Giwer Matt, Gandhi Rajiv Att 1

[What follows is a slightly edited version of the letter forwarded to
[email protected]]

On September 20, 1996, at 10:53 PM (PST) I was subject to a mailbomb
attack, initiated by a Worldnet customer, namely Mathias Giwer
([email protected]).

The subject of the mailbomb was an article I had posted to the Usenet, in
the newsgroup alt.revisionism – the header of which follows:

Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:58:37 -0700
From: [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi)
To: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Subject: Re: ‘There Was No Longer Any Escape’
Organization: The Celyddon Forest
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b13

As you will note, a copy of this article was forwarded to Mr. Giwer. In
response, Mr. Giwer chose to abuse his Worldnet connection by sending me
104 copies of this article. The article itself was unedited, save for the
attachment, to each copy, of a nine line advertisement for his website,
currently housed with another service provider. It should be noted for the
record that my posting to the Usenet, was in response to an article posted
by Mr. Giwer using his Worldnet service.

[Also for the record, it should be noted that my comments in that article
stem from an endless number of articles posted by Mr. Giwer on Friday night
– all containing various death threats, insults, and rants against posters
and Jews in general. Anybody who is interested in finding these articles
should look to the following:

Subject: fucking jew traitors
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Photographs: EINSATZGRUPPEN Massacres
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Photograph: Rascher’s Letter Concerning the Dachau Gas Chamber
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: ‘There Was No Longer Any Escape’
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Ausrotten and the only good Indian is a dead Indian
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Matt Giwer, here’s the directions you wanted..
Message-ID: <[email protected]>]

As a longtime Internet user, I am well aware of the dangers in an
environment where the enforcement of simple etiquette is generally not
feasible before the fact. I also understand the right for those connected
to the Internet to express themselves freely. I fact, I support this.
Alt.revisionism is a forum where people may discuss the fact of the
Holocaust without sanction. I support Mr. Giwer’s right to his freedom of

However, what I do not support are Mr. Giwer’s attempts to abuse his
connection to the Internet. I do not mind that ANYBODY sends me e-mail if
they should choose it as the method to express an opinion. However, I do
not want to be harassed. Mailbombing is harassment.

A single copy of the mailbomb letter, which, again, was delivered to me 104
times, follows, with headers intact:

From!rajiv_gandhi Sat Sep 21 22:03:24 1996
Received:  (Smail3.1.29.1 #8)
id m0v4ghP-000QNLC; Sat, 21 Sep 96 22:03 PDT
Received: from  ; 21 SEP 96 22:02:57 PDT
Received: (from nobody@localhost) by (
8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA28698 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:54:19 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from
by via smap (V1.3)
id sma028672; Sat Sep 21 21:54:01 1996
X-Sender: [email protected]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”us-ascii”
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:55:31 -0700
To: “Kenneth McVay OBC”
From: “Rajiv K. Gandhi”
Subject: Mailbomb Report
Status: RO

Received: (from nobody@localhost) by (8.7.1/8.7.1) id
VAA28068 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:31:23
-0700 (PDT)
Received: from by
via smap (V1.3)
id sma028060; Fri Sep 20 21:31:21 1996
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( MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAV18597
for ;
Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:33:13 +0000
X-Sender: [email protected]
X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi)
From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: ‘There Was No Longer Any Escape’
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 04:33:13 +0000
Message-ID: <19960921043133.AAV18597@LOCALNAME>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=”us-ascii”
Content-Length: 1822

At 03:58 AM 9/21/96 +0000, you wrote:
>(A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] (Matt Giwer) wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Sep 1996 22:04:29 GMT, [email protected] (Daniel Keren) wrote:
>> >[email protected] (Matt Giwer) writes:
>> ># The infamous “tube” of Treblinka appears closer to the British
>> ># use of the word meaning subway, rather to American English
>> ># capitalization could perhaps serve best as “the Passageway.”
>> ># By analogy, perhaps was a German analogy to the submarine
>> ># term and a better translation would be “trash chute.
>> >The German word is “schlauch”. It referred to the curved
>> >passageway that led to the gas chambers. I agree that “tube”
>> >is not a very good translation.
>> Scum lying murderers like you are never to be trusted.
>You know, there can be no other explanation for this continued barrage of
>blatherings except to conclude that you are either having a minor stroke
>or you are drunk. Whichever it is, please get help.
>[incoherent Giwer .sig deleted]
>[Posted/emailed – warning: attempts at mailbombs will be automatically
>filtered, filed; copies will be returned to sender and to sender’s ISP]
Live fast, love well, and have a glorious Website. (page does not exist)
Commentary from the right side of the curve
Maintaining does not exist) (tips and tricks for webs) (page does not exist)(eye candy, blantant advertising) (my son)(page does not exist) (page does not exist)(for internet advertising)

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[ Upon notification of this mailbomb, I immediately placed a call to
Worldnet, and talked to a gentleman in Worldnet Tech Support who took my
complaint over the telephone and provided me with a file number. He then
urged me to send email to the I was informed
that Worldnet has a three strikes rule with respect to net abuse. The
gentleman further informed me that he might have a quick gander at
alt.revisionism to see the kind of things that get posted. (Since Friday
September 20 was not a good night for coherent, threatless Giwer posts, I
would think that this does not bode well for Giwer.) The following day
(September 21) I received a second call from a lady at Worldnet Customer
Service who also requested that I forward her a copy of the e-mail, and
that one copy should go to [email protected]. Apparently Worldnet
takes this kind of thing quite seriously. Also, for the record, I requested
only that Worldnet takes steps to ensure that Giwer is educated with
respect to Usenet etiquette and that he be instructed to refrain from
further mailbombings. I also provided them with a link to Giwer’s net-abuse
directory at Nizkor and urged them to review it so as to become familiar
with past Giwer tactics.]