Gord McFee writes:
> [email protected]
> In message <Dz664J.H[email protected]> – [email protected] (Daniel Keren)
> writes:
> :>
> :>[email protected] writes:
> :># [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> :>
> :>## Don’t evade the question. You have accepted Kramer’s testimony
> :>## about Belsen. That means you believe he’s a reliable witness.
> :>
> :># I believe he told the truth, and his statements were
> :># proved by other evidence. I still insist he was a
> :># victim of circumstances beyond his contol.
> :>
> :>”rblackmore” agrees that Kramer is a reliable witness. He
> :>must agree, then, that what Kramer said about the murders
> :>in the Natzweiler and Birkenau gas chamebrs is also true.
>
> Hehehe.
>
> I will be watching for the answer to this one.
>
> E-mailed to Dr. Keren and Mr. “Blackmore”.
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
It is posted, but I think you will be disappointed with
what Danny thought was a clever stratagem.
From [email protected] Sun Oct 13 19:20:36 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Belsen: The Suppressed Story
Date: 14 Oct 1996 00:56:53 GMT
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> # The photos only prove people died.
>
> Yeh, “only” that.
>
> # Danny seems to be so fond of these pictures, like a
> # baseball card collection.
>
> I am only documenting what your fuehrer considered as his
> greatest achievement. So why are you upset? Really, you
> nazi-boys should be grateful.
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>>>>
6,000,000 Jews did not die. You should be greatful and happy,
instead of wallowing in your horror collection.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
Date: 14 Oct 1996 01:02:28 GMT
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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On 13 Oct 1996 10:41:12 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
>
> >> You’ve documented the “torture” of Hoess–the Allies made him sit
> >> in a courtroom festooned with U.S. flags. If you have better
> >> references, don’t hesitate to post them. In the meantime, perhaps
> >> you will refrain from pontificating on what “must be clearly
> >> understood”.
>
> >The details of the torture of Hoess come directly
> >from the mouth of the man who captured and
> >tortured him-Bernhard Clarke.
>
> You are still dealing in hearsay. Provide the primary source.
Clark, the man who tortured him. Write to Mr. Butler
and ask him for a copy of the tape of his interview.
>
>>>>
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:03 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: RBLACKMORE LIES AGAIN… Re: Add this one to the “Discovery Channel”
Date: 12 Oct 1996 08:13:56 GMT
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I already answered this ages ago. Why do you keepre-posting the same
> > nonsense?
>
>
> You have yet to answer the following questions without prevarication:
>
(snip)>
This was already answered. Stop wasting people’s
time with your nonsense. Have some consideration
for people once in your life.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:04 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
Date: 14 Oct 1996 03:16:41 GMT
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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On 13 Oct 1996 11:37:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> >Humpty-Holocaust is falling down, and all
> >the king’s horses and all the king’s men,
> >can’t put Humpty together again………..
>
> It is in no danger from your pseudo scholarship, Herr Belling.
>
> When you are long dead and gone the facts of the Holocaust will still be
> there and crackpots like you will still be making the same tired old claims
> of winning a debate.
>
> You are only fooling yourself, Herr Belling. The only place your light
> shines (and dimly at that) is in this conference. Nothing _you_ are likely
> to come up with is going to overcome the overwhelming preponderance of
> evidence.
>
>>>>
what evidence? Seems you are now getting a
bit more serious. Good. Are you ready to debate
issues seriously now, without recourse to name
calling and ridicule?
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Six heads are better than one
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According to the author of the book, “A Secret
Press in Nazi Europe” the following was related:
Malka Epstein, a Jewish girl from Kielce, Poland,
became a legendary partisan. She and her
group of Jewish partisans blew up telegraph and
telephone communications, along with German trains
loaded with trucks, oil, and ammunition.
Epstein, along with Jewish guerillas surprised a
German commander, who was notorious for his cruelty.
They attacked him in his bedroom and decapitated
his head.
The following morning, German soldiers found it
along with the heads of five other Nazi officers
tied to the branches of a tree outside the town
gate.
The all Jewish guerilla band led by its leader,
Epstein the poet, attacked a German garrison
numbering two hundred soldiers. The garrison
was wiped out to the last man.
Source: A Secret Press in Nazi Europe, Isaac
Kowalski, Shengold Pub., 1978, pg. 189.
Comment: These events must have endeared
the Jewish population to the Nazi authorities. Aside
>from sounding like a cross between
an infamous scene in the Godfather, the event seems
to parallel the later activities of the Stern and Irgun
terrorist bands, so active in assassinations of British
soldiers. Apparently, the fields of Europe served as
the training ground for the Jewish Independence fighters.
I would be interested in knowing the German commander’s
name, which the author fails to provide, and the acts
of cruelty he was accused of committing. If this account
is true, it is beginning to resemble the tales in the old
testament….in particular, the story of Deborah, which
gives the account a tinge of religious mythology. The
Book of “Shoah” may yet be included in the Bible…..
rb
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:05 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: A Bomb in the Key of “D”, for DEAD
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In the book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”,
the publishers reproduce a photo of 3 pathetic
appearing German youths, with forlorn expressions
on their faces and German Luftwaffe Uniforms as
their clothing. The caption below the photo reads:
“To the end of the war these 14 year old children
were Hitler’s soldiers, because the mature soldiers
were already dead, wounded, or in captivity.” Pg. 144.
Now, please compare these sentiments with the way
German children were actually treated by the allies
in my posts, “Let’s not be beastly to the Germans”.
Aside from that, compare the following instance also
related in the same book, page 178,179:
Several of Kruschev’s top Partisan Lieutenants
were Jewish men. Among his partisans was also
included a twelve-year-old boy named Motele.
Dyada Misha sent this youthful partisan on an
extraordinary mission to Owrucz, a nearby town
to see what kind of action could ne carried out
there. Motele brought back the news that he had
been engaged as a violinist at the military place of
entertainment. Dyada Misha and the partisan
Popow, a mine expert, gave proper instructions
to the youngster and Motele smuggled some
dynamite in his violin case. He was thus able to
blow up the dance hall, burying all of the German
soldiers. (Along with God knows how many innocent
civilians-rb) Some time later Motele too perished.”
Ibid.pg. 179.
Comment: It seems that Jewish children were exploited
for the needs of the Partisans as well. Very sad.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:06 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: We Three-Bergen Belsen, Brian Harmon, and Me
Date: 14 Oct 1996 04:19:29 GMT
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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck Ferree wrote:
>
> for rbl
>
> How come you don’t bring up the slaughter of thousands, maybe millions
> of Native Americans, by the transplanted Europeans. They did it you
> know.
> But I wonder what that tragedy has to do with the Nazi Holocaust?
>
> Chuck
I have brought this subject up.
rb
> > We are dealing with holocaust history here and not India.
>
>>>>
Nope. These are valid parallels, whether you like it or not.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Who can make the guns shine?-The “Candyman Can”
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In this case, according to the author of Secret Press
in Nazi Europe, the “Candyman” is a Jewish
partisan thief:
“Eliahu Baron, an engineer by profession, was a
wholesale thief, specializing in weapons. He supplied
our people with guns. He also stocked the Polish under-
ground with vast quantities of weapons.”
Page 194.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:32:28 GMT
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> >wrote:
>
> Moran doesn’t know anything about a “slab” but he has seen
> references to a before and after. At one time, not too long a go, a
> sign in from of the Auschwitz grounds that claimed 4,000,000, and a
> sign that is there now as referred to by Simon Wiesenthal, “Responses
> to Revisionist Arguments”, “Question 13”, “For years, the death
> statistics at Auschwitz-Birkenau had been put at well over 3 million.
> recently however a memorial plaque …”.
>
> Perhaps Simon Wiesenthal just didn’t bother to say there was a
> ‘before’ plaque, only the ‘after’.
>
> I believe when Simon Wiesenthal says “well over a 3 million” he
> knows it was 4 million.
>
> Was it a slab? I personally don’t know. But if it was and is,
> then we could probably call it a slab, maybe even a monolith.
>
>>>>
It was actually 19 slabs!
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 14 Oct 1996 08:34:08 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > > > There was never a statement in front of the Auschwitz
> Musuem that
> > > > > 4,000,000 Jew were gassed there.
>
> > > It’s very easy to dispute this: quote the placque.
>
> > I have the photos.
>
> So have I. Now post the inscription which makes no mention of
> 4,000,000 “Jews.”
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
You have the photos? From where?
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 14 Oct 1996 08:50:02 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> >
Too bad you don’t have
> the guts to admit it,
I just did, cousellor….it was an error, not a lie, like the 4 million……
>
> believe you will agree that Jews are people, and that the
> > overwhelming majority of alleged fatalities at Auschwitz were
> > Jewish?
>
> The majority of the people murdered at Auschwitz were Jewish. The
> inscription was written to minimize this fact. It specifically did not refer to Jews.
That is the most pathetic explanation I have ever read. Of course,
the Pictorial History of the Jewish people reprinted this 4 million
figure year after year after year…..
>
>
>
> But there is no reference to either “Jews” or to “gassing.” The fact is
> that it was not meant to the refer to Jews.
Liar.
>
> > This is just another example of how “exterminationists”
> > deny the facts even when they are flaunted directly in
> > their face.
>
> You are the one who made the inaacurate statement.
What was inaccurate? The fact that the monuments claimed
4 million human beings died at Auschwitz? Though it did not mention
gas, please enlighten us counselor–how did the Auschwitz museum
represent these alleged millions of Jewish deaths over the past
45 years? How did they maintain they died, and in what numbers?
After you tell us, refer to the testimony of Ada Bimko, another mendacious
witness, who claimed at the Belsen trial in 1946 that 4 million Jews were
gassed to death in Krema II. Explain that one for us counsellor.
Please do, because I am waiting to post something written by
the Auschwitz State Museum…..Go ahead, make my day……
>
>
> >
> Which was prompted by compaints about the manner in which the
> murder of Jews at Auschwitz was minimized by the authorities.
Minimized?! Four million wasn’t enough? No, it was prompted by
David Cole’s video, among other reasons. They were caught in their
scam, plain and simple. The dream is over.
You can squirm and wiggle all you want, but the obvious
conclusions will be drawn.
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 14 Oct 1996 08:37:05 GMT
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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck Ferree wrote:
>
> How many times has rbl been to Auschwitz, and seen the monuments?
> Nada!
>
> So all this monkey knows is what some other turkey tells him, or what
> he reads in natsie type books. He’s so full of shit, he stinks.
>
>
Fool. The photos were of the Pope praying in front
of the monuments (slabs) and were published around
the world. BTW, a skunk smells his own hole first.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > There was no such placque or series of slabs.
>
> > > This is just another demonstration of how the “revisionists” lie.
>
> > There most certainly was, and I will be glad to send
> > a photocopy to anyone who requests it via e-mail,
> > but they must provide a “snail mail” address, along with
> > postage to cover cost of photcopying and mail.
>
> It is asimple, short inscription. blackmore does not post it. blackmore
> will not post it.
>
> The reason is simple. There is no statement that 4,000,000 “Jews” wer
> “gassed.”
>
> Just another case of a “revisionist” inventing something so he can lie
> about the Holocaust.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
You are the liar.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Belsen: The Suppressed Story
Date: 13 Oct 1996 09:01:12 GMT
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> Testimony of SS-doctor, Obersturmfuherer Fritz Klein (p. 717):
> ————————————————————
> Whilst at Belsen I made several complaints to Kommandant Kramer
> about the conditions there. I was told that I was only a doctor
> and that it was nothing to do with me. Three days before the
> British came, when I took over the camp, I had a talk with
> Kramer about the conditions. I told Kramer that the corpses
> should be removed, and that water should be supplied to
> prisoners as many were dying from thirst. Kramer said he did
> not take orders from me.
>
>
>>>>
Danny’s red herrings. It was obvious that the people
in the camp needed water, that is why Kramer was
arranging for the surrender of the camp to the British.
And he did not have to explain his actions to Klein.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:11 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
Date: 14 Oct 1996 09:25:39 GMT
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) wrote:
>
> >[email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) wrote:
> >
> >>You’ve documented the “torture” of Hoess–the Allies made him sit
> >>in a courtroom festooned with U.S. flags. If you have better
> >>references, don’t hesitate to post them. In the meantime, perhaps
> >>you will refrain from pontificating on what “must be clearly
> >>understood”.
> >
> >Well, since Charles also wrote:
> >
> >”Fine. One should be skeptical of hearsay. OTOH, sometimes hearsay is all
> >you’ve got. That’s true of Soviet history as well as Holocaust history,
> >isn’t it? So does one dismiss hearsay testimony altogether as historically
> >valueless, or does one recognize that the standards of some courts of law
> >are not necessarily those one should apply in evaluating information
> >outside a courtroom?”
> >
> >Then here’s something interesting on Hoess:
> >
> >Judge Edward L. van Roden revealed the methods by which Nazis “admissions” were secured:
> >
>
> This distortionist realizes that this stuff has nothing to do with
> Höss.
>
> It concerns Malmady.
>
>
> Mike Curtis E-mail [email protected]
>
> Over 365 Megs of data: https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?
> Europe: http://www1.de.nizkor.org/~nizkor/
> Nizkor Web: https://nizkor.org/ (Under construction – permanently!)
>
>>>>
That’s Malmedy.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
Date: 14 Oct 1996 00:00:16 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53nfam[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
>
The lie was propagated with either malicious
> :>or irresponsible intent to deceive and inflame the public.
>
> Only if one erects a straw man in order to later knock it down. The precise
> number murdered during the Holocaust is only a matter of incidental academic
> interest. It is the historicity of the Holocaust that is the issue. Do you
> deny that?
I do not deny it-I simply ask for a precise definition
of the Holocaust, which is not incompatible with
all the lies and distortions which are being exposed
in this USENET. It seems that the “Holocaust” is
subject to many interpretations….
rb
>
>
>
> —
>
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:12 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
Date: 14 Oct 1996 00:03:01 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53nfhk[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> :>
> :>
> :>> We aren’t defending these errors. There is bad history and good
> :>> history. then there is excellent history. I could take your pal Butz
> :>> and Mayer and do the same thing. Call their errors lies. Of course
> :>> Butz does lie, Mayer is just sloppy.
> :>
> :>BTW, Mr. Butz is not my pal. I do not know him,
> :>nor have I ever quoted extensively from his work.
> :>By using such expressions, you are using a method
> :>of non-argument known as “setting up a scarecrow”.
>
> You have done the same and worse since you started posting here, Mr.
> “Blackmore”.
If I have, I still have years of practice to go until I catch
up with 50 years of lies and distortions. My postition is that
what you wrote about me is untenable, so I ask for specific
instances and an opportunity to reply to them.
>
rb>
>
> —
>
>
>>>>
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
Date: 14 Oct 1996 09:54:43 GMT
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
>
> # C[4026k]tell us, nazi-boy, why the Poles would have “forced”
> ^^^^^^^^
> # Hoess to write this?
>
> Sorry, people – I was running the “Macaulay” symbolic computation
> program in the background and it dumped this output into my
> article. It is NOT the secret ZOG command to send “Kurt Stele”
> into action again :-).
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>>>>
How interesting…..
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: blackmore’s Mediaval Science
Date: 14 Oct 1996 09:07:13 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wr
> Rather than dealing with the established scientific facts about typhus,
> blackmore decided to try a diversion:
>
> > Again, you distort. From the Army Historical Series,
> > Center of Military History, U.S. Government Printing
> > Office, 1974:
>
When war breaks
> > out, it begins to spread; humans carrying the louse, host
> > of the disease, provide its transportation. The Germans
> > encountered it in their eastern campaigns, and it was
> > known to have come into Germany with forced laborers
> > and transports to concentration camps. Page 53.
>
> The question, of course, is not whether there was typhus but whether it
> can be easily controlled without DDT. The fact, of course, is that it could have
> been controlled with the resources Kramer had on hand. It could.
Wrong again, counselor. You aren’t making much progress
this week.
> The outstanding authority on typhus was Hans Zinsser. Writing in 1934
> (before the development of DDT) Zinsser wrote about WWI:
You have the quote from the U.S. Department of the
Army. Deal with it.
>
> “Among the most remarkable phenomena of the war in the total
> absense of typhus from the western front . . . .Trench fever, closely related to
> typhus was common.” — (“Rats. Lice, and History” page 298)
This is not typhus. It is related to typhus.
“It [typhus] florished as usual in all the Eastern armies, but was kept, by
> extraordinary effective sanitary meausres — bathing and delousing — within
> reasonable bounds among the Austrians and Germans. Though it penetrated into
> the prison camps in Central Europe, it was successfully prevented from spreading
> to the civilian populations.” (ibid, page 298)
Well, your allies should not have bombed Germany into
rubble, then maybe the people would have had water to
bathe with. Also, testimony was given at the Belsen
Trial that many of the inmates were filthy, wallowing in
the filth they had themselves created. Don’t ask me to
repost it. The quote is already posted.
>
, there were no less, and probably
> were more than twenty-five million cases of typhus in the territories controlled by
> the Soviet Republic, with from two and one-half to three million deaths.” (ibid,
> page 299)
Thanks for the confirmation of what I posted, counselor.
>
>
Even in urban situations — such as Italy after
> WW II and New York in 1921 — which are much harder to deal with that a
> confined camp such as the KZ, it is possible to control an epidemic without much
> spread.
The contagion spreads even more rapidly when people who
are infected are exposed to others in close quarters..Also,
why did the US troops allow typhus to run rampant throughout
Berlin for 2 years after the war’s end.
DDT was not necessary. The will to control the typhus was all that was
> required. Kramer did nothing.
Fool.
>
> Guilty as charged.
You are guilty of distorting the truth as usual. Anyone who
would believe you should have their head examined.
Quote of the day:
“You’re an attorney! It’s your duty to lie, conceal and
distort everything, and slander everybody.”—Jean Giraudoux
>
>
>>>>
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:14 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
Date: 14 Oct 1996 09:11:48 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > rblackmore writes:
>
> > The “whys”, “hows”, and “how many” have not been answered to
> > my satisfaction. It also does not help when people like Yale Edeikin
> > claim that Dr. Larson examined deceased inmates from Dachau and
> > claimed that they died from cyanide poisoning.
>
> You were given the conclusions of Larson’s reports.
> I claimed that Larson based his conclusions on toxicological reports.
>
> > However, when I repeatedly requested copies
> > of both the autopsy and toxicological reports, he referred me to comments
> > made by Larson without any forensic reports to prove his statements.
>
> Liar. i told you where you couild find his report. You did not ask for
> “autopsies” you asked for his raw notes
Larson’s statements
> *are* a “forensic report.”
You are the liar. I asked from day one for the reports
as soon as you made the mistake of telling me they
existed. Where are they? I read what Larson said
and I do NOT accept his opinions without the proof
to confirm it.
>
> You might not like it but there is not a court in the western world theat
> would say otherwise or even bother to note your objections for the record.
Liar, again. In a murder case, if such toxicological reports
were taken, they are submitted. Now, where are they?
rb
>
>>>>
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Queen of Mean Lies-Ada Bimko, or is it Bimbo?
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
>
> Out lame Nazi apologist expects people who lived through hell
> to display superhuman feats and computer-like memory.
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>
>>>>
Danny, Danny, how much longer must we endure
your simplicity. It was Bimko herself who presented the dates
as seared into her memory forever…..seared with LIES.
Humpty Holocaust had a great fall, and all the horses,
and all the kings men, and little Danny Keren can’t put it
together again……
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:15 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Rosa Lopez vs Ada Bimko
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> [“rblackmore” is now trying to prove that the Holocaust is a
> hoax, because a witness apparently confused “he” with “she”]
ROTFL….that’s a good on, Danny. She also confused 4 million
with 46,000.
>
> # PLEASE. Bimko spoke fluent German,
>
> She was from Poland. How do you know she spoke fluent German.
>
> # The fact is Bimko is and was a LIAR,
>
> The fact is that you are mad at her, and at the other
> survivors, because they have lived to tell the world
> about what your heroes have done.
On the contrary. I am pleased with her. I LOVE
reading survivor “testimonies”. they will be the straw
that breaks the camel’s back. Can you recommend
any others? Oh, it isn’t necessary. I have SO many
to choose from…….
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>>>>
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Subject: Re: We Three-Bergen Belsen, Brian Harmon, and Me
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> >> Oooohhh! I see what you meant to say. But your *analogies* were not
> >> *appropriate*.
>
> >I think they are.
>
> Good for you.
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —
>
>>>>
But bad for you.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:26:36 GMT
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >After researching the article, it mentions 4 million people…I
> >believe you will agree that Jews are people, and that the
> >overwhelming majority of alleged fatalities at Auschwitz were
> >Jewish?
>
> Oh, stop that idiotic squirming. It’s generally thought that the
> Communists supported the higher figure precisely to obscure the
> fact that the overwhelming majority of victims were Jews, mirroring
> their Babi Yar memorial tactics. Didn’t you know this?
>
> > Also, the figure of 4 million Jews “gassed” to death
> >was stated by Ada Bimko, a Jewish Physician and former
> >inmate of Auschwitz, at the Belsen Trial in 1946.
>
> No, your quote from Bimko was that a German officer told her that
> four million *would be* killed. Don’t you understand the difference
> yet? Pretty careless reader all around, aren’t you?
>
>>>>
You better learn how to read English. She claimed to have
received the figure from the Jewish Sonderkommando who
worked there. As to your reason for the 4 million lie, how can
I squirm when you are thrashing all over the place like a harpooned
whale? I will give you due warning now: Bimbo isn’t the only liar
who supported the 4 million dead Jews claim, along with the
Discovery Channel, WW II magazine, The Auschwitz State Museum,
the Soviet Union’s Prosecutor at Nuremberg, hundreds of newspapers
and magazines all over the world, the Pictorial History of the Jewish People
in more than 11 editions, and many, many, more sources that
I will continue to post until you and your slippery ilk shout uncle.
Admit the fraud. You are only making things worse for your
side of the story.
“If you can’t believe the messengers, how can you believe
the message?
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Rosa Lopez vs Ada Bimko
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:29:10 GMT
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >She is a liar. Why don’t you just admit it? If
> >you don’t think so, then deal with her other lies
> >which she uttered in the same court. If you can’t
> >believe the messengers, how can you believe
> >the message?
>
> I have yet to see any clear lies from the testimony of Ada Bimko.
> It’s not impossible that she lied, but you have yet to demonstrate
> any such thing, nor are nebulous references to “her other lies”
> (unspecified) going to convince anyone here.
>
>>>>
I am not trying to convince anyone there, as most of
you believe in the Holocaust as a matter of faith. What
I posted is reason enough for any rational, unprejudiced person
to see that she is a liar.
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> Keith Morrison <[email protected]> writes:
> Gord McFee wrote:
>
> > :>> So did Mr. Ehrlich606!
> > :>>
> > :>> Then he disappeared. Sad in a way. He had a better style.
> >
> > :>Have no worry. He will probably be back soon.
> >
> > Yes, I expect the timing would be just about right, wouldn’t it? 🙂
>
> New issue of Computing with the AOL free month offer coming in soon
> I take it?
>
> —
> Keith Morrison
> [email protected]
>
> “Eat schist.” – Geologist’s epithet
>
>>>>
Eat my Astrology-Dionne Warwick
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Subject: Jewish Partisans
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In the book, ” A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”,
the author writes:
….”the reader will frequently come across
references to units and divisions bearing
purely Russian names-e.g., Voroshilov
Brigade-which may create the impression
that those divisions consisted only of
Russian fighters, whereas in reality they
were composed wholly or in large part of Jews.
After a beginning was made by the Jews from
the nearby small towns and villages and they
were ready fighting units, they were incorporated
into the general Soviet partisan movement and
adopted pure Soviet names.” Pg.17.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:19 PDT 1996
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Subject: The Kind of Stuff Danny Keren Likes to read
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According to Isaac Kowalski:
“The picture of post war Germany, broken and
in ruins, was not pretty. The wives and daughters
of the herrenvolk sold themselves for a crumb of
bread……The country became one huge brothel
and even the men crawled on their hands and
knees for a handout from the Americans and other
allied troops….the Germans who remained in Poland
after the war had to wear armbands, for a time, like
the Jews had to wear while under the Nazi rule, and
they had to walk in the gutter, not on the sidewalk.”
From: A Secret Press in nazi Europe, pg. 18.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:19 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Queen of Mean Lies-Ada Bimko, or is it Bimbo?
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Don’t talk like a fool, if you can help it.l. Have you read the massive
> >work compiled by Danuta Czech? It details DAILY
> >every alleged major event in the history of Auschwitz, for
> > all the years of its existence.
>
> Talk about non sequiturs! You say that
>
> 1) Danuta Czech does not mention events alleged by Ada Bimko to
> have happened at Auschwitz, and
>
> 2) Danuta Czech mentions “every major event in the history of
> Auschwitz.”
>
> There is no way to go from there to “Ada Bimko lied.” The most one
> can conclude is that the events alleged by Bimko were not considered
> by Czech to by “major.”
>
> I see why you’re squirming: You don’t want to admit any of the
> events chronicled by Czech, yet you want to use her as a proof
> standard to deny events chronicled by Bimko. Sorry, this is
> completely illogical. Surprise.
>
No, I do not
“deny” all the events listed by Czech. However, an accusation
of 4,000 gassed women in one day is a MAJOR event which
requires no special interpretation. The fact is, Bimbo is a LIAR,
and she has been caught, again and again and again. I don’t
give a flying rat’s ass if you don’t believe it. Others who have
a modicum of intelligence as well as a modicom of honesty
will see that this is true. Here is your quote for the day:
“Never reason from what you do not know. If you do, you
will soon believe what is against reason.—Ramsay.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:20 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: A Secret Lie in Nazi Occupied Europe
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In the book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”, the
author writes the following:
“In the Katin forest, not far from the city of Smolensk
in White Russia, some five thousand Polish officers
were murdered. They were shot in the head, hands
tied, and laid in the pits with their hands tied. In 1943
the Germans trumped up charges that it was done by the
Bolsheviks.” Pg. 15,16.
Comment: Now, here is more lies from supporters of
the Holocaust. the author who wrote this book was
also a Jewish partisan who fought against the Germans
in Poland and Russia, and who published his “Secret
Press in Nazi Europe”….and we will be hearing more
about this later. Perhaps he had a reason for white-
washing his Soviet friends……….
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:21 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: I’m Waiting For Some Answers, Mr. Blackmore.
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> [..]
>
> I remember this dialogue clearly, Mr. Blackmore.
>
>
> —
> Brian Harmon <[email protected]>>
I am afraid that you don’t remember the dialogue
clearly, Mr. Harmon. Please go back and refer
to the posts. What I eventually PROVED was that
the British TRUCKED in potable water from their
own military FIELD KITCHENS, and that water
>from the river was pumped in five days later.
My final observation was that Kramer realized
the overwhelming conditions existing in the camp
and then embarked upon the solution he thought
best for the welfare of the inmates: he arranged
for the immediate surrender of the camp to the
British authorities. If you require further details
refer to the posts.
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Bill Harmon’s Question
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> [..]
> > Danny Keren wrote:
>
> > > No, no, nazi-boy. If you say he lied about Auschwitz and
> > > Natzweiler, you cannot claim he told the truth about Belsen.
> [..]
>
> > Better luck next time, Danny. All of your comments
> > have been rebutted in previous posts. You have no other
> > evidence to prove the alleged gassings at natzweiler.
>
> That doesn’t really answer the question.
>
> If Kramer told the truth about Bergen-Belsen (that he
> did all he could), was he then lying about Birkenau?
>
> —
> Brian Harmon <b[email protected]>> ====================================
>
>>>>
As I already indicated, I answered that question
in detail in another post. Please refer to it under
the same header. No, Danny’s obvious little
ploy did not work…………….Briefly, however,
I will reiterate, that what Kramer testified to
concerning Belsen was corroborated by
other convincing evidence, which is why I
believe him. The story of the gassings, however
has not been corroborated by other evidence.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:22 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Belsen: The Suppressed Story
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:33:35 GMT
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > 6,000,000 Jews did not die. You should be greatful and happy,
> > instead of wallowing in your horror collection.
>
> More than 6 million people died, a large number of whom, but not all, were
> indeed Jewish.
> However, Hitler’s campaign also included political prisoners, Gypsies,
> homosexuals, and any
> other person who the Nazi throng decided wasn’t worthy of life.
>
> By the way, the ‘horror collection’ exists BECAUSE of the Holocaust. Snide
> comments such
> as those you choose to make above do not change the FACT that the Holocaust
> happened;
> it only demonstrates that you are interested in nothing except denying FACT
> that Hitler
> orchestrated the murder of more than 6 million innocents.
>
>>>>
Proof?
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:23 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Belsen: The Suppressed Story
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > 6,000,000 Jews did not die. You should be greatful and happy,
> > instead of wallowing in your horror collection.
>
> The typical denier line. What an egoistical jerk.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Look who’s squawking.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Einsatzgruppen: OSR-USSR-#24
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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:30:48 GMT, [email protected] (Kurt Stele) wrote:
>
>
> >The Einsatzgruppen OSR-USSR #24 is a forgery.
> >
> >One cannot claim the hoaxsters don’t try hard enough, though…
>
> Still not the brightest bulb in the pack, are you, Untermensch?
Don’t call me any of your family names Jerry,….I mean, Ken….
>
> You’d better do some more research before you remove any doubt that you are
> a fool. You might wish to avail yourself of the material under
> Einsatzgruppen in the Nizkor archives before you pronounce your prfound
> ignorance to the world.
You have already pronounced yours, and you have had
access to Nizkor files for heaven knows how long….did
you ever stop to think that may be part of your problem?
>
>
>>>>
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
>
> >>
> >> Do you possess or have access to forensic reports on alleged victims
> >> of Soviet atrocities?
>
> >Which do you refer to? BTW, Edeikin claimed such
> >reports exist and he had access to them. I do not
> >say that I have such reports concerning the Soviets.
> >This being the case, what IS your point?
>
> Again, your standards of evidence. You appear to demand a great
> deal when the Holocaust is involved, including documents which
> are unlikely to be easily accessible.
If they ARE unlikely to be easily accessible, and they ARE,
what do you think is the reason for it? Again, Yale E. made a
claim that he had access to toxicological reports which would
prove that victims died from cyanide poisoning at Dachau.
I did not claim that these people were gassed. So, it is up
to him to now put his money where his mouth is. Again, I
did not claim to have any forensic reports, aside from Katyn,
in regard to Soviet atrocities. And, yes, I DO demand a great
deal where the Holocaust is involved, because many GRAVE
accusations have been raised, which should be proven completely.
Due to the fact that I have discovered so many lies and distortions
involved with this particular event, I am VERY distrustful of accusations
promoting it.
rb
>
>>>>
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Subject: Re: Einsatzgruppen Reports – OSR USSR #45
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
>
> > > This is known as “the Ehrlich ploy,” after the first incarnation to
> > > demonstrate its use. Blackmore/Bellinger is simply demonstrating the
> > > strength of habitual behavior.
>
> > 50 years of continuous, unremitting Holocaust
> > propaganda gives you the edge, I think.
>
> An even better edge is having the facts and the evidence on your side.
> McVay has both. You have neither.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Don’t pat yourselves too hard on the back, one
of you might burp.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:26 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
>
>
> > > >The details of the torture of Hoess come directly
> > > >from the mouth of the man who captured and
> > > >tortured him-Bernhard Clarke.
>
> > > You are still dealing in hearsay. Provide the primary source.
>
> > Clark, the man who tortured him. Write to Mr. Butler
> > and ask him for a copy of the tape of his interview.
>
> No, sonny boy, you made the assertion. You continually make
> ridiciulous demands upon others. Now live by the standards you attempt to
> enforce upon others.
>
> You presented hearsay from a secondary source wihtout the slightest
> bit of documentation.
>
> Produce it.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Write to the author and ask for a copy of the taped
interview. BTW, where are the autopsy and toxicological
reports which you promised ages ago?
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Just for the fun of it…
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > True enough. That is why I always try to confirm
> > the sources before I post. if there is any room for
> > doubt, I will come right out and say so at the time
> > of posting,
>
> Then please tell us what research you did on Leroy the Mace before you
> decided to ignore his written statements and rely on a hearsay account of a
> speech he made.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
First tell me why you lied about the British and
their water supply to Belsen, and then tell me why
you are ignoring the lies of Ada Bimko.
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Then someone, possibly myself if I have time, will check to see if you
> >> have quoted accurately without deleting relevant information that
> >> might give a different meaning to what you have posted.
> >>
>
> And I’ve shown you are not to be trusted.
>
> >> Until then, all you have posted are unsubstantiated and unverifiable
> >> allegations.
> >>
>
> I’ve shown you are not to be trusted.
>
> >> —
> >> John Morris <[email protected]>
> >> at University of Alberta
> >> —
> >> The Nizkor Project | https://nizkor.org/
> >>
> >>>>>
> >They are now posted under: “Let’s not be beastly to the
> >Sources”. After you research them and discover that they
> >have been quoted correctly, I hope to hear from you.
>
> Then there is the question concerning the quality of your sources.
>
>
> Mike Curtis E-mail [email protected].
>>>>
ROTFL…..the quality of MY sources? Read Ada Bimko
and then get back to me. After that read Soviet Def Comedy
Jams part 1-6 and then get back to me.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 08:45:28 PDT 1996
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Subject: Born again Porno
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According to the authors of the book, “Anti-Semitism-causes
and effects, one may read on page 257:
“….Streicher’s Der Stuermer regularly devoted issues
to the theme of ritual murder illustrated in gory and
pornographic detail.”
Comment: Now, if THAT isn’t a gross distortion
and a lie, I’ll eat a sour blintze.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Rosa Lopez vs Ada Bimko
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] (Alexander Baron) writes:
>
> >Bimko’s affidavit was made up out of the whole cloth, like most of the
> >others. I have a copy of it – actually she made several – and it is
> >every bit as credible as one sworn by Uri Geller.
>
> Oh. Well, if you say so, Al, I guess that settles it. You’ve shown
> yourself to be such an expert evaluator of testimony in the past.
>
> ROTFL….
>
>>>>
Just deal with what I posted, which is a direct quote from
her own mendacious mouth. Perhaps Mr. Baron will post
her other lies….I for one would LOVE to see them and
add them to my collection, as Danny adds atrocity fotos
to augment his little hobby…….
rb
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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On 13 Oct 1996 10:14:57 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
>
> > your assertion is as full of shit as you are.
>
> >No. It is you who are full of the brown substance, and
> >you seem to be regurgitating it through your mouth. The
> >proof that Hoess was tortured comes from the man who
> >captured and tortured him, Mr. Clarke. He said it. He
>
> Then provide us with Clarke’s primary documentation, Herr Belling. You
> cannot because there is none. This makes it hearsay. It is irrelevant. You
> know that.
>
> >family was living in the british occupation zone. Hoess was
> >tortured. Live with it. Or deny it. Either way, you come
> >out the worse.
>
> You have provided no evidence for it.
>
> Care to tell us about the picture again?
>
> Hoss statements stand. You know it and that is why you so desperatly want to
> explkain them away. However, Hoss stood by them right to the end. There was
> no one torturing him to keep stating the same thing over and over.
>
> Sorry. It is _you_ who come out the worse.
>
>>>>Then anything Hoess also had to say is hearsay. thank
you and please don’t quote from his fake confessions any longer.
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Subject: Re: Einsatzgruppen Reports – OSR USSR #45
Date: 14 Oct 1996 00:58:36 GMT
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> [email protected] (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (ibokor) wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
>
> >: examples. Do not refer to posts that will take me a while to
> >: research and for which you have been advised in advance.
>
> >That is interesting, coming, as it does, from soemone/somthing
> >who/which responded to repeated requests for explicit examples
> >by instructing the questioners to look at his/her/itsarticles
> >in alt.revisionism and/or Dejanews. I believe the English
> >words and expressions which describe this poster would
> >therefore include: cant, hypocrite, disingenuous,…..
>
> This is known as “the Ehrlich ploy,” after the first incarnation to
> demonstrate its use. Blackmore/Bellinger is simply demonstrating the
> strength of habitual behavior.
>
> —
> Nizkor Canada | https://nizkor.org
> ———————–| Remember John Hron
> |————————————–
> https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hron-john/
>
>>>>
50 years of continuous, unremitting Holocaust
propaganda gives you the edge, I think.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 12:23:29 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: The Trains Kept on Rollin’
Date: 14 Oct 1996 03:53:47 GMT
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“In the four months of the year 1944, the Istrbitel (Destroyer)
Unit, has derailed 44 enemy military trains. Eleven of them
were convoy troops and the rest machinery and other
military material.”
Source: A Secret Press in Nazi Europe, pg. 193, by
Isaac Kowalski.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Einsatzgruppen Reports – OSR USSR #45
Date: 14 Oct 1996 09:18:21 GMT
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Your Simpson reprt was a whitewash. What Judge van Roden said was
> >the truth.
>
> Prove it with something that backs up your suspect South American
> publication.
>
>
>>>>
The walls are a tumblin down….tumblin down…..I
will back up the reports when you prove that 6 million Jews
died in the Holocaust.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 14:08:23 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Miracle on 54th street-In and Out of the Gas Chamber!
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Here is the “eyewitness testimony” of another
“survivor”. Her name is Sophia Litwinska, and
the following is taken from her testimony at the
Belsen Trial:
Q: When you reached the crematorium, what
happened there?
A: The whole truck was tipped over in the way
they do it sometimes with potatoes or coal loads,
and we were led into a room which gave me the
impression of a shower- bath. There were towels
hanging around, and sprays, and even mirrors.
I cannot say how many were in the room altogether,
because I was so terrified, nor do I know if the doors
were closed. People were in tears; people were
shouting at each other, people were hitting each
other. There were healthy people, strong people,
weak people and sick people, and suddenly I saw
fumes coming in through a very small window
at the top. I had to cough very violently, tears
were streaming from my eyes, and I had a sort
of feeling in my throat as if I would be asphyxiated.
I could not even look at the others because each
of us concentrated on what happened to herself.
Q: What was the next thing you remember?
A: At this moment I heard my name called. (!-rb)
I had not the strength to answer it, but I raised my
arm. Then I felt someone take me and throw me
out from that room. Hoessler put a blanket around
me and took me on a motor cycle to the hospital,
where I stayed for six weeks. As a result of the gas,
I stll had quite frequently headaches and heart
trouble, and whenever I went into the fresh air
my eyes were filled with tears. I was subsequently
taken to the political department and apparently I
had been taken out of the gas chamber because I
had come from a prison in Lublin, which seemed
to make a difference, and, apart from that, my
husband was a Polish officer.
On cross-examination:
Q: How long were you in the gas chamber in all?
A: Only for a short period. A minute or two perhaps.
Q: When you were taken out were you suffering severely
>from the effects of the gas?
A: Yes, I felt quite giddy in my head and a sudden
blackness descended on my eyes and a heavy load
on my chest.
Q: When you got outside, was the man who took you
out wearing a gas mask?
A: I do not know. I was in such a state that I myself
did not know what had happened to me.
Source: The Belsen Trial, pg. 79, 80, 81.
Comment: Now, I would be most interested to
hear how the faithful explain away this little
episode of another mendacious witness.
The whole story reeks with impossibilites
and complete fabrications. According to
this “eyewitness”, the people in the gas chamber
were about ready to tear each other apart, so that
if left to their own devices, no gas was necessary to
kill them. Aside from all this, she states tha she “saw fumes
coming in through a small window at the top.” How
interesting….Further, her statement about helathy and strong
individuals being placed in the chamber is contrary to
everything written about the purpose of the selections.
Her lapse of memory was merely a self-serving device to
avoid being pressed for detailed information. Also, her statement
that she had been in the gas chamber 1 to 2 minutes is nothing
more than a complete fabrication. No one could be exposed to
cyanide gas for that length of time and come out alive.
Conveniently she also failed to notice whether her rescuer
was wearing a gas mask or not, and the very idea that a guard
could simply walk into the gas chamber and escort her out
without a full riot on his hands is absurd. Also, her testimony
that she heard her name being called in all that pandemonium
is laughable, considering how much screaming would have been
going on s the people realized they were going to be “gassed”.
The witness further redused to commit herself to an actual
number, but it would have been significant, as she had testified
that “health, strong, weak, and sick” people were all herded in
to the “gas chamber”. Anyone who has read even a minute
amount of material on the history of Auschwitz would find her
statement that she recouperated in the hospital for six weeks
after the alleged gassing to be ridiculous. Finally, I cross referenced
Hoessler’s testimony regarding this incident and of course, he
denied it. Now, I am truly curious to see if anyone in Nizkorland
will make an attempt to defend this preposterous story and obvious
LIE.
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: BUCHENWALD: LEGEND AND REALITY
Date: 12 Oct 1996 07:13:32 GMT
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> https://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?camps/buchenwald/images
>
> buchenwald01.jpg, buchenwald03.jpg:
> Emaciated corpses of the inmates.
>
> buchenwald02.jpg:
> Artifacts made from corpses of inmates.
>
> shrunken.jpg:
> The shrunken head of an inmate.
>
> buchenwald04.jpg:
> German civilians living near the camp, after the American troops
> have taken them to Buchenwald to witness the horrors. Notice how
> well-dressed and well-fed they are.
>
>
> -Danny Keren.
>
>
>>>>
Danny and his photo collection again. Shrunken heads,
artifacts made from diseased corpses, emaciated inmates
suffering from disease……I feel sorry for you Danny. Oh,
I almost forgot the civilians-shall we discuss what happened
to many of them when the allies released hordes of criminals
>from the camps to rape, plunder, and murder? Danny might
enjoy seeing their heads shrunken, or artifacts made from their
bones, or emaciated by disease–Danny are you sure you don’t
have the situations reversed?
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 14:08:25 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Dr. Hans W. Muench Testifies About Auschwitz
Date: 12 Oct 1996 07:14:51 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > The request was to post his comments in the Simpson Report or
> > > testimony under oath. You have not even quoted him directly. You gave a
> > > hearsay account of a speech before a Rotary Club.
>
> > >>His speech was quoted verbatim. Live with it.>>
>
> In other words, hearsay. Pure and simple.
>
> There is an official report of Van Roden’s investigations. He also gave
> testimony under oath. They both contradict what your secondary source claims
> he said. Live with that.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
COVER-UP.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Queen of Mean Lies-Ada Bimko, or is it Bimbo?
Date: 13 Oct 1996 23:38:08 GMT
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Comments: Note that I checked the dates this
> >”witness” mentions, particularly July 27, 1944, and
> >December 1st and 15th 1943, and compared them with
> >the events minutely detailed in the Auschwitz Chronicle,
> >meticulously compiled by Danuta Czech. None of the
> >events which this witness testified to on these dates
> >are confirmed in the Chronicle. Ergo-more blatant
> >lies.
>
> Blatant non sequitur.
>
>>>>
Don’t talk like a fool, if you can help it.l. Have you read the massive
work compiled by Danuta Czech? It details DAILY
every alleged major event in the history of Auschwitz, for
all the years of its existence.
Look up the name in Nizkor’s files and read what they have
post about the author and the Chronicle. You really ought to
do a little research before sticking your nose into an
issue you apparently know little about. As I said, the
woman was caught in another bare-faced LIE.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:05:40 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53q76c[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>
> :>
> :>Look up. Look WAAAAY up. Note that this book
> :>went through more than 11 printings and still persisted
> :>withthe same lie. There is no excuse for this sort of
> :>behavior. Notice that a documentary on the discovery
> :>channle referred to 4.5 million Jewish dead at Auschwitz.
> :>A popular magazine in 1994 referred to 4 million Jewish dead
> :>at Auschwitz. Where are they all getting this fake figure from?
> :>It is untrue that the Soviets began the lie. It began with the inmates
> :>themselves. Read my latest post: Where has the 4,000,000 gone?
>
> The assertion that the world was flat, and the center of the universe
> persisted for 2000 years and that didn’t make it right. Your post that an
> inmate began the story of the 4,000,000 is wrong, although several inmates may
> have thought it. The figure was wrong, that’s all. What’s the big deal?
>
> Express yourself, Mr. “Blackmore”. The fact is that over a million people
> perished in Auschwitz. Do you deny that?
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Big Deal? And, no, I do not believe that over
a million people died at Auschwitz and I will post why
eventually.
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 18:09:56 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:02:53 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>
.
>
> The figure is available in many places, virtually any study of the Holocaust.
> Try Fleming’s _Hitler and the Final Solution_, Appendix.
>
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
No. Fleming is probably one of the most biased
sources one could refer to-perhaps that is why you
selected him?
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: inconsistent idiot
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
>
> So what is your point in quoting a book which you’ve just established
> to be untrustworthy?
>
On the contrary, I don’t believe that the whole book is
untrustworthy. I will clarify all……in time.:)
The simple faith of those who believe…..as my post
mentioned, I posed a question….perhaps he had a reason
for whitewashing his Soviet friends? And it is all leading
somewhere, I can assure you….Now, I have a question for
you? Do you regard Mr. Kawalski as an untrustworthy
witness?
rb
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 20:03:40 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:54:14 GMT
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >> Give us a break. Deal with the lies you defend.
>
> We aren’t defending these errors. There is bad history and good
> history. then there is excellent history. I could take your pal Butz
> and Mayer and do the same thing. Call their errors lies. Of course
> Butz does lie, Mayer is just sloppy.
And why do you say this? Because their research disproves
your own preconcived notions, or because you believe the
evidence convinces you otherwise?
>
> >The fact is that you can still find this book in any
> >major library and this publication went through many more editions
> >than 11, always repeating the same old falsehood,
> >along with your Auschwitz Museum Shrine,
>
> What shrine is this. It sems that since the fall of the Soviets
> certain things have been corrected.
It seems that with the rise of revisionism certain things
have been corrected as well.
We have several history books on
> the Holocaust as far back as 1953 arguing against such claims. But you
> know this and you also know that there are poorly researched books.
No, I do not know that they are poorly researched,
and if they are, perhaps their lack of serious research
was deliberate. In any event, a publication like the
Pictorial History should have known better.
> The effort here is to expalin the facts of these errors and what was
> behind them.
And I am here to try and explain the facts and
errors involved in the Holocaust, and what motivations
were behind them.
> > and hundreds
> >of other publications and “documentaries”.
>
> List the top 100.
I am working on it.
>
> > Shall I continue
> >to quote other sources? Yes, I shall, so everyone may
> >see the fraud you promote and defend,
>
> Again,. I do not see John or anyone here defending errors of fact or
> in historical research. The only one I see doing this is YOU.
But these issues need to be addressed as it reflects
upon the totality. This is nothing personal against
you or John. What I am concerned about is the
obvious misrepresentations involved in the promulgation
of the “Holocaust” as the public has read of it for decades.
Why did the promoters feel they had to lie or exaggerate?
This has only rebounded back upon them.
>
> > rather than
> >admitting these people and agencies were in negligent
> >error. Of course, once you admit that, then everyone will
> >ask, “Well, if they misrepresented this, what ELSE have they
> >misrepresented?”
>
> Who is the they in this case?
Those who have told lies, exaggerated, and irresponsibly
promoted false events in history. (I feel that was meant
to be a “loaded” question.) People should rejoice if they
find that the picture was not as grim as it was painted.
Tell us the history behind this number
> and what it really means.
>
> > If you can’t believe the messengers, how
> >can you believe the message?
> >
>
> We do the historical research that you do not do.
I have most likely read the historical sources you refer
to. they are probably in my collection. Aside from that-
it should be obvious what point I am making here–that
the number of Jewish dead was negligently bandied
about for years disregardful of the truth–and it continues
to this day. The phoney 4 million dead at Auschwitz figure
has appeared in dozens of documentaries, magazines,
HUNDREDS of newspaper articles and books ALL over
the world from people and agencies which should have
known better. This being the case-it certainly was and
is propaganda of the worse kind. It is unfair to the German
people, for one, to have been stigmatized with this
irresponsible slander. The common person does not usually
read the works of the scholars you mention-what they read and
watch, and listen to are newspapers, magazines, movies, and radio–and it
is was to this massive audience that this pernicious, slanderous
lie was directed. The lie was propagated with either malicious
or irresponsible intent to deceive and inflame the public.
rb
>
>
>
>>>>
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Subject: Gefilte Fish and Red Herrings,a la Keren
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
>
> > More of Dan’s equivocating. Typhus was ALWAYS a
> > problem in the camps, and the administration was always
> > having to contend with it. They did not have the benefit
> > of DDT as we did here.
>
> Typhus was a problem because the nazis who ran the camps allowed it
> to be a problem. Moreover, the problem of controlling typhus was solved long
> before the invention of DDT. The last typhus outbreak in the United States was in
> New York City 1921. That is far more of a public health problem than an outbreak
> in a confined camp. It was controlled in a matter of weeks. There was no problem
> with typhus in POW camps in Germany and Austria in WWI even at the end of the
> war when the infrastructure of the central powers was as poor as it was in 1945.
> This was also before the development of DDT.
>
> According to the CDC the number of deaths due to typhus in the United
> States in the 20th century is: 541.
>
> How many died of typhus in the KZ?
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Again, you distort. From the Army Historical Series,
Center of Military History, U.S. Government Printing
Office, 1974:
“The DP’s, moreover, could not be ignored even
briefly or in the heat of battle, for they might harbor
among them a danger to human life, both military
and civilian, that was potentially GREATER (rb)
than the war itself-the virus-like micro-organism
Rickettsia. A benign parasite of the body louse,
Rickettsia, when it passes from the feces of a louse
into a human body through a bite or opening in the
skin, causes typhus, the most feared epidemic dis-
ease in Europe since the bubonic plague. Napoleon’s
army in Russia reportedlly suffered more losses from
Typhus than from combat. During and after WWI,
an estimated three million persons died from the
disease in the Balkans and the Ukraine. In WW II,
a thousand cases had been registered in Naples by
early 1944. Always serious and frequently fatal, typhus
is endemic in parts of eastern Europe, When war breaks
out, it begins to spread; humans carrying the louse, host
of the disease, provide its transportation. The Germans
encountered it in their eastern campaigns, and it was
known to have come into Germany with forced laborers
and transports to concentration camps. Page 53.
Additional sources:
Hqs, U.S. First Army, Office of Civil Affairs, sub: Control
of Typhus Fever, 12 May 44, in SHAEF G-5, 17.16.
Now, what was that you were saying about Kramer?
rb
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 20:03:41 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
Date: 12 Oct 1996 07:48:13 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> > > >> >It must be clearly understood that the entire Holocaust-gassing myths
>
> > > You’ve documented the “torture” of Hoess–the Allies made him sit
> > > in a courtroom festooned with U.S. flags. If you have better
> > > references, don’t hesitate to post them. In the meantime, perhaps
> > > you will refrain from pontificating on what “must be clearly
> > > understood”.
>
> > They have been posted many times over. Learn to
> > browse a bit.
>
> Yes. Your “evidence” was a “reasonable suspicion.” You have
> poste nothing else concerning his treatment at the time he confessed or when
> he wrote his memoirs.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Wrong again. Browse, Counselor, browse…….
From [email protected] Mon Oct 14 22:46:51 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:04:27 GMT
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >You better learn how to read English. She claimed to have
> >received the figure from the Jewish Sonderkommando who
> >worked there. As to your reason for the 4 million lie, how can
> >I squirm when you are thrashing all over the place like a harpooned
> >whale?
>
> Just to satisfy you with a little squirming: Looking back at the
> original message involved, I can see that my cavils about the
> verb tense were probably incorrect. OTOH, Bimko’s passing on her
> memory of someone else’s assertions does not make her a liar.
> Her memory could be imperfect (the conditions were not such that
> one could expect it to be faultless) or the person who spoke to
> her may have lied or been mistaken.
>
>>>>
She was quite explicit as to the figure. Also, her testimony is
strewn with other lies. She is and was a liar, and so was the
Sonderkommando who gave her the false information.
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:06 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Bodhisattva) writes:
> Excellent work. Good thing someone has the patience to sort through
> Blackmore’s shite.
>
>
>>>>
Perhaps you should have waited before you rushed to
congratulate Mr. Power. There was and is no inconsistency.
All is planned ahead of time………There is, however, a certain
inconsistency between your comments about having the “patience
to sort through” my “shite”, in that you have obviously accessed
and read through it quite often.
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:06 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:29:58 GMT
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <3[email protected]>, [email protected] (tom moran)
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >>> But the lie of 4 million Jewish “gassed” at Auschwitz
> >>> was officially chiseled out of the massive slabs in front
> >>> of the Auschwitz Museum in 1994! Let’s talk about that
> >>> one for a while.
>
> [snip]
>
> >> There was never a statement in front of the Auschwitz Musuem that
> >> 4,000,000 Jew were gassed there.
>
> [snip]
>
> > You mean the sign that the Simon Wiesenthal page refers to never was?
>
> Of course you can point to the page where there is such a reference, since
> I could find no page which says there was a massive slab on front of the
> museum which claimed that 4 million Jews were gassed.
>
>>>>
You are showing yourself more the fool every
day. The 19 stone tablets referred to 4 million
Jews who allegedly died there. They need not
have mentioned gassing. It was a lie any way
you choose to interpret it. BTW, you may now
add these 19 stone slabs to the discovery channel,
WWII magazine, and the Pictorial History of the
Jewish People–and more is on the way. When
you walk in the snow, you cannot hide your tracks…..
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:07 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 08:24:43 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
>
> I never promised them. I told where they could be found in the public
> record and told you to do your own research. You were too lazy or too afraid to
> bother.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
The day I fear your “evidence” is the day I will stop posting.
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:08 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 08:23:03 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > You have the photos? From where?
>
> Matthew Monroe.
>
>>>>
And?
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:08 PDT 1996
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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck Ferree wrote:
>
> rbl claims to know all about the numbers of deaths at Auschwitz taken
> from the monuments to the dead. None of this matters nor does it prove
> anything. A picture of the Pope praying over some marble monuments
> doesn’t prove any numbers were right or wrong. Cut the subterfuge.
>
>
> > >
> > Fool. The photos were of the Pope praying in front
> > of the monuments (slabs) and were published around
> > the world.
>
> And therefore what? What’s your point? The Pope isn’t involved in
> discussing changes in the numbers. Jesus, man get with the program.
> Chuck
>
>
> BTW, a skunk smells his own hole first.
>
> Well, by God, you’d know about that kind of stuff, since you sure as
> hell don’t know much about Holocaust historical facts.
> Chuck
>
>>>>
Apparently I know more about the facts than you do, Chuck.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:09 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 08:59:52 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
Of course,
> > the Pictorial History of the Jewish people reprinted this 4 million
> > figure year after year after year…..
>
> In fact, that is what Poles were taught.
That’s the biggest crock of crap I have ever read. Now, what’s
your excuse for the rest of the world? BTW, thanks for sharing that
little tidbit, for here is something of interest for you, which I will post
separately to expose your forked tongue. I was hoping you would
nibble at the bait, and indeed you have. From Poland, I will quote here
>from the book “German Crimes in Poland” , published by the Central
Commission for Investigation of German Crimes in Poland, Warsaw
1946, Vol 1, which details all the lies you and your mendacious
“friend” deny:
Here is a direct quote from the Polish Commission:
“As is well known, the Soviet Legal and Medicinal
Commission, which arrived at Auschwitz immediately
after the flight of the Germans, has stated that the
number of the murdered EXCEEDED 4,000,000. (Caps mine)
These calculations are in conformity with the data obtained
during the inquiry from a competent (!-rb) witness, a railway
employee from Oswiecim station. This man, Fr. Stanek,
stated that in the three years 1942-1944, 3,850,000
prisoners were brought to Oswiecim by rail. Five millions
would be nearer the mark counting those brought by car.”
Page 90.
end of quote.
Well, Mr. Counselor, you can now add your name to the list
of the other liars
You simply do not know what you are talking about. I checked with a
> noted Pole over the weekend. Both he and his translator confirmed that Poles
> were never taught that Jews died at Auschwitz. All reference was to “Polish
> citizens.”
>
-how did the Auschwitz museum
> > represent these alleged millions of Jewish deaths over the past
> > 45 years?
>
> The ignored them.
>
>
> > Please do, because I am waiting to post something written by
> > the Auschwitz State Museum…..Go ahead, make my day……
>
> Oh dear, another threat to post something in the near future.
>
>
> > Minimized?! Four million wasn’t enough?
>
> No reference to Jews. Live with it. The Poles were taught, correctly,
> that approximately 25% of the population of Poland was killed by your nazi heroes.
> They were never taught that 90% of Polish Jews were murdered; the word “Jew”
> was never mentioned in their histories or in their classrooms.
>
Well, Yale, you stepped in it big time this time. In fact,
not only did you step in it, you’re the one who dumped it.
rb
>
>
>
>>>>
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Add Yale Edeiken to the Discovery Channel
Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:10:25 GMT
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In a reply to “Another Peculiarity…etc”, Mr. Edeikin,
in a patheitc attempt to gloss over the lie that has
been disseminated for decades from Poland throughout
the whole world that 4 million Jews were murdered at Auschwitz,
implied that Polish people were never “taught” that 4 million
Jews had been murdered by the Nazis. What follows is the
English translation of a book originally published in
Poland. First, however, a recap of some of the banter
between Yale and I, so people will see once and for
all how he operates:
rblackmore:
> > the Pictorial History of the Jewish people reprinted this 4 million
> > figure year after year after year…..
Yale responds by sauing that Poles were simply taught
that 4 million human beings were killed, not Jews. In fact,
here is what he said:
>
> In fact, that is what Poles were taught.
rblackmore:
That’s the biggest crock of crap I have ever read. Now, what’s
your excuse for the rest of the world? BTW, thanks for sharing that
little tidbit, for here is something of interest for you, which I will post
separately to expose your forked tongue. I was hoping you would
nibble at the bait, and indeed you have. From Poland, I will quote here
>from the book “German Crimes in Poland” , published by the Central
Commission for Investigation of German Crimes in Poland, Warsaw
1946, Vol 1, which details all the lies you and your mendacious
“friend” deny:
Here is a direct quote from the Polish Commission:
“As is well known, the Soviet Legal and Medicinal
Commission, which arrived at Auschwitz immediately
after the flight of the Germans, has stated that the
number of the murdered EXCEEDED 4,000,000. (Caps mine)
These calculations are in conformity with the data obtained
during the inquiry from a competent (!-rb) witness, a railway
employee from Oswiecim station. This man, Fr. Stanek,
stated that in the three years 1942-1944, 3,850,000
prisoners were brought to Oswiecim by rail. Five millions
would be nearer the mark counting those brought by car.”
Page 90.
end of quote.
Well, Mr. Counselor, you can now add your name to the list
of the other liars
You simply do not know what you are talking about. I checked with a
> noted Pole over the weekend. Both he and his translator confirmed that Poles
> were never taught that Jews died at Auschwitz. All reference was to “Polish
> citizens.”
>
-how did the Auschwitz museum
> > represent these alleged millions of Jewish deaths over the past
> > 45 years?
>
> The ignored them.
>
>
> > Please do, because I am waiting to post something written by
> > the Auschwitz State Museum…..Go ahead, make my day……
>
> Oh dear, another threat to post something in the near future.
>
> Well, the “threat” as you called it, is posted faster than
you expected. Four million wasn’t enough?
>
> No reference to Jews. Live with it. The Poles were taught, correctly,
> that approximately 25% of the population of Poland was killed by your nazi heroes.
> They were never taught that 90% of Polish Jews were murdered; the word “Jew”
> was never mentioned in their histories or in their classrooms.
>
Well, Yale, you stepped in it big time this time. In fact,
not only did you step in it, you’re the one who dumped it.
rb
>
>
>
>>>>
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:51:33 GMT
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
>
> I see that putting the photos on the web, and making people aware
> of their existence, is really infuriating Nazi liars like yourself.
> Small wonder. It’s harder to convince people that your Nazi heroes
> were such great guys, after they have seen these photos, right?
>
> It required a considerable effort to locate and scan all these
> photos, but it was worthwhile.
Did you get off?
>
> Dan on the run….Dan on the run….and
the photographs, and epitaphs, have all
been overdone, and now Dan’s on the run,
Dan’s on the run……(Sung to Band on the run)
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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
>
> >
>
> There may have been mental games played, but I’ve yet to see any clear
> evidence of torture specific to any trial.
>
>
>
>>>>
Playing those mind games……Here’s a sample of
those mind games:
“Often Adam (A Jewish Interrogator-rb) didn’t go to
interrogations but sat in his office, drinking, listening
to distant cries of “Nein!” He assumed that one of
his boys was slamming a door on a German’s arm
while driving pins up the German’s nails, but he didn’t
want to go see it. Adam had once been tortured himself,
spinning on a spit, till he told the Gestapo, “Yes, I’m a Jew!”
and going to Auschwitz gratefully, and in Gleiwitz his bones
were aching again from the German’s own screams. He
sat in his office wishing, sometimes, that the boys would do
something monstrous, so a German would just confess and the
screams would stop.”
Source: An Eye for an Eye, John Sack, Basic Books, 1993, pg.68.
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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> : Until you decide to
> : abide by honorable rules of conduct in a debate,
> : I shall refrain from answering any of your posts,
> : as I have refrained from answering those of your
> : pal, Van Alstine. When you are ready to resume
> : discussion under proper conditions, e-mail me.
> :
>
> One of the rules for honourable debate is
> not to hide one’s identity.
>
> Who are you, Honourable One?
> What is your real name?
>
> d.A.
>
>
>
>>>>
Why? Are you interested in dating me?
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Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:25:41 GMT
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> > No, I do not
> >”deny” all the events listed by Czech.
>
> Not the issue. The question is whether you accept Danuta Czech’s
> chronicle (with which I am indeed unfamiliar, nor have I ever claimed
> to have all the literature of the Holocaust at my fingertips) as
> basically accurate and trustworthy.
>
> Do you accept Czech’s chronicle as basically accurate and trustworthy?
>
> If not, who cares whether or not it confirms the assertions of Ada
> Bimko?
>
> You seem to have a serious problem judging your sources.
>
>>>>
You seem to have a serious problem of voicing
an opinion without doing any research.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:13 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Rblackmore and the usual prevarication… Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:26:28 GMT
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Fool. The slabs were in front of Auschwitz. I made no
> >claims about the Wiesenthal Center. Whether gassed or
> >shot or electrocuted or squashed between moving walls,
> >the means is not the important issue here-it is the fake
> >number of 4 MILLION.
>
> Your original claim was that the inscription claimed that four million
> Jews had been gassed. When challenged, you backed down about “gassed”,
> but still insisted that the inscription specified Jews–insisting as
> well that you had a picture of the inscription in front of you! When
> it was pointed out that this too, was inaccurate, you admitted it but
> kept on calling the correspondent who accurately corrected you a
> liar. Now you seem to resent the fact that since you got one detail
> right, people are such meanies as to point out that you got two
> others wrong.
>
> Why don’t you judge Ada Bimko by the same standards of truthtelling
> you use on yourself?
>
> Who’s the fool, oh pseudonymous one?
>
>>>>
You, oh foolish one.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:14 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Rblackmore and the usual prevarication… Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:27:16 GMT
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
>
>
> Why don’t you judge Ada Bimko by the same standards of truthtelling
> you use on yourself?
>
> Who’s the fool, oh pseudonymous one?
>
>>>>
You, oh foolish one.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:15 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Six heads are better than one
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:35:11 GMT
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> [email protected] (Michael P. Stein) writes:
> In article <53scko[email protected]>, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >According to the author of the book, “A Secret
> >Press in Nazi Europe” the following was related:
> >
> >Malka Epstein, a Jewish girl from Kielce, Poland,
> >became a legendary partisan. […]
>
>
> >Comment: These events must have endeared
> >the Jewish population to the Nazi authorities. […]
>
> One wonders how the Nazi authorities knew at the time that it was Jews
> doing it.
>
> —
> Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
> POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
> Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
OK. I will quote further father, or is it father further?
(Stanley Kaufman’s line, in case you weren’t aware)
Here’s the rest of the quote:
“The German failure to capture Makla Epstein
was a bitter pill for the Nazis to swallow.”
(Same page)
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:15 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: The Trains Kept on Rollin’
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:37:05 GMT
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> [email protected] (tom moran) writes:
> >”In the four months of the year 1944, the Istrbitel (Destroyer)
> >Unit, has derailed 44 enemy military trains. Eleven of them
> >were convoy troops and the rest machinery and other
> >military material.”
> >
> >Source: A Secret Press in Nazi Europe, pg. 193, by
> >Isaac Kowalski.
>
> Would anyone be able to prove all the bravado alleged in this book?
> All the bravado that would make it look like it was the Jews who won
> the war? I’ll bet it’s all, or 99% fiction. The fantastic feats are
> also common themes in Holocaust books. Going by the accounts you could
> get the idea no partisans could have done anything without the Jews.
> Bravado. A component of “Chutzpah”.
>
>>>>
Are you implying that Samson didn’t tear down the
temple of the Philistines with his bare hands?
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:16 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A Secret Lie in Nazi Occupied Europe
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:38:48 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53t51s$5i[email protected]> – [email protected] Oct 1996
> 10:35:40 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>In the book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”, the
> :>author writes the following:
> :>
> :>”In the Katin forest, not far from the city of Smolensk
> :>in White Russia, some five thousand Polish officers
> :>were murdered. They were shot in the head, hands
> :>tied, and laid in the pits with their hands tied. In 1943
> :>the Germans trumped up charges that it was done by the
> :>Bolsheviks.” Pg. 15,16.
> :>
> :>Comment: Now, here is more lies from supporters of
> :>the Holocaust. the author who wrote this book was
> :>also a Jewish partisan who fought against the Germans
> :>in Poland and Russia, and who published his “Secret
> :>Press in Nazi Europe”….and we will be hearing more
> :>about this later. Perhaps he had a reason for white-
> :>washing his Soviet friends……….
>
> Which has what to do with the historicity of the Holocaust?
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
I will get to everything in due time.
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:17 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:42:36 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53stsp$2q[email protected]> – [email protected] Oct 1996
> 08:33:29 GMT writes:
> :>
>
> :>It is not a lie. The monuments (plural) stated that
> :>4 million human beings perished at Auschwitz. Don’t
> :>call me a liar either. I don’t need to lie because I have
> :> more than enough prove of the duplicity of those who
> :> promoted the “Holocaust”. You are the one who needs
> :> to buttress your accusations with a panoply of lies and
> :>distortions. You are the liar, for you promised
> :>toxicological reports allegedly taken of gassed victims
> :>and Dachau then failed to produce them
>
> Your first post stated that the monument (singular) said that 4 million Jews
> were gassed at Auschwitz. Those are _your_ words, Mr. Blackmore. It is now
> clear that the monument did not say “gassed” and it did not say “4 million
> Jews”. And yet, you won’t even admit your error, let alone apologize for your
> blatant misstatement of the truth.
>
> And you claim to yearn for serious debate. };->
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Indeed I do. However, you won’t begrudge me an error
simply because the actual quote was unavailable to me at
the time, would you? Anyway, whether they were gassed
or not is simply quibbling. The whole statement on the slab was a lie
through and through and that is the main point. And the
lie has been quoted SO often by so many sources that it
should shame people….
If you can’t believe the messengers, how can you
believe the message?
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:18 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Just for the fun of it…
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:53:11 GMT
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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck Ferree wrote:
>
> A typical rbl non-response, and the turkey must believe that people
> buy his stupidity.
> Chuck
>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > > > [email protected] writes:
> > >
> > > > True enough. That is why I always try to confirm
> > > > the sources before I post. if there is any room for
> > > > doubt, I will come right out and say so at the time
> > > > of posting,
>
> Bullshit, pal, you never try to straighten out your mess, either
> before or after you post. You just post and bluff!
>
> > >
> > > Then please tell us what research you did on Leroy the Mace before you
> > > decided to ignore his written statements and rely on a hearsay account of a
> > > speech he made.
> > >
> > > –YFE
> > >
> > >>>>
> > First tell me why you lied about the British and
> > their water supply to Belsen
>
> There he goes again. First you tell me, then I’ll figure out
> something.
> The guy claims to be a scholor! If he’s a scholor, then, I gonna beat
> Clinton in the coming election.
> Chuck
>
>>>>
Thats “scholar”, not scholor, Chuck.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:19 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:48:06 GMT
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> >> >> >It must be clearly understood that the entire Holocaust-gassing myths
> >> >> > stands and falls with the “confession” of Rudolf Hoess, one-time
> >> >> > commandant of Auschwitz – an Allied prisoner who was sadistically
> >> >> > tortured.
> >> >>
> >> >> I’m sure you would *like* that to be “clearly understood”. That is,
> >> >> however, utter bullshit.
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >Right. Like you are some kind of demi-god sent here to pontificate
> >> >for the rest of us.
> >>
> >> You’ve documented the “torture” of Hoess–the Allies made him sit
> >> in a courtroom festooned with U.S. flags. If you have better
> >> references, don’t hesitate to post them. In the meantime, perhaps
> >> you will refrain from pontificating on what “must be clearly
> >> understood”.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >The details of the torture of Hoess come directly
> >from the mouth of the man who captured and
> >tortured him-Bernhard Clarke.
>
> And is found where?
>
>
>
>
>>>>
Don’t play coy.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:19 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:02:13 GMT
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Then anything Hoess also had to say is hearsay.
>
> Actually, it’s not.
>
> > thank you and please don’t quote from his fake confessions any longer.
>
> You have yet to establish with even a single piece of evidence, that the
> confessions are false. Of course, you can’t, because they are not.
>
>>>>
You have yet to establish that 6,000,000 Jews died in
the Holocaust, or that the absurd statements of many
survivors are not blatant lies. Of course you can’t, because
they are.
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:20 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:04:46 GMT
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> > thank
> > you and please don’t quote from his fake confessions any longer.
>
> You have wholeheartedly failed to cast asperisions on his
> memoirs, Mr. blackmore. Why should we _stop_ quoting from
> it?
>
> Because you say so?
>
>
>
> —
> Brian Harmon <[email protected]>
>
>>>>
No, you will undoubtedly grasp at any straw from your
house of straws until one day it all collapses in a heap
of rubbish. Who knows? Perhaps you’ll find that “needle
in the haystack”, so it won’t be a total loss.
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:20 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Kill em all, let G-d sort em out….
Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:46:22 GMT
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> [email protected] (tom moran) writes:
> >”Rabbi Chaim Moshe Arbes was seventy-two years
> >old when he was forced to fight the Germans, near
> >the small town of Buchawek, Poland….The old rabbi
> >was a genius at planning. He always seemed to know
> >when to strike and where. The sixteen guerillas ambushed
> >German patrols and wiped them out. They derailed German
> >troop trains, blew up bridges, and destroyed supplies. The
> >guerilla band had killed more than one thousand Nazis (Germans-rb)
> >In one of the battles the rabbi was captured while covering the
> >retreat of the partisans, thus saving them all. Rabbi Chaim
> >Moshe Arbes was later hanged in the public square.
> >
> >SOURCE: A Secret Press in Nazi Europe, Isaac
> >Kowalski, Shengold Publishers, pg. 189.
>
> Would anyone be able to prove all the bravado alleged in this
> book? All the bravado that would make it look like it was the Jews who
> won the war? I’ll bet it’s all, or 99% fiction. The fantastic feats
> are also common themes in Holocaust books. Going by the accounts you
> could get the idea no partisans could have done anything without the
> Jews.
> Bravado. A component of “Chutzpah”.
>
>>>>
Are you implying that Samson didn’t slay a thousand
Philistines with the jawbone of an ass?
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:21 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Six heads are better than one
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:29:01 GMT
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Comment: These events must have endeared
> > the Jewish population to the Nazi authorities.
>
> The Nazi regime had no love for anything Jewish long before these events
> happened. In any event, while the events you relate are horiffic, it hardly
> justifies genocide of an entire ethnic group.
>
> [snip]
>
>>>>
No, it doesn’t, what genocide are you referring to?
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:22 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not be Beastly to the Sources
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:08:11 GMT
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >All the reports on the mistreatment of SS and Nazi Party Officials was taken
> >from: “Alliierte Kreigsverbrechen und Verbrechen gegen die Menschlichkeit”
> >(Allied War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity), which consists of
> >depositions given by German interness at the camp of Darmstadt, on behalf of
> >defense attorneys at Nuremberg. The information was verified in the reports
> >and often confirmed by many witnesses. Published by Durer-Verlag, Buenos
> >Aires,
>
> Buenos Aires! Buenos Aires! You gotta be kidding, right?
>
>
>
>>>>
Soviet State Commission, Survivor “eyewitness”
testimony, unsigned “documents”, no forensic
tests, no mass graves,….who’s kidding who?
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:22 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Will the real Bellinger please stand up?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:24:10 GMT
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> [email protected] (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
> >> >Let’s start by identifying ourselves. I’m Gord McFee.
>
> >> Welcome, Gord. I’m Mike Curtis.
>
> >Hello, Mike, hello, Gord. I’m Keith. Or maybe I’m John Morris.
>
> >Or am I Ken this week?
>
> Hilary is Ken this week – but she won’t say which Ken, so you
> could be Ken but not Ken, or Marduk could be you, being one
> Ken but not the other Ken.
>
> Laura was one Ken last week, and Gordon, playing Mike being
> Annie pretending to be Sara, was the other Ken, and neither
> one spoke to either Moran.
>
> Of course, it’s entirely possible that the Laura being one of
> the Ken’s last week was in fact Gordon playing Annie playing
> Mike pretending to be Hilary’s sister’s cat.
>
> Koo koo ka choo, I am the Jamie.
>
> “I can and will come in under another name
> that is not killfiled. You folks have proven
> yourselves so freaking dumb that I can do anything
> I want to show what idiots you are.”
> (Just Moshe, June 13, 1996)
> —
> Nizkor Canada | https://nizkor.org
> ———————–| Remember John Hron
> |————————————–
> https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hron-john/
>
>>>>
Are we all having fun? We will be after you review
some of my more recent posts.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:23 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Miracle on 54th street-In and Out of the Gas Chamber!
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:21:13 GMT
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
Stop being such a fool. She said they were hysterical, not that
> they were going to kill each other.
She said they were hitting one another…..
>
> # Aside from all this, she states tha she “saw fumes coming in
> # through a small window at the top.” How interesting….
>
> She’s obviously talking of one of the “bunkers”, or Krema IV
> or V, in which the Zyklon was inserted via high openings on the side.
Ha ha, ho ho….she said a “window”….
> The simplest explanation is that she
The simplest explanation is that she is a LIAR
Further, her statement about healthy and strong individuals being
> # placed in the chamber is contrary to everything written about the
> # purpose of the selections.
>
> Testimony of SS-Hauptsturmfuehrer Hofmann,
Another LIAR.
>
>
> # Also, her statement that she had been in the gas chamber 1 to 2
> # minutes is nothing more than a complete fabrication.
> You stupid Nazi clown. First, you imbeciles claim that it would
> take the HCN hours to evaporate from the Zyklon, and that it
> would take the victims hours to die
I never said that. Prove it. By the way, I am not a Nazi
nor am I affiliated with any Nazi organization. Better think
up some other slanderous designation…..
. Now, you tell us that they
> would all have died after a minute or two. The truth is that
> the Zyklon releases the HCN, but not that fast; she would not
> have died immediately unless she was very close to it.
Grow up. It is your own Hoess and other survivors who said
that the people died within minutes. Another lie and distortion
and Danny is going down for the count…no “photographs will
help you here…..
>
> # Conveniently she also failed to notice whether her rescuer
> # was wearing a gas mask or not,
>
> And someone in that a situation would note each and every detail?
Ha ha, ho ho. She was SWEATING on that witness stand……
>
> # and the very idea that a guard could simply walk into the gas chamber
> # and escort her out without a full riot on his hands is absurd.
>
> She said that she was already hardly able to move. Probably, so
> were the other inmates.
Probably….tsk tsk…..
>
> Is the testimony a standard one?
It is quite typical, as I intend to prove soon. Let’s see now,
we have Ada Bimko, and this “witness” and more are on the way.
No. A death camp is an odd place;
> many odd things happen in such a place.
Many LIES come out of such a place as we are proving every day.
>
> Personally, I would have discarded the testimony as “probably false”;
I won’t berate you for it, but I won’t. God knows you deserve
it, for all the cheap low shots you take at me…..
> however, there are too many accurate details in it. More so, these
> details would have been known only to someone who went through the
> selection process and saw the gas chambers.
These details were VERY common……rumors abounded in
the camp for years, and I suggest that that is where she
got her “information”……
rb
>
>
>
>
>>>>
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:24 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: ‘Show Trials’? No, Just Another ‘Revisionist’ Lie
Date: 13 Oct 1996 10:01:49 GMT
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> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) wrote:
>
.
>
> >Gee. And our “revisionist scholars” have been telling us
> >all along that these were “show trials”, in which the accused
> >Nazis were “told what to say”, bla-bla.
>
> >”Revisionists”. What a bunch of low-life Nazi liars.
>
> >-Danny Keren.
>
> The fact that -some- truth got through during the trials doesn’t mean the trials as a
> whole weren’t show-trials, and overwhelmingly determined by coercion. -That- they were.
>
> Keren is notorious for grabbing a string here or there and weaving an entire blanket out
> of it — which, not coincidentially, is also a method used repeatedly throughout the
> “Holocaust” theory.
>
> Keren is therefore an apt spokesman for the Great Myth.
>
> Kurt Stele
>
>
>>>>
This “habit” of Danny’s to which you refer is
known as setting up a “red herring”, properly
defined as: “a false clue intended or tending
to mislead someone”…..
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:25 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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>
My comments below:
On Sat, 12 Oct 1996 13:44:21 -0400 [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) writes:
>(A copy of this message has also been posted to the following
>newsgroups:
>alt.revisionism)
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> How absurd and ignorant it is for Nizkor to claims that confession
>> were never extracted from the Germans by coercion or torture!
>jamie wrote:
>rblackmore then revealed that he based this statement on this passage:
>
> No doubt there were some cases of mistreatment. Some Allied
> soldiers were so shocked with what they saw in the camps that they
> reacted with violence, but this is not a serious factor in the
> overall picture.
rblackmore replies:
OK. So there are the two statements. The important part of my statement was
“Nizkor….claims that confessions were never extracted from the Germans by
coercion or torture.”
What your statement QAR 20 said was:
“No doubt there were some cases of mistreatment.” Then, for an example, you wrote:
“Some Allied soldiers were so shocked with what they saw in the camps that they
reacted with violence, but this is not a serious factor in the overall picture.”
Now, please advise me if I am misinterpreting:
1. You said there were cases of mistreatment. So, would you mind posting these cases
of mistreatment? This way
there can be no doubt about your position on this question.
2. Were you, in fact, referring to the massacre of guards at Dachau in the second
part of the statement? If not, what were you referring to?
3. You wrote:
This is a long way from a policy of torture
> inflicted to extract confessions.
My position is that there was indeed an allied policy of torture and coercion
to extract confessions. In fact, that policy was extended to innocent German
civilians as well, who were starved, robbed, raped, tormented, incarcerated, and often
murdered, simply because they were Germans, and I have posted much confirming
material on this very policy.
Finally, you refer the issue to Mr. Raven at the IHR, as if he is my mentor. Please note
that I have absolutely no affiliation whatsoever to the IHR or Mr. Raven. He does not
dictate my opinions, nor do I agree with all of his.
Later, you wrote:
rblackmore has Cc’d me email in which he apologizes for making this
>> false claim.
To which I reply:
I did indeed make a good faith apology but you chose to transform it into
a “false claim”. You took a harmless but well meaning concilatory gesture
and perverted it into propaganda for your cause.
Then you wrote:>rblackmore, I no longer have any compunctions about considering you
>dishonest and hypocritical, and the reasons are plainly given above.
>The passage quoted states its position quite clearly, and your
>misstatement of it is nothing less than a lie.
I was neither dishonest nor hypocritical. In a recent correspondence with me you
indicated that Nizkors comments were rather terse and superficial, and that is
why I now refer you to numbers 1 and 2 above to ask for a complete clarification and
hopefully, an amicable solution to this issue.
rb
PS: I will reply to the Irving correspondence when I have concluded my
reasearch on the subject, but for now, let’s first clear this up.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
My comments below:
On Sat, 12 Oct 1996 13:44:21 -0400 [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) writes:
>(A copy of this message has also been posted to the following
>newsgroups:
>alt.revisionism)
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> How absurd and ignorant it is for Nizkor to claims that confession
>> were never extracted from the Germans by coercion or torture!
>jamie wrote:
>rblackmore then revealed that he based this statement on this passage:
>
> No doubt there were some cases of mistreatment. Some Allied
> soldiers were so shocked with what they saw in the camps that they
> reacted with violence, but this is not a serious factor in the
> overall picture.
rblackmore replies:
OK. So there are the two statements. The important part of my statement was
“Nizkor….claims that confessions were never extracted from the Germans by
coercion or torture.”
What your statement QAR 20 said was:
“No doubt there were some cases of mistreatment.” Then, for an example, you wrote:
“Some Allied soldiers were so shocked with what they saw in the camps that they
reacted with violence, but this is not a serious factor in the overall picture.”
Now, please advise me if I am misinterpreting:
1. You said there were cases of mistreatment. So, would you mind posting these cases
of mistreatment? This way
there can be no doubt about your position on this question.
2. Were you, in fact, referring to the massacre of guards at Dachau in the second
part of the statement? If not, what were you referring to?
3. You wrote:
This is a long way from a policy of torture
> inflicted to extract confessions.
My position is that there was indeed an allied policy of torture and coercion
to extract confessions. In fact, that policy was extended to innocent German
civilians as well, who were starved, robbed, raped, tormented, incarcerated, and often
murdered, simply because they were Germans, and I have posted much confirming
material on this very policy.
Finally, you refer the issue to Mr. Raven at the IHR, as if he is my mentor. Please note
that I have absolutely no affiliation whatsoever to the IHR or Mr. Raven. He does not
dictate my opinions, nor do I agree with all of his.
Later, you wrote:
rblackmore has Cc’d me email in which he apologizes for making this
>> false claim.
To which I reply:
I did indeed make a good faith apology but you chose to transform it into
a “false claim”. You took a harmless but well meaning concilatory gesture
and perverted it into propaganda for your cause.
Then you wrote:>rblackmore, I no longer have any compunctions about considering you
>dishonest and hypocritical, and the reasons are plainly given above.
>The passage quoted states its position quite clearly, and your
>misstatement of it is nothing less than a lie.
I was neither dishonest nor hypocritical. In a recent correspondence with me you
indicated that Nizkors comments were rather terse and superficial, and that is
why I now refer you to numbers 1 and 2 above to ask for a complete clarification and
hopefully, an amicable solution to this issue.
rb
PS: I will reply to the Irving correspondence when I have concluded my
reasearch on the subject, but for now, let’s first clear this up, ok?
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>From the book “The Scourge of the Swastika”
by Lord Russell of Liverpool, Ballantine Books,
1957, 6th Printing, Page 161, we read:
“….we know that not less than 3,000,000
people were put to death at Auschwitz,
2,500,000 of them by means of the
gas chamber.”
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:26 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > Write to the author and ask for a copy of the taped
> > interview. BTW, where are the autopsy and toxicological
> > reports which you promised ages ago?
>
> Now you demonstrate, sonny boy, why your comments have so little
> credibility: you lie.
>
> Please produce the post where I “promised” to supply you with a
> pathologist’s raw notes and the tox reports?
>
> Produce it or stop lying about it.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
That isn’t even a good try. where are the reports?
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:27 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Born again Porno
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >Sure, but you will have to access the whole Streicher
> >Pornographer thread under Deja News. You will have
> >more than enough material there to satisfy your morbid
> >interests.
>
> You mean there was a sufficiently large sample of text from
> DER STUERMER to determine what it did *not* print? Are you a
> complete idiot, “Blackmore”?
>
>>>>
Are you a complete *idiot* Power? It seems you are, as
you rush to post an opinion without reading the material
presented to you which was hashed out to the limit
ages ago, and which proved that Streicher’s material
was NOT pornographic. In any event, you are the
one with self-confesses “morbid interests”. No wonder
you believe in the Holocaust.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 07:58:27 PDT 1996
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Subject: Re: Bill Harmon’s Question
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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck Ferree writs:
>
> Stele the wannabe natsie, is not a troll, just a punk, liar and
> follower of blackmore. Both together have about a 32 IQ, and seem to
> be habitual and compulsive masturbaters, which does have an impact on
> ones perceptions. In their minds, they see lots of pictures of nude
> men and women in lewd poses.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>>>>
Don’t look now, Chuck, but one of the pictures was
you. Yeck.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 09:45:48 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
>
> > And it is all leading
> >somewhere, I can assure you….Now, I have a question for
> >you? Do you regard Mr. Kowalski as an untrustworthy
> >witness?
>
> Given his words on Katyn, yes, I would hesitate to rely on
> him alone as a source. This doesn’t mean that nothing he ever
> said or wrote, even in that book, was true, but I would not
> rely on him on matters of any controversy.
Who would you rely on then?
You are obviously
> picking and choosing what you want us to believe, as you were
> doing with the Danuta Czech chronicle.
Mr. Power, I can not mkae you or anyone else believe
anything. You are free to accept or reject anything I
post here. I am simply testing people’s honesty and their
motivations.
You don’t seem to have
> any standards whatever for evaluating your sources, except
> that you’ll believe what you want to believe.
>
>>>>
I have one standard for evaluating sources, and that is
the truth, which you seem to have difficulty accepting
for reasons known only to you. As to Danuta Czech,
my sole purpose in examing the cronicle was to establish
the veracity and credibility of the “eyewitness survivor”
Ada Bimko, and the results of that probe proved she lied,
as she also lied when she testified under oath that 4 million
Jews were gassed to death at Auschwitz. I dare say that
it is you who has the double standard here, Mr. Power. If
it had been Josef Kramer, or Hoess, making similar statements
undoubtedly you would claim that they were liars. Your partisanship
is showing. BTW, do you deny “believing what YOU want to believe?
If I post information and proof that a person is lying, and you deny it,
that tells us something about your standards.
“He who defends the liar, defends the lie.”
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 09:45:50 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
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> “Annie Alpert, OFB” <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > > > [email protected] writes:
> > > > > [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> > >
> > > > > >> There was never a statement in front of the Auschwitz Musuem that
> > > > > >> 4,000,000 Jew were gassed there.
After researching the article, it mentions 4 million people…I
believe you will agree that Jews are people, and that the
overwhelming majority of alleged fatalities at Auschwitz were
Jewish? Also, the figure of 4 million Jews “gassed” to death
was stated by Ada Bimko, a Jewish Physician and former
inmate of Auschwitz, at the Belsen Trial in 1946. For reference,
please see page 67 of the same book mentioned. To save time,
the quote has been reproduced in a current post here. Also,
this fake 4 million figure has been repeated in countless
publications and “documentaries” since that time, among
them, “The Discovery Channel, WWII magazine, the Pictorial
History of the Jewish People, etc., etc.,…
> > >
> > > > > Of course you can point to the page where there is such a reference,
> > > since
> > > > > I could find no page which says there was a massive slab on front of the
> > > > > museum which claimed that 4 million Jews were gassed.
> > >
> > > > You are showing yourself more the fool every
> > > > day. The 19 stone tablets referred to 4 million
> > > > Jews who allegedly died there. They need not
> > > > have mentioned gassing. It was a lie any way
> > > > you choose to interpret it. BTW, you may now
> > > > add these 19 stone slabs to the discovery channel,
> > > > WWII magazine, and the Pictorial History of the
> > > > Jewish People–and more is on the way. When
> > > > you walk in the snow, you cannot hide your tracks…..
> > >
> > > There was no such placque or series of slabs.
There most certainly is, or was. There were in fact 19 of them,
so the lie of 4 million dead at Auschwitz could be repeated 19
times in 19 different languages, to deceive people from 19 other
countries all around the world.
> > >
> > > This is just another demonstration of how the “revisionists” lie.
This is just another example of how “exterminationists”
deny the facts even when they are flaunted directly in
their face.
> > >
> > >
> No, just type in the inscription exactly as it is on the plaque.
> –
>
No. Refer to F. Piper, for it was he who ordered that the inscriptions
be chiseled out and replaced at a later date, after the findings of
an “International Commission”.
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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On 12 Oct 1996 06:13:52 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> >> > [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
>
> >> Written before the public release of the Simpson Report. The quoted
> >> statements are found nowhere in the report.
>
> >> The Simpson Report found that the allegations of physical brutality
> >> against the Malmedy defendants (and the investigation was limited to those trials)
> >> were unfounded. No medical evidence of such torture was found when the
> >> persons making those allegations were examined.
>
> >I wonder why the Judges actual comments were
> >deleted from the report? Could it have been a
> >COVER-UP?
>
> Oooo. No we have to add another dodge to blackmore/bellings arsenal. If they
> weren’t lying they were tortured. If there wasn’t any torture than there was
> a coverup.
>
> I wouldn’t hold my hand over my ass waiting for your Ph.D. in history if I
> were you, Herr Belling.
>
>
>>>>
Don’t hold your hand over your ass, you might
have a sudden urge to ……..oops……………..
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 13:55:35 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Jewish Partisans
Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:42:08 GMT
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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On 14 Oct 1996 10:41:40 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >In the book, ” A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”,
> >the author writes:
>
> And once agin you fail to provide a full citation. Why am I not surprised?
>
>>>>
You wouldn’t be surprised if you had followed the
5 detailed posts I made yesterday giving all the specifics.
Anyway, to appease the unappeaseable, here it is:
Published by Shengold Publishers, NY, 1978.
Author’s name: Isaac Kowalski.
Now, that you have the info, what is you
want to say?
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 13:55:36 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 13 Oct 1996 08:23:13 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > There was never a statement in front of the Auschwitz Musuem that
> > > 4,000,000 Jew were gassed there.
>
> > You stepped in it that time. The inscription clearly
> > stated that 4 million Jews died in Auschwitz. Whether
> > gassed or shot, or from disease, the LIE remains the same.
>
> You are correct: the lie remains the same. In this case the “revisionist”
> lie. The placque never stated that “4,000,000 Jews died at Auschwitz.”
>
> It’s very easy to dispute this: quote the placque.
>
> `–YFE
>
>>>>
I have the photos.
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 17:18:27 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:43:19 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >> Yale Edeiken wrote:
> >[..]
> >> > Which was prompted by compaints about the manner in which the
> >> > murder of Jews at Auschwitz was minimized by the authorities.
> >>
> >> Minimized?! Four million wasn’t enough? No, it was prompted by
> >> David Cole’s video, among other reasons. They were caught in their
> >> scam, plain and simple. The dream is over.
>
> >Garbage. Piper’s study began in 1980, many years before
> >David Cole made his trip to Auschwitz.
>
> The copyright date on my copy of Cole’s mendacious video is 1992. The
> introduction at the beginning of the tape indicates that Cole went to
> Auschwitz in September of 1992.
>
> Some “historian” this “rblackmore.”
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —
>
>>>>
Thge Auschwitz State Museum maintained the LIE
that 4 million human beings were exterminated at Auschwitz
for 50 years…..some historians……..Whether what you say is
true or not, it was still the work of revisionists which compelled
the admission, whether Cole, Piper, Rassinier, Faurisson, etc.
Also, you regard the work of Cole as being historical?
rb
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 17:18:28 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:38:43 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >The “job”, as I see it, was to deport as many Jews
> >as possible out of war zones. In achieving this goal,
> >I feel they were highly effective.
>
> If the “job” was to deport Jews out of the war zones, why were they
> deported towards the Eastern Front, the only active war zone besides
> Africa and Italy before June 1944?
Where else would have been a good place to deport them?
The Madagascar plan was out after the outbreak of hostilities,
and the Nazis, rightly or wrongly, thought of the Jews as a
potential fifth column. Emigration was encouraged before the
war, but afterwards there was allso a fear that Jewish people
would enlist to fight for the allies, and as Isaac Kowalski
informs us in his book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”:
“What the world at large does not know as yet is that 1 1/2
million Jewish men and women fought within the Allied armies
and in the Partisan Movement against the Axis in World War II.”
Page 332. Shengold Publishers, 1978.
I would say that this confirms the Nazis apprehensions.
And how, pray tell, if Jews were
> merely to be “deported to the East” as so many revisionists claim,
> were the deportees to cross an active front into Soviet controlled
> territory
The Jews were apparently deported into reserves, not within the war zone
itself. In any event, if they were detained, then the possibilities for them
to obtain arms would be strictly curtailed.
And why was the Bialystok ghetto deported, not to the East,
> but to the southwest?
I would have to research this. I can only reply in a general sense
to your questions for now.
>
> And why do you think that the deportation of Jews out of Europe was
> not in itself a horrendous crime?
I think things could and should have been handled differently, yes. However,
I also think that Japanese Americans should not have been incar-
cerated either, nor alleged “fascist sympathizers” living in Britain,
nor Italian Americans living in the USA.
>
>
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 17:18:29 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:24:53 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > > > [email protected] writes:
>
> > > > You have the photos? From where?
>
> > > Matthew Monroe.
>
> > And?
>
> There is no “and.” You asked where I got the photographs. He was
> the source.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
Yes, but where did he obtain the photographs?
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: inconsistent idiot
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> [email protected] (Charles R.L. Power) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> >> Given his words on Katyn, yes, I would hesitate to rely on
> >> him alone as a source. This doesn’t mean that nothing he ever
> >> said or wrote, even in that book, was true, but I would not
> >> rely on him on matters of any controversy.
>
> >Who would you rely on then?
>
> Well, golly, that would depend on who else had written on the
> matter, wouldn’t it?
>
> >I have one standard for evaluating sources, and that is
> >the truth,
>
> Which you have obviously determined before even looking at
> your sources.
>
>>>>
Aren’t you writing about yourself?
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 17:18:30 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:49:42 GMT
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> [email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:
> On 15 Oct 1996 11:23:27 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> >> Chuck Ferree writes:
>
> >> What is your definition of The Holocaust? I mean your personal
> >> definition!
>
> >I will give it in e-mail and it is not to be posted.
> >If you agree to this, then e-mail me.
>
> And what is it you wish to hide, Herr Belling?
>
>>>>
It is nothing I am hiding, by the way. I WILL post it
as soon as I am ready. You wouldn’t want me to
rush in with an opinion before I ahve thoroughly
researched the subject, would you?…..Sure, you would.
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 17:18:31 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:39:47 GMT
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> Brian Harmon <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Yale Edeiken wrote:
> [..]
> > > Which was prompted by compaints about the manner in which the
> > > murder of Jews at Auschwitz was minimized by the authorities.
> >
> > Minimized?! Four million wasn’t enough? No, it was prompted by
> > David Cole’s video, among other reasons. They were caught in their
> > scam, plain and simple. The dream is over.
>
> Garbage. Piper’s study began in 1980, many years before
> David Cole made his trip to Auschwitz.
>
> —
> Brian Harmon <[email protected]>>
>>>>
Right. And it took 10 years for them to correct the
obvious. Give us a break.
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Will the real Bellinger please stand up?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 22:16:29 GMT
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Are we all having fun? We will be after you review
> > some of my more recent posts.
>
> You mean the posts where you claim Kramer was a nice guy who did what he
> could to save the Jews ? OR the post where you claim that the Auschwitz
> Museum had ’19 slabs’ which stated that 4 million Jews were gassed. Or
> perhaps you’re referring to the posts where you claim that Hoess was
> tortured ? Or even the posts where you hold up a source from 1961, and
> 1957, and claim some conspiracy to propagate a false figure regarding the
> number of dead at Auschwitz ? Or maybe evey the post where it is revealed
> that you claimed the Discovery Channel was knowingly misleading the public
> ? No, wait, I know – you mean the post where it is shown that you made a
> totally unfounded accusation against the Simon Wisenthal Center. That’s
> probably it.
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your
> life and your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
> If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
>
>>>>
Fool.
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:52:44 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53rvqg$18[email protected]> – [email protected] Oct 1996
> 00:00:16 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> :>> In message <53nfam[email protected]> – [email protected] writes:
> :>> :>
> :>>
> :> The lie was propagated with either malicious
> :>> :>or irresponsible intent to deceive and inflame the public.
> :>>
> :>> Only if one erects a straw man in order to later knock it down. The precise
> :>> number murdered during the Holocaust is only a matter of incidental academic
> :>> interest. It is the historicity of the Holocaust that is the issue. Do you
> :>> deny that?
> :>
> :>I do not deny it-I simply ask for a precise definition
> :>of the Holocaust, which is not incompatible with
> :>all the lies and distortions which are being exposed
> :>in this USENET. It seems that the “Holocaust” is
> :>subject to many interpretations….
>
> Then I ask again. Can you define that which you claim not to deny?
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Will you first present that which you claim to support?
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 19:07:36 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: “Survivor” Abraham Glinowieski-Beaten by the Invisible Man
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Here is some more “survivor testimony” i.e., more LIES< taken from “The Belsen Trial” pages 103, 105: Glinowieski: Kramer caught me once in Auschwitz, about November, 1943, when I was in possession of a small piece of bread and a little margarine. Also I “collected” (Quotation marks mine-rb) a pair of jackboots and for this I received 25 strokes.” Cross examined by Major Winwood, pages 105, 106: Winwood: You mentioned an incident in October or November, 1943, when you received 25 strokes >from Kramer at Auschwitz. Do you not agree that
we still had to wait a matter of five months after this
date before Kramer ever came to Auschwitz?
A: No, it is not true.
Q: In the statement you made to a British officer at Belsen,
why did you not mention this very painful incident?
A: Because only photographs of the S.S. men were
shown to me and I was asked to say whether I could
not accuse any of them?”
End of Quotes.
Ha! Read it for yourselves. Another liar. By the way,
I referred to the Auschwitz Chronicle regarding the months
and years of Kramer’s service at Auschwitz. the result?:
“In 1944 he returned to Auschwitz as Commander of
Birkenau but was transferred in November of that year
to Bergen-Belsen in the same function.” Page 816.
Another day, another liar.
“If you can’t believe the messengers, how can you
believe the message?”
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 19:07:37 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Eyewitnessess
Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:33:15 GMT
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <53qiga$[email protected]> – ct 1996 11:06:50 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>> “Samuel G. Hammons” <[email protected]> writes:
> :>> The topic of whether the holocaust happened or not is closed as far as I
> :>> am concerned. My grandfather was an Army captain during WWII. He was
> :>> with Patton’s Third Army. He saw concentration cams and death cams that
> :>> they liberated. He said it. I believe it. Why would he make it up?
> :>>
> :>>>>>
> :>No one has ever denied there were concentration
> :>camps. What is your definition of the Holocaust?
>
> What is yours? After all, it is _you_ who denies it. Do you know what you
> deny?
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Indeed, I do. Do you know what it is you are
attempting to defend?
rb
From [email protected] Tue Oct 15 19:07:38 PDT 1996
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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> :
> : >Mr. “Blackmore” and I have been around this one before when he used to post
> : >under another pseudonym.
> :
> : Perhaps the time has come to reveal Jellybelly’s real name.
> :
>
> Or at least his/her/its other pseudonyms.
>
> d.A.
>
>>>>
Why don’t you start posting the truth about the holocaust
for a change?
rb
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
> In message <mvanalst-13[email protected]> – [email protected] (Mark
> Van Alstine) writes:
> :>
> :>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
> :>
> :>[snip]
> :>
> :>> …Atleast I don’t go around parading photos of people who
> :>> died from disease and then imply that they were murdered.
> :>
> :>No, instead Herr Schwarzesel, when confronted with the graphic evidence
> :>of Nazi murder by brutality, privation, starvation, and disease at
> :>Bergen-Belsen, tries to white-wash said Nazi crimes, vindicate those Nazis
> :>in charge, and implicity and/or explicity blame the British for the deaths
> :>of the victims of Nazi persecution there.
> :>
> :>All in a day’s work for a lying scumbag Nazi apologists like Herr Schwarzesel.
> :>
> :>(And yes, he _has_ flipped.)
>
> All it seems in a desperate attempt to deflect things to the “atrocities”
> suffered by the Germans. Now where have we seen that line of reasoning
> before?
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Are you saying that Germans who suffered as
much or worse than some Jews are not deserving
of equal compassion?
rb
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Date: 14 Oct 1996 09:55:49 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > Yes. Your “evidence” was a “reasonable suspicion.” You have
> > > poste nothing else concerning his treatment at the time he confessed or
> when
> > > he wrote his memoirs.
>
> > Wrong again. Browse, Counselor, browse…….
>
> I have. You have produced nothing other than your “reasonable
> suspicion.”
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
And you have produced nothing but distortions…
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another Holocaust Peculiarity
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:24:09 GMT
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
> [snip]
>
Irrespective of this fact, you have LIED again, this time about the
> Auschwitz Museum.
Please. You are so obvious. The LIE is that 4 million people were
murdered at Auschwitz, the majority of them Jews. Your comparisons
between my alleged “lie” and theirs is ridiculous.
Add this to your lies about the Simon Wisenthal Center,
I never told lies about the Wiesenthal Center.
> your lies about the motives of the Discovery Channel,
I never lied about the motives of the Discovery Channel.
Perhaps you will be kind enough to inform us of their
motives for airing a “documentary” where it was stated
as a matter of fact that 4.5 million Jews were murdered
at Auschwitz?
and your credibility,
> which was not great to begin with, is now beyond non-existent.
Only in your distorted imagination….
>
> >Also, the figure of 4 million Jews “gassed” to death
> > was stated by Ada Bimko, a Jewish Physician and former
> > inmate of Auschwitz, at the Belsen Trial in 1946. For reference,
> > please see page 67 of the same book mentioned. To save time,
> > the quote has been reproduced in a current post here. Also,
> > this fake 4 million figure has been repeated in countless
> > publications and “documentaries” since that time, among
> > them, “The Discovery Channel, WWII magazine, the Pictorial
> > History of the Jewish People, etc., etc.,…
>
> You’ve yet to establish:
You’ve yet to admit that the above have grossly and irresponsibly
LIED to the world about the alleged figure of dead Jews at Auschwitz.
>
> (1) That there is some sort of conspiracy, Joosh ™ or otherwise, that
> intends to propagate an incorrect figure.
I never said that there was a Jewish conspiracy.
> (2) That this figure negates thet FACT that more than six million people
> were killed, and the FACT that the Holocaust happened.
You have yet to prove your #2 contention. From the way things
are going, you are not doing so well. Plenty of accusations, but
no proof.
>
> [other blackmore garbage snipped]
>
> ——————-
> When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your
> life and your strength. Give thanks for your food and for the joy of living.
> If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies in yourself.
Indeed, I finally agree completely with something you have written.
I see great joy in living, and it is my belief that ALL people
should be accorded this joy as well.rb
>
>>>>
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:16 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:02:44 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> [in response to Yale Edeiken re: Dr. Charles Larson’s forensic
> reports]
>
> >You are the liar. I asked from day one for the reports
> >as soon as you made the mistake of telling me they
> >existed. Where are they? I read what Larson said
> >and I do NOT accept his opinions without the proof
> >to confirm it.
>
> Of course, you believe Larson was a liar. Why was Larson a liar?
> Because he was in on the “cover-up.” What cover-up? Why the cover-up
> of the truth about the Holocaust.
Are you supposed to be second guessing me here?
>
> This is starting to sound pretty lame: every document is a forgery;
> every confession was extorted by torture; every witness was lying.
> Whew! That’s some kind of theory of history!
Well, at least you are getting closer to the truth.
>
> What is really a hoot is that no one ever heard of Charles Larson on
> this newsgroup until about a year and a half ago when deniers started
> posting the IHR’s claims that Larson claimed to have found no evidence
> of homicidal gassing in the Altreich which a quick read of Larson’s
> memoirs (by Mark Van Alstine) showed not to be the case.
>
> But, what the hell: if you can’t believe the messengers how can you
> believe the message.
Use your own quotes, don’t steal mine.
> —
rb
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:16 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: inconsistent idiot
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> [email protected] (Bodhisattva) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > [email protected] (Bodhisattva) writes:
> > > Excellent work. Good thing someone has the patience to sort through
> > > Blackmore’s shite.
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >>>>
> > Perhaps you should have waited before you rushed to
> > congratulate Mr. Power. There was and is no inconsistency.
>
> Sure.
>
> > All is planned ahead of time………
>
> Sure.
>
> > There is, however, a certain
> > inconsistency between your comments about having the “patience
> > to sort through” my “shite”, in that you have obviously accessed
> > and read through it quite often.
>
> Sorry; I don’t see it, and neither does anyone else.
>
>>>>
You’re all the blind leading the blind anyway. I would
not have expected less.
rb
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:17 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
Date: 16 Oct 1996 07:59:20 GMT
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> [re: the difficulty of obtaining documents from archival sources which
> of course are difficult to obtain unless you can produce a letter of
> recommendation demonstrating a serious scholarly purpose, and
> sometimes even that is not enough, as I found out to my chagrin two
> summers ago at the Bodleian Library, though I finally did manage to
> obtain a reader’s pass, but that’s a whole other story]
>
> >If they ARE unlikely to be easily accessible, and they ARE,
> >what do you think is the reason for it?
>
> It’s a Jewish conspiracy?
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta
> —
>
>
>>>>
Is it?
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:17 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Rich Graves) writes:
> [email protected] (John Morris) wrote:
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >[re: the difficulty of obtaining documents from archival sources which
> >of course are difficult to obtain unless you can produce a letter of
> >recommendation demonstrating a serious scholarly purpose, and
> >sometimes even that is not enough, as I found out to my chagrin two
> >summers ago at the Bodleian Library, though I finally did manage to
> >obtain a reader’s pass, but that’s a whole other story]
> >
> >>If they ARE unlikely to be easily accessible, and they ARE,
> >>what do you think is the reason for it?
> >
> >It’s a Jewish conspiracy?
>
> Yes, that must be it.
>
> I mean, just last week I went up to the Hill, asked for the original copy
> of the Declaration of Independence, and they handed it to me forthwith, no
> questions asked. Why should the Nazi records be any different? Must be
> those damn Jews.
>
> -rich
>
>>>>
Must be those damn liars, who ever they may be.
rb
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:18 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Gord McFee) writes:
>
rblackmore writes:
> :>>
> :>>
> :>>
>
> :>What are you implying?
>
> Who says I am implying anything?
>
>
>
> —
> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time
>
>
>>>>
Is that a denial?
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:19 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Blackmore: Denier (was Re: Hoess Memoirs)
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> >
> > > >Which do you refer to? BTW, Edeikin claimed such
> > > >reports exist and he had access to them. I do not
> > > >say that I have such reports concerning the Soviets.
> > > >This being the case, what IS your point?
> >
> Liar. I presented you with the conclusions of a forensic pathologist and the
> place where his complete report could be found.
>
>
>
> Again, Yale E. made a
> > claim that he had access to toxicological reports which would
> > prove that victims died from cyanide poisoning at Dachau.
> > I did not claim that these people were gassed. So, it is up
> > to him to now put his money where his mouth is.
>
> Liar. I claimed they were part of the Congressional Record. Look them up
> for yourself.
>
> You will not, of course. You asked for forensic evidence. You received it.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
I received your lprevarications, as usual. Where are
the toxicological reports? Produce them.
rb
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Subject: Re: Einsatzgruppen Reports – OSR USSR #45
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >I have the Lifton book, but I am not interested in a
> >deposition from a person who never testified to his
> >comments in a trial. Also, there still is no proof that
> >this person ever existed.
>
> Rather odd sentiment from someone who claims to be a serious
> *researcher*.
>
> >You speak of lazy researchers? Where are the toxicological tests
> > you claimed were done on alleged gassing victims at dachau,
> >which you claimed to have?
>
> The ball is the *researcher’s* court, Mr. Blackmore/Belling/Whoever.
>
> >>
> >> Exactly. Now prove it. Start with the Simpson Report and prove that it is
> >> in error.
> >
> >Your Simpson reprt was a whitewash. What Judge van Roden said was
> >the truth.
>
> Says Belling/Balckmore/whoever as he/she stamps his/her feet on the
> floor.
>
>
>
>>>>
At least I am still not in diapers, as I imagine you are.
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Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:12:01 GMT
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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck Ferree wrote:
>
> > >>>>
> > They have been posted. Don’t look too far though,
> > you might become stigmatized.
>
>
> Well, I’ve been searching the entire Internet, and by golly they just
> ain’t there. Better have my computer checked out.
> Chuck
>
>>>>
Better have your eyes checked out while
you’re at it.
rb
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> [email protected] (Rajiv K. Gandhi) writes:
>
I have told you time and time again that I do not receive the Discovery
> Channel.
You have also said that you contacted the
Discovery Channel weeks ago……yet you
REFUSE to tell us what they replied…..
However, since your claim really has
> nothing to do with the statement in the documentary, which I have not
> disputed,
That is precisely what the quote was about! So, you DO
NOT claim that the Discovery Channel did not air a fake
4.5 million figure of Jewish dead at Auschwitz?
whether or not I have seen the documentary is irrelevant. YOU
> CLAIMED THAT THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL WAS
KNOWINGLY MISLEADING THE PUBLIC. You
> have decline, time and time again, to provide
ANY EVIDENCE whatsoever. You
> lied.
Fool. I qualified that rash statement with an explanation that
the figure was NEGIGENT AND IRRESPONSIBLE, and that,
of course, can be proven simply by referring to the Discovery
Channel or the tape.
>
> > And you have contacted the editors of WW II magazine
> > to ask them why they posted a fake number of 4,000,000
> > dead Jews at Auschwitz as late as 1994?
>
> They have been sent a communication requesting verification of your claim.
Somehow I feel that we will never hear from Gandhi aabout this
again…..
>
> > And you have contacted the publishers of “Pictorial History
> > of the Jewish People” and asked them to confess why they
> > had published a phoney and fictictious number of 4 million
> > Jews killed at Auschwitz in well over 11 consecutive editions
> > of their publication?
>
> This one, I’m not doing, since you’ve quoted a source that is 35 years old.
> By the way, you have yet to demonstrate where I promised to contact every
> person/publisher that you claim is acting irresponsibly.
The lie that 6 million Jews died during the war is older
than this publication, yet you cling to that fakery as if
the future of your soul depended on it.
>
> > You did, didn’t you? Hypocrite, fool, liar.
>
> This from the man who LIES about the Discovery Channel, who LIES about the
> Simon Wiesenthal Center, and who himself refuses to provide evidence to
> support either of his ludicrous claims.
Oh, the man of fair play and the aivd proponent of truth
begs off from being totally embarrassed and humiliated.
Fool. Liar. Hypocrite.
rb
>
>>>>
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] (Kurt Stele) writes:
>
> # Where does it [Hoess’ memoirs] say “it infuriated” his Soviet
> # and Polish captors? I’m waiting.
>
> Look at page 56 of the book.
>
> # Obviously 4 million was such a ridiculous figure even the hoaxsters
> # had to retract it. The figure was then re-set to 1.13 (not 1.3).
>
> You still don’t get it, do you.
>
> The Soviets and the Poles did support the 4 million figure. Why
> would they, then, “dictate” to Hoess a figure of 1.3 million to
> write in his memoirs? Why would they “tell him” to mock and
> ridicule the higher figures?
Obviously I “get” what you are saying, and I am telling
you that Hoess is COMPLETELY unreliable as a witness.
Period. Now, a couple of questions for you…..
1. What date do you give as the commencement of the
“final solution” at Auschwitz and why.
2. At what date did Hoess leave as commandant, and on
what date did he return, and for how long?
>
>
> “kurtzi” stele. Possibly, the most stupid “revisionist” on the
> block. Not that the competition ain’t tough…
Neither is the opposition.
rb
>
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From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:22 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Six heads are better than one
Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:43:03 GMT
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> [email protected] (Michael P. Stein) writes:
>
> This still does not answer the question. It merely appears to assert
> that the Nazis knew who she was (though this is not definite – see below).
> It still provides no explanation of a) how they knew who she was, nor b)
> how they knew which exploits were hers. Did she send them notes after the
> fact like the IRA does when they plant bombs?
>
> The sentence as written would still be legitimate even if the author
> could have written:
>
> “The German failure to capture the unknown partisan who caused them
> such trouble (though we now know it was Malka Epstein) was a bitter
> pill….”
> —
> Mike Stein The above represents the Absolute Truth.
> POB 10420 Therefore it cannot possibly be the official
> Arlington, VA 22210 position of my employer.
>
>>>>
OK. There is more. Quote:
“What drove the German “superman” to murderous frenzy
was the knowledge that its leader was a Jewish girl.” Page 189.
Comment: Aside from that, it appears she was way a “head” of
her time.
rb
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:23 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not be Beastly to the Sources
Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:38:21 GMT
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >> >All the reports on the mistreatment of SS and Nazi Party Officials was taken
> >> >from: “Alliierte Kreigsverbrechen und Verbrechen gegen die Menschlichkeit”
> >> >(Allied War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity), which consists of
> >> >depositions given by German interness at the camp of Darmstadt, on behalf of
> >> >defense attorneys at Nuremberg. The information was verified in the reports
> >> >and often confirmed by many witnesses. Published by Durer-Verlag, Buenos
> >> >Aires,
> >>
> >> Buenos Aires! Buenos Aires! You gotta be kidding, right?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >Soviet State Commission, Survivor “eyewitness”
> >testimony, unsigned “documents”, no forensic
> >tests, no mass graves,….who’s kidding who?
>
> Considering what you have done with your prior quotations of sources
> and your out of context dithering of a presentation of the Belsen
> Trial it is quite possible that you are capable of anything, Mr.
> Blackmore/Belling/whoever-but-suspected-to-be-Ehrlich606-by-some.
>
>
>
>
>>>>
Please. it is you who distort, but keep up the good
work. Keep on supporting the liars as well as the lie
…….More is on the way……
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:24 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Rosa Lopez vs Ada Bimko
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > I don’t know why you wasted your time or mine with this lame attempt to
> > defend a proven LIAR. Let me address your “salient” points….
>
> Hardly “lame.” He demolished you.
>
>
> > was to direct attention to the fact that she must have been a very strange type
> of physician,
> > who apparently could not differentiate between a male or a female. The
> comment was
> > used sarcastically.
>
> After you lied about her testimony.
>
>
> > I don’t find it relevant to her lies.
>
> There were no lies.
>
> There is one liar here. It is blackmore.
>
Yale, people are wise to you now, they really are.
No matter how you wiggle and dance, the last
three drops go down your pants.
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Chattanooga Choo-Choo
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Caption below a photo of a derailed train in the
book, “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe”, by
Isaac Kowalski, Shengold Pub. 1978, page 132:
“One of the 110 trains with German soldiers
and heavy weapons blown up by Jewish
partisans.”
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:25 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Let’s Not Be Beastly to the Germans
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > He certainly did. ANd he stated he shoved a “torch” (which I take to be a
> > > flashlight) down his throat. It is hard to describe this as “torture.”
>
> > Would you be willing to submit to this treatment for
> > a while?
>
> That is not an answer.
For once, you’re right. You didn’t give an answer.
>
> >
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:26 PDT 1996
Article: 74751 of alt.revisionism
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: The Jewish “Crusades”
Date: 16 Oct 1996 09:27:43 GMT
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>From “A Secret Press in Nazi Europe” by
Isaac Kowalski, 1978, page 126:
“Dani Warman lived in Palestine during
the war. He was nineteen years of age
when, together with several other brave
youngsters from other countries, he was
sent on a mission to assassinate Field
Marshall Rommel. For a number of reasons,
that mission failed and the entire group
was wiped out.”
Comment: I wonder “who” sent these
youngsters on this suicide mission?
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Hand in Hand with Ehrenburg
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On page 124 of the book “A Secret Press in
Nazi Europe”, author Isaac Kowalski refers
to Germans as “two footed human beasts”.
He must have been listening to Ilya Ehrenburg,
whose photo he reproduces on page 312 of
his book.
Source: “Secret Press in Nazi Europe
Isaac Kowalski, Shengold Pub. 1978.
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:27 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Dr. Leo Lies like a Rug
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>From the testimony of Dr. Leo at the Belsen
Trial:
Q: Was there any gas chamber at Belsen?
A: A gas chamber was in preparation. A very
trustworthy and good Kapo, a Czech called
Bellenech, told me that in the middle of March (1945!-rb)
he had orders from his SS building contractor
to build a hut underground which was to have been
covered entirely with earth and kept air-tight. When
Bellenechsaid to this SS contactor, “I know perfectly
well for what purpose this underground hut is being
built,” the SS man looked at him and said, “Well, I
think you are right.” It was clear to all of us that
plans for a gas chamber had been prepared.”
Source: “The Belsen Trial”, page 124.
Comment: Well, how about it, Nizkorites? Care
to add this one to Dachau, Natzweiler, and Neuengamme?
Seems that the Nazis just couldn’t build those gas chambers
fast enough during the final weeks of the war–“I’m ready
for my close up, Mr. DeMille….”
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:27 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Another one to add to the Discovery Channel
Date: 16 Oct 1996 09:56:31 GMT
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > It is nothing I am hiding, by the way. I WILL post it
> > as soon as I am ready. You wouldn’t want me to
> > rush in with an opinion before I ahve thoroughly
> > researched the subject, would you?…..Sure, you would.
>
> The problem is that you should have “researched” it before you wrote
> rather than after.
>
> –YFE
>
>>>>
We are discussing Auschwitz here, and I really
have made any definitive statement yet.
rb
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: More on Goring’s Commission to Heydrich
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> [email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:
> In article <3[email protected]>, [email protected] (Mike
> Curtis) wrote:
>
> > [email protected] (Gord McFee) wrote:
> >
> > >In message <53q82g$o0[email protected]> – [email protected] Oct 1996
> > >08:08:48 GMT writes:
> > >:>
> > >
> > >:>I was in a Biblical frame of mind last night. I referred
> > >:>to the ball in your corner because it is my contention
> > >:>that exterminations have indeed backed themselves
> > >:>into a corner by adhering to the Holocaust in all its
> > >:>details. As to the sources, start with “Let’s not be Beastly
> > >:>to the Sources”.
> > >
> > >Let’s start by identifying ourselves. I’m Gord McFee.
> > >
> > Welcome, Gord. I’m Mike Curtis.
>
> Hi, you two. If we’re having a civilized discussion, I’m Sara.
>
> If Mr. Giwer gets involved, I’m also fatbroad, dumbtwat, stupid slut, silly
> bitch, typical Jew mother, and a bunch of other names Mr. Giwer likes to
> use.
>
> Or should I say Danial Keren? Or Just Moshe? Or Kurt Stele?
>
> Sara
> aka etc. etc. etc.
>
> —
> “I do not mind lying, but I hate inaccuracy.”
> Samuel Butler
>
>
>>>>
I don’t mind inaccuracy, but I hate lying.
From [email protected] Wed Oct 16 07:15:29 PDT 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: “Der Stuermer”-Hitler’s Favorite Mag?
Date: 16 Oct 1996 09:07:41 GMT
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> [email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) writes:
>(quoting Streicher in 1942):
And only then, after the removal
> of these parasites, will there be a long period of understanding
> amongst nations, and hence real peace will come to the suffering
> world.
> —
> Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/
> [email protected] Co-Webmaster of https://nizkor.org/
>
>>>>
Well, now, in what year did Kaufman write his extermination
diatribe against the German people? In case you don’t know,
I will lsupply the information. Before Streicher ever wrote the
inciting words quoted above, a Jewish author in America,
Theodore N. Kaufman, wrote a hateful book entitled “Germany
Must Perish” in 1941! Here is a sample opf what he wrote:
“There is, in fine, nno other solution except one: That
Germany must perish from this earth! And fortunately,
as we shall now come to see, that is no longer impossible
of accomplishment. (1941 edition) In the preface of the
book, the following was written:
“This dynamic volume outlines a comprehensive plan
for the extinction of the German nation and the total
eradication from the earth, of all her people.”
Hmmm, sounds like a “final solution” for the “German
Problem”, doesn’t it?
Streicher, who never had any love for the Jews in
any case, had read this book, as it was widely
distributed, and the above was his reply. Now, what
is good for the goose is also good for the gander, as
they say.
rb
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> [email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
> > Comment: It seems that Jewish children were exploited
> > for the needs of the Partisans as well. Very sad.
>
> And in the trenches around Fredericksburg were barefoot boys as young as 12.
>
> So the Confederate Army did it as well.
>
> Your point?
>
> Sara
>
> —
> “I do not mind lying, but I hate inaccuracy.”
> Samuel Butler
>
>
>>>>
You see the point, I think.
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