DvdThomas wrote:
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Dan Keren wrote:
>
> >Faurisson claims that historians “no longer believe” testimony
> >about throwing people alive into the “burning ditches” in
> >Birkenau. If he’s not lying, he should present a large number
> >of historians who indeed say that they don’t believe this ever
> >happened. Until he does, he’s lying about this point.
>
> In street parlance, this is known as “jive.”
In a discussion, such a reply is known as “meritless” and “argumentum ad
hominem.”
> Let me get this straight. Every non-referenced assertion is a lie? What
> is your reference for that assertion? Oh. You didn’t give one. I’ll be
> darned. (Or are only Faurisson’s assertions to be treated this way?)
>
> >We know, BTW, that the SS burned people alive in other camps,
> >and in Lidice if memory serves me right.
>
> Why, silly me! You do give your reference–your right serving memory.
Ahem. Silly you indeed. To reference but a few instances were prisoners
were burned alive:
Auschwitz. S. Smaglewska, witness before the IMT (1946).
Auschwitz. Hilbert, _The Destruction of the European Jews_, p.629.
Auschwitz. Nyiszli, _Auschwitz: a doctor’s eyewitness account_, p.87.
Fu”rstengrube A.C. Czech, _Auschwitz Chronicle 1939-1945_, p.803.
Gardelegan. Gutman, _Encyclopedia of the Holocaust_, p.353.
Kaufering Camp #4. Larson, _Crime Doctor_; p.57.
Kaufering Camp #4. Suddeneutsche Zeeitung, 29.11.1945. _Concentration Camp
Dachau 1933-1945_, p.221.
Tschechowitz-Vacuum A.C. Czech, _Auschwitz Chronicle 1939-1945_, p.795.
Warsaw ghetto, Gilbert, _Nuremburg Diary_, p.69.
> Jive talk, sir, classic jive talk.
Indeed. Best you hold that jive-tongue of yours next time when you feel
like pulling somebody’s chain, yes?
> To be able to conduct a conversation in a reasonable time frame, some
> element of trust and common sense is required. If you said that you had
> searched for a historian who does believe it and found one, or if you said
> that you could not find any historian who supports Faurisson’s assertion,
> after reasonably diligent search, then and only then would you have earned
> the right to legitimately claim that perhaps Faurisson is mistaken. To
> call his comment a lie based on your reasoning is not a lie, but it sure
> isn’t true.
Does this mean I can say “Faurisson is mistaken?”
[drivel snipped]
Mark
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