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Blackmore part 6, Bellinger Joseph

>From the testimony of Helen Klein at the belsen
trial, page 128:

“No. 41, (Sauer) was the Aufseherin in Cookhouse
No.2 in Belsen in and she beat the people
mainly when they approached in order to get a piece
of rotten turnip.”

Also, regarding Herta Ehlert, Danny Keren’s “star
witness” against Kramer, she testifies:

“No. 8 (Ehlert) was the woman standing at the
gate who beat the prisoners. She was one of the worst
in the camp at Belsen and was the senior Aufseherin.”

Comment: I don’t know what was more rotten: Sauer’s
turnips or Danny’s Star witness Ehlert.

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Subject: Re: Blackmore Lies Again
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes

Which, of course, iks not a schoolbook.

Of course you will produce a schoolbook for us, won’t you
Yale?

> No mention of 4,000,000 “Jews.”

No, Yale, they were Hindus.
>
> No mention of “Jews.”

No, Yale, they were Eskimoes.
>
> > Well, Mr. Counselor, you can now add your name to the list
> > of the other liars
>
> Actually what we can do is not bother to erase your name from the list of
> distortionists.

Oh, I see. “Big brother” compiles “lists”….but not like
“Schindler’s list”, I take it. Who is “we” by the way?
>
> > > No reference to Jews.

No, they were Bantu Pygmies.

Live with it. The Poles were taught, correctly,
> > > that approximately 25% of the population of Poland was killed by your nazi
> heroes.
> > > They were never taught that 90% of Polish Jews were murdered; the word
> “Jew”
> > > was never mentioned in their histories or in their classrooms.

Liar. I have a friend from Poland who emphatically
states that it was.
>
>
.
>
> You still have yet to produce a statement by the Poles that 4,000,000
> “Jews” were murdered at Auschwitz. The Poles were never taught that the
> majority of victims were Jewish.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>

Q: How do you know when a lawyer is lying?

A: His lips are moving.
rb

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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > Never. In fact, it would be reversible error to submit them to a jury.
> You
> > > may, if you were not such a lazy, lying jerk look them up yourself. You
> have been
> > > told both where they are and how to find them.
>
> > Liar. they don’t exist or they would have been
> > published years ago.
>
> They were. That’s how I found them.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Liar.

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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >If they ARE unlikely to be easily accessible, and they ARE,
> >what do you think is the reason for it?
>
> BlackMoron, just how accessible do you think *any* autopsy
> reports are? Try finding the autopsy report of, say, Francisco
> Franco. When you can’t, you can tell us that the old SATURDAY
> NIGHT LIVE line was wrong after all: Franco is no longer dead.
>
>>>>
You ARE a fool, after all, a silly little blowhard who at
least admits that he never researchs anything he posts
his frivolous opinions about. Go back to your toy trains.
. These are
documents which your alter-ego Yale Edeikin said
were available, and which he had access to. If you
are going to answer like a fool to posts, don’t bother
posting.

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According to “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”
page 78, there appears the following caption
below a photograph of a Jewish Partisan:

“Lola Warszawczyk killed while blowing up
the 16th train was posthumously awarded
the highest order “Hero of the Soviet Union”.

Shengold Press, 1978/Kowalski.

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > >
> > > Please produce the post where I “promised” to supply you with a
> > > pathologist’s raw notes and the tox reports?
>
> > > Produce it or stop lying about it.
>
> > That isn’t even a good try. where are the reports?
>
> In Larson’s report; where I always said it was.
>
> Where’s the post where I said otherwise, sonny boy?
>
>>>>
Where are the toxicological reports? I’m hungry for
that crow pie I was told I would eat.
rb

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> >
> > Indeed I do. However, you won’t begrudge me an error
> > simply because the actual quote was unavailable to me at
> > the time, would you?
>
> At the time you made your claims, you claimed to have *photographs*
> in front of you that proved you correct. And now that you have been nailed on
> this one you are repeating the same tactic of taking a Polish source which
> refers to Polish dead and claiming that they are referring to “Jews.”
>
>
>
> > Anyway, whether they were gassed
> > or not is simply quibbling. The whole statement on the slab was a lie
> > through and through and that is the main point. And the
> > lie has been quoted SO often by so many sources that it
> > should shame people….
>
> And it was protests by, among others, Jewish groups that casued the
> change. Live with it.
>
>
> > If you can’t believe the messengers, how can you
> > believe the message?
>
> You have given us ample reason to doubt you as a messenger.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Who is “us”? It must be truly discomfiting for you
when you see your whole facade of lies collapsing
all around your head…..rb

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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> # Also, in Soviet hands, Hoess must have fared
> # much worse treatment,
>
> Absolute rubbish. Hoess wrote in his memoirs some things that
> infuriated his Soviet and Polish captors:

What is your proof they were infuriated?
>
> 1) That 1.3 million died in Auschwitz, as opposed to their
> estimate of 4 million. Moreover, he mocks the higher
> estimates as “figments of the imagination”, which “lack
> any foundation”.

As were all the estimates. All of your speculation is
worthless without the complete record of Hoess’s
trial in Poland anyway. Either way, it is irrelevant what
Hoess wrote then or before as it is all absolute rubbish.
Neither 1.3 million died, nor 4 million, nor 4.5 million,
nor 2 million, nor 2,5 million. Get the
point? It is all worthless. Now, where is the proof that anyone
was gassed at Auschwitz? Are you relying on Hoess?
>
> Are you indeed such a poor, retarded little Nazi that you
> cannot understand that it doesn’t make any sense that, had
> they “tortured him into saying what they wanted”, they would
> NOT have told him to write this?

Hoess was “tortured into saying what they wanted” long
before the Soviets assumed custody for him. How am I
to fathom the mind of a man doomed to die in any event?
With or without Hoess, your Holocaust story is tumbling down
faster than a house of cards. Not because of Hoess, but by
the lack of forensic evidence and the lies told by :”survivors”
which are all now catching up with them. It is true that the
Soviets didn’t need Hoess to reiterate the 4 million figure, they
already had more than enough “survivors” like Ada Bimko
to maintain this figure for them. After all, who is going to believe
a lying little nazi scumbag like Hoess? It is all a pack of lies,
as you and your imp van Alstine point out every day….
>
> 2) That the Soviet POW’s behaved like animals, killing each
> other for a piece of bread, and practiced cannibalism.

This was no skin off there back. Throw the poor dog a bone…
>
> Can you tell us, nazi-boy, WHY the Soviets would have “forced”
> him to write this?

Who forces you to write the canard of 6 million dead Jews?
>
> 3) That the Polish inmates were bitterly fighting among themselves,
> and killing each other, in battles for a higher position in
> the inmate hierarchy.
>
> C[4026k]tell us, nazi-boy, why the Poles would have “forced”
> Hoess to write this?

The Poles were only interested in one thing-hanging Hoess.
And killing Jews, like at Kielce. It is obvious that the Poles
never hanged Hoess on that account. They were over-
joyed to be rid of the Jews, and Hoess as well, but for
reasons other than your narrow little mind might suspect.
>
> Mr. Van-Alstine is kind to you. Calling you a “scumbag Nazi apologist”
> is a serious overestimate. You’re much lower.

I didn’t realize you were losing the debate this badly, Danny boy.
>No matter how low I may sink you will always be
lower…..imagine a grown man turned on by
atrocity photos. You are mentally ill Danny. You
ought to get treatment.

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According to author Isaac Kowalski in his
book “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”
page 77:

“330,000 Germans surrendered and 91,000,
including 24 Generals, marched out…..Only
5,000 Germans came back to Germany
after years of labor in deep Russia.”

Comment: SIX FEET deep, I might add.
Wonder what happened to those thousands
of human beings? I would ask the Polish
officers taken prisoner by the Soviets and
sent to katyn, but they seemed to have never
returned home either. They also were said to
have been sent to labor camps, or else “fled
to China…….”

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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >She was quite explicit as to the figure.
>
> No argument. She explcitly remembered that someone else had mentioned
> that figure. She did not calculate it herself, and it’s certainly possible
> she misremembered it. So what?

She was adamant. And she repeated the lie that a “Sonerkommando”
allegedly told her.
>
>> Isn’t this gilding the lily? If you think she was a liar, why do
> you suppose this Sonderkommando even existed?

If he didn’t that would make her a greater liar.
>
> BTW, what was a “Sonderkommando”? What were the duties of a
> “Sonderkommando”? Clerical? Janatorial?

You know what the duties of a Sonderkommando was-disposal
of the dead. Don’t play coy.
>
> I’m still not insisting that Bimko was telling the truth–I haven’t
> made any investigation into her credibility. But you have failed to
> produce anything which would cast doubt on that credibility.

Your standards for evaluating the truth must be VERY low.

Your
> evaluation of her “other lies” is obviously unreliable given your
> record so far.

It’s not my record-which, by the way is honest, but HER record,
and she condemns herself. A pity you haven’t the fortitude to admit it
or the eyes to see it.
rb
>
>>>>

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > > > > Matthew Monroe.
>
> > > > And?
>
> > > There is no “and.” You asked where I got the photographs. He was
> > > the source.
>
> > Yes, but where did he obtain the photographs?
>
> From his photo album of one of his trips home to Poalnd.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Well, when did he go there? What year?

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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >According to the authors of the book, “Anti-Semitism-causes
> >and effects, one may read on page 257:
>
> >”….Streicher’s Der Stuermer regularly devoted issues
> >to the theme of ritual murder illustrated in gory and
> >pornographic detail.”
>
> >Comment: Now, if THAT isn’t a gross distortion
> >and a lie, I’ll eat a sour blintze.
>
> Interesting comment, implying that you have access to significant
> archives of DER STUERMER. Can you give us some details on this?
> I for one have a morbid interest in antisemitic literature in
> general, and would be interested in checking this out.
>
>>>>
Sure, but you will have to access the whole Streicher
Pornographer thread under Deja News. You will have
more than enough material there to satisfy your morbid
interests.
rb

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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53q92r[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>
> :>> :>But the lie of 4 million Jewish “gassed” at Auschwitz
> :>> :>was officially chiseled out of the massive slabs in front
> :>> :>of the Auschwitz Museum in 1994! Let’s talk about that
> :>> :>one for a while.
> :>>
> :>> They were wrong, Mr. Blackmore. Does their having been wrong mean that no
> :>> Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>
> :>On this particular issue? No. As to the
> :>gassings, that is a separate
> :>question we can deal with later.
>
> So you admit that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz. Thank you.
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
I did not admit anything of the sort, Mr. McFee. I write
that this is a separate question we can deal with later,
and that is what I intend to do.
rb

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> [email protected] (Derek Bell) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
> >I will give it in e-mail and it is not to be posted.
> >If you agree to this, then e-mail me.
>
> Why don’t you post your definition to the newsgroup?
>
> Derek
>
> —
> Derek Bell d[email protected] WWW: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dbell/index.html
> “Donuts – is there _anything_ they can’t do?” – Homer Simpson
>
>>>>
I shall, in time…..You wouldn’t want me to post an opinion
before I had a chance to research it, whould you? Sure…
you would.
rb

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Belsen: The Suppressed Story
Date: 16 Oct 1996 07:04:25 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>

>
> >Finally:
>
> >Q:- Did you actually see anyone except the Hungarians
> >shoot an internee?”
>
> >A: “No.” Page 67.
>
> >END OF QUOTES. All taken from, “The Belsen Trial”
>
> Did the Hungarian guards just wander into Belsen and start shooting
> people? Under whose command were they? The British?
>
> This is too lame even for you.
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —

>>>
Try reading the book, Mr. Morris…..Here is
another example of how flimsy many of your
Holocaust tales really are. By the way, it is
odd that none of these Hungarians were ever
convicted for these shootings, to my knowledge.
It seems that the Hungarians were regarded as
“allies” by the time the trial ended. “And Justice
for All”………..Ha.

From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 20:14:18 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Rblackmore is still a liar….Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>

> [snip]
>
> > > > Nope. I post what I post. Visit a library. I’m sure you’ll
> > > > find a copy there. BTW, I mentioned the year already – 1961.
> > >
> > > What you post are lies. However, if you think that I am going to waste my
> > > time trying to correct a figure in a book that is 35 years old, think
> > > again.
> >
> > Ha Ha Ha….go for a newer edition then-the same lie is
> > still in there………
>
> Then you failed to to provide the correct information, so I’ll ask again.
> What year is the latest edition with the incorrect figure.
>
>>>>

> Neither did a Joosh ™ conspiracy

You believe in a Joosh conspiracy, Gandhi?

> Well let’s see. I’ve contacted the Discovery Channel. I’ve contacted the
> publisher of WWII magazine. I have yet to receive a response from either of
> them.

I am looking forward to reading their replies.

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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >Well, we won’t be looking YOUR way if we are interested
> >in the truth.
>
> Just wait until David Irving presents the letter from Hoess to his family fully admitting
> the torture he received.
>
> Coming right up!
>
> Kurt Stele
>
>
>>>>
I’m all eyes and ears!

From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 23:10:20 PDT 1996
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From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 23:10:21 PDT 1996
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From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 23:10:22 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 23:10:22 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>

From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 23:10:23 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>

> Neither did a Joosh ™ conspiracy

You believe in a Joosh conspiracy, Gandhi?

> Well let’s see. I’ve contacted the Discovery Channel. I’ve contacted the
> publisher of WWII magazine. I have yet to receive a response from either of
> them.

I am looking forward to reading their replies.

From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 23:10:24 PDT 1996
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From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:34 PDT 1996
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> :>
> :>
> :>>
> :>>>>>
> :>Right. I am a figment of your imagination.
>
> “R. Blackmore” does not exist, that is correct.
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Thanks for the input Gordie. Neither does “Kirk
Douglas”, “Edward G. Robertson”, “Voltaire”,
“Kirk Douglas”,etc. etc.,

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:34 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> :
> : > You are incorrect. Nysli was known to other physicians at Auschwitz.
> : >Further he gave a deposition in 1945.
> :
> : Ah, yes, the man of the mauve ZB. Would you buy a used holocaust from a
> : man like that, dickless?
> :
>
> Clearly a case of mistaken identity!!!
>
> The Hungarian medical practitioner in Auschwitz who wrote
> about his experiences was a Dr Nyiszli.
>
> Who is this Nysli character? Where is his birth certificate?
>
> Surely someone who considers the difference bewtween “mauve”
> and “blue” in a translated version of a book to be primary
> evidence of fraudulence can distinguish between the personage
> of one Dr Nyiszli and some Nysli character.
>
>
> d.A.
>
>>>>
Your comments are boring…..

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:35 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53qdc0[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> :>

>
> The figure of over a million is in dispute only by you.

Not so, Mr. McFee. Reitlinger and Pressac place the
death tolls at the figures I mentioned.

The latest research
> puts the figure at over a million.

This is what the hoaxers now feel they can “get away
with”, but that too will be disproven in time. Indeed, the
figures released from the Moscow Archives recently place the
total number of Jewish dead at Auschwitz at 46,000.

So you say that you don’t accept one kind
> of eyewitness testimony because you accept other eyewitness testimony.

Which eyewitness testimony do you reder to?

That
> is “selective” reasoning to cast it is its best possible light. It is
> dishonest reasoning by most other standards.
>
> The fact that most of the arrivees at Auschwitz (and other camps) were not
> registered, but were instead murdered almost immediately does not stem from
> only eyewitness testimony, but also from documentation from the camp itself
> and from the Amt IV B 4 records.

Details, please?
>
> Please give us _your_ definition of the Holocaust, so we know from where we
> start.

I will give it to you by e-mail if you request it.
>
>
> —
>
rb

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:36 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?camps/auschwitz/images/
>
> furnace-capacity.jpg
> Letter from Jahrling to Kammler, stating that the combined
> crematoriums in Auschwitz-Birkenau can cremate 4,756 corpses
> in 24 working hours.
>
> Vergasungskeller.jpg
> Document mentioning the “gassing cellar” in Krema II in
> Birkenau.
>
> Gas_Detector.jpg
> Letter asking to deliver detectors for cyanide gas to
> crematorium in Birkenau.
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>>>>
This doesn’t mean that they WERE cremating 4,756
corpses in 24 hours, silly.
rb

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:37 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: “Der Stuermer”-Hitler’s Favorite Mag?
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> “Annie Alpert, OFB” <[email protected]> writes:
>

> >
>
> Geez, Kaufmann was just responding in anger to a book that called for
> killing Jews (Germnay Must Live, Roth). While The Jews didn’t have a
> chance to act out any of Kaufmann’s projections, Germany actually
> carried out a good deal of Mr. Roths.

Can we have some quotes from Mr. Roth? Also, this gives
Kaufman no pretext for calling for the extermination of the
German people, and I would say that the allies carried
out a good deal of Kaufman, Morganthaum and Ehrenburg’s
incitations as well. Geez, Streicher was only responding to
Kaufman……..
rb
>
>
> —
> Nizkor (USA) – An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
> Nizkor Web: https://nizkor.org/
> Anonymous ftp: http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?
> European mirror: http://www1.de.nizkor.org/~nizkor/
>
> And be sure to check out:
> http://www1.us.nizkor.org/~fatbroad
>
>>>>

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:38 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Miloslav Bilik) writes:
>
)
>
> The room was intact after the war and is still visible. With the
> documents, we know even the cost of the realization of this room in
> the former farm.
>
> There is a letter of Sievers (September 5 44) telling that some
> corpses are still “unprocessed”. And when the Allied forces entered in
> Strasbourg, they found parts of these corpses still present in the
> Institute of anatomy.
>
> With all this stuff, I wonder what could be acceptable as an evidence
> for you ? The only fact that relies only on Kramer’s testimony is what
> Hirt told about the nature of the salt.
>
>
>
>>>>
Right, it’s really UNUSUAL to find corpses in
an Institute for Anatomy-tell us another one, Sherlock.
By the way, I am not going to debate this subject until
I am ready.
rb

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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53s0jf$18[email protected]> – [email protected] Oct 1996
> 00:13:35 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> :>> :>
> :>> :>”rblackmore” agrees that Kramer is a reliable witness. He
> :>> :>must agree, then, that what Kramer said about the murders
> :>> :>in the Natzweiler and Birkenau gas chamebrs is also true.
> :>>
> :>> Hehehe.
> :>>
> :>> I will be watching for the answer to this one.
> :>>
>
> :>It is posted, but I think you will be disappointed with
> :>what Danny thought was a clever stratagem.
>
> I am only disappointed that I momentarily thought you were serious about civil
> and inquiring debate. Your non-answer to Dr. Keren did not disappoint me at
> all–it is what I expected.
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Of course you wouldn’t expect me to admit a lie would you?
The fact is, you were gloating over the fact that Ole Danny
had finally “caught” me. Fact is, I saw through the ploy
immediately. I don’t have to invent answers as many of
the prosecution witnesses at the belsen trial.
rb

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> [email protected] (pgroff) writes:
> On 16 Oct 1996 09:36:47 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >According to “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”
> >page 78, there appears the following caption
> >below a photograph of a Jewish Partisan:
> >
> >”Lola Warszawczyk killed while blowing up
> >the 16th train was posthumously awarded
> >the highest order “Hero of the Soviet Union”.
> >
> >Shengold Press, 1978/Kowalski.
> Really rblackmore/jbellling, you must be drinking the BBTT’s private
> stock. Wherein the caption does it say that “Lola Warszawczyk” was
> Jewish?? How would a photograph of a dead person prove that person was
> Jewish?? Besides if all this is true, then I have to wonder, are you
> some how bothered that people fought back against the Nazi Regime??
> Let alone that some who fought back were Jews??
>

>
>>>>
If you have been following the posts concerning
Mr. Kowalski’s book, then you would know that
she was indeed Jewish. Aside from that, I have
a reason for posting everything, and I shall get
to those reasons in due time. Now, in answer to
your question:

No, I have no objections to Jewish people
defending themselves. Why would I ever
object to that? The purpose of Mr. Kowalski’s
book, by the way, was to demonstrate that the
Jews DID fight. All of this is leading somewhere.
Hab Geduld, mein Junge, hab Geduld.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:40 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>
….
> :>>
> :>> Which has what to do with the historicity of the Holocaust?
> :>>
> :>>
> :>>
> :>> —
> :>> Gord McFee
> :>> I’ll write no line before its time
> :>>
> :>>
> :>>>>>
> :>I will get to everything in due time.
>
> In other words, you have no answer. I thought so. Thanks for playing.

Have it your way. I’ll write no line before its time.
rb
>
>
>

>
>
>>>>

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:41 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> On 15 Oct 1996 23:48:46 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] writes:
>
> >> > > > Matthew Monroe.
> >
> >> > > And?
> >
> >> > There is no “and.” You asked where I got the photographs. He was
> >> > the source.
>
> >> Yes, but where did he obtain the photographs?
>
> > From his photo album of one of his trips home to Poalnd.
>
> Stop it, Biwer. Even I can spell better than that.
>
>
>
>>>>
And what year was this trip?

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:42 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >What greater lie is there than to maintain for
> >50 years that 4 million people were murdered
> >at Auschwitz, the majority of them Jews?
> >Answer that one, Mr. Honesty.
>
> Oh, there’s the lie that the death of five or six million Jews at
> the hands of the Third Reich never happened, or was some sort of
> unavoidable natural phenomenon. I’d say that’s a greater lie.

It would be, if you ever had proof that it happened, which you
don’t. All you have is highly circumstantial evidence and a
mountain of phoney eyewitness testimonies.
>
> What the hell does it matter in the final analysis whether a given
> group of Holocaust victims totalled one million or four million?
> Is one million OK with you? Is it only a quarter as bad? Just a
> midemeanor? Why all this harping on a figure which, morally (to any
> sane and decent human being) makes not a whit of difference in our
> judgment on the perpetrators?

Perhaps the figure is much lower than you think.
Will you call for the utter condemnation of the
United States in perpetuity because they persecuted the
Afro-Americans and Native Indians?
>
>>>>

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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <[email protected]> –
> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> :>
> :>[email protected] wrote:
> :>
> :>[snip]
> :>
> :>>No. Fleming is probably one of the most biased
> :>>sources one could refer to-perhaps that is why you
> :>>selected him?
> :>
> :>Oh dear. Why is Gerald Fleming “one of the most biased sources one
> :>could refer to?” Because you say so, or do you simply dismiss
> :>respected historians with an airy wave of your hand because they
> :>happen to disagree with your views?
>
> Gerald Fleming is everything the denier scum wish they were. Honest.
> Meticulous. Accurate. Objective.
>
> He is their mortal enemy because of this.
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
You’re living in the same dream world as Fleming.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:43 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote:
> >
> > > Face it, sonny boy, you just can’t stand the truth.
> >
> > Face it “sonny boy” your Holocaust is lying piece of Jewish filth, which
> is why Jews must
> > cowardly censor the counter-evidence to it.
>
> No evidence is censored, simply because no evidence exists which can refute
> the FACT of the Holocaust. Yet, hatemongers, like nazi-boy Zundel, the
> flatulent Metzgers, and even trolls like yourself, Moron, Blackmore, and
> Giwer are entirely free to state your opinion. I’m guessing that your
> hostility come from the fact that anytime your Joo ™ hating buddies
> present ‘conclusive proof’ that the Holocaust never happened, the evidence
> is soundly refuted, and the same troglodytic compadres are made to look
> like, well, the inbred weasels that they are.
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your
> life and your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
> If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
>
>>>>
Are you suggesting that I hate Jews, Mr. Gandhi?
rb

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:44 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>
>
> > Gerald Fleming is everything the denier scum wish they were. Honest.
> > Meticulous. Accurate. Objective.
>
> > He is their mortal enemy because of this.
>
> And proof that his legacy will continue can be found at:
>
> http://www.soe.usfca.edu/CIT/denial/home.html
>
> For those who would continue blackmore’s legacy look under the nearest
> flat rock.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
And you ought to find our big time lawyer crawling
underneath. Even the fish wouldn’t nibble at him.

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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
> # [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>
> ## Your reply did nothing. You are wrong about the inscription
> ## and were not man enough to admit it.
>
> # Gordie, you are in error. I did admit it, but my honest error
>
> He-he. “honest error”… you lying nazi scumbag.
>
> Didn’t I warn you nazi scumbags already? If you’re going to
> lie, try to make it a lie which is hard to detect. Not something
> that people can easily look up.
>
> But I guess you’re not too smart to invent clever lies.
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>>>>
One doesn’t have to be smart to show you up for the liar
you are.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:45 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53udad[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> :>>
> :>..
> :>>
> :>> The figure is available in many places, virtually any study of the Holocaust.
> :>> Try Fleming’s _Hitler and the Final Solution_, Appendix.
>
> :>No. Fleming is probably one of the most biased
> :>sources one could refer to-perhaps that is why you
> :>selected him?
>
> You haven’t even read Fleming, have you? If you had, you would realize what a
> stupid statement you just made.
>
> Fleming is the deniers’ bane. His work is monumentally sourced, full of
> footnotes, a monument of scholarship. It is easy to see why the deniers fear
> him. He cannot be rebutted, since his sources are all first-hand. Real
> piss-off, right Mr. “Blackmore”?
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
I have read more than you have on this subject, and
I don’t agree with your darling Fleming. Only a stupid
person would but into his claptrap. Fleming’s sources
are as phoney as he is.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:46 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
Gandhi’s vomit trashed
>
> Since you are the one who claims that more than 6 million innocents were
> not destroyed in the Nazi effort to fulfill Hitler’s agenda, the onus lies
> upon you to support your claims.

No it isn’t. Prove that six million died.

That you continue to refuse to do so in
> the face of a staggering amount of PROOF of the Holocaust, including BOTH
> eyewitness testimony and physicial evidence, is merely telling of the lack
> of foundation upon which you vomit your garbage.

As I have been steadily posting, your “proof” is
a pack of shoddy lies.
>
> [snip]
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning,

Ask God to give you a brain.

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > > > [email protected] writes:
>
> > > > > > > Matthew Monroe.
>
> > > > > > And?
>
> > > > > There is no “and.” You asked where I got the photographs.
> He was
> > > > > the source.
>
> > > > Yes, but where did he obtain the photographs?
>
> > > From his photo album of one of his trips home to Poalnd.
>
> > Well, when did he go there? What year?
>
> 1986, 1988, 1990, 1992, 1994
>
> And the inscription he saw, as you have admitted, neither mentioned
> Jews or gassing.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
It did mention 4 million dead. How many of them were Jews,
Yale? Then break down the rest of the figures by nationality,
religion, and exact numbers.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:47 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
> # [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
>
> ## So, “rblackmore”, do you admit you lied when you wrote – a few
> ## times mind you – that the monument said “4 million Jews”?
>
> # Answer this first-do you admit you lie when you say that 6,000,000
> # Jews were murdered during ww II?
>
> No.
>
> Now answer my question, nazi-boy.
>
>
> -Danny Keren.

Seeing you failed to answer truthfully, commie boy,
you don’t deserve an answer. You were born a
liar.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 07:25:48 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (I ain’t got no home) writes:
>

> > shooting was not confined to Hungarians; it was simply terrible,
> > hundreds were shot per day.
>
> If you wish to be successful in this technique you need to let something
> like this sit for a month and then post it so it is hard to find what you
> left out.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>>
I’m not worried about it. Your Holocaust is
on the way out soon anyway.

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> [email protected] (I ain’t got no home) writes:

Hitler
> >orchestrated the murder of more than 6 million innocents.

No, jews were in charge of the orchestra at Auschwitz. They
used to play tunes like, “Happy days are here again”….a favorite
during the depression.
>
> So where are the remains of the TWELVE million, gullible little fool.
>
>
>
>
>>>>
Nuremberg. What a joke. ROTFL. You’re entitled
to your opinion, however ignorant. Where are the
6 millions, fool? Perhaps you will also identify and
prove that 20 million Soviets died while you’re at it?

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> [email protected] (Miloslav Bilik) writes:
>

> Bye for now, Watson.
>
>
>
>
>>>>
Ta ta and cheerio.

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> [email protected] (Miloslav Bilik) writes:
> [email protected] (Miloslav Bilik) wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
>
> >>Therefore, you’re not ready, Watson? It’s a shame.
>
> >>As I leave near Natzweiler and Strasbourg, and I can easily consult
>
> Sorry, read “I live”. I use a translator from French to English to
> spare my time. I stand living near Strasbourg.
>
>
>
>>>>
Give my regards to the family.

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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Well, good for major Birney and his opinions, but
> >that didn’t prevent an additional 14,000 people
> >from dying while the camp was under British
> >administration. Perhaps Birney should have been
> >charged with their deaths, just as Kramer was….
>
> For not instantaneously reversing the effects of months or years
> of deliberate Nazi mistreatment?
>
>>>>
Didn’t quite work that way…..

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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
>
.
>
> Ahh yes, the gas chambers, cyanide traces, nazi documents,
> and eyewitness testimony that you don’t believe in.
>

Golly, “cyanide traces” in a facility that used Zyklon almost daily
for pest control and delousing…….sure would be odd to find some
traces from that around……………………………………Your eyewitness
testimony is being dealt with, slowly but surely………>
You ought to get together with Gandhi sometime, even
2 heads without brains might be better than one.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 09:14:56 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <541ntd$[email protected]> – [email protected] (Kurt Stele)
> writes:
> :>
> :>[email protected] (Gord McFee) wrote:
> :>
> :>>In message <53s0jf$18[email protected]> – [email protected] Oct 1996
> :>>00:13:35 GMT writes:
> :>>:>
> :>>:>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> :>>:>> :>
> :>>:>> :>”rblackmore” agrees that Kramer is a reliable witness. He
> :>>:>> :>must agree, then, that what Kramer said about the murders
> :>>:>> :>in the Natzweiler and Birkenau gas chamebrs is also true.
> :>>:>>
> :>>:>> Hehehe.
> :>>:>>
> :>>:>> I will be watching for the answer to this one.
> :>>:>>
> :>
> :>>:>It is posted, but I think you will be disappointed with
> :>>:>what Danny thought was a clever stratagem.
> :>
> :>>I am only disappointed that I momentarily thought you were serious about civil
> :>>and inquiring debate. Your non-answer to Dr. Keren did not disappoint me at
> :>>all–it is what I expected.
> :>
> :>I think you made the mistake of thinking -Keren- was interesting in civil and inquiring
> :>debate.
>
> No, I didn’t. Mr. “Blackmore” said he was interested in civil debate. I
> agreed. His civility lasted exactly one day.
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
That is longer than yours lasted.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 09:14:57 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore Lies Again
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> [email protected] (Alexander Baron) writes:
> In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
>
> >
> > > Here is a direct quote from the Polish Commission:
> >
> > > “As is well known, the Soviet Legal and Medicinal
> > > Commission, which arrived at Auschwitz immediately
> > > after the flight of the Germans, has stated that the
> > > number of the murdered EXCEEDED 4,000,000. (Caps mine)
> >
> > No mention of 4,000,000 “Jews.”
> >
> >
> > > These calculations are in conformity with the data obtained
> > > during the inquiry from a competent (!-rb) witness, a railway
> > > employee from Oswiecim station. This man, Fr. Stanek,
> > > stated that in the three years 1942-1944, 3,850,000
> > > prisoners were brought to Oswiecim by rail. Five millions
> > > would be nearer the mark counting those brought by car.”
> > > Page 90.
> >
> > > end of quote.
> >
> >
> > No mention of “Jews.”
>
> Isn’t this the book that reports a “giant Jew” was given free reign in
> Treblinka to bash people’s heads in?
>
> Tee hee.
>
> —
> “He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
> the accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
>
>>>>
Indeed it is. Among other delicacies.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 09:14:57 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore’s problems with Freedom Fighters (was Re: Kill em all, let G-d sort em out….)
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> [email protected] (Derek Bell) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
> > Are you maintaining that the Jews took action against the Nazis because they
> >invaded Poland?
>
> Yes, because many Jews *gasp* lived there!!
>
> Derek
> —
> Derek Bell d[email protected] WWW: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dbell/index.html
> “Donuts – is there _anything_ they can’t do?” – Homer Simpson
>
>>>>
Some living.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 09:14:58 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:38:49 GMT, [email protected] (John Morris)
> wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
>
> >[in response to Yale Edeiken re: Dr. Charles Larson’s forensic
> >reports]
>
> >>You are the liar. I asked from day one for the reports
> >>as soon as you made the mistake of telling me they
> >>existed. Where are they? I read what Larson said
> >>and I do NOT accept his opinions without the proof
> >>to confirm it.
>
> >Of course, you believe Larson was a liar. Why was Larson a liar?
> >Because he was in on the “cover-up.” What cover-up? Why the cover-up
> >of the truth about the Holocaust.
>
> You silly shit. Ediken is a liar, McVay is a liar, Keren is a liar. We
> know that.
>
> We are all dumbshit little liars.
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —
> The Nizkor Project | https://nizkor.org/
>
>
>
>>>>
Thanks for finally admitting it, silly little liar.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 09:14:59 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>

> [deleted]
>
> :>> Please give us _your_ definition of the Holocaust, so we know from where we
> :>> start.
> :>
> :>I will give it to you by e-mail if you request it.
>
> Why only by e-mail?
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Why ask my opinion anyway? Have a few more
“labels” you’d like to throw at me, simply because
you don’t have Dick Nixson to kick around anymore?

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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:29:44 GMT, [email protected] (John Morris)
> wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
>
> >[re: the difficulty of obtaining documents from archival sources which
> >of course are difficult to obtain unless you can produce a letter of
> >recommendation demonstrating a serious scholarly purpose, and
> >sometimes even that is not enough, as I found out to my chagrin two
> >summers ago at the Bodleian Library, though I finally did manage to
> >obtain a reader’s pass, but that’s a whole other story]
>
> >>If they ARE unlikely to be easily accessible, and they ARE,
> >>what do you think is the reason for it?
>
> >It’s a Jewish conspiracy?
>
> Of course did you miss your invitation to the planning session? All us
> Jews are conspiring. It is in our blood. Just as Moshe the Just.
>
>
>
>>>>
I think lies are in your blood.

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
>
> > You ARE a fool, after all, a silly little blowhard who at
> > least admits that he never researchs anything he posts
> > his frivolous opinions about. Go back to your toy trains.
> > . These are
>
> > documents which your alter-ego Yale Edeikin said
> > were available, and which he had access to. If you
> > are going to answer like a fool to posts, don’t bother
> > posting.
>
> You were told where to find them. You haven’t looked.
>
> Everyone knows why.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Sure they do. because they’re not there……

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: I’m Waiting For Some Answers, Mr. Blackmore.
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:

> After you insisted that the British never pumped any
> water in from the river at all.

No, I’m not and never did. I am referring you to the
testimony.

It still doesn’t change
> the fact that Kramer had the means at his disposal to provide
> the camp with clean, drinkable water, and he simply did not
> do it.

That is your interpretation.
>
> You then invoked some mythical ‘filtering apparatus’ that
> the British used to clean the water up, using Matt Giwer
> as your expert witness.

I said it seemed reasonable NOT to drink untreated river water.
>
> Quite a hypocritical standard of evidence.

Really?
>
>
. If you require further details
> > refer to the posts.
>
> Three months is hardly ‘immediate’. In t

Come off it….3 months and almost 40,000 people are all crammed
into this one camp built to contain a fraction of that number. And
you and your ilk want to put ALL the blame on mean old Kramer….

>
> Instead, he did nothing, and the starving and sick were forced
> to work.

You’re overstating the situation again, but I’m not surprised.
Do you twist facts like this to your students as well?
>
> >
> > rb
>
> —
>

>>>>

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 09:15:02 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> # 1. What date do you give as the commencement of the
> # “final solution” at Auschwitz and why.
>
> It’s hard to define a specific date; it’s not an objective
> matter. One person could trace it back to the first gassings,
> another could say that a definitive date is when the construction
> of the huge Birkenau crematoriums began.
>
> # 2. At what date did Hoess leave as commandant, and on
> # what date did he return, and for how long?
>
> I don’t remember this offhand. Why do you ask?
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>
>>>>
That’s fine. Don’t answer. You’re a lying scum bag anyway.

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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> # Hoess was a fabricator and a liar just like many of
> # your survivors.
>
> In other words, the “Soviets and Poles told Hoess what to
> write in his memoirs” is out, and “Hoess was a fabricator and
> a liar” is in.
>
> Why would Hoess write, out of his own free will, all these
> “lies”? Only “rblackmore” knows. Same question for each
> and every SS-men who was in the camps.
>
> Next, it is “Hoess’ memoirs were forged by the ‘secret German
> UFOs'” (you know, the ones that “leading revisionist” Ernst
> Zundel likes to talk about).
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>>>>
Don’t forget Danny’s “erotic” photo collection….you
should have been in Kraft-Ebing.

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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:

:>Between two Germans this may not be the case. However in the course of
> :>learning this language the der die das articles are very difficult to
> :>keep straight.

Right, Gord…..Der Mann, Die Frau…….
> :>
> :>> German makes the genders quite
> :>>clear.
> :>
> :>To other Germans. However sie and Sie can be confused as Mark Twain
> :>points out

We are talking about a man and a woman……

. Some verbs can be turned into nouns by adding the neutral
> :>das before them. Secondly you haven’t a clue as to how the session
> :>went between the questioners and te questioned.

Doesn’t cut it……
>
> More than that, Mike. “Blackmore” doesn’t know any German at all. He’s just
> inventing what he says from whole cloth.

Sure. believe whatever you want…..you do anyway,
and this is no less full of shit than all the other tripe
you swallow like a dime novel…..
>
> (BTW, can you guess what his answer to this will be?)

There it is……
>
>
> —

>
>>>>

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53v[email protected]> – 996 10:45:49 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> :>>
> :>..
> :>>
> :>> Your reply did nothing. You are wrong about the inscription and were not man
> :>> enough to admit it.
>
> :>Gordie, you are in error. I did admit it, but my
> :>honest error is nothing compared to the obscene
> :>LIE that this agency fostered and nurtured for
> :>decades. What you should do is condemn the
> :>lie and the liars rather than attempt to make a
> :>mountain out of a molehill. Its the sportsman’s
> :>way.
>
> _You_ are in error, sir. You misstated something and only admitted when many
> people had posted proof that you were wrong. You never once apologized for
> your mistake, but chose rather to ridicule those who had pointed it out.
>
> The sportman’s way is to tell the truth. Give it a try sometime.
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
You KNOW what the truth is? Could have fooled me.

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:

.
>
> [snip]
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your
> life and your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
> If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
>
>>>>
When you arise in the morning, you ought to go straight
back to bed….saves you the humiliations you’re bound
to encounter during the day…….Mr. “Gandhi”, the Guru
of lies.

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Rich Graves) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
> >[email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) wrote:
> >
> >>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>[snip]
> >
> >>> After researching the article, it mentions 4 million people…I
> >>> believe you will agree that Jews are people, and that the
> >>> overwhelming majority of alleged fatalities at Auschwitz were
> >>> Jewish?
> >
> >>Irrespective of this fact, you have LIED again, this time about the
> >>Auschwitz Museum. Add this to your lies about the Simon Wisenthal Center,
> >>your lies about the motives of the Discovery Channel, and your credibility,
> >>which was not great to begin with, is now beyond non-existent.
> >
> >Nice try. You haven’t disproved blackmore on anything, lawyer-boy.
>
> Oh my. As if jew-boy wasn’t bad enough, now he’s calling you a LAWYER!
>
> -rich
>
>>>>
Definition of lawyer: Someone who lies for a living.
Definition of Yale: Someone who lies for a hobby.

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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <542n08$[email protected]> – [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken)
> writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>
.
> :>
> :> For those who would continue blackmore’s legacy look under the nearest
> :>flat rock.
>
> Hehehe.
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
The “gentleman”, Gordon McFee…………..Martin
Luther once wrote of Yale’s brethern:

“…the devil……..leads them to believe that this
and all their other lying and tomfoolery is something
precious……and…they lie and use bad language if
a man ventures to hold up to public obloquy….one of
their precious cousins.”

Source: “Werke, Erl. ed., 32, pg. 224..
“Von den Juden.”

Now, I am not saying that I totally agree with
Martin Luther, but it does sound a LOT like
Yale and some of his “friends”.
rb

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 09:15:08 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > I don’t know why you wasted your time or mine with this lame attempt to
> > defend a proven LIAR. Let me address your “salient” points….
>
> Hardly “lame.” He demolished you.
>
>
> > was to direct attention to the fact that she must have been a very strange type
> of physician,
> > who apparently could not differentiate between a male or a female. The
> comment was
> > used sarcastically.
>
> After you lied about her testimony.
>
>
> > I don’t find it relevant to her lies.
>
> There were no lies.
>
> There is one liar here. It is blackmore.
>
> –YFE
>
>
It takes one to know one, lawyer.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 09:15:09 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53vpqs$ba[email protected]> – [email protected] Oct 1996
>

> :>>
> :>> :>It is not a lie. The monuments (plural) stated that
> :>> :>4 million human beings perished at Auschwitz.

> :>>
> :>>
. And yet, you won’t even admit your error, let alone apologize for your
> :>> blatant misstatement of the truth.

No, Gordon, I won’t apologize for this, any more than you are
willing to apologize for the slander of repeating that 6 million
Jews were murdered by the Germans.
> :>>
> :>> And you claim to yearn for serious debate. };->

Do you?

It was more than an error, Mr. “Blackmore”. It was a multiple error.

Mr. McFee, stop playing simple little word games. Even if it didn’t say
4 million JEWS, whom do you think they were referring to? If you
examine the book from the Polish Commission which I quoted for Mr.
Edeikin, you would see that they give explicit totals for the alleged
dead at Auschwitz, and the non-Jews are an infinitesimally small
fraction of the alleged Jewsih dead. So, your nit-picking is really
serving no beneficial purpose. they LIED and the LIED BIG.
Such methods will never convince me or other skeptics of the truth of the
Holocaust especially when people like you continue to defend
it, even after its manifest forgeries are exposed.

What does it have to do with the historicity of
> the Holocaust?
>
In one word: EVERYTHING.
> :>If you can’t believe the messengers, how can you
> :>believe the message?
>
> This is the classic denier approach. Try to find an error in any part of the
> volumes of evidence on the Holocaust and then claim that the whole affair is
> untrue. Doesn’t work sir.

I have been doing that steadily and my work is far from done.
And it is working. The hysteria voiced every day in the media
is proof that the colossus is on its last legs. First comes ridicule,
then persecution, and finally, acceptance of an obvious fact.
. We are in phase two.
>
>
>
> —
>

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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
>
> > > Oh dear. Why is Gerald Fleming “one of the most biased sources one
> > > could refer to?” Because you say so, or do you simply dismiss
> > > respected historians with an airy wave of your hand because they
> > > happen to disagree with your views?
>
> > Or do you simply select sources who pour the most
> > unsubstantiated vitriol on the Germans? I suppose
> > Goldhagen is one of your darlings as well……..In any
> > case, Fleming’s book is a rather slim volumes packed
> > with unsupported accusations and conjectures. He is
> > the darling of the intentionalists.
> > rb
>
> You’re lying again. Most of Fleming’s most recent book “Hitler and the
> Final Solution” consists almost entirely of contemporary documents.
>
> Face it, sonny boy, you just can’t stand the truth.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Face it, Mr. Attorney, you can’t TELL the truth.
rb

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 10:57:03 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
>
So?
>
> >So, the figure went from 1 to 4 million and the
> >astute “Professor” settled with a final count of
> >3,000,000. Curiously, there was no mention
> >of Zyklon B in either article……..
> >
>
> He’s using Höss’account.
> Höss mentions “cyclon-B in his interrogation.
>
>
> Mike Curtis E-mail [email protected]

>
>>>>
He’s using your lies. The Holocaust is, in fact, a lie
built upon lies. You are proving it to me more and more each
day.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 15:47:53 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53vhl7[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> :>> > [email protected] writes:
> :>>
> :>> > You have the photos? From where?
> :>>
> :>> Matthew Monroe.
> :>>
> :>>>>>
> :>And?
>
> Try to keep up, Mr. “Blackmore”. Mr. Edeiken has called your bluff by giving
> a legitimate source for his statement. You might like to try it for once.
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
That’s legitimate….? His “friend”?

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> On 16 Oct 1996 04:00:43 GMT, [email protected] (Gord McFee) wrote:
>
> >In message <53vhl7[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> >:>
> >:>> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> >:>> > [email protected] writes:
> >:>>
> >:>> > You have the photos? From where?
> >:>>
> >:>> Matthew Monroe.
> >:>>
> >:>>>>>
> >:>And?
>
> >Try to keep up, Mr. “Blackmore”. Mr. Edeiken has called your bluff by giving
> >a legitimate source for his statement. You might like to try it for once.
>
> They came from Matthew Monroe. Any more disbelief and I will sue, sue I
> tell you. I am an attorney and all this sick nazi stuff has to stop.
> You are a criminal Mr. McFee, a criminal. A criminal, I tell you, a
> criminal.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>>
And so is your attorney.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 15:47:57 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>

>
> That being said, your criticism of Fleming is rubbish and you know it. You
> guys hate him big time because he has researched all the appropriate sources
> and has you guys by the balls.
>
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
I am not in the least bit disturbed by Flemings easily
refutable nonsense. he sounds, after all, like one of
you.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 15:47:58 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >> BTW, what was a “Sonderkommando”? What were the duties of a
> >> “Sonderkommando”? Clerical? Janatorial?
>
> >You know what the duties of a Sonderkommando was-disposal
> >of the dead. Don’t play coy.
>
> Funny thing. I worked in a prison for five years. We didn’t designate
> anybody–inmate or staff–as official dead-disposer. Why do you think
> that such an “office” was necessary in German “labor” camps?
>
>>>>
Why do you? I reckon you could have used a few
at Andersonville.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 15:47:59 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > > It is nothing I am hiding, by the way. I WILL post it
> > > > as soon as I am ready. You wouldn’t want me to
> > > > rush in with an opinion before I ahve thoroughly
> > > > researched the subject, would you?…..Sure, you would.
>
> > > The problem is that you should have “researched” it before you wrote
> > > rather than after.
>
> > We are discussing Auschwitz here, and I really
> > have made any definitive statement yet.
>
> That’s incorrect. You have posted definitive statements about the
> monuments to those murdered by the nazis. You have also stated your
> conclusions. Most people do their research first, then post conclusions. You do
> the opposite. For some conclusions about the denier arguments you post check
> out:
>
> http://www.soe.usfca.edu/CIT/denial/home.html
>
> It seems you are not making much headway with those who study
> history as a profession.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
We’ll see.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 15:48:00 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Derek Bell) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
> >Big Deal? And, no, I do not believe that over
> >a million people died at Auschwitz and I will post why
> >eventually.
>
> So why don’t you post your reason for believing so now:
>
> a) You haven’t got evidence to prove that over a million people didn’t
> die at Auschwitz.
>
> b) You don’t feel like posting your reason.
>
> c) Both.
>
> d) Or is it something else?
>
> Derek
> —
> Derek Bell d[email protected] WWW: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dbell/index.html
> “Donuts – is there _anything_ they can’t do?” – Homer Simpson
>
>>>>
I have to catch up on reruns of Seinfeld first. That’s
more important.

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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53vs7f$ba[email protected]> – [email protected] Oct 1996
> 11:23:27 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> :>> Chuck Ferree writes:
> :>>
> :>> blackmore, a simple question which you have aske me and many
> :>> others…now I’m asking you.
> :>>
> :>> What is your definition of The Holocaust? I mean your personal
> :>> definition!
> :>
> :>
> :>>
> :>>>>>
> :>I will give it in e-mail and it is not to be posted.
> :>If you agree to this, then e-mail me.
>
> May I ask why it can only be given in e-mail? Is that not what this newsgroup
> is all about?
>
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
I set my own terms as to when and what I post.

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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:

. Guess what? No one’s holding
> his breath.
>
>>>>
Who’s asking you to?

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> [email protected] (Derek Bell) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
> >I shall, in time…..You wouldn’t want me to post an opinion before I had a
> >chance to research it, whould you?
>
> Well, you seem so convinced that I thought you thought you had
> something to back it up with.
>
> Take all the time you want.
>
> Derek
> —
> Derek Bell d[email protected] WWW: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dbell/index.html
> “Donuts – is there _anything_ they can’t do?” – Homer Simpson
>
>>>>
I will.

From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 16:00:51 PDT 1996
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
>

> Mr. Blackmore, i cannot speak for the Soviet State Commision,
> nor can i speak for the Auscwitz State Museum which did not
> change its erroneous figures until 1990.

All right.
>
> The fact of the matter is, a most historical works did
> _not_ blindly parrot the four million figure (see the list included
> at the end of this post.)

A FEW didn’t-but many did, and this was grossly dishonest
and irresponsible, and some people used it as an advantage.
There are many records of people claiming false “reparations
payments” from germany under many aliases.
>
> Additionally, you clearly _lied_ about what the plaque said

>
No, I didn’t “lie” about what the plaque said-I did not have the
direct quote in front of me. I had 2 photos which clearly showed
the 19 slabs before and after erasure, but later I looked up the exact
inscription. Simply by going on memory, I wasn’t that far off. For you
to make a mountain out of a mole hill only indicates to many people
that you find the facts about this lie of 4 million dead uncomfortable.
By the way, thank you for posting the other distortions.
Yet you did not post Pressac’s. Of course I do not believe
that anywhere near a million people died at Auschwitz.
It will take a bit more time before the real figure relating
to the numbers og the dead at Auschwitz, but I am con-
fident that it will happen soon. Let us all hope that the
number is diminutive. You would like that, wouldn’t you?
rb

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 00:15:19 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck Ferree writes:
>
> blackmore, a simple question which you have aske me and many
> others…now I’m asking you.
>
> What is your definition of The Holocaust? I mean your personal
> definition!

>
>>>>
I will give it in e-mail and it is not to be posted.
If you agree to this, then e-mail me.
rb

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 00:15:20 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 11:21:05 GMT
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
>

>
> This is dishonesty personified.
>
>
> —
> Brian Harmon <[email protected]>>
What greater lie is there than to maintain for
50 years that 4 million people were murdered
at Auschwitz, the majority of them Jews?
Answer that one, Mr. Honesty.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 00:15:20 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 17 Oct 1996 11:48:29 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53vksg[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> :>> So, “rblackmore”, do you admit you lied when you wrote – a few
> :>> times mind you – that the monument said “4 million Jews”?
> :>>
> :>> Answer the question, please. You can say “I didn’t lie, I made a
> :>> mistake”. But do answer it.
> :>>
> :>>
> :>> -Danny Keren.
> :>>
> :>>
> :>>>>>
> :>Answer this first-do you admit you lie when you
> :>say that 6,000,000 Jews were murdered during
> :>ww II?
>
> Still not man enough to admit you made a mistake?
>
> Still not honest enough to admit your lies?
>
> Still too craven to admit you are a denier?
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Whatever gets through the night Mr. McFee.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 00:15:21 PDT 1996
Article: 75263 of alt.revisionism
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 17 Oct 1996 12:03:14 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > The fact of the matter is, a most historical works did
> > _not_ blindly parrot the four million figure (see the list included
> > at the end of this post.)
>
> A very good post Brian but you left out one source that I think should
> be included. William Shirer’s “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” is the most
> widely read book on nazi Germany. It cites the Reitlinger estimate.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Don’t forget the perjurying survivor eyewitnesses, from whom
this testimony often derived, as well as Nathan Ausubel’s
“Pictorial History of the Jewish People” which went through
more than 11 editions parroting the same fraudulent number
of 4 million Jews.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 09:24:59 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Einsatzgruppen: OSR-USSR-#24
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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On 14 Oct 1996 09:20:35 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> >> On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:30:48 GMT, [email protected] (Kurt Stele) wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >The Einsatzgruppen OSR-USSR #24 is a forgery.
> >> >
> >> >One cannot claim the hoaxsters don’t try hard enough, though…
> >>
> >> Still not the brightest bulb in the pack, are you, Untermensch?

> >
> >Don’t call me any of your family names Jerry,….I mean, Ken….
>
> And was this message addresses to you, Herr Belling? I think not unless you
> are posting as Kurt Stele. Are you posting as Kurt Stele, Herr Belling?
>
> >You have already pronounced yours, and you have had
> >access to Nizkor files for heaven knows how long….did
> >you ever stop to think that may be part of your problem?
>
> And strangely enough, Herr Belling, I seldom access them. But, I hardly
> think reading the truth is any harm to my character

Then why don’t you ever read it? What character, btw-the
nutty professor?
>
>
>>>>

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 09:25:00 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: I’m Waiting For Some Answers, Mr. Blackmore.
Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:10:26 GMT
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >I already replied quite honestly to Danny boys
> >sneaky but obvious attempt to “trick me” into
> >some sort of embarrassing imbroglio.
>
> At this point it’s obvious that nobody needs to “trick” you.
>
>>>>
What’s YOUR excuse?
rb

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 09:25:01 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > >>>>
> > First tell me why you lied about the British and
> > their water supply to Belsen, and then tell me why
> > you are ignoring the lies of Ada Bimko.
>
> To be blunt about it. I have not dealt with your extract from Bimko’s
> testimony because, clearly, nothing you posted showed she was lying.

Only a confirmed liar would say that.

You posted
> an extract in which, under cross examination, imprechment by prior inconsistent
> statement was attempted. Unfortunately she denied having made the previous
> statements for which impeachment was attempted. You presented nothing to
> indicate that she had made the previous statement.

She made 3.
>
> On a scale of 1-10: about a 2.
>
> Call her a liar on final argument and I am on my feet objecting.

Objection overruled and I move to change jurisdiction
due to extreme prejudice.

rb
>
>>>>

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 09:25:02 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:

Are you relying on Hoess?
> > >
> > > Piper does not rely on Hoess, nor did Georges Wellers. As I recall,
> > > Piper rejected all of Hoess’ figures since they were all guesses
> > > anyway.
> >
> > Not guesses, but fabrications, IMO.
>
> Well, ‘in your opinion’ Kramer did all he could to help
> the inmates of Belsen, which included:
>
> – refusing to give them water

He didn’t refuse. There wasn’t any.

> – refusing to give them food

He didn’t refuse. there was none for him to give. he
wasn’t Christ where he could feed thousands with loaves
and fishes.

> – refusing to give them medical attention

They had plenty of doctors. Little or no supplies.

> – forcing them to work without any of the above.

Do you imagine all 60,000 inmates were made to work?
The only work some of them were compelled to do was
help bury putrifying corpses or cooking food.
>
> Your opinions of how Kramer ‘helped’ the inmates are
> interesting, to put the matter lightly.

They are facts, whether interesting or otherwise.
>
> >
> >

>
> Well over a million people were transferred to Auschwitz
> by train. 200,000 were transferred out, and a few were released.

Thousands were transfered and released. 76,000 died. 46,000 of
them Jews.
>
> The rest vanished without a trace.

Well, we will simply have to trace them, won’t we?
>
> Given that Hoess, Eichmann, Broad, Mueller, Franke-Gricksch, Kammler,
> Fajnzylberg, Gurstein, Kramer and many others either testified or
> wrote (letters, memos, etc) that Jews were being murdered wholesale
> inside Auschwitz, what do you think happened to these people?

I have just read an interesting book entitled, Die Zweite Bablyonische
Gefangenschaft” and the author presents an interesting thesis about what
might have happened to these people. Unfortunately, the book has not
been translated into English.
>
>
> —
>

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 09:25:03 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Queen of Mean Lies-Ada Bimko, or is it Bimbo?
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> >> [email protected] writes:
> >>
> >> > No, I do not
> >> >”deny” all the events listed by Czech.
> >>
> >> Not the issue. The question is whether you accept Danuta Czech’s
> >> chronicle (with which I am indeed unfamiliar, nor have I ever claimed
> >> to have all the literature of the Holocaust at my fingertips) as
> >> basically accurate and trustworthy.
> >>
> >> Do you accept Czech’s chronicle as basically accurate and trustworthy?
> >>
> >> If not, who cares whether or not it confirms the assertions of Ada
> >> Bimko?
> >>
> >> You seem to have a serious problem judging your sources.
> >>
> >>>>>
> >You seem to have a serious problem of voicing
> >an opinion without doing any research.
>
> I don’t have a problem with the research, Mr. Blackmore.
>
>
>
>
>>>>
Neither do I.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 09:25:03 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
>
> > > Of course did you miss your invitation to the planning session? All us
> > > Jews are conspiring. It is in our blood. Just as Moshe the Just.
>
> > I think lies are in your blood.
>
> Of course, i did not write that, Matt Giwer did. You remeber the criminal
> Giwer. You thought it was a compliment to be compared to him. Now he put you
> in a rather bad position:
>
> Either you are a fool or a deliberate liar.
>
> Which is it?
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 09:25:04 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> > When you arise in the morning, you ought to go straight
> > back to bed….saves you the humiliations you’re bound
> > to encounter during the day…….Mr. “Gandhi”, the Guru
> > of lies.
>
> Since the only lies that have been clearly established are yours, with
> respect to the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the Discovery Channel, the Œ19
> slabs¹ at the Auschwitz Memorial Museum… I¹d suggest you take your own
> advice.
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your
> life and your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
> If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
>
>>>>
Isn’t it much better to give than to receive?

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Subject: Bimko on the Bum
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Here are a few comments about the testimony of Ms. Bimko sent to me by a “browser”:

She describes the building as brick. The area now said to have been used
for gas chambers is made of reinforced concrete, not brick. There is
no evidence of shower heads or plumbing for same. There is a drain in the floor. She speaks of cylinders of
gas. This would mean that HCN was stored
in liquid form, something no one has since claimed because it presents severe
technical difficulties as well as being highly unsafe. If the cylinder became too warm, the HCN would
explode. At any rate, no present day source puts forth a claim that HCN in cylinders was ever used. Please
keep in mind that HCN gas is lighter than air. Put the exits at head height, and the process slows
considerably since the gas will tend to rise.

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Subject: The Hossbach Hoax
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On November 5, shortly
after Schacht’s decision to resign because irrevocable, Hitler
called Goering, Minister of War Werner von Blomberg, Foreign
Minister Constantin von Neurath, and the army and Navy chiefs,
General Werner von Fritsch and Admiral Erich Raeder to the Reich
Chancellery to explain to them his views on Germany’s economic
condition and foreign relations. The notes of the meeting were kept
by Hitler’s adjutant, Colonel Friedrich Hossbach. They composed,
Sidney Alderman told the court, ‘one of the most striking and
revealing of all the captured documents.’ (IMT, vol. 2, 262)

“Except for Goering, all the men present at what came to be known as
the Hossbach Meeting were from the Nationalist camp, and Hitler’s
primary intent was to wean them away from Schacht’s gradualist
conception of rearmament. But, carried away and ranging, as was his
wont, from the Creation to the Apocalypse, he conducted a
four-and-a-half-hour monologue during which he presented his
blueprint for aggression.” (Conot, 134-136)

Work Cited

Conot, Robert E. Justice at Nuremberg. New York: Harper & Row,
1983

Abbreviations:

IMT. International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals;
the published transcipts of the trial.

Relying on those old, out-dated, and discredited sources
again…..According to the latest research by European
Historian Dankwart Kluge, he writes in his book, “The
Hossbach Protocol-the Destruction of a Legend”:

The Hossbach minutes exist neither in the original
nor in a duplicate. The prepared Microfilm copy of
the duplicate is untraceable. Only a photocopy of
the microfilm copy is in existence. From this source
differing versions have been published, which frequently
deviate from each other. The Document 386 PS, submitted
at the Nuremberg trial is spurious, and, indeed, not only within
the in the areas of discussion also with the statements of Hitler.
To the Jurist such a document is worthless. For the Historian,
I can see no other possibility of judgment.

Vorsicht! Faelschunng! FZ-Verlag, Muenchen, 1994, pg 287.

Furthermore, according to British historian A.P.Taylor,
concerning the alleged statements of Hitler and the
circle of listeners at this alleged conference,
he writes:

“Only Goering was a Nazi. The others were conservative
old timers, who had remained in the cabinet. Within the
next three months, all of them, with the exception of Raeder,
were dismissed. Hitler knew that all of them, Goering excepted,
were ill disposed towards him, and he distrusted them all.
Why should he declare his secret thoughts to these men,
whom he distrusted and would dismiss shortly thereafter?
To this question, there is a simple answer: He revealed his
secret thoughts to no one. For no foreign crisis made such
extensive discussion or wide-reaching decisions necessary.”

Ibid, pg. 288.

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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Are you a complete *idiot* Power? It seems you are, as
> >you rush to post an opinion without reading the material
> >presented to you which was hashed out to the limit
> >ages ago, and which proved that Streicher’s material
> >was NOT pornographic.
>
> I did read it, BlackMoron, and found it rather inconclusive precisely
> due to the fact that neither side could point to any extensive
> archive of Streicher’s publication.
>
>>>>
Try contacting Stanford, Powder-Puffer.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 12:36:13 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Where else would have been a good place to deport them?
>
> Why was there any need to deport them?
>
> >The Madagascar plan was out after the outbreak of hostilities,
> >and the Nazis, rightly or wrongly, thought of the Jews as a
> >potential fifth column. Emigration was encouraged before the
> >war, but afterwards there was allso a fear that Jewish people
> >would enlist to fight for the allies, and as Isaac Kowalski
> >informs us in his book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”:
>
> >”What the world at large does not know as yet is that 1 1/2
> >million Jewish men and women fought within the Allied armies
> >and in the Partisan Movement against the Axis in World War II.”
> >Page 332. Shengold Publishers, 1978.
>
> This is the same writer who explicitly blamed Katyn on the Nazis?
> Very reliable source, obviously. Not to mention the moral idiocy
> of justifying genocide by the fact that some members of the group
> being annihilated choose to fight back.
>
>>>>
The fighting started way before you suggest they
fought back…….

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Subject: Re: “Der Stuermer”-Hitler’s Favorite Mag?
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> Gene <[email protected]> writes:
>
Kurt, Kurt, Kurt. Was Kaufman gonna do this all by himself? He was so
> far out there that he was mostly ignored. Striecher, on the other hand
> had the MEANS to follow through, which the Nazis did. What was “the
> Jew” Kaufman gonna do, bombard them with bagels?
>
>>>>
Gee, who was Roosevelts closest advisor?

Bernie Baruch

Who in Roosevelt’s cabinet called for what
amounted to the entire
extirpation
of the entire German race?

Morgenthau.

Who was Great Britain’s Minister of War?

Hore Belisha.

How many Jews fought against Germany
during the war?

1.5 million. And they weren’t armed with Bagels…..

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> “Annie Alpert, OFB” <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > > And it appears that Morgenthau was elated with Mr. Kaufman’s
> > book as well.
> > rb
> > > —
> Prove it.
>

>
>>>>
Would you believe he told me?

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Subject: Re: A Secret Lie in Nazi Occupied Europe
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> Cherry writes:
> In <[email protected]> [email protected] writes:
>
> > In the book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”, the
> > author writes the following:
> >
> > “In the Katin forest, not far from the city of Smolensk
> > in White Russia, some five thousand Polish officers
> > were murdered. They were shot in the head, hands
> > tied, and laid in the pits with their hands tied. In 1943
> > the Germans trumped up charges that it was done by the
> > Bolsheviks.” Pg. 15,16.
>
> I hear it was about 14,000 officers and 10,000 civilians
> found in the Kat[iy]n forest.
>
>>>>
I believe you are correct.

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >In the book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”, the
> >author writes the following:
> >
> >”In the Katin forest, not far from the city of Smolensk
> >in White Russia, some five thousand Polish officers
> >were murdered. They were shot in the head, hands
> >tied, and laid in the pits with their hands tied. In 1943
> >the Germans trumped up charges that it was done by the
> >Bolsheviks.” Pg. 15,16.
> >
>
> Who cares about your comments at this point? What is the date of
> publication? Who is the publisher? What is around this paragraph?
> The last I aske only in light of your habit for taking stuff out of
> context.
>
>
>
>>>>
Why do you ask? It’s all there when you open
your eyelids.

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:

>
> So, reviewing the bidding: all survivors are liars; all perpetrators
> were tortured into their confessions; all documents were forged; all
> the trials were show trials; all the historian are charlatans.
>
> Am I getting closer to the truth?
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —

>
>>>>
Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, 4 million
Jews were killed at Auschwitz, 1.5 million Jews at Treblinka,
Not only were they gassed to death with Zyklon, but also
in “gas vans”, shot in the thousands and buried in non-
existent locales, electrified, steamed to death, Mengele
had eyeballs tacked to his office wall….

Am I getting closer to the lies?

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Subject: Re: Allied atrocities–stainless Stele forgery?….Not Quite…
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Lieutenant Colonel Willis N. Everett, Jr., an
American lawyer who had served as defense
counsel for the seventy-four Germans accused
in the Malmedy case, petitioned the United States
Supreme Court, after his return to America,
charging that the Germans had not had a fair trial.

The Supreme Court refused his petition, saying it
lacked jurisdiction (!-rb) over the acts committed by
the United States Army in Germany, a statement which
means that the United States Military Government is
above the law, and the “sovereignty” we claim (ed-rb)
in Germany is that of a lawless despot.

Colonel Everett’s action, nevertheless, forced the Army
to take notice, and Secretary Royall appointed a commission
to investigate the charges. This commission, sent to Germany
in 1948, consisted of Judge Leroy van Roden, of Delaware
County, Pennsylvania, and Justice Gordon Simpson, of the
Texas Supreme Court.

….Judge van Roden, after his return to the United States,
gave a series of lectures and after-dinner speeches in
which he stated that such third-degree methods as the
following were used to obtain the conviction of the
Germans condemned to death……..

Beatings and brutal kickings; knocking out of teeth and
breaking of jaws; mock trials; solitary confinement; torture
with buring splinters; the use of investigators pretending
to be priests; starvation; and promises of acquittal. Speaking
to the Chester Pike Rotary Club on December 14, 1948,
Judge van Roden said, “All but two of the Germans in the
139 cases we investigated had been kicked in the testicles
beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure
with our American investigators.

He told of one German who had had lighted matchsticks
forced under his fingernails by American investigators to
extort a confession, and had appeared at his trial with
his fingers still bandaged from the atrocity.

Another case mentioned by this American Judge in his
speech was that of an eighteen-year-old- boy who,
after a series of beatings agreed to write a statement
dictated to him by the American investigators. After
they finished sixteen pages, the boy was locked up
for the night. During the night the prisoners in the
adjoining cells heard him saying, “I will not utter
another lie,” and when his jailers came in the
morning, he had hung himself from the jail bar.
Nevertheless, the statement he had begun to
write, and had killed himself rather than sign, was
offered in evidence at the trial of other accused.

Source: “The High Cost of Vengeance, Freda Utley,
Henry Regnery Company, Chicago, 1949, pg. 186,187.

Comment: Compare these methods used by other
interrogation methods used by the allies in my posts:
“Let’s Not be Beastly to the Germans”….Seems like
a pattern is emerging, or should I say, a POLICY.

Thought for the day:

“In all the world, there is nothing more upsetting
than the clobbering of a cherished belief.–C. Schulz

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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> >It would be, if you ever had proof that it happened, which you
> >don’t. All you have is highly circumstantial evidence and a
> >mountain of phoney eyewitness testimonies.
>
> And various Jewish friends who lost relatives and friends to the
> Nazis and their minions.

I could relate a few stories on that theme as well, like
a Jewish man who was arrested and convicted for FRAUD
for claiming dozens of faked dead relatives in order to
scam the German government.
>
> >Will you call for the utter condemnation of the
> >United States in perpetuity because they persecuted the
> >Afro-Americans and Native Indians?
>
> No. I don’t condemn any country in perpetuity. I would not
> “utterly” condemn any country at any point in history

What do you think all of this is about? Punishing unto the 3rd
4th and 5th generations, like Yahweh….Only this time the
punishment is based on a fraud.

. I do, with
> various qualifications which hitlerhuggers on this conference
> prefer to ignore, despise certain countries at certain periods in
> history, among them (prominently) Germany during the Third Reich.

Exclusively, I would think.
>
> You still haven’t answered my question: Why is it of any moral
> importance whether the number of Auschwitz victims was one million
> or four million?

Yes, if the figures and alleged murders were based upon fraud.
Millions of Germans were murdered after the war as well. it is unfair
to stigmatize germans or any other nationality in favor of another.
They ALL deserve an equal share of the empathy.

Participants in this conference fall over each
> other conceding that the lower number is more accurate, yet you
> hitlerhuggers

I have never hugged Hitler in my life, but I’ll admit,
Eva Braun looked pretty appealing….

eep on whining and whining that the higher figure
> has appeared in a number of popular, non-specialist sources
> (sometimes as “four million Jews,” neatly reversing the original
> fraudulent intent of the figure). So bloody what?

If you can’t see a bloody fraud right under your nose,
why expect me to explain it to you?

What do you think
> is the important deleterious effect of the public being exposed to
> the larger (admittedly erroneous, in origin probably fraudulent)
> figure?

This is a multi-complex question which I will leave for
others to answer, if they wish. You seem intelligent
enough to figure it out for yourself. Simply, it is an assault
upon the entire German nation, and quite frankly, there
seems to be significant amounts of money involved in
this venture as well.

Do you think anyone would find it easier to forgive the
> Third Reich if the incorrect higher figure appeared nowhere?

What is there to forgive? The same crimes that every other nation
and ethnic group has committed as well? I fail to see the difference
between a gas chamber and dropping the Atomic bomb on civilians.
I am all for a reconciliation between Germans and Jews, but this has
to work two ways. I think that people have a right to express righteous
indignation if they have been deceived about something as grave as
“the Holocaust”.

The
> only figure most people remember about the Holocaust is “six
> million Jews”, which is roughly correct (may be closer to five
> million).

I disagree with those figures. I believe Jewish losses were much
lower than German losses during the war, and after.

Of what importance is it if four million of those deaths
> are attributed erroneously to Auschwitz by those with no interest
> in the details of the Holocaust? Why this obsessive harping?

It is not harping. It is a clarification of fact in an honest way.
It is an examination and inquiry, discarding the canards of
the past, and objectively reassessing the historical events
in perspective.
rb
>
>
>>>>

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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> >> > [email protected] writes:
> >>
> >> > > > > Matthew Monroe.
> >>
> >> > > > And?
> >>
> >> > > There is no “and.” You asked where I got the photographs. He was
> >> > > the source.
> >>
> >> > Yes, but where did he obtain the photographs?
> >>
> >> From his photo album of one of his trips home to Poalnd.
> >>
> >> –YFE
> >>
> >>>>>
> >Well, when did he go there? What year?
>
> Yog, Blackmoron, what’s going to be your question after he answers that
> one? The model of the camera? The brand of the film? The weather report
> that day?
>
>>>>
Listen, Puffer, these people have misrepresented for so
many years, I don’t accept anything they say without
proof.

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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >Are you suggesting that I hate Jews, Mr. Gandhi?
>
> Jew-hatred is a common enough, if not universal, trait among Holocaust
> deniers. As I see it, it’s only a matter of time before you do
> something stupid like give us an approving quote from Martin Luther’s
> “On the Jews.”
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —

>
>>>>
Well, your insults and the insults of your companions
are a step in that direction. However, I don’t lump
people into catagories unless they themselves
define it that way. Why, I even know Jewish
revisionists.

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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Are you suggesting that I hate Jews, Mr. Gandhi?
>
> Well, since you will either misrepresent what I wrote or blatantly lie
> about it, it doesn¹t really matter what I implied. However, the answer was
> no. I merely said that you were a troll.
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your
> life and your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
> If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
>
>>>>
All right, then.

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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On Sun, 13 Oct 1996 03:17:11 -0800, [email protected] (Mark Van Alstine)
> wrote:
>
>
> >Perhaps Herr Schwarzesel should try clicking his ruby shoes together while
> >saying “There’s no place like home!” Who knows, maybe he’ll end up in
> >Hitler’s bunker….
>
> Where he’d doubtless be so tickled he’d pee himself.
>
>>>>
No, I’d aim in your direction.

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] gets suckered:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > > They came from Matthew Monroe. Any more disbelief and I will sue,
> sue I
> > > tell you. I am an attorney and all this sick nazi stuff has to stop.
> > > You are a criminal Mr. McFee, a criminal. A criminal, I tell you, a
> > > criminal.
>
> Except that anybody with an ounce of sense recognized instantly that
> this was a forgery by one of blackmore’s heroe’s Matt Giwer. blackmore wants to
> pretend that he can tell us who and what to believe.
>
> Now we have a demonstration of his analytical ability.
>
> Go back to school, little boy.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Matt Giwer is my hero? Who is yours? Meyer Lansky?

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (I ain’t got no home) writes:
>
> > > > shooting was not confined to Hungarians; it was simply terrible,
> > > > hundreds were shot per day.
>
> > > If you wish to be successful in this technique you need to let something
> > > like this sit for a month and then post it so it is hard to find what you
> > > left out.
>
> > I’m not worried about it. Your Holocaust is
> > on the way out soon anyway.
>
> Suckered again, little boy.
>
> I hope you alternate feet. It would be sad to think of that many
> bulletholes in only one of them.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

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> [email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > >
> >
> > >
> > > Some solution.
> > >
> > > He was a murderer.
> > >
> > >
> > > –YFE
> > >
> > >>>>
> > You are a lawyer.
> > rb
>
> And you’re an idiot.
>
> Your point is?
>
> Sara
>
> —
> “I do not mind lying, but I hate inaccuracy.”
> Samuel Butler
>
>
>>>>
Better stay out of the debate, Sara, before I
repost your famous Bradley Smith comments.

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 12:36:24 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: “Der Stuermer”-Hitler’s Favorite Mag?
Date: 17 Oct 1996 11:36:55 GMT
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> [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) writes:

> >
> > Well, now, in what year did Kaufman write his extermination
> > diatribe against the German people? In case you don’t know,
>
> I certainly do know; I found and typed in Time magazine’s review
> of the book — they panned it, to say the least, in March 1942:
>

> I don’t know if Kaufman brought out a first edition in 1941, as
> you claim; if he did, it attracted no attention. The major release
> of his work was in mid-March, 1942.

Yes, it was first published in 1941. The Germans learned of its
publication at that time, and evidently the book sold so well that
it went into an immediate second edition. I wonder if there was
a third?
>
> > Hmmm, sounds like a “final solution” for the “German
> > Problem”, doesn’t it?
>
> Yes, indeed it does.
>

Two simple questions for you, “rblackmore”:
>
> (1) Did Kaufman ever have the opportunity to put his genocidal plan
> into action?
>
> (2) Did the Nazis ever have the opportunity to put their genocidal
> plan into action?
>
> “Yes” or “no” would suffice, I think.
>
Jamie McCarthy

> [email protected]

>
>>>>
Sure, I will be pleased to answer:

1. It is certainly debateable whether Kaufman ever got
to put his plan into action, as his “cause” was picked up
on by people like Morgenthau and Ehrenburg…I am still
researching the opinions of Barney Baruch, who was
Roosevelt’s closest advisor. I think it is fair to say that
some sort of plan was put into effect after the war which
unofficially followed their “guidelines”.

2. I would say that the Nazis treatment of the Jewish
people was similar to America’s treatment of Native Americans.

Now, I have a question for you:

Do you believe that Streicher ever had the opportuntiy
to put his genocidal plan into action?

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: GERMAN MUST LIVE or perish?Re: “Der Stuermer”-Hitler’s Favorite Mag?
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> “Annie Alpert, OFB” <[email protected]> writes:
> > > [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) writes:
> > >(quoting Streicher in 1942):
> > And only then, after the removal
> > > of these parasites, will there be a long period of understanding
> > > amongst nations, and hence real peace will come to the suffering
> > > world.
>
> To which Mr. RBLACKMORE responded
> > Well, now, in what year did Kaufman write his extermination
> > diatribe against the German people? In case you don’t know,
> > I will lsupply the information. Before Streicher ever wrote the
> > inciting words quoted above, a Jewish author in America,
> > Theodore N. Kaufman, wrote a hateful book entitled “Germany
> > Must Perish” in 1941!
>

Germnay wasn’t very popular in 1941, so
> Kaufmann’s book was published.

Well, the Jews weren’t very popular in Germany in 1941 either.

Annie quotes Rassinier:
> “…The reading of Kaufman’s book over the radio unleashed a mass fury
> against the Jews…”

>
> It appears that the Steicher and the Nazis used this book for propaganda
> purposes and were very happy to have it.
>
> And it appears that Morgenthau was elated with Mr. Kaufman’s
book as well.
rb
> —

From [email protected] Fri Oct 18 12:36:26 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Kevin Filan) writes:

> And anyway, why didn’t the “Holohugger conspiracy” strive to cover
> up Katyn? Why have they admitted, for some time, that Katyn was a Soviet,
> not a German, conspiracy?
>
> Peace
> Kevin Filan
>
>>>>
It was not officially admitted until Gorbachov admitted it.

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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <5424j2[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> :>>
> :>>
> :>> :>What are you implying?
> :>>
> :>> Who says I am implying anything?
>
> :>Is that a denial?
>
> Nope, it’s an affirmation.
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Of your denial?

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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> [Matt Giwer using the forged userid]
> >> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> >> You silly shit. Ediken is a liar, McVay is a liar, Keren is a liar. We
> >> know that.
>
> >> We are all dumbshit little liars.
>
> >Thanks for finally admitting it, silly little liar.
>
> You responded to a forged post from Matt Giwer.
>
> While we’re on the topic, do you think Matt Giwer’s recent spate of
> forgeries is conducive to open debate?
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —
> The Nizkor Project | https://nizkor.org/
>
>>>>
Can’t you see we’re playing with you? Silly people.

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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Caption below a photo of a derailed train in the
> >book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”, by
> >Isaac Kowalski, Shengold Pub. 1978, page 132:
>
> >”One of the 110 trains with German soldiers
> >and heavy weapons blown up by Jewish
> >partisans.”
>
> Justifying genocide because some members of the target group
> dared to fight back? Posting information without caveats from
> a book you’ve already determined to be unreliable?
>
>>>>
Whoever wrote anything about justifying genocide
except you?

“In all this world there is nothing more upsetting
than the clobbering of a cherished belief.–C.M.Schulz

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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>

> # Wonder what happened to those thousands
> # of human beings?
>
> I assume many of them died in Soviet captivity. Just like
> the approximately 3 million Soviets who died in Nazi captivity.

Do you have proof 3 million Soviet prisoners of war died? That
conflicts with Stalin’s statements to Churchill and Truman at Potsdam
that 5 million Soviet troops died during the war, as opposed to 3.5
-4 million Germans.
>
> However, according to “revisionist logic”, you have absolutely
> and completely no evidence whatsoever that even one of the
> German POW’s died. Don’t forget that. Or, do you have the
> autopsy reports that you “revisionist scholars” keep demanding?

I’d LOVE to have them. Can you get them?
>
> BTW, I recall that the commanding German officer (at Stalingrad),
> General Von-Paulus, returned after the war to Germany.

Yes, because he testified against his own countrymen. That
is called treason. He also made “broadcasts” to the German
people from Moscow during the last 2 years of the war, while
William Joyce, who broadcast to britain from Berlin, was hanged.
Ezra Pound also made broadcasts from Italy to the US, and was
treated like a caged animal after the war ended, all for calling
Roosevelt “stinky”

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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:

>
> Why, no, I’m not. If someone presents good evidence, I’m perfectly
> capable of changing my mind. I had some doubt Ilya Ehrenburg had
> written any of the words attributed to him by you and other
> antisemites on this conference.

You think you are so clever don’t you? Well, I am not an anti-semite,
so why don’t you, the champion of “good evidence” post the proof
where I have ever said anything evil about the Jews as a race?

You persuaded me that the matter
> needed research, which I proceeded to do and which proved you
> right. When I noticed that I’d made a mistake in a past post about
> some hearsay from Ada Bimko, I volunteered a correction.

Then why do you question my motives? Perhaps you should really
start reassessing some of the historical canards we have all been
exposed to one way or another.
>
> I’m not talking about myself. I’m talking about someone who bases
> arguments on sources he himself doesn’t regard as trustworthy. As
> you have in at least three instances I’ve noticed.

This isn’t quite the situation. I think that some of what
most authors right is plain old propaganda, it is fact
often mixed with fiction, fantasy, and wishful thinking.
My job, as I see it, is to sort through it all and separate
the wheat from the chaff.
>
>>>>

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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> […]
> > Hoess was a fabricator and a liar just like many of
> > your survivors.
>
> Funny you should mention fabrication.
>
> How about the ‘filtering devices’ used by the British at
> Bergen-Belsen that you fabricated out of whole cloth?

It wasn’t a fabrication. Why do you fabricate that it was a
fabrication? You know the story behind it, I only said that
it seemed reasonable to me, but for a big-time huckster like
you, my reason is your irrationale.
>
> How about the ‘Four Million Jews Were Gassed In Auschwitz”
> quote from the plaque at Auschwitz that you fabricated?
>
> How about the ‘potable water generators’ that the british
> allegedly brought with them to Bergen-Belsen that you
> fabricated?
>
> You seem to be an expert on this subject.

How about the 6 million dead Jews that you fabricated?
Looks like we are both “experts”.
>

>
>>>>

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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
>
> >Quoting further from the “interogation” of Rudolf Hoess:
>
> [Hoess records mistreatment by Allied personnel.]
>
> >(Commandant in Auschwitz-Introduction by Lord Russell of Liverpool, 1959,
> >p. 173, 175.)
>
> >——————————————————-
>
> >So there you have it. So much for the Hoess “confessions” on which the “Holocaust” is
> >built almost entirely on.
>
> Let me get this straight. The Allies forced Hoess to write memoirs
> which detailed the Allies beating confessions out of Hoess? Duh,
> uh….
>
>
>
>>>>
Charles, are you feeling ok?

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

sos snipped
>
> Page 54 of _Trial of Josef Kramer and Forty-Four Others (The Belsen
> Trial)_ edited by Raymond Phillips, M.C., M.A., B.C.L.(Oxon.)
> Barrister-at-Law, London, William Hodge and Company, LTd, 1949.)
>
>
>
>>>>
Well, good for major Birney and his opinions, but
that didn’t prevent an additional 14,000 people
>from dying while the camp was under British
administration. Perhaps Birney should have been
charged with their deaths, just as Kramer was….
rb

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> [email protected] (pgroff) writes:
> On 16 Oct 1996 09:54:33 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> (rblackmore/jbelling quotes deleted)
> >Comment: Well, how about it, Nizkorites? Care
> >to add this one to Dachau, Natzweiler, and Neuengamme?
> >Seems that the Nazis just couldn’t build those gas chambers
> >fast enough during the final weeks of the war–“I’m ready
> >for my close up, Mr. DeMille….”
> Really, you think that the Nazis weren’t murdering people up to and
> even after the end of WWII, think again MPD troll, the Nazis did
> infact murder people as much as two months after the ending of WWII.
> So it doens’t surprise me that preperations were under way even during
> the final days of WWII to destroy more Jews.
>

>
>>>>
You didn’t answer the question.
rb

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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> In Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> rblackmore wrote:
>

snip
>
>
>
> Seeing as how the Nazis were a blatantly anti-semitic regime,
> and showed no compunction about smashing Poland to bits, why
> does this surprise you?
>
> Or perhaps you believe that the Polish Jews should have
> sat back and quietly accepted their fate?
>
> Why not fault the French resistance for the same reasons?
>
> —
> Brian Harmon <[email protected]>

>
>>>>
You are obviously missing the point, but I will get to it
in time. BTW, I have a question for you. You wrote:

What’s your point, Mr. Blackmore? The Nazis invade Poland
> in an act of naked agression, and you fault the many Jews
> that took action against them?
>

Are you
maintaining that the Jews took action against the
Nazis because they invaded Poland?

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> [email protected] (Derek Bell) writes:
> The danger with locking-up Holocaust-deniers is that it would create
> a martyr, something various movements, not neccessarily fascist, have realised.
>
> It’s much better to reveal the holes in the denier’s argument, as well
> as reveal the roots of the denier movement.
>
> I mean, it’s not as if the deniers have any real evidence for their
> thesis – they lose credibility when their “research” is revealed for what it
> is.
>
> Derek
>
>
>
> —
> Derek Bell d[email protected] WWW: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dbell/index.html
> “Donuts – is there _anything_ they can’t do?” – Homer Simpson
>
>>>>
Sounds like you are talking about Holocaust promotors.
rb

From [email protected] Sat Oct 19 16:35:57 PDT 1996
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Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:19:14 GMT
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> [email protected] (Danial Keren) writes:
> On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:24:14 GMT, [email protected] (Daniel Keren)
> wrote:
>
> >[email protected] writes:
> >
> >Poor old “rblackmore” cannot say anything intelligent about the
> >clear and obvious fact that Hoess was *not* told by the Poles
> >and Soviets what to write in his memoirs. In desperation, he
> >whines:
> >
> ># Now, where is the proof that anyone
> ># was gassed at Auschwitz? Are you relying on Hoess?
> >
> >The proof is in the documents, witnesses, and forensic evidence.
> >Hoess is one witness.
>
> No forensic evidence was presented, but I know that.
>
>
>
>
>>>>
Right. So you admit you have no case. Sort of? Kind of?
Maybe? If it weren’t for all those darned “eyewitnesses”.

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 09:44:08 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: 4 million lies
Date: 14 Oct 1996 08:27:48 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) wrote:
>
> >[email protected] writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> >>Comment: One rumor, one gas chamber, FOUR
> >>million……..Of course, she never mentioned the
> >>name of the man who told her these lies….perhaps
> >>no one told her and she simply made it up—-what
> >>simple faith believers in the Holocaust have…..
>
> >Perhaps you need to analyze the verb tense used. Bimko’s interlocutor
> >may have been speculating on how much output the gas chamber could
> >get if allowed to do its work indefinitely. He may also have been
> >overly optimistic. Interesting how you once more pull a “lie” from
> >such information….
>
> Interesting, too, how he extrapolates that supposed lie into a total
> dismissal of legitimate historiography as “simple faith.”
>
> It is no longer a question of whether the pseudonymous rblackmore is a
> Holocaust denier, but why.
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —

>
>>>>
You have got to be kidding. I have exposed this
4 million lie yet you still seek to justify the liars. I
wonder why?

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 09:44:09 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A typical false eyewitness: Filip Muller, the plagiarist
Date: 14 Oct 1996 08:29:14 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> Jean-Francois Beaulieu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Excerp from ‘Did Six Million Really Die?, testimony of Raul Hilberg:
>
> > Christie turned next to the eyewitness account of Filip MŸller […]
>
> Evidently the jury was a lot less impressed by Christie’s effort to
> entrap Hilberg into making an untenable statement than Mr. Beaulieu.
> Ernst Zuendel was, after all, convicted by *two* juries of spreading
> false news.
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —
> The Nizkor Project | https://nizkor.org/
>
>>>>
This comment does not address the argument.

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 09:44:09 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 14 Oct 1996 08:33:29 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > For the record blackmore is caught in another of his lies. There was
> never
> > > any representation at Auschwitz that 4,000,000 Jews died there. Note that
> he
> > > cannot quote the language of such a monument.
>
> > > Another “revisionist” caught with his honesty around his knees.
>
> > I have the photographs Yale.
>
> Then you know that you are lying when you state that the inscription
> states that 4,000,000 “Jews” were “gassed” at Auschwitz.
>
> Post it.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
It is not a lie. The monuments (plural) stated that
4 million human beings perished at Auschwitz. Don’t
call me a liar either. I don’t need to lie because I have
more than enough prove of the duplicity of those who
promoted the “Holocaust”. You are the one who needs
to buttress your accusations with a panoply of lies and
distortions. You are the liar, for you promised
toxicological reports allegedly taken of gassed victims
and Dachau then failed to produce them

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 09:44:10 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
Date: 18 Oct 1996 12:10:46 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] (Ehrlich606) wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
>
> >>What are you implying?
>
> >>rb
>
> >RB – What is being implied here is that I am you and so forth. But this
> >is not true and this is well known. The counter-assertion is only made
> >for trolling purposes, mainly because I think boredom is setting in. BTW,
> >that is a clue for the function here.
>
> There is no way that I would have mistaken poor rblackmore for the
> ever witty and urbane Alan Kennady.
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —
>

>
>>>>
For someone so benighted as I, you really do respond
often.

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 14:57:11 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > Then anything Hoess also had to say is hearsay.
> > >
> > > Actually, it’s not.
> > >
> > > > thank you and please don’t quote from his fake confessions any longer.
> > >
> > > You have yet to establish with even a single piece of evidence, that the
> > > confessions are false. Of course, you can’t, because they are not.
> > >
>
> > You have yet to establish that 6,000,000 Jews died in
> > the Holocaust, or that the absurd statements of many
> > survivors are not blatant lies. Of course you can’t, because
> > they are.
>
> Since you make the claim the onus is upon you. What in particular about the
> eyewitness testimonies and the physicial evidence do you find ‘absurd’,
> that lead you to the erroneous conclusion that more than 6 million jews,
> gypsies, political prisoners, homosexuals, and others were not killed ?
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your
> life and your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
> If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
>
>>>>
I have been posting it slowly but surely, and there will be more.
Top o the mornin to ya!

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 23:37:16 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Behold the lie
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You forgot to add the following:

World War II Magazine, November 1994 Issue cited
4 million killed at Auschwitz.

Discovery Channel aired a documentary entitle: Mengele,
the Man and his Crimes, and a figure 4.5 million Jewish dead
was given for Auschwitz.

19 Stone Steles adorning Auschwitz concentration camp had
the figure of 4,000,000 deaths at Auschwitz chiseled out from the
stone in 1990.

“The Pictorial history of the Jewish People” cites 4 million
Jews killed at Auschwitz. The book ran through more than
11 editions.

New figures of the dead at Auschwitz, taken from archives
in Moscow, indicate 70,000 deaths, 46,000 of them Jews.

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 23:37:17 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Extermination cover up techniques
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] (tom moran) writes:
>
> > As the Holocaust eyewitness story has it, the Germans had a
> >number of ways to cover up the extermination process.
>
> > At Auschwitz a truck driver was ordered to start up his vehicle
> >and rev the motor to drown out the screams of the victims.
>
> > At another, Chelmno, flocks of geese were kept around to gaggle
> >during the exterminations.
>
> > At Majdanek, jazz music was played over an array of loud speakers
> >to cover up the sounds of gun fire.
>
> Thank you for your faultless documentation, typical of deniers.
>
>>>>
Thank you for your undocumented reasponse. Typical of accusers.

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 23:37:18 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Photograph: Rascher’s Letter Concerning the Dachau Gas Chamber
Date: 21 Oct 1996 01:14:24 GMT
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/r/rascher.sigmund/
> images/Rascher1.jpg
>
> https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/r/rascher.sigmund/
> images/Rascher2.jpg
>
> Two pages of letter from Dr. Rascher to Reichsfuehrer Himmler,
> suggesting to use the Dachau gassing facilities to test “combat
> gases” on inmates. Page 2 contains the following: translation
> courtesy of John Morris.
>
> Wie Sie wissen, wird im KL Dachau dieselbe Einricht[ung] wie
> in Linz gebaut. Nachdem die “Invalidentransporte” sowieso in
> bestimmten Kammern enden, frage ich, ob nicht in diesen Kammern
> an der sowieso dazu bestimmten Personen die Wirkung unserer
> verschiedenen Kampfgase erprobt werden kann? Bis jetzt liegen
> nur Tierversuche bezw. Berichte ueber Unfaelle bei Herrstellung
> dieser Gase vor. Wegen dieses Absatzes schicke ich den Brief
> als “Geheimsache.”
>
> [As you know, the very same equipment is in the concentration
> camp at Dachau as was used at Linz [Hartheim]. Whereas the
> “invalid transports” end up in certain chambers [at Linz]
> anyway, I ask whether we cannot test some of our various
> combat gases on specific persons who are involved in the
> action. Up till now there have only been animal tests
> or accounts of accidental deaths in the manufacture of these
> gases. Because of this paragraph, I have sent this letter
> marked “Secret”].
>
>
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>>>>
And of course you have a written response from Himmler concerning
the above. Don’t you? Do you? Need time to think about it?

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A Secret Lie in Nazi Occupied Europe
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> [email protected] (Kevin Filan) writes:
rblackmore writes:
> >It was not officially admitted until Gorbachov admitted it.
>
>
> *sigh* And the “4 million Poles and Russians dead at Auschwitz” may well
> have appeared in a lot of Soviet textbooks after W.W. II.

No, not just in “Soviet textbooks”. The fake figure appeared
EVERYWHERE in the media and at the very gates of Auschwitz
itself.

That doesn’t
> mean it was correct — OR that it was accepted by Western historians.

The figure certainly wasn’t correct-neither is the 1.5 million figure.
It’s a fraud. The 4 million figure was also testified to by a perjuring
witness, Ms. Bimko, at the Belsen trial, so the Soviets certainly
did NOT begin the lie, they propagated it, as many authors and
agencies did throughout the world.
>
> Here in the “Free World” Katyn has been considered a Soviet atrocity for
> quite some time

But they never had the moral courage to speak of it and condemn
it for what it really was a Nuremberg.

— just like the 1.0 – 1.5 million dead at Auschwitz
> figure has been accepted for quite some time.

Oh?
>
>
“Give truth a chance”

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 23:37:20 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: A Secret Lie in Nazi Occupied Europe
Date: 21 Oct 1996 01:34:39 GMT
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> [email protected] (william c anderson) writes:

Big fucking deal. You won’t find a single person posting to this group
> who doesn’t agree with you that the Soviet government was chock full of
> liars from start to finish.

Mr. Anderson, please point out where I have EVER said one
word my belief in a Jewish conspiracy?

The
> Western judges at Nuremberg, in fact, didn’t believe the Soviet story
> about Katyn, and that’s why, contrary to your lies, not one German was
> ever convicted by the IMT for the Katyn massacre.

OK, have it your way. Then please answer why they never condemned
the Soviets for the atrocity publicly–lacking a little “moral” courage,
wouldn’t you think? Stalin’s second atrocity against the Polish people
was to have deliberately withheld his forces from assisting the Polish
Home Army when they rebelled against the German Occupation in 1944.
Tens of thousands of Poles died while Stalin chuckled.

Give it up, Mr. Belling. All you have are cheap, transparent lies, and
> there are plenty of people here to call you on them. Go post your
> tripe on alt.white-power.ranger, whaduyasay?

Not until you admit that your version of the Holocaust is the
biggest fraud on God’s created earth. It really galls you that a
non-racist person like myself doesn’t believe in your fabrications,
doesn’t it? But I am only one person-there are millions of others from
every race, creed, and ethic group who also disbelieve. I may be
one little flea on a big dog’s back, but I’m sure keeping you itchin….
>
“All we are saying, is give truth a chance”

>
>>>>

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: 4 million lies
Date: 21 Oct 1996 01:17:08 GMT
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > You have got to be kidding. I have exposed this
> > 4 million lie yet you still seek to justify the liars. I
> > wonder why?
>
> Since the fallacy of the figure of 4 million was recognized long before any
> of your incarnations reared their ugly heads in this newsgroup, and in fact
> long before this or any other newsgroup even existed, It stands to reason
> that you haven¹t exposed anything. Continually harping on a claim which is
> supported by none of your assertions does little more than to confirm the
> fact that you are a troll.
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your
> life and your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
> If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
>
>>>>
Mr. Gandhi, you really can be comical at times, or is that
conical?

From [email protected] Sun Oct 20 23:37:21 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 21 Oct 1996 03:01:20 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
>
> > > Only a rather stupid person would be fooled by Giwer’s forgeries.
>
> > > You were.
>
> > Think so?
>
> I am being charitable. The alternative is that you deliberately posted
> forgeries.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Like you?

From [email protected] Mon Oct 21 07:02:36 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A typical false eyewitness: Filip Muller, the plagiarist
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <3[email protected]> – [email protected] (tom
> moran)Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:36:41 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>>[email protected] (Alexander Baron) writes:
> :>>
> :>>>> Evidently the jury was a lot less impressed by Christie’s effort to
> :>>>> entrap Hilberg into making an untenable statement than Mr. Beaulieu.
> :>>>> Ernst Zuendel was, after all, convicted by *two* juries of spreading
> :>>>> false news.
> :>>
> :>>>Tell the whole truth, John, he appealed all the way to the Supreme Court
> :>>>and the verdict was overturned by a 4-3 ruling.
> :>>
> :>>Then you tell the whole truth as well. Did the Supreme Court’s decision
> :>>have anything to do with the credibility of Hilberg or any other witness,
> :>>or wasn’t it a judgement on the constitutionality of the law under which
> :>>Zuendel was charged?
> :>
> :> The witnesses, including Hilberg, spoke. In the end, the cause
> :>lost.
>
> The antisemitic Moron is wrong as usual. The validity of Hilberg’s testimony
> was never cast in doubt, despite a bullying and indecent attempt by Zuendel’s
> lawyer, fellow denier Doug Christie. The only witness who was completely
> discredited by the court was Moron’s hero Fred Leuchter, who was exposed for
> the fraud and liar that he is.
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
I have in my possession a letter personally written by Mr.
Mueller, and I will post it soon…..

From [email protected] Mon Oct 21 07:02:37 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Add Yale Edeiken to the Discovery Channel
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Apparently what’s wrong with you is worse than what is wrong
> >with me. Fool, my point was, how many of the 4,000,000 given
> >by the Polish Commission referred to non-Jews specifically? If
> >you break it down, you will see that the OVERWHELMING majority
> >of these faked figures were still claimed to be Jews.
>
> BlackMoron, there’s nothing to break down. As quoted by you, there
> were four million victims. Religion and ethnicity are not mentioned.
> Jews are not mentioned.
>
> So your rule is that you assume every human being to be a Jew unless
> he or she is specified to be a non-Jew?
>
> Your mind degenerates further by the minute. I remember when you
> appeared on this newsgroup–amazing how sane you looked. What a
> difference!
>
>>>>
Look at yourself before you look at me. Again, the
book lists a breakdown of alleged deaths at Auschwitz
by nationality, and the remainder is the deaths of Jews.
How simpler can it possibly get, Mr. Flower? Though
the Jews aren’t mentioned by name, all the other alleged
casualties were, which leaves none other than the Jews, unless
you want to refer to them as Eskimoes. In either event, the
figures were and are a lie, and it is on gross lies such as these
that you base your version of the Holocaust. BTW, I am certainly
as sane as I appeared to be initially-the only difference is I am now
probing into your own integrity. On a couple of occasions, you surprised
me, but lately you have been resorting to the tactics of those who have
no argument other than name-calling-a sure sign of impending defeat.
Note that I do not ask anyone to deny the whole “Holocaust”.
I ask to simply identify and admit the various canards that have been
maintained without so much as a whimper of protest for decades.
You will still have the Holocaust, only it will be a version more in line
with reality rather than fantasy and distortion.

From [email protected] Mon Oct 21 07:02:37 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Allied atrocities–stainless Stele forgery?
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Oh-so you maintain that 137 men shot the Americans at Malmedy?
>
> The 137 is your figure.
>
> >I should think someone should go and arrest the crew who dropped
> >the atomic bomb on hundreds of thousands of civilians. What do
> >you think? Do you condone it?
>
> If you’re referring to the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I
> most certainly do condone them. Any more questions?
>
>>>>
No. You gave the hypocritical answer I expected. Two-faced,
two standards, and a forked tongue. It’s amazing that you are blind
to your own double standard, but there it is in your own words for
the world to read. Why should I condemn you when you condemn
yours.

“It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out,
the uglier everything seems.”—-Frank Zappa.

From [email protected] Mon Oct 21 07:02:38 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 21 Oct 1996 08:26:30 GMT
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:

>
> The work of Piper, yes. The work of Reitlinger, yes. Hilberg,
> yes. The work of charlatans like Piper, Rassinier, Cole, et al?
>
> No.
>
> Piper would be aghast to be included on the same list with
> the likes of Faurisson, Rassinier, and Cole.

Perhaps he’d prefer to be on Schindler’s list? Anyway, it
most certainly was NOT Reitlinger’s work which induced Piper
to alter the fraudulent figure of 4 million dead at Auschwitz, as
Reitlinger’s book was published decades before this lie was
finally admitted by Piper. That leaves us with Faurisson, Rassinier, and
Cole. Rassinier, a concentration camp survivor himself, does
not suit your purpose so you ignore him. Faurisson drew the
world’s attention to the fact that there exists no forensic proof
to show that Jews were gassed by the hundreds of thousands
at Auschwitz or anywhere else, and Cole’s video
merely added the icing to the cake. I think it is quite clear why
Piper revised the phoney death figures, and it is clear that Reitlinger
and Hilberg had little to do with it.
>
> —

From [email protected] Mon Oct 21 07:02:39 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Whoops! (was Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity)
Date: 21 Oct 1996 08:28:33 GMT
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> Brian Harmon wrote:
> [..]
> > The work of Piper, yes. The work of Reitlinger, yes. Hilberg,
> > yes. The work of charlatans like Piper, Rassinier, Cole, et al?
> ^^^^^^
>
> Oops. Mea Typa. meant to type in Faurisson.
>
> Piper’s legit, Faurisson is not.
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
>
> —
> Brian Harmon <[email protected]>>

>>>>
And of course “Pied Piper” Piper is “legit” because he
follows the official “party line” on alleged deaths at Auschwitz.

From [email protected] Mon Oct 21 07:02:40 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

> I think you are getting closer to Mr. Blackmore’s idea of reality.
> Whether this is truth or not is a questionable use of the term. Since
> he’s done nothing to prove on a case by case basis that a particualr
> historian is a charlaton, we are left, once again, with his opinion.
> We all know that there are bad historians, poor researchers, good
> historians, and great historians.
>
>
> Mike Curtis
>
rblackmore writes:
And we all have seen the quality of arguments in
response to my many posts on alt. revisionism. Let me
recapitulate a few:

“You’re an idiot.”-Sara Schwarz
“Schwartzesel”—-Mark Van Alstine
“Nazi boy”———–Danny Keren
“Blackmoron”……Charles Power (I will show that to a few of my
Afro-American friends and get their opinions on your insult)
______________The last line is for you, Mr. Curtis. You have a
list of names which you have called me in the past which you can
refer to.

So, as Mr. Curtis wrote: There are good historians, and there are bad
historians, and there is a third catagory, to which the above belong.

From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:30 PDT 1996
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