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jbellinger@sprynet.com wrote:

>If you have information WHERE the Poles arrested Goeth, and WHEN and
>under what circumstances, please posty it rather than speculative comments.
>The facts would be far more helpful. Thanks.
>

This paragraph comes from _Soldiers of Evil_ by Tom Segev,
McGraw-Hill, 1987, page 154:

“In the autumn of 1944 Goeth was arrested in connection with an
investigation of corruption in the camps, the same investigation by
Morgen that brought about the execution of Karl Koch and Hermann
Florstedt. Goeth was also suspeed of embezzlement, but before he could
be put on trial the war ended. The Americans who captured him turned
him over to the Poles, who hanged him, not far from his camp. It was a
lightning trial that lasted only two weeks — Goeth was convicted of te
murders of tens of thousands of people. During his trial Goeth
displayed provocative indifference. He accepted responsibility for
what happened at Plascow. He had been given authority and permission
to do everything he had done, he said, and acted in accordance with
the orders he had received. He was at peace with himself to the end,
his widow said, a political soldier.”

Mike Curtis
E-mail mcurtis@inetport.com
Nizkor Web: https://www.nizkor.org/

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In article ,
Michael A. Hoffman II wrote:
>Schindler’s List: A Case Study in Fraud and Propaganda
>
>The Campaign for Radical Truth in History offers several resource articles
>documenting the extent of the lies and deceit in Mr. Spielberg’s
>Academy-awarding winning opus, “Schindler’s List.”
>
>These articles are scholarly and well-argued and demonstrate to an amazing
>degree the depth of Spielberg’s lying.

Of course, Mr. Hoffman is not above lying himself. He claims that
Goeth was arrested not only for theft, but for the murder of inmates. The
affidavits he claims show this do not in fact provide clear evidence for
what charges were made against him. (There was one list of crimes which
were discovered in the camps, and a separate list of people arrested – but
it is not a valid interpretation to say that each and every person
arrested must have committed each and every crime on the list.) The
unambiguous sources only mention corruption charges, not murder.

This has been pointed out to Mr. Hoffman more than once, yet he
continues to make his fraudulent claim, pretending to have evidence he
does not in fact hold. Mr. Hoffman has been caught at other fraudulent
claims which he continues to repeat even though he should be well aware
that he is wrong. Not everything he says is false, but even his “truths”
are often selective and distorted.


Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.

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mstein@access1.digex.net (Michael P. Stein) writes:

# Of course, Mr. Hoffman is not above lying himself. He claims
# that Goeth was arrested not only for theft, but for the
# murder of inmates. The affidavits he claims show this do
# not in fact provide clear evidence for what charges were
# made against him.

Moreover, Hoffman ignores the fact that the SS judicial
system did not view mass murder as a crime at all… on
the contrary:

Excerpts from Verdict of the SS Court in Munich, against
SS-Untersturmfuehrer Max Taubner, 24 of May 1943
[‘The Good Old Days’ – E. Klee, W. Dressen, V. Riess, The
Free Press, NY, 1988, p, 196-207]
———————————————————-

1. The accused shall not be punished because of the actions against
the Jews as such. The Jews have to be exterminated and none of the
Jews that were killed is any great loss. Although the accused should
have recognized that the extermination of the Jews was the duty of
Kommandos which were set up especially for this purpose, he should
be excused for considering himself to have the authority to take
part in the extermination of Jewry himself.

-Danny Keren.