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Daniel Keren writes:
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>And scum also
> attracts other scum. Note who are the people who share Baron’s
> “views” about the history of the Holocaust: the likes of
> Milton Kleim and Les Griswold. Baron must be proud…
And so must your Yiddisha Mamma. I bet she’d wash your mouth out with Kosher
brillo pads if she heard you scumming it with the likes of Crazy Al.
One point though Dan, if scum attracts scum, what is it attracts you to me?
—
Alexander Baron

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SEARCHLIGHT ON THE “JEWISH CHRONICLE”
How The Diseased Organ Of “British” Jewry Spreads
The Fantasies, Paranoia And Poison Of Arch-Liar Gerry Gable

Published by InFoText Manuscripts,
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ISBN 1 871473 43 8.
A SHINING EXAMPLE OF A TISSUE OF LIES
Preamble
I apologise in advance to my readers, both of them, for repeating
here what I have said many times before, but until Gerry Gable
invents some new lies with which to poison the minds of the
people of Britain, including of the Jews he claims to be protect-
ing from the international Nazi conspiracy, I will continue to
expose the old ones, and in exactly the same, methodical way.
A Shining Example Of A Tissue Of Lies
The March 17, 1995 issue of the Jewish Chronicle ran a full page
spread on Searchlight magazine to celebrate [sic] its twentieth
birthday. According to the introduction to this Shining example:
“Helen Jacobus considers the progress of the battling anti-Fas-
cist journal, Searchlight, as it celebrates its 20th birthday,
and meets its indefatigable editor – building worker-turned-
investigator, Gerry Gable”.
It was Hitler himself who accused the Jews of being the master
of the Big Lie. If instead he had said that the Jewish journalist
is the master of the lie, and wilfully deceives both Gentile and
Jew alike, no reasonable person could have accused him of making
yet another anti-Semitic remark. What follows is a critique of
the Helen Jacobus article, as related by the prince of lies,
Gable himself.
The second paragraph reports that during a two year period from
1962-4, no less than thirty-four Jewish buildings were attacked
by the 1960s synagogue arsonists. “A child died in one of the
attacks.”
I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve exposed this par-
ticular lie in print. The facts are as follows. During the course
of 1965 there were a number of arson attacks on synagogues in the
Greater London area. (1) There were also, undoubtedly, a number
of unconnected attacks on Jewish targets. In one incident, burn-
ing rags were pushed through the letter box of a Jewish taxi
driver. Although this attack was carried out by the synagogue
arsonists, and although, fortunately, no significant damage
appears to have been done in this incident, it is debatable if it
can be accurately described as an anti-Semitic attack, as it was
clearly an act of revenge against one particular individual.
The background to this incident is rather interesting. Fran-
coise Jordan, the wife of the British Nazi leader Colin Jordan,
had a swastika pendant snatched from her neck by a Jewish taxi
driver, who was later fined for the assault. The August 1994
issue of Searchlight carried on its front cover a photograph of
Colin Jordan and his gang outside the court where the man was
appearing; the caption on the following page claimed, falsely,
that Colin Jordan had tried to have Maurice Ludmer, the late
editor of Searchlight, indicted on a charge of criminal libel for
publishing this photograph, which, Gable claimed, was taken in
1966.
The truth is that A) this photograph appeared – perhaps not for
the first time – in the Feb. 24-March 2, 1965, issue of the
glossy magazine Weekend in a feature on Colin Jordan called
LITTLE HITLER. B) Mr Jordan tried to have Maurice Ludmer indic-
ted, not for publishing this photograph, but for claiming, false-
ly, that he had been one of the masterminds of the synagogue
arsons campaign. (2) This claim was made in the pamphlet which
really launched Searchlight, A Well-Oiled Nazi Machine, which was
published in 1974, and again in the April 1975 issue of Search-
light itself. (3) Incidentally, the scurrilous pamphlet A Well-
Oiled Nazi Machine was co-written by none other than Gerry Gable!
(4)
Returning to the synagogue arsons, nobody died in any of these
fires, child or adult. But, before the synagogue arson campaign
started, there was another fire, an accidental fire, at the
Mesifta Talmudical College, Cazenove Road, Stamford Hill, in the
heart of London’s Orthodox community. This fire claimed two
victims: one was seriously injured, the other died.
The fatality was 15 year old trainee rabbi Wolf (or Woolf)
Katz; the boy who survived, albeit with appalling injuries, was
Robert (Judah) Gottesman. (5) The fire was reported in the Jewish
Chronicle for November 13, 1964. There were rumours at the time
that it may have been the work of anti-Semites/fascists, etc, but
these were ruled out, and indeed, the authorities went to consid-
erable lengths to quash these rumours. The December 25, 1964
issue of the Jewish Chronicle published a short article NO INCEN-
DIARISM AT YESHIVA. Three days earlier, the local press published
a slightly longer statement; an Assistant Commissioner at New
Scotland Yard wrote to local MP David Weitzman thus: “Careful
inquiries have been made into the suggestions of suspected incen-
diarism consequent upon an outbreak of fire at the above estab-
lishment. There is no evidence that any form of pseudo-fascist or
similar activity is present in the district, or that this inci-
dent was perpetrated by any such local organisations.” (6)
What Gable did later was tack this accidental fire onto his
non-existent successful investigation. In the September 1984
issue of Searchlight he credited the former 43 Group and 62 Group
thug Harry Bidney with bringing the arsonists to justice. Three
years later he had become bolder and took the credit himself in
his now notorious Jewish Chronicle interview of October 23, 1987.
He told the paper that he had “stood in the burnt-out shell of
that yeshiva at four in the morning and made a private vow to get
the people who’d done that”.
If Gable did stand in that yeshiva at four in the morning it
must have been with a box of matches in his hand, because the
alarm wasn’t raised until after 4am! (7) Gable repeated his lies
in the April 1993 and August 1994 issues of Searchlight, and his
sidekick, the goy “Nazi-hunter” Graeme Atkinson, echoed them in a
briefing paper he prepared for a so-called “anti-racist” confer-
ence. (8)
Another point is that although the actual arson campaign was
despicable and cowardly, it was by no means entirely one-sided.
In a personal communication dated 25th Oct. 1994, Mr Colin Jordan
informed the current writer that “among the many attacks on our
NSM premises there was an occasion when an attempt was made to
set fire to it by pouring petrol through the front door and
igniting it – however it was on a Saturday evening when people
were in the premises who almost immediately became aware of the
blaze and put it out.”
Finally, neither Helen Jacobus and certainly not the Jewish
Chronicle has any excuse for being conned by Gable over this
piece of nonsense – if they were conned rather than willing
accomplices to his fabrications. The current writer sent copies
of the first edition of his synagogue arsons expose to staffers
Hadas Altwarg, Chaim Bermant and the Jewish Chronicle Library.
The silence was deafening.
Back to the JC article, Gable is said to have been linked with
the 62 Group. Actually he was a member. (9) Next we come onto the
other fantasies about the original Searchlight Organisation. The
Searchlight broadsheet is said first to have appeared in 1964;
actually there was a grand total of four issues, thus:
No 1: Spring 1965.
No 2: undated.
No 3: Spring 1967.
No 4: undated.
It ceased publication in 1967 rather than 1968; the claim that
Gable was its research editor is unsupported by any evidence bar
the unsubstantiated assertions of a many times proven liar, Gable
himself. He is mentioned nowhere in the official papers of the
original organisation, (which was called the Searchlight Associa-
tion), either as any sort of “intelligence organiser” or direc-
tor. Copies of these documents may be obtained from Companies
House.
A full set of Searchlight including the broadsheet, is held in
the Wiener Library. In issue 4, it was announced that its first
editor Reginald Freeson MP, who had received a government ap-
pointment, was being replaced by Joan Lestor, M.P. Page 7 an-
nounced that Freeson was resigning “with this issue”. However, no
further issues appeared; it is not at all clear if Lestor did in
fact edit even this copy of the “magazine”, the last issue.
The next claim in the JC article, that rather than publish an
occasional broadsheet Gable decided to concentrate on building up
an elaborate network of “volunteers” infiltrating Nazi “terror-
ist” organisations, is a gross distortion. And no one has ever
been brought to trial on account of Searchlight’s so-called
intelligence gathering, and certainly not for any terrorist
offences. (10) The reality is that Gable’s “moles” working inside
the far right incite the less intelligent members of such organi-
sations to commit criminal acts in order to tar them all with the
same brush, that of the stereotype of baby-eating Nazis propaga-
ted by the lying propaganda of certain Jewish mischief-makers and
communist fellow travellers in Hollywood and other bastions of
anti-Aryan racial hatred.
The claim that Searchlight named the leaders of the National
Front and spelt out their convictions is true. But sauce for the
goose, sauce for the gander, so here goes:
Gerry Gable: conviction for burglary artifice and theft, January
1964.

Graeme Atkinson: European editor of Searchlight, convicted for
distributing anti-National Front leaflets in October 1974. (11)

Mike Luft: Ditto.
Richard David Roberts, former Searchlight mole and agent provoca-
teur: convicted at Birmingham, March 1976, for conspiracy to
assault the staff of an Indian restaurant; subsequently gaoled
for assaulting National Front members.
Manny Carpel, Searchlight “researcher”: gaoled at Lewes, Sussex,
April 1981 for two and a half years for arson.
Ray Hill: gaoled for two and a half years at Birmingham Assizes,
July 27, 1962, for wounding and grievous bodily harm on a police
officer in the process of stealing cigarettes. Convicted December
8, 1968 of assault occasioning actual bodily harm on a press
photographer. Convicted of assault on a Jewish cafe owner, July
1979. (12) Wanted in South Africa for credit card fraud and
theft. (13)
What was that about the pot calling the kettle black? Back to the
JC. Gable’s alleged claim in this article that “We don’t work for
the police, we work with the police” is nonsense of the first
order. It is true that in the past some police officers have
indeed been duped by Gable and his fellow travellers, but it is
not true that the police are as gullible and as dim-witted as
Gable likes to make them out to be. It was the police, not the 62
Group, and certainly not him, who solved the 1965 arsons, for
example. And the police have by and large ignored the masses of
“evidence” Gable and his partners-in-slime have unearthed over all
manner of mythical Nazi conspiracies, from the totally fictitious
1981 Notting Hill bomb plot to the current day adventures of the
quasi-mythical Combat 18.
Far from being any sort of agent of law enforcement, official
or otherwise, Gable and his fellow travellers in the anti-fascist
(ie communist) movement, sail very close to the wind themselves
when it comes to the criminal law. The violence directed by some
of their number against the police at sundry public demonstra-
tions needs no documenting here. Some groups, Anti-Fascist Action
for example, openly incite violence, and advocate it in their
magazine Fighting Talk. At the time of writing, two members of
this group of organised thugs are on bail following a horrific
and potentially fatal unprovoked attack on a West of England
former National Front member in his own home. Gable’s main role,
apart from recruiting “moles” to incite violence and thereby
demonising both fascism and white racial consciousness, is to
prevent legal political “parties” and other organisations (such
as the BNP) from holding any meetings at all, even on private
property. Neither Gable himself nor the anti-fascist movement in
general has any respect either for the criminal law or for the
civil law, as the police and other authorities well know.
Returning to the JC article, Gable is said to have asked Jaco-
bus. “If you find out a group is planning to lob hand grenades
into a school hall, what are you going to do?” Jacobus calls this
a rhetorical question, in reality it is a totally hypothetical
question, because again, Gable’s Nazi-hunting fantasies have
never led to anyone being arrested for any such activity, which
in any case has never happened in Britain outside of the context
of Northern Ireland or Middle East related terrorism. The current
writer was told by someone who knows Gable and who himself has
genuine “links” with Special Branch that the SB don’t want to
know him. Independent researcher and conspiracy theorist Larry
O’Hara, who has been libelled by Gable more times than I’ve had
hot dinners, seems to think Gable is some sort of Kosher James
Bond. The reality is that Gable, along with many other journal-
ists, has been used here and there to peddle secret state disin-
formation and black propaganda. The fact that Gable is a (racial)
Jew makes him a useful errand boy for such official disinformers,
because if he is caught with his hand in the till – as he frequ-
ently is – his machinations can be blamed on the all-pervasive
Jewish (or Zionist) conspiracy, and his detractors written off as
lunatic anti-Semites. (14)
The Vice-President of AJEX is said to be an admirer of Search-
light, as is Mike Whine, the so-called defence director of an
organisation which has the effrontery to call itself the Board of
Deputies of British Jews. But this latter is hardly surprising,
because Whine is almost as big a liar as Gable is. (15) However,
not all Jews are either Machiavellian schemers, arch-liars or
Gable’s dupes: the Board’s Raymond Kalman is said to have attri-
buted an outbreak of vandalism in Jewish cemeteries in 1990 to
hooligans and copycats, as undoubtedly it was. (16) Gable on the
other hand blamed it on the international Nazi conspiracy. (17)
Next, Gable claims that his father volunteered for the RAF.
What are the facts? Walter William Gable was born in London in
December 1904. He served in the RAF as a Leading Aircraftman (No
1467918) from September 16, 1941 until March 6, 1946. Which means
that the Second World War was two years in the waging before this
super-patriot “volunteered” to defend his country against the
wicked Nazis. If he hadn’t volunteered he would almost certainly
have been called up anyway. But although there is no reason to
dispute Gable’s claim that his father was an anti-fascist street
fighter, ie a Jewish thug, there is a very good reason to believe
that he didn’t give a monkey’s about defending Britain, or even,
perish the thought, the Jews, from Hitler.
That reason is that Gable is obviously cast from the same mould
as his dear old Dad, which means that Walter anti-fascist Gable
was almost certainly a communist. (18) And the communists were
every bit as opposed to the “Imperialist War” as were the British
Fascists, and did their damndest to undermine the war effort,
until Hitler showed his true colours and attacked their beloved
Soviet Union. (19)
Gable’s claim that at the 1991 invasion of the League of St.
George’s meeting at Kensington Library he stopped his goy fellow
travellers from stamping on the Union Jack is another fantasy, or
perhaps he’s just winding up the gullible Jacobus. The reason he
attempted to stop the violence was solely because he panicked
when former Mosleyite Jeffrey Hamm was knocked to the ground.
Hamm, who was in his mid-seventies and suffering from Parkinson’s
disease, died shortly afterwards. There is no evidence that this
incident shortened his life, but it certainly wouldn’t have
lengthened it. And there is certainly no evidence that the Stur-
mer-like Gable is “pro-British” any more than the misnamed Jewish
Chronicle is pro-British. (20)
The claim that Mrs Gable, the former Sonia Hochfelder, worked
as a BNP infiltrator for several years is nonsense of the first
order. Gable has been married three times, the first time at the
age of 19 to Mariana Josephine Amon. This marriage was short
lived, but his third marriage, to sweet Sonia, took place at
Redbridge Register Office on November 17, 1984. (21)
As the British National Party was only founded in 1982, (22)
this wouldn’t have left much time for Sonia to infiltrate the
organisation, if she had. In fact, she was never a member; she
was a member of the National Front, and of the National Party,
and of the League of St. George, but she was never a mole.
The well-known former Mosleyite Keith Thompson says that he
first met Sonia around 1977: “…she’d been in some lunatic
Maoist organisation at Imperial College, where Brady was. She
went into the NF, made donations to the National Front, worked
very well, worked very hard, seemed in every way genuine. Ob-
viously we never really trusted her but it seemed unlikely to me
that she was a spy because she looked so much like a spy; she was
a walking caricature of a Jew really.” (23)
Yes, the man did say she was a Jew. In reality she was only
“half a Jew”. (24) “I said to Sonia Hochfelder: ‘Are you a Jew?’
She said: ‘My father used to be.’ Those were her exact words. Her
mother was a Gentile, her father used to be a Jew. They lived
within 200 yards of me at one point.” (25)
Thompson told me that at one point Sonia had been engaged to
Malcolm Smith, a member of the National Front Directorate. I
contacted Smith and he said that although he and Sonia had been
very friendly, they had not actually been engaged; he was shocked
to learn that she was now married to Gable. Another person who
had been very friendly with sweet Sonia is Steve Brady, who has
been the victim of Gable’s vituperation on more than one occa-
sion. However, he too was more than a little chivalrous about his
– undoubtedly – former lover. Others on the far right have been
less so. (26)
Proof positive that Sonia was no sort of mole is the correspon-
dence which appeared in League Review, the theoretical journal of
the so-called international Nazi liaison umbrella organisation
the League of St. George. Sonia contributed to this journal, and
made no secret of either her Jewishness or her passionate Zion-
ism. So much so that in the August 1978 issue, C. Horner com-
plained thus: “Dear Sir, I am heartily sick and tired of Jew S.
Hochfelder’s ceaseless efforts to force this troublesome tribe of
self chosen people down our throats…Must their infiltration,
whining and take-over be put up with even in the last bastions of
white-racial circles?”
Sweet Sonia was also featured in an early issue of Searchlight;
(27) no way was she any sort of mole! There is no evidence even
that she knew Gable at this point in time, in truth, she was just
a crazy mixed-up Jewish girl. And frankly, there is no shortage
of those. (28)
The claim that Gable took over the editorship of Searchlight on
the death of Maurice Ludmer is not quite true either; Ludmer died
in May 1981 and was succeeded by Veronica (or V’ron) Ware, who
later went to live in the States. Also, in May 1985, Gable told
the magazine Media Week that Searchlight was edited by “an
‘established journalist’ who does the job on a voluntary basis.”
He declined to name him. (29) The claim that Gable suffered a
heart attack is totally implausible since he obviously hasn’t got
one.
The claim that a letter bomb was sent to Gable’s home is du-
bious, I’m not suggesting that he sent it himself, but apart from
a disgruntled member of Combat 18 or the BNP, there is no end of
possible suspects. One of the “anti-fascists” he has smeared; the
MP and former MP whose careers he tried to destroy; the Black
Separatists his magazine referred to as worms; almost any member
of the anti-Zionist left. Brian Gentleman, the gullible civil
servant he tried to set up as a Czech spy; Sun journalist Garry
Bushell who sued him for libel; and not a few more. Incidentally,
this alleged bomb was delivered to Gable about the same time that
a real bomb was delivered to the British National Party’s HQ,
where it exploded and slightly injured BNP member Alf Waite.
Whatever the truth about Gable’s bomb, he should worry less about
explosives coming through his letter box than about libel writs.
Finally, it is worth noting that at the 1992 trial in connec-
tion with the fracas in Kensington Library, Gable’s barrister
claimed that his client had twice paid Keith Thompson, then of
the League of St. George, three figure sums for supplying him
with information on the extreme right. (30) While there is no
question that Gable lied to attempt to discredit a major prosecu-
tion witness, there is no reason to doubt that Gable does regu-
larly pay “Nazis” and his various “moles”, and almost certainly for
information on criminal acts which they themselves incite. You
might like to consider that before you renew your subscription to
this so-called anti-fascist journal. You might also like to phone
the Jewish Chronicle and ask them why they give not just unwar-
ranted credibility but any space at all to this hate-filled
little shit-stirrer. Does anything go in the struggle against
eternal anti-Semitism? Including giving anti-Semites a real case
against the Jews?

Alexander Baron,
Sydenham,
South London,
Sunday, March 19, 1995.
Notes And References
The articles on the front cover of this pamphlet were published
in the Jewish Chronicle, November 13 and December 25, 1964 re-
spectively; they are alluded to on page 2.
(1) For the full, documented story of these attacks, the interes-
ted reader is referred to my pamphlet A REVISIONIST HISTORY OF
THE 1960s SYNAGOGUE ARSONS, 2nd Edition, published by Anglo-
Hebrew Publishing, (1994).
(2) The driving force behind it was in fact Mrs Jordan. Later she
fled to her native France but returned in 1967 and the following
January was gaoled for 18 months for her part in inciting the
fires.
(3) This allegation appears first to have been made in print in a
pamphlet co-written by a Searchlight Organisation agent provoca-
teur in 1973, although at the time of the arson trials, Gable’s
hatemongering co-racialists in the 62 Group tried to frame Colin
Jordan by bribing witnesses.
(4) If Mr Jordan had issued an ordinary libel writ, Ludmer
wouldn’t have had a leg to stand on, but criminal libel is a
different matter, prosecutions are few and far between. The
magistrate dismissed the application, but he did say that the
words used were prima facie libellous, as indeed they were, he
also branded Searchlight scurrilous and disreputable, as indeed
it is. The judgment was delivered by the Birmingham Stipendiary
Magistrate Mr John Milward on December 30, 1976.
(5) Mr Gottesman is today more or less able-bodied, and works as
a shochet in Manchester.
(6) YARD REPORT ON JEWISH COLLEGE FIRE, published in the Hackney
Gazette AND NORTH LONDON ADVERTISER, December 22, 1964, page 1.
(7) Boy dies in London Yeshiva fire, published in the Jewish
Chronicle, November 13, 1964, page 1.
(8) The grandly titled Racism and fascism in the European Union
Report prepared for the conference EUROPEAN YOUTH: UNITED ACTIONS
AGAINST RACISM AND NATIONALISM! February 13-20, 1994, Strasbourg,
France Organised by UNITED FOR INTERCULTURAL ACTION. The author
of this “report” appears to share not just Gable’s ideology but
his fantasies as well. A former employee of the Morning Star
communist newspaper, Atkinson was sacked after he claimed to have
been approached by Bulgarian Intelligence!
(9) Lobster, issue 12, undated but cDecember 1986, page 35.
(10) The one exception appears to have been Tony Wells aka Lecom-
ber, who assaulted a Jewish teacher. Surprisingly, Wells, a
leading member of the diminutive British National Party, has
something in common with Gable. He is both very plausible and
very nasty.
(11) A criminal offence in the wake of a General Election. Atkin-
son is also said to be wanted for questioning in Sweden in con-
nection with his allegedly roughing up a thalidomide victim.
(12) Reported in the Jewish Chronicle, July 13, 1979, page 10.
This assault actually occurred ten years earlier. If Hill hadn’t
jumped bail and skipped the country at the time he’d almost
certainly have been sent to gaol on account of his then recent,
previous conviction.
(13) For the full murky background to Searchlight “mole” Ray
Hill, the reader is referred to the current writer’s Liars Ought
To Have Good Memories, published by InSoText Manuscripts, London,
(1994).
(14) For a detailed exploration of this theory the reader is
referred to the current writer’s How The Searchlight Organisation
Incites Hatred Against Jews: A Fresh Look At The Scapegoat Theory
Of Anti-Semitism And The World Zionist Conspiracy – with the full
text of the “Gable Memorandum”, published by Anglo-Hebrew Pub-
lishing, London, (July 1994). For a comprehensive refutation of
the nonsense of Larry O’Hara, he is referred to Searchlight On
Gerry Gable: Secret State Asset Or Liability? A Critique Of Larry
O’Hara’s Flawed Conspiracy Theory, published by Anglo-Hebrew
Publishing, London, (August 1994).
(15) See my recently published …Public Reply To The Ongoing
Libels Of Organised Jewry… for an expose of this Zionist fana-
tic’s mischief-making.
(16) A rare article shedding light on this unpleasant subject
appeared in the Vancouver Sun, February 22, 1985, page A6.
Church arson not rare: all denominations suffering from attacks,
statistics show, by Rick Ouston, reported that arson attacks on
religious premises caused nearly $6 million damage in British
Columbia since 1980. There was an average of 12 arson attacks a
year, and other crimes, vandalism, etc.
(17) The reader is referred in particular to the following: Anti-
semitism: the spectre Britain ignores?, by Tim Kelsey, published
in the Independent, June 10, 1990, page 10. This is an interest-
ing article in which Gable claimed that a Jewish-born informer
inside the British Movement predicted an attack on a Jewish
cemetery in Edmonton, North London. (And undoubtedly supplied the
aerosol cans). Spectre of racism hangs over Europe, MEPs warn, by
Andrew Culf, published in the Guardian, July 24, 1990, page 2. A
report on a committee chaired by Searchlight fan Glyn Ford.
Searchlight was said to have warned the Board of Deputies about
the desecration of an Edmonton cemetery three weeks before it
happened. Again, rather suspicious foresight, one would have
thought. And Grave attacks linked, by Richard Holliday, published
in the Mail on Sunday, August 5, 1990, page 23. A worldwide
fascist network was said to be behind the desecration of Jewish
graves. Gable’s “informants” said they were co-ordinated by the
BM, the BNP, and German and Dutch fascist groups and the Ku Klux
Klan. Again, this is pure fantasy.
(18) The misnamed anti-fascist movement was largely a front for
the extreme left even in the 1930s.
(19) Even the Jewish Chronicle was wise to this. On the front
page of its April 19, 1940 issue it ran a story HITLER’S WORLD-
WIDE “FIFTH COLUMN” Fascist Anti-Semite Traitors JEWISH WARNINGS
CONFIRMED, in which it proclaimed: “Pro-Fascists are endeavouring
to spread internal dissension by stirring up hatred against the
Jews. Communists are pouring out propaganda that the war is being
waged in the interest of capitalist Imperialists, and their paid
agents are active among munition workers and even the armed
forces.” The reader is referred to I Believed, the autobiography
of the time-serving communist turned Roman Catholic, Douglas
Hyde, for a more detailed and critical study of “anti-fascist”
double standards and perfidy.
(20) Or pro-Jewish for that matter; one of my Orthodox Rabbi
friends likened it to the gutter press Sun.
(21) Gable calls himself a Jew, yet all three of his marriages
were in Register Offices, and by his own admission he has never
been a member of a synagogue!
(22) The New National Front was inaugurated on June 22, 1980.
John Tyndall founded the NNF on breaking away from the National
Front proper. Two years later the party changed its name to the
BNP.
(23) Keith Thompson interview April 26, 1994.
(24) Any Rabbi will tell you there is no such thing, but that’s
beside the point!
(25) Keith Thompson interview, (op cit).
(26) According to one account, Sonia was a right old slapper;
according to another, “Gable stirs Brady’s porridge!”
(27) Her photo appears in issue 24, (undated but probably June
1977).
(28) Rather than passing information on the National Front to
Searchlight, I have it on good authority that when Brady brought
Sonia into the NF, she passed on information to the Front about
her former left wing loony friends!
(29) TO KNOW THE RIGHT, by Bob Huntley, published in Media Week,
May 10, 1985, page 34.
(30) According to Thompson in a telephone conversation Saturday,
March 18, 1995, the barrister claimed that on two occasions Gable
had paid the Hitler fan and Bunny Girl, Samantha Flynn, L500 and
L450 respectively for documents which were allegedly stolen from
Thompson’s premises. This money was meant to have gone to Thomp-
son, who denied all knowledge of it. Thompson also said that
Flynn was a raving anti-Semite. One can only wonder how much
money Gable has passed onto anti-Semites and kooks over the
years, money which obviously comes in large part from his Jewish
supporters. Also, there remains a distinct possibility that he
paid the stunningly attractive Flynn for services totally unrela-
ted to the heroic struggle against fascism.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> What “facts”does Mr. Edeiken have wrong? The “facts”concerning where Mr. Baron
> was and why in 1983 and 1985? Mr. Baron cannot answer this as it would
> show him in very poor light.
If you know the “facts” Harry, please post them. Please post your source also.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> > > So you admit that 30,000 Jews were interned at concetration camps
> > > immediately after Kristallnacht but that this means that Jews wren’t
> > > interned prior to Britain declaring war on Germany? You’re getting rather
> > > bizzare in your rationalizations, Al.
I’m not rationalising anything, simply stating what I believe, sincerely, to
be the true facts. If you can’t live with that, that’s your problem.
> FYI, the first releases of the Kristallnacht Jews started at Sachsenhausen
> about a week after Kristallnacht. Mostly the aged, sick, and handicapped.
> (They weren’t supposed to have been arrested in the first place, but the
> SA was _very_ zealous in its roundup.) This was due to the fact that the
> concentration camps were so crowded by the mass arrests (Sachsenhausen
> incresed its population by 150% in three days) that they were intolerable
> and that there were fears of epidemics because of the extreme privation of
> the prisoners.
So what you are saying is that the Nazis were so concerned that the people they
had interned without just cause would die from typhus etc that they let them go?
> This, of course, took time. It Allowed the Nazis to hold on to the
> prisoners to terrorize the “free” German Jews, with the means, into
> leaving the country. It also soon became clear that the Jews could “buy”
> their way out of the camps by selling everything they owned to the Nazis-
> becoming destitute in the process. It wasn’t until well into the spring of
> 1939 that all the Kristallnacht Jews were eventually released.
I’ve heard this before. Unfortunately I’ve also seen reports that Jews who
emigrated to Britain at the time set up factories and the like and bettered
the economy. You people can’t have it both ways.
> Some “mistake.” I dare say one couldn’t have _planned_ a better “mistake”
> if they tried. (Which they most certainly did.) You’re simply pathetic,
> you that that, Al?. Simply pathetic.
Not so. The Israeli government made a similar “mistake” in 1992 when it
expelled 412 innocent men and caused an international incident. Not on the
same scale as Kristallnacht, granted, but neither did Hitler raise a neigh
bouring city to the ground (Beirut) as did Saint Rabin.
> > 2,500? Really? Are you suggesting that the authorities deliberately spread
> > typhus?
> And are you, Al, suggesting that the “authorities” don’t have the moral,
> if not legal, responsibilities, to ensure humane conditions on those they
> choose to incarcerate?
You’ve just stated that these people were released from fear of epidemics.
Now you want it both ways.
>That is it okay do perfectly fine to subject people
> to extreme privation, brutality, torture, and disease? Are you suggesting
> that such abuse and neglect, even if unintentional, is even remotely
> morally defensible?
My dear chap, as a Libertarian I find most of what all governments do
objectionable and indefensible. There was no civil asset forfeiture in Nazi
Germany as in the US, and as far as I know it was illegal to torture
suspects in police custody, unlike in Israel. Let he who is without sin.
> Oh, my. The _London_ Times! How edifying, Al. There’s only probably “only”
> around 3,000 issues of the paper on microfilm to look at now! How kind of
> you to “narrow” it down, Al!
How about the index?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> Perhaps a visit to Leeds might help clarify who Mr. Baron really is. Or, better
> yet,
> Mr. Baron’s very intimate friend, Mr. Aaron Silvers could illuminate us.
Harry, I am sure that Yale will back me up on this: if you have no facts or
evidence, create doubts, use innuendo, sneer…it’s an old lawyers trick.
If you knew what you were talking about you would post the facts. You don’t,
so shut up Harry, don’t make yourself look foolish anymore. Someone in England
has fed you some names and some lies, and told you to repeat them here, but you
don’t know anything Harry. So shut it.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> That, however, is not as important as his sudden acceptance that Ms Newton-John
> might indeed be an environmentalist (as I asserted and he denied) and that she
> might indeed spend a considerable proportion of her time counselling women who
> have suffered breast cancer (which I asserted and Mr. Baron denied) He now
> states that he didn’t ‘know’ about either of these valuable contributions that
Harry, why does someone who makes so much about the suffering of Jews – a few
million at most – heap praise of dangerous fanatics whose goal is to exterminate
the greater part of mankind? Wake up to the cancer of environmentalism, Harry.
These people make Hitler look positively benign.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “m w grossmann” writes:
> I’m sure that is was nothing but oversight that you left out the 9-0 1954
> Brown v. Board of Ed (Kansas) decision which overturned Plessey v.
> Ferguson and the summated with, “Separate can never be equal.”
There is an excellent account of this in Carlton Putnam’s Race and Reality
which exposes the duplicity of the court “experts”. The case was clearly a
political gerrymander. What it said, in effect, is that a black kid can’t
get a good education unless he sits next to a white kid. Which bodes ill indeed
for kids in places like Nigeria where there are no – or hardly any – whites.
And of course, it is nonsense.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
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Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> Lyin’ Al, who stated that there is tons of evidence for Jewish ritual
> murders (which he didn’t believe) is now reduced to the use of his silly
> analogies. Where is the evidence, Lyin’ Al? You stated it existed weeks
> ago. Why can’t you produce a single bit of evidence?
Changing the subject again, Yale. Try reading one of the Jewish encyclopaedias.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Oh, cut the crap, Baron.
> Answer a simple question, if you can, and if not, shut your
> trap. Your pathetic evasions are doing “revisionism” no good.
> I repeat the question:
> Why do you accept at face value evidence about the alleged “Irgun”
> actions against the British occupation forces, or your father’s
> tales from WW2, while rejecting practically each and every
> evidence to the Holocaust?
You say I reject practically all the evidence of the Holocaust, that is not
true Dan and you know it. I accept that Jews were interned in camps, and that
they were murdered in them, I accept that atrocities were committed etc. I
accept that medical experiments were performed. I do not accept that there is
proof that the Nazi High Command ordered the extermination of the Jews and I
do not accept that there is sufficient proof that the numbers you say were
murdered were indeed murdered in gas chambers. That is all. I have also given
my reasons in depth for believing this, and you yourself admit that some of
the evidence adduced by Exterminationists (the baby in the gas chamber, the
tale of Litwinska, the jumping bucket, etc) is incredible. What’s the problem
Dan? See your psychiatrist.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “jean-francois beaulieu” writes:

> Subject: HOLOCAUST FAQ: The “Leuchter Report” (1/2)
> Post to soc.history, alt.revisionism:
> Recently, a FAQ was send here from the nyzklor project. It is suppose
> to be a response to revisionism despite it contain little answer
> when someone dig a bit. This posting is a reply to the majority of
> anti-revisionnist technical arguments wich are generally use in
> alt.revisionism.
Our new friend may not write perfect English, but there’s nothing wrong with
either his logic or his methodology. What say you Dan?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 4 06:54:17 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> :>Mr. Aaron Silvers would probably agree.
> May I enquire as to who is Mr. Aaron Silvers?
This information has been in the public domain for over a year: in particular
A GOY PRIES INTO THE TALMUD and THE CHURCHILL PAPERS. Anyone who wants to find
out the truth can order these publications from their library and read them.
Alternatively they can listen the innuendoes of the demented Harry Mazal.
That is my final word.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 4 13:25:12 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> The idea central to the Brown ruling was the realization that
> “separate is inherently unequal” — an idea which was supported by the
> hard evidence showing that separate facilities for education of
> blacks were funded far worse than facilities for white students —
> despite the lip-service to equality we find in the Plessy decision.
Wrong. Check out Putnam, RACE AND REALITY.
I think you might also profit from reading Weyl: THE JEW IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
He is also co-author of THE GEOGRAPHY OF INTELLECT.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> Is this the pamphelet in which you make allegations about Irving’s
> private life and (once agaibn) show off your revolting homophobia to
> the rest of the world?
It’s actually a full length, illustrated book.
—
Alexander Baron

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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> From the testimony of SS-Unterscharfuehrer Wilhelm Bahr:
> [Quoted in “Truth Prevails”, ISBN 1-879437-00-7, p. 99].
> ——————————————————————-
> Q: Is it correct that you have gassed 200 Russian POW’s with Zyklon-B?
> A: Yes, on orders.
> Q: Where did you do that?
> A: In Neuengamme [concentration camp].
Big problem Dan, there is no mention of a gas chamber in Neuegamme in
the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust. I think this one must have slipped
through, my little Kosher Krazy.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 4 22:55:32 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> Other then your bigotry and ignorance, why are you citing a
> case that was reversed by a 9-0 vote of the Supreme Court? To cite a
> case that has been reversed is the legal equivalent of citing the Mueller
> Document as fact. It once more proves, if such proof is needed at this
> point, that you are:
> 1. a bigot;
> 2. an incompetent;
> 3. an intellectually dishonest fraud;
> 4. an incompentent researcher and historian.
Not at all Yale, and you haven’t answered the question of how a black kid can’t
get a decent education without sitting next to a white one. Ironically, there
was a news report on British TV a while ago about an all-black school in
England. The kids who had been sent here had all been disruptive and done
poorly in ordinary (ie integrated) schools. There was said to have been
considerable improvement in their performance.
The reason is not far to seek. Black kids – Negroes – learn at different rates
>from whites. When they are very young they are more precocious but the learning
curve flattens out earlier. This is well documented but has been suppressed
for political reasons. The reason there is so much disruption by black kids is
that when they can’t keep up with their white classmates they get resentful.
Black “under-achievement” is usually blamed on racism, which is really ironic
since no profession is more left wing than the teaching profession. Not in
Britain anyway.
–
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Tue Dec 5 10:00:41 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> Suppose that there was a book titled _English_REitual_Murder_ published
> in Quebec City, alleging that anglophones practiced ritual murder.
> I think that you would then see some ophblic outcry over the book.
I don’t think so. Has there been an outcry over the claim that AID was
invented by the “white controlled” CIA to wipe out blacks?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Tue Dec 5 10:39:36 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> You’re lying again, Lyin’ Al. You identified those two paper as
> the most “influential” papers in the United States.
They are, they are both taken by the White House to start with. Check out
Lilienthal.
> As Harry would tell you,
> check
> with Aaron Silvers.
Re Harry, first a) all that information has long been in the public domain
and b) Harry doesn’t know what he is talking about because the same Jews who
are lying ABOUT me are lying TO him.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Tue Dec 5 10:39:37 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> Suppose that there was a book titled _English_REitual_Murder_ published
> in Quebec City, alleging that anglophones practiced ritual murder.
> I think that you would then see some ophblic outcry over the book.
I don’t think so. Has there been an outcry over the claim that AID was
invented by the “white controlled” CIA to wipe out blacks?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 08:24:59 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article
[email protected] “Frank Weltner” writes:
> > [Note: Michael Howard is himself a Jew, being the son of a refugee, from
> > Rumania in the 1930s.]
Howard has done more than any goy Home Secretary to keep these monsters off
our backs. He is obviously hated by the filthy cabal at Woburn House because he
has consistently put service to his country over service to them.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 08:25:00 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Real Case Against The Jews
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> “Case against the Jews,” huh? Well, at least you’ve given up the
> pretense that your complaints are against anyone but Jews qua Jews.
Actually it’s a pun on a Nazi anti-Semitic tract. Jews who endorse liars
simply because they are Jews and when the truth has been spelt out to them,
deserve to be hated.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 08:25:01 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
The information that I have collected from multiple sources
> is accurate, dreadfully accurate.
You’ll see how accurate it is when I shove it right up your arse. Which may
be sooner than you think. Watch this space.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 08:25:01 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> What we’re trying to do, as you surely have realized, is to elicit
> [Moran, note proper use of this word] from you a statement from which
> we can begin to understand your criteria for evidence; we believe (and
> your reticence to cooperate shows that you may, too) that this will
> expose a double standard — that you will eventually either have
> to admit the veracity of the Holocaust (including homicidal gassings)
> or else retreat into absolute skepticism about historical events
> in general.
I believe it is very difficult to assess the truth of anything any
government tells us, especially in war time. I believe also that anyone
who accuses Jewish organisations of propagating lies will be smeared as
an anti-Semite.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 08:25:02 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: And where are your names?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, tom moran wrote:
> > What do you have to say about the historically documented record that
> >Israel has and has had a policy of shooting down children for throwing
> >stones?
> How many children were shot for throwing stones, and what are their
> names? You claim there is a historically documented record. You’re the
> prosecutor here. When I hear charges, I like to get particulars.
This has been posted already. My evidence comes from an Amnesty International
Press Release dated May 1993. Over 30 were killed, including a young girl
on her way to buy milk. Write to Amnesty or dig out my posting CHARITY BEGINS
AT HOME, the one the slime of Organised Jewry referred to the Attorney General.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 08:25:02 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> The first known case of a murder of a Jew, during what was called
> Kristallnacht, was reported to Goebbels on November 10, 1938.
Was this before or after the murders of Wilhelm Gustloff and Vom Rath? Let
me rephrase my proposition: The Nazi Government did not murder Jews in
peacetime. Individual Nazis certainly committed crimes against Jews, but
these were illegal acts. Even the Jewish Chronicle records this.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 08:25:03 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: One question for Mr. Baron
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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> > Not so. The Israeli government made a similar “mistake” in 1992 when it
> > expelled 412 innocent men and caused an international incident. Not on the
> > same scale as Kristallnacht, granted, but neither did Hitler raise a neigh
> > bouring city to the ground (Beirut) as did Saint Rabin.
> And this is supposed to legitimize the Nazis, Al? The discussion at hand,
> Al, is Nazis behavior during Kristallnacht. Your continued evasions don’t
> change this one bit.
No, what I am trying to do is de-demonise [sic!] the Nazis, and to show that
many of their staunchest critics have long been doing their best to emulate them.
With considerable success in the case of the Zionists.
> > My dear chap, as a Libertarian I find most of what all governments do
> > objectionable and indefensible. There was no civil asset forfeiture in Nazi
> > Germany as in the US, and as far as I know it was illegal to torture
> > suspects in police custody, unlike in Israel. Let he who is without sin.
> So you then agree that what the Nazi did, destroying private property and
> confiscating assets and torturing and imprisoning Jews, during and after
> Kristallnacht was extralegal even under Nazi law? Or do you assert that
> such barbarism was “legal” under Nazi law? If so, do you find it
> justifiable?
The Nazis perverted the rule of law in exactly the same way the British, Israeli,
US and many other governments have. Compare their laws with 18b in Britain,
the Prevention of Terrorism Act, Civil Asset Forfeiture or the authorised
torture of prisoners in police custody – the latter in Israel.
> > How about the index?
> Ever here about _properly_ citing references, Al? Or must you continue to
> cover up your inadequacies as a “researcher” by offering such red herrings
Actually I’ve given all the references in my book. If you don’t want to buy it
or order it, E-mail Josh.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 08:25:04 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
As Dr. Keren was kind enough to quote
> the exact particulars [“Truth Prevails”, ISBN 1-879437-00-7, p. 99] of
> the book, the very _least_ Mr. Baron could do is look it up. Not so hard
> for a chap that has rarely given a correct citation in his life.
I’ve read the book, it’s an hysterical polemic. But what else would one
expect from a book about Holocaust Revisionism edited by a creature named
Shapiro?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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In article
[email protected] “Sara aka Perrrfect” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, Tim Vawter
Where have you been, my little Sharon fruit?
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Thu Dec 7 23:30:52 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> > Alexander Baron writes:
> > You never tire of repeating your lies, Yale. Mueller document again.
> Did you or did you not cite a document as evidence
> without having read it or investigated its bona fides?
I cited the Mueller document which had been used UNCHALLENGED IN EVIDENCE. No
one can check every source. If you have to find some information – drug
seizures or whatever – you go to a reference book, the FBI, official statistics,
and cite those. If you have no good reason to query it you are being perfectly
honest. No one, I repeat, NO ONE, can check EVERY FACT. What honest people do
though is admit they’ve been conned when they have. I have never seen any
evidence that any Exterminationist has ever done anything like that in this
group. You are a liar, you are a traducer, and you are a filthy hypocrite. But
you’re also a Jew, so it doesn’t count.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 8 06:51:03 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Keith Morrison” writes:
> What is that? Is it the sound of one man back-pedelling?
You are an arsehole, either that or you are so brainwashed that you think
all “Nazis” behave the way some Jews expect them to behave. Troll back through
my posts relating to Rodney King and you’ll see what I mean.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 8 06:51:04 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> > Alexander Baron writes:
> > If I recall, I said the Nazis didn’t shoot Jewish children the same way
> > the Zionists did during the Intifada.
> Your memory is no better than your research.
Your memory is selective.
> By the way, have you ever
> heard of the Boston Massacre?
Tell me more.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 8 06:51:05 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
dmittlem[email protected] “Daniel Mittleman” writes:
> Kluger, Richard. _Simple justice : the history of Brown v. Board of
> Education and Black America’s struggle for equality_. New York :
> Knopf, 1976.
> I strongly recommend it to anyone interested in Brown v. BOE and the
> related cases that came before the court. Actually, I strongly
> recommend to anyone who does not think non-fiction can be as rich as
> fiction that they take a look at the book in a library or bookstore and
> just read page one. You will be impressed.
The differential learning rates of Negroes and whites is so well documented
it’s hardly worth referencing. Check out THE TESTING OF NEGRO INTELLIGENT, of
IQ AND RACIAL DIFFERENCES, the work of Jensen, Eysenck and scores of others.
Check out statistics, Check out Nathaniel Weyl’s THE GEOGRAPHY OF INTELLECT.
The only “controversy” is in the media, but that’s hardly surprising when one
considers the sort of people who run it.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> In the meantime, perhaps you might tell us about 1983 and 1985.
> Those court cases have long since been closed, have they not?
Let Harry tell you, then perhaps he might tell me.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> I think one word of clarification is required here, Al, and it is important.
> You say that you do not accept “…there is proof that the Nazi High Command
> ordered the extermination of the Jews….”. I am not sure how you define the
> expression “Nazi High Command”, but if by that, you mean the leaders of the
> Nazi Party, I would take umbrage with your statement. The extermination of
> the Jews was ordered by Adolf Hitler, the Fuehrer (Leader) of the Nazi Party
> (and just about everything else in Germany) and I would classify that as the
> Nazi High(est) Command. A nit perhaps, but an important one.
That is simply not true. Unless you’re going to throw around his Reichstag
speech as “proof”.
Hitler gave no such order. If there were such an order it would surely have
been written. It does not exist.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron Cannot Answer a Simple Question (About Hoessler)
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> I ask Baron again: do you still consider Hoessler’s testimony
> “physically impossible” or “very improbable”? I have asked
> you this more than ten times during the past month; still, you
> haven’t answered.
Sorry Dan, I’m not avoiding you, but I don’t read every message and I have
other groups I visit. I consider his testimony eyewash. I presume you are
referring to the claim that he took someone out of the “gas chamber”? If,
as we are told, people were gassed hundreds at a time, I consider that it would
have been physically impossible for him to don a mask, go into the chamber and
fish out a particular Jewess. If you don’t see that then I don’t know what I
can say.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 8 16:14:24 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 95 21:49:10 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Some schools were integrated with the help of the national guard because
> some state governments refused to obey the law and admit black children
> to formerly all-white schools. When the law is broken, should the
> government just ignore it?
What if the law says you must sacrifice your first born?
You are saying that you approve of white kids, and black kids, being forced
to integrate, against their will, at the point of a bayonet. And you say shame?
> Such as the notion, stated above, that blacks and whites “learn at
> different rates.”
Read the scientific literature, there’s enough of it: Garrett, Coon,
Shockley, Shuey etc, etc.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 8 16:14:25 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: One question for Mr. Baron
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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> As the accepted history of Kristallnacht refutes your assertions as to the
> spontaneity od Kristallnacht, could you be so can as to relate the salient
> arguments that support your beliefs? Be sure to cite references to these
> arguments so that we may examine the research material you based your
> arguments on!
I wonder if you’ve read Weckert’s book on Kristallnacht? It’s researched
>from primary sources, and apart from her nonsense about mysterious Zionist
agents provocateurs, she makes out a strong case.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Apology to Jamie
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this is an apology to Jamie and anyone else I appear to be ignoring. I’ve
got three affidavits and tons of other stuff to do before Christmas and
some after so I can’t spend too much time lurking in the group. Anyone
who has a genuine question which I have missed please E-mail it and I’ll
answer it when I can.
Love and kisses,
Al
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 8 16:14:26 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Real Case Against The Jews
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Cut out the very unnecessary modifiers, and you get “Jews deserve to
> be hated.” Which is, fundamentally, the consistently Jew-obsessed
> message which you have posted from day one.
You miss the point, John, wilfully. I have exposed a tissue of lies in this
pamphlet and others on the same subject. The “Jewish Chronicle” has consistently
defended a man who has lie to them, solely because he is “one of us” and Baron
is a dumb goy. That bespokes a distinct lack of integrity. The “Jewish
Chronicle” has been joined in this perfidy by representatives of another
Zionist organisation. In short, these people have behaved exactly the way
the more lunatic anti-Semites claim all Jews behave.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Shockley is a notorious crank. I’ll check the others, but given
> your proclivity for…erm, odd and eccentric sources, I doubt I’ll
> find much of value.
Shockley was the inventor of the transistor. He was marginalised by the
hate campaign. You don’t even have to check out the scientific literature; in
Britain there have been endless reports from teachers and schools bemoaning the
“under-achievement” of blacks which is put down to “racism”. In Britain, the
teaching profession is redder than red, which does make that a bit of a joke. It
has also been shown here that black kids do better in segregated schools. I
believe there is evidence that kids do better in single sex schools too. It’s
well known that girls mature faster than boys.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 16:16:03 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:

> A few comments there, schllepo.
> First, let me state that neither Shamir, nor Raful, nor Begin,
> were ever heroes of mine. However:
> 1) Begin made the infamous “two-legged beasts” reference strickly
> with regard to terrorists who murdered civilians.
Terrrorists like Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir?
>As such, it
> cannot be regarded racist. Yigal Amir, the (Jewish) Israeli who
> murdered Israeli PM Rabin, was also called such names, including
> “mad dog” by various Israeli figures.
So when I attack certain Jews in similar terms, I am not being “racist”
either. Thank you for your absolution, Dan.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 16:16:04 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> Mr. Baron is going to abandon this newsgroup until ‘after Christmas.’ Time
> to really celebrate.
No such luck Harry, I’m just not able to spend all day replying to your ravings.
> He also signs off in a most suspicious manner. For someone with apparently
> strong homophobic sentiments, Mr. Baron is quite surprising.
Actually Harry, what I meant was kiss my arse. Wouldn’t you just love to do
that? More good news coming very soon. Watch this space.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist Liar
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> As a matter of act, Lyin’ Al, you have have admitted that you never
> even read the Mueller Document before you cited it as evidence let alone
> made even a basic enquiry as as to its authenticity. That is intellectual
> dishonesty
> at its worst. Moreover, the Mueller Document never had the status of reference
> material; it is the type of material that any honest researcher would have, at
> the
> very least, checked upon. A simple reading would have raised questions that
> would have to be answered before you presented it as reality.
Bore, bore, bore. Like I sais Yale, no one can check every “fact” and, I submit,
people are entitled to quote what they consider to be established facts. If you
check out an old encyclopedia on science you will find that most of the references
to sub atomic particles are completely wrong, though they were accepted at the
time. You’re just trying to make capital.
The rest of your post is a tissue of misrepresentations but I will take on
five of them here.
> 4. Your claim that Al Capone was tried and convicted for carrying a
> concealed deadly weapon in Philadelphia and that he was denied bail before
> the trial.
That is true as far as I know; I found it in a standard book on Capone and
footnoted it. If it is wrong then again I accepted a “fact” I didn’t check
thoroughly. But again, one cannot check every “fact” and one can carry on
this business reductio ad absurdum.
Let me give you another example re the Mueller document. Earlier this year
the Times published an article reporting a speech of a Polish sociologist in
which he repeated, uncritically, the claim that the Nazis made Jews into soap
which was called “ryfka” and sold to the Poles. The journalist did not ask for
evidence, he simply quoted this “fact”. He was not being dishonest. I wrote to
the paper with documentation on this lie from 1980 and received an
acknowledgement. One can make out a case here for the paper being dishonest by
refusing to retract. When the Mueller document was drawn to my attention and
I had satisfied myself it was a fake I retracted. That is as honest as any man
can be, but perhaps your legal training tells you otherwise. Why don’t we
take a vote on it? Ask Dan Keren, Mike Stein and all and sundry if Al lied over
this. Ask John Morris. You’re just trying to make capital Yale, and you’re not
succeeding.
> 5. Your claim that the King David Hotel was blown up while the
> the British army was attempting to defeat the nazis in Europe.
Actually I claimed that Begin luanched his war against the British at the time
the British were fighting the Nazis in Europe, February 1, 1944. The King David
Hotel was one of a number of atrocities.
> 8. Your claim that there exists good evidence — in which you do
> not believe — that Jews committed ritual murder.
The court in the Beilis case declared that a ritual murder had taken place.
Is the verdict of a court not good evidence?
Re Christina Jefferies, again I have explained this; it was reported so in
an American anti-Semitic newspaper which is usually reliable on facts though
not on interpretation. I cited my source and when it was discredited I retracted.
I haven’t seen you or any of your cabal have the decency to retract any lie
you may have parroted innocently in this newsgroup. What I have seen is Dan Keren
PhD and others perform intellectual gymnastics to try to explain away gassed babies
and all manner of other nonsense for the obvious reason that they are afraid that
once they make one concession to the Revisionists the whole network of lies
will come crashing down like a house of cards. Well I’ve got news for you Yale,
it’s coming down anyway, and I will be playing a major part in it in future.
Watch this space.
> 9. Your claim that AIDS cannot be transmitted by heterosexual acts.
I never said that, what I said is that AIDS is primarily a disease of
homosexual related filth. I am fully aware of the blood transfusion and
drugs angles too, although as you may not be aware, some scientists believe
HIV is a harmless passenger virus.
> Do you care to dispute my research methods. You tell your version and
> I will _prove_ mine.
See above: res ipsa loquitur.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 16:16:05 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Some Questions for Mr. Baron
(Was:Re: A Revisionist History Of The 1960s Synagogue Arsons)
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Pathetic, Mr. Baron. From the many reams of environmental literature
> out there, you reach way down into the furthest reaches of extremism,
> pull up an irregularly-published with a circulation of 2500, put out
> by a fringe group with a handful of members, and try to pass it off
> as typical. Think you can find something similar from, say, the
> Sierra Club? Even Greenpeace?
Actually, you will find that my views on environmentalism are par for the
course for Libertarians. If you want confirmation, mail the Libertarian Alliance
and ask them to send you their bibliography on it. There are several good studies
on it published in the USA.
By the same token you could argue that Hitler was “the further reaches of Nazi
extremism”. After all, the Dutch Nazi Party admitted Jewish members, and
Mussolini had Jews in his government.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 16:16:06 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> And how does this relate to the fact that the author’s name was
> Shapiro? Is there some rule preventing anyone named Shapiro
> from being Mr. Baron’s kind of Jew?
I’ve read the book. Ms Shapiro is clearly a Sturmer type Jew.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 16:16:07 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: AMERICAN “INVESTIGATORS” TORTURED GERMANS
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
>How, then, do
> “revisionists” explain the very detailed descriptions of mass
> murder in gas chambers given by these SS-men before German
> courts (I am talking both about those who stood trial and those
> who were witnesses)?
These confessions are not very detailed Dan, and they are a mass of contradictions.
Most of them amount to “Please sir, it wasn’t me”.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:29 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Face it Baron, all you write about “British help for the
> Jews in WW2” is garbage. England didn’t give a damn on how
> many Jews, or Gypsies, or anyone, was being murdered by
> the Nazis. Had Nazi Germany restricted itself to mass
> murder of civilians only, England would not have moved a
> finger to help.
No Dan, they didn’t believe the Zionist-sponsored lies.
> I’m not saying, BTW, that England was worse than most other
> nations in this respect.
But we’re all worse than the Jews, right Dan? For the record Dan, my Rabbi
friends – the ones who don’t exist – believe that the Zionists did their
best to stop Jews entering the US and other countries because they wanted them
to go to Palestine. Your friend Vrba made similar noises.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> A typical , well-researched bit of hate from Lyin’ Al. There was
> not a single lynching by blacks against a white in the American south.
> You’re a lying, ignorant bigot Al Baron. Citing nameless and non-existent
> bigots to propagate your lies. For the first time back them up. Name
> this “academic” so we can read his work and laugh for ourselves.
in 1872, armed blacks broke three whites out of gaol and shot them to death.
check out “Lynching” by Thomas Jackson. I haven’t seen the book but the review
looks sound. Then come back and apologise you traducing slimeball. By the way
Yale, how do you know the Protocols is a fake? Have you read the original
documentation, the court notes, etc? Have all the people who denounce the
Protocols as a fake read the original documents?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:31 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> 2) To put it plainly, Mr. Baron, there are some things which need to be
> done at the point of a bayonet.
“Mein Fuhrer, the people are refusing to boycott the Jews; they are disobeying
the law.”
“Then send the troops in and make them boycott the Jews at the point of the
bayonet, my dear Himmler.”
“But Mein Fuhrer, I can’t do that.”
“Of course you can, Himmler, don’t you know that some laws have to be enforced
at the point of a bayonet? Even Jake Klein will tell you that.”
Philosophy student? Arsehole.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:32 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Some Questions for Mr. Baron
(Was:Re: A Revisionist History Of The 1960s Synagogue Arsons)
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> Where do you find the origin of the word _environmentalism_, Mr.
> Baron? Perhaps in John Muir, or perhaps elsewhere. But I defy
> you to show me either that the generalizable tenets of environ-
> mentalism or its historical legacy show a necessary connection to
> genocide.
I would suggest you send an E-mail to [email protected] and
ask them to send you a couple of their critiques of environmentalism.
American Libertarians also publish some excellent material in this field.
E-mail to Libernet digest and ask them.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:33 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Baron’s Father in WW2 (Re: Baron is a Chicken (Re: Bar
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> If a written order were produced tomorrow, you would simply label it a
> forgery.
That is not necessarily the case, but any such document would have to be
properly scrutinised.
>I do not claim it was written in any event; I believe the best
> evidence is that it was transmitted verbally.
In other words you are speculating, you have no evidence. In view of the
Nazi obsession with bureacracy and the reliance on “superior orders” I find
this untenable. If such a programme were to be carried out, involving thousands,
many of them would have wanted, nay demanded, written orders to make sure
the buck stopped elsewhere.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:33 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Just Following Orders
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Alexander Baron writes:
> # I’ve read the book. Ms Shapiro is clearly a Sturmer type Jew.
> I’ve actually met Mrs. Shapiro (she happened to visit Brown
> University, together with Mrs. Anna Rosmus). I found her to
> be a very intelligent, and very nice, person.
So was Ted Bundy. Stalin too was highly intelligent and cultured. Hitler was an
abstemious vegetarian who loved small children and animals. People who seekt to
destroy our rights, and seek to destroy us, often are.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:34 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist Liar
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Alexander Baron wrote:
> >The court in the Beilis case declared that a ritual murder had taken place.
> >Is the verdict of a court not good evidence?
> The court at Nuremberg declared that the Holocaust had taken place.
> Is the verdict of a court not good evidence? You tell me.
The ball is actually in Mr Edeiken’s court. He assumes that a court decision
is the final word. In a legal sense, yes. But by the same token, at least
one ritual murder took place.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:35 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: AMERICAN “INVESTIGATORS” TORTURED GERMANS
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 95 01:23:53 GMT
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Moreover: can you name one SS-man from Treblinka, from Belzec,
> from Sobibor, from Chelmno, who said no gassing took place
> in one of these camps? ONE?
The line Dan – check Sereny – is that these camps were destroyed so
no evidence remained. Assuming there was any in the first place.
> From the statement of Hans Stark, registrar of new arrivals, Auschwitz:
Why don’t you quote the “testimony” of Wiernik, or of Martin Gray for that
matter. You’re a laugh a minute, Dan.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:35 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Where is YOUR critical faculty, Dan?
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Alexander Baron writes:
> Baron, I’m making an honest attempt to understand what you’re
> trying to say. As far as I can tell, you’re saying the
> following:
> “Since Jews were accused of ritual murder, and this accusation
> was untrue, this implies that the accusation that the Nazis
> practiced mass murder is also untrue”.
> This is, essentially, what you’re saying, right?
No Dan, what I’m saying is that you take at face value the most outrageous
garbage peddled by liars such as Kitty Hart, Rudolph Vrba and Litwinska while
you reject as nonsense evidence about ritual murder etc from historical sources
which is essentially the same.
> “Since Jews were accused of ritual murder, and this accusation
> was untrue, this implies that the accusation that the
> Communists practices mass murder is also untrue”.
But who says it’s untrue? Who has refuted the claim about the ancient Greeks?
Scholars just assume it is untrue.
Who has refuted the research of Thomas of Monmouth? Historians simply claim
that he was lying.
“The first known accusation of ritual murder against Jews is that recorded
by the historian Posidonius…he found a Greek captive in the Temple who
told him that every seven years the Jews captured a Greek, fattened him up,
killed him, ate parts of him, and took an oath of undying enmity against
Greeks. Since the story is completely unbelievable…” why?
People have told stories which are fairly consistent with that throughout
history. How do we KNOW this story is false? I put it to you that it has
just as much credibility as Hart’s gassed baby story perhaps even more, because
it is recorded by a competent historian who may well have cross-examined the
witness while by your account Hart was merely repeating hearsay.
Where is the difference Dan? I’ll tell you where: one is accusing Gentiles of
lying about Jews the other is accusing Jews of lying about Gentiles. That’s
the difference. I call that brainwashing, Dan.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:36 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Baron Keeps Evading (Re: Baron Cannot Answer a Simple Question)
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> It’s not surprising that Baron would do something like this; it’s
> a common “revisionist” tactic. What is surprising is that Baron
> tried to pull something like this when the source involved is
> easily available.
Or maybe Baron didn’t notice it? IF I’ve made a mistake I’ll retract
like the honest man I am and leave the blatant lying to your co-racialist
Edeiken, but I have read some of the original transcripts and I will
be chasing them up again soon after Christmas, and I warn you Dan, they
do not say what you want them to say.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Mon Dec 11 22:13:37 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Baron and Hoessler’s Testimony, Again (Re: Apology to Jamie)
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Is it because Baron, again, lied about the testimony, and quoted
> Hoessler as having said things he never, ever, said?
Dan, a while ago you stated that because there is so much “evidence”
concerning the Holocaust that it stands to reason some of it must be
false, but that you have never read any that is patently false. Except
the Revisionists’ “lies” of course.
Would you like to estimate what percentage of the Belsen Testimony is true,
and identify those parts that are false? I mean did both Hoessler and Litwinska
tell the truth, both of them?
What about Bendel, was he being 100% correct?
I’d like to know Dan. Exercise your critical faculty.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Tue Dec 12 19:50:49 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Baron humiliates Mazal yet again
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Daily Telegraph, December 30, 1978, page 32:
“Other artists honoured [includes] Olivia Neton-John and Tommy Steele, singers…”
Exactly what contribution to “environmentalism” had miss Newton-John made by
1978 one wonders, and wasn’t that just a little while before her medical
problems?
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> Odd. If the defendant (presumably Jewish?) was acquitted (i.e. not guilty)
> of the murder, how could it then be a Jewish ritual murder?
The court ruled that a ritual murder had taken place. Not that the defendant
had committed it. The nature of the Russian government may have had something
to do with it.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> > Have you read the original documentation, the court notes, etc?
> Has Mr. Baron read them? How good is his Russian?
You haven’t read them then, the trial was in German.
> > Have all the people who denounce the Protocols as a fake read the
> > original documents?
> No need to. Far more intelligent historians than Mr. Baron have done so. His
> argument is specious.
In other words, you are prepared to quote other historians without examining
the evidence first hand. Exactly the way I was re the Mueller document.
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Alexander Baron

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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
Apologize for WHAT, Lyin’ Al? For pointing out your lies once again.
> You cite
> an incident — place unidentified — from a book you haven’t read and ask us to
> believe
> that your version of what it says supports your point? You are laughable as a
> researcher.
> As a liar, you’re not very good either.
Are you saying this is a lie? He who asserts must prove.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> “Chief, there’s a guy up on top of that tower with a rifle, and he’s
> picking off pedestrians at random.”
> “Oh, well… tough luck, but there’s nothing we can do about it.”
> “Sure there is. We could storm the tower and arrest him.”
> “No, no. Nothing must ever be done at the point of a bayonet. Haven’t
> you read your Alexander Baron?”
So you consider whites refusing to send their kids to school with blacks
equivalent to murder. Nuff said.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Wed Dec 13 19:05:07 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Where is YOUR critical faculty, Dan?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> The ritual murder story alledges that Jews, whose religion explicitly
> forbids them to eat human beings, ate a human being. Now, it is not
> impossible for a Jew to eat another human being, any more than it is
> impossible for the ruling party in an industrialized society like
> Germany to mass-murder millions. The difference is that, so far as
> we know from their own words and deeds, Jews have been loathe to
> practise canibalism, wheras Nazis had no compunction about murdering
> untermenschen.
In other words, the Nazis were the type of people who would have done it,
therefore they did it.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Wed Dec 13 19:05:08 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Some Questions for Mr. Baron
(Was:Re: A Revisionist History Of The 1960s Synagogue Arsons)
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> Yes. The Objectivist Club on our campus waged a poster campaign
> promoting the view that environmentalism was was tantamount to
> genocide. I suppose they were just as surprised as you are when they
> found themselves marginalized as cranks.
Environmentalism preaches that the Earth is over-populated and that the life
of a “sea bass” to use the Green Anarchist phrase is worth more than yours,
mine or Harry Mazal’s. Whatever Harry thinks about me, I happen to think he
is worth more than that.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Wed Dec 13 23:14:37 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: How Baron Lies
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Yale F. Edeiken” writes:
> For his frenzied polemics, Lyin’ Al needed evidence that
> Capone was an innocent man persecuted by the police. He,
> therefore, invented one out of whole cloth. Of course, Lyin’ Al
> does notwant us to look to closely at his sources. He lies.
You obviously disapprove of what I said about Capone. Do you feel the same
way about what I said about Hitler in the same pamphlet?
Oh, by the way. Did you also find the date and details of Capone’s murder
convictions?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 14 19:29:13 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> The fact that Mr. Baron will not admit is that he was once slighted by his
> hero, Mr. David Irving, with whom he once collaborated.
Harry, you are either lying – or more likely – you have been fed a pack of
lies. I have NEVER collaborated with David Irving in anything.
>In response,
> Mr. Baron has published some rather tasteless pamphlets about Mr.
> Irving and his personal life.
Mr Baron has published ONE full length, documented book about him. That’s all.
> Wherever did Mr. Baron get the idea that I had lived in England?
I assumed that being an OBE you had. If I have made an incorrect assumption
about your address I have also made one about your gullibility, because if you
believe half the crap that your “friends” have told you, you are one stupid
mother.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 14 19:29:14 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article
[email protected] “David Johnston” writes:
> In article [email protected] (Mark
> Van Alstine) writes:
> >> A while ago I found “literature” being peddled by a charity in Britain
which > >> incites the murders of policemen…
> >Which charity, Al? What “literature?” And did said “literature” violate
> >British law?
Send me your address and I’ll send you a comp copy. Then you can apologise.
Any of our American friends want any they can send me a donation, say $3.
One pound to other UK residents.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 14 19:29:14 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron humiliates Mazal yet again
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In article <[email protected]>
Harry W. Mazal OBE “[email protected], San Antonio, Texas” writes:
> Ms Newton-John and her cousins, Drs. Peter and Marlene Ehrenberg have been
> environmentalists for decades. If Mr. Baron doubts this, he can take a trip to
> the
> Yucatan and check out the rain forest that houses the Mexican Yellow-headed
> parrot.
Why would they give her an OBE for “environmentalism” when Edward Goldsmith,
who founded the Ecologist hasn’t got one?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 14 19:29:15 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
panki[email protected] “Jerzy Pankiewicz” writes:
> Jeff is very brave, but he doesn’t include his e-mail address.
[email protected]
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Thu Dec 14 19:29:16 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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alt.discrimination,alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: WHAT PATTON SAID (was: Is Griswold making things up again?)
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Les Griswold writes:
> [Alleged quotes from Patton’s diaries]
> Can a more exact location be provided? I’m not saying that Griswold
> is lying; he may be telling the truth – I don’t know. However, it
> would help to know where exactly are these quotes (in which book,
> or archive).
I read this quote years ago by a far right source but have no idea of
its provenance.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 15 07:14:39 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 20:49:39 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Michael P. Stein” writes:
> The black and white kids were being segregated and kept segregated by
> the use of force.
Not true.
> Somehow you turn this protection of the physical safety of the black
> students into forcing them to integrate at the point of a bayonet. And
> you’re presuming to call others crazy and/or dishonest?
You will find this “problem” everywhere people from different racial groups
are imposed on others by force. Even in Israel!
I’ll post some Weyl soon.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 15 07:14:39 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron and Hoessler’s Testimony, Again (Re: Apology to Jamie)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 20:52:26 GMT
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Your claim that “there is a dearth of anything about gas
> chambers” is idiotic. They are definitely mentioned.
So are the steam chambers and lots of other lies.
> Cut the crap. I’ve read much more of this testimony than you have,
> and I found it, on the whole, to be rather accurate. Fuchs,
> Suchomel, Stangl,
Exactly what does Stangl say? There’s precious little in Sereny’s book.
Furthermore, didn’t he appeal against his sentence?
> Second, this is untrue. There are numerous human remains in
> Treblinka, for instance.
And in your local crematorium, but what does it prove?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 15 07:14:40 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron and Hoessler’s Testimony, Again (Re: Apology to Jamie)
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In article <[email protected]>
> Very convenient for you to misrepresent the state of the evidence. How
> do _you_ explain the presence of human bone fragments and ash to a
> depth of seven metres where the Treblinka cremation pits were supposed
> to be?
Accordingto whose ruler, John?
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Fri Dec 15 07:14:41 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron’s Big Chance (Re: RABIN-STERN GANG/IRGUN OR???)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 20:56:25 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> In fact, the British were well aware of the extermination of the Jews
> as they had been apprised of it long before the War Refugee Board
> requested their assitance in a rescue operation in January 1944.
They were aware of the propaganda, but they didn’t believe it.
>The reason for the British refusal was the same
> as that of the War Department’s resistance to administration orders to
> conduct rescues: the thinking was that relief of the victims would
> come quickest through winning the war.
Not so, again, they didn’t believe it, and they were very well informed.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Fri Dec 15 07:14:42 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: How Baron Lies
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> Why did you lie about what the source had to say about Capone?
I didn’t lie and I don’t think I made any mistakes either. If I cited the
source – which you said wasn’t accurate – then it is my source you should
blame.
> >Oh, by the way. Did you also find the date and details of Capone’s murder
> >convictions?
> Strictly on memory, I don’t recall Capone ever being convicted
> of murder.. as I recall, it was tax evasion that finally put
> paid to Mr. Capone.
Ah, so Capone was never convicted of murder, but you brand him a murderer
anyway. If I’d say all the things you’ve said about a Jewish “gangster” you’d
have been screaming about anti-Semitism. Could it be then that you hate
Italians as much as you say I hate Jews?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 16:47:05 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 20:57:55 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Is this really how you choose to view this, Mr. Baron? It is, to say
> the least, an eccentric reading of school integration, and I can only
> be charitable and attribute it to an utter dearth of knowledge concerning
> American history and society.
I know more about it than you seem to think.
> Either that, or you’re a lying racist bastard.
And what exactly is a “racist”?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 16:47:06 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Tell, me, Mr. Baron–what do you think of the idea of forcing blacks and
> whites to use the same drinking fountains “at the point of a bayonet”?
> Afraid you might get some of those Awful Negro Cooties? Hmm?
It’s actually a question of property rights. How about forcing men and women
to use the same toilets? “Equal opportunities” in certain loony London boroughs
now means that a toilet attendant of eithe sex can man the gents. That’s
progress?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 16:47:06 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: How Baron Lies
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> i.e.
> that he told the police officer he was carrying a weapon, and
> did so quite deliberately.
In other words, he was an honest man.
> The entire article, demonstrating the precise nature of your
> lies, is available as URL
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 16:47:07 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: Another Silly Analogy from Lyin’ Al
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[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> The fact that the gormless Mr. Baron was taken in by the Mueller
> document at all says something about the veracity of the sources where
> he obtains his information about the Holocaust, though I am quite sure
> that Mr. Baron does not quite understand exactly what it says.
The other day the Prime Minister was asked a question about BSE in cattle;
he answered – citing a government scientist – that as far as he knows, beef
is certainly safe. Did he read this report, did he verify it? No. As Prime
Minister he doesn’t have time to check every fact. No one can check every fact,
and people often cite sources without reading them. When HONEST men, like me,
are taken in, they admit it. When the likes of Dan Keren are taken in by garbage
about jumping buckets and babies surviving gassings they try to explain it away
or rationalise it. I have never consciously endorsed a lie about the Holocaust.
I can’t say that for most people here.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> :>Why would they give her an OBE for “environmentalism” when Edward Goldsmith,
> :>who founded the Ecologist hasn’t got one?
> Gee, Al, why do they give only 1 Best Actor Oscar each year, even though
> several actors may have given great performances?
Edward Goldsmith’s contribution to environmentalism is unparalleled, certainly
by Miss Newton-John, who had in any case made no contribution to it in 1978.
Nuff said.
—
Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 16:47:09 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> :>You haven’t read them then, the trial was in German.
> I have read them, Al. Wanna play?
Fine. Who was the British Fascist who appeared for the defence at both
the Berne Trial and the South African trial?
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Good God, Al; in your never-ending attempt to deflect the scope of the issue,
> you throw in this red herring. The idea of integration of all people with
> the aim of equality of opportunity for all, must gall you immensely. It is
> not Jews who wish this; it is all decent people.
It is organised Jews, socialists and people with agendas. Forced race-mixing has
nothing whatever to do with equality of opportunity as Thomas Sowell, Walter
Williams, Ayn Rand and many others will tell you.
> Lipstadt has you down to a “T”, right bud?
Lipstadt is a polemicist.
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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 16:47:10 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Maybe Mr. Mazal digs, Al, but I don’t dig. Please enlighten me. Mr. Mazal’s
> posts cast a rather dubious light on one Alexander Baron, and he seems to be
> aided and abetted by Mr. Edeiken. If I read Mr. Mazal’s intimations
> correctly, he would seem to imply that (1) your real name is not Alexander
> Baron (or it is, and you have used the alias Aaron Silvers),
He can imply all he likes.
>(2) your
> abhorrence of homosexualism may be affected,
this is a well worn piece of homosexual propaganda; by the same token, Dan
Keren’s abhorrence of Holocaust Revisionism is affected. On second thoughts,
perhaps that’s not a very good analogy.
> (3) you may have done time in
> British gaols (spelling as a favour), and (4) you have had some kind of
> relationship–now on the rocks–with David Irving.
Harry and his co-racialist Mr Edeiken can speculate all they like but I have
no intention of commenting on anything remotely concerning legal proceedings
in this group.
> I personally couldn’t give a damn about these things, except for the fact that
> you started it all.
No I didn’t.
>So, I would like to know where the truth lies and why
> Mr. Mazal is not already in court, if he has slandered you?
Because I am not suing Mr Mazal!
> Else one
> possibility (theoretical at least) is that Mr. Mazal is right.
One more time. Allegations have been made against me by many people.
Talk is cheap but proving them in a court of law is a different kettle of fish.
I am not in litigation with Mr Mazal and don’t expect ever to be, but I am
in litigation with people on this side of the Pond and have no intention of
commenting on any aspect of this litigation or anything touching on it, so I
will continue to ignore Mr Mazal’s rants and raves, and in any case he doesn’t
know what he is talking about because he has been briefed by liars.
—
Alexander Baron

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From: Alexander Baron
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Some testimonies must be fake, says Dan, it stands to reason. But I
have never read one that was obviously and blatantly faked. Only that
by Revisionists. Try the following, Dan, and this time exercise a little
critical faculty.
$FOR THOSE I LOVED$, by Martin Gray, Translated from
the French by Anthony White, published by The Bodley Head, Lon-
don, (1973).
page 127: at Treblinka, after being deported by trains, “SS men,
Ukrainians holding lashes, cudgels poised to land on heads and
backs. A loudspeaker, a cool voice repeating, $Men to the right,
women and children to the left$.”
Sure, he saw this, huh?
page 128: “Whips in hand, wearing black, SS men were walking
among the naked, catching some by the arm and making them dress
again.”
straight out of Hollywood
page 130: “I saw prisoners killed with shovels. I saw dogs attack
inmates.”
perhaps they were economising on ammunition
page 143: “One evening Moishe failed to return to the hut. Ivan
shot him near the kitchen because he wasn’t running fast enough.”
Moishe was one of the prisoners employed in disposing of the
bodies; very unsporting of the SS to shoot a stretcher bearer. Get real,
Dan.
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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 21:41:32 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Is this really how you choose to view this, Mr. Baron? It is, to say
> the least, an eccentric reading of school integration, and I can only
> be charitable and attribute it to an utter dearth of knowledge concerning
> American history and society.
I know more about it than you seem to think.
> Either that, or you’re a lying racist bastard.
And what exactly is a “racist”?
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Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 21:41:32 PST 1995
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li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Tell, me, Mr. Baron–what do you think of the idea of forcing blacks and
> whites to use the same drinking fountains “at the point of a bayonet”?
> Afraid you might get some of those Awful Negro Cooties? Hmm?
It’s actually a question of property rights. How about forcing men and women
to use the same toilets? “Equal opportunities” in certain loony London boroughs
now means that a toilet attendant of eithe sex can man the gents. That’s
progress?
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 21:41:33 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> i.e.
> that he told the police officer he was carrying a weapon, and
> did so quite deliberately.
In other words, he was an honest man.
> The entire article, demonstrating the precise nature of your
> lies, is available as URL
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Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 21:41:34 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> The fact that the gormless Mr. Baron was taken in by the Mueller
> document at all says something about the veracity of the sources where
> he obtains his information about the Holocaust, though I am quite sure
> that Mr. Baron does not quite understand exactly what it says.
The other day the Prime Minister was asked a question about BSE in cattle;
he answered – citing a government scientist – that as far as he knows, beef
is certainly safe. Did he read this report, did he verify it? No. As Prime
Minister he doesn’t have time to check every fact. No one can check every fact,
and people often cite sources without reading them. When HONEST men, like me,
are taken in, they admit it. When the likes of Dan Keren are taken in by garbage
about jumping buckets and babies surviving gassings they try to explain it away
or rationalise it. I have never consciously endorsed a lie about the Holocaust.
I can’t say that for most people here.
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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 21:41:34 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> :>Why would they give her an OBE for “environmentalism” when Edward Goldsmith,
> :>who founded the Ecologist hasn’t got one?
> Gee, Al, why do they give only 1 Best Actor Oscar each year, even though
> several actors may have given great performances?
Edward Goldsmith’s contribution to environmentalism is unparalleled, certainly
by Miss Newton-John, who had in any case made no contribution to it in 1978.
Nuff said.
—
Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 21:41:35 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> :>You haven’t read them then, the trial was in German.
> I have read them, Al. Wanna play?
Fine. Who was the British Fascist who appeared for the defence at both
the Berne Trial and the South African trial?
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Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 21:41:36 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Good God, Al; in your never-ending attempt to deflect the scope of the issue,
> you throw in this red herring. The idea of integration of all people with
> the aim of equality of opportunity for all, must gall you immensely. It is
> not Jews who wish this; it is all decent people.
It is organised Jews, socialists and people with agendas. Forced race-mixing has
nothing whatever to do with equality of opportunity as Thomas Sowell, Walter
Williams, Ayn Rand and many others will tell you.
> Lipstadt has you down to a “T”, right bud?
Lipstadt is a polemicist.
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Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sat Dec 16 21:41:36 PST 1995
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Maybe Mr. Mazal digs, Al, but I don’t dig. Please enlighten me. Mr. Mazal’s
> posts cast a rather dubious light on one Alexander Baron, and he seems to be
> aided and abetted by Mr. Edeiken. If I read Mr. Mazal’s intimations
> correctly, he would seem to imply that (1) your real name is not Alexander
> Baron (or it is, and you have used the alias Aaron Silvers),
He can imply all he likes.
>(2) your
> abhorrence of homosexualism may be affected,
this is a well worn piece of homosexual propaganda; by the same token, Dan
Keren’s abhorrence of Holocaust Revisionism is affected. On second thoughts,
perhaps that’s not a very good analogy.
> (3) you may have done time in
> British gaols (spelling as a favour), and (4) you have had some kind of
> relationship–now on the rocks–with David Irving.
Harry and his co-racialist Mr Edeiken can speculate all they like but I have
no intention of commenting on anything remotely concerning legal proceedings
in this group.
> I personally couldn’t give a damn about these things, except for the fact that
> you started it all.
No I didn’t.
>So, I would like to know where the truth lies and why
> Mr. Mazal is not already in court, if he has slandered you?
Because I am not suing Mr Mazal!
> Else one
> possibility (theoretical at least) is that Mr. Mazal is right.
One more time. Allegations have been made against me by many people.
Talk is cheap but proving them in a court of law is a different kettle of fish.
I am not in litigation with Mr Mazal and don’t expect ever to be, but I am
in litigation with people on this side of the Pond and have no intention of
commenting on any aspect of this litigation or anything touching on it, so I
will continue to ignore Mr Mazal’s rants and raves, and in any case he doesn’t
know what he is talking about because he has been briefed by liars.
—
Alexander Baron

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Some testimonies must be fake, says Dan, it stands to reason. But I
have never read one that was obviously and blatantly faked. Only that
by Revisionists. Try the following, Dan, and this time exercise a little
critical faculty.
$FOR THOSE I LOVED$, by Martin Gray, Translated from
the French by Anthony White, published by The Bodley Head, Lon-
don, (1973).
page 127: at Treblinka, after being deported by trains, “SS men,
Ukrainians holding lashes, cudgels poised to land on heads and
backs. A loudspeaker, a cool voice repeating, $Men to the right,
women and children to the left$.”
Sure, he saw this, huh?
page 128: “Whips in hand, wearing black, SS men were walking
among the naked, catching some by the arm and making them dress
again.”
straight out of Hollywood
page 130: “I saw prisoners killed with shovels. I saw dogs attack
inmates.”
perhaps they were economising on ammunition
page 143: “One evening Moishe failed to return to the hut. Ivan
shot him near the kitchen because he wasn’t running fast enough.”
Moishe was one of the prisoners employed in disposing of the
bodies; very unsporting of the SS to shoot a stretcher bearer. Get real,
Dan.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:16 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Is this really how you choose to view this, Mr. Baron? It is, to say
> the least, an eccentric reading of school integration, and I can only
> be charitable and attribute it to an utter dearth of knowledge concerning
> American history and society.
I know more about it than you seem to think.
> Either that, or you’re a lying racist bastard.
And what exactly is a “racist”?
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:17 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> Tell, me, Mr. Baron–what do you think of the idea of forcing blacks and
> whites to use the same drinking fountains “at the point of a bayonet”?
> Afraid you might get some of those Awful Negro Cooties? Hmm?
It’s actually a question of property rights. How about forcing men and women
to use the same toilets? “Equal opportunities” in certain loony London boroughs
now means that a toilet attendant of eithe sex can man the gents. That’s
progress?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:18 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: How Baron Lies
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Ken McVay OBC” writes:
> i.e.
> that he told the police officer he was carrying a weapon, and
> did so quite deliberately.
In other words, he was an honest man.
> The entire article, demonstrating the precise nature of your
> lies, is available as URL
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:18 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Another Silly Analogy from Lyin’ Al
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “John Morris” writes:
> The fact that the gormless Mr. Baron was taken in by the Mueller
> document at all says something about the veracity of the sources where
> he obtains his information about the Holocaust, though I am quite sure
> that Mr. Baron does not quite understand exactly what it says.
The other day the Prime Minister was asked a question about BSE in cattle;
he answered – citing a government scientist – that as far as he knows, beef
is certainly safe. Did he read this report, did he verify it? No. As Prime
Minister he doesn’t have time to check every fact. No one can check every fact,
and people often cite sources without reading them. When HONEST men, like me,
are taken in, they admit it. When the likes of Dan Keren are taken in by garbage
about jumping buckets and babies surviving gassings they try to explain it away
or rationalise it. I have never consciously endorsed a lie about the Holocaust.
I can’t say that for most people here
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:19 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Baron humiliates Mazal yet again
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> :>Why would they give her an OBE for “environmentalism” when Edward Goldsmith,
> :>who founded the Ecologist hasn’t got one?
> Gee, Al, why do they give only 1 Best Actor Oscar each year, even though
> several actors may have given great performances?
Edward Goldsmith’s contribution to environmentalism is unparalleled, certainly
by Miss Newton-John, who had in any case made no contribution to it in 1978.
Nuff said.
–
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:20 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> :>You haven’t read them then, the trial was in German.
> I have read them, Al. Wanna play?
Fine. Who was the British Fascist who appeared for the defence at both
the Berne Trial and the South African trial?
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:20 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Good God, Al; in your never-ending attempt to deflect the scope of the issue,
> you throw in this red herring. The idea of integration of all people with
> the aim of equality of opportunity for all, must gall you immensely. It is
> not Jews who wish this; it is all decent people.
It is organised Jews, socialists and people with agendas. Forced race-mixing has
nothing whatever to do with equality of opportunity as Thomas Sowell, Walter
Williams, Ayn Rand and many others will tell you.
> Lipstadt has you down to a “T”, right bud?
Lipstadt is a polemicist.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:21 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> Maybe Mr. Mazal digs, Al, but I don’t dig. Please enlighten me. Mr. Mazal’s
> posts cast a rather dubious light on one Alexander Baron, and he seems to be
> aided and abetted by Mr. Edeiken. If I read Mr. Mazal’s intimations
> correctly, he would seem to imply that (1) your real name is not Alexander
> Baron (or it is, and you have used the alias Aaron Silvers),
He can imply all he likes.
>(2) your
> abhorrence of homosexualism may be affected,
this is a well worn piece of homosexual propaganda; by the same token, Dan
Keren’s abhorrence of Holocaust Revisionism is affected. On second thoughts,
perhaps that’s not a very good analogy.
> (3) you may have done time in
> British gaols (spelling as a favour), and (4) you have had some kind of
> relationship–now on the rocks–with David Irving.
Harry and his co-racialist Mr Edeiken can speculate all they like but I have
no intention of commenting on anything remotely concerning legal proceedings
in this group.
> I personally couldn’t give a damn about these things, except for the fact that
> you started it all.
No I didn’t.
>So, I would like to know where the truth lies and why
> Mr. Mazal is not already in court, if he has slandered you?
Because I am not suing Mr Mazal!
> Else one
> possibility (theoretical at least) is that Mr. Mazal is right.
One more time. Allegations have been made against me by many people.
Talk is cheap but proving them in a court of law is a different kettle of fish.
I am not in litigation with Mr Mazal and don’t expect ever to be, but I am
in litigation with people on this side of the Pond and have no intention of
commenting on any aspect of this litigation or anything touching on it, so I
will continue to ignore Mr Mazal’s rants and raves, and in any case he doesn’t
know what he is talking about because he has been briefed by liars.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:22 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: More fake testimony for Dan Keren to explain away.
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Some testimonies must be fake, says Dan, it stands to reason. But I
have never read one that was obviously and blatantly faked. Only that
by Revisionists. Try the following, Dan, and this time exercise a little
critical faculty.
$FOR THOSE I LOVED$, by Martin Gray, Translated from
the French by Anthony White, published by The Bodley Head, Lon-
don, (1973).
page 127: at Treblinka, after being deported by trains, “SS men,
Ukrainians holding lashes, cudgels poised to land on heads and
backs. A loudspeaker, a cool voice repeating, $Men to the right,
women and children to the left$.”
Sure, he saw this, huh?
page 128: “Whips in hand, wearing black, SS men were walking
among the naked, catching some by the arm and making them dress
again.”
straight out of Hollywood
page 130: “I saw prisoners killed with shovels. I saw dogs attack
inmates.”
perhaps they were economising on ammunition
page 143: “One evening Moishe failed to return to the hut. Ivan
shot him near the kitchen because he wasn’t running fast enough.”
Moishe was one of the prisoners employed in disposing of the
bodies; very unsporting of the SS to shoot a stretcher bearer. Get real,
Dan.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:30 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article
[email protected] “David Johnston” writes:
> Al, I didn’t write this. I pointed out that anyone inciting murder is
> commiting a crime. But what the hell – I’m not giving you my address (I try
> not to let strange people know it, and they don’t come much stranger)
why not give me your university address?
>but if
> you tell me which charity and publication, I’ll check it out. Remember, you
> said “charity”, not lunatic fringe organisation. I’ll check that this charity
> is actually registered as such.
You can take my word that it is both a registered company and a registered
charity. I’m hoping to find a sponsor for the second edition of my expose. No
luck so far; if I’ve still had no luck I’ll upload the text next February.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:31 PST 1995
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Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Al Baron’s “documentation” of Ritual Murder?
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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> You mean it isn’t in a generally available publication that I simply can’t
> order?
No, you can order it.
> Apologise for what, Al? Asking you to cite your sources? (You should be
> the one apologizing for being so reticent in providing sources! What
> chutzpuh!) Is asking you to verify your sources, considering the your
> predilection for being disingenous, some kind of denier faux pas or
> something?
No not at all. When I do cite my sources and I’m proved right, people here
change the subject.
> And how about _you_ sending $3 to the JDL for every lie you’ve posted here
> in alt.revisionism? Are you game, Al? Or will that break the bank?
You’re suggesting that I donate money to a terrorist organisation? If I had
a pound for every lie Jews have told me or about me I’d be a wealthy man.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy
From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:32 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] “Charles Don Hall” writes:
> After this ruling was made, a few misguided citizens decided
> that they were above the law, and they tried to prevent
> black children from exercising their rights. The government
> quite rightly stepped in to defend these children. In a few
> cases, the government had to use force, such as the bayonets
> that you mentioned.
> Anyway, do you have a problem with any of this? I’m just amazed
> that it took so long for people to wake up and do the right thing.
It’s always the “racists” who are misguided, hence the same hatred is heaped
on the Louis Farrakhans of this world. The doctrine separate but equal may not
hvae been idealised but in any case your reasoning is faulty. IF schools were
spending less on black kids’ education then more money should have been allotted.
The reality is that “under-achievement” has persisted to this day, and “racism”
has nothing to do with it.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:32 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Some Questions for Mr. Baron
(Was:Re: A Revisionist History Of The 1960s Synagogue Arsons)
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In article <[email protected]>
li[email protected] “william c anderson” writes:
> I note that the GA pamphlet was written by an Englishman. Does this
> entitle me to assert that Englishmen believe that life of a sea bass
> is more important than that of a man?
“Green” Englishmen, yes.
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:33 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: Baron Keeps Evading (Re: Baron Cannot Answer a Simple Question)
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In article
[email protected] “Mark Van Alstine” writes:
> > IF I’ve made a mistake I’ll retract like the honest man I am…
> When pigs fly! You’ve been caught,in the past, in innumerable errors and
> outright lies
Not so, in fact in my latest publication, which hit the streets this week,
I’ve done some further research on a point Dan said I lied about, and
incorporated it into the pamphlet. I’ll post this in February but you’ll
probably hear about it before then. And I’m sure the people at Woburn House
will thank you Dan, because your kindness has made this pamphlet all the more
effective.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:34 PST 1995
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Subject: Re: Baron Keeps Evading (Re: Baron Cannot Answer a Simple Question)
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> Baron, as it should be clear now, is a liar, who should
> never be trusted.
> Hoessler, in his testimony, very explicitly says the woman he
> saved was not inside the gas chamber, and that he had her taken
> out from a transport that was heading towards the gas chambers.
> This is very clearly written, in a short paragraph. There is no
> way Baron could have missed it.
Well I did; furthermore I will be checking out the full papers early next
year.
> Baron lied about the testimony of Dr. Bendel, an Auschwitz survivor,
> for the very same reason.
You’re going to regret that Dan, because every time you correct me (accuse me
of lying) I go back and find something even more embarrassing. You will soon
see.
—
Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:34 PST 1995
Article: 16431 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 95 18:59:25 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Josh Klein” writes:
> Gord McFee ([email protected]) wrote:
> > I have the Protocols in German and English, Al. Wanna play?
> And I have the Russian text (repreinted in a viciously nationalist
> Russian newpaper.)
> Can I play, too?
I thought you were going to send me this to include in my bibliography.
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Alexander Baron

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From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 09:19:35 PST 1995
Article: 16432 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: A Revisionist History of Civil Rights
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In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] “Gord McFee” writes:
> What does Israel have to do with the extermination of the Jews?
According to the Neturei Karta, a hell of a lot. Check out GENOCIDE IN THE
HOLYLAND.
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Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 14:19:05 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Yankee lies about the Iraqi Holocaust
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A while ago some damned liar claimed that “only” about 5,000 Iraqis had been
killed during the Gulf:
The following is from ON IMPACT, May 1991, Greenpeace, Washington, pages 40-1:
“It is estimated that 100,000 – 200,000 Iraqi military personnel, 5,000-10,000
Iraqi civilians, and 2,000-5,000 Kuwaitis died in the course of the air war and
the ground war.”
The Red Cross in London confirmed that; they thought the figure espoused in
this newsgroup was a sick joke.
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Alexander Baron

“He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 23:21:26 PST 1995
Article: 16493 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: More fake testimony for Dan Keren to explain away.
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In article [email protected] “Daniel Keren” writes:
> I’ve missed Baron’s original article, and now saw Mr. Morisson’s
> reply. Mine is the same: I don’t see anything which I think
> is hard to believe, or doesn’t make sense, about this testimony.
Give them enough rope. This testimony is an admitted fake. The Exterminationist
Gitta Sereny lambasted it in her 1979 New Statesman article THE MEN WHO WHITEWAHSH
HITLER. The book was actually ghost written by the French novelist Max Gallo.
Sereny also attacked other Exterminationist fakes, although her main thrust
was that Jews fail to condemn such brazen lies because “tragically they fear
renewed anti-Semitism” and because such writings give aid and comfort to
Revisionism. Like I said Dan: Where is YOUR critical faculty? I had the balls
to denounce the Lachout Document, when will you and your crowd also have the
balls to denounce a lie that furthers your vested interest?
—
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers.” – Charles Peguy

From [email protected] Sun Dec 17 23:21:26 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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From [email protected] Sun Dec 3 00:45:30 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron
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Subject: Re: Baron’s Big Chance (Re: RABIN-STERN GANG/IRGUN OR???)
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