Giwer Matt, Report-3

“…we may be able to firmly re-establish this as a conference on
revisionism. That is, make it useless to the hijackers.”
– Matt Giwer, June 21, 1996

Matt Giwer has tried to take over alt.revisionism. With trolls,
with insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word
responses, with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point,
he has buried the signal under an avalanche of noise.

Nizkor wishes, and others wish, to be able to confront “revisionist”
claims. Giwer’s aim is to make that impossible.

Giwer has failed in his aim, partly because people have realized
that he is not to be taken too seriously, and partly because his
mainstay technique of spamming was detected as such and cancelled
by Chris Lewis’ anti-spam-bot.

This automated posting script keeps track of Giwer’s posting volume
and thus his measure of success in distracting the group. If that
measure of success remains sufficiently low, this script will be
discontinued indefinitely.

Here are the statistics for July 29th and 30th:

Total number of articles posted: 483

Articles from Matt Giwer: 33 (6.8%)
Articles mentioning Giwer: 57 (11.8%)

Articles per day from Giwer: 16.5
Articles per day mentioning Giwer: 28.5

Note that the “mentioning” figure includes the “from” figure —
every article from Giwer is assumed to mention Giwer at least once πŸ™‚

Here is a graphical representation of posts from Giwer and posts
mentioning Giwer for these days. Each “F” represents one article
>from Giwer; each “m” represents one additional article with the
string “giwer” somewhere in its header or body.

Jul 30: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 29: FFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmm

For comparison, here is the graph for the previous seven days:

Jul 28: FFFFFFFmmmmmmmmm
Jul 27: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm
Jul 26: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 25: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 24: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 23: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 22: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It is technically possible to cut off Matt Giwer from this group.
However, it would not be morally proper, since he is not conducting
malicious forgeries, (what is usually known as) spamming, or any other
activities which would warrant an infringement on his freedom of speech.
All we can do is ignore him, and hope he gets bored with us and starts
bothering some other group. (He’s been annoying people and getting
kicked out of discussion forums for fifteen years; Usenet is the first
he’s found where he can’t be kicked out.)

Nizkor suggests that alt.revisionism readers keep in mind that he is
trolling, and that they think twice about bothering to respond to him.

To ignore him most effectively, use a KILL file on your news reader:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/killfile [broken link 1]

For more information about Matt Giwer, see:
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/ [broken link 2]
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/lies [broken link 3]
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse [broken link 4]

The Matt Giwer Random Lie Generator:
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/random-giwer-lie.cgi

Chris Lewis’ bot cancels Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/cancels.0796Β  [broken link 5]

Chris Lewis flames πŸ™‚ Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/credibility-toilet [broken link 6]

(“Overall, Chris Lewis is considered to be the expert on spam
cancelling, and one of the experts on Usenet in general.”
– The Net Abuse FAQ, 2.10)

The Net Abuse FAQ:
http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html (page does not exist)

The EFF’s “Net Abuse and ‘Spamming’ Archive”:
http://ftp.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Folklore/Spam/ (page does not exist)

The Cancelmoose/NoCeM web site:
http://www.cm.org/ (page does not exist)

alt.religion.scientology and “vertical spam”:
http://www.bway.net/~keith/spam/spam.htm (page does not exist)
http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html (page does not exist)

The perl5 script that generates this automated posting was written by
Jamie McCarthy; feel free to post your comments publicly or to email
them to [email protected] It posts three times a week. Once a week
(each Friday) it cross-posts to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. In the
interest of full disclosure, the script is available at:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?miscellany/giwer-report.pl [broken link 7]

From [email protected] Sat Aug 3 07:04:09 PDT 1996
Article: 55125 of alt.revisionism
Path: not-for-mail
From: [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR JUL 31: 8.3% / 11.5%
Followup-To: alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.revisionism
Date: 3 Aug 1996 05:08:18 -0700
Organization: The Nizkor Project, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Lines: 106
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.almanac.bc.ca
X-Nizkor-URL: https://nizkor.org/
X-Giwer-URL: https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/ [broken link 8]

“…we may be able to firmly re-establish this as a conference on
revisionism. That is, make it useless to the hijackers.”
– Matt Giwer, June 21, 1996

Matt Giwer has tried to take over alt.revisionism. With trolls,
with insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word
responses, with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point,
he has buried the signal under an avalanche of noise.

Nizkor wishes, and others wish, to be able to confront “revisionist”
claims. Giwer’s aim is to make that impossible.

Giwer has failed in his aim, partly because people have realized
that he is not to be taken too seriously, and partly because his
mainstay technique of spamming was detected as such and cancelled
by Chris Lewis’ anti-spam-bot.

This automated posting script keeps track of Giwer’s posting volume
and thus his measure of success in distracting the group. If that
measure of success remains sufficiently low, this script will be
discontinued indefinitely.

Here are the statistics for July 31st:

Total number of articles posted: 217

Articles from Matt Giwer: 18 (8.3%)
Articles mentioning Giwer: 25 (11.5%)

Articles per day from Giwer: 18
Articles per day mentioning Giwer: 25

Note that the “mentioning” figure includes the “from” figure —
every article from Giwer is assumed to mention Giwer at least once πŸ™‚

Here is a graphical representation of posts from Giwer and posts
mentioning Giwer for these days. Each “F” represents one article
>from Giwer; each “m” represents one additional article with the
string “giwer” somewhere in its header or body.

Jul 31: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm

For comparison, here is the graph for the previous seven days:

Jul 30: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 29: FFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 28: FFFFFFFmmmmmmmmm
Jul 27: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm
Jul 26: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 25: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 24: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It is technically possible to cut off Matt Giwer from this group.
However, it would not be morally proper, since he is not conducting
malicious forgeries, (what is usually known as) spamming, or any other
activities which would warrant an infringement on his freedom of speech.
All we can do is ignore him, and hope he gets bored with us and starts
bothering some other group. (He’s been annoying people and getting
kicked out of discussion forums for fifteen years; Usenet is the first
he’s found where he can’t be kicked out.)

Nizkor suggests that alt.revisionism readers keep in mind that he is
trolling, and that they think twice about bothering to respond to him.

To ignore him most effectively, use a KILL file on your news reader:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/killfile

For more information about Matt Giwer, see:
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/lies
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse

The Matt Giwer Random Lie Generator:
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/random-giwer-lie.cgi

Chris Lewis’ bot cancels Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/cancels.0796

Chris Lewis flames πŸ™‚ Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/credibility-toilet

(“Overall, Chris Lewis is considered to be the expert on spam
cancelling, and one of the experts on Usenet in general.”
– The Net Abuse FAQ, 2.10)

The Net Abuse FAQ:
http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html

The EFF’s “Net Abuse and ‘Spamming’ Archive”:
http://ftp.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Folklore/Spam/

The Cancelmoose/NoCeM web site:
http://www.cm.org/

alt.religion.scientology and “vertical spam”:
http://www.bway.net/~keith/spam/spam.htm
http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html

The perl5 script that generates this automated posting was written by
Jamie McCarthy; feel free to post your comments publicly or to email
them to [email protected] It posts three times a week. Once a week
(each Friday) it cross-posts to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. In the
interest of full disclosure, the script is available at:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?miscellany/giwer-report.pl

From [email protected] Sun Aug 4 07:46:43 PDT 1996
Article: 55273 of alt.revisionism
Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!portc01.blue.aol.com!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!nntp.coast.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.infinet.com!cmh-p088.infinet.com!user
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR JUL 19-21: 14.8% / 22.3%
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 16:39:29 -0400
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 23
Message-ID:
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmh-p088.infinet.com

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(Matt Giwer) wrote:

> AG appears of the opinion that you folks who have gotten
together and hatched
> this claim that he considers to be untrue and to have posted it in several NGs
> and to my service provider are guilty of prima facia conspiracy to spread
> false information.
>
> Is there anything you folks have to say in your own defense?

I might have a great deal to say if you would please compose an
intelligent post using grammatical sentences. The ones above are nonsense.

If you’d offer a translation of this mumbo-jumbo, I’d be delighted to
respond to it.

Sara


“It’s always nice to see a prejudice overruled by a deeper prejudice.”
John Sayles, _Lone Star_

From [email protected] Mon Aug 5 07:05:10 PDT 1996
Article: 55451 of alt.revisionism
Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!not-for-mail
From: [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR AUG 1: 18.6% / 19.2%
Followup-To: alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.revisionism
Date: 5 Aug 1996 05:07:16 -0700
Organization: The Nizkor Project, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Lines: 106
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.almanac.bc.ca
X-Nizkor-URL: https://nizkor.org/
X-Giwer-URL: https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/

“…we may be able to firmly re-establish this as a conference on
revisionism. That is, make it useless to the hijackers.”
– Matt Giwer, June 21, 1996

Matt Giwer has tried to take over alt.revisionism. With trolls,
with insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word
responses, with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point,
he has buried the signal under an avalanche of noise.

Nizkor wishes, and others wish, to be able to confront “revisionist”
claims. Giwer’s aim is to make that impossible.

Giwer has failed in his aim, partly because people have realized
that he is not to be taken too seriously, and partly because his
mainstay technique of spamming was detected as such and cancelled
by Chris Lewis’ anti-spam-bot.

This automated posting script keeps track of Giwer’s posting volume
and thus his measure of success in distracting the group. If that
measure of success remains sufficiently low, this script will be
discontinued indefinitely.

Here are the statistics for August 1st:

Total number of articles posted: 167

Articles from Matt Giwer: 31 (18.6%)
Articles mentioning Giwer: 32 (19.2%)

Articles per day from Giwer: 31
Articles per day mentioning Giwer: 32

Note that the “mentioning” figure includes the “from” figure —
every article from Giwer is assumed to mention Giwer at least once πŸ™‚

Here is a graphical representation of posts from Giwer and posts
mentioning Giwer for these days. Each “F” represents one article
>from Giwer; each “m” represents one additional article with the
string “giwer” somewhere in its header or body.

Aug 1: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFm

For comparison, here is the graph for the previous seven days:

Jul 31: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm
Jul 30: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 29: FFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 28: FFFFFFFmmmmmmmmm
Jul 27: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm
Jul 26: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 25: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It is technically possible to cut off Matt Giwer from this group.
However, it would not be morally proper, since he is not conducting
malicious forgeries, (what is usually known as) spamming, or any other
activities which would warrant an infringement on his freedom of speech.
All we can do is ignore him, and hope he gets bored with us and starts
bothering some other group. (He’s been annoying people and getting
kicked out of discussion forums for fifteen years; Usenet is the first
he’s found where he can’t be kicked out.)

Nizkor suggests that alt.revisionism readers keep in mind that he is
trolling, and that they think twice about bothering to respond to him.

To ignore him most effectively, use a KILL file on your news reader:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/killfile

For more information about Matt Giwer, see:
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/lies
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse

The Matt Giwer Random Lie Generator:
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/random-giwer-lie.cgi

Chris Lewis’ bot cancels Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/cancels.0796

Chris Lewis flames πŸ™‚ Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/credibility-toilet

(“Overall, Chris Lewis is considered to be the expert on spam
cancelling, and one of the experts on Usenet in general.”
– The Net Abuse FAQ, 2.10)

The Net Abuse FAQ:
http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html

The EFF’s “Net Abuse and ‘Spamming’ Archive”:
http://ftp.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Folklore/Spam/

The Cancelmoose/NoCeM web site:
http://www.cm.org/

alt.religion.scientology and “vertical spam”:
http://www.bway.net/~keith/spam/spam.htm
http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html

The perl5 script that generates this automated posting was written by
Jamie McCarthy; feel free to post your comments publicly or to email
them to [email protected] It posts three times a week. Once a week
(each Friday) it cross-posts to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. In the
interest of full disclosure, the script is available at:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?miscellany/giwer-report.pl

From [email protected] Mon Aug 5 14:24:53 PDT 1996
Article: 65239 of news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!not-for-mail
From: [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Subject: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR JUL 29-30: 6.8% / 11.8%
Followup-To: alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.revisionism,news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Date: 2 Aug 1996 05:06:19 -0700
Organization: The Nizkor Project, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Lines: 107
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.almanac.bc.ca
X-Nizkor-URL: https://nizkor.org/
X-Giwer-URL: https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:54988 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:65239

“…we may be able to firmly re-establish this as a conference on
revisionism. That is, make it useless to the hijackers.”
– Matt Giwer, June 21, 1996

Matt Giwer has tried to take over alt.revisionism. With trolls,
with insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word
responses, with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point,
he has buried the signal under an avalanche of noise.

Nizkor wishes, and others wish, to be able to confront “revisionist”
claims. Giwer’s aim is to make that impossible.

Giwer has failed in his aim, partly because people have realized
that he is not to be taken too seriously, and partly because his
mainstay technique of spamming was detected as such and cancelled
by Chris Lewis’ anti-spam-bot.

This automated posting script keeps track of Giwer’s posting volume
and thus his measure of success in distracting the group. If that
measure of success remains sufficiently low, this script will be
discontinued indefinitely.

Here are the statistics for July 29th and 30th:

Total number of articles posted: 483

Articles from Matt Giwer: 33 (6.8%)
Articles mentioning Giwer: 57 (11.8%)

Articles per day from Giwer: 16.5
Articles per day mentioning Giwer: 28.5

Note that the “mentioning” figure includes the “from” figure —
every article from Giwer is assumed to mention Giwer at least once πŸ™‚

Here is a graphical representation of posts from Giwer and posts
mentioning Giwer for these days. Each “F” represents one article
>from Giwer; each “m” represents one additional article with the
string “giwer” somewhere in its header or body.

Jul 30: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 29: FFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmm

For comparison, here is the graph for the previous seven days:

Jul 28: FFFFFFFmmmmmmmmm
Jul 27: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm
Jul 26: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 25: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 24: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 23: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 22: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It is technically possible to cut off Matt Giwer from this group.
However, it would not be morally proper, since he is not conducting
malicious forgeries, (what is usually known as) spamming, or any other
activities which would warrant an infringement on his freedom of speech.
All we can do is ignore him, and hope he gets bored with us and starts
bothering some other group. (He’s been annoying people and getting
kicked out of discussion forums for fifteen years; Usenet is the first
he’s found where he can’t be kicked out.)

Nizkor suggests that alt.revisionism readers keep in mind that he is
trolling, and that they think twice about bothering to respond to him.

To ignore him most effectively, use a KILL file on your news reader:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/killfile

For more information about Matt Giwer, see:
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/lies
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse

The Matt Giwer Random Lie Generator:
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/random-giwer-lie.cgi

Chris Lewis’ bot cancels Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/cancels.0796

Chris Lewis flames πŸ™‚ Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/credibility-toilet

(“Overall, Chris Lewis is considered to be the expert on spam
cancelling, and one of the experts on Usenet in general.”
– The Net Abuse FAQ, 2.10)

The Net Abuse FAQ:
http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html

The EFF’s “Net Abuse and ‘Spamming’ Archive”:
http://ftp.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Folklore/Spam/

The Cancelmoose/NoCeM web site:
http://www.cm.org/

alt.religion.scientology and “vertical spam”:
http://www.bway.net/~keith/spam/spam.htm
http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html

The perl5 script that generates this automated posting was written by
Jamie McCarthy; feel free to post your comments publicly or to email
them to [email protected] It posts three times a week. Once a week
(each Friday) it cross-posts to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. In the
interest of full disclosure, the script is available at:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?miscellany/giwer-report.pl

From [email protected] Wed Aug 7 13:27:33 PDT 1996
Article: 55688 of alt.revisionism
Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!not-for-mail
From: [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR AUG 2-4: 10.4% / 14%
Followup-To: alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.revisionism
Date: 7 Aug 1996 05:10:09 -0700
Organization: The Nizkor Project, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Lines: 113
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.almanac.bc.ca
X-Nizkor-URL: https://nizkor.org/
X-Giwer-URL: https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/

“…we may be able to firmly re-establish this as a conference on
revisionism. That is, make it useless to the hijackers.”
– Matt Giwer, June 21, 1996

Matt Giwer has tried to take over alt.revisionism. With trolls,
with insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word
responses, with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point,
he has buried the signal under an avalanche of noise.

Nizkor wishes, and others wish, to be able to confront “revisionist”
claims. Giwer’s aim is to make that impossible.

Giwer has failed in his aim, partly because people have realized
that he is not to be taken too seriously, and partly because his
mainstay technique of spamming was detected as such and cancelled
by Chris Lewis’ anti-spam-bot.

This automated posting script keeps track of Giwer’s posting volume
and thus his measure of success in distracting the group. If that
measure of success remains sufficiently low, this script will be
discontinued indefinitely.

Here are the statistics for August 2nd through 4th:

Total number of articles posted: 394

Articles from Matt Giwer: 41 (10.4%)
Articles mentioning Giwer: 55 (14%)

Articles per day from Giwer: 13.7
Articles per day mentioning Giwer: 18.3

Note that the “mentioning” figure includes the “from” figure —
every article from Giwer is assumed to mention Giwer at least once πŸ™‚

Here is a graphical representation of posts from Giwer and posts
mentioning Giwer for these days. Each “F” represents one article
>from Giwer; each “m” represents one additional article with the
string “giwer” somewhere in its header or body.

Aug 4: FFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmm
Aug 3: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmm
Aug 2: FFmmm

For comparison, here is the graph for the previous seven days:

Aug 1: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFm
Jul 31: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm
Jul 30: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 29: FFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 28: FFFFFFFmmmmmmmmm
Jul 27: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm
Jul 26: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It is technically possible to cut off Matt Giwer from this group.
However, it would not be morally proper, since he is not conducting
malicious forgeries, (what is usually known as) spamming, or any other
activities which would warrant an infringement on his freedom of speech.
All we can do is ignore him, and hope he gets bored with us and starts
bothering some other group. (He’s been annoying people and getting
kicked out of discussion forums for fifteen years; Usenet is the first
he’s found where he can’t be kicked out.)

Nizkor suggests that alt.revisionism readers keep in mind that he is
trolling, and that they think twice about bothering to respond to him.

To ignore him most effectively, use a KILL file on your news reader:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/killfile

For more information about Matt Giwer, see:
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/lies
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse

The Matt Giwer Random Lie Generator:
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/random-giwer-lie.cgi

Chris Lewis’ bot cancels Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/cancels.0796

Chris Lewis flames πŸ™‚ Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/credibility-toilet

(“Overall, Chris Lewis is considered to be the expert on spam
cancelling, and one of the experts on Usenet in general.”
– The Net Abuse FAQ, 2.10)

The Net Abuse FAQ:
http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html

The EFF’s “Net Abuse and ‘Spamming’ Archive”:
http://ftp.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Folklore/Spam/

The Cancelmoose/NoCeM web site:
http://www.cm.org/

alt.religion.scientology and “vertical spam”:
http://www.bway.net/~keith/spam/spam.htm
http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html

The perl5 script that generates this automated posting was written by
Jamie McCarthy; feel free to post your comments publicly or to email
them to [email protected] It posts three times a week. Once a week
(each Friday) it cross-posts to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. In the
interest of full disclosure, the script is available at:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?miscellany/giwer-report.pl



Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
[email protected] co-Webmaster of https://nizkor.org/
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From [email protected] Fri Aug 9 08:02:17 PDT 1996
Article: 56019 of alt.revisionism
Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!not-for-mail
From: [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Subject: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR AUG 5-6: 8.4% / 13.3%
Followup-To: alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.revisionism,news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Date: 9 Aug 1996 05:08:22 -0700
Organization: The Nizkor Project, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Lines: 112
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.almanac.bc.ca
X-Nizkor-URL: https://nizkor.org/
X-Giwer-URL: https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:56019 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:80036

“…we may be able to firmly re-establish this as a conference on
revisionism. That is, make it useless to the hijackers.”
– Matt Giwer, June 21, 1996

Matt Giwer has tried to take over alt.revisionism. With trolls,
with insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word
responses, with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point,
he has buried the signal under an avalanche of noise.

Nizkor wishes, and others wish, to be able to confront “revisionist”
claims. Giwer’s aim is to make that impossible.

Giwer has failed in his aim, partly because people have realized
that he is not to be taken too seriously, and partly because his
mainstay technique of spamming was detected as such and cancelled
by Chris Lewis’ anti-spam-bot.

This automated posting script keeps track of Giwer’s posting volume
and thus his measure of success in distracting the group. If that
measure of success remains sufficiently low, this script will be
discontinued indefinitely.

Here are the statistics for August 5th and 6th:

Total number of articles posted: 309

Articles from Matt Giwer: 26 (8.4%)
Articles mentioning Giwer: 41 (13.3%)

Articles per day from Giwer: 8.7
Articles per day mentioning Giwer: 13.7

Note that the “mentioning” figure includes the “from” figure —
every article from Giwer is assumed to mention Giwer at least once πŸ™‚

Here is a graphical representation of posts from Giwer and posts
mentioning Giwer for these days. Each “F” represents one article
>from Giwer; each “m” represents one additional article with the
string “giwer” somewhere in its header or body.

Aug 6: FFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmm
Aug 5: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmm

For comparison, here is the graph for the previous seven days:

Aug 4: FFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmm
Aug 3: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmm
Aug 2: FFmmm
Aug 1: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFm
Jul 31: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmm
Jul 30: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Jul 29: FFFFFFFFFFFmmmmmmmmmm

It is technically possible to cut off Matt Giwer from this group.
However, it would not be morally proper, since he is not conducting
malicious forgeries, (what is usually known as) spamming, or any other
activities which would warrant an infringement on his freedom of speech.
All we can do is ignore him, and hope he gets bored with us and starts
bothering some other group. (He’s been annoying people and getting
kicked out of discussion forums for fifteen years; Usenet is the first
he’s found where he can’t be kicked out.)

From [email protected] Sat Aug 3 07:04:00 PDT 1996
Article: 54988 of alt.revisionism
Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!not-for-mail
From: [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Subject: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR JUL 29-30: 6.8% / 11.8%
Followup-To: alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.revisionism,news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Date: 2 Aug 1996 05:06:19 -0700
Organization: The Nizkor Project, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Lines: 107
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.almanac.bc.ca
X-Nizkor-URL: https://nizkor.org/
X-Giwer-URL: https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:54988 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:65239

Nizkor suggests that alt.revisionism readers keep in mind that he is
trolling, and that they think twice about bothering to respond to him.

To ignore him most effectively, use a KILL file on your news reader:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/killfile

For more information about Matt Giwer, see:
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt/
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/lies
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse

The Matt Giwer Random Lie Generator:
http://www.almanac.bc.ca/random-giwer-lie.cgi

Chris Lewis’ bot cancels Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/cancels.0796

Chris Lewis flames πŸ™‚ Matt Giwer:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/credibility-toilet

(“Overall, Chris Lewis is considered to be the expert on spam
cancelling, and one of the experts on Usenet in general.”
– The Net Abuse FAQ, 2.10)

The Net Abuse FAQ:
http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html

The EFF’s “Net Abuse and ‘Spamming’ Archive”:
http://ftp.eff.org/pub/Net_culture/Folklore/Spam/

The Cancelmoose/NoCeM web site:
http://www.cm.org/

alt.religion.scientology and “vertical spam”:
http://www.bway.net/~keith/spam/spam.htm
http://daemon.apana.org.au/~fjc/scn/spam.html

The perl5 script that generates this automated posting was written by
Jamie McCarthy; feel free to post your comments publicly or to email
them to [email protected] It posts three times a week. Once a week
(each Friday) it cross-posts to news.admin.net-abuse.misc. In the
interest of full disclosure, the script is available at:
https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?miscellany/giwer-report.pl



Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
[email protected] co-Webmaster of https://nizkor.org/
Hate mail will be posted.

From [email protected] Fri Aug 9 08:02:19 PDT 1996
Article: 56052 of alt.revisionism
Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!news.mathworks.com!nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com!winternet.com!joelr
From: [email protected] (Joel Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.bonehead.matt-giwer,alt.revisionism,news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Subject: Re: MATT GIWER REPORT FOR AUG 5-6: 8.4% / 13.3%
Date: 9 Aug 96 14:00:13 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc
Lines: 15
Message-ID:
References: <[email protected]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: tundra.winternet.com
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV)
Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.bonehead.matt-giwer:426 alt.revisionism:56052 news.admin.net-abuse.misc:80076

[email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) writes:

> “…we may be able to firmly re-establish this as a conference on
> revisionism. That is, make it useless to the hijackers.”
> – Matt Giwer, June 21, 1996

>Matt Giwer has tried to take over alt.revisionism.

Which, given how easy it is for most newsreaders to generate
killfiles, it pretty obviously doomed to failure.

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