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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Changing definitions (was: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance)
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[email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote:
>You know, a very brilliant professor I had in college talked about how you
>can track the decline of a society by the way they change the meanings of
>words. You know, “final solution,” “living space,” “terminate with extreme
>prejudice,” things like that.
Or “African-American”, or the elimination of “jew” as a verb, or
“discrimination”, or “anti-semitism”, things like that.
Les
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squarely on the shoulders of us here today. Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sat Mar 2 09:39:51 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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R.C. Richards ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Gord McFee) wrote:
(snip)
>>>fester would like anything she could get, but for some reason i think me
>>>and fester would get along better from a distance, and the greater the
>>>distance, the better we’d get along.
>
>>I noticed you clipped part of my post, you know, the part that said: “Hell,
>>if you hit her enough times, she might even get to like you.” Pretty
>>typical of a scumbag like you.
>
> ha! pretty typical that i clipped your suggestions that i beat up a
> woman, huh? your suggestion, goofus, is disgusting, and that’s why i
> clipped it.
Well, you see, R.C., liberal males think that smacking their women around
shows them (the women) that they (the males) aren’t whimps, they’re really
men. So it stands to reason that liberal males would think that’s the way ALL
men relate to their women.
Les
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Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sat Mar 2 10:11:15 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Graves’ forged header
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Jew Rosenboig ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>
>>>I understand that your family is ashamed of you, but you’re not hiding
>>>from them here.
>
>>Where do you get this bullshit, Graves? The ravings of Rosenberg are not
>>facts.
>
> Well, you’ve demonstrably lied about them, Mortie. At one point you claimed
> that they were listed in the phone book, and then when you got caught out, you
> claimed that they were unlisted, and had always been.
Maybe Milton (rightly) feels that IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Les
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Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sat Mar 2 10:11:16 PST 1996
Article: 14817 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Evolution (was: Looking like an ape.)
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Paul Whitehouse ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <4h3d[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
>
>> No we white people sprang from a lower life form BLAX and assorted
>>other mudd scum have not yet sprung from their lowly cacoon!
>
> Your synapses are over-gapped, aren’t they son? You are mistaken in your
> assumption. We all evolved from the same ape, and are comprised of exactly
> the same genetic material.
Yes, and some of us have evolved further than others.
> In fact, to demonstrate just how ridiculous your genetic superiority
> assumptions are, consider the fact that we share 98% of our genetic material
> with our closest genetic cousin, the chimpanzee
Therefore, there is OBVIOUSLY a LOT of difference in that remaining 2%.
> – and in fact our hemoglobin is identical to that of chimpanzees.
Which proves what, exactly? Our hemoglobin may indeed be “identical” to
that of chimpanzees, but we OBVIOUSLY aren’t identical to chimpanzees.
> Genetically speaking we are identical as white people to black folk, asians,
> hispanics, native americans or what have you.
Oh, horse-droppings.
> Any differences are imposed by the environment, and are therefore artificial
> and NOT ingrained in the individual. learn to read. Read a book. Enrich your
> mind.
Sounds like good advice, liberal swine.
Les
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Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sat Mar 2 10:11:17 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Joel Rosenberg and his child abuse
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Milton Kleim ([email protected]) writes:
> Why Joel Rosenberg (wrongly) assumes my parents don’t love me (it’s a
> reflection of his own worst fears and experiences). If he weren’t such a
> dirty bastard, I might feel sorry for him (even if he is an obnoxious kike).
>
> From: http://www.winternet.com/~joelr (his short biography)
>
>
> We lived in first in Hatton, then Northwood, North Dakota — a little
> town of about a thousand folks — for a few years, then moved on to
> Connecticut. It’s about here I’m tempted to discuss my remarkably
> dysfunctional family-of-origin, but I did promise to keep this short.
> Check out the essays, if you’re interested. Or don’t. Short form: best
> estimates are that two-thirds of abused kids don’t go on to be abusers
> themselves, and I do my best to be part of that majority.
Notice that Joel says he _does his best_ to be a part of the majority, ie
not to abuse his OWN kids, like he was obviously abused, not that he IS a
part of the non-dysfunctional fathers. Does this mean that Miss Rosenberg
comes in for a few good “thwacks” when she “deserves” it?
Les
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From [email protected] Sat Mar 2 10:15:58 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Graves’ forged header
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Jew Rosenboig ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>
>>>I understand that your family is ashamed of you, but you’re not hiding
>>>from them here.
>
>>Where do you get this bullshit, Graves? The ravings of Rosenberg are not
>>facts.
>
> Well, you’ve demonstrably lied about them, Mortie. At one point you claimed
> that they were listed in the phone book, and then when you got caught out, you
> claimed that they were unlisted, and had always been.
Maybe Milton (rightly) feels that IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Les
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organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sat Mar 2 10:15:59 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Evolution (was: Looking like an ape.)
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Paul Whitehouse ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <4h3d[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
>
>> No we white people sprang from a lower life form BLAX and assorted
>>other mudd scum have not yet sprung from their lowly cacoon!
>
> Your synapses are over-gapped, aren’t they son? You are mistaken in your
> assumption. We all evolved from the same ape, and are comprised of exactly
> the same genetic material.
Yes, and some of us have evolved further than others.
> In fact, to demonstrate just how ridiculous your genetic superiority
> assumptions are, consider the fact that we share 98% of our genetic material
> with our closest genetic cousin, the chimpanzee
Therefore, there is OBVIOUSLY a LOT of difference in that remaining 2%.
> – and in fact our hemoglobin is identical to that of chimpanzees.
Which proves what, exactly? Our hemoglobin may indeed be “identical” to
that of chimpanzees, but we OBVIOUSLY aren’t identical to chimpanzees.
> Genetically speaking we are identical as white people to black folk, asians,
> hispanics, native americans or what have you.
Oh, horse-droppings.
> Any differences are imposed by the environment, and are therefore artificial
> and NOT ingrained in the individual. learn to read. Read a book. Enrich your
> mind.
Sounds like good advice, liberal swine.
Les
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organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sat Mar 2 15:09:45 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Here we go ‘gain (was: Louis Beam, Censorship and the
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Gord McFee ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> Griswold) said:
>
>>”Blinded by prejudice”. Seems to me that that is a PERFECT description of
>>you pig-headed, idiotic liberals. You’d rather DIE than admit that there
>>may indeed be something to the claims that there are RACE-BASED
>>differences between humans, there IS such a thing as race, and that
>>preserving racial homogeneity is a desirable goal. Liberal “evidence” of
>>their perverted positions consists almost entirely of name-calling and
>>misrepresentation.
>
> Oh stop, Les. Who here has denied that there are race-based differences in
> humans? Or that there is such a thing as race?
Oh, only everybody who comes up with the phrase “There’s only ONE race —
the HUMAN race!”
You know, Gordie, you’re a blinking idiot, along with every other liberal
who comes down the pike, puffed up over his own “intellectual superiority”
to the “Natsees”. It’s not MY problem if people are too blind to see the
obvious, or too scared to say it.
Les
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Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sat Mar 2 15:29:48 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Milton “Mortie” Kleim whines again, and again, and again, and . .
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Jew Rosenboig ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
(snip)
>>From: http://www.winternet.com/~joelr (his short biography)
>
>>
>> We lived in first in Hatton, then Northwood, North Dakota — a little
>> town of about a thousand folks — for a few years, then moved on to
>> Connecticut. It’s about here I’m tempted to discuss my remarkably
>> dysfunctional family-of-origin, but I did promise to keep this short.
>> Check out the essays, if you’re interested. Or don’t. Short form: best
>> estimates are that two-thirds of abused kids don’t go on to be abusers
>> themselves, and I do my best to be part of that majority.
>>
>
> Yup. That’s what I wrote.
Are you trying to set us up so you can use your dark past as an excuse for
being such a prick?
Conversation from the Rosenboig household in Northwood:
Rosenberg _pere_: Joel, clean up your room! It’s a mess!
Young Joel: Fuck you, you lying nazi! Have you stopped fucking your dog yet?
Les
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From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 08:09:36 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: “Liberals,” “smacking women around,” & George Burdi
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Ken McOyVay OBC ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>
>>Well, you see, R.C., liberal males think that smacking their women around
>>shows them (the women) that they (the males) aren’t whimps, they’re really
>>men. So it stands to reason that liberal males would think that’s the way ALL
>>men relate to their women.
>
> Thus Canada’s Fearless Aryan Woman-Stomper, George Burdi,
> becomes a “liberal,” one Fearless and Brave Enough to have
> kicked a 110-pound woman in the face with a steel-toed boot.
Keep it up, Kenny. Alicia Reckzin was not then, and never was, George
Burdi’s woman. And she got what she wanted – she wanted to “take [us]
fuckers on RIGHT NOW!”. She tried, and got a boot for her problems.
Les
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organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 08:09:38 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: “White” Earwax: Griswoldese Dictionary
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Ken McVay OBC ([email protected]) writes:
> [The Grisbonneau]
>
>>>Uh, maybe, Keith, that’s because I NEVER SAID that earwax determined
>>>superiority. I merely stated that it was ONE indicator of race, but
>>>that got lost in the name-calling and vituperation of you liberal
>>>swine.
>
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> From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
> Subject: Re: Miltie in the Sky With DIamonds
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>
> In a previous posting, Raskolnikov ([email protected]) writes:
>
> (snip)
>
>> If you’re trying to say that the colour of one’s skin
>> determines their species, then you’ve got a lot to learn
>> about speciation. Unless of course you can point to some other
>> differences due to _biology_, like genetic separation, mating
>> barriers, etc.
>
> Sure. Skin TEXTURE, body odour, formation of the ear wax, enzymes
> excreted in the urine, form of hair, bone structure, facial features,
> brain structure (not including size). Why do twinkies like you always assume
> that we’re only talking about skin colour?
Nice of you to archive that, and re-post it. As even YOU can quite
clearly see, it refers to Rassy’s angst over how we use skin colour, and
nothing but, to determine someone’s SPECIES, or, more accurately, race.
Gee, with YOU around, to set these liberal shits straight on what I really
said, I don’t need to worry, do I?
> Liberalism is not a philosophy, but a disease of the soul.
>
> -Dr. William L. Pierce
It is, you know.
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Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 08:09:39 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Carleton Putnam (was: Here we go ‘gain)
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Laura Finsten (fins[email protected]) kisses Keith Morrison’s ass by
writing:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
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>>That’s bullshit and you know it. Mr. Putnam lines up some rather
>>impressive scientific evidence in his book, and even arranges it in
>>question-and-answer format to make it easy to understand. You are lying
>>outrageously when you say that he has no “objective scientific fact[s]” in
>>his book.
>
> Herr Oberfarteneinenweinden, you seem not to understand that a
> *businessman* with no scientific credentials is not a credible source
> for “scientific evidence”. If you want “scientific evidence” you
> should turn to recent and up-to-date science, and if you want medical
> advice you should ask a physician rather than an astrologer.
And if you *read* my message, instead of just dismissing it as “Natsee”
stuff, you’d have seen that I DON’T engage in the word-play that you
liberals delight in, but say that Keith Morrison is misrepresenting FACTS.
Mr. Putnam’s book is very easy to read, and the references (of which
there are many) are very easy to verify. I, in fact, did just that.
> And whether it is “easy to understand” is irrelevant to its credibility
> as scientific evidence.
More word-games. Sheesh, you liberals really get off on this, don’t you?
> The idea of the tooth fairy can be explained in a way to make it easily
> understood by a 5 year old, but this does not make it *true*.
Interesting that you use the analogy of the tooth fairy to make your
point. Belief in fairy tales is a liberal keystone.
(snip)
>>> Third, Lester lied by omission. He *specifically* mentioned
>>> earwax as showing differences between races, with the implied
>>> statement that it’s one of the things that seperates whites from
>>> blacks when in fact the book states that whites and blacks have the
>>> exact same form of ear wax.
>>
>>It does not. Besides, earwax is just ONE of MANY factors looked at.
>
> Here goes Herr Oberunterstumpfenfuehrer again with his brilliant
> “does not” argument. Note how he refers to the specific page and
> quotes the exact words, not misleadingly removed from context, to
> demonstrate that Keith is wrong.
How arrogant of you to think that *ANYTHING* you, or one of your liberal
fellow travellers has to say, is important, or will cause some sort of
angst in “Natsee” ranks. Nor am I concerned about what “lurkers” may
think. See, many lurkers here have a very good idea already of what
arrogant little pricks the vast majority of you liberals are, and will
take ANYTHING you say with a very large grain of salt.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 10:18:09 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Graves’ forged header
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Jew Rosenboig ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>
>>>I understand that your family is ashamed of you, but you’re not hiding
>>>from them here.
>
>>Where do you get this bullshit, Graves? The ravings of Rosenberg are not
>>facts.
>
> Well, you’ve demonstrably lied about them, Mortie. At one point you claimed
> that they were listed in the phone book, and then when you got caught out, you
> claimed that they were unlisted, and had always been.
Maybe Milton (rightly) feels that IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
Les
—
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squarely on the shoulders of us here today. Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 13:15:10 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Here we go ‘gain (was: Louis Beam, Censorship and the Nation
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Excuse me? As I recall *Les* was the one who, to support his
> “scientific” assertions, mentioned two books written not by a
> scientist but by a businessman who was blatantly prejudiced and that
> have absolutely no scientific value whatsoever. Have you ever read
> that author? I have. And I dare you to find a single objective
> scientific fact in his book “Race and Reason” that has anything to
> do with human biology aside from his absolutely brilliant deduction
> that people have different skin colours.
That’s bullshit and you know it. Mr. Putnam lines up some rather
impressive scientific evidence in his book, and even arranges it in
question-and-answer format to make it easy to understand. You are lying
outrageously when you say that he has no “objective scientific fact[s]” in
his book.
> Furthermore one of the authors Les mentioned *specifically* stated a
> position opposed to the one Les takes, to whit that one cannot claim
> superiority based on what he calls racial groups.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, Keith.
> Secondly, he specifically states that Jews are not and never have been a
> “racial” group.
So? I never said that Carleton Coon was an oracle, right in *every
regard*, nor do I make that claim for John Baker. For cryin’ out loud,
even Peter Brimelow, in _Alien Nation_, makes reference to the “holocaust”
as if it were fact.
> Third, Lester lied by omission. He *specifically* mentioned
> earwax as showing differences between races, with the implied
> statement that it’s one of the things that seperates whites from
> blacks when in fact the book states that whites and blacks have the
> exact same form of ear wax.
It does not. Besides, earwax is just ONE of MANY factors looked at.
> … After all if you did not
> that would indicate an inability to research independently and
> indicate prejudice in the fact that you take Les’s words at face
> value while automatically assuming I was lying or misstating the
> case.
Aw, poor baby.
Les
—
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squarely on the shoulders of us here today. Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 16:12:39 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: LONG TERMS IN BEATING
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HALIFAX (CP) – Six blacks have all been sentenced to long prison
terms for a “merciless and senseless attack” that left a white fraternity
brother brain-damaged.
Justice Jamie Saunders of Nova Scotia Supreme Court said Friday
the attack, FRAUGHT WITH RACIAL OVERTONES, would “raise the bile in any
human”. It included stomps and kicks to the victim’s head.
Four of the young men got eight years for kicking and beating
Darren Watts, a top student and charity volunteer who tried to save a girl
>from an abuser. A fifth got seven years and the sixth got six.
Four of the attackers received additiional two-year terms for
beating two other fraternity brothers in September 1994.
**********
[capitals not in original]
>From the _Ottawa Sunday Sun_, March 3 1995, page SIXTEEN.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 16:14:44 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: LONG TERMS IN BEATING
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HALIFAX (CP) – Six blacks have all been sentenced to long prison
terms for a “merciless and senseless attack” that left a white fraternity
brother brain-damaged.
Justice Jamie Saunders of Nova Scotia Supreme Court said Friday
the attack, FRAUGHT WITH RACIAL OVERTONES, would “raise the bile in any
human”. It included stomps and kicks to the victim’s head.
Four of the young men got eight years for kicking and beating
Darren Watts, a top student and charity volunteer who tried to save a girl
>from an abuser. A fifth got seven years and the sixth got six.
Four of the attackers received additiional two-year terms for
beating two other fraternity brothers in September 1994.
**********
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>From the _Ottawa Sunday Sun_, March 3 1995, page SIXTEEN.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 23:20:24 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Hey, Gordie! (was: Evolution)
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> Paul Whitehouse ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Genetically speaking we are identical as white people to black folk, asians,
> hispanics, native americans or what have you.
Geez, it’s almost as if somebody CUED Whitehouse to come out with this
RIGHT AFTER McFly asked me WHO says this sort of stuff.
Les
—
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squarely on the shoulders of us here today. Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Sun Mar 3 23:25:55 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: WHITE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE SEVERELY DAMAGED THE PLANET, TIME TO LEAVE!
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>>
>> But the Turd World is striving mightily to catch up. It is only WHITES
>> who feel any responsibilty to repair the damage they have caused.
>
> Because industrial nations (mostly white) have been causing most
> of the pollution for the last 100 years. Many Third World countries
> have only just started to create industries, and so they haven’t polluted
> nearly as much.
Bullshit. You ever hear of Brazillian slash-and-burn forestry? How about
in South-East Asia?
Les
—
“The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today. Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!” — Bob Mathews
From [email protected] Mon Mar 4 08:27:40 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Alicia Reckzin (was: “Liberals,” “smacking women around,”…)
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Ken McVay OBC ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>
>>Well, you see, R.C., liberal males think that smacking their women around
>>shows them (the women) that they (the males) aren’t whimps, they’re really
>>men. So it stands to reason that liberal males would think that’s the way ALL
>>men relate to their women.
>
> Thus Canada’s Fearless Aryan Woman-Stomper, George Burdi,
> becomes a “liberal,” one Fearless and Brave Enough to have
> kicked a 110-pound woman in the face with a steel-toed boot.
You know what’s really funny? Alicia Reckzin, the fearless ARA
spokesthing in Ottawa, used to be a racist, had a racist for a boyfriend
(and subsequent father for how many I don’t know, of her kids, one of whom
died in a fire), and has a swastika tatooed on her body!
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 4 08:57:14 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Nationalism (was: Evolution)
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) whines, like a snow tire on wet
pavement:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
> [edit]
>
>>You wish. Nationalism is the wave of the future, Fester. Obviously, this
>>scares you silly. You just CAN’T STAND that someone is more in tune with
>>the future than you are, can you? You’re determined that EVERYONE White
>>is going to go down to miscegenation suicide with you, aren’t you?
>
> I gather that you mean that “white” nationalism is the wave of the future,
> Herr Untergooberearenwaxenfuehrer.
Yes, White natioalism being ONE of MANY forms of nationalism prevalent.
I include such phenomenon as the NOI, Orthodox jews, and others, who want
nothing to do with mixing it up with other races, the merits of these
non-White nationalists notwithstanding.
> I know a whole bunch of very proud
> nationalists, Canadians all, although I gather none of us would be
> admitted to your selected group of half a dozen or so. Wrong skin colour,
> wrong ideology, that kind of “flaw” that means we’re just not “good enough”.
I’m not talking about phoney “nationalism” to a moribund, decadent state.
I’m talking about loyalty to the only thing that matters: RACE. You
can’t seem to get that through your dense head.
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 4 08:57:14 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Evolution (was: Looking like an ape.)
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Stephen Judd ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>
>> > Genetically speaking we are identical as white people to black folk, asians,
>> > hispanics, native americans or what have you.
>>
>> Oh, horse-droppings.
>
> Mais ouis. That fine book _The History and Geography of Human Genes_ by
> Cavalli-Sforza maps genetic variations between different human
> populations. (BTW, even Ourobouros cites this guy as an authority, so he
> must be kosher, if you’ll pardon the expression.)
Was this Cavalli-Sforza BEFORE he called for a banning of race-based
genetic research?
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 4 08:57:15 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: International zionist conspiracy
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FreshAgain ([email protected]) writes:
> Thank you for providing your full name.
>
> It’ll make it easier for my report to the INS.
This is typical jewish “debate”: they can’t win by reason alone, so they
go for intimidation.
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 4 09:00:26 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: WHITE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE SEVERELY DAMAGED THE PLANET, TIME TO LEAVE!
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>> Bullshit. You ever hear of Brazillian slash-and-burn forestry? How about
>> in South-East Asia?
>
> Most of the forests in Britain disappeared in the 19th and early 20th
> centuries.
Uh, Caesar? Is this the 19th, or early 20th, century?
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Political Correctness Gone Totally Absurd
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Ilias Kotsovolos ([email protected]) writes:
> Dan Browne wrote:
>>
>> [email protected] (Alleycat) wrote:
>> >It would be terrible if police
>> >were not allowed to state the colour or nationality of a
>> >criminal. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to find
>> >people if police could only say they were looking for a tall
>> >man with dark hair?”
>>
>> It’s almost at this stage already. In Canada you are *not* allowed to
>> hold any information pertaining to race, colour, ethnicity, height,
>> weight etc at all or it could be a potential “human rights abuse”.
>>
>> Having said that, I’m not convinced that any one particular group is
>> naturally predisposed to crimincal activity because of colour or
>> whatever.
>
> While I agree that color is not a factor in criminal activity, the social
> and cultural upbringing is.
How can you say that, when we aren’t allowed to keep crime statistics based
on race? The only way to definitely prove that race is a factor in crime
is to isolate it; conversely, the only way to CONCLUSIVELY prove that it
ISN’T is to likewise isolate it.
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 6 08:10:22 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Milton “Mortie” Kleim: nazi, babbling nazi, archived babbling nazi, whiny archived babbling nazi
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FreshAgain ([email protected]) writes:
> Make you a deal, Milton.
>
> Split the price of an airline ticket to the twin cities with me, and I’ll
> beat the crap out of you myself, ok? For me, it’d be well worth it.
Geez, you’re tough!
Look, quit trying to pick up the torch from adam.3t. His 10 free hours
>from AOL ended, and he’s gone, all right? That’s just the way it is.
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 6 08:43:29 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Kerri Liason ([email protected]) writes:
> The terroristic actions of Arabs recently have mede it very cleer
> the the Jewish people should stop building the wall to seperate the
> west bank, and in the interest of less violence disarm themselves.
> If they are allowed to keep and bare arms they are just more likely
> to have those arms taken from them by a terrorist, and used against
> them or their families. Can’t they all just get along?
What you have to understand, Kerri, is that jews REALLY BELIEVE that they
are above any normal considerations. It’s quite all right for them to
engineer the flooding of Aryan countries with non-Whites, and then to
lobby to deny us the means to defend ourselves from the results of their
chicanery, but heaven forbid that their own “reasoning” should be used
against them!
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 6 08:43:30 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Jew bashing – GOOD Policy (was: Jew-Bashing – Bad Policy)
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Dan Bennett ([email protected]) writes:
> Did any of you ever considered what has historically happened to people
> who saw fit to deal badly with the Jews? Let’s go backward from modern
> times and take a look, shall we?
>
> First, let’s look at the most obvious case: Germany. Full-scale
> high-tech (circa 1940s) attempt to wipe out the Jews. Result: country
> bombed into junk and divided up among its conquerors.
>
> Eastern Europe. Nasty history of pogroms and semi-organized waves of
> oppression against the Jews in various countries. Result: saddled with
> totalitarian Communist gov’t, bled dry from war with Nazis, and then
> later split up into tiny, often warring sinks of poverty and want.
>
> The Middle East: Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iran, Iraq, all waging
> intermittent war against Israel, and all are 3rd world stinkholes with
> little or no prospect of ever being anything else.
>
> Contrast these abject failures with the nations that have dealt better
> with the Jews. The Jews have fared better at the hands of the
> English-speaking peoples than they have anywhere else, and who
> effectively rules the world? You guessed it.
(snip)
Last time counts for all.
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 6 08:49:45 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: White Racists; don’t you ever fantasise about Black women’s arses?
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Fragano Ledgister ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
> : No.
>
> : Les
>
> Why not?
Because I don’t find them worthwhile material for my fantasies.
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 6 08:49:47 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: National Alliance
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Michael ([email protected]) writes:
> Hello!
>
> What is the National Alliance???
> Can someone tell me something about it???
>
> Thanks…
Website at:
http://www.natvan.com
Snail mail:
National Alliance
P.O. Box 90
Hillsboro WV
24946 U.S.A.
Voice mail:
1 (304) 653-4600
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 6 17:33:39 PST 1996
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Jeff ([email protected]) writes:
> On Sun, 3 Mar 1996, Les Griswold wrote:
>> Jeff ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
>> > 1935 will go down in history.
>> > For the first time, a
>> > civilized nation has full gun
>> > registration…the world
>> > will follow our lead into the
>> > future! -Adolf Hitler
>>
>> Bull-puckey. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
>
> That’s the point of the quote, to mock what Hitler did and what
> became of it, hence the little explanation under it.
(the little explanation being “gun control = genocide”)
I suppose that’s motivation, of sorts. However, you’re not strengthening
your position by asserting nonsense as fact.
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 08:59:26 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Carleton Putnam (was: Here we go ‘gain)
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) writes:
> Alexander Baron
>>In article <[email protected]>
>> fi[email protected] “Laura Finsten” writes:
>>> But Herr Oberunterweiselenfuehrer, I did read your message. Your message
>>> says that this antisemitic businessman, Carleton Putnam, pulled together
>>> a bunch of shreds to create his racist diatribe.
>>
>>You dumb fuck. Where has there ever been a shred of evidence that Carlton
>>Putnam was an anti-Semite? You people make these things up as you go along.
>
> Your decorum is slipping, and your slipping is showing.
> My source for this statement is the following quotation:
>
> “…Race and Reason, written by a prominent businessman named Carleton
> Putnam. The book was an anti-integrationist tract that explicitly
> placed the blame for this subversive idea, and the equally subversive
> idea of egalitarianism, upon a conspiracy of communists and Jewish
> anthropologists.” Jonathon Marks, “Human Biodiversity: Genes, Race,
> and History”, p.57. Aldine de Gruyter Publ. 1995.
> ISBN 0-202-020339-0
>
> That is a shred of evidence.
No, that’s Johnathon Marks’ OPINION. And as a matter of fact, Carleton
Putnam DOES point out that Franz Boas, Ashley Montagu, Gene Weltfish and
Otto Klineberg, all egalitarians who promoted environmental influence
almost exclusively, WERE jewish. Are you suggesting that reporting FACTS
is somehow “anti-semitic”?
> The key words are “conspiracy” and “Jewish anthropologists”.
Mr. Putnam goes to considerable lengths to provide evidence to support his
contentions that there IS a conspiracy to pressure anyone who doesn’t toe
the environmental line.
> I interpret this as an indication of antisemitism.
BWAHAHAHA!!! You would.
> There is a very strong link between seeing Jewish conspiracies everywhere and
> antisemitism.
The point you’re missing, though, is that even if Mr. Putnam is an
“anti-semite”, how does that suddenly make Franz Boas not a jew, or excuse
Ashley Montagu of his forty-six citations by the House Committee on
Un-American Activities for his involvement with identified communist
groups? How does it suddenly make it not true that physical
anthropologists have been threatened with loss of their jobs or harrassment?
> Lest you now suggest that Marks is also a “dumb f***”, I have also
> gone straight to the horse’s mouth.
Oh, you read _Race and Reason_ for yourself?
> In Chapter 2, entitled The
> Hidden Issue, of “Race and Reason” (Carleton Putnam, Public Affairs
> Press, 1961), Putnam addresses the question of how what was then
> “modern anthropology” came to support (empirically, not politically)
> desegregation. I quote from his book:
Oh, apparently not.
Fester, what you have to realize is that all sorts of big quotes from
commies just aren’t gonna cut it. When Murray and Hernestein get dragged
over the coals for authoring a rather tame book like TBC, do you really
believe we’re gonna be impressed by more environmentalist back-slapping?
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 08:59:27 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Carleton Putnam (was: Here we go ‘gain)
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) acts really dumb by writing:
> In article
>>
>>No, that’s Johnathon Marks’ OPINION. And as a matter of fact, Carleton
>>Putnam DOES point out that Franz Boas, Ashley Montagu, Gene Weltfish and
>>Otto Klineberg, all egalitarians who promoted environmental influence
>>almost exclusively, WERE jewish. Are you suggesting that reporting FACTS
>>is somehow “anti-semitic”?
>
> If Putnam is basing his beliefs purely on scientific fact why did he
> feel the need to mention what religion the above happened to be born
> into?
Not even YOU, Keith, are stupid enough to believe that jews are ONLY a
religion. Get a grip.
> Obviously, he thought it meant something.
Well, since every “anthropologist” who promotes the environmental beliefs
is jewish, or was taught by a jewish “anthropologist” (ie, Margaret Mead),
then I guess it DOES mean something.
> So tell me, why did he list a bunch of people he disagreed with and then
> *specifically* mention that they were JOOOOOOS, hmmm?
Because he considered it significant.
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:05:32 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: LONG TERMS IN BEATING
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
> * HALIFAX (CP) – Six blacks have all been sentenced to long prison
> * terms for a “merciless and senseless attack” that left a white fraternity
> * brother brain-damaged.
> *
> * Justice Jamie Saunders of Nova Scotia Supreme Court said Friday
> * the attack, FRAUGHT WITH RACIAL OVERTONES, would “raise the bile in any
> * human”. It included stomps and kicks to the victim’s head.
> *
> * Four of the young men got eight years for kicking and beating
> * Darren Watts, a top student and charity volunteer who tried to save a girl
> * from an abuser. A fifth got seven years and the sixth got six.
> *
> * Four of the attackers received additiional two-year terms for
> * beating two other fraternity brothers in September 1994.
> *
> * **********
> *
> * [capitals not in original]
> *
> * From the _Ottawa Sunday Sun_, March 3 1995, page SIXTEEN.
> *
> * Les
>
> So, what’s your point, Les? Are you trying to say nasty things about
> blacks, provide eveidence that the justice system worked, or gloat that a
> “charity volunteer” (translation: liberal, do-gooder, academian type) got
> his head kicked in? Spit it out, cockroach-boy. We’re all waiting to see
> what lurks in your teeny mind.
Actually, Crazy, the “justice” system did NOT work. Although the story
mentioned that the attack was “fraught with racial overtones”, there
wasn’t even an ATTEMPT to charge them with a “hate-crime”, apparently.
Geez, someone more paranoid than I would think that this was just a SHOW,
meant to disarm the growing nativist resentment of the kid-glove treatment
of non-Whites.
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:05:33 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Joel Rosenberg and his child abuse
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FreshAgain ([email protected]) writes:
> Yeah, except all those dead Jews, unlike Matthews, weren’t armed robbers,
> counterfeiters, and murderers.
No, they were rat-fuck S.O.B.s who were intent on spreading their poison
to the Gentiles.
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:05:34 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: 3 cheers for the Arabs
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Kerri Liason ([email protected]) writes:
>>> The terroristic actions of Arabs recently have mede it very cleer
>>> the the Jewish people should stop building the wall to seperate the
>>> west bank, and in the interest of less violence disarm themselves.
>>> If they are allowed to keep and bare arms they are just more likely
>>> to have those arms taken from them by a terrorist, and used against
>>> them or their families. Can’t they all just get along?
>>
>>What you have to understand, Kerri, is that jews REALLY BELIEVE that they
>>are above any normal considerations. It’s quite all right for them to
>>engineer the flooding of Aryan countries with non-Whites, and then to
>>lobby to deny us the means to defend ourselves from the results of their
>>chicanery, but heaven forbid that their own “reasoning” should be used
>>against them!
>
> Herr Oberschweinengruppenfuehrer, are you suggesting that Israel should
> not have its own laws, but instead should be run according to US law?
U.S. law = Israeli (or, more accurately, jewish) law.
> (I realise that when you say “our” you rarely if ever mean “Canadian”,
> even though you post from here).
Right. I mean White.
> And what exactly do you mean by the
> ludicrous statement that “[J]ews REALLY BELIEVE that they are above
> any normal considerations”?
Quite obvious, I should think. Oh, I forgot, you’re a simpering retard.
Well, I was referring to the well-known fact that jews honestly believe
that they are a light unto the nations. In common parlance, they think
their shit doesn’t stink.
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:16:23 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: did you know?? [was foreskins snipped]
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Well, heck, it’s about time that one of you master race types admitted
> that the your best feature was snipped off and tossed away right after you
> came squalling into this world and, surprise, surprise surprise, you’ve
> managed to find a way to blame it on da Joos. I guess in the future we’ll
> be able to detect all of you proud Aryans by your “Hint o’ Smegma” aroma
> and your constant fiddling around with your underware to alleviate your
> ever-present “male itch”. Maybe the goose-stepping will help you guys out.
Nope, sorry, you’re wrong again. I mean, I can understand your confusion,
though; after all, you only have liberal males to go by, so it’s
reasonable (I guess) for you to assume that EVERYONE has the same sort of
hygiene that they do, ie none.
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:16:24 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Carleton Putnam (was: Here we go ‘gain)
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) writes:
> Alexander Baron
>>In article <[email protected]>
>> fi[email protected] “Laura Finsten” writes:
>>> But Herr Oberunterweiselenfuehrer, I did read your message. Your message
>>> says that this antisemitic businessman, Carleton Putnam, pulled together
>>> a bunch of shreds to create his racist diatribe.
>>
>>You dumb fuck. Where has there ever been a shred of evidence that Carlton
>>Putnam was an anti-Semite? You people make these things up as you go along.
>
> Your decorum is slipping, and your slipping is showing.
> My source for this statement is the following quotation:
>
> “…Race and Reason, written by a prominent businessman named Carleton
> Putnam. The book was an anti-integrationist tract that explicitly
> placed the blame for this subversive idea, and the equally subversive
> idea of egalitarianism, upon a conspiracy of communists and Jewish
> anthropologists.” Jonathon Marks, “Human Biodiversity: Genes, Race,
> and History”, p.57. Aldine de Gruyter Publ. 1995.
> ISBN 0-202-020339-0
>
> That is a shred of evidence.
No, that’s Johnathon Marks’ OPINION. And as a matter of fact, Carleton
Putnam DOES point out that Franz Boas, Ashley Montagu, Gene Weltfish and
Otto Klineberg, all egalitarians who promoted environmental influence
almost exclusively, WERE jewish. Are you suggesting that reporting FACTS
is somehow “anti-semitic”?
> The key words are “conspiracy” and “Jewish anthropologists”.
Mr. Putnam goes to considerable lengths to provide evidence to support his
contentions that there IS a conspiracy to pressure anyone who doesn’t toe
the environmental line.
> I interpret this as an indication of antisemitism.
BWAHAHAHA!!! You would.
> There is a very strong link between seeing Jewish conspiracies everywhere and
> antisemitism.
The point you’re missing, though, is that even if Mr. Putnam is an
“anti-semite”, how does that suddenly make Franz Boas not a jew, or excuse
Ashley Montagu of his forty-six citations by the House Committee on
Un-American Activities for his involvement with identified communist
groups? How does it suddenly make it not true that physical
anthropologists have been threatened with loss of their jobs or harrassment?
> Lest you now suggest that Marks is also a “dumb f***”, I have also
> gone straight to the horse’s mouth.
Oh, you read _Race and Reason_ for yourself?
> In Chapter 2, entitled The
> Hidden Issue, of “Race and Reason” (Carleton Putnam, Public Affairs
> Press, 1961), Putnam addresses the question of how what was then
> “modern anthropology” came to support (empirically, not politically)
> desegregation. I quote from his book:
Oh, apparently not.
Fester, what you have to realize is that all sorts of big quotes from
commies just aren’t gonna cut it. When Murray and Hernestein get dragged
over the coals for authoring a rather tame book like TBC, do you really
believe we’re gonna be impressed by more environmentalist back-slapping?
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:16:25 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Carleton Putnam (was: Here we go ‘gain)
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) acts really dumb by writing:
> In article
>>
>>No, that’s Johnathon Marks’ OPINION. And as a matter of fact, Carleton
>>Putnam DOES point out that Franz Boas, Ashley Montagu, Gene Weltfish and
>>Otto Klineberg, all egalitarians who promoted environmental influence
>>almost exclusively, WERE jewish. Are you suggesting that reporting FACTS
>>is somehow “anti-semitic”?
>
> If Putnam is basing his beliefs purely on scientific fact why did he
> feel the need to mention what religion the above happened to be born
> into?
Not even YOU, Keith, are stupid enough to believe that jews are ONLY a
religion. Get a grip.
> Obviously, he thought it meant something.
Well, since every “anthropologist” who promotes the environmental beliefs
is jewish, or was taught by a jewish “anthropologist” (ie, Margaret Mead),
then I guess it DOES mean something.
> So tell me, why did he list a bunch of people he disagreed with and then
> *specifically* mention that they were JOOOOOOS, hmmm?
Because he considered it significant.
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:16:26 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: LONG TERMS IN BEATING
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
> * HALIFAX (CP) – Six blacks have all been sentenced to long prison
> * terms for a “merciless and senseless attack” that left a white fraternity
> * brother brain-damaged.
> *
> * Justice Jamie Saunders of Nova Scotia Supreme Court said Friday
> * the attack, FRAUGHT WITH RACIAL OVERTONES, would “raise the bile in any
> * human”. It included stomps and kicks to the victim’s head.
> *
> * Four of the young men got eight years for kicking and beating
> * Darren Watts, a top student and charity volunteer who tried to save a girl
> * from an abuser. A fifth got seven years and the sixth got six.
> *
> * Four of the attackers received additiional two-year terms for
> * beating two other fraternity brothers in September 1994.
> *
> * **********
> *
> * [capitals not in original]
> *
> * From the _Ottawa Sunday Sun_, March 3 1995, page SIXTEEN.
> *
> * Les
>
> So, what’s your point, Les? Are you trying to say nasty things about
> blacks, provide eveidence that the justice system worked, or gloat that a
> “charity volunteer” (translation: liberal, do-gooder, academian type) got
> his head kicked in? Spit it out, cockroach-boy. We’re all waiting to see
> what lurks in your teeny mind.
Actually, Crazy, the “justice” system did NOT work. Although the story
mentioned that the attack was “fraught with racial overtones”, there
wasn’t even an ATTEMPT to charge them with a “hate-crime”, apparently.
Geez, someone more paranoid than I would think that this was just a SHOW,
meant to disarm the growing nativist resentment of the kid-glove treatment
of non-Whites.
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:51:32 PST 1996
Article: 40758 of bc.general
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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What nobody seems to be asking is, WHY do we NEED West Indian immigration
AT ALL? Do we even WANT it?
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:53:58 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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What nobody seems to be asking is, WHY do we NEED West Indian immigration
AT ALL? Do we even WANT it?
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 13:56:30 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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What nobody seems to be asking is, WHY do we NEED West Indian immigration
AT ALL? Do we even WANT it?
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 14:02:46 PST 1996
Article: 33899 of alt.activism
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Carleton Putnam (was: Here we go ‘gain)
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) writes:
> Alexander Baron
>>In article <[email protected]>
>> fi[email protected] “Laura Finsten” writes:
>>> But Herr Oberunterweiselenfuehrer, I did read your message. Your message
>>> says that this antisemitic businessman, Carleton Putnam, pulled together
>>> a bunch of shreds to create his racist diatribe.
>>
>>You dumb fuck. Where has there ever been a shred of evidence that Carlton
>>Putnam was an anti-Semite? You people make these things up as you go along.
>
> Your decorum is slipping, and your slipping is showing.
> My source for this statement is the following quotation:
>
> “…Race and Reason, written by a prominent businessman named Carleton
> Putnam. The book was an anti-integrationist tract that explicitly
> placed the blame for this subversive idea, and the equally subversive
> idea of egalitarianism, upon a conspiracy of communists and Jewish
> anthropologists.” Jonathon Marks, “Human Biodiversity: Genes, Race,
> and History”, p.57. Aldine de Gruyter Publ. 1995.
> ISBN 0-202-020339-0
>
> That is a shred of evidence.
No, that’s Johnathon Marks’ OPINION. And as a matter of fact, Carleton
Putnam DOES point out that Franz Boas, Ashley Montagu, Gene Weltfish and
Otto Klineberg, all egalitarians who promoted environmental influence
almost exclusively, WERE jewish. Are you suggesting that reporting FACTS
is somehow “anti-semitic”?
> The key words are “conspiracy” and “Jewish anthropologists”.
Mr. Putnam goes to considerable lengths to provide evidence to support his
contentions that there IS a conspiracy to pressure anyone who doesn’t toe
the environmental line.
> I interpret this as an indication of antisemitism.
BWAHAHAHA!!! You would.
> There is a very strong link between seeing Jewish conspiracies everywhere and
> antisemitism.
The point you’re missing, though, is that even if Mr. Putnam is an
“anti-semite”, how does that suddenly make Franz Boas not a jew, or excuse
Ashley Montagu of his forty-six citations by the House Committee on
Un-American Activities for his involvement with identified communist
groups? How does it suddenly make it not true that physical
anthropologists have been threatened with loss of their jobs or harrassment?
> Lest you now suggest that Marks is also a “dumb f***”, I have also
> gone straight to the horse’s mouth.
Oh, you read _Race and Reason_ for yourself?
> In Chapter 2, entitled The
> Hidden Issue, of “Race and Reason” (Carleton Putnam, Public Affairs
> Press, 1961), Putnam addresses the question of how what was then
> “modern anthropology” came to support (empirically, not politically)
> desegregation. I quote from his book:
Oh, apparently not.
Fester, what you have to realize is that all sorts of big quotes from
commies just aren’t gonna cut it. When Murray and Hernestein get dragged
over the coals for authoring a rather tame book like TBC, do you really
believe we’re gonna be impressed by more environmentalist back-slapping?
Les
From [email protected] Thu Mar 7 14:02:48 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Carleton Putnam (was: Here we go ‘gain)
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) acts really dumb by writing:
> In article
>>
>>No, that’s Johnathon Marks’ OPINION. And as a matter of fact, Carleton
>>Putnam DOES point out that Franz Boas, Ashley Montagu, Gene Weltfish and
>>Otto Klineberg, all egalitarians who promoted environmental influence
>>almost exclusively, WERE jewish. Are you suggesting that reporting FACTS
>>is somehow “anti-semitic”?
>
> If Putnam is basing his beliefs purely on scientific fact why did he
> feel the need to mention what religion the above happened to be born
> into?
Not even YOU, Keith, are stupid enough to believe that jews are ONLY a
religion. Get a grip.
> Obviously, he thought it meant something.
Well, since every “anthropologist” who promotes the environmental beliefs
is jewish, or was taught by a jewish “anthropologist” (ie, Margaret Mead),
then I guess it DOES mean something.
> So tell me, why did he list a bunch of people he disagreed with and then
> *specifically* mention that they were JOOOOOOS, hmmm?
Because he considered it significant.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 8 07:10:18 PST 1996
Article: 21320 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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Mark Zajac ([email protected]) writes:
>
> In article
> (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>What nobody seems to be asking is, WHY do we NEED West Indian immigration
>>AT ALL? Do we even WANT it?
>
> It’s not their brown skin that’s the problem here — it’s your brown SHIRT.
Well, then, you Kosher Konservative, why do you keep belly-aching about
the problems caused by immigration, but lack the balls to identify it as a
racial problem?
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 8 07:10:19 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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Mark Zajac ([email protected]) writes:
>
> Wendy Clements ([email protected]) wrote:
>> We don’t need Indian immigration. We don’t NEED anything. Maybe some
>> people don’t want it. I for one, don’t think that people should be able
>> to come in whenever they please. Immigration should be limited. People
>
>
> SIR, canada is not your country. it’s county of all. IT’s multicultural
> country, or it’s RED INDIAN”S.
> IT’s just that you guys came earlier than other immigrants. do not try to
> reperesent Canada as GERMAN NAZIS
Oh, please. If I hear another Kosher Kon-artist-servative come up with
the “Canada is a LAND of immigrants, who ALL built this great nation!”,
I’m gonna puke.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 8 07:28:50 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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Mark Zajac ([email protected]) writes:
>
> In article
> (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>What nobody seems to be asking is, WHY do we NEED West Indian immigration
>>AT ALL? Do we even WANT it?
>
> It’s not their brown skin that’s the problem here — it’s your brown SHIRT.
Well, then, you Kosher Konservative, why do you keep belly-aching about
the problems caused by immigration, but lack the balls to identify it as a
racial problem?
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 8 07:28:52 PST 1996
Article: 40851 of bc.general
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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Mark Zajac ([email protected]) writes:
>
> Wendy Clements ([email protected]) wrote:
>> We don’t need Indian immigration. We don’t NEED anything. Maybe some
>> people don’t want it. I for one, don’t think that people should be able
>> to come in whenever they please. Immigration should be limited. People
>
>
> SIR, canada is not your country. it’s county of all. IT’s multicultural
> country, or it’s RED INDIAN”S.
> IT’s just that you guys came earlier than other immigrants. do not try to
> reperesent Canada as GERMAN NAZIS
Oh, please. If I hear another Kosher Kon-artist-servative come up with
the “Canada is a LAND of immigrants, who ALL built this great nation!”,
I’m gonna puke.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 8 07:29:46 PST 1996
Article: 71771 of can.general
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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Mark Zajac ([email protected]) writes:
>
> In article
> (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>What nobody seems to be asking is, WHY do we NEED West Indian immigration
>>AT ALL? Do we even WANT it?
>
> It’s not their brown skin that’s the problem here — it’s your brown SHIRT.
Well, then, you Kosher Konservative, why do you keep belly-aching about
the problems caused by immigration, but lack the balls to identify it as a
racial problem?
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 8 07:29:47 PST 1996
Article: 71772 of can.general
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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Mark Zajac ([email protected]) writes:
>
> Wendy Clements ([email protected]) wrote:
>> We don’t need Indian immigration. We don’t NEED anything. Maybe some
>> people don’t want it. I for one, don’t think that people should be able
>> to come in whenever they please. Immigration should be limited. People
>
>
> SIR, canada is not your country. it’s county of all. IT’s multicultural
> country, or it’s RED INDIAN”S.
> IT’s just that you guys came earlier than other immigrants. do not try to
> reperesent Canada as GERMAN NAZIS
Oh, please. If I hear another Kosher Kon-artist-servative come up with
the “Canada is a LAND of immigrants, who ALL built this great nation!”,
I’m gonna puke.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 8 10:51:13 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: LONG TERMS IN BEATING
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
> [edit]
>
>>Although the story
>>mentioned that the attack was “fraught with racial overtones”, there
>>wasn’t even an ATTEMPT to charge them with a “hate-crime”, apparently.
>
> [edit]
>
> Herr Unterweinerschnitzellenfuehrer, what “hate-crime” would that be
> under *current* Canadian law?
Don’t be an ass. You know damn well that any White perpetrating an attack
against a non-White, regardless of circumstances, would be raked over the
coals of public scrutiny, and blared about in the media as having links to
this-and-that “neo-Nazi” group. I believe Section 318 of the Criminal
Code would be used, as everyone and his dog in the hypothetical White’s
past was interviewed to see if he had ever uttered the dreaded “Nigger” word.
>… thee are no “hate-crimes” legally recognised in Canada.
See above.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 8 10:53:06 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: LONG TERMS IN BEATING
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
> [edit]
>
>>Although the story
>>mentioned that the attack was “fraught with racial overtones”, there
>>wasn’t even an ATTEMPT to charge them with a “hate-crime”, apparently.
>
> [edit]
>
> Herr Unterweinerschnitzellenfuehrer, what “hate-crime” would that be
> under *current* Canadian law?
Don’t be an ass. You know damn well that any White perpetrating an attack
against a non-White, regardless of circumstances, would be raked over the
coals of public scrutiny, and blared about in the media as having links to
this-and-that “neo-Nazi” group. I believe Section 318 of the Criminal
Code would be used, as everyone and his dog in the hypothetical White’s
past was interviewed to see if he had ever uttered the dreaded “Nigger” word.
>… thee are no “hate-crimes” legally recognised in Canada.
See above.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 10 07:19:29 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: You’re welcome… NOT! (was: Thank you Les, for white civilization.)
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Steve Garza ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Les, think that every gallon of gasoline that I use in my car is a gallon
> of gasoline that some future white child won’t use to drive his car. Think
> that all the hamburgers I eat in a year provide one less cow that could
> have gone to feeding your white children. Too bad we stupid Mexicans,
> Asians, and Africans are no longer in the stone age buster. Too bad that
> every year we open up new factories in our developing nations and drive
> more cars. Too bad every year China consumes more coal, plastics, and
> metals that could have been used for white folk. To bad Mexico has nuclear
> power and is consuming uranium and producing toxic nuclear waste
> materials. Third world nations grow more like European first world nations
> every year.
Remember all that, Stevie Wonder, when some liberal starts carping about
how the United States uses more resources per capita, blah-blah-blah.
> You want the world white Les?
Not the whole world, but I DO want purely White societies. I don’t see why the
White race has to be saddled with dragging non-Whites out of their mire.
> You want the world as completely developed as the United States or Europe?
I never said that. I want every WHITE PERSON to have the advantages that
the WHITE RACE ALONE is able to come up with.
> Think how much faster the raw resources will be consumed and how much less
> those raw resources will end up in your own nation. Your needs come before
> my needs Les?
I didn’t say exactly that, but now that you mention it, yes.
> California has billions
> of barrels of oil and we Californians of all races and creeds will consume
> those gallons before ever your descendants do.
Glad you think so, Stevie Wonder. Tell me about Proposition 187, will
you? It’s just a start…
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 10 07:20:57 PST 1996
Article: 21438 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Starving ancestors (was: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO)
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David Reilley ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>>From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
>>Subject: Starving ancestors (was: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN
>>TORONTO)
>>Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:27:16 GMT
>
>>David Reilley ([email protected]) writes:
>>> [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>But the point I made, which you very deftly dodged, was
>>that WHITES BUILT CANADA (and the United States).
>
> Bullshit. For most of Canada’s 400 year history economic development was a
> partnership between white and red. The trade routes had been developed by
> Indians hundreds of years before Europeans arrived, and the Europeans would
> not have had a clue how to harvewst the natural resources, or stay alive lopng
> enough to do so, if the Indians had not worked with them.
You have the nerve to call what *I* say “bullshit”, and then come up with
this crap? Look, Davey, I never denied that the indians made it EASIER
for the Europeans, and that the Europeans found the advice of the indians
*useful*; what I’m saying is, that the input of the indians wasn’t ESSENTIAL.
> On the west coast where I live many races have worked together, and continue
> to work together, to build a strong economy and a strong society. The only
> way your view of Canada holds together is if you tell lies about the history
> and nature of this country.
“We are the world…”
Tell me, Davey, is there net immigration TO this country, or net
emigration FROM this country?
>>Rather than address
>>that, you brought up how the whites would have “strved” (sic) without the
>>Indians. Since when does saving someone from starvation equal building a
>>nation that everyone wants to come to?
>
> You are white and you are trying to destroy this country.
I don’t see the enforced “multiculturalism” as something to rejoice over.
You apparently do.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 10 07:20:58 PST 1996
Article: 21439 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: You’re welcome… NOT! (was: Thank you Les, for white civilization.)
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Steve Garza ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Les, think that every gallon of gasoline that I use in my car is a gallon
> of gasoline that some future white child won’t use to drive his car. Think
> that all the hamburgers I eat in a year provide one less cow that could
> have gone to feeding your white children. Too bad we stupid Mexicans,
> Asians, and Africans are no longer in the stone age buster. Too bad that
> every year we open up new factories in our developing nations and drive
> more cars. Too bad every year China consumes more coal, plastics, and
> metals that could have been used for white folk. To bad Mexico has nuclear
> power and is consuming uranium and producing toxic nuclear waste
> materials. Third world nations grow more like European first world nations
> every year.
Remember all that, Stevie Wonder, when some liberal starts carping about
how the United States uses more resources per capita, blah-blah-blah.
> You want the world white Les?
Not the whole world, but I DO want purely White societies. I don’t see why the
White race has to be saddled with dragging non-Whites out of their mire.
> You want the world as completely developed as the United States or Europe?
I never said that. I want every WHITE PERSON to have the advantages that
the WHITE RACE ALONE is able to come up with.
> Think how much faster the raw resources will be consumed and how much less
> those raw resources will end up in your own nation. Your needs come before
> my needs Les?
I didn’t say exactly that, but now that you mention it, yes.
> California has billions
> of barrels of oil and we Californians of all races and creeds will consume
> those gallons before ever your descendants do.
Glad you think so, Stevie Wonder. Tell me about Proposition 187, will
you? It’s just a start…
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 10 07:38:33 PST 1996
Article: 40945 of bc.general
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Starving ancestors (was: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO)
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David Reilley ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>>From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
>>Subject: Starving ancestors (was: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN
>>TORONTO)
>>Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:27:16 GMT
>
>>David Reilley ([email protected]) writes:
>>> [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>But the point I made, which you very deftly dodged, was
>>that WHITES BUILT CANADA (and the United States).
>
> Bullshit. For most of Canada’s 400 year history economic development was a
> partnership between white and red. The trade routes had been developed by
> Indians hundreds of years before Europeans arrived, and the Europeans would
> not have had a clue how to harvewst the natural resources, or stay alive lopng
> enough to do so, if the Indians had not worked with them.
You have the nerve to call what *I* say “bullshit”, and then come up with
this crap? Look, Davey, I never denied that the indians made it EASIER
for the Europeans, and that the Europeans found the advice of the indians
*useful*; what I’m saying is, that the input of the indians wasn’t ESSENTIAL.
> On the west coast where I live many races have worked together, and continue
> to work together, to build a strong economy and a strong society. The only
> way your view of Canada holds together is if you tell lies about the history
> and nature of this country.
“We are the world…”
Tell me, Davey, is there net immigration TO this country, or net
emigration FROM this country?
>>Rather than address
>>that, you brought up how the whites would have “strved” (sic) without the
>>Indians. Since when does saving someone from starvation equal building a
>>nation that everyone wants to come to?
>
> You are white and you are trying to destroy this country.
I don’t see the enforced “multiculturalism” as something to rejoice over.
You apparently do.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 10 07:39:54 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Starving ancestors (was: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO)
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David Reilley ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>>From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
>>Subject: Starving ancestors (was: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN
>>TORONTO)
>>Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:27:16 GMT
>
>>David Reilley ([email protected]) writes:
>>> [email protected] (Les Griswold) writes:
>
>>But the point I made, which you very deftly dodged, was
>>that WHITES BUILT CANADA (and the United States).
>
> Bullshit. For most of Canada’s 400 year history economic development was a
> partnership between white and red. The trade routes had been developed by
> Indians hundreds of years before Europeans arrived, and the Europeans would
> not have had a clue how to harvewst the natural resources, or stay alive lopng
> enough to do so, if the Indians had not worked with them.
You have the nerve to call what *I* say “bullshit”, and then come up with
this crap? Look, Davey, I never denied that the indians made it EASIER
for the Europeans, and that the Europeans found the advice of the indians
*useful*; what I’m saying is, that the input of the indians wasn’t ESSENTIAL.
> On the west coast where I live many races have worked together, and continue
> to work together, to build a strong economy and a strong society. The only
> way your view of Canada holds together is if you tell lies about the history
> and nature of this country.
“We are the world…”
Tell me, Davey, is there net immigration TO this country, or net
emigration FROM this country?
>>Rather than address
>>that, you brought up how the whites would have “strved” (sic) without the
>>Indians. Since when does saving someone from starvation equal building a
>>nation that everyone wants to come to?
>
> You are white and you are trying to destroy this country.
I don’t see the enforced “multiculturalism” as something to rejoice over.
You apparently do.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 10 11:00:14 PST 1996
Article: 21451 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ITS THOSE GODDAMN NIGGER EGYPTIANS AGAIN !!!
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THE MIGHTY KUSHITE ([email protected]) writes:
> It is to these people that we owe so much of our fundamental elements of
> civilization . It is these people who , (if they lived in the states
> during the 1950s) would have to ride the back of the bus . And it is these
> Africans who , (while people in Europe were living in caves using
> aurignacian industry and wearing ox-skins for clothing) were ruling and
> living in a greatly advanced African civilization . From Meroe to kush ,
> Nubia to Egypt ; the Africans were accomplishing monumental works while
> the superior Aryans were huddled in thier caves speaking mumbo jumbo
> , lacking modern speach technique , (cacumminal sound) that was later
> introduced to them by the inferior negro .
Oh, gimme a break. IF niggers were so prolific at creating civilizations,
WHY are they such retards, civilizationally speaking, today?
> THE HIGHTY KUSH
Don’t you mean “haughty”?
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 10 18:26:33 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Marx was a jew (NOT!)
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Monica9000 ([email protected]) writes:
> The devil made you do it?
>
> At least Jews take RESPONSIBILITY for their evil actions. They don’t take
> the easy way out and blame it on other beings.
Puh-LEEZ! Jews get all huffy when Marx’ jewishness is even mentioned.
They don’t want to admit that he was one of theirs. They’d rather claim
people like Freud the Fraud and Bombfather (aka Einstein).
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 10 19:56:55 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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evil “Foot-boy” Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
(snip)
>> You should be glad that my ancestors came here. It was WHITES, and Whites
>> ALONE, who built Canada.
>
> No it wasn’t. What about the chinese?
What about them?
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 11 06:35:50 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Unbelievable Stupidity of Racists
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([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> bolding curtis p
>>[email protected] (Glen Tate) writes:
(snip)
>>>But a black man is never a racists he is just Proud of his race! Right?
>>
> Wrong. A racist is a racist, whether he/she is black or white. If he
> thinks one race is better (superior) to another, he is a racist. So, if
> you’re black, and you think the whites are inferior, you’re a racist, and
> the term ‘nazi’ IMO applies to anyone who thinks their race is superior
> and promotes the abuse and degradation of innocent people.
This is the sort of sloppy “thinking” that leads foolish liberals to make
silly claims like that there can be non-White “Natsees”.
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 11 07:09:20 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: HORRIFIC stinking attitude of ignorant nazis
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Monica9000 ([email protected]) writes:
> It’s interesting the way you say that 14% of all humans commit 70% of all
> violent crimes. It’s been estimated that 15% of all Americans have
> Attention Deficit Hyperactivity disorder: an inherited chemical imbalance
> in the brain as well as different sizes of some parts of the
> brain(compared with people without ADHD) affecting behavior. Symptoms
> being lifelong: impulsivity, distractiblity, hyperactivity, just to name a
> few.
It hasn’t been “estimated” that 14% of the population commits 70% of the
crime, Monica. It’s a _fact_. The two are NOT synonymous.
> These people that you call barely human are sick. When you are sick and
> don’t get treatment, this is what happens.
>
> Treat the sick or live with the consequences.
Sure. But whenever ANY proposed treatment differs with liberal ideology,
then you lefties come screaming rather incoherently about “rights”,
forgetting that society has a right to be protected from the “sick”.
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 11 07:09:21 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: JAMAICAN IMMIGRANT SHOOTS THREE PEOPLE IN TORONTO
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evil “Foot-boy” Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
(snip)
>> You should be glad that my ancestors came here. It was WHITES, and Whites
>> ALONE, who built Canada.
>
> No it wasn’t. What about the chinese?
What about them?
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 11 10:16:45 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ITS THOSE GODDAMN NIGGER EGYPTIANS AGAIN !!!
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Soren Groth ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>
>>THE MIGHTY KUSHITE ([email protected]) writes:
>>> It is to these people that we owe so much of our fundamental elements of
>>> civilization . It is these people who , (if they lived in the states
>>> during the 1950s) would have to ride the back of the bus . And it is these
>>> Africans who , (while people in Europe were living in caves using
>>> aurignacian industry and wearing ox-skins for clothing) were ruling and
>>> living in a greatly advanced African civilization . From Meroe to kush ,
>>> Nubia to Egypt ; the Africans were accomplishing monumental works while
>>> the superior Aryans were huddled in thier caves speaking mumbo jumbo
>>> , lacking modern speach technique , (cacumminal sound) that was later
>>> introduced to them by the inferior negro .
>
>>Oh, gimme a break. IF niggers were so prolific at creating civilizations,
>>WHY are they such retards, civilizationally speaking, today?
>
> But they’re not, the fact is you don’t know anything about the situation in
> Africa
BWAHAHAHA!!! Are you ACTUALLY trying to tell me, with a straight face,
that ANY of the negro-run nations in Africa are a paradise of civility and
prosperity? Shit, even South Africa is a fucking hell-hole, now that the
niggers are in charge, with an exploding murder rate.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 12 08:08:24 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Unbelievable Stupidity of Racists
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Stephen Samuel ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>
>> ([email protected]) writes:
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>
>> >>>But a black man is never a racists he is just Proud of his race! Right?
>
>> > Wrong. A racist is a racist, whether he/she is black or white. If he
>> > thinks one race is better (superior) to another, he is a racist. So, if
>> > you’re black, and you think the whites are inferior, you’re a racist, and
>> > the term ‘nazi’ IMO applies to anyone who thinks their race is superior
>> > and promotes the abuse and degradation of innocent people.
>>
>> This is the sort of sloppy “thinking” that leads foolish liberals to make
>> silly claims like that there can be non-White “Natsees”.
>
> Take a look at what happened in Rwanda: a designed murder of hundreds
> of thousands of people and an attempted genocide.
Did I ever deny that there was a slaughter/attempted genocide in Rwanda?
What the HELL does that have to do with sloppy misapplication of
terminology by liberals?
> Whites may be better at genocide, but that doesn’t mean that there is
> any sort of monopoly.
Well, you’re HALF right.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 12 08:08:25 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Unbelievable Stupidity of Racists
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R.C. Richards ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>> ([email protected]) writes:
>>> Wrong. A racist is a racist, whether he/she is black or white. If he
>>> thinks one race is better (superior) to another, he is a racist. So, if
>>> you’re black, and you think the whites are inferior, you’re a racist, and
>>> the term ‘nazi’ IMO applies to anyone who thinks their race is superior
>>> and promotes the abuse and degradation of innocent people.
>
>>This is the sort of sloppy “thinking” that leads foolish liberals to make
>>silly claims like that there can be non-White “Natsees”.
>
> the writer of some textbook for a freshman logic course should come in
> here and collect the arguments of twitt and fester and use them as
> examples of faulty logic.
Hell, they could publish an entire SERIES, a la Encyclopaedia Brittanica,
if they used the examples here.
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 13 07:31:17 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Marx WAS SO a jew, and a self-hating one, at that (was: Marx was a jew (NOT!)
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Fragano Ledgister ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> : Puh-LEEZ! Jews get all huffy when Marx’ jewishness is even mentioned.
> : They don’t want to admit that he was one of theirs. They’d rather claim
> : people like Freud the Fraud and Bombfather (aka Einstein).
>
> In what way is Freud a fraud? In your explanation, please indicate
> how you have determined the fraudulence of Freudian theory.
>
> What did Einstein receive the Nobel Prize for?
But… but… how “religious” were they? Were they Orthodox jews,
attending church (oops!), I mean, synagogue, “religiously”? Since judaism
is “only a religion”, shouldn’t great guys like Freud and Einstein be
prime examples of what _religious_ jews can accomplish?
> Who wrote ‘practice is conceived and fixed only in its dirty-Jewish
> form of appearance’ and what does that mean?
Who wrote it: someone who knew jews better than he’d like, obviously.
What does it mean: I haven’t the foggiest, since jews write (and talk)
just to read/hear themselves.
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 13 07:56:54 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Immigration Invasion
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evil “Doot-boy” Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
> Hermit wrote:
Some liberal wienie:
>> > Because they’re (ie, non-White immigrants) mostly highly talented,
>> > hard-working people who enrich our society materially and spiritually. As
>> > someone who lives in New York City, I ought to know. I’d like to see a
>> > lot more of them.
>>
>> This is an example of the kind of “enlightened thinking that will destroy
>> this country. This is an example of why other nations laugh openly at us.
>> New York City, no wonder!
>
> What is wrong with NYC?!
The Big Bagel? Why, nothing, of course! 🙂
> And believe me, as a foreigner, I can tell you that people do not laugh at
> America because of New Yorkers and people who like diversity – they laugh at
> isolationist inbred hicks who are afraid of everything different from them!
Yeah, but you’re a self-admitted miscegenating freak, so who cares what
you say?
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 13 08:00:08 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Attention RED CHINAMEN at American Universities
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Milton Kleim ([email protected]) writes:
> All Chinamen and other Asians attending American schools gloating about
> possible attacks on American military forces, be warned.
>
> If you gloat about the deaths of American servicemen and destruction of
> American cities, while you enjoy American freedom and American education:
> go back to Asia now, or be dealt with later if we go to war.
>
> The fact that several pro-red China gook troublemakers can come to North
> America and use their American university accounts to overtly advocate
> subversive ideas (including murder of American sailors) in favor of
> Beijing against America illustrates clearly why we should NEVER allow them
> to come to America and Canada.
Milton is essentially correct. While all you patriots-for-profit are
strutting around with your breasts puffed out, nattering on about “freedom
of speech”, remember: THIS “freedom of speech” advocates killing American
sailors. Even if you don’t agree with racial solidarity, *HOW* can you
justify that, under any circumstances?
Les
From [email protected] Wed Mar 13 08:00:10 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: The Steve Garza show (was: The Fragano Ledgister show)
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Steve Garza ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Les, I’ve heard a lot of bullshit on this newsgroup and most of it comes
> from people like you. People like you claim to be of a higher morality
> than others, but your words here as elsewhere demonstrate your complete
> disregard for the welfare of others.
No, not true. I am not in complete disregard for others. I just happen
to disbelieve in the hollow-cause, and not to buy, hook line and sinker,
the standard party line about how jews, oy vey, are such nice little guys.
> We should all damn well care what happened to the Jews because it can
> happen to any other group if we allow it. They are an example to the rest
> of us of the abuses that one group can commit on another.
Oh, for the love of…
> You guys can believe all the damn paranoid Jewish conspiracies you want.
> But consider this: Even if such things were real, and the world economy
> and money supply were unfairly controlled by Jews, how can that be more
> evil than the systematic destruction of entire populations and horrible
> medical experimentation with human subjects as the Nazis did during WWII?
Because the Nazis and the Germans were MY kith and kin, my people, while
the jews are not.
> Your worst fantasies of the Jewish world order hardly even compare in
> magnitude to the evil reality of the Nazis during the 30’s and 40’s.
Oh, boo-hoo-hoo. Well, why don’t you tell us, Stevie Wonder, what was so
“evil” about the Nazis during the 30s and 40s? And do try not to wax
lachymarose about the “holocaust”, would you? Or, if you can’t help
yourself, try to include OTHER things that the National Socialists did.
They WERE in power from 1933 to 1945, ya know.
> But you Les, are as hopeless and set in your ways as a religious fanatic.
So why do you bother sticking your nose where it’s not wanted?
> …I can demonstrate that there are blacks more artistic, more mathematically
> talented, more creative, etc, etc, but it won’t matter. You believe they are
> inferior because of the color of their skin.
Nope. I don’t think that the hue of their complexion is the cause of
their inferiority AT ALL. More liberal misunderstanding.
> You believe they are more prone to violence or sexual depravity because of
> the color of their skin. You believe they can’t create or sustain or advance
> beyond current societies.
Facts speak for themselves on those, Stevie Wonder.
> The world is going to continue to advance,
Funny how you liberal slime think that ALL change is equivalent to
POSITIVE change.
> and beneficial genetic changes will occur in non-white people randomly just
> as they do in whites.
Hooray for them. Point is, Wonder Bread, that I see no point in hanging
the millstone of non-White incompetence around the neck of the White race
waiting for their “beneficial genetic changes” to occur.
> By isolating your population, your group will never know those changes.
Yak, yak, yak.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 15 07:07:02 PST 1996
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THE MIGHTY KUSHITE ([email protected]) writes:
White people ignore your posts because you’re an ignoramus filled with
yourself, or you’re trolling.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 15 07:07:02 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: I FANTASIZE (WHEN EXTREMELY LONLY) ABOUT SAUCER-LIPPED, BIG-BUTTED AFRICAN WOMEN .
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THE MIGHTY KUSHITE ([email protected]) writes:
> There is nothing more beatiful than African women . From thier smooth and
> silky brown skin , long braided hair , and perfectly proportioned anatamy
>
> Ill take them over El McFeirson , Cindy croford , Heather lockleer , Kate
> moss any day . I dont know , white women just dont appeal to me .
Hooray for us. That’s one less knuckle-dragging, slope-headed _H.
erectus_ that we have to worry about.
Les
From [email protected] Sat Mar 16 08:48:13 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Marx was a jew (NOT!)
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Matt Giwer ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) wrote:
>>In article
>>(Les Griswold) wrote:
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>>> Jews, like art, are difficult to define, “but I know one when I see one”.
>>> However, I will assume that you are serious, and not just another baiter
>>> like Weltner.
>>>
>>> There are few PHYSICAL differences. That’s the biggest stumbling block we
>>> have. If jews were all green, it’d be pretty easy to pick them out.
>>> However, it is the psychological differences that really mark them. For
>>> one, there is the insane drive to promote filth and underhandedness, and
>>> denigrate anything that would appeal to the Aryan sense of honour. For
>>> another, there is the morbid fascination with “remembering” past
>>> injustices, and inflicting the blame on an ever wider circle of “culprits”.
>>Les takes yet another dive head-first into the gutter… probably in
>>pursuit of his sense of “Aryan honor.”
> Jewish honor, Aryan honor, both are idiot racial fantasies.
Ah. My mistake. I thought you were a White who was proud of his
heritage. Mea culpa.
Les
From [email protected] Sat Mar 16 09:10:25 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: If Niggers don’t like it here…Get Out!
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Fragano Ledgister ([email protected]) writes:
(snip – about repatriation)
> Perhaps this should be coordinated with white people leaving the
> Americas to go back to Europe.
BWAHAHAHA!!! If Whites left North America, within twenty years, it would
be an unlivable pig-sty, and the indians know it full well. As for a
black state, Farrakhan knows damn well that a black-run state would be an
unmitigated disaster. It’s just political capital for him.
Les
From [email protected] Sat Mar 16 09:13:43 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The Steve Garza show (was: The Fragano Ledgister show)
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Herr Oberweinenundschnivellenfuehrer, this just reminded me of something.
> Some weeks ago, you alleged that Canada’s Jews were fomenting national
> disunity by playing both sides of the Quebec separatiste debate off
> against each other. I asked you to provide names of organisations, or
> even of prominent individuals, Jewish, who support the pro-separatiste
> position in Quebec. You know, like some support for your allegation?
> Have you come up with any of that yet, Herr Unterflaxenundearwaxenfuehrer?
This is just like the liberal “argument” about ZOG: “since you can’t name
the groups involved, there must BE no ZOG!” Never mind that the entire
idea behind a conspiracy is its SECRECY. Truly, arguing with a liberal is
like trying to grab a handful of the wind.
Les
From [email protected] Sat Mar 16 09:13:44 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ITS THOSE GODDAMN NIGGER EGYPTIANS AGAIN !!!
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Harold Herndon ([email protected]) writes:
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> That is total and utter bullshit. If you look at the mask of king Tut
> he is clealrly black! The mask has all the features of an African black
> man.
Ah. So King Tut now equals all of Egypt, eh?
> You must have never seen the sculptures of Egypt. Just take a look
> at the lips on those sculptures and you will see that they were black.
Slaves, m’boy, slaves. The Egyptians DID make carvings/paintings of their
slaves. They probably couldn’t conceive of future idiots like yourself
abusing their simple statements of FACT.
> Tell me the name of the a statue in egypt of a european Pharoah. I have
> an encyclopedia that proves your bullshit wrong.
Ourobouros has NEVER claimed that there was a EUROPEAN Pharoah. Get a
clue (re-read your sentence, and see if you can figure out what’s wrong
with that). He said, and more and more people concur, that Egyptians were
CAUCASOID.
> I ask you this if tribal blacks are so primative and aren’t civil, then
> why is the murder rate among white Americans so much greater than most
> tibes in Africa?
The murder rate is NOT higher among White Americans than it is among
“tibes” in Africa. The high murder rate is due to the NEGROES in the
U.S.A., who are driven to militancy by jerks like you, who inflame their
animalistic passions with stories about how they’ve been “exploited”, and
how much the White man “owes” them.
(snip)
> I bet you didn’t know that ancient Israel and lot of Europe were built
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> by blacks too.
That ought to go over well with the Orthodox!
> When the Moor conqured much of Europe they gave their architectual expertese
> to Europe. If you don’t believe the Moors were black read the pay “Othello”
> by William Shakespear.
No-one has ever denied that the Moors were black, idiot. They HAVE
disputed the far-out claims of shit-disturbers such as yourself, who are
trying to portray negroes as something they aren’t (ie,
civilization-builders).
Les
From [email protected] Sat Mar 16 09:13:45 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: CRAZY NAZIS KILLING DRUG DEALERS?
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Harold Herndon ([email protected]) writes:
> Did anyone hear a report about the dumbass Nazis who killed some dope
> dealers? I heard it on the radio. It appears some Neo-Nazi is going
> around stopping at corners where drug dealers are and when they approach
> the cars they shoot the drug dealers. I guess you crazy ass Nazis have
> nothing better to do than spew racist remarks and try to kill
> unsuspecting people. You are fucking carzy!
Has anyone caught the alleged drug-dealer killer? Then how do they know
he really is a “neo-Nazi”?
Y’know, it’s shit like this that makes me think that law-enforcement types
are _agents provocateur_, PRETENDING to be racists, doing stuff to
discredit us (although I wonder how much pretending they really have to
do, with events like The Good Ole Boys Roundup).
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 17 11:51:25 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: “Fuck off and die.” LeBouthillier’s best?
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Ken McOyVay OBC ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Arthur LeBouthillier
>
>> FreshAgain,
>
>>> Answer the question: was there a Holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>> perpetrated by the Nazis during WWII?
>
>>Fuck off and die.
>
> In other words, Mr. LeBouthillier would rather not answer the question.
Or, perhaps he realizes the futility of debating such a thing with a jew,
especially one like FreshAgain.
> Nor, one must suspect, would he be comfortable discussing the death of the
> other 6 million non-Jewish victims of “Aryan” racism.
Watch it, Kenny! That’s FIVE milliion non-jews. As a good little
_shabbas goy_, you should know that the jews ALWAYS get top billing in the
hollow-cause story. Keep this up, and they’ll have to revoke your OBC.
Les
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From [email protected] Sun Mar 17 11:51:27 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ‘Whiteness’ and poverty
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Eugene Holman ([email protected]) writes:
> I’ve just returned from Riga, the capital of Latvia.
>
> Riga is a beautiful city, and I wish its inhabitants all the best.
>
> Nevertheless, the city has a visible group of blond-haired, blue-eyed
> people who are begging in the streets. There being virtually no blacks or
> Hispanics in Riga, it is ‘Aryan’ types (usually with Russian, Ukrainina,,
> or Belarussian as their native language), who form the underclass.
>
> I’m bringing this to the attention of these groupe so that people can
> think about it and draw the necedssary conclusions.
Which are what, exactly? I think it significant that you point out that
there are no visible minorities in Riga. What your “facts” demonstrate,
is that the White race has plenty enough of its OWN problems, without
saddling itself with trying to assimilate large numbers of unassimilable
aliens – negroes, jews, asiatics, etc.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 17 11:57:49 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: ITS THAT GODDAMN GOOF CAESAR AGAIN!!!
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>> Oh, bullshit. Negrophile historians will rant, rave, throw out a few
>> racial epithets, and come out with some tremendous crap like “‘Gyptians
>> was BLACK, man!”
>
> You white racists just sprout crap like :
>
> “Niggers suck!!!!!!!!Yea, big time!!!!!!!”
The difference being, niggers DO suck, big time. So we’re telling the
truth, and negrophiles are lying through their watermelon-and-chitlin
stained teeth.
> That’s while you’re not trying out your latest “fashionable” white hood.
The KKK: the ORIGINAL boys in the hood.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 17 11:57:51 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: OUROBOROUS HAS BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN TO WASTE TIME WITH
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AN UPPITY NIGGER LIKE ME, BUT I’M LONELY
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THE MIGHTY KUSHITE ([email protected]) writes:
>>[email protected] (Ourobouros) wrote:
>>>In article <[email protected]>, THE MIGHTY KUSHITE
>>
>>I see, as usual we are overwhelmed with the burden of proof once more of
>>the Ancient Negro Egyptians.
>>
>>With the information given above, I must be compelled to finally believe
>>that the ancient Egyptians were Negro. Nevermind the fact that one of the
>>early Pharoahs made a proclamation to kill any Negro in Egyptian lands,
>
> You are a lier . Give me the text/tablet that says :”negro” . And will
> you please define Negro for me .
And you can’t spell worth a damn. But, what can we expect from the sort
of person who contributed “rap” to the English language?
I hardly think that Ourobouros’ defintion of “negro” is what you’re after.
SESOSTRIS was the one who proclaimed that negroes in Egypt were to be put
to death. It is HIS definition of negro that made the difference.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 17 11:57:52 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ITS THOSE GODDAMN STUPID GUILTY WHITE LIBERALS AGAIN!!!
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Sorehead Groth ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>>Sorehead Groth ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
>>> Well, I for one is as white as it can come, blueeyed, too – I’m fully aware
>>> that you’re not interested in any serious discussion, which your answer
>>> below fully demonstrates
>
>>You’re right. I’m not interested in “serious discussion” with asshole
>>wing-nuts like you. You losers come in here and fly your banners about
>>how great non-Whites are, how stinky Whites are, and you expect us to
>>react with intellectual detachment? Fuck you.
>
> No, that is obvious. I didn’t expect that either. It’s just funny to see how
> you can praise ignorance as supremacy.
You’ve got guts to make such asinine statements, I’ll give you that.
The “ignorance” that you find so “funny” comes from the negrophiles, who
will twist facts, create facts, supress facts, in their twisted drive to
puff up the negro by claiming that he had tuns n’ tuns of super-duper
accomplishments BEFORE (whenever). Usually, the “whenever” is the coming
of the White man, so we are treated to reams of “references” to
“historians” with an obvious agenda.
> By the way, I’ve never talked about “stinky whites” or “how great non-whites”
> are, as I said I give a shit about race. The colour of a person doesn’t mean
> anything to me, I’m not afraid of people with another look than me,
Maybe, maybe not, but you have an unreasoning hatred of anything White.
> I’m not afraid blacks might have bigger cocks, or whatever ideas you might
> have.
Caricature, Groth. Find me a REAL White Nationalist who gives a tinker’s
damn about negro genitalia. Horses have bigger ones than either negroes
or Whites — so what?
> No I don’t expect you to react with intellectual detachment.
Then don’t bitch and complain.
> Persons who get their picture of the world from cartoons and cheap movies,
> where africans are a bunch of savage cannibals, can’t react or make sense.
Know what? Those cheap movies and cartoons were largely RIGHT.
> You don’t know what you are talking about – I do. I have been there.
Albert Schweitzer was also in Africa. In fact, he dedicated his life to
helping the negroes. He had a very realistic picture of their limitations,
not buying this crap about how they’d blossom if just “given a chance”.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 17 11:57:52 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ‘Whiteness’ and poverty
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Eugene Holman ([email protected]) writes:
> I’ve just returned from Riga, the capital of Latvia.
>
> Riga is a beautiful city, and I wish its inhabitants all the best.
>
> Nevertheless, the city has a visible group of blond-haired, blue-eyed
> people who are begging in the streets. There being virtually no blacks or
> Hispanics in Riga, it is ‘Aryan’ types (usually with Russian, Ukrainina,,
> or Belarussian as their native language), who form the underclass.
>
> I’m bringing this to the attention of these groupe so that people can
> think about it and draw the necedssary conclusions.
Which are what, exactly? I think it significant that you point out that
there are no visible minorities in Riga. What your “facts” demonstrate,
is that the White race has plenty enough of its OWN problems, without
saddling itself with trying to assimilate large numbers of unassimilable
aliens – negroes, jews, asiatics, etc.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 17 11:57:53 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ITS THOSE GODDAMN STUPID GUILTY WHITE LIBERALS AGAIN!!!
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Sorehead Groth ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
S.G.:
>>> By the way, I’ve never talked about “stinky whites” or “how great
>>> non-whites” are, as I said I give a shit about race. The colour of a
>>> person doesn’t mean anything to me, I’m not afraid of people with another
>>> look than me,
Moi:
>>Maybe, maybe not, but you have an unreasoning hatred of anything White.
S.G.:
> That’s bullshit, man. I have told you that I’m white, and I sure don’t hate
> myself.
Yeah, you were suspiciously fast to reassure me and everyone here that you’re
some sort of “super-Aryan”, blond-haired and blue-eyed, the whole nine yards.
What’s the matter? Afraid of being mistaken for a jew or a negro?
> In fact I’m not a hater. I don’t hate the glorious past of my ancestors, the
> great vikings either. I’m proud of that, as of many other white
> accomplishments, as I say I don’t give a shit about the colour. So I can be
> proud of my “race” without the need to diminish other “races” right to be
> proud, too.
I am proud of my race with no reference whatsoever to jew, negroes,
asiatics, hispanics, etc. I only react with hostility when an obvious
idiot (or worse, a traitor) comes along and starts spouting bullshit and
lies about the great achievments of non-Whites, and using “murder, rape
and exploitation” to describe the glorious past of the White race.
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 18 07:45:38 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ITS ANOTHER LIBERAL ASSHOLE WHO CAN’T READ AGAIN!!!
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David Christian ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Soren Groth) wrote:
S.G.:
>>>>>And all African nations were selfsuficient before the intervention of
>>>>>Europeans .
Moi:
>>>Point is, chum, this ain’t the 14th century no more. Get a new calendar
>>>while you get a clue.
> Good Googlie mogglie! lesthe putz admits Africa was on an even
> technical plane with Europe? Will wonders never cease!
Uh, re-read what I wrote, chum. WHERE did I admit anything about Africa?
I simply reminded Sorehead of the REALITY of present-day living. I
suppose to a raging idiot like you, my statement would seem like an
admission, but it wasn’t. In any event, African technology is on par with
14th century European technology TODAY.
Les
From [email protected] Mon Mar 18 07:45:40 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: ITS THOSE GODDAMN STUPID GUILTY WHITE LIBERALS AGAIN!!!
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Sorehead Groth ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>>Sorehead Groth ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
S.G., like a true liberal, lies like a rug when cornered:
>>> That’s bullshit, man. I have told you that I’m white, and I sure don’t hate
>>> myself.
Moi:
>>Yeah, you were suspiciously fast to reassure me and everyone here that you’re
>>some sort of “super-Aryan”, blond-haired and blue-eyed, the whole nine yards.
>>What’s the matter? Afraid of being mistaken for a jew or a negro?
> I don’t care if I was green for that sake.
Sure, Sorehead, sure. Then why were you so quick to assure us that you
weren’t a vizmin, but some sort of “super-Aryan”?
>>> In fact I’m not a hater. I don’t hate the glorious past of my ancestors, the
>>> great vikings either. I’m proud of that, as of many other white
>>> accomplishments, as I say I don’t give a shit about the colour. So I can be
>>> proud of my “race” without the need to diminish other “races” right to be
>>> proud, too.
>
>>I am proud of my race with no reference whatsoever to jew, negroes,
>>asiatics, hispanics, etc. I only react with hostility when an obvious
>>idiot (or worse, a traitor) comes along and starts spouting bullshit and
>>lies about the great achievments of non-Whites, and using “murder, rape
>>and exploitation” to describe the glorious past of the White race.
> It was not the past of the “race”, my ancestors didn’t murder, rape or
> exploited, they were peasants in Denmark. But SOME danes was slave traders.
> The historical facts have nothing to do with race.
Bullshit. When you look at past accomplishments, the negro race
accomplished NOTHING, and I don’t appreciate liars coming in here and
trying to tell us that they DID.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 19 06:03:26 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Evolution (was: Looking like an ape.)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>> The ability to BUILD a civilization, rather than tear one down, for starters.
>
> Like the ancient Chinese and Indians?
Two things wrong with your “argument”, Caesar:
1) Ancient Chinese and Indians are NOT negroes. We ARE talking about
NEGROES here, NOT anyone else.
2) Where are China and India today? Does the term “Third World” ring a bell?
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 19 06:04:58 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>> The ability to BUILD a civilization, rather than tear one down, for starters.
>
> Like the ancient Chinese and Indians?
Two things wrong with your “argument”, Caesar:
1) Ancient Chinese and Indians are NOT negroes. We ARE talking about
NEGROES here, NOT anyone else.
2) Where are China and India today? Does the term “Third World” ring a bell?
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 19 06:04:59 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Burning churches (was: Are these the “Proud” Aryan warriors?)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>> evil “Foot-boy” Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
>> > I saw an article about the burning of black churches in America that once
>> > again have become commonplace. From 1986 to 1994 only about one church
>> > burning a year could be linked to white supremacists – in 1995 this figure
>> > was up to one per month!
>>
>> Church burnings linked to “white supremacists”, eh? Has it ever occurred
>> to you that all it takes to be reported in the news as “linked to white
>> supremacists” is a cop to mutter, “Hmm, looks like the work of white
>> supremacists!”
>>
>> Pretty cheesy, Beaver. Still, we don’t expect anything better from the
>> likes of you.
>
> I find the increased church burnings that racist scum are carrying out
> far easier to beleive than crackpot theories like a “World Zionist
> Conspiracy”.
What you, with your limited intellect, “believe” doesn’t change the facts,
Caesar. If/when the arsonists are apprehended, it will be pretty interesting
to see how the media loses it interest in the “white suprmacist” angle
when it is discovered that they are: a) not Whites at all, b) _agents
provocateur_, or c) not White Supremacists.
Les
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>>
>> Which are what, exactly? I think it significant that you point out that
>> there are no visible minorities in Riga. What your “facts” demonstrate,
>> is that the White race has plenty enough of its OWN problems, without
>> saddling itself with trying to assimilate large numbers of unassimilable
>> aliens – negroes, jews, asiatics, etc.
>
> It proves that unfortunate people from all races can fall into
> poverty.
Very good, Caesar. Now, would you mind explaining WHERE I have ever
denied that Whites have their own problems? Since when does that mean
that we have to take care of EVERYONE’S problems?
Les
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Steve Garza ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
>> It’s funny how a lot of P.C. types (hello, liberals!) will maintain that
>> HOMOSEXUALITY is genetic in origin, but will absolutely PALE at the mere
>> MENTION of genetics playing a role in negro criminality.
>
> And what if this gene is like baldness which both whites and blacks share?
If so, it’s obviously expressed in the negro much more often.
> Would you call this aggresive, anti-social gene the “Nigger Gene?” And
> would people like YOU Les, be called whiggers? (White Niggers?)
Nope. I’ve never behaved like a nigger, shiftless and lazy, and inclined
to criminality.
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Marx was a jew (NOT!)
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FreshAgain ([email protected]) writes:
> That Hitler had a Jewish grandparent is a myth perpetrated by the radical
> wing of the early Nazi party that wished to oust him. His father was
> illegitimate for a time, but was legitimized in his 40’s. Hitler was
> wholly Austrian.
>
> As for Newton, that’s news. I don’t necessarily doubt it, but I don’t see
> any evidence.
Neither you nor Enrique need any evidence. You’re slandering Whites, so
no evidence is needed. Besides, you’re a jew, and we all know that what a
jew says, goes.
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: The bravery of neo-nazis (was: Miltie’s Resignation)
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John Baglow ([email protected]), whiny union shit, writes:
> Loser Les Griswold ([email protected]) snivels:
>
>> John, go ‘way. You’re a useless twat. Or tell us some more about the
>> intrinsic rightness of unions and mass-demonstrations, which allow
>> cowardly shits like you to hide your pansy asses.
>
> We all know how brave you Aryan warriors are. Firebombing immigrant
> hostels
Uh, that was PROVEN to be an immigrant. Lebanese or Turk. Muslim, in any
event.
> and Black churches under cover of darkness;
What proof?
Actually, John, I stuck up for you. Someone told me that you weren’t fit
to suck a pig’s ass, but I said you were.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 18:59:55 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Question # 1
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FreshAgain ([email protected]) writes:
> Arthur,
>
> I’ve done a bit of tracing of my family tree–primarily the Jewish side.
>
> It seems my great-great-grandfather, Henry Lauber, a Jew, was born in New
> York City in 1850.
>
> Unless your family goes back in the USA further than that, I think I
> deserve to be here more than you.
No, you don’t. You’re an alien, a guest. At best, you should only be
permitted here temporarily.
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: SINISTER ORDER OF FENRIR: SINISTER NORSE FASCIST OCCULTISM
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Jim Bowery ([email protected]) writes:
> LeVay is of Jewish ancestry. Little surprise that his followers would queer
> Norse traditions without a second thought — just like Hitler did —
> quarter-breed Jew that he was.
Asshole.
Let me explain it one more time: if Hitler WAS 1/4 jew, and the
hollow-cause is indeed immutable fact, then that’s a GOOD argument AGAINST
integration, since a mixed-breed was responsible for the genocide of the
jews, oy vey, etc. etc…
I can’t understand why anyone would seriously argue this line. But,
cowardice is always hard to understand…
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Marx was a jew (NOT!)
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FreshAgain ([email protected]) writes:
> That Hitler had a Jewish grandparent is a myth perpetrated by the radical
> wing of the early Nazi party that wished to oust him. His father was
> illegitimate for a time, but was legitimized in his 40’s. Hitler was
> wholly Austrian.
>
> As for Newton, that’s news. I don’t necessarily doubt it, but I don’t see
> any evidence.
Neither you nor Enrique need any evidence. You’re slandering Whites, so
no evidence is needed. Besides, you’re a jew, and we all know that what a
jew says, goes.
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: White empowerment is not racist
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James Burns ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, Dr Hyde
(snip)
>>We don’t have a NAAWP… so maybe we should get one…
>
> You must have forgotten about the republican party.
BWAHAHAHA!!! The Republican Party? Pro-White? BWAHAHAHA!!!
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: The bravery of neo-nazis (was: Miltie’s Resignation)
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John Baglow ([email protected]), whiny union shit, writes:
> Loser Les Griswold ([email protected]) snivels:
>
>> John, go ‘way. You’re a useless twat. Or tell us some more about the
>> intrinsic rightness of unions and mass-demonstrations, which allow
>> cowardly shits like you to hide your pansy asses.
>
> We all know how brave you Aryan warriors are. Firebombing immigrant
> hostels
Uh, that was PROVEN to be an immigrant. Lebanese or Turk. Muslim, in any
event.
> and Black churches under cover of darkness;
What proof?
Actually, John, I stuck up for you. Someone told me that you weren’t fit
to suck a pig’s ass, but I said you were.
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: ‘Whiteness’ and poverty
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>>
>> Which are what, exactly? I think it significant that you point out that
>> there are no visible minorities in Riga. What your “facts” demonstrate,
>> is that the White race has plenty enough of its OWN problems, without
>> saddling itself with trying to assimilate large numbers of unassimilable
>> aliens – negroes, jews, asiatics, etc.
>
> It proves that unfortunate people from all races can fall into
> poverty.
Very good, Caesar. Now, would you mind explaining WHERE I have ever
denied that Whites have their own problems? Since when does that mean
that we have to take care of EVERYONE’S problems?
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: FESTER THINKS THAT HER SHIT DOESN’T STINK. EITHER THAT, OR SHE REALLY BELIEVES WHAT SHE’S SPEWING, AND THAT GETTING HER BUM-BUDDIES TO REFER TO HER AS “DOCTOR” WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) drools:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Herr Unterpimpfenundfartenfuehrer, what I was attempting to do was to
> demonstrate that (1) in this debate, whether Putnam is right or wrong
> has never been part of the debate,
You can say THAT again. The “debate”, such as it is, consists of nothing
more than you scatter-brain liberal slime trying to smear Mr. Putnam’s
good name with the “anti-semite” label. Isn’t working, though, and that’s
driving you to distraction.
(snip)
>>> Are you confirming that Ourobouros’ “font”
>>> of anthropological “knowledge” comes from Putnam’s Race and Reason? He
>>> never cited this source,
>
>>Fester, you’d get pissed off if someone said that the sun rose in the east
>>if they didn’t cite a source. Get off it. One doesn’t have to cite a
>>source for the blatantly obvious.
>
> You are absolutely right that some things are blatantly obvious.
Such as negro incompetence. Really, Fester, it’s all around us. NO-ONE
denies that negroes are incapable, not even liberals. They frantically
try to cover up any attempts to find out WHY negroes are so backward, but
even libs know it’s true.
(snip)
>>Since when does older science equal wrong?
>
> I have not said that older science is categorically wrong. However it
> is obvious that newer science is superior to older science in many areas.
“Many” does not equal “all”, Fester. “Newer” science is also a lot more
concerned with social acceptability than older science.
> This is why most people no longer believe that the earth is flat, that
> the solar system revolves around earth, that sperm contain tiny perfectly
> formed humans, or that bleeding is the best cure for a fever. Why do you
> have so much trouble accepting the idea that recent work in human
> genetics and variation doesn’t also fall into the realm of new, better
> science?
Nice one, Fester. Putting “new” and “better” side by side like that, as
if they mean the same thing. Your sentence would be more accurate,
however, if you said “new, more socially conscious, science.”
(snip)
>>Whether you like it or not, FACTS are neither moral nor
>>immoral. They just are. Morality only dictates what we DO with the
>>facts, but morality doesn’t change the FACT that negroes are hopelessly
>>primitive.
>
> Cite the scientific facts that support this “moral” conclusion, Herr
> Oberschickenmakenfuehrer.
I just told you, shit-for-brains, negro incompetence is a FACT. Morality
has nothing to do with it. What we do about it IS dictated by morality,
but negro ability (or lack of same) is totally divorced from morality.
Noting that the sun rises in the east is likewise a FACT, having
absolutely NOTHING to do with morality.
(snip)
>>You know, Fester, for several reasons, I’m beginning to suspect that
>>you’re either Jeannie Kowalewski, or taking lessons from her.
>
> You’re a riot. Do you really not believe that there could be more than
> one or two people here who disagree with you, that there is just one
> who keeps changing their id and sig to make it look like more?
No, I just find it hard to believe that more than one person could be so
inane. But, don’t make the mistake of assuming that I CARE, or anything.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:09 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
Subject: Only in Israel…
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>From the _Ottawa Sun_, March 18 1996
LAWSUIT ALL WET
TEL AVIV (AP) – Are TV weather reports legally binding? One sniffling
Israeli says yes.
A woman in Haifa is suing Channel 2 TV and its popular weatherman
Danny Rup in small claims court for almost $1,400 after he predicted sun
for a day that turned out stormy, the _Maariv_ daily newspaper said.
The woman says the forecast caused her to leave hom lightly
dressed. As a result, she caught the flu, missed four days’ work, spent
$52 on medication, and suffered stress.
In addition to financial cmpensation, the woman wants Rup to
apologize, it said. It did not identify the woman.
**********
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Genetics…
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It’s funny how a lot of P.C. types (hello, liberals!) will maintain that
HOMOSEXUALITY is genetic in origin, but will absolutely PALE at the mere
MENTION of genetics playing a role in negro criminality.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:10 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Jews as Traitors
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] “Vespasius” writes:
>
>> You Westerners need to understand that all Jews are potential traitors.
>> You see, the Jew’s religion allows him no country except Israel (and he
>> stole that). He feels no allegiance to any country, government or society
>> except his own.
>
> You could say white Americans “stole” the US.
Yes, you could. You’d be wrong, though.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:11 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Burning churches (was: Are these the “Proud” Aryan warriors?)
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Jeremy A. Litt ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
> : Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
>
> : > I find the increased church burnings that racist scum are carrying out
> : > far easier to beleive than crackpot theories like a “World Zionist
> : > Conspiracy”.
>
> : What you, with your limited intellect, “believe” doesn’t change the facts,
> : Caesar. If/when the arsonists are apprehended, it will be pretty interesting
> : to see how the media loses it interest in the “white suprmacist” angle
> : when it is discovered that they are: a) not Whites at all, b) _agents
> : provocateur_, or c) not White Supremacists.
>
> KAnd once again, Les proves his point, using his magical pyschic powers!
> Or do you just know the arsonists personally, Les?
Nope. And neither do you. So MY speculation is just as non-determinative
of the arsonist(s)’s race and beliefs as is yours, Caesars’s, or Beaver’s.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:12 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Genetics…
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Steve Garza ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
>> It’s funny how a lot of P.C. types (hello, liberals!) will maintain that
>> HOMOSEXUALITY is genetic in origin, but will absolutely PALE at the mere
>> MENTION of genetics playing a role in negro criminality.
>
> And what if this gene is like baldness which both whites and blacks share?
If so, it’s obviously expressed in the negro much more often.
> Would you call this aggresive, anti-social gene the “Nigger Gene?” And
> would people like YOU Les, be called whiggers? (White Niggers?)
Nope. I’ve never behaved like a nigger, shiftless and lazy, and inclined
to criminality.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:12 PST 1996
Article: 23009 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: SINISTER ORDER OF FENRIR: SINISTER NORSE FASCIST OCCULTISM
Date: 25 Mar 1996 10:26:54 GMT
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Jim Bowery ([email protected]) writes:
> LeVay is of Jewish ancestry. Little surprise that his followers would queer
> Norse traditions without a second thought — just like Hitler did —
> quarter-breed Jew that he was.
Asshole.
Let me explain it one more time: if Hitler WAS 1/4 jew, and the
hollow-cause is indeed immutable fact, then that’s a GOOD argument AGAINST
integration, since a mixed-breed was responsible for the genocide of the
jews, oy vey, etc. etc…
I can’t understand why anyone would seriously argue this line. But,
cowardice is always hard to understand…
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:13 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Burning churches (was: Are these the “Proud” Aryan warriors?)
Date: 23 Mar 1996 00:37:46 GMT
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Patrick Groff ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
> (Caesar’s and Rosenberg’s note snipped)
>>Nope. And neither do you. So MY speculation is just as non-determinative
>>of the arsonist(s)’s race and beliefs as is yours, Caesars’s, or Beaver’s.
>
> Ah, but les, look at his from an objective point of view, a few
> conclusions can be drawen.
>
> 1. Only black churches have been burned.
>
> 2. Many identifiable hate groups, that are all white, hate blacks.
>
> 3. Many identifiable hate groups, that are all white expouse this type
> of violence.
>
> 3. Many identifiable hate goups, that are all white, have burned black
> churches in the past.
Really? Could you be so kind as to name these “many identifiable hate
groups?” Could you tell me the names of those convicted? That’d be
really interesting.
(BTW, that should be #4, chum)
> 4. Therefore it is within the realm of possibility that an identifiable hate
> group, that is all white, did infact set fire to black churches.
And it is also entirely within the realm of possibility that hate groups,
that are NON-White, did it. The Nation of Islam, for example, doesn’t
think too highly of integrationists, White OR black. The ADL may need a
little hype to pass their next round of “hate crimes” laws. Or it could
be any of a number of other groups. Hell, for all you know, it could have
been the NAACP trying to get some sympathy.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:14 PST 1996
Article: 23014 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Jews as war heroes (was: Jews as Traitors)
Date: 23 Mar 1996 00:45:24 GMT
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Patrick Groff ([email protected]) writes:
> :
>>> In article <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected] “Vespasius” writes:
>>>
>>>> You Westerners need to understand that all Jews are potential traitors.
>>>> You see, the Jew’s religion allows him no country except Israel (and he
>>>> stole that). He feels no allegiance to any country, government or society
>>>> except his own.
>
> Really, then how about a little proof.
>
> 1. How many Jews fought in WWII, in the American Army..
Yes, why don’t you tell us, Mr. Groff? You may be surprised at your own
answer.
> 2. How many Jews received Medals as a consequence of action against
> the enemy while serving in the American Army.
Yes, how many, Mr. Groff? In any event, what do you define as “action
against the enemy?” Dropping firebombs on wounded soldiers, women and
children?
> 3. lastly prove that Jews “feel no allegiance to this country.”
The proof is all around us. You’re so blind, though, that you wouldn’t
smell jewish shit if it was right in front of your nose. However…
Just one example (although I get the distinct impression that I’m wasting
my time with this bozo): Bernard Baruch was in charge of the U.S.’ military
production in WWII, even before they got directly involved in hostilities.
MILLIONS of rounds of ammunition, including but not limited to, artillery
projectiles, which were supplied to the British, were defective. An
investigation into the allegations of the British government was kiboshed
just a few weeks after it was started. No-one, it seems, wanted to
suggest that a JEW had been profiting off the war that was being fought
for the sole benefit of the jews.
> 4. failing the above, why not ooze back into the pond, and reevolve as
> something better.
Ah, I thought so. A lib who argues from emotional conviction (is there
any other kind?) and who, despite all his high-sounding requests for
“facts”, isn’t the least interested in them. Piss off, faggot.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:15 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Marx was a jew (NOT!)
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FreshAgain ([email protected]) writes:
> That Hitler had a Jewish grandparent is a myth perpetrated by the radical
> wing of the early Nazi party that wished to oust him. His father was
> illegitimate for a time, but was legitimized in his 40’s. Hitler was
> wholly Austrian.
>
> As for Newton, that’s news. I don’t necessarily doubt it, but I don’t see
> any evidence.
Neither you nor Enrique need any evidence. You’re slandering Whites, so
no evidence is needed. Besides, you’re a jew, and we all know that what a
jew says, goes.
Les
From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 19:08:16 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: FESTER THINKS THAT HER SHIT DOESN’T STINK. EITHER THAT, OR SHE REALLY BELIEVES WHAT SHE’S SPEWING, AND THAT GETTING HER BUM-BUDDIES TO REFER TO HER AS “DOCTOR” WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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Laura Finsten ([email protected]) whines:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten ([email protected]) drools:
>
> Herr Oberweinenfuehrer, are you in the habit of falsifying
> people’s e-mail addresses?
That wasn’t falsifying, and neither is what I’ve done above. But, trust
an arrogant, smug, self-important crybaby like you to focus in on that.
It was lib bait, Fester, and you took it.
(snip)
> Now let’s see. How did Putnam’s name come up in this thread? As I
> recall, I said that I thought it possible that Putnam was Ourobouros’
> major source of information about racial differences and so-called
> “black” inferiority. Having read Putnam a couple of weeks ago,
> I realised that some of the ludicrous things that Ourobouros was
> presenting as verified and accepted scientific doctrine about
> cranial and brain morphology were pretty much verbatim the things
> that Putnam says.
As I recall, Putnam said that craniometry was neither proven to be valid,
nor proven to be INvalid. It seems that science has indeed progressed a
little since 1961, but you liberal turds have failed to keep up with the
times.
> However, since Ourobouros has never acknowledged
> that this is his source, I see no reason to debate along those lines.
Translation: I’m getting my ass whipped big-time in the Putnam debate, so
I’d just as soon drop it.
(snip)
> … I have also made a pretty strong case that Putnam is an antisemite,
Whatever. But you’ve failed UTTERLY to prove that Putnam’s putative
“anti-semitism” has ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with his writing. This
seems to escape you, which is perhaps the most annoying thing about
debating you. Gosh sakes, Fester, if you really ARE a doctor, they’re
handing out Ph.D.’s like fucking candy.
> You don’t see anything wrong with being an antisemite.
You mean, there is?
> Why should you be troubled by any suggestion that Putnam was an antisemite?
I’m not troubled by “any suggestion that Putnam was an antisemite”. I AM
a little annoyed at your constant brandishing of this totally irrelevant
fact about his personal beliefs to “prove” something about him.
(snip)
> What I see here is a lot of small-minded, hate-filled racist losers
> who want to blame their every shortcoming on someone else.
… but even more hilarious is the liberal assholes who think that they
can “put the Natsees in their place” by coming in here, and whining to the
heavens.
>>> I have not said that older science is categorically wrong. However it
>>> is obvious that newer science is superior to older science in many areas.
>
>>”Many” does not equal “all”, Fester. “Newer” science is also a lot more
>>concerned with social acceptability than older science.
>
> Oh, you mean like “The Bell Curve”? Yeah, that was really concerned with
> “social acceptability”.
And _TBC_ was just SO daring, wasn’t it? A book that tells us what we
know anyway, with a disclaimer that the authors weren’t trying to
prove/disprove ANYTHING, just presenting some facts. Get over it.
> I would argue that in fact “social acceptability” was the major concern
> driving much of 19th century “racial science”.
Yes, well, having seen your performances here, I wouldn’t be surprised at
ANYTHING that you’d argue.
(snip)
> And using that good old Herr Griswoldian debating technique: assertion
> without evidence. You’ve sure changed my mind.
Two mistaken assumptions on your part:
1) That I CARE what a loser like you thinks;
2) That you have a mind worth changing.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 16:54:43 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Les does so know what a liberal is!(was: The idiocy of liberals)
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evil “Foot-boy” Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>>
>> Dan Bennett wrote:
>>
>> Moi:
>>> > Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
>>>
>>> We’ve already been over that. Semites are caucasians, i.e., white.
>>> Try to keep up, OK?
>>
>> Keep up with liberal lies and deceptions? I do already.
>>
> It is funny to see how you go on about “liberals” and how bad they are! You
> don’t even know what the term liberal means!! Have you ever read any
> political philosophy? People like the founding fathers of the U.S.,
> F.A. Hayek, John Locke – all part of the liberal tradition.
And they would all puke if they saw what sort of people (and I use the
term very lightly) used the designation “liberal” today. Name me _one_
liberal from times past who SUPPORTED multiracialism, Beaver. Aside from
J.J. Rouseau, who ADMITTED to needing his fantasies, I don’t think you’ll
be able to.
> Now there is a difference between classical and contemporary, or progressive,
> liberalism of course…
No shit, Sherlock. Classical liberalism, also known as True Liberalism,
has NOTHING to do with the putrid, cowardly filth that is bandied forth
today as “liberal” causes. Like I said, classical liberals would puke if
they saw “progressive” liberals.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 16:54:44 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>> John Baglow ([email protected]), whiny union shit, writes:
(snip)
>> > We all know how brave you Aryan warriors are. Firebombing immigrant
>> > hostels
>>
>> Uh, that was PROVEN to be an immigrant. Lebanese or Turk. Muslim, in any
>> event.
>
> That makes them non-white, does it?
Yes. Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
> The Bosnian and Albanian Muslims look fairly white to me.
Oh, well, who am I to argue with T.V.?
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:00:12 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Les does so know what a liberal is!(was: The idiocy of liberals)
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evil “Foot-boy” Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>>
>> Dan Bennett wrote:
>>
>> Moi:
>> >> Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
>> >
>> > We’ve already been over that. Semites are caucasians, i.e., white.
>> > Try to keep up, OK?
>>
>> Keep up with liberal lies and deceptions? I do already.
>
> It is funny to see how you go on about “liberals” and how bad they are! You
> don’t even know what the term liberal means!! Have you ever read any
> political philosophy? People like the founding fathers of the U.S.,
> F.A. Hayek, John Locke – all part of the liberal tradition.
And they would all puke if they saw what sort of people (and I use the
term very lightly) used the designation “liberal” today. Name me _one_
liberal from times past who SUPPORTED multiracialism, Beaver. Aside from
J.J. Rouseau, who ADMITTED to needing his fantasies, I don’t think you’ll
be able to.
> Now there is a difference between classical and contemporary, or progressive,
> liberalism of course…
No shit, Sherlock. Classical liberalism, also known as True Liberalism,
has NOTHING to do with the putrid, cowardly filth that is bandied forth
today as “liberal” causes. Like I said, classical liberals would puke if
they saw “progressive” liberals.
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>> John Baglow ([email protected]), whiny union shit, writes:
(snip)
>> > We all know how brave you Aryan warriors are. Firebombing immigrant
>> > hostels
>>
>> Uh, that was PROVEN to be an immigrant. Lebanese or Turk. Muslim, in any
>> event.
>
> That makes them non-white, does it?
Yes. Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
> The Bosnian and Albanian Muslims look fairly white to me.
Oh, well, who am I to argue with T.V.?
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:07:46 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Jews as war heroes (was: Jews as Traitors)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>
>> suggest that a JEW had been profiting off the war that was being fought
>> for the sole benefit of the jews.
>
> How was WWII fought for the sole benefit of Jews.
Does the state of Israel mean anything to you?
National Socialist Germany had many laws against jews. NO-ONE else was
adversely affected by those laws. Something else that may interest you is
that Hitler did not base his currency on a gold-standard, or Germany’s
economic recovery on getting into massive debt to International
Financiers. Instead, he based the Reich’s currency on the PRODUCTIVITY OF
THE GERMAN PEOPLE.
> The French, Czechs, Yugoslavs etc who were occupied by the Nazis regained
> their freedom from fascism as a result of the war.
… and the Ukranians saw the invading _Wermacht_ as liberators from
communism. Does that mean they were?
> from Caesar
> [email protected]
> Anti-fascist
“Anti-intelligent” would be more like it.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:07:47 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Burning churches (was: Are these the “Proud” Aryan warriors?)
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Patrick Groff ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
> (whole lotta snipping)
>>I wasn’t asking for the names of all pro-White “hate” groups, I was asking
>>for the names of those CONVICTED of burning nigger churches. Your reply
>>implies that pro-White groups = church burners. That is incorrect, not to
>>mention slanderous.
> It would seem that you are seriously impaired, no, I didn’t imply that
> “pro-white groups = church burners.” What I said was that the
> probablity of a Hate group, that has an all white membership, is the
> probable culprit
Very good, Patty. You’re starting to understand that “PROBABLE culprit” is
not the same thing as “DEFINITELY the culprit”.
(snip)
>>Not really. Since, somewhow, you just KNOW that negro churches were burned
>>by White Supremacists.
> Some how I don’t,but again un-evolved pond ooze, the probability is
> great with some all white hate group then your claim, which is most
> assinine, that the NAACP did it.
Tawana Brawley. Sabrina Collins. Lynn Griffiths. You’re relying on past
events to draw conclusions about this one; so am I.
(snip)
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:07:47 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Jews as Traitors
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes: >
>> Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
>> > You could say white Americans “stole” the US. (in response to suggesting
>> > that the Israelis stole Palestine)
>> Yes, you could. You’d be wrong, though.
>
> If Jews have “stolen” Israel, then haven’t whites “stolen” America?
No.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:07:48 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Burning churches (was: Are these the “Proud” Aryan warriors?)
Date: 27 Mar 1996 09:54:04 GMT
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pgroff ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Excuse me, un-evolved pond ooze, but the subject was the burning of
> Black Southern Churches, and I said that the probability was high that
> infact some all white haters group probably did the deed.
> Now un-evolved pond ooze, you brought into the picture the above
> mentioned people (ie, Tawana Brawley, Sabrina Collins, Lynn Griffiths), who
> didn’t burn any southern black churches, nor belong to any identifiable
> group that does,
No, but they DO belong to an identifiable group that has been known to
LIE to further its agenda. What I’m saying, and what seems to escape you,
is that it’s not unknown for negroes to LIE about racial discrimination.
It’s also not unheard-of for jews to do likewise, but they’re usually much
more crafty about it. Laurie Recht, a jewish legal secretary, complained
to the FBI in 1984 that she was being harrassed by “neo-Nazis” and
racists, but investigation found that she DID IT HERSELF, including VIDEO
EVIDENCE of Ms. Recht painting swastikas on her OWN APARTMENT DOOR. The
point is, anal sphincter, that the burning-churches bit MAY be a new twist
on an old game.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:07:49 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Les does so know what a liberal is!(was: The idiocy of liberals)
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evil “Foot-boy” Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>>
>> Dan Bennett wrote:
>>
>> Moi:
>> >> Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
>> >
>> > We’ve already been over that. Semites are caucasians, i.e., white.
>> > Try to keep up, OK?
>>
>> Keep up with liberal lies and deceptions? I do already.
>
> It is funny to see how you go on about “liberals” and how bad they are! You
> don’t even know what the term liberal means!! Have you ever read any
> political philosophy? People like the founding fathers of the U.S.,
> F.A. Hayek, John Locke – all part of the liberal tradition.
And they would all puke if they saw what sort of people (and I use the
term very lightly) used the designation “liberal” today. Name me _one_
liberal from times past who SUPPORTED multiracialism, Beaver. Aside from
J.J. Rouseau, who ADMITTED to needing his fantasies, I don’t think you’ll
be able to.
> Now there is a difference between classical and contemporary, or progressive,
> liberalism of course…
No shit, Sherlock. Classical liberalism, also known as True Liberalism,
has NOTHING to do with the putrid, cowardly filth that is bandied forth
today as “liberal” causes. Like I said, classical liberals would puke if
they saw “progressive” liberals.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:07:50 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Burning churches (was: Are these the “Proud” Aryan warriors?)
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Patrick Groff ([email protected]) writes:
(snip – about negro churches being “burned”)
>>Tawana Brawley. Sabrina Collins. Lynn Griffiths. You’re relying on past
>>events to draw conclusions about this one; so am I.
> Gasp!! the above burned black churches in the South.
No, arsehole, the above made allegations that they had been subjected to
racial discrimination. Tawana Brawley and Lynn Griffiths claimed to have
been raped; Brawley over a period of several days. Brawley ALSO named
those who supposedly kidnapped and raped her. All three were found out to
be reporting other than facts, or, as it’s known in legalese, LYING.
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:07:50 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>> John Baglow ([email protected]), whiny union shit, writes:
(snip)
>> > We all know how brave you Aryan warriors are. Firebombing immigrant
>> > hostels
>>
>> Uh, that was PROVEN to be an immigrant. Lebanese or Turk. Muslim, in any
>> event.
>
> That makes them non-white, does it?
Yes. Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
> The Bosnian and Albanian Muslims look fairly white to me.
Oh, well, who am I to argue with T.V.?
Les
From [email protected] Fri Mar 29 17:07:51 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Jews as war heroes (was: Jews as Traitors)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>> Yes, how many, Mr. Groff? In any event, what do you define as “action
>> against the enemy?” Dropping firebombs on wounded soldiers, women and
>> children?
>
> Loads of Christian whites did that.
Yes, while the jews sat back and giggled, jews like “Prof.” Frank
Lindemann, who originated the idea of terror-bombing, and got
Winne-the-Pooh Churchill to instigate it.
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Cthulhu ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>
>>Yes. Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
>
> A lot of semites look pretty white to me.
Funny. You just got over telling me that some doofus “proved” to me that
Turks aren’t semites, now you’re agreeing that they ARE?
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Cthulhu ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
(snip)
>>> and [burning] Black churches under cover of darkness;
>>
>>What proof?
>
> If you’re really so stupid that you don’t know *this*, then you are truly sad.
Translation: we’d like to BELIEVE that White Supremacists do the above,
even though we can’t supply convincing evidence (or ANY evidence) about
it. So I’ll call Les stupid and sad.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 31 10:09:29 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Cthulhu ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
>>> In article <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>>>
>>>> IF our ancestors all came out of Africa, WHY are negroes still negroes?
>>>> Why didn’t THEY evolve?
>>>
>>> You have light skin pigmentation because your ancestors moved to the
>>> colder parts of the world (Europe) and they no longer had a need for
>>> melanin.
>>
>>Re-read what I wrote, Pizza-dude. I asked why negroes hadn’t EVOLVED, not
>>why they have black skin. Black skin is just ONE feature of negroes, and
>>it is NOT the one that is determinative of negro backwardness. But, I
>>suppose it’s all that your puny mind can contain.
>
> If our ancestors come out of Africa and didn’t evolve, you idiot, then we’d
> *all* be Black. He told you that evolution *did* happen.
Indeed. So why are niggers still so backward?
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Okay, liberals, get your thinking caps on!
IF our ancestors all came out of Africa, WHY are negroes still negroes?
Why didn’t THEY evolve?
Les
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Stewart “Chicken a la” King ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> : Re-read what I wrote, Pizza-dude. I asked why negroes hadn’t EVOLVED, not
> : why they have black skin.
>
> Well, define “evolved a lot.” They’ve “evolved” as much as they need to,
> since they’ve “lived” in the same place, while the “Europeans” moved up
> north where they developed “pale,” somewhat clammy skin which was giving
> me such trouble with my “complexion” before I discovered “moisturizers”
> and “soap.” You, “les,” need to explain why fucked-up government
> necessarily means that these “people” are less “evolved” or if it just
> means they still think “socialism” is kind of “cool.”
>
> : Black skin is just ONE feature of negroes, and
> : it is NOT the one that is determinative of negro backwardness. But, I
> : suppose it’s all that your puny mind can contain.
>
> If all you ever see are backwards negroes maybe you need to stop walking
> around on your nose.
>
> No, I don’t know what that means. But I still think it makes more sense
> than ending every post with “We Are The World.”
“We are the world…”
Really, Stewie, you’re one of the worst offenders in that regard. You’re
so out to lunch, and you think that the survival of the White Race is just
a game for your sophistry, that you should be eternally grateful that
anyone even bothers to talk to you at all.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 31 10:14:46 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Cthulhu ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
>>> In article <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>>>
>>>> IF our ancestors all came out of Africa, WHY are negroes still negroes?
>>>> Why didn’t THEY evolve?
>>>
>>> You have light skin pigmentation because your ancestors moved to the
>>> colder parts of the world (Europe) and they no longer had a need for
>>> melanin.
>>
>>Re-read what I wrote, Pizza-dude. I asked why negroes hadn’t EVOLVED, not
>>why they have black skin. Black skin is just ONE feature of negroes, and
>>it is NOT the one that is determinative of negro backwardness. But, I
>>suppose it’s all that your puny mind can contain.
>
> If our ancestors come out of Africa and didn’t evolve, you idiot, then we’d
> *all* be Black. He told you that evolution *did* happen.
Indeed. So why are niggers still so backward?
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 31 10:14:47 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Stewart “Chicken a la” King ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> : Re-read what I wrote, Pizza-dude. I asked why negroes hadn’t EVOLVED, not
> : why they have black skin.
>
> Well, define “evolved a lot.” They’ve “evolved” as much as they need to,
> since they’ve “lived” in the same place, while the “Europeans” moved up
> north where they developed “pale,” somewhat clammy skin which was giving
> me such trouble with my “complexion” before I discovered “moisturizers”
> and “soap.” You, “les,” need to explain why fucked-up government
> necessarily means that these “people” are less “evolved” or if it just
> means they still think “socialism” is kind of “cool.”
>
> : Black skin is just ONE feature of negroes, and
> : it is NOT the one that is determinative of negro backwardness. But, I
> : suppose it’s all that your puny mind can contain.
>
> If all you ever see are backwards negroes maybe you need to stop walking
> around on your nose.
>
> No, I don’t know what that means. But I still think it makes more sense
> than ending every post with “We Are The World.”
“We are the world…”
Really, Stewie, you’re one of the worst offenders in that regard. You’re
so out to lunch, and you think that the survival of the White Race is just
a game for your sophistry, that you should be eternally grateful that
anyone even bothers to talk to you at all.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 31 10:14:47 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Burning churches (was: Are these the “Proud” Aryan warriors?)
Date: 28 Mar 1996 01:56:02 GMT
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>>
>> Patrick Groff ([email protected]) writes:
>>
>> (snip – about negro churches being “burned”)
>>
>> >>Tawana Brawley. Sabrina Collins. Lynn Griffiths. You’re relying on past
>> >>events to draw conclusions about this one; so am I.
>>
>> > Gasp!! the above burned black churches in the South.
>>
>> No, arsehole, the above made allegations that they had been subjected to
>> racial discrimination. Tawana Brawley and Lynn Griffiths claimed to have
>> been raped; Brawley over a period of several days. Brawley ALSO named
>> those who supposedly kidnapped and raped her. All three were found out to
>> be reporting other than facts, or, as it’s known in legalese, LYING.
> What about Susan Smith, the white American who killed her kids and claimed
> a black man did it?
I KNEW this would come up sooner or later. Trust that an absolute moron
like Caesar would bring it up.
Yes, Caesar, WHAT ABOUT Susan Smith? What she did was reprehensible.
Does her crime make black crime all of a sudden more acceptable? Try
running that by the guy who’s wife was raped by Willie Horton.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 31 11:16:54 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: Les does so know what a liberal is!(was: The idiocy of liberals)
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evil “Foot-boy” Beavis ([email protected]) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>>
>> Dan Bennett wrote:
>>
>> Moi:
>> >> Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
>> >
>> > We’ve already been over that. Semites are caucasians, i.e., white.
>> > Try to keep up, OK?
>>
>> Keep up with liberal lies and deceptions? I do already.
>
> It is funny to see how you go on about “liberals” and how bad they are! You
> don’t even know what the term liberal means!! Have you ever read any
> political philosophy? People like the founding fathers of the U.S.,
> F.A. Hayek, John Locke – all part of the liberal tradition.
And they would all puke if they saw what sort of people (and I use the
term very lightly) used the designation “liberal” today. Name me _one_
liberal from times past who SUPPORTED multiracialism, Beaver. Aside from
J.J. Rouseau, who ADMITTED to needing his fantasies, I don’t think you’ll
be able to.
> Now there is a difference between classical and contemporary, or progressive,
> liberalism of course…
No shit, Sherlock. Classical liberalism, also known as True Liberalism,
has NOTHING to do with the putrid, cowardly filth that is bandied forth
today as “liberal” causes. Like I said, classical liberals would puke if
they saw “progressive” liberals.
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 31 11:16:55 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Caesar ([email protected]) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] “Les Griswold” writes:
>> John Baglow ([email protected]), whiny union shit, writes:
(snip)
>> > We all know how brave you Aryan warriors are. Firebombing immigrant
>> > hostels
>>
>> Uh, that was PROVEN to be an immigrant. Lebanese or Turk. Muslim, in any
>> event.
>
> That makes them non-white, does it?
Yes. Turks and Lebanese are SEMITES.
> The Bosnian and Albanian Muslims look fairly white to me.
Oh, well, who am I to argue with T.V.?
Les
From [email protected] Sun Mar 31 12:53:19 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Les Griswold)
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Subject: Re: MINORITIES TARGETED in Ontario cutbacks
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Cthulhu ([email protected]) writes:
> In article
>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Dari Meade) wrote:
>>
>>> An Anti-Racist Perspective on the Tory Agenda
>>>
>>> PROVINCIAL CUTBACKS: AN ANTI-RACIST PERSPECTIVE
>>>
>>> COMMUNITIES OF COLOUR, PEOPLE OF THE FIRST
>>> NATIONS, IMMIGRANTS, AND REFUGEES ARE BEING DIRECTLY TARGETTED BY CUTS AND
>>> CHANGES IN EQUITY PROGRAMS, HEALTHCARE, ARTS AND SETTLEMENT SERVICES.
>>>
>>> ————————————————————————
>>>
>>> Did you know that the Employment Equity Act was repealed? Last December the
>>> Tories eliminated the Employment Equity Act and the Employment Equity
>>> Commission. Employment Equity tried to challenge the historical
>>> inequities in the workforce.
>>
>>I have always had a problem with Employment Equity in the context of this
>>province. Where is the historical inequity suffered by immigrant groups
>>that have not been in the province for more than a decade? I have lived
>>in Toronto for 32 years and can assure you that less than 25 years ago there
>>were few visible minorities in this province. The immigration of visible
>>minorities is a recent phenomena, so how can anyone possible claim historical
>>discrimination. This argument works for Blacks in the United States, but
>>how does it apply to people who were raised in other countries and choose to
>>immigrate to Canada?
>
> The Chinese certainly. We were lured over with lies about how there were
> mountains of gold here. We were wanted as practically-free labour for the
> railroad. And when the job was finished, they tried to force us out. When it
> couldn’t be done legally, race riots happened. Efforts to keep us out of the
> country included the racist head tax.
>
> But we are digressing. Employment equity is not being able to get a job
> because of your skin color, being payed less because you’re
> black/white/yellow, not being promoted simply because you’re a visible
> minority, etc. If I refused to hire you because you’re white, then you would
> be able to use the Employment Equity act against me. And vice versa, of
> course.
Pretty words, Cthulhu. But a load of B.S. in reality. NO-ONE would take
a vizmin to court for discrimination, and you know it.
Les
