Credibility toilet, Giwer Matt

In article <[email protected]>,
Matt Giwer wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:23:45 -0400, [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) wrote:

>>[email protected] (Matt Giwer) wrote:

>>>> Chris Lewis

>>> In fact I pointed out to him how he was being so easily used by the
>>> holohuggers in their harrassment campaign and he stopped his efforts.

>>Mr. Giwer appears to be claiming that someone contacted Mr. Lewis and
>>_asked_ him to cancel Mr. Giwer’s spam several weeks ago. I regret to
>>inform Mr. Giwer that Mr. Lewis’s spam-cancellations are determined by a
>>computer algorithm, not by human whim. Furthermore, nobody I know has
>>contacted Mr. Lewis, and certainly not to call his attention to the spam
>>of Mr. Giwer.

>>In short, Mr. Giwer is trolling with lies, again.

>>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/cancels.0796

>>Posted; emailed “FYI” to Mr. Lewis, with a nod of thanks for continuing
>>to perform his thankless job.

> Do you think you have any credibility after the stupid shit you
>have been emailing?

For the record:

1) I was not contacted by anyone except you.
2) I am not being “used” by anyone – when someone spams, they get
cancelled. I could care less what the postings are about.
3) The only reason why I “stopped [my] efforts” is because you
stopped spamming.
4) If you spam again, you will be cancelled again.

Now that your credibility is in the toilet, we’ll return to the usual
flamewar.

“I can’t stand this proliferation of paperwork. It’s useless to fight
the forms. You’ve got to kill the people producing them.”
— Vladimir Kabaidze, 64, General Director of Ivanovo Machine Building Works

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From: [email protected] (Chris Lewis)
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Subject: Re: The Score — posting stats, June 22-July 19
Date: 22 Jul 1996 17:17:50 GMT
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From: [email protected] (Matt Giwer)
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Subject: Re: The Score — posting stats, June 22-July 19
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:53:47 GMT
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On 22 Jul 1996 17:17:50 GMT, [email protected] (Chris Lewis) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>Matt Giwer wrote:
>>On Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:23:45 -0400, [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) wrote:

>>>[email protected] (Matt Giwer) wrote:

>>>>> Chris Lewis

>>>> In fact I pointed out to him how he was being so easily used by the
>>>> holohuggers in their harrassment campaign and he stopped his efforts.

>>>Mr. Giwer appears to be claiming that someone contacted Mr. Lewis and
>>>_asked_ him to cancel Mr. Giwer’s spam several weeks ago. I regret to
>>>inform Mr. Giwer that Mr. Lewis’s spam-cancellations are determined by a
>>>computer algorithm, not by human whim. Furthermore, nobody I know has
>>>contacted Mr. Lewis, and certainly not to call his attention to the spam
>>>of Mr. Giwer.

>>>In short, Mr. Giwer is trolling with lies, again.

>>>http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/g/giwer.matt/net-abuse/cancels.0796

>>>Posted; emailed “FYI” to Mr. Lewis, with a nod of thanks for continuing
>>>to perform his thankless job.

>> Do you think you have any credibility after the stupid shit you
>>have been emailing?

>For the record:

> 1) I was not contacted by anyone except you.
> 2) I am not being “used” by anyone – when someone spams, they get
> cancelled. I could care less what the postings are about.
> 3) The only reason why I “stopped [my] efforts” is because you
> stopped spamming.
> 4) If you spam again, you will be cancelled again.

>Now that your credibility is in the toilet, we’ll return to the usual
>flamewar.

With your trivial credibility on the line, I would not admit anything either.

You were used.

You have no business or authority doing what you are claiming to do.

You need to be cut off at the knees.

Patience. It will happen.

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From: [email protected] (Chris Lewis)
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Subject: Re: The Score — posting stats, June 22-July 19
Date: 23 Jul 1996 18:59:22 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>,
Matt Giwer wrote:
>On 22 Jul 1996 17:17:50 GMT, [email protected] (Chris Lewis) wrote:

>>For the record:

>> 1) I was not contacted by anyone except you.
>> 2) I am not being “used” by anyone – when someone spams, they get
>> cancelled. I could care less what the postings are about.
>> 3) The only reason why I “stopped [my] efforts” is because you
>> stopped spamming.
>> 4) If you spam again, you will be cancelled again.

>>Now that your credibility is in the toilet, we’ll return to the usual
>>flamewar.

>
> With your trivial credibility on the line, I would not admit
> anything either.

“Trivial credibility”? Just what is it that you’re smoking?

> You were used.

Liar.

> You have no business or authority doing what you are claiming to do.

Liar.

> You need to be cut off at the knees.
> Patience. It will happen.

Oh goody, another threat to be saved for my eccentric and deranged file.
You’re in good company with the rest of the ranters and droolers.

Incidentally, Ken, you really should have copies of the full blown spam
reports on your web site – the cancels themselves are quite boring.

They have messageids: <[email protected]>
and <[email protected]>

“I can’t stand this proliferation of paperwork. It’s useless to fight
the forms. You’ve got to kill the people producing them.”
— Vladimir Kabaidze, 64, General Director of Ivanovo Machine Building Works