Edeiken 1296 part 2, Edeiken Yale

> The criminal Giwer harasses an ISP:

> On 16 Dec 1996 03:23:10 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> the criminal Giwer writes:
> >> On 15 Dec 1996 03:02:35 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
wrote:

> >> Again the lying boozing kike shyster fears reporting the “crime” to
> >> legal authorities but insists upon the pecularly JEW harrassment of
> >> innocent parties to achieve their aims.

> >> Is it any wonder kikes are considered sneaky little bastards?

> > Aren’t you going to have fun explaining this to gte.net?

> Are you going to have fun explaining your starting all the name
> calling to enter.net?

> The poor, intimidated ethnic got in over his little head and now
> cries to mommy to protect him before he gets turned into a lampshade.
> What a whiney little kike.

The criminal Giwer forwarded this post, without other comment to
enter.net. Their reponse to me was “This fellow is harassing us by sending
multiple emails complaining about someone.”

What I have been explaining to enter.net is their legal options and the
correct procedure for stopping this harassment.

I still wonder if the criminal Giwer has read the “hold harmless” clause in
his contract with gte.net. I also wonder if he realizes what it means.

–YFE

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Of Course Blackmore Doesn’t call folks names
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> the criminal Giwer proves my point:
> On 13 Dec 1996 15:23:20 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (Tutu101) writes:
> >> Could this classify as another insult? Is this how you respond to a
> >> person who indicates a willingness to discuss matters peacefully. Ken
> >> Lewis words are highly provocative as well as insulting. From what I have
> >> read these many months, this is a typical response from Holocaust
> >> believers. Your use of insults and name calling will not win you many
> >> converts.

> > Have you told this to the criminal Giwer.

> The boozer is back. The pitiful kike shyster is still with us.
> Still doing his drunken dance to the light of the monitor. What a
> pathetic little kike.

Well “tutu” now that you have been given a sample of the criminal
Giwer’s ranting and raving, I repeat my question: have you told the criminal
Giwer?

–YFE

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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:

> And I was under the impression that Christmas is on 25th December.
> Am I wrong?

> Of course even if the office were closed early for the Christmas break,
> I am confident that such a question could be easily answered, even if
> one might need to wait until early in the new year for the answer.

If it is “Merrie Olde England” is not quite so “Merrie” as it used to be.
In the U.S. this season is prime time for DUIs.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: The Big “Mistake”
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 18 Dec 1996 19:10:18 -0500, [email protected] (Michael P.
> Stein) wrote:

> > Wrong again. The voice was identified by a listener, and there were
> >notes for the speech in Himmler’s handwriting, and we have other
> >confirmation that he gave a speech that day. So there are some positive
> >reasons to think the tape is real. You can listen to it yourself if you
> >have RealAudio capability – check Nizkor.

> > But if there is any charge of forgery, the claimant bears the burden
> >of bringing forward evidence that there was such forgery. Remember, the
> >tapes were found by Americans, not Soviets.

> > Still, if you’re so sure the tapes are doctored, why aren’t you
> >jumping at the chance to both embarrass Nizkor and make all of us take a
> >collective $2,000 bath? The offer is still on the table. Or are you not
> >as sure as you would like people to think?

> There exists no reason to disprove a tape untested for doctoring and
> genuineness and consequently worthless.

Wrong again, “Stele.”

The standards for the admission of a tape recording into evidence can
be found in U.S. v. Starks 515 F.2d 112 (3rd Circuit; 1975). According to that
case the identity of the speaker may be established through the testimony of a
witness who recognizes the voice on the tape. (Commonwealth v. Johnson 450
Pa. 575, 301 A.2d 632, 634 (1973) There is, as anybody can see from reading
those cases, no reason exists for a proponent to test “For doctoring.” That
burden lies on the person challenging the evidence.

Once more we discover that the little dog Stele has made the mistake
of believing his master’s voice (good doggie). Does he ever get tired of making a
fool of himself?

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re:the Criminal Giwer is Worthless
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> the criminal Giwer writes:
> On 16 Dec 1996 01:16:11 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > No. I’ve put them on notice about your criminal harassment of me and
> >my family and your clear violations of the terms of the user agreeement to
which
> >you consented. This post will. of course, also be forwarded to them.

> But of course you will lie by ommission as you have always been
> doing you miserable boozing, lying kike.

I have omitted nothing. Your actions were criminal harassment.
Several of your ISPs have agreed.

> You got in over your head, can’t handle it yourself, and now you
> are going to call on your mommy to protect you.

Ah, yes. Yolu are still posting from combase.com? Netcom.com?
Attworld.net? Cybergate.com?

> If you had the balls you would have filed a criminal complaint by
> now and exposed yourself to criminal charges for your perjuries.

The cowardly criminal Giwer who has been harassing my ISP now runs
to mommy. He claims he is being libelled and incites his pet dog “Stele” to
support him, yet he haasn’t the balls to protect his “rights.” He’d rather harass
Larry Corsa of enter.net.

> Act like a mensch for once in your life poor intimidated little
> ethnic.

You are a fool if you don’t read that “hold harmless” clause. You are
even a bigger fool if you rely on your limited legal knowledge to interpret it.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Jewish math: 6 million minus 2.5 million= 6million, of course!
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> > Apparently you command of English is fairly poor. The Poles called
> > the Poles “Poles.” Clearly one of the reasons they inflated the figure was to
> > maximize the appearance of Polish suffering. “Auschwitz without Jews” means
> > exactly that.

> > Nor is it a quibble. The fact is you lied and did so obnoxiously. And
> > have been even more obnoxious about it since you lie was exposed.

> Yale, you are full of it. In the book published by the same agency entitled
> “German crimes in Poland” it is specifically stated that the Poles were NOT
> part of those the Nazis allegedly tried to exterminate, but that they would have
> been the next. Did you say you are a lawyer? Public defender? God save us.-rb

So you state. Please quote the book. You ahve been caught fabricating
too often to take your statements at face value. Again, in the words of one
sociologist who has studied the Polish representations it is “Auschwitz without
Jews.”

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Jewish math: 6 million minus 2.5 million= 6million, of course!
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> the criminal Giwer writes:
> On 16 Dec 1996 00:58:22 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > The question was “testimony.” He never gave any such testimony at
> >the Nuremberg Tribunal or elsewhere. If you think otherwise provide a
citation.

> How could he have given such testimony as he was acquitted of that
> charge?

What the hell are you talking about. Hoess was a *defense* witness
at Nuremberg. I realize your knowledge of the law is limited and distorted but
even you must know that a witness cannot be either “convicted” or
“acquitted.” He was tried by the Poles and convicted and hung.

I suggest you return to your handlers and try to get them to give you
some straight information for a change.

–YFE

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> [email protected] (tom moran) writes:

> > The Allies sat back and acquiesced.

> “Silence is consent.”

As a matter of fact they did not sit back and acquiesce. I suggest you
read Telford Taylor’s fine book “The Anatomy of the Nuremberg Trials” A full
account was previously posted when the criminal Giwer insisted that various
Germans were executed after being convivted for the Katyn massacre. That, of
course, was a lie.

–YFE

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Subject: Re: T. Moran: Unamerican
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> [email protected] (tom moran) writes:

> >> On 21 Dec 1996 11:12:25 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
wrote:

> >> > Where could l’il tommy be hiding this time?

> >> > Could it be behind the drapes in the dining room?

> > Unfortunately he made the challenge for me to prove it.

> Thank you for recollecting the situation correctly. Now prove it.

O.K. I will prove it. Let us take the question to an impartial tribunal.
You know the conditions.

> Forget about all the talk of Moran turning himself in.

There has been no such talk except from you. Your cover is wearing
thin.

> Really, could you picture Moran going down to some authority and
> turning himself in? ‘Ah sir, I would like to turn myself in for
> anti-Semitism’.

Nor has anybody asked you to do so. You have repeatedly challenged
me to prove it. You do so again in this post. “I am willing to do so. I an wanting
to do so. I am waiting to do so.” You on the other hand, are running away.

> > Apparently you are calling l’il tommy a liar.

And a bigot.

And a coward.

And I am willing to prove it.

Congratulations l’il tommy. Your (or, for you, should I write “you’re”?)
reading skills are improving.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer III
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> [email protected] (Chris Carpenter) writes:
> On 22 Dec 1996 01:06:50 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> > Sure. Like it or not it is fairly easy to purify water. You boil it. About
five
> >minutes does the trick.
> Except when it has dead stuff in it. Then its called soup.

> Yale, still researching Chief Rabbi Reichorn.

Perhaps this will help:

1. In 1818 the Napoleonic system where Jews in France were
subject to a single authority — called a consistory — was altered.

2. From 1818 through 1905 there were four independent
“consistories” each have its own geographic area.

3. The last “Chief Rabbi” from the days of a single consistory, named
Druetze, died in 1842.

4. Two of the consistories (Morocco and southwest France)
contained primarily Sephardic Jews. One of the reasons for the four consistories
was that Sepharidc Jews would not accept the representation by a chief who
was Ashkenazic.

5. One of the reasons given for the change in the system in 1905
was to establish the office of “chief rabbi.”

None of this, of course, means that Reichhorn did not exist or was not
a rabbi. It does however raise some suspicions.

–YFE

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> [email protected] (Fergus McClelland) writes:

> Restored paragraph:
> >>I suggest you consult a real lawyer instead of the criminal
> >>Giwer. You know, the bum who hasn’t even the guts to file suit against
against
> >>someone he claims is defaming him.
> >> But you keep saying that Mr Giwer has committed criminal acts against

> >> you, yet you have not filed a complaint. Is that not the same?
> Mr Edeiken

> > And your basis for saying that is?

> You should not have edited out your own previous paragraph, that way
> you would have understood what I was saying.

I understood the question perfectly:

And your basis for saying that is?

You mean you were silly enough to *believe* that silly email message
>from the criminal Giwer?

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer III
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> [email protected] writes:

> Danny you are wrong. Re-read my post and the testimony. For the first week
> water came from units attached to the British army field kitchens and supplies.–rb

Yes but you were lying. The water for the first week was *transported* by
British water carts. The testimony was that the water they transported came from the
river. Of course, your lie is still irrelevant.

Or are you going to now tell us that that the water in the river suddenly
became potable one week after the British arrived?

Isn’t it time you gave up the ghost on this? You are just making a fool of
yourself.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer III
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> > As far as the pollutants you describe are concerned, boiling is all that
> > is needed. Or are you now going to tell us that there was chemical waste
in the
> > water that suddenly disappeared when the pumping started? Perhaps you
> > would be good enough to tell us what kind of “filters” could be effective
against
> > such pollutants and how the locals (who were using water from the river)
> > acquired their immunity.

> Yale, as usual you are full of it. the text clearly reads that water was pumped
in
> by British field units and a week later the water was introduced from the river.

They transported in water from the river.

> If you knew anything about camping and the potability of water, you would
see that
> one must take measures to filter the water before drinking.

Absolute nonsense. Please provide a reference.

> Many harmful bacteria in
> water may not be killed simply by boiling. I will wager that you never went
“roughing it”
> in the wild in your entire armchair, ez boy life.–rb

I will wager that you never read a book on emergency health
measures. *All* bacteria can be killed by boiling water.

Now you are giwering us with fake “science.”

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer Repost 1
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> [email protected] writes:

> Mike–you simply need to stop all this distorting and running to the
> defense of your colleagues when they are clearly wrong. Most untreated
> river water is undrinkable.

Nonsense.

> Water was vrought into Belsen for the first
> week from British Field Units.

Wrong. In the testimony you snipped it was stated that the water was
brought in *by* British field units.

> Of this river water is so potable, why wasn’t the
> British army drinking it?

What makes you think that they were not?

> A week later, they figured out a way to pump water into
> the camp for showering, cleaning, etc. Any water which was to be used for
human
> consumption, had first to be treated and filtererb

This is your invention. The testimony — which you deleted for obvious
reasons, stated otherwise. Indeed the question as to whether the water was
“potable” was asked and answered in the affirmative.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Jewish math: 6 million minus 2.5 million= 6million, of course!
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> > Are you denying that made that statement?

> > Apparently the challenge is that you cannot explain your lie.

> I can explain your posts: You are an attorney,–rb

Now try my question.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Criminal Giwer Demonstrates His Lies
Date: 24 Dec 1996 05:14:53 GMT
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> the criminal Giwer spews his filth:
> On 23 Dec 1996 02:28:54 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > Apparently I read somewhat better than you. For the first five days the
> >water was trucked to the camp in water “carts.” This does not mean that
the
> >water did not come from the local area. In fact, it would seem tol indicate
that it
> >was.

> >> A week later, water was pumped it. However, it did need to
> >> be filtered.

> > This is an invention on your part (actually the criminal Giwer invented it
> >and you adopted it). Moreover since the testimony was that the equipment
> >found at the camp was used to obtain water from the river any “filters” that
were
> >used were available to the murderer Kramer.

> > As far as the pollutants you describe are concerned, boiling is all that
> >is needed. Or are you now going to tell us that there was chemical waste in
the
> >water that suddenly disappeared when the pumping started? Perhaps you
> >would be good enough to tell us what kind of “filters” could be effective
against
> >such pollutants and how the locals (who were using water from the river)
> >acquired their immunity.

To which the Criminal Giwer responded:

> Da widdle intimidate ethnic wears its ugwy head and cwys it will be
> a wampshade.

> Revisionists are sneaky bastards, always relying on facts and figures.

Based on these writings one of two things is true:

1. the Criminal Giwer’s foul outburst contains facts and figures

2. The Criminal Giwer is a liar.

Anybody who believes #1 is invited to come forward and publically
demonstrate their stupidity.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Criminal Giwer Puts His Foot in it Again
Date: 23 Dec 1996 04:30:36 GMT
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> the criminal Giwer lies again:
> On Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:50:05 -0500, [email protected] (Sara aka
> Perrrfect) wrote:

> >In article <[email protected]>, Matt Giwer ([email protected]),
> >too much of a coward to use his own name and pretending to be
> >[email protected] wrote:

> >> The boozing, lying kike shyster misrepresents events one more time.
> >> But then, what else is expected from an intimidated ethnic. They lose
> >> all control when intimidated.

> >OOOhhhhhh… an “intimidated ethnic!”

> >Mr. Giwer, please lay off the Sterno. The fumes have definitely reached
> >what little grey matter you might have once had.

> Your fellow boozing ethnic made the claim that he was intimidated.
> If you have a problem with that, as do I, call him a liar for saying
> he was an intimidated ethnic.

> Now get back to your hovel until you can afford a nose job.
The criminal Giwer lies again. The title of the statute was “Ethnic
Intimidation.” As anyone with a reasonable comprehension of English language (I
exempt the criminal Giwer from this category) who has read the statute knows,
actual intimidation need not be claimed. He is, as usual lying, with this claim.

Perhaps the criminal Giwer should practice his reading comprehension
skills. I suggest he start with the “hold harmless” clause in the contract he has with
gte.net.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: CHARGES
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 21 Dec 1996 11:12:25 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > But l’il tommy knows that this is not the case. I am very willing to prove
> >the charge of anti-Semitism before an impartial tribunal. To this offer l’il tommy
has,
> >when he has not lied about, refused to respond. l’il tommy, who frequently
wraps
> >himself in the American flag when he parades his bigotry, apparently does not
believe
> >in that most basic of American values, the fair trial.

> > When l’il tommy reads this statement he will, as usual, run for cover.

> > Where could l’il tommy be hiding this time?

> > Could it be behind the drapes in the dining room?

> Rather Moran has little inclination or need to defend against your
> promiscuous, Pavlovian, and predictable “revisionism=anti-Semitism”
> charges Yalie-poo.

Unfortunately he made the challenge for me to prove it.

Apaprently you are calling l’il tommy a liar.

Good dog, “Stele.” Thank you for agreeing with me.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Giwer Criminal is Caught Again
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 19 Dec 1996 02:00:21 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> I see. So if a person’s e-mail saying “Fuck off” offends you one
> should be able to prosecute them under criminal law. Like I said,
> what a kike.

After being directed not send me further e-mail: absolutely.

> >The criminal Giwer decided to use criminal harassment as one of his
weapons. That
> >he is being brought to book for those acts is my privilege as a victim of those
> >crimes.

> Giwer has never been “brought to book” because you are too much of a
> cowardly, whining, gutless shyster Yale to charge him.

And your basis for saying this is?

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: The Fuhrer’s Gaze (Thank You, ourhero!)
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > > [email protected] writes:

> > > You’re barking up the wrong tree, Rover.
As I said many times over,
> > > I am not anti-Semitic.

> > “I am not a crook.” Richard M. Nixon

> > > Just by your implying it does not make it so.

> > No but posting anti-Semitic drivel you have written makes a fairly
> > conclusive argument — especially when you have refused to address the
issue.

> Adress what issue, Yale? What is it you would like me to address to
> assauge your suspicions?

Perhaps I missed it. Gord McFee has frequently posted anti-Semitic
comments and doggerel you sent to Harold Covington. To date the only
response I have seen from you has been flippant one-liners.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: The Criminal Giwer Makes a Fool of Himself
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> The criminal Giwer takes time off from harassing ISPs to rave:
> On 21 Dec 1996 12:52:05 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> > I have told you before. I want an impartial forum. This is called, in
> >American terms, a “fair trial.” Apparently you have no real grasp of the
concept. I
> >want the right to present my evidence before an unbiased person or panel and
have
> >a decision made as to whether I am correct or not. I am even willing to pay for
that
> >privilege if I am wrong (as long as you make the same commitment).

> Considering you claim the IMT was a fair trial

As do all but a few nutcases. Please note that although the criminal
Giwer has repeatedly claimed the IMT was *not* a fair trial he continually refuses
to provide any specifications of how it was unfair. In fact, he has several times
lied about what happened at the trial.

> > The person quivering in fear is you. Specifically you mess your pants at
the
> >thought of:

> You are a quivering cowardly kike boozer, unmarried, no children,
> pretending to be an attorney. You are very sick and very jewish.

Have you checked that “hold harmless” clause yet?

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: “Let her lie, why do you care?”
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> [email protected] writes:
> > Chuck Ferree writes:

> > We all have read so many of your lies, nothing you write means doodly
> > squat. We all know you are just another anti-jewish, anti allied
> > pro-Nazi dipstick. Get a life, pal.

> If you would take a little time to do somw research and reading you might
> learnsomething.

One of things he will learn is how you distort and misrepresent.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: ‘Let them die, why should you care?’
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> [email protected] writes:

> > You posted this claim a dozen times. Every time I asked you
> > to provide any evidence whatsoever for it, and every time
> > you have declined. You have also failed to address the fact
> > that the shrunken heads are mentioned in an official
> > correspondence between Nazi officials.

> I believe you were indeed provided with a reference. As to the
> alleged correspondence, I can only say that it must be another forgery.
> You may find evidence of these forgeries in the biography of Lucius
> B. Clay, where he freely admitted that these horror pieces were frauds.–rb

I have the relevant pages of Clay’s autobiography in front of me. (Page
254) He makes no such statement complaining only: “Perhaps I erred in judgment
[in commuting Koch’s sentence] but no one can share the responsibility of a
reviewing officer. Later the Senate committee which unanimously criticized this
action heard witnesses who gave testimony not contained in the record before me.
I could only take action on that record.”

So much for “blackmore’s’ statement.

–YFE

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> the Criminal Giwer writes:
> On 16 Dec 1996 01:46:43 GMT, [email protected] (Gord McFee) wrote:

> >:>On 14 Dec 1996 04:39:12 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
wrote:

> >:>> No. I need only prove that the criminal Giwer has violated the
criminal
> >:>>laws. he has done so. He has, in fact, admitted to the acts which are
violation
> >:>>of the criminal laws. I suggest you consult a real lawyer instead of the
criminal
> >:>>Giwer. You know, the bum who hasn’t even the guts to file suit against
against
> >:>>someone he claims is defaming him. He, at least, is smart enough to
know that
> >:>>truth would be a defense.

> >:> Fucking, lying kike. You lying drunken cowardly jew.

> >:> This is the kind of lie expected from jews. You are demonstrating
> >:>one of the many reason you are hated. You are liars.

> >My heavens, I guess Mr. Edeiken struck a raw nerve to deserve that
outburst.
> >It’s the normal response from the drunken troll Giwer whenever someone
hits
> >close to home. IOW, Giwer is admitting that he has violated the criminal
> >laws.

> >Of course, the cowardly drunken troll Giwer could settle all this be hauling
> >Mr. Edeiken and me into court, but like his friend Stele/Smith (the friend of
> >the Freeman brothers), he is too spineless to put his money where his mouth
> >is.

> Rather, McFly, you are demonstrating just what a boozing, lying,
> kike shyster the intimidated ethnic really is.

Indeed. I have posted several times the messages sent to me after
you warned not to do so. You have admitted sending them. There is really
nothing to debate.

Your are a criminal.

But you know that.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> > But that does not even come close to satisfying the basic point. The
> > allegation that there was no potable water available is pure fabrication.
The
> > British took over the camp and supplied potable water using the equipment
> > available. You can wiggle and squirm all you want. The only difference
between
> > the murderous Kramer and the British was that the British did not want to
see
> > innocent people die.

> I have to ask if you are so dense that you cannot read English, allegedly
> being an attorney and all. What the testimony clearly states is that for the
> first week, water was supplied to the camp by British field units, which traveled
> with the british army.

Apparently I read somewhat better than you. For the first five days the
water was trucked to the camp in water “carts.” This does not mean that the
water did not come from the local area. In fact, it would seem tol indicate that it
was.

> A week later, water was pumped it. However, it did need to
> be filtered.

This is an invention on your part (actually the criminal Giwer invented it
and you adopted it). Moreover since the testimony was that the equipment
found at the camp was used to obtain water from the river any “filters” that were
used were available to the murderer Kramer.

> There are some waters which you cannot simply boil and then ingest.
> Obviously you haven’t done much camping–Belsen camping or otherwise.–rb

As far as the pollutants you describe are concerned, boiling is all that
is needed. Or are you now going to tell us that there was chemical waste in the
water that suddenly disappeared when the pumping started? Perhaps you
would be good enough to tell us what kind of “filters” could be effective against
such pollutants and how the locals (who were using water from the river)
acquired their immunity.

You fabrications are now reaching laughable proportions.

–YFE

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> [email protected] (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
> Gordie McFee saz:

> >It would be interesting to see Mr. Giwer document Dr. Keren’s “lies”, since it
> >is known to everyone in this newsgroup that Giwer has indeed been booted
from
> >4 ISPs this year.

> I suspect the figure is soon to increment by one, Gordie… the
> troll loses again…

> “I can and will come in under another name that is not killfiled. You
> folks have proven yourselves so freaking dumb that I can do anything I
> want to show what idiots you are.” (Matt Giwer, June 13, 1996)

Perhaps. But then again remember that the criminal Giwer relies on his
own legal opinions. He still hasn’t figured out what the “hold harmless” clause
means.

–YFE

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> [email protected] the criminal Giwer vomits:
> On 24 Dec 1996 17:04:46 -0000, [email protected] (Derek Bell) wrote:

> >Matt Giwer, posting as [email protected] (John Yaya) writes:
> >> Fucking kowardly kike. It only kills moslems when it has a mob
> >>behind it.

> > Please provide evidence for the assertion that Yale kills Muslims.
> >Else a public apology and retraction may be a very good idea.

> It says it is jewish. What else do such things do?

The jury is going to love this one.

__YFE

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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 23 Dec 1996 04:41:51 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> >The criminal Giwer decided to use criminal harassment as one of his
> >weapons. That
> >> >he is being brought to book for those acts is my privilege as a victim of
those
> >> >crimes.

> >> Giwer has never been “brought to book” because you are too much of a
> >> cowardly, whining, gutless shyster Yale to charge him.

> > And your basis for saying this is?

> You’re too much of a gutless twerp to file charges, lying shyster.

Apparently you believe the criminal Giwer.

Hint: Ask him about his recent telephone conversation with gte.net.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: ‘Let them die, why should you care?’
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> [email protected] (Charles Power) writes:
> [email protected] (Doc Benway) writes:

> > Amazing really. POWs starved at Andersonville but their civilians
> >were well fed also. And no one claims (for at least the last 70
> >years) that it was a death camp.

> As I recall, the Prussian-born commandant of Andersonville was hanged
> for his mistreatment of prisoners, including their murder by systematic
> brutality, malnutrition and exposure. Is my memory playing tricks on me?

It’s not. There was a very good made-for-tv thing which recreated the
trial about a decade ago. I think William Shatner was in it.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Mr. Giwer’s mailbomb
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> [email protected] the Criminal Giwer caught harassing innocent pe3ople with his trash
states::
> On 23 Dec 1996 14:37:52 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> >> > You amy also be assured that when the criminal Giwer is complaining
> >> >about someone else, it usually indicates that he is doing it himself. There
are
> >> >many examples of this. When the criminal Giwer was threatening
extra-legal
> >> >”unspecified penalties” against Nizkor because of a phone call to his
father
> >> >asking the whereabouts of the criminal Giwer, the criminal Giwer was
> >harassing
> >> >me and my family.

> >> > The criminal Giwer now complains about gte being “harassed.” He
> >> >does not state that he has been harassing providers. I received an e-mail
> >today
> >> >from Larry Corsa at enter.net which stated:

> >> > “This fellow is harassing us by sending multiple emails complaining
> >> >about someone.

> >> > “Anything we can do about this?”

> >> Da poor widdle lying bastard kike is so intimidated it keeps on
> >> lying.

> >> What a piece of kikedom.

> > Anybody interested in proving the criminal Giwer’s harassment and that
> >his denial is pure prevarication to themselves may check with
[email protected]
> >Enter.net has also complained to gte.net.

> The little intimidated ethnic is whining again. Someone protect
> this little ethnic from being intimidated. It can’t take care of its
> widdle self. It’s so scared.

> Fucking kowardly kike. It only kills moslems when it has a mob
> behind it.

The criminal Giwer, caught in another lie, rants and raves. Please note
that the criminal Giwer does not deny that he anonymusly sent his filth to innocent
third parties. Moreover he does not deny their complaint that he did so repeatedly.

Again, the silence of his cohorts is defeaning.

–YFE

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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <[email protected]t> – [email protected] (Up
front) [i.e. the criminal Giwer trying to cover his tracks]
> writes:

> :> Van Alstain, another Mogen David boozer who can not help but lie
> :>like a kike.

> Poor old Matty. He must be so lonely.

> And he *loses* again.

Indeed, now he is sending his vitriol to total strangers.
And he doesn’t
even have the guts to put his name to it.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: No SS Man Was Ever Punished?
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> > It is, of course, even harder when the suspect has the right and
> > power to murder possible witnesses against him (as Koch did). Moreover
Koch
> > and the others were apparently protected by Eike. Many complaints by von
> > Waldeck were quashed without investigation.

> But Koch hanged in the end, didn’t he?–rb

I see your research is up to your usual standards. “On the last night of
his life in a prison cell in Buchenwald he [Koch] raved like a madman. The next
day he was taken to the courtyard, stood against a wall, and shot.” Segev
“Soldiers of Evil” (a book blackmore owns and has read); page 147.

–YFE
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: The Criminal Giwer Harasses Innocent People
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> the Criminal Giwer, caught harassing innocent people:
> On 24 Dec 1996 03:58:11 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> >> In message <[email protected]> –
[email protected] (Up
> >front) [i.e. the criminal Giwer trying to cover his tracks]
> >> writes:

> >> :> Van Alstain, another Mogen David boozer who can not help but lie
> >> :>like a kike.

> >> Poor old Matty. He must be so lonely.

> >> And he *loses* again.

> > Indeed, now he is sending his vitriol to total strangers. And he
doesn’t
> >even have the guts to put his name to it.

> Da po widdle intimidated etnic mouths off again.

No. I am telling the world that you anonymusly harassed some
people (their statement was posted) with your vitriolic hatred.

I hope you have a good explanation ready for the jury.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Fuhrer’s Gaze (Thank You, ourhero!)
Date: 22 Dec 1996 03:09:57 GMT
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> [email protected] writes:

> You’re barking up the wrong tree, Rover. As I said many times over,
> I am not anti-Semitic.

“I am not a crook.” Richard M. Nixon

> Just by your implying it does not make it so.

No but posting anti-Semitic drivel you have written makes a fairly
conclusive argument — especially when you have refused to address the issue.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: ‘Let them die, why should you care?’
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> >> the Criminal Giwer gives a sample of his lack of rational thought:
> >> On 23 Dec 1996 05:10:11 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> > I have the relevant pages of Clay’s autobiography in front of me. (Page
> >> >254) He makes no such statement complaining only: “Perhaps I erred in
> >judgment
> >> >[in commuting Koch’s sentence] but no one can share the responsibility of
a
> >> >reviewing officer. Later the Senate committee which unanimously criticized
this
> >> >action heard witnesses who gave testimony not contained in the record
before
> >me.
> >> > I could only take action on that record.”

> >> > So much for “blackmore’s’ statement.

> > To which the criminal Giwer decided to take time out from anonymusly
> >harassing strangers:

> >> Poor widdle intimidated ethnic speaks up when he hopes his mother
> >> is protecting him.

> > And then makes the laughable statement:

> >> Revisionists are sneaky bastards, always relying on facts and figures.

> > Perhaps the criminal Giwer will tell us what “facts” he relied upon for this.

> > Perhaps he had better figure something out quickly. Juries don’t like it
> >when you lie, Matty poo.

> Po widdle intimidate etnic. Everybody say AHHHHHHHHH!

Is that what you are going to tell the jury?

How pitiful.

–YFE
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: ‘Let them die, why should you care?’
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> [email protected] (Richard Schultz) writes:
> Prince Myshkin ([email protected]) wrote:
> : On 24 Dec 1996 05:52:26 GMT, [email protected] (Richard
> : Schultz) wrote:

> : >[email protected], posting under one of his numerous pseudonyms, wrote:

> : >: 10% per month – PER MONTH. I thought you would never get around to
> : >: posting that again.

> : >: And lets see, you have also posted that the total camp population
> : >: was around 3 million. So at 120% per year. . .

> : >In other words, what a maroon. Ultra-maroon, in fact.

> : Excuse me but the Keren Fairy can answer for itself for this
> : outrageous lie it has posted.

> Excuse me, O pseudonymous one, but 10% per month and 120% per year are
> not the same thing. Talk about innumerate — or perhaps just clueless.

Why are you surprised? Go back and look at the what this mathmatical
incompetent said about “average life expenctancy.” He thought it meant that all
would be dead when it ran out.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Jewish math: 6 million minus 2.5 million= 6million,
of course!
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> > d.A. wrote:

> > In fact the reader of this guide-book who is looking for a single
> > location where there is mention of 4 million Jewish victims
> > will be sorely disappointed.
> Stop fiddling around and tell the truth for probably the first time in your life.
> Don’t play games with people. they won’t like it. people don’t like to be played
> for fools. The overwhelming majority of inmates at Auschwitz were jews. Other
> nationalities perhaps comprised 10 % of the total inmate population, whether your
> book explicitly states so or not.==rb

The truth is not the proportion of Jews at Auschwitz but the
representations of the Polish government.

The figure on the memorial was inaccurate. Part of that inaccuracy was
done to promote an “Auschwitz without Jews.” Moreover, while the total of
prisoners over the life of the camp was predominently Jewish; th population at any
one time, was not. This is because Jews were gassed or otherwise murdered.

Why don’t you stop wiggling and admit that you you are doing no more
than attempting to justify a lie.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: The Criminal Giwer Hated the U.S.
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> [email protected] the Criminal Giwer, a traitor to his Country, spews::
> On 24 Dec 1996 04:06:09 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] the criminal Giwer traitorously writes:

> >> At the moment I can not give citations, I can only say that it was
> >> an interesting documentary on The History Channel one night. It also
> >> mentioned that prior to Germany finally being provoked into the
> >> declaration of war that US Naval vessels provided escorts for merchant
> >> ships. Have a little patience here and I will get around to proper
> >> citations.

> > Wow! the American navy provided protection fro American merchant
> >shipping. How could such perfidy have gone unpunished?

> >> Yes there was clearly US provocation of war with Germany by a
> >> violation of neutrality. Yes the US did protect its merchant ships
> >> that were engaged in violating that neutrality. And in protecting
> >> them it did sink Germany submarines.

> > Wow! The American navy decided to shoot at people who decided to
> >attack American ships. Those fools obviously did not know the purpose of the
> >American navy.

> > Next the criminal Giwer will tell us that the basic purpose of American
> >police forces is to provide employment for workers at Dunkin’ Donuts.

> Da widdle fuckin intimidated ethnic kike speaks up. Wow! IT does
> have hind wegs.

Apparently the criminal Giwer has no answer.

Unfortunately the jury will be composed of American citizens.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: The Fuhrer’s Gaze (Thank You, ourhero!)
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 23 Dec 1996 04:39:21 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote to
“blackmore”:

> >> > No but posting anti-Semitic drivel you have written makes a fairly
> >> > conclusive argument — especially when you have refused to address the
> >issue.

To which he responded:

> >> Adress what issue, Yale? What is it you would like me to address to
> >> assauge your suspicions?

> > Perhaps I missed it. Gord McFee has frequently posted anti-Semitic
> >comments and doggerel you sent to Harold Covington. To date the only
> >response I have seen from you has been flippant one-liners.

> Prove that rb “sent it” to Harold Covington as opposed to Harold
> taking it from usenet. You wouldn’t be just -assuming- this to try
> to smear rb as “anti-semitic” ™ would you?

That is for “blackmore” to explain. So far he has not. I am assuming
nothing. I am reading the header on the communication and asking for an
explanation. To date “blackmore” has supplied none.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: “Air Photo Evidence” – Treblinka
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> [email protected] (tom moran) writes:

> >> Show where Moran said “there were no buildings whatsoever”, or
> >>even anything even close. Your failure to show it will be your
> >>indictment.
> >> Does Moran mention any buildings for Treblinka in his post, “Air
> >>Photo Evidence” – Treblinka, Mr.Keren?

To which Mike Curtis responded:

> >Let me quote Moran’s prior post.

> >” No. There was no rebellion. There were no buildings. There are
> >no
> >signs of there ever being any buildings, other than what is shown in
> >the 1944 photo.”
>
> Mr.Curtis, what is your point?

Perhaps his point is that the statement “There were no buildings.”
means that “There were no buildings.” Perhaps you would like to. once more,
display you ineptitude with the English language, and try to conjure another
meaning for that statement from thin air.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A Nazi asks about the Talmud (Sara?)
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> > I suggest that you add to your extensive library:

> > “The Talmud: A Reference Guide” by Adin Steinsaltz. It runs about
> > $25,00 in paperback. : “The Tosafot were the collective creation of Rashi’s
> > disciples and their students (including many of his own descendants), and
they
> > are a kind of summary of the style of study and inquiry in the yeshivot of
France
> > and Germany in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. They began as additions
to
> > and notes on Rashi’s [often cryptic] commentary; they were subsequently
> > expanded and became a profound and independent interpretation of the
> > Gemara itself, indeed, in some cases one can view them as an extension of
the
> > Talmudic discussion.” page 52

> Well, then, does this mean that they are generally considered as a part of the
> Talmud? And thank you for illuminating the subject. I will certainly look for this
> book.–rb

No more than the published opinions of the Supreme Court are
considered part of the Constitution.

Steinsaltz’s book is published by Random House.

–YFE

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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 24 Dec 1996 04:49:47 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> > And your basis for saying that is?

> Quit bluffing gutless lying shyster. You haven’t filed a thing and
> you know it.

Are you really telling me the criminal Giwer hasn’t told you?

Another sucker heard from.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: into the chamber of death marched the 4 million
Date: 25 Dec 1996 02:32:01 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> In <[email protected]>, Matt “Same Old Same Old” Giwer
> ([email protected]) posting as [email protected] (John Yaya) wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Never before in history … but I am beginning to repeat myself.
>
> I noticed that six months ago.

Perhaps it’s a tortable paupacy of imagination. He has trouble thinking up
new lies. He hasn’t told us that head lice spread typhus for months now.

–YFE

From [email protected] Wed Dec 25 16:18:18 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Of Course Blackmore Doesn’t call folks names
Date: 22 Dec 1996 02:52:41 GMT
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:

> > Sorry, it doesn’t quite cut it. (“Honest, Dad, I’m not a bigot.
> > Sure, I dress up in a sheet and stand around a burning cross with
> > the boys but I’m just having some fun. Some of the others may
> > mean it but not me. After all, I didn’t light the cross.”)

> So this is your fantasy of me? Quite funny….and quite erroneous.-rb

Then why don’t you explain it.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Giwer more or less admits that he is a drunk… was Re:
RBlackmore, spews more bile and chokes on it… Re: ‘However,
they were herded into the gas chambers and gassed’W
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> the criminal Giwer writes:

> >Joel Rosenberg wrote:

> >> But, again: go to his web page and look at that face. And if you
> >> can’t find pity in your heart for that poor loser, then look some
> >> more.

> >Kinda sounds like the comments of an unsuccessful science fiction writer
> >to me. Doc Tavish

> However I know several people who have kept up and not one of
them
> has ever heard of a Joel Rosenberg as an SF author.

> Yet the boy has claimed to have 2 million ( in holocaust millions
> no doubt ) in print.

> Some day the truth may come out about this wannabe pretender but
> for the moment he remains silent as to his title credits.

Actually the truth is coming out about the criminal Giwer. He
apparently is as much a stranger to a bookstore as he is to a library.

I found his books at the two local bookstores I go to most often. His
books were there. In tribute to Giwer blowing it again I bought one “Hour of the
Octopus.” It was a very good read, Joel. Very reminiscent of Vance. I also
made a couple of phone calls to old friends (unlike the criminal Giwer I will name
mine) one was Gardner DoZois (editor of Asimov’s), George Scithers
(original editor of Asimov’s, editor of Weird Tales), and Gary Feldbaum (currently
bidding for a worldcon). All had heard of him. Janny Wurtz has as well.

Good job, criminal, it really enhances your credibility to be proven
wrong again.

–YFE

From [email protected] Wed Dec 25 20:35:43 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Paranoiac Rage (was: Re: Christ Killers!
(was Re: Laughter is the Best Medicine)
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> Keith Morrison writes:
> Mark Raven wrote:

> > Your contention that Pollard is similar to the Korean spy is nonsense. Pollard
> > transmitted targeting data, enabling Israel to viably threaten the then-Soviet
Union
> > with nuclear attack, knowing that the USSR would automatically respond by
attacking the
> > USA, and then most of the world would be destroyed (the so-called “Samson
Option”).
> > This represents their idea of “security”. Pollard’s crimes, if realized, would be
far
> > greater than any in history.

> Threaten the Soviet Union *how*? How, exactly, were they going to deliver
> a nuclear weapon to Soviet territory without anyone intercepting it en route?

Perhaps he will also reveal how he learned this information. And
assuming he did so, how he — or the person who revealed it to him — has
managed to stay out of jail The details of the information Pollard gave to Israel
has never been made public. It was placed under seal by the court.

–YFE

From [email protected] Wed Dec 25 20:35:44 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer III
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> [email protected] (Tutu101) writes:

> Yale–how many times do you need to be told–the water for the first week
> came from British field units–it did not come from the river.

At this point you are just lying. The testimony was not that the British
field units supplied water. They supplied “water carts.”

> It came
> from the river a week later after the water was pumped into the camp and
> filtered for consumption. The water used for showering did not need to be
> filtered, simply pumped in.

You are just lying again. Please point to one word of testimony that
indicates the water was “filtered.” When asked the direct question as to whether
the water from the river was “potable” the straitforawrd asnwer was that the river
water was potable. Look it up in the dictionary.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Coming Soon to a Theatre Near You
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

> Actually there is a lot more important stuff going on than just
> keeping track of ignorant folks who consider the Nazis to be the
> boon of mankind. To record _you_ takes a entry on a keyboard. Heck,
> they are even archiving me!

> You do not see me complaining.

On the other hand you are not identifying yourself as “Christ” and
threatening others with “POGROM”s.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: ‘Let them die, why should you care?’
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> the Criminal Giwer gives a sample of his lack of rational thought:
> On 23 Dec 1996 05:10:11 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > I have the relevant pages of Clay’s autobiography in front of me. (Page
> >254) He makes no such statement complaining only: “Perhaps I erred in
judgment
> >[in commuting Koch’s sentence] but no one can share the responsibility of a
> >reviewing officer. Later the Senate committee which unanimously criticized this
> >action heard witnesses who gave testimony not contained in the record before
me.
> > I could only take action on that record.”

> > So much for “blackmore’s’ statement.

To which the criminal Giwer decided to take time out from anonymusly
harassing strangers:

> Poor widdle intimidated ethnic speaks up when he hopes his mother
> is protecting him.

And then makes the laughable statement:

> Revisionists are sneaky bastards, always relying on facts and figures.

Perhaps the criminal Giwer will tell us what “facts” he relied upon for this.

Perhaps he had better figure something out quickly. Juries don’t like it
when you lie, Matty poo.

–YFE

From [email protected] Thu Dec 26 09:03:03 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Doc Tavish unless otherwise noted
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> [email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, Matt Giwer
([email protected]),
> too much of a coward to use his own name and pretending to be
> [email protected] wrote:

> > Rather it is perhaps another example of jews having such an ego
> > involvement in their imagined intelligence that they have to attack
> > everone else on those grounds. But no one asked, if you are so smart
> > why were you holocausted?

> Of course, Mr. Giwer is the world’s expert on imagined intelligence. He
> imagines he has some.

> This is the same Mr. Giwer who uses descriptive words like “kike,” and
> “yid” and “dumb cunt” and “fatbroad” and “lying shyster” to bolster his own
> arguments.

> This is the same Mr. Giwer who apparently doesn’t know the difference
> between profound and high-functioning autism, yet claims expertise on the
> subject because he “hugged one once.”

> This is the same Mr. Giwer who has been bounced off of at least three ISPs
> that I know of since he joined alt.revisionism.

> This is the same Mr. Giwer who apparently doesn’t understand the phrase
> “don’t send me e-mail.”

> Yep. He’s an expert on imagined intelligence, alright.

Just wait until he recieves his next bill from gte.net.

And to think he was warned to read the “hold harmless” clause in his
user contract.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A Nazi discusses war crimes (And response to Chuck)
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> [email protected] the criminal Giwer traitorously writes:
> On Sat, 14 Dec 1996 11:08:47 -0700, [email protected] (Mark Van
> Alstine) wrote:

> >This, of course, is a provable lie. I have pointed this to Mr. Smith
> >several times already and challenged him to substantiate his claim. Mr.
> >Smith, being such a “brave” Nazi has instead chosen to tuck his tail and
> >run each time.

> >Will Mr. Smith refer to the historical record and cite a (credible) source
> >that shows the United States Navy was “destroying German vessels on the
> >high seas before 1939 to provoke Hitler into a war?”

> Let us clarify this. Does the issue hang upon the date or that FDR
> was attempting to provoke a war with Germany? And if the latter, does
> it hang upon the method of that provocation?

> At the moment I can not give citations, I can only say that it was
> an interesting documentary on The History Channel one night. It also
> mentioned that prior to Germany finally being provoked into the
> declaration of war that US Naval vessels provided escorts for merchant
> ships. Have a little patience here and I will get around to proper
> citations.

Wow! the American navy provided protection fro American merchant
shipping. How could such perfidy have gone unpunished?

> Yes there was clearly US provocation of war with Germany by a
> violation of neutrality. Yes the US did protect its merchant ships
> that were engaged in violating that neutrality. And in protecting
> them it did sink Germany submarines.

Wow! The American navy decided to shoot at people who decided to
attack American ships. Those fools obviously did not know the purpose of the
American navy.

Next the criminal Giwer will tell us that the basic purpose of AMerican
police forces is to provide employment for workers at Dunkin’ Donuts.

–YFE

From [email protected] Thu Dec 26 09:03:04 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: The Giwer Criminal is Caught Again
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:30:51 -0700, [email protected] (Mark Van
> Alstine) wrote:

> >You have repeated this same lie several times. Now, Mr. Smith, I take it
> >that your furious backpeddaling and lying about what you wrote is your way
> >of admitting that you _are_ indeed a cowardly little Nazi shit who is
> >running away from my challange to you?

> (yawn). Oh Van Smallstein. It matters not if the Germans were being
> attacked in 1939, 1932, or 1940, it was still the U.S. that attacked
> first. You lose either way. You win on the error and lose the
> argument but you’re too dense to realize that of course.

Please name the German ship that was attacked by the “Rueben
James” (you know, the ship names after the trumpet player) which was
torpedoed while escorting American merchant ships? And, while your at it, name
a German ship that was “attacked” before the sinking of the Rueben James.

–YFE

From [email protected] Thu Dec 26 09:03:05 PST 1996
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: LEADING REVISIONIST SCHOLAR (TM) (Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer III)
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> [email protected] the Criminal Giwer’s Reading Comprehension Fails again:
> On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:25:57 GMT, [email protected] (Daniel Keren)
> wrote:

> Actually it is about a kike shyster who has stated that he is an
> intimidated ethnic. Those were its words, not mine.

Actually it is about the criminal Giwer whose misdemeanor was bumped a
grade because of a statute entitled “Ethnic Intimidation.”

The criminal Giwer will be asked to provide the jury with an actual
reference that states what he claims it states.

–YFE

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> the Criminal Giwer writes:
> On 16 Dec 1996 00:53:50 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> > In this case, I and my family are the victims of the crimes committed by
> >the criminal Giwer. I will continue to so describe him in the future.

> > It is neither silly or an opinion. It is a statement of fact. The criminal
> >Giwer has, in fact, admitted committing the acts. You have been provided
the
> >text of the statute involved.

> >> But you keep saying that Mr Giwer has committed criminal acts against
> >> you, yet you have not filed a complaint. Is that not the same?

> > And your basis for saying that is?

> You own words that you would not file a complaint you boozing,
> intimidated ethnic.

The criminal Giwer is, as is his usual practice distorting. The comment
was made after his initial criminal harassment of me and my family. I have not
made this statement after his continued criminal harassment of me and my family.

I do hope the criminal Giwer will pay a visit Pennsylvania in the near
future.

–YFE

–YFE

From [email protected] Fri Dec 27 11:37:58 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Mr. Giwer’s mailbomb
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> the criminal Giwer writes:
> On 13 Dec 1996 10:37:21 -0500, [email protected] (Michael P.
> Stein) wrote:

> > Because! I! Say! So! ISPs are not in the habit of releasing
> >”exhaustive reports” to the general public on such matters. But in this
> >case, I would say that seeing a relationship between Mr. Giwer’s sudden
> >departure from Netcom, and the mailbomb complaint filed shortly before
> >said departure, is _not_ a “post hoc ergo propter hoc” fallacy.

> However it is not only a fallacy but a lie as Netcom gave the
> reason as the harrassment they received. That was of course
> orchestrated holohugger harrassment. And as we all know that is
> continuing with GTE because they are despicable little boozing kikes.

Actually netcom did *not* terminate the criminal Giwer, they only
“suspended” his service because of his actions. He could have been reinstated
if he had met their conditions. One of those conditions was, I wsa informed, a
public apology to Nizkor for mailbombing them and a written promise nt to do it
again. The criminal Giwer decided to take his business elsewhere.

You amy also be assured that when the criminal Giwer is complaining
about someone else, it usually indicates that he is doing it himself. There are
many examples of this. When the criminal Giwer was threatening extra-legal
“unspecified penalties” against Nizkor because of a phone call to his father
asking the whereabouts of the criminal Giwer, the criminal Giwer was harassing
me and my family.

The criminal Giwer now complains about gte being “harassed.” He
does not state that he has been harassing providers. I received an e-mail today
>from Larry Corsa at enter.net which stated:

“This fellow is harassing us by sending multiple emails complaining
about someone.

“Anything we can do about this?”

Attached to the e-mail was one of the criminal Giwer’s posts
under a forged name to alt.revisionism ranting and raving.

–YFE

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> [email protected] (Tutu101) writes:

> Sure. Like it or not it is fairly easy to purify water. You boil
> it. About five
> minutes does the trick.

> Tell you what, Yale…the next time you drop a big old turd in the toilet,
> scoop some of the water out, boil it for five minutes, and then openwide
> for chunky……..

Tell you what, liar, next time you are given a choice between dying and
drinking safe but unappetizing water, you, me and any other person in the world
would open wide and swallow.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: A Nazi asks about the Talmud (Sara?)
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> [email protected] writes:

> What is the tosephta and how does it differ from the Talmud?-rb

I suggest that you add to your extensive library:

“The Talmud: A Reference Guide” by Adin Steinsaltz. It runs about
$25,00 in paperback. : “The Tosafot were the collective creation of Rashi’s
disciples and their students (including many of his own descendants), and they
are a kind of summary of the style of study and inquiry in the yeshivot of France
and Germany in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. They began as additions to
and notes on Rashi’s [often cryptic] commentary; they were subsequently
expanded and became a profound and independent interpretation of the
Gemara itself, indeed, in some cases one can view them as an extension of the
Talmudic discussion.” page 52

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] (Doc Benway) writes:
> On 24 Dec 1996 00:31:18 -0500, [email protected] (Michael P.
> Stein) wrote:

> >Yale F. Edeiken wrote:
> >> I do hope the criminal Giwer will pay a visit Pennsylvania in the near
> >>future.

> > Perhaps he will drive through on his way to Ottawa to have a chat with
> >Mr. Dosanj or one of his associates?

> Perhaps you lying kikes will some day learn the Chistian virtue of
> forgiveness?
> Never! You are all murdering animal yids.

The Criminal Giwer having criminally harassed me and my family and
lied about consistently, asks for “forgiveness.”

Sorry, criminal, when has there even been an apology.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: A Nazi asks about the Talmud (Sara?)
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> Doc Tavish <“[email protected]”@phoenix.net> writes:
> Honest question- Has a gentile or could a gentile ever be a rebbe or a
> rabbi Mike?

Yes. Moreover one does not have to be a Jew to study Talmud. The
best expert I know is a Jesuit priest.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] (Up front) writes:

> >>”History, as usual, will tell lies.” – GBS. Have times changed?
> >>and If history has taught us anything, it is that history will >be revised.

> It leaves other conclusions. One is the opinion George Bernard
> Shaw which is presented for your consideration. He wrote it in a play
> covering the difference between US and British histories of the
> American Revolution.

Actually he wrote it in “The Devil’s Disciple” and the reference was
to “history” would explain the failure of Lord Germaine to issue orders to have
Clinton move up the Hudson. The theme of the play, by the way, is how
circumstances can bring out the real character of a man. The American hero is
based on John Peter Muhlenberg.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> the Criminal Giwer writes:

> FROM YOUR IMT:

> DR SEIDL: When the witness was heard here I had no opportunity to
> cross-examine him, and for that reason ….

> PRESIDENT: Why did you have no opportunity to cross examine him?

> DR SEIDL: Because I did not know beforehand that he would be called by
> the Prosecution as a witness and had no opportunity to speak to the
> Defendant Frank about the questions which might have been put to the
> witness.

> [….]

> DR SEIDL: May I perhaps add something to this point? The difficulty
> of cross examination is just this, that we do not learn of the
> intended calling of a witness by the Prosecution until the witness is
> led into the courtroom, and we do not know the subject of the evidence
> until the Prosecution start to examine the witness.

> Just like in any regular trial.
> Source: IMT, VIII, p. 521

Yes. The defense attorney made an objection.

No ruling of the Court is reported.

No argument by the Prosecution is reported.

All the criminal Giwser presents is the fact that a defense attorney made
some sort of objection.

The criminal Giwer apparently believes that the fact that a defense
attorney makes an objection is proof that no fair trial was had.

`–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> > Punished? They were DECORATED for participating in the mass murder.

> > Letter from SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Rodl to the inspector of
> > concentration camps, SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Liebehenschel, 14
> > November 1941
> > [Hitler and the Final Solution – G. Fleming, University of California
> > Press, 1984, p. 99]
> > ——————————————————————–
> > The Commandant’s office has submitted to date two lists recommending
> > the conferment of the Kreigverdienstkreuz [war service cross]. In
> > both of these appear SS personnel who participated in executions. We
> > herewith request confirmation as to whether these names should be
> > listed once again in the roll currently under preparation. Further
> > requested is information as to whether in the recommendation lists
> > under “reasons and comments of immediate superior” there should be
> > specified “execution, i.e., special action” or whether a general,
> > routine reason should be given.

> What were the circumstances of these alleged executions?

The mass shooting of innocent civilians at Riga (Fleming; page 100)
which he organized “on orders from the highest levels.”

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 23 Dec 1996 14:41:01 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> the criminal Giwer vomits:
> >> On 23 Dec 1996 04:02:27 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
wrote:

> >> >> >> [email protected] (Tutu101) writes:
> >> >> >> Could this classify as another insult? Is this how you respond to a
> >> >> >> person who indicates a willingness to discuss matters peacefully.
> >Ken
> >> >> >> Lewis words are highly provocative as well as insulting. From
what I
> >have
> >> >> >> read these many months, this is a typical response from Holocaust
> >> >> >> believers. Your use of insults and name calling will not win you
many
> >> >> >> converts.

> >> > Well “tutu” now that you have been given a sample of the criminal
> >> >Giwer’s ranting and raving, I repeat my question: have you told the
criminal
> >> >Giwer?

> >> Only communists repeat the holocaust claims the communists
> >created.
> >> That makes you not only a lying boozing kike but a murdering
> >> communist. What does a slime murderer like you do looking in a
> >> mirror?

> > Well “tutu” you now have two examples of the criminal Giwer’s
> >technique.

> > Why ae you keeping silent?

> Giwer’s not a criminal, Yalie-poo.

People who commit criminal acts are criminals. The criminal Giwer
has committed several criminal acts.

> Opinions don’t determine
> criminality, courts do. But I thought you said you knew how courts
> work, shyster-man?

I certainly do. And the criminal Giwer is a criminal.

–YFE

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> Doc Tavish <“[email protected]”@phoenix.net> writes:
> Andrew Mathis wrote:

> > >What would gentiles do if they did read all the
> > >referrences made about them in the Talmud- turn around and rip the
> > >jugular veins wide open of the scoundrels?

> [I was speaking rhetoriacally and nor making the bugle call of Joshua
> for attack. You are the one constantly showing aggressiveness. You must
> have bad associations.]

You have made various statements including promoting a
“POGROM” and referring to giving someone a “mouthful of bloody chiclets.”
Violence seems to be a weapon you want to use against Jews.

> > Try me. Please.

> [I am really not that type of guy and John Ciao will verify that.]

Typical nazi bully. Talks tough until someone takes him up on it.

–YFE

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> “Netcroozer” writes:

> Doc Benway <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>…
> > There is no question that Israel sold the information to the Soviet
> > Union. That is what friends are for. That is why Pollard needs rot in
> > prison for the rest of his life.

> When was the evidence of the sale presented, at Pollard’s trial (I do not
> defend him)
> or from military officers after the USSR breakup? Considering the relations
> between
> the USSR and Israel at the time, I wonder how much stock the Russians
would
> put in
> anything Israel sold them.

It wasn’t. Nor was there any evidence presented that it was sold to the
Soviets. In fact, the information that Pollard passed to the Israelis was presented
in camera (i.e. secretly) to the judge. The defense never saw it. It is under court
seal and has never been made public.

The criminal Giwer is either making up his charges (likely), is relying
upon information from one of his nutcase correspondents (possible), or is
participating in a criminal enterprise.

–YFE

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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 23 Dec 1996 04:24:46 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> >> On 18 Dec 1996 19:10:18 -0500, [email protected] (Michael P.
> >> Stein) wrote:

> >> > Wrong again. The voice was identified by a listener, and there were
> >> >notes for the speech in Himmler’s handwriting, and we have other
> >> >confirmation that he gave a speech that day. So there are some positive
> >> >reasons to think the tape is real. You can listen to it yourself if you
> >> >have RealAudio capability – check Nizkor.

> >> > But if there is any charge of forgery, the claimant bears the burden
> >> >of bringing forward evidence that there was such forgery. Remember, the
> >> >tapes were found by Americans, not Soviets.

> >> > Still, if you’re so sure the tapes are doctored, why aren’t you
> >> >jumping at the chance to both embarrass Nizkor and make all of us take a
> >> >collective $2,000 bath? The offer is still on the table. Or are you not
> >> >as sure as you would like people to think?

> >> There exists no reason to disprove a tape untested for doctoring and
> >> genuineness and consequently worthless.

> > Wrong again, “Stele.”

> > The standards for the admission of a tape recording into evidence can
> >be found in U.S. v. Starks 515 F.2d 112 (3rd Circuit; 1975). According to that
> >case the identity of the speaker may be established through the testimony of a
> >witness who recognizes the voice on the tape. (Commonwealth v. Johnson
450
> >Pa. 575, 301 A.2d 632, 634 (1973) There is, as anybody can see from
reading
> >those cases, no reason exists for a proponent to test “For doctoring.” That
> >burden lies on the person challenging the evidence.

> > Once more we discover that the little dog Stele has made the mistake
> >of believing his master’s voice (good doggie). Does he ever get tired of
making a
> >fool of himself?

> When are you going to test the tape Yalie-poo to see if you can
> convert a recording that is currently worthless into something that is
> merely inconsequential?

Sorry. The tape is admissible into evidence as is.

If you think otherwise then prove it. You have been given the
opportunity yet decline.

–YFE

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> [email protected] the Criminal Giwer writes:
> On 24 Dec 1996 05:14:53 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> On 23 Dec 1996 02:28:54 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> > Apparently I read somewhat better than you. For the first five days the
> >> >water was trucked to the camp in water “carts.” This does not mean that
> >the
> >> >water did not come from the local area. In fact, it would seem tol indicate
> >that it
> >> >was.

> >> >> A week later, water was pumped it. However, it did need to
> >> >> be filtered.

> >> > This is an invention on your part (actually the criminal Giwer invented it
> >> >and you adopted it). Moreover since the testimony was that the equipment
> >> >found at the camp was used to obtain water from the river any “filters” that
> >were
> >> >used were available to the murderer Kramer.

> >> > As far as the pollutants you describe are concerned, boiling is all that
> >> >is needed. Or are you now going to tell us that there was chemical waste
in
> >the
> >> >water that suddenly disappeared when the pumping started? Perhaps you
> >> >would be good enough to tell us what kind of “filters” could be effective
> >against
> >> >such pollutants and how the locals (who were using water from the river)
> >> >acquired their immunity.

> > To which the Criminal Giwer responded:

> >> Da widdle intimidate ethnic wears its ugwy head and cwys it will be
> >> a wampshade.

> >> Revisionists are sneaky bastards, always relying on facts and figures.

> > Based on these writings one of two things is true:

> > 1. the Criminal Giwer’s foul outburst contains facts and figures

> > 2. The Criminal Giwer is a liar.

> > Anybody who believes #1 is invited to come forward and publically
> >demonstrate their stupidity.

> Da widdle intimidated etnic whines again. AHHHHHHH!

> everyone feel sorrry for it.

As I have written before when the Criminal Giwer makes a claim like this
you can be very sure that he is really writing about himself. It was true when he
was fraudulently claiming that hsi family wsa being harassed. It turned out that the
criminal Giwer was at the same time criminally harassing others. It ws true when
the criminal Giwer babbled about his ISPs being “harassed.” It turned out that the
criminal Giwer was anonymusly sending hate mail to other ISPs.

It’s true again.

Gte.com had a talk with the criminal Giwer in which such legal concepts
as “exemplary damages” and “hold harmless” clauses were discussed. Alert
readers will have noticed that since that time the criminal Giwer has altered his
style to eliminate the actionable material and has resorted to infantile baby talk,
stamping his feet like a six year old who wants a cookie.

Unfortunately (as the criminal Giwer would tell his friends if he was being
honest with them) it is a case of too little, too late.

Sorry, criminal one, you should have heeded gte.com advice when they
had you change the contents of your home page.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: ‘Let them die, why should you care?’
Date: 25 Dec 1996 04:38:41 GMT
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> the criminal Giwer writes:
> On 25 Dec 1996 01:18:44 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> >> the Criminal Giwer gives a sample of his lack of rational thought:
> >> >> On 23 Dec 1996 05:10:11 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
wrote:

> >> >> > I have the relevant pages of Clay’s autobiography in front of
me. (Page
> >> >> >254) He makes no such statement complaining only: “Perhaps I erred
in
> >> >judgment
> >> >> >[in commuting Koch’s sentence] but no one can share the responsibility
of
> >a
> >> >> >reviewing officer. Later the Senate committee which unanimously
criticized
> >this
> >> >> >action heard witnesses who gave testimony not contained in the record
> >before
> >> >me.
> >> >> > I could only take action on that record.”

> >> > To which the criminal Giwer decided to take time out from anonymusly
> >> >harassing strangers:

> >> >> Poor widdle intimidated ethnic speaks up when he hopes his
mother
> >> >> is protecting him.
> >
> >> > And then makes the laughable statement:
> >
> >> >> Revisionists are sneaky bastards, always relying on facts and figures.
> >
> >> > Perhaps the criminal Giwer will tell us what “facts” he relied upon for this.
> >
> >> > Perhaps he had better figure something out quickly. Juries don’t like it
> >> >when you lie, Matty poo.
> >
> >> Po widdle intimidate etnic. Everybody say AHHHHHHHHH!

> > Is that what you are going to tell the jury?

> That you have no dick.

Please do. I’m sure that will impress them when they consider exemplary
damages.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Mr. Giwer’s mailbomb
Date: 23 Dec 1996 14:37:52 GMT
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> the criminal Giwer writes:
> On 23 Dec 1996 03:39:16 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> > Actually netcom did *not* terminate the criminal Giwer, they only
> >”suspended” his service because of his actions. He could have been
reinstated
> >if he had met their conditions. One of those conditions was, I wsa informed, a
> >public apology to Nizkor for mailbombing them and a written promise nt to do it
> >again. The criminal Giwer decided to take his business elsewhere.

> It is good to see de poor widdle intimidated ethnic is still lying
> like a righteous kike should. No rational person could consider
> Nizkor’s request for the material to be mailbombing. And of course
> NETCOM never said this. But self-anointed widdle lying intimidated
> ethnic will continue to spread his kike lies.

Apparently netcom do not qualify in the criminal Giwer’s mind as
“rational people.”

> > You amy also be assured that when the criminal Giwer is complaining
> >about someone else, it usually indicates that he is doing it himself. There are
> >many examples of this. When the criminal Giwer was threatening extra-legal
> >”unspecified penalties” against Nizkor because of a phone call to his father
> >asking the whereabouts of the criminal Giwer, the criminal Giwer was
harassing
> >me and my family.

> > The criminal Giwer now complains about gte being “harassed.” He
> >does not state that he has been harassing providers. I received an e-mail
today
> >from Larry Corsa at enter.net which stated:

> > “This fellow is harassing us by sending multiple emails complaining
> >about someone.

> > “Anything we can do about this?”

> Make a lampshade of the intimidated ethnic?

> Da poor widdle lying bastard kike is so intimidated it keeps on
> lying.

> What a piece of kikedom.

Anybody interested in proving the criminal Giwer’s harassment and that
his denial is pure prevarication to themselves may check with [email protected]
Enter.net has also complained to gte.net.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] (Caine) writes:
> On 23 Dec 1996 04:24:46 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > The standards for the admission of a tape recording into evidence can
> >be found in U.S. v. Starks 515 F.2d 112 (3rd Circuit; 1975). According to that
> >case the identity of the speaker may be established through the testimony of a
> >witness who recognizes the voice on the tape. (Commonwealth v. Johnson 450
> >Pa. 575, 301 A.2d 632, 634 (1973) There is, as anybody can see from reading
> >those cases, no reason exists for a proponent to test “For doctoring.” That
> >burden lies on the person challenging the evidence.

> The intimidated ethnic plays his stupid legal games again.

You mean I cited the law instead of making it up.

> Real question, Intimidated, what was the probable cause upon which
> was based the search warrant that siezed this tape in the first place?
> Who issued the warrant? Who requested the warrant?

Who needed a warrant?

Please give me a single legal cite (your fertile imagination does not count)
that states that one would be needed.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer III
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> [email protected] (Tutu101) writes:

> I will wager that you never read a book on emergency health
> measures. *All* bacteria can be killed by boiling water.

> Now you are giwering us with fake “science.”

> Yale. you are going to bite the big one with that remark…all bacteria
> can NOT be killed by boiling.

Nonsense. Utter, compelte nonsense.

> I have posted a reference for this in the
> past, but here is a new one for you

You have never posted such a “reference” in the past.

…Don’t claim a month from now that
> you never saw it. I will also email it to you. From: The Book of
> Survival–Anthony Greenbank:

> Treat all water as if polluted. Crystal-clear water could be
> contaminated. Tap water polluted. Mountain stream running from a high
> village or over a dead sheep.
> Risks of cholera, thyphoid, dysentery, or schistosomiasis too
> great….Various methods to purify water….So…to purify:

> Strain all water through a cloth or folded hankerchief to suspend grit,
> gravel, dust, sand,…

As the author clearly states. This is not an anti-bacterial method.

> Boil hard for at least a minute (longer preferably)

Bingo.

> Add five drops of iodineto 2 pints of water or 10 drops to sterilize
> cloudy water

> Let stand for thirty minutes. Sterilize mouth of container with drop of
> water and wait a little bit longer.

This has nothing to do with killing bacterai as the second part of the
sentence notes.

> Pinch of salt can improve taste…

As the author states, not an anti-bacterial method.

> Water purifying tablets…

This says nothing.

> Now, do you still insist those folks, already serious weakened by
> disease…typhus and dysentery….drank to their heart’s content from the
> river without anything being done to filter and purify it?

Absolutely. In fact, had you even bothered to ask a phsyician the process
to deal with these two dehydrates diseases is not just to let people drink “to their
heart’s content” but to “force” fluids.

Please note as well that you citation fails to support you. The *only*
method he recommends that will kill bacteria is “boiling.” Oddly enough it is the
method that is used in every laboratory dealing with bacteria. Look up a reference
for “autoclave.”

–YFE

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> [email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:

> Nice to see Mr. Giwer’s penchant for name-calling isn’t dulled by the
> holiday season.

> By the way, what has Revenue Canada told you about Nizkor, Mr. Giwer?

Or, for that matter, what gte.net has told him about the “hold harmless”
clause in their user agreement.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: LEADING REVISIONIST SCHOLAR (TM) (Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer III)
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> the Criminal Giwer backtacks again:
> On 25 Dec 1996 02:20:06 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> [email protected] the Criminal Giwer’s Reading Comprehension Fails again:
> >> On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:25:57 GMT, [email protected] (Daniel Keren)
> >> wrote:

> >> Actually it is about a kike shyster who has stated that he is an
> >> intimidated ethnic. Those were its words, not mine.

> > Actually it is about the criminal Giwer whose misdemeanor was bumped a
> >grade because of a statute entitled “Ethnic Intimidation.”

> There is also a crime called murder. There is no crime unless
> there is a murder. There is no crime of ethnic intimidation unless
> there is an intimidated ethnic.

Bzzzt. Wrong. read the statute. First actual intimidation need not be
shown. Second, it is not a crime per se but only an enhancement of penalty.

> > The criminal Giwer will be asked to provide the jury with an actual
> >reference that states what he claims it states.

> The lying kike shyster will have to prove it is both an ethnic and
> was intimidated. Its testimony as to it being intimidated by
> phosphors on a monitor will be most amusing and posted here for all to
> read.

No. All I will have to prove are the elements of the statute. It was
posted and is very clear.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> the Criminal Giwer writes:
> On 25 Dec 1996 03:08:02 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> Da po intimidated ethnic is gonna have a jury. Dumb widda kike is
> gonne file a compwaint? Of course not. It is too intimidated to file
> a complaint.

The Criminal Giwer knows differently. Why is he afraid to tell his
cohorts what is going on?

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: a normal fair trial
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On 26 Dec 1996 03:59:33 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> the Criminal Giwer writes:

> >> PRESIDENT: Why did you have no opportunity to cross examine him?

> >> DR SEIDL: Because I did not know beforehand that he would be called
by
> >> the Prosecution as a witness and had no opportunity to speak to the
> >> Defendant Frank about the questions which might have been put to the
> >> witness.

> >> DR SEIDL: May I perhaps add something to this point? The difficulty
> >> of cross examination is just this, that we do not learn of the
> >> intended calling of a witness by the Prosecution until the witness is
> >> led into the courtroom, and we do not know the subject of the evidence
> >> until the Prosecution start to examine the witness.

> >> Just like in any regular trial.
> >> Source: IMT, VIII, p. 521

> > Yes. The defense attorney made an objection.

> > No ruling of the Court is reported.

> > No argument by the Prosecution is reported.

> > All the criminal Giwer presents is the fact that a defense attorney
made
> >some sort of objection.

> > The criminal Giwer apparently believes that the fact that a defense
> >attorney makes an objection is proof that no fair trial was had.

> Yalie-poo the shyster in true form defends the Nuremberg Court as a
> “fair trial in all aspects” even where the Prosecution calls witnesses
> without the defense knowing beforehand, a Perry Mason tactic.

Sorry asshole but:

1. The comment from the prosecutor is snipped. He could very well
have risen and waved a paper showing that notice had been given;

2. The ruling of the judg is snipped. The court could have sustained
the objection;

3. The witness is unidentified. If he was called to address an issue
raised at trial no notice is required.

4. Since you and the criminal Giwer — apparently relying on your
fantasies think that this does not happen in a “real” trial explain this excerpt
>from the trial of Cope v. Butschek (92-C-797; Court of Common Pleas of Lehigh
County) held before the Hon. James Knoll Gardner 25 October 1995:

“MR. PULCINI: Your Honor, I would like to object to the witness
being called. Mr. Schaeffer is listed nowhere on any pre-trials, and there is no
notice that Mr. Schaeffer would be called.

“Defense counsel indicated yesterday that he was calling one
witness. There has been no amended pre-trial. Mr. Schaeffer’s name has
never been involved in this case, and we would have no notice in any form
whatsoever of this witness being called to testify.”

[discussion between the Court and counsel at which Tom Lonardo,
the defense counsel, admitted that Schaffer had not been named. You will
note that the criminal Giwer and his like dog Stele — say “arf” Kurtsie — do not
claim that this happened in their excerpt.]

“THE COURT: All right. Okay. The objection is overruled.

“We believe that an issue has been mad eoer who owned the place.
We don’t think there is any real dispute in this lawsuit over who owned the
place.

“However, a whole lot of ruffles and flourishes have been made over
who owns this place, and we will aloow a brief witness who, albeit was not
identified and should have been, because we beleive the plaintiff is not
prejudiced by allowing this witness to testify. So we are going to allow you to
call him.”

[Note that the Criminal Giwer and his pet did not bother to post the
ruling of the court.]

By the way, Arf, have you figured out what cross-examination is yet?
I note that the Criminal Giwer has not.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> the criminal Giwer Admits He is Lying:
> On 28 Dec 1996 00:07:44 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
>
> >> the criminal Giwer obsfuscates:

> Kike-mouth posts again.

Yes, he does. And proves you a fool and liar.

> >> Then is it your considered opinion that all methods of canning
> >> including home canning cease to use the pressure method and merely
use
> >> boiling water? Please be specific in your answer as the requirement
> >> for pressurized cooking has been known since the Napoleanic Wars and
> >> before Pasteur was born.

> > No, it is, most probably his opinion that you are a lying jerk. That is,
> >most simply put, because you are a lying jerk.

> Good kike-speak there. Nothing else is expected from a kike.

But true. Aparently what you expect is truth. Does it make you
uncomfortable? Then wait for the cross-examination.

> > The “Ball Blue Book” (1995 edtion) states that bacteria are killed at a
> >temperature of 180 degrees F. (page 4) but that bacterial *spores* are not
killed
> >until 240 degrees. Since the question is for water to be used immediately
killing
> >the spores is irrelevant. Moreover pressure canning is needed *only* for low
acid
> >foods; immersion in boiling water is sufficient for acid foods (page 4).

> > None of this is relevant. The question is purification of drinking water.

> >A topic that, seemingly, you know as little about as you do home canning.

> >> You folks can not be as ignorant as you pretend. That is a truly
> >> frightening thought.

> > The more frightening thought is that you might be as dishonest as you
> >seem.

> Right on, po widdle intimidated ethnic kike. Save kike is not an
> ethnic group.

Read (I know the word “read” is foreign to your nature, but try) the
statute.

The insanity defense won’t work, Matty poo.

–YFE

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> the criminal Giwer writes:
> On 25 Dec 1996 04:17:04 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > Apparently you believe the criminal Giwer.

> > Hint: Ask him about his recent telephone conversation with gte.net.

> Why don’t you tell me about them? Please be specitic you lying
> kike.

Why don’t you remember what they told you?

> But then, you ADMIT you did not file any charges but rather told
> you lies to GTE. That is what we have all said, you are kowardly
> kike.

Giwer you are so stupid it’s almost too easy.

Keep lying, old boy. And treasure those moments you have left with
gte.net.

–YFE

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> [email protected] (John Morris) answered the Criminal Giwer’s lie:

> > You mean what kikes started and what kikes continue and then
> >complain and whine and harrass when it is returned to them? You mean
> >those kikes?

> I have no idea what you are talking about. I hope you are not denying
> that you have published other people’s home phones and addresses since
> that assertion would be a lie.

Apaprently you don’t understand the standard techn ique of the Criminal
Giwer. Simply put he pulls some outrageous tactic (such as sending anonymus
hate mail to an ISP and then claiming that others are harassing his ISP). If your
memory is good you might also remember that he appended a note stating that he
was doing so that other could use it “for whatever purpose whatsoever” or words
to that effect.

> Now if “kikes” published your home phone and address at some mystical
> time in the past before you ever did it, I wouldn’t know. But if you
> took up the practise in response, you are no better, nor different
> from, whoever it is you are complaining about.

> As to this term “kike,” I no longer have the least notion of what you
> mean by it. It is generally used as a derogatory name for a Jew, but
> you seem to have assigned it a private meaning much as you did with
> the phrase “doing revisionism.”

> No one can possibly know what yout words mean anymore. While you may
> appear to be an antisemite, it may rather be the case that you are
> simply incoherent.

I think he might be building an insanity defense. The “kike” nonsense
started after a phone call he received from his ISP.

> > Kikes never debate. So what is your point?

> Again, since I cannot understand your private definitions of words, I
> cannot tell if there is any truth value in the statement “kikes never
> debate.” But my point was that David Thomas is often on about how he
> doesn’t debate, only that he promotes debate; I, for one, cannot see
> how debate is promoted by double standards and hypocrisy.

> If we are going to condemn the practise of posting other people’s
> private home phones and addresses, then it must be condemned when
> anyone does it whether the posting was done by Matt Giwer or by Sara
> Schwartz. Thomas is one-sided in his condemnations of a range of
> practises.

–YFE

From [email protected] Sat Dec 28 09:14:09 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Paranoiac Rage (was: Re: Christ Killers!
(was Re: Laughter is the Best Medicine)
Date: 28 Dec 1996 07:13:32 GMT
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> the criminal Giwer displays his ignorance:
> On 25 Dec 1996 03:50:09 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > It wasn’t. Nor was there any evidence presented that it was sold to the
> >Soviets. In fact, the information that Pollard passed to the Israelis was presented
> >in camera (i.e. secretly) to the judge. The defense never saw it. It is under court
> >seal and has never been made public.

> Lets see. It was not presented at the trial but was presented to
> the judge of his trial. An odd position you are talking.

You’re lying again, criminal one. You altered “to the judge” to “to the judge
of his trial.” He pleaded guilty, hence there was no trial. A judge still had to
*sentence* him after the guilty plea. The judge does this by gathering information
and/or taking testimony. Furthermore, in federal court the judge is not obligated to
accept either the sentence proposed or the guilty plea itself. That’s the way the
system works.

> As to Israel selling it to the Soviets, that would have no bearing
> upon his trial. Espionage damage is done by compromise, period. Who
> it was compromised to or what they did with it has no bearing upon the
> compromise.

The nature of what he stole and what was done with certainly has a
bearing upon his sentence.

> > The criminal Giwer is either making up his charges (likely), is relying
> >upon information from one of his nutcase correspondents (possible), or is
> >participating in a criminal enterprise.

> The initimidated lying ethnic is playing his shit kike games again.

You mean proving that you are an ignorant liar?

Tell us about what was revealed at Pollard’s trial again.

–YFE

From [email protected] Sat Dec 28 09:14:09 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re:The Criminal Giwer Still Can’t Read
Date: 28 Dec 1996 05:42:55 GMT
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> the lying scum a/k/a the Criminal Giwer makes a fool of himself:
> On 28 Dec 1996 00:35:25 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> >> >> [email protected] the Criminal Giwer’s Reading Comprehension Fails again:

> >> There is also a crime called murder. There is no crime unless
> >> there is a murder. There is no crime of ethnic intimidation unless
> >> there is an intimidated ethnic.

> > Bzzzt. Wrong. read the statute. First actual intimidation need not be
> >shown. Second, it is not a crime per se but only an enhancement of penalty.

> Da po widda etnic now claims there can be a crime without a crime.
> Wadda lyin kike shyster.

Your babblinmg again, o criminal one.

> >> > The criminal Giwer will be asked to provide the jury with an actual
> >> >reference that states what he claims it states.

> >> The lying kike shyster will have to prove it is both an ethnic and
> >> was intimidated. Its testimony as to it being intimidated by
> >> phosphors on a monitor will be most amusing and posted here for all to
> >> read.

> > No. All I will have to prove are the elements of the statute. It was
> >posted and is very clear.
>
> Po widdle intimidated etnic. Who is it whining to now? Not the
> police, not the prosecutor. If he did that he would be liable to
> charges of perjury. So it makes hundreds of calls to ISPs harrassing
> them to do its widdle kike will.

You are. You are lying as well.

> Wadda kike. Just like them all. Liars to their kike core.

Wadda liar. I can’t wait until you explain this post under oath.

–YFE

From [email protected] Sat Dec 28 09:14:10 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Criminal Giwer in Intimidated
Date: 28 Dec 1996 06:23:13 GMT
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> the Criminal Giwer blusters:
> On 25 Dec 1996 04:10:36 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> >> >> Revisionists are sneaky bastards, always relying on facts and
figures.

> >> > Based on these writings one of two things is true:

> >> > 1. the Criminal Giwer’s foul outburst contains facts and figures

> >> > 2. The Criminal Giwer is a liar.

> >> > Anybody who believes #1 is invited to come forward and publically
> >> >demonstrate their stupidity.

> > As I have written before when the Criminal Giwer makes a claim like
this
> >you can be very sure that he is really writing about himself. It was true
when he
> >was fraudulently claiming that hsi family wsa being harassed. It turned out
that the
> >criminal Giwer was at the same time criminally harassing others. It ws true
when
> >the criminal Giwer babbled about his ISPs being “harassed.” It turned out
that the
> >criminal Giwer was anonymusly sending hate mail to other ISPs.

> > It’s true again.

> > Gte.com had a talk with the criminal Giwer

> When was that?

You should know.

> Get used to it. They were humoring you. You were pet on the head
> by an entry level type.

> They took you for what you are worth, nothing.

Is that why you changed your homepage at their orders?

> in which such legal concepts
> >as “exemplary damages” and “hold harmless” clauses were discussed.
Alert
> >readers will have noticed that since that time the criminal Giwer has altered
his
> >style to eliminate the actionable material and has resorted to infantile baby
talk,
> >stamping his feet like a six year old who wants a cookie.

> The lying kike shyster needs to learn where left field is so that
> he can get back to it. It is raving in its own fantasy land.

Right, Matty poo. Haven’t you told your handlers yet?

> > Unfortunately (as the criminal Giwer would tell his friends if he was
being
> >honest with them) it is a case of too little, too late.
>
> > Sorry, criminal one, you should have heeded gte.com advice when
they
> >had you change the contents of your home page.

> Last time I looked it had not changed.

Sure, Matty poo.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Correcting Giwer’s and Blackmore’s scientific ignorance
Date: 28 Dec 1996 16:04:10 GMT
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> [email protected] (Fafner13) writes:
> blackmore then tries to quote another source which disagrees with
> him:

> > FIELD WATER SUPPLIES

> > METHODS OF PURIFICATION

> > CHLORINATION—Chlorination is the method of choice and may be carried
> out
> > in the water sterilizing bag, in water carts, in small reservoirs, or
> by
> > the mobile purification units operated by the Corps of Engineers.

> The relevance is not shown. Boiling water has the same effect.

> Comment:
Let us count the lies:

> This is finally what yale Edeikin has to counter after he read
> the field manual published by the US Army.

Lie 1: which is irrelevant. The manual talks about the “preferred”
method. It says nothing about boiling water being ineffective.

> Well, what else could you
> expect from a man who would have given water to dying patients which had
> corpses and turds floating in it.

Lie 2: There were two sources of water. The water from the cisterns
was polluted and no efforts were made to make it potable. As I noted “First you
remove the corpses.” Source 2 was the river which contained potable water.

> River water would have been like Evian
> compared to that

Lie 3: the river water was potable. It was used by (a) British soldiers
(b) prisoners (c) camp guards (4) the local town without ill effect.

>–and let’s not forget that Yale informed the newsgroup
> that he would have no problem drinking water with a big old cheesy turd in
> it—so long as he boiled it first.

Lie 4: A condition which “blackmore” omits was made. If I was dying
of thirst I certainly would. So would “blackmore.” Under those conditions he
would be lapping it up and comparing it to champagne.

At this point one thing is clear. Even though”blackmore” is not very
good at lying, it is all he has left.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Edeiken is distorting things again
Date: 28 Dec 1996 16:08:53 GMT
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> [email protected] (Fafner13) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, Yale F. Edeiken wrote:

> > I have your own admissions that:

> > 1. Your name is not Danish but German;
> Ole Kreiberg http://login.dknet.dk/~olk
(Page doesn`t exist)

> I don’t know why you bother to respond to all of this–he is trying to put
> you on the defensive.

He does becasue he can’t answer a straight question. When I gave a
post of nazi boy’s to a Dane I know to get her take on it, she laughed and told me
that the name was German.

When asked about it he has told several conflicting stories and some
absolute nonsense.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Criminal Giwer Starts to See the Light
Date: 28 Dec 1996 06:27:35 GMT
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> the Criminal Giwer fools himself:
> On 25 Dec 1996 02:08:35 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> > The Criminal Giwer having criminally harassed me and my family and
> >lied about consistently, asks for “forgiveness.”

> > Sorry, criminal, when has there even been an apology.

> Still harrassing GTE?

No. I’m still putting them on notice of your criminal activities and your
activities and your violations of the user agreement you signed with them.

Are you still sending anonymus hate mail to enter.net.

> When are they going to contact me?

> I really do want to have that conversation.

No. You don’t. You are just fooling yourself.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Correcting Giwer’s and Blackmore’s scientific ignorance
Date: 27 Dec 1996 23:51:08 GMT
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> [email protected] (Tutu101) writes:

> >> So please tell us, what reason did Kramer have to think that the
> river
> >>was polluted with such bacteria?

> Object. Calls for speculation. How would I know what Kramer was
> thinking?-rb

Yet you have repeated again and again that Kramer *thought* the
river was polluted.

> There is an ambiguity here which I should point out – the issue is (or
> should be) whether there are strains of dangerous bacteria which are
> completely immune to boiling. As I shall explain below, the issue of
> whether each and every cell is guaranteed to be killed by boiling (i.e.,
> total sterilization is achieved) is an irrelevant red herring.–MS?

> >>>Water Purifying

> >>>Treat all water as if polluted. Crystal-clear water could be
> >>>contaminated. Tap water polluted. Mountain stream running from a high
> >>>village or over a dead sheep.
> >>>Risks of cholera, thyphoid, dysentery, or schistosomiasis too
> >>>great….Various methods to purify water….So…to purify:

> >> Would you please explain, in your own words, what you think “Various
> >>methods to purify water” means?

blackmore has no answer.

> >>>Strain all water through a cloth or folded hankerchief to suspend grit,
> >>>gravel, dust, sand,…

> >> Please tell us how this kills bacteria.

> > Why would only a holohugger be dumd enough to read the purpose
for
> >doing it and then ask what his has to do with killing bacteria?–MG

> Why would only a “revisionist” have so little literacy that he cannot
> understand the irony and the purpose behind the question? Blackmore
> focused on bacteria. He did not establish that there was significant
> particulate matter in the river needing filtering in the first place.–MS

> Er–I focused on all the aspects involved. Bacteria was important due to
> the weakened immune systems of many camp inmates.–rb

Exactly. You boil the damned water.

> >But
> >perhaps you know better than you prentend and realiaze that bacteria
> >might survive the chemical process if in the crevice of suspended
> >particulates?

What *chemimal process.* Heat kills bacteria. You boil the damned
water.

> >> Please also produce evidence to demonstrate why Kramer and his
> staff,
> >>using any healthy prisoners if need be (since you have claimed that such
> >>were available), could not have implemented this measure.MS

> This is not necessary. Kramer had a calamity on his hands and it is easy
> for you to talk today about what he could and could not or should and
> should not have done. Kramer’s decision-and it was the right one–was to
> arrange for the surrender of the camp ASAP to the allies.–rb

That’s easy. He should have supplied the prisoners under his care
with food and water.

> As everyone also knows, you merely assert this. Is it really your
> claim that Kramer could not possibly have found a bit of clean cloth
> somewhere, or found someplace to wash a dirty one, if he had only exerted
> himself a little more? He himself was wearing filthy rags? Note that
> cloth is mentioned in addition to handkerchiefs. But you are illiterate,
> so perhaps you did not notice this. And you are dishonest, so perhaps you
> noticed this but did not mention it.–MS

> It would have taken more than a bit of clean cloth to deal with that mess.
> I suppose you think Kramer was “dressed to kill”? As a matter of fact,
> his appearance did not seem to be much better than some of the prisoners.

Yes. He would have had to have boiled the damned water. He
didn’t.

> >>>Boil hard for at least a minute (longer preferably)
> >>
> >> Please tell us why, if this is so totally useless due to the
> existence
> >>of bacteria which can survive boiling, the book bothers to list it.

> Fact is, the book lists these many methods of purification to be used
> jointly, in order for them to be effective.–RB

Fact is, you are lying again. Only two methods for killing the bacteria
were described. Boiling and chemical. There was no indication that they are
to be used “jointly.”

> COMMENT: We are talking about two different situations. What do you
know
> of the river from where the water was allegedly taken? Why don’t we start
> with that, first?–RB

Fine. What we know is that the locals used the water. What we
know is that the British pumped water directly into the camp. What we know is
that the water was potable. If you think differently the onus is upon you to
demonstrate it. So far all you have done is lied and giwered us with bad
science.

blackmore then tries to quote another source which disagrees with
him:

> FIELD WATER SUPPLIES

> METHODS OF PURIFICATION
>
> CHLORINATION—Chlorination is the method of choice and may be carried
out
> in the water sterilizing bag, in water carts, in small reservoirs, or by
> the mobile purification units operated by the Corps of Engineers.

> End of Quotes

The relevance is not shown. Boiling water has the same effect.

–YFE

From [email protected] Sun Dec 29 02:12:40 PST 1996
Article: 89708 of alt.revisionism
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Of Course Blackmore Doesn’t call folks names
Date: 28 Dec 1996 16:27:21 GMT
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> [email protected] (Fafner13) writes:
> I certainly do. And the criminal Giwer is a criminal.
>
> What do you mean by saying that Giwer is a criminal?
>
>>>>
I mean that he has committed criminal acts. Since you apparently
haven’t bothered to read what is happening perhaps you require some
enlightenment.

1. Growing tired of receiving email containing his virulent anti-Semitic
raving, I requested that the criminal Giwer cease sending me email and placed
his ISP on notice of the prohibition.

2. The criminal Giwer continued to send email even though
requested not to do so.

3. When asked for a third time to cease sending such unwanted
email, the criminal Giwer responded “I am tired of your shit. Fuck off.” The
clear meaning of that communication is that he would continue to do even
though requested not to. This communication meets the definition of “criminal
harassment.” This is, under the law in Pennsylvania (the relevant jurisdiction) a
misdemeanor of the third degree. A crime.

4. To demostrate the meaning of his post, the criminal Giwer, a few
days later, sent me another email addressed to “the jerkoff jew” including one of
his anti-Semitic rants. This, under the law of Pennsylvani (the relevant
jurisdiction) meets the definition of “ethnic harassment” (both statutes have
been posted). As such his criminal harassment has become a misdemeanor of
the second degree.

5. As a result of this harassment (and other improprieties including
mailbombing Nizkor) his account was terminated.

6. When the criminal Giwer found a new ISP both he and his new
ISP was put on notice of the prohibition (since the criminal Giwer posted it here,
he knew of the prohibition).

7. The criminal Giwer thereafter repeatd his criminal behavior by
sending futher email.

Hope this helps

–YFE

From [email protected] Sun Dec 29 02:12:41 PST 1996
Article: 89709 of alt.revisionism
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: The Criminal Giwer Starts to See the Light
Date: 28 Dec 1996 16:33:01 GMT
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> the criminal Giwer still won’t come clean:
> On 28 Dec 1996 06:27:35 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > No. I’m still putting them on notice of your criminal activities and your
> >activities and your violations of the user agreement you signed with them.

> > No. You don’t. You are just fooling yourself.

> You are telling them you are such a kowardly kike that you will not
> risk perjury to file real charges you little shit kike.

The criminal Giwer still insists that what happened will not happen.

–YFE

From [email protected] Sun Dec 29 07:33:53 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Dresden
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 1996 05:23:20 GMT, [email protected] (Doc
Savage)
> wrote:
>
> >On 25 Dec 1996 02:13:15 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> >
> >>> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> >>> On 24 Dec 1996 04:49:47 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
wrote:
> >>> > And your basis for saying that is?

> >>> Quit bluffing gutless lying shyster. You haven’t filed a thing and
> >>> you know it.

> >> Are you really telling me the criminal Giwer hasn’t told you?

> >> Another sucker heard from.

> > You ain’f filed a thing, lying kike shyster.

> Yale Eideken the criminal kike shyster should be disbarred for his
> crimes of aiding and abetting criminal fraud.

> A criminal indeed.

Sorry,little doggie, but hasn’t the criminal Giwer told you yet why he
changed his tagline?

BTW: do want the number of the Pa. Attorney Disciplinary Committee?
Or are you all mouth?

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Paranoiac Rage (was: Re: Christ Killers!
(was Re: Laughter is the Best Medicine)
Date: 28 Dec 1996 16:29:17 GMT
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> [email protected] (Doc Tor) writes:
> On 28 Dec 1996 07:13:32 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> the criminal Giwer displays his ignorance:

> Da widdle intimidated etnic posts again.

> The lying piece of kike shit does it again.

Note that the criminal Giwer, having been demonstrated a liar has no
response except calling names. The jury is going to love this post.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Turnabout is fair play?
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> [email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:

> How about some variety from you, Mr. Giwer. The kike-mouth slander is
> getting rather boring.

On the other hand, the repeated use does make it impossible for him to
claim to the jury that he blurted it out in a moment of rage.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: The Giwer Criminal is Caught Again
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> the Criminal Giwer lies:
> On 28 Dec 1996 06:32:36 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> >> > Apparently you believe the criminal Giwer.
> >
> >> > Hint: Ask him about his recent telephone conversation with gte.net.

> >> Why don’t you tell me about them? Please be specitic you lying
> >> kike.

> > Why don’t you remember what they told you?

> Because you lying kike, I have NEVER talked them. You lying little
> ethnic piece of shit.

They state that they called you.
> > Giwer you are so stupid it’s almost too easy.

> > Keep lying, old boy. And treasure those moments you have left with
> >gte.net.

> The little ethnic admits it is scared shitless of filing a real
> claim of a crime
>
> What more can we ask of an intimidated ethnic but that it whine and
> cry and wimper before it is turned into a lampshade.

The whining liar here is the criminal Giwer. Apparently the call from
GTE spooked him into reading the “hold harmless” clause.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: For Doc Tavish–Kramer III
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> the criminal Giwer obsfucates:
> On 24 Dec 1996 13:11:36 GMT, [email protected] (Brian Harmon)
> wrote:

> >In article <[email protected]>,
wrote:
>
> >> Many harmful bacteria in water may not be
> >>killed simply by boiling
.
> >There are few proteins than can survive such treatment,
> >and no known cells that can. Even proteins that do survive
> >it are often damaged.

> Then is it your considered opinion that all methods of canning
> including home canning cease to use the pressure method and merely use
> boiling water? Please be specific in your answer as the requirement
> for pressurized cooking has been known since the Napoleanic Wars and
> before Pasteur was born.

No, it is, most probably his opinion that you are a lying jerk. That is,
most simply put, because you are a lying jerk.

The “Ball Blue Book” (1995 edtion) states that bacteria are killed at a
temperature of 180 degrees F. (page 4) but that bacterial *spores* are not killed
until 240 degrees. Since the question is for water to be used immediately killing
the spores is irrelevant. Moreover pressure canning is needed *only* for low acid
foods; immersion in boiling water is sufficient for acid foods (page 4).

None of this is relevant. The question is purification of drinking water.
A topic that, seemingly, you know as little about as you do home canning.

> You folks can not be as ignorant as you pretend. That is a truly
> frightening thought.

The more frightening thought is that you might be as dishonest as you
seem.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Statement Of Restraint: Subject: Matt GiwerStatement Of Restraint:
Subject: Matt Giwer
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> [email protected] (The First One) writes:
> On 29 Dec 1996 04:36:26 GMT, [email protected] (Gord McFee) wrote:

[various scurrilous posts which might or might not have emanated from
the criminal Giwer or have been instigated by the criminal Giwer snipped]

> >Matty, are you so hard up you are back to forging posts to yourself? You
> >tried it last year and you *lost*. Are you trying it again, so you can *lose*
> >again?

> >What a *loser*.

> >Gord McFee

> Your response, in and of itself, constitutes a further distribution
> of libelous claims and without the disclaimer includes IBM in it.

Stop laughing Gord. It just isn’t fair.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Statement Of Restraint: Subject: Matt GiwerStatement Of Restraint:
Subject: Matt Giwer
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> the Criminal Giwer whines:
> On 30 Dec 1996 02:52:11 GMT, [email protected] (Gord McFee) wrote:

> >:> Your response, in and of itself, constitutes a further distribution
> >:>of libelous claims and without the disclaimer includes IBM in it.

> >Goodie. Then complain to IBM and try to get them to fire me.

> >I say that you forged the post, Matty. Prove you didn’t.

> The burden of proof is of course on you. And yes, there was a
> report filed with them as your ISP if not employer. As such you bear
> equal liability with the kike skum who is spreading it.

But did you sign your name to the complaint or was it just anonymus
harassment as you did with my ISP?

I can hear McFee laughing from hundreds of miles away.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Correcting Giwer’s and Blackmore’s scientific ignorance
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> the criminal Giwer still doesn’t know much about science:
> On 26 Dec 1996 02:43:08 -0500, [email protected] (Michael P.
> Stein) wrote:

> >>>> I will wager that you never read a book on emergency health
> >>>>measures. *All* bacteria can be killed by boiling water.

> >>>> Now you are giwering us with fake “science.”

> >>>> –YFE

> >>>>Yale. you are going to bite the big one with that remark…all bacteria
> >>>>can NOT be killed by boiling.

> > You are correct – I was not aware of Pasteur listing any bacteria
> >which are immune to boiling. Perhaps you would care to list such material?
> >You can’t? Why am I not surprised?

> > There is an ambiguity here which I should point out – the issue is (or
> >should be) whether there are strains of dangerous bacteria which are
> >completely immune to boiling. As I shall explain below, the issue of
> >whether each and every cell is guaranteed to be killed by boiling (i.e.,
> >total sterilization is achieved) is an irrelevant red herring.

> Yes, it is agreed that holohuggers are unaware that all canning
> including those cans they buy in the grocery are are cooked under
> pressure so that the temperature rises to around 240F for
> sterilization.

That is to sterilize the *cans* you ignorant dolt. Ask ayone who works
or has worked in a microbiology laboratory. It has nothing whatsoever to do
with purifying water.

> You ignorant fools have not the least idea what you do not know.

But we are well aware of what you do not know.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: the Criminal Giwer: Idiot or Doofus?
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> another asinine legal opinion from the Criminal Giwer:
> On 27 Dec 1996 16:29:51 GMT, [email protected] (william c
> anderson) wrote:

> >Kurt Stele ([email protected]) wrote:

> >: You miss the point of course. The state is enforcing Jewish dietary
> >: laws as such. The state has specific laws for the enforcement of
> >: kosher laws.

> >It’s probably redundant to point out that Brian Smith is lying–but
> >this is, of course, a lie. The law he posted stated only that
> >manufacturers could not label a product “Kosher” if it was not, in
> >fact, Kosher.

> But then the law is either unenforceable or the state must be in a
> position to make a formal determination of what constitutes kosher.
> For example, if it is in accordance with biblical laws then a
> cheeseburger can be labeled kosher as long as the source of the
> hamburger is appropriate.

Wrong. All that need be shown is that no Kosher approval was obtained.
The law concerns the misrepresentation not the fact of being Kosher.

> It certainly puts the state in a position where to enforce the law
> it must adopt a legal standard for what is kosher as there is no clear
> meaning. As with the cheeseburger example, or in regards to even
> “smelling” them as in a recent stupid eruption over a MacDonald’s, the
> state would be required to codify kosher in order to act.

No. All it has to do is show that no Kosher approval was obtained. The
law concerns the misrepresentation not whether the goods were Kosher or not.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Mr. Giwer’s mailbomb
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> The Criminal Giwer, knowing the game is up babbles:
> On 28 Dec 1996 00:40:43 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> > The Criminal Giwer knows differently. Why is he afraid to tell his
> >cohorts what is going on?

> The po widdle intimidated etnic has a new claim, der is sumpthin
> goin on. AWWWWWWW. Look how initimidated it is.

As the criminal Giwer well knows.

> Why not tell the world what is going on? And make a bigger lying
> kike shyster of yourself than you have so far?

It’s too much fun watching you get in deeper and deeper.

> I know, da po widdle etnic is too intimidated to do so.

Why don’t you tell them about the frantic telephone calls from gte.net?

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: the Criminal Giwer: Idiot or Doofus?
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> [email protected] (Doc Tor) writes:
> On 28 Dec 1996 00:30:47 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:

> >> another asinine legal opinion from the Criminal Giwer:

> Look at the silly little intimidated etnic post.

And, of course, make a fool of the criminal Giwer.

> >> But then the law is either unenforceable or the state must be in a
> >> position to make a formal determination of what constitutes kosher.
> >> For example, if it is in accordance with biblical laws then a
> >> cheeseburger can be labeled kosher as long as the source of the
> >> hamburger is appropriate.

> > Wrong. All that need be shown is that no Kosher approval was obtained.
> >The law concerns the misrepresentation not the fact of being Kosher.

> A law REQUIRING a legally undefined approval? Sounds great to me.
> I will sell all the approvals anyone wants. Anyone can sell them.
> UNLESS of course the law determines who is qualified to sell such
> approvals, requiring liscening of Kosher sellers and the like.

No, a law requiring that representations made on the label be accurate. No
law is required to deal with the Kosher seal.

> >> It certainly puts the state in a position where to enforce the law
> >> it must adopt a legal standard for what is kosher as there is no clear
> >> meaning. As with the cheeseburger example, or in regards to even
> >> “smelling” them as in a recent stupid eruption over a MacDonald’s, the
> >> state would be required to codify kosher in order to act.

> > No. All it has to do is show that no Kosher approval was obtained. The
> >law concerns the misrepresentation not whether the goods were Kosher or not.

> Anyone wanting to purchase kosher approval can find my address
> posted here. The state does NOT establish in law who may grant it nor
> does it require you to identify your source.

Wrong on the second point. And anyone who represents that the product is
kosher based on your opinion would clearly be committing a fraud.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] (Joel Rosenberg) writes:

> And what’s wrong? You [the criminal Giwer] got through a whole message
without
gibbering, and
> without a single “kike” or “fatbroad”.

He received a telephone call from gte.net.

Too little.

Too late.

But he knows that already.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] writes:

> For some reason, this post disappeared from my server, so here is a repost.
> BTW, the header is meant to be PARODY, and NOT to be taken as
anti-Semitic.
> If Danny Keren, Alstine, et. al. can refer to me as “Nazi” ( I don’t know whether
they
> are serious), then I can post this as a headline.

It’s anti-Semitic and you know it. Coupled with your distribution of
anti-Semitic poetry, it is pretty conclusive.

> Concerning the on-going debate of whether the river water at Belsen was fit to
drink, here
> is a special section from the book, “Basic Field Manual–Military Sanitation and
> First Aid”, published by the United States War Department:
> METHODS OF PURIFICATION-

> Boiling–Boiling is the safest method, but is undesireable because of the flat
taste
> and because of the lack of containers for boiling other than small quantities.

In other words, this is exactly what you have been denying for months.

CHLORINATION-

> Chlorination is the method of choice and may be carried out in the water
sterilizing bag
> (Lyster bag) in water carts, in small reservoirs, or by the mobile purification units
> operated by the Corps of Engineers. The exact amount of chlorine required will
vary
> with the characterisics of the water being treated. Water containing
considerable
> organic matter requires considerably more chlorine than does clear water.

> Now, if anyone has the honesty to admit it, this post should decisively settle
this
> water business at Belsen once and for all.

It certainly does. It proves you have been lying.

> The dishonest die-hards and true believers
> like Yale E. will holler, shimmy, shake, and do all sorts of contortions, yet the
facts
> stand indisputable by themselves.

Yes. “Boiling is the safest method.” Exactly what everybody but
“blackmore” has been stating all along.

> If ever there was a case for the mass spreading of
> an epidemic, Belsen was the location. Tens of thousands of seriously ill
inmates
> transferred during the last 2 months of the war into a camp which could only
> accomdate a fraction of that number.

And. although there were kitchen facilities available (that were not in
use because Kramer did not bother to feed his victims), Kramer made no effort to
get potable water by “the safest method.”

> Filth everywhere, mainly brought about by the
> personal foul habits of many of the inmates themselves, who preferred
wallowing in
> filth rather than lift a finger to tidy their surroundings.

What a liar. It should be noted that at some camps having a hand
towel was a capital offense.

> (Note that this does not refer to
> the seriously ill, who were housed in the infirmary.) I need not elaborate on any
other
> aspects clearly stated in the War Department manual.

Yes. once you qoute the line “Boiling is the safest method.” Your
house of cards is fairly well demolished.

–YFE

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> the criminal Giwer demonstrates his ignorance of the law:
> On Mon, 30 Dec 1996 10:41:23 -0600, [email protected] wrote:
> >Wrong again: HateWatch is not run by Harvard Law School it is an
independent
> >organization, so get over it. By the way the photo of your face is not
> >in violation of us or international copyright. So get over that one too.
> >You seem to have only two or three notes and play them over and over and
over…
> >You are droning is annoying and worthless. So get over it.

> >Sam Macy
> >Director of HateWatch – http://hatewatch.org
> >[email protected]

> And I am certain you can provide the paper trail showing that the
> transfer of the intellectual property of HLS was in fact transferred
> for a financial compensation equivalent to the hours of effort and
> fractional costs of the equipment and facilitities HLS put into its
> original creation. If not, you do not have a separate organization
> but rather a sham organization, a shell front, that first year
> students at Yale Law School are taught to pierce.

Yes, it’s usually first year law students who try to “pierce the corporate
veil.” As a second year law student knows, it is not their burden to prove the
“paper trail” it is your burden to show by “clear and convincing” evidence
(considered by many legal scholars to be a stricter burden than “beyond a
reasonable doubt”) that the organization is a sham.

> If you claim it was a gift and if you are not a tax exempt
> organization (at the time of acceptance of the gift) then you have
> received a gift that is valued upon the above basis and income taxes
> are due upon the fair market value of that gift. You folks are aware
> of the tax laws are you not?

Are you? A gift is *not* income. The burden for the payment of the
separate Gift Tax (a separate law) lies upon the giver of the gift. Moreover tax
exempt organizations are certainly permitted to give tax exempt grants to other
individuals and organization *without* paying the gift tax.

> As I noted originally, even the Clinton’s had the sense to go to
> Yale.

And to learn the law before he started mouthing off about it.

–YFE

From [email protected] Tue Dec 31 09:10:59 PST 1996
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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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Subject: Re: Edeiken is distorting things again
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> [email protected] (Ole Kreiberg) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, Fafner13
wrote:
> >
> >I don’t know why you bother to respond to all of this–he is trying to put
> >you on the defensive.
>
> Perhaps, but it started with him calling me a nazi, because I refuse to
> believe in the holocaust story.

Actually it started with your amorous attachment to the nazi philosophy,
your silly defenses of their actions, your open lying, and your proposal that Danish
citizens of an ethnicity that displeases you should be deprived of their human rights,
rounded up and thrown into concentration camps.

> Then I told him that Hitler said several
> times that national socialism knows only Germany and is not meant for
> export.

Which you have yet to support with a single reference. Nor have you
explained Hitler’s finacing and other backing for nazi parties in other countries
including the U.S.

> Then he tried to “prove” that I might really be an ethnic German.
> Not that I have anything personal against individual Germans but I do not
> like anyone to get the impression that I am one.

I have not tried to “prove” it. You have done so with your contradictory
stories. Actually the suggestion was made by a Dane who, when she saw one of
your posts noted that your name was German rather than Danish.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > > [email protected] writes:

> > > For some reason, this post disappeared from my server, so here is a repost.
> > > BTW, the header is meant to be PARODY, and NOT to be taken as
> > anti-Semitic.
> > > If Danny Keren, Alstine, et. al. can refer to me as “Nazi” ( I don’t know
whether
> > they
> > > are serious), then I can post this as a headline.

> > It’s anti-Semitic and you know it. Coupled with your distribution of
> > anti-Semitic poetry, it is pretty conclusive.

> Nonsense.–rb

Sorry. You are dead wrong and you know it.

> > Yes. once you qoute the line “Boiling is the safest method.” Your
> > house of cards is fairly well demolished.

> , you obviously failed to “get the point”, as did
> Mike Stein……

“Boiling is the safest method.”

.boiling the water without suitable containers for 60,000 people
> was completely impractical at belsen. this is in complete agreement with the
> text of the military manual.

“Boiling is the safest method.” Now please document your assertion that
the water could not have been boiled. Kramer had a complete kitchen complex he
was not using.

> The preferred method would have been chlorination
> in specially fitted dispenser bags, which could accomodate the great number of
> people in the camp.

“Boiling is the safest method.” Chorination is preferred not because it is
better but because it is cheaper, quicker, and uses less manpower. Since it was not
available the method available had to be used. It wasn’t.

> The british obviously brought these items with them from their
> field units.

“Obviously.” Please give us something besides your perceptions to back
this up. If that was what the British were up to, why did they abandon that effort
when they discovered pumping equipment in the camp.

> Look at the documentary produced by hitchcock and narrated by
> Trevor howard, and you will see what I am referirng to here. As usual, you are
> wrong, and Giwer and I are right Just when you think it is safe to enter the
> water, some dumb shark comes up and bites you on the ass.

The idiot who got the shark bite seems to be you, for as you point out
“Boiling is the safest method.”

Everything else you and the criminal Giwer have said is hot air.

–YFE

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From: [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
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> [email protected] writes:
> [email protected] (Michael P. Stein) writes:

> Because! I! Say! So!

> I repeat: take all the cookpots you have. Use them round the clock
> if need be. The cookpots were not used round the clock for preparing
> food. You need not boil all the water at once.
> COMMENT:
> It is easy for you to state what SHOULD have been done, speaking from the
> comfort of your home.

On the other hand it is very easy to sit in the comfort of your home and
describe what couldn’t have been done. As everyone know “Boiling is the safest
method.” of purifying water.

>The fact is the situation was not as you assume.

Please present some evidence (you know what that is, it is something
besides your assertions) that the unused kitchen facilities could not have handled
the job.

> to the British authorities ASAP. That thousands of human beings continued to
die after
> the british took over command of the camp is probably due to the fact that they
seemed
> to have given unsterilized water to inmates whose health was already
compromised
> by serious, life-threatening intestinal ailments. The British later blamed Kramer
> for the deaths for which they themselves were fully responsible.

This is utter nonsense. First you claim that the British were purifying the
water and next you claim that they were giving the prisoners “unsterilized water.”
Please make up your mind as to which lie you wish to promote now. But while
you’re doing it please do not forget:

“Boiling is the safest method.”

The key factor here, whether
> you realize it yet or not, is that these thousands of people were suffering from
severe
> intestinal ailments–life-threatening ailments–and if the water was NOT properly
> sterilized with CHLORINE and FILTERED, as it came from the river full of
sediment
> and God knows what else, further casualities would result.

But, as you noted “Boiling is the safest method.” Kramer did not use it.

> Indeed, there are certain strains of bacteria which apparently are not killed by
boiling, according
> to other sources, which I will post when I find them. If error occurred, it is the
error of the
> authorities I read, if at all, and which I posted an opinion. In any event, my
arguments
> are not the least bit affected by the “revelations” as has been proved above.–rb

Please post these sources which states that bacteria is *not* killed by
boiling water or heat. Please also explain why this is the method used in every
microbiology lab that I have ever been in. Indeed as your own source notes
“Boiling is the safest method.”

–YFE

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