[email protected] Hilary Ostrov wrote:
>In <[email protected]>,
[email protected] Matt Giwer wrote:
>[snip]
>> The true truth depends only upon the story the huggers wants to tell.
>> You would think at some point they would be bright enough to refrain
>>from telling contradictory stories.
>The Giwer-troll, speaking for the umpteenth time from his position of
>profound willful ignorance, demonstrates that he is capable of
>controlling his keyboard sufficiently to post two sentences without a
>typo. Yet he continues to induce terminal boredom in all but the
>ignorant societal misfits whose admiration and approbation he so
>desparately seeks.
>You would think at some point he would be bright enough to realize
>that he would be much better off if he were to refrain from all his
>useless wastes of bandwidth.
>But, ever true to his motto, he leaves no post untrolled.
>Amazing, simply amazing!
You are the one who claimed regex was a search engine, dumb broad. One
could also presume you are fat, very fat, as in soap material.
From what I have read it appears you are laying this Jamie character to
get this “co-” reference. But it is clear you know only marginally less
than he.
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Kids Stay Cozy in Gas Chambers
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From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
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Subject: Re: I am asking for a number, stupid
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>
, [email protected] (Matt
>Giwer) wrote:
>>[email protected] (Richard J. Green) wrote:
>>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>>Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
>>>>> [email protected] (Matt Giwer) writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Cute. If you do not have a number for those immediately executed
>>>>> solely because they were Jews simply say so. Just stop the game
>>>>> playing.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the number?
>>>>
>>>> The game player seems to be you. Your question makes no sense. Is a
>>>>person deliberately starved or worked to death executed? There were
>>>>approximately 6 million Jews murdered because they were Jews. The low figure is
>>>>5.1 million the high is slightly over 6.
>>>Indeed! Hilberg[1] estimates deaths by cause:
>>>Ghettoization and general privation: 800,000
>>>Open-air shootings: 1,300,000
>>>Camps: 3,000,000
>>>Total: 5,100,000
>>>He breaks down the camps category as follows:
>>>Death camps: 2,700,000
>>>Camps w/ tolls in the low 150,000
>>> 10,000’s or below
>>>Romanian 100,000
>>>Croatian 50,000
>>>Total: 3,000,000
>>>He breaks down death camps as follows:
>>>Auschwitz[1]: 1,000,000
>>>Treblinka: 750,000
>>>Belzec: 550,000
>>>Sobibor: 200,000
>>>Kulmhof: 150,000
>>>Lublin: 50,000
>>>Total: 2,700,000
>>>As Mr. Edeiken mentions, Hilberg’s estimate is on the low end.
>>>[1] Raoul Hilberg, _The Destruction of the European Jews_
>>> volume 3, appendix B, Holmes & Meier: New York (1985)
>>>[2] The Auscwitz-Birkenau complex
>> This still does not break it down in the manner I am looking for unless
>>the claim is of 4.3M summary executions solely because of being Jewish.
>It is no doubt obvious that the Giwer-troll has stumbled across one of
>the major shortcomings of the Nazi regime. In their meticulous
>record-keeping they did not foresee the day that an arrogant, pathetic
>windbag (aka the Giwer-troll) would make it his mission in life to
>puff up his non-existent self-esteem by defending their “honour” – and
>in so-doing fulfull his dream of leading the group of societal misfits
>whose attention he so desperately seeks with his incessant useless
>wastes of bandwidth.
You have such a way with words, fat broad.
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: ‘I Witnessed a Gassing’
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Matt
>Giwer) wrote:
>[snip]
>> Is the problem getting through to you yet?
>Truth to tell, Giwer-troll, your problem got through to all reasonable
>people many thousand posts ago. And you can rest assured that every
>post you make confirms the certainty that the problem is entirely
>yours – and not only that, but it is entirely of your own making.
>Very sad. I think you might have a mind (and possibly even that famed
>163 IQ) But, as someone once said, a mind is a terrible thing to
>waste.
Well taken, Fat Broad.
But you have never revealed who you are laying to get a co-status when
you are so profoundly ignorant of anything involved in the Nizkor vanity
site.
Let me guess. About 18 stone. How close am I? And uglier than a human
hair doormat to boot.
Is there anything else you want to talk about?
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Richard
>J. Green) wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>Matt Giwer wrote:
>>>[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Matt
>>>>Giwer) wrote:
>>>
>>>>[snip]
>>>
>>>>> Is the problem getting through to you yet?
>>>
>>>>Truth to tell, Giwer-troll, your problem got through to all reasonable
>>>>people many thousand posts ago. And you can rest assured that every
>>>>post you make confirms the certainty that the problem is entirely
>>>>yours – and not only that, but it is entirely of your own making.
>>>
>>>>Very sad. I think you might have a mind (and possibly even that famed
>>>>163 IQ) But, as someone once said, a mind is a terrible thing to
>>>>waste.
>>>
>>> Well taken, Fat Broad.
>>>
>>> But you have never revealed who you are laying to get a co-status when
>>>you are so profoundly ignorant of anything involved in the Nizkor vanity
>>>site.
>>>
>>> Let me guess. About 18 stone. How close am I? And uglier than a human
>>>hair doormat to boot.
>>>
>>> Is there anything else you want to talk about?
>>Mr. Giwer proves he is a sexist as well as a racist and an antisemite.
>>What a wonderful person. What would Charlen Kyle think?
>Thanks, Mr. Green! If it weren’t for your post, I would never have
>known that the Giwer-troll had engaged his keyboard – and for the
>umpteenth time has resorted to ad hominem (or ad feminem!) attack.
>And, as is his wont, in the absence of anything which might refute the
>truth of my statements, he has chosen to utter his customary unfounded
>gutter-trollish innuendo and/or fabrications.
>As an example, those who know me will confirm that I stand 5′ tall and
>weigh slightly under 100lbs.
The only person who knows you is the one you are laying for the
co-webmater in your sig. You have no idea what you are doing, fat
broad.
That the Giwer-troll, who in his
>infinite omniscience about all that he has proven himself to be
>demonstrably ignorant, should deem such a person to be “fat” is not
>inconsistent with the relation that any of his keyboard spewings bear
>to reality. Yep, he’s a real charmer – I’m surprised he hasn’t hooked
>up with the H*berlette yet!
>For those who are unfamiliar with the Giwer-troll and the relation of
>his (ad nauseam) keyboard spewings to reality, the number is a big fat
>zero.
>If you are a newcomer to this group, and this happens to be your first
>encounter with the divine Mr. G. (that’s Giwer, not Green!) please do
>point your web browser to:
>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt
>I am confident that in no time whatsoever you will concur that …
>Mr. Giwer is a troller whose only interest is in causing fights.
>While he can sound superficially plausible, he has lied about what has
>been said in exchanges (while accusing others of lying), refused to
>document claims, pretended not to see posts which contain documented
>refutation of his claims (even when they have been emailed to him),
>engaged in actual libel, and generally conducted himself with such
>complete lack of intellectual and factual integrity that there seems
>to be no point in taking the time to read and respond.
>hro
>=======================
>Hilary Ostrov
>e-mail: [email protected]
>http://haven.uniserve.com/~hostrov/
>Co-Webmaster – The Nizkor Project http://www.almanac.bc.ca/
Despite your fantasies, you are still fat and you have zero abilities to
merit the title of co-webmaster were you not laying some one at Nizkor.
You know that and it is obvous here.
You are, of course, another piece of shit from the vanity site of
Nizkor.
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.revisionism,can.general,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Ernst Zundel’s promotion of forgery: Das Lachout Dokument
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, Alexander Baron
> wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>
>> [email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
>>> THE LACHOUT “DOCUMENT”
>>> ANATOMY OF A FORGERY
>Mr. Baron neglected to add the segueing comment: “Speaking of
>dishonest documentation and forgery, these happen to be my areas of
>expertise … and here is some news of my latest”
>>I have just completed a critique called HOLOCAUST “REVISIONISM” AND FRAUD;
>>it is currently at the proof-reading stage and will, hopefully, be available
>>by September, if not sooner, as part of my next tranche of publications.
>Oh, Alex! Really you should know better! Your next “tranche” you say?
>It is to laugh! You must be referring to yet another in the series of
>products which can only be the result of your self-induced trance of
>ignorant bigotry.
>>In keeping with my long established non-partisan spirit this study will also
>>contain many documented examples of Exterminationist chicanery.
>TRANSLATION: Because! I! Say! So! I can wrap my keyboard in the flag
>of freedom of speech and spew unsubstantiated hate-filled drivel to my
>heart’s content. I know that there are societal misfits – just like
>me – who will actually pay money for this, and I’m posting this now in
>the hope of developing a mailing list of sucke … uh …interested
>parties.
Translation: Fat Broad hasn’t got the brights to do anything but play
typist and deliver on her back.
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Subject: Another gas chamber
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:52:14 GMT
Guess what? I found a gas chamber in the old Reich. I have also found
powdered cyanide.
“Inside the showerbath [ at Dachau]- the gas vents. On the ceiling- the
dummy shower heads. In
the engineers’ room- the intake and outlet pipes. Push buttons to
control inflow and outtake of
gas. A hand-valve to regulate pressure. Cyanide powder was used to
generate the lethal smoke.
From the gas chamber, the bodies were removed to the crematory. ”
IMT XXX – p.470.
Amazing what you can find if you look around.
And holohuggers are going to believe it.
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Yet Another Example of “Revisionist” Scholarship
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:04:36 GMT
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, the paste-happy troll
>wrote:
>> http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/misc/comparison.html
>> Have a look.
>And anyone who does will notice that this “page” is replete with
>Giwerish/Moranic echoes from “arguments” which have been debunked
>(repeatedly) in this newsgroup.
Gee, and I have posted it twice now and there has yet to be a response.
The anonymous author of this
>masterpiece claims to be citing text from Nizkor’s Auschwitz Faq, yet
>neglects to provide the URL’s to his/her “explicits”.
Do I have to tell you where to find the Auschwitz FAQ also? Use your
search engine.
>There is, however, one particularly notable departure from the
>Ravenesque and that is a gratuitously insulting footnoted link to
>Nizkor, viz:
> [Referring to Naumann] also found in Nizkor, sort of a holocaust
> database but it may be purged by the time you get there. It
> conflicts with the story they approve. They do not provide full
> attribution of the original work.
>If one follows this link,
>
>one can read a document entitled:
You could not have found it without the help.
>Archive/File: holocaust/einsatzgruppen commissar.001
>Last-Modified: 1994/03/19
> “Barbarossa: The Commissar and Partisan Orders
>And in the “Work cited” section of this document, one finds:
>[…]
> Conot, Robert E. Justice at Nuremberg. New York: Harper & Row, 1983
> Hitler, Adolf. Mein Kampf. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Co., 1943, as
> cited in Conot
> Naumann, Bernd. Auschwitz. New York: Frederick A. Praeger, 1966, as
> cited in Conot
>[…]
>Posted and e-mailed to my colleagues at Nizkor.
When is it going to be deleted, fatbroad?
Isn’t “colleagues” a pretty fancy word for a few folks with a hobby on a
shit computer?
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: With evidence like this …
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 22:18:10 GMT
Amazing what some of the heroes of the holohuggers will say when under
oath.
1/24/85
Holocaust heavyweight Rudolf Vrba, under cross-examination in a
Canadian courtroom,
states under oath that 150,000 French Jews were gassed at
Auschwitz, in spite of the fact
that the entire number of Jews deported from France were only
75,721. Vrba claims he
arrived at his count “scientifically” by having listened to the
language spoken by the inmates
at Auschwitz and examining their luggage (!). The author of “I
Cannot Forgive” next
confessed that his book was “an artistic picture … not a document
for a court,” in spite of
the fact that Vrba’s testimony was crucial to both the War Refugee
Board and the Auschwitz
Trials in West Germany. Vrba further admitted that his written and
pictorial descriptions of
Auschwitz crematoria were a result of guessing, based on “what I
heard it might look like.”
Oops!
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Of Trolls and Temper Tantrums
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>Readers of this newsgroup will have noticed some recent automated
>posts by Mr. McCarthy which begin:
> Matt Giwer has singlehandedly hijacked alt.revisionism. Like the
> proverbial frog in water slowly brought to a boil, we barely noticed
> until our newsgroup became almost unusable. With trolls, with
> insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word responses,
> with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point, he has
> buried any signal that there might have been under an avalanche of
> noise.
>As might have been expected, not unlike the little child whose parents
>have wisely decided to ignore behaviour that is nothing more than
>disruptive attention-seeking, the troll – having long ago worn out his
>welcome and proven beyond all shadow of a doubt that (even if he did
>have something useful to contribute) and whose obviously non-existent
>self-esteem precludes his engaging in civilized factual rational
>discourse – proceeds to throw a major temper tantrum in response:
Hey, fat broad. Been there, done that, got the sillly tee-shirt.
You are still fat and you still contribute nothing to Nizkor other than
presenting on you back.
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Of Trolls and Temper Tantrums
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>Readers of this newsgroup will have noticed some recent automated
>posts by Mr. McCarthy which begin:
> Matt Giwer has singlehandedly hijacked alt.revisionism. Like the
> proverbial frog in water slowly brought to a boil, we barely noticed
> until our newsgroup became almost unusable. With trolls, with
> insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word responses,
> with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point, he has
> buried any signal that there might have been under an avalanche of
> noise.
>As might have been expected, not unlike the little child whose parents
>have wisely decided to ignore behaviour that is nothing more than
>disruptive attention-seeking, the troll – having long ago worn out his
>welcome and proven beyond all shadow of a doubt that (even if he did
>have something useful to contribute) and whose obviously non-existent
>self-esteem precludes his engaging in civilized factual rational
>discourse – proceeds to throw a major temper tantrum in response:
Give it up, fat broad. You know by now it was a ploy and you know there
is another ploy in place now.
It you were not part of it, you are only a woman and were not consulted.
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Of Trolls and Temper Tantrums
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>Readers of this newsgroup will have noticed some recent automated
>posts by Mr. McCarthy which begin:
> Matt Giwer has singlehandedly hijacked alt.revisionism. Like the
> proverbial frog in water slowly brought to a boil, we barely noticed
> until our newsgroup became almost unusable. With trolls, with
> insults, with straight-lines, with idiocy, with three-word responses,
> with lies, and even with an occasional worthwhile point, he has
> buried any signal that there might have been under an avalanche of
> noise.
>As might have been expected, not unlike the little child whose parents
>have wisely decided to ignore behaviour that is nothing more than
>disruptive attention-seeking, the troll – having long ago worn out his
>welcome and proven beyond all shadow of a doubt that (even if he did
>have something useful to contribute) his obviously non-existent
>self-esteem precludes his engaging in civilized factual rational
>discourse – proceeds to throw a major temper tantrum in response:
> I can and will come in under another name that is not killfiled. You
> folks have proven yourselves so freaking dumb that I can do anything
> I want to show what idiots you are.
> [Message-ID: <[email protected]>]
>This, of course, is not in the least surprising. One can hardly wait
>for him to reinvent himself! But it is in complete contradiction to
>his “words of wisdom” in his recent response to a post of Mr.
>Morrison:
> As long at (sic) you folks continue to post about me I will respond.
> The longer the post the long (sic) my tagline will be.
> [Message-ID: <[email protected]>]
>So I guess the lesson is we are damned if we do, and damned if we
>don’t – because he who will leave no post untrolled is bound and
>determined to get his daily dose of attention one way or another.
>If he weren’t so pathetically ignorant and redundantly boring, this
>would be almost amusing!
>hro
>=======================
>Hilary Ostrov
>e-mail: [email protected]
>http://haven.uniserve.com/~hostrov/
>Co-Webmaster – The Nizkor Project http://www.almanac.bc.ca/
Right on, fat broad. Do you have do clean up McVay with your lips also?
What a stupid and fat broad.
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Subject: What a clever way to kill people
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:48:00 GMT
“PAUL WALDMANN: In this small room [at Sachsenhausen] there was a slot
in the wall,
approximately 50 centimeters in length. The prisoner of war stood with
the back of his head
against the slot and a sniper shot at him from behind the slot. In
practice this arrangement did not
prove satisfactory, since the sniper often missed the prisoner. After 8
days a new arrangement
was made. The prisoner, as before, was placed against the wall; an iron
plate was then slowly
lowered onto his head. The prisoner was under the impression that he was
being measured for
height. The iron plate contained a ramrod which shot out suddenly and
poleaxed the prisoner with
a blow on the back of the head. He dropped dead. The iron plate was
operated by a foot lever in
a corner of the room. ”
IMT VII – p. 377.
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Such mastery of the English Language!
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>>[email protected] (John Morris) wrote:
>[snip]
>>>> But you know that. Rather you would ignore that point and slander me
>>>>like the holohugger you really are.
>>>Still name-calling. I see.
>> Holohugger is a legitimate acronym […]
>One wonders when we are due to be enlightened as to the expansion of
>each letter of the word “holohugger”. Then again, I suppose if one
>were to find the mythical dictionary containing the definition of
>”paupacy”, one would no doubt find that the word “acronym” has a
>completely different meaning to that which all reasonable people
>understand.
If you are interested in the dictionary it is right there before
fatbroad.
The only way you got your title is by laying McVay and you know it. You
have no other qualifications.
You contribute nothing.
You accept only sperm from a thing.
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Rampant Irony Deficiency Alert
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, mg*[email protected]*x.netcom.com wrote:
>>
>> The folks complaining about appropriate posts and spamming and the like
>>are engaging in a debate on operating systems right here and completely
>>off topic.
>Poor little troll, so irony-challenged and jealous!
>hro
Nice try, fatbroad.
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Another gas chamber
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:52:14 GMT
Guess what? I found a gas chamber in the old Reich. I have also found
powdered cyanide.
“Inside the showerbath [ at Dachau]- the gas vents. On the ceiling- the
dummy shower heads. In
the engineers’ room- the intake and outlet pipes. Push buttons to
control inflow and outtake of
gas. A hand-valve to regulate pressure. Cyanide powder was used to
generate the lethal smoke.
From the gas chamber, the bodies were removed to the crematory. ”
IMT XXX – p.470.
Amazing what you can find if you look around.
And holohuggers are going to believe it.
>=======================
>Hilary Ostrov
>e-mail: [email protected]
>http://haven.uniserve.com/~hostrov/
>Co-Webmaster – The Nizkor Project http://www.almanac.bc.ca/
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From: [email protected] (Rich Graves)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Such mastery of the English Language!
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[email protected] writes:
>[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>>In <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>Still name-calling. I see.
>
>>> Holohugger is a legitimate acronym […]
>
>>One wonders when we are due to be enlightened as to the expansion of
>>each letter of the word “holohugger”. Then again, I suppose if one
>>were to find the mythical dictionary containing the definition of
>>”paupacy”, one would no doubt find that the word “acronym” has a
>>completely different meaning to that which all reasonable people
>>understand.
>
> If you are interested in the dictionary it is right there before
>fatbroad.
Giwer’s rigii have grown increasingly tortable and paupacious these days.
Isn’t the normal usage “fat broad”? Or is it now recognized as a compound
word?
– -rich
http://www.c2.org/~rich/
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Return of the Prodigal Poster – Faustian Follies?
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:03:45 GMT
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Ehrlich606)
>wrote:
>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Gord
>>McFee) writes:
>>>
>>>Really Mr. Ehrlich? Is the following from Mr. Giwer what this board is
>>>supposed to have on it?
>>>
>>>
>>Gord, the only difference between Hilary and Matt insofar as their
>>demeanor on this board is concerned, is that Hilary has mastered the
>>gentle art of insult, and Matt is much more earthy.
>Really, Mr. Ehrlich? Well, that you should have failed to notice any
>other differences is very telling. Indeed, it speaks volumes about
>you, your motivations and your “intellectual honesty” and integrity.
Fatbroad speaks again. A spokesrat for a site that censors what it does
not like. Quite amusing to be talking about integrity.
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From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Rampant Irony Deficiency Alert
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 09:13:54 GMT
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On Mon, 08 Jul 1996 06:58:59 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Nice try, fatbroad.
>Mr. Giwer continues to show respect for those with differing opinions.
>
>Sara
What is your problem, Schwartze?
Are you as fat as she is?
Whatever you would like.
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Eureka!
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In a recent post – sorry, it’s not really worth doing a search to find
>it – but suffice it to say, a certain prolific poster of prattle was
>kind enough to advise us of our failure to recognize his mission
>statement.
>It seems to me, that he has now provided us with an important clue to
>another oversight on our part. He has informed us that the word
>”holohugger” is an acronym. I initially came to the erroneous
>conclusion that while he was able to spell “acronym” correctly, he
>didn’t have a clue as to the meaning of the word. But of course, I
>had forgotten this poster’s omniscience.
>What he didn’t tell us, though, is that the acronym “holohugger” is,
>in fact, an anagram for the acronym HELGOOHURG (Healthy Educated
>Literate Genteel Observer Of History Unravelling “Revisionist”
>Gambits). Recognizing that he is profoundly deficient in _all_ the
>qualities necessary to be a helgoohurg, and perhaps a little jealous,
>he proffers *his* acronym instead.
>There it is, folks! Another gambit unravelled!
>Hilary “helgoohurg and proud!”
>=======================
>Hilary Ostrov
>e-mail: [email protected]
>http://haven.uniserve.com/~hostrov/
>Co-Webmaster – The Nizkor Project http://www.almanac.bc.ca/
Nice try, fat broad.
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From: “Richard J. Green”
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: STANFORD U participating in email harrassment
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>At 02:11 AM 6/22/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>> This one came through five minutes after the post demonstrating that
>>>Greenies bot on the server is supported by Stanford University and they
>>>will do nothing to stop this email harrassment.
>>
>>> That makes Stanford University the same piece of harrassing shit that is
>>>Greenie is.
>>
>>> Of course copies are being sent to root and if there is no response I
>>>will persue the Stanford web site as far as necessary to to inform them
>>>of his use of their computers for the purpose of email harrassment.
>>
>>> He thinks he is being clever. Rather he is making Stanford U a party to
>>>his harrassment.
> Very clearly here is the problem.
> You have a Richard J. Green who claims to be in your Chemistry
>Department.
> He has a bot set up so that any mention of his posts by me in
>alt.revisionism results in email to me.
> This is a form of harrassment. I expect it to stop immediately.
> I will pursue this as high as possible if it does not cease.
> I hope I am making myself clear. I will go to the accreditation
>board if necessary. I know what I am doing.
> I will send you all of the evidence needed upon request. I have no
>interest in flooding you at this time. But this will stop.
>—————————————————————
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Subject: What a clever way to kill people
From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:48:00 GMT
“PAUL WALDMANN: In this small room [at Sachsenhausen] there was a slot
in the wall,
approximately 50 centimeters in length. The prisoner of war stood with
the back of his head
against the slot and a sniper shot at him from behind the slot. In
practice this arrangement did not
prove satisfactory, since the sniper often missed the prisoner. After 8
days a new arrangement
was made. The prisoner, as before, was placed against the wall; an iron
plate was then slowly
lowered onto his head. The prisoner was under the impression that he was
being measured for
height. The iron plate contained a ramrod which shot out suddenly and
poleaxed the prisoner with
a blow on the back of the head. He dropped dead. The iron plate was
operated by a foot lever in
a corner of the room. ”
IMT VII – p. 377.
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From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Nazis NOT racist NOR antisemitic!
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On Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:28:47 GMT, [email protected] (Hilary Ostrov)
wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Matt
>Giwer) wrote:
>>On 13 Jul 1996 14:42:25 GMT, Nele Abels
>> wrote:
>[snip]
>>>>You either failed or did not take Political science.
>>>>You descriptive charcteristics are of the NSDAP, not of the
>>>>concept of national socialism. Why are you so slow?
>>>The appropriate question is: Why is Mr. Giwer so dense? Does he
>>>give any reason, why the characteristics of the NSDAP should _not_
>>>be the characteristics of national socialism? NO. Does he quote
>>>any historian who puts forward this thesis? NO. Does he give
>>>_anything_ remotedly looking like a qualified answer? NO.
>> When you mature you will learn to think for yourself, maybe. Probably
>>not though, you are too thoroughly a holohugger.
>The troll once again demonstrates his inability to respond rationally
>or with civility – or to acknowledge yet another defeat.
>In addition, the troll – who has yet to demonstrate any ability to
>think for himself (or for anyone else) – continues to delude himself
>by tedious name-calling. The troll mistakenly, but transparently,
>attributes to his opponent his own failures and ineptitude.
Listen up, fatbroad. there is exacly nothing on Nizkor that deserves
anyone being called a webmaster much less you.
You are worthless in the www community. Get over it.
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From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: Giwer is a moron beyond words… (was McVay, never a Marine…)
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On Sun, 21 Jul 1996 20:09:10 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>(Matt Giwer) wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:53:21 -0700, [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> >(Matt Giwer) wrote:
>>
>> >[stuff deleted]
>>
>> >> But you harrassed a fellow Marine in his 80s and very close
>to the end
>> >> just to get my phone number.
>>
>> >Not to speak for Mr. McVay, but you have not substantiated this claim in
>> >any aspect.
>>
>> I have no interest in anything but making it public.
>”He who makes a claim bears the responsibility of supporting it.” (Matt Giwer)
>”Never debate, only attack.” (Matt Giwer)
>”He who makes a claim bears the responsibility of supporting it.” (Matt Giwer)
>”Never debate, only attack.” (Matt Giwer)
>”He who makes a claim bears the responsibility of supporting it.” (Matt Giwer)
>”Never debate, only attack.” (Matt Giwer)
It sounds very familiar, fatbroad.
From [email protected] Wed Jun 12 10:37:32 PDT 1996
Article: 42840 of alt.revisionism
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From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Kids Stay Cozy in Gas Chambers
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[email protected] (Hilary Ostrov) wrote:
>In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Matt
>Giwer) wrote:
>[snip]
>> The true truth depends only upon the story the huggers wants to tell.
>> You would think at some point they would be bright enough to refrain
>>from telling contradictory stories.
>The Giwer-troll, speaking for the umpteenth time from his position of
>profound willful ignorance, demonstrates that he is capable of
>controlling his keyboard sufficiently to post two sentences without a
>typo. Yet he continues to induce terminal boredom in all but the
>ignorant societal misfits whose admiration and approbation he so
>desparately seeks.
>You would think at some point he would be bright enough to realize
>that he would be much better off if he were to refrain from all his
>useless wastes of bandwidth.
>But, ever true to his motto, he leaves no post untrolled.
>Amazing, simply amazing!
You are the one who claimed regex was a search engine, dumb broad. One
could also presume you are fat, very fat, as in soap material.
From what I have read it appears you are laying this Jamie character to
get this “co-” reference. But it is clear you know only marginally less
than he.
