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Kari Nenonen writes:
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> In article ,
> Jason Smith wrote:
>
> > Aggravated assault (which was reduced to assault causing bodily
> >harm via plea-bargain), and being in a residence illegally.
>
> So you ARE a dangerous, violent individual also physically?
> Have you ever considered that there might be something wrong
> deep down in your beeing – in your attitudes towards life
> and other human beings?

Have you ever considered that your behavior elicits dangerous
violent aspects of certain people’s personalities?

Of course not, because you shouldn’t HAVE to worry about
eliciting such reactions.

Nor should Jason have to worry about being around people like you
who elicit such reactions from people like us.

I happen to be from a more pacifistic strain of the nordic
blood-line (Quakers) which is why I haven’t ended up becoming
a psychopathic murderer in response to people like you controlling
our society. Oh, I’ll agree that there are counter examples,
like Nixon, but he went to law school — an ideal place to find
out just how incompatible nordic blood-lines are with cosmopolitan
sophistry. Without an adequate understanding of his genetic
limiations, Nixon engaged in the hubris that is the downfall of
our people — he thought politics and colonialism, not technology
and pioneering, were our destiny.

He was wrong.
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[email protected] (Harry Katz) writes:
>
> My favorite display of racist schizophrenia occured when I first moved
> to Atlanta, Georgia. The racists would always say. “‘Niggers’ are
> lazy!” But, when asked to do an especially dirty or difficult job, the
> same racists would say, “I’m not doing that! I ain’t no ‘Nigger!'”

More indication that Farrakhan is right and that the southern states,
being hot and humid as they are, are better suited to African genes
than Nordic genes.

Farrakhan wants those states? Makes sense to me. Now we have to
figure out what to do to motivate those “racists” to move out of
there and I can’t think of anything better than a genetically screened
Nordic nation in one of those verdant winterlands, can you? Of
course, the genetic screening will pick up some set of African genes
in those southern kindred of the Nords, and those Nord-African hybrids
will come in VERY handy when it comes to interfacing with the
cosmopolitan urban nations. Why do you think there is such a low crime
rate in the south compared to the areas where secular Jews dominate?
The “good-ole-boys” have sacrificed some of their Nordic evolution to
gain some African strengths to serve our kindred. Secular jews don’t
have a monopoly on hybrid vigor despite their rhetoric.

The problem in this newsgroup is we are speaking to a group of people
who have the upper hand right now and want to keep EVERYONE around as
“niggers” to do their dirty work for them. Is it any wonder the
“niggers” of both African and northern european descent are a bit anxious to get
away? Is it any wonder the KKK and the Nation of Islam made their peace
in the 60’s and the White Aryan Resistance’s defense fund received
donations from NOI? How in the world are these groups becoming a virtual
Brotherhood of Mankind independent of the “indepensible moral leadership”
of the secular “Jew”‘s media, academia and political powers? Is it
surprising that the typical “divide and conquer” tactics used by secular
jews against separatists is failing, despite the fact that Farrakhan uses
rhetoric like “white devils” to describe us? As long as Farrakhan
understands how desperately the American pioneer needs separation from
the erocide of secular “Jewery”, he will be able to get away with absolutely
astounding abuses of our kindred and those of us who understand his agenda
will still support and respect the man.

The secular “Jew” simply went too far in his betrayal of the American
pioneer’s good faith and sacrifice during and after WW II. Despite his
desperate attempts to now backpeddal by claiming he is a “white male” and
that he is the leader in debunking Political Correctness, we will not
forget it was HIS media, HIS women and HIS “scholars” who promoted
sterilizing theories of cultural determinism, feminism and homosexuality
among our people. It was HIS wealth and genepool that benefitted
during the decades of our recent decimation.

NEVER AGAIN.
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[email protected] (Kari Nenonen) writes:
> In article ,
> Jim Bowery wrote:
> >I happen to be from a more pacifistic strain of the nordic
> >blood-line (Quakers) which is why I haven’t ended up becoming
> >a psychopathic murderer in response to people like you controlling
> >our society.
>
> “People like you”? You mean that IJC?

Big lie theory — repeat “international jewish conspiracy” enough
and people will start to think I had brought one up. Hitler really
DID learn that trick from you guys didn’t he? I think I must have
seen this IJC lie thrown out about me more than 30 times in the last
month. Dan Gannon, like the Hitler, wasn’t wrong about EVERYTHING
was he?

> Where I’m a secret member, ’cause
> I’m against racism and natziism and lying about history?

Well, since I’m against all those things, too, I guess that makes
me a member as well?

> As far as I
> know Qakers are not any kind of nordic blood-line but a sect in protestant
> religion,

For the most part, protestant religions were found by people of
nordic blood-lines.

> so don’t trust too much in it if you’ve got murderous thoughts
> towards people like me.

I don’t think you need to worry too much Kari — at least not about
me…

Look at the folks in soc.culture.jewish who have been calling for Farrakhan’s
murder as well as YOUR kindred who have called for my death and
dismemberment through mob violence — and done so repeatedly.

You know, when I sit back and ignore your lies and look at the simple
facts, the death and violence threates from the “Nazis” on the net have been
virtually nonexistant while, among jews, there seems to be a relatively
high frequency of such threats.

DESPITE this evidence that the big lie is being practiced again and
again — backed up by death and violence threats by jews against so called
“Nazis” — I have seen very little reaction from those of nordic blood-lines.

Most of us just want to get away from you. All we need to do so is sovereign
territory with genetic screening — for which we would be willing to deal.
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[email protected] (Trebor Lee) writes:
> In article , [email protected] (Barry Shein)
> writes:
>
> >Indeed, various government employees are quite constrained in their
> >ability to act. However, if I were Jason Smith I’d still be concerned
> >about the rest of the population and the dark of the night. Like any
> >body, the body politic has its anti-bodies capable of exicising its
> >most diseased bits.
>
> You sure do have some balls kike boy! Your the one who should be
> concerned, sleeping their at 700 Washington St. in Brighton, Ma. You think you
> can hide out and flame all of us gentiles, and make your idle threats, and go
> unnoticed??? I bet you would shit your panties if I gave you a phone call at
> (617) 787-0764 or stopped by your house. Crawl back under you rock and don’t
> fuck with one of my white brothers!!!

Well, it looks like Jews aren’t the only ones capable of making threats.

Who is Trebor Lee anyway?

Listen folks, there is a solution to the hate and it is called separatism.

Our respective kindreds wouldn’t be nearly as prone to violence and fraud
if it weren’t for the fact that there is NO WHERE ON EARTH where my kindred
can find a sovereign ethnic space based on principles of genetic separation.

We NEED that space just as Jews needed Israel for their cultural, if not
genetic, protection.

What is the price we must pay to obtain our homeland? It is clear that we
will not be allowed to reclaim North or Western Europe as Jews were allowed
to reclaim the Levant, so what are we to do?
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[email protected] (David F Olsky) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Randall J. Burns) writes:
> >In article <[email protected]> [email protected]
(David F Olsky) writes:
> >>
>
> >>>For the most part, protestant religions were found by people of
> >>>nordic blood-lines.
> >>
> >>You know, Jim, I think that if Martin Luther, John Calvin, and John Knox
> >>were alive, they’d be laughing pretty hard in your face.
>
> >Well, Martin Luther was _far_ more of an anti-semite than Mr. Bowery.
>
> Well, they’d still be laughing in his face, anti-semitic or not. Remember
> that Scandanavians *adopted* protestantism; they did not found it.

If you want to start splitting hairs about what is “Norden” and what
is not — fine. There are arguments about this from time to time in
soc.culture.nordic. The phenotypic and genotypic differences between
the various indigenous N&W europeans are not all that great.

> Kind of interesting here. I had a grandfather whose last name was Fox,
> and he was Irish. This is, of course, a very common name. So, if a
> combination of Irish and Anglo-Saxons founded the Quakers and Jim is
> descended from them, he must not be from this “nordic” bloodline.
> Somehow, I don’t think that George Fox would like him to deny his ancestry.

The Vikings even went into Ireland, David (as well as the Normans). Anyway,
I don’t claim to be a purebred nord — only Quaker pioneer who is about
as pure as they come.
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[email protected] (David F Olsky) writes:
> You know, Jim, I think that if Martin Luther, John Calvin, and John Knox
> were alive, they’d be laughing pretty hard in your face.

You know, David, if Martin Luther, at least, were alive today, I’d be
restraining him from going genocidal against Jews.

Read what he has to say about Jews sometime… it ain’t pretty.

I’m not familiar with Calvin or Knox’s positions on Jews but I would wager it
isn’t much prettier.

There is a reason for all this history and it isn’t that “antisemites
like Martin Luther are just losers who are jealous of the success of Jews.”

But, of course, you guys won’t listen to an honest voice when it appears
will you? You have to keep lying — even to yourselves. If you listened and
accepted some responsibility for this sordid historic pattern, we MIGHT be able
to resolve our mutual problems and not have to seek separation.

But history teaches us such will never be the case.

Separatism is the only real “final solution”.
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[email protected] (Kari Nenonen) writes:
> It’s impossible to discuss with you, Jim, because you seem to be totally
> blind and deaf to your own words. At first I’m writing about Sami’s rights
> in soc.culture.jewish – well, the thread led to Samis from Palestinians –

Sami’s rights were mentioned along with the idea that “ethnic thinking”
is a scourge. That means the very notion of “Sami’s” rights is a scourge.

> and label me a “Jewish woman” who is spreading “secular Jewish” propaganda

OK, I can understand about you being sensitive about me misidentifying you
as a woman. If it makes you feel any better, I’ll post an apology to
the relevant newsgroups.

As to your being a secular Jew, it is certainly the case that if you
aren’t one, you all but identify with them culturally. This, of course,
is not unique. Many people who have blood-ties, not just via ancestry
but through relations, to Jews are understandably concerned about
antisemitism and the potential for another holocaust. So if you aren’t
a secular Jew you are STILL capable of having blood-ties that motivate
you to act as though you are one.

> to do with soc.culture.nordic. People got annoyed and started calling
> you names an ridicule you making jokes about the International Jewish
> Conspiracy. And of course you took everything litterally, because among
> other things you seem to have no sense of humor.

Balderdash. This International Jewish Conspiracy libel against me has
been going on for a lot longer than that — it is a very convenient
prejudicial statement that happens to be false but believable — joke
or not. As believable false statement, I don’t take it as a joke, just
as I would expect a Jew to not take it as a joke were I to begin making
“jokes” about blood-libel.

> And what about Dan
> Gannon and Hitler being wrong about everything, I guess nobody is wrong
> about everything but if you refer to racial issues so they both were/are
> very wrong.

Hitler was wrong about hybrid vigor and he didn’t really understand
WHY purebreeding is important. The neglect of hybrid vigor was a
very serious, his ideas of racial supremicy as well but his failure to
appreciate the exact reasons for purebreeding being valuable are only a
minor embarrassment. Hitler’s errors in militarism, genocide and
centralization were the ones we should all recognize as the REAL problem —
not his racism, let alone his racialism.

> Maybe, but if that’s the only proof you’ve got for your pure, nordic
> blood, then there is a reasonable doubt as you Americans say so often
> in tv-shows.

I happen to be quite certain I DON’T have pure nordic blood.

You guys are so blinded by your prejudice and expectations you can’t
comprehend anything of what I write. You always have to cram it
back into your neat little stereotypes so it fits your prejudices.

And you have the gall to call me a racist bigot.

PS: No I won’t forget your existence as long as you are serving as
a cats paw for secular jewish style ethnic clensing — as you clearly
are — regardless of your actual genotype. You are simply an
extended phenotype.
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[email protected] (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> Last I heard about 20% of Israel’s population was non-Jewish Arab, a
> far greater percentage than the “others” you seem to feel are
> encroaching on you in the US (depends on how you cut it I suppose.)
>
> Jews themselves are also multi-racial etc, witness the thousands of
> Black Ethiopian Jews who have recently emigrated to Israel.
>
> Anyhow, other than conjuring up simple-minded cartoon images of Israel
> I believe you have chosen a rather poor example, not that I can think
> of any good examples.
>
> Well, hey, on with the show…

Oh you mean the show where the guy walks into the Israeli mosque and
mows down a bunch of praying Muslims?

Yeah, that was prime time!

Your “multicultural-multiracial” Israel leaves something to be
desired.
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[email protected] writes:
…
By the way, what are you guys doing in New Zealand these days? Of the
folks on the internet from NZ, more than half are Jewish.
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[email protected] (Kari Nenonen) writes:
> I’m a member of the western culture family – thats how I identify myself –
> and I agree that my morals are thus based much on Jewish-Greco-Roman heritage.
> as well as yours even if you try to deny it. You really think it takes
> “blood-ties” to be concerned about antisemitism and the potential for another
> holocaust? Yes, that’s what you obviously think and NOW I understand why
> it is so hard for you to believe that I’m not a “Jew” secular or other…
> Poor Jim, you are really deep in it… what ever it is.

Well, I was being kind, Kari. So I guess that will teach me a lesson.

> Ok. So let me ask you one question: Do you believe or do you not, that
> there really is some kind of International Jewish Conspiracy?

No. As I’ve stated more than enough times before, population genetic
patterns and shifts are not conspiracies. The africanized bees
do not conspire to displace the european bees. The brood-parasite
does not conspire to snatch food from the mouth of its “siblings”.
The regicidal parasite does not conspire with the worker ants
to turn them against their own queen and then to serve the
parasite and its reproductive young.

These are simply natural patterns that evolve under the “right”
conditions — conditions created by Rome in its colonization of
the Levant and the emergence of technology in europe.

> Your racial theories has proven wrong here before by better genealogists
> than me, so I won’t even try. And no matter what you say, for me there
> is only one race: the human race.

Somehow their arguments were quite unconvincing, although I admit that
if I were a wide-eyed teenager entering college, I MIGHT have swallowed
the lies.

> >I happen to be quite certain I DON’T have pure nordic blood.
>
> So you have to be left outside of your own future consentration camp for
> pure blooded nordic people?

Sure. Out of those portions that are reserved for purebloods and
initially maybe even out of the whole thing until better methods of
discrimination are developed.

> Considering how you have been stereotyping me here and in soc.culture.nordic,
> I think you are the last person to complain about stereotyping.
> I think I comprehend everything you write – that’s the main reason I
> answer to you.

But you fit the stereotype so well, Kari.

> What is exatly “secular jewish style ethnic cleansing”?

Pluralism everywhere regardless of the nature of the indigenous peoples
and their vulnerability to displacement by socially more adept
anthrosystems.
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[email protected] (Svidrigailov) writes:
> Funny, Jim, I’m almost pure 100% celt, and I have no idea what you’re
> talking about when you say “soveriegn ethnic space”.

It is really no different from any other sovereign state except that it
is permitted to screen its immigrants for genetic content.
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[email protected] (Ken Mcvay) writes:
> >> “People like you”? You mean that IJC?

No, people who have zero respect for the wishes of others to be
left alone in their sovereign states because you know that if
you can just become part of their society, you can manipulate
yourself into dominance over them.

Oh — also the members of the society who you have so
manipulated that they serve as puppets or slaves to your
ethnic agenda. A lot of “liberals”, homosexuals, feminists
and the like fit into that category. They exhibit “extended
phenotypes” of your more dominant genotype.

> (By the way, I was once quite active with the local Friends meeting, in
> Portland, Oregon,

Why doesn’t this surprise me in the least?

>and suspect those good folks would be quite surprised that
> anyone would like them with “Nordic blood lines.”)

The history of population genetics in Northern Europe created enough
mixing between the various ethnic groups in the winterlands that it is
reasonable to use the word Nordic for all of them. Some dispute this
but it is little more productive to argue about it than the word “Jew”.

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From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
>Oh you mean the show where the guy walks into the Israeli mosque and
>mows down a bunch of praying Muslims?
>
>Yeah, that was prime time!
>
>Your “multicultural-multiracial” Israel leaves something to be
>desired.

(Ain’t my Israel)

(but it was you who put it up as some sort of ideal)

So, like then what can we learn from that guy* who went up to the top
of the belltower at UT Austin and shot 42 people?

You mean in your utopia mass murderers will be eliminated?

I know you’ll say yes, I mean, why not say yes, you’ll say anything
that pops into your head it seems.

* Charles Starkweather? I forget.
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The careful observer will note that Linda Thompson’s ultimatum
does not call for the removal of the unconstitutional provision
of government-induced media monopoly created by the
telecommunications act of 1934.

Since in the modern era broadcast media (radio and television)
is the primary means of social control, Linda Thompson’s
failure to address government induction of monopolies in
these markets makes her a de facto accomplice in the modern
mechanisms of social control.
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[email protected] (Ted Frank) writes:
> Our second-favorite net.nazi is back…

Ted! Where have you been? I’ve been posting frequently
for awhile now but you seem to have missed all the fun
with Linda Thompson and the acquitted tax protester in
Tennessee and the move in the Idaho legislature for
sovereignty.

Been out schmoozing with a federal judge?
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From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
Subject: DEPORT US!!!
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[email protected] (Ken Mcvay) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Jim Bowery) writes:
>
> >Listen folks, there is a solution to the hate and it is called separatism.
>
> I have difficulty comprehending that, and I’d appreciate it if you’d expand
> on the theory.

It’s sort of like a divorce. You know how sometimes there are what are
known as “irreconcilable differences” and that until separation an
inventory of bad feelings can build and build?

> >Our respective kindreds wouldn’t be nearly as prone to violence and fraud
> >if it weren’t for the fact that there is NO WHERE ON EARTH where my kindred
> >can find a sovereign ethnic space based on principles of genetic separation.
>
> Who are your “kindred,” Jim? What evidence do you have that supports your
> assertion that these folks _want_ a “sovereign ethnic space?”

All those people who are being misguided into Naziism, holocaust revisionism
and general thrashing around in nonproductive modes because they can’t see
any route to escape toxic influences in their environment.

> >We NEED that space just as Jews needed Israel for their cultural, if not
> >genetic, protection.
>
> Why?

We don’t want to be your food. Why do you want us to stick around?

Oh, that’s just a little too obvious I guess… and I know the response will
be something along the lines of “no one wants to make you their food, Jim…
are you ON something?” Probably phrased in a more benign way such as…
“Why do you think I want to make you be my food?”

This is like arguing with a fungus…

> >What is the price we must pay to obtain our homeland? It is clear that we
> >will not be allowed to reclaim North or Western Europe as Jews were allowed
> >to reclaim the Levant, so what are we to do?
>
> Learn to live and let live?

Said the AIDS virus to the host’s immune system…
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From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
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[email protected] (Kari Nenonen) writes:
> In article ,
> Randall J. Burns wrote:
> >Kari, I have a question for you: in an earlier post you suggested
> >that Jim Bowery “needed help” and suggested he seek some kind of
> >psychotherapy.
> >
> >Do you really think that public humiliation tactics are conducive to
> >the promotion of mental health? Do you really think that if you did
> >run into a troubled individual who might benefit by psychotherapy
> >that suggesting this in public would be the best way to encourage
> >them to do so?
> >
>
> Well, I think Mr. Bowery humiliated himself with his paranoid comments,
> if it is humiliating to show ones need for help in public. I don’t see
> that mental sickness is any more humiliating than a physical one. Besides
> I don’t believe that I would be able to encourage Mr. Bowery to do anything,
> privately or publicly.

Actually, my real crime is that I focus on primary causes that really
get to the root of the matter. I’m a radical. Radicals are always
reviled as kooks by those who are threatened by them.

It’s just the ecology of anthrosystems playing itself out through
history. This stuff about “mental illness” is a hark back to the days
of the Inquisition when heretics were presumed to be “possessed” or
something. Instead of the torture chamber of the Inquisitor, we have
the much “kinder” “mental health profession” which is disproportionately
founded and operated by secular “Jewery”.

Mind butchers.
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From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
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[email protected] (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
> >By the way, what are you guys doing in New Zealand these days? Of the
> >folks on the internet from NZ, more than half are Jewish.
>
> One can only wonder how he concludes this.

The most casual observation, from which it is obvious.
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From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
Subject: Re: Nazis on Internet
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[email protected] (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
> >Oh you mean the show where the guy walks into the Israeli mosque and
> >mows down a bunch of praying Muslims?
> >
> >Yeah, that was prime time!
> >
> >Your “multicultural-multiracial” Israel leaves something to be
> >desired.
>
> (Ain’t my Israel)
>
> (but it was you who put it up as some sort of ideal)

Obviously, as I said, it leaves something to be desired…

Like making it a lot less multicultural and multiracial…

I understand the frustration of observant Jews who want to see
a RELIGIOUS state in Israel. What they don’t really understand
is that by demanding such, they are attempting to do basically
what the German people deeply wanted to do with Northern Europe —
and which Hitler promised, but did not deliver due to his
identification with Aryans (the indo-branch) rather than
identifying with the euro-branch.

Mowing people down in a Mosque is very much akin to the error
the antisemites of Germany made in establishing such a state.
Persecution is self-defeating. Separatism is the first step
and pioneering new territories is the objective that has
historically proven the route to genetic success.

First get your immune system to function, then go out and
be productive.

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[email protected] (Ted Frank) writes:
> Our second-favorite net.nazi is back…

Been out schmoozing with a federal judge?
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It’s sort of like a divorce. You know how sometimes there are what are
known as “irreconcilable differences” and that until separation an
inventory of bad feelings can build and build?

> >We NEED that space just as Jews needed Israel for their cultural, if not
> >genetic, protection.
>
> Why?

We don’t want to be your food. Why do you want us to stick around?

This is like arguing with a fungus…

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> Well, I think Mr. Bowery humiliated himself with his paranoid comments,
> if it is humiliating to show ones need for help in public. I don’t see
> that mental sickness is any more humiliating than a physical one. Besides
> I don’t believe that I would be able to encourage Mr. Bowery to do anything,
> privately or publicly.

Actually, my real crime is that I focus on primary causes that really
get to the root of the matter. I’m a radical. Radicals are always
reviled as kooks by those who are threatened by them.

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Most casual observation, from which it is obvious.
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Obviously, as I said, it leaves something to be desired…

Like making it a lot less multicultural and multiracial…

First get your immune system to function, then go out and
be productive.

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[email protected] (Felix Vagabond) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> : [email protected] (Jim Bowery) writes:
>
> : >But, of course, you guys won’t listen to an honest voice when it appears
> : >will you? You have to keep lying — even to yourselves. If you listened and
> : >accepted some responsibility for this sordid historic pattern, we MIGHT be
> : >able to resolve our mutual problems and not have to seek separation.
>
> : I’m sorry, but Freud just *labeled* paranoid delusions. He didn’t
> : create them, and therefore neither he nor Jews in general bear no
> : responsibility for your unfortunate condition.
>
> His condition is somehow critical and in need of immediate attention
> to remedy hia ailment otherwise we will have to deal with this spread
> of the disease to other segment society.

Yeah sort of like the way demons were spread by witches in the middle ages.

Call in the inquisitors — ur — psychotherapists!!!
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[email protected] (Defender of the Faith) writes:
… tripe …

What’s your real name “Defender”?
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[email protected] (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> Jim, I have a sneaking suspicion that there are many things which only
> you can see.

Well, if you mean my messy office here, you’re right.

When you are talking about the larger issues, I don’t think I’m all
THAT perceptive. A lot of other people see the things I see — they
just don’t talk about it much due to the slave mentality that has
been foisted upon them by your media/academia mind control system.

All you have to do is scratch the surface…
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[email protected] writes:
> Whoopee, by Jim’s lights I’m a “secular Jew” too. *Yawn*

What’s your religion, Tony?
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Peter Skaliks writes:
> [email protected] (Barry Shein) writes:

> > >>I think the tower guy was named Whitman. Starkweather is the guy who
> > >>killed the nurses in Chicago. But geez, ask Bowery, he’s the mass
> > >>murderer fan.
> >
> > I assume we can take all this as not terribly supportive of Bowery’s
> > thesis that mass murder is somehow special and unique to Israel?
>
> Mass murder is not unique to Israel, you are quite correct.

Now if I could only find the place where I said or implied that
“mass murder is somehow special and unique to Israel” … I never
THOUGHT I held that thesis, but then I also never thought I was a
genocidal Nazi hatemonger … that is until I started reading what
secular “Jews” and their toadies have to say about me.
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[email protected] writes:
> We seek independence from your “multicultural” deathstyle. We demand the right
> to live how we wish with whom we wish. WE, not you, decide whether we want to
> change course from your path to destruction. Racial and cultural self-deter-
> mination is the most fundamental of human rights. What you advocate is genocide.
>
> I am fully aware of the most important events and trends in history. I have
> intensively studied native Aryan cultures, as well as non-White cultures,
> for many years now. My studies have reinforced all of my National Socialist
> beliefs. *I* know myself and my heritage. Do you?

While hermann and I disagree on many important things, we are kindred in both blood
and separatist intent. These are the most important of all and there is no
point in getting us to argue against each other on your behalf any longer. You
have simply lost your moral authority over us. It’s time for us to go.

Allow us to form our own political, social and academic systems wherein we will
determine, as kindred, according to the law of our own blood, our own justice
among our own people. Even our most profound disagreements are as nothing compared
to the loss of tens of millions of our people to the pluralistic erocide you have
imposed. If we are to suffer, as I am sure you will claim we will in the absence
of your “civilized guidance”, then let us suffer at our OWN hand in such a way
as to make it obvious to us we are responsible and not you.

Despite the fact that you may perceive no slaughter of our blood, you cannot deny
us our own self-determination without calling into question the sincerity of
that denial.

Let us have OUR homeland.

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From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
Subject: Re: Holocaust Almanac: Hoess – “A True Pioneer”
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[email protected] (Ken Mcvay) writes:
> Archive/File: holocaust/auschwitz hoess.01
> Last-Modified: 1992/10/17
>
> “HOESS, RUDOLF FRANZ (1900-1947)… In 1934 he was attached to the SS
> at Dachau … 1940 given rank of SS-Hauptsturmfuehrer in command at
> the Auschwitz camp. [He] was responsible for the execution of more
> than 2.5 million inmates, not counting a half million who were allowed
> to starve to death. He performed his job so well that he was commended
> in a 1944 SS report that called him “a true pioneer in this area
> because of his new ideas and educational methods.” He was sentenced to
> death at Warsaw and was executed several days later at Auschwitz.
>
> At the fulcrum of the extermination system in Poland were the camps at
> Auschwitz, Maidanek, Treblinka, Chelmno, Belzec, and Sobibor….
> Auschwitz was the most notorious of the extermination centers. At the
> height of its activity Auschwitz could house more the 100,000 men and
> women and could provide for the gassing and incineration of 12,000
> prisoners a day…. The .. gas chambers could accommodate 2,000
> prisoners at one time. Rudolf Hoess testified at Nuremberg: ‘When I
> set up the extermination building at Auschwitz, I used Zyclon B which
> was crystallized prussic acid which we dropped into the death-chamber
> from a small opening. It took from 3 to 15 minutes to kill the people
> in the death-chamber, depending on climatic conditions. We knew when
> the people were dead because their screaming stopped. We usually
> waited for half-an-hour before we opened the doors and removed the
> bodies. After the bodies were removed our special commandos
> [‘Sonderkommandos’ made up of prisoners who were partially trusted]
> took off the rings and extracted the gold teeth of the corpses.’
>
> ‘We tried to fool the victims into believing that they were going
> through a delousing process. Of course, at times they realized our
> true intentions and we sometimes had riots and difficulties.
> Frequently women would hide their children under their clothes, but we
> found them and we sent the children to be exterminated. We were
> required to carry out these exterminations in secrecy, but the foul
> and nauseating stench from the continued burning of bodies permeated
> the whole area and all the people living around Auschwitz knew what
> was going on.'” (Snyder)
>
> “The gassing was carried out in the detention cells of Block 11.
> Proctected by a gas mask, I watched the killing myself. In the crowded
> cells, death came instantaneously the moment the Zyklon B was thrown
> in. A short, almost smothered cry, and it was all over…. I must
> even admit that this gassing set my mind at rest, for the mass
> extermination of the Jews was to start soon, and at that time neither
> Eichmann nor I was certain as to how these mass killings were to be
> carried out. In would be by gas, but we did not know which gas and how
> it was to be used. Now we had the gas, and we had established a
> procedure.” (Museum, 92-95)
>
> Work Cited
>
> Museum w Oswiecimu. KL Auschwitz Seen by the SS Hoess, Broad, Kremer,
> Second edition, Museum w Oswiecimu, 1978.
>
> Snyder, Dr. Louis L. Encyclopedia of the Third Reich. New York: Paragon
> House, 1989. ISBN 1-55778-144-3
>
> —
> /^\__/^\ The Old Frog’s Almanac
> / @ @ \ Home to the Holocaust & Fascism Archives
> ( ) Port Alberni, British Columbia, Canada
> \ ~~~~ /
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From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
Subject: Re: Holocaust Almanac: Hoess – “A True Pioneer”
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[email protected] (Ken Mcvay) writes:
> Archive/File: holocaust/auschwitz hoess.01
> Last-Modified: 1992/10/17
>
> “HOESS, RUDOLF FRANZ (1900-1947)…

Attention Germanic lineage:

DO NOT allow yourself to be drawn into this “debate.”

It is a trap.

Focus on separation from Jews and the reasons for
doing so — not on whether or not our kindred sought
to exterminate them. If they did, as I believe they
did, it is understandable, albiet immoral.

Instead, we must separate cleanly and completely so
as to avoid further temptations toward genocide.

Work toward that goal and that goal only.
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[email protected] (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
> >Allow us to form our own political, social and academic systems
> >wherein we will determine, as kindred, according to the law of our own
> >blood, our own justice among our own people.
>
> What do you mean “allow”? Who should allow you? Who are you
> addressing? Who are you appealing to? Give us all a hint.
>
> Or is this just a prayer to some deity?

I’m speaking to the real issue.

> >Let us have OUR homeland.
>
> How many of “you” are there?

Probably less than 10% of those of Nordic/Germanic descent would
prefer to live in a country that has stringent laws against the
immigration of those of Jewish or other heritage. Of those probably
only 10% would be willing to make the sacrifice necessary to
move to a harsh, sparsely populated land area in Siberia or Alaska.

Maybe 1 million people total.

I honestly believe that if secular Jews would simply NOT OPPOSE
self-determination for our people, such a homeland would come into
existence very quickly.

Since they have no moral basis for opposing self-determination of any
people, let alone people who sees them as an imminent and mortal threat,
one can only assume that their failure of morality in this area hides
an unconscious awareness of their own parasitic nature — a fear that
once the food source begins to leave — they suffer. But since they
are human, like the rest of us, they will, I am sure, find a way to
replace their food source with some sort of self-sustaining activity.

Inconvenience is not sufficient justification for depriving others
of their human rights.
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Subject: Re: Nazis on Internet
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[email protected] (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
> >> > >>I think the tower guy was named Whitman. Starkweather is the guy who
> >> > >>killed the nurses in Chicago. But geez, ask Bowery, he’s the mass
> >> > >>murderer fan.
> >> >
> >> > I assume we can take all this as not terribly supportive of Bowery’s
> >> > thesis that mass murder is somehow special and unique to Israel?
> >>
> >> Mass murder is not unique to Israel, you are quite correct.
> >
> >Now if I could only find the place where I said or implied that
> >”mass murder is somehow special and unique to Israel”
>
> When you began citing an instance of mass murder as evidence of a
> problem peculiar to Israel’s non-homogeneous society. The
> counter-point being that random and criminal mass murder (as opposed
> to that initiated by the state) appears to be just about ubiquitous in
> every society,

Barry, if you will recall, *you* brought up Israel as a shining
example of multiculturalism and I brought up the fact that
Israel, like all multicultural states, has the same “hate” problem:

From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
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[email protected] (Ken Mcvay) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Jim Bowery) writes:
> >It’s sort of like a divorce. You know how sometimes there are what are
> >known as “irreconcilable differences” and that until separation an
> >inventory of bad feelings can build and build?
>
> OK, even my aged mind comprehends that. Now perhaps you can define
> which groups experience these irreconcilable differences between
> them…

There are times when one party in a marriage doesn’t want the divorce
and the other party wants the divorce. The “irreconcilable differences”
may be totally one sided — and indeed this is often the case. The complaints
of the “unoffended” party to the effect that there is no reason for the marriage
partner to stick around cannot keep a marriage together. How much less
justification does a party, such as yourself, or your secular Jewish “friends”,
have to deny us the right to self-determination?

Folks like you, Ken, and your pluralistic brethren, see no problem.

That is your privilege.

It is NOT your privilege to deny us self-determination that you have shown
by dismissing our rights on the grounds that we are not psychologically
competent, no matter how “justifiable” that opinion may be.

Perhaps you think your diagnoses are funny. I have some friends from
the former Soviet Union who don’t think such “jokes” about psychological
health in the context of denial of basic human rights is funny in the slightest.

Can you figure out why that might be?

> As an dual citizen (Canada, USA) with no discernable religious or
> cultural ties of importance to me, I assure you that I’m not remotely
> interested in digesting you or anyone else, and, yes, I want you to
> stick around.

Very flattering. Don’t our wishes for life and our perceptions of what is
best for ourselves and progeny hold more weight in the arena of human
rights than your opinions? We aren’t asking you to stop what you are
doing. We are simply asking that we be allowed to remove ourselves
from your presence so that you can continue to do what you are doing
without affecting us. You, on the other hand, would oppose the formation
of a sovereign state by those who share my perceptions — perhaps on the
grounds of “paranoia”. How are you to distinguish yourself from your
counterparts in the former Soviet Union?

Even if we simply believed that we might enjoy life a BIT more
under self-determination than in the “kind, considerate, caring company
of wiser men” such as your self, would we not still not have the right
to pursue that belief?

The fact that we perceive that we are in mortal danger from your kind
of person, that we simply do not possess the ability to “cure” you via
“dialogue” and that we must, therefore, abandon you to the fate you
are now subject to should, if anything, ADD weight to our right to
self-determination — not detract.

On what grounds would you deny us our right to self-determination,
to the pursuit of happiness for ourselves and our progeny?

The fact that we don’t believe you competent to perceive reality or
comprehend our explanations? MUST we cast our perls before swine
to obtain our basic human rights? Why must we?

You’ll have to do better than that. While we may believe your
bloodline is being digested by secular Jews and other elements of your
beloved “pluralistic society” and that you are being manipulated into
accepting this fate due to your inability to perceive reality or protect
your blood-line, we are NOT preventing you from pursuing your goal of
self-destruction. We are not only willing to allow you to pursue this
goal for yourself and your progeny, we are willing to give up our rights
to have ANY influence over your right to feed your children to the fungus.

There are simply certain basic decisions that a people have to be allowed
to make regardless of the opinion of other people as to the wisdom of
those decisions.

Really, we are NOT interested in having a “dialogue” on how to make
a pluralistic society work better or what our grievances might be. We
are only interested in getting away from you. It is quit simple and
clear cut as a human rights issue.

Bottom line, Ken, are you for or against the most basic of human
rights?
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[email protected] (Warren Burstein) writes:
> In [email protected] (Jim Bowery) writes:
>
> >It is really no different from any other sovereign state except that it
> >is permitted to screen its immigrants for genetic content.
>
> Since you claim to be interested in “apolitical genes” rather than
> blond hair and blue eyes, how to you plan to test for these genes?
> Do you qualify?
>
> And what happens to people born there who express recessive genes?

Warren, if you are planning to try to move there, then I suppose
this might be of some interest to you.

Otherwise, its none of your business.
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[email protected] (Barry Shein) writes:
>
> From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
> >Barry, if you will recall, *you* brought up Israel as a shining
> >example of multiculturalism and I brought up the fact that
> >Israel, like all multicultural states, has the same “hate” problem:
>
> No Mr Bowery, if you would re-read the note you quoted it’s quite
> obvious I was only responding to your bizarre characterization of
> Israel as a homogeneous society.
>
> From: [email protected] (Barry Shein)
> >From: [email protected] (Jim Bowery)
> >>Listen folks, there is a solution to the hate and it is called separatism.
> >
> >>We NEED that space just as Jews needed Israel for their cultural, if not
> >>genetic, protection.
> >
> >Israel is a multi-racial/religious/cultural society, even more so than
> >the US (which you seem to decry.)

OK, so you seem to be claiming that because Israel is cosmopolitan, that
therefore it does not serve to help protect and preserve Jewish culture
if not genes. Either that or you are putting words in my mouth. You will
note that I did NOT state that Israel was “homogeneous” as you repeatedly
claimed I stated, nor did I state that the hypothetical sovereign state
I propose would have to be like Israel in every way.

This sort of distortion and sophistry is an example of why my people want
to get away from your people.

We have better things to do with our time, like sacrifice connection to many
of our friends and family, abandon professional careers in the US and move
to a place where we will have to prepare for a harsh winter that might kill
us.
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[email protected] (Harry Katz) writes:
> I wrote:
> Farrakhan wants those states? Makes sense to me. Now
> we have to figure out what to do to motivate those
> “racists” to move out of there…
>
> Not an easy task given the favorite bumper sticker reads, “American by
> birth. Southern by the grace of God!”
>
>
> …and I can’t think of anything better than a genetically
> screened Nordic nation in one of those verdant winterlands,
> can you?
>
> While Mr. Bowery decries what he perceives as social engineering foisted
> on an unsuspecting and unwilling population, he has no problem
> recommending his own form of social meddling.

I was just trying to speak your language, Harry. Since we perceive
the world so differently, it was a necessary contrivance.

Believe me, I have very little fear of Farrakhan turning into some
sort of Hitler and deporting/exterminating the whites if he takes over
Dixie. He knows he needs them down there to help train urban youth in
agriculture etc., and I believe he also would prefer to keep them
around since he knows they would be relatively easy to manipulate given
their gullible white genes compared to the social sophistication of
African genes. It is precisely that sophistication that has Jews so
scared of Farrakhan now. Jews are now getting a taste of what it
is like to have been a Germanic/Nord for the last millenium or so.
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[email protected] writes:
> [email protected] (Jim Bowery) writes:
>
> >When you are talking about the larger issues, I don’t think I’m all
> >THAT perceptive. A lot of other people see the things I see — they
> >just don’t talk about it much due to the slave mentality that has
> >been foisted upon them by your media/academia mind control system.
>
> I see.
>
> And how long have you had the impression you were able to read people’s
> minds, Mr Bowery ?

As I’ve said before — all you have to do is scratch the surface. The
moral imprints laid down by academia and media “shamans” have their
limits. Those limits were reached when the attacks against our bloodlines
became so egregious that even the most moral among us could no longer
bear up under the weight. Now there are people who are consciously
submitting to dominance by secular Jewish masters while others are
going genocidal and others are going separatist. Among the separatists
there are those who want to grab a piece of the already infected pie
like, say, the Pacific North West, and deport everyone else. I recognize
this as a historically dangerous pattern (including the Aryans, the
nonpioneering Vikings and the Nazis) and further recognize pioneering as
a historically successful pattern.

This nation was founded of by and for my people. We prefer independence.
The problems of allowing Jews in weren’t even considered by the founders.
So few Jews wanted to brave the Atlantic ocean before 1776, such issues
were “in the noise” compared to the internal ethnic conflicts with the
British nobility. Our founders simply didn’t know how to even BEGIN to
think about such issues. During the 1800s with subsequent waves of
immigration and gradual dilution of the genepool, the way was opened for
the final assault on our genetic and political Constitution.

The reason our Constitutional form of government is disintigrating is
because there was never even a question but that our ethnic group would be
the citizens of this nation. Genotypes that came subsequently are simply
not compatible with the individualistic Constitution of our form of
government. The black slaves in the New World were, for our founders,
a source of intellectual embarrassment. They were simply not up to the
task presented by such implied pluralism.

As a consequence, all the “patriots” in the Constitutionalist movement
are latent “racist, white supremicist, antisemitic, genocidal bigots”.

The surface is being scratched. People are calling to arms.

I may be the only person who is speaking forcefully for an alternative
to suicide on the one hand or genocide on the other.

Although you may think that suicide is the only honorable choice for
my people, it really isn’t the correct solution, not even for the
sociopathic Jews who think they know what is best for themselves and
have the tools to manipulate many of us into taking down our brethren.

Erocide, like genocide, is a short-term solution to a longer term
problem that has profound backlash effects. You are witnessing, in me,
one of the earliest stages of a backlash against erocide. Other stages
are building and even beginning to manifest themselves as we speak.

I’m the best friend you have.
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[email protected] (Kari Nenonen) writes:
> In article ,
> I think the main reason for poor Jim’s whining here is the fact that he is
> so alone with his delusions. He believes he can get some support from
> international nets. That’s why at least he’s so often visiting
> soc.culture.nordic.

No, I’m just more curious as to how far the erocide has gone in those
countries. I suspect it is about as far gone as California if the
genetic mix is as I believe. The difference is that the people
who stayed behind in Scandanavia are less likely to go pioneering
so they will either go genocidal or submit to genetic slavery, like
yourself.

I suspect the latter.

> He thinks that at least us “pure blooded Nordics” would
> understand his briljant theories.

As I said, I suspect “pure blooded Nords” are less prone to go
pioneering than people who actually DID go pioneering. One of the
things that helps people to label me a “kook” is the fact that I
just don’t fit the mold of slave or Nazi. Kooks say incomprehensible
things. Nazi’s say things that everyone comprehends all too well.

The only thing I think the silent ones don’t understand is why I
don’t identify as a Nazi. That’s because they have never experienced
a pioneering culture. Hence, they DON’T understand my “brilliant
theories” as you so flatteringly put it.

> But no, not a single one supporter, only
> angry and annoyed responses.

Lots of secular Jews and “nords” like Kari who not only have Jewish
ancestry but are related via marriage to Jews — or really don’t want
to face a very nasty reality.

> No he concludes that the only reason is the “fact” that the nets are
> dominated by “the Jews”.

In terms of net traffice to population percentage ratios, Jews are at
the top for any group of their size or larger.
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[email protected] (Bob Ingria) writes:
> In article [email protected] (Jim Bowery) writes:
> [email protected] (Defender of the Faith) writes:
> … tripe …
>
> What’s your real name “Defender”?
>
> [That’s “What’s your real name COMMA “Defender”?” Ah, for the days
> of internet multi-media when one can engage in tele-blue-pencil.]
>
> This is a triviality to find out to those who know their way around
> the wonders of the net and a great mystery to the cluefully
> challenged.
>
> The promotion of politics exterminates apolitical genes in the population.
> The promotion of frontiers gives apolitical genes a route to survival.
>
> But what about the genes for cluefullness? How do politics and
> frontiers affect them?

Thank you, Bob.

Not everyone who reads usenet newsgroups has access to the “finger” utility.
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[email protected] (Daniel B Case) writes:
> Well, Jason, why is it that while fascist-racial supremacists such as
> yourselves always say “Oh, we’re only just interested in protecting our own
> ‘people'”, it always invariably happens that for some reason you have to act,
> and take rather extensive measures to protect your people-measures that would
> make no sense unless the real goal was all along to completely eliminate any
> vestige of that threat whether potential or actual? Always sounds fishy to me.

Yes, Jason and many others make the mistake of identifying with the Nazis
the Nazi made the mistake of identifying with the Aryans (a section of nordic
bloodlines that went colonial and then went all but extinct).

Neither Jason nor I nor the rest of our kindred are Aryans — nor are we
even old-world nordics who stayed behind to be consumed by or make war
on the encroachment of cosmopolitan cultures. We are a pioneering sub-group
that tends to “move on” rather than engage in war. We only fight when
cornered, but as can be seen in the history of the US, we are relatively
good at war when politicians get out of the way.

If there were a frontier — a true frontier where we could exercise our
sovereignty and have full self-determiniation — you would see the
pioneer in us emerge and overtake the “Nazi” persona which is held out as
the only modern archetype of our genetic interests. Of course, it is
a failed archetype which is exactly why it is pushed by the “Jewish”
media as THE archetype — so that people like Jason and others are drawn
into it where they can be easily disposed of.

The fact of the matter is, the Nazi’s had some very important things right:

* Cosmopolitan urban cultures, most typically associated with “the Jew”
but also represented by many other genetic groups which evolved in more
benign climates, are, when intimately mixed, incompatible with the
preservation of nordic bloodlines and traditions.

* Genes affect culture and culture affects genes whether we take
responsibility for this fact or not in our social policy. At present
US government policy is selecting for some of the worst genetic traits
imaginable.

* Socialism isn’t as damaging where there is homogeneity. The ultimate
case in point is the family unit, where socialism is downright necessary.

Now all three of these points are points where secular Jews are likely
to strongly disagree with us but if one thinks carefully, one sees that
all three of these points are internal issues best left up to the
sovereignty of a people — WHICH IS WHY SEPARATION IS NECESSARY.

Those of us who feel ourselves and our children mortally threatened by
the pluralistic environment in which we are born need have recourse to
some form of self-determination in an environment free from those who:

1) Disagree on these issues which we hold to be most vital to our survival
and happiness.

and

2) Are so socially, politically and rhetorically sophisticated that even
they don’t recognize the extent of their peace-time ability to quash
divergent ideas.

It is the mistake of the Nazi archetype to attempt to reclaim that which
has been lost to cosmopolitan urbanization rather than forging a life from
the frontier. Don’t help drive us into the Nazi/Aryan archetype — work
with us to elicit the INDEPENDENT/pioneer archetype which, history has
show, creates positive options for us all.
—
The promotion of politics exterminates apolitical genes in the population.
The promotion of frontiers gives apolitical genes a route to survival.

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[email protected] (Kari Nenonen) writes:
> In article ,
> Jason Smith wrote:
>
> > Aggravated assault (which was reduced to assault causing bodily
> >harm via plea-bargain), and being in a residence illegally.
>
> So you ARE a dangerous, violent individual also physically?
> Have you ever considered that there might be something wrong
> deep down in your beeing – in your attitudes towards life
> and other human beings?