS REFUTED
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:

(snip – Stewart’s facile display of childishness clipped)

> [re: my allegation that les thinks the truth is for weenies]
> : Really? Where has it been proven? By ignoramuses like Jeffy Brown, who
> : haven’t getton the message that their e-mail constitutes harrassment?
>
> Dunno. Did you ever answer that big post with the ten questions for you
> about your previous incorrect statements, that had all that cool
> documentation and stuff? I stopped paying attention after about the
> third time it was posted because it didn’t look like you were going to
> answer.

You’re right. I do love the attention, though, and that Ken McOyVay
thinks I’m so important that he has to follow me around. It’s also funny
that he THINKS he’s embarrassing me (or something) by doing that. At
least he’s smart enough to figure out that repeated e-mailing is not too
far removed from mail bombing.

(snip)

> : Are you suggesting that many, or even a measurable number of, negroes
> : in the MMM were Harvard attendees? You really ARE into reality denial.
>
> The only reason I even know what you’re talking about is because of this
> newsgroup; I’m in the Ivory Tower here and don’t get much outside news.
>
> Anyway, the Nation of Islam gives me the creeps. They can bite me. The
> point is, any and all black people I’ve known (which is, admittedly, a
> very small sample compared to other ethnic groups) have displayed no
> signs of inherent inferiority.

Do you think that maybe, just MAYBE, your observations have been, shall we
say, BIASED? Not that I’m accusing you of prejudging, oh heck no! But
maybe your eyes were closed, or you charitably OVERLOOKED anything that
tended to punch a big hole in your Pollyanna universe?

(snip)

> : And one of the spin-off benefits of European advancement in Africa was a
> : better environment FOR THE AFRICANS. That wasn’t one of their goals, but
> : it sure was one of the results.
>
> I have some bad news for you, Les. I really did go out, in the rain,
> uphill both ways, and buy a couple of comprehensive African history books
> last night.
>
> Tremble… in… fear.
>
> I’m about a third of the way through the first one, “Lost Cities of
> Africa” by some guy I forgot his name. You appear to be wrong about
> almost everything. Sorry. I’ll post details when I’m done.
>
> BTW, those “Hamitic” peoples of yours apparently didn’t really exist.
> They’re in quotation marks (“Hamitic peoples”, 175-177) in the indexes of
> both books, which go on to say that it was a load of malarkey.
>
> But the Egyptians still weren’t black. Not totally, anyway. Fear not. Of
> course, they were eventually conquered by the eastern Sudanese from
> Meroe and thereabouts, who _were_ black, but that was only after Egypt
> declined. (And they got their asses kicked by the Assyrians or someone
> in a few years anyway.)
>
> Oh, and that crack about “What do the achievements of Eastern “Hamitic”
> “peoples” have to do with Gold Coeast blue-gums,” or whatever you said –
> there was considerable migration and cultural exchange back and forth over
> the Sudanese plains right below the Sahara, and almost all of the peoples
> of the Niger region and so on have legends of Northeastern origins.

Unsupported by anthropological evidence.

> The civilizations of Ghana, Mali, and two others I forgot the names of –
> should have brought the damn book with me – were apparently quite
> impressive. (While the actual coast-dwellers were pretty screwed up by
> the time Europeans arrived, I haven’t gotten to the bit explaining who
> they were and how they got that way yet.)
>
> Final tidbit: Egyptian legend held the promised land to be to the
> southwest.

So? A lot of European legends held that the “Promised Land” lay to the
west, which a lot of Theosophists have taken to mean that there was a
race-memory of Atlantis.

> That’s all for now. More to come! Quotes! With full references! Smile!

Les

> Stewart King -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- it took the Moor armies fourteen
> *years* to take out Ghana.

Interesting sig. Weren’t the Moors and the Ghanians BOTH negro? Hmm,
sounds like the historical version of the Bloods and the Crips.


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:48 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: FOUR TRUTHS THAT NO LIBERAL HAS REFUTED
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Actually, the opposite is closer to the truth. Most of the major
> discoveries of early civilization were made by the people in the middle,
> who were migrating, warring, interbreeding, and generally pushing each
> other to excel, all in convenient river valleys. The Hittites came up with
> iron – they were over by Asia minor. Sumeria, Egypt, Greece, Rome – all
> on the Mediterranean, all racially ambiguous. The “pure” races – white
> northern europeans and black southern africans – were usually the last
> ones to get the technology spread to them, as they were off in the
> boonies and lacked the competition and fertile, temperate river valley
> environments conducive to civilization building on a serious scale.

Oh, horse droppings. This “Eastern Light” B.S. is thoroughly discredited.
Many discoveries that were previously credited to the Middle and Far East
are now known to have PREDATED their appearance in the East. Read _Before
History_, which you can obtain from:

National Vanguard Books
P.O. Box 330
Hillsboro WV
24946 U.S.A.

> The europeans got iron from other people, just like the africans did.

Bull doo-doo. The Celts BROUGHT iron from the plains of Asia, and
populated Europe.

> The funny thing is that now the northern europeans are trying to take
> credit for everything.

As well they should, since they’ve developed everything of worth over the
past couple of thousand years.

> As a through-and-through northern european, my
> subconscious inclination is to accept this, since it’s what I’ve been
> told all my life, but the more history I read, the more ridiculous it
> really is.

Please. Give us all a break. The rantings of negrophiles and sinophiles
do not constitute “history”.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:50 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: This Whole Separatism Idea. (WAS Re: New string! (was: FOUR TRUTHS THAT NO LIBERAL HAS REFUTED))
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
> I think you should at least give me some credit for considering your line
> of reasoning to be remotely valid. I’m holding my nose here.
>
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
> : Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
>
> Racial Separatism: a discussion.
>
> : > (a) it’s impossible to implement,
>
> : No, it isn’t.
>
> How to do it, then? Please tell.

With that sort of questioning, it sounds to me like you’d expect every
Hessian mercenary to have been the military genius that von Clausewitz was.

: > (b) it’s difficult to define who stays and who goes,
>
> : “Difficult” is not the same as “impossible”. Getting a man on the moon
> : was difficult.
>
> But was it a white man? I’d like to see some concrete rules from y’all.
> Like, ancestry fractions, genes required, something like that.

See above.

> : > (c) it’s against the basic principles of most of the governments
> : > involved,
>
> : Principles can and do change as necessity dictates.
>
> Considering the governments involved, I won’t argue that, but still,
> their principles intersect mine at this point, and I don’t think they
> should give ground.

What you think is largely immaterial to the governments, and to me as
well. Nice to see this egotism, though. This sort of self-centeredness
is the prime motivating factor of liberalism.

> : > (d) it’s regressive and would mean centuries more of the same old racial
> : > antagonism and misunderstanding, right when we were starting to make
> : > progress, however painfully,
>
> : Really?
> : 1) Since when does removing the source of friction mean that a
> : continuation of the “anatagonism and misunderstanding”?
>
> Big friction. The black nation vs. the white nation.

If the White nation is over here, and the black nation is over there, how
will they cause friction?

> The people will
> inevitably have to interact on some level,

No, the NATIONS MAY have to interact on some level. Trade deals and such
are CONSIDERABLY different than having aliens living right in one’s midst.

> and as time passes, will have to live at proximity once again,

Really? How do you figure that? Trade deals and economic unions can
occur entirely without shifting populations around.

> : 2) What sort of “progress” are you babbling about? I’ve yet to see any
> : positive progress. (positively DESTRUCTIVE, yes)
>
> Hundreds of people of my acquaintance have gained by interacting with
> people from different backgrounds, which they wouldn’t get in an
> all-white society.

What have they “gained” that is so important? And if the benefits of an
all-White society could be presented to them FAIRLY, shouldn’t they be
allowed to determine which would suit them better?

> The importance of a broad perspective to a
> healthy world-view can’t be overestimated – I daresay it’s the most
> important thing.

Agreed. However, a healthy world-view is NOT achieved by importing
riff-raff from the Third World. If I wanted to experience another
culture, I’d go to their country, and experience TRUE foreign culture, not
some half-assed government subsidized “ethnic” culture. Which raises an
interesting question: why are refugees so eager to preserve what they ran
>from in the first place?

(snip)

> Life without diversity would suck in comparison. For normal people. All
> you guys ever think about is crime, crime, crime. That’s far from the
> whole story; that’s just what the media talks about. Stop listening to
> the Jews, they’re controlling your minds, remember? All these people,
> black, white, Asian, whatever – We Live Normal Lives And Interact With
> Each Other. And It’s Cool. That’s real life.

That’s one of the things I find truly hilarious about people like you:
you blur the distinction between “diversity” and “mish-mash of perversity
and racial mixture”, so that the words eventually come to mean the same
thing in your view. There’s PLENTY of diversity in the White race, why do
we need to beg-borrow-steal from non-whites?

(snip)

> : > Sticking it out, on the other hand, means (a) more interracial violence
> : > and hate crimes, (b) constant whining about who’s being unjust to who,
> : > (c) having to solve the “can’t we all just get along” factor, (d)
> : > watching Maxine Waters on C-SPAN, (e) cultural and ethnic differences
> : > may eventually become homogenized and lost.
>
> : No, sticking it out means that things are going to get much worse in the
> : very near future. How much longer do you think that people, even people
> : who claim that they don’t have a racist bone in their bodies, are going to
> : put up with obfuscation and misdirection? Right here in Ottawa, a
> : 17-year-old boy was tortured and killed BY NEGROES. An elderly couple
> : suffered a home invasion at the hands of ASIANS.
>
> Who’s obfuscating and misdirecting? Do social problems mean the only
> solution is ripping said society apart? And two examples isn’t really a
> landslide of evidence. Whites commit crimes too.

I love this one, I really do. What you’re saying, in essence, is that
crime is A-OK because Whites commit it TOO.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:51 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: ONE THING WHITE SUPREMACIST NEVER ANSWERS answer it Ron, Les, RC, Aryan Crusader, Salty, if you dare
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

(snip)

> :The only solution is separation or emmigration of all blacks.
>
> Wow. an almost reasonable (i.e. only unreasonable by 90%) restatement of
> the usual “I got a shotgun and I’m gonna fucking kill ’em all” argument.

Which has appeared WHERE, Android?

Pretty funny. The libs can infer anything at all out of our statements,
but try that with the jews/semitophiles, and the FIRST thing out of their
mouths is, “WHERE, EXACTLY, did I say that?”

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:52 PST 1995
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Incidentally–and I know you were hoping that we’d forgotten–just how
> lousy are blacks as distance runners?

Nope, wasn’t hoping you’d forgotten it all. I really dislike it when
someone (especially someone like YOU) tries to second-guess me. Knock it
off, eh?

So negroes make good LD runners. So what? Unlike you liberals, I can
admit when I’m not right. You guys, on the other hand, fly into a frenzy
whenever one of your Sacred Doctrines in challenged.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:53 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Incidentally–and I know you were hoping that we’d forgotten–just how
> lousy are blacks as distance runners?

What about my other claims, that negroes make lousy swimmers, and lousy
kickboxers? Wanna address those? Were you maybe hoping that the big
stink over speedy negroes would sort of make THOSE claims just sort of
disappear?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:54 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Jews and Whites (was: Like hell you did)
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Elias Halldor Agustsson ([email protected]) writes:
> In [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>Brown Man ([email protected]) writes:
>
>>> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
>>>>Jew: pretty obvious, too.
>>>
>>> Not so obvious to me. Maybe my being not white, I could not tell the
>>> difference. Who knows?
>
>>Then open your eyes to the world around you. If you can’t tell an
>>oriental or a jew from a White, then you’re either a) blind or b) lying.
>
> Honestly, Les, I don’t think anyone can tell a Jew from a White just by
> looking. (or is it that the Jew does not wear a Swastika armband?)

I can. Many Whites can. Elias, you’ve got to learn that your ignorance
is not the norm.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 10:56:55 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Are Armenians Aryan? (was: Like hell you did)
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Elias Halldor Agustsson ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

Some ignoramus:
>>> Armenians, I don’t know.

Moi:
>>Semites, again.
>
> Les, once again you expose your abysmal ignorance. The Armenians are as
> “Aryan” as you are. An Indo-European people talking an Indo-European
> language. If, however, you believe you have proof to the contrary, please
> post it here instead of indulging in your stupid rants and tantrum fits,
> as you usually do.

Proof?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 11:23:19 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Marc Lemire–Standing on Guard for Thee…
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Rob Kowalewski ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected]
> (John Baglow) wrote:
>
>> Anyone else find this despicable little puppy as nauseating as I do? This
>> cretin is a member of the Canadian Armed Forces, a medic, no less. If you
>> were a Somali, would you like his tender loving care?
>>
>> I beleive that an enquiry and protests are required to wake up the high
>> command of our Armed Forces. Giving weapons training to creeps like this
>> is not something I as a taxpayer would like to support.
>>
>> Write your MP. Write the papers. Protest the harbouring of nazis in the
>> Canadian Armed Forces.
>
> Just as many of us Americans wonder what all Tim McVey picked up in the US
> Army. North American traditions and laws relating to freedom of thought
> makes all of this somewhat problematic, however.
>
> Interested in hearing the (lucid) thoughts of others on this one.

Sorry, Rob, but gotta scold you on this one: the words “lucid thoughts”
should NEVER appear in a description of anything John Baglow writes.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 11:23:21 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Love me or hate me…
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… regardless of how liberals feel about me, they just CAN’T ignore me!
Gawd, it feels so great to be loved like this!

Les

“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 11:23:21 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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MORRISON KEITH MURRAY ([email protected]) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>… regardless of how liberals feel about me, they just CAN’T ignore me!
>
> I know. Just like a case of the clap or Excederin headache #431.

Case in point.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 11:23:22 PST 1995
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Incidentally–and I know you were hoping that we’d forgotten–just how
> lousy are blacks as distance runners?

Nope, wasn’t hoping you’d forgotten it all. I really dislike it when
someone (especially someone like YOU) tries to second-guess me. Knock it
off, eh?

So negroes make good LD runners. So what? Unlike you liberals, I can
admit when I’m not right. You guys, on the other hand, fly into a frenzy
whenever one of your Sacred Doctrines in challenged.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 11:23:23 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Incidentally–and I know you were hoping that we’d forgotten–just how
> lousy are blacks as distance runners?

What about my other claims, that negroes make lousy swimmers, and lousy
kickboxers? Wanna address those? Were you maybe hoping that the big
stink over speedy negroes would sort of make THOSE claims just sort of
disappear?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Sun Nov 5 11:23:24 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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BFrank2642 ([email protected]) writes:
> Q: what do you call when a black woman gets an abortion?
> A: Crime Stoppers!
>
> like this joke?? share your with me!
>
> Oi….

Q: What do you call a negro in a 3-piece-suit?
A: Defendant.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:05:41 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
> Daniel Mittleman ([email protected]) wrote:
> : [email protected] (Michael P. Stein) writes…
> : >Les Griswold wrote:
> : >> So negroes make good LD runners. So what? Unlike you liberals, I can
> : >> admit when I’m not right.
> : >
> : > So tell us all about the Israeli Law of Return, Les….
>
> : And Hitler’s height and complexion…
>
> How about how Africa stayed in the Stone Age until the Europeans
> arrived? Those were cool.

Believe what you like, carrot-peeler-head man.

Stooie, just because you’ve picked up a couple of knee-grow “history”
books, with fairy tales about Africa before “da White man” came, doesn’t
mean diddly. Like I’ve maintained, if Africans had such mighty empires,
they sure have fallen pretty far pretty fast. They were in the Stone Age
when we found them, and at a pretty wretched level of the Stone Age, at that.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:14:49 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Has anyone found Abdrool’s brain yet?
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Stewart “Speedy Muffler” King ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Yep. African and Arabic Islamic cultures, while sharing a religion, had
> marked cultural differences. For example, African muslims retained their
> practice of tracing families through the mother rather than the father.

Necessity, my boy, as the fathers (then as well as now) had a habit of
becoming scarce when they found out their wimmin-folk were preggers. It’s
nice to see that negroes are preserving that tradition here, in the face
of all the racist oppression.

Stewart, you can call me “spatula-head man” if you want, and I promise not
to get upset. (Liberal assholes, please note: I have extended permission
to STEWART KING to call me names, not the rest of you
peanuts-in-my-shit-eaters, so don’t go getting all uppity).

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:14:50 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Yet more funny liberal “reasoning”!
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Cripes, they never stop coming out with this garbage! It’s really funny!

This week’s howler is about the jewish concpiracy. Typically, it goes
like this:

(WP supporter alleges that there is a jewish conspiracy).

(Insert favourite lib here): “I know X number of jews, and THEY’RE not in
any conspiracy! Therefore, since not all jews are in the conspiracy, NO
jews are in a conspiracy!”

Yeah, like jews would TELL you that they’re in a conspiracy. The first
SUCCESSFUL step of a conspiracy is to keep it hidden, no? I mean, what
the hell good is a conspiracy that everyone knows about?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:14:51 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Nicole Brown Simpson is not White (she’s sorta green now)
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Richard Marquez ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Les, can you tell us again why do didn’t consider Nichole Brown/Simpson
> “white”?

Never said that Nicole Brown Simpson wasn’t white. You really should stop
getting your accusations from Jeffrey Brown. I said Nicole Brown Simpson
wasn’t White. Get it yet?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:14:52 PST 1995
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
> Daniel Mittleman ([email protected]) wrote:
> : [email protected] (Michael P. Stein) writes…
> : >Les Griswold wrote:
> : >> So negroes make good LD runners. So what? Unlike you liberals, I can
> : >> admit when I’m not right.
> : >
> : > So tell us all about the Israeli Law of Return, Les….
>
> : And Hitler’s height and complexion…
>
> How about how Africa stayed in the Stone Age until the Europeans
> arrived? Those were cool.

Believe what you like, carrot-peeler-head man.

Stooie, just because you’ve picked up a couple of knee-grow “history”
books, with fairy tales about Africa before “da White man” came, doesn’t
mean diddly. Like I’ve maintained, if Africans had such mighty empires,
they sure have fallen pretty far pretty fast. They were in the Stone Age
when we found them, and at a pretty wretched level of the Stone Age, at that.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:14:53 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: FOUR TRUTHS THAT NO LIBERAL HAS REFUTED
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Slimy Lizard ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
>>> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
>>> : 1) That there is such a thing as race.
>>> Everybody not on crack recognizes this on at least the superficial,
>>> general level – obviously there are some people with darker skin that
>>> others, different sorts of hair, and so on.
>>Are you accusing your fellow liberals of being crack-addicts, then? As I
>>pointed out to Rajiv, is that this is the FIRST liberal shibboleth to go
>>the way of the dodo when discussing race.
>
> Les, what Stewart is saying, if I may be so bold as to understand
> simple english, is the there are minor differences in race, that are
> external, and obvious. We HAVE discussed this before. And you still
> haven’t properly outlined how one persons peach skin with freckles
> makes them better than another’s brown skin. Does this mean that the
> more one spends in the sunshine, the less likely they are to invent
> the automobile?

No, that’s what YOU say, and then you claim to “understand” our arguments.

> So Les, other than some minor cosmetic differences in these said ‘races’,
> they’re all the same.

You go right ahead and believe that if you want to.

>>> : 2) That the negro race is SIGNIFICANTLY less intelligent that the
>>> : White race.
>>> When you find a good, solid way of defining the “intelligence of a race”
>>> and then applying it to every individual in that race in a meaningful
>>> way, there might be something to refute.
>>*sigh* How slippery.
>>Of course, there are going to be exceptions to EVERY race. Negro
>>geniuses. White morons. But when speaking of RACES, it’s so obvious that
>>the WHITE race outclasses the BLACK race mentally, that one has to be a
>>true idiot or liar to maintain otherwise.
>
> Ah!!! Les’s amazing collapsable arguments! “Well, of course there
> are going to be EXCEPTIONS!”

And your point is…?

> Les, let me explain… When you say “Oh, of COURSE ther are smart
> Blacks, but really they’re all dumb.” That’s a contradiction, either
> stand your ground with your hopeless argument, or admit that you’re
> wrong.

Why, thank you for your generosity, but I think I’ll clarify for the
retards, of which you are obviously the foremost: I maintain (then as
now) that there are INDIVIDUAL exceptions to the rule, but the RACES are
quite different in their make-up.

> And if you haddn’t noticed, both White people and Black people are
> capable of independant thought. Saying that the White population
> outclasses the Black population doesn’t make YOU any smarter.
> Sorry…

As you should be. When did I ever say, or even suggest, that stating the
truths about negro mental inferiority made me any smarter?

(snip – continued in another string)

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:04 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: FOUR TRUTHS THAT NO RACISTS CAN REFUTE
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Foot-boy evil Beavis ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Now you’re being really stupid, buddy. You’re telling me there’s a “white
> culture”??! Let me suggest something – treat yourself and venture outside the
> U.S. sometime. Come to Europe and then tell me about that “white culture” we
> supposedly have…! When will you people ever learn?

Beaver, you don’t count. You’re proud of dating a negress, which you do
for the shock value, and you’re just a general cringing coward. So piss off.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:05 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected]
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
> :Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:
> :> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
> :
> :(snip)
> :
> :> :The only solution is separation or emmigration of all blacks.
> :>
> :> Wow. an almost reasonable (i.e. only unreasonable by 90%) restatement of
> :> the usual “I got a shotgun and I’m gonna fucking kill ’em all” argument.
> :
> :Which has appeared WHERE, Android?
>
> Have you ever read a post by Salty, Les? That’s about all he knows.

And has Salty ever said EXACTLY that? If not, where do you get off making
the inference?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:06 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Has anyone found Abdrool’s brain yet?
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Stewart “Speedy Muffler” King ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Yep. African and Arabic Islamic cultures, while sharing a religion, had
> marked cultural differences. For example, African muslims retained their
> practice of tracing families through the mother rather than the father.

Necessity, my boy, as the fathers (then as well as now) had a habit of
becoming scarce when they found out their wimmin-folk were preggers. It’s
nice to see that negroes are preserving that tradition here, in the face
of all the racist oppression.

Stewart, you can call me “spatula-head man” if you want, and I promise not
to get upset. (Liberal assholes, please note: I have extended permission
to STEWART KING to call me names, not the rest of you
peanuts-in-my-shit-eaters, so don’t go getting all uppity).

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:07 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Rick Jones… what an ass…
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Ricky Jones has been belly-aching that I haven’t given him “facts” to back
up my claims. Well, it may come as a real let-down for him, but he’s not
the centre of my universe. It’s no hair off my ass if he’s not happy with
the way I debate. Same goes for J.G. Brown, and all of the other assholes
who populate the ‘Net.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:08 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Yet more funny liberal “reasoning”!
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Cripes, they never stop coming out with this garbage! It’s really funny!

This week’s howler is about the jewish concpiracy. Typically, it goes
like this:

(WP supporter alleges that there is a jewish conspiracy).

(Insert favourite lib here): “I know X number of jews, and THEY’RE not in
any conspiracy! Therefore, since not all jews are in the conspiracy, NO
jews are in a conspiracy!”

Yeah, like jews would TELL you that they’re in a conspiracy. The first
SUCCESSFUL step of a conspiracy is to keep it hidden, no? I mean, what
the hell good is a conspiracy that everyone knows about?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:08 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Nicole Brown Simpson is not White (she’s sorta green now)
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Richard Marquez ([email protected]) writes:

(snip)

> Les, can you tell us again why do didn’t consider Nichole Brown/Simpson
> “white”?

Never said that Nicole Brown Simpson wasn’t white. You really should stop
getting your accusations from Jeffrey Brown. I said Nicole Brown Simpson
wasn’t White. Get it yet?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:09 PST 1995
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
> Daniel Mittleman ([email protected]) wrote:
> : [email protected] (Michael P. Stein) writes…
> : >Les Griswold wrote:
> : >> So negroes make good LD runners. So what? Unlike you liberals, I can
> : >> admit when I’m not right.
> : >
> : > So tell us all about the Israeli Law of Return, Les….
>
> : And Hitler’s height and complexion…
>
> How about how Africa stayed in the Stone Age until the Europeans
> arrived? Those were cool.

Believe what you like, carrot-peeler-head man.

Stooie, just because you’ve picked up a couple of knee-grow “history”
books, with fairy tales about Africa before “da White man” came, doesn’t
mean diddly. Like I’ve maintained, if Africans had such mighty empires,
they sure have fallen pretty far pretty fast. They were in the Stone Age
when we found them, and at a pretty wretched level of the Stone Age, at that.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:10 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ONE THING WHITE SUPREMACIST NEVER ANSWERS answer it Ron, Les, RC, Aryan Crusader, Salty, if you dare
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Richard Marquez ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
> : Android Walton ([email protected]) writes:
> : > :The only solution is separation or emmigration of all blacks.
> : > Wow. an almost reasonable (i.e. only unreasonable by 90%) restatement of
> : > the usual “I got a shotgun and I’m gonna fucking kill ’em all” argument.
> : Which has appeared WHERE, Android?
>
> How about here (these are just the most recent)…
>
> #Looks we have another target on the net. Happy hunting.
> # Salty
>
> #Interesting subject. Lynching niggers would be much cheaper than food
> #stamps, aid to dependent children, headstart, affirmative action, and
> #prisons. Taxes could be deeply slashed, and life in America could
> #return to normal. Where can I buy some rope quick?
> # Salty

Hmm. Very interesting. In all of that, I can’t see ONE reference to
Salty saying that he has a shotgun and he’s gonna kill ’em all. My
newsreader MUST be failing in some way: I KNOW that someone who’s morally
upstanding like you are wouldn’t be, um, stretching the truth just a wee
bit, now, would you?

> : Pretty funny. The libs can infer anything at all out of our statements,
> : but try that with the jews/semitophiles, and the FIRST thing out of their
> : mouths is, “WHERE, EXACTLY, did I say that?”
>
> No one said “you said that”, or “Griswold said that” (though you may have
> sometime in the past).

Get Kenny McOyVay or Jeffrey Brown to tell ya, they archive pretty much
everything I write (well, K.M. does).

Android made it quite clear: Salty’s regular M.O. was to post messages
that he had a shotgun and was gonna kill ’em all. None of these slippery
word games, please.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:11 PST 1995
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Foot-boy evil Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
>> [email protected] (R.C. Richards) writes:
>> evil Beavis wrote:
>>
>> > I guess
>> >Americans are spineless, cruel, and treacherous for stealing from the Indians,
>> >enslaving Africans etc.
>>
>> first of all, evil, we didn’t steal from the injuns: we fought them
>> fair and square. we won; they lost. second, as far as the africans
>> go, what do you say to the idea that we set that wrong right by
>> shipping them back where they came from?
>
> Why don’t we ship you off somewhere instead?

Because, Beaver, R.C.’s ancestors BUILT this country, made it worth living
in. WHAT did the indians do with it? NOTHING. WHAT would the negroes do
with it? NOTHING. WHAT would the orientals do with it? Build a wall, I
guess, but other than that, NOTHING. Why are you so stupid?

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 6 11:17:12 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Slimy Lizard ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
>>> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
>>> : 1) That there is such a thing as race.
>>> Everybody not on crack recognizes this on at least the superficial,
>>> general level – obviously there are some people with darker skin that
>>> others, different sorts of hair, and so on.
>>Are you accusing your fellow liberals of being crack-addicts, then? As I
>>pointed out to Rajiv, is that this is the FIRST liberal shibboleth to go
>>the way of the dodo when discussing race.
>
> Les, what Stewart is saying, if I may be so bold as to understand
> simple english, is the there are minor differences in race, that are
> external, and obvious. We HAVE discussed this before. And you still
> haven’t properly outlined how one persons peach skin with freckles
> makes them better than another’s brown skin. Does this mean that the
> more one spends in the sunshine, the less likely they are to invent
> the automobile?

No, that’s what YOU say, and then you claim to “understand” our arguments.

> So Les, other than some minor cosmetic differences in these said ‘races’,
> they’re all the same.

You go right ahead and believe that if you want to.

>>> : 2) That the negro race is SIGNIFICANTLY less intelligent that the
>>> : White race.
>>> When you find a good, solid way of defining the “intelligence of a race”
>>> and then applying it to every individual in that race in a meaningful
>>> way, there might be something to refute.
>>*sigh* How slippery.
>>Of course, there are going to be exceptions to EVERY race. Negro
>>geniuses. White morons. But when speaking of RACES, it’s so obvious that
>>the WHITE race outclasses the BLACK race mentally, that one has to be a
>>true idiot or liar to maintain otherwise.
>
> Ah!!! Les’s amazing collapsable arguments! “Well, of course there
> are going to be EXCEPTIONS!”

And your point is…?

> Les, let me explain… When you say “Oh, of COURSE ther are smart
> Blacks, but really they’re all dumb.” That’s a contradiction, either
> stand your ground with your hopeless argument, or admit that you’re
> wrong.

Why, thank you for your generosity, but I think I’ll clarify for the
retards, of which you are obviously the foremost: I maintain (then as
now) that there are INDIVIDUAL exceptions to the rule, but the RACES are
quite different in their make-up.

> And if you haddn’t noticed, both White people and Black people are
> capable of independant thought. Saying that the White population
> outclasses the Black population doesn’t make YOU any smarter.
> Sorry…

As you should be. When did I ever say, or even suggest, that stating the
truths about negro mental inferiority made me any smarter?

(snip – continued in another string)

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected]et.Carleton.CA Mon Nov 6 11:26:08 PST 1995
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
> Daniel Mittleman ([email protected]) wrote:
> : [email protected] (Michael P. Stein) writes…
> : >Les Griswold wrote:
> : >> So negroes make good LD runners. So what? Unlike you liberals, I can
> : >> admit when I’m not right.
> : >
> : > So tell us all about the Israeli Law of Return, Les….
>
> : And Hitler’s height and complexion…
>
> How about how Africa stayed in the Stone Age until the Europeans
> arrived? Those were cool.

Believe what you like, carrot-peeler-head man.

Stooie, just because you’ve picked up a couple of knee-grow “history”
books, with fairy tales about Africa before “da White man” came, doesn’t
mean diddly. Like I’ve maintained, if Africans had such mighty empires,
they sure have fallen pretty far pretty fast. They were in the Stone Age
when we found them, and at a pretty wretched level of the Stone Age, at that.

Les


“The whole [Celtic] nation is war-mad, both high-spirited and ready for
battle, but otherwise simple, though not uncultured.”
— Strabo, 1st century A.D. geographer

From [email protected] Tue Nov 28 04:15:26 PST 1995
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Elias Halldor Agustsson ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected] (gary) wrote:
>
>> everything but the individual you become the “cause”. This idea that
>> blacks have babys out of wedlock or don’t finish school or won’t get a job
>> because of the “system” is pure ignorance. They live that kind of life because
>> they can…they know they can get benefits from the government and live
>> well enough. If they were held accountable for those babys…and made to
>
> Yes, I think it is the same with all white populations. In almost
> completely white Iceland around half of all children under 5 were born out
> of wedlock. Probably for the same reasons.
> This is not a “white trash” thing. It is very common among professionals.

Ellias, re-read what you wrote. “It is very common among PROFESSIONALS.”
But the topic is, I believe, the number of negroes who have children out
of wedlock, and are NOT professionals, or even self-supporting.

Les

From [email protected] Tue Nov 28 04:19:21 PST 1995
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Elias Halldor Agustsson ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected] (gary) wrote:
>
>> everything but the individual you become the “cause”. This idea that
>> blacks have babys out of wedlock or don’t finish school or won’t get a job
>> because of the “system” is pure ignorance. They live that kind of life because
>> they can…they know they can get benefits from the government and live
>> well enough. If they were held accountable for those babys…and made to
>
> Yes, I think it is the same with all white populations. In almost
> completely white Iceland around half of all children under 5 were born out
> of wedlock. Probably for the same reasons.
> This is not a “white trash” thing. It is very common among professionals.

Ellias, re-read what you wrote. “It is very common among PROFESSIONALS.”
But the topic is, I believe, the number of negroes who have children out
of wedlock, and are NOT professionals, or even self-supporting.

Les

From [email protected] Tue Nov 28 11:16:56 PST 1995
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Elias Halldor Agustsson ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected] (gary) wrote:
>
>> everything but the individual you become the “cause”. This idea that
>> blacks have babys out of wedlock or don’t finish school or won’t get a job
>> because of the “system” is pure ignorance. They live that kind of life because
>> they can…they know they can get benefits from the government and live
>> well enough. If they were held accountable for those babys…and made to
>
> Yes, I think it is the same with all white populations. In almost
> completely white Iceland around half of all children under 5 were born out
> of wedlock. Probably for the same reasons.
> This is not a “white trash” thing. It is very common among professionals.

Ellias, re-read what you wrote. “It is very common among PROFESSIONALS.”
But the topic is, I believe, the number of negroes who have children out
of wedlock, and are NOT professionals, or even self-supporting.

Les

From [email protected] Tue Nov 28 16:29:51 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: A few questions about bi-polar jews…
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I have a few questions about jews, though. Which is their higher energy
state, the one where they obsess about bestiality, or the one where they
obsess about excrement? What happens when they go from the higher energy
state to the lower one? Do they give off heat? Should we line some of
’em up for some experiements?

Les

From [email protected] Wed Nov 29 07:09:29 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Say it ain’t so, Mr. Lockhart
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Ken McVay OBC ([email protected]) writes:
> In article ,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Joe Lockhart’s histrionic antisemitism necessitates a few questions.
>>Is this the same Joe Lockhart who is considered a stalwart of the Winnipeg
>>Manitoba KKK? Is this the same Joe Lockhart who teamed with fellow KKK alumni
>>Bill Harkus to establish a hate-line which was eventually shut down by the
>>Canadian Human Rights Commission? Say it ain’t so Joe!
>
> That’s interesting… looking in the index in Warren
> Kinsella’s “Web of Hate,” (Toronto: HarperCollins, 1995 – mine
> is the paperback flavour) I find references to “Joseph
> Lockhart” (44) and “Klansman Joseph Edward Lockhart” (52)…
> perhaps I will transcribe a bit of it when I find a bit of
> time, just to acquaint users here with the fellow…

With 16 hours a day to fart around on the ‘Net (contributing nothing
useful, but I digress…), how can you suggest that you need MORE time to
do so?

> How about it, Mr. Lockhart? Are you the selfsame “Klansman
> Lockhart,” or are you picking on me in the Stormfront list
> just because you don’t have anything better to do?

Les

From [email protected] Wed Nov 29 07:42:07 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: If Whites are so superior…
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Ben Madison) wrote:

> Where does all this antisemitic nonsense come from? Jews are white! White
> nationalists pride themselves on having higher cultural, political,
> economic and social achievements than other races. By any rational
> standard Jews rate highly on all these criteria. In their ability to
> preserve their identity, one could almost say Jews are the vanguard of
> the White race. Just look at Israel to see the struggle between
> civilization (Yigal Amir excepted) and barbarism. White Jews and Gentiles
> should quit this pointless bickering.

Please, give me a break. Jews, white? Well, you go right on ahead and
believe it if you want to. Just don’t expect anyone to take you seriously
if you do.

Les

From [email protected] Wed Nov 29 10:15:39 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Stewart King ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> : Liberals think that we really give two shits in a snowstorm what they do,
> : and they seem to think that they’re really trumping us when they tell us
> : that they’re off to engage in some heavy-duty race-mixing.
>
> Well, you asked.

We never did. So why the angst that you guys show, thinking you’ve got us
hoist over a crocodile pit by telling us that you’re going/already have
miscegenated? See, what you fail to understand is, that WANTING to engage
in racial mixing is proof of moral and physical degeneracy. Already
having done so is _prima facie_ evidence of genetic inferiority, and we
don’t miss you one bit. What the hell should we care about some softy lib
having bred his/her genes out of the White race, for once and for all?

> : Well, hate to break it to ya, libs, but WE don’t care in the least
> : about you, and the non-Whites can’t stand you. So, you’re gonna be
> : pretty lonely.
>
> I just went and looked at my web page that has links to all my friends’
> web pages. Here’s an ethnic breakdown:
>
> Proud White Aryan: 8 (33%)
> 2 British-based
> 1 Pole
> 1 Ukrainian Canadian
> 4 Nonspecific
>
> Black: 0 (0%)
> Well, I know a couple, but they don’t have web pages.

Gee, Stooie, why are we NOT surprised?

> Asian: 6 (25%)
> 4 Chinese
> 1 Korean
> 1 Malaysian/Taiwanese

If we hadn’t shown them how to use computers, they’d still be using
abacuses (abaci?)

> Other/Assorted: 10 (42%)
> 1 Hispanic
> 8 Jews
> 1 Lebanese
>
>
> And they all seem to like me, more or less depending on how many of their
> pets I’ve killed and eaten recently.

So, now you’re telling us that you regularly eat oriental?

> Frankly, I don’t think I’d be lonely at all. Dominant white culture has
> a lot of big annoying jocks and 80’s music in it. The Asian and Jewish
> cultures, Americanized editions, are more to my taste, as you can see from
> the stats. But hey, that’s just me.

Well, have fun. WE have contempt for you, non-Whites have contempt for
you. Here’s a quote from Albert Schweitzer’s _On The Edge of the Primeval
Forest_ for ya:

“One of our missionaries, Mr. Robert, left the staff some years ago to
live among the Negroes as their brother absolutely. He built himself a
small house near a village between Lambarene and N’Gomo, and wished to be
recognized as a member of the village. From that day his life became a
misery. With his abandonment of the social interval between white and
black he lost all his influence.”

How do your credentials stack up against Schweitzer’s, Stooie? For that
matter, can ANY liberal here claim to have put his beliefs into practice
like Albert Schweitzer did?

Les

From [email protected] Wed Nov 29 12:13:28 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Non-white bestsellers (was: A few more facts.)
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David Lynch ([email protected]) writes:
> : >KT wrote:
> : >>Of these 3 things which required a reasonable IQ, how many Whites, Yellows,
> : >>Arabs and Niggers:
> : >>
> : >>Have written best-seller books?
> : >>Pretty much only Whites.
>
> Um, what about the Bible? “Roots”? “The Autobiogaraphy of Malcom X”? “I
> Know Why The Caged Bird Sings”? “Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To
> Me”? Any of Walter Mosley’s books? Colin Powell’s book? Harold Kushner’s
> books? Care to name some white best-sellers? There are plenty, but I
> doubt you can name any offhand, seeing as how you’re so damn ignorant.

Yes, it’s relatively easy to rattle off a few bestsellers by non-Whites,
because they’re so rare generally, that they stick out.

Go back to flogging Denny’s. At least those messages were funny.

Les

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David Lynch ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
> : David Lynch ([email protected]) writes:
>
> : > Um, what about the Bible? “Roots”? “The Autobiogaraphy of Malcom X”? “I
> : > Know Why The Caged Bird Sings”? “Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To
> : > Me”? Any of Walter Mosley’s books? Colin Powell’s book? Harold Kushner’s
> : > books? Care to name some white best-sellers? There are plenty, but I
> : > doubt you can name any offhand, seeing as how you’re so damn ignorant.
>
> : Yes, it’s relatively easy to rattle off a few bestsellers by non-Whites,
> : because they’re so rare generally, that they stick out.
>
> So you think you can do better on the subject of literature than Speedy
> could? Heh. You on MY playground now, son! “The Communist Manifesto” by
> Karl Marx. “The End of Racism” by that DiSouza guy (shoulda had that one,
> bud!). O.J. Simpson’s “I Want To Tell You” (another easy one!). The works
> of Issac Asimov. “Makes Me Wanna Holler”, by Nathan McCall. “Future
> Shock” and “The Third Wave” by Alvin Toffler. Deepak Chopra. Bill Cosby.
> Aesop. Miguel de fucking Cervantes. I could go on and on and on, because I’m
> literate, and I read books. I know whereof I speak. You don’t. Now go on
> back to your “Aryan Nations”, son. It’s got nice big pictures.

Proof that best-selling is not synonymous with great literature.

Cripes, you sound like Adam Krims, who argued passionately that “hip-hop”
was real music, and my statement that it was “shit” did not constitute an
objective opinion. Sure, Ice-T CDs outsell Wagner’s “Ring”, but which is
great music? Hint: it’s not the Ice-T shit.

Les

From [email protected] Thu Nov 30 08:18:41 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Bryan Cowan ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> (Ben Madison) wrote:
>
>> Bryan Cowan ([email protected]) wrote:
>> : If Whites are so superior, then how come the Jews are running the world?
>>
>> Where does all this antisemitic nonsense come from? Jews are white! White
>> nationalists pride themselves on having higher cultural, political,
>> economic and social achievements than other races. By any rational
>> standard Jews rate highly on all these criteria. In their ability to
>> preserve their identity, one could almost say Jews are the vanguard of
>> the White race. Just look at Israel to see the struggle between
>> civilization (Yigal Amir excepted) and barbarism. White Jews and Gentiles
>> should quit this pointless bickering.
>
> It was a rhetorical question, okay? I don’t think the Jews run the world,
> but the same people who are going on about the superiority of the White
> race are the same ones who think that the Jews run the world, and I just
> wanted to know if the *master race* is so superior, then why aren’t THEY
> running things instead of the Jews? So far, Les Griswold hasn’t bothered
> to answer.

I have so. Follow your own damn string, ass.

Les

From [email protected] Thu Nov 30 08:18:43 PST 1995
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Foot-boy evil Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
>> [email protected] writes:
>> I have been hearing a lot recently about the explosive increase in crime
>> in South Africa.
>>
>> In America, all the niggers and their liberal allies, claim that RACISM
>> is at the heart of all the nigger’s problem. That these niggers are
>> forced into the lifestyle of raping, robbing, pimping, drug use, to mention
>> just some of the crimes.
>>
>> What about South Africa? What or Who can the niggers blame for the massive
>> increase in crime? They can’t blame racism this time. They have a nigger
>> government!
>>
>> This only goes to prove that we Whites were and are right all along – These
>> Niggers are simply following their instinct. I can see it now, 20 years
>> down the line, South Africa that White people created, will return to it’s
>> jungle state! Niggers heaven. totally unsafe for Humans to visit.
>>
>> So the next time one of these liberal types starts off about how the nigger
>> is not to blame, you can just say two words ‘South Africa’.
>>
>> Ps.
>> I haven’t been on the NET long, and have been a lurker on this newsgroup
>> for a while. I would like to congratulate Les G. and Rev Ron on a fine
>> job. You guys have a hell of a lot of flack fired in your direction, but
>> you come flying through. Keep up the good work!! It is people like you
>> that make this world a better place!
>>
>> Hail Victory, Whitewolf.
>>
>>>>>
> I think it’s people like you, always referring to people as niggers and talking about a
> “nigger government” you know nothing about,

Well, Foot-boy, why don’t you educate him, and us while you’re at it?
What has Whitewolf said that is untrue, and that reveals that he knows
“nothing about” South Africa? Is it really a paradise, a Garden of Eden
that is just chock full of negro accomplishments (like peanut butter?)

> that are the problem and the ones obviously to blame. You are a sad piece of
> shit –

Pot, kettle, black, Beaver.

> and most of us whites don’t consider you representative of our race.

And a degenerate like you is?

Les

From [email protected] Thu Nov 30 08:18:44 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: A quandry…
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I can’t decide if liberals are really as stupid as they come across, or
whether they’re actually closet racists, as R.C. Richards suggests, who
dislike vizmins, and are acting like foils, just giving us excuses to hold
forth, so that we can tell them what they want to hear. Oh well.

Les

From [email protected] Thu Nov 30 08:18:45 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Non-white bestsellers (was: A few more facts.)
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David Lynch ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
> : David Lynch ([email protected]) writes:
>
> : > Um, what about the Bible? “Roots”? “The Autobiogaraphy of Malcom X”? “I
> : > Know Why The Caged Bird Sings”? “Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To
> : > Me”? Any of Walter Mosley’s books? Colin Powell’s book? Harold Kushner’s
> : > books? Care to name some white best-sellers? There are plenty, but I
> : > doubt you can name any offhand, seeing as how you’re so damn ignorant.
>
> : Yes, it’s relatively easy to rattle off a few bestsellers by non-Whites,
> : because they’re so rare generally, that they stick out.
>
> So you think you can do better on the subject of literature than Speedy
> could? Heh. You on MY playground now, son! “The Communist Manifesto” by
> Karl Marx. “The End of Racism” by that DiSouza guy (shoulda had that one,
> bud!). O.J. Simpson’s “I Want To Tell You” (another easy one!). The works
> of Issac Asimov. “Makes Me Wanna Holler”, by Nathan McCall. “Future
> Shock” and “The Third Wave” by Alvin Toffler. Deepak Chopra. Bill Cosby.
> Aesop. Miguel de fucking Cervantes. I could go on and on and on, because I’m
> literate, and I read books. I know whereof I speak. You don’t. Now go on
> back to your “Aryan Nations”, son. It’s got nice big pictures.

Proof that best-selling is not synonymous with great literature.

Cripes, you sound like Adam Krims, who argued passionately that “hip-hop”
was real music, and my statement that it was “shit” did not constitute an
objective opinion. Sure, Ice-T CDs outsell Wagner’s “Ring”, but which is
great music? Hint: it’s not the Ice-T shit.

Les

From [email protected] Thu Nov 30 19:52:49 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: What excuse has the nigger?
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([email protected]) writes:
> I have been hearing a lot recently about the explosive increase in crime
> in South Africa.

Yes, it’s interesting to note that the liberals aren’t bandying this issue
around anymore. Remember before the fall of _apartheid_? You couldn’t
flick on the ‘set or pick up a newspaper without seeing/reading about the
fight for “equality”, but now the liberals seem almighty ashamed of South
Africa, to judge by the lack of attention they give it. What’s up, libs?

> In America, all the niggers and their liberal allies, claim that RACISM
> is at the heart of all the nigger’s problem. That these niggers are
> forced into the lifestyle of raping, robbing, pimping, drug use, to mention
> just some of the crimes.
>
> What about South Africa? What or Who can the niggers blame for the massive
> increase in crime? They can’t blame racism this time. They have a nigger
> government!

Oh, undoubtedly they’ll blame “lingering racism”, or say that the
governmental institutions are inherently racist because they are a White
creation. Grasping at straws…

> This only goes to prove that we Whites were and are right all along – These
> Niggers are simply following their instinct. I can see it now, 20 years
> down the line, South Africa that White people created, will return to it’s
> jungle state! Niggers heaven. totally unsafe for Humans to visit.

Not a pretty picture.

> So the next time one of these liberal types starts off about how the nigger
> is not to blame, you can just say two words ‘South Africa’.

I prefer to say four words “You’re full of shit” (to liberals, that is).

Les

From [email protected] Fri Dec 1 13:34:38 PST 1995
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> [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
> evil Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
> >> [email protected] (Mr Richard Ethan Latker) writes:
> >> Somebody wrote:
> >> : > I’m not sure it can be solidly stated that the standard of living in North America
> >> : > is “head and shoulders” above Japan. I’d rather live here than there, but
> >> : > mine is a biased opinion and there are some very good arguments to be made
> >> : > that Japan is a better place to live. (Lower unemployment, lower violent crime
> >> : > rates, etc.) Now, the Japanese were not white the last time I checked. So
> >> : > it would appear, once again, that you’re lying.
> >>
> >> Les Griswold (Mr Grizzly) responded, apparently without thinking very deeply:
> >> :
> >> : Oh, really? Well, then, why are the Japanese copying Western ideals, and
> >> : not vice-versa?
> >>
> >> Excuse me, Herr Grizzleberg, but I think you know as well as I do that the
> >> Japanese infatuation with things American runs about as deep as the skin
> >> on a french fry.
> >
> > Not only that, a lot of American features of Japanese government were enforced upon
> > them after the defeat in WWII. Thus, many of them are not viewed as appropriate by
> > Japanese people and therefore usually ignored. For example, the Japanese supreme
> > court, based upon a very active American one, has never ruled a government law
> > unconstitutional!
>
> The point still stands, Foot-boy: why are the nips copying US, and not us
> copying THEM?
>
> Les

Many big corporations in the U.S., especially in the auto industry, have and are copying
managerial as well as “group work” techniques that have been proven successful in Japan.
The concepts of community policing and several aspects of current criminal justice reforms
have been derived from Japanese practices – some with greater success than others.
Overall Japan copies the U.S. more, and it’s a lot more visible. Such as baseball and
American movies etc.

eB

From [email protected] Sat Dec 2 07:50:52 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: A few more facts. (Was Re: Million Monkey March)
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Rajiv K. Gandhi ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (KT) wrote:

(snip)

>> Writing itself IS a European innovation, you idiot. Every race/culture has
>> invented it’s own way of writing (except the negro etc.) But the modern
>> Western European way of writing, is without doubt the slickest of ’em all.
>
> Eh? Great logic here little man. Writing is most definately an invention
> of the black man. The first person to write something down was more likely
> than not, a black man or woman.

And, of course, in Rajiv’s world, “more likely than not” translates into
“I’m right, you’re wrong, so THERE!”.

Hey, Jeffy, gonna start sending this cherry e-mail, refuting his errors?

Les

From [email protected] Sat Dec 2 08:12:04 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: A few more facts. (Was Re: Million Monkey March)
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Rajiv K. Gandhi ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (KT) wrote:

(snip)

>> Writing itself IS a European innovation, you idiot. Every race/culture has
>> invented it’s own way of writing (except the negro etc.) But the modern
>> Western European way of writing, is without doubt the slickest of ’em all.
>
> Eh? Great logic here little man. Writing is most definately an invention
> of the black man. The first person to write something down was more likely
> than not, a black man or woman.

And, of course, in Rajiv’s world, “more likely than not” translates into
“I’m right, you’re wrong, so THERE!”.

Hey, Jeffy, gonna start sending this cherry e-mail, refuting his errors?

Les

From [email protected] Sat Dec 2 08:20:59 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Black Family Values
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Rajiv K. Gandhi ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (KT) wrote:
>
>> That’s because many Whites are forced to live in the same ‘hood as niggers.
>> Are forced to go to the same school as niggers. Are forced to ride the same
>> bus as niggers. Are forced to watch niggers on TV. Are forced to walk the
>> same streets as niggers, etc. etc. etc.
>
> 1) They can transfer schools. Plenty of them out there.

You make it sound so EASY. In order to transfer schools, the parents
generally have to move into another school district, and they ALSO have to
sell at a loss.

But then, that’s the solution that you “pacifists” always come up with:
run away from your problems.

> 2) They can walk, ride a bike, ake a cab, get on a different bus.

Walk: so that they can be out in the open for negro gangs?

Ride a bike: smae as above, but giving the gangs another reason to rob them?

Take a cab: pretty expensive.

Get on a different bus: and the school board would be just so willing to
send an extra bus for white people who don’t feel comfortable being on the
same bus as a bunch of rowdy negroes, eh? NOT.

> 3) They could turn off the TV and read a book. (You can READ, can’t you?)

Good advice, for once. A growing number of White people are doing just that.

> Noobody forces anybody to do anything.

No, but choices CAN be limited by economics, tool.

Les

From [email protected] Sat Dec 2 08:22:03 PST 1995
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Rajiv K. Gandhi ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (KT) wrote:
>
>> That’s because many Whites are forced to live in the same ‘hood as niggers.
>> Are forced to go to the same school as niggers. Are forced to ride the same
>> bus as niggers. Are forced to watch niggers on TV. Are forced to walk the
>> same streets as niggers, etc. etc. etc.
>
> 1) They can transfer schools. Plenty of them out there.

You make it sound so EASY. In order to transfer schools, the parents
generally have to move into another school district, and they ALSO have to
sell at a loss.

But then, that’s the solution that you “pacifists” always come up with:
run away from your problems.

> 2) They can walk, ride a bike, ake a cab, get on a different bus.

Walk: so that they can be out in the open for negro gangs?

Ride a bike: smae as above, but giving the gangs another reason to rob them?

Take a cab: pretty expensive.

Get on a different bus: and the school board would be just so willing to
send an extra bus for white people who don’t feel comfortable being on the
same bus as a bunch of rowdy negroes, eh? NOT.

> 3) They could turn off the TV and read a book. (You can READ, can’t you?)

Good advice, for once. A growing number of White people are doing just that.

> Noobody forces anybody to do anything.

No, but choices CAN be limited by economics, tool.

Les