Blackmore 2, Bellinger Joseph

Daniel Keren writes:
[email protected]
[email protected] writes:

I can only reply that your opinions have no basis in fact, IMO.
I have read through the testimony at the Belsen trial and I must
simply call a spade a spade. Most of the accusers come off as
liars, or exaggerators, at best. The Germans appear to be giving
truthful testimony.

So you accept the testimonies of Hoessler, Kramer, Dr. Klein etc
about the gas chambers? They were Germans, you know.

As to the German torture allegations, I believe I have
posted enough evidence in the past regarding this accusation,

You posted zero evidence that, for instance, one accused SS-men
or women who testified in the Belsen Trial was tortured. You
posted zero evidence that any of the numerous SS-men, who testified
in the trials held by the German legal system, was tortured or
mistreated in any way whatsoever.

I believe I have posted evidence in the past that Kramer was mistreated and
tortured, and that his original detailed statement denied the existence of gas chambers.
As I do not regard the gas chambers as a reality at this point, anything they may have
said to corroborate it after their “interrogation” is simply irrelevant–as irrelevant as anything
Jews had to say about Jewish ritual murder.

Yet, every single one of these people gave a description of the
death camps which contradicts everything our insane “revisionists”
claim. But what did these SS-men know, after all? They only built
the camps and ran them, right?

And their descriptions simply strike me as a rehash of the witches sabbat.
The fraudulent details were already known, and the object of the occupation
forces was to see to it that they admitted to their reality. What insane revisionists
do you refer to? Do you consider Primo Levi sane?

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

l. Before your handlers dropped
you, you actually were distorting testimony and sources that you would
actually name. No you have stopped doing that in favor of voicing
opinions which I pointed out were as valuable as a pimple on a ducks
butt. (That’s for Mark, he liked that.)

COMMENT: How about Fania Fenelon? You didn’t come out looking so
good with that one.–rb

It is good that you are concerned that Nizkor is so organized and
controlling. It is good that you feel that many of us are here not out
of concern but as a part of some propaganda machine. It is always
intersting when people do meet us and find that we are just average
folks who hate seeing history put to the kind hateful means that you
and your handlers prefer.

COMMENT: Indeed, you prefer your own distortions.–rb

I’m here out of a self interest and that is
that I think the denial of the holocaust is irresponsible and
dangerous. Plus lies concerning history piss me off. Maybe valuable
classroom time can be saved by dealing with the facts here in the
group. It’s a start, anyway.

Sorry, Blackmore, I choose my own game.

COMMENT:
Then I would suggest that you choose to PLAY fairly. Not only are you wrong
about the Holocaust, but also about my alleged “handlers”, which is apparently
another fake diversionary tactic you are attemtping to create to drive people’s
attention from the real issues. I have no handlers, consequently, no one could
ever have “dropped me”, as you put it. Curious allegation, though.–rb

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[email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
[email protected] writes:

# I can only reply that your opinions have no basis in fact, IMO.
# I have read through the testimony at the Belsen trial and I must
# simply call a spade a spade. Most of the accusers come off as
# liars, or exaggerators, at best. The Germans appear to be giving
# truthful testimony.

So you accept the testimonies of Hoessler, Kramer, Dr. Klein etc
about the gas chambers? They were Germans, you know.

# As to the German torture allegations, I believe I have
# posted enough evidence in the past regarding this accusation,

You posted zero evidence that, for instance, one accused SS-men
or women who testified in the Belsen Trial was tortured. You
posted zero evidence that any of the numerous SS-men, who testified
in the trials held by the German legal system, was tortured or
mistreated in any way whatsoever.

I believe I have posted evidence in the past that Kramer was mistreated and
tortured, and that his original detailed statement denied the existence of gas chambers.
As I do not regard the gas chambers as a reality at this point, anything they may have
said to corroborate it after their “interrogation” is simply irrelevant–as irrelevant as anything
Jews had to say about Jewish ritual murder.
>
> Yet, every single one of these people gave a description of the
> death camps which contradicts everything our insane “revisionists”
> claim. But what did these SS-men know, after all? They only built
> the camps and ran them, right?

And their descriptions simply strike me as a rehash of the witches sabbat.
The fraudulent details were already known, and the object of the occupation
forces was to see to it that they admitted to their reality. What insane revisionists
do you refer to? Do you consider Primo Levi sane?

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

What did I say?

What about this:

“So on all accounts, this quote is full of crap.”

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[email protected] (Richard Schultz) writes:

And your thinking that such sharing is “apropos” to this newsgroup
sort of gives the lie to your claim that you aren’t an anti-Semite,
doesn’t it?

—–
Richard Schultz [email protected]
Department of Chemistry tel: 972-3-531-8065
Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel fax: 972-3-535-1250
—–
“an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience”

Of course you would imply this. You have little else to rely on.

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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] writes:
>
> # COMMENT: Ho-Hum. It’s getting old, Danny. The Old
> # Holocaust just ain’t what it used to be…..
>
> My article wasn’t directly about the Holocaust, but about
> the fact that you are a proven pathological liar.
>
> To repeat:
>
> Among the numerous lies posted to this newsgroup by “rblackmore”,
> one of the most outstanding ones is his claim, made in the
> article with Message-Id:<[email protected]>.
> “rblackmore” is trying to “prove” that the “SS punished
> camp commandants who killed Jews”:
>
> # Not at all, the SS themselves executed Goeth, Koch, and
> # other camp commanders who abused the prisoners under their
> # charge.
>
> unfortunately for “rblackmore”, Goeth was not executed by the
> SS, but was tried and executed by the Poles after the war. Koch
> was tried and executed by the SS for theft and for murdering
> two non-Jewish inmates.
>
> I can post other lies of your, if you want.

> -Danny Keren.

It seems you are posting your own lies. Seeing that I have never conciously
lied, your offer is a bit redundant.

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[email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:

Without your handlers, you appear quite lost, Mr. Bellinger. You have been
reduced to meaningless, one-line responces, corresponding with Harold
Covington, and engaging in your rabid anti-semitism with posts like this.

I had higher hopes for you. You once at least attempted to make an
arguement. I guess I was fooled into thinking you were your own man and
posting on your own. Now that someone has stopped ghosting for you, you have
nothing left but this. It”s kind of sad.
>>>>
COMMENT: What strange ideas you have, Mr. Lewis. No one has ever ghost written
anything for me. What I write depends on my mood and the purpose I have in mind at
the time. As I have already explained, I now regard the following formula as correct:

Jewish “Blood Libel” = German “Gas Chamber” Libel

What could be simpler? As far as Mr. Covington is concerned, I have no
special relationship with him, as you appear to have with the Simon Wiesenthal
Center…..and, furthermore, as Nizkor has no special affiliations with a synagogue,
as we have all been repeatedly informed, I have no special affiliations with Mr. Covington
or his organization.–rb

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> Gord McFee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Mike Curtis wrote:
> >>
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >> Now that the anti-Semitic denier has found two cases (without page
> >> number to the source), this has what connection to the Holocaust?
> >> Do you want to discuss witchcraft testimony and the psychology of 17th
> >> century paranoia or do you want to discuss what THIS newsgroup is most
> >> concerned with.
> >
> >Mike, you have to understand that they have to discuss things that are
> >irrelevant to the fact of the Holocaust, since they are getting flayed
> >so badly on matters that *are* relevant to the fact of the Holocaust.
> >
> >[rest deleted]

> I do know what Blackmore is trying to do, it’s just that he is so poor
> at doing it. I could be a denier for a day and do a far better job of
> making the point blackmore is trying to make. But I couldn’t do that,
> for I couldn’t, in all honesty, support my denial positions with
> legitimate history. I just do it and feel slimy all over. Naw.

> Mike Curtis
> E-mail [email protected]
> Nizkor Web: https//nizkor.org/

What’s youre excusing for posting what you post then?

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[email protected] (Richard Schultz) writes:

And your thinking that such sharing is “apropos” to this newsgroup
sort of gives the lie to your claim that you aren’t an anti-Semite,
doesn’t it?

Richard Schultz [email protected]
Department of Chemistry tel: 972-3-531-8065
Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel fax: 972-3-535-1250

“an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience”

Of course you would imply this. You have little else to rely on.-rb

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

Sorry, Blackmore, I choose my own game.

Mike Curtis
E-mail [email protected]
Nizkor Web: https//nizkor.org/

PS: Perhaps you would care to post evidence that I am directed by “handlers”
and how and why they “dropped” me. This ought to be good….

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Heine gives the world his opinion of Christianity,as well as a description that
shows the Polish Jews to be the carriers of lice even in his day:

In a letter written to one Immanuel Wohlwill on April 1, 1823, Heine writes:

I do call Christianity an idea, but what sort of one? There are dirty families of ideas
who have embedded themselves in the cracks of this old world, in the abandoned
bedsteads of the divine spirit, like the families of lice in the bedsteads of the Polish
Jew. If one stamps out one of these idea-lice, it leaves a stench that can be smelled
for centuries. Such a louse is Christianity, which was crushed some 1800 years ago.

Source: Heine, Briefe, 1:63.

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> [email protected] (Truthsk763) writes:

> Gord McFee, in short, you are correct.
>
> Ed Marks

COMMENT: The comments you appear to have quoted were after the allegation
had been made, so there appears there was a basis for it in the first place. Otherwise,
why would Goldhagen attempt to offer an explanation?–rb

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[email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> A lying anti-Semite if there ever was one.
>
> –YFE

A base name-caller and a lawyer.–rb

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[email protected] (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
In article <[email protected]>, Gord McFee <[email protected]> wrote:

*You* made the assertion. Are you now saying that you made a bald
assertion without having verified it?

Joseph Bellinger, LIE?
pshaaaw.
pshaaaw.

COMMENT: If what you write is true, how would that possibly constitute a lie,
except in your own mind?–rb

Do you, Sir, a man with whom I have Passed the Guinness, do _you_
mean to suggest that there is nothing in the Goldhagen book at my
right hand about Bad German Genes<tm>?

Are you, Sir, perchance the selfsame fellow that doubted El H*ber,
when he said Goldhagen used the phrase “evil german babies?”

Oh _do_ say it isn’t so….. if you don’t, I warn you firmly,
_you_ will buy the Guinness when next I’m in Ottawa.

Bellinger? Hey, he’s about to show you the door, pal… he’s
probably posting that bibliographic citation as I write this –
shucks, I _know_ he is.. that’s why I got the book off the shelf,
and put it next to my UNIX machine… you’ll see.

COMMENT: Enjoy your cheap gloating while you are able. I will
reapond to all of this soon enough.–rb

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
>
> > COMMENT: I do not have the book in front of me. I cannot cite you a
> > particular page or paragraph. I assume you have read the book, so I will
> > ask you if he implicitly remarks that Germans had a peculiar “bad gene” which
> > gave them the predisposition to persecute Jews.
>
> (1) No.
>
> (2) You are playing “revisionist” again. Your statement was that it was
> the “thesis” of the work.
>
> Either back it up or retract.
>
> –YFE
>>>>
Fair enough.–rb

From [email protected] Mon Jan 6 21:32:37 PST 1997
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Subject: Jake LaMotta vs Nizkor–A Lesson in Smear Tactics
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In the six months or so I have been posting on alt. revisionism, I have
been the object of a well-orchestrated and blistering smear campaign.
If I had chosen the easy route, I would be hailed as an invincible champion
of truth by the Nizkorites. Since I cannot bring myself to agree with their
opinions lock, stock, and barrel, I am vigorously attacked in a number of
different ways. Over the past six months I have been accused of the
following by various Nizkor promoters:

a. Being a liar———-Raj Gandhi, Mike Curtis, Chuck Feree, etc.
b. A “denier”……….All of them
c. A “distorter”……Mike Curtis, Van Alstine, McVay, Ostrov
d. An “anti’Semite”…..Yale Edeikin, Ken Lewis, Chuck Feree, Van Alstine, Gandhi, etc.
e. Being an “idiot”, “stupid”…etc…..Mike Curtis, Edeikin, Lewis, Van Alstine, Stein, Nele Abels, Richard Schultz…
f. A thirteen year old (stupid) girl…..Chuck Feree, Hilary Ostrov
g. A troller for young nazi boys….Danny Keren, Feree.
h. A pederast—-Danny Keren, Chuck Feree, John Morris (Implied)
i. A child molester–Chuck Feree, Danny Keren
j. Being a close friend of Mr. Covington and the NSWPP….Lewis, Edeikin, Keren, Van Alstine, Pogroff, McFee
j. Being the stooge for Ernst Zundel…..Keren, McFee
k. Of being a plant for Greg Raven and the IHR and/or other revisionists….
who are allegedly “feeding” me information to post…McVay, Curtis, Lewis, Ostrov
L. Having a “ghost-writer”. Ostrov, Keren, etc.
m. Being a “Nazi-boy”—–Danny Keren, Van Alstine, Lewis…
n. Having a small penis…..Van Alstine (who else?)
o. Having “hang-ups” in my relationships with women….Van Alstine
p. “Blowing smoke out of my ass”…..Van Alstine, who else?

In addition, I have been called other names, such as “asshole, Schwarzmehr, Schwarzesel, scumbag,
lying Nazi apologist….etc. All of which makes for a very interesting and varied list. Now, if I was all of
the above, that would be some infamous accomplishment, I would think.

In addition to the name calling and smear tactics, other methods have been used in an
attempt to deter me from posting on alt. revisionism.
In short, practically every dirty trick in their little bag of filth has been
used in a massive attempt to discredit me and my posts. Other little tricks have been
used to prevent me from posting on a.r.. such as interruption of my ISP, and posting false
posts with fabricated headers. I refer to a series of mysterious alt sex binary posts, which
had headers revealing the senders to have allegedly been Feree and Stein. I have since been
informed by an acquaintance how this particular type of scam is accomplished.

In conclusion, I would like to say that I have posted this record of infamy for the benefit of any
browsers and in order to have a permanent record in Deja News, which may be accessed by
everyone or anyone interested in hiow smear campaigns are orchestrated.

If the slanderers who support Nizkor think that these harassing, mud slinging and name
calling tactics are going to drive me from posting, I can only say that they are very mistaken.
I am not the type to turn tail and run, and these tactics which they so freely employ without
conscience only hardens my resolve to continue the debate until the Holocaust edifice crumbles
of its own accord, like Humpty Dumpty, and all the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able
to put it back together again.

We are in the ring for the duration, and like Jake LaMotta, I refuse to go down for the count.

rblackmore

“The barn is burned down–now we can see the moon.”—-Zen Proverb.

From [email protected] Tue Jan 7 08:36:50 PST 1997
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: The Bad German “Gene”
Date: 6 Jan 1997 21:10:58 GMT
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[email protected] (ChuckF2323) writes:

Shooting Jews in mass quantities, being cruel
about their work, allowing and particitating in mass killings by beating
groups of Jews to death with crowbars and clubs.

COMMENT: Er, this refers to Lithuanians, not Germans. You left one out…
How about Israelis beating Palestinians to death with baseball bats?–rb

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> > > > > [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
>
> > > > > “Marx, Karl Heinrich (1818-1883), German philospher of
> > > > > history….was born, May 5, 181, of Jewish parents in
> > > > > the town of Treves (Trier) in Rhenish Prussia. In 1824
> > > > > his father, a lawyer, … embraced Christianity and all
> > > > > members of the family were baptized as Protestants.”
>
> > > > > p. 993 of Volume 14 of the Encyclopaedia Britannica (1962).
>
> > > > COMMENT: Karl Marx is just what I wrote he was–the son of a Rabbi.
> That
> > > > his father decided to convert to Christianity does not change the fact that
> he
> > > > was a Rabbi. Anything furhter to add to that?–rb
>
> > > Yes. His father was was not a rabbi. Read the above citation.
>
> > Wrong, Yale, according to other sources, in particular, Karl Marx-Satanist–
> > his father was indeed once a rabbi
>
> Can you quote soe of those sources for us?
>
> Or we will be treated to another rendition of the song “Tomorrow?”
>
> –YFE

One source is “Karl Marx-Satanist.” There are others.

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> [email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > In a most remarkable official letter from the Conference of Jewish Schools in
> > Baden, dated 1834, we read the following:
> >
> [snip]
>
> And this has exactly WHAT to do with the Holocaust, Mr.
> Blackmore/Belling/Bellinger?
>
> Sara

> “Benjamin Franklin, the great sage of the colonies and then of the new
> republic, summarized a personal creed that almost literally reproduced
> Deism’s five fundamental beliefs. The first three presidents of the United
> States also held Deistic convictions as is amply evidenced in their
> correspondance.”
> Encyclopedia Britannica

Nice of you to drop in….good-night, Gracie.

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

He produced it despite the fact he wasn’t the one you originally
asked. I don’t suppose this makes you feel foolish?

COMMENT: Not in the least. I look like Fermi compared to your posts.–rb

I happen to know that gratuitous beatings of inmates at Auschwitz
were strictly prohibited. –rb

> > COMMENT: These statements, without factual evidence, are irrelevant and prove nothing.
> > Yet, such beatings were indeed prohibited.–rb

> Keep ignoring all that testimony I key in for you. Well, that’s okay,
> other folks see it even if you continually ignore it.

COMMENT: the testimony was contrived and vengeful fantasy–nothing more.-rb

> Perhaps, maybe, possibly, supposing, and then possibly if only
> Blackmore had a brain. But why not end by name calling, Mr. Giwer.

COMMENT: As YOU just did, Mr. Curtis?–rb
>
> >COMMENT: She could not give orders to the SS. Only to other Aufseherinnen.
>
> THEY WERE SS you idiot!

COMMENT: Name calling again, Mr. Curtis. You’re losing it. Let me clarify for you:
She was NOT permitted to give orders to MALE SS staff members.–rb

> >COMMENT: For beating a thief? She need not fear in that case.–rb

> I see nothing in the testimony about who was being beaten for what
> purpose. Stomp those feet.

COMMENT: Grese testified that she beat prisoners for stealing and refusing to
maintain order. It is your little toes which are stomping.–rb

Your witness never names the alleged victim or
the alleged person who was with her.

Why should this be this required Mr. Belling? Just so that you can toss
one more stumbling block in the path of truth?

COMMENT: It would not be a stumbing bloc had she at least had a NAME for
these alleged victims. Her testimony strikes me as being hysterical and completely
fabricated.–rb

The charges did not require names in all cases. Sorry. Stomp those
feet.

COMMENT: Yes, I am to stomp my feet to your music? I don’t think so…You are
a tone deaf musician at best. Only in the contrived fantasy world of the Holocaust and
wichcraft trials is it unnecessary to provide evidence of capital crimes.–rb

Let’s see. I wonder how many individuals named the victims they saw
blow up in the Oklahoma bombing. Names, Blackmore, were not required
by the charges unless actual names were mentioned.

COMMENT: What a foolish argument. We all know their identities.

You do! Name 10. I don’t even know all the names of people working in
the company I work in.

COMMENT: Pick up a newspaper for once in your life. The names of ALL
the victims were listed, as well as presenting their individual photos over national
televison during the memorial service.–rb

In murder trials
it is customary to produce an identity of an alleged victim.–rb

Mass murder is not a typical murder trial. People were not identified
before they were gassed. They were inspected for the abiltiy to
perform slave labor.

COMMENT: Ah! So we need not produce evidence that mass murders were
committed? How foolish you are making yourself appear.–rb

[snip]

The very idea of little Irma Grese beating people to death with her
cellophane
whip is a joke.

Ah, yes, the “cellophane” whip. But Olga Lengyel simply called it a whip
and noted that Grese “made liberal use” of it and that the prisoners’
“shrieks of pain” and “spurts of blood made her smile.” (Lengyel, _Fiv
Chimneys_, pp.103-104.) And Grese also beat her with pistol and fists as
well:

COMMENT: Olga Lengyel is a liar, plain and simple. And this is not all she lied about.–rb

Stomp those feet!!!

COMMENT: Expose those lies!!!–rb

[snipped more foot stomping]

Did you carry a stick at Auschwitz? — Yes, an ordinary walking-stick.

Did you carry a whip at Auschwitz? — Yes, made out of cellophane in
the weaving factory in the camp. It was a very light whip, but if I
hit somebody with it, it would hurt. After eight days Kommandant
Kramer prohibited whips, but we nevertheless went on using them, I
never carried a rubber truncheon.

Sorry, Blackmore, but she carried a stick and a whip and she admitted
using them to beat internees. Next question?

COMMENT: So? A cellophane whip…ow, Mr. Peebles,,,,,no so hard!

Cellophane will cut you, Blackmore.

And a stick….so what?

Note the hand waving folks.

I dare say she needed something to protect herself
with…in American prisons they generally have billy clubs, mace, guns….but
little Irma Grese is supposed to walk around unarmed and unprotected in the midst
of thousands of prisoners….don’t think so, chum.–rb

Please don’t get coy with me.

I’m bored so snip.

COMMENT: Got to you again, eh? Is that the stomping of little toes I hear?

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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> : From an anonymous pamphlet written by a converted Jew in 1749:
>
> If it’s anonymous, how do you know the author was a converted
> Jew? How do you know it wasn’t written, say, the pope’s
> mistress or illegitimate son?

> d.A.

I don’t. The book is regarded by most authorities as having been published
by a converted Jew. There were many of them at the time, you see.

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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> :
> : My opinion is that I do not believe Olga. Her account of the beating,
> : as well as her other descriptions of the camp, all read as contrived.–rb
> : She offers no proof of a beating by Grese. She has no scars to offer.
> : She never testified at Grese’s tiral…In other words she is a totally
> : worthless witness.–rb

> So, what proof of torture did Hoess and/or Eichamnn offer?
> Where are their scars and weals?
> They never testified at the trials of their alleged
> torturers.

> d.A.

COMMENT: Fine. Let’s do it your way, and throw out the testimony of all three.
IMO, they are all worthless anyway.–rb

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> [email protected] (Truthsk763) writes:
> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Chuck for tha doc krock
>
> >Gee, doc, I’m sorry to have left you out of my comments about the
> >asshole blackmore. I really think he is worse than you and that’s the
> >truth, but you make me want to puke on your shoes too!
>
> >Chuck
>
> Interestingly enough, Martin Luther, widely credited with starting the
> Protestant Reformation and an advocate of individual conscience, not only
> hated Jews and Catholics, but even hated other Protestants who did not
> agree with him.
>
> He was a bitter rival of Ulrich Zwingli, who was one of the forerunners of
> Calvinism and mercilessly persecuted Anabaptists and other Protestant
> sects who did not believe in infant baptism or were pacifists.
>
> His rantings on the Jews, including the suggestion that they be put in
> labor camps because they would not convert to Christianity were widely
> distributed by the Nazis and provided them with inspiration and
> justification for their actions.
>
> Ed Marks

And what else can you tell us about Martin Luther, Mr. marks?

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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> If genuine, this quote, and others posted by “rblackmore”, indeed
> prove that this revolting type of racial hatred had penetrated
> German society long before the Holocaust took place. Therefore,
> these quotes, (if genuine), only serve to harm lame-brained Nazis
> such as Mr. “rblackmore”, who seek to deny the Holocaust.
>
> Similarly, “rblackmore” proved himself to be not only a pathological
> liar [*], but also to be a revolting antisemite himself; see his
> antisemitic “poem” sent to a neo-Nazi mailing list, and his posting
> of articles with titles such as “For the benefit of Mr. Kike”.

> -Danny Keren.
>
> [*] – among the numerous lies posted to this newsgroup by “rblackmore”,
> one of the most outstanding ones is his claim, made in the
> article with Message-Id:<[email protected]>.
> “rblackmore” is trying to “prove” that the “SS punished
> camp commandants who killed Jews”:
>
> # Not at all, the SS themselves executed Goeth, Koch, and
> # other camp commanders who abused the prisoners under their
> # charge.
>
> unfortunately for “rblackmore”, Goeth was not executed by the
> SS, but was tried and executed by the Poles after the war. Koch
> was tried and executed by the SS for theft and for murdering
> two non-Jewish inmates.

COMMENT: Ho-Hum. It’s getting old, Danny. The Old Holocaust just ain’t what
it used to be…..

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Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:

Mr. Curtis posted long excerpts from the evidence that demonstrated that
your portrayal of it was wrong–pure and simple. Your reaction was
simply to shrug your shoulders and dismiss it.

COMMENT: This is your opinion and you are entitled to express it. However, I
disagree with it and do not feel that Mr. Curtis did anything of the kind. It is not
my intention to post paragraph after paragraph of what I consider to be essentially
irrelevant material. My intent is to concentrate only on those areas which appear
to be inconsistent or fabricated testimony, or else accusations never corroborated
by independent fact.–rb

No reasons–no analysis
of what might have been wrong with Mr. Curtis’ points–no, just, “I
don’t agree”. You make an assertion and when someone *proves* it is
wrong, you simply “disagree”, like a petulant child.

COMMENT: If I say I do not agree, then that is clearly an expression of my
opinion, carefully made after I have read all the testimony pertinent to the
case. This should be clear enough and I do not understand why you seem to be
having problems with it.–rb

> That is of course your right. But you have claimed you post here for
> the lurkers (I don’t believe that for a minute, but you have said it).
> I hate to break the news to you, but most rational lurkers are going to
> look at Mr. Curtis’ post and yours, and dismiss you as wrong and
> unethical.
>
> Mr. Stein’s point is rock solid as well (what a word play!!). You claim
> to have evidence to back your allegations, but never post it. And when
> you do post alleged support, examination usually shows it to be wrong,
> as the Goldhagen “quote” so clearly demonstrates.

COMMENT: I always post whatever I say I will post. If it takes a while, it
takes a while and that is all there is to it. –rb
>
> You are losing Mr. Blackmore. Just like Giwer did before he sank into
> his current fit of obscenity, forgery, cowardice and abuse. What are
> *you* going to do?
>
COMMENT: I will say this: if Mr. Giwer was treated as others have treated me
in this newsgroup, I can understand why he became irate. You never seem to
notice, but, in case you really haven’t, it seems to be your aquaintances from
Nizkor and supporters who engage in fits of obscenity (Van Alstine, Lewis, Feree)
forgery (Like the people who posted false headers from alt sex binaries), cowardice,
(I don’t know what you are referring here, but it is a pretty stupid turkey which raises
its head at a turkey shoot, and abuse….hmmmm, try Feree, Van Alstine, Lewis, Gandhi,
and many others. I am curious to see if you will acknowledge the truth of my statement
here. I have demonstrated over and over again that I am capable of reasoned debate
without resort to name-calling and smear tactics, but your acquaintances don’t seem
to get the idea that they should refrain from such behavior. Actually, I think it merely
promotes the cause of revisionism.–rb

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: For the Benefit of Mr. Kike
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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> :
> : , you obviously failed to “get the point”, as did
> : Mike Stein…….boiling the water without suitable
> : containers for 60,000 people
>
> Just a naive question comes to mind.
> If there were insufficient “suitable
> containers” at Belsen to boil water for
> the inmates, how were the inmates ever
> offered warm food, such as soup?
>
> Or are you suggesting that at Belsen
> the inmates were not provided with the
> minimum requirements for treatment of
> prisoners?
>
> d.A.

COMMENT: In case you really cannot appreciate the factors involved,
let me explain it to you briefly…..tens of thousands of seriously ill people
were unceremoniously dumped into Belsen during the last weeks of the war…
obviously the camp administration was incapable of handling the excessive
demands these massive fluxes of humanity required…That is why Kramer
hastily made arrangements to surrender the camp asap. This is like saying
that you live in a small village and there is an earthquake, and hundreds of
people descend upon YOUR home for care and sustenance…..and later
you are prosecuted and convicted if you could not feed and harbor them
all. Who would you look after first? Your own, or the hundreds clamoring
for your assistance? You cannot give what is beyond your means.
The fact is, the original inmates in Belson were in good
condition when the British liberated the camp…it was to them that Kramer
first tended.–rb

From [email protected] Tue Jan 7 13:08:31 PST 1997
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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

> > What did I say?

> >What about this:
> >
> >”So on all accounts, this quote is full of crap.”
>
> I didn’t say that. I don’t use these phrases.
>
> Is it your methods to attribute statements made by others to those who
> didn’t say them? Of course you do.
>
> Mike

COMMENT: Please try to refrain from placing words in my mouth. My answer
is of course I don’t. I was under the impression that you had made the comment.

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Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:

Let’s look at both of those elements. “..after I read the trial
proceedings”. I note that you have not dealt with a great deal of
testimony from that trial posted verbatim by Mike Curtis. You have
simply dismissed it, in one case saying, “I simply don’t believe it” and
in another “Because I say so”. That hardly qualifies as an “educated
opinion” arrived at after doing anything, but rather sounds more like
the denier’s trick of distorting until the absolute truth is posted for
everyone to see and then dismiss it with a wave of the hand.

“…researched the manner in which Germans were usually treated after
capture”. Your research in this respect has once again been nothing
more than you saying that they were always tortured and beaten and
forced into confessions. You have supplied not a shred of evidence that
that was “usually” the case. In fact, when testimony by both Hoess and
Eichmann is supplied that indicates they at least were not treated that
way, you once again simply dismiss it because it doesn’t agree with your
position. Hardly research.

[deleted]

A cheap shot, Mr. Blackmore. You dismiss evidence with a wave of your
hand, saying, “It is not acceptable because I don’t believe it”, and
> > then you ask when *we* have acknowledged an obvious truth? Rings hollow
> > > to me.

COMMENT: It is not acceptable to ME. I have higher standards for evaluating the
facts than other people appear to have.-rb

> You have been given lots of information to deal with. You simply refuse
> to deal with it.

> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time

COMMENT: I can only reply that your opinions have no basis in fact, IMO.
I have read through the testimony at the Belsen trial and I must simply call
a spade a spade. Most of the accusers come off as liars, or exaggerators,
at best. The Germans appear to be giving truthful testimony. I say this
simply because I have read through the transcripts and that is how I view
it. It is my opinion and I have never claimed anything more. If you or Mr.
Curtis get different feelings from reading the same text, you are both entitled
to your opinons. I simply happen to disagree with them, and I post my reasons
why I believe the way I do. As to the German torture allegations, I believe I have
posted enough evidence in the past regarding this accusation, and I firmly believe
it to be true. Jewish Blood Libel and German Gas Chamber Libel both appear to be plain
old fashioned HOAXES……

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From: [email protected]
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In the report of his trip to Poland (1822) Heine writes:

A sense of horror overcomes me when I remember how, beyond Meseritz, I
first saw a Polish village inhabited mainly by Jews. The Wadzeck Weekly
Chronicle, cooked into a porridge, could not have nauseated me any more
than those rag-bag figures of dirt; and the high-minded speech of a third-
former enthusiastic about gymnastics and Fatherland could not have martyred
my ears so excruciatingly as the Polish-Jewish jargon. However, this disgust
was soon replaced by pity, after I observed these individuals at closer range
and saw the pig-sty like holes in which they lived, spoke bad German, prayed,
haggled–and were miserable……

But they evidently did not progress with the rest of Europeean culture and their
spiritual world sank into a morass of unedifying superstition, which was forced into
them by a sophistic scholastic in a thousand miraculous forms…..I still prefer the
Polish Jew with his dirty fur, with his lousy beard, with his garlic breath, and his
bad German to many others in the state-paper majesty.

COMMENT: Aside from his stated preference, Heine’s description of the Polish Jews
seems to parallel that of Hitler’s re the Viennese Jews, described in Mein Kampf, almost
a century later:

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[email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
[email protected] writes:
[email protected] (Ken Lewis) writes:

{Big snip of Mr. Bellingers anti-semitism}

COMMENT: Oh, yes, Mr. Yale…anyone who disagrees with you is “anti-Semitic”…
how childish!–rb

I do not know Mr. Covington.–rb

No. You just exchange anti-Semitic accusations andpleasantries with a
total stranger.

COMMENT: I have exchanged pleasantries with you before. i see no reason for me
to be rude to this man.- And you can CAN it with the anti-Semtic crap. It doesn’t work
here. Find another excuse for your inability to answer my arguments.–rb

> > through alt. revisionism on his own. I have my reasons for posting
> > this, and my non existant alleged anti-Semitism has nothing to do
> > with it.
>
> You anti-Semitism has been demonstrated by your own words.
>
COMMENT: You and your lies have been demonstrated by yours. –rb

> > If anyone has demonstarated anti-Semitism, it is Lasselle.
> > Now, the reason for the quote? It is simply one among many I
> > intend to post in the future to completely confound the arguments
> > of Daniel Goldhagen and his ridiculous thesis that the Germans have
> > a “bad gene” which predisposed them to anti-Semitism. Consequently,
> > these quotes are now VERY relevant to the Holocaust, thanks to your
> > buddy Goldhagen opening the door wide enough for me to stick my foot
> > in……rb
>
> it’s a foot riddled with bulletholes. There is no such “thesis” in
> Goldhagen’s book. You are just lying again.

COMMENT: Right. From the king of lies himself…..

“No poet ever interpreted nature as freely as a lawyer interprets truth.–Jean Giraudoux

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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Richard
> Schultz) wrote:
>
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >: Most of the Germans were convicted on the basis of no concrete
> >: evidence, consequently I have an authority to refer to–the
> >: kangaroo court itself.–rb
> >
> >Does this include the Germans convicted at the Einsatzgruppen trial?
>
> While we’re at it, does this include the convictions of members of
> Order Police Battalion 101 at Hamburg? The Treblinka trials at
> Dusseldorf? Were those “kangaroo courts?”
>
> —
> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta <Scripture veteris capiunt exempla futuri>
> —
> The Nizkor Project | https//nizkor.org/

COMMENT: I would need to research those cases. What about the
Maidanek trials in Duesseldorf?

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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
>
SNIP

COMMENT: Briefly I will state that I accept the admission of the man who
captured and beat Hoess into making a confession as valid evidence as far
as I am concerned. He boasted about it. He admitted it.

As to Power, he will receive no apology from me as his behavior towards myself
and others does not warrant any such civilities.–rb

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> Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> Mike Curtis wrote:
> >
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > Now that the anti-Semitic denier has found two cases (without page
> > number to the source), this has what connection to the Holocaust?
> > Do you want to discuss witchcraft testimony and the psychology of 17th
> > century paranoia or do you want to discuss what THIS newsgroup is most
> > concerned with.
>
> Mike, you have to understand that they have to discuss things that are
> irrelevant to the fact of the Holocaust, since they are getting flayed
> so badly on matters that *are* relevant to the fact of the Holocaust.
>
> [rest deleted]

> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time

COMMENT: Mr. McFee, he ASKED me to provide the reference. Also, i don’t
mind discussing the Holocaust all day long, and why is it that I just don’t get
that feeling you described to Mr. Curtis? Anyway, i am sure he is appreciative
of your moral support. i would be.

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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Troy Varange) wrote:

snip
>>>>
COMMENT: Indeed, Mr. Morris’s description is correct. i have a copy for sale if
you are interested. Send me an email for the info.

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> [email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) writes:

Now, If Mr. Belling wishes to discuss _why_ I consider his puerile claims
worthy of nothing but the breifest dismissals, I suggest he:

1. Provide credible and authorative references to substantive evidence
that Kramer was “mistreated and tortured” into confessing.

2. Provide credible and authotative references to substantive evididence
that Kramer denied the existance of homicadal gas chambers at Auchwitz
II-Birkenau.
3. See a mental health professional in regard to his delusional state of mind.

For those interested in proof of Mr. Belling’s increasingly irrelevant
Nazi apologia, intellectual dishonesty, anti-Semitism, and outright lies,
please visit:

COMMENT: If I ever decide to see a mental health professional about the state
of my mind, I will be sure to avoid the one you are seeing…he/she is only making
you worse.–rb

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
[email protected] wrote:

[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

Sorry, Blackmore, I choose my own game.

Mike Curtis
E-mail [email protected]
Nizkor Web: https//nizkor.org/

PS: Perhaps you would care to post evidence that I am directed by “handlers”
and how and why they “dropped” me. This ought to be good….

My opinion, based on what I read. Based on the sloppy confused
attributes and lousy cropping of material. There’s what I see as
different styles. Frankly, I’ll handle whoever handles you. Ask Gord
McFee, he seems to have the real poop. My claims are only supposition,
but they sure triggered your defenses didn’t they?

HeHe.

Comment: I don’t know why you are chuckling….I am not the least impressed
by your opinions, wrong as they are.–rb

And you are right to say that such suppostions have nothing to do with
holocaust history. I’m simply bored with your lack of integrity.

Mike Curtis

And I am bored with your paranoia and lack of honesty.–rb

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[email protected] (Rubin Friedman) writes:

([email protected]) writes:
In his “The Baths of Lucca”, Heinrich Heine provides a description of
one Moses Lump (“rogue” or “scoundrel”) which parallels Nazi descriptions
of Jewish life a century later:

“There lives in Hamburg……..a man called Moses Lump, also called Moses
Luempchen, or Luempchen, for short. He runs around during the entire week
through wind and weather with his pack on his back, in order to earn his couple
of marks. When he comes home on Friday evening, he lays dwon his bundle and
all his cares, and sits down at his table with his misshapen wife and yet more misshapen
daughter, partakes with them of fish cooked in garlic sauce, sings the most splendid
psalms of King David, rejoices wholeheartedly at the exodus of the children of Israel
from Egypt, rejoices also that all the miscreants who had behaved wickedly toward them
died in the end, that King Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar, Haman, Antiochus, Titus, and all
such people are dead, while Luempchen is still alive and partaking of fish with his wife
and child……”

SOURCE: Heine, the Tragic Satirist, Prawer, Cambridge University Press, 1961, p. 192.

Could you give a parallel quote from the Nazis – just to compare.

Also, this does not deny the Holocaust; you just seem to be trying to
reinforce the notion that there was a long history of denigration of the
Jew in German – before the Nazis.

In any case, the text can be read as a satire of a particular type of person.

What does this have to do with the study of the Holocaust or revising its
history?

“Love work; despise power for power’s sake; and don’t get too close to the
government” – Ethics of the Fathers

Comment: I cannot give a parallel quote from the Nazis……unless we revert to
Julius Streicher or the narration from “The Eternal Jew”. Undoubtedly, there would
be similarities.–rb

And, yes, you seem to be correct in stating that there was a long history of
denigration of the Jews in germany. My point, however, was that Heine was
himself a Jew.–rb

The barn is burned down; now we can see the moon.—Zen Proverb

And I believe that the history of the Jewish people must be examined in its
totality; cumulatively, if we wish to understand the Holocaust.–rb

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> [email protected] (william c anderson) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> : > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
>
> : > Only “blackmore” would describe an American citizen being a paid
> : > agent of the Third Reich in 1942 “an honest living.”
>
> : And what would you call the Rosenberg’s paid treason to the United States?
> : Or Pollards sale of high security U.S. documents to Israel? Is this less
> : than the honest living Ms. Dilling pursued?–rb
>
> Uh…in case you didn’t notice, Mr. Blackmore, Pollard is in jail and the
> Rosenbergs were executed. Why are you trying to change the subject?
>
> Bill
>>>>
And Dilling is dead. I asked two questions which I think are pertinent considering
Yalle Edeikin’s accusations against Ms. Dilling.–rb

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[email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
[email protected] writes:
[email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

This is typically the answer that you liberals always give. Where
is there proof that Ms. Dilling was a paid agent of Nazi Germany.

It was produced during her trial in 1942.

What was Ms. Dilling tried for? Hate speech?
Doc Tavish

For being a paid agent of the nazi government.

Well, at least she made an honest living!

Only “blackmore” would describe an American citizen being a paid
agent of the Third Reich in 1942 “an honest living.”

And what would you call the Rosenberg’s paid treason to the United States?
Or Pollards sale of high security U.S. documents to Israel? Is this less than the
honest living Ms. Dilling pursued?–rb

Here we have the typical technique of “blackmore” an anti-Semite who
never met a nazi he did not like. First he describes treason as an “honest living”
and then tries to smear others.

This foul little liar cannot show a single instance where I (or anybody
else) has attempted to justify the acts of either the Rosenbergs or Pollard.
Yet he
will imply that.

When class was passed out “blackmore” was otherwise occupied.
He’s nothing but another Giwer.

–YFE

COMMENT: Well, Mr. Lawyer, where in the above did I say say that you have attempted
to justify the acts of either the Rosenbergs or Pollard? What I wrote was:

“And what would you call the Rosenberg’s paid treason to the United States?
Or Pollards sale of high security U.S. documents to Israel?

And how did you reply to these two simple questions:

“This foul little liar……nothing but a Giwer……”

Hmmm, slander and name-calling. Keep up the good work. By the way,
what is a “Giwer”?—rb

PS: You also wrote that I “never met a nazi I didn’t like”, which is some sort
of grotesque perversion of Will Rogers famous comment. Let me ask you
this:

Have you ever met a Nazi you did like?—rb

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Derek Bell) writes:

> > Ah, so you admit being an antisemite?
>
> > COMMENT: I admit no such thing, because I am not.–rb
>
> Where have I heard this before.
>
> “I want to emphasize here that I never personally hated the Jews.”
>
> Rudolph Hoess (1947)
>
> > Do you still insist that “kike”
> > is not an antisemitic term?
>
> > COMMENT: yes. It could be used as an anti-Semitic term, depending upon the
> > usage. My use of it, OBVIOUSLY, when taken in context with the Beatle’s
> > tune, shows it was meant as satire. if you fail to see it, it is because you
> > find it convenient to do so.–rb
>
> If he fails to do so it is becasue you are lying again.
>
> –YFE
>>>>
Unlike you, I do not lie.

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> [email protected] (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >Your name? We don’t know your real name. How the hell can we slander a
> >cipher, a nym?
>
> The name is Bellinger, Joseph Bellinger. He has a bookstore in a
> post office box, and you will find his residence listed on 411 and
> Switchboard.
>
> See also http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/bellinger.joseph Broken link
> for the evidence supporting the conclusions that he is, among
> other things, an antisemite, liar, and nazi apologist.
>
> —
> Nizkor Canada | https://nizkor.org
> ———————–| Remember John Hron
> |————————————–
> https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hron-john/ Broken link

Appearances can be deceiving.

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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck writes:
>
> Stay away from our side. STAY FAR, FAR AWAY!!!
>
> All we need is for this turkey to join forces with our elite group.
> ‘Course he can’t do it, ’cause he don’t know tha pass word.

I think I do, but I can’t repeat it in polite society.–rb
>
> Chuck:

Not on my watch, pal. You would be walking very funny> You don’t want
> that now do you?
Comment: No, then I would resemble you.-rb

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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> “I usually used to beat them on the shoulders, but
> there were times when, because of the numbers involved,
> they were beaten on any part of the body that happened
> to be easiest”.
>
> Irma Grese, on how she used to beat Auschwitz inmates
> with a stick; “The Belsen Trial”, p. 713.
>
> -Danny Keren.

According to testimony given at the Belsen Trial, Ms. Grese admitted only
to striking inmates who were thieves, stealing food from other inmates, or those
who refused to order and discipline, much as in our own penal sustem.

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From: [email protected]
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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> > Chuck Ferree wrote:
>
> > There may or may not be such a thing as “The Bad German Gene.”
> > However, there definately is a “bad gene” involved with people like
> > blackmore, who continously post anti-Jewish material on this and other
> > sites. alt. rev. isn’t about the Jews per se, or at least it shouldn’t
> > be used as a place for bigots, racists, and the like to seek out ways
> > to persuade others that Jewish people are somehow bad and deserve what
> > they got from being Jews in Europe all these years.
>
> > blackmore makes me ill with his pro-Nazi pro-Hitler- pro-Holocaust
> > (maybe it didn’t happen, but it should have) bullshit. Of course
> > blackmore isn’t the only racist, bigot and generally idiotic person
> > who does this, but he is one of the worst. What’s even worse is that
> > this turkey has the audacity to tell us that he isn’t a racist, bigot
> > asshole. All one need do is read one or two of his silly posts and
> > it’s very obvious. I can’t stop people like blackmore, but if I could
> > I would. I don’t have hate in my heart for the Germans-Austrians or
> > for the Russians for that matter, but blackmore and his ilk, should be
> > glad that we don’t live in the same town.
>
> > Blackmore: blah, blah, blah! Trash
>
> > COMMENT: Chuck Pereena Dog Chow has had his say. Now, will someone
> > please take him out for his nightly walk?==rb
>
> No one has the time. We’re all too busy readinmg Goldhagen’s book
> and *surprise* finding that the thesis has nothing to do with a “bad German
> gene.”
>
> –YFE

Ask your friend Van Alstine where that alleged autopsy and toxicological
report is from Dachau.–rb

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In a most remarkable official letter from the Conference of Jewish Schools in
Baden, dated 1834, we read the following:

It is a well-known fact that in earlier times a degenerate so-called Jewish-German dialect
established itself. It is characterized by, among other things, incorrect, often disgusting
pronunciation and intonation, incorrect constructions, admixture of corrupt Hebrew words,
(by which the Holy Language is often dishonored…)…the constant use of oaths, etc.

The greater part of the Jewish community has, throughacquiring education, abandoned this,
and only a part of the lower classes has preserved it. Experience teaches us not only that
such individuals are the object of mockery on the part of other religions but also that they
create disgust in their coreligionists.

Source:

Der Eintritt der Juden ins deutsche Buergertum: Eine Dokumentation.
Diaspora Research Institute, Tel Aviv, 1972

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[email protected] (Michael P. Stein) writes:

> I always have a suspicion of people who claim to speak for everyone.
> They have bizarre complexes.–rb

COMMENT: Of course I had already anticipated that you would post the above,
that is why I wrote: I “doubt” whether “many” people….nice try though, but
you are far away from check-mate.–rb

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[email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

Providing evidence of the crimes of the nazis to “blackmore” is like
feeding ipecac to an infant. A vomitous spew results.

COMMENT: And you appear to have diarrhea of the mouth. At any rate,
Himmler WAS incorruptible, much as Robespierre fashioned himslef to be,
and I can only retort that it was the Naizs who
accused the Jews of fleecing others and acquiring their property under
questionable pretenses. If you seek documentary proof, run to Nikook
Central and look it up. Perhaps they will provide a cavity filled
with information for you to begin poking your nose into.–rb

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
>
> > We asked for the citation from Goldhagen so that we could share in the
> > knowlege and the actually possibility that _you_ might not be sreading
> > lies your handlers are sending you. At this point you have seen the
> > many requests for the page number. We have seen nada from you.
>
> > What’s the page number?
>
> > COMMENT: How could someone with such a limited intelligence decide
> whether
> > I am very intellectual or not? Very strange…..I will get around to posting the
> relevant
> > portions from Goldhagen’s bookin due time. Remember, patience is a virtue.–rb
>
> Where have we heard that before?
>
> When has there ever been a real response?
>
> Go buy the book. Read it. Come back with either a citation or an
> admission that, once again you were fabricating.
>
> –YFE

I never fabrication, and yes, we shall address this issue again soon.-rb

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> [email protected] (ChuckF2323) writes:
> >>>>
> COMMENT: How could someone with such a limited intelligence decide
> whether
> I am very intellectual or not? Very strange…..I will get around to
> posting the relevant
> portions from Goldhagen’s bookin due time. Remember, patience is a
> virtue.–rb
>
> I’ll buy the beers all around if blackmore proves this crock.
>
> Chuck Ferree

Does this offer apply to me as well?–rb

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> > > > > > This is typically the answer that you liberals always give. Where is
> > > > > > there proof that Ms. Dilling was a paid agent of Nazi Germany.
>
> > > > > It was produced during her trial in 1942.
>
> > > > What was Ms. Dilling tried for? Hate speech?
> > > > Doc Tavish
>
> > > For being a paid agent of the nazi government.
>
> > Well, at least she made an honest living!
>
> Only “blackmore” would describe an American citizen being a paid
> agent of the Third Reich in 1942 “an honest living.”
>
> –YFE

And what would you call the Rosenberg’s paid treason to the United States?
Or Pollards sale of high security U.S. documents to Israel? Is this less than the
honest living Ms. Dilling pursued?–rb

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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Chuck Ferree writes:
>
> Get real, blackmor, you, giwer, moran, tavish, have already lost the
> battle for truth. Not one of you guys have ever proven a single
> historical fact about WW-II, The Holocaust, the number of books you
> possess, or have read, whether or not you molest lil boys, (girls)
>
> You are all born losers and you lose. Face it, you have lost.

> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> > > > > [email protected] wrote:
>
> deleted

> > COMMENT: Strange, Mr. McFee, Nizkor devotees use the exact same
> > tactics you describe above….one of us is not seeing things clearly…..

> Now that is funny. Here we have a real proven idiot saying that his
> tactics are copied by those of us who don’t see eye to eye with the
> liar deniers.
>
> Pitiful stuff. Pitiful.
>
> Chuck

If we are such losers, and our arguments so poor, you would not have to resort to
slander and filthy innuendoes to prove your point—and speaking of points—go stick
yours innuendo.

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> [email protected] (John Morris) writes:
> In <[email protected]>, [email protected] (tom moran)
> wrote:

> >Brought to you by a synagogue.
>
> Which to the Jew-hater, Tom Moran, is sufficient to dismiss it without
> comment while spamming the newsgroup with old lies.

> John Morris <[email protected]>
> at University of Alberta <Scripture veteris capiunt exempla futuri>
> —
> The Nizkor Project | https//nizkor.org/
>
>>>>
What is this all about?

From [email protected] Wed Jan 8 19:03:11 PST 1997
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I am always pleased to come up with a book from the period……Here are a few
excerpts from the book, “Riddle of the Reich”, by Wythe Williams. By examining
the claims made in the book, we may see the alleged “Genesis of Genocide” already
in the making. The information comes from Chapter 11, entitled, “Jew’s in Hitler’s
Europe”.

Here is what the author writes:

First, a revelation:

“It is true that in the shortage of skilled men now experienced by the Nazi
war machine, the authorities in the Reich are beginning to search the concentration
camps for Jewish doctors, engineers, and mechanics. Since they are needed the
ban against the Jews is lifted. They are given jobs, fairly decent treatment, and a
special badge with the letters WNJ, for Wirtschaftlich Notwendige Juden, that is,
“Economically needed Jews”.

But now, for the nitty gritty:

“How many Jews are there under Hitler?”

Before the Blitzkrieg in the West, there were 2,500,000 Jews living
under Hitler’s yoke as actual or potential refugees. This number was
made up of about 1,000,000 Jews in Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia,
and Western Poland, and some 1,500,000 Jews in Central Poland, occupied
by the Nazis but not yet formally incorporated in the Reich. In addition to these,
about 1,000,000 Jews in Rumania and 600,000 Jews in Hungary were living under
restrictive laws and threats of massacre or expulsion inspired by Hitler. Altogether,
about 6,600,000 Jews were living directly or indirectly under the hostile shadow
of Nazism.

After the Blitzkrieg and its success, nearly 700,000 Jews of Western Europe were
added to Hitler’s victims. These include about 400,000 Jews in France, 150,000
in Holland, 120,000 in Belgium, and 10,000 in Denmark and Norway…..By grabbing
Eastern Poland, the three Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania), and the Rumanian
provinces of Bukovina and Bessarabia, Stalin added to the Soviet population some
3 million Jews. He persecutes, arrests, and exiles many of them to Noth Russia and
Siberia, not as Jews but as middle class bourgeoisie. The fact remains that many of them
are worse off than they had been before Stalin seized those regions. The net result is that
to scores of thousands of Jews, Stalin is as bad…….as Hitler.

COMMENT: According to this author was have the following figures:

2,500,000 Before the Blitzkrieg
1,000,000 Rumanien Jews
600,000 Hungarian Jews
400,000 French Jews
150,000 Dutch Jews
120,000 Belgian Jews
10,000 Danish and Norwegian Jews
____________________________
4,780,000 total

How the author arrived at 6,600,000 is a mystery to me, unless he was including
Jews from Italy and other countries.

So, let us accept this figure of 6,600,000 for argument’s sake.

Now, we must add to that the numbers of Jews listed in the Soviet Union
and under their control, which was 3,000,000. That adds up now
to 9,900,000. The author states that the figure of 3 million jews refers
to those people who were added to the Soviet Union’s jewish population.
However, he fails to provide the figures for the Soviet Union.

A curious statement is that Stalin was persecuting the Jews and sending them
deep into Soviet territory….The question is open as to how many this involved.

We know that less than 25% of france’s Jews were deported during the war.
We know that hundreds of thousands of Jews fled from the Germans in the East.
We know that the Soviet union added to its own Jewish population by some
3 million, according to this author. We know that many of them were sent to
the interior of Russia by Stalin. We know that thousands of Jews fled deeper into
the Soviet Union at the time of the Nazi invasion. The question is–how many, and
where….

According to the author, if 6,600,000 Jews were under the control of the Nazis,
and if 6,000,000 were killed, that would leave just 600,000 survivors/ however, that
figure does not include the figures given for the Soviet Union. We can see the problems
that are created by all this juggling. The figure of 6,000,000 murdered Jews seems to be
based on a myth.

Finally, the author states his opinions regarding a final settlement of the Jewish
“problem” in Europe with the following suggestion:

“Therefore, a distinct territory, such as Palestine, will have to be allotted to the
prospective Jewish emigrants to be set up as a predominantly Jewish State.
nly then would Jewish emigration from the zone of anti-Semitism be prevented
>from resulting in the wholesale transportation of the Jewish problem into
new countries.

COMMENT: Well, there it is, in a nut-shell. it seems that the old adage,
“All roads lead to Rome” has been replaced…they now all lead to Tel Aviv–rb.

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[email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) writes:
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Fafner13) wrote:

# Grese testified that the gas chambers were rumored.

“I knew that prisoners were gassed” – Irma Grese,
in “The Belsen Trial”, p. 251.

-Danny Keren.

Now, revert to her earlier testimony and show everyone here what a
deceitful man you are.

You first, Mr. Belling. By all means.

OK. She “knew” they were “gassed” based upon “rumors” told
to her by prisoners. Some of you people are so pathetic that you
cannot even bring yourselves to admit what should be obvious to
most people by now–that this young lady did not deserve a sentence
of death. –rb

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> [email protected] (Richard Schultz) writes:

> “I seem to smell a peculiar and a fishlike smell.”

COMMENT: That must be emanating from the abode of
Moses Lump……

As to the Einsatzgruppen……many of their reports were exaggerated.
Yet, it was up to German courts to try them for any criminal conduct–not
the allies.

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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> : On 2 Jan 1997 11:49:13 GMT, [email protected] wrote:
> :
> : >As we all know, Karl Marx was a Jew, the son of a rabbi. Here are some
> : >of his comments in a letter to Friedrich Engel, his provider:
> :
> “Marx, Karl Heinrich (1818-1883), German philospher of
> history….was born, May 5, 181, of Jewish parents in
> the town of Treves (Trier) in Rhenish Prussia. In 1824
> his father, a lawyer, … embraced Christianity and all
> members of the family were baptized as Protestants.”
>
> p. 993 of Volume 14 of the Encyclopaedia Britannica (1962).
>
> Are you suggesting that Marx was, in fact, the illegitimate
> son of Rabbi Reichorn?
>
> d.A.

COMMENT: Karl Marx is just what I wrote he was–the son of a Rabbi. That
his father decided to convert to Christianity does not change the fact that he
was a Rabbi. Anything furhter to add to that?–rb

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> [email protected] (Derek Bell) writes:
> —–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—–
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> [email protected] writes:
> >And why was the trial fair, one might ask? Because Mark V. Anal Stink says so!
>
> Losing again, eh?
>
> Derek
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> PGPkey: http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dbell/key.asc| (Page doesn`t exist) – Homer Simpson

COMMENT: If this is your prerequisite for determining that I am “losing”, then
your colleagues have lost over and over again so many times that I have lost
count.–rb

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[email protected] (Rubin Friedman) writes:

([email protected]) writes:
In a most remarkable official letter from the Conference of Jewish Schools in
Baden, dated 1834, we read the following:

It is a well-known fact that in earlier times a degenerate so-called Jewish-German dialect
established itself. It is characterized by, among other things, incorrect, often disgusting
pronunciation and intonation, incorrect constructions, admixture of corrupt Hebrew words,
(by which the Holy Language is often dishonored…)…the constant use of oaths, etc.

The greater part of the Jewish community has, throughacquiring education, abandoned this,
and only a part of the lower classes has preserved it. Experience teaches us not only that
such individuals are the object of mockery on the part of other religions but also that they
create disgust in their coreligionists.

Source:

Der Eintritt der Juden ins deutsche Buergertum: Eine Dokumentation.
Diaspora Research Institute, Tel Aviv, 1972

Besides being totally subjective, value laden and wrong, what does this
stuff have to do with the price of tea in the Holocaust?

> Maybe it’s just another example of Holocaust denial “research”.

> “Love work; despise power for power’s sake; and don’t get too close to the
> government” – Ethics of the Fathers

No, it is simply what it is-a historical document by the Conference of Jewish
Schools.–rb

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
>
SNIP

COMMENT: As a matter of fact, I have indeed read the entire book.
I will not have the insolence to state whether you have read it or not.
However, after reading the entire book, it is my opinion based upon my
evaluation of the evidence and the testimony and the “findings of the
court” that the trial was unfair. Consequently I disagree with Reitlinger
and with Mr. Curtis. I have posted many examples of why I believe the trial
was unfair and I ask any interested parties to either access these posts on
alt revisionism or Deja News, and then attempt to locate the book and read
it for yourselves. After hearing both sides of the argument, I leave it for the
browser to make up their own minds as to the fairness of the trial.–rb

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> [email protected] (Rubin Friedman) writes:
>
> ([email protected]) writes:
> > In the report of his trip to Poland (1822) Heine writes:

> Anti-Semitic stuff snipped.
>
> > COMMENT: Aside from his stated preference, Heine’s description of the Polish Jews
> > seems to parallel that of Hitler’s re the Viennese Jews, described in Mein Kampf, almost
> > a century later:

> If accurate, the quote merely confirms the difficulties of the self-hating
> Jews.
>
> Again what does this have to do with the Holocaust? That the Jews
> “desereved” to be killed?
>
> Sorry, but this does not deny the Holocaust. You have not fulfilled your
> mission.

> “Love work; despise power for power’s sake; and don’t get too close to the
> government” – Ethics of the Fathers

Comment: My “mission”, as you choose to call it, is not to “deny” the Holocaust,
but to uncover the truth, even if it turns out to be uncomfortable for some people.
Also, I never, ever stated that the Jews deserved to be killed. Finally, I do not
regard Heine to have been a self-hating Jew…he died devoutly confirming his
Judaiism. Even during his life, he took offense to those who sought to criticize the
Jews.–rb

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> [email protected] (ibokor) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> :
> : COMMENT: Of course I am neither an anti-Semite, nor a liar, nor a scumbag
> : Nazi apologist.
> :
>
> Judging by the exchanges in this newsgroups, this
> declaration of yours is at best, a concatenation
> of moot points.
>
> Consider, as an example a posting of yours at the
> end of last year. You attributed words from Charles
> Power to me and appended his name to several
> paragraphs of my authorship. That was a clear case
> of patent fabrication. That qulifies you as being
> a liar, unless it was a genuine mistake and you
> thought that Charles Power and I are, despite
> living in opposite hemispheres, one and the same
> person. This has been pointed out to you by me,
> together with the request/challenge to admit the
> innocent error and apologise to Charles Power if
> that be the case. The alternative is to bear the
> odium of having been caught in flagrante delicto.
> Your silence attests to the latter’s being the
> more apt.
>
> d.A.

COMMENT: If such was the case, then it was error. I don’t
have time to play silly games, and often who is posting what
gets confusing for both sides. Don’t be paranoid. I am not
devising little schemes to “get” you or “confuse” you in any
way.

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> [email protected]c.il (Richard Schultz) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> : > If it’s anonymous, how do you know the author was a converted
> : > Jew? How do you know it wasn’t written, say, the pope’s
> : > mistress or illegitimate son?
>
> : I don’t. The book is regarded by most authorities as having been published
> : by a converted Jew. There were many of them at the time, you see.
>
> Many authorities or many converted Jews? In any case, I believe that
> you are missing the point: you accept uncritically an anonymous
> anti-Semitic work without bothering to wonder that it might be a forgery
> (and you posted it here, but that’s a different story) on the one hand.
> And yet you are willing to dismiss as forgeries any Nazi document that
> doesn’t say what you want it to. Many of us have trouble understanding
> how you are able to make the distinction so easily.

> —–
> Richard Schultz [email protected]
> Department of Chemistry tel: 972-3-531-8065
> Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel fax: 972-3-535-1250
> —–
> “I’ve lost my harmonica, Albert.”

Comment: I follow your drift, of course. And yes, this could have been a
forgery. i never denied it, but it seems to have been an accurate forgery,
if it was….Weren’t the Protocols of Zion also a forgery? (Don’t attempt to
read more in this question, as many of you are wont to do.)

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Subject: Re: Ferdinand Lassalle on the Jews
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> [email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) writes:

> Well, one can hardly be more base than an anti-Semitic lying scumbag Nazi
> apologist! That a lawyer (or anybody else for that matter) simply points
> out the obvious by calling a spade a spade is _hardly_ being “base!”

Comment: Conversely, simply because I point out all your errors and omissions
of fact hardly qualifies me as a nazi.–rb

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Subject: Re: Playing for Irma Grese–Fania Fenelon
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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> “I usually used to beat them on the shoulders, but
> there were times when, because of the numbers involved,
> they were beaten on any part of the body that happened
> to be easiest”.
>
> Irma Grese, on how she used to beat Auschwitz inmates
> with a stick; “The Belsen Trial”, p. 713.

> -Danny Keren.

Comment: It’s getting old, Danny. Get used to it.

From [email protected] Sat Jan 11 07:22:00 PST 1997
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Subject: Re: Jewish math: 6 million minus 2.5 million= 6million, of course!
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> [email protected] (william c anderson) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> : i think for myself, thank you. Unfortunately for you, history
> : DEMANDS evidence, something you are incapabloe of providing…
> : Your bluff has been called and its all over now, as the Stones would
> : play it….rb
>
> Hee hee–this from Mr. J. Belling, who’s idea of providing evidence
> for an assertion is to bleat, “It’s my opinion,” and who doesn’t
> believe the Holocaust happened because he gets a funny feeling in
> his big toe when he reads survivor testimony, and a warm fuzzy feeling
> when he reads Nazi testimony; except for the parts where they confess,
> when he has the feeling they’ve been tortured.
>
> Yup. Case closed, Mr. Belling. Your “feelings” have overwhelmed
> us all, and we can go home now.
>
> Bill

COMMENT: Well, when are you leaving? Many people will not miss your
absence. BTW, it is not a “feeling” I get…it is my considered opinion based
upon a non-biased examination of testimony and evidence. i will leave the
big toe syndrome to you. Perhaps Dr. Scholl will be able to offer you assistance
with a course in basic logic.–rb

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > the criminal Giwer misreads the Constitution again:
> > On 6 Jan 1997 23:44:19 GMT, [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) wrote in
> > alt.revisionism:
>
> > >> > > > For being a paid agent of the nazi government.
>
> > >> > > Well, at least she made an honest living!
>
> > >> > Only “blackmore” would describe an American citizen being a paid
> > >> > agent of the Third Reich in 1942 “an honest living.”
>
> > >> And what would you call the Rosenberg’s paid treason to the United States?
> > >> Or Pollards sale of high security U.S. documents to Israel?
Is this less than
> the
> > >> honest living Ms. Dilling pursued?–rb
>
> > > Here we have the typical technique of “blackmore” an anti-Semite who
> > >never met a nazi he did not like. First he describes treason as an “honest
> living”
> > >and then tries to smear others.
>
> > Treason? First the man correctly says sedition. Then he
> > changed it incorrectly to treason. Today the crime would be failure
> > to register as a paid agent. What a crime!
>
> Since we were at war with the country paying her, it was treason. Read
> the Constitution.
>
> It’s nice to that the criminal Giwer endorses treason.
>
> –YFE

Why do you endorse lying and slander?

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

You are losing Mr. Blackmore. Just like Giwer did before he sank into
his current fit of obscenity, forgery, cowardice and abuse. What are
*you* going to do?

It seems, Gord, that he is falling into obscenity (with that post to
Hilary), forgery, cowardace, and abuse. <shrug>

Mike Curtis
E-mail [email protected]
Nizkor Web: https//nizkor.org/

It seems you could well give me lessons in forgery, cowardice, and abuse.
Your ruses are not working this time. Your attempts to create another “Giwer”
will fail,–rb

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[email protected] (Jamie McCarthy) writes:
[email protected] wrote:

I refer to a series of mysterious alt sex binary posts, which had
headers revealing the senders to have allegedly been Feree and Stein.

A lesson in smear tactics, indeed.

Posted/emailed.

Jamie McCarthy http://www.absence.prismatix.com/jamie/(Page doesn`t exist)
[email protected] Co-Webmaster of https//nizkor.org/

Comment: The reason many people give you no respect is due to blatant,
mendacious comments like the above. Your tactics have been recoginized
and identified, and I see you are doing your best to live up to them

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>From the transcripts of a hearing concerning the case of Susanna S, 10 November,
1938:

“My name is Adolf Heinrich F., I am 26 years old single, ….and a Ortsgruppenleiter
in Eberstadt. I admit that shortly before 8 am this morning, I killed the widow Susanna
S., born G. in her home, by a shot from a revolver.

At 6 am, I received instructions by telephone from Kreisleiter U. in Buchen to carry
out an action against the Jews in Eberstadt. The Kreisleiter explained to me, I could
do whatever I wanted to the Jews, except that plundering and arson was prohibited.
As a result of these directions, I made the necessary arrangements with my political
Leader in Eberstadt and my SA comrads…..

Then we set out to the house of now deceased Susanna S. Tagging along with me,
were the following people……………

I knocked on the door of the house. The Widow S. peered out from behind the
closed window. I then told S. to open the door. It took 3-4 minutes before Frau S finally
opened the door. When Mrs. S. looked directly at me standing in front of the door,
she laughed at me challengingly and remarked: “Already a visit from high places this moning.”
I made no reply. Mrs. S. turned away and then walked into her room. I followed up to the entrance
of the door. I then ordered Mrs. S. to get dressed at once. She ignored me and ran around the room,
laughingly refusing to comply with my order. After anout 2 minutes she walked over to the sofa and
sat down, whereupon I inquired whether or not she was going to carry out my order and get dressed.
S. then told me that she wasn’t going to get dressed and come with us, and that we could do whatever
we wanted to do. We had only intended to escort Mrs. S. to the city hall, but we never informed the deceased
woman that that was what we intended to do.

S. now declared that if we wanted something from her, then we ought to go and fetch the police.
Along with that she repeated that she would not get dressed nor accompany us anywhere.

Then I told her: “I am telling you right now—get dressed and come with us!” Once again she replied:
“I am NOT leaving my house. I’m an old woman.” To that I told her that it was well known to me that
she frequently took walks in the city and piddled around every day in her herb-garden. Her refusal to leave
the house was without foundation.

Now I drew my service pistol out of my right trouser pocket. I had already given the holster over to the
Propaganda Leader N.O. before we had left for the house and reached the street. From that point on,
I carried the pistol in my trouser pocket. I didn’t want to be walking around early in the morning with a
pistol on my belt. I didn’t want to atttract any attention. Especially I didn’t want to enter the Jewish area
with the pistol holster.

I next took the service pistol, with the safety catch on, out of my pocket, and ordered the woman 5 or 6
times to stand up and get dressed. Thereupon S. screamed loudly, mockingly, and arrogantly : I am NOT
getting up and I am NOT getting dressed, so just do whatever you want to do to me.” In that moment,
when Mrs. S. screamed, “Do whatever you want to me”, I pressed the saftey catch of the pistol off and
the first round went off into Mrs. S.

After the delivery of the first shot I was standing approximately 10 cm away from the door way. I had the
pistol pointed toward the chest of the deceased. After the first shot rang out, Mrs. S. slumped over on
the sofa. She had lurched backward, and then grabbed her chest with both hands. I then immediately fired
the next shot, which was aimed at and struck her in the head. S. then slid off the sofa and rolled herself over.
She was lying directly in front of the sofa, with her head turned left towards the wall. At this moment, S. still
showed signs of life. I heard the sound of her throat gurgling and rattling at intervals. My firend C.D. now
lifted her head and turned it in order to see where the bullet had struck…..

After that, I was quite sure that she was dead, as I had fired a shot from approximately 10 cm directly in
the middle of her forehead.”

Source: Justiz u. Nationalsozialismus, p. 197, 198. Translated from the
original German.

COMMENT: As my header to this post suggested, this case is particularly
disturbing for TWO reasons:

1. That Mrs. S. had to die under these tragic circumstances.

2. That the authors of the book never saw fit to give us any clue to the real
identities of the victim and perpetrator, and what is
worse—-they never gave us the results of the trial proceedings
against the young man who shot her.
I found this particularly disturbing because the reader is deliberately
left in the air over the question of whether or not the interests of justice
were served in this case. I found this to be very unprofessional of the authors.

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> [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:
> > [email protected] who never met a nazi he didn’t like writes:
> > [email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

> > Providing evidence of the crimes of the nazis to “blackmore” is like
> > feeding ipecac to an infant. A vomitous spew results.
>
> > COMMENT: And you appear to have diarrhea of the mouth. At any rate,
> > Himmler WAS incorruptible
>
> He was a thief.
>
> –YFE

There is no thief greater than a lawyer. What IS your profession, Mr. E?-rb

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> [email protected] (william c anderson) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> : I have read through the testimony at the Belsen trial and I must simply call
> : a spade a spade. Most of the accusers come off as liars, or exaggerators,
> : at best. The Germans appear to be giving truthful testimony. I say this
> : simply because I have read through the transcripts and that is how I view
> : it. It is my opinion and I have never claimed anything more. If you or Mr.
> : Curtis get different feelings from reading the same text, you are both entitled
> : to your opinons.
>
> Of course, Mr. Belling is free to proceed by whatever method he deems
> best, but most historians would find this process of reading a text
> and judging it by the “feelings” one gets to be more than slightly
> dubious.
>
> Bill

COMMENT; It has been a while Mr. Anderson. Thank you for your input, but
I might urge you to be a bit more cautious when replying for “most historians”.
“Historians” were not the judges who sentenced people to death at the Belsen
Trials.–rb

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> [email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
> [email protected] (E. Zundel Repost) writes
> (quoting the lame Nazi liar, “rblackmore”):
>
> # at Belsen, she [Irma Grese] was too horrified at the
> # condition of the sick inmates to even approach them.
>
> This is exactly what I mean when I say that, even among
> the “revisionists”, our “rblackmore” stands out as possibly
> the most revolting and consistent liar (after Matt Giwer).
>
> What Grese *really* said is the following:
>
> <begin quote: “The Belsen Trial”, p. 250>
>
> Q. At Belsen, have you ever struck a prisoner at all?
>
> A. Yes, but only with my hand. The condition of the prisoners
> was so bad that one had almost a horror of them.
>
> <end quote>
>
> She struck them with her hand, although, “rblackmore” tells
> us, she was “horrified to approach them”.
>
> I guess she had a very long hand…

> -Danny Keren.

Comment: Apparently her hand was not as long as those of the prisoners
she struck for stealing food from other starving inmates………………rb

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> Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> ChuckF2323 wrote:
> > >>>>
> > COMMENT: How could someone with such a limited intelligence decide
> > whether
> > I am very intellectual or not? Very strange…..I will get around to
> > posting the relevant
> > portions from Goldhagen’s bookin due time. Remember, patience is a
> > virtue.–rb
> >
> > I’ll buy the beers all around if blackmore proves this crock.
>
> Those beers are as safe as they could be Chuck.

> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time

Comment: Start stocking up on coronas.

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

Sure he can, Gord! He’s been doing this for two months now. Don’t you
feel all that air disturbance from the waving of _both_ hands?

Mike Curtis

Comment: Still living on Fantasy Island, aren’t you, Mike?—rb
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> [email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, Gord McFee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
Fafner13 wrote:

Don’t forget Doc Keren…

It’s Dr. Keren. Unlike the two losers I referred to above, Dr. Keren has
earned the right to be called Dr.

Comment: He has also earned the right to be called other things.

Mr. Blackmore, if I were in your shoes right now, I wouldn’t be too
quick to call people names.

But it’s all he has left!—Mark Van Alstine

Comment: Wrong again. I still have you.–rb

From [email protected] Sat Jan 11 18:49:06 PST 1997
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Subject: Re: Friedrich Engels on “The Joys of Yiddish”
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> Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
>
> [deleted]
>
> > Sorry, Blackmore, I choose my own game.
> >
> > COMMENT:
> > Then I would suggest that you choose to PLAY fairly. Not only are you wrong
> > about the Holocaust, but also about my alleged “handlers”, which is apparently
> > another fake diversionary tactic you are attemtping to create to drive people’s
> > attention from the real issues. I have no handlers, consequently, no one could
> > ever have “dropped me”, as you put it. Curious allegation, though.–rb
>
> I say you do have handlers, at least one. I am willing to bet you a
> *lot* of money that I can prove it. Want to give it a go?

> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time

Sure. Let’s go.

From [email protected] Sat Jan 11 18:49:07 PST 1997
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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
[email protected] wrote:

Bellinger must have a book that has documentation about what happened
before. We’ll wait for him to present that as we wait for:

1. The stuff that Ghandi (sp?) is waiting for.
2. The “bad gene” quote from Goldhagen
3. Proof of my lying.
4. And now the above.
5. ?

Anyone have anything else to add to the list.

Mike Curtis
E-mail [email protected]
Nizkor Web: https://nizkor.org/

Yes, as a matter of fact I do. Where is that alleged autopsy and chemical analysis
test allegedly conducted on allegedly gassed inmates at Dachau by Dr. larson?
When you supply that, I will answer the above.

From [email protected] Sat Jan 11 18:49:08 PST 1997
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Subject: Re: Friedrich Engels on “The Joys of Yiddish”
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> Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > > Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> > >
> > > I don’t think it was entirely his fault, Mike. You see, the chief
> > > handler announced at the last minute that Blackmore was to be the
> > > spammer of the week and he was unready for it. That necessitated using
> > > a whole bunch of irrelevant and inaccurate crap instead of the usual
> > > simply inaccurate crap.
> > >
> > > Posted and e-mailed.
>
> > COMMENT: It is strange that you should write the above as I have
> > suspected this of Nizkor for sometime now. Each person is ‘assigned”
> > someone to respond to, and each has a defined “method” of responding…
> > a variation on the “good guy”-“bad guy” routine. (Sorry, ladies…)
>
> Well, I hate to break the news to you, but Nizkor is not a monolithic
> bunch of hired hands who are controlled by a central master.
>
> Now, as for *you* folks, I claim that you have handlers. I claim that
> you have folks that feed you things to post in the newsgroup. In fact, I
> *know* that to be true. Can you guess how I know?
>
> Posted and e-mailed to Mr. Blackmore and Mr. Curtis.

> Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time

Comment: Your claim is false. No one feeds me anything. perhaps someone might send
me an email and ask me to post something for them, but they do not feed me whole articles
to write with my name attached.–rb

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
rblackmore wrote:
Comment: Conversely, simply because I point out all your errors and omissions
of fact hardly qualifies me as a nazi.–rb

I must have missed it. You’ve pointed out errors? When was this?

Comments: Why don’t we start with whether Fania Fenelon was ever at Belsen
or only at Auschwitz, like you maintained.

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Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
[email protected] wrote:

[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

Sorry, Blackmore, I choose my own game.

Mike Curtis
E-mail [email protected]
Nizkor Web: https://nizkor.org/

PS: Perhaps you would care to post evidence that I am directed by “handlers”
and how and why they “dropped” me. This ought to be good….

Are you *sure* of that? Care to put your money where your mouth is?
*I* am.

Posted and e-mailed to Mr. Blackmore and Mr. Curtis.

Gord McFee
> I’ll write no line before its time

Comment: Yes. Will you be honest enough to pay me?

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> Annie Alpert <[email protected]> writes:
> ChuckF2323 wrote:
> >
> > ubject: would you be my friend?
> > From: [email protected]
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:30:41
> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I’m 14 years old and I think I may be a gay. I’m looking for some support
> > and friendship
> > with a older male age 18-40. Please email if you can help.
> >
> > Look for a turkey named J. Belling AKA Blackmore, he just might be able to
> > help, if he didn’t write this sick shit.
> >
> > Chuck
> This same spam sandwich has been posted in every newsgroup–probably the
> cops looking for some stupid perverts to bust.
> >
> > IF THE DENIERS CAN’T PROVE IT…THEN THEY LIE

> Nizkor (USA) – An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource
> Nizkor Web: https://nizkor.org/
> Anonymous ftp: http://ftp.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?
> European mirror: http://www1.de.nizkor.org/~nizkor/

So, Ms. Alpert, you have now decided to throw your lot in with the other
slanderers…How predictable. You can’t win an argument, so you resort
to slander. Perhaps it was your son who posted the message above.

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> Doc Tavish <[email protected]> writes:

> Elizabeth Dilling has been demonized on account of her uncompromising
> Anti-Communist stand. What group of people scurry for cover everytime
> world communism is brought to light?
> Doc Tavish
>
> We love you Liz even though you didn’t have Dietrich gams.

Comment: Now, why did I KNOW that this would turn out to be the case? Thanks for
the details, Doc.–rb

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> Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
> Subject:
> Re: The Bad German “Gene”
> Date:
> 8 Jan 1997 09:19:36 GMT
> From:
> [email protected]
> Organization:
> Sprynet News Service
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> alt.revisionism
> References:
> 1
> > [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
[email protected] (ChuckF2323) wrote:

Chuck writes for blackemre:

Or something childish like that. Blackmore doesn’t realize that
sometimes silence is a great virtue. (Should I expect a childish
response to this line? of course! It’s Blackmore stomping his little
feet. 🙂

don’t he always?

Comment: A word to the wise: Follow your own advice.. “Sometimes
silence is a great virtue.”

Well, listen, dipstick, let’s have a little more from you, rather than
all that garbage.

The Bad Chuck Feree Gene, which produces the following bizarre behavior:

Bullying, bragging, threatening, blustering, posting libel, slander and filth.
Bragging about killing thousands of civilians during the war, lying, and
whining while drinking copious amounts of cheap gin.–rb

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> [email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> > Fafner13 wrote:
> >
> > Don’t forget Doc Keren…
> >
> > It’s Dr. Keren. Unlike the two losers I referred to above, Dr. Keren has
> > earned the right to be called Dr.
> >
> > Comment: He has also earned the right to be called other things.
> >
> > Mr. Blackmore, if I were in your shoes right now, I wouldn’t be too
> > quick to call people names.

Gord McFee I’ll write no line before its time

Comment: You are not in my shoes. if you were, you would be
singing a different tune.–rb

Indeed. As a castrato.

At least I would have been BORN with balls……..rb

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Dr. Kremer’s Diary: ‘They Don’t Call Auschwitz the Extermination
Camp For Nothing!’
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[email protected] (Miloslav Bilik) writes:
On 10 Jan 1997 06:46:28 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

[email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:
Notes From Diary of SS-Doctor Kremer, while in Auschwitz
[‘The Good Old Days’ – E. Klee, W. Dressen, V. Riess, The Free Press,
NY, 1988, p. 256-268]
—————————————————————-
2 September 1942
3.00 a.m. attended my first Sonderaktion. Dante’s Inferno seems to
me almost a comedy compared to this. They don’t call Auschwitz the
extermination camp for nothing!

Comment: Who is “they”?

Comment: I believe that Kremer wrote in German…..”The camp of the annihilation”….
and was referring to the typhus and dysentery and other AIDS like illnesses running rampant
throughout the camp.

He wrote “Das Lager der Vernichtung”. But no luck, when he wrote about
typhus he didn’t use “vernichten”. Btw: “In Auschwitz liegen ganze
Strassenzüge an Typhus darnieder”. He used “darniederliegen”, no
“vernichten”.

Comment: yes, well, this is a seperate entry isn’t it. Whole blocks were
disabled with typhus. On this occasion he reports something of a general nature.
However, he also may have been speaking in a general sense when he referred
to Auschwitz as the Lager der Vernichtung. Just by reading Lifton’s book, we get
a good idea about the various illnesses prevalent throughout the camp–and if people were
dying of them by the hundreds—thousands—then this description would be apt.

**It’s no one place in his diary where Kremer refers to the typhus in
connection to sonderaktion.**

Comment: What about where the women were transferred from one of the medical
blocks in the middle of the night?

And what could be this sonderaktion in the night at 3.00 am,
**outside**, if he referred to the typhus an dysentery ? Why did all
these sonderaktionnen take place only when a convoy was incoming ?

Comment: We would only be speculating.

5 September 1942

In the morning attended a Sonderaktion from the women’s concentration
camp (Muslims); the most dreadful of horrors. Hschf. Thilo — army
doctor — was right when he said to me this is the ‘anus mundi’. In
the evening towards 8.00 attended another Sonderaktion from
Holland.

Comment: We would only be speculating, but this could refer to either the terminally
ill receiving some sort of euthanasia–such as phenol injection….or transferring them to
another isolation block for treatment.

Comment: “Anus Mundi”–so-called because of the severe dysentery which was
prevalent through out the camp and led to AIDS like “wasting syndrome”.

Stunning. And the 661 deportees who came with a transport from Holland
the same day, had a dysentery or typhus too ? Why did Kremer wrote
that the men were eager for “such operations” because of special
rations, was something doing these aktionnen unpleasant ?

Comment: We would only be speculating. Where are these men, who were they, and
what do they have to say on this subject?

12 October 1942

Second inoculation against typhus, later on in the evening severe
generalized reaction (fever). Despite this in the night attended a
further Sonderaktion from Holland (1,600 persons). Ghastly scenes in
front of the last bunker! That was the 10th Sonderaktion.

Comment: 1,600 is a large number of people. I intend to research this.
I realize if I asked anyone if they knew who was commandant during this
period, or what the Auschwitz Chronicle relates on this date, I would only be
told to do the research myself, so I will.

Oh, I will gave it for free: “[..]. The twelfth and thirteenth RSHA
transports from Belgium bring 995 and 675 Jews, respectively from
Malines Camp. Altogether, there are 1674 people, 534 men and 237 boys
and 653 women and 250 girls.[..] The remaining 1558 deportees are
killed in the gas chambers.” Hoess was commandant until nov. 43.

Comment: Ok, to address this.

1. Hoess was Commandant.
2. The Men received special rations for dealing with people in incoming transports.
3. Kremer, in referring to Auschwitz as Anus Mundi, merely quotes another SS doctors
use of that phrase. Now, do we have any direct statements by the Doctor who
made the statement to kremer?
4. His use of the term vernichtung as well as his statement concerning typhus were written
on two seperate occasions and need not have referred to any substantially different
interpretation.
5. Now, the Auschwitz Chronicle claims that these people were gassed. What source,
other than the Chronicle, and Kremer’s quixotic diary entry, along with his “testimony”
at his trial while in the hands of the Poles, can you offer to show proof that a crime of
mass homicide was committed?
6. We are left to imagine what “ghastly scenes” in front of the Bunker, Kremer refers to.

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[email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

PS: You also wrote that I “never met a nazi I didn’t like”, which is some
sort
of grotesque perversion of Will Rogers famous comment. Let me ask you
this:

Have you ever met a Nazi you did like?—rb

Certainly not you.

Comment: then your answer is flippant and irrellevant, as I am not a nazi.
However, should you ever care to post proof that I am a member of a nazi
organization, please, by all means, do so.–rb

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> [email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
> > Fafner13 wrote:
> >
> > Don’t forget Doc Keren…
> >
> > It’s Dr. Keren. Unlike the two losers I referred to above, Dr. Keren has
> > earned the right to be called Dr.
> >
> > Comment: He has also earned the right to be called other things.
> >
> > Mr. Blackmore, if I were in your shoes right now, I wouldn’t be too
> > quick to call people names.

Gord McFee I’ll write no line before its time

Comment: You are not in my shoes. if you were, you would be
singing a different tune.–rb

Indeed. As a castrato.
Comment:
At least I would have been BORN with balls……..rb

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> [email protected] (Aborning) writes:
> On Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:18:23 GMT, [email protected] (tom moran) wrote
> in alt.revisionism:

> > A couple of weeks ago we had the thing about all the alleged
> >heroic Jews in the German army reported in the L.A.Times and posted
> >here, then more recently articles that say the Jews are “courageous”
> >for their policy in the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations and then
> >today 1/9/97 as posted ‘Another typical letter to the editor’ with the
> >title “Jews living in Hebron Are Brave …” we also got a full page ad
> >in the N.Y.Times with an old Jew in Russia featured full page and the
> >leading copy, “Showing off his medals is one thing. Asking for food is
> >another” paid for by the, United Jewish Appeal Federation Campaign,
> >”For ourselves. For our children. For Israel. Forever.”
> >
> > You can just make out some hazy medals emerging from behind the
> >old mans lapel. The old man is giving a classic Jewish photographic
> >pose, head slightly tilted forward and eyes peering up through his
> >brows.
>
> One might ask what he did to earn those communist medals.
> =====
> The URL, the mail drop, and the synagogue phone numbers

As ken McVay recently asked in regard to Hitler and his medals?

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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: The Subject at Hand
Date: 8 Jan 1997 09:28:21 GMT
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> [email protected] (Sara aka Perrrfect) writes:
> I have been reading Telford Taylor’s newest (yeah, it’s five years old, but
> I’m just getting around to it, so it’s new to *me*) book on Nuremberg.
> There’s a lot of interest to ALL sides in it.
>
> Taylor pulls no punches. He disagreed with many things said and done by
> Jackson, and by others.
>
> It’s fascinating, and there is a lot of information I’ll try and post here
> when time allows.
>
> Besides, it’s a helluva lot more interesting than Mr. Giwer’s “nom de
> jour,” Mr. Blackmore/Belling’s name-calling, and Mr. Tavish’s fantasies
> about the Germans in his life.
>
> And maybe… just maybe… it might bring discussion back where it belongs.
>
> Ever hopeful,
> Sara

> “Benjamin Franklin, the great sage of the colonies and then of the new
> republic, summarized a personal creed that almost literally reproduced
> Deism’s five fundamental beliefs. The first three presidents of the United
> States also held Deistic convictions as is amply evidenced in their
> correspondance.”
> Encyclopedia Britannica
>>>>
Comment: When have you ever participated in these discussions? Good-night,
Gracie.

From [email protected] Sun Jan 12 18:11:27 PST 1997
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: Jake LaMotta vs Nizkor–A Lesson in Smear Tactics
Date: 11 Jan 1997 20:58:06 GMT
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> [email protected] (Michael Stein) writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Jamie McCarthy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> I refer to a series of mysterious alt sex binary posts, which had
> >> headers revealing the senders to have allegedly been Feree and Stein.
> >
> >A lesson in smear tactics, indeed.
>
> What is especially curious is that none of these posts have turned up
> on either Nizkor or Digex, my own ISP. DejaNews has no record of them.
> In response to a posted query, not one person resported seeing those
> posts. In fact, the only evidence we have for their existence is the
> eyewitness testimony of rblackmore.
>
> Posted/emailed.

> For more information, visit: https://nizkor.org

Comment: Another piece of circumstantial evidence that Nizkooks engineered
these phony posts. Why, how can my “eyewitness testimony” be believed when
I question the validity of holocaust survivor’s testimony. This sounds very much
like what the JDL told Ernst Zundel after his home was burned down by arsonists:
“Nah, Ernst….it’s all a hoax….just like the Holocaust.”

From [email protected] Sun Jan 12 18:11:28 PST 1997
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: The Bitch of Buchenwald rbl
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> [email protected] (ChuckF2323) writes:
> ubject: The Bitch of Bu…Bu….Bullshit
> From: [email protected]
> Date: 10 Jan 1997 07:33:02 GMT
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>
From Time Magazine, December 25, 1950:

Yeah and time magazine was there and saw the lamp shades and other items
made from human skin. That’s the bullshit blackmore.

Comment: Sorry to disillusion you, but this info came from the courts themselves.
Live with it.

clips

I hope the piece of filth who dubbed this woman the “Bitch of
Buchenwald” thus taking her very humanity away from her, sleeps well at
night.

Pro-Nazi bullshit, blackmore, where do you keep your Nazi flags? Do you
sleep well at night, blackmore? Most liars have a difficult time getting a
good nights sleep.
Chuck

IF THE DENIERS CAN’T PROVE IT…THEN THEY LIE

Comment: it hurts you when your icons are shattered. It hurts to know that
Shaef lied to you……do you sleep well at night? At least I do not have the
deaths of thousands of people on my conscience.

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From: [email protected]
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1. Lying
2. Drinking excessive amounts of cheap gin
3. Gloating over killing thousands of civilians during the second world war.
4. Posting slander
5. Posting libel
6. Posting perverted filth

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Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:

However, your attempt to *be* another Giwer seems destined to succeed,
Mr. Blackmore. We have the antisemitic doggerel to Nazi Covington, yet
you claim to be neither Nazi nor antisemitic. We have the use of the
word “kike”, yet you claim not to be antisemitic. We now have the
German sexist troll to Ms. Ostrov, and I am sure you will claim not to
be sexist (as soon as you “remember” you wrote it). What is a person to
think? We have the use of more ane more one-liner insults, the
beginnings of obscenity and racism and sexism and antisemitism—why,
you are well on the way to becoming a full-blown Giwer.

By your own words, sir!

Posted and e-mailed to Mr. Blackmore and Ms. Ostrov and Mr. Curtis.

Gord McFee
I’ll write no line before its time

Comment: I believe I already responded to this post. Why is it re-posted?
Aside from all that, I have not broken my pledge to you, sir, have I? I made
no such pledge to the other people you post due to their tiring habit of using
slander to address argument.–rb

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

Sure he can, Gord! He’s been doing this for two months now. Don’t you
feel all that air disturbance from the waving of _both_ hands?

Mike Curtis

Comment: Still living on Fantasy Island, aren’t you, Mike?—rb

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Chuck Ferree <[email protected]> writes:
Chuck Ferree wrote:

Subject:
Re: The Bitch of Buchenwald rbl
Date:
11 Jan 1997 21:09:27 GMT
From:
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Organization:
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1

[email protected] (ChuckF2323) writes:
ubject: The Bitch of Bu…Bu….Bullshit
From: [email protected]
Date: 10 Jan 1997 07:33:02 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

From Time Magazine, December 25, 1950:

Yeah and time magazine was there and saw the lamp shades and other
items
made from human skin. That’s the bullshit blackmore.

Comment: Sorry to disillusion you, but this info came from the courts
themselves.
Live with it.

Bullshit, blackmore. Prove it, or you lie!

Comment: Don’t try to be a bigger fool than you already are. i posted the
comments of General Clay as well as the finding of the courts that these items
were NON existant FRAUDS.–rb

clips

I hope the piece of filth who dubbed this woman the “Bitch of
Buchenwald” thus taking her very humanity away from her, sleeps well
at
night.

Pro-Nazi bullshit, blackmore, where do you keep your Nazi flags? Do
you
sleep well at night, blackmore? Most liars have a difficult time
getting a
good nights sleep.

Comment: Well, you ought to know by personal experience. I, on the other
hand sleep just fine.–rb

IF THE DENIERS CAN’T PROVE IT…THEN THEY LIE

Comment: IF THE ACCUSERS CAN’T PROVE IT…THEN THEY LIE.–rb

Comment: it hurts you when your icons are shattered.

My icons are shattered? Not by you, pal.

COMMENT: For once you are right. They are not shattered by me, but by the truth.–rb

It hurts to know that
Shaef lied to you

blackmre, you dumbshit, you don’t even know what SHAEF stands for.

Comment: How about Supreme Headquarters of the Allied Expeditionary Force?
Or how about this one: Suprememe Headquarters of the Allied Expeditionary FARCE?–rb

Further more, SHAEF didn’t need to lie to me, pal, I saw Buchenwald,
the human skin lampshades, the “bitches” house, her bedroom, the whole
enchilada, pal.

Comment: Who was your field cook?—Timothy Leary?–rb

I watched as American troops, buried several thousand
bodies, skeletal, no meat on them bones, just skin and bones. Piled up
waiting for the ovens, which were still on when we arrived.

Comment: Yep, these people died from disease. None of them were turned into
lamps before you arrived?–rb

……do you sleep well at night?

You bet your skinny little ass I do.

Comment: Why would you know whether my ass is little or skinny,
and why would you care?–rb

Why shouldn’t I sleep well? I’m
clean. I’m not a proven liar. I’m not a pro-Nazi MF.

Comment: What’s an “MF”, Chuck?–rb

At least I do not have the
deaths of thousands of people on my conscience.

Me neither, pal. My conscience is clean. The Nazis are the ones with
dirty consciences, and the pro-Nazis too. They bear the guilt. They
did the horrible deeds. In your case, it’s a matter of condonement! It
simply doesn’t bother you at all, that Nazi Germany is responsible for
15-30 million innocent’s deaths.

Comment: What you wrote above is pure nonsense….unsinn.-quatsch.-rb

From [email protected] Mon Jan 13 07:14:12 PST 1997
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Subject: Re: The “Bad” German gene–Karl Marx’s Letter
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> [email protected] (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
> Hilary Ostrov said:
>
> >Gee, Yale, perhaps Bookkeeper Belling was so busy counting his “Cash”
> >when he wrote this particular inane assertion, that he’s confused Marx
>
> It must be really cramped in that post office box, where he keeps
> his business, eh? I wonder if Unkie Ernst knows?
>
> —
> Nizkor Canada | https://nizkor.org
> ———————–| Remember John Hron
> |————————————–
> https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hron-john/ Broken link

Are you jealous?

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> [email protected] (ChuckF2323) writes:

snip

Comment: Rather, he should look to you, “Big Brother Gay Feree” to guide
him along in the use of slander, libel, and snide insinuation. In between, you
can introduce him to some of that “cheap gin” you drink. When I inform your
wife about this behavior, he won’t be happy.—rb

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Annie Alpert <[email protected]> writes:
ChuckF2323 wrote:

So, Ms. Alpert, you have now decided to throw your lot in with the other
slanderers…How predictable. You can’t win an argument, so you resort
to slander. Perhaps it was your son who posted the message above.

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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Dr. Kremer’s Diary: ‘They Don’t Call Auschwitz the Extermination
Camp For Nothing!’
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> [email protected] (Miloslav Bilik) writes:

Comment: thanks for your insights. I will read the diary in toto this week and get back to you.–rb

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

Comment: The old Holocaust just ain’t what it used to be….

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Subject: Re: Hitler’s war record
Date: 12 Jan 1997 06:45:11 GMT
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[email protected] (Ken McVay OBC) writes:
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (ibokor) wrote:

[email protected] wrote:

COMMENT: Gosh, that’s funny…..I always thought that Hitler enlisted
in the German army and was highly decorated for bravery under fire.

Hitler was an Austrian. He managed to avoid miltitary service in
Austria by dint of the fact that he moved to Munich before World
War I. He avoided enlisting in his country’s army when war broke
out. He joined a reserve infantry regiment. He served as a
headquarters runner and received two Iron Crosses. He was wounded
and the victim of a gas attack.

Comment: Good. let’s address this….Hitler did indeed avoid joining the
Austrian Army. By his own confession, he was a pan-Germanist since child-hood.
He had no intention of serving in Austria’s armed forces. Consequently, he moved
to Munich. When war brole out, he enlisted, and was not drafted, into the German
army. He was more than willing to fight for Germany. As to his war decorations, they
were: Wound badge, German Iron Cross, 2nd Class, German Iron Cross, 1st class,
a rather rare award for an ordinary infantryman, which signifys that the recipient had
distinguished himself somehow on the field of battle.–rb

There appears to be some question about his decorations – if
memory serves, there were some problems with the record of
precisely how and why he received them.

Comment: there is no question about his decorations if you had researched
your subject properly. The full details of how and why Hitler was awarded his
country’s highest decoration is fully detailed in reports from the period. The OSS
“pyschological report” is one of the least credible reports to resort to for information.
Never having met Hitler, never having talked with him, their report was based
completely on malicious gossip and idle rumors spread by defectors from germany as well as simply
“guessing”…..This would be the same as asking Nizkor for a psychological report on
Mr. Giwer or Vice Versa. –rb

From the wartime OSS psychological profile, which was itself
https://nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hitler.adolf/oss-papers/text/ Broken link
oss-profile-04-05.html:

“It seems that mystery always follows Hitler. His career in the army is
no exception. There are several things that have never been
satisfactorily explained. The first is that he spent
four years in the same regiment but was never advanced beyond the rank of
First Class Private or Lance Corporal.

Comment: Napoleon was also known as the Little Corporal. Benito Mussolini
also never advanced beyond the rank of Corporal. In fact, many men simply
refuse commissions. This means nothing in regard to either their bravery or
their capabilities as military commanders.–rb

The second is the Iron Cross
First Class which he constantly wears. This has been the topic of much
discussion but the mystery has never been solved. There is no mention of
the award in the history of his regiment.

Comment: Untrue. the full details are available. See Maser, Toland, and other
historians for the details from the records from the officer who requested the
award. the officer who filled out the request was said to be Jewish.–rb

This is rather amazing inasmuch
as other awards of this kind are listed. Hitler is mentioned, in a number
of other connections but not in this one, although it is alleged that it
was awarded to him for capturing twelve Frenchmen, including an officer,
singlehanded. This is certainly no ordinary feat in any regiment and one
would expect that it would at least merit some mention, particularly in
view of the fact that Hitler had considerable fame as a politician when
the book went to press.

Comment: this was indeed the case. he had captured a number of Frenchmen
single handedly. Not as many as Sgt York, but America knows how to build the
hype. Also, the position of runner was one of the most dangerous assignments
in a regiment, having to carry important messages throught the lines, constantly
facing snipers, machine gun fire, mines, strafing, artillery fire, and strafing. The life
span of runners was very brief. Most of them
did not survive the war. yet Hitler did, against overwhelming odds. This was a position one
would have to volunteer for as well. Knowing the odds, Hitler still volunteered, which is another
testimonial in favor of his personal courage. A man without personal courage could never
command the respect of other men–ex. veterans like himself. That he was able to indeed
win their respect is also another testimonial.–rb

The Berlin Illustrierte Zeitung of August 10,
1939 printed a facsimile in which the date of award for this decoration
was clearly August 4, 1918. Yet the Voelkische Beobachter of
August 14, 1934 had published a facsimile in which the date of award was
October 4, 1918. Although these alleged facsimiles mentioned other
citations they did not include the date of award of the Iron Cross
Second Class. From all that can be learned the First Class Cross
was never awarded unless the recipient had already been awarded the
Second Class decoration.

Comments; The authors of the report did not have access to the documents at the
time. Today they are available. I suggest you research them.–rb

“Just what the facts are it is impossible to determine.

Comment: It is not impossible at all, and the facts are readily available.–rb

It is alleged that his war record has been badly tampered with and
that von Schleicher was eliminated during the Blood Purge because
he knew the true facts.

Comment: Nonsense. Schleicher was eliminated because he was a conspirator.–rb

Strasser who served in the same division
has probably as good an explanation as any. He says that during
the last months of the war there were so many First Class Crosses
being given out that General Headquarters was no longer able to
pass on the merits of each individual case.

Comment: Another error. The full details are available as is the document relating to
Hitler’s award and the reasons for it. this is what results when you ignore the most
current research in favor of old antiquated propaganda laced reports from the period.–rb

The
thing that speaks in favor of this explanation is the curious bond
which exists between Hitler and his regimental sergeant-major, Max
Areann who was later to become the head of the Nazi Eher Verlag.

Comment: not only is this explanation preposterous in view of the accessibility of
the original reports today, but they even erred on Max’s last name, which was Amann.–rb

“The only explanation for the lack of promotion that has
been published is the comment of one of his officers to the effect
that he would never make a non-commissioned officer “out of that
neurotic fellow, Hitler”. Rauschning (947) gives a different explanation.

Comment: According to the most recent research, Rauschning’s “memoirs” have
been thoroughly discredited. It turns out that Rauschning had met Hitler on only
THREE occasions and that he plagiarized from a French author. (See one of my earlier
posts on Rauschning, accessible on Deja News/–rb

He claims that a high Nazi had once confided in him that he
[00010131.GIF Page 125] had seen Hitler’s military record and that it
contained an item of a court martial which found him guilty of
pederastic practices with an officer, and that it was for this reason
that he was never promoted. Rauschning also claims that in Munich Hitler
was found guilty of a violation of paragraph 175 which deals with
pederasty. No other evidence of either of these two charges has been found.

Comment: Here we go with the filthy slander again. Sounds familiar. Why do you post
this discredited filth? Rauschning “heard”…..a court martial for pederastic practices……
If this were the case, hitler would have been unceremoniously dismissed from the
armed forces immediately. however, after the war he was assigned to lecturing to
cadets and later serving as a government agent assigned to keeping close eye on
the activities of possibly subversive political parties. This alone proves the filthy
slander behind these perverse allegations.–rb

“The mystery becomes even deeper when we learn from a great many
informants that Hitler was quite courageous and never tried to evade
dangerous assignments, It is said that he was unusually adept at running
and then falling or seeking shelter when the fire became intense

Comment: No! Hitler became adept at running and seeking shelter from incoming
artillery!?! How “cowardly”! Those that were not adept usually never returned home
after the war. he was good at what he did—getting the important messages through at great
peril to his own life and limb.–rb

. It
also seems that he was always ready to volunteer for special assignments
and was considered exceedingly reliable in the performance of all his
duties by his own officers.

“It may be well to mention at this point that when Hitler entered the
army he again became a member of a recognized and respected social
institution. No longer did he have to stand in breadlines or seek
shelter in flophouses, For the first time since his mother died did
he really belong to a group of people. Not only did this provide him
ambition, namely, to be united with the German nation. It is also
interesting to note a considerable change in his appearance. From
the dirty, greasy, cast-off clothes of Jews and other charitable
people he was now privileged to wear a uniform. Mend (209), one of
his comrades, tells us that when Hitler came out of the trenches or
back from an assignment he spent hours cleaning his uniform and boots
until he became the joke of the regiment. Quite a
remarkable change for one who for almost seven years refused to exert
himself just a little in order to pull himself out of the pitiful
conditions in which he lived among the dregs of Society.”

Comment: The real “mystery” here is why Ken McVay relies on this historical
trash to try and prove a point pre-destined to failure.
Who the hell is John hron? All this reliance on outdated and refuted propaganda
>from another era makes me wonder what your motives are….are you here to seriously
discuss history and seperate the wheat from the chaff, or are you simply here to post
slanderous unsubstantiated filth?–rb

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> Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:

> Fair enough. “Because you say so” is the basis of your thesis. Thank
> you for admitting that you do not even attempt to carry out empirical
> research, or engage in honest debate.

COMMENT: That is, in fact what I just wrote…I examine the evidence,
and then render an opinion on all the available facts and testimony
according to my reason. Most of the Germans were convicted on the basis
of no concrete evidence, consequently I have an authority to refer to–the
kangaroo court itself.–rb

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[email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

Musmanno sat on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court; his title was
“Justice.”

–YFE

Musmanno was an American who sat in judgment over German nationals.
The day he made the decision to do this, he abrogated his right to be called
“Justice.”–rblackmore

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[email protected] (Yale F. Edeiken) writes:

Musmanno sat on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court; his title was
“Justice.”

–YFE

Musmanno was an American who sat in judgment over German nationals.
The day he made the decision to do this, he abrogated his right to be called
“Justice.”–rblackmore

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

And laughable. When such “feelings” arise, a good historian starts to
research deeper to discover why he has this feeling and tires to
substantiate it. Mr. Bellinger never does this, but prefers to think
that his opinions mean something all by themselves. The feelings of a
bookseller will hardly cause a sniffle in the cold of historical

Mike

Comment:

If such is the case, then you have little to worry about.

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[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
rblackmore writes:

It is you who has not been honest–with either the browsers or yourself.–rb

So easy to say. I see you prefer not to _prove_ this accusation.
Interesting tactic.

Mike Curtis
E-mail [email protected]
Nizkor Web: https://nizkor.org/

Comment: My “proving” it would be superfluous. Read your own posts for direct
confirmation.–rb

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Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:
Fafner13 wrote:

Don’t forget Doc Keren…

It’s Dr. Keren. Unlike the two losers I referred to above, Dr. Keren has
earned the right to be called Dr.

Comment: He has also earned the right to be called other things.

Mr. Blackmore, if I were in your shoes right now, I wouldn’t be too
quick to call people names.

Gord McFee
I’ll write no line before its time

Comment: You are not in my shoes. if you were, you would be
singing a different tune.–rb

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
[email protected] wrote:

[email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

l. Before your handlers dropped
you, you actually were distorting testimony and sources that you would
actually name. No you have stopped doing that in favor of voicing
opinions which I pointed out were as valuable as a pimple on a ducks
butt. (That’s for Mark, he liked that.)

COMMENT: How about Fania Fenelon? You didn’t come out looking so
good with that one.–rb

You came out looking like fool yes. You failed to include the later
quote. I suggest that that methodology is dishonest.

It is good that you are concerned that Nizkor is so organized and
controlling. It is good that you feel that many of us are here not out
of concern but as a part of some propaganda machine. It is always
intersting when people do meet us and find that we are just average
folks who hate seeing history put to the kind hateful means that you
and your handlers prefer.

COMMENT: Indeed, you prefer your own distortions.–rb

Show me one of my distortions.

See the above concerning Fania Fenelon. How soon you forget!

I’m here out of a self interest and that is
that I think the denial of the holocaust is irresponsible and
dangerous. Plus lies concerning history piss me off. Maybe valuable
classroom time can be saved by dealing with the facts here in the
group. It’s a start, anyway.

Sorry, Blackmore, I choose my own game.

COMMENT:
Then I would suggest that you choose to PLAY fairly.

Show me how I play unfairly.

Not only are you wrong
about the Holocaust, but also about my alleged “handlers”, which is apparently
another fake diversionary tactic you are attemtping to create to drive people’s
attention from the real issues. I have no handlers, consequently, no one could
ever have “dropped me”, as you put it. Curious allegation, though.–rb

Rhetoric. Bah!

Phony Accusations! Bah!

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[email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) writes:

Cockroaches can metamorphose? Amazing.

Well, you have metamorphized into a piece of offal.—

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Gord McFee <[email protected]> writes:

The last
on, the score was about 25-0 *against* the “revisionists” when the poll
stopped. Coincidence?

Gord McFee
I’ll write no line before its time

COMMENT: Coincidence or fraud.

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> Nele Abels <[email protected]> writes:
> On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Gord McFee wrote:
>
> > > Ich hab eine tiefe sehnsucht in mir, nach Dir, nach Dir….ja. ich
> > > sehn mich, ich sehn mich, nach Dir……
>
> > Err… Ms. Ostrov, I am able to translate that passage, and will also
> > anxiously await Mr. Blackmore’s translation! I will only say that he
> > seems to have switched genders as to that for which he trolls! I will
> > only add that I could only find three ot four mistakes in the German,
> > which means that Blackmore’s handler’s German still hasn’t improved very
> > much. (Wo bist Du, i.A.?)
>
> Ah, well, I count 7 ortographical mistakes and one in punctuation.
> Resembles “Ehrlich’s” ratio 🙂
>
> Nele

Really? Take it up with the German lyricist…it comes from a popular
song in the 1940’s.

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[email protected] (Marduk) writes:
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says…
<unbelievably nauseating tribute to a murderous nazi bitch deleted>

And after I thought that I had read all the nazi filth unfit to print, along
you come with this shit….

well, whats next you you pathetic piece of nazi shit? a glowing tribute to
Himmler’s warm feelings for animals? or perhaps an incisive piece on Goring’s
trouble with weight loss? or perhaps an analysis on Streicher’s hidden
desire to actually refuse to publish tasteless cartoons?

one of these days, nazi-wannabe, we’ll find you and hunt you down

Comment: That’s it! I’m moving to Jerusalem. They aldready have a cross there
with my name on it: Rex Naziorum.

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[email protected] (Mark Van Alstine) writes:
In article <[email protected]>, Gord McFee <[email protected]> wrote:

[email protected] wrote:

[email protected] (Daniel Keren) writes:

snip

COMMENTS: As usual your arguments and diversions are achieving the
hoped for results. You fail on all accounts.

Normally one includes the other person’s post if one wishes to claim to
have rebutted it.

Indeed. However, normal people typically don’t deny the Holcaust and blow
smoke out their butts as “proof” while doing so either.

COMMENT: Oh, so its back to the old smoke out of the butt insult. You really
do have a fascination with butts…butz….butz’s butt…????!???

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] (ChuckF2323) wrote:
>
> >Chuck writes for blackemre:

Or something childish like that. Blackmore doesn’t realize that
sometimes silence is a great virtue. (Should I expect a childish
response to this line? of course! It’s Blackmore stomping his little
feet. 🙂

Comment: A word to the wise: Follow your own advice.. “Sometimes
silence is a great virtue.”

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> [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > [email protected] (Mike Curtis) writes:

> >> > Is rlbackmore really so stupid or is he just a clumsy liar??
> >>
> >> If his posts are any indication, I’m beginning to believe that both
> >> may be true.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> Mike Curtis
> >>
> >Why don’t you go back and reread your ignorant comment about Fania
> >Fenelon and then come back and discuss stupidity and clumsiness.
> >Would you guys like me to argue for your side for a while? It might help
> >you out.–rb

> I used the quotes you provided in the original post. The quote you
> provided later wasn’t in the original post. What kind of conclusion
> would anyone expect me to have of someone who behaves as you have?

> Mike Curtis
> E-mail [email protected]
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I would expect them to behave exactly as you do in every other post.
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Subject: Re: For the Benefit of Mr. Kike
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Subject: Re: Blackmore’s obtuse Postings
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