Giwer, controv 4-1994

EM> MG> You have never thought it through if you think you can do
EM> MG> it. I have had two doctors try to do it and fail.

EM> Failed by whose measure? Yours? How closely does YOUR
EM> definition of addiction mesh with the definition accepted
EM> by the medical communities?

Their own admission of failure. I do not have a definition
and I hold there is none that does not specifically say drugs in
the definition and thus it is circular.

EM> MG> I assure you that you can not define addiction in a manner
EM> MG> that will apply only to “drugs.”

EM> Why play word games, Matt? Who cares whether or not
EM> someone can play out your games to your satisfaction? You
EM> won’t win the core argument by trying to sidetrack the
EM> debate.
EM>
EM> Tobacco is clearly a drug that meets the classical clinical
EM> definition of addiction in what it does to its users. If
EM> you disagree, please state your case plainly and stick to
EM> the subject.

As you can not define addiction it can not satisfy the
definition.

But if you want my case, you are presuming being able to
describe tobacco with a term you neither understand nor can
define means something. I hold it can only mean something to
sloppy thinkers.

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From: Matt Giwer Area: Controv – (1331)
To: Ed Mathis 27 Apr 94 22:18:10
Subject: Smoking


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From: Matt Giwer Area: Controv – (1394)
To: Bill Bauer 27 Apr 94 21:18:10
Subject: 02:RACHEL: Cancer Injusti

BB> Figure 1 shows cancer rates (both incidence and death) for
BB> blacks compared to the same rates among whites during the
BB> period 1985-1989. (What is shown is the ratio of black
BB> rates to white rates; in other words, it shows black rates
BB> divided by white rates.) The bars on the left show the
BB> ratio of incidence rates and the bars on the right show the
BB> ratio of death rates (labeled “mortality”).

When it talks incidence it is an indicator of the
susceptibility differences between the two races. It has no
other meaning.


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From: Matt Giwer Area: Controv – (1397)
To: Preston Simpson 27 Apr 94 16:46:10
Subject: Clinton’s Serb Script

PS> MG> Bill Clinton’s statements to the Serbs are based upon
PS> MG> Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
PS> MG>
PS> MG> “None shall pass!”

PS> The only thing that really hacks me off about this
PS> country’s treatment of the Serbian situation is our
PS> saber-rattling. We’ve made a few airstrikes, but we
PS> haven’t done anything conclusive. Clinton needs to learn
PS> that just standing behind a podium and making threats is
PS> not going to stop ANYONE, and that if he’s really serious
PS> about flattening the bad guys, he’d better quit talking
PS> about it and just do it.

It is fun to kill people. Just ask Billie Jeff. As we have
no purpose or objective there (the UN may or may not) we have no
business being there.

PS> However, I am not in support of the United States alone
PS> getting involved. The UN was founded to put a stop to the
PS> kind of mess that’s going on in what used to be
PS> Yugoslavia, and they need to go in there and do it,
PS> instead of the US playing the cowboy in the white hat.

I am not aware the UN has an issue in Bosnia either. I know
of no place in its charter where it says there shall be no war.
The UN and the US for that matter screwed up royally recognizing
all the new little countries before the dust had settled. Now
they have not the wisdom to recognize a diplomatic error.

And in a practical sense most wars are over with before the
UN can get its act together. You don’t see the UN jumping into
Rwanda do you?


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From: Matt Giwer Area: Controv – (1405)
To: Dave Hankins 27 Apr 94 16:54:10
Subject: revolution

DH> MG>One Swell Foop
DH> MG> by
DH> MG> Matt Giwer (c) 1994 <4/24>

DH> Damn fine piece, Matt. I hate to cut it up, but you rang
DH> some of my bells and I feel the urge to comment.

As we agree the quote you provide is appropriate.

DH> “I offer neither pay, nor quarters, nor provisions; I
DH> offer hunger, thirst, forced marches, battles and
DH> death. Let he who loves freedom with his heart and
DH> not his lips only, follow me.”

Consider it stolen.


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