I know that there has been a lot of noise about a mailing sent by someone
at “national-alliance.org”, that turned out to be a hoax by someone at
sfu. For the real story on the National Alliance, call the answering
service nearest you.
Main office: (304) 653-4600
California: (818) 725-3430
Florida: (407) 275-6815
Illinois: (708) 818-4045
Maryland: (410) 813-4105
Mississippi: (601) 373-6290
Nevada: (702) 434-1994
New Jersey: (201) 697-1011
New York: (212) 388-2655
North Carolina: (919) 742-2438
Ohio: (216) 846-1045
Ottawa: (613) 834-7960
Virginia: (703) 715-6050 or (804) 673-7350
or check out the Web page at: http://www.natvan.com
or you can write to them for information at:
National Alliance
P.O. Box 90
Hillsboro, WV
24946 U.S.A.
Tell ’em Sylvie Charbonneau sent ya!
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Tue Oct 3 11:37:58 PDT 1995
Article: 10291 of alt.revisionism
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
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Big O ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected]
> (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>
>> |I know that there has been a lot of noise about a mailing sent by someone
>> |at “national-alliance.org”, that turned out to be a hoax by someone at
>> |sfu. For the real story on the National Alliance, call the answering
>> |service nearest you.
>
> Sure it was a hoax! You should see the choice shoreline property on Lake
> Owens (Calif) I have for sale.
Would you believe a jew more than you believe me? Check this out…
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From: [email protected] (James Cohen)
Subject: Re: American Nazi propaganda
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([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>> [email protected] (David Reilley) writes:
>>
>> > Is anyone wlse receiving private e-mail of a long white supremist essay
callet
>> > the long march?
>>
>> I got the same message, although the return address on mine was
>> C[email protected], still bogus but different from yours.
>
> And then this morning I ran across the following article, cross-posted from
> soc.culture.jewish. Apparently, it was an anti-racist group that sent the
> email spam, in hopes of getting the white supremacists’ net access
> revoked. I’m still inclined to shoot the messenger, no matter how well-
> intentioned they were. At any rate, here’s the details:
> ========================================================
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
> From: [email protected] (Harvey S. Cohen)
> Subject: National Alliance hate email is HOAX
> Message-ID:
> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 16:40:24 GMT
>
> Here is a message from the AT&T gatekeeper. To summarize: The email is a HOAX.
> DO NOT RESPOND WITH EMAIL TO ANYONE.
> —————-Begin forwarded message———————————
> A large number of AT&T folks have gotten an email message from
> “[email protected]” titled “The Long March.” What follows is
> an explanation of what happened, and what you can do to make the messages
> go away sooner.
>
> That message has a forged address…please do not reply to it. You’ll only
> end up wasting time composing a message, which will sit in a spool
> directory on the gateways for a few days until it times out, at which time
> you’ll get a bounce message saying that the host national-alliance.org (or
> national-alliance, if you responded to the first batch of messages) cannot
> be found. (I see that 41 people have already fallen victim to the trap and
> replied.) I’ve just spoken to the technical contact for Netgate
> Communications, the Internet Service Provider (ISP) for the National
> Alliance. Yes, the group does exist, and the content of the message that
> you received is from their material, but the National Alliance did not
> send the spam.
>
> There have been two originating addresses of the spams so far: a site in
> France, and San Francisco State University. It seems that the spammed
> message is being sent by a group of people who are bitterly opposed to
> these National Alliance folks, and are trying to get the National Alliance
> pulled off of the net by making as many people as they can reach get mad
> and mail/spam/hack/whatever the National Alliance and their ISP. I’m told
> that the National Alliance’s mailbox is getting something like 10MB of mail
> every hour. Many, many calls and mail messages have been sent to their ISP
> complaining of the spam.
>
> The National Alliance is going to have their domain deactivated by the
> InterNIC at least until this blows over. Again, the mail you received did
> not come from them: it was sent by someone who is trying to get you mad
> enough at the National Alliance to complain to them and/or their ISP. I’d
> consider it a denial-of-service attack.
>
> It is possible that these spams will continue until the domain is yanked,
> and possibly shortly thereafter. Please do not take any action if you
> receive subsequent messages: just delete them, and the whole thing will go
> away much faster. You might want to consider using a filter on your mailbox
> (such as Z-mail’s filter, the exptool “ferret”, or the free program
> “procmail”) which will direct all mail from “national-alliance.org” to be
> sent to the bit bucket. Please see your local system or network administrator
> for questions about filtering your mail.
> ——————-End forwarded message—————————-
>
> email: [email protected] Scott Baxter
> web: http://www.hookup.net/~baxter (Page doesn`t exist)
> Promise from the Win ’95 theme song: “You make a grown man cry!”
—
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Mon Oct 16 07:04:50 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: National Alliance info
Message-ID:
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Call the National Alliance answering service.
Main office: (304) 653-4600
California: (818) 725-3430
Florida: (407) 275-6815
Illinois: (708) 818-4045
Maryland: (410) 813-4105
Mississippi: (601) 373-6290
Nevada: (702) 434-1994
New Jersey: (201) 697-1011
New York: (212) 388-2655
North Carolina: (919) 742-2438
Ohio: (216) 846-1045
Ottawa: (613) 834-7960
Virginia: (703) 715-6050 or (804) 673-7350
or write to them at:
National Alliance
P.O. Box 90
Hillsboro, WV
24946 U.S.A.
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Mon Oct 16 10:59:07 PDT 1995
Article: 4475 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Crazy Jeannie wants me! (was: Crazy Jeannie: what a hoot!)
Message-ID:
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KT ([email protected]) writes:
Jeannie writes:
>>Harlequin Romance? Those are lined up on the shelf right next to Sylvie’s
>>Reader’s Digest condensed books, right? BWAHAHAHAHA! Watch out — they’ll
>>rot her mind. Does she ever slip up and call out, “Favio” at inopportune
^^^^^^^^
“Favio”????? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Jeannie, you’ve just proven how out of
touch with reality you are. Last I heard, his name was Fabio. And you
can’t say that it was a typo, since you did it more than once. You’re
such a twit.
>>times?
>>BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Isn’t Favio tall and blond like Hitler? Bought any wigs lately?
^^^^^^^^
Strike three and you’re out, Jeannie.
>>* Les
>>who just doesn’t know when to shut up on alt.white.inbred.losers
>>Jeanne K.
who doesn’t know the difference between her arse and a hole in the ground
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Mon Oct 16 11:03:13 PDT 1995
Article: 6052 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Devil Cave Bitch Sylvie Charbonneau
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Joseph Hin-bun Mak ([email protected]) writes:
> [ Article crossposted from alt.politics.white-power ]
> [ Author was Joseph Hin-bun Mak ]
> [ Posted on 7 Oct 1995 16:21:58 GMT ]
>
> Sylvie Charbonneau ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> : Joseph Hin-bun Mak ([email protected]) writes:
> : > I was on that Documentary, and I recall during the interviews,
> : > the producer told me how D.C.B. Lester was invited to share his
> : > beliefs by putting his face next to his comments. Then she told
> : > me how Poor little D.C.B. Lester was a coward, cause he backed
> : > out cause he was scared a big Asian or Afrikan would confront his
> : > sorry Devil Cave Bitch ass, and show him the degree of validity
> : > in his statements…
> : >
> : > quite amusing, when I think back to it…
>
> : No, what was quite amusing was seeing your sickly-yellow skin, hollow
> : cheeks, and shifty eyes. What’s the matter, Joseph, that all-rice diet
> : not working out for you? Here’s a tip: try getting your butt out of the
> : computer chair and into the sunshine.
>
> : Gawd, you’re really pathetic! You think you’re something special because
> : some two-bit reporter from the CBC showed your ugly mug on television?
> : You need to get out more (or at all).
>
> Ok Devil, let’s get this on… I remember Cave Bitches like
> Zundel, two stupid nerd wannabe skinheads with the past of never
> speaking to anyone, McAdler who is a bug killer, who sits in the
> basement all day doing God knows what, however there was no
> D.C.B. Sylvie Charbonneau on. At least these “strong aryan
> soldiers” were brave enough to put a face behind their comments.
> I asked Ms Davis about you and Cave Bitch Lester, and she said
> y’all were just too afraid to stand behind your “oh-so
> intelligent” words…
We don’t speak to the media anymore. What’s the old expression… Once
bitten, twice shy. They’re going to say whatever they want about us
anyway, so why should we give them any ammunition? Les was interviewed
once. The topic was supposed to be on immigration. It was never
discussed. Instead, he was questionned about the NA, the Heritage Front,
recruiting practices, skinheads, etc… but never immigration. This was
for Radio-Canada. Since then, we’ve sworn never to speak to reporters,
ESPECIALLY ones from the CBC.
> Go back to your hole, Devil Cave Bitch…
Get out into the sunshine, Mak. It might do you some good.
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Mon Oct 16 11:03:14 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Black inventions (was: N*GG*R)
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Sid Miller ([email protected]) writes:
> [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>
> “Hurray!!! We have three, count ’em, three, black inventions. Can we
> go
> “for four? How about a dozen. I’ll take up the old wager that was
> posted
> “a few monts ago. For every black invention, I’ll bet that I can post
> 10
> “White inventions. Are you ready? Set? Go!!! Start scrolling off
> those
> “black inventions now!!!
>
> all right sylvie, i’ll accept your challenge. you’re gonna have to
> reel off twenty inventions because peanut butter is supposed to count
> as two inventions: smooth and crunchy.
So, according to your calculations, I could claim EVERY different wattage
and variety of light bulb ever invented as a seperate invention, right?
All right, here goes:
-5 W, 10W, 15W, 20W, 25W, 30W, 40W, 50W, 60W, 75W, 100W, 150W,
300W, halogen, incandescant, fluorescent, radium, mercury vapour, neon and
argon lights. There’s 20, and I remembered all of those in less than 2
minutes. How many more black inventions can you think up? I posted that
message two weeks ago, and this is the only response I’ve gotten. What’s
the matter, run out of inventions already?
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Mon Oct 16 11:03:15 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Crazy Jeannie wants me! (was: Crazy Jeannie: what a hoot!)
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KT ([email protected]) writes:
Jeannie writes:
>>Harlequin Romance? Those are lined up on the shelf right next to Sylvie’s
>>Reader’s Digest condensed books, right? BWAHAHAHAHA! Watch out — they’ll
>>rot her mind. Does she ever slip up and call out, “Favio” at inopportune
^^^^^^^^
“Favio”????? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Jeannie, you’ve just proven how out of
touch with reality you are. Last I heard, his name was Fabio. And you
can’t say that it was a typo, since you did it more than once. You’re
such a twit.
>>times?
>>BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Isn’t Favio tall and blond like Hitler? Bought any wigs lately?
^^^^^^^^
Strike three and you’re out, Jeannie.
>>* Les
>>who just doesn’t know when to shut up on alt.white.inbred.losers
>>Jeanne K.
who doesn’t know the difference between her arse and a hole in the ground
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Tue Oct 24 08:14:37 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Where we choose to live… (was: The Spectre of McCarthyism)
Message-ID:
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Mayhaps you could tell us when multiCULTURISM became multi-
> RACIALISM because I’m really kind of foggy on when that change
> occurred.
Around 1967. That’s when Canada became “multicultural”. But even you
should know that this means multiracialism. Before 1967, immigration was
95% European. Now, it’s about 10% European. Every immigrant from the
third world just has to say the three magic words, and the money just
starts pouring in.
> Does this mean you think the French, Spanish, Germans,
> Norwegians and Swedish are not in the same racial category as
> English-speaking Canadians because they recieve money from the
> Multiculturalism, have their activities supported and promoted, etc
> etc? Come to think of it, there’s an Irish festival in Miramichi
> and the Highland festival in Cape Breton that also have recieved
> some support from that department. Does this mean the Irish and
> Scottish are also seperate races?
Not seperate races. Seperate cultures. I have no problem with
multiculturalism, as long as it doesn’t include multiracialism.
In fact, we should be spending more money promoting the culture of the
Irish, Scottish, English, etc… and NO money promoting Ghanian, Somalian,
Jamaican,etc… “cultures”. After all, White people settled, built,
fought and died for this country. Non-White immigrants just want a free
ride on the gravy train. When there’s no more gravy, they’ll move on
somewhere else.
> Inquiring minds want to know.
Hope this helps.
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:37:36 PDT 1995
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Subject: Re: Where we choose to live… (was: The Spectre of McCarthyism)
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Mayhaps you could tell us when multiCULTURISM became multi-
> RACIALISM because I’m really kind of foggy on when that change
> occurred.
Around 1967. That’s when Canada became “multicultural”. But even you
should know that this means multiracialism. Before 1967, immigration was
95% European. Now, it’s about 10% European. Every immigrant from the
third world just has to say the three magic words, and the money just
starts pouring in.
> Does this mean you think the French, Spanish, Germans,
> Norwegians and Swedish are not in the same racial category as
> English-speaking Canadians because they recieve money from the
> Multiculturalism, have their activities supported and promoted, etc
> etc? Come to think of it, there’s an Irish festival in Miramichi
> and the Highland festival in Cape Breton that also have recieved
> some support from that department. Does this mean the Irish and
> Scottish are also seperate races?
Not seperate races. Seperate cultures. I have no problem with
multiculturalism, as long as it doesn’t include multiracialism.
In fact, we should be spending more money promoting the culture of the
Irish, Scottish, English, etc… and NO money promoting Ghanian, Somalian,
Jamaican,etc… “cultures”. After all, White people settled, built,
fought and died for this country. Non-White immigrants just want a free
ride on the gravy train. When there’s no more gravy, they’ll move on
somewhere else.
> Inquiring minds want to know.
Hope this helps.
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:37:37 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Where we choose to live… (was: The Spectre of McCarthyism)
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau) writes:
>>Keith Morrison ([email protected]) writes:
>>
>>(snip)
>>> Mayhaps you could tell us when multiCULTURISM became multi-
>>> RACIALISM because I’m really kind of foggy on when that change
>>> occurred.
>>
>>Around 1967. That’s when Canada became “multicultural”. But even you
>>should know that this means multiracialism. Before 1967, immigration was
>>95% European. Now, it’s about 10% European. Every immigrant from the
>>third world just has to say the three magic words, and the money just
>>starts pouring in.
> Of course, it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that
> whereas before the government actively sought and encouraged
> Europeans above all others to come and immigrate at actively
> discouraged others, they then decided to open the doors to anyone,
> and since most people wanting to move would have come from 3rd world
> countries, this would have then caused the demographic change.
You make it sound like European immigration is a bad thing, Keith.
Opening the doors to third world immigrants opened up a Pandora’s box
of problems, such as the re-emergence of funky little diseases like
tuberculosis, various Asian flus, leprosy, etc… Not to mention the fact
that many African immigrants carry the AIDS virus. The welfare system is
being sucked dry by these same immigrants, who go from town to town
collecting under many names and addresse (the Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal
triangle being the most famous). In fact, just last week, there was a
news story about how a group of Somalis ripped off over $80 million
dollars from welfare in under two years. TWO YEARS!!!!! Europeans
commiting welfare (and other) fraud are a minority. A majority of
minorities rip off the system.
>
> What an idiot.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Black pride? Where?
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aria ([email protected]) writes:
> So what’s left?
>>
>> Les
> michael jordan, bryant gumbel, and ru paul.
^^^^^^^^^
You can claim a seven foot tall drag queen as a symbol of pride? Amazing!
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:44 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) writes:
(snip)
> Mayhaps you could tell us when multiCULTURISM became multi-
> RACIALISM because I’m really kind of foggy on when that change
> occurred.
Around 1967. That’s when Canada became “multicultural”. But even you
should know that this means multiracialism. Before 1967, immigration was
95% European. Now, it’s about 10% European. Every immigrant from the
third world just has to say the three magic words, and the money just
starts pouring in.
> Does this mean you think the French, Spanish, Germans,
> Norwegians and Swedish are not in the same racial category as
> English-speaking Canadians because they recieve money from the
> Multiculturalism, have their activities supported and promoted, etc
> etc? Come to think of it, there’s an Irish festival in Miramichi
> and the Highland festival in Cape Breton that also have recieved
> some support from that department. Does this mean the Irish and
> Scottish are also seperate races?
Not seperate races. Seperate cultures. I have no problem with
multiculturalism, as long as it doesn’t include multiracialism.
In fact, we should be spending more money promoting the culture of the
Irish, Scottish, English, etc… and NO money promoting Ghanian, Somalian,
Jamaican,etc… “cultures”. After all, White people settled, built,
fought and died for this country. Non-White immigrants just want a free
ride on the gravy train. When there’s no more gravy, they’ll move on
somewhere else.
> Inquiring minds want to know.
Hope this helps.
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:45 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: A question about Ken McVay…
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Actually, I lied. I have two questions about Kenny.
1) Does anybody ever ACTUALLY read his long, drawn-out, monotonous,
pompous, endless, etc… messages?
2) Does anybody else think that he has ENTIRELY too much time on his
hands. Hey, that sounds like a Styx song…
“I’ve got dozens of friends, and the fun never ends,
That is, as long as I’m buying…”
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:46 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: To Ken McVay
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Gee, Ken, I feel kinda left out. You see, you seem to have an inordinate
amount of time to devote to keeping tabs on my husband’s Usenet posts.
But, I haven’t seen a single thing relating to me. Tell me, do you have a
file on me too? I’m dying to see it…
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:47 PDT 1995
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Keith Morrison ([email protected]) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau) writes:
>>Keith Morrison ([email protected]) writes:
>>
>>(snip)
>>> Mayhaps you could tell us when multiCULTURISM became multi-
>>> RACIALISM because I’m really kind of foggy on when that change
>>> occurred.
>>
>>Around 1967. That’s when Canada became “multicultural”. But even you
>>should know that this means multiracialism. Before 1967, immigration was
>>95% European. Now, it’s about 10% European. Every immigrant from the
>>third world just has to say the three magic words, and the money just
>>starts pouring in.
>>
> Of course, it had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that
> whereas before the government actively sought and encouraged
> Europeans above all others to come and immigrate at actively
> discouraged others, they then decided to open the doors to anyone,
> and since most people wanting to move would have come from 3rd world
> countries, this would have then caused the demographic change.
You make it sound like European immigration is a bad thing, Keith.
Opening the doors to third world immigrants opened up a Pandora’s box
of problems, such as the re-emergence of funky little diseases like
tuberculosis, various Asian flus, leprosy, etc… Not to mention the fact
that many African immigrants carry the AIDS virus. The welfare system is
being sucked dry by these same immigrants, who go from town to town
collecting under many names and addresse (the Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal
triangle being the most famous). In fact, just last week, there was a
news story about how a group of Somalis ripped off over $80 million
dollars from welfare in under two years. TWO YEARS!!!!! Europeans
commiting welfare (and other) fraud are a minority. A majority of
minorities rip off the system.
>
> What an idiot.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:47 PDT 1995
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Joel Rosenberg ([email protected]) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau) writes:
>
>
>>Not seperate races. Seperate cultures.
>
> Interesting, “Sylvie.” Do you have an explanation as to why you misspell the
> same word in consistently the same way as your “husband” does?
Umm, cause that’s the way we were taught to spell it here in Canada? We
spell many words differently, “colour” and “honour” being two that come
quickly to mind.
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:48 PDT 1995
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aria ([email protected]) writes:
> So what’s left?
>>
>> Les
>
> michael jordan, bryant gumbel, and ru paul.
^^^^^^^^^
You can claim a seven foot tall drag queen as a symbol of pride? Amazing!
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:49 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Where we choose to live… (was: The Spectre of McCarthyism)
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Jeffrey G. Brown ([email protected]) writes:
> In article , [email protected]
> (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>
>> Around 1967. That’s when Canada became “multicultural”. But even you
>> should know that this means multiracialism. Before 1967, immigration was
>> 95% European. Now, it’s about 10% European.
>
> I assume you learned the use of “statistics” like these from your alleged
> husband, Les Griswold. Perhaps you can improve on his dismal record.
>
> What is your source for this statistic?
I’ll get back to you on that, as soon as I dig it out of our library
(probably by the end of the week).
>> Every immigrant from the
>> third world just has to say the three magic words, and the money just
>> starts pouring in.
>
> Another allegation with no factual background. What are the three words,
> and where can documentation be found that supports your allegation that
> the mere utterance of them results in the “immigrant from the third world”
> becoming suddenly wealthy?
The three words are “I’m a refugee!”. Whether or not this claim is valid,
the claimant gets free housing, medical, dental, drug benefits, legal aid,
clothing, welfare, food, money, social workers, etc… We accept refugees
>from ISRAEL, a so-called democratic country. We almost accepted a refugee
>from China, because he was facing a vasectomy if he went back to his
homeland (he had fathered three children, against the law of his land).
It took us over two years to process his case, but he might not be
deported because he might either 1) appeal or 2) appply for permanent
resident status. But until its resolved, he gets a free stay at taxpayers
expense.
Another example: the Somalian warlord Mohommed Farrah Aideed
(sp?) is a wanted man by the UN. But here in Canada, we were supporting
his wife and children on welfare, low-rental housing (which is a hell of a
lot nicer than most working people can afford), free furniture, baby bonus
cheques, food banks, etc… but she was taking six month trips to visit
him in Africa, all the while claiming refugee status. Now, when the
taxpayers in this country found out what she was doing, she got cut off of
welfare. Immediately charges of racism filled the air.
THAT’S how the money rolls in for third world immigrants.
>Posted and emailed.
Why do you insist on e-mailing everything you write? You only tend to
make me want to ignore you. Do not e-mail me again.
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:50 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: WP types: Don’t understand IMMIGRATION.
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(Rick Jones) writes:
>> [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau) writes:
>
>> You make it sound like European immigration is a bad thing, Keith.
>> Opening the doors to third world immigrants opened up a Pandora’s box
>> of problems, such as the re-emergence of funky little diseases like
>> tuberculosis, various Asian flus, leprosy, etc…
>
> Leprosy? Where the hell do you live?
Leprosy is making a comeback, along with tuberculosis. In fact, 20% of
inmates at the Kingston pen tested positive for TB.
> Not to mention the fact that many African immigrants carry the AIDS
virus. >
> Of course, the AIDS virus was initially brought here by a white guy.
> This “they’ve got AIDS, ahhh, don’t let them in” baloney is a tired old
> lie. So far as I know, the one guy who got into Canada based upon his
> having AIDS (ergo, he was politically oppressed because of it, or so he
> said) was a white guy from Poland.
This “one guy” from Poland was also a fag, who (rightly or not) feared
persecution because of his sexual orientation. But how mant Africans come
into this country with the virus and DON’T MENTION IT until they have the
little magic paper that enables them to get free medical treatment? Don’t
you remember the story last year about the African immigrant who had AIDS,
was told not to have sex with anybody, yet went on to PURPOSELY infect
over a dozen women?
> The welfare system is
>> being sucked dry by these same immigrants, who go from town to town
>> collecting under many names and addresse (the Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal
>
> Of course, recent immigrants actually use LESS social assistance per capita
> than native-born Canadians, but that FACT doesn’t fit in with your pre-formed
> “theories.”
News story from about two years ago: 71 Middle-easterners are caught
defrauding the welfare system. All are released on a pittance of a bond;
only ONE shows up for trial. Now, I’m not saying that no White people rip
off the system. That would be erroneous. However, it seems to be
ORGANIZED fraud in the minority community. I’ve yet to hear a story about
80 Polish immigrants ripping off the system.
>> triangle being the most famous). In fact, just last week, there was a
>> news story about how a group of Somalis ripped off over $80 million
>> dollars from welfare in under two years. TWO YEARS!!!!! Europeans
>> commiting welfare (and other) fraud are a minority. A majority of
>> minorities rip off the system.
>
> Complete horseshit. If you’re asserting that a MAJORITY of all “minorities”
> are engaged in welfare fraud, I’d love to see your evidence. OF course,
> I fully expect it to be either manufactured out of thin air or nonexistent, but
> I’ll give you a chance to present it.
You know as well as I do that the Canadian government will not release
crime statistics by race. The government will shriek and scream “racism”
if it is even mentionned. Don’t be coy.
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
“Trapped behind bars, prisoners of death
All hope is ours, we can’t give up yet.
Ready to fight to get what we need,
Die on your feet, or live on your knees”
– Yngwie J. Malmsteen’s Rising Force, “Riot in the Dungeon”
From [email protected] Wed Oct 25 22:38:51 PDT 1995
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From: [email protected] (Sylvie Charbonneau)
Subject: Re: Two multicultural societies that WORK.
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(Rick Jones) writes:
>> [email protected] (Rick) writes:
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>
> 2. CANADA. Much of what is said about the United States can also be said of
> Canada, though on a smaller scale. Canadians enjoy an incredibly high standard
> of living in a society relatively that is harmonious. Canada is internally and
externally
> secure and enjoys good relations with the world community.
>
> Though later than their southern neighbours, Canada has undergone massive
> mixing of cultures. Originally, French colonists interacted with native populations,
> to be followed by a heavy English/Scottish/Irish influx. Like the United States,
> Canada accepted many Asian and European immigrants during the late 19th and
> early 20th century. Recent years have seen massive levels of Asian immigration,
> along with immigration from India/Pakistan, the Caribbean, and Eastern Europe.
> Toronto, Ontario, Canada’s largest city, is often said to be the world’s most
> multicultural city. Toronto enjoys wealth and safety that would be the envy of any
> other city of comparable size.
Perhaps, but I still wouldn’t walk down the streets at night, especially
in the Jane Finch area, where they shoot first and ask no questions.
> Canadian society is characterized by relative harmony, personal freedom,
You’re joking, right? A society where you are considered guilty until
proven innocent in racial prejudice cases, a society that is seeking to
ban ALL weapons (crossbows are already illegal in many areas, and you need
to show proof of age to buy a knife, even a Swiss Army one; guess there’s
a lot of homicidal boy scouts out there…)
> and a productive and wealthy economy.
With a debt well over half a trillion dollars (that’s trillion with a t)
and growing by the minute.
> Canada is surely one of the best nations one could live in.
Perhaps 30 years ago, before they foisted this “multicultural society”
crap on us.
> Canada’s been pretty damned successful, wouldn’t you say?
^^^^^^^^^^^
Notice the use of the past tense. I rest my case.
—
Sylvie Charbonneau
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